00:00:00.000Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:06.140How bad are things currently going for Alberta NDP leader Nahid Nenshi?
00:00:10.940Well, the rumor swirling about is that he may get replaced before the next provincial election by one of his own MLAs
00:00:18.100because his own leadership brand is that bad in the province at the moment.
00:00:23.200The NDP polling isn't that bad depending on the pollster you look at right now,
00:00:28.200but you have to remember, they are in a peak polling period, and they know it.
00:00:33.760There's a lot of hysteria about the referendums coming up in October, which is boosting the NDP a bit,
00:00:40.480but once we get to October 19th, and the Separatist referendum question does not succeed,
00:00:47.040that pulls away the best card the NDP had to play against Daniel Smith and the UCP.
00:00:53.040Now, the amount of Separatist support in Alberta is nothing to sneeze at.0.78
00:00:57.900If 30% of people vote yes to separate, I know the question is not actually a question about separating, it's a question about having a question about separating, but you still understand the point. It still gets a pull of what people feel. And 30% is substantial, but the NDP can't fear monger about it. They can't drive out voters to vote NDP because it's the federalist pro-canned option.
00:01:21.120That is why they are so tipped off that Danielle Smith has allowed the question to go forward in the fall, because what else are the NDP going to run on? They're going to run on the brand recognition of Nahid Nenshi, the man who destroyed the water infrastructure of Calgary, the man who seems to be on a mission to alienate every single working class voter from the NDP party in favor of left-wing college students.
00:01:47.080what are they going to run on banning coal trying to defund charter schools bringing back drug sites
00:01:52.960like those are actually things they are running on so that is why they really needed the separatist
00:01:59.800referendum to not happen this fall because they wanted to be on the same ballot as it in fall of
00:02:05.5202027 but look at these polling numbers yes some of them only show the NDP down by three percent or
00:02:12.520even 1% in the Angus Reid poll which would actually be super tight in Alberta considering
00:02:17.860the UCP can run up the score in rural areas and it doesn't really matter when it comes to places
00:02:22.960like Calgary and Edmonton but still this is their peak position over the past few months and even
00:02:29.800in pollsters like Leger from just a few weeks ago the UCP are leading the NDP by 9% Leger being a
00:02:38.360pollster that tends to actually have a problem with having too much of a left-wing urban mix in
00:02:43.820its samples, and they show the NDP getting demolished. Maybe they did have an accurate
00:02:49.140sample. A 9% win for the UCP would mean, like, picking up another four or five seats from the
00:02:56.9802023 election. They won the popular vote by 8% in the 2023 election, but it was a bit close just
00:03:02.960because there's so much suburban, urban Danielle Smith hysteria.
00:03:07.260But obviously, that's no longer a factor.1.00
00:03:10.000She's been premier for around four years now.
00:03:31.680it's been wildly successful and the person I want to run against Janet Aramanco is a drug site and1.00
00:03:37.200safe supply advocate that is going to pull like rat poison despite the fact that they did win that
00:03:42.760riding by over 10 points last election that's another way of saying hey if you want to support
00:03:47.920me in Calgary Curry you can always sign up on my website which is pinned at the top of the comments
00:03:52.080wyattclaypool.com and I'm also going to be trying to plug some good UCP nominees in other parts of
00:03:58.560the city of Calgary and the rest of the province. There's one guy up in the Lac-Saint-Anne Parkland
00:04:04.400riding, Ray Donnelly, who's also very good if you want to buy memberships for him. But now I want to
00:04:09.560jump over to what Nenshi's current gambit is, because he is trying to squeeze the blood out of
00:04:16.000the stone because he knows it's not going to last forever. Nahid Nenshi here says, in response to
00:04:22.260the signatures being verified in favor of the Stay Free Alberta petition, the pro-independence
00:04:28.820referendum petition, he's deeply angry about it because apparently it's only democracy when the
00:04:35.980left wins. Nahid Nechi here says, before Danielle Smith repeatedly changed the rules to help the
00:04:41.940separatists, they would have needed roughly 600,000 signatures to force a vote. The separatists didn't0.83
00:04:47.960even come close to that number and nearly 80 000 signatures were tossed by elections alberta
00:04:53.560this is 100 000 this is 100 daniel smith's separation referendum this is the one this is
00:05:00.760she is the one caving to her far right base she is the one who is willing to tear canada apart
00:05:06.840for her political gain can you signal any harder that you are in a leadership crisis right now
00:05:14.840He had to move his riding from where he is right now in Edmonton Strathcona, Rachel Notley's old
00:05:20.880riding, to most likely Calgary Buffalo because his own party resents the fact that he's taking up
00:05:26.360a traditional NDP riding and he wasn't originally wanting to run in Calgary because despite being
00:05:32.380the former Calgary mayor, nobody likes him anymore because he represents higher property taxes and
00:05:39.860our water infrastructure falling apart it was just two days ago that we had another water main
00:05:46.840break because naheed nenshi and then later jody gondek over the collective 16 years they ruled
00:05:53.580the city did not seem to put even a dime into replacing any water pipes in the city so we had
00:05:59.640things like breaking apart because they were like built in the 1920s but naheed nenshi was too busy
00:06:05.640throwing money at dumb progressive initiatives to actually do the basic job of mayor and just
00:06:11.320fixing things you know making sure infrastructure isn't crumbling putting police on the streets to0.94
00:06:16.640make sure that we keep all of the crazy people off the train lines couldn't be bothered to do that
00:06:21.960that's tough he didn't want to try at all because you know he'd rather be opening up like a new
00:06:28.240library that nobody asked for that was like way over budget and barely gets used for anything
00:06:33.020but now let's move on to something else and by the way i love how he says well they didn't even
00:06:38.020come close to the number that they needed yes they didn't come close to the number they needed
00:06:42.600based on the old uh referend or the old recall and referendum threshold which was like 40 percent
00:06:50.100of all registered voters or something crazy like that like 30 percent for referendum questions
00:06:55.560like what are you talking about that's insane for any referendum to get on a ballot that it's not
00:07:01.660that you don't have enough public support if you can't get 600,000 signatures. To get 600,000
00:07:06.840signatures, even if everyone agreed with your petition, or let's say at least 80% of people
00:07:12.480agreed with your petition, it's just logistically extremely difficult to get people to sign
00:07:17.440something. You go to their door and they're not home. People just don't have time and they walk
00:07:21.580past you going to the grocery store. The new threshold of 177,000 is difficult if it's something
00:07:28.580that people don't really want to have a vote on. If it's something that a significant portion of
00:07:33.700the population wants to have a vote on, you can get it done. And by the way, there was already
00:07:38.840a separatist referendum. It was just done by the Federalist side. The, uh, the, I think it's, uh,
00:07:45.240what, the Forever Canada people got like 300,000 signatures. And then they said,
00:07:50.060pretended, no, no, no, we didn't actually want a referendum. You did. You collected the petition
00:07:54.340signatures to try and block the state stay free alberta people and what smith did that was smart
00:07:59.400is after a court tried to shut down the stay free petition because apparently it was violating
00:08:04.740indigenous rights in some vague way uh the recent court then overturned that decision that's why
00:08:10.460they eventually did verify the signatures but she took the two referendums which were a collective
00:08:15.040like 400 000 signatures a large portion of the canadian uh the alberta voting population she
00:08:21.860then said okay let's have a referendum on this in october let's see where people actually stand
00:08:27.460now i am not pro-independence but again i fully understand the arguments for it there's some very
00:08:33.120good arguments i'm skeptical on some of the other arguments i'm still a federalist i guess so you
00:08:38.600know throw your tomatoes at me if you don't like that sort of thing 30 support for something like
00:08:43.220that would be significant it would show a lot of frustrated people but like i said before naheed
00:08:48.400Nancy and the NDP, or whoever the NDP leader was, if it became Rocky Pacioli or Sarah Hoffman,
00:08:54.600you can't say, oh my goodness, Daniel Smith put our province at risk by having a referendum.
00:08:59.880Really? Which got defeated 70 to 30? Which, it wouldn't even be called a wipeout in American
00:09:06.660politics between, like, a Democrat and Republican candidate. That would be, like, a dictatorship
00:09:11.660number in Saddam Hussein's Iraq. That is not even close to it actually going through. Smith,
00:09:18.400is being very smart she is not pro-independence although for some reason then she keeps thinking
00:09:23.760that if he accuses her of it it will eventually stick she's doing this to get it out of the way
00:09:28.400because she doesn't want the ndp falsely running under the banner that if you like canada you have0.91
00:09:32.880to vote ndp because those dirty ucp guys have you know about 40 of their base who likes separation
00:09:41.120or likes independence okay yeah people have opinions on stuff but apparently they want to
00:09:46.000to run on the idea that if you let the ucp get in they're going to secretly take us out of the0.99
00:09:49.840country ridiculous stupid it's just a smear campaign because they got nothing to run on0.98
00:09:55.840but now i want to take you guys through some of these other uh videos that they've been posting0.99
00:10:00.480recently this is what they have left to run on they're going to run against data centers guys
00:10:06.080data centers have existed for decades it's why your phone works it's why the internet works now
00:10:11.680you'll get these people usually funded by the ccp or some other outside progressive far left group
00:10:18.020saying that oh my goodness it's gonna poison your water and it's gonna eat up all the farmland
00:10:21.820no it's not no it's not it's not even going to raise the cost of your electricity bill because
00:10:28.320every single new center that's created and usually they don't want them getting too big because i
00:10:33.360understand the arguments that you don't want a massive center that goes on for like a mile long
00:10:38.120in your like right next to your town but whenever they build them they always require them to
00:10:42.660expand the grid and help increase the power infrastructure so that sometimes when these
00:10:47.780things get built power costs go down in the area but this is the new NDP thing because they're
00:10:52.780basically just sticking their finger in the wind on social media to figure out what they should
00:10:56.820be running on uh check out this video AI data center data center data center data centers
00:11:03.700data centers. Danielle Smith has made her position clear. AI data centers are coming to Alberta
00:11:09.300whether you like it or not. That's their decree. They're taking their cues from foreign billionaires.
00:11:14.860They're ignoring public consultation. The UCP government and Danielle Smith aren't doing their
00:11:19.680job. They're not listening to Albertans. And people in every corner of this province are correct
00:11:24.700to be concerned. When you think about the investment that is required and the impact
00:11:29.200these have isn't worth it well the ucp has created a concierge service for billionaires like mark
00:11:34.800zuckerberg albertian democrats want to do what's right for you this august what's right for you is
00:11:40.860apparently killing off a tens of billions of dollar investment in alberta that's apparently
00:11:47.320what is good for you as an albertan is the mdp basically pushing the chinese communist party line
00:11:56.260that it's going to make your water brown and it's going to give you cancer like this is what0.99
00:12:00.420the 5g people this is like the equivalent of the 5g is going to give you covid thing on the left0.99
00:12:07.020is saying that like ai data centers are going to like somehow like harm you in some way no you1.00
00:12:12.940shouldn't build them right next to cities yes people have had problems where they stick stuck
00:12:17.100it right next to like a residential area and there is a kind of a loud hum that comes off a building
00:12:21.760like that but that's like saying no industrial thing should be stuck next to any city you need
00:12:26.380it close enough to a city that people who work there to get can get to it but if you built it
00:12:30.200kind of off a little bit in the middle of nowhere but it's close enough for people to get to i'm
00:12:34.160perfectly fine with it i'm not saying yes 100 of the time but depends on what the plan is i can go
00:12:40.000for it again the only reason the internet works is because there are already a type of data center
00:12:45.360that exists in order to process information. But the NDP has become like the economic flat earther
00:12:52.240neo-Luddite party who hates AI data centers because, you know, I think we should have policies
00:12:57.780in place to figure out what happens if people lose jobs because of it. Although, like many people
00:13:03.240have said, the problem with then claiming like, oh my goodness, well, we can't do something because
00:13:07.300someone might lose a job. It's like oftentimes some new leap forward in technology then enables
00:13:13.020you to do a completely other job that usually wasn't being invested in as much because the
00:13:17.580economy didn't have the money to pay for people to do those things. But now that you've been able
00:13:22.140to replace more tedious busy work, now people can go and do those other things that AI definitely
00:13:27.140cannot do. But now I want to jump in to another post here by him claiming that the referendum is
00:13:35.620bad because it's going to cost money now remember that this is a referendum on literal this is a
00:13:43.200referendum that includes like 10 different questions and he's going to fear monger about
00:13:48.900less than a million dollars journalists as well as alberta's new democrats have uncovered at least
00:13:56.040six hundred and sixty five thousand dollars in additional spending by the premier and her
00:14:00.720government on this referendum campaign. $300,000 for a one-sided biased website that tells people
00:14:08.540how the premier wants them to vote. $160,000 for television advertising. $205,000 on promotional
00:14:15.980videos. $1.5 million at least on an economic analysis to tell us that separation is bad for
00:14:23.220the economy. Together, that's anywhere between $132 to $182 million. This referendum will not
00:14:30.240reduce your grocery bills it won't help you find a family doctor it won't build a school
00:14:34.860i don't even know how he came to these numbers because i've heard that the actual referendum
00:14:40.640per question and all the logistics that go into it it's like base cost if you were just going to
00:14:45.920have one question it's like 10 million dollars for the province which makes sense you need
00:14:48.980polling stations every year you got to pay people to collect ballots and stuff like that and count
00:14:53.660and stuff uh and as you add questions it should be getting cheaper it's not 130 million dollars
00:15:00.080But I like how he started this criticism off of like, oh, the government has made its position on these referendum questions and what they're advocating for, giving people information.
00:15:12.640It's like, oh, my, that's a rounding error for like an initiative that's about a year-long push towards some referendum questions to get public buy-in on certain issues or public opinion to either get a mandate or not be given a mandate on a specific issue.0.98
00:15:28.420that is chump change won't create a single job today we're calling on danielle smith come clean
00:15:35.320release the full accounting of all referendum related spending including all your advertising
00:15:40.980communication and consultant costs oh my goodness he's so tired he he's so tired i don't even like
00:15:49.280i need to now play you an excerpt from the like from the larger press conference um they also have
00:15:55.500this weird habit of doing these press conference videos where they like go live but like the thing
00:16:01.720doesn't go live right away these these things i always whenever i see nenshi is doing some sort
00:16:06.740of live video he always starts at like 20 minutes in or something like that so he only starts here
00:16:12.580like six or seven minutes yeah six minutes in like why just start up the live stream right when
00:16:19.880you go into it or no one's actually going to re-watch this thing but i want to jump to 10
00:16:23.540minutes in because he starts taking journalist questions and he's asked if this is even that
00:16:28.340much money really and he kind of has to admit that it's not to the outcome of this vote business
00:16:34.480leaders are already warning us that the uncertainty created by this referendum is harming investor
00:16:39.700confidence and economic growth in alberta so the question is simple how much is this actually
00:16:47.160costing us how much money will the ucp spend on advertising and communications i like how the
00:16:53.980little chart there on the right when it says like it says daniel smith's referendum costs you and
00:16:59.500then the total just says so much money it's like it's such a millennial uh some ironic millennial
00:17:05.480thing to put on the board and anyone who's a millennial out there knows what i'm talking about
00:17:10.480when it comes to very liberal left millennials and it's like what's the cost the cost is so much
00:17:16.020money it's so much and counting like just say what the number is they can't say what the number is
00:17:21.140because all these numbers are speculative trash outside of like what tv ads and promotional videos
00:17:26.080are costing which is again nothing they just slapped like 130 million dollars on the top0.82
00:17:30.980you know it's just nonsense they just threw a big number on the top of it to make it seem like
00:17:36.340there was any actual reason for this press conference i've heard the whole thing might
00:17:40.400cost like $30 million, $40 million, which for having a province-wide referendum on multiple
00:17:46.540questions is absolute nothing. It's nothing. And you get an actual real result on what people
00:17:54.280think on all these issues. It's not just a public poll of like 2,000 people. You are going to get
00:17:58.480millions of people to weigh in on it and give the government a mandate to do certain things
00:18:03.340or not have a mandate to do certain things. The NDP was actually pushing Cor Blunt's ridiculous
00:18:09.200referendum on banning coal because that's how far gone the NDP is. Hey, you know those working
00:18:14.700class people who used to vote for us? Well, screw them. We're going to execute all of them in a1.00
00:18:19.400ditch by banning the thing that they mine. Okay, you realize that coal is needed in a lot of0.99
00:18:26.940different products and we export a lot of coal to create things like solar panels and steel and
00:18:32.600whatnot. But no, guys, we got to save the Rockies because I work downtown in an office building and
00:18:38.420don't know how the economy works i'm in i work at an hr job working for the public service and i
00:18:43.920think we should ban coal all the people who had jobs in the rockies mining coal well they should
00:18:49.060go kill themselves because i like hiking and i don't like the idea that the place that i like0.84
00:18:54.180hiking at several dozens of miles away there might be a coal mine goodness people but now i want to0.97
00:19:02.680get into when the question starts up here how many former ucp staffers who are now lobbyists
00:19:08.400and consultants are profiting from this referendum how much will be spent on promoting the premier's
00:19:16.160political agenda between now and october albertans deserve answers because when daniel smith is
00:19:23.580spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a referendum family it might not even crack a hundred
00:19:29.320what is he talking and then he says hundreds of millions as if the number not only is above a
00:19:35.340million but could possibly like be like 700 million like sir get a grip that's not how
00:19:43.760you can't just lot you can't just fudge the numbers this much like we are multiple layers
00:19:49.360into fudging the numbers we have just assumed this is going to be going into over a hundred
00:19:53.900million dollars when it could only be half of that and then we're also then assuming because
00:19:58.160we have now hit theoretically in my own messed up math over a hundred million well now it's
00:20:03.460I'm going to keep referring to it as hundreds of millions, even though I've never even justified the first hundred million dollars in costs.
00:20:11.280You're worried about the cost of living.
00:20:25.600Wait times are down despite the amount of spending not going up exponentially like what would happen with the NDP.
00:20:31.560When the NDP was in government for four years, they're big public service, you know, programs people, so they dump money into public services and programs.
00:20:39.660But the problem is wait times went up massively when they were in government, despite the spending, because spending doesn't actually equal quality.
00:20:47.900In emergency rooms, meaning the fall respiratory virus season is going to be something like we've never seen before.
00:20:54.760People continue to struggle to find a family doctor.
00:20:58.100Communities need schools, roads, and other infrastructure.0.99
00:21:01.560Danielle Smith could use this money for so many things.1.00
00:21:05.560Yeah, like fixing water main breaks, buddy.1.00
00:21:08.560She could have reversed her cruel cuts to a shared income for the severely handicapped,1.00
00:21:15.560or her cuts to women's shelters, or her rollback of senior supports.
00:21:20.560Every single dollar spent on this referendum is a dollar that isn't being spent
00:21:25.560addressing the issues that Albertans care about every single day.
00:21:28.560And by the way, the thing with women's shelters, too, is that he realizes that in Canada, when the federal liberals, when the Kearney liberals are celebrating that crime rates are going down, really what they mean to say is that crime's unchanged in many provinces.
00:21:44.060It is a negligible change that could be back up next year because it only went down by like 0.5 or 1% or like 1.5% in somewhere like Ontario or Quebec or British Columbia.
00:21:56.860but in a province like Alberta we will sometimes have eight and a half percent drops in violent
00:22:02.460crime as well as retail theft. Alberta is the reason that jobs are being created that the GDP
00:22:08.760is even growing and that crime is going down and he's going to then complain that you know women's
00:22:13.840shelters aren't getting enough money it's like well okay I'm not obviously against funding women's
00:22:19.000shelters but you actually in theory don't need to fund them as much every year if you're also
00:22:25.180flattening the amount of actual crime. You know, because in a world, in theory, to walk this one
00:22:31.840out, if we had no crime, you wouldn't need women's shelters. Because in theory, there is no domestic1.00
00:22:37.380violence. There is no people needing, you know, safety in the middle of the night downtown with
00:22:42.440creeps everywhere. So in theory, that's true. And if you had crazy amounts of crime, you'd need more
00:22:47.880women's shelters. But if you're flattening the amount of crime, it's actually less needed. And1.00
00:22:52.400in fact, that is kind of a great summation of the NDP approach on crime. What you do is that let's
00:22:58.640not actually crack down on the amount of crazy drug addicts on the streets. Let's not put more
00:23:04.920police on the streets and arrest repeat offenders and have street patrols in neighborhoods to try
00:23:10.460and crack down on crime. That's mean because police are bad and racist. Instead, let's let
00:23:16.920crime run rampant and let's just fund women's shelters more to help process the women who are0.93
00:23:23.240then victims of the increased rate of crime that is the that is an ndp policy let us fight the
00:23:29.700symptoms fight the symptoms not the actual problem because fighting symptoms allows us to spend more
00:23:35.120money and what's the benefit nothing there's no benefit to albert who's going through this exercise
00:23:42.280the premier thinks there's a political benefit to herself but there's no benefit to everyday
00:23:46.600people. There's definitely a political benefit to herself because she's ripping away the biggest1.00
00:23:51.740club that she has against her. And by the way, she was already going to do all the other referendum1.00
00:23:56.020questions anyways. A bunch of them are stuff saying, hey, can we pursue this or that new
00:24:01.340sovereignty policy? Would you like to see a change on this front? Would you like to see more options
00:24:06.680with health care or education? I don't know what all the questions are. I should actually go and
00:24:10.200review them again. But most of them are just policy opinion questions where if they get a good
00:24:15.740number of people coming back saying like 55, 57, 62 percent of people agree with Daniel Smith's
00:24:22.200position on an issue. She then has a mandate to kind of go and start making changes in that area
00:24:26.880of policy. It's very smart politics. The NDP would never do this if they got into government1.00
00:24:32.120because their policies pull like rat poison. Do you like safe supply? Do you like injection sites
00:24:42.320and addictions housing in residential areas, that is an NDP policy. That is why they would0.97
00:24:48.500never poll you on that, because they would get defeated like probably 85 to 15. That is actually
00:24:54.740why the riding I'm running for, again, plug in the top of the comments, WyattClaypool.com,
00:24:59.480I'm running for the UCP nomination there. That is why it's actually become a more winnable riding.
00:25:04.860The NDP won it by 13% last election. Previous election, the UCP only won it by two,
00:25:10.900but remember that's when the drug problems were kind of active in the area and there was kind of
00:25:16.260an up in the air uh kind of campaign on who has the better addictions policy the ucp won that1.00
00:25:23.300argument and yet janet aramanco because she's an insane leftist activist and literally was a drug1.00
00:25:29.200advocate before she became an mla uh doesn't care and she wants the schumer center injection site1.00
00:25:34.300reopened which is on the border of her own riding on the east who cares about the people who live1.00
00:25:39.700over there because she has an ideology to stay committed to this referendum will not reduce your
00:25:45.640grocery bills it won't reduce your utility bills it won't help you find a family doctor it won't
00:25:51.660build a school except that the ucp is actually building like dozens of schools he's he's such a
00:25:58.720he's such a hack he's he's saying all these things as if it implies that daniel smith is not doing
00:26:05.160those things and this her referendum is is what she's giving you instead of building schools and
00:26:09.180hospitals and hiring more nurses and doctors and teachers. Except she is doing those things.0.89
00:26:13.760She is. And in fact, I am no, like, sycophant of any conservative leader. And so I'd even say,
00:26:20.640like, I would have probably not given as generous an offer towards the teachers when she was
00:26:25.240negotiating with them. But she gave them a very generous offer. That's why it makes it so crazy
00:26:29.260the NDP is trying to attack her on this. She gave them a fairly large increase in pay over three or1.00
00:26:35.300four years. And then she's also hiring thousands of more teachers and teacher assistants, building0.96
00:26:40.260dozens of more schools, building more hospitals, hiring more nurses. Again, maybe I would even0.99
00:26:45.580think that there's efficiency mechanisms we could have used to increase service quality without
00:26:50.020actually even having to spend as much on new staff. You know, there's so many people who work
00:26:54.400in HR in all sorts of areas of government who actually are qualified to do the front lines of
00:26:59.020work where people are being overwhelmed. So many nurses are actually not working in nursing. They're
00:27:04.680in administration, HR, other sorts of management areas. You can easily put them back on the front
00:27:09.500lines and massively reduce wait times rather than having people on the third floor of the hospital
00:27:13.660filling up paperwork speculating as to why wait times are up when that person is literally a
00:27:19.120nurse who could help reduce wait times. You know, that's another solution there. But overall,
00:27:23.680from the NDP's ideological perspective, how is what Daniel Smith is doing wrong in any way,
00:27:29.540shape or form at all in fact the only critique i could find is is a more kind of like right-wing
00:27:35.540libertarian critique although even then she's actually moving towards more private delivery
00:27:39.860of of medical services which i'm happy with so like unless he wants to criticize that uh there's
00:27:45.620nothing he can really criticize here and that's not exactly a great idea because i've heard from
00:27:50.660so many people that there's a lot of people these days in alberto willing to try privatized delivery
00:27:56.660of health care because of just how bad the public system is all across canada won't create a single
00:28:02.280job unless you're a former conservative staffer turned lobbyist based in toronto
00:28:06.760it's an expensive political game for this premier and all over is you paying the cost
00:28:13.240so today we're calling on danielle smith number one come clean come release the full accounting
00:28:19.960of all referendum related spending including all your advertising communication and consultant
00:28:25.340costs tell over what the total bill will be before we vote oh and while you're at it tell us how many
00:28:31.980of you ucp mlas are actually separatists we deserve to know that too i'll take questions
00:28:37.260all right so for those who cares like i i must i'm sure it's it's conservative politics in alberta
00:28:44.200you know probably about 30 to 40 percent of the ucp base is pro-independence at least as like a
00:28:50.720ideological kind of idealism, even if they don't actually think it's feasible anytime soon. I'm not
00:28:58.040pro-independence, but again, I understand their points. Even if there's like a, let's say there's
00:29:02.940five or six UCP MLAs who are pro-independence, what would it matter? The referendum would show
00:29:08.860them, hey, we're not near, we're not close to being the majority and it would be wrong for us
00:29:13.820to push those views forward. That's pretty much it. Like that's the worst that would happen is
00:29:19.920they would say they would maybe endorse the referendum it would be like one or two percent
00:29:23.740better than it would have done it gets 31 of the vote and business as usual like again he he keeps
00:29:31.700acting like if he asserts that there's some secret separatist menace inside the alberta government
00:29:36.500that ergo disaster occurs and he's never actually been able to back that up and he actually gets
00:29:41.800he actually gets like bulldozed not even it's not like this reporter's that mean to him in any way
00:30:08.520So if you could answer in both English and French, that could be nice.
00:30:12.160So what's the ideal price point for like this referendum that still got nine other questions and how to make it more cost efficient, let's say?
00:30:25.580Now, I love that question because it's an objective numbers question.
00:30:30.600How much, if the government was running referendums to get public opinion on what it does moving forward on policy,
00:30:36.100which actually can help costs in the future, that Albertans have a much stronger guarantee of getting what they want
00:30:42.460because the government did a direct poll of every single person willing to show up and vote on what they want them to do,
00:30:49.060But let's say, okay, we do still want to have this cost within a certain range
00:30:54.980Because, you know, we don't want runaway costs on a referendum that doesn't technically create any actual value itself. Fair enough. And so what is he going to say? Like 30 million, 20 million? Because then he runs into the feasibility argument.
00:31:08.920Can you put on a referendum across a large Canadian province of nearly 5 million people and run it underneath $30 million or so?
00:31:19.540Or is there always going to be a specific cost that will be, like, associated with something this big going on?
00:31:26.140And, of course, actually, this makes sense.
00:31:27.700This is coming from a Radio Canada guy.
00:31:29.740Because if it's a Quebec reporter, they really don't like the implication that simply having an independence vote is, like, inherently evil.
00:31:37.660because obviously Quebec also does that all the time.
00:31:40.400And so I think they actually are really,
00:31:42.420even though you would think more left-leaning Quebec voters
00:31:46.980and reporters would be more prudent-y,
00:31:49.160like, no, they actually don't like the kind of