The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - OneBC rises in BC polls! CPBC leadership race chaos after Aaron Gunn drops out!

00:00:00.040 Ahoy everyone, Wyatt Claypool here, back again to break down some Canadian polling numbers.

00:00:05.900 Today we will be exclusively discussing the province of British Columbia, but I can assure

00:00:11.380 you even if you're not from BC, you will still find all of this interesting. We will be going

00:00:16.560 over BC provincial polling numbers, polling numbers for the BC conservative leadership race.

00:00:22.220 We will discuss Aaron Gunn just today coming out and saying that he will not be running for the BC

00:00:27.240 conservative leadership, which is going to throw the entire race on its head, and of course I will

00:00:32.520 talk a little bit about the 1 BC party as we go along, but naturally I'm not going to go into all

00:00:38.260 the details over internal drama. Every party has it. Effectively, it was a dumb staffing issue where

00:00:45.080 Dallas Brody was trying to make decisions and people were trying to overrule her even though she's the 1.00

00:00:49.040 leader, and it turned into this extremely unnecessary fight where it seemed like people didn't really

00:00:54.500 respect that she was the leader and eventually a bigger staffing change had to be made. 0.94

00:00:59.640 Dallas is still the leader, we are moving forward, and we are in fact doing very well in the polls as

00:01:05.000 we are about to see here. But before we break down the numbers, I want to do a quick self-plug and

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00:02:01.140 talk about numbers or talk about things happening in politics federally and whatnot. But anyways,

00:02:06.220 without further ado, let's get in to some BC provincial polls. Now, recently we had two polls come out,

00:02:13.480 one from Main Street Research and one from Palace. The numbers are pretty similar, so I'm just going to be

00:02:19.540 talking about Main Street Research when it comes to the overall provincial numbers. Right now,

00:02:25.740 things are quite tight at the top side of polling. The NDP, the BC NDP, is currently at, according to

00:02:33.960 Main Street Research, 41% in the polls. Probably drew that a little bit high, but you can forgive me.

00:02:41.980 The BC Conservatives are tied with them, sitting also at 41%. I think it's a little bit lower just

00:02:50.060 because it's rounding up, but you understand margin of error. These parties, even if they were like one

00:02:54.600 or two points away, they're effectively tied. And again, it really depends on the distribution of

00:02:59.380 support across the province. But BC NDP and BC Conservatives are both tied at 41% of the polls.

00:03:07.560 And in third place, naturally, we have the Greens, who have also been around for a long time,

00:03:12.760 sitting at 10% in the polls, which is an improvement for them over the last election. I think in the

00:03:19.380 last election, they only had like eight or 9% in the polls or whatever, like provincially. They

00:03:24.520 didn't even run candidates everywhere. I think an entire third of ridings did not have a BC Green

00:03:29.660 leader, sort of candidate. The current BC Green leader, Emily Lowens, far more aggressive than

00:03:35.360 Sonia Firstenau was ever willing to be. You kind of understood, like, I'm not left-wing. I'm

00:03:41.880 obviously right-wing. But if you're going to be the Green party, you better be left-wing. It's like

00:03:47.960 a conservative party. You better be conservative. That's why the BC Conservatives aren't doing so

00:03:51.920 well, because they keep flip-flopping on if they really want to be conservative or not.

00:03:55.900 The Greens are benefited by a more left-wing leader, which is what Emily Lowen is.

00:04:00.340 Sonia Firstenau's husband's, like, in finance. There's only so left-wing she's really going to 0.97

00:04:05.600 get. She's not going to become an anti-capitalist leftist like Emily Lowen is. But in British

00:04:10.840 Columbia, in certain areas, what Emily Lowen is selling, people will buy. Not a lot of them,

00:04:16.700 but more than what were, you know, people purchasing. Sonia Firstenau's slight step to the

00:04:21.900 left of the NDP that really didn't connect with anybody. But, and this is true between both

00:04:28.060 polls. 1BC in this Main Street poll is at 7%, which is not too shabby at all, considering this

00:04:36.740 poll was conducted in the midst of all the 1BC drama. I did not talk about it on the channel,

00:04:43.420 and we actually played it fairly close to the vest, even though we had to be aggressive to get

00:04:47.600 access to the party back. But in spite of all of the drama and whatnot, this poll that was conducted

00:04:54.400 on December, I believe, 17th to the 18th, which was right in the middle of it all. We didn't even

00:05:00.580 have access to the party back by this point. We still hit 7%. Same as Palace Data, which was done

00:05:07.180 a little bit earlier in December. And then also, there was an Angus Reid poll that, for some reason,

00:05:14.220 didn't name 1BC. It was very strange that they did that. But they just threw us in the other category.

00:05:19.400 But even in that poll, the other had like 8%, and Angus Reid admitted like the vast majority of that

00:05:25.200 is 1BC. In that Angus Reid poll, 11% of federal conservatives were voting 1BC and 13% of people

00:05:32.000 who did not vote in the last election. Remember too, when 1BC is at 7%, that is in spite of the fact

00:05:39.360 that probably only about one third of British Columbians are aware enough that 1BC exists and

00:05:45.840 what we believe in, in order to even be able to credibly select us in a poll. That's actually the

00:05:51.220 problem we had in reverse when they started including like Centre BC in polls. The problem

00:05:56.320 with including Centre BC is a top-line pick. They don't have any MLAs. They're being led by a one-term

00:06:01.660 failed MLA, Karen Kirkpatrick. But because Centre isn't the name, you'll get a lot of kind of wishy-washy

00:06:07.320 liberals picking the centrist party, even though they have no credible reason to exist. And we were not

00:06:12.900 included in a lot of the polls earlier on, but Centre was. It was ridiculous. But 1BC, the name 0.94

00:06:18.160 doesn't kind of, isn't evocative of anything to people if they don't actually know what we do.

00:06:24.560 So it's going to take a lot longer in order to pump up that name recognition for people to be

00:06:29.420 educated enough to even select us. And even with only around a third, maybe 40% of people knowing

00:06:35.180 who we are at all, even with no details. Because like most people, you knock on their door and ask

00:06:41.080 them who 1BC is, they just say, I don't know. But even with only maybe a third of people having

00:06:45.880 enough awareness to be even capable of selecting 1BC in a poll, we are at 7%. So we are doing quite

00:06:52.400 well. But now I want to show you the increases and decreases in this poll, because I'm going to

00:06:57.620 debunk the stupid notion that 1BC is hurting the Conservatives, that we are basically only splitting 0.87

00:07:03.980 their vote and keeping the NDP in. So since the Blast Main Street Research poll, which 1BC was not 0.97

00:07:10.300 involved in, 1BC has naturally gone up the full 7% because we weren't in the last poll. The BC Greens

00:07:17.640 have gone up by 2%. The Conservatives have gone down by 3% since the last Main Street poll, and the NDP

00:07:27.580 has gone down by 4% since the last Main Street poll. Now, in a race like this, if the Conservatives and

00:07:35.780 NDP are tied, the Conservatives would probably get a minority government, and then 1BC would probably

00:07:41.200 end up having like one or two seats, and maybe they would hold up their minority government in

00:07:45.800 the legislature. The thing is here, if you do the math, the increase here is 9% and the decrease on

00:07:52.180 that side is 7%. Naturally, that's because 1BC savaged the other category. So people who were just

00:07:58.720 selecting other in previous polls are all pretty much voting 1BC. I think there was only 1% of people

00:08:03.660 who still, with 1BC on the ballot, select another party. And again, some of those people may not

00:08:09.100 even understand what 1BC is, and if they did, they'd select us. But the Conservatives lost three

00:08:14.320 points, and the NDP lost four. Now, you'll notice that we went up by seven, so it couldn't possibly

00:08:20.980 be true that we're just hurting the Conservatives. Even if you were to assume that the Greens stole the

00:08:27.200 2% exclusively from the NDP, which isn't a bad assumption, although NDP voters or Green voters

00:08:32.860 actually kind of come from all sides of the spectrum, it's strange. They're very left-wing, but they

00:08:37.600 also get a lot of just anti-establishment people voting for them. There's a reason why the PPC

00:08:43.160 actually ended up stealing a lot of votes from the Greens, because it's the party of rejecting

00:08:48.000 establishment narratives. It doesn't really, those voters don't really care if it's the left-wing or

00:08:51.820 right-wing, they just want the anti-establishment party. But the Greens go up too, so even if we

00:08:57.500 assumed that that exclusively came from the NDP, that means that we ended up taking 2% from the

00:09:04.520 NDP, we ended up taking 3% from the Conservatives if we were to assume that we exclusively took from

00:09:10.480 them, like all their fall was exclusively going to us. So 2% from the NDP, 3% from the Conservatives,

00:09:18.700 and then we ended up getting another 2% probably from the other category. So no, we're not splitting

00:09:25.960 the Conservatives' vote. We picked up 2% of the votes that they were not getting because they

00:09:30.200 weren't doing a good enough job to get them. We took 2% from the NDP, probably the old blue-collar 0.51

00:09:36.620 trade union voters who just cannot stand how left-wing and progressive the NDP has gotten,

00:09:41.920 and then we took 3% from the Conservatives. Disproportionate maybe, but most of our vote is

00:09:47.600 coming not from the Conservatives, it's coming from other, and it's coming from NDP. By the way,

00:09:52.900 I've said this federally, if you're doing a good job as the main Conservative Party, and they're barely

00:09:58.080 Conservative at all, you will eat the lunch of any small fringe party that comes around.

00:10:03.800 We're not a fringe party because we actually represent a lot of what people want in politics.

00:10:08.780 If the Conservatives were offering what we're offering, we wouldn't have a reason to exist,

00:10:12.940 and we would go off into obscurity. The PPC in 2025, because Paliyev was generally doing his job well,

00:10:19.180 only got 0.7% of the vote, because unlike with O'Toole, Paliyev knew what he was doing,

00:10:25.400 and the PPC did not have nearly as big of a reason to stick around. And I just want to point out,

00:10:30.940 this is a big poll. 1,900 people were polled. We're not fluking out getting 7% because only 400,

00:10:37.440 300 people were polled, and a few extra 1BC people than normal answered the phones. This is a big poll,

00:10:44.080 a large sample, and that's in part because they also ended up polling the BC Conservative leadership.

00:10:50.220 And you need a bigger sample because you want more Conservative respondents to ask,

00:10:54.380 hey, are you a member? Hey, are you planning on voting in the leadership? You know, who do you like?

00:10:59.080 And this is where we get to the Conservative leadership campaign and Aaron Gunn, because

00:11:03.780 it's getting messy because Aaron Gunn's not getting into the race. Even if Aaron Gunn got into it,

00:11:09.400 I actually don't think he would have won as easily as people think. It would be less of a

00:11:14.820 pure Paliyev running in 22 for the federal leadership race and smashing it and getting

00:11:19.100 like 78% of the vote. I don't think that that's how it would go down for Aaron Gunn. There's just

00:11:23.980 too many factions in the Conservative Party. There are people who like Aaron, and there's people who

00:11:27.740 also deeply dislike Aaron within the party. I'm not trying to slag anyone, that's just how it is.

00:11:33.120 Even though I work for the 1BC party, I will try and remain objective in how I talk about this.

00:11:37.660 But I'm going to clear the board, and I'm at least going to show a general overview of where the

00:11:43.480 different candidates are at, and then we will talk about what's going to happen if Aaron Gunn is not

00:11:48.440 in the race. Now, I apologize ahead of time, because this is going to be a bit of a mess to look at,

00:11:56.880 and you will see how much more of a mess it will be when we discuss how Aaron Gunn is not running.

00:12:01.980 So you guys, we'll go over the Main Street research and the Palace data on this race.

00:12:07.700 Maybe I'll just quickly do this. So Main Street is going to be here, the first one, and then we'll

00:12:13.180 have Palace as the second number I write for each person. Can I even keep this? You know what,

00:12:20.200 guys? We're even going to do this. I'm going to erase my pretty title there. Jokes. I have terrible

00:12:26.520 writing. But we're going to have Main Street research as our first number that you're going to see next

00:12:30.640 to each person. And then the second one is going to be Palace. It's not going to line up exactly,

00:12:34.860 but you just know that left to right is Main Street, then Palace. And you're going to see just

00:12:39.620 one, how irrelevant a lot of these candidates are, and it's not to insult them. It's just that it's

00:12:45.320 just too big of a, it's just too many people running in too small of a party. And you could say,

00:12:50.960 well, they're 41%. They're not a small party. The membership of the Conservatives, especially after

00:12:55.380 1BC started existing, died. In the leadership review of John Rustad, maybe 1,700, 1,900 people

00:13:04.600 voted. Emily Lohan, becoming the Green Party leader, got like 5,000 votes. And a fraction of

00:13:11.040 the people even bothered showing up and voting yes or no on John Rustad's leadership of the party.

00:13:17.160 The numbers of people who have just gotten rid of their memberships or just didn't renew them

00:13:22.700 is incredible. They maybe have like low thousands of members, like 4,000, 5,000 members at this point.

00:13:28.840 It's pathetic. Maybe it's a little higher. I don't know, but you get the point. It's cutting off a 0.92

00:13:33.280 little bit at the end there because I'm trying to fit it all in. And maybe I'll even add a couple

00:13:36.500 other people. I think our dark horse candidates a bit later, but let's start off with Aaron Gunn.

00:13:43.000 What did each of these people have? I'll write them down in some color so you guys can see. I'll write

00:13:48.280 them down in red or something like that for the Main Street numbers. So Gunn in Main Street Research

00:13:54.820 had, and remember, these polls have massive amounts of undecided. 66% of people in Main Street Research's

00:14:01.780 poll was undecided, and they're asking people who are current members, who have been members at some

00:14:06.460 point, have never been members. I think that's all fine because you're going to have a lot of people

00:14:10.320 becoming members to vote on who they want to become leader, although significantly less because

00:14:15.060 Gunn's not in the race, and it's going to be a less interesting race. I suspect he ends up endorsing

00:14:20.740 his friend Harmon Bangu in the race. But Gunn in Main Street Research was at 18%, followed behind by

00:14:29.260 Peter Milibar at 6%. Christine Elliott, if I can find her on this, was actually only at 1%, even though I

00:14:35.960 consider her a more formidable candidate than many of the others. After that, we had Ian Black was at

00:14:42.720 4%. He's a former BC Cabinet Minister for the BC Liberals, but that was like 2008. Like, this guy's

00:14:49.840 LinkedIn, in terms of politics, is pretty old. I think he ran for the Federal Conservatives in the

00:14:56.900 last election and lost. But when you actually go back to the things that he's going to be talking about

00:15:02.220 as his achievements, it's like ancient history type stuff. We have Chris Gardner at 2%. This is the

00:15:09.980 candidate that John Rustad is currently backing. We have Carrie Lynn Finley, the former Federal Whip,

00:15:16.760 and I believe she was like the Surrey White Rock MP. Her husband is a MLA in the party that is Brent

00:15:25.240 Chapman. Brent Chapman, by the way, is great. I'm a 1BC person, of course. I work in the 1BC Caucus.

00:15:31.680 I will always still say nice things about MLAs that I like. Unfortunately, many of these MLAs

00:15:36.980 are not given nearly as much say in the party as they should, and the BC Conservatives are

00:15:41.540 effectively just run by the BC Liberals at this point. Bangu, in this poll, is at 1% as well,

00:15:49.300 and that is also, I believe, I think Uri Falmer, yeah, he's also just at 1%. I think he's one of

00:15:54.940 those rounding up 1% type people. So yes, you're noticing something here. If you add all of this up,

00:16:03.760 you're at, you know, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, you only get 16% if you add up every single other person

00:16:11.660 compared to, they don't even beat Aaron Gunn combined. It doesn't mean that these people

00:16:16.840 wouldn't gain profile as they're running, and maybe one of them is really interesting,

00:16:20.180 and they start to catch a bit of fire. But the problem is here that there's no like celebrity

00:16:25.980 candidate. Gunn was the celebrity candidate, and he's not running. So let's go over to Palace data

00:16:32.040 right now, and I'll write this one down in, we'll write it down in blue just for your ability to

00:16:37.920 see, even though the Conservative Party, the BC Conservatives these days, do not deserve the color

00:16:42.180 blue. But we will go over all of these. We'll start off with Aaron Gunn here. Aaron Gunn in Palace

00:16:48.980 was doing even better, having 23% of the vote. That is a pretty massive amount. Undecideds in this poll

00:16:58.720 were only 44% because I believe they were more, they were stricter on the definition of if you're

00:17:04.680 like likely to become a member and actually vote or not. We had in this poll going down to the next

00:17:10.420 person trying to find them. We had Peter Milibar in this poll at 8%. Caroline Elliott was at,

00:17:18.940 oh, she was also doing at 8%. See, that's where I think she's more formidable. I think people 0.95

00:17:23.040 who follow politics closer, like Caroline Elliott more, the one thing she has to overcome, and I'm

00:17:29.180 going to put money on it, as in zero imaginary dollars, I'm actually going to put money on it.

00:17:34.400 I don't bet. Caroline Elliott, she can't overcome the label Kevin Falcon's sister-in-law, because she 1.00

00:17:41.440 is in fact Kevin Falcon's sister-in-law. And so if she doesn't come out as like a fire-breathing

00:17:47.160 dragon in this race, I think you're going to see a lot of people who just kind of lose interest.

00:17:50.860 She's kind of a cultural conservative, but on fiscal issues and social issues, I hear she's

00:17:55.540 still kind of a, she's just an old BC liberal in a lot of those ways. I'm not trying to slag her.

00:17:59.700 Everyone has their perspectives. I just don't see her as like the big conservative leader that ties

00:18:05.520 the whole party together. Maybe she can earn it here. And again, I'm saying all of this as a one BC

00:18:09.880 person who frankly does not have confidence in this party. If I'm putting money on it, again, my imaginary

00:18:15.560 dollars, I'm taking off the imaginary money tree. I think Milibar is going to win.

00:18:19.680 But that's not something I'm going to talk about further here. I'm not trying to influence the

00:18:24.020 race. We had Ian Black. Actually, I came in on this poll with a big 0%. Again, smaller sample size

00:18:33.140 that maybe he'll do better as time goes on. Chris Gardner was at, I believe, 1%. Or what is that?

00:18:40.240 Yeah, he's at 1% in this poll. Carrie Lynn Finley was doing much better in this one. She's actually a 0.99

00:18:45.780 second place candidate in this one with 10% of the vote going for her. With a lot of people, 0.74

00:18:51.420 especially in the Surrey and the Vancouver area, who know her. She actually is kind of a big deal

00:18:56.840 in federal politics. She was, again, the whip, the chief whip for Kiripolyev in the party. She's

00:19:03.700 been around for a while. She's helped win tough ridings in the past. I think she is at one point

00:19:08.660 elected. She lost a race and she came back. So she's actually somebody who knows politics quite

00:19:14.600 well, knows everybody in the game. And that's something that she would have an advantage for. 0.75

00:19:19.840 I'm not sure how serious she is about winning, but we'll see how she does as time goes on.

00:19:25.660 Bangu in this one, again, at 1%. And we have Yuri Fulmer in this one, also at, I believe,

00:19:32.220 1%. Yes. Yuri Fulmer, I'll go over and say something about everyone here. I'm actually

00:19:38.740 going to like, I don't even know what, when I say I don't know what to say. Again, I don't want to

00:19:43.540 make it sound like anything is an endorsement or an unendorsement. Again, 1BC, I don't care.

00:19:51.300 I would tell all 1BC people, don't buy a BC Conservative membership to vote for these people. 0.92

00:19:55.760 Remember, this party rigged its own AGM against its own members. Do not give these people money.

00:20:01.240 You can't trust them to actually act properly. But I will talk about these people and give kind

00:20:06.800 of like the best case for them. So first off, let's just scratch out Aaron Gunn from this poll

00:20:13.100 because he is not running anymore. So in this poll, 18% and 23% in that poll of the vote was just

00:20:21.460 wiped out. The top guy is gone. Verifiably gone. He made a video announcing he's not running.

00:20:26.480 Okay. So let's go from the bottom. Uri Fulmer was a BC Conservative candidate for, I believe,

00:20:34.040 North Vancouver Capilano. He lost what I would consider a winnable riding. I'm not sure if that's

00:20:42.100 his fault. The BC Conservative campaign was massively incompetent, I would say. It's not individual's fault

00:20:50.540 exactly. I think it was more of a top down issue with more executive level people who are not acting

00:20:56.020 properly. To the point, I heard because I was the campaign manager for Bruce Banneman in Abbotsford

00:21:02.540 South for most of the race. And in the last 19 days, I ran off and I started doing work for other

00:21:07.420 candidates in tighter races like Lawrence Mock, who's an absolute beauty. We got him across the

00:21:11.820 finish line in Maple Ridge East by like 70, 90 votes, something like that. It was really tight.

00:21:17.420 That was an absolute nail biter of a night watching that race go on. But I was literally told

00:21:24.060 by multiple sources at this point, I was mocked in the BC Conservative HQ because I took such a low

00:21:30.580 salary. I was only making $5,000 a month. And I did not bill anybody my rent for the place I was

00:21:36.980 staying in. I didn't bill gas. I didn't bill food. I didn't bill anything the entire time. Maybe every

00:21:42.640 once in a while, someone had caught me a meal here and there because I was at an event or whatever.

00:21:46.620 And they're like, Oh, don't worry. The party's paying for this. That would be it. And I was

00:21:50.020 mocked because I was being fiscally responsible with donor money and wanting to focus the money

00:21:54.700 on winning the election. That's what that party's like. But enough story time on that.

00:21:59.860 Palmer, good guy, lost what I would consider winnable riding. I don't exactly blame that on him,

00:22:04.940 but he is one of the best fundraisers in the BC Conservative Circle. I'd heard that the guy

00:22:10.000 himself brought in a million dollars to the party. Not him cutting a million dollar check,

00:22:15.520 but him with his network of people was able to bring in just massive amounts of money.

00:22:20.260 That would be the big thing going for him. I know there's some decently influential people who are

00:22:25.500 on his campaign. Harmon Bangu, I think there's a certain type of online conservative who likes Aaron

00:22:31.580 Gunn, whose natural second or third choice was probably Harmon Bangu. And if Aaron Gunn comes out

00:22:36.460 and endorses him, you will probably see Bangu start to jump around 10-12% of the polls just

00:22:42.000 on the endorsement alone. But then he still has to win it for himself. He is still a first-term MLA,

00:22:48.240 like many of them. Younger guy out in, I think it's Abbotsford Langley, Langley-Abbotsford.

00:22:56.320 Wouldn't be a terrible choice from a charisma level, but I don't think that many people still know him.

00:23:02.760 Carrie Lynn Finley, again, you're going to have an old veteran of conservative politics running that 1.00

00:23:09.280 could actually end up giving you a lot of benefits when it comes to federal conservative alliances

00:23:13.600 or alliances with conservative, like, you know, organizers and whatnot in the Surrey and Vancouver

00:23:18.860 areas where the Conservative Party dropped the ball in the last election. That would be the take on her.

00:23:24.500 Chris Gardner is, I really don't know much about him. I just know that John Rustad is backing him

00:23:29.660 up, kind of a, you know, BC Liberals liberal. Maybe a little bit more of a conservative type of a BC

00:23:37.000 liberal, but that's all you can really say about him. Ian Black, kind of a boring former cabinet

00:23:42.720 minister, ran for the federal conservatives, I heard, in the last election. Lost. I'm not sure if he had a

00:23:47.680 good riding or not, but that's kind of what you would say about Ian Black. He has a decent-sized team.

00:23:52.720 Caroline Elliott, she is being backed by the Without Diminishment people, which, without

00:23:58.500 Diminishment, and I'm not trying to be rude, but they're effectively a Caroline Elliott front group.

00:24:02.780 It's this, you know, blog-type news outlet, but it's kind of, like, for, like, very pro-monarchist-type

00:24:09.980 Zoomer politicos or whatever. And I don't exactly disagree with him. By the way, I'm not pro or

00:24:16.000 anti-monarchy. I just don't care. But she's trying to, like, use, like, social media influencers 1.00

00:24:21.680 and other sorts of people who have, like, their own more younger connections into the conservative

00:24:26.860 party to boost herself up. She still has to overcome the label Kevin Falcon's sister-in-law,

00:24:32.120 which is not a joke. She's genuinely the sister-in-law of Kevin Falcon. She's also copied a lot

00:24:38.480 of stuff that Dallas Brody has done and sometimes not actually attributed things to 1BC that she was

00:24:43.920 effectively just erring onto, like, grabbing onto the coattails of. Not holding it against her.

00:24:48.780 Maybe it was all a mistake. I don't know. And then Peter Milibar is, like, the friendly guy in

00:24:54.020 caucus. The guy in caucus that kind of most people really like. He's a sitting MLA. He was a BC

00:25:00.160 liberal for, I believe, a couple of terms before he ended up crossing and becoming a BC conservative

00:25:05.580 right before the last election. He is the arch-BC liberal in this. He's kind of, like, very much a

00:25:13.040 reconciliation industry guy. He was somebody who would have, along with the current interim leader

00:25:18.800 Trevor Halford, said some pretty nasty things about Dallas Brody after she was kicked out of the party 0.97

00:25:23.980 about denialism or we can't have this extremism and this, you know, bigotry in the party. He's out in

00:25:30.620 Kamloops and he's the type of guy who would never cross the Kamloops nation about the 215 grave hoax.

00:25:36.740 He's that kind of a person. He's, like, what I'd call a policy wonk. I know I'm trying to keep this

00:25:42.240 positive, but I just can't be positive about Peter Milibar, even though I think he's going to win.

00:25:46.340 Peter Milibar, again, is just kind of a stalwart establishment BC liberal guy. He understands his

00:25:55.460 way around the legislature. So many people like him. He's a good speaker. There would be a lot of

00:25:59.980 people who really know him. He'd kind of also fit in the Carrie Lynn Finley, KLF kind of side of

00:26:05.800 things, not in terms of ideology, but in terms of the connections and how much influence they have

00:26:11.400 in certain circles. And then other people I've also heard might jump in the race is the former

00:26:17.440 NFA president and the current BC conservative MLA Sheldon Clare. He might end up jumping in. He's a

00:26:25.520 big guns guy. He's from the interior. That might give him some appeal out there. And there's some

00:26:31.120 other people I've heard rumored, but I don't want to name them just because it's just not clear enough

00:26:35.460 if they're actually going to run. I don't want to bring their names into it. But yeah, that's what

00:26:38.940 we have going on here. And this is why I would make the pitch. If you're, you know, looking at this

00:26:43.820 field minus gun and you're not really super inspired, check out the one BC party. You know,

00:26:49.600 we're actually conservative. We actually do the things that the conservatives claimed that they

00:26:53.360 wanted to, but completely walked back. If you look at the roster of MLAs right now in the BC

00:26:58.300 conservatives, you couldn't possibly conclude this was a conservative party. People like

00:27:02.520 Alia Warbus, people like other individuals, like some of them are not in the party anymore. Like

00:27:09.500 the fact that they had Eleanor Sturko and Amelia Bolte in the party was kind of an indictment of

00:27:13.680 them. They have a lot of people who are quite just liberal on issues outside of maybe a couple easy

00:27:19.360 ones like drug policy. I don't think Clare Ratte is exactly super conservative. I don't think 0.99

00:27:25.700 Lynn Block's exactly a fire-breathing conservative. Trevor Halford definitely isn't. Who else do we have 0.98

00:27:32.000 here? Brennan Day is not conservative pretty much at all. Lots of people in that party basically got

00:27:37.340 in because it was the easiest ticket into office. And now whoever becomes leader is going to decide,

00:27:41.740 are you going to start cleaning house and bring in actual conservatives? Or are you just going to

00:27:45.720 claim that we've fixed the problems because now you're the leader and just keep motoring forward

00:27:49.980 with all these terrible MLAs who don't actually care about deep reform to the province outside of easy

00:27:56.200 stuff. Again, like getting rid of safe supply, which pretty much everyone wants to do at this point.

00:27:59.980 And even I could see the NDP getting rid of it in the next year just to try and get the people off

00:28:04.740 their backs. And by the way, there's not going to be a 2026 provincial election. David Eby has said it.

00:28:11.880 And the thing is, I'm not, you could say, well, he could be lying. Yeah, but if you'd know David Eby,

00:28:17.160 he genuinely hates interacting with voters. If he can avoid an election, he's going to avoid it. And he

00:28:22.820 currently has a majority with no reason to actually try and trigger one. But anyways, that should be it

00:28:29.080 for me today, guys. If you want to join 1BC, I will be having a link for that in the description

00:28:34.060 below. You can donate as well. It's coming to the end of the year. Our donations have actually been

00:28:38.420 extremely good in the fourth quarter. If you donate to $100, you get 75% of it back on your

00:28:44.140 taxes. Or $100 only actually costs you $175 to give us because of the tax credits. And of course,

00:28:50.740 we need money to operate. And we are doing this like Moneyball. We are only spending money where it is

00:28:55.560 going to get us a win. But anyways, with that all being said, thank you guys for watching. And I will

00:29:00.880 see you all next time.

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - December 24, 2025

OneBC rises in BC polls! CPBC leadership race chaos after Aaron Gunn drops out!

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