The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - December 24, 2025


OneBC rises in BC polls! CPBC leadership race chaos after Aaron Gunn drops out!


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In this episode, we discuss BC's current polling numbers, polling numbers for the BC Conservative leadership race, and why the BC Green Party is doing so badly in the polls. We also discuss Aaron Gunn's announcement that he will not be running for the Conservative leadership, which will throw the entire race on its head.

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00:00:00.040 Ahoy everyone, Wyatt Claypool here, back again to break down some Canadian polling numbers.
00:00:05.900 Today we will be exclusively discussing the province of British Columbia, but I can assure
00:00:11.380 you even if you're not from BC, you will still find all of this interesting. We will be going
00:00:16.560 over BC provincial polling numbers, polling numbers for the BC conservative leadership race.
00:00:22.220 We will discuss Aaron Gunn just today coming out and saying that he will not be running for the BC
00:00:27.240 conservative leadership, which is going to throw the entire race on its head, and of course I will
00:00:32.520 talk a little bit about the 1 BC party as we go along, but naturally I'm not going to go into all
00:00:38.260 the details over internal drama. Every party has it. Effectively, it was a dumb staffing issue where
00:00:45.080 Dallas Brody was trying to make decisions and people were trying to overrule her even though she's the 1.00
00:00:49.040 leader, and it turned into this extremely unnecessary fight where it seemed like people didn't really
00:00:54.500 respect that she was the leader and eventually a bigger staffing change had to be made. 0.94
00:00:59.640 Dallas is still the leader, we are moving forward, and we are in fact doing very well in the polls as
00:01:05.000 we are about to see here. But before we break down the numbers, I want to do a quick self-plug and
00:01:11.680 mention the fact that under the video you can hit the join button if you want to join the membership
00:01:16.720 program for the channel. It effectively just helps make the channel more sustainable for me and makes
00:01:22.740 me less reliant on the YouTube algorithm. And then one other thing I want to say is Merry Christmas
00:01:28.240 everyone. Thank you for tuning into the show on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day whenever you happen
00:01:33.980 to be viewing this. I'm going to be making a video on Christmas Day tomorrow as well, and it's not going
00:01:40.040 to be one of those self-indulgent five or six minute videos where it's me sitting next to a fire talking
00:01:45.240 about how much I love Christmas and how much the channel's grown over the years. It's going to be just a
00:01:50.380 normal video, so you'll actually have the content that you want rather than some video that every
00:01:55.740 channel puts out just where it's just fluff. I don't like doing fluff, I'd rather just, you know,
00:02:01.140 talk about numbers or talk about things happening in politics federally and whatnot. But anyways,
00:02:06.220 without further ado, let's get in to some BC provincial polls. Now, recently we had two polls come out,
00:02:13.480 one from Main Street Research and one from Palace. The numbers are pretty similar, so I'm just going to be
00:02:19.540 talking about Main Street Research when it comes to the overall provincial numbers. Right now,
00:02:25.740 things are quite tight at the top side of polling. The NDP, the BC NDP, is currently at, according to
00:02:33.960 Main Street Research, 41% in the polls. Probably drew that a little bit high, but you can forgive me.
00:02:41.980 The BC Conservatives are tied with them, sitting also at 41%. I think it's a little bit lower just
00:02:50.060 because it's rounding up, but you understand margin of error. These parties, even if they were like one
00:02:54.600 or two points away, they're effectively tied. And again, it really depends on the distribution of
00:02:59.380 support across the province. But BC NDP and BC Conservatives are both tied at 41% of the polls.
00:03:07.560 And in third place, naturally, we have the Greens, who have also been around for a long time,
00:03:12.760 sitting at 10% in the polls, which is an improvement for them over the last election. I think in the
00:03:19.380 last election, they only had like eight or 9% in the polls or whatever, like provincially. They
00:03:24.520 didn't even run candidates everywhere. I think an entire third of ridings did not have a BC Green
00:03:29.660 leader, sort of candidate. The current BC Green leader, Emily Lowens, far more aggressive than
00:03:35.360 Sonia Firstenau was ever willing to be. You kind of understood, like, I'm not left-wing. I'm
00:03:41.880 obviously right-wing. But if you're going to be the Green party, you better be left-wing. It's like
00:03:47.960 a conservative party. You better be conservative. That's why the BC Conservatives aren't doing so
00:03:51.920 well, because they keep flip-flopping on if they really want to be conservative or not.
00:03:55.900 The Greens are benefited by a more left-wing leader, which is what Emily Lowen is.
00:04:00.340 Sonia Firstenau's husband's, like, in finance. There's only so left-wing she's really going to 0.97
00:04:05.600 get. She's not going to become an anti-capitalist leftist like Emily Lowen is. But in British
00:04:10.840 Columbia, in certain areas, what Emily Lowen is selling, people will buy. Not a lot of them,
00:04:16.700 but more than what were, you know, people purchasing. Sonia Firstenau's slight step to the
00:04:21.900 left of the NDP that really didn't connect with anybody. But, and this is true between both
00:04:28.060 polls. 1BC in this Main Street poll is at 7%, which is not too shabby at all, considering this
00:04:36.740 poll was conducted in the midst of all the 1BC drama. I did not talk about it on the channel,
00:04:43.420 and we actually played it fairly close to the vest, even though we had to be aggressive to get
00:04:47.600 access to the party back. But in spite of all of the drama and whatnot, this poll that was conducted
00:04:54.400 on December, I believe, 17th to the 18th, which was right in the middle of it all. We didn't even
00:05:00.580 have access to the party back by this point. We still hit 7%. Same as Palace Data, which was done
00:05:07.180 a little bit earlier in December. And then also, there was an Angus Reid poll that, for some reason,
00:05:14.220 didn't name 1BC. It was very strange that they did that. But they just threw us in the other category.
00:05:19.400 But even in that poll, the other had like 8%, and Angus Reid admitted like the vast majority of that
00:05:25.200 is 1BC. In that Angus Reid poll, 11% of federal conservatives were voting 1BC and 13% of people
00:05:32.000 who did not vote in the last election. Remember too, when 1BC is at 7%, that is in spite of the fact
00:05:39.360 that probably only about one third of British Columbians are aware enough that 1BC exists and
00:05:45.840 what we believe in, in order to even be able to credibly select us in a poll. That's actually the
00:05:51.220 problem we had in reverse when they started including like Centre BC in polls. The problem
00:05:56.320 with including Centre BC is a top-line pick. They don't have any MLAs. They're being led by a one-term
00:06:01.660 failed MLA, Karen Kirkpatrick. But because Centre isn't the name, you'll get a lot of kind of wishy-washy
00:06:07.320 liberals picking the centrist party, even though they have no credible reason to exist. And we were not
00:06:12.900 included in a lot of the polls earlier on, but Centre was. It was ridiculous. But 1BC, the name
00:06:18.160 doesn't kind of, isn't evocative of anything to people if they don't actually know what we do.
00:06:24.560 So it's going to take a lot longer in order to pump up that name recognition for people to be
00:06:29.420 educated enough to even select us. And even with only around a third, maybe 40% of people knowing
00:06:35.180 who we are at all, even with no details. Because like most people, you knock on their door and ask
00:06:41.080 them who 1BC is, they just say, I don't know. But even with only maybe a third of people having
00:06:45.880 enough awareness to be even capable of selecting 1BC in a poll, we are at 7%. So we are doing quite
00:06:52.400 well. But now I want to show you the increases and decreases in this poll, because I'm going to
00:06:57.620 debunk the stupid notion that 1BC is hurting the Conservatives, that we are basically only splitting
00:07:03.980 their vote and keeping the NDP in. So since the Blast Main Street Research poll, which 1BC was not
00:07:10.300 involved in, 1BC has naturally gone up the full 7% because we weren't in the last poll. The BC Greens
00:07:17.640 have gone up by 2%. The Conservatives have gone down by 3% since the last Main Street poll, and the NDP
00:07:27.580 has gone down by 4% since the last Main Street poll. Now, in a race like this, if the Conservatives and
00:07:35.780 NDP are tied, the Conservatives would probably get a minority government, and then 1BC would probably
00:07:41.200 end up having like one or two seats, and maybe they would hold up their minority government in
00:07:45.800 the legislature. The thing is here, if you do the math, the increase here is 9% and the decrease on
00:07:52.180 that side is 7%. Naturally, that's because 1BC savaged the other category. So people who were just
00:07:58.720 selecting other in previous polls are all pretty much voting 1BC. I think there was only 1% of people
00:08:03.660 who still, with 1BC on the ballot, select another party. And again, some of those people may not
00:08:09.100 even understand what 1BC is, and if they did, they'd select us. But the Conservatives lost three
00:08:14.320 points, and the NDP lost four. Now, you'll notice that we went up by seven, so it couldn't possibly
00:08:20.980 be true that we're just hurting the Conservatives. Even if you were to assume that the Greens stole the
00:08:27.200 2% exclusively from the NDP, which isn't a bad assumption, although NDP voters or Green voters
00:08:32.860 actually kind of come from all sides of the spectrum, it's strange. They're very left-wing, but they
00:08:37.600 also get a lot of just anti-establishment people voting for them. There's a reason why the PPC
00:08:43.160 actually ended up stealing a lot of votes from the Greens, because it's the party of rejecting
00:08:48.000 establishment narratives. It doesn't really, those voters don't really care if it's the left-wing or
00:08:51.820 right-wing, they just want the anti-establishment party. But the Greens go up too, so even if we
00:08:57.500 assumed that that exclusively came from the NDP, that means that we ended up taking 2% from the
00:09:04.520 NDP, we ended up taking 3% from the Conservatives if we were to assume that we exclusively took from
00:09:10.480 them, like all their fall was exclusively going to us. So 2% from the NDP, 3% from the Conservatives,
00:09:18.700 and then we ended up getting another 2% probably from the other category. So no, we're not splitting
00:09:25.960 the Conservatives' vote. We picked up 2% of the votes that they were not getting because they
00:09:30.200 weren't doing a good enough job to get them. We took 2% from the NDP, probably the old blue-collar 0.51
00:09:36.620 trade union voters who just cannot stand how left-wing and progressive the NDP has gotten,
00:09:41.920 and then we took 3% from the Conservatives. Disproportionate maybe, but most of our vote is
00:09:47.600 coming not from the Conservatives, it's coming from other, and it's coming from NDP. By the way,
00:09:52.900 I've said this federally, if you're doing a good job as the main Conservative Party, and they're barely
00:09:58.080 Conservative at all, you will eat the lunch of any small fringe party that comes around.
00:10:03.800 We're not a fringe party because we actually represent a lot of what people want in politics.
00:10:08.780 If the Conservatives were offering what we're offering, we wouldn't have a reason to exist,
00:10:12.940 and we would go off into obscurity. The PPC in 2025, because Paliyev was generally doing his job well,
00:10:19.180 only got 0.7% of the vote, because unlike with O'Toole, Paliyev knew what he was doing,
00:10:25.400 and the PPC did not have nearly as big of a reason to stick around. And I just want to point out,
00:10:30.940 this is a big poll. 1,900 people were polled. We're not fluking out getting 7% because only 400,
00:10:37.440 300 people were polled, and a few extra 1BC people than normal answered the phones. This is a big poll,
00:10:44.080 a large sample, and that's in part because they also ended up polling the BC Conservative leadership.
00:10:50.220 And you need a bigger sample because you want more Conservative respondents to ask,
00:10:54.380 hey, are you a member? Hey, are you planning on voting in the leadership? You know, who do you like?
00:10:59.080 And this is where we get to the Conservative leadership campaign and Aaron Gunn, because
00:11:03.780 it's getting messy because Aaron Gunn's not getting into the race. Even if Aaron Gunn got into it,
00:11:09.400 I actually don't think he would have won as easily as people think. It would be less of a
00:11:14.820 pure Paliyev running in 22 for the federal leadership race and smashing it and getting
00:11:19.100 like 78% of the vote. I don't think that that's how it would go down for Aaron Gunn. There's just
00:11:23.980 too many factions in the Conservative Party. There are people who like Aaron, and there's people who
00:11:27.740 also deeply dislike Aaron within the party. I'm not trying to slag anyone, that's just how it is.
00:11:33.120 Even though I work for the 1BC party, I will try and remain objective in how I talk about this.
00:11:37.660 But I'm going to clear the board, and I'm at least going to show a general overview of where the
00:11:43.480 different candidates are at, and then we will talk about what's going to happen if Aaron Gunn is not
00:11:48.440 in the race. Now, I apologize ahead of time, because this is going to be a bit of a mess to look at,
00:11:56.880 and you will see how much more of a mess it will be when we discuss how Aaron Gunn is not running.
00:12:01.980 So you guys, we'll go over the Main Street research and the Palace data on this race.
00:12:07.700 Maybe I'll just quickly do this. So Main Street is going to be here, the first one, and then we'll
00:12:13.180 have Palace as the second number I write for each person. Can I even keep this? You know what,
00:12:20.200 guys? We're even going to do this. I'm going to erase my pretty title there. Jokes. I have terrible
00:12:26.520 writing. But we're going to have Main Street research as our first number that you're going to see next
00:12:30.640 to each person. And then the second one is going to be Palace. It's not going to line up exactly,
00:12:34.860 but you just know that left to right is Main Street, then Palace. And you're going to see just
00:12:39.620 one, how irrelevant a lot of these candidates are, and it's not to insult them. It's just that it's
00:12:45.320 just too big of a, it's just too many people running in too small of a party. And you could say,
00:12:50.960 well, they're 41%. They're not a small party. The membership of the Conservatives, especially after
00:12:55.380 1BC started existing, died. In the leadership review of John Rustad, maybe 1,700, 1,900 people
00:13:04.600 voted. Emily Lohan, becoming the Green Party leader, got like 5,000 votes. And a fraction of
00:13:11.040 the people even bothered showing up and voting yes or no on John Rustad's leadership of the party.
00:13:17.160 The numbers of people who have just gotten rid of their memberships or just didn't renew them
00:13:22.700 is incredible. They maybe have like low thousands of members, like 4,000, 5,000 members at this point.
00:13:28.840 It's pathetic. Maybe it's a little higher. I don't know, but you get the point. It's cutting off a
00:13:33.280 little bit at the end there because I'm trying to fit it all in. And maybe I'll even add a couple
00:13:36.500 other people. I think our dark horse candidates a bit later, but let's start off with Aaron Gunn.
00:13:43.000 What did each of these people have? I'll write them down in some color so you guys can see. I'll write
00:13:48.280 them down in red or something like that for the Main Street numbers. So Gunn in Main Street Research
00:13:54.820 had, and remember, these polls have massive amounts of undecided. 66% of people in Main Street Research's
00:14:01.780 poll was undecided, and they're asking people who are current members, who have been members at some
00:14:06.460 point, have never been members. I think that's all fine because you're going to have a lot of people
00:14:10.320 becoming members to vote on who they want to become leader, although significantly less because
00:14:15.060 Gunn's not in the race, and it's going to be a less interesting race. I suspect he ends up endorsing
00:14:20.740 his friend Harmon Bangu in the race. But Gunn in Main Street Research was at 18%, followed behind by
00:14:29.260 Peter Milibar at 6%. Christine Elliott, if I can find her on this, was actually only at 1%, even though I
00:14:35.960 consider her a more formidable candidate than many of the others. After that, we had Ian Black was at
00:14:42.720 4%. He's a former BC Cabinet Minister for the BC Liberals, but that was like 2008. Like, this guy's
00:14:49.840 LinkedIn, in terms of politics, is pretty old. I think he ran for the Federal Conservatives in the
00:14:56.900 last election and lost. But when you actually go back to the things that he's going to be talking about
00:15:02.220 as his achievements, it's like ancient history type stuff. We have Chris Gardner at 2%. This is the
00:15:09.980 candidate that John Rustad is currently backing. We have Carrie Lynn Finley, the former Federal Whip,
00:15:16.760 and I believe she was like the Surrey White Rock MP. Her husband is a MLA in the party that is Brent
00:15:25.240 Chapman. Brent Chapman, by the way, is great. I'm a 1BC person, of course. I work in the 1BC Caucus.
00:15:31.680 I will always still say nice things about MLAs that I like. Unfortunately, many of these MLAs
00:15:36.980 are not given nearly as much say in the party as they should, and the BC Conservatives are
00:15:41.540 effectively just run by the BC Liberals at this point. Bangu, in this poll, is at 1% as well,
00:15:49.300 and that is also, I believe, I think Uri Falmer, yeah, he's also just at 1%. I think he's one of
00:15:54.940 those rounding up 1% type people. So yes, you're noticing something here. If you add all of this up,
00:16:03.760 you're at, you know, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, you only get 16% if you add up every single other person
00:16:11.660 compared to, they don't even beat Aaron Gunn combined. It doesn't mean that these people
00:16:16.840 wouldn't gain profile as they're running, and maybe one of them is really interesting,
00:16:20.180 and they start to catch a bit of fire. But the problem is here that there's no like celebrity
00:16:25.980 candidate. Gunn was the celebrity candidate, and he's not running. So let's go over to Palace data
00:16:32.040 right now, and I'll write this one down in, we'll write it down in blue just for your ability to
00:16:37.920 see, even though the Conservative Party, the BC Conservatives these days, do not deserve the color
00:16:42.180 blue. But we will go over all of these. We'll start off with Aaron Gunn here. Aaron Gunn in Palace
00:16:48.980 was doing even better, having 23% of the vote. That is a pretty massive amount. Undecideds in this poll
00:16:58.720 were only 44% because I believe they were more, they were stricter on the definition of if you're
00:17:04.680 like likely to become a member and actually vote or not. We had in this poll going down to the next
00:17:10.420 person trying to find them. We had Peter Milibar in this poll at 8%. Caroline Elliott was at,
00:17:18.940 oh, she was also doing at 8%. See, that's where I think she's more formidable. I think people 0.95
00:17:23.040 who follow politics closer, like Caroline Elliott more, the one thing she has to overcome, and I'm
00:17:29.180 going to put money on it, as in zero imaginary dollars, I'm actually going to put money on it.
00:17:34.400 I don't bet. Caroline Elliott, she can't overcome the label Kevin Falcon's sister-in-law, because she 1.00
00:17:41.440 is in fact Kevin Falcon's sister-in-law. And so if she doesn't come out as like a fire-breathing
00:17:47.160 dragon in this race, I think you're going to see a lot of people who just kind of lose interest.
00:17:50.860 She's kind of a cultural conservative, but on fiscal issues and social issues, I hear she's
00:17:55.540 still kind of a, she's just an old BC liberal in a lot of those ways. I'm not trying to slag her.
00:17:59.700 Everyone has their perspectives. I just don't see her as like the big conservative leader that ties
00:18:05.520 the whole party together. Maybe she can earn it here. And again, I'm saying all of this as a one BC
00:18:09.880 person who frankly does not have confidence in this party. If I'm putting money on it, again, my imaginary
00:18:15.560 dollars, I'm taking off the imaginary money tree. I think Milibar is going to win.
00:18:19.680 But that's not something I'm going to talk about further here. I'm not trying to influence the
00:18:24.020 race. We had Ian Black. Actually, I came in on this poll with a big 0%. Again, smaller sample size
00:18:33.140 that maybe he'll do better as time goes on. Chris Gardner was at, I believe, 1%. Or what is that?
00:18:40.240 Yeah, he's at 1% in this poll. Carrie Lynn Finley was doing much better in this one. She's actually a 0.99
00:18:45.780 second place candidate in this one with 10% of the vote going for her. With a lot of people, 0.74
00:18:51.420 especially in the Surrey and the Vancouver area, who know her. She actually is kind of a big deal
00:18:56.840 in federal politics. She was, again, the whip, the chief whip for Kiripolyev in the party. She's
00:19:03.700 been around for a while. She's helped win tough ridings in the past. I think she is at one point
00:19:08.660 elected. She lost a race and she came back. So she's actually somebody who knows politics quite
00:19:14.600 well, knows everybody in the game. And that's something that she would have an advantage for. 0.75
00:19:19.840 I'm not sure how serious she is about winning, but we'll see how she does as time goes on.
00:19:25.660 Bangu in this one, again, at 1%. And we have Yuri Fulmer in this one, also at, I believe,
00:19:32.220 1%. Yes. Yuri Fulmer, I'll go over and say something about everyone here. I'm actually
00:19:38.740 going to like, I don't even know what, when I say I don't know what to say. Again, I don't want to
00:19:43.540 make it sound like anything is an endorsement or an unendorsement. Again, 1BC, I don't care.
00:19:51.300 I would tell all 1BC people, don't buy a BC Conservative membership to vote for these people. 0.92
00:19:55.760 Remember, this party rigged its own AGM against its own members. Do not give these people money.
00:20:01.240 You can't trust them to actually act properly. But I will talk about these people and give kind
00:20:06.800 of like the best case for them. So first off, let's just scratch out Aaron Gunn from this poll
00:20:13.100 because he is not running anymore. So in this poll, 18% and 23% in that poll of the vote was just
00:20:21.460 wiped out. The top guy is gone. Verifiably gone. He made a video announcing he's not running.
00:20:26.480 Okay. So let's go from the bottom. Uri Fulmer was a BC Conservative candidate for, I believe,
00:20:34.040 North Vancouver Capilano. He lost what I would consider a winnable riding. I'm not sure if that's
00:20:42.100 his fault. The BC Conservative campaign was massively incompetent, I would say. It's not individual's fault
00:20:50.540 exactly. I think it was more of a top down issue with more executive level people who are not acting
00:20:56.020 properly. To the point, I heard because I was the campaign manager for Bruce Banneman in Abbotsford
00:21:02.540 South for most of the race. And in the last 19 days, I ran off and I started doing work for other
00:21:07.420 candidates in tighter races like Lawrence Mock, who's an absolute beauty. We got him across the
00:21:11.820 finish line in Maple Ridge East by like 70, 90 votes, something like that. It was really tight.
00:21:17.420 That was an absolute nail biter of a night watching that race go on. But I was literally told
00:21:24.060 by multiple sources at this point, I was mocked in the BC Conservative HQ because I took such a low
00:21:30.580 salary. I was only making $5,000 a month. And I did not bill anybody my rent for the place I was
00:21:36.980 staying in. I didn't bill gas. I didn't bill food. I didn't bill anything the entire time. Maybe every
00:21:42.640 once in a while, someone had caught me a meal here and there because I was at an event or whatever.
00:21:46.620 And they're like, Oh, don't worry. The party's paying for this. That would be it. And I was
00:21:50.020 mocked because I was being fiscally responsible with donor money and wanting to focus the money
00:21:54.700 on winning the election. That's what that party's like. But enough story time on that.
00:21:59.860 Palmer, good guy, lost what I would consider winnable riding. I don't exactly blame that on him,
00:22:04.940 but he is one of the best fundraisers in the BC Conservative Circle. I'd heard that the guy
00:22:10.000 himself brought in a million dollars to the party. Not him cutting a million dollar check,
00:22:15.520 but him with his network of people was able to bring in just massive amounts of money.
00:22:20.260 That would be the big thing going for him. I know there's some decently influential people who are
00:22:25.500 on his campaign. Harmon Bangu, I think there's a certain type of online conservative who likes Aaron
00:22:31.580 Gunn, whose natural second or third choice was probably Harmon Bangu. And if Aaron Gunn comes out
00:22:36.460 and endorses him, you will probably see Bangu start to jump around 10-12% of the polls just
00:22:42.000 on the endorsement alone. But then he still has to win it for himself. He is still a first-term MLA,
00:22:48.240 like many of them. Younger guy out in, I think it's Abbotsford Langley, Langley-Abbotsford.
00:22:56.320 Wouldn't be a terrible choice from a charisma level, but I don't think that many people still know him.
00:23:02.760 Carrie Lynn Finley, again, you're going to have an old veteran of conservative politics running that 1.00
00:23:09.280 could actually end up giving you a lot of benefits when it comes to federal conservative alliances
00:23:13.600 or alliances with conservative, like, you know, organizers and whatnot in the Surrey and Vancouver
00:23:18.860 areas where the Conservative Party dropped the ball in the last election. That would be the take on her.
00:23:24.500 Chris Gardner is, I really don't know much about him. I just know that John Rustad is backing him
00:23:29.660 up, kind of a, you know, BC Liberals liberal. Maybe a little bit more of a conservative type of a BC
00:23:37.000 liberal, but that's all you can really say about him. Ian Black, kind of a boring former cabinet
00:23:42.720 minister, ran for the federal conservatives, I heard, in the last election. Lost. I'm not sure if he had a
00:23:47.680 good riding or not, but that's kind of what you would say about Ian Black. He has a decent-sized team.
00:23:52.720 Caroline Elliott, she is being backed by the Without Diminishment people, which, without
00:23:58.500 Diminishment, and I'm not trying to be rude, but they're effectively a Caroline Elliott front group.
00:24:02.780 It's this, you know, blog-type news outlet, but it's kind of, like, for, like, very pro-monarchist-type
00:24:09.980 Zoomer politicos or whatever. And I don't exactly disagree with him. By the way, I'm not pro or
00:24:16.000 anti-monarchy. I just don't care. But she's trying to, like, use, like, social media influencers 1.00
00:24:21.680 and other sorts of people who have, like, their own more younger connections into the conservative
00:24:26.860 party to boost herself up. She still has to overcome the label Kevin Falcon's sister-in-law,
00:24:32.120 which is not a joke. She's genuinely the sister-in-law of Kevin Falcon. She's also copied a lot
00:24:38.480 of stuff that Dallas Brody has done and sometimes not actually attributed things to 1BC that she was
00:24:43.920 effectively just erring onto, like, grabbing onto the coattails of. Not holding it against her.
00:24:48.780 Maybe it was all a mistake. I don't know. And then Peter Milibar is, like, the friendly guy in
00:24:54.020 caucus. The guy in caucus that kind of most people really like. He's a sitting MLA. He was a BC
00:25:00.160 liberal for, I believe, a couple of terms before he ended up crossing and becoming a BC conservative
00:25:05.580 right before the last election. He is the arch-BC liberal in this. He's kind of, like, very much a
00:25:13.040 reconciliation industry guy. He was somebody who would have, along with the current interim leader
00:25:18.800 Trevor Halford, said some pretty nasty things about Dallas Brody after she was kicked out of the party 0.97
00:25:23.980 about denialism or we can't have this extremism and this, you know, bigotry in the party. He's out in
00:25:30.620 Kamloops and he's the type of guy who would never cross the Kamloops nation about the 215 grave hoax.
00:25:36.740 He's that kind of a person. He's, like, what I'd call a policy wonk. I know I'm trying to keep this
00:25:42.240 positive, but I just can't be positive about Peter Milibar, even though I think he's going to win.
00:25:46.340 Peter Milibar, again, is just kind of a stalwart establishment BC liberal guy. He understands his
00:25:55.460 way around the legislature. So many people like him. He's a good speaker. There would be a lot of
00:25:59.980 people who really know him. He'd kind of also fit in the Carrie Lynn Finley, KLF kind of side of
00:26:05.800 things, not in terms of ideology, but in terms of the connections and how much influence they have
00:26:11.400 in certain circles. And then other people I've also heard might jump in the race is the former
00:26:17.440 NFA president and the current BC conservative MLA Sheldon Clare. He might end up jumping in. He's a
00:26:25.520 big guns guy. He's from the interior. That might give him some appeal out there. And there's some
00:26:31.120 other people I've heard rumored, but I don't want to name them just because it's just not clear enough
00:26:35.460 if they're actually going to run. I don't want to bring their names into it. But yeah, that's what
00:26:38.940 we have going on here. And this is why I would make the pitch. If you're, you know, looking at this
00:26:43.820 field minus gun and you're not really super inspired, check out the one BC party. You know,
00:26:49.600 we're actually conservative. We actually do the things that the conservatives claimed that they
00:26:53.360 wanted to, but completely walked back. If you look at the roster of MLAs right now in the BC
00:26:58.300 conservatives, you couldn't possibly conclude this was a conservative party. People like
00:27:02.520 Alia Warbus, people like other individuals, like some of them are not in the party anymore. Like
00:27:09.500 the fact that they had Eleanor Sturko and Amelia Bolte in the party was kind of an indictment of
00:27:13.680 them. They have a lot of people who are quite just liberal on issues outside of maybe a couple easy
00:27:19.360 ones like drug policy. I don't think Clare Ratte is exactly super conservative. I don't think 0.99
00:27:25.700 Lynn Block's exactly a fire-breathing conservative. Trevor Halford definitely isn't. Who else do we have 0.98
00:27:32.000 here? Brennan Day is not conservative pretty much at all. Lots of people in that party basically got
00:27:37.340 in because it was the easiest ticket into office. And now whoever becomes leader is going to decide,
00:27:41.740 are you going to start cleaning house and bring in actual conservatives? Or are you just going to
00:27:45.720 claim that we've fixed the problems because now you're the leader and just keep motoring forward
00:27:49.980 with all these terrible MLAs who don't actually care about deep reform to the province outside of easy
00:27:56.200 stuff. Again, like getting rid of safe supply, which pretty much everyone wants to do at this point.
00:27:59.980 And even I could see the NDP getting rid of it in the next year just to try and get the people off
00:28:04.740 their backs. And by the way, there's not going to be a 2026 provincial election. David Eby has said it.
00:28:11.880 And the thing is, I'm not, you could say, well, he could be lying. Yeah, but if you'd know David Eby,
00:28:17.160 he genuinely hates interacting with voters. If he can avoid an election, he's going to avoid it. And he
00:28:22.820 currently has a majority with no reason to actually try and trigger one. But anyways, that should be it
00:28:29.080 for me today, guys. If you want to join 1BC, I will be having a link for that in the description
00:28:34.060 below. You can donate as well. It's coming to the end of the year. Our donations have actually been
00:28:38.420 extremely good in the fourth quarter. If you donate to $100, you get 75% of it back on your
00:28:44.140 taxes. Or $100 only actually costs you $175 to give us because of the tax credits. And of course,
00:28:50.740 we need money to operate. And we are doing this like Moneyball. We are only spending money where it is
00:28:55.560 going to get us a win. But anyways, with that all being said, thank you guys for watching. And I will
00:29:00.880 see you all next time.