The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - October 06, 2024


Pathetic: Trudeau regrets not changing voting system to block Conservatives


Episode Stats

Length

22 minutes

Words per Minute

181.47746

Word Count

4,132

Sentence Count

292

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

Justin Trudeau admits to his biggest regret, and it's not even close to being the most self-serving thing he's ever done in his political career. It's the kind of thing you'd expect from a politician, but it's also the most pathetic thing you'll ever see from a Prime Minister.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I think I've discovered truly one of the most pathetic moments I've ever seen from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
00:00:06.980 A clip, like always, that he posted to his own social media account, not realizing how much of a self-own it actually is.
00:00:15.980 So Trudeau, the other day, went on the podcast of Nate Erickson Smith.
00:00:20.300 He is a fellow liberal MP who happens to do his own podcast while he's in office, which I actually think is an interesting concept that a politician actually keeps doing media work.
00:00:30.900 Because your only job is to communicate, and even though I disagree with Nate Erickson Smith on absolutely everything, I think this is at least useful to do as a politician.
00:00:40.600 But Justin Trudeau went on this podcast to talk about his biggest regret in terms of an unfulfilled promise.
00:00:47.380 And it's the most self-serving thing I've ever seen in my life and looks utterly pathetic.
00:00:53.920 Just check this out.
00:00:56.260 What do you see as, if I could have that one back, I would do it differently the next time?
00:01:03.640 Electoral reform.
00:01:04.880 Ah, yeah, music to my ears.
00:01:06.780 You said that just for me, right?
00:01:08.400 I don't say that just for you.
00:01:09.820 He says it for himself because currently Justin Trudeau and the liberals are on average anywhere from 19 points underneath the conservatives to 22 points.
00:01:21.700 They've even been in one poll 26 points below the conservatives with those who were certain to vote.
00:01:28.280 He is absolutely dead in the water right now.
00:01:30.980 So, of course, he regrets not pursuing electoral reform because at least proportional representation would allow the liberals, in theory, to hold on to 22% of the electorate, the NDP might be able to get 20%, the Greens might be able to cobble together five or so, and they can keep the conservatives out.
00:01:48.420 That's the only reason that he now regrets not having proportional representation because before he thought the current system, first past the post, advantaged him, so he wants this one.
00:01:58.960 And this is also why we should never change the electoral system because we have this one, we've had it forever, and so nobody is changing it to try and benefit themselves.
00:02:08.720 The only people asking for the system to be changed are those who it would benefit, and even they tend to be very inconsistent because people who are in favor of proportional representation still put up arbitrary barriers like, oh, you still have to have 5% of the vote to be able to win a seat.
00:02:23.660 Well, why not 0.3% like each would be if you had a certain rate where it would actually only be like 0.25% to get a seat?
00:02:34.240 Why wouldn't that be how it works?
00:02:35.920 Oh, well, you know, we don't want parties too small to getting in.
00:02:39.100 Okay, well, then just admit that you just want the Green Party to have more seats, but you don't want like the Christian Heritage Party or the Marxist Leninist Party to win a seat because that's really what you're doing here.
00:02:47.740 But I'll let Justin Trudeau keep going and justifying himself.
00:02:51.780 Actually, in one sense, I do say it just for you because I know in just about any other interview.
00:02:56.980 I was going to raise it.
00:02:57.840 Any other interview, the interviewer's eyes glaze over and go, okay, yeah, but give me something real that you regret, right?
00:03:02.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:03:03.080 I say, no, no, no, this is real.
00:03:06.080 For me, I look at where the world is going and where polarization has happened and where excesses of populism have been able to come in.
00:03:15.360 And the...
00:03:45.340 Again, no shade of the PPC guys out there.
00:03:48.280 But the conservatives are an example.
00:03:51.600 The federal conservatives who have traded governments with the liberals for over 100 years, they're an example of the excesses of populism.
00:04:00.540 They're not.
00:04:01.580 You're just unpopular.
00:04:03.480 Everyone...
00:04:04.100 I'm actually not the biggest guy in terms of liking populism because I do find that populism actually doesn't mean anything because it's a changing definition.
00:04:13.620 It's whatever is popular.
00:04:15.040 And sometimes whatever is popular is not particularly right and you have to argue for the right ideas.
00:04:20.500 But Trudeau's definition is basically just like populism run amok is just when I'm not popular.
00:04:26.560 He was technically elected in 2015 on a wave of populism.
00:04:30.120 Populism, oh, the conservatives have gotten stodgy and so we want, you know, sunny waves in Canada.
00:04:36.040 So we elected Justin Trudeau.
00:04:37.740 That's another example of why I don't like populism.
00:04:40.100 People like Justin Trudeau frequently benefit from it from time to time.
00:04:43.620 But like, no, there's not like, oh, we need it to stop the wave.
00:04:48.280 So he's admitting that he wants proportional representation to stop who he views as his primary political opponents now.
00:04:55.380 Now, the winner take all version of first past the post that we have right now where you can get elected as the MP for 100% of people in your riding with 30, you know, 32% of the vote.
00:05:10.180 If it's properly divided, if it's divided amongst other parties, is not just devaluing the votes of so many others, but it's giving you a false sense of, you know, being the only legitimate voice for your community.
00:05:29.700 Is Trudeau telling on himself?
00:05:31.600 Because this is very much how he typically acts, is that he is, because he has a majority government back when he did, that he's the one who speaks for Canadians.
00:05:39.480 Even with minority governments, he pretends that because the Conservatives cannot get their no-confidence motion through, simply because other parties are politically interested in blocking it, not that Canadians don't support it, that that means the Conservatives are unpopular.
00:05:52.840 The man contradicts himself, like, habitually.
00:05:56.700 The man cannot keep a consistent position on absolutely anything.
00:06:01.540 And the idea, and really, he's just salty about the Montreal by-election that happened recently, where his party got, like, 27% of the vote, and he got beat out by the bloc, who had, like, 28%, and then the NDP had 27%.
00:06:13.460 And what I'm just going to say to that is it happens.
00:06:16.020 It sometimes happens at a first past the post system.
00:06:18.420 But look at the vast majority of seats.
00:06:20.280 It's usually someone winning with 48% of the vote, 52%.
00:06:23.960 You go to rural areas for Conservatives, 82% of the vote.
00:06:26.820 And what should we have the person control the riding, who got 17% of the vote, 20% of the vote?
00:06:33.440 I hope we would pick the person who got the most vote.
00:06:35.980 Because the point of electoral systems is to elect a government who is at least a coherent voice.
00:06:41.460 That's why I don't like proportional representation.
00:06:43.880 It leads to very incoherent governments where nobody gets what they want.
00:06:47.400 And not like the nobody gets what they want in the sense of, like, the U.S., where there's a lot of checks and balances and a lot of push and pull.
00:06:54.420 In the U.S., actually, people tend to get what they want because of the freedom of being able to vote against your own party and whatnot.
00:07:00.920 But in Canada, when all the parties mostly just vote down the line of what the leader wants, it leads to just pure gridlock on PR systems.
00:07:09.400 PR systems do not tend to be stable.
00:07:11.460 Just look at Israel.
00:07:12.360 They have an election every five minutes because every single time they go back, people vote for their extremely niche interests.
00:07:19.120 And then you end up in another government where you have to partner with, like, five or six parties who don't want to do most of what you want to do.
00:07:26.420 And they think that they deserve to have everything that they want just because they're upholding your government.
00:07:31.840 It's insane.
00:07:32.540 If I could do things differently, I don't know exactly how I would have, but I certainly would have done things differently around electoral reform to try and make sure that we are not going to be fighting this next election under first past the post again.
00:07:47.680 Yeah, that's easily in nine years the worst day I had as a liberal caucus member was the day we broke that promise.
00:07:54.980 It looked, I mean, there's a, it looked a little bit cynical to say, oh, we couldn't, we can't figure out a path.
00:08:03.220 And so we're going to, you know, just burn it to the ground, never talk about it again.
00:08:06.600 That's probably not how you would feel about it.
00:08:08.300 I made two, two big mistakes on this one.
00:08:11.320 The first one?
00:08:12.440 I would say the first one was promising in the first place.
00:08:15.740 It was just, again, a dumb populist talking point for the 2015 election, who Trudeau had no reason to fulfill because he won the 2015 election on a very first past the post basis.
00:08:28.860 He didn't get the majority of the votes, but he got the majority of the seats.
00:08:31.320 And that was fair at the time.
00:08:32.660 Frankly, the conservatives and the campaign director at the time, Jenny Byrne, ran a bad campaign.
00:08:37.420 And even though Harper is 10 times the prime minister, Justin Trudeau will ever imagine he is, that at the same time, if you run a bad campaign and you lose, it's kind of on you.
00:08:47.540 Because of some very strong voices in my caucus who were very, very clear that they wanted to at least be able to make an argument for proportional representation, which I feel very, very strongly would be a mistake for Canada.
00:09:04.080 I left the door open to proportional representation instead of ranked ballot, even within my own team.
00:09:11.400 And that made a whole bunch of people who heard me say last election is first past the post, translate that into he's going to bring in proportional representation, which I was not, which I never.
00:09:23.660 Oh, so he doesn't want proportional representation because that wouldn't quite benefit the liberals even more than he'd want to.
00:09:30.440 We can probably end this right here.
00:09:31.820 I want to actually move on to another clip of a liberal cheerleader online who doesn't believe in polls because really they just show the conservatives ahead.
00:09:40.000 But they're biased towards conservatives, even though they've been shown to be consistently right.
00:09:43.920 But Trudeau doesn't want proportional representation, he wants ranked balloting because the liberals, in theory, are the middle party.
00:09:51.780 They're really fairly to the left these days, but because the NDP is a little bit more left and the bloc are kind of, depending on the bloc constituency, they're either a little bit to the left of the liberals or a little bit to the right.
00:10:03.800 But they also rely on the liberals to get all their Quebec nationalist type policies and benefits passed in parliament that he believes that people rank a ballot eventually, especially if conservatives can't win a riding or the NDP can't win.
00:10:17.400 They all eventually have to pick the liberals, because if you're a conservative, you ain't picking the Greens.
00:10:22.480 You're not picking the NDP because they're worse.
00:10:24.580 It doesn't mean the liberals are good.
00:10:25.900 It just means that the liberals are 90% the worst thing you've ever seen in your entire life, and the NDP are 95% the worst thing you've ever seen in your entire life, and the Greens would be 100% the worst thing you've ever seen in your entire life.
00:10:38.800 It's a false choice, and that's why I don't often like voting systems like this.
00:10:43.480 It's fine for, like, a leadership race where you're picking between personalities and individuals within a party, so nobody inherently dislikes the other people.
00:10:52.380 Nobody disagrees fully, but is forced to pick the guy.
00:10:56.280 That's not how that works in parties, which is good.
00:10:59.360 But in general national elections, it means that voters are coming up with a fake majority consensus over candidates that they have no interest in,
00:11:10.660 when, in theory, the conservative candidate could have gotten 45% of the vote.
00:11:14.900 45% really strongly liked him.
00:11:18.160 But he doesn't get to win because a bunch of other parties that might have only gotten 10% on the first ballot, and 7, and 25, and whatnot, they don't just keep jamming their stuff together until they have 51% of the votes,
00:11:31.580 and they're not actually really representing even their own people who are having to pick them down-ballot in a strong way.
00:11:39.100 Where the 45% would get strongly represented, they believe in the conservative party's platform,
00:11:43.560 and then the other side who gets 51% after you put a bunch of votes together, well, they, you know, they kind of believe in it.
00:11:51.800 I guess they like them a little bit better than the conservatives, but that's not coherent.
00:11:55.900 And that's my point, is that I don't like voting systems that lead to very incoherent, vague outcomes.
00:12:01.180 And just because somebody gets elected doesn't mean it's not vague.
00:12:04.540 It's vague because you don't really know what people got out of this.
00:12:09.440 Anyways, now I want to jump to this next little thing.
00:12:13.480 This next, actually, was still on the same bookmark page.
00:12:16.980 Now I want to go look over at this guy's TikTok video.
00:12:20.120 His name's Creek Pete Online.
00:12:22.560 A massive, smug, liberal, TikToker, whatever.
00:12:27.680 I don't know in terms of he's actually big in terms of TikTok.
00:12:31.820 I just mean he's a massive liberal cheerleader.
00:12:34.900 Extremely pompous.
00:12:35.980 You'll get a full blast of his personality quite quickly here.
00:12:39.840 But I find stuff like this hilarious in how pathetic it is.
00:12:43.800 Maybe even more pathetic than what we just saw from Justin Trudeau.
00:12:47.660 Warning, he does swear a little bit in this video,
00:12:50.360 and I don't have the tech to go ahead and edit it through and remove it before we do this video.
00:12:56.540 Here's the deal.
00:12:57.120 I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
00:12:58.540 I'm a realist.
00:12:59.300 I look at things and make my own judgments, just like everybody else.
00:13:02.780 But I'm going to say straight out, I think polls are bullshit.
00:13:05.280 And I'll tell you why.
00:13:06.700 I'll show you why I came to this conclusion.
00:13:08.840 It's been something that I've been saying for a while.
00:13:11.660 He looked at the polls.
00:13:13.020 He saw the liberals were in a head, and that's how he came to the conclusion.
00:13:15.840 Let's be real here.
00:13:17.080 If a poll showed the liberals doing well, he would suddenly believe in polls.
00:13:20.300 But they are definitely being used as a tool for manipulation right now.
00:13:25.000 And when you see that poll after poll after poll is coming out every second day, basically, now,
00:13:30.540 there has to be a motivation behind that.
00:13:33.660 Polls are coming out often because there's a lot of polling firms that do it.
00:13:36.860 I don't know what this man's point is.
00:13:39.540 Creek Pete, he's like, oh, poll after poll is coming out, and it's showing the conservatives ahead.
00:13:44.980 I'm like, yeah, also, the by-elections are showing the conservatives are doing well.
00:13:49.400 Even in Montreal, they got 13% of the vote, and people are like, oh, man, the conservatives came in fourth place.
00:13:55.380 Yeah, they got 7% last time.
00:13:56.980 It's Montreal.
00:13:57.860 They still improved their vote.
00:13:59.220 In the Manitoba by-election in Winnipeg, they went from having 25% of the votes to 43% or whatever.
00:14:06.220 It was super close between them and the NDP.
00:14:08.860 The polls have actually been pretty accurate.
00:14:11.160 And before he goes into what he's about to say, know this.
00:14:13.980 The polling firms do most of their political polling for free because they use it as free advertising to show how good they are at market research.
00:14:23.380 So when an election comes around, they're incentivized to be as accurate as possible, unless it's like a strategy firm or a public affairs firm that's obviously biased towards one way or the other,
00:14:33.400 and they get their money from specific people on the political spectrum, so they like to push out numbers that help their party.
00:14:39.700 That's pretty rare.
00:14:40.740 Council of Public Affairs in British Columbia and Alberta obviously do that, like, four days before the Alberta provincial election.
00:14:48.820 Popular vote, like, poll.
00:14:51.100 This is not seats poll.
00:14:52.440 It was a close election on seats, but not the popular vote.
00:14:55.100 Four days before the Alberta election, Council of Public Affairs says, oh, yeah, the Alberta NDP are up 5% provincially.
00:15:02.460 Um, the UCP won by 8.6%.
00:15:06.160 That is a 13.6% miss.
00:15:10.060 That's called being bad at polling, or that's called a fake made-up poll.
00:15:14.540 I don't know which one it is.
00:15:15.820 Maybe they just use a panel that they know is biased to the NDP, and they fart out those numbers because they think it's good for morale.
00:15:21.620 But, you know, that's not real polling.
00:15:24.480 Also, you have to look at who's doing this polling, right?
00:15:27.440 And which polls are being pushed on us?
00:15:30.780 So, here's my conclusion.
00:15:36.080 They're fucking bullshit, and I'll show you why.
00:15:38.160 Here's the man, Angus Reid, himself, retweeting far-right loons on Twitter.
00:15:44.320 Shame on Trudeau.
00:15:45.480 Completely on it.
00:15:46.020 I know Alex Soltan, he's nothing, he's not a far-right loon.
00:15:50.760 He's actually a very good researcher.
00:15:52.560 To legitimize church burning.
00:15:55.580 And there are churches being burned by arsonists all over the place.
00:15:59.120 There's just this one instance that happened to be an actual construction site accident that they're now using to pretend that church burnings have not been happening.
00:16:06.580 Because that happens, right?
00:16:09.340 Trust this guy's polls?
00:16:10.320 I think not.
00:16:11.320 Here's David Coletto.
00:16:12.620 He's a pollster for Sun News.
00:16:13.940 Uh-huh.
00:16:14.840 For sure.
00:16:16.020 Here's David.
00:16:16.740 For context, David Coletto runs the firm Abacus Data.
00:16:20.560 Hanging out at the Manning Center.
00:16:22.980 For sure.
00:16:23.880 I trust this guy.
00:16:24.560 For sure.
00:16:24.900 Totally not biased.
00:16:26.200 These guys are totally non-biased pollsters that we should totally believe.
00:16:30.420 Uh-huh.
00:16:31.220 Okay.
00:16:31.620 You can do what you want.
00:16:32.460 You can believe the polls all you like.
00:16:34.020 But don't let them manipulate you into believing a narrative that isn't necessarily the truth.
00:16:40.500 Okay?
00:16:41.260 Anyway.
00:16:41.880 Have a good one.
00:16:43.020 Does this guy put any?
00:16:44.700 Any?
00:16:44.940 A weight into the fact that the polls have been right about the by-elections?
00:16:50.200 Janet Brown in Alberta was the most accurate pollster in that entire province.
00:16:54.440 And she was one of the most hawkish people on behalf of the UCP believing that the UCP was going to win.
00:17:00.000 But, you know, I, like, not like in terms of being a conservative biased person.
00:17:05.060 I actually believe Janet Brown's a little bit more on the center left.
00:17:08.620 But all the pollsters are showing the conservatives winning.
00:17:11.280 Like, I want to bring up 338 right now just for their federal polls.
00:17:14.180 Um, I'll just remove this.
00:17:16.500 I'll just remove the other thing from my presentation.
00:17:23.200 Feed.
00:17:25.880 I'm just going to bring this up on screen.
00:17:27.460 I know people think that, uh, Kudo Maggie from Main Street Research is, like, like, conservative because he, like, is friendly with conservatives online.
00:17:34.940 But, uh, getting rid of that.
00:17:37.180 What, Nanos?
00:17:38.260 Nick Nanos is very left.
00:17:39.720 Plus 20.
00:17:40.820 What, what's your point?
00:17:42.320 Creepy.
00:17:43.460 Abacus.
00:17:44.040 Oh, I guess they're biased.
00:17:45.080 That's why they gave him two points more.
00:17:46.720 But Leger.
00:17:47.400 20.
00:17:48.380 Ecos.
00:17:48.820 Frank Graves.
00:17:49.540 Very to the left.
00:17:50.300 Like, he keeps, he, he bakes in left-wing bias questions into his polls where he asks conservatives, like, questions about disinformation.
00:17:58.600 And he always concludes, oh, conservatives believe the most disinformation.
00:18:01.640 Because he just, he only throws questions that conservatives believe in disinformation.
00:18:05.840 And half the time, his questions don't actually indicate whether somebody believes disinformation or misinformation or not.
00:18:12.200 He just simply, it's basically the rule according to Frank Graves.
00:18:15.980 But, like, relay strategies, Ipsos, again, Nanos, we have, like, we have tons of pollsters here that, like, are all showing the ND, like, the, the conservative smashing.
00:18:29.980 Like, where is the bias in with all these?
00:18:32.140 Did he go through them?
00:18:32.720 He has two people, apparently, that are putting out bad polls.
00:18:35.540 But they're all agreeing with each other.
00:18:37.420 They're all agreeing with each other.
00:18:38.660 And they're predicting by-elections.
00:18:40.880 This is what predicted, all this national polling is what predicted the Toronto-St. Paul by-election was going to be super close and the conservatives won it.
00:18:49.520 Even though other people are saying, oh, it's a downtown Toronto right.
00:18:52.460 Of course it's going to go liberal.
00:18:53.760 Guys, the polling is accurate.
00:18:55.520 And, like, even just the smug delivery from Creepy there.
00:18:58.840 Oh, you believe the polls?
00:19:00.340 Oh, you're going to believe these people's misinformation?
00:19:03.120 Like, he's always about to start laughing in the middle of his video?
00:19:06.300 You're just, you don't know what you're talking about.
00:19:08.220 And you're, like, snickering your way through your video to cover for the fact that you actually don't have a point.
00:19:13.500 But you're going to act like everyone else is just so ridiculous.
00:19:16.780 I have it all figured out, guys.
00:19:18.220 Guys, I'm a middle-aged man with a beer gut, like, filming myself on my own couch talking about politics.
00:19:24.120 I'm on my couch, too.
00:19:25.380 But, like, you know, don't listen to me just because I say something.
00:19:28.680 Or don't believe me just because I say something.
00:19:30.740 Believe me because I can show you some data or have a factual-based argument.
00:19:35.160 Not this garbage on TikTok.
00:19:36.620 And why do they think so many young people are going conservative?
00:19:39.800 Because these are the left-wing representatives on the platforms they're using.
00:19:43.160 Just absolute pawn-scum garbage content.
00:19:46.720 Steve Boots, Frank Graves, that JV Politics 101 guy, Creek Pete.
00:19:51.780 These are your representatives of liberalism on social media.
00:19:55.620 It's pathetic.
00:19:56.600 It's pathetic.
00:19:57.340 Some of them are, I know, are NDP, but I'm just using liberalism or leftism as more of a catch-all.
00:20:03.760 It's so bad.
00:20:05.060 Smugness in place of actually having any clue what you're talking about.
00:20:08.920 Anyways, that should be it for me today, guys.
00:20:11.440 A quick update on the channel.
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00:21:45.480 So if you haven't seen me do a live stream in a while, it's because I'm out door knocking in British Columbia for the BC Conservatives.
00:21:52.280 Don't have a lot of time.
00:21:53.280 I had the BCNDP trying to attack me yesterday over something that I was fully right about, saying one of their candidates who calls themselves a trade unionist is in fact a trade unionist.
00:22:03.380 Trade unionism is not just being in favor of trade unions.
00:22:07.000 Trade unionism is what you call syndicalism because that's the English word taken from like trade unionism is the English word for syndicalism.
00:22:14.280 syndicalism is about the idea that unions should not just monopolize all labor, that all labor should be unionized.
00:22:22.020 It means that unions should control businesses.
00:22:24.760 All the businesses should be run by the unions, which is an insane far left fascistic socialistic concept.
00:22:32.680 That's also what fascism means.
00:22:34.140 Trade unionism.
00:22:35.620 Oh, all these people don't know what they're talking about, but they tried to attack me and it absolutely flopped as hard as like, you know, a fat guy jumping into a pool.
00:22:43.100 Just how it works out sometimes have a good one guys.