00:05:07.300I do think that we should work together as parties.
00:05:10.020And that's why I've made the offer to Mr. Carney that we would set up an all party committee that would create a united effort on behalf of the whole country to fight for Canada in the United States and in any other market.
00:05:25.680I think that being united will be a real force going forward.
00:05:33.560But I think all parties agree that we want tariff-free access to the United States.
00:05:37.360There might be disagreements about how likely it is to achieve them or how to go about it.
00:05:42.720But on that core fact, there is an agreement.
00:05:45.780We also agree on the sacrosanct nature of the Canadian sovereignty, that we need to protect our country and its distinctiveness.
00:05:53.840The disagreement right now is on getting it done.
00:05:57.140And my criticism, my main criticism of Mr. Carney is that in 10 months, he hasn't really done very much.
00:06:02.400There's been lots of announcements and papers signed and ceremonies held, but not actual results.
00:06:07.980And I think it would be better for us to see some results for him than to spend a half a billion dollars on an election less than a year after the last one.
00:06:16.240Now, and so I think this is good positioning from Pierre Polyev.
00:06:20.140You cannot be the guy demanding an election because some people will then see you as the disruptive one and Mark Carney as the stability.
00:06:46.420But Polyev is making very good suggestions on what they should be doing, saying, hey, let's have an all parties committee on how we could actually negotiate a good deal with the United States.
00:06:55.100We'll even include the NDP, the bloc and the greens.
00:06:59.680And Polyev's idea, it's something I had been advocating for for months, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it's a good idea to propose at any time.
00:07:07.420Polyev said, how about we strike some sort of a Kanzuk deal along with the United States where we band together and we basically have zero tariff relationships among each other.
00:07:19.920And we align against communist China, we align against Russia, we align against Iran, we align against other brutal dictatorships and just crazy Islamic theocracies around the world.
00:07:33.680It's an idea too good for Carney to outright reject, but he also won't take it.
00:07:40.060One, because the liberals are in bed with the CCP and they can't accept it for that reason, and also because they're too arrogant to actually accept help from a conservative.
00:07:50.500And so I think what Polyev is doing is setting himself up very well in this position, on this issue.
00:07:57.280I want to get to this other interview where the interviewer, Peter Mansbridge, then comes back at him and starts asking him about the floor crossings.
00:08:05.220And this is the one thing the media is currently trying to use to insinuate that Polyev's not a strong leader, that things are not stable inside the party.
00:08:14.880And I think Polyev taking this head on is quite good.
00:08:17.780In fact, we've already seen polling coming out.
00:08:20.080I don't have the numbers for you, but one of the pollsters came back from a survey and they said around two thirds of Canadians really don't like the floor crossings.
00:08:27.820It kind of makes them, I guess, a good way of putting this is politically queasy, the idea that no matter what party you favor, people just arbitrarily getting up and leaving is bad form.
00:08:38.640And it reflects badly on the party that accepts in the people crossing the floor for no reason.
00:08:44.300And before some liberal says, well, Wyatt, are you cool with it when liberals cross the floor and join the conservatives, but not when conservatives cross the floor and join the liberals?
00:08:53.080No, I don't like it when conservatives gain liberals because I don't want liberals in our parties.
00:09:00.920This is the problem in British Columbia with the B.C. conservatives.
00:09:04.040It is a party mostly full of B.C. liberals or people who are basically B.C. liberals, even if they had never run for the party or sat as a B.C. liberal MLA.
00:09:13.000The thing is that when a party doesn't have a core philosophy because there's just too many random people in the party with just differing ideologies, it makes it dysfunctional.
00:09:22.960I did not like it when then conservative leader Andrew Scheer brought in Leona Alislev into the party.
00:10:02.420You basically make a soup and then you see how much of the public wants it.
00:10:05.680Just because you add more ingredients to said soup does not actually mean people are more likely to want it.
00:10:12.120If you are selling the conservative soup, generally you should keep it pretty conservative because 90%, 80%, you know, 80% to 90% of the people who are going to vote for you want the pure conservative soup.
00:10:23.800You can sell some people more in the center on it, but you don't need to become a centrist soup to sell them it.
00:10:33.180In fact, really, every time parties water themselves down, what ends up happening, or at least on the right, what always ends up happening, when you move left as a party, you grab up.
00:10:43.500Let's say in Canada, you expand your voter coalition and you gain 200,000 voters for the conservative party, but you lost 300,000 on your right because they said, well, they're not going to do the things I wanted them to do.
00:10:55.780What's the point of me showing up and voting when they're only going to be kind of making changes?
00:11:00.500People want to show up for full fat reform.
00:11:03.100They don't want minor changes, and I think that with the floor crossings from the conservatives to the liberals, it makes liberals queasy.
00:11:14.340And a lot of people who are even liberals just find this kind of gross and gunky.
00:11:19.640Conservatives who voted for these people are definitely never going to vote for them as liberals, and so if anything, it's strengthening the conservative side because they get to replace these weak conservatives with real conservatives.
00:11:29.780And for the liberal side, it makes them look hacky and like they don't really believe in their own message.
00:11:35.080But anyways, now without further ado, here is that clip.
00:11:39.940Let's move it to the other situation in caucus and for caucus management, and that's the issue of the floor crossers.
00:11:47.840There have been three in the past year, and out of your caucus of 140 or so, I mean, three doesn't sound like much, but it is a minority government,
00:11:56.520and we all know how that number can be looked at.
00:12:01.600You've called it dirty backroom deals that were made by the prime minister, who you respect.