The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - March 19, 2026


Pierre on Joe Rogan will cause a Liberal MELTDOWN - EKOS is a Fake pollster!


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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:05.980 Well, it looks like Federal Conservative Party leader Pierre Polyev is really turning up the
00:00:11.040 heat with his new media strategy. Last week, he went on the Trigonometry podcast in the United
00:00:16.760 Kingdom, and just today, he dropped a photo of himself with Joe Rogan announcing that he will
00:00:23.740 be on the Joe Rogan experience this Thursday. Now, this is a very smart move for Polyev to be
00:00:30.280 making now, and I want to explain why during the last federal campaign this would have been a bad
00:00:35.560 idea, and why this is such a great idea now. But before I get to that, I just want to read what
00:00:41.520 Polyev posted above. He says, bought for Canadian workers and Canadian interests on the world's
00:00:47.400 biggest podcast. Thank you, Joe Rogan, for an amazing conversation. Let's get tariff-free trade.
00:00:52.940 Now, this rhetorical line is genius right now. Again, if you did this last April during the
00:01:00.020 federal election, this would have crashed and burned. It would have looked terrible.
00:01:04.560 Because remember, during the April 2025 federal election, the ballot box issue was about who's
00:01:11.680 going to stand up to Trump and the Americans and get rid of the tariffs. And at the time,
00:01:16.700 anti-American hysteria was insane. If Polyev went down to Austin, Texas and sat down on the
00:01:23.940 Joe Rogan experience, he would have been crushed by the liberals in that campaign. It's not fair,
00:01:29.800 it's just how politics in Canada works sometimes. The anti-American hysteria would have made that
00:01:35.300 appearance terrible. I said that at the time, I was saying that people were wrong when they were
00:01:40.240 saying Polyev could have won if he just went on all these random American podcasts. Would that
00:01:45.460 help him in some contexts? Yes, it has to be the right one, and that election was the wrong context
00:01:51.560 to be traveling down to the United States. Mark Carney got away with it going on The Daily Show,
00:01:57.100 or whatever it was, Jon Stewart's show, because he hadn't actually really stepped into politics yet,
00:02:04.200 and sorry, he was on a Democrat show, and the Canadian media don't really care about that sort
00:02:10.240 of thing. They care if you go on the show of a guy who endorsed Trump during an election period,
00:02:15.460 Is that fair? No, it's just how politics works. But right now, this is so good. Because Mark Carney won the last federal election on the false pretense that he knows how to make a deal with Donald Trump and he was going to get it before the end of July. And then it was going to be before the end of August. And then nothing happened.
00:02:35.940 Mark Carney sucks at negotiating.
00:02:38.440 He made all of these promises.
00:02:40.140 Actually, no, he didn't make all these promises.
00:02:41.960 He made one massive promise and kept repeating associated promises with it that he was going to get a trade deal signed.
00:02:48.140 Now, Mark Carney and his surrogates can keep making excuses until the cows come home about, well, we want to get the best deal for Canada, but Trump and the Americans are being unreasonable.
00:02:59.980 Are they?
00:03:01.140 It doesn't matter.
00:03:02.760 You promise to do it.
00:03:04.020 And by the way, of course, you're not getting a trade deal signed because Carney will not let his own negotiators, Dominic LeBlanc, Melanie Jolie, and the new woman that he appointed as the lead on U.S.-Canada trade, he won't let them negotiate.
00:03:19.700 They're not allowed to make new demands.
00:03:21.420 They're not allowed to make concessions.
00:03:23.340 So how are we going to get out of gridlock?
00:03:25.500 We can say that Trump is so unreasonable a deal would never get signed in the first place.
00:03:29.580 Okay, you can say that, but you can't have first promised to have gotten a deal.
00:03:34.720 You cannot promise that you were going to get a deal and then six months later say,
00:03:38.380 oh, he's too unreasonable to get a deal signed with.
00:03:40.900 Okay, you just lied then.
00:03:42.600 You've been lying to people about getting a trade deal signed.
00:03:45.620 And so what Polyev is doing now by going to the United States and going on shows like the Joe Rogan experience
00:03:52.500 is he can pitch himself as the guy who actually knows how the Americans think.
00:03:57.540 he actually knows how to play hardball in a negotiation and get to the zero tariff promise
00:04:03.220 that Mark Carney made. Now, Carney runs away from it all the time and says, oh, I never said
00:04:07.880 I was going to get tariffs off. I said I was going to get the best deal for Canada. Well, by definition,
00:04:12.880 this is the best deal. So what are you talking about? And we know that he's also promised to
00:04:17.200 try and get tariffs off. Absolutely. That was a promise he made. And just saying that he's going
00:04:21.920 to get the best deal for Canada is effectively just a redundant way of saying you're going to
00:04:25.900 get tariffs off. And so Polyev, previously trying to give advice to Carney, saying, hey, I have this
00:04:32.460 great idea that we can basically trade this China agreement and rip it up in exchange for a zero
00:04:37.760 tariff deal with the Americans on autos. Carney is ignoring it. Carney is belittling it. And it's
00:04:43.940 making Carney look bad. Because before when the conservatives were just naysaying the liberals
00:04:49.160 for not getting a deal signed, Carney could fall back on the excuses. Oh, well, I'm trying my best.
00:04:54.080 They're unreasonable. It's touch and go. We're doing as much as we can. But if Polyev is pointing
00:04:59.280 out all these things he could do that he's not doing, Carney is going to start losing his
00:05:03.760 business liberal base who genuinely thought that Carney was some sort of business guru or big
00:05:09.260 intellectual economist who was going to be able to go down and press Donald Trump and make
00:05:13.520 everything roses again. It's not happening. And Polyev going around and doing a tour about no
00:05:18.940 tariffs is going to really get under the skin of the Carney liberal government, who is going to
00:05:24.280 have to respond at some point and explain why their strategy is not Poliev's strategy, and their
00:05:30.140 strategy has failed, so they can't really even say their strategy is better, because Poliev has not
00:05:34.860 been able to actually try his yet, because he's not the prime minister, whereas Carney has almost
00:05:39.160 been trying his for more than a year. Anyways, so with this, I want to now go through some of the
00:05:46.160 reactions to this, because the reactions were unhinged, both from the left, of course, as well
00:05:53.080 as the supposed right. I call them the woke right, those who are effectively anti-Western types who
00:06:00.440 just use artificial right-wing flavors to make themselves seem like they're conservative.
00:06:05.480 Many of these guys who criticize Polia from the right are not intellectually honest about what
00:06:10.680 they personally want. Many of these guys are big government socialists. They just pretend that
00:06:15.600 they're conservative because they are very hawkish on immigration. Now, I want immigration
00:06:20.060 fixed. I want to severely cut the amount of people allowed in the country. I want to get
00:06:25.580 TFWs out of the country overstaying visas. I want to get students out. I want to lower the amount
00:06:30.260 of permanent residents. What all these people do all day long is suspiciously only attack the
00:06:35.300 conservatives. But anyways, before we get into some of the reactions, I just want to mention
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00:07:24.540 has joined so far. But now let's get into some of these reactions. I just saw a bunch of these
00:07:30.740 like liberals I see every day on social media, and I knew I needed to add in what their takes
00:07:36.400 were on this. So this person, Bev, here says, why would any Canadian leader want to align
00:07:43.480 themselves with joe rogan this is someone who has given a platform to voices that downplay
00:07:49.080 feminism what that's just a confusing criticism so because joe rogan she's not even saying he is
00:07:57.520 anti-feminist which he is because feminists are ridiculous he just this person's complaint is he
00:08:02.880 has given a platform to people who downplay feminism which is a very strange criticism
00:08:07.600 as I was saying. Next point they say here, repeatedly framed masculinity in ways critics
00:08:13.980 say reinforces outdated gender roles. Boohoo. Boohoo, Bev. Boohoo. Faces backlash for comments
00:08:23.140 about women, body image, and gender dynamics. Oh, I say again, boohoo. Okay. Yeah. I don't even
00:08:31.740 agree with everything Joe Rogan says. He's definitely not my favorite podcast, but these
00:08:35.540 are like the dumbest arguments you could make against him on these specific issues i couldn't
00:08:40.220 really disagree with joe anything joe rogan says yeah he has tradition traditional gender views
00:08:47.340 like most people okay apparently this is why poliev should be like i don't know sent to the
00:08:54.040 place where they're the dark place where there's gnashing of teeth and like you know sorrow because
00:08:59.440 he's been on a podcast with a guy who thinks women are women and men are men or something
00:09:03.620 down here we see they say canada prides itself on equality respect and progress for women so why
00:09:10.200 elevate someone whose track record so often clashes with those values we should be raising
00:09:15.060 standards not lowering them okay okay bev take a chill pill take a chill uh this other person
00:09:23.660 right here uh gator gum who you've seen on the show before i like highlighting their stuff these
00:09:28.100 are anonymous accounts but i show them because these are anonymous accounts that get a lot of
00:09:32.540 push not just from other anonymous liberals but even liberal mps and liberal strategists so this
00:09:39.780 gator gum person says here poly of is making you sign up to his mailing list so you can watch his
00:09:45.220 amazing conversation amazing okay i guess we're now just attacking poly of because he's a smart
00:09:51.820 politician and he's going to incentivize people to get on the conservative mailing list so then
00:09:56.480 he can send you a link to when the podcast goes live which not only helps boost the podcast's
00:10:01.640 read a podcast reach but also gets him good data for running for uh election the next time that's
00:10:08.600 just smart but apparently the conservatives doing smart things is like nefarious this guy jiggly
00:10:14.920 news who is just a massive carny sycophant says is this the last nail in the coffin no this person
00:10:22.600 here creek pete says here has the meathead vote locked in up so uh locked up so this desperation
00:10:29.320 is laughable and pathetic. Okay, well, that's going to be great calling younger men who like
00:10:34.820 watching Joe Rogan the meathead demographic. I guarantee you liberals are going to get so many
00:10:39.440 votes right now. So this Henry A. person is having a conniption about all this and is using some
00:10:45.620 quotes from Joe Rogan. Here are some of the quotes. I don't go to Canada anymore. I'd rather go to
00:10:51.480 Russia. Next one is Canada is communist. They're effed. And the next one is they're calling them
00:10:57.200 far right and white supremacists it's a classic tactic to demonize people who are just standing
00:11:01.960 up for their rights read the freedom convoy okay um i don't think that canada's an actual
00:11:08.280 communist country it's called hyperbole and yeah i wouldn't go to russia instead of canada as i'm
00:11:14.180 a canadian okay i disagree with those it's called comedic hyperbole you actually think that joe
00:11:20.380 rogan would rather live in like siberia than live in like alberta obviously not and the last quote
00:11:27.100 there is he's just correct. Yes, the Freedom Convoy was not far right. They were not like
00:11:31.680 Nazis or fascists or whatever the liberals like to call them online. Obviously not. And are they
00:11:37.760 really thinking that they're going to make Canadians clutch their pearls about this interview
00:11:41.860 and it's going to hurt Polyev? No doubt in the next day or two, we are going to have so many
00:11:47.080 dumb think pieces from the Toronto Star and the National Observer. And we're going to have panels
00:11:52.600 on CBC and CTV News all talking about how this is horrible and it's a betrayal of Canadians and
00:11:58.780 they will completely bowl over the fact that Polyev was actually seriously talking about
00:12:04.300 solutions to the to the trade problem between Canada and the United States they don't actually
00:12:09.820 like intellectually engaging with anything Polyev says either they are taking him out of context
00:12:15.120 or basically ginning up this idea that Polyev is on his last legs and he's going to have some sort
00:12:19.960 of internal palace coup take him out. Sorry it's not happening. And now I want to highlight another
00:12:27.120 comment by one of these woke right morons, Greg Wycliffe here, who says in reaction to this post
00:12:34.120 by Polyev, sarcastically in all caps, he says, this will break the internet. And then in brackets
00:12:41.700 it says it won't. And he says, but here are my predictions of the different outcomes. One,
00:12:47.960 One, Polyev will look bad because Rogan will call him out for his shortcomings as a conservative.
00:12:53.640 Two, Rogan will look bad here because he will agree to play softball with Polyev and let an uncharismatic establishment dweeb dictate a safe, sanitized conversation for political reasons.
00:13:05.800 Three, it will be a combination of the above.
00:13:08.640 How is it a combination of the above?
00:13:10.560 They're completely contradictory.
00:13:12.020 Four, Pollyov will actually use this as an opportunity to reinvent himself to start pushing harder to move the Overton window on immigration and transgenderism in Canada. I sincerely hope it's four, but I doubt it.
00:13:24.800 Well, Greg is not even on the right. He calls himself right wing, but he's not. He's one of
00:13:31.260 these people who is in fact in favor of big government collectivization. And his only right
00:13:36.040 wing opinion is on like, like gender issues and immigration. It's like, okay, cool. That's like
00:13:42.080 every other conservative in this country. You are very hard pressed to find a conservative who
00:13:47.140 doesn't agree on the issue about gender, getting rid of gender theory in schools, and severely
00:13:53.340 lowering immigration. Yeah, there are some idiots out there, but just as there are many idiots on
00:13:58.460 the woke right who are saying that we should deport people based purely on skin color, who Greg is
00:14:04.300 literally part of that group. No, I'm sorry, Greg, here Paulioff is not joining you and the band of
00:14:10.720 idiots who run the Dominion Society. We're not going to start literally taking out the color
00:14:14.840 swatch to determine whether or not we're going to kick someone out of the country. It's stupid.
00:14:20.080 I'm in favor of getting rid of TFWs.
00:14:22.320 I'm in favor of getting rid of students abusing the system, going to fake universities,
00:14:26.700 and basically just getting into the country to get jobs or join gangs.
00:14:30.480 Yes, we have too many permanent residents.
00:14:32.080 If you're abusing the welfare system and you're a permanent resident,
00:14:35.480 I think we should be able to revoke your PR status and send you back home.
00:14:39.900 But the woke right guys always want the conservatives to take the dumbest possible positions.
00:14:45.840 Oh, we should literally start stripping citizenships from people.
00:14:49.640 Now, if someone got a citizenship on false pretenses and they're a terrorist, sure, that's not what the Dominion Society guys mean.
00:14:56.940 And in fact, they're literally fans of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:15:00.840 The other guy who founded the Dominion Society, Daniel Thierry, literally was celebrating Mark Carney going to China and signing an agreement with Xi Jinping because they are anti-Western dweebs pretending to be on the right.
00:15:14.720 They literally do not like classical liberalism, which is what which is what conservative philosophy is based on. They do not like small government. They think that's all cute. They're really not actually social conservatives. They're just kind of cultural conservatives. They kind of like to use like the whole crosses and Christ is King thing as like a front to pretend that they're like socially conservative guys when they're really not.
00:15:37.460 It's just kind of the same sort of, like, groiper-y trash that you see on X, just, like, naysaying people and posting anti-Semitic memes everywhere.
00:15:45.800 It's obnoxious, but that's my rant on those dweebs.
00:15:49.140 And the one thing I want to still cover in this video is the new ECOS poll.
00:15:55.060 We have to look at this complete turkey of a poll, because this is propaganda.
00:16:01.040 I am a big proponent of polls on this show.
00:16:04.400 I like polls.
00:16:05.440 I do not like bad polls. And now you could say, well, that's simplistic, Wyatt. How do you know a poll is good or bad? Is it realistic? Does it conform to any real world data? Do these polls stand to reason based on what we observe in the real world?
00:16:24.220 Are the liberals currently leading in the polls? Yes, maybe by 5 to 8 points. They are not leading,
00:16:32.900 like this poll is claiming, by 21 points. I'm sorry, Frank Graves runs ECOS, and he hates
00:16:40.680 Hyropoleev's guts. Look at this poll. 48% liberal, 27% conservative, 15% NDP, 5% green.
00:16:52.620 Yeah, the Greens are really skyrocketing these days.
00:16:55.440 They only got like two points in the last election.
00:16:57.480 But no, now is their time to skyrocket.
00:17:00.320 Why?
00:17:01.020 Elizabeth May is probably not even running again.
00:17:02.780 And of course, the Bloc Québécois are at four, even though the Parti Québécois, which is their provincial counterpart, is leading massively in provincial polls right now.
00:17:12.500 Yeah, yeah.
00:17:12.980 The Bloc Québécois are going to be severely underperforming their provincial allies.
00:17:18.440 And the Parti Québécois isn't even their only provincial allies.
00:17:21.140 The CAQ are also provincial allies, and the Quebec Solidaire are also allies.
00:17:26.980 They make up like 50% plus of the provincial vote right now.
00:17:30.780 And we are going to argue that the Bloc is going to do two points worse on a national level than they did last time.
00:17:38.720 That would basically wipe out the Bloc Québécois outside of maybe 10 seats.
00:17:43.420 Maybe they would win 8 to 10.
00:17:45.380 This makes no...
00:17:46.260 The NDP doesn't even have a leader.
00:17:48.760 Their leadership candidates are basically just a bunch of Hamas sympathizers, and they're at 15 points in your poll from 6 to 15 since the last election.
00:18:00.140 No, the PPC is somehow at 2 points, despite the fact they only got 0.7 last election.
00:18:06.940 And again, the Greens, who actually didn't even get 2, they got 1, they're going to get 5 this next time.
00:18:13.780 I cannot stand when people will then look at other polls that show the liberals leading by like six or seven or eight and they say well see ECOS is just ahead of the curve. No they're not. They're a propaganda pollster. When they want the narrative in the media to be that Polyev is crashing they will release just a dead on arrival poll that is not realistic at all.
00:18:36.260 They were showing these sorts of leads in the last election as well, right after Mark Carney became the new prime minister back last March. They showed a poll where the Liberals were leading by 17 points. No. And they were like, well, we're just ahead of the curve.
00:18:52.760 Well, in the last election, they suddenly, suspiciously, right before the election, when they were showing like plus 9, plus 10 results for the liberals, they had it sinked down to like a plus 6.
00:19:03.040 And even that was way off of what the actual results were.
00:19:06.580 If the liberals won by 6 points, they would have had like 190 seats.
00:19:11.500 They won 168.
00:19:13.260 Get out of here, Frank Graves.
00:19:14.660 I cannot stand when people pretend that simply because other pollsters are showing the Liberals
00:19:19.840 leading, that must mean we should believe even the dumbest leads possible. If a poll comes out
00:19:25.160 tomorrow showing the Conservatives leading by 10, I will not believe it, because it's not the
00:19:30.440 environment that we are in. I don't simply just want to have my biases confirmed, I want reality
00:19:36.540 to be confirmed. And when you have all these polls out there showing every single seat in Calgary
00:19:41.600 being won by the Liberals, no. Just no. The Liberals have not swung hard in Alberta.
00:19:49.820 This is what bad polling is. You have no actual, like, there's no control over who is taking the
00:19:56.580 polls. The sample is just full of partisan Liberals, and they are not asking people who
00:20:00.900 they voted last election. If you vote, if you poll a bunch of people who voted Liberal last
00:20:05.320 election, and they're still voting Liberal, and maybe they're even voting Liberal a bit harder,
00:20:09.340 that you shouldn't be shocked.
00:20:11.680 Good pollsters will ask people,
00:20:13.300 who did you vote last time?
00:20:14.960 And then they will ask,
00:20:16.320 who are you going to vote this next time?
00:20:18.100 Because then you can make sure that your poll
00:20:19.840 is not just full of a bunch of partisans
00:20:21.820 who are disproportionately taking the bull
00:20:24.080 compared to other people.
00:20:26.420 Anyways, that should be it for me today, guys.
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