The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - April 25, 2026


Pierre Poilievre should ignore the terrible advice from Erin O’Toole and other fake Conservatives

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Wyatt Claypool
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Erin O'Toole Pierre Poilievre Justin Trudeau Fred DeLore Mark Carney Wyatt
Pierre makes reporter REGRET attacking him at Press Conference! Mark Carney is LYING when he says he is making wages go up. #cdnpoli #canadianpolitics

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2 minutes

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24

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Aaron O'Toole was always a liberal. He was a liberal even when he was the Conservative Party Leader between 2020 and 2022. But for some reason, a gaggle of conservative networkers on social media are saying it's purity testing to say that O'sofle is a liberal, and that's why he's losing.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt here. I don't want to break anyone's heart by saying this, but former
00:00:05.720 Conservative Party leader Aaron O'Toole is a liberal. And he was a liberal even back
00:00:11.340 when he was the Conservative Party leader between 2020 and 2022. But for some reason,
00:00:17.820 there is a gaggle of conservative networkers on social media who are saying that it's purity
00:00:23.220 testing to say that Aaron O'Toole is a liberal. Well, these people are looking mighty silly today 0.97
00:00:29.800 after last afternoon an article came out from Global News 0.66
00:00:34.320 where Aaron O'Toole said that Pierre Polyev needs to moderate his positions,
00:00:39.480 especially on culture war issues.
00:00:42.560 No, that's not going to help Pierre Polyev win.
00:00:45.620 In fact, do you know how we know this would not help Pierre Polyev beat Mark Carney?
00:00:50.540 Because Aaron O'Toole tried it.
00:00:52.620 He tried it against the extremely unpopular Justin Trudeau in the 2021 election,
00:00:58.060 and he lost.
00:00:59.800 Yes, he won the popular vote, but he only got like 34% of the popular vote.
00:01:05.860 He could have beat him.
00:01:07.500 Justin Trudeau was extremely beatable in 2021,
00:01:11.380 but it turns out people didn't want to replace Justin Trudeau with Justin Trudeau-lite.
00:01:16.560 They actually want someone who's going to propose bold change.
00:01:20.060 In fact, Pierre Polyev did not win in 2025,
00:01:23.380 not because he was too hard on the culture war issues.
00:01:26.480 Pierre Polyev did quite well in 2025, and he fell short of winning.
00:01:30.360 I believe the gap between where he is and winning was him not having bold enough policies
00:01:36.580 on several different issues.
00:01:38.520 If he ran on a massive tax cut, I think he would have won.
00:01:41.380 On other policies like immigration, if he ran on bigger reductions, I think he could
00:01:46.060 have won.
00:01:46.720 There are many other areas I think he needed to go harder, but the idea that somehow he's
00:01:52.100 too strong on culture war issues or he emphasizes them too much and that's why he's losing is
00:01:57.160 ludicrous and anyone saying that oh my goodness you're purity testing Aaron O'Toole by saying
00:02:01.740 he's a liberal they're delusional he's a liberal he was always a liberal he betrayed the base
00:02:06.820 constantly as leader he said he was going to get rid of the carbon tax and then replaced
00:02:10.460 his promise to get rid of the carbon tax with his own carbon tax where you didn't even get a rebate
00:02:15.100 you had to spend it up with your O'Toole bucks on like solar panels and whatnot he said he was
00:02:20.100 going to get rid of the firearms ban and then he reversed his position on that later it was his 0.89
00:02:25.600 strategy was asinine and people like fred delori trying to give peer poly of advice on cbc's power 0.93
00:02:32.160 and politics when he was erin o'toole's campaign manager in 2021 is also silly was fred delori 0.93
00:02:39.100 good at one point sure probably was fred delori when he's campaign manager is not as good as fred
00:02:45.660 Deloria is just communications director. Maybe he has a gift for communications. But is the guy
00:02:50.780 helping set the policy as well? No. Aaron O'Toole is a liberal. I'm not sure what Fred Deloria is,
00:02:56.220 but don't listen to him.