The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Poilievre embarrasses Liberal propagandist live on air!

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. I need to show you a great interview on CBC with Federal

00:00:07.280 Conservative Party leader Pierre Polyev. And when I say it's great, I mean that it's great

00:00:12.880 to see Pierre Polyev taking down a liberal propagandist live on air. It's not a super

00:00:19.020 contentious interview, but Polyev ends up having to deal with this person constantly

00:00:23.840 trying to throw liberal talking points past him that are easily debunkable or are effectively

00:00:29.980 not real questions, just attacks on what he had said. This is not a real interview, and

00:00:35.060 I think Polyev handles it great. You can in fact take a terrible interviewer and make

00:00:39.860 it the best interview of your entire career. I wouldn't characterize this as that for Polyev.

00:00:45.400 He's had a lot of great interviews, but this is just a good example in general. But before

00:00:50.440 we get into it, I just want to remind you guys that if you like the channel, make sure to

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00:01:04.780 it so many times. I wasn't wearing my normal button-up shirt or sweater in it because I

00:01:09.700 literally walked three hours from the Abbotsford airport to my hotel and was so exhausted I

00:01:15.480 just couldn't be bothered anymore. But anyways, let's get right into it. I want to show you

00:01:20.500 some segments from this interview. They're kind of back-to-back, so we will be watching a good

00:01:25.600 portion of it, but I will also be linking the full version in the description below as

00:01:30.420 well as pinned at the top of the comments so you guys can see everything that I'm not

00:01:34.260 going to talk about. But we're first going to start off with Polyev criticizing Kearney

00:01:39.160 on major projects. Yes, he announced five major projects, but the problem is some of them have

00:01:44.540 been literally waiting for approvals for years. Some of them are just minor expansions to a project

00:01:49.600 that was already meant to have an expansion, and so Kearney effectively announced nothing. He

00:01:55.340 announced that we are going to take a look and potentially fast-track projects that are already

00:02:00.420 way behind and should have just been approved now. He's not even approving them. He's giving it to

00:02:05.500 the major projects office to look at and potentially approve. But here is Pierre Polyev talking to this

00:02:11.820 CBC host. With achievement. Lots of meetings, lots of politicians patting themselves on the backs.

00:02:17.620 So is Danielle Smith confused then? Is that what you're saying? If you look at the actual results,

00:02:23.360 there have been none. As for a pipeline to the Pacific, we already had one. It was called the

00:02:31.180 Northern Gateway. Justin Trudeau killed it. Well, the courts said that there was not sufficient

00:02:35.860 consultation. With respect, the justice... That's ridiculous. Well, you know what? The court said this.

00:02:41.300 Okay, well, lady, look at all the discourse about that court case. It was a ridiculous court case 0.88

00:02:47.660 where they said that you just can't build it because there wasn't enough consultation with

00:02:51.440 indigenous groups. But the problem is, is that right now in the law, there's no way of actually

00:02:55.940 sufficiently consulting, especially because in situations like with the Wet'suwet'en, the ban

00:03:01.040 council can literally vote in favor of the project. But then you'll have a hereditary chief just walk out

00:03:06.020 of the woods and say, oh, no, no, we can't do it because I say no. It's like, well, yeah, activist judges

00:03:11.080 will block anything. And that's why we need laws that just mass approve these projects and can go

00:03:16.380 around these ridiculous courts. The project was approved and the Trudeau cabinet killed it.

00:03:23.560 They vetoed it. That is a fact. And so that was a multi-billion dollar project that would have been

00:03:30.140 completed seven or eight years ago. Mr. Carney testified against that project. So this might be

00:03:36.000 another... When you're saying testified at a parliamentary committee. He did. He testified

00:03:38.540 at a parliamentary committee against a pipeline from Hardesty, Alberta to Kitimat, BC, which is

00:03:44.120 exactly the project with some very minor modifications that Ms. Smith is pushing for now. So we're hoping

00:03:50.700 that Mr. Carney has flip-flopped on this and he'll go ahead with it. But what I would really say on this

00:03:56.140 is when it comes to these projects, we have 38 projects the federal government has been holding up

00:04:02.660 that are in the Impact Assessment Act system already. They're in progress right now. They only

00:04:09.500 need to get a permit to go ahead. They don't need a government grant, a government handout,

00:04:14.800 a press release, a photo op. They really need one thing from Mark Carney. Get out of the way.

00:04:21.720 And this is the problem. I'm going to take this thing off screen for a second. And Polly, I was absolutely

00:04:26.880 right about this, is that Carney and the liberals are getting so much praise from the media. This is

00:04:33.520 where they become stenographers. They are playing everything that Carney is saying as an achievement

00:04:39.000 because he says it's an achievement. Oh, look, we're moving ahead on major projects, even though

00:04:44.220 Polly can say there are dozens of more projects that literally just need your sign off and they can get

00:04:48.820 off the ground right now and he won't do it. That's pathetic. The media should be covering just

00:04:54.080 how many projects literally could be could be started right now if he just actually have his

00:05:00.060 cabinet basically just signed off on it. They could do it now. ASAP. They didn't even need Bill C-5 to do

00:05:06.080 it. They could have already done it. Cabinet already has the power to overrule regulations or special

00:05:11.340 circumstances. And so when the media acts like, oh, well, you're not satisfied with it, but other people

00:05:16.900 say they're satisfied. Of course, Smith, of course, other premiers are going to say they're okay with

00:05:20.840 this. What are they going to get into a fight with Carney at the same time they're trying to court him

00:05:24.840 into actually maybe doing something for them? They're going to play their cards well. And I think

00:05:30.620 if that they don't see a pipeline for Alberta in by the end of the year, you will see Premier Smith

00:05:36.560 open up on Mark Carney. But obviously, right after a meeting with him, you have to play your cards

00:05:42.480 right and you're not going to look like you're the problem in being contentious. You're going to have

00:05:46.200 the ball be in his court, see if he screws up, then you can call him out for it. But now we can get

00:05:50.700 back to the interview here. Grant a permit so that private money can build private projects that

00:05:56.540 actually make money for our country rather than cost the taxpayer. I still do not understand though

00:06:02.080 why you are saying he's in the way, nothing to see here. The office, you know, you're dismissing it

00:06:08.120 as one employee. That's the CEO. I don't know how many other people have or haven't been hired.

00:06:12.560 Um, but, but you have Daniel Smith, Tim Houston, Wob Canu, the business community themselves saying,

00:06:19.440 this is important. Uh, Daniel Smith saying, be patient. How is it that you're saying nothing to

00:06:24.460 see here when so many other people seem to think across the political spectrum, seem to think that

00:06:29.460 this is meaningful? The thing is, it's such a stupid thing for her to say. He's already described

00:06:34.620 why this is not that big a deal is that these are not even projects are fast tracking. The,

00:06:39.960 the major projects office are, is just going to take on these projects and evaluate what them,

00:06:44.620 whether or not they should be fast tracked. These are things that could have been signed off not

00:06:47.800 only now, but could have been signed off years ago. And remember Carney was the economic advisor

00:06:52.860 to Trudeau and somehow he never advised him to speed any of these projects up. The thing is that

00:06:57.320 Polioff's not taking stupid nonsense at face value. Premiers sometimes have to take the prime

00:07:02.720 minister's stupid nonsense at face value. But when you're opposition leader, you can actually be a

00:07:07.740 little bit more pointed about the lack of achievements from the government. But so she

00:07:12.660 references all these premiers. And I think that Polioff handles it very well. Again, I think she's

00:07:17.560 right. We have to be patient because of Mark Carney's, uh, snail's pace. Um, I mean,

00:07:22.980 but that's not what she's saying. What I'm saying is that, that Mark Carney has been prime minister

00:07:28.480 for six months. Now he promised that we would move at unprecedented speeds, uh, that this was like

00:07:34.720 wartime six months has gone by. Let me give you an example. The Germans built an import terminal 0.93

00:07:40.080 for LNG from concept. And I just want to mention too, media never brings up the Carney comments from

00:07:48.220 the election. Like they'll mention them, but usually only in the context that a conservative

00:07:51.860 is bringing them up and trying to hold them accountable. But you think the media would have

00:07:55.860 had way more articles and way more commentary on why are we taking a summer break? Didn't he say that

00:08:00.580 we're in a crisis and we got to get moving? This is the problem is that in the media, there isn't

00:08:04.920 that sort of memory of anything Carney's ever said because they're deliberately foolish. These

00:08:09.580 people know that Carney promised all this stuff and he's contradicting himself by taking this long

00:08:14.160 summer break and not really having any projects that are worth having these five very minor projects

00:08:20.080 that he's potentially going to approve. They just act like completely unskeptical. Even an old 0.99

00:08:25.900 Smith likes it. Smith just said, be patient. She isn't even saying he's doing a great

00:08:30.380 job. She's just saying that at some point we may actually be able to get something. Implying that

00:08:34.620 right now we're not getting something because you have to be patient. To completion in 194 days.

00:08:42.100 That is not the permit or the announcement or the press release. That means the thing was

00:08:46.520 functional in about the amount of time Mark Carney has been prime minister, during which time he has

00:08:52.840 not approved a single major project. What he has done is taken five projects that were basically

00:08:59.140 approved already, sent them to yet another bureaucracy, which is going to review them and

00:09:04.460 consider them going ahead. And there is not an oil pipeline on that list. I don't want to be

00:09:10.800 negative, so I'm going to be positive here. We're proposing the Canadian Sovereignty Act, which would

00:09:16.040 get the government out of the way so that we could rapidly build, the private industry without taxpayer

00:09:21.960 subsidies could build pipelines, mines, LNG terminals, nuclear plants, and more. It would expedite the 38

00:09:32.100 projects that have been waiting for federal approval, and it would invite the hundreds more that the

00:09:37.280 federal government is blocking, according to Scott Moe. So let's pass. And this is another thing that the

00:09:43.060 media ignores, is that when the government was justifying, when the sources in the government were

00:09:48.180 justifying why there wasn't a pipeline on the list, it should tell them that there's not going to be a

00:09:52.580 pipeline. Because their own excuse was that there wasn't a business case for it, because no private

00:09:57.020 company wants to put up all the money, not realizing that the reason that nobody wants to put up all the

00:10:01.660 money is that the amount of money is excessive because of government regulations and taxes. If you solve the

00:10:07.140 regulation problem, all the restrictions in legislation on tankers and on building pipelines, because you have to

00:10:14.340 have all these extra environmental reviews and consultations, you could get it done. But they act

00:10:18.360 like this is just reality. Oh, it just can't happen because they can't put up enough money. As if the

00:10:23.540 regulations are like from nature, and they cannot be taken away because it's just a fundamental reality

00:10:28.500 of life in Canada. I guess it is a fundamental reality with the liberal government. But it doesn't

00:10:33.540 have to be this way. But they act like this is just default. And the media should be far more skeptical

00:10:38.060 about any liberal just saying that, oh, it's just the business won't put up enough money. Well, what are you guys

00:10:42.960 doing to make it easier for business to put up the money? We're not saying grants. We're saying,

00:10:47.200 is there any way that you're going to suspend some regulations for them or rescind some or give them

00:10:51.280 a tax break so they can build this thing? No, no skepticism at all from the CBC. And the CBC was the

00:10:57.360 one who did the original reporting on why no pipelines, and they just said, oh, there's no business case.

00:11:01.880 That's the sovereignty. I'm offering Mark Carney to take the act and pass it. I'll give him credit for it.

00:11:08.300 Again, Scott most of the time there were 100 projects that were priorities. He did not say the federal

00:11:11.920 government was blocking it. But I want to talk to you about a related issue here, which is...

00:11:15.640 Again, that's another snipe across, trying to throw another ball across home plate there,

00:11:21.780 where she's saying, well, he just said there was a bunch of projects that were priorities.

00:11:25.020 Okay. So why aren't we fast-tracking those ones? That's the thing. Yes, nobody thinks these are

00:11:30.140 federal projects. It's all going to be their own projects. And yeah, like Scott Moe never said that

00:11:35.240 the government was specifically holding them up. The problem is that regulations hold them up.

00:11:39.300 The problem is the system holds them up. And he's supposed to be the guy wanting to fast-track

00:11:43.400 this stuff. About emissions, carbon emissions. I've been covering you for years. I cannot recall

00:11:50.380 hearing you talk about concerns around climate change. Do you worry about what climate change

00:11:57.060 will do to our planet, Pierre Polyev? What a thing to ask a question about in an interview with the

00:12:04.420 opposition leader. I haven't felt that you're taking this seriously enough. Why aren't you talking

00:12:10.380 about climate and emissions? It's like, what? We're in an economic crisis right now. And by the

00:12:16.540 way, our actual per capita emissions keep going down because it turns out it has nothing to do

00:12:22.060 with government regulations. Capitalism has been lowering emissions for a very long time because

00:12:27.580 people want the fuel that they buy to stretch as far as possible by having more efficient homes and

00:12:35.500 engines, all that stuff. It's not the government telling business that they have to value their

00:12:40.900 dollar for business to value their dollar and want energy to be more efficient, obviously.

00:12:46.660 But the whole idea that we are going to waste Polyev's time, basically with an attack, this is

00:12:51.820 effectively an attack saying, I've never heard you talk about climate change. The implication being

00:12:56.240 that he doesn't care. He doesn't care about the planet. And if you care about the planet,

00:13:00.340 then you can't vote conservative. This is just a crappy question. But anyways, let's get back to it.

00:13:06.040 I thought this is where I think he does a really good job of calling out the nonsense about thinking

00:13:10.240 that caring equals doing something. Sure. And that's why I'm so disappointed with the very

00:13:17.500 problematic approach of the liberal government, which has been to drive up energy costs and block

00:13:23.920 projects from going ahead that would help the environment. So are you an environmentalist,

00:13:28.300 Pierre Paulian? Sure. You can. What was with that? What was with that voice she had there?

00:13:32.560 Oh, you're an environmentalist? Oh, I'm laughing because it's so ridiculous to think that you would

00:13:39.760 care. You don't care. You're just an environmental villain. Call me whatever you like. No.

00:13:44.340 The environment. So are you an environmentalist, Pierre Paulian? I'm sure you can call me whatever

00:13:49.160 you like. No, I want to know what you'd call yourself. Do you? I mean, we are talking about

00:13:52.700 like sea levels rising, worried about loss of biodiversity. You worry about those things.

00:13:59.860 Sure. And I also have solutions. Like if we were to displace sturdy Asian coal fire plants with clean 1.00

00:14:08.660 Canadian natural gas, according to the National Bank, we could reduce global emissions by 2.5

00:14:15.580 billion tons, which is three times the emissions of all of Canada for a year. And but to do that,

00:14:22.920 you need liquefaction terminals like the one that Prime Minister Harper approved, LNG Canada. And we

00:14:29.820 shouldn't be talking about having one more. We should be talking about having 18 or 19 LNG

00:14:34.720 liquefaction plants. That's the number that were proposed when the Liberals took office.

00:14:40.120 And so what I propose, let's take our natural gas, which is very clean, which is very cheap in Canada.

00:14:46.280 Right now, we only get $3 per million metric British thermal units. And let's sell it to Asia for $14.

00:14:52.700 We could help power the biggest, the most populous continent by getting them off of dirtier coal

00:14:58.620 and reducing global emissions. What's she going to say? What's she going to interrupt him

00:15:03.760 to say here? He's making good points backed up by the by the woes at the World Bank, the Bank of

00:15:10.620 Canada or whatever, like something about that. This is just math. If you replace coal from these

00:15:18.140 countries with natural gas from Canada, the overall amount of emissions on the planet will go down.

00:15:24.020 And it's not because anyone's mandating that these countries use natural gas. This is in government.

00:15:28.280 It's capitalism giving people a more efficient form of energy that they want, but cannot get access to

00:15:35.200 because our economy, our country is being run so poorly. We can't build LNG terminals. If we could

00:15:41.440 do that, we could build more liquefaction plants. You could export this stuff in much larger quantities.

00:15:47.760 And then she comes and pipes in here. 1.00

00:15:49.400 Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. But, but, but, but, but,

00:15:52.540 it's like populous continent by getting them off of dirtier coal and reducing global emissions.

00:15:58.460 And, but the real difference between myself and the, and the liberals on this is they believe in

00:16:02.940 keeping it in the ground. Those are Mr. Carney's words, by the way, he wrote them. We can debate

00:16:08.060 whether he's, he's flip-flopped on that as well, or are the conservative approach, which is let's use

00:16:14.740 our energy to grow the paychecks of our people and protect the environment. I, they believe

00:16:19.220 in energy poverty. I believe in energy abundance. And that is the approach that we would take to the

00:16:25.260 environment. If you are worried, you say you're worried about climate change. Why have we not

00:16:28.200 seen you ever commit to emissions? Oh, it's no, just who cares about the points he was making there?

00:16:33.660 It has nothing to do with my talking points. So let's just go back to the talk. Why haven't I,

00:16:37.460 why haven't I seen you, uh, hugging a fern, Mr. Polioff? Why, why have I never seen you chained up to a

00:16:45.680 redwood tree? You know, I, I don't recall you owning the criterion edition of the Lorax. I, I don't,

00:16:54.080 I don't recall ever seeing you, uh, take it, like, take a picture while you're planting saplings.

00:17:00.100 What the heck is this interview? Yes, he has a more coherent, uh, vision when it comes to

00:17:07.120 climate than the liberals. And she can't have that. So she goes back to, back to saying,

00:17:11.860 oh my goodness, I've never seen you block, uh, block an oil tanker with Greenpeace. That's the

00:17:15.940 real sign of being caring about the environment. My goodness is, is becoming like the pole pot 1.00

00:17:20.860 of economics and saying that we need degrowth. Reductions. I just did right now. That's not a

00:17:26.200 target. That's saying we should do more to reduce emissions reductions. I love it. I love it.

00:17:30.760 She also goes into, to, to, she also goes into the voice of someone who really cares.

00:17:35.640 She, she really cares because she's lowering, lowering her voice down to the level where you

00:17:40.660 barely hear her. She is at church most levels of speech wondering, Mr. Polio, why haven't I heard

00:17:47.920 you talk about it? And then he falls up and you're like, we, what was I just doing?

00:17:51.780 About climate change. Why have we not seen you ever commit to emissions reductions?

00:17:56.100 I just did right now. That's not a target. That's saying we should do more to reduce,

00:17:59.660 to reduce our emissions. That's not about meeting the Paris targets. That's not.

00:18:02.660 Who cares about targets? Well, if we're reducing, who cares? If we're reducing the amount of emissions

00:18:08.420 per capita, who cares? Oh, no, we need raw emissions going on. What are you going to do,

00:18:12.280 kill people? No. Stupid.

00:18:14.760 Saying our 2030 targets are right, wrong, should be higher, lower.

00:18:19.120 The current government is not meeting its emissions targets.

00:18:21.600 But I'm asking whether you think those are valuable targets, not about what the federal

00:18:24.940 government is doing, which you've been clear about.

00:18:26.420 It would be very easy. In fact, it would be much, it'd be very easy to meet all of those

00:18:31.020 targets if we include the global reductions that the export of Canadian nuclear and natural

00:18:38.740 gas would engender. And so I'd say, sure, not only could we, we could reduce, we could displace

00:18:46.060 the equivalent of three years of emissions in Canada by sending our Canadian natural gas over

00:18:55.280 to Asia and displacing dirty coal. I mean, you know, the, the.

00:18:59.520 You're a racist, Mr. Polly. Don't say dirty coal. That's horrible. Like, I don't even know

00:19:03.860 how she can respond to this. I think she just tries to move on.

00:19:06.220 Asian economies are adding these coal fire plants one after the other, because they don't 0.54

00:19:10.240 have access to affordable natural gas. We have the most affordable gas. It's easy for

00:19:15.680 us to liquefy it because our cold climate does most of the work. And we have the shortest

00:19:20.060 shipping distances to both Asia and Europe of any country in the Americas. So why would

00:19:25.660 we not use that kind of pragmatic approach that enriches rather than impoverishes us?

00:19:29.700 I want to turn to another one of your policy proposals here.

00:19:32.200 Oh, we got to move on. We have to move on. What is this point that she's trying to bring

00:19:36.260 up?

00:19:37.020 Because our time is finite. You have called.

00:19:38.880 Oh, our time is finite. I can't, I can't, we can't talk about the nonsense. I'm, I just,

00:19:42.440 you, the nonsense I've been saying that you like destroyed.

00:19:45.100 On the government to get rid of the temporary foreign worker program.

00:19:47.800 Oh yeah. Okay. She's just fully moving on to saying else. So if you guys want to see

00:19:50.460 the full version of that interview, linked in the description below, pinned at the top

00:19:54.580 of the comments, like, yeah, I love seeing CBC journalists get destroyed like this. And

00:20:00.140 that was someone being destroyed. She, she has this soft tone. Well, I've never seen you,

00:20:05.200 Mr. Polyev, you know, I've never seen you play in the mud and declare your fealty to mother

00:20:12.520 earth. Well, how can you be an environmentalist? Oh, we got to move on. We got to move on.

00:20:17.180 Another topic. My goodness. So that was a great moment for Pierre Polyev. And I

00:20:21.760 hope to see him destroy people like this more in the future. But yeah, it's just the, it's only

00:20:27.980 liberal talking point. It's just trying to sow doubt in the viewer's mind that whatever he's

00:20:32.640 saying doesn't really, it's not, it's not good enough. Or what he's, what he's saying is a

00:20:36.820 deflection because where's your, where's your Paris targets? Well, why, which target do you

00:20:41.500 prefer? Who cares? And that's a good point. The government doesn't hit their, hit their targets

00:20:46.020 and they're super serious about it apparently. So maybe let's just stop with the stupid targets

00:20:50.200 anyways. So with that being said, guys, thanks for watching. Thanks for tuning in. I'm about to go

00:20:56.740 off to the 1BC event that we are holding here in Abbotsford. No doubt I'll be telling you guys

00:21:01.520 about it in the future. But remember, of course, to like the video, subscribe, leave a comment,

00:21:06.620 share with your friends, and I will see you guys next time.

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - September 14, 2025

Poilievre embarrasses Liberal propagandist live on air!

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