Poilievre Looks Stronger Than Mark Carney in NEW poll - CPC LPC tie at 40%
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Summary
In this episode, we go through a recent Abacus data poll that shows a lot of strength for the Tories, despite the demographics leaning more liberal than a normal Canadian electorate would actually look like. I discuss why I think this is a good sign for the PPC, and why I don't think the party will survive the next election.
Transcript
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Ahoy everyone, Wyatt Claypool here, back again to talk about some more Canadian national polling numbers.
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On the show today, we're going to go through an Abacus data poll that I think shows a lot of strength for Pierre Polyev's Conservatives,
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despite the demographics actually leaning more liberal in this poll than what I think a normal Canadian electorate would actually look like.
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I'll get to what I mean by that in just a second, but before we get into the numbers, I just want to remind you guys,
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But now, without further ado, let's get into the top-line numbers from this recent Abacus data poll.
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Now, they're not that exciting on the surface, but as we go below in terms of regional demographics as well as age brackets,
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you'll see why this is such a good poll for Pierre Polyev's Conservatives.
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Starting out, we have the Liberals in this poll, polling up to 40%.
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Now, remember, they ended up getting 43% in the last federal election, so they have softened a little bit in the polling.
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I think as Canadians are seeing them not really achieve too much, they're having some of those voters along the margins
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really paying attention, starting to, you know, at least pull back their Liberal vote.
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Maybe they're not switching over to Conservatives quite yet, but they're becoming undecided these days.
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A lot of these polls usually have four or five points of people who don't really know where their vote's going to go right now.
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And then, followed behind the Liberals, or effectively tied, we have the Conservatives, who are also at 40%.
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I think in the decimal points, they might be slightly behind, but they're within the margin of error,
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So we have the Conservatives there also at 40%.
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This poll then has the NDP followed behind now at 8%.
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Remember, they only got 6% in the last federal election, so even this is an improvement for them.
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And they are still leaderless at the moment, so you can't really judge them too hard based on how they're polling at the moment.
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Once they likely either have Heather McPherson, who is a sitting NDP, MP, take the leadership,
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or one of the outsider candidates like Avi Lewis or Rob Ashton win,
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you will probably see an upward trend for the NDP after around March when the new leader is selected.
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And then, after the NDP, we have the Blocs, Quebecois, who are a little bit behind them,
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but obviously they only run in Quebec, and the Bloc is at 7%,
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which is actually a point better than they did in the last election,
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and because, again, all that is concentrated in the province of Quebec would have them win back a few seats.
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The Greens probably had a bit of an overperformance in this poll,
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I don't see the PPC actually surviving this next election.
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They were already only at 0.7% in the last election.
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If anything, Polyev has become more right-wing since the election on topics like immigration,
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the economy, you know, just foreign policy, a lot of that stuff.
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which means how does the PPC win back any of its support?
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I assume that the party is going to go bankrupt.
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They're not going to run many candidates next election,
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and then they'll effectively go away at that point,
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which means not only will the Conservatives pick up the 1%, the PPC likely has,
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but they'll probably actually do even better than that,
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simply because all the volunteers who may have wasted time working with the PPC,
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I don't necessarily always think it's a waste of time helping small parties.
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I door knocked for the new blue party in the provincial election in Ontario
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But the thing is, when the bigger party is doing a good job
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some of those people might be your best volunteers.
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The type of people who volunteer for a small party are hardcore,
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that's going to probably generate thousands of more doors knocked
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But I just want to give a little bit more context to this
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to demonstrate why this is such a great poll for Pierre Polyev.
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and I think the only parties that ended up gaining here
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was the Bloc Québécois jumping up 1% to their 7% rate,
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What's going on here, and especially what's indicated by
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is that probably people are just in a bit of a holding pattern right now.
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Remember, this does not include the undecideds.
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This is after all of the undecideds are taken out,
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and you've reallocated which parties certain voters
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are maybe leaning towards if they are not fully decided yet.
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What you're probably seeing is about maybe even 10% of people held back
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who have not decided who they're going to support.
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the Conservatives are only down by about 1.3%, 1.2%.
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They are way further down since the election than the Conservatives are,
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and it is benefiting both the NDP and the Bloc Québécois.
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The Conservatives already have as many seats in Quebec
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It means you don't have to fear the Quebec vote
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You can run on some stuff that may even be controversial in that province.
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more small government Conservative seats in that province.
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It's not going to change if they even take a side against supply management.
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They could actually run on that and gain support.
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And even if it kind of goes against the Quebec political culture,
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which tends to be a little bit more big government,
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And you might lose a point in Quebec, a few points in Quebec.
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You're still going to hold on to the ridings you already have.
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Look, the Conservative voters are not going to go vote Liberal.
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So what's really the harm in running on a more bold,
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even if it's kind of out of step with how Quebec voters
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But now I want to move on to some of the demographic polling
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and the regional polling to demonstrate, again,
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why this is such a good poll for the Conservatives.
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And then I want to talk a bit about Pierre Paglia's approval
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and disapproval numbers that are indicative of the Conservatives
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seems more left-wing than a typical Abacus data sample.
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I'll just clear the board and we'll be back in one second.
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We're back and we're going to start with the regionals
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So these three regions are really the swing regions of Canada.
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what's going to go on in Saskatchewan, Alberta,
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We don't really have to care about it too much.
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British Columbia, Ontario, and Atlantic Canada.
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But it's an outlier that should be benefiting the Liberals.
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it's clear that this is probably not fully representative of the country.
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We over-polled too many people from a public sector background.
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Stuff like that could cause something to be an over-poll or an outlier poll.
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You know, like, if you polled too many rural people,
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you could make the Conservatives look like they're doing way better than they actually are.
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Oftentimes, it happens in reverse, where it's urban voters that are over-polled
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and rural voters don't pick up the phone as much.
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which means that you'll have these massive misses in, like,
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where all of the voters that you called were pretty much urban voters.
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they're the person who's a schoolteacher in a small town,
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which isn't representative of all the farmers in the region.
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But I want to take you guys through these different regions,
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we actually have the Liberals winning that province with 41% of the vote,
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And I guess I can also tack the Greens onto British Columbia,
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because, hey, it's B.C. where Elizabeth May is,
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Now, if the Conservatives are doing well in a poll,
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that's the province you are going to see the Conservatives leading.
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Now, remember that in the last federal election,
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and the Conservatives had like 43.5% or something like that.
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And this is a really bad sign for the Liberals,
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who need to absolutely run the score up in this province.
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So they're down 5 points since Election Day at 44%.
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and this has kind of become a trend with Polyev's Conservatives,
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They're just at 43 exactly where they were on election night.
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And then we have the NDP having clawed back a few percentage points,
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this is another province where the Liberals got like 52% on election night,
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They have fallen 7 points since election night,
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only like three or four or something like that,
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The Greens, who used to have a seat a couple of elections ago
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because, again, Ontario is the area where the Liberals 44% here.
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That is pretty much all concentrated in Toronto and the GTA.
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that are supply management ridings they hold on to.
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Sure, they still grab up some of the ridings in Hamilton.
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But the problem is when the election is getting this close in Ontario,
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that 44% is invested in winning a very specific grouping of seats,
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where the Conservatives 43% tends to be more thinly spread out in such a way
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where they pick up way more seats than the Liberals.
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the Liberals will still win more seats than the Conservatives.
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this is getting to an election result where the Liberals,
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I think there's like 24 seats or something like that in Atlantic Canada,
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But this is where the Liberals are maybe only winning five more seats
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The Liberals need to basically sweep Atlantic Canada
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but they need to be winning two-thirds of the seats in Ontario.
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that's not going to be the blood bag that they think it is.
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you know, the gains that they make in a province like that wiped out.
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And now they're having to rely on these other provinces
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The brightest point for the Liberals is British Columbia,
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that they only won by a few points over the Conservatives last time.
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And they actually may have increased their margin here.
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The Liberals are doing better in British Columbia
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where the Conservatives should be doing better,
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and we're going to come back with the age brackets.
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That's really going to reveal kind of what happened here.
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A lot of the Conservative strengths have been muted in this poll.
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they're still doing far better than you would ever expect.
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that looks like it should be benefiting the Liberals more.
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because the 18 to 29 result is kind of weird to me.
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And this is where, again, I'm getting indications it's an outlier,
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but an outlier that should be benefiting the Liberals.
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and you're watching this video, it's not your fault.
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It's some people in gated communities in the GTA
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who think the Liberals are the best thing since sliced bread,
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Although this is an over-poll for the Liberals.
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And the fact that Atlantic Canada was this close
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because obviously the Maritimes is the oldest region in Canada on average.
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And we'll even include the Bloc Québécois here,
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That's also why the Liberals have to be careful in Quebec
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the demographic strength that the Liberals have in Quebec is muted,
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because older voters tend to vote Bloc Québécois disproportionately.
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And because younger voters are moving Conservative,
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or it's a demographic they're actually not that good with overall
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But now we go down to 45% to 59%, the Gen X voters,
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Conservatives are leading here by 4 points over the Liberals,
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You'll notice the NDP goes up as the demos get younger,
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Then going to 30% to 44%, primarily, mostly Millennials,
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we have the Conservatives leading again with 41%,
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And then we have the NDP going up again at 9% with Millennials.
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Then once we go down to the super young voters,
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Oh, I forgot to put it in the Bloc Québécois here.
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And then we have the NDP at 14% with youth voters.
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I think that's actually going to hold once they get a new leader,
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because Jagme Singh and Warren himself out so much.
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What you're probably seeing here is an obvious controversial age gap
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between who votes Conservative and who votes Liberal.
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The problem with this is it's actually really overstated.
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the Conservatives are doing super well with the young voters
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and the Liberals are doing super well with the older voters.
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that young voters are actually not usually a Conservative demographic.
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Now, 60 and over voters tend to vote Liberal overall.
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The Liberal Party's always been the older left-wing party
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But this is a gap that I don't think is realistic.
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somehow older voters are voting for the Liberals even harder,
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That he has not done a good job on that promise.
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So I don't think that he's going to increase his lead
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because it was tighter in the actual federal election.
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I also actually don't think the Conservatives are doing this well either.
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it's not the demographic you want to be doing well with
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If you want to choose demographics to be doing well with,
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because they are the biggest portion of the population
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and they're the biggest portion of the population.
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typically you only see a lead with the Conservatives
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I think that they've overstated the Conservative lead
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They're only leading the Liberals with 30 to 44s by six points.
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the Conservatives were leading with one of these groups
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This is the number one demographic for Conservatives.
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That's where you're getting a lot of bulk of your vote.
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Millennials are going to turn out lower 60s or so.
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Actually, we're just going to slow it down here