00:11:09.320but what Sharon Korr here is just saying is just completely wrong about it.
00:11:12.560it is helping him because guess what it's getting the base re-engaged your base isn't just engaged
00:11:18.700all the time you don't just win a type of voter and 100 of them show up the type of grow people
00:11:24.320who would watch the joe rogan experience every day they probably don't vote at high rates maybe
00:11:30.68050 but you want those people showing up at 70 80 in order to win election this is why i always say
00:11:37.240about pro-life voters the party is always like well evangelical christians already vote for us
00:11:41.720Okay, but if you take a small pro-life stance, if you take a very rigid anti-made stance of saying we're not giving it to anyone with mental illnesses, you have to, it's very restrictive on how you can access it, or maybe even having some soft pro-life policy about saying the government's not going to pay for it or whatever.
00:12:00.320You would have evangelicals go from turning out at 75% rates to like 85% rates, and that's hundreds of votes extra in every riding.
00:12:08.280You always have to think about turnout rates.
00:12:09.960But the question for a lot of people is, which version of Pierre Polyev are you going to get?
00:12:13.940And I think he surprised a lot of people in the Joe Rogan interview by staying measured.
00:13:31.340How much of a risk, though, was Polyev facing going into something, knowing that the host could kind of take this any which way and certainly into things that don't have a lot of basis behind them?
00:13:43.280Yeah, I mean, it's always a risk going into a theater where you're not sure where the host is going to take the conversation, where the host has already in the past been accused of anti-LGBTQ comments, of racist comments.
00:13:56.220someone who trumpeted Trump's, his support for Donald Trump, who had Elon Musk on his show.
00:14:04.520But is Elon Musk that controversial of a figure that that it requires mention that, you know,
00:14:10.320that Elon Musk, the richest man on the planet on Joe Rogan's show? My goodness.
00:14:15.360I mean, the conversation was pretty tame. You could see that Pierre Polyev was nervous right
00:14:22.460off the get-go. And it's kind of odd, frankly, because most of us don't see Pierre Poiliev
00:14:27.500being nervous all that often. But the conversation, I don't think accomplished necessarily
00:14:33.240what Pierre Poiliev initially suggested Thursday morning he was setting out to do. Like, I don't
00:14:39.060think the listener came away thinking, ah, this is why we need free trade with Canada. I do agree
00:14:45.400with both of my colleagues, though, is that... Sorry, what podcast appearance, even on like
00:14:49.740an economic-based podcast would like actually accomplish that goal that goal is accomplished
00:14:55.520through like small change like small kind of comments over time over time reinforcing that
00:15:01.780Canada you know what U.S. are better together when we have free trade and we can team up against China
00:15:06.600and we can make sure that we kind of insulate the western world from you know eastern dictatorships
00:15:12.140and whatnot like what like you're oh he didn't achieve his goal was his goal like he was gonna
00:15:18.200to get America to change its mind on tariffs overnight because he was going on the Joe Rogan
00:15:23.140experience. That's the thing is like, again, it's changing the goalposts because Aliyah Raj is so
00:15:28.160left-wing, so pro-liberal that she cannot just give the victory to Polyev. Even I, I don't think
00:15:35.680that what Carney said during the Davos speech was good, but I can admit now it got him a lot of play
00:15:41.860in a backwards way, not good for the country, but it was good for him because he got to get into
00:15:46.520another fight with Donald Trump. It makes us look pathetic, but it did help him. But now Aliyah Raj
00:15:51.920does not want to just say it was good. Pierre Poiliev presented a very sympathetic face to
00:15:58.060Canada. He talked about, you know, the need for Canada and the U.S. to work together, that we have
00:16:03.260all these critical minerals that the Americans need as well, for example. He talked about our
00:16:06.920natural resources as an angle to help the United States on the affordability issue. But mostly it
00:16:12.180was a conversation where Pierre Polyev came across looking very sympathetic. You know, this is a guy
00:16:18.760with 11 million average views on his podcast. It's nothing to sneeze at. For a core constituency of
00:16:25.820the Conservative Party, young men who are mostly the listeners of Joe Rogan, this obviously speaks
00:16:30.620to them. And today, you know, he had another speech to a foreign policy audience where he did
00:16:36.840make that case about partnership and allyship with Canada and tariff-free trade. And so I don't know
00:16:44.080if the political mission was accomplished with Joe Rogan, but I think his personal mission was
00:16:48.220accomplished with Joe Rogan. And I don't know what Pierre Polyev plans to do if he doesn't win
00:16:53.520the next election. And this certainly will help him in whatever endeavor he chooses to go in.
00:16:59.380What a nasty thing to say on the way of basically being like, oh, well, I guess this Polyev is now
00:17:04.400gonna become sort of podcast bro if he loses the next election again okay whatever but overall they
00:17:10.240have to really dance around criticism of the interview itself because it was well done overall
00:17:15.900here let's get to someone who cannot hold themselves back let's listen to and i have it a
00:17:21.180little bit into the video because it's a 13 minute long video i just want a little sample
00:17:25.100of the rachel gilmore take on it and just the whining naysaying against the interview nerve
00:17:32.440damage that caused him to endure chronic pain. But I guess it's too much to ask that Joe Rogan
00:17:36.940actually has an informed debate about an issue. Anyway, they then got on the topic of mental
00:17:41.720health. And as you can imagine, it sent them down an extremely weird rabbit hole. And yeah,
00:17:47.460after that initial pushback on the Fidel Castro thing, Polly didn't have a lot of fact check in
00:17:52.660in the chamber. First, Rogan said in the most US centric way that the maid industry will obviously
00:17:59.360want to grow and expand because they're going to want to profit the unfortunate thing is that any
00:18:04.560organization that gets formed wants to grow and you get financial incentives and then you hire
00:18:14.160more people and then it gets bigger and then what do you have to do well you have to keep doing what
00:18:18.400you're doing exactly what are you doing you're killing people seemingly forgetting that uh we
00:18:22.800actually have health care here in canada and rogan also laura doesn't know anything about anything
00:18:28.400Even in a public health care system, there is a financial incentive to grow specific types of care because it benefits those people who are financially attached to that being a big part of the services of Canada's health care system.
00:18:46.420if you are taking in patients and you are seeing more patients for made you as a doctor are making
00:18:52.760more money or the health care system wanting to spend less on caring for people over time
00:18:58.080would like to basically end people's lives early because it takes a big cost off of the docket for
00:19:03.660them has she not thought this through at all she genuinely lives in a world where it's public
00:19:08.460health care it's all free how how could there be a profit incentive when it's all free it's not
00:19:13.720free governments have budgets if you have a department you want your department to be as big
00:19:18.680as possible because that means your salary is going to be higher because you have more authority
00:19:23.000over more people my goodness rachel suggested that fitness is better than antidepressants
00:19:29.400the exercise thing it's not just give them you know control of their life it makes them happier
00:19:34.600it's it's it showed there's been studies that show it's much more effective than antidepressants
00:19:39.480Absolutely. Well, first of all, there's the physiological side, which affects the brain,
00:19:44.180but it's also the sensation of discomfort that you push through.
00:19:48.400It can be equally helpful in some instances.
00:19:52.180Yeah, no, it is better. Do you think that it's healthy that we live in a society
00:19:56.600where large portions of people are on antidepressants? What do you think people
00:20:00.860need antidepressants a hundred years ago? They didn't. In fact, people got more exercise back
00:20:05.300then and were probably happier their point is making is saying that you shouldn't stay cooped
00:20:09.720up at home feeling depressed and medicating yourself because of it you should get out there
00:20:14.380accomplish something have camaraderie with other people be able to get all that kind of stress and
00:20:18.800anxiety out by like lifting weights and running and all that how is she disagreeing with this
00:20:23.520which is awesome but according to dr michael craig miller assistant professor of psychiatry
00:20:28.540at harvard medical school exercise alone isn't enough for someone with severe depression anyway
00:20:33.380Why are we talking about severe depression? If you are chemically depressed, there's just some imbalance in your brain and you just cannot stop falling into depression. Is anyone slagging that person for not going on a jog and instead taking antidepressants? No. Although they should probably exercise too, as her own source effectively alluded to, that, you know, it's not the only thing you should be doing for some people with severe cases. Like, okay, so what's your point, Rachel?
00:20:58.300As the conversation continues, we get a classic dangerous Polyev rant against experts.
00:21:04.380I talk to farmers or factory workers, electricians.
00:21:10.040I find they know just as much or more than the so-called experts I encounter on Parliament Hill.
00:21:15.980It was the common people who don't study this stuff for a living, who don't read endless reports and studies, who could just figure out that if there's money pouring into the economy that's not matched by goods and services, it's going to bid up the cost of everything.
00:21:30.120So that's my experience and my ideology is the common guy knows how to make his own decisions.
00:22:05.760No, the thing is that Kalev doesn't like the experts who have been provably wrong about the economy, about crime, about drugs, about foreign policy for decades now.
00:22:21.640We have some great examples all over the province or all over the three, all over the provinces of industries that are crashing under the direction of experts.
00:22:32.280Have you seen the logging industry in British Columbia?
00:22:35.760experts are in charge of telling people how much the allowable cut is every year, how much you're
00:22:41.680actually allowed to cut down, what you can cut down, what you can't cut down. And it has been
00:22:45.720driving the industry into the floor because it turns out government experts and centralized
00:22:50.880planners are not very good at this. That's his point. His point is not that you don't need a
00:22:57.180heart surgeon to do heart surgery. His point is that you don't need a medical bureaucrat
00:23:01.820interfering with you trying to be able to access medical services from that heart surgeon but
00:23:08.540what do you expect somebody like like like uh rachel gilmore by the way i even checked laura
00:23:15.280babcock has stayed away from this interview entirely she hasn't made a comment about it i
00:23:19.780scrolled through her timeline she has not said a word because it's almost like she can't really
00:23:25.000criticize it there's no angle here for her to criticize it and if she does come out she'll
00:23:29.700probably just settle back on just screaming about how joe rogan is controversial and this is maple
00:23:35.040mega fascism blah blah blah poly of his hitler or whatever and that's it they don't have an angle
00:23:40.780of attack here which is good for poly of it's somewhat controversial that he went on the show
00:23:46.420which gets a lot of attention on it but then he delivers a very you know straightforward and good
00:23:51.160performance doesn't mean it's my favorite performance doesn't mean he didn't say things
00:23:54.760or he should have said things I think he should have said. But overall, you can't really say that
00:24:00.680there was any negatives attached to this. It was a big positive, pretty much no negatives. And so
00:24:05.320he should probably continue with the strategy, appear on more podcasts, especially within Canada.
00:24:10.840There's a lot of podcasts that he hasn't appeared on in Canada, I think would be a great idea,
00:24:15.160like JJ McCullough's show. He has a million subscribers. He's based in Vancouver. And I
00:24:20.060know the party actually skipped doing his podcast in the last federal election because they thought
00:24:24.660that literally JJ's opinions on Quebec would be too controversial. It's like, come on, guys. You're
00:24:31.140not winning the next federal election through Quebec. You're just going to win it by getting
00:24:35.620people out in Ontario, British Columbia, and the Maritimes. Those are the three main provinces that
00:24:42.300you need to be focusing on, or the three regions you need to be focusing on. Just do that. Anyways,
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