The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - May 08, 2025


Singh's NDP got FEWER votes than Quebec Separatist BQ!


Episode Stats

Length

14 minutes

Words per Minute

176.95207

Word Count

2,551

Sentence Count

126

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

Wyatt Claypool talks about the embarrassing result for the federal NDP in the election, and what it means for the rest of the major parties in Canada's election system. He also talks about why the party needs a new leader, and why Jagmeet Singh is the worst.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. I think we all assumed it couldn't get any more embarrassing
00:00:06.220 for the federal NDP than it was on election night on April 28th. As a quick recap, the NDP had their
00:00:14.100 leader Jagmeet Singh come in a distant third place in his home riding a Burnaby Centre. He then
00:00:19.480 shortly resigned after that because of course he had to at that point. And the party fell from
00:00:24.700 around 18.5% of the vote in 2021 to just getting about 6.7%. But it didn't seem all that bad. At
00:00:33.240 least they still came third place in terms of the popular vote. Not in seats, but in terms of the
00:00:38.720 popular vote, they came third. Well, as Elections Canada has been consolidating results and counting
00:00:45.280 special ballots, they have fallen into fourth place in terms of the popular vote. Chase Zaba has put
00:00:52.800 this into a nice format right here, and it shows that now the Liberals have around 8.5 million votes,
00:00:59.940 Conservatives 8.1 million. Bloc has 1,236,000, and the NDP has 1,234,000. Now, maybe if you don't
00:01:12.260 understand Canadian politics, you don't know why this is so embarrassing, but a little bit of an
00:01:18.480 overview, if you don't know yet. The Bloc Québécois, a Quebec separatist party, only runs in Quebec.
00:01:27.380 The New Democrats ran in every single riding minus one. In fact, both the Conservatives and the
00:01:34.380 Liberals also had missed a single riding for getting a candidate in, so they all were running basically
00:01:40.580 full slates minus one. And the NDP, having a name on effectively every single ballot across the
00:01:47.240 country, brought in fewer votes than the Bloc. That should be impossible. But they made it happen
00:01:57.320 because they're a party that stopped representing anything. I am amazed by the fact that they even
00:02:03.060 ran Jagmeet Singh a third time. Even in his leadership review, it should have been obvious this
00:02:08.560 isn't the right guy. In October of 2023, he only received 81% of the vote in a leadership confidence
00:02:16.420 vote. That is not very good in what is a very collectivistic party. The thing with the Conservatives
00:02:23.540 is there's a lot of factions to the Conservative Party, both the Federal Conservative Party as well
00:02:28.220 as a different Provincial Conservative Party. You have your Social Conservatives, you have your
00:02:32.240 Fiscal Libertarians, you have your Red Tories, and then you have people who joined the party because of
00:02:37.980 niche pet issues that matter to them, whether it's the gun people, whether it's people who are there
00:02:43.860 for like farming issues, or people there because of something to do with, you know, oil and gas, or
00:02:50.620 like, what is it, fishing, fisheries. There's a lot of people in Newfoundland who really care about those,
00:02:56.220 and that's why they're actually part of the Conservative Party. The thing is, the NDP is just a
00:02:59.920 progressive trade unionist party. There's really not that much diversity. There is like the private
00:03:05.980 union side, and there is the public union side, and then I guess there's like the Hamas activist side,
00:03:11.540 but everything is far more homogenous in the NDP. Getting only 18% support in a party where there's a
00:03:18.460 lot of pressure to just be in favor of whatever HQ says is absolutely embarrassing. Again, Conservatives
00:03:24.780 tend to be used to rebelling against their leaders once they don't like the direction, and in fact, in 2019,
00:03:30.520 they got rid of Andrew Scheer, or I guess the year after, they got rid of Andrew Scheer, and then
00:03:36.040 in 2021, they quickly got rid of Aaron O'Toole because both of those leaders failed. Even Stephen
00:03:41.820 Harper stepped down after 2015, despite the fact that he had won in the past. Well, it's because
00:03:46.460 Conservatives tend to require more of their leaders than simply doing a little bit better than last
00:03:51.700 time. It looks like Pierre Polyev is going to stay on because you could say that it really wasn't his
00:03:56.720 fault that the Conservative Party lost. Yes, there's mitigating circumstance in the election, there's
00:04:01.480 Donald Trump, there's the fact that Trudeau stepped down, but the main issue for the Conservatives is that
00:04:05.780 there are very incompetent people like Jenny Burns at the top of HQ who were telling candidates to do all
00:04:11.960 the wrong things and were running very poor messaging. Polyev was a net positive, many people in HQ were
00:04:17.380 net negative, so I do hope that they get replaced, but somehow Jagmeet got to go three times, and now his
00:04:24.860 party gets fewer votes running in 342 ridings than the Bloc got running in 79 ridings. The per capita
00:04:36.300 metrics on this are utterly abysmal. Like, the Bloc mostly held on to all of its votes, minus 65,000.
00:04:43.740 The NDP lost 1,800,001 votes. They've lost, they only got 40% of the votes that they got last time.
00:04:54.240 I know they went from 18.5% of the share just to 6.7. They got a few, their percentage of raw vote is
00:05:01.620 a little bit better because, of course, turnout was better, and naturally some people turned out for
00:05:05.960 the NDP in that higher turnout, but for the most part, the NDP vote went to other parties. And now
00:05:11.820 in a second here, I want to show some stuff that's happened to the NDP since then. So now they have
00:05:17.820 chosen a new interim leader from their caucus, and that would be Don Davies from, I believe,
00:05:25.560 Vancouver Kingsway. Very longtime NDP MP. He's an old lawyer who used to represent Teamster unions.
00:05:34.200 If anything, he's actually kind of the guy you'd assume the NDP would be running with. Not a
00:05:38.540 particularly inspiring figure. You know, not exactly Jack Layton, probably not even Tom Mulcair,
00:05:44.800 but better than hyper-progressive and pre-ning Jagmeet Singh, who really doesn't represent the
00:05:50.260 type of voters that the party's always done very well with. The party used to do really well
00:05:55.400 in places like Hamilton. They would win a lot of these working class ridings, especially when
00:06:00.500 Jack Layton was around in 2011, and they held on to most of them in 2015. But now with Jagmeet Singh,
00:06:08.080 it was like the party only appealed to people in progressive college towns, places where there
00:06:12.700 was a lot of public sector workers, and that's kind of it. But even then, the liberals in this
00:06:18.360 election had a better pull on the public sector unions, and the conservative had a better pull on
00:06:23.800 the private sector unions. That's why the conservatives absolutely killed it in places like Windsor
00:06:28.820 and places like Kitchener, South Hesper, those areas, they did really well where there was sort
00:06:36.580 of working class types of people. But the funniest thing is, after they picked Don Davies, we had one
00:06:43.280 of their other surviving MPs, by the way, there's only seven of them, who said to this post from Tom
00:06:50.400 Parkins saying, Don Davies is new NDP interim leader, formerly a labor movement lawyer with the
00:06:55.480 teamsters, now the MP for Vancouver Kingsway. Leah Proud Lakota, whose name is Leah Gazin, she, her,
00:07:02.720 says, great finding out through the news, go quote team NDP. I don't know why she's upset. Leah Gazin,
00:07:11.340 the MP for Winnipeg Center, she signed up for this. She signed up for the top-down party,
00:07:17.620 the top-down collectivist party. Why does she get to dictate to them? She's enjoyed the way the NDP's
00:07:23.400 operated for years at this point, apparently. And if she hasn't, well, it's kind of her fault for not
00:07:28.680 speaking up. Leah Gazin, I made the joke a couple days ago, she must just be upset that they didn't
00:07:33.940 pick Yahya Sinwar as the new leader of the party, because so many of the NDP MPs, including Leah Gazin
00:07:41.660 and some of the other surviving NDP MPs like Heather McPherson, are more concerned with Gaza and
00:07:49.240 Palestine than they are with their own constituencies. It was crazy how often you'd see
00:07:54.280 these people wearing keffias in Parliament, completely disconnected from the day-to-day
00:07:58.660 issues of Canadians. Didn't care about the drug crisis, didn't care about the cost of living
00:08:02.680 crisis. If they did, it was insofar as that it gave them an excuse to try and spend more money on
00:08:08.380 random programs rather than just giving people their own money back. Now, I just want to quickly
00:08:13.280 highlight some other things regarding stuff that's happened. One, I got to read this post
00:08:18.300 from Jagmeet Singh that I actually didn't see back during the election. I love how he said this.
00:08:24.460 It's been an honor of my life to lead the NDP and to represent the people of Burnaby Central.
00:08:30.020 Congratulations to Prime Minister Carney and to all those leaders on a hard-fought campaign.
00:08:35.060 I know this night is disappointing for new Democrats. He says this despite the fact that days
00:08:40.640 before the election, he says he's perfectly fine gutting the NDP so that the liberals can beat the
00:08:45.900 conservatives. So why is he acting like this is a disappointment? This was effectively planned,
00:08:51.880 at least by his own statements. It sounds like it was planned. And the idea that he was representing
00:08:56.680 Burnaby Center is absolutely insane. There is nothing about the NDP that has been particularly
00:09:01.680 grassroots about their campaigning. There's a reason why they had their base gutted by other parties
00:09:07.500 because their people don't really represent the areas that they live in. They're activists and
00:09:12.020 they represent activists before they represent anyone on a local level. That is what the liberals
00:09:17.100 and the conservatives do well. Now, I am not a liberal. I am a conservative. So obviously I like
00:09:21.580 the conservatives better. But the liberal party and the conservative party has always tried to
00:09:26.040 emphasize having its MPs be local champions. I think that's gone down in recent years, which is a big
00:09:33.260 black mark on both parties that it seems like people tend to represent party leadership than
00:09:38.040 their own constituencies. But the NDP have always just been so in tune with the activist class that
00:09:43.760 they have never actually ever considered whether or not somebody likes things that they're voting for
00:09:49.200 or not in their local areas. They just happen to get elected because there are heavy union presidents
00:09:53.200 in the area to help their campaigns. Not that a lot of people actually like them.
00:09:57.120 But I got to say, the new NDP leader, as much as he's probably an improvement on Jagmeet Singh,
00:10:04.360 is not falling that far from the tree here. So Don Davies, two days ago, says,
00:10:09.280 on May 5th, we joined together to focus on the ongoing crisis of missing and murdered indigenous women,
00:10:14.460 girls, 2SLGBTQI plus people. Today we remember, we mourn, we commit to justice, safety, and support.
00:10:21.040 Now, I have no problem with this tweet, other than the whole point of the day is missing and murdered
00:10:26.820 women and indigenous women and girls. And then he just randomly just throws in 2SLGBTQ because they
00:10:33.140 have to, because it's the NDP and you have to say it, even though it's actually kind of spitting on
00:10:38.760 those who you're trying to represent, because you're just randomly jamming in a different identity
00:10:43.880 politics issue into this whole thing. It's too, it's just dumb. Anyways, one other thing I want to show
00:10:51.920 you here, because I think it is just an interesting stat, is how votes have shifted around Canada
00:10:57.920 since the 2021 election. Now, there are very few places in Canada that votes have decreased for the
00:11:06.140 Liberals since the last election, naturally since the Liberal Party or the NDP completely collapsed.
00:11:12.980 This is all effectively Jagmeet Singh is doing on a macro level. So right here, this is where I'm going
00:11:19.680 to be breaking this down in a future video, the kind of bright spots for the Conservatives. But in
00:11:24.780 general, you can see the map is very red with the Liberals being up in the vote. But what you'll
00:11:30.360 notice is places around Toronto and around Montreal, as well as in the Maritimes and Upper Quebec,
00:11:37.940 have actually gotten more Conservative, which is actually good to see. Or at least they've become
00:11:43.440 less Liberal, but they've naturally only, they've only become more Conservative because that's the only
00:11:48.300 other party gaining votes here. This is actually a pretty good setup for the Conservatives. What
00:11:54.580 you'll notice is that the places, like Toronto right here, the places where the Liberals have
00:11:59.700 gained the most vote is these blood red little areas where the Liberals were already winning.
00:12:06.720 The Conservatives, or the places that become less Liberal, are places that the Liberals used to win by
00:12:11.080 not that many votes. Some of these places did go towards the Conservatives, like the Vons,
00:12:15.460 like Richmond Hill, like Markham, those sorts of places. And there are some places that are on the
00:12:21.300 verge of flipping, or places where the Liberals only gained a few votes because the NDP completely
00:12:26.780 collapsed. The Liberals definitely gained a lot in this election, but when I do my breakdown in the
00:12:33.260 future, I'm going to explain how they're not in a great position in terms of future elections. It's not
00:12:38.360 like they're now going to win the next two elections because they did so well. Most of the
00:12:42.540 ridings that the Liberals picked up, it was a riding where the Conservatives won it by five points last
00:12:47.420 time, and now the Liberals won it by, you know, four to seven points. It's a swing. It's more than
00:12:53.140 you would like to see, but it's not quite like the Conservative victories in certain places like
00:12:57.980 Windsor West, where the Conservatives used to only get 18% of the vote there. They were not in the
00:13:03.460 conversation to even win it. They hadn't actually won it since the 30s or the 50s, but they ended up
00:13:09.520 having a massive swing of 45 points send them into office. So in a future video, whether it's
00:13:16.320 tomorrow or the next day, I'm going to be doing a breakdown of a few Conservative flip ridings and
00:13:22.080 Liberal flip ridings and demonstrate the difference in where the Liberals are doing well, where the
00:13:27.760 Conservatives are doing well, and who's likely to have their results hold up better. Because in my
00:13:32.420 opinion, it looks like the Conservatives are going to be able to hold on to the territory they have better
00:13:36.740 than the Liberals can. Naturally, that's maybe like more of an obvious thing, because the Conservatives
00:13:43.860 have won fewer ridings. And naturally, some of those are going to be stronger, the proportion of
00:13:47.960 safe ridings. But even the new pickups that the Conservatives have are far more likely to stay
00:13:52.660 Conservative than some of the pickups the Liberals got, like in Peterborough, like in South Surrey,
00:13:57.440 White Rock, like in Carleton, like in places like, I think it's Cumberland, Colchester. Those are places
00:14:05.300 where the Conservatives had won it by a wide margin previously, and now the Liberals have won it by
00:14:10.100 a few points. Something that can easily flip back if the Liberal government's performance is not top
00:14:15.060 notch. So anyways, that's it for me today, guys. Make sure to like the video, subscribe to the channel,
00:14:20.220 leave a comment, do all that fantastic stuff, and I will see you guys next time.