The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - January 16, 2025


The Carney vs Freeland Liberal civil war has begun - Trudeau wants his puppet in


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Wyatt Claypool breaks down who he thinks is going to win the Liberal Party Leadership race and why he thinks it's going to be a close race between Mark Carney and Chrystia Freeland. He also talks about how the party is getting more and more militant in their support for either of them.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. As a conservative, I am actually watching the Liberal Party leadership
00:00:07.060 race with a lot of interest right now. It's not because anyone interesting is running for
00:00:12.380 the leadership, many of these candidates could compete for the world's most boring person,
00:00:17.020 and it's not because it's going to have a major impact on Canadian politics. This is all an
00:00:22.620 exercise in futility. It doesn't matter who the Liberals pick, they're basically volunteering to
00:00:27.960 see who wants to be beaten by Pierre Polyev later this year, with the consolation prize that they
00:00:33.620 technically get to be Prime Minister for a few weeks. The big reason to watch the Liberal Party 0.64
00:00:39.000 leadership race is for the Liberal on Liberal violence, because with the two most boring
00:00:45.160 frontrunners on the planet, Mark Carney and Chrystia Freeland, the Liberals might actually
00:00:50.540 fall into civil war over which one of these figureheads is going to lead the party for
00:00:56.020 approximately three weeks. I don't get it, but it's hilarious to watch. Anyways, I want to break
00:01:02.800 down how people are currently endorsing Mark Carney and Chrystia Freeland and what my theories are
00:01:08.720 onto how we are going to see this race play out, but before I get into that, I want to remind you guys
00:01:14.140 make sure to like this video, leave a comment on who you think is going to win the leadership race,
00:01:19.600 and if you're not yet a subscriber, please hit that subscribe button. I am trying to get to
00:01:24.520 100,000 subscribers by mid-December of this year, or I owe all my friends dinner. So either subscribe
00:01:33.360 so I don't owe my friends dinner, or become my friend so then I might have to buy you dinner.
00:01:39.620 Anyways, let's get into this. It's again so sad with candidates this boring, candidates this beige,
00:01:47.660 with no ideas different from Justin Trudeau, that the party is actually getting pretty militant
00:01:53.940 over who the people are endorsing. So here's a great post from Marty up north. He says,
00:02:01.500 as of the current date, here is the breakdown of Liberal MPs who have publicly announced their
00:02:06.680 support for either Chrystia Freeland or Mark Carney in the context of the Liberal Party leadership race.
00:02:12.660 So right now, it's still pretty sparse on people who have sent out endorsements, but the fact that
00:02:18.900 it's so even tells me that it's probably going to be a tight race between these two. So right now,
00:02:25.640 Chrystia Freeland has gotten the endorsement of Ben Carr. Randy Boissoneau, wow, what a great
00:02:32.440 endorsement that is. I guess it kind of is a twofer because you get both Randy Boissoneau,
00:02:37.860 as well as the other Randy that supposedly did all the corrupt things at Global Health Imports
00:02:44.140 that Randy Boissoneau totally had nothing to do, even though he's the only Randy that worked there.
00:02:49.480 And then she also has Mark Holland from Ontario. I'm not sure which endorsement's worse,
00:02:55.080 Randy Boissoneau or Mark Holland, but Chrystia Freeland probably just cares about the numbers. 0.65
00:03:00.080 She has three, and Mark Carney also has three. He has Porch Pirate George Chahal from Alberta,
00:03:07.460 the riding of Calgary Skyview. He has Patrick Wheeler, and he has Francesco Sorbera from Ontario.
00:03:16.720 I have never heard of that man before. Neither have I heard of Patrick Wheeler. It really demonstrates
00:03:22.180 that the Liberal Party is just Justin Trudeau. All these Liberal MPs I've never heard of because
00:03:27.700 they've never done anything on their own. They just execute whatever Trudeau wants, and probably
00:03:32.920 a bunch of them are backbenchers on top of that. This is hilarious. The idea that there's actually
00:03:40.580 going to be a fight between Mark Carney and Freeland, not over policy. They literally agree on
00:03:46.520 everything, but just on loyalty to Trudeau. And let's be clear, both of them were loyalists basically
00:03:53.560 to the very end. Mark Carney was a loyalist to the end, and Freeland just sideswiped Trudeau upon
00:04:00.620 resigning as finance minister and deputy prime minister because he tried to throw her under the
00:04:05.880 bus, which she should have seen coming. She helped feed the body of Bill Morneau under the bus when she
00:04:13.100 was taking his finance minister job. It's really funny to see. But I want to lay out how I think this
00:04:19.480 race is going to go and what the strategy from the two camps are. So actually early yesterday,
00:04:25.540 there were a lot of rumors, I believe, whatever his name is, something Iveson at the National Post
00:04:30.720 was kind of rumor mongering about the idea that this might just be a coronation of Mark Carney and
00:04:37.660 Christia Freeland might in fact drop out. Christia Freeland then posted the weirdest thing I've ever
00:04:43.600 seen in my life. This photo of her drinking tea at a table and taking calls from phones that are
00:04:50.260 obviously not even on to prove that no, I am actually in the race and I'm speaking to Liberal Party
00:04:56.000 members right this second. I will show you that photo because it is so uncanny, eyes need to glaze over
00:05:02.600 it just so that you know I'm not making this up. She says, fifth cup of tea and the calls aren't stopping.
00:05:08.660 Grateful for the chance to hear from you and listen to your ideas, fellow liberals. I'll have much more
00:05:13.440 to say very soon. And again, you can see that a consultant put this photo together because they're like
00:05:18.280 she's taking a lot of calls. So have four phones sitting on the table and a laptop. Also, she's drank a lot
00:05:25.140 of tea. Should she probably just keep using the same cup like a sane person? No. Have two empty cups in
00:05:31.620 front of her to symbolize the tea drinking that has gone on. But she posted this to basically diffuse all the
00:05:39.060 rumors that she was going to drop out and just let Carney have it. Because let's be clear, the also
00:05:44.240 rands in the race right now are not going to be able to beat Mark Carney, even though Mark Carney
00:05:49.760 basically is not even a real boy. He is just some product that the Liberal Party has created to take
00:05:55.820 over for Justin Trudeau. But the reason why people thought and I don't give I'm not trying to like, you
00:06:02.720 know, go after Iveson here for being wrong about something. But it was based on the idea that because
00:06:08.480 everyone kind of knows that Justin Trudeau and Team Trudeau in general is backing Carney, that
00:06:15.200 that meant he was probably just going to be the winner by default. The problem is, is that half the
00:06:20.720 Liberal Party really hates Justin Trudeau. And they see Freeland as their hero because she stood up to
00:06:26.640 him at the end, even though it was way too late. But I don't think the Liberal Party really has anyone else
00:06:32.500 running for the leadership who's ever stood up to Trudeau. So she is now the anti-establishment
00:06:38.280 hero, even though she is literally the definition of the establishment, as is also Mark Carney. Again,
00:06:44.360 this race is so confusing. I'm going to constantly say this person is doing this, and this person is
00:06:50.040 doing that. But they're both also kind of doing the other person's thing at the same time. So I think
00:06:57.040 what Christy Freeland is doing here, because Mark Carney has obviously not been able to intimidate
00:07:01.600 Christy Freeland out of this race. Carney is basically going to have to stick to the tactic of trying to
00:07:06.900 gather a lot of endorsements, although he's splitting them with Freeland at this point, and then have the
00:07:12.020 power of the office of the Prime Minister backing him up, giving him this kind of aura of like
00:07:18.740 importance to get people behind him. But the problem with this is that again, not only do people dislike
00:07:25.700 Trudeau, but at the end of the day, Carney doesn't have a seat. He's actually a very difficult person to back,
00:07:32.580 because you don't even know what a Mark Carney win really means. By the way, Trudeau, who now said he's not
00:07:39.900 even going to run in the next federal election, is probably just using Carney as a meat puppet to guarantee the
00:07:45.820 liberals lose, so that maybe he can come back and lead the party again in eight years. Trudeau does not want to be
00:07:51.580 around for the loss, because he then gets associated with the loss. Obviously, this federal election loss is pretty much
00:07:58.480 all on him, but he thinks that if he goes on vacation to Hawaii or something like that while the liberals are
00:08:04.640 getting clobbered, then it had nothing to do with him. Okay, but now let's get to Chrystia Freeland, because I think
00:08:11.420 this, what I'm about to present to you is probably her strategy, or at least I'm making a prediction, and I think
00:08:17.740 it's an interesting strategy. So based on the also-ran candidates, who usually are completely worthless, who cares about
00:08:25.480 them, they're going to have no impact. They will have an impact in this race, because I think it's going to be a ranked
00:08:31.360 ballot, although those rules aren't fully out yet. But I think the purpose of the also-ran candidates is to funnel votes to
00:08:38.480 Chrystia Freeland. Why else would Chandra Aria be in this race? The man doesn't speak French, and I don't think he really
00:08:45.740 speaks much English at all either. I would be shocked if the man doesn't pre-script every interview he does, because he
00:08:53.700 obviously doesn't really speak good English yet. He's very clunky, uses the wrong word a lot of the time.
00:08:59.940 He is there to get Freeland the Hindu vote, which is a very untapped vote in Canada, honestly, because usually 0.98
00:09:06.100 a South Asian politician is Sikh, and the Sikh community is very used to being politically organized
00:09:12.720 to vote for certain candidates. The Hindu community is more shotgunned around the country, so Chandra Aria's 1.00
00:09:18.300 purpose is probably to sign up as many Hindu Canadians as Liberal Party members as possible, and then
00:09:24.360 basically tell them to go and vote for Freeland, whether he makes it into the race officially or not,
00:09:29.060 because even if he doesn't make it into the race officially, well, those 30,000 people might have
00:09:33.840 still signed up anyways, and he can just say, go vote for Chrystia. And this is the same thing with
00:09:39.320 Karina Gould, this is the same thing with Frank Bayliss, same thing with Jeremy Batsy, or Jamie Batsy.
00:09:45.980 A bunch of people who have specific appeals in very specific regions or communities around Canada,
00:09:53.600 who then can either drop out of the race and endorse Freeland, or go the distance, but basically
00:09:58.900 organize for their people to vote Chrystia Freeland number two on the ballot. So Chandra gets Freeland,
00:10:06.500 an ethnic community bloc to come and vote for her. Karina Gould kind of has that middle class 1.00
00:10:12.740 outside of Toronto type appeal, or I think she might be a Toronto MP. Honestly, fact check me on 0.53
00:10:19.300 that, I don't remember. Oh no, she's from Burlington. So she can help with southwestern Ontario organizing,
00:10:25.220 which is a very vote-rich area to go and mine, in terms of getting memberships. And then you have
00:10:30.940 Frank Bayliss, who is a former MP from the island of Montreal. And then we also have Jeremy Batsy,
00:10:37.480 who is from the First Nations community, and from the Maritimes. So that is what I think is basically
00:10:44.220 Chrystia Freeland's blood bag here, is that if she doesn't have enough support herself, she can rip all 1.00
00:10:49.500 these random also-ran candidates into her camp in order to overcome Mark Carney. And so Mark Carney
00:10:56.920 is kind of like Peter McKay of this race. He's the Daniel Smith of this race for a conservative
00:11:04.020 party and UCP example. He has momentum. Just look at all of the liberal cheerleaders on social media. 1.00
00:11:12.200 They're hyping up Mark Carney. Oh, he's so interesting. He's so suave. He's none of those
00:11:16.160 things, by the way. He is the guy to lead our party forward. Polyev's scared of him. But there's
00:11:22.320 enough people who are probably skeptical of Carney basically being a carbon copy of Trudeau with less
00:11:26.800 charisma, that more people might be voting for Freeland because they think it's like the new
00:11:31.180 direction of the party. And then by having all these other candidates get behind her, she might 0.99
00:11:36.260 be able to slow Carney's momentum enough. She edges them out on like a fourth or fifth ballot here. 1.00
00:11:42.460 So that's what I'm predicting here. Let me know what you guys think is going to happen.
00:11:48.100 There are some things I just want to pull up here before I end the video because it's wild the
00:11:55.760 sorts of things people are already posting to try and pretend like Mark Carney is at all an
00:12:00.280 interesting figure. Here is this guy, Fun Tom, who is a big liberal cheerleader online. And this
00:12:06.700 mirrors what people like Vicky Campbell and, you know, BK Belton right here are saying. He says,
00:12:12.000 Dear Mr. Polyev, I'm writing this letter to inform you, sir, that Mr. Mark Carney will be the Prime
00:12:18.580 Minister of Canada for the next four years. Hashtag Carney for Canada. And it says the next
00:12:24.240 Prime Minister with a fairly sinister looking photo of Mark Carney. I assume this is AI generated and
00:12:29.740 like a blacked out image of pure Polyev. I don't know who this is supposed to appeal to. But you can
00:12:35.700 see here, this is Mark, Mark Holland's endorsement letter of Christia Freeland he released. And then
00:12:41.760 we also had, there was also one release, of course, by Randy Boissoneau, which again is so funny. You
00:12:48.600 wonder if Christia Freeland was even mad at him for saying it. But the Randy part is actually interesting
00:12:53.400 because Mark Carney is announcing his campaign from Edmonton, the start of his campaign from
00:13:00.180 Edmonton. And the only liberal seat that he could potentially run in as an MP, which people assumed
00:13:05.980 was his plan, was Edmonton Center, Randy Boissoneau's riding. And so Randy not only endorsed Christia
00:13:13.160 Freeland, but he says, I'm also running for re-election to basically tell Mark Carney to pack
00:13:18.560 sand. So I'm wondering if Mark Carney then becomes the leader, if Randy Boissoneau is then kicked out of
00:13:24.900 that riding so Mark Carney can have it. Because where else is Mark going to run? The only
00:13:29.960 thing that he can add to the party is the idea that, hey guys, I'm a Western Canadian and I can
00:13:35.100 help expand the appeal of the party. The problem with that is he's so obviously a downtown metropolitan
00:13:41.100 elite. Christia Freeland is also from Alberta, but she's also an obvious Toronto metropolitan. 0.69
00:13:47.220 The one thing slightly more interesting about Carney is he's from the Northwest Territories, which
00:13:51.480 is unique. But still, who really cares? The man's heart is in Toronto. Frankly, his heart's probably
00:13:58.100 in Dubai. Anyways, so that's it for me today, guys. Drop your predictions in the comment section below.
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