The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - February 27, 2024


The Liberals declare war on free speech (Bill C-63)

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Justin Trudeau's new bill, Bill C-63, is a front to try and undermine free speech in Canada. In this episode, I break down exactly what the bill does and why it's a bad idea. I also talk about how the bill could have serious consequences.

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00:00:00.000 No doubt that you've all already heard of the new bill being put forward by Prime Minister
00:00:04.420 Justin Trudeau's Liberal government, known as the Online Harms Act, Bill C-63. Everyone knows
00:00:10.840 it's bad. It's a front to try and undermine free speech in Canada, but I'm going to break down
00:00:15.720 exactly how it's trying to undermine free speech. So to start us off, I just want to basically say
00:00:21.280 what the Liberal strategy is. It's to pack this bill full of good-sounding things that nobody
00:00:26.840 could disagree with, and then in part three of the bill, inserting their very vague definition of
00:00:32.080 what hate speech is and discriminatory language in order to basically make it so that in the future
00:00:36.760 they can make anything they don't like illegal to say. What they do is they pack it full at the front
00:00:42.140 by saying we're going to crack down on child abuse content online, calls for genocide, all this stuff
00:00:47.200 that is already illegal, and it wasn't just illegal in real life. It's always been illegal online as
00:00:53.340 well, but they're pretending that they're somehow toughening these laws up when they've done
00:00:57.760 nothing. They're just basically saying, well, you need to mandatorily report child abuse content
00:01:03.360 online, which I'm pretty sure was already the case. You could just walk by that and not consider it
00:01:08.640 something that needs to be reported. But they packed Bill C-63 full of this stuff, and then so by the
00:01:14.600 time you get to part three, you seem like you're already somewhat on board because look at all the
00:01:18.520 great things this bill does. And then part three also says, yeah, we can jail you for saying things
00:01:22.940 that we think are discriminatory. Legitimately, if you say something that leads to a vague case of
00:01:28.340 online hatred, then you could be arrested. You didn't say anything wrong, but you inspired someone
00:01:33.940 to say something wrong, and that wrong thing really isn't wrong. It's just wrong based on a vague
00:01:38.160 definition that the liberals have come up with on what defines hate speech. But before I get into the
00:01:43.780 part three's text of the bill that I find the most concerning, I first want to jump over to the
00:01:49.740 liberal, I think, justice minister, Arif Varani, presenting this bill, completely clownish justice
00:01:57.000 minister we have now. And he's very proud of this bill, but I'll let him explain what this is all
00:02:02.440 about. Online Harms Act does not do. It does not undermine freedom of speech. It enhances free
00:02:10.840 expression by empowering all people to safely participate in online debate.
00:02:16.820 Je tiens à préciser ce que le projet de loi 1663 ne fait pas. Il ne sait pas la liberté d'expression. Il renforce la liberté d'expression en permettant à toutes les personnes...
00:02:29.580 Well, I'm going to pause him there since he's speaking French now. But, like, the idea that
00:02:34.480 whenever the left pushes forward some restriction to your freedoms, no, this isn't actually restricting
00:02:39.700 your free speech freedoms. It's actually enhancing your free speech and expression freedoms in Canada,
00:02:45.460 because now you don't have to hear certain things that you don't like. Obviously, everyone is against
00:02:50.520 legally defined harassment. If people are calling you at all hours of the night on your phone,
00:02:55.880 if people are sending you death threats, if people are actively trying to, like, you know,
00:03:00.860 dox you, that's illegal. It's always been illegal. But the liberals are pretending that that stuff wasn't illegal so they can slip through 0.75
00:03:07.680 these sort of, like, vague definitions of what hate speech is so that they can say, well, you disagreed with the gender theory
00:03:13.960 ideology? Well, that's hate speech, so you've got to go to prison. Oh, also, you questioned gender theory?
00:03:19.640 Well, that's discriminatory language. You used discriminatory language while you were deposing us
00:03:24.720 on this, like, piece of legislation. That's hateful. You're going to lead to harm to people.
00:03:30.060 You're going to have to go to prison. So much of the liberals cracking down on our freedoms is always justified
00:03:35.740 under the guise that people will die, people will be harmed unless we do this, as if we've been in the middle
00:03:41.400 of a long-time crisis, and that they're finally having to pass this legislation to save people.
00:03:46.720 Nothing really bad has happened in our kind of current version of the internet, where people can
00:03:51.480 kind of do mostly what they want outside of obviously illegal things. Yet the liberals always
00:03:56.520 have these secret people that are vulnerable to these harms unless they pass legislation right now.
00:04:01.620 You have more power because I guess apparently the liberals are going to let you report people you
00:04:26.120 don't like, so you have the power to potentially have them hauled in front of a court and put into
00:04:30.020 prison. 63, this bill does not wade in to your private communications. Private communications are
00:04:36.000 exempted from this legislation. We know that there are powerful organizations and people who may line
00:04:42.400 up against this legislation. Because it's dumb. People with money and people with influence. My message 0.99
00:04:50.700 to these people and these organizations is very simple. It is now the time to work directly with us.
00:04:57.660 Profit cannot be prioritized over safety. Right now it is too easy for social media companies
00:05:05.640 to look the other way as hate and exploitation festers on their platforms. This bill will require
00:05:12.640 platforms to do their part and to do better to keep people safe from harm and exploitation,
00:05:18.640 especially our children. Failure to do so will have a price. Significant monetary penalties.
00:05:26.620 And this is where this bill is absolutely insane. Effectively what the liberals want is that they want
00:05:32.200 like auditors, ombudsmen being appointed to be able to look over the social media companies,
00:05:39.140 you know, back ends. They want to be able to see what's being posted. They want to hold them
00:05:43.280 accountable if anything bad has ever been posted. Effectively turning social media platforms into social
00:05:49.280 media publishers. That now the platforms are responsible for every single thing that you post,
00:05:54.660 as if you're an author for their website. You know what? If someone says something rude on the
00:05:59.800 internet, I don't think that should be Facebook or Twitter's fault. X, I guess. But that is not the
00:06:05.420 fault of a platform. If something illegal is posted, yes, the Facebook or X would have the responsibility
00:06:11.480 to take it down. But it has to be something actually illegal, not something vaguely rude that a judge is
00:06:17.660 for some reason going to rule as hate speech and put someone in prison for four years. But this is
00:06:21.620 effectively a way of trying to club the social media platforms into not allowing things to be posted
00:06:27.680 that go after, like, quote unquote, going after groups that are kind of protected liberal minorities.
00:06:35.200 And when I say that, I mean in the sense that the liberals are just going to define any criticism of
00:06:39.320 themselves, their agenda, as attacking a specific minority group. Ergo, it's hateful or discriminatory,
00:06:45.020 and the platforms need to take it down or be subject to a heavy fine. In this environment,
00:06:50.600 do you think Facebook's going to let any Canadians on their platform, any X is going to let anyone on 0.99
00:06:55.220 their platform from Canada, when the government is basically requiring them to spend hundreds of
00:07:00.700 thousands, if not millions of dollars to monitor everything Canadians do just in case it's going to
00:07:05.800 be subject to a criminal like charge? It's absolutely insane.
00:07:10.520 This legislation does not come out of a vacuum.
00:07:14.940 Yeah, I know. It does come out of the sucking stupidity of the liberal government. 1.00
00:07:19.400 It doesn't come out of nowhere. It comes from fascists in the government who don't like people 1.00
00:07:23.700 speaking freely.
00:07:24.660 All of us standing here today know that it is a result of years, literally years of hard work,
00:07:30.640 research and consultation with stakeholders, with experts, with international partners,
00:07:35.520 and average Canadians.
00:07:37.060 What international partners? Can people stop consulting international partners? We're in
00:07:42.080 Canada. If you're not consulting Canadians, you're doing something wrong.
00:07:46.180 We're concerned about the well-being of their families, their neighbours and their communities.
00:07:52.220 The message that all of those people have sent to us is loud and it is unequivocal. Doing nothing
00:07:58.260 is not an option. They are absolutely right.
00:08:03.340 That's such a pathetic way of talking about your legislation. We can't do, sit by and do nothing. 0.97
00:08:09.760 That's not an option. It actually is. Have you seen online platforms actually cause significant
00:08:16.720 harm in the past 10 years? Not really. Not really. Like there's some social harms. You know,
00:08:21.640 people are ruder to each other. You get some misinformation spreading on social media.
00:08:24.840 Can't help that. Used to happen in real life as well. Still does. The idea is that, well, you can't,
00:08:30.480 this is the only thing we can do. You can do other things. You can not do this actually.
00:08:34.680 But the Liberals' agenda is always predicated on the idea that it must be done or bad things will
00:08:40.480 happen. People will die. Blood is on your hands if you do nothing. And, you know, this RF guy is a 0.76
00:08:46.400 complete clown. I guess he never consulted anyone who knew what a block feature was. And I say this as 0.97
00:08:52.100 someone who gets death threats. I'm not like someone who's like only people only say nice
00:08:56.100 things about me on social media. People say pretty hateful things if not send death threats to me on
00:09:01.220 social media. And guess what? I've never felt the need to call the cops. Maybe that will happen
00:09:05.720 someday. That doesn't mean I want the social media platforms regulated so that everything people post
00:09:11.140 must be then cleared by them first. We join allies like the United Kingdom, France, Germany,
00:09:18.900 Australia, who have also legislated in this area. We have learned from their experiences.
00:09:23.960 If you learn from their experiences, you find out that the populations of those countries
00:09:28.200 find this to be ridiculously authoritarian. We have people getting arrested in these countries for
00:09:34.540 saying just like conservative things online. Well, you said something about, you know, pride flags being
00:09:40.680 flown during whatever month and that it was seemed very gratuitous and obnoxious to you. You said
00:09:46.080 that, you know, whatever about whatever group when it was just like a political opinion, people get
00:09:50.480 arrested for stuff like that in the United Kingdom. It's insane. You cannot tolerate anarchy on the
00:09:56.960 internet. The cost is too great. Can you say what the cost is? And if you just say one person once
00:10:02.900 committed suicide, I'm going to say that's not the reason that you do put in massive regulatory states
00:10:09.460 in place on social media. If someone dying from something required us to then legislate that thing
00:10:18.180 as hard as possible, there wouldn't be an aspect of your life that wasn't government managed and
00:10:23.680 regulated. The safety, the mental health, and even the lives of our kids and our most vulnerable are at
00:10:31.100 stake. I'm confident with the Online Harms Act in law, we can build safe online communities where our kids
00:10:38.520 can flourish, where illegal hate is contained, and where citizens... Illegal hate. And I'm going to
00:10:43.860 get to what he defines as legal, illegal hate, which is vague nonsense.
00:10:47.240 ...can fully engage in rigorous debate without fear of being targeted by threats, by violence,
00:10:54.420 or by hatred. This work is just beginning. It is a long path ahead, and I have no doubt there will be
00:11:00.640 challenges. But I believe, along with the people standing right behind me, that this cause is worth
00:11:06.520 it. Well, hopefully there's a lot of legal challenges from liberty organizations, from, you know,
00:11:11.700 free speech organizations. This bill is absolutely insane. I'm going to read you the part three of this,
00:11:17.480 which is really what they're trying to get across the finish line. It's, I think this part two, but they
00:11:23.580 say under this section C, I'm not putting it up on the screen. I don't feel the need to right now.
00:11:28.940 They said that it defines hatred for the purposes of the new offense and the hate propaganda offenses,
00:11:34.600 and increases the maximum sentence for hate propaganda offenses. And this is what it says
00:11:39.500 under part three of what it does. Part three amends the Canadian Human Rights Act to provide that it is
00:11:44.380 a discriminatory practice to communicate or cause it to be communicated hate speech by means of the
00:11:49.840 internet or any other means of telecommunications in a context which the hate speech is likely to
00:11:55.140 foment detestation or vilification of an individual group or individuals on the basis of a prohibited
00:12:02.420 ground of discrimination. It authorizes the Canadian Human Rights Commission to deal with complaints
00:12:08.160 alleging that discriminatory practices and authorizes the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal to inquire in such
00:12:14.760 complaints on other remedies. That's insane. It is, it is literally just detestation or vilification.
00:12:22.840 Once if someone's doing something bad, is it wrong for me to detest or vilify pedophiles? Am I allowed to
00:12:29.840 detest, you know, people who spread violent communist rhetoric? Am I allowed to detest them online? I think I
00:12:37.300 shouldn't be able to. And I don't think that feelings are something that the government should be trying
00:12:42.120 to determine that you, like, if you have it, like, if you have a negative feeling towards someone in a
00:12:47.240 high enough capacity that they can then haul you in front of the Human Rights Commission and then charge
00:12:52.120 you with an offense that could potentially put you in jail. That's insane. This should not be ever,
00:12:57.860 this should, this is a disgrace to parliament that it's even being put forward. And I hope the
00:13:02.740 Mloc Québécois and the NDP are not so foolish that they're going to go along with this just in case 0.98
00:13:08.040 the liberals might trigger an election. Have some backbone and actually oppose people who are 0.97
00:13:13.380 cracking down on the liberties of Canadians. This is effectively trying to say whatever the Human
00:13:19.400 Rights Commission, whatever the Minister of Justice or whatever prosecutor thinks is hateful is now
00:13:25.360 allowed to be prosecuted. Because even in this, they don't, they don't actually provide a definition
00:13:29.980 of hate because that would be something they'd have to stick to. They want it to be very vague so they
00:13:34.900 can turn this bill into something that they can target conservatives or anyone they disagree with
00:13:40.480 at different times based on different contexts. They need it to be nice and vague so that during
00:13:45.880 an election cycle that they could potentially have people arrested or charged for saying things that
00:13:50.320 are anti-liberal. Anyways, that should be it for me today. Again, I've said this in other videos,
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00:14:42.000 in a future video, probably also going to be talking about the Online Harms Act in the future,
00:14:46.280 but this was just a general overview. I'll definitely talk about it in live streams as well as break down
00:14:51.940 individual aspects of it or very ridiculous defenses that I know Liberal Party
00:14:57.160 influencers are going to put on for this bill. Anyways, have a great day, everyone, and I'll be back later.