The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - November 25, 2023


The Media Whines About Poilievre Beating Them

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legacy media criticism intellectual bully
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Wyatt Claypool
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Pierre Poilievre Andrew Coyne Erin O'Toole Justin Trudeau Candace Malcolm Tristan Trudeau Pierre Pauly Chantal Hubert Noam Chomsky Jenny Burns Trump
Trudeau Pretends He Is Pro-Free Speech Poilievre Is To Blame For Every Legacy Media Mistake

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In this episode, I talk about the ridiculous amount of anti-Pierre Polyev media coverage surrounding his first few months as the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, and how it has only gotten worse since then. I also talk about a car bomb that exploded at a border crossing between Canada and the United States, and why we need to take our national security seriously.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everyone. Remember about a year ago when Pierre Polyev had first become the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada and all the media coverage surrounding his first few months as the leader of the party?
00:00:10.780 Remember all the media talking heads, political commentators from legacy media who immediately started attacking Pierre Polyev as if he was super unpopular?
00:00:19.920 Oh, the Canadian public isn't going to like him.
00:00:22.060 Oh, look at this poll that's showing moderate Canadians don't really like Pierre Polyev.
00:00:25.420 Oh, women don't like Pierre Polyev.
00:00:27.240 Look at all this stuff indicating that Pierre Polyev is going to crash and burn as much as O'Toole, even though the media loved O'Toole because O'Toole wasn't an ounce Conservative.
00:00:35.880 But all this anti-Polyev coverage was going on for a very long time.
00:00:40.380 And it was completely absurd from the beginning because in Canadian politics, we don't really have a strong focus on political leaders and politicians as Americans do.
00:00:49.880 So in Canada, when a new opposition leader is chosen by their party, it takes a while for them to be able to gain the name recognition and momentum for Canadians to take them seriously and actually start shifting their federal vote around depending on who the leader of the opposition is and how it changes the sort of dynamics of the political system.
00:01:09.100 Obviously, it was never going to stay that Polyev was just going to be kind of performing like a generic Conservative leader was, like the polling had been showing during the leadership election where nobody knew who the leader was going to be, like everyone kind of knew Polyev was going to win.
00:01:22.860 But all of the polls during the leadership election and the Conservatives were kind of stagnant because it's basically generic Tory versus Justin Trudeau.
00:01:31.180 As soon as Polyev became leader, it ever so slightly started to rise.
00:01:35.440 And the media during this period where technically the Liberals could still win more seats as the Conservatives, they were immediately bashing Polyev.
00:01:42.420 And now over the past about six or seven months, now that the Conservative Party has spiked in the polls, now all these media talking heads that were mocking Polyev, mocking his style, saying that, oh, all this populist rhetoric, this isn't going to work well with moderate Canadians.
00:01:57.240 Oh, he can't be leadership, Polyev.
00:01:58.840 Now he has to become prime ministerial.
00:02:00.900 Oh, he just doesn't understand how politics works.
00:02:03.100 Oh, did you know that he's been in politics since 2004 and he doesn't know how politics work? 0.99
00:02:07.060 And it was just all this crap for so long. 0.80
00:02:09.680 And then when he started spiking in the polls, you saw a very, very funny shift. 0.98
00:02:14.440 The Chantel Hubert's of the world stopped writing articles about how Polyev is a disaster for the Conservatives and he can't win an election.
00:02:22.580 And now they've switched to just whining constantly.
00:02:26.000 Oh, he's such a bore.
00:02:27.480 He's mean.
00:02:28.500 I can't believe he doesn't take our, like, smear accusations against him seriously.
00:02:33.200 Oh, he's like Trump.
00:02:34.600 He's like whatever leader in another country.
00:02:36.560 Oh, he's, you know, he doesn't take, like, he doesn't take the media attacks at face value the way O'Toole did.
00:02:43.560 Oh, this is a terrible era for politics in Canada.
00:02:46.560 He's not going to let Tristan Trudeau win?
00:02:48.440 Oh, goodness.
00:02:49.640 Is there anything worse than that?
00:02:51.360 A conservative leader who doesn't just let the Liberals win.
00:02:54.320 And this is what we've been hearing for the past seven months.
00:02:57.060 And it's come to a head just in these past few days because of just how ridiculous the media attacks now becoming.
00:03:03.820 Okay.
00:03:04.200 So I'm not sure if you know about, I assume you do, but in case you don't know, there was a car explosion that happened at a border crossing at the Rainbow Bridge or the Rainbow, I think it's the Rainbow Bridge border crossing between the United States and Canada.
00:03:16.560 Everyone pretty much, as soon as it reported that there was a giant fireball at this border crossing and all the destruction that was caused by it, assumed this must be a terror attack.
00:03:26.160 It didn't turn out to be a terror attack, but even the media, like CTV News, published that it's basically suspected to be a terror attack, or I think they even said it was a terror attack based on sources they had talked to.
00:03:36.980 It really doesn't matter.
00:03:37.920 But Pierre Polyev stood up in Parliament and said that, based on media reporting, this sounds like it's a terror attack and that we need to take our national security more seriously.
00:03:46.780 Now, the media excoriated him when it was found out that it wasn't actually a terror attack and was basically just an insanely bad car accident that had resulted in a vehicle explosion.
00:03:58.140 And the media is acting like Polyev was the originator of this rumor, and he wasn't the one who said it.
00:04:03.600 And when Polyev then fires back and points out that he was not the one who originated this during a press conference, where a Canadian press journalist basically says,
00:04:12.420 was it responsible for you to call it a terror attack when we hadn't confirmed anything, when a Canadian, you know, when this public safety minister hadn't confirmed if it was yet?
00:04:20.840 And Polyev's like, you guys reported this.
00:04:23.040 What are you talking about?
00:04:24.020 Why is it my fault for saying what you guys said?
00:04:26.520 But there's no standards in the media anymore.
00:04:28.920 And all the media focuses on is the fact that Polyev holds them accountable.
00:04:33.040 So they're in very strange fashion, holding him accountable because they were not accountable, because they messed up.
00:04:40.620 He's bad for having quoted them.
00:04:42.620 They might as well come out and said, Polyev, you know we suck at our jobs.
00:04:46.060 Why are you even bothering to quote us?
00:04:48.240 If they took that stance, maybe I'd agree with them. 0.87
00:04:50.620 Maybe Polyev shouldn't be ever referencing something from CTV News again.
00:04:54.740 But still, this is how whiny the media has become.
00:04:57.820 Polyev merely pointing out the media is bad at their jobs and then holding them accountable makes him a bully.
00:05:03.040 I just want to bring up some of the posts here that we've had from, and I'm even specifically using a lot of Andrew Coyne, because he's supposedly supposed to be a conservative commentator on power and politics on the CBC.
00:05:15.160 And I guess he's a writer somewhere else.
00:05:16.840 I don't know why anyone likes him.
00:05:18.840 It's just 5,000 word articles on an issue that everyone already got over five days ago.
00:05:24.760 Andrew Coyne is always two weeks late to writing about anything.
00:05:27.720 And it's just word salad.
00:05:30.100 It's him basically sort of maneuvering in and out of any sort of principles.
00:05:34.680 The man dodges any sort of principle pylon on his way to getting to his non-point at the end of every single article he writes.
00:05:42.360 But he was putting stuff out like this when people were posting the clips of Polyev, you know, besting, in my opinion, this Canada press journalist.
00:05:49.720 And he says, I don't know who thinks he's impressive with his campus toward childishness, but they're probably already voting for him.
00:05:56.600 What are you talking about, Andrew?
00:05:58.680 Like, it's childish to say that CTV News published it and I just referenced their report?
00:06:04.560 It's insane, the double standards.
00:06:06.140 If Trudeau said this to a reporter, said, hey, you reported and I was just quoting you at the time because it seemed like the best evidence we have.
00:06:12.980 Everyone would be like, oh, Justin Trudeau is so mature, holding the media accountable for spreading misinformation.
00:06:18.180 But if Polyev, even saying this is a media report and obviously everyone knows that it still has to be confirmed.
00:06:24.460 If he quotes it and it was wrong, it's not the media's fault, it's his fault for some reason.
00:06:29.020 And you can see this throughout all the headlines.
00:06:30.940 You got all these, like, articles from Politico, he just can't help himself.
00:06:34.460 And the Chronicle Journal, Polyev fuels voter cynicism.
00:06:37.520 Canada conservatively or appropriately plays fast and loose with the truth.
00:06:41.280 The fast and loose with the truth, you mean he quoted you guys and you messed up and he technically had not said something that was true?
00:06:48.000 Even though he couched it in saying that, hey, this is a media report, which means that, yeah, it isn't fully confirmed yet.
00:06:54.440 But, you know, politicians are supposed to react to events as they're happening, not wait a month and then maybe make a comment about it.
00:07:00.480 We expect our politicians to be actually on top of things.
00:07:03.800 They get criticized for taking too long to respond to crises.
00:07:07.440 But this keeps going on.
00:07:08.780 And, of course, you get the CBC, like, basically saying, like, oh, he's, like, attacking the media or whatever.
00:07:14.320 He got, like, he got called out for making wrong comments, even though, again, all these people are the ones who made the comments.
00:07:21.080 Like, literally, look, the CTV on screen.
00:07:24.200 They said, Rainbow Bridge Blast.
00:07:26.600 Gould criticizes Polyev's terror attack remarks.
00:07:29.500 You guys made the terror attack report.
00:07:31.780 And now you get to turn around and criticize him for quoting you.
00:07:34.860 But going over to Andrew Coyne again, because he's, quote, tweeting Candace Malcolm over at True North.
00:07:40.020 I'm also going to play a True North edited clip here in a second.
00:07:43.620 So definitely go follow those guys.
00:07:45.160 But, frankly, if you're watching me, you probably already read True North, which is good.
00:07:50.400 So Candace Malcolm put out this tweet saying, legacy media journos are waging an all-out war against the Conservative Party, mocking its leader, past and present, petty name-calling, partisan mudslinging, cheering on attacks, which is 100% true.
00:08:03.300 The media always is so childish, so backbiting.
00:08:07.800 They're always just constantly mocking and criticizing Conservative leaders. 0.93
00:08:12.240 It's always the coverage going towards any election over the past few races in terms of 2021, 2019, 2015, is how is this cool, dynamic, Liberal leader going to beat this stodgy, disgusting Conservative?
00:08:25.380 They never give the Conservative the time of the day.
00:08:28.020 And the only time they ever compliment a Conservative is when they act like a Liberal.
00:08:32.500 So if you basically intentionally lose as a Conservative like Aaron O'Toole, they'll throw some comments here and there.
00:08:37.640 But they'll still basically say that you're far right and you're crazy and you're unelectable right before the election hits anyways, just to make sure to stick that knife in at the end.
00:08:45.640 But with Andrew Coyne's response to Candace Malcolm, I don't see how she's not absolutely correct.
00:08:51.580 Andrew said, when you start to believe your own propaganda, you end up sounding like a movie trailer.
00:08:55.540 When a cynical political warrior like Jenny Burns deploys this industrial-grade BS, you can pretty sure she knows it's BS and knows you know she knows and doesn't care. 0.87
00:09:04.520 What BS?
00:09:05.640 This is literally in the context of Polyev saying, hey, why are you attacking me?
00:09:10.360 I cited a media report and you guys even say you're highly credible and you criticize independent media because they're not part of your legacy media club.
00:09:18.840 But now Polyev's bad for quoting you.
00:09:21.380 Andrew Coyne is basically upset whenever a Conservative wins.
00:09:25.240 If you are a Conservative who can win, Andrew Coyne does not like you.
00:09:28.520 He loved Aaron O'Toole.
00:09:29.900 I remember there was an article where he was basically comparing Polyev to O'Toole and waxing on poetic about how O'Toole gave us these 50-page policy papers.
00:09:39.100 He was so intellectual.
00:09:40.500 He was boring.
00:09:42.180 He had no principles.
00:09:43.700 He constantly flip-flopped.
00:09:45.440 But Coyne loved him because he makes Coyne feel smart, because he hand delivers these big policy papers to Coyne.
00:09:52.920 I'll read my 50-page policy paper, Mr. Coyne.
00:09:56.020 I'd love to hear about your thoughts on my random mixture of, like, incoherent policies.
00:10:01.680 And Coyne loves it because it's complicated.
00:10:04.040 Polyev is not complicated.
00:10:05.520 He's not pretentious.
00:10:06.620 And that's why Coyne hates him, because he doesn't release 50-page policy plans.
00:10:11.320 He just articulates his small government vision, talks about family values and parental rights, a couple other things.
00:10:17.800 You could say, well, he's being vague.
00:10:19.160 Well, the whole point is that Canadians want him to prove he believes in the principle, and Polyev has been going around proving he believes in the principle.
00:10:26.400 Who cares about the policy detail if you're not actually convincing people that you believe in the principles that you're apparently standing for?
00:10:34.060 Coyne does not have any principles, so as soon as Polyev is on the trail marketing his principles, he's completely in the jungle and doesn't know what's going on.
00:10:42.260 He's pissed about it, too, for some reason.
00:10:44.180 I don't get it.
00:10:45.140 Anyways, I want to go to the CBC.
00:10:47.120 I think it's Power in Politics.
00:10:48.100 I don't know.
00:10:49.080 It's the Rosemary Barton show.
00:10:50.560 If you watch it, your IQ is going to go down.
00:10:52.440 Let's quickly play this minute and, like, 15-second clipper or so just so you can just see the media getting so agitated by the fact that Polyev knows how to best them, and they're very upset about it.
00:11:04.200 As soon as you criticize a media journalist and you're correct about it, that's bullying.
00:11:07.980 It's bullying if you do that.
00:11:09.660 Just, you know, trigger warning.
00:11:11.800 Polyev might bully someone because he's right.
00:11:14.720 It will be very hard to sell a leader who is turning out to be an intellectual bully, especially one who picks on people who are smaller than him in the sense that the journalist asking a question is smaller than someone who is the leader of a major party.
00:11:34.700 And I don't know what is being said outside Quebec in the other language, but I was on a panel today, and the words I used associated with Pierre Poilier, and they are gaining currency, is that he is someone who will lie whenever it suits his purpose.
00:11:55.360 Last word to you, Andrew.
00:11:57.740 Well, and it depends what kind of leader you're looking for.
00:12:00.080 You know, it used to be we looked for leaders.
00:12:01.660 We wanted to look up to them.
00:12:03.140 We wanted leaders, and we looked up to them because they were able to rise above these kind of petty squabbles.
00:12:08.440 This is small and insecure, and it appeals to people who want a leader who they don't have to look up to who's just as small and insecure as they are.
00:12:15.300 That's not the kind I think that most Canadians are looking for.
00:12:18.300 I think they want people who are uniters and not dividers, where people are trying to appeal to the best of us and not the worst of us. 0.97
00:12:25.360 It's so foolish to hear Chantel Hubert going on like, well, I don't think Canadians want to vote for someone who's an intellectual bully. 0.97
00:12:34.980 Chantel, you lost. 1.00
00:12:36.360 You lost.
00:12:37.380 You literally were writing article after article for the Toronto Star talking about how Polyev's unpopular is not going to win.
00:12:42.680 Now that he's popular, you're just whimpering about how you think he's, oh, I still don't think, I can't see how Canadians want to vote for an intellectual bully.
00:12:50.560 He's not an intellectual bully.
00:12:51.640 He's correct.
00:12:52.260 You guys are so used to just people bowing down and saying that you're correct about everything and not thinking for themselves that as soon as a leader rejects the media's fake wisdom, that now it's bullying.
00:13:03.540 And Andrew Coyne is going on about how we used to elect leaders that we would look up to.
00:13:08.900 I don't look up to.
00:13:10.560 The subtext here is Andrew Coyne thinks you should look up to him.
00:13:15.320 Nobody should look up to Andrew Coyne.
00:13:16.660 If you're looking for an actual intellectual bully, it's Andrew Coyne.
00:13:20.440 He is intentionally obtuse in his writing. 0.94
00:13:23.040 He is intentionally just, like, pretentious and very obscure in his references because he's smarter than you. 0.97
00:13:29.920 These people remind me of, and you can be soft-spoken and you can be an intellectual bully. 0.88
00:13:34.180 These people think if you're a bit conservative, you're a bigot, you're awful, you're far right, and they will insult you all day long.
00:13:39.740 But if you're correct about something, now you're bullying them. 1.00
00:13:42.160 Oh, I can't believe you took us to task for being full of crap. 0.99
00:13:45.720 Well, you're bullying me. 1.00
00:13:47.480 But these people, you can be a soft-spoken jerk. 0.99
00:13:50.460 These people are like Noam Chomsky, very, very soft-spoken man, also evil human being, if you actually know any of his positions on things. 0.99
00:13:58.040 And all these people, if you talk about family values, they will get deeply triggered because they hate family values.
00:14:04.080 None of these people, like, Andrew Coyne's version of conservatism is, don't even lower taxes, just spend the money slightly more efficiently, and that's conservatism.
00:14:13.860 If you do slightly more efficient spending with the level of, like, taxation and bloated bureaucracy that Justin Trudeau has, that's conservatism to Andrew Coyne. 0.90
00:14:24.460 It's ridiculous. 0.61
00:14:25.140 He's a managerial conservative. 0.72
00:14:27.220 He loves the institutions because he loves the sort of intellectual power he gets from knowing a lot about them.
00:14:33.240 These people are full of it.
00:14:35.360 Polyev is besting them because he doesn't care to try and please intellectual dolts like Andrew Coyne anymore.
00:14:41.600 He actually cares to please the average Canadian who wants a leader who sympathizes with them about the wreckage that Justin Trudeau has made of the country as much as they do.
00:14:52.900 Anyways, that's pretty much it for me today.
00:14:54.720 If you want to donate to my legal Give, Send, Go, it's in the description of this video below. 0.95
00:14:59.160 I just went through my deposition where the opposing counsel questioned me in this stupid defamation case. 0.77
00:15:06.640 I think I did extremely well. 0.97
00:15:08.080 They had nothing on me, and the questioning really did reflect that.
00:15:11.420 I've just repeated questions about absolutely nothing and, you know, trying to dig down into my answers and try and find an angle in which I'm somehow wrong, even though the case is so clear-cut it's ridiculous.
00:15:22.080 So if you want to throw in $5, $10 there, it really helps me.
00:15:25.640 I'm having to pay like a $2,300 bill just for the questioning itself.
00:15:30.640 So any dollar that you throw my way really helps me out.
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00:15:52.720 And other than that, I hope everyone has a fantastic day and doesn't mind that my videos are getting a bit longer and more rambly, but hopefully you just view it like a podcast.