The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - October 04, 2023


＂The UniParty＂ Is A Lazy PPC Talking Point

Topics
uniparty Talking Points
Hosted by
Wyatt Claypool
Mentioned
Justin Trudeau Pierre Poilievre Erin O'Toole John Brennan Elizabeth May Maxime Bernier Greg Fergus Daniel Boardman Andrew Scheer Mark Friesen Julio Scott
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Length

12 minutes

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192.49

Word count

2,352

Sentence count

130

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Misogyny

3

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Toxicity

9

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Hate speech

2

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Justin Trudeau and Pierre Polyev are in league with each other, despite the fact that they constantly rip on each other for opposing each other's policies. In fact, there are some subtle signs that shows that the two are all in on it together.

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00:00:00.000 I feel like I have to confront the extremely stupid and dishonest talking point that's going around on social media these days, that the Liberal Party, the Conservatives, the NDP, and sometimes they even throw the Greens in there, that all of them are one big uniparty. 0.99
00:00:13.560 They're all globalists, they're all pseudo-socialists or whatever behind the scenes, and you just don't know, but I see the subtle signs that shows that they're really all in on it together. 0.96
00:00:23.100 This is obviously coming from a lot of PPC people on X and Facebook, whenever they see just innocuous things going on in Parliament, and they believe that somehow Pierre Polyev and Justin Trudeau are in league with each other, despite the fact that they constantly rip on each other, despite the fact that their policy plans are completely opposite these days.
00:00:42.140 Justin Trudeau wants way more spending to deal with affordability issues, which obviously would only make affordability issues worse, and Pierre Polyev wants smaller government cuts in spending on a lot of things, more military spending, get the government off gun owners' backs and everything like that.
00:00:57.680 Obviously, the Liberals and Conservatives are extremely different, but this uniparty talking point is very, very interesting, I think, to people who don't know how politics works.
00:01:07.400 So they like to believe that they can detect subtle signs that somehow all the parties are really the same, because I feel like people are very attracted in the PPC to theories that everything's actually super, super simplistic if you just sort of notice these little things that we notice.
00:01:24.180 Everything's actually extremely simple in the sense that, oh, it's us versus everyone else.
00:01:30.220 And the PPC, I think, is trying to build this narrative, because frankly, Pierre Polyev is eating their lunch, and they have nowhere to go in terms of the polling right now.
00:01:39.500 Nobody really cares about their platform.
00:01:42.120 Maxime Bernier and PPC HQ did not put in the effort to actually make sure that the party worked.
00:01:47.220 Again, I voted for the PPC in 2021, because I didn't like Aaron O'Toole at all.
00:01:52.160 That is a good candidate to call maybe a uniparty-type politician. 0.61
00:01:57.300 He's still a conservative politician.
00:01:59.320 It's not like the liberals and conservatives weren't trying to beat each other in 2021.
00:02:03.020 But you could say that Aaron O'Toole was so liberal that it didn't, like voting liberal conservative felt like a worthless choice.
00:02:10.060 So that's why I sat that one out.
00:02:11.840 But the uniparty talking point is applied to literally every single conservative leader.
00:02:17.160 And now we see it with Pierre Polyev.
00:02:19.240 And why is it being applied to Pierre Polyev?
00:02:20.920 Well, like I mentioned, because Justin Trudeau and Pierre Polyev took part in an almost 700-year tradition of the prime minister and the opposition leader dragging the new Speaker of the House up to the Speaker seat.
00:02:33.920 This tradition exists because, like, basically the Speaker of the House back in England used to have to go and give the king bad news.
00:02:41.780 So obviously it was considered a bad job to have because it's quite stressful.
00:02:45.140 So they kind of made a joke of the idea that the House Speaker has to be dragged up to actually sit and preside over Parliament.
00:02:53.660 Anyways, but I'll play the video because this is, I guess, a damning evidence that Justin Trudeau and Pierre Polyev are actually in on it together.
00:03:00.840 And it's a one big, you know, close fob unity party.
00:03:03.960 Yeah, that's all of that that you have to really see.
00:03:31.360 But, like, guys, I understand that you don't like Justin Trudeau.
00:03:34.460 I don't like Justin Trudeau as much as the next guy.
00:03:37.120 I don't like Greg Fergus, for example, too.
00:03:40.880 I don't like him very much.
00:03:42.060 He has a bad record.
00:03:43.480 He is very left-wing on social issues.
00:03:46.000 He is corrupt, as it was seen that he was, like, investigated for ethical violations.
00:03:51.140 Yeah, Greg Fergus isn't great.
00:03:52.580 I like Pierre Polyev, but I don't get mad at Pierre Polyev because he's taking part in an almost 700-year tradition.
00:03:58.520 It's okay for there to be slightly unifying little traditions in Parliament between MPs.
00:04:03.960 I don't need people to just be, like, hucking tomatoes at each other as soon as they come into Parliament.
00:04:08.320 And guess what?
00:04:09.580 Maxine Bernier would do the same thing if he was Prime Minister.
00:04:11.960 You would want the Liberals to say, like, I guarantee all the PPC people on Twitter,
00:04:16.060 Maxine Bernier had a majority government right now, and they were picking a speaker.
00:04:21.080 And, you know, Justin Trudeau is the opposition leader.
00:04:22.880 The PPC supporters, and I, like, when I say supporters, I'm not saying if you ever vote PPC or you're still voting PPC, this is you.
00:04:29.540 I'm talking about the influencers, the people who never shut up about how the PPC is going to totally kill at this next election
00:04:35.860 while they never actually do any door-knocking or real election work,
00:04:39.240 and they just sit around on X and Facebook just typing messages to nobody.
00:04:43.480 That's the people I'm talking about.
00:04:44.800 They would be ticked at Justin Trudeau if Justin Trudeau was the opposition leader,
00:04:48.800 and he wouldn't take part in this tradition along with Maxine Bernier.
00:04:51.800 And they would be right to be ticked because it would be Justin Trudeau thumbing his nose in the face of a tradition that's supposed to be unifying.
00:04:59.280 But you get people from the PPC like this, someone who's an actual organizer for the, like, Nova Scotia or Maritimes area, Julie Scott,
00:05:07.260 says, here comes the globalist uniparty.
00:05:09.560 All three salaries combined are $950,000, like, $900, like, yeah, $950,900.
00:05:16.700 One, that's not that much money.
00:05:17.920 You will learn that the opposition leader, the prime minister of the country,
00:05:21.120 and the guy who's the speaker of the House, and it's less than a million dollars, that's actually not too bad.
00:05:25.800 I'm not sure why you think this is a big win, but, like, oh, it's a globalist uniparty because they took part in a tradition.
00:05:32.600 Who cares?
00:05:33.540 The PPC will do so much better if it actually goes after the liberals and explains how they will operate differently than the current government.
00:05:42.840 The PPC has never gone anywhere because it feels like a grievance party.
00:05:46.920 This is where, despite whether it's true or not, the talking point is very effective that Maxime Bernier only started the PPC to get back at Andrew Scheer.
00:05:56.340 Because nothing, like, Maxime Bernier has done has proven that he's actually trying to form a party that's going to get into parliament.
00:06:03.240 And in 2019, I hope, sorry that this is turning into a rant about the PPC, but I just kind of want to at this point.
00:06:09.100 In 2019, Maxime Bernier could have retained a seat in both.
00:06:12.520 The polling was actually pretty close.
00:06:14.340 And he lost by, like, seven, eight points, which is a pretty large margin.
00:06:18.340 But that's not a large margin considering he wasn't even in the riding barely during the entire election.
00:06:23.100 He was out in, like, B.C., Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Alberta for most of the election.
00:06:27.360 And you could say, like, and I have PPC reply guys like Mark Friesen say, well, it's because there's a lot of votes and support out for the PPC in Alberta and Saskatchewan, blah, blah.
00:06:36.540 You're not going to win any seats.
00:06:37.440 It doesn't matter if you rack up a lot of votes.
00:06:39.100 You're not going to win any seats.
00:06:40.160 Your best effort, your best chance at being a real party is winning both this election, just pouring all your resources into both, proving the formula works in one riding, and then moving on to other riding.
00:06:51.800 Do you know how the Green Party won sandwich in the Gulf Islands for Elizabeth May?
00:06:54.920 They literally flew in every single, like, Green Party staffer and activist into the riding, into Vancouver Island.
00:07:03.780 And guess who else they flighted?
00:07:05.280 They flew in Green Party, USA, and even Democrats, activists, to come to that riding to campaign for Elizabeth May.
00:07:11.820 They smashed that riding for a year and a half in order to get Elizabeth May in. 1.00
00:07:17.580 I do not like Elizabeth May.
00:07:18.640 She's a crazy 9-11 conspiracy theorist and believes in, like, healing crystals and whatnot. 1.00
00:07:24.280 Nutcase.
00:07:25.320 Also, she's very good at politics. 0.98
00:07:27.340 People like the PPC, if they want to get into Parliament, they have to become good at politics.
00:07:30.780 And I don't think Maxine Bernier is focused on being good at politics.
00:07:33.580 They don't even have EDAs in every single riding.
00:07:36.000 It's not, if you can't operate an EDA, you're not going to be able to win a seat.
00:07:39.740 And if you can't, it's just that simple.
00:07:41.780 You need to be able to show that you can organize on the ground.
00:07:45.380 Twitter, or X, I guess, is not everything.
00:07:47.740 And putting up talking points like, oh, the Conservatives and Liberals are in a uniparty.
00:07:52.520 You guys are not doing what you think you're doing.
00:07:54.700 I know that you think by saying that you're going to, like, chill Conservative voters to their core.
00:07:58.960 And they're going to be like, you're right.
00:08:00.180 They're all part of a big uniparty.
00:08:01.800 The only way we can save ourselves is by electing Maxine Bernier and him, like, storing secret documents as biker girlfriend's residence or whatever. 0.95
00:08:10.720 I don't know what you, like, that's, you're not going to freak people out by saying that everything is corrupt and terrible and evil in Canada.
00:08:17.200 You, so you have to vote PPC.
00:08:18.600 It's not compelling. 1.00
00:08:19.740 It's a doom and gloom, dumb talking point. 0.97
00:08:22.260 And by going after the Conservatives constantly, you're only feeding him to the idea that the PPC is a grievance party. 1.00
00:08:29.080 The uniparty talking point is stupid. 0.96
00:08:31.060 You can find areas, like, places you can criticize any Conservative leader on, especially people like Aaron O'Toole, who are effectively just a Liberal. 1.00
00:08:39.180 Obviously, you can.
00:08:40.460 But the thing is that your main target should always be the government, or it seems petty.
00:08:44.980 Have you ever, the only time that a opposition leader is ever, the main focus of everyone is when you're on a debate stage and they're clearly winning, so everyone's going after them.
00:08:54.060 But if it's not a debate in a general election, you criticize the government.
00:08:57.640 If you're not criticizing the government, it looks like you're running for fifth place every single election, and you're just looking to show that you're purer than the Conservative Party.
00:09:05.800 And the purity testing, I'm very conservative.
00:09:08.760 I'm extremely, I'm more conservative than most people in the PPC and the CPC.
00:09:12.180 At the same time, purity testing nonsense will not win elections.
00:09:17.240 What you're going to tell, like, because the thing is that then the Christian Heritage Party can step slightly to the right of the PPC and say, hey, guess what?
00:09:23.560 We're actually more conservative than the PPC and the CPC, so everyone should come and vote for us.
00:09:27.360 Then the Libertarians can say, well, on a pure, like, political spectrum basis, we're actually the furthest term of the right, so everyone should be voting for us who's super conservative.
00:09:34.720 It's uncompelling.
00:10:04.720 To your left and a little bit more to your right.
00:10:06.480 So you want to be somewhat to the right.
00:10:09.160 You want to, like, the conservative being more right wing actually makes them a far more appealing party because they monopolize everyone on that right wing.
00:10:15.700 If you go all the way to the right and you're, like, trying to be as pure as humanly possible, yeah, you'll win some purity testing type people who only want a party that's going to be as pure as humanly possible.
00:10:26.440 But you're going to lose everyone who's slightly to the center and in the center.
00:10:30.260 You want to be kind of, like, halfway all the way to the right, the furthest right, but not right in the center and not, like, all the way to the left.
00:10:38.700 You always, if you're trying to get the most amount of voters, you want to be in this place where you're not just trying to be this soupy nothingness like Aaron O'Toole right in the center.
00:10:45.760 You want to be significantly to the right so that those people trust you while you're also not being boxed out by being in the center by the people who are more to your left.
00:10:54.600 I don't really, I'm not saying that everyone should just, like, you know, we should scientifically run for office and that we should only, we should design platforms in a way to, like, attract people in this, like, surgical way.
00:11:05.240 I think you just should run as a genuine conservative.
00:11:07.380 But that's why genuine conservatives win, because this, like, this kind of scientific way of thinking about elections benefits people who are actual conservatives rather than this kind of centrist, moderate, I kind of am the candidate for everyone type guy.
00:11:21.780 And it also doesn't help to be the candidate for nobody by being only the candidate for people who are 120% on your side, like the PPC is kind of trying to operate their party these days.
00:11:32.580 Anyways, sorry for that rant.
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