The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - TNT Live： Bill C-18, Trudeau Separation, and Singh Lies

00:00:00.000 all right welcome to our tnt live we've been banned from the internet stream because of

00:00:08.960 justin trudeau and friends it's bill c18 it's yeah this is how you have to do news now so

00:00:15.360 writing down news is now haram in canada um uh justin trudeau put out a hadith saying

00:00:22.380 um written news um need you need to pay a billion dollars for it to be seen or else you cannot see

00:00:29.280 it and then google and uh facebook said uh no bueno to this uh in more serious thing we'll give

00:00:35.420 an actual breakdown of um what went on is this is let's say to steel man this and i'll keep talking

00:00:43.680 and then why do eventually get very frustrated and jump in as i take my trudeau hat on so put your

00:00:48.220 trudeau hat on or if you don't have a trudeau hat just ram your head against the wall so you lose

00:00:52.320 about 23 iq points and and then listen along or just put blackface on and that works too yes you

00:00:58.520 have the big tech companies which are evil because they're making money now they're not evil when

00:01:03.200 we're doing exactly what they want but for all intents and purposes today this five minutes they're

00:01:09.340 evil and they're making too much money and the news media is struggling because they're not making that

00:01:14.280 much money and the reason news media is not making money in canada is not because their business model

00:01:19.760 is antiquated and i can go into that at length it's because the big evil tech companies are stealing

00:01:25.120 their links now the way big tech companies steal the links of the national telegraph is we willingly

00:01:30.840 post them onto facebook and put them on google and then people can find them there and come to our

00:01:37.480 site this is the definition of stealing this is a crime to justin trudeau by the way going into a

00:01:43.440 store and literally taking things not paying for them and walking out that's not stealing this is

00:01:49.400 stealing so the thought was to make them pay their fair share um classic commie speak and in doing so

00:01:57.700 uh would require these tech companies to pay us for the privilege of hosting their articles now this

00:02:04.220 can be spun in a way that says oh we're trying to save canadian businesses because these tech giants

00:02:08.980 are getting rich off these news companies and they're not giving them anything and that's not what

00:02:14.260 it's happening is the it's the action universe these giant tech companies like facebook and google

00:02:18.700 have enabled a system in which online and new media can flourish and come up and anyone can really start

00:02:24.940 a media company if they you know put their heart into it uh so that's that that's reality so why

00:02:30.360 did i did you want to add anything to the general explanation and just a just a little bit it's just

00:02:36.420 more so like obviously i guess this is more going into the commentary right away obviously the

00:02:40.780 justin trudeau and the liberals are basing this all they think that they can win on this just on

00:02:45.580 the idea that a lot of people do not like big tech and they'll immediately take the canadian

00:02:49.060 government side instead of facebook and google because they're so bad and they're censorious so

00:02:53.740 well who do we care if they are being get like they're forced to pay journalists money but as we're

00:02:59.420 going to be discussing it like as we discuss it going forward obviously it was never about the money and

00:03:04.780 it was just about setting a bar so high for google and facebook to keep running canadian news

00:03:09.380 that they would inevitably just delist all canadian news so that no one can ever see it because

00:03:14.720 that's kind of what justin trudeau wants yeah i agree i think that that's the intent behind it is

00:03:19.840 so you had this this entirely fluffed up thing where um they can use their commie speak to say hey we're

00:03:25.940 saving alternative media or hey we're trying to save media but what they're actually doing is creating

00:03:30.240 the conditions in which tech companies say okay we're pulling alternative media and i always say you

00:03:34.820 have to look at this entire context of justin trudeau's um leadership where he paid the 600

00:03:40.920 million dollars and it's now been over a billion dollars in media bailouts not to mention the

00:03:44.820 billion dollar plus a year 1.4 billion we get to the cbc and they get billions and millions of dollars

00:03:49.900 so they'll be able to survive the government subsidies this way but with this growing trend

00:03:55.100 of online media and online media not being friendly to justin trudeau and it's not just because we're all

00:04:00.160 right wing uh yes i think right wing tends to you would say dominate alternative media i think

00:04:06.160 that's because the traditional media landscape has gone left wing uh so it's easier to come up in this

00:04:11.860 space as you know there's less saturation in the marketplace but there are successful left-wing

00:04:16.240 canadian news industries like canada land right um who you know i don't agree with everything you say

00:04:22.000 but you know they're the ones who really pushed hardest and broke the most i believe they did the

00:04:27.320 the most on the we scandal um you know they've been you know pretty they've been pretty good at

00:04:34.000 holding justin trudeau to account when they think he's doing some wrongdoing because they're not

00:04:37.380 beholden to any of the government um and this is not good if you're justin trudeau because you have

00:04:42.300 people saying whatever they want democracy and that's bad that's anti-democratic as we know

00:04:46.660 so you have that you have them suing rebel news and true north media and then you know the only

00:04:53.660 place left where you can go is like everyone has online media everyone can be their own little

00:04:58.340 media company if you have a smartphone which everyone does these days um you got to cut that

00:05:02.760 down so i think this is a somewhat clever way of destroying uh new media you can you can call it

00:05:10.620 and and and that's where we are and i why you can come in right now but then i'm going to go on a

00:05:16.100 rant about how the major media companies run stupid online businesses and why they suck

00:05:21.640 yeah like i was just going to say that a lot of people i've been at least seeing on twitter which

00:05:26.780 i guess is now called x but i'm just going to keep calling it twitter because it's easier uh a lot of

00:05:30.620 people are saying like well obviously justin trudeau was trying to get journalists paid and it just

00:05:34.380 backfired because why would he want you know the cbc and global news and all these other legacy media

00:05:39.380 companies that are friendly to him also taken off social media and like you know removed from facebook

00:05:45.180 and google and my answer to that is well no no he he's done the calculus and he thinks it's worth

00:05:51.160 not having pro trudeau legacy media outlets being distributed on google and facebook in exchange that

00:05:58.100 independent media doesn't actually get to speak up or other legacy sources that are somewhat

00:06:02.700 anti-trudeau like you know the toronto sun and you know uh the national post that justin trudeau

00:06:08.520 thinks that silence is better for him than anyone speaking at all because and just think about the

00:06:14.140 record here whenever justin trudeau goes on vacation and just does something stupid for a while

00:06:18.500 whenever we don't hear about him i find that that's when his polling numbers are increasing

00:06:22.520 the most because people have this idea in their heads that if they haven't heard from you in a while

00:06:26.600 then you're probably not exactly setting the world on fire so that's okay you're probably at least

00:06:31.200 somewhat confident in your job so trudeau to get out of this 10 point polling deficit he's in

00:06:36.220 probably wants less speech than more speech even if it shuts down some of his biggest offenders

00:06:41.300 yeah i think i think i think you're right about that and i think most people can see through it

00:06:47.360 at this point the people who want to see through it i mean the people who don't want to see through

00:06:50.920 it uh don't want to see through it like you know um you know i i had a i have an uncle who's an

00:06:56.240 executive at bell and we got into a bit of an argument a couple weeks ago or a month ago over

00:07:00.140 this and he's like you know he he loves the bill he's lobbying it for he's lobbying he's like i

00:07:04.280 lobby for the bill i think it's a good bill yeah it's some flaws and then i said like

00:07:06.800 yeah you're lobbying for it your bell your ctv you get the government money like you take money

00:07:11.760 from me and and you give it to you yeah that's great for you and he's he's one of more more

00:07:17.440 reasonable uncles but it was still like infuriating where they're like they had this high like they

00:07:21.460 just didn't want to listen to like i we're screwed like we have a 70 000 75 000 plus people facebook

00:07:27.780 page that we do the news on that we just can't use to distribute news now because the government's

00:07:31.560 ridiculous so that's what we're going through and you know all you know all the

00:07:36.280 i know bell and rogers were lobbying for this because they told me they were um so they're

00:07:40.940 very happy with this bill and of course they are because it's an anti-competition bill when you break

00:07:45.840 it down now you know they were saying you know one of the arguments that he was bringing up at this

00:07:51.060 as this dinner was um you know hey the online models just aren't working we've tried it and we've

00:07:56.820 tried to make money it's just not working i'm like for you there's lots of people who figured it out

00:08:01.200 you can't figure it out and you're bell and you want to change the system

00:08:04.460 because you have an antiquated business model you want to change the laws to mandate that your

00:08:08.980 antiquated business model never needs to change and no one else can make money it all has to go to you

00:08:12.540 that's the law you're lobbying for and you have billions of dollars you're doing it and it's not

00:08:15.660 even like it's that difficult but there's certain people who figured it out but it's maybe not

00:08:19.500 something you can scale up the problem with the cbc and a lot of these other like kind of large legacy

00:08:24.180 media companies is that they hire local journalists in every single tiny town to cover basically recover

00:08:30.380 the exact same local issues over and over again you'll have in ontario or in alberta there'll be

00:08:35.440 some sort of issue that happens in alberta and like five or six cbc journalists will affect effectively

00:08:40.840 written the same article and all of those people are being paid near six figures a lot of these people

00:08:44.900 are getting like eighty thousand dollars a year to do a subprime job covering the news and their their

00:08:49.540 actual payroll is so thick of course they're not going to be able to make money like the thing is that

00:08:54.160 every news company usually has a beat that they cover but now the cbc because they get so much money

00:08:59.340 they just cover everything which not only means that they tend to be a very bloated company at the

00:09:04.060 same time it also sucks dollars away from other media companies because cbc because it becomes the

00:09:09.020 easy one to go get your news from so then it keeps people from wanting to spend money at other independent

00:09:13.680 places or other legacy places i think that's an issue that that's that's one thing too is the the

00:09:19.400 heavily governed subsidized the separate subsidization of the industry and creating this cbc thing um the other

00:09:26.260 problem is like the the the monetization model for the major companies um they don't really work

00:09:36.820 um now i'm going to go into this by the way the way we have to understand stuff now if you're in the

00:09:40.120 chat and you support the national telegraph we started to give send go recently and we just put

00:09:43.660 it up um listen we're getting hit we're getting financially screwed over because we just can't use

00:09:48.000 facebook and google anymore um and that's killing our ad revenue so if you want to supplement the ad

00:09:52.800 we started to give send go where you can donate to us and just give us money so we can keep writing

00:09:56.940 articles anyway i should also highlight that we that you should go follow us on twitter i'll drop a link

00:10:00.680 to the twitter in the chat just so that's one of the consistent places if you don't have money if you

00:10:04.840 could just follow us on twitter so we can keep if you like reading the articles just like they're not

00:10:09.200 coming on facebook because it's illegal now follow on twitter um uh that would help as well okay so

00:10:14.480 the problem with mainstream media though in their online thing is they want to be a subscription-based

00:10:20.640 thing but then also sell advertising money you can't do both right if you like if you want to

00:10:25.360 like the way most online media companies are successful you look at them is they don't really

00:10:30.840 put much behind a paywall like the daily wire has stuff behind a paywall but it's like so extra stuff

00:10:35.920 like all the articles you can read uh you can listen to their entire podcast but if you want like

00:10:39.920 the second half of the ben shapiro podcast in video uh you subscribe and if you want like an extra

00:10:44.980 10 minutes of some shows you get that on the the subscriber thing half the time you're paying so

00:10:50.900 that there isn't ads in the video and it's effectively the exact same and you pay for and you pay to get

00:10:54.900 rid of ads and all that like that subscription model makes sense right but then you also have the ads

00:11:00.580 because the ads are really where you get where you have the ben shapiro doing ad reads like burnt gold

00:11:06.100 you get that because there's no uh paywall so you can get new readers coming in and being like oh i

00:11:16.180 like the daily wire you don't have that with the globe and mail like oh you get two free articles a

00:11:20.340 month who cares right like you use that up right away and then you're like okay i'm gone i'll go to

00:11:26.100 somewhere else because the the news market is so saturated that if you want like yeah the globe and

00:11:30.740 mail might have might break a story on chinese interference and all that but you know for the

00:11:37.140 two articles i really want to read in the globe and mail a year i'm not paying for the globe and mail

00:11:42.100 um but if it was sort of free and they decided to do internet like they did video content like internet

00:11:48.180 style and like you see the national post is starting to figure out like they're making you know

00:11:53.140 they're doing twitter twitter youtube shorts instagram reels like they're figuring out like oh this is

00:11:57.780 kind of the way you have to do it you know you have they have these massive social media followings

00:12:03.300 they get no traction because they can't leverage these followings and they're saying oh you can't

00:12:07.060 make money with two million followers you can't make money with two million followers if you're if

00:12:10.500 you're if everything's fine here's the perfect example cbc gem who in their right mind is sitting down

00:12:17.700 getting lobotomized to watch cbc gem think about all the money that goes into the production of cbc gem shows

00:12:23.700 that nobody watches and the thing is when you're posting just crap articles that just blandly

00:12:29.780 report and often misreport the details of random political developments or like the weather and

00:12:34.180 you're jamming it all onto one page obviously people are not going to be clicking on it because

00:12:38.020 you've you've created a bloated facebook page that doesn't have any specific purpose if they had cbc

00:12:43.060 politics they had cbc weather they had cbc sports they would be doing far better but they're doing

00:12:48.020 social media and like and facebook the way that you would do it in like 2007 and then they're

00:12:52.820 wondering why it's not working out for them you can't jam out an article you can't post a link on

00:12:57.620 facebook every five minutes and assume you're going to get traction facebook only has so much bandwidth

00:13:02.900 for people that they can show your stuff to so when you're just saying here's 70 articles in a day

00:13:07.460 how many people are they actually going to be able to show each individual one of those articles when

00:13:11.300 there's people frankly doing the job better than you are on a lot of these on a lot of this coverage

00:13:16.740 yeah these are all good points and like my frustration is like yeah one with the government but

00:13:21.140 you know the government's evil and they hate online media and they they they they've hated free

00:13:26.900 speech and and and the free flow of information since 2015 it's nothing new i'm not surprised

00:13:32.340 um you know they're twirling mustaches you know building contraptions to catch a road runner

00:13:37.860 this is what the government is doing with their time my frustration is more with the canadian public

00:13:44.180 who can't see through this on the last part and and it's not you know all right but it's it's the

00:13:51.220 mainstream establishment you know daniel's extended family dinners of like intelligent people

00:13:57.060 who just don't want to think anything through just don't want to think anything through don't want to

00:14:03.540 think about the potential consequences of their of their actions their beliefs and are perpetually

00:14:09.060 surprised when i i make a prediction uh that comes to fruition with the next three to six months oh

00:14:14.260 i hate i hate that whenever you have people who confront you and you listen and say well you know

00:14:17.940 what the bill says oh you know it's not bill c18 you're like oh you're you're misrepresenting bill c18

00:14:23.780 because bill c18 and the online news act says it's like it doesn't matter what the stated intentions of

00:14:29.860 a bill are if obviously the only end goal that would have come out of the bill is getting news shut down

00:14:36.260 that's why i say in like the videos i've made in the past the intention of bill c18 is to effectively

00:14:41.380 extort big tech into just shutting down news making and the thing is that they're not even putting a

00:14:45.780 dollar value on how much they want big tech to pay for clicks on articles that we posted voluntarily

00:14:51.060 we like the free platform because it allows us to connect to our audience i know facebook needs to

00:14:55.940 pay us for utilizing that feature it's foolish but they aren't even saying the dollar value per click

00:15:01.220 they're going to force facebook to basically sit down with both the government and like a new

00:15:05.460 league formed union of journalists to figure out how much per click should be should i'm sure you

00:15:10.660 and i are getting on that union of journalists no we got it yeah i think i got it mailed to me

00:15:14.900 yesterday that i was invited no but then then take that with bill c11 which allows the government

00:15:20.500 through the crtc to sort of shape algorithms on youtube and other social media platforms to promote

00:15:26.020 good clean canadian content so which is defined in bill c36 and hate speech stuff yeah so if you so if

00:15:32.900 through bill c18 if the if big tech was stupid enough frankly brain dead enough to go along with

00:15:39.140 this and pay journalists per click the then justin trudeau it'd be it's a win-win for him because

00:15:43.780 either they shut down all opposition voices and independent media or if the big tech's stupid enough

00:15:48.580 to actually pay media they can just use they can just shape the algorithm around people that the

00:15:53.300 government wants to get paid so the thing is that people would be getting paid would be in the cbc and

00:15:57.940 global news and whatnot who are supporting the we'd all be able to see sophie trudeau's tiktok page

00:16:02.900 that would be what a blessing for the the thing we can not anymore family

00:16:09.940 do this seven million views that's that's the modern world that's your generation not mine

00:16:15.060 yeah you have to watch reruns of i don't know seinfeld yeah quarter gas that's all you get that's all we have

00:16:22.900 left i can i can watch the office on netflix over and over again you can watch a cbc gem uh show about

00:16:29.060 babies babies no i think the the my generation's uh you know the boring people on dating apps who have

00:16:36.020 no uh life would have the interest to something something about the office or harry potter that

00:16:41.140 yeah they they watch friends and they pretend it's good because chandler's gonna do some shenanigans

00:16:46.020 yeah i can see you i hate friends i can see i can see that i can yeah i like i'm i'm a frazier kid

00:16:54.180 frazier's good i was this is my thing the phrase reruns i thought frazier was a better show than

00:16:58.580 friends too oh well and cheers cheers sucks that there's no argument is terrible basically imagine

00:17:06.100 basically imagine the worst part of any show but that's the entire show because they're just sitting

00:17:10.500 in a bar talking and that's it and the jokes are terrible that's your literal nightmare is going to a

00:17:15.700 bar drinking with people and doing small talk like i know and they made a show about it and they have

00:17:20.420 they have shtick and the only thing the only thing that would be worse for you is if people start to

00:17:24.660 open up emotionally uh about that guys if you want to get wyatt like why too if you want to get

00:17:29.540 wyatt like off the phone all you have to do is start being a bit emotional and he'll be like all right

00:17:34.340 we're done here it's like right i care about you i'm really hoping you're doing all right

00:17:38.820 screw this daniel go take some xanax bye no that's that's a life hack for maybe one person who who

00:17:47.220 needs it um yeah so we we have the entire canadian government system where we we've gone through the

00:17:53.860 sort of subsidize attack and then control um the algorithm thing and the the real big problem here is

00:18:04.580 i'm going to go back is how a large swath of the canadian public can't see it and i'm not talking

00:18:10.020 about the truanons i'm not talking about the people on twitter the fucking cam book what what's

00:18:15.380 her face like vicky campbell whatever was clearly a bot or whatever like these crudo lunatics who are

00:18:20.900 just out there you know instant defensive like that you get you get why they don't um you get why they

00:18:27.940 don't get it right if anything they actually hurt him right but it's it's more the sort of you know just

00:18:34.020 everyday you know canadian consumer just walking around like this is oh you know all the all the

00:18:40.100 things are pulled out of canada the government's trying to save them and just not being able to

00:18:43.620 think through this like this is a pretty this isn't like one plus one equals two but this isn't

00:18:49.300 you know next level calculus this is like finding out what three times four is like you might not be

00:18:53.780 good at math but just sit there you can figure out three times four um you know spoiler alert it's

00:18:58.980 12 and in this case three times four is you know you know justin trudeau times legislation you know

00:19:05.460 carry the and the thing that's so frustrating about it is that these people effectively have to carry

00:19:10.260 around contradictions in their mind and pretend that there's no contradiction these people will say

00:19:14.500 like well they're getting journalists paid and whatnot whatnot at the same time these people don't

00:19:18.340 really realize that they're already paying the legacy media to do a job that they aren't even

00:19:22.740 that they don't need care to do and when you ask these people to like you know about the plight of

00:19:28.180 independent media not being able to get paid they're like oh well like you know like they pretend

00:19:32.100 like you're somehow like asking some great feat for even asking for five dollars to survive even if they

00:19:37.140 don't even know that they're giving like hundreds of dollars to the legacy media every year already

00:19:41.860 yeah i mean like if like this is my frustration if the legacy media can't

00:19:46.500 succeed in an area where other people with less resources are succeeding and they're being

00:19:53.780 subsidized to the tunes of hundreds of millions of dollars what are we doing like what are we doing

00:20:01.300 because it is is by the way c18 had an extra 300 300 million dollars in there for the legacy media

00:20:10.260 there you go it's frustrating because like we don't we like and we're not trying to apply but like

00:20:15.220 we don't get this sort of like you can apply as a government a news agency in canada listen if we

00:20:20.340 were like two you know indigenous non-binary two-spirit people doing like news about you know uh which

00:20:26.980 blades of grass are growing we would get you know six hundred thousand dollars a year to from the

00:20:31.940 government to just do that um you know if we were like you know black trans alliance for you know

00:20:37.380 ukraine or or something i'm i'm not even kidding i was helping someone do some sort of government

00:20:41.860 relations stuff for a non-profit organization that was putting on an actually very good educational

00:20:46.580 event uh in the city of calgary and when we were talking to local politicians in calgary we were we

00:20:52.180 were told that yeah your event looks fantastic you actually might you'll make the city money on paper

00:20:57.300 and we actually end up making the city a bunch of money on uh in reality and they said this looks

00:21:01.380 like a fantastic event it's aimed at the right things it's aimed at getting like people uh kids

00:21:05.620 involved in stem fields and whatnot and they said but we can't give you money because it doesn't have

00:21:11.860 where we're helping like a yeah like we're helping like a bunch of kids like a bunch of

00:21:16.980 at-risk youth put on a slam poetry conference about saving the planet from client change if you were

00:21:22.820 doing that you would have money thrown at you even if five people show up we'll call it an amazing

00:21:27.700 success you could have a thousand people show up to your thing and if we give you more than ten

00:21:31.140 dollars they're going to be like well where is the d and blah blah blah and it will never end for

00:21:36.020 them so they're just like we'll figure out a way of helping out yeah jordan's comment i like this

00:21:41.140 one i once had a guy tell me something didn't happen because it wasn't on the cbc news website

00:21:44.820 i don't know how many times i think i've done this tweet like three to five times in the last two

00:21:48.420 years where a story has come out like a rather big story and i go like okay it's been 24 hours

00:21:54.900 and it's not on the cbc news website all right i i've made that tweet a couple times where there's a

00:22:00.500 certain story i can't remember exactly which one's now but you can all you can all guess what type

00:22:05.380 here's a great one just alberto election it doesn't matter how many communists were

00:22:09.540 point out running for the ndb like open let's kill capitalists you know air india was an inside job

00:22:14.900 kind of stuff you all those people like calistanis communists all these other nut bars running for

00:22:19.780 the ndb couldn't get a single legacy media uh article out about it even if it was a conservative

00:22:25.220 like a quote-unquote conservative legacy media wouldn't even touch the story so you had to rely

00:22:29.220 on like the western standard and the national telegraph to cover it yeah like this is why i turned

00:22:33.460 independent media is important and you know it's one of the things i talked about like interesting

00:22:37.620 this weekend i was speaking at a conference um put on by a hindu organization um and you know

00:22:44.500 you know the point i made was like the types of discrimination hindus face in canada like yeah

00:22:50.100 they get it from all sides but like yeah there's some white people who might be mad at hindus and

00:22:54.580 indians being like oh they're brown and they go but i don't like them but that's few and far between

00:23:00.180 and everyone supports them there but you have these communities like the hindu community whose real

00:23:04.180 problem is again these calistanis and you know um jamaati islami uh proxy groups who are vandalizing

00:23:10.660 their temples so yeah we can all poo poo this and i think the the left uh poos and this but if you

00:23:16.340 like it's this weird world where you have the western stand in the national telegraph

00:23:20.180 we're the only ones covering these you know you can say crazy commies but also like hardcore

00:23:23.940 calistani radicals but these are the guys like vandalizing hindu temples if national telegraph

00:23:30.180 listeners if white national telegraph listeners right someone had a national telegraph hat on

00:23:35.540 vandalized a temple of some sort right anything that wasn't a church front page news cbc i am

00:23:43.460 personally responsible why it's personally responsible 45 000 years in jail right straight

00:23:49.460 off the bat but you have these instances where we actually live in a country where people's religious

00:23:54.580 temples are being attacked frequently like him temples are often vandalized with like uh whatever

00:24:01.300 whatever calistan stuff on them there's calistanis have like open posters calling for assassinations

00:24:06.900 of different people revenge killing glorifying the bomber of the of the air india thing and these are

00:24:12.100 just like the hardcore calisthenics and no one says anything about this and and who suffers but

00:24:17.620 you know it's not the the you know the lot the latte sipping um journalists at the cbc it's

00:24:23.940 everyday canadians or just happen to be hindu and you know it's one of the things that you know

00:24:30.180 legacy media doesn't want to talk about is sometimes within our diverse multicultural society some of

00:24:35.540 those multicultural cultures don't get along outside of canada and if we do nothing they're

00:24:40.660 not going to get along in canada but sorry i love this follow-up comment from jordan's amazing

00:24:44.980 some dude uh some some dude told me uh independent drillers can be trusted because they did it for the

00:24:50.420 money that's insane oh yeah no no it's all the cbc people are in it just for the passion yeah that's

00:24:55.940 why i do it that's why we basically do it for free and the cbc does it for a lot of money per year

00:25:00.660 it's because we like the money and they don't yeah because yeah we're just roll rolling in

00:25:05.220 rolling in dough and independent media like yeah you can like i'm sure yeah ben shapiro makes more

00:25:09.620 money than a cbc journalist fine but he also took the risk and like not everything works out and

00:25:13.940 like he built a company like oh my god this is so stupid it's it's just probably these guys these

00:25:18.180 people just like willingly they get more people who get this obnoxious moral satisfaction from

00:25:24.580 waving away arguments by saying well i didn't see that in the cbc it's just this smug stupid way of

00:25:30.100 just engaging in politics is that you know that my side and it like if you actually decode that it's

00:25:35.300 like my side didn't tell me that information was correct ergo you're wrong and it's that yeah it's

00:25:41.220 one of the things stupid it is i don't know if i see something in canada land or the tie or even a

00:25:47.540 legacy meal i don't immediately think it's wrong i'll look at it i will investigate the facts and

00:25:52.580 then i will find out they're wrong potentially and sometimes they're not wrong but there's something

00:25:57.060 that that tells certain people who really like feeling moderate and like they're the ones who

00:26:02.820 have the very socially acceptable in the middle kind of views who vote for the liberal party who likes

00:26:07.700 the idea of just you know like you know i base my my opinions on the facts and the established

00:26:14.740 experts and whatnot and if you're from the national telegraph well you're inherently wrong because

00:26:19.140 you're narratively wrong because independent media isn't in vogue ergo you're you're not correct

00:26:24.740 yeah like this is one of the big things in politics brain that i hate i always talk about how i hate when

00:26:28.580 people make like the only people just people disagree with me for two major reasons or three major reasons

00:26:35.300 right they're stupid they're too stupid to think like me they're inherently evil and their mendacity

00:26:44.020 and uh malicious thoughts have led them to somewhere i'm not or they're being paid to think that and

00:26:49.780 it's like there's people with different life experiences like i know liberal people who aren't like

00:26:55.460 paid to be liberal like no one's paid to yeah there are some political mercenaries they exist um

00:27:01.220 you know one guy who came to my mind um you know how much i don't like him but i think i blocked him

00:27:06.900 finally um they're they aren't tend they don't tend to get paid a lot very well they don't get paid like

00:27:11.460 these guys are losers like political mercenaries like do it like because they're not they're not making bank

00:27:15.140 it's not like they're making hundreds of millions of dollars just like saying you know things okay

00:27:20.100 there are some people i can think of that that do kind of ham it up but that's on all sides but

00:27:24.660 most people generally believe what they believe for the reasons close to why they say they believe

00:27:30.260 them and there are multiple ways of looking at the world everyone has different experiences you

00:27:34.900 grow up in different places people have different things you know your third grade teacher was the

00:27:39.060 absolute worst and a sociopath and that set you down in the life that might have led you to whatever

00:27:44.340 develop this idea about this and someone else's third grade teacher was great and blah blah blah so

00:27:49.460 one's a liberal one's like things happen but when you have i i just i just hate this mentality like

00:27:55.540 again it's sort of like oh everyone who isn't on my side is wrong because they're either stupid evil

00:28:00.500 or paid to think unlike me because i'm the greatest thinker ever and every you know it's the narcissism

00:28:08.260 okay well i just want to move topics on to the other one that we had bill c18 bill bill c18 is taking

00:28:14.500 up a lot of our time simply because it did come down even harder than when we had originally

00:28:19.700 scheduled this uh episode to air uh so i guess we're just going to talk uh i guess you want you

00:28:25.540 wanted to talk about the trudeau separation so i'll let you intro this because i don't want to i don't

00:28:29.540 want to disagree because this is where it's fun um well thank you everyone for coming and if you want

00:28:34.580 to take a look at the gifts and dough to make up we spend a lot of time on c18 because it's literally

00:28:38.260 ruining our lives um but here's here's a fun one um i got a real kick out of all the social

00:28:45.060 conservatives getting mad at justin trudeau like people making fun of trudeau for his divorce i

00:28:49.540 think we should be making justin fun of justin trudeau i think we should be making fun of his family

00:28:53.620 i don't think they're off limits um you know he did the thing where he's like don't come after

00:28:57.060 my family and then the next picture he posted with his son at barbie that's hilarious he's being

00:29:00.980 hilarious like we have to give trudeau some credit here is he's exactly kind of like donald trump

00:29:07.140 he's like the evil donald trump or the good donald trump depending on your perspective

00:29:10.500 they have the same flaws right they're both trolls they both have no empathy for anyone who disagrees

00:29:15.940 with them and just one's made to be a hero one's made to be a villain and this is justin it's like

00:29:20.420 legit hilarious so he he gets divorced from his wife and i think you can make fun of him and my big

00:29:26.020 reason to make fun of him is because what justin trudeau loves to do is he loves to or he likes to and

00:29:31.940 consistently leverages his own moral virtuosity to um interfere in your life and your family's life

00:29:39.940 and your personal decision making if he didn't do that if he had never sort of leveraged his i'm a

00:29:46.580 better feminist i'm a better father you guys are the cretins i'm the elite like if he didn't have

00:29:51.300 this mentality of like look at me i am a paragon of virtue then you know what leave his family out of

00:29:57.140 it right if he was sort of stephen harper-esque or john cretchen old-school politician like i go

00:30:01.700 do politics and he has some trouble at home like he treats in his wife okay i don't really care

00:30:06.500 but justin trudeau would often use this um as a club against people so i'm perfectly fine with

00:30:11.940 people making fun of him make fun of his ex-wife make fun of the fact that he probably has a a sexual

00:30:17.460 relationship with multiple cabinet ministers male and female um like that's that's always been the wrap

00:30:22.900 on him go ham and you know he's leaning into it he's like being a spiteful divorced dad just like

00:30:30.340 yo look at me i'm with the kid right now i think it's funny um i would say they they've probably been

00:30:36.020 separated frankly for over two years and they probably only met up every single time they needed

00:30:39.860 to do a photo op my only thing is like i don't want to like i don't know like cheapen divorce in a

00:30:46.420 certain sense that it's still a bad thing so that's why i don't really want to ever wade into it too much

00:30:50.820 i think if you ever talk about it it happens to justin trudeau what i if i was to ever criticize

00:30:57.060 him or talk about it i would talk about it from more of this perspective of his image

00:31:01.620 while not bringing up his family i think it's more so the only thing i had a problem with it

00:31:05.380 is when people started almost like mocking the family as instead of mocking trudeau himself

00:31:10.980 because i would go at it from the angle that he's an incredibly fake person and this is why it

00:31:16.260 kind of matters because it does expose the fact that every single thing he says about himself

00:31:20.500 is effectively a false narrative he's not actually probably that he's probably not a fantastic

00:31:26.340 father he's very much everything he does is very put on and whatnot so whereas i'm not really i think

00:31:32.820 that i think people tactically end up messing up when they go after the family and start kind of making

00:31:38.100 fun of not just trudeau but making fun of the family for it because then liberals or moderates can

00:31:43.460 look at and say look at them mocking this man in his time of crisis because most people are do not

00:31:48.020 realize that trudeau probably doesn't even care he probably hasn't cared about whether they get

00:31:51.940 separated or not for the past five years well this is why it's like kind of so brilliant by

00:31:56.020 judo's thing is like he's baiting people into like attacking his family by like dangling them in front

00:32:00.740 of him but for me it's like i'm not gonna go out like this is why i support all mockery of trudeau

00:32:05.860 his family his wife his ex-wife his kids his dead father both the communist one and the less communist

00:32:12.420 one like all of it's fair game all of it is fair game because trudeau's dangling in front of you

00:32:17.300 trying to make you do it so i'm not going to participate in this media game where like it's

00:32:21.220 conservatives were like someone in the comment section says something too racy about justin

00:32:26.100 trudeau and we're like no we don't support that no because you're playing their game like this is the

00:32:30.660 game trudeau wants to play so let him dangle his family you know make fun of his kids every time

00:32:35.700 you post them like i don't care because he was he's the leader he's the prime minister and he's

00:32:40.260 leverage himself his family his ideals at all times to interfere in your life and and i'll put

00:32:49.860 it i'll put it this way as soon as he posted he's a national issue okay because he's made it so

00:32:55.460 so at least i'll give you that he made it open season as soon as he posted the stupid barbie tweet

00:33:01.940 and uh facebook post as soon as he did that then you could make fun of him because he turned into

00:33:07.540 uh he turned into prince harry and megan markle saying we desperately want our privacy leave us

00:33:12.340 alone don't follow us into this barbie theater and make fun of us for wearing pink and being stupid

00:33:16.900 like that was a little that was obviously now he just desperately wants attention although i will

00:33:22.260 also say i think a lot of people got baited into the barbie post because i think he posted that purely

00:33:27.780 to get people angry where a lot of people thought we've now exposed him because he went to barbie like

00:33:32.340 he posted the photo himself he wants you to mock him because i think he's trying to reactivate his

00:33:36.980 liberal base on social media to come and defend him so yeah that's so clearly what he's doing it's

00:33:41.860 so clear what he's doing which is why i'm not gonna like be like oh no people mock just and true i'm

00:33:47.140 like no he should be mocked it's a good thing we should walk him more and i'm gonna double down

00:33:52.740 on mocking him and if anyone calls me out and doubling down there's only one thing i can do

00:33:56.900 that's triple down yeah well you're the professional comedian so i'll leave you to that because that is

00:34:00.980 technically your job description so that's my job yeah is since since we've been c18 i've been going

00:34:08.100 i was if you guys don't know this about me prior to 2016 um so like uh i was a stand-up comedian i

00:34:14.980 started in 2012 um and then i met an iranian refugee what was prime minister we're like society's gonna

00:34:20.900 collapse right and then the trump thing happened and i started making daniel's jewish and he wasn't

00:34:25.300 a doctor or a lawyer so he was forced to become a comedian they actually came to his house and they

00:34:29.140 said you're gonna have to start being funny well we drew straws my older brother got doctor my

00:34:33.140 younger brother got lawyer i got comedian so i was forced into at a young age where i wanted to go to

00:34:38.340 medical school i'd be like mommy daddy give me the science books and they'd be like no here's a dvd

00:34:43.700 of dave chappelle watch it i'm like can i do my homework can i do the math no watch this you do here's

00:34:50.820 dane cook you'll like him here's dane cook doing stuff so that's how i was raised um by parents who

00:34:56.340 forced me to at gunpoint in canada no um yeah so i i you know once uh i i i'm old friends with ben

00:35:04.580 bankus and i started in calming together if you know ben um and we started you know i've been doing

00:35:10.180 more comedy um because you know news is now being made illegal so i have to go back into comedy and

00:35:16.500 like so i spent my nights doing comedy and getting back into that and i'm gonna try and merge them

00:35:21.780 together in some way um we're gonna we're gonna figure this out but uh you know again this is what

00:35:27.460 bill c18 is forcing me to do is like all right screw it gotta get back to doing stage time and

00:35:34.340 telling people jokes and big shout out and thank you to bet for ben bankus for allowing me to you know

00:35:40.100 skip the line when getting back in and um going into it but yeah so that that's been my life is i've

00:35:46.420 been i've been getting back into stand-up comedy um because uh well news is illegal jokes will be

00:35:52.660 made illegal in like two years but we got a few we got it we got a few years well i'm still allowed

00:35:57.060 to do something um i think uh bj makes a good point uh you know this is this is a classic national

00:36:06.100 telegraph point um that i think the three of us agree on the conservatives are experts at losing

00:36:10.500 elections because they always step into uh the liberal frame and try to win the argument will they do

00:36:15.140 the same next election and the answer is yes they will because they can't help themselves well i

00:36:20.180 honestly these days i think they're actually managing their affairs quite a bit better in the

00:36:25.220 sense that they wouldn't be having this 10 point lead from multiple polling companies right now

00:36:29.860 if they weren't at least shutting up and not not jumping all over themselves to try and

00:36:35.380 what i will say here i think they're playing i think they understand that playing too because i think

00:36:40.660 that i think the erin o'toole loss was so dramatically against the red tory narrative

00:36:47.140 that i think that even though they're not exactly becoming you know hardcore republican style

00:36:51.700 conservatives these days i think they understand that there's certain things that you don't say and

00:36:56.340 you like you there's certain things you don't say and there's certain narratives and are and

00:37:00.100 debates you don't wade into if you actually want to win an election you do not when the when the

00:37:05.140 when the liberal like media comes to you and basically tries to make you jump through all

00:37:09.460 the climate change hoops you just ignore them because it's never you're never going to win

00:37:13.300 that game same thing with a lot of the other progressive stuff you're never going to out

00:37:16.580 progress of the liberals so don't bother and that's where you have a lot more conservatives

00:37:20.500 now stepping up and supporting people like premier blaine higgs in new brunswick they understand that

00:37:25.140 his fight for parental rights is actually winning far more voters than uh then then kind of

00:37:31.140 doing this sort of half-hearted well you know blaine higgs can do what he wants and that's

00:37:35.700 his provincial right but we support children of any like orientation and stuff like that it's just

00:37:41.780 like it's not stop it you just support the parental rights 98 of canadians are in favor of parental

00:37:47.460 rights trying to fight over that two percent is ridiculous so just get out of that sort of stupid

00:37:53.380 framework play to your base that's how the liberals when they play to their base and they grow their

00:37:58.180 base by pleasing those people yeah so i'll i'll i'll i'll add to my answer reformed it i you know

00:38:04.420 i said yes because i'm just so fed up with the conservative party now what bj described is the

00:38:08.980 erin o'toole policy of losing losership um he's not the first person to do it we've both written

00:38:13.460 articles in the myth of red tory mass appeal in in some ways from different angles over the years

00:38:19.380 what i like about pierre politically speaking as you know um someone if you're on the blue team with

00:38:26.420 the cold analytical mind to just win this pierre has a skill i've always said to make his own

00:38:33.060 narrative in a way right pierre can make a five minute youtube video facebook video twitter video

00:38:37.780 whatever that's interesting you saw his wife put out a video today that went kind of viral you know

00:38:42.420 pierre has the videos where he talked about housing or inflation or this or that pierre has a skill to

00:38:49.140 drive conversation around points he's making that that are political so he has a tool that no other

00:38:56.180 conservative leader has had in a while so he at least has the tools available to do this uh so i

00:39:02.660 don't think it will be as bad as erin o'toole honestly aero tools like the far end of the spectrum

00:39:07.060 of how bad it can be and pierre might be the the slightly close to the other end of the spectrum just

00:39:11.540 how good it can be um now there's a severe limit here right i'm not saying here is the greatest

00:39:16.740 politician i've ever seen i'm saying he's probably the best you can ask for what he's doing much

00:39:21.380 differently than erin o'toole and this is the problem with even harper and sheer in their

00:39:25.620 elections too harper in 2015 shared in 2019 is that you couldn't really name the narrative that

00:39:30.660 the conservatives were running on in any of those previous elections especially erin o'toole like you

00:39:35.940 couldn't say why you should vote conservative other than the liberals aren't very good vote for

00:39:39.860 conservative and that's not compelling as dumb as it is in 2015 the sunny ways narrative or the sunny

00:39:46.740 ways slogan from justin trudeau is is genius in the sense that it's dirt it's like just dirt simple

00:39:54.100 it is positive and it implies that the conservatives are dark shady and insular by saying sunny ways

00:40:00.340 i'm gonna bring the sunlight blah blah whereas like erin o'toole saying secure the future oh goodness

00:40:06.100 like i i will literally i do i literally like i'm having aversion to securing the future now i do not

00:40:12.260 want the future to be secure in any way i want things to be more dangerous and anarchic because

00:40:17.060 that is the worst slogan i've ever heard in my life and it's the same thing with with harper in 2015

00:40:22.980 you couldn't really say why you should vote to keep the conservatives in government basically saying

00:40:27.060 we've done a decent job the other guys aren't very good and it's like that wasn't compelling

00:40:32.660 2011 the just visiting narrative about ignatiev coming to basically like steal away the prime

00:40:37.380 ministership that was brilliant that worked extremely well and it basically it like and the

00:40:42.180 thing is that the just visiting it implies that then on the on the collect on the converse side

00:40:48.820 the liberal the the conservatives are here to stay that's the sort of thing that every slogan has a

00:40:54.100 good inverse that is good too that's not spoken so just visiting the inverse to that is worse here to

00:40:59.940 stay and right now with the whole with the uh with like i don't think the the conservatives haven't

00:41:05.700 really settled on a slogan i love yet at the same time the narrative that pure poly of his setting

00:41:10.740 is sort of like the let's get back to you know putting individuals before the government whereas

00:41:16.340 justin true you couldn't name what narrative he has to be able to run a run on during an election

00:41:21.380 it's basically just like the conservatives are scary we're not that bad like you need to run on

00:41:25.620 something and like yeah attacks are part of it but again attacks are much more effective in america

00:41:29.620 than they are in canada this is a well-known political fact attack ads are much higher risk

00:41:36.740 and lower reward in canada that's just the way it is not saying you won't see them but in order to

00:41:42.900 when you do need to build a positive narrative of yourself this is one of the big things we've always

00:41:47.620 criticized the ppc on is the ppc is just running around throwing haymakers everywhere and the ppc actually

00:41:54.580 does the best um when they build their own narratives like and the data i always does in that is look at

00:41:59.540 max's first debate he was doing the best when everyone was attacking him and he was defending

00:42:04.340 himself and building up the ppc and then he started to dip when he went on the attack and started talking

00:42:08.980 about you know dairy pricing and going after andrew sheer on an on such an esoteric issue that only i

00:42:14.340 cared about um and this is sort of where the liberals are where the liberals are kind of just in the

00:42:19.620 stephen harper or new conservative bad conservatives bad we good

00:42:22.740 um well and you can even see them jumping around to stupid issues like katie telford trying to say

00:42:27.140 that all conservatives are now uh like anti-abortion and i'm pro-life i'd like that they were all pro-life

00:42:32.340 but obviously they're not but katie telford saying there's literally not a single pro-choice conservative

00:42:37.220 because they voted on for bill c 311 which makes it like they which allows like uh i think it was

00:42:43.940 sentencing upgrades if you like punch a pregnant woman in the stomach or assault a pregnant bill on the

00:42:49.460 planet it doesn't even say abortion in the bill they're saying uh the conservative abortion if

00:42:54.740 if you assault a pregnant woman that could be an aggregate aggravating factor and say like if you

00:43:00.580 brutally beat the hell out of an eight month uh eight month pregnant lady and the baby dies um that

00:43:06.500 could be an aggravated factor in sentencing you it's not just assault one person which is

00:43:11.940 reasonable but again you see just the demented nature of the modern left and then this goes back

00:43:16.500 to the problem of the media like how could a function like you can't really get away with

00:43:21.940 a lie of that magnitude well you can now in america so polarized but you know let's say 10 years ago you

00:43:27.940 couldn't pull that off in america because people at least watch fox news and you'd be giving your

00:43:32.260 enemies in fox news an easy layup to throw back in your face so that was a big reason why not to lie

00:43:38.100 on cnn and what kind of kept cnn a bit more sane 10 years ago 10 15 years ago would be the if they

00:43:46.500 just try to outright lie about something like the don't say gay bill which never says that you know

00:43:51.620 they knew that fox news would do an expose on cnn lies don't say gay and people would see it because

00:43:58.340 there's a large television audience and it's it's harder to take a dismissive attitude from cnn to

00:44:04.900 fox news than it is from you know cnn to the daily wire because they're on the same medium right cnn can

00:44:12.260 poopoo online media and cbc could be like oh national telegraph all this thing that's online

00:44:16.900 we're a real news outlet that's just over there on the internet that's not a real one right but you

00:44:21.780 had in america a cable television network with anchors and cameras and people on the streets and this

00:44:28.900 and that and they had a different perspective so it kind of kept you in line like you had to be

00:44:34.660 better than fox news in a way and we've never really had that in canada so we've had this

00:44:39.460 polarization and this is another problem of of people just going hard into their echo chambers

00:44:43.700 where now cnn feels totally confident just making up because they know anyone who watches cnn

00:44:49.940 on principle will never watch fox news and also on principle will instantly um disagree with anything

00:44:56.980 they see on fox news or be heavily skeptical of anything that comes off of fox news like they they

00:45:01.780 know that most people if they are not fox news watchers um would not be convinced from a detailed

00:45:08.580 factual explanation of something on fox news and that's you know that's where and i guess uh

00:45:14.820 maybe from there we'll move on to just talking about jagmeet singh and the homophobia lie because i

00:45:20.420 feel like this one's a bit of a funny story to end off on since we usually only go for an hour in our

00:45:24.420 45 minute mark and just to lead us in because i have the video already uploaded i'm just going to

00:45:28.740 quickly play the video of jagmeet singh calling a random passerby heckler a homophobe

00:45:42.980 there you go so this became a story where the the media backed up jagmeet singh's assertion that

00:46:05.460 somehow that the uh the driver of that card and i can if you like if you listen to it multiple times

00:46:10.260 i think i've heard things in that what the guy was yelling that you could maybe construe in a way

00:46:16.180 that's like rude or whatever the homophobic things just deeply stupid yeah i mean you can't hear what

00:46:22.740 he said maybe he called him gay or another word for it um and then you could say okay maybe so you don't

00:46:28.900 hear it but for me it's the you're right the media couldn't hear it we couldn't hear it and they went

00:46:35.540 along with jagmeet singh lie and i have seen instances specifically jagmeet singh related where

00:46:40.980 they've called people racist for going to protest jagmeet singh and i've seen those racist people

00:46:46.020 wearing turbans um as believing sikhs you know giving him uh trouble for anything from sucking at

00:46:53.140 his job to and you know allowing the calistanis to run amok um and these are sikhs criticizing jagmeet

00:46:58.820 singh for being bad at his job and i've seen them called racist right um people and jagmeet's a sikh

00:47:05.940 these guys are sikhs they're all canadians they're having a canadian they're he's a leader of a

00:47:11.700 federal party i've seen them criticize him uh pretty harshly and be called racist for it so

00:47:17.780 there's no reason for me to believe let's even let's even just take it from this angle let's pretend

00:47:22.500 the guy fully said something like you're gay trudeau's gay and that's why you're supporting him blah blah

00:47:27.620 blah and it's like maybe maybe people don't like you and they're saying incredibly rude things

00:47:34.260 because you're bad at your job maybe have you ever thought about that that just that jagmeet

00:47:38.980 singh is taking some flack because he doesn't he rubber stamps every single thing that justin

00:47:44.020 trudeau does that's never in any of the media coverage that people are increasingly criticizing

00:47:49.140 jagmeet singh because he is a liberal enabler that never shows up they always treat him as if he's

00:47:54.180 just acting in pure good faith and a lot of the stuff he's doing isn't just purely because he's

00:47:57.780 terrified of justin trudeau yeah i mean this is that's the question is everyone's mad at jagmeet

00:48:03.460 saying no one likes him um you know outside of you know his current spouse and just justin trudeau

00:48:11.700 um see people are giving trudeau trouble for for failing in his marriage but they don't realize he

00:48:17.220 has one successful marriage going on right now to jagmeet so you know uh tone it down people right

00:48:23.780 he's been great i just want to quickly bring up to just the polling numbers that we've been seeing

00:48:28.100 and this one is this is one of the ones where the liberals uh the conservatives are only up by nine

00:48:32.660 points on the liberals we already have two other polls that show them up 10 points but i always find

00:48:37.540 the the insane thing is how the ndp and a lot of these polls are literally down from their 2021 numbers

00:48:44.740 imagine being jagmeet singh having literally the liberals bleeding out on the floor in front of you

00:48:50.900 bleeding all their support and somehow you managed to also shoot yourself in the foot and you're on

00:48:55.220 the floor bleeding out too there's nothing here that should be causing the ndp to lose support unless

00:49:00.180 they just simply choose to lose support there's another there's another thing that's so crazy here

00:49:04.580 that if you put up the chart and people might say think oh this is just a that looks like a one or two

00:49:10.100 percent drop for the one percent drop the ndp okay one percent drop that's not statistically

00:49:14.580 statistically significant um it's actually a much bigger than one percent because the thing with the ndp is

00:49:20.660 they traditionally hole above where they end up getting in the votes right you saw this in 2021

00:49:27.380 the ndp were polling much higher then when it came down to it a lot of ndp supporters went you know what

00:49:32.260 i don't want the conservatives in government all vote liberal well they yeah like you they were 22

00:49:37.780 they could even grab up a 25 every once in a while in the 2021 election and so on average i'd say they

00:49:43.220 usually pull three or four points lower than they pull or this or not they pull through that they pull in

00:49:48.740 three or four point percent less voters on election day than they pull and and again it's the same

00:49:54.020 thing with the ppc these days is that the ppc still actually pulls around four or five percent in some

00:49:59.140 cases and all these by-elections we've been seeing them at just one percent just flat one percent or like

00:50:04.740 one and a half percent and it's because smaller parties tend to just you know are overrepresented in

00:50:10.020 polling because they tend to have the more engaged supporters that if you're a green party or a ppc or

00:50:15.460 an ndp supporter there's no you're not you know you're not a confused voter that you definitely

00:50:20.980 know what you want because you will look for the most obscure thing to vote for and but again with

00:50:26.580 with jagmeet singh if you want to be successful just hold trudeau's feet to the fire threaten

00:50:30.900 federal elections all the time because it's not like jagmeet singh's waiting to become prime minister

00:50:34.820 he's never going to become prime minister so when the getting's good you should get as much as you can

00:50:39.140 if you're from i don't want the ndp to succeed their policy would somehow be worse than the liberals

00:50:43.700 but it frustrates me as a conservative that he can they can't he can't properly take advantage of

00:50:49.620 a situation that when the liberals are handing you everything that you that when the liberals could be

00:50:54.740 handing you everything you want because you have them over a barrel jagmeet sings the one who's more

00:50:59.220 scared of justin trudeau still yeah and the other thing with this the good news for conservative

00:51:04.420 party supporters is as i said a lot of ndp polling support it's built up your people in small parties

00:51:12.180 more motivated they more clear on what they want they know who they are they might be more voted

00:51:15.620 motivated to stick to the end of a poll just to say ppc to help the ppc because it's small and it

00:51:20.980 needs your help whereas if you're a conservative voter you're like okay the party doesn't need my

00:51:24.820 help i have i don't want to talk to this idiot for 10 minutes click um we have that might be more

00:51:29.300 the mentality but the other thing is the ndp will always bleed into the liberal vote when it comes around

00:51:36.420 for election time like that's something you have to count on and the smaller the ndp thing is so

00:51:42.660 right so last election we had maybe 22 to 25 percent and that bled down a bit of that into the liberals

00:51:49.060 and helped push all over the conservatives if the if the ndp is at 16 right now not all like most of

00:51:56.340 those 16 percent to vote most people say they're going to vote ndp vote ndp there is a small portion

00:52:00.740 of them who will then switch the liberals late game but this is an even smaller portion of them like this

00:52:05.860 is at most two percent um at very most can shift in and that's not going to right at a nine point

00:52:12.100 gap which is the smallest we've seen you know this makes it a seven point gap like there isn't the

00:52:17.220 numbers there like liberal and ndp combined there aren't enough numbers there for the liberals to pull

00:52:23.300 out a victory which is why you see the projections at 90 chance of conservatives winning with that being

00:52:28.660 basically a 50 50 among majority minority now whereas the majority government polling was at like

00:52:34.420 around equal for both parties back in the day like it was like number one was conservative uh minority

00:52:40.180 that was like the big chance and then liberal majority and liberal and conservative majority

00:52:44.740 were like neck and neck because the liberals have a better vote distribution based on the map

00:52:48.820 and the the writing system just whatever but we're now seeing the gaps getting so bad that a lot of

00:52:53.220 those writings are now just flipping so oh and when you actually look at the polling when you look

00:52:57.540 at provinces that the liberals hold a lead in and i know there's provinces like uh it was like on some

00:53:03.300 of the i forget which province it was i guess it's like quebec or there's one of these other ones where

00:53:07.220 the liberals came in third but they won like the most uh seats or something like that or they almost

00:53:11.220 won the most seats or whatever it doesn't matter but uh but like when you look at most like provinces

00:53:15.300 i think it's only the atlantic provinces as a whole that the liberals have like a one percent

00:53:19.380 lead in at the moment it's literally only a one percent lead and i guarantee that's mostly a lead

00:53:23.060 leading heavily on pei and newfoundland right now they don't even have a lead in quebec they lead

00:53:28.900 the conservatives in quebec but the bloc leads them by four percent in quebec that's deeply pathetic

00:53:34.420 and that's where even if the ndp doesn't even if the ndp falls in their vote the thing is that the

00:53:40.100 ndp are probably going to fall in all the areas that they were never going to win in the first place

00:53:43.620 they're probably going to lose a bunch of their rural voters who are who traditionally might support

00:53:47.460 them because they vote ndp provincially but they'll probably keep their urban support around

00:53:51.540 vancouver because those people are the most dogmatic ndp supporters and that's where you're

00:53:55.700 going to see when there's a lot of liberals who switch conservative or when there's some other

00:53:59.780 people and there's union voters who leave the ndp and go join the conservatives you're going to see

00:54:03.860 the ndp and liberals vote splitting so hard that there's going to be entire cities where you probably

00:54:08.740 didn't think that the conservatives could win more than maybe like a fifth of the seats where they

00:54:12.340 might be able to win half of them uh like that's definitely going to be the situation in the gta

00:54:16.740 this time a lot of the seats even with erin o'toole's incompetence they're within three percent

00:54:22.020 that some of them are not that we're not that unwinnable it's just that erin o'toole just does

00:54:25.860 a terrible job driving at the base but like to jump back to the ndp like man who is the ndp made for

00:54:31.700 these days i couldn't name a single person who'd be interested in voting for the ndp other than

00:54:36.340 someone who's like part of a a university student union that's pretty much yeah i was about to

00:54:40.980 i was about to create i was about to create an ndp voter that made sense and you beat me to it but

00:54:45.860 like the ndp the modern ndp voter is left-leaning um not very um they're not very let's say aware of

00:54:56.340 facts but they're very aware of issues so they care very deeply they went to university they have a

00:55:01.780 surface level um impulse to care about these causes they might follow some political tick-tockers

00:55:08.260 right so you get your politics off tick tock which is like music and being like homeless people

00:55:13.700 don't have homes oh no rich people have homes we should give money to the homeless like that's

00:55:20.100 that's tick tock politics right so if you if this is what you do and then you have this mentality that

00:55:25.540 oh the liberals are establishment you just fall into this thing oh the establishment like i'm a real

00:55:29.780 left-winger i'm a real socialist i know literally none of the things i'm voting ndp so it's it's a part

00:55:37.540 it becomes an aesthetic i've heard but feel like they do i think it's like uh it's like effectively

00:55:47.220 they're it's like how the a lot of blue collar and this is what we what we literally see in the

00:55:51.540 polling blue collar union members are actually mostly voting for the conservatives now or a

00:55:56.500 plurality of them are voting conservative i think it's like destroyed destroyed the

00:56:00.340 36 the union that's why i'll always love jagmeet like people think i hate trudeau and jagmeet but

00:56:05.780 i'm a big jagmeet singh fan because i hate the ndp and no one's done a better job at destroying the ndp

00:56:10.580 than jagmeet but but the union the union voters that jagmeet singh now wins other than the student union

00:56:16.820 voters which i'm kind of joking about is it's like kids who say they support unions those are the union

00:56:22.260 voters that they win is kids who are deeply and when i say kids i mean 28 year olds who are still act like

00:56:28.340 children but these like these young adults who think that they care about the labor movement you

00:56:33.620 know girls who have their heads shaved guys who wear backpacks into their 40s those are the people who

00:56:39.540 like really deeply care about the labor movement who vote ndp even if if they talk to a single blue

00:56:45.460 collar worker those people would call them morons and they would say i'm voting for pierre because

00:56:49.700 he doesn't like you know insult my family because the thing the problem the funny uh the funny sort of

00:56:55.540 high wire act that the ndp was always sort of doing was that they are the super hyper progressive

00:57:02.340 social party at the same time most of their voters are people from ethnic groups that are

00:57:07.300 very socially conservative or blue collar workers who would get canceled if the left actually showed

00:57:12.100 up to construction sites that's the thing is that and now they basically said all those people

00:57:16.740 are awful and terrible and they should leave them alone so now they're just trapped with the

00:57:19.700 people who larp as revolutionaries yeah i mean yeah larp people who larp as revolutionaries is is

00:57:26.820 is probably the the largest base um uh for the ndp right now yeah it's like i care more than you

00:57:34.900 crowd where i i think i could even see i i know liberals who don't like ndp voters because they're

00:57:39.220 basically liberals are kind of sanctimonious about the issues they care about nd peers are basically just

00:57:43.940 like the puritans of it of like walking into the room and saying that they care more about

00:57:46.980 homeless than everyone homelessness than everyone else i'm willing to kill the rich for for

00:57:50.980 homelessness like cool dude yeah that's yeah i think yeah that's that's the support by the ndp

00:57:58.180 and you're right like these and i think there's going to be a big wake up especially in these

00:58:02.900 communities like this intersectional critical race theory stuff there's only a few fringe groups

00:58:08.100 who benefit from it right like there's there's like the the the diversity officer the kenji thompson

00:58:14.660 woman who got the guy to commit suicide you can say like yeah black canadians and i'm not to mind

00:58:20.500 you know black people here but you can you could see i'm just saying you could say okay if i'm a

00:58:23.860 black canadian you could say okay i could benefit from this critical race theory stuff i just claim

00:58:28.500 everything's racism and this and that and there's not a lot of you know pushback there right okay um and

00:58:34.740 then you know uh you you could get other ones but other than that like you start to see like a

00:58:40.100 muslim was very in vogue for the um intersectional crowd until you know liberals found out that the

00:58:46.500 quran doesn't say muhammad was a non-binary polyamorous um you know person with her kin account like you

00:58:55.780 you know the quran says the same thing about gays that every other religion does and they're starting

00:59:00.900 to learn this so we're seeing a big push at that community as i brought up before the hindu community

00:59:05.540 they get attacked by calistanis and islamists all the time and no one says anything they don't

00:59:09.460 benefit jews we don't benefit from the intersectional stuff we same thing as indus

00:59:14.020 right we get attacked by lefties and islamists right-wing people too but you know the bigger ones

00:59:19.380 are the communists and the islamists who come after us we don't benefit from intersectionality

00:59:23.700 in fact we get hurt by it more and there's it only the this thing really appeals to you know the

00:59:33.460 whitewashed second generation immigrants whose parents didn't really teach them about their

00:59:38.980 culture so they just adopt this new thing to fit in um but that's a fleeting fan base because a lot

00:59:44.740 of those people grow up and grow out of it and you know it eats itself you've seen this where

00:59:51.700 you you can't you know you can't put you know i think someone had a good joke was it but i you know

01:00:00.820 i i mean it's easy to joke about like the the this stuff um where you see like you know all of a sudden

01:00:07.460 yeah the the the the muslim groups and the lgbtq is that groups yeah they're not you know they're not uh

01:00:16.660 not not not not not well it's it's it's it's going back to what i said it's just that the

01:00:23.140 a lot of liberal ideology relies on a lot of contradictions being held without being noticed

01:00:28.740 and now that there's certain things that are forcing them to sort of notice that their

01:00:32.020 intersectional coalition doesn't exactly get along for good reasons in a lot of cases you know muslim

01:00:37.540 parents do care about parental rights and of one side of and like and but the left which is funny is that

01:00:42.340 they are literally backing the sort of elements in their intersectional coalition who want to

01:00:47.300 basically cram down on the other ones so they're backing the ones that are being most divisive because

01:00:52.260 you know that because they're deeply afraid of those that group of people even if the in the

01:00:56.820 intersectional stack that they have the sort of like radical social activists the radical progressive

01:01:04.180 social activists are actually probably the smallest portion of the liberal base any ethnic group

01:01:08.660 probably outweighs them in terms of the vote because it turns out most canadians are not social

01:01:12.900 progressives that are like that that like you know like you know point their fingers at people like

01:01:17.060 why are you a bigot blah blah free speech is like the code for nazism blah blah those people are not

01:01:22.260 very popular with most people yet the liberals are most terrified of them because they think other

01:01:26.660 people should be terrified of them yeah all right and uh i think that brings us to that we've done an hour

01:01:33.140 this week we will be back next week we want to i think thursdays is probably a good day for this

01:01:38.740 yeah we'll probably always be a tuesday thursday kind of a thing but i just want to be able to make

01:01:43.300 sure to plug it again uh we just have a give send go i'm just throwing the link in the chat right now

01:01:47.620 just to be able to fund the national telegraph bill c18 is going to severely impact our ability to get

01:01:52.260 our news in front of people and have our ads viewed so that we're effectively getting no money

01:01:56.500 because of justin trudeau so if you can just throw 5 20 50 into the into the pot that really helps

01:02:03.460 maintain all of our websites and our lists because even just to maintain our email list so that we can

01:02:08.740 keep people updated with our content that costs us around 150 a month so it's not one of those things

01:02:14.420 where i'm just like give us five bucks and then i'm like you know i'm somehow raking it in somewhere

01:02:19.140 else or i have no cost so why do i need money we actually do have quite uh steep costs and i love how

01:02:24.580 we got we did a gifts and go which is very christian and they gave us the um the url gay4k yeah this is

01:02:30.500 this is yeah all right this is gay content in 4k yeah so you know that if you listen if you're

01:02:38.020 worried about the canadian government coming after you for donating on gifts and go to the national

01:02:42.420 telegraph don't say that say you donated to gay4k and they'll give you the medal of honor or whatever

01:02:47.620 the order of canada so guys give us money get the medal of honor and we'll see you back here

01:02:53.380 next week at the same bat time and same bat place but i'll probably be in a different location

01:02:58.020 so disregard what everything i'm slightly different bad place but yeah but jagmeet singh will still

01:03:03.060 be an idiot so there's a there's a constant in your life there so anyways we'll see you all next week

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - August 09, 2023

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