Trouble in Paradise for Carney - Liberal Infighting and poor performance!
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Wyatt Claypool talks about why Mark Carney is getting under a lot of people s skin, and why the Liberal Party is already getting tired of him. He also talks about the infighting in the cabinet, and what it means for the future of the party.
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Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. If there is going to be an election in the year 2026, you don't want
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to be Prime Minister Mark Carney or the Liberals going into it. This doesn't mean the Liberals
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couldn't win another election in the year 2026. Frankly, the Liberals and Conservatives always
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have a chance of winning because they're the top two parties. But Carney used to actually be doing
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quite well a couple of months ago. His approval ratings were good, the Liberals had a five to
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six-point lead over the Conservatives and most of the pollsters. But now we've had polls come out
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from six different pollsters showing the Liberals are sliding and Mark Carney's personal approval
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rating is also sliding, which was kind of shocking to me because I always saw him as a figure who's
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probably always going to be somewhat popular because he's so boring you can't really hate him.
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Trudeau was very easy to hate. He's a larger-than-life personality that demands that you
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absolutely love him or you hate his guts. And by the end of his term as Prime Minister,
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everyone had pretty much concluded that they hate his guts. But Carney's mediocre performance,
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I think, is actually getting under a lot of people's skin right now. But we are not here
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to talk about the polling. The polling is probably already undermining the Liberals' confidence in being
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able to win another election. But the news today is even worse because they were sliding before a bunch
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of this news came out. Liberal infighting, bad economic numbers, and it doesn't matter what the spin
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in the media is, they're not going to be able to make Canadians just put up with more mediocre
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garbage from their government. Trudeau was bad, but on an average date, he was just kind of mediocre.
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He just didn't get anything good done. Yeah, there was a lot of bad stuff happening, but the bad stuff was
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kind of happening slowly over time. Most governments are so incompetent, things are always
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blowing up. And if you look at it from that lens, Carney is very much like Justin Trudeau. It's just
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mediocre and somewhat negative every single day, and as it goes on longer and longer, it really gets
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under people's skin. But Canadians are kind of trained at this point to not put up with this,
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because they already had 10 years of it with Trudeau, and they're not going to have 10 years of it
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with Mark Carney again. Anyways, we're about to get into some of these news stories. We're going to
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start off with the infighting, but before I get to it, I just want to remind you guys, I now have a
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subscribers and unimportant subscribers. But now let's get into this interview that he did with
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Rosemary Barton. They've been kind of putting out clips of it as time goes on. This section is about
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Mark Carney calling Stephen Gilboa a liar over Stephen Gilboa, saying that he was surprised by
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him signing that Memorandum of Understanding with Alberta Premier Danielle Smith.
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Yes, I think there's, well, it's not for me to judge. There are some people who were here
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under previous governments, previous situations, they can judge the degree of delegation.
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What will come with that is that people won't always say the same thing and talking, but that's
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great. That's fine. That's healthy. You know, that's normal life. People don't all say the same
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thing at the same time. But that is the challenging part of the job. Is it not that sometimes you have
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people who are not happy with what you're doing, openly critical of it, willing to walk away from
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the cabinet, for instance? Look, this is awkward, because again, the problem is, even though Rosemary
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Barton's a hack, eventually, even the CBC has to ask the obvious questions around people like Stephen
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Gilboa and Nate Erskine-Smith and Chrystia Freeland and Jonathan Wilkinson and other people being unhappy
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with how Mark Carney operates in government. And the funny thing with most of them is that they are
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criticizing Carney from his left. The thing is that the right flank of the Liberal Party is already
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kind of getting tired of him, what I call the business liberals. He's not doing good work for
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the economy. We're going to be getting to that a little bit later in this video. But even Mark Carney
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trying to pretend he's doing things for the economy is ticking off the green left of the liberals,
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that being mainly embodied by people like Erskine-Smith and Gilboa.
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Would I rather that, if we bring it back to Stephen Gilboa, for whom I have tremendous respect,
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would I rather he had stayed in cabinet? Yes. Would I rather he had been there to see
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what transpires with the Alberta MOU, to see our climate strategy come out, our nature strategy come
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out early in the new year, both of which will happen? Yes. So he will continue to inform that,
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but from farther away. If he's saying that he wishes he stuck around in cabinet to see
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how it was going to go, is he not kind of giving away the game a little bit, that Carney has no
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intention of getting a pipeline built? Because the only thing that would make Stephen Gilboa,
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you know, see and appreciate Carney's climate strategy is if no pipeline actually goes through.
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So he's almost acting like, Stephen, he didn't understand that I was lying, and he preemptively
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left. He thinks I'm some oil and gas guy, but if he only stuck around, he would understand exactly
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what I'm doing here. But I respect, look, I respect those decisions. And
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But if that was, if that was true, if you wanted him to stay in cabinet, why did you go about it the
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way you did? Because he didn't know the details. He did. He knew the details. So what, the things that
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are out there that he has said are not true? I don't know what he, I don't follow everything he says,
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but let's be very clear. He is, in fact, calling Stephen Gilboa a liar. Mark Carney, again, is not a
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more conservative prime minister in terms of his actual ideals and ideology. But he's more conservative
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in the way he like acts day to day. And I mean that at like, the most shallow level, he is more
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conservative. He makes everyone wear ties and dress shoes at work. He's somebody who doesn't want the
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activists right on the front bench. So Stephen Gilboa was in cabinet, but he was kind of second
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tier cabinet. You're going to be in charge of culture and languages. It wasn't even really the
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full ministry of culture. He was kind of given this like side role. He was borderline just a
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parliamentary secretary. And so he kind of shoved him over there because Stephen Gilboa is not the suit
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and tie and, you know, tailored suit kind of atmosphere that he wants. And by doing that,
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he ticked off Stephen Gilboa, just like he ticked off Nate Erskine-Smith by making him the housing
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minister prior to the election for only like a couple of weeks. I know he was technically at longer
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because he was the housing minister for the duration of the election, but you're not doing
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anything as cabinet minister during the election. He didn't even do anything prior to. And then he dumps
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Erskine-Smith after the election and he just made this stupid enemy out of nowhere. Now, I don't like
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Nate. Nate's a left-wing radical, but Carney in pursuing a cabinet full of people he aesthetically
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wants to be around, like what is it, Gregor Robertson as the new housing minister, even though he's a
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terrible failed Vancouver mayor. Awful on housing. He's the housing minister because I think it genuinely
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goes to, he kind of fits into Mark Carney's kind of fake business environment. His kind of,
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his fake business life of consultants and people who sit on boards and people who, you know, look
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like a professional. Where Erskine-Smith is the guy who walks around with rolled up sleeves and
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without a tie on and his shirt not buttoned up all the way. And Gilboa looks like some guy who's about
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to throw on a Mao jacket and some sort of Soviet hat or something and send people off to the gulags.
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So even though Carney is on the left, yes, he's like, even Trudeau, none of these people are
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radical left. That's still NDP, but they're left. But he's just like, Trudeau wanted to be around the
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more granola, greeny type liberals. And Carney came in and basically sidelined them, causing all this
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infighting. A lot of people are leaving because they're not being listened to anymore. And maybe
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that's a good thing, but they're not being replaced by anyone, anyone decent.
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He knew what was in the MOU. And elements of the MOU were changed consistent with his views.
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So once he saw the deal, you asked him for more input and were willing to change them?
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Okay. So then what is your understanding of what he wasn't happy with?
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Well, I asked Mr. Gilboa, but what did he tell you about things then? What were you not able to give him?
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Yeah. So it's probably that they just hate each other. And you can very clearly see that he's not
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comfortable talking about Stephen Gilboa because it is probably something where if he says too much,
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it's going to turn into a more hot war between the two. Stephen Gilboa was definitely not sticking
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around for four years. He's not going to be waiting until the end of his term. He already has his
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pension. It's more likely the guy's going to put on an orange jumpsuit and try and climb the CN Tower
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again. And he's going to stick around. And his riding's actually one that he has to be careful.
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Mark Carney has to be careful to not lose. Can a conservative pick up Stephen Gilboa's riding?
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Not in a thousand years. It is a riding where literally the conservatives don't even get 10%
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of the vote. But Stephen Gilboa's riding, prior to him occupying it, was NDP. And prior to that,
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it was Jill DeSapp, the Bloc Québécois leader's riding. So what's a riding that if Gilboa wants to
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screw over Carney while he's trying to cobble together a majority by trying to maybe entice
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some conservatives to cross the floor? If Stephen leaves and if Freeland leaves, her riding actually
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was NDP at one point. Jonathan Wilkins leaves. His riding used to be conservative alliance way
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back in the day. You know, enough that in the by-election, those people might show up and throw
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a conservative in. And there's a couple other areas like Nate Erskine-Smith. You could see an NDP
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winning that if the news cycle is bad for the liberals. So Carney's in a position where he's trying to get
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the majority by getting people to floor cross, which is kind of a Pyrrhic victory on his part.
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If you don't know the different terms for like victory, it's like, you know, a decisive victory
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is you won flat out. You know, if it was a war, your army took like 2% casualties and you absolutely
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decimated like 30% of the other armies of the other army and they fled into the forest and were
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completely broken up and shattered. You know, what Carney's doing with these floor crossings is a
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Pyrrhic victory. He is technically winning something. He is winning a conservative to come
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over and sit on his bench. At the same time, a lot of Canadians find it sleazy and undemocratic. Is it
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allowed? Yes, but it doesn't. You can't change the fact people feel it's undemocratic and they are
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actually disliking the liberals the more they do stuff like that. But now let's jump over to the
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economic news and then we will finish up with this really ridiculous segment on the CBC, which should go
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without saying, where they're trying to, again, pump up Mark Carney and avoid a bunch of the problems.
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But here's just a small clip from the CBC announcing a big fall on the GDP back in October.
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A new snapshot of the Canadian economy released today reveals it remains brittle in the face of
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trade tensions and tariffs. Statistics Canada says GDP numbers for October show the economy shrank by
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three tenths of one percent. It's the biggest decline in almost three years. The manufacturing sector
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decreased by one and a half percent, while wood manufacturing dropped over seven percent. In
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total, 11 out of 20 industries experienced a decline. Stay with us. You're watching CBC News
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Network. There's plenty more. This is something that we didn't talk about too much in detail during one
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of my last polling videos. But if you look where Carney is losing support federally with the liberals,
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it's in Ontario. That is the big area where the liberals are slipping down three, four, five points,
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and the conservatives and the NDP are gaining. It's these manufacturing towns that many of them
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went conservative in this last election. And now it looks like in places like Hamilton and an other
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place in the southwest of Ontario, the conservatives are going to clean up the rest of it, or even the
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NDP is going to capture a riding back from the liberals. The liberals are not in a super hot position
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on the economy. And this is where I'm saying the business liberals are mad at Carney. They're the
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people who they look at the economic numbers. And if they're bad, they leave. That's just how it
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works. They're not social conservatives. They're not cultural conservatives. They may not even be
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social liberals. They're just what you call business liberals, because as long as the liberals are
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injecting money into the economy and keeping it moving and keeping the stock market looking good,
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they'll stick with the liberals because it's a stable party. If the liberals stop making the economy
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stable, they leave. And that is the issue that they're experiencing. Business liberals are leaving
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and the green liberals are mad like Stephen Gilbeau and Nate Erskine-Smith. Carney, as I say a lot,
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has perfectly triangulated away for everyone to hate his guts here.
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Apologies. I had to come, I had to like pause the video and then come back because I realized I had the
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wrong clip from the CBC later where they're talking about Mark Carney. It was the wrong guest who was
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speaking and I can't find the right one. It doesn't matter. Actually, I can give them credit
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though. The people who were speaking on the panel that I originally wanted to show,
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that guy was actually saying that Carney's trying to tout the idea that he's like made gains on the
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trade issue with the US. At the same time, like, no, you haven't. You know, you kind of have to have
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a deal signed to be able to claim that you've had any progress. There's no such thing as like,
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well, there's no deal, but we're getting there. Like when you've blown past every single date that
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you've set yourself. So instead we are going to replace me making fun of the CBC with me making
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fun of Laura Babcock, our favorite commentator from the left. Everything about her is just so
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unhinged all the time. Like you wonder how there's nobody in her life who just says like, hey, Laura,
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I agree with you, but tone it down like 90% of the way. But here she is to, I'll just let her say it.
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Right? Like where I hate to do this at the end of the year, Canada, but I would be remiss in my
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responsibilities, someone with a public voice, if I didn't tell you what I truly believe is
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happening and what we need to do about it. Lead with courage and compassion. Don't let them divide
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our country against ourselves. Support the leader who is trying to get us on a stronger footing in
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this nightmare. And let's just try to grow up. Can we just focus on the fact that Canada is mere,
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mere days from possible war, more war than we're already in, in this trade war, which Warren Buffett
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said is a form of war. So we are already in this place. We can't deny it. We can't just look at our
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phone and rabbit hole ourselves away from it because it sucks. We've got to deal with it. We
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can do it with compassion, but we've got to have courage.
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Yeah. So I know, no doubt you guys are all running out of the house right now to go watch the
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O show. You can't even watch on your current devices. They're not good enough.
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You need a new TV. You need a new computer, a new iPad, a new iPhone to go watch the O show on.
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She has viewers, like not a lot of them, but there's a couple thousand people,
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few thousand people who will watch every episode of like, and eat this stuff up. And like the
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comments are all people being like, Oh my goodness, you and your guests are so right. Like we're,
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we're days away from being in a war guys. What? Well, you know that Warren Buffett said a trade
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war is a form of a war. I need to see the context on that. I honestly don't believe that that's
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actually what that Warren Buffett said in context. I assume that he's probably talking about, you
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know, sanctioning other, other countries and preventing them from like shipping. That's a
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form of war. Yeah, that would be a form, you know, a blockade would be a form of war. He's probably
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talking about like Venezuela and not letting them basically launder, uh, like oil into the American
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economy, uh, that they've basically stolen from American oil and gas companies back in the day,
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or they're talking about them preventing goods from getting out of Venezuela until they cut crack
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down on all the fentanyl and Coke dealers and whatnot. Like goodness. But the thing is that you
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have people out there who truly think like, no, we got to get behind Carney or else Trump will win.
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It's like, well, what has Carney done to get us the win? That's the problem here is that,
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and I've, I've heard this from a lot of people that you see liberals online saying they'll,
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they will excuse the fact that Carney hasn't gotten anything done. Cause he's like, well,
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he's not just going to sign any deal. He's only going to sign a deal that's good for Canada.
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It's like, well, we're currently in a situation of having no deal, which is definitely not good for
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us. But the problem is, is that the way they define a good deal for Canada effectively disallows
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the Americans from winning too. Where if you're trying to sign a trade deal, you need a win-win
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scenario. And that may require you to give in some concessions. You can make up for the concessions
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that you have to give in other ways. Like if we get rid of supply management, we could find some way
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of, you know, treating the farmers fairly who are, who are reliant on that system for so long and have
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some sort of off ramp for them while bringing in more farmers into that system, into like a new
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free market system. Cause right now we don't have a free market system. We can talk about that.
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But the thing is that Carney defines winning based on giving up nothing and getting everything we
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want, which means we will never get anything. It's delusional that this is how people think
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about politics. It's, it's either the guy who's going to, you know, it's somehow right for him to
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demand everything and concede nothing. We're Canada. I'm sorry, but we are just not a more powerful
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country than the United States. And that's not unpatriotic to say, but I will assure you guys in the
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coming and probably tomorrow, I am going to be making a video on the situation in British Columbia
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politics right now. We will talk a little bit about the BC conservative leadership race.
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One BC, we re-required one BC. Dallas Brody is absolutely right now in charge. We are going to
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be moving forward with building party infrastructure and making this a serious viable party, more serious
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than the BC conservatives, because guess what? All their riding associations are pretty much
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not operating or have completely closed up shop because that party does not actually respect their
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own riding associations. So we're going to create riding associations that we actually let do stuff.
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But that's another story for another day. I'll probably do a video where I also go over the BC
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polling because one BC has been doing quite well in the polls these days. And that's in spite of the
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fact that we had effectively people trying to sabotage us. And even though the polling was done at the
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time when we were in this kind of mini civil war, we were still getting seven, eight percent in the
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polls, and we're going to keep expanding from there. But anyways, with all that being said,
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thank you guys for watching, and I will see you all next time.