The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - June 11, 2024


Trudeau admits ＂dirty secret＂ about his divisive political career

Topics
divisive politics
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Wyatt Claypool
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Justin Trudeau Sonny Ways Harper Chrétien
Justin Trudeau's desperate attempt to smear Pierre Poilievre! Justin Trudeau is going full socialist to attack Poilievre

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10 minutes

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176.68

Word count

1,805

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116

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Justin Trudeau speaks on divisive politics and how to get re-elected, and why he thinks only other people are divisive. It's a delicious, delicious irony that even in 2015, even back in 2011, he was a divider.

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00:00:00.000 Because of the absolute delicious irony, I had to talk about these two clips of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaking on divisive politics, basically perfectly describing what he's done to try and remain in office.
00:00:14.100 Like, maybe it doesn't really go through the head of Justin Trudeau that in this first clip he's basically saying what he did in 2015, 2019, and 2021 in order to get elected.
00:00:25.900 I guess he thinks that only other people are divisive, only other people attack, yet he's going to sit here smugly talking about it as if he does the complete opposite.
00:00:35.720 He's Mr. Sonny Ways, and although he said Sonny Ways, even in 2015 he was very much a divider who talked about people who are, you know, intolerant, old-stock-style Canadians and the new progressive Canadians that he wants to lead.
00:00:50.760 He's been doing this from the very start. It's intensified over time to the point where in 2021 he was giving campaign rally speeches talking about how he wants to prevent an unvaccinated person from being able to sit next to you on a train, plane, or other piece of public transport.
00:01:08.940 That's who this guy is, and that's who he exactly describes in this clip right here.
00:01:14.020 Attack politics, divisive politics, negative, stirring up of hate and fear and differences.
00:01:22.800 The dirty secret is they work. Even back in 2015, they work to get you elected.
00:01:28.200 He even said back in 2015. Who is he talking about, Harper?
00:01:32.380 He was the only one who got elected in 2015 in terms of having a big majority government.
00:01:37.680 So what's he talking about here, attack politics, and he's talking about being divisive.
00:01:41.660 He's not saying, like, sometimes a negative ad helps.
00:01:44.520 Sometimes, you know, going for the jugular in politics, really going after the negatives of a politician help bring people to you.
00:01:51.220 That's a perfectly fine thing to do.
00:01:52.720 I don't like when people play clips like this and they go to, oh, mask off.
00:01:57.460 He does negative stuff. That means Justin Trudeau is secretly a dictator.
00:02:01.740 No, but he is admitting to being a sleazebag.
00:02:04.440 And what he's admitting to is not just negative campaigning.
00:02:07.780 It is being divisive and trying to divide people against each other.
00:02:11.520 I'll let him continue.
00:02:12.300 You can do that. You can mobilize and get elected.
00:02:14.740 It's just what we're seeing is that once you've used those methods to get elected,
00:02:20.180 it becomes incredibly hard to govern responsibly for all citizens in bringing people together and getting big things done.
00:02:28.800 Because once you start, you know, churning up anger, it just it just feeds on itself.
00:02:34.500 And if you're not continually throwing fresh raw meat at it, it will get away from you entirely.
00:02:45.800 Agreed. I agree with him.
00:02:47.700 Absolutely.
00:02:48.140 If anything, he's being like, you know, giving us a great insight into how his government rose and then fell is that eventually he's run out of things in order to make people angry over.
00:02:59.700 And he's completely lost control of the political narrative.
00:03:02.320 And he's right.
00:03:03.340 When you divide people against each other in a country like Canada, you're not going to be able to get big projects done.
00:03:09.180 And he really hasn't.
00:03:11.020 Yes, he spends a lot of money, but there's not been a big country unifying project or program that he's rolled out.
00:03:17.920 Or some new initiative or movement that's really done anything for the country.
00:03:21.780 Like that's kind of the funny thing about Justin Trudeau's Canada is it's not like other left wing figures who, you know, transform the fabric of the country and really turn us on, turn us into something that we didn't used to be.
00:03:36.400 Canada, honestly, has been in a holding pattern since Harper.
00:03:39.540 And even then you could say basically been in a holding pattern since Chrétien.
00:03:43.020 Nothing's really changed other than his exploitation of taxpayers.
00:03:47.420 There's nothing really fundamentally that's changed in Canadian politics that when we see Justin Trudeau go, we're like, well, that thing is now a cornerstone of Canadian politics.
00:03:56.980 Well, we could never think of Canada without that.
00:04:00.420 You can't name anything because he really hasn't done anything other than fear mongered and stirred up hatred and divided people against each other to the point where we haven't been able to get anything done.
00:04:08.920 But I'll let him finish off his remarks here.
00:04:12.000 And that's that's where we're seeing in Canada a certain number of of, you know, people who stirred up that starting.
00:04:21.340 You.
00:04:21.580 I know I know I know he wants to pretend it's not him, but it's you.
00:04:24.560 You only described yourself.
00:04:26.080 You're the only one with the power to have divided people against each other and to starting to have it sort of turn back against them a little bit.
00:04:33.800 Yes.
00:04:34.800 Yes.
00:04:35.360 Yeah, it is turning back against you.
00:04:36.740 That's a that's perfect little freeze frame there on Justin Trudeau at the end.
00:04:40.820 If anything, I have to take a screenshot of that.
00:04:42.640 I want that for later. 0.57
00:04:44.760 But the man lacks complete self-awareness.
00:04:49.120 He truly does believe he is the hero of his own story and he can literally describe himself as the villain, but he can still alienate himself from the person that is Justin Trudeau.
00:04:58.440 Like there's Justin Trudeau, the man, and then there is Justin Trudeau, the politician.
00:05:03.160 And it's like he is doing an interview as if he's Justin Trudeau, the man, not not an actual politician.
00:05:07.980 And he's speaking on how the what happened in the country.
00:05:13.180 But obviously it's not him.
00:05:14.520 It's that Justin Trudeau guy over there.
00:05:16.580 But now I want to play this other clip for you where he's being asked about about far right parties being elected across Europe and acting like it's a democratic problem that people voted for what they wanted.
00:05:30.320 Like this is the thing I've said about the left a lot.
00:05:32.560 They only think it's democracy when they win.
00:05:35.500 I think that describes them very well because every time a party that they don't like, and maybe you and I, depending on the specific example, might not like them either.
00:05:44.340 But they think it's a problem that people voted for what they wanted.
00:05:47.880 And even I, in 2015, when people elected a big liberal majority, I didn't think that was a problem.
00:05:53.600 Frankly, people got what they wanted and they quickly stopped liking it.
00:05:57.480 And since 2019, we've been more so just in this holding pattern of not enough, you know, support going one way or the other to change anything.
00:06:06.080 But definitely people are dissatisfied.
00:06:07.940 And I think that's a perfectly normal electoral cycle.
00:06:11.160 But Justin Trudeau doesn't think so.
00:06:12.840 We have seen around the world a rise of populist right-wing forces in just about every democracy that we've seen.
00:06:25.940 And it is of concern to see political parties choosing to instrumentalize anger, fear, division, anxiety.
00:06:39.180 Again, sounds a lot like you, Justin.
00:06:42.300 My approach has always been to respond to it, to understand it and to look to solve it, to roll up our sleeves, work hard and with ambition for this country and for our future.
00:06:52.960 And I continue to be convinced that Canadians are thoughtful about the challenges we're facing and ready to see them solved rather than just allow themselves to be, have their anger amplified without any solutions offered.
00:07:11.260 The man, he's also admitting that Canadians are, in fact, angry about certain things, but nothing he's done, obviously.
00:07:17.040 It's just right-wingers finding some, you know, small issues and then blowing them up.
00:07:21.560 But again, he's talking about people voting for what they want as if it's a problem that now needs to be met.
00:07:27.880 It's like there are real problems.
00:07:30.400 It's like he thinks that political issues are just kind of, you know, frivolous little issues of the, like, complaints of the populace.
00:07:37.520 No, they're real issues.
00:07:38.840 And you not, like, meeting them makes people angry.
00:07:41.720 And then you dividing people against each other also makes them angry at each other as well as you.
00:07:47.260 But Justin Trudeau sitting here pretending like it's like the tactics only of the far-right populists to make people angry and to exploit that is absolutely laughable.
00:07:58.780 And he's saying all this, like, as if just things happen to him.
00:08:04.560 Things only happen to socialists.
00:08:07.100 Right-wingers and other people have agency and they do things.
00:08:10.340 But in Justin Trudeau, everything, every bad thing that happens, the rise in, you know, more conservative populism with pure poly of, that's not because of him.
00:08:19.840 That's just because there are people out there exploiting – he sounds like a conspiracy theorist, frankly, that Justin Trudeau can't wrap his head around the idea that some people just choose other options over time.
00:08:31.180 But whatever.
00:08:32.240 It's so, you know, out of touch.
00:08:35.220 It's unbelievable.
00:08:36.220 Also, I just want to talk about the fact that, man, I wish I could get away with being as incoherent as Justin Trudeau is.
00:08:41.840 And I know I sometimes am, even in this video, slightly incoherent.
00:08:45.300 But just the idea that this man, who has been the prime minister for eight years and an acting teacher, can just barely string a sentence together and sounds somewhat coherent.
00:08:56.520 His ability to kind of just extend phrases out and then just throw in words like conversations and being able to connect with people.
00:09:09.600 Like, his – it's just word salad.
00:09:11.760 It must be so easy to make an AI to seem like Justin Trudeau because you can throw in grammar errors and people are like, that's what Justin Trudeau sounds like.
00:09:20.640 He has no ability to communicate like somebody who I'd expect is a seasoned politician.
00:09:25.780 And I think it's because he's just so fully fake that he doesn't actually know what to say in a lot of these situations.
00:09:30.740 Either he's scripted and he sounds, like, pretty solid, or if he's unscripted, it turns into the water box drink bottle stuff.
00:09:38.860 Ugh.
00:09:39.440 Anyways, that should be it for me today, guys.
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00:10:10.400 Anyways, that should be it for me today, guys.
00:10:12.420 Have a good one.