The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - May 07, 2024


Trudeau is awful, but the Liberals have no other leadership option

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Justin Trudeau Liberals Party leadership
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Wyatt Claypool
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Justin Trudeau Mark Carney Sean Fraser Bill Morneau Arif Varani Anita Anand Polyev Chrystia Freeland Francois-Philippe Champagne Michael Ignatieff Dominic LeBlanc Katie Telford Melanie Jolie Ron Liepert Rob Silver Joe Lee Harper
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It appears as if the federal Liberal Party is about to learn a very important lesson in the near or later future as to why you do not make your party a personality cult around the leader and the Prime Minister. Because right now, Justin Trudeau is absolutely irreplaceable for the Liberals. They have nobody else who could possibly become a Liberal Party leader, both in the party and outside of the party, because they have made the entire party about Justin Trudeau.

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00:00:00.000 It appears as if the federal Liberal Party is about to learn a very important lesson in the near or later future
00:00:06.760 as to why you do not make your party a personality cult around the leader and the Prime Minister.
00:00:13.100 Because right now, Justin Trudeau is absolutely irreplaceable for the Liberals.
00:00:17.860 They have nobody else who could take over as the leader of the party or the Prime Minister
00:00:22.180 because they have made the entire party about Justin Trudeau.
00:00:26.000 That's such a weird word to have to apply to a man like Justin Trudeau. 0.99
00:00:30.260 He's incredibly incompetent, he's deeply unpopular, and he's very, very corrupt. 0.80
00:00:35.580 And somehow, he is also the only man who could actually helm the Liberal Party into the next election 0.95
00:00:40.840 and not have them fall below, like, ten seats.
00:00:44.380 Everyone else who could possibly become a Liberal Party leader, both in the party and outside of the party,
00:00:50.620 are just not compelling to Canadians at all.
00:00:53.100 Liberal Party supporters don't even really like these candidates,
00:00:56.200 and all Canadians definitely do not like these people.
00:00:58.980 It would be easier, like, trying to sell asbestos into people's homes today
00:01:03.740 than have these people actually be put on the ballot as the leader of the Liberal Party in the next federal election.
00:01:09.420 Like, they're going to have to absolutely clear the decks of all these old ministers and MPs
00:01:15.480 after this next election, tell them not to run again,
00:01:18.240 because nobody wants to see them.
00:01:20.960 And the issue is, all these people are effectively just Justin Trudeau with less personality,
00:01:25.900 because no matter what ministry they are in charge of, they are effectively just Justin Trudeau.
00:01:31.080 They might as well be wearing Justin Trudeau face masks every single time they walk into the House of Commons,
00:01:36.360 because it's not just that Justin Trudeau controls the direction of policy.
00:01:40.700 Obviously, he's going to do that as the Prime Minister.
00:01:42.820 The issue is, every detail, every tone of the government,
00:01:47.560 just the way people probably even drink water, whether it's with the right hand or the left hand,
00:01:51.300 is probably controlled by Justin Trudeau.
00:01:53.120 The man, although he does have his advisors, 0.99
00:01:56.160 him and his small band of fools in his office pretty much control every single aspect of the party. 0.98
00:02:01.940 It's Justin Trudeau and Katie Telford and Rob Silver telling every single minister what to say and do. 0.98
00:02:07.640 Arif Varani, I believe the current, like, justice minister, is the perfect example.
00:02:14.000 A man who doesn't have a personality.
00:02:16.500 If he wasn't the minister, I think he might just fade away.
00:02:18.940 I'm not sure if Arif Varani is an actual person or not.
00:02:22.180 He's effectively just a manifestation of what Justin Trudeau wants to do horribly wrong
00:02:27.580 with censorship policy and all this other stuff. 0.99
00:02:30.140 It's an absolute clown show. 0.69
00:02:32.300 But I want to show you the polling that came out from Abacus Data. 0.93
00:02:35.860 First, I'll show you what Liberal Party supporters think.
00:02:38.360 Then I'll show you what all Canadians think.
00:02:40.360 Although, these first figures are actually almost worse
00:02:43.620 when you consider that all these ministers should be extremely popular inside the Liberal Party
00:02:50.220 simply because the Liberal supporters are predisposed to liking these people.
00:02:54.320 And, check this out,
00:02:55.740 The person they like the best is Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland,
00:03:00.040 with only 50% of Liberal Party supporters having a positive impression of them.
00:03:05.000 That's insane.
00:03:05.660 Only 50% of people in your own party like you after being in government for multiple terms.
00:03:14.220 That's terrifying.
00:03:15.460 If you polled the Conservative Party,
00:03:17.540 there'd be tons of shadow ministers and critics who are above 70 or 80 or 90% approval.
00:03:24.020 The thing is that Freeland's somehow only at 50%.
00:03:27.940 It's like baffling.
00:03:29.360 Melanie Jolie only at 42%.
00:03:30.900 Mark Carney, who is not in the Liberal government,
00:03:33.480 but he's considered like a potential successor,
00:03:35.380 although he's effectively just a Michael Ignatieff,
00:03:38.520 but he lives in the UK instead of the US.
00:03:40.520 He only pulls 32%.
00:03:41.800 Philippe Champagne, 32%.
00:03:43.540 Anita Anand, 30%.
00:03:45.220 Dominic LeBlanc, 29%.
00:03:46.940 And the cherry on top is Sean Frazier only has a 23% positive approval rating
00:03:53.720 with Liberal Party supporters.
00:03:56.220 A good 40% of people don't even know who he is.
00:03:59.000 27% are neutral and 9% are negative.
00:04:01.840 That's horrifying because they've been pumping up Sean Frazier for the last year now
00:04:06.460 as like the second coming of a housing minister,
00:04:09.620 acting like this guy has the right alchemy to make sure that we can fit in the 500,000
00:04:15.040 new permanent residents we bring in a year,
00:04:17.040 plus all the foreign workers and students.
00:04:20.800 And then we also have a lot of Canadian citizens who can't find houses.
00:04:23.640 But no, Sean Frazier is the man for the job,
00:04:25.880 a man who is effectively just a taller and more awkward version of Justin Trudeau.
00:04:29.740 And Justin Trudeau is like, at least he's charismatic.
00:04:33.500 Like, I don't like him. 1.00
00:04:34.480 I think he's a jerk. 1.00
00:04:35.380 I think he's foolish. 1.00
00:04:36.480 But in 2015, he at least came off charismatic. 0.99
00:04:40.180 And now all these people are just the most awkward people you've ever met.
00:04:43.140 Have you ever seen Christy Freeland in the background of a press conference?
00:04:48.160 It's mesmerizing to watch her.
00:04:49.820 It's like she can't sit still.
00:04:51.540 Frankly, she reminds me of me because even I'm a little bit weird like that.
00:04:55.760 But you shouldn't be like me.
00:04:57.760 Don't be like me.
00:04:58.720 Although you should like me if you live in my riding,
00:05:01.600 since I, Wyatt Claypool, am running for the riding of Calgary Signal Hill.
00:05:05.360 So buy a Conservative Party membership if you live in West Calgary.
00:05:08.160 And check out my website, WyattClaypool.com.
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00:05:11.660 But all this gets even worse when you look at what all Canadians think of these people.
00:05:16.220 Christy Freeland with all Canadians.
00:05:17.880 21% approval.
00:05:19.680 Joe Lee, 19% approval.
00:05:21.780 Carney, 18%.
00:05:22.720 Champagne, 16%.
00:05:23.880 LeBlanc, 13%.
00:05:25.120 Anita Anand, 12%. 0.80
00:05:26.460 And Sean Frazier with 10% approval among all Canadians.
00:05:30.040 And Freeland, being the best candidate within the Liberal Party, has a 34% negative approval rating.
00:05:37.060 A net negative 13.
00:05:38.860 The only person with a worse approval rating is Sean Frazier simply because nobody knows who he is because he is skull crushingly boring as a person.
00:05:47.040 And again, boring is fine, actually.
00:05:50.420 A lot of the time, boring is actually an okay trait to have as a politician.
00:05:53.820 You could say, and I'm not trying to go after anyone here, but Harper was a little bit boring. 0.99
00:05:58.100 But he was boring in the way that you want your accountant to be boring.
00:06:01.800 You don't want there to be too much exciting accounting work going on.
00:06:05.040 You hope that your taxes are boring to them, and they do not get too excited about anything unless you get a big tax return or something.
00:06:13.220 For the most part, boring is not a bad thing.
00:06:15.740 But with Sean Frazier, it's not that he's boring in the sense he's good at his job and you don't realize to check in on him.
00:06:20.520 That guy, you are terrified he's messing up something at all times, and he's boring to boot.
00:06:25.800 So it is the worst possible package for a candidate.
00:06:30.100 And again, Freeland, somehow Freeland standing right next to the Trudeau, who would have thunk it that she became extremely unpopular?
00:06:38.080 Mark Carney, he's at a zero net approval.
00:06:42.800 18% like him, 18% don't like him, and 24% are neutral.
00:06:46.940 For everyone who thinks that they could just slot in Mark Carney and the Liberals will go up by 5% or 6%, it doesn't work that way.
00:06:54.500 And it's what I said at the start.
00:06:55.860 The party, the Liberal Party of Canada, is a cult around Justin Trudeau.
00:07:00.840 So throwing in Mark Carney would actually have a lot of the progressives probably go and vote for another party or stay home, probably vote NDP or Green or stay home if they're in like super liberal ridings where nobody else could possibly win.
00:07:12.500 And it's because Justin Trudeau is actually a very fundamentally orange liberal.
00:07:16.320 He is a very NDP-ish liberal, hyper-progressive, hyper-socialistic on a lot of economics.
00:07:21.460 So throwing in a Mark Carney who feels a lot like Bill Morneau, who actually probably would have made a good candidate because Bill Morneau was like Mark Carney with more personality, it just feels like a retreat to put Carney in as the leader.
00:07:35.960 And the thing is that, yes, it's trying to maybe lose with dignity putting Carney in, but I don't think Carney's up for that job right now.
00:07:41.940 And obviously people could then try and strike back and say, well, the Conservative Party feels like a personality cult around pure Polyev. 0.98
00:07:50.580 No, it is not.
00:07:51.500 And you know how I can prove that to you?
00:07:53.280 Think about probably the top 10 prominent Conservatives.
00:07:57.300 You can probably think of a lot of the same people I'd think of because there's a lot of big personalities inside the Conservative Party.
00:08:03.580 People who are allowed to do what they want, say what they want, obviously within some general bounds of what the party believes on different issues.
00:08:11.160 But there are genuine personalities inside the Conservative Party.
00:08:14.500 If Polyev for some reason had stepped down and stopped being the leader, we'd have a really competitive and interesting leadership race on our hands.
00:08:22.040 The leadership for the Liberals?
00:08:24.520 Freeland's going to debate Mark Carney and Sean Frazier?
00:08:27.300 Like, man, to be a fly on the wall on that debate, knowing what boring opinions all these people agree with each other on and all the issues that they'll dodge that they ended up causing in government.
00:08:39.320 Like, what would they, they would just give some inspiring speeches about how, wow, we're a truly progressive country and we need progressive policy.
00:08:46.580 It would be like that for an hour and a half.
00:08:49.340 But Canada is truly healing if nobody likes these people at all.
00:08:53.420 There's some other good polls right here that sum up the numbers for all these individuals for their current polling ratings.
00:09:01.760 And then I think this one's also interesting.
00:09:03.880 Look at these people and their approval ratings across different provinces.
00:09:08.180 Freeland's really the only sort of doable option since a lot of people in Ontario know who she is.
00:09:14.120 But as soon as she steps out to a Western province, her approval rating just hits the floor.
00:09:18.880 However, it's purely because people in, like, Toronto know who she is, but that would just be kind of putting a hat on a hat.
00:09:26.060 The Liberal Party already does good in Toronto.
00:09:28.200 So what's the point of putting in a Toronto politician to lead the Liberals?
00:09:32.640 If they kind of need either someone from British Columbia or, like, Manitoba to be their leader,
00:09:38.120 they need to get a little bit away from the St. Lawrence River and get away from that kind of elite vibe that they really project towards the Canadian public.
00:09:48.640 Anyways, that should be it for me today, guys.
00:09:51.400 Sorry to bore you by talking about a hypothetical leadership race that's not even happening,
00:09:55.720 but at least I find it interesting thinking about just how in the corner the Liberals have put themselves.
00:10:02.180 They are between a Rock and a Trudeau place right now.
00:10:05.400 There's no way that they can actually get out of the polling position they are in, and I think this is very indicative of it.
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