The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Trudeau is running scared as Liberal MPs turns on him

00:00:00.000 Welcome back to the Wyatt Claypool show, everyone. Well, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau doesn't look too happy after he exited the Liberal Party caucus meeting yesterday, where a letter was given to him that supposedly 25 Liberal MPs have signed asking for Trudeau to submit himself to some form of leadership review and even consider resigning as the Liberal Party leader and Prime Minister.

00:00:27.360 This is Justin Trudeau walking out of that caucus meeting yesterday, not looking extremely happy, despite saying that everyone is strong and united.

00:00:45.840 I think, and I'm going to play this again, I think that just the way he's walking, it's this very brisk, get me out of here kind of pace.

00:00:53.800 And the way he says the Liberal Party is strong and united, has a little bit of a I-want-to-kill-people sort of vibe to it.

00:01:02.180 And knowing that I hear that basically half of the people in his party might want him to leave, yeah, he is not in a very good mood right now.

00:01:12.260 But let's just take a look at that one more time, because I find it quite satisfying to see Justin Trudeau this uncomfortable with his position as leader.

00:01:19.240 If things were truly going well, I feel like Justin Trudeau is the type of guy who would actually have stopped by and talked to reporters for a while.

00:01:35.580 You know, we're strong and united and we are focusing on delivering for Canadians, $10 a day childcare, the carbon rebate, whatever.

00:01:43.140 He'd mention a bunch of random garbage, but he would stop and talk for a bit.

00:01:47.240 He wants to get out of there because he knows a follow-up question is grim death for him.

00:01:52.360 He would probably fall apart if anyone asked him, so did they give you the letter saying that you should leave?

00:01:58.900 And maybe we should pull up that letter right now and just read some excerpts from it, because I think it's at least decently interesting to see what these people are saying.

00:02:07.760 I'll put it on screen for a little bit, but then I'll just take it down because it's basically just kind of slightly blurry text to you guys.

00:02:13.980 But it says at the top, code red petition.

00:02:16.780 And this was a petition that was signed around by 25 or so liberal MPs.

00:02:23.680 I don't believe that they put their names forward, which still proves that there's not many spines to go around inside the liberal party.

00:02:31.220 That even in a closed-door caucus meeting, those who have big problems with Justin Trudeau still won't quite identify themselves.

00:02:38.720 But they are saying, and this is in the letter, that Justin Trudeau has until October 28th to basically submit himself to some sort of leadership review panel where caucus gets to have an open forum with him.

00:02:52.840 People get to bring forward complaints, or at least they get to bring forward complaints to a commission set up by the liberal party within the liberal party, who will then give an actual honest-to-goodness review of how Justin Trudeau has been doing to him directly.

00:03:09.580 And then he has to commit to certain changes or step down as leader.

00:03:13.760 Now, as a conservative myself, I want these people to lose.

00:03:18.340 I think that all these people coming after Justin Trudeau now are just weasels who should have said something nine years ago when he was already doing things that weren't good for the country, and they probably knew it, but they wanted to keep their seats.

00:03:32.380 So all this reads as very pathetic to me.

00:03:36.120 Regardless, still, in a certain technical sense, Justin Trudeau should be submitting himself to some sort of review.

00:03:43.820 But I just want to read a couple lines out of this petition.

00:03:46.960 It says,

00:03:48.340 That is actually such an important line.

00:04:12.120 They know inside, it's not just that Polyev is propagandizing against us, and that's why people don't like us. 0.90

00:04:20.120 It's because Polyev's tricking Canadians into not liking our policy agenda.

00:04:25.300 No, in this letter, these MPs, these probably mostly backbench MPs, are acknowledging that it's not that Canadians just don't get it or that Polyev's lying about us.

00:04:37.000 He's smearing us.

00:04:38.180 We're actually doing a great job.

00:04:39.680 People are more prosperous than our, but they're believing Polyev's lies.

00:04:42.960 No, they acknowledge that it's the policies themselves which people don't like.

00:04:48.840 It's the results that people don't like.

00:04:52.100 But I'll read down further.

00:04:53.080 That was just the introduction.

00:04:54.940 Now I'm going to read the Our Request part.

00:05:27.340 And then they're basically asking for a meeting to give over their grievances, for Trudeau to submit himself to an actual anonymous vote of the caucus on whether or not they want him to stay anonymous,

00:05:47.920 so that he can't specifically target individuals who vote against him afterwards, and that Trudeau consider resigning or allow himself to be subject to a membership or a leadership review of the members.

00:06:01.460 Now, do I think Trudeau is going to go through that?

00:06:04.660 No.

00:06:05.060 I think he is basically just going to play a game of chicken with these people and see if they're serious enough to actually come out against him, because the ball's in their court.

00:06:13.680 In fact, Trudeau has come out and said everything is strong and unified, and now it's these liberal MPs' jobs to come out and say, no, we are not strong and unified.

00:06:23.800 Here is what we want, and here is all the MPs who are willing to basically leave caucus or call publicly for his resignation if he doesn't do what we want.

00:06:32.580 Because the problem with everything Trudeau's doing now, or the problem with what the liberal MPs want, is that it requires Trudeau to do something.

00:06:41.500 They then need to back this up with a threat.

00:06:43.680 But now I want to just quickly go through some of the reactions we've seen from liberal MPs leaving this caucus meeting, because a lot of them were also caught by the media and asked their opinions on what's going on.

00:06:56.280 So we have this liberal MP, I forget who a lot of these people are, it's not Randy Boissoneau, it's somebody else, but asking them, this minister, about what the real condition is inside of the liberal caucus.

00:07:10.840 What does that mean about where things are with his future? Is he staying on and clear? Is that decided, or is that still an open question?

00:07:18.420 Well, he has already made clear his views on that, and I think it will be even more clear as he speaks to you.

00:07:25.240 But what is even more clear coming out of the caucus is we had also the opportunity of speaking about the good news of the interest rates.

00:07:32.580 Yes, we were talking about the good news. Oh yes, all that good news that's going on.

00:07:39.440 Nobody actually has emergency caucus meetings, or even in the regular scheduled caucus meetings, do people just talk about the good news?

00:07:47.680 People talk about generally what's working, they'll mention some of that, but they'll mostly talk about problems, because you don't need to solve good news stuff, those are just good things that are happening.

00:07:59.480 You talk about things that you have to fix, and obviously the thing that has to be fixed inside the liberal party is the terrible policy and the terrible leadership.

00:08:08.480 Although I would also add in the fact that they all need spine transplants, but I doubt they would ever talk about that, although they should.

00:08:16.200 Here's another one that we have, or at least, yeah, why not? Let's go to Nate Erickson Smith next, who I know some people say he's like one of the honest liberals, and he's very forthwith with his opinion.

00:08:30.840 I consider the guy to be a complete weasel, who only ever says things clearly when it seeks to benefit him, and although that describes a lot of politicians, I see him as doing it in this fake, I'm trying to be honest and reach out to the public and speak truth to power kind of a way, when in times like this, even now, he's super vague in his language.

00:08:53.220 He's not even running for re-election again, and he won't put his money where his mouth is and just say if he actually thinks Trudeau should stay or not.

00:09:01.920 But here's Nate Erickson Smith.

00:09:03.320 Reflect on what he's heard from colleagues, and I think he's got to find some way to earn the trust of the colleagues who are expressing this frustration, and people are coming at it from different reasons for expressing that frustration.

00:09:13.580 The second thing is to my colleagues, you know, as the Prime Minister works to deliver a response to what he heard today, I think it's really important that it's, like, you've got to stand down the palace intrigue, and we can't have the knives in.

00:09:26.580 We've got to face the knives out, and we've got to fight the real fight against Pierre Pagliot, and I don't know how interesting that is for you guys, but that's what I said.

00:09:32.800 Do you think the colleagues will do that? Do you think they'll stand down?

00:09:35.940 If there's a constructive effort to really respond to what was said in there, I hope so.

00:09:41.480 Do you think there's, like, a timeline that the Prime Minister needs to kind of get these things done, or at least some of them are underway to show to those colleagues?

00:09:47.500 Yeah, yesterday. Yeah, yesterday. I mean, like, especially on the campaign side, right? So, in fairness, you know, the national division.

00:09:54.340 See, he'll say something a little bit honest, and then he immediately pulls back, when should these changes have been made?

00:09:59.360 Well, yesterday. Oh, well, but to be fair, and then he starts trying to, like, justify himself again. He's so slimy, I find.

00:10:06.500 There's some conservatives who respect Nate Erickson Smith. I just don't.

00:10:10.020 I think this guy's just out for himself in a very sweaty and desperate way. Like, just look at that committee meeting, where he starts swearing at people, because they said,

00:10:20.220 well, I thought Nate would have had more integrity to do this or that, and it was on some sort of thing he wasn't answering questions for.

00:10:26.400 And he starts, like, swearing and having a meltdown. I think that the guy is made of pure ego, like so many politicians I know.

00:10:32.920 The national director is already, is ready to present a five-point plan. He couldn't do that today because other events overran that.

00:10:39.320 But he's ready to present a plan. I think that's part of it. And then I think there's got to be a real reflection on, you know,

00:10:46.420 what he heard not only from me, but from other colleagues, to say, how do I re-earn some of that trust,

00:10:50.960 and how do I make sure that people are listening to you?

00:10:53.200 Well, they're talking to, like, this is, like, the Conservative Party. And what I mean by that is they're acting like there's some sort of, like,

00:11:00.640 grassroots democracy going on inside the Liberal Party or the Liberal Party caucus. There isn't.

00:11:07.580 The bargain that the Liberal Party made when they had Trudeau come on as leader in 2013 is that we're going to sit back and do nothing.

00:11:15.840 And Trudeau and a few advisors are going to push us to victory on the back of his name,

00:11:20.340 even though he's a complete dullard and doesn't know anything about policy. 0.56

00:11:24.220 But, well, at least Gerald Butts or now Katie Telfer, they can make it work.

00:11:28.660 You can't now say, where's the accountability? You guys wanted no accountability.

00:11:32.720 You wanted the leader who was just going to get it done for you, and you basically just read your scripts whenever you're told to,

00:11:39.400 and you're promised to be re-elected from here to the end of time.

00:11:43.260 It didn't work out because it was never going to work out, and you were stupid to think it was going to in the first place.

00:11:48.600 The policy's bad. And him pretending, like, well, Trudeau's going to release a five-point plan to caucus.

00:11:54.060 We couldn't talk about that today.

00:11:55.860 If that five-point plan, which I don't know what was on, like, new policies they're going to release or other sorts of things they're going to do,

00:12:02.020 if that would have changed anything, it would have been presented at that caucus meeting.

00:12:06.180 You don't sit there listening to grievances or hearing that there's grievances abound,

00:12:11.000 having given the petition and saying that there's, you know, 25 or more MPs who have signed on to this.

00:12:17.080 And then you're like, well, I'm not going to mention the thing that might quell your dissatisfaction.

00:12:21.760 Trudeau didn't mention it because it didn't matter at all.

00:12:24.360 It has nothing to do with people liking him or not, whether or not he has a new five-point plan.

00:12:29.500 He's had a lot of new plans in the past, and none of them have, like, resulted in a hill of beans.

00:12:36.420 Marie-Claude Bibaud here, another liberal MP leaving the caucus meeting.

00:12:41.480 I thought this was, again, another telling post-caucus meeting little scrum interview,

00:12:48.500 demonstrating the nervousness and erratic energy inside the party right now,

00:12:52.640 who has not dealt with a lot of disgruntled MPs in quite a while.

00:12:57.060 How does the Prime Minister move past this? How do you move past this? How do you call the dissent?

00:13:01.300 How does the Prime Minister get past this?

00:13:03.940 The wheels are turning. She's trying to figure out how to not get herself in trouble.

00:13:07.700 I mean, you are amplifying something that is very not to the what you...

00:13:14.060 This is very not to the what you trying to say.

00:13:19.540 I can't believe you guys are reporting on interesting political intrigue.

00:13:24.640 Why are you guys reporting on this? This is your fault.

00:13:27.080 Oh my goodness. What kind of, like, does she... 1.00

00:13:30.740 When she was thinking there for a second, she rolled her dice

00:13:33.600 to see if she could come up with a good excuse for this,

00:13:37.080 and she rolled double snake eyes here. 1.00

00:13:39.580 I think you wish it would be.

00:13:41.160 You have MPs. You have MPs in your caucuses.

00:13:43.500 I haven't seen anything from any MPs signed by any MPs.

00:13:48.020 You think you're bluffing?

00:13:49.180 I haven't seen anything signed by any MPs,

00:13:53.360 and any MPs came to me with something like that.

00:13:56.560 None.

00:13:57.100 Are you saying that he's not?

00:13:58.260 She just turned into Schultz from Hogan's Heroes here. 1.00

00:14:04.100 I've seen nothing.

00:14:05.420 I've heard nothing.

00:14:06.580 I don't know anything.

00:14:07.540 I don't know my own name.

00:14:11.940 Answers like this just make people want to ask more questions,

00:14:14.480 because you know there's just crazy meltdowns happening in caucus

00:14:17.820 with somebody with no clue what to say walking out,

00:14:20.960 because these people are stunned.

00:14:22.000 And here's Mary New coming out of the meeting holding a latte, 0.99

00:14:28.300 probably a matcha latte.

00:14:29.660 I don't know.

00:14:30.200 There's just a slight greenness to the cup here.

00:14:32.460 And Canadians expect us to do this work, 0.98

00:14:34.960 so we're going to have a good, robust conversation at caucus like we do.

00:14:38.660 What are you doing here, Molly?

00:14:40.240 What are you doing here, Molly?

00:14:41.400 By the way, by the way, if you're this guy,

00:14:46.740 and you've got, like, a beard, 5 o'clock shadow,

00:14:48.860 stop wearing the very smooth leather backpack.

00:14:52.960 That's a backpack for a 22-year-old girl going to university,

00:14:56.880 if I can say something slightly off-topic here, but it bothers me.

00:15:02.840 The idea of, like, oh, we're in there working hard for Canadians,

00:15:06.120 and, oh, if something is afoot, it will be brought up.

00:15:11.760 Oh, my goodness.

00:15:12.660 These people don't have any risk.

00:15:14.640 Again, the Conservative Party, because there is more open dialogue in it,

00:15:18.520 and there's problems.

00:15:19.560 I know there's problems.

00:15:20.520 I ran for, I literally ran for a federal Conservative nomination

00:15:24.780 in Calgary-Sigville Hill, and I was kicked out of it

00:15:27.360 for no reason other than somebody in the party

00:15:29.740 was trying to get their friend or ally through as the candidate.

00:15:33.860 I made sure that person's still lost,

00:15:35.680 because, no, you don't get to just be an MP in a riding you don't live in

00:15:39.240 when you have a crap record and you didn't work that hard for it.

00:15:43.000 But regardless, I know there's problems inside of the Conservative Party,

00:15:47.080 but the Conservative Party actually has some open dialogue.

00:15:50.720 They have grassroots democracy inside the party.

00:15:53.220 There is reviews of leadership.

00:15:55.060 There's never been that inside the Liberal Party,

00:15:57.180 and now they're struggling to find the words or actions required

00:16:01.200 to actually muscle their way through a real impasse inside of caucus,

00:16:05.800 even if it's not the majority.

00:16:07.420 Do you think that Trudeau can afford to suffer any more wounds here?

00:16:11.380 Do you think that Trudeau can really take one on the chin from his own party,

00:16:15.780 and that he's going to somehow win the 2025 election?

00:16:19.320 Not a chance.

00:16:20.460 This guy doesn't have anything left in his policy repertoire.

00:16:26.080 He can't renounce anything that will make people think,

00:16:28.900 wow, you know, I really underestimated Justin Trudeau.

00:16:31.680 Every single new plan he releases is just more spending.

00:16:34.920 Honestly, he actually did do something yesterday,

00:16:37.660 or at least it's rumored to be happening today or sometime this week,

00:16:41.440 that they're going to be reducing immigration target numbers.

00:16:44.200 They're going to be reducing the amount of people

00:16:46.220 that are being allowed into the country.

00:16:48.020 Good.

00:16:49.120 Way too late.

00:16:50.300 I'm not going to forgive him because he's not asking for forgiveness.

00:16:53.060 Still way too late.

00:16:54.180 But if he did more of that, maybe people would like him.

00:16:57.540 At the same time, I still think he could do literally only good things

00:17:01.340 from here on out, reverse all of his bad policies,

00:17:03.800 and people would still want him out just as punishment

00:17:06.760 for all the damage he's already done up to this point.

00:17:09.140 You don't really get to suck at your job for nine straight years,

00:17:13.940 and then in your fourth attempt at being at election,

00:17:17.220 people are like, give the boy another chance.

00:17:20.100 Come on, he's got another election in him.

00:17:22.320 At some point, you've got to move on.

00:17:24.100 But now I've got to talk about the Trudeau cheerleaders here. 1.00

00:17:28.000 I love how much people hate anyone who stands up to Justin Trudeau.

00:17:34.320 It doesn't matter if it's a conservative or a liberal.

00:17:36.800 If you're standing up to Justin Trudeau, you're the enemy.

00:17:39.760 You're something wrong with you.

00:17:41.260 And so the person who was the speculated liberal MP

00:17:45.060 who was putting out the petition for people to anonymously sign

00:17:49.780 was Peter Wheeler, Patrick Wheeler here.

00:17:53.420 And you have this person, Brooke here, with all the flags in her bio,

00:17:58.040 saying, traitor to Canada.

00:17:59.580 The a-hole, an MP who wrote this letter, Patrick Wheeler,

00:18:03.500 and then has his email there like,

00:18:06.360 I guess everyone's supposed to go and contact his office

00:18:09.100 and say that they're deeply disappointed in him

00:18:11.260 for actually wanting to have some accountability in the party.

00:18:14.800 And that's the thing.

00:18:15.980 The people who still like Trudeau, like are really big Trudeau people,

00:18:20.320 are complete...

00:18:22.220 They're just cultists at this point.

00:18:23.920 They are cheerleading cultists.

00:18:25.180 They don't actually care about Trudeau doing good things or bad things.

00:18:29.900 They simply want to keep hearing Justin Trudeau play the greatest hits.

00:18:34.100 There are people who didn't realize the band was bad eight years ago,

00:18:37.620 but they're still saying, well, they had that good album.

00:18:39.660 But Trudeau never had one.

00:18:41.060 It's just been bad the entire time.

00:18:43.240 Here's one, a post from our favorite TikToker,

00:18:46.760 but not a TikTok video this time,

00:18:49.360 Creek Pete saying,

00:18:50.060 Oh, F off already.

00:18:52.300 The horse is not only dead, it's dust.

00:18:54.980 You guys are planning on doing any actual journalism anymore?

00:18:58.360 There's more important stories that you're ignoring.

00:19:01.400 Why?

00:19:02.380 And he's responding to this article written by Tanya McCharles here.

00:19:08.480 And the header to her post says,

00:19:10.100 Trudeau told MPs he will stay on,

00:19:11.980 but questions remain over prime minister's leadership

00:19:14.600 after meaningful, direct, and blunt meeting with the liberal caucus.

00:19:18.680 Our latest here.

00:19:20.060 This article is from the Toronto Star.

00:19:24.100 And Creek Pete is saying,

00:19:25.380 Are you guys going to do any actual journalism?

00:19:27.760 Pretending like they're like conservative media.

00:19:31.320 The Toronto Star is the most left-wing mainstream news source you can find,

00:19:36.700 excluding places like anti-hate.ca and Press Progress,

00:19:40.280 which are literal far left just rags.

00:19:43.440 They're not even really news publications.

00:19:45.300 They're more so campaign tools for the NDP and the liberals

00:19:48.640 to go after conservatives with.

00:19:50.780 But the Toronto Star is as liberal as you could possibly get.

00:19:55.260 And people like Creek Pete and all these other people I see online

00:19:58.800 are still complaining.

00:20:00.580 Because unless you are just subservient to Justin Trudeau,

00:20:03.560 and they'll never call you out for being too,

00:20:05.960 too, like too, what would I, like what word should I be using here?

00:20:12.760 I guess like too praising, too, like, you know,

00:20:16.880 bending over backward too much for Trudeau.

00:20:18.680 They'll never call you out for being a hack for Trudeau,

00:20:21.280 because that's their goal.

00:20:22.300 So many liberals, and I'm not talking about people who vote liberal.

00:20:26.360 Most people who vote liberal just look at it and say,

00:20:28.700 well, I guess I feel liberal in terms of my policy stances

00:20:31.860 or the vibes that I vote on.

00:20:34.120 But like, I'm talking about like people who are big liberal cheerleaders,

00:20:37.440 truly just want their toys in the sandbox.

00:20:40.020 They want, they believe in power,

00:20:42.000 and they want the people they like to have power,

00:20:44.340 even though those people in power are making their lives worse

00:20:47.260 through higher taxes and a worse economy and, you know,

00:20:50.780 lack, you know, weaker civil liberties, whatnot.

00:20:54.800 I want to see if I can find some of these other ones.

00:20:56.640 Like the stuff that these people are posting is just truly unhinged.

00:21:00.640 What else do we got here?

00:21:06.400 Whatever, I'm not going to go into it too much.

00:21:08.200 Doesn't really matter to me.

00:21:09.500 But what do I think is going to happen with Justin Trudeau here?

00:21:12.760 Well, apparently we are going to have that deadline on October 28th,

00:21:17.260 where the liberal caucus, I guess, is going to do something to Trudeau

00:21:20.820 if he doesn't like respond to their list of demands.

00:21:23.780 Let's say he doesn't.

00:21:25.340 I think that you're going to have some MPs start to come out

00:21:28.080 and say that Trudeau needs to resign

00:21:29.560 and he's acting like a child

00:21:31.180 and won't actually submit to any correction at all

00:21:34.240 from the people he's supposed to be accountable to.

00:21:36.920 I think that will happen.

00:21:38.680 Trudeau will maybe kick someone out of caucus.

00:21:40.640 He'll try and weather through it.

00:21:42.360 But there is a scenario here

00:21:43.820 where he is forced into some sort of a leadership review scenario

00:21:48.120 or resigns and says,

00:21:49.920 my caucus doesn't believe in me anymore.

00:21:51.920 Screw them.

00:21:53.120 I'm leaving.

00:21:54.540 And there are already people lining up

00:21:56.800 to try and take the leadership of the party

00:21:58.400 if Justin Trudeau steps down.

00:22:00.040 We have Christy Clark,

00:22:01.600 the former BC Liberal Premier,

00:22:04.380 who is starting up a website,

00:22:06.640 which sounds very much like she's trying to run for leadership. 0.95

00:22:09.520 It doesn't say it,

00:22:10.440 but it's saying I want to help the Liberal Party

00:22:12.940 beat Pierre Polyev in the next election.

00:22:15.140 I want to be as disposed to the Liberal Party as possible

00:22:18.960 so I can give them the maximum amount of help.

00:22:22.040 She obviously wants to be a leader. 0.99

00:22:24.120 She would never win a leadership, in my opinion,

00:22:26.200 because Christy Clark has no political instincts or skills.

00:22:29.740 But I think that her coming out and saying,

00:22:32.600 basically saying it without actually saying it,

00:22:35.600 that she wants to be the leader,

00:22:36.660 does start to put some momentum behind the move to oust Trudeau

00:22:41.220 because people who are MPs wanting to get rid of Trudeau

00:22:44.360 can at least say there's interest in replacing him.

00:22:46.720 There are certain people who would run.

00:22:48.620 I think Christy Clark would run. 1.00

00:22:50.360 I think that maybe Freeland would run.

00:22:52.480 Mark Carney would probably run.

00:22:54.040 And then you get a smattering of other people in caucus

00:22:56.440 who would maybe try and take a swing at it.

00:22:58.600 Other MPs, especially from Quebec,

00:23:00.640 would probably go for it.

00:23:01.840 Joel Lightbound might,

00:23:03.300 because he was one of the original people

00:23:04.760 back during the convoy saying that Trudeau

00:23:07.260 had lost a lot of trust from Canadians

00:23:09.480 and he needs to be more accountable to people

00:23:11.920 when they have issues with the way the government behaves.

00:23:14.700 Probably other MPs out West

00:23:16.980 who might say that the big problem with the Liberal Party

00:23:20.200 is it's alienated Westerners so much

00:23:22.320 that it now is so reliant on Toronto and Montreal

00:23:25.760 that the party is now not functionally able to win

00:23:28.740 more than a minority government.

00:23:31.240 But let's say, here's the other scenario.

00:23:33.540 If nobody says anything after this,

00:23:36.300 if Justin Trudeau and they don't pull the trigger

00:23:38.180 on October 28th to embarrass Trudeau

00:23:40.920 or shame him into making some sort of changes,

00:23:43.980 I think that Trudeau's polling numbers

00:23:46.020 are actually still going to fall farther though.

00:23:48.380 I think he's going to get into a position

00:23:50.000 where the NDP will start to outpace him.

00:23:53.260 So best scenario for Trudeau

00:23:55.020 is nobody says anything after this.

00:23:57.660 Nobody comes out and says he needs to resign after this.

00:23:59.820 And a bunch of people then come out and say,

00:24:02.540 actually, Trudeau has satisfied us

00:24:05.020 with some of the stuff he's released.

00:24:06.580 Maybe he can stabilize his position a little bit,

00:24:09.020 gain a little bit back in the polls.

00:24:11.560 I doubt it.

00:24:12.500 I think he's either going to have to step down

00:24:14.480 or he's going to be so injured by this

00:24:16.360 in the next election that there is a very real chance

00:24:19.480 the Liberal Party doesn't just come third place in seats.

00:24:22.000 It comes fourth place behind the NDP

00:24:23.900 and the Bloc Québécois.

00:24:25.240 Because as pathetic as the NDP is under the leadership

00:24:28.340 or lack thereof of Jagmeet Singh,

00:24:31.100 they still at least have concentrated support

00:24:33.360 around the country where it's difficult

00:24:35.440 for them to lose seats.

00:24:36.960 They can't gain seats either.

00:24:38.980 But if they get 30 seats, 35 seats,

00:24:41.780 that could be more than the Liberals.

00:24:43.400 Because the Liberals have proven

00:24:44.660 that they can lose Toronto seats.

00:24:46.500 They can lose Montreal seats.

00:24:48.220 Where else do they have strongholds?

00:24:49.860 Not the Maritimes.

00:24:51.000 Maritimes might go fully blue.

00:24:52.380 Not British Columbia.

00:24:54.260 Definitely not Alberta, Saskatchewan, or Manitoba.

00:24:57.320 So where?

00:24:58.420 Where do they actually have muscle? 0.99

00:25:01.040 They don't have it anywhere.

00:25:02.780 And that's the big problem for the Liberals

00:25:05.040 is that they have no options.

00:25:07.100 They have no path to victory in this next election.

00:25:09.980 The Bloc are going to eat their lunch in Quebec.

00:25:12.340 Maybe even Montreal, they lose some seats

00:25:14.180 to both the Bloc, the Conservatives, and the NDP.

00:25:16.760 And Toronto, there's a good chance

00:25:18.580 they don't win any seats

00:25:19.820 but maybe one or two in that city.

00:25:21.360 So, again, I want them to lose as a Conservative.

00:25:25.560 But from an outsider perspective

00:25:27.780 of observing a party doing this badly

00:25:30.600 and at least wanting them to not be this incompetent

00:25:33.680 because I want the Conservatives to win

00:25:35.580 but I also want them to have

00:25:37.060 a competent opposition to fight against

00:25:39.700 which is also why I like that the Liberals

00:25:43.020 are finally getting a little bit tougher on immigration

00:25:45.260 because it's a step towards normalcy.

00:25:47.960 The problem is they're so far left on everything else.

00:25:50.380 They still won't actually act as a good check

00:25:53.400 on the Conservatives.

00:25:54.300 Again, I think your poly and the Conservatives

00:25:56.220 are going to do a lot of great stuff in government.

00:25:58.660 I just want a competent opposition

00:26:00.700 so that if the Conservatives start breaking promises

00:26:03.240 there is a party that can take over

00:26:05.760 that threatens the Conservatives enough

00:26:07.980 that they will have to actually do

00:26:10.220 what they said they will

00:26:11.060 and actually stick to it.

00:26:13.180 Because the problem with Doug Ford in Ontario

00:26:15.720 and this is why if I was in Ontario

00:26:17.500 I'd support the new blue party of Ontario.

00:26:20.100 Doug Ford has such pathetic opposition

00:26:22.280 from the NDP and the Liberals

00:26:24.260 and I don't like those two parties at all

00:26:25.940 that he governs like a Liberal

00:26:27.360 because I guess it's more fun

00:26:28.760 because you get to spend more money.

00:26:30.200 So he's not fiscally conservative at all.

00:26:32.220 He backs subsidy programs all over the place.

00:26:34.480 He's really betrayed parents

00:26:35.840 on all the changes he was going to supposedly

00:26:37.860 make to the curriculum.

00:26:39.160 He's not done anything for parental rights.

00:26:40.840 He has not done anything to get rid of ESG, DEI

00:26:45.060 and other sort of environmental nonsense

00:26:47.260 from the government.

00:26:48.820 He's just kept it all.

00:26:49.760 His budget's bigger than ever.

00:26:51.280 And I don't want the Federal Conservatives

00:26:52.820 to be like that.

00:26:53.720 I think they'll be better than Doug Ford

00:26:55.480 even regardless of how weak or pathetic

00:26:57.900 the NDP or Liberals are.

00:26:59.380 But that is just a healthy thing to have

00:27:01.700 in a democracy an opposition

00:27:03.460 who can actually potentially win.

00:27:05.920 I want the Liberals to be competitive

00:27:07.720 and more rational as a party

00:27:09.440 so we can have multiple parties

00:27:11.720 that if they win

00:27:12.580 we don't have to like be terrified

00:27:14.560 of what they're going to do.

00:27:15.760 You know, the 90s Liberals.

00:27:17.360 I'd love for the 90 Liberals to be back

00:27:19.160 because they weren't insane.

00:27:21.260 Anyways, so that should be it for me today, guys.

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00:28:11.160 talking about Justin Trudeau's leadership woes

00:28:13.880 and the caucus revolt going on.

00:28:15.880 I'll talk to you guys next time.

00:28:17.340 I'll probably bring out some more details.

00:28:19.060 I didn't want to go through

00:28:19.720 all the nitty gritty

00:28:20.520 of which MP said what specific vague things.

00:28:24.100 I think the videos I showed you today

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The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - October 24, 2024

Trudeau is running scared as Liberal MPs turns on him

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