The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - March 19, 2025


Trump endorsement will haunt the Carney Liberals - Massive denial ensues


Episode Stats

Length

21 minutes

Words per Minute

185.48697

Word Count

4,014

Sentence Count

234

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

Trump doesn't like Canada's Prime Minister, but he thinks it's easier to deal with him than a liberal. And that's a good thing, because he doesn't want to have to negotiate with someone who's easy to get along with.


Transcript

00:00:00.080 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. There is a lot of denial in liberal circles today after U.S. President Donald Trump endorsed the federal liberals in a Fox News interview with Laura Ingram.
00:00:13.640 They think that if they keep just pointing at a chart showing that federal conservatives are more likely to like Donald Trump than federal liberals, that it makes this whole thing go away.
00:00:22.200 They're not realizing what the subtext of this interview clip is. Trump is not saying he actually likes the liberals or that he thinks liberals are more pro-Trump.
00:00:33.300 He's saying that the liberals are weak and pathetic. He is sizing up Prime Minister Gumby, Mark Carney, and saying that I can beat that guy in negotiation.
00:00:42.420 And then he looks at Pierre Polyev and says, well, that guy hasn't endorsed me or prostrated himself in front of me. He's a conservative guy.
00:00:51.280 And so he's probably his own individual who's willing to negotiate in a hardball manner. And so he doesn't like Polyev.
00:00:58.020 There's no mutual disrespect exactly. It's just that he doesn't want to have to deal with someone like that because in Trump's world, you obviously, in foreign negotiations, want to be negotiating against somebody who's easy rather than someone who's actually going to be challenging you.
00:01:12.820 I'm going to play the clip in just a second here, and then I want to go through some of what the liberals are saying, both the Liberal Party officially, what their messaging turn is, as well as just big influential or even smaller liberal accounts demonstrating that they don't understand what this means for the Liberal Party's electoral prospects.
00:01:32.820 And to be clear, this is going to hurt them, going to hurt them very badly.
00:01:37.400 But before I play the clip as a refresher, I just want to remind you guys, make sure to like this video, subscribe to the channel if you're not yet a subscriber, leave a comment what you think this is going to have an effect on when it comes to the federal election.
00:01:51.360 And without further ado, here is Donald Trump in the clip in question.
00:01:56.160 ...make them more hostile to us and possibly open the door for China closer to Canada, and that would really put us in a bind.
00:02:04.480 A conservative that's running is stupidly no friend of mine. I don't know him, but he said negative things. So when he says negative things, I couldn't care less. I think it's easier to deal, actually, with a liberal.
00:02:17.120 And that is an absolute demolishing of Mark Carney. He attacks Polyev, and I know there are some on the right who think this is bad for Polyev because anyone who likes Trump in the conservative camp is going to say,
00:02:29.420 What? Polyev's not mega? Well, I guess I can't vote conservative anymore. Guys, I don't mind Donald Trump at all. I agree with a lot of his domestic policy. Foreign policy, it's a little more hit and miss, and then I'm not a big fan of the tariffs.
00:02:41.720 But, like, I'm not someone sitting here saying, like, Trump doesn't like Polyev? Well, I'm getting up and going.
00:02:48.620 No, I understand what this is about. He doesn't like that Polyev is not going to be somebody very easy to get along with on trade, and nor should Polyev.
00:02:58.060 There should be push and pull from both sides on the U.S. and Canada's sides of the border on the issue of trade, border security, and defense.
00:03:06.160 He prefers liberals not because they like him, because they definitely hate him. It's because they're easy marks. They're pushovers. Mark Carney cannot get through a sentence properly. He's a constant rambling mess.
00:03:18.520 In fact, let's actually play that clip before I get to anything else, because this is embarrassing for Mark Carney. He can't even answer the most basic questions that he couldn't possibly not expect to get.
00:03:30.840 And this guy's going to be negotiating with Trump? And that previous clip I just played of Trump, it was highlighted by Polyev himself, who's saying that he wants the liberals to win because he wants somebody easy to negotiate against.
00:03:44.300 I think what the conservatives should do, and I said this in another video, is just play clips of Mark Carney talking, then playing videos of Trump saying it's easier to negotiate with liberals, and then just pose the question to the viewer.
00:03:59.100 Who do you trust more to negotiate with Trump? The guy that Trump wants or the guy that Trump doesn't want?
00:04:05.300 You will have a call with President Trump in the coming days. What are your expectations for the president in that call?
00:04:14.300 Well, I think, let me say a few things. The first is that the president of the United States, the prime minister of Canada, but certainly the president of the United States has many responsibilities.
00:04:26.780 And there are many issues. I can think of many geostrategic issues that the president is.
00:04:33.960 That goes on for another 30 seconds. I don't think we need to listen to the whole thing. It's about the same, even into the second half. He never gets his bearings and figures out a substantial answer to this question of what were you going to talk to Trump about?
00:04:50.240 What are you going to highlight on your first phone call?
00:04:52.800 Conservatives should just play that clip over and over again and then highlight it with Trump saying, yeah, I think it's easier to work with liberals.
00:05:02.320 He sounds like he's in a beauty patch and trying to tell us that he likes world peace and he likes being friendly to people.
00:05:11.280 There's nothing of substance in what Mark Carney said there.
00:05:14.100 But now let's get to the liberal reaction. And many of these are just online liberals.
00:05:19.780 But you have to realize these people have influence. Some of them are journalists.
00:05:23.680 Some of them are just random cranks, but they have pull.
00:05:26.600 And it's representative of the fact that I don't think the liberals know what to do with this.
00:05:31.220 Here is just here is another problem.
00:05:33.620 Look at this. Like and just their approach.
00:05:37.800 They just they're just going to double down on saying that this is actually good for Carney somehow.
00:05:41.340 Look at David Musgrove. He says, I think conservative saying Trump has endorsed Carney is just going to help Carney because it'll make him look like he's better suited to deal with the Yankees.
00:05:52.540 Who in their mind, who in their wildest fever dreams thinks that that's what Trump said, that he thinks that Mark Carney is a skilled negotiator and he's going to fight hard for Canada and he likes the cut of his jib.
00:06:07.480 But that's not what was said at all. He doesn't even know who Mark Carney is because Mark Carney is not a very well-known person.
00:06:14.360 Here's Max Fawcett reacting to Polly of posting the clip.
00:06:17.200 And he says, it's very funny that the conservative response to being perceived as being too close to Trump mega is to trust him implicitly.
00:06:24.740 Sorry, just because if you don't like him or if you don't think that he's always right, that means he's like always lying.
00:06:33.620 You could even tell him that clip with Trump that he's actually quite indignant about being asked about, well, isn't it bad if the liberals then win the next election?
00:06:41.400 He's like, nope, nope, I don't care. I don't care.
00:06:43.380 I like working with liberals more. And this guy is a loser because he didn't want to work with me, like in terms of Polly, I didn't want my blessing or endorsement, which Trump's endorsement in other countries is actually beneficial, even if they're further away, like Germany, like in Spain, France, the UK for more right wing parties.
00:07:02.620 But those are usually multi-party systems where it doesn't matter if Trump only has a 25% approval rating in those countries.
00:07:09.700 The thing is that 25% will then get behind that party who used to maybe only be 13% in the polls.
00:07:16.320 And now they're at 23% because of the endorsement that they received.
00:07:20.160 That's effectively what happened with the AFD in Germany.
00:07:23.560 In the UK, it helped out the Reform Party, although they're imploding because of Nigel Farage's massive ego.
00:07:29.360 If you know UK politics, you know what I'm talking about.
00:07:31.540 And it helps in France as well.
00:07:34.040 The problem is in Canada, we are effectively a two-party state, kind of like the US, and the Greens are kind of there, and the NDP is kind of there, but it's liberals and conservatives.
00:07:43.240 Trump's approval rating is not good enough to want the endorsement in Canada, even if you liked him unconditionally.
00:07:50.280 You just liked him on everything.
00:07:53.080 The only person who wants the endorsement is Maxime Bernier because he's at 2%.
00:07:57.520 And he only has room to grow, even though not many people like Trump.
00:08:02.300 And that's not saying that because people don't like Trump, that means he's bad.
00:08:05.620 Again, I think that Trump's quite good on a lot of domestic policy.
00:08:09.220 Foreign policy depends, and on certain other areas, it depends as well.
00:08:13.980 But overall, not bad.
00:08:14.960 But I understand that with his approval rating being 18% right now, why would a party that needs more than 40% of the vote to win a majority want that endorsement?
00:08:24.500 It doesn't make any sense.
00:08:26.560 And then so Max Fawcett saying, oh, so they're just trusting Trump implicitly that he likes the liberals?
00:08:32.240 Well, evidence suggests that he does like the liberals.
00:08:35.180 He's already beat them in a trade negotiation before.
00:08:37.640 Here's another one, and this is a common tactic.
00:08:43.120 Max Fawcett again says, polls show that Pierre Polyev is trailing Mark Carney badly when it comes to why, to who Canadians trust to take on Donald Trump.
00:08:51.020 Polyev's bold new strategy, taking Trump at his word.
00:08:55.780 Such a misread.
00:08:56.920 No, yeah, the polls showed that before, but show me the polls in two weeks when people start digesting the fact that Trump sizes up the liberals and thinks they're weak and pathetic, and he sees Polyev as his own man who's willing to be tough in negotiations.
00:09:14.240 You're not going to have, you, it's such a weirdly abstract angle to be like, the conservatives are taking Trump and his word, and that makes them bad.
00:09:23.160 What, is Trump always lying?
00:09:25.180 That's stupid.
00:09:26.060 That Trump very clearly, in a very earnest manner, is saying, I like to negotiate with liberals more than conservatives.
00:09:32.320 And no liberal messaging about how, oh, well, he's probably making that up, is going to overcome what was very clearly an off-the-cuff thing that Trump said.
00:09:42.840 This was not a prepared speech.
00:09:44.740 He's almost annoyed with Laura Ingraham for even bringing up the subject, because it's just not something he wanted to talk about,
00:09:51.880 and he doesn't like the idea that because the conservatives are more like the Republicans that he's supposed to be in favor of them.
00:09:58.940 So look at this.
00:10:00.180 And now, here's the other angle that people are taking.
00:10:02.660 So Moskrope and Max Fawcett are these left, more far-left journalists.
00:10:08.540 Max Fawcett's just more center-left, and Moskrope literally worked for the Jacobin at one point.
00:10:14.040 But let's just get to the regular street-level online liberal.
00:10:17.680 What are they thinking about this?
00:10:19.060 The Truanon crowd are thinking that there's a conspiracy that Trump's trying to help Trudeau.
00:10:25.300 So this guy just says, so Donald Trump is trying to help his buddy Polyev out by pretending to distance himself from him.
00:10:33.040 When were they ever together?
00:10:34.900 That never happened.
00:10:36.920 The fact is, it's all a ploy to help Polyev somehow get more support.
00:10:42.100 Trump needs Polyev to win to help the 2025 project complete its control over Canada and the U.S.
00:10:47.660 Oh my goodness, are people still bringing up Project 2025?
00:10:51.160 These people are overdosing on, like, MSNBC coverage of American politics, and they don't have any clue what's going on in their own country.
00:11:01.000 What is Polyev, his role in Project 2025, and what does Project 2025 have to do with Canada?
00:11:08.560 This guy's just truly saying stuff.
00:11:11.100 And he goes, here's another one.
00:11:12.300 Larry Hubich says, Trump knows he's poisoned in Canada,
00:11:16.200 so today he gave a fake endorsement to Carney.
00:11:19.000 He hopes the rubes will vote for pure Polyev so he can roll over him.
00:11:23.260 He's such an insulting pig.
00:11:25.640 Yeah, and this person who literally just calls Canadians rubes because there's a chance that they actually might take Trump at his word,
00:11:32.380 which wouldn't be a mistake in this case, in thinking that Carney's a weakling.
00:11:36.440 Carney couldn't even win a normal liberal leadership race.
00:11:39.200 He was in a fake leadership race where all of his opponents weren't even trying to make sure that he'd get a big margin of victory.
00:11:47.820 Two-thirds of liberal registered members didn't vote, and even then, like, Mark Carney basically couldn't run with real opponents against him,
00:11:56.780 or it would have made him look like a weakling.
00:11:58.540 Christia Freeland, in her own riding of University Rosedale, as Ezra Vant at Rebel News has pointed out,
00:12:05.880 literally only got, like, 181 votes, and he got, like, 1,200.
00:12:10.060 You think that's real, that Christia Freeland, with all of her friends and allies in that riding,
00:12:13.960 could only scratch up 181 votes, even with free memberships?
00:12:18.140 Not a chance in my mind.
00:12:19.480 It doesn't mean it's, like, rigged voting numbers.
00:12:21.280 It just means to me that it wasn't a real race in the sense that, like, Christia Freeland wasn't running.
00:12:28.020 Frank Bayliss and Karina Gould weren't running.
00:12:30.400 It's like a NASCAR race where their cars are stuck at 30 kilometers, and Carney can go 180 if he wants.
00:12:37.340 Here's Rupert Supermania, who is absolutely not a liberal, but I just wanted to highlight this take
00:12:42.560 because I found there's a lot of people on the right who are also severely misreading
00:12:47.280 what this Trump interview really means for the next federal election.
00:12:51.960 Again, through and through, this is a bad thing for the liberals.
00:12:55.540 And other takes I saw from liberal accounts was, well, this isn't going to save the conservatives.
00:13:00.120 They're behind in the polls.
00:13:01.860 One, the polls are heavily over-polling the liberals.
00:13:04.520 The liberals are not nearly as popular as many of the polls are showing.
00:13:07.400 And two, yeah, that's what those polls look like now, before this piece of news came out.
00:13:14.200 When a scandal hits, and there's been a few scandals for Carney,
00:13:17.280 the conflict of interest with his investments in the blind trust and not being willing to talk about it,
00:13:22.680 the fact the man can't speak, some of his previous crazy statements on policy,
00:13:27.160 and now the Trump effect, the fact that Trump thinks he's a weakling,
00:13:32.320 those things can change the polls.
00:13:34.380 The polls are not stuck wherever you most liked them to be.
00:13:39.380 But Rupert Supermania here says,
00:13:41.520 this was a predictable reaction, and here's why it's wrong.
00:13:44.500 And she's commenting on Polyev basically saying, yeah, Trump endorsed the liberals
00:13:48.300 because he thinks he's a weak negotiator.
00:13:50.620 Carney's a weak negotiator.
00:13:52.600 But Rupert goes on reacting to what Polyev said, saying,
00:13:56.160 the reason the conservatives are down in the polls is not because Pierre Polyev is seen
00:14:00.200 as being too close to Trump.
00:14:01.720 He's clearly not.
00:14:03.020 It's because poll after poll shows that Canadians believe the liberals are better suited
00:14:07.420 to deal with Trump.
00:14:08.780 Well, the point is, though, Rupert, is that this clip changes things.
00:14:14.300 Trump is basically saying they're ill-suited to negotiating with me,
00:14:17.620 and that's why I want them.
00:14:19.200 But she goes on saying, that was the case even when Trudeau was prime minister.
00:14:23.480 And that's why Trump essentially confirmed yesterday,
00:14:26.160 except that Trump despised Trudeau.
00:14:28.500 That's the real interpretation of what Trump said he'd prefer a liberal,
00:14:33.020 or why Trump said he'd prefer a liberal.
00:14:34.720 Minor typo here.
00:14:35.880 I don't blame her.
00:14:36.560 I have a lot of typos in my tweets.
00:14:38.840 He relishes the idea of a tough negotiation with Carney.
00:14:42.160 Sorry, but this is delusional.
00:14:45.040 Trump wants Carney because he thinks Carney's a tough negotiator,
00:14:49.340 and he relishes tough negotiations.
00:14:53.240 No, that's just a misread of what Trump is like.
00:14:56.000 Trump likes winning.
00:14:57.520 Trump is not here to have a nice scuffle with Mark Carney
00:15:01.520 because he thinks it's really going to flex his skills.
00:15:03.960 He doesn't care.
00:15:04.980 He's the president of the United States.
00:15:06.200 He's not doing this for recreational purposes.
00:15:08.040 He's doing this to win so that he's known as a good president,
00:15:11.160 not to go up against tough people for no good reason,
00:15:14.480 just to make his life a little bit harder.
00:15:17.380 But Rupert finishes here saying,
00:15:18.940 also, many conservative supporters are Trump fans and they want Polyev to be more like Trump,
00:15:24.100 although many are quiet about it now.
00:15:26.420 They would have been rejoicing had Trump said he'd rather go up against Polyev in a negotiation.
00:15:31.820 So it's amusing they are trying to be more anti-Trump than the other guys.
00:15:35.120 Not at all true.
00:15:37.120 Every conservative, even if they like Trump, if they don't like Trump,
00:15:41.960 would know that that would be bad for Polyev to be seen as the person that Trump wants to negotiate with.
00:15:47.940 The liberals would be saying,
00:15:49.460 see, Trump knows he can make Canada the 51st state if Polyev is in,
00:15:53.480 even though, again, the 51st state thing is a joke.
00:15:56.680 Trump does it to throw people off balance.
00:15:58.320 There is so much documentation to the fact that Trump likes to mess with people
00:16:02.800 while he's negotiating with them to get them to leave their,
00:16:06.660 to take their focus off the thing that actually matters and focus on this ancillary thing.
00:16:12.120 But Rupert finishes here saying,
00:16:13.420 bottom line, Trump's so-called endorsement of Carney is not going to play well for the conservatives
00:16:17.860 in negotiating with Trump or moving the dial as far as the polls are concerned.
00:16:22.180 They handle Trump very poorly.
00:16:24.700 I just disagree.
00:16:25.900 I think there is a type of conservative influencer now,
00:16:29.740 and I like some of the stuff Rupert says.
00:16:31.580 I disagree with some of the stuff she says.
00:16:33.380 Well, there's a type of conservative influencer who I find is just saying stuff for American attention
00:16:39.020 or for the attention of the most conservative people.
00:16:42.500 By the way, I'm more conservative than all these people,
00:16:44.840 and that's not like being arrogant or braggadocious.
00:16:48.460 I'm just a very socially and physically conservative guy through and through.
00:16:52.500 No, this is not hurting Polyev,
00:16:56.480 and it's not going to make a bunch of people who like Trump suddenly leave Polyev because he didn't get the endorsement.
00:17:03.420 Everyone understands the subtext.
00:17:05.660 Nobody is only going to vote based on what a foreign leader says,
00:17:08.980 even if they like that foreign leader.
00:17:10.580 It's silly to say that this is somehow not going to hurt the conservatives in the polls.
00:17:16.260 Rupert is also somebody who thinks that Polyev saying that Russia shouldn't be added back to the G7 to make it the G8 again is a big mistake.
00:17:24.580 No, it's not.
00:17:25.720 How many people do you think are hinging their vote based on whether or not Polyev wants Russia to be part of the G8 again?
00:17:32.580 Again, by the way, foolish move.
00:17:36.000 You shouldn't invite them back because they don't deserve it.
00:17:39.240 Obviously, you shouldn't invite a country back for invading another country,
00:17:42.800 and no, it's not Ukraine's fault for provoking the Russians.
00:17:46.120 Didn't happen.
00:17:47.540 But yeah, it's just I find a lot of these people just are too online,
00:17:50.600 and they give very online advice.
00:17:52.600 Here's another person, and again, I don't disagree with them all that often,
00:17:58.280 but this guy contrarian says,
00:18:00.000 Trump just destroyed Pierre Polyev.
00:18:01.940 That's what he gets for sucking up the woke mob and becoming a liberal himself.
00:18:05.840 I knew this was going to happen.
00:18:07.400 Biggest miscarry in political history.
00:18:10.500 How has Polyev become more liberal?
00:18:13.580 I could name a couple of areas where I think that Polyev could be more conservative on the issue,
00:18:18.440 but since becoming leader, unlike O'Toole, he's actually moved more conservative on several issues
00:18:24.480 than he's moved liberal.
00:18:26.220 I don't think he's really moved liberal on any issues since he's become leader.
00:18:30.420 And so what is this idea that because Trump's not backing him now,
00:18:34.320 that there's just going to be this big collapse of people on the right saying,
00:18:37.520 well, I can't trust Polyev anymore because Trump doesn't like him.
00:18:40.280 That's not how people vote.
00:18:42.480 I don't know why I have to say this.
00:18:43.960 And he ended up agreeing with me, but I just wanted to highlight this take too.
00:18:49.340 Like he ended up somewhat agreeing that I think he believed I had a good point,
00:18:52.800 but Mr. Sunshine Baby here said,
00:18:55.240 the more Pierre tries to distance himself from Trump, the more he slashes his existing support.
00:19:00.280 Trump basically just endorsed Mark Carney.
00:19:02.260 Check and mate, unfortunately.
00:19:04.180 Will Pierre try and brush up to Trump?
00:19:05.980 No.
00:19:06.580 Will Pierre try and create more distance under the guise of Canada first?
00:19:09.800 Yep.
00:19:10.520 Believe the polls.
00:19:11.320 Don't believe the polls.
00:19:12.060 I think the sooner Carney calls the election, the better his chances are.
00:19:15.480 Four more effing years of liberal government.
00:19:17.780 I can't even buy American whiskey or drink the feeling away because they took it off the shelves.
00:19:23.420 Again, I'm just going to say no, no.
00:19:26.640 Why does this hurt Trump?
00:19:28.360 Or sorry, why does this hurt Polyev?
00:19:29.960 It's people who are too online, I find, just personal opinion,
00:19:34.900 who believe that because there's a lot of hyperbolically conservative people online,
00:19:38.800 and I say hyperbolically because many of the people aren't even that conservative on all the issues,
00:19:43.020 but they just act very hardcore because those people have a very big pro-Trump kind of a feeling
00:19:48.780 that by Polyev doing this, he's going to lose all those people.
00:19:52.460 Again, all of those people understand subtext.
00:19:55.160 All of those people do not base who they vote on in Canada based on who they like in American politics the most
00:20:03.540 and whether or not they endorsed or not.
00:20:05.580 It's a different ballgame, and things do not work the way they do online.
00:20:09.120 Real life is real life, and online politics is a very strange world of people who are, you know,
00:20:15.260 very invested in their opinions, very sure of themselves.
00:20:19.640 At the same time, when you actually go to the general public and they see that clip,
00:20:23.420 do they see this as, oh, like, Polyev has lost his conservative credentials,
00:20:27.320 or do they see it as Mark Carney is perceived as a weakling by Trump?
00:20:31.620 Maybe I can't trust Mark to be the negotiator in a new deal with the Americans.
00:20:36.320 So anyways, that should be it for me today, guys.
00:20:39.380 I just wanted to go over this issue because it is a big deal,
00:20:41.940 and I think so many people, right and left, are misreading what the effect is going to be.
00:20:46.340 Obviously, there's tons of people who also know that this is going to help the conservatives,
00:20:51.260 but it kind of shocks me how many people think this is going to be helping the liberals.
00:20:54.800 And I didn't just highlight a few of those people, like, to pick on them.
00:20:57.680 It's just it was representative of a lot of people posting the same thing from the right or the left
00:21:02.480 that this is going to be very bad for Polyev.
00:21:05.020 It's not read a poll, talk to normal people, that people do not care.
00:21:11.300 Like, it's going to help them.
00:21:12.420 It's Canadian politics.
00:21:13.560 I find Canadian politics can be very anti-American in a silly way.
00:21:18.780 At the same time, based on the reality we live in,
00:21:21.980 this is extremely bad for Mark Carney and the liberals to be getting this endorsement
00:21:25.620 because it's clearly backhanded, even though Trump is being earnest.
00:21:30.020 Anyways, so like, share, subscribe, do all that great stuff, leave a comment,
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