The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - August 18, 2026


Unions Angry At Carney - Trade Strategy and Chinese Cars a Massive Issue!


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00:00:00.000 Prime Minister Mark Carney is in big trouble right now with Canada's private sector trade
00:00:05.480 unions. His liberal elbows up trade strategy has put him between a rock and a hard place
00:00:11.220 where no matter what he does, they're probably still going to be mad at him. If he signs a trade
00:00:17.180 deal with President Donald Trump and the Americans, which seems kind of unlikely at this point,
00:00:21.840 they're probably not going to like it. And if he doesn't get a deal, they're still not going to
00:00:26.360 like it because they are currently suffering under heavy auto tariffs. There's other things
00:00:30.820 that they're also mad about, which I'm going to get into in a bit here. But first, I want to
00:00:34.860 introduce you to the current president of Unifor. This is Lana Payne. This is a post from 2019. I
00:00:42.240 just want to get you guys to know the flavor of who this person is. Here she is holding up an
00:00:48.380 I am voting to stop Scheer sign. So yes, very much not a conservative. And yet the union is
00:00:56.980 very much not a fan of the liberals right now because of just how badly they're currently
00:01:02.040 fumbling the trade talks. Because as it's being reported by many media outlets, but I'm just going
00:01:07.540 to use Mario's posting of it here just to keep it simple. The liberals are negotiating to only
00:01:13.040 slightly reduce auto tariffs right now. Mario Zalaya here says, breaking, liberals are attempting
00:01:19.420 to negotiate the proposed U.S. auto tariffs from 25% to 15%. Auto industry insiders have told the
00:01:27.780 liberals if they accept 15%, auto plants will close after their current model production is
00:01:32.940 finished. Doomsday for the Canadian auto industry. And that makes sense. You would think, well,
00:01:39.040 it's lower, shouldn't they be more likely to stay? No, they are currently holding out,
00:01:45.140 hoping that they can get to zero tariffs. And the problem is, if we only slightly reduce auto
00:01:51.120 tariffs, and we actually reduce aluminum and steel tariffs either to zero or near zero,
00:01:56.720 not that any of this is on the table, that would actually be worse for the auto sector, because
00:02:00.560 why would Americans ever import Canadian cars? If the steel and aluminum is cheap,
00:02:05.620 you can just import that and then build the cars in the U.S. rather than building a car in Canada
00:02:10.720 and then having it subjected to a 50% importation tariff. That doesn't make any sense at all.
00:02:17.260 But now let's move on to this press conference that just happened with Lana Payne, where she
00:02:23.100 sounds a lot like Pierre Polyef. Now, obviously, she's not just full on saying Mark Carney's doing
00:02:28.640 a bad job and the liberals are doing a bad job and they're messing this up. They're never going
00:02:32.940 to say that. They obviously need to keep a somewhat good working relationship with the
00:02:38.460 Liberal government, but when I say she sounds like Pierre Polyev, she starts listing off all the
00:02:43.700 things that Polyev and his critic for Canada-U.S. relations, Shavala Majumdar, always brings up
00:02:48.880 that Carney is making concessions for absolutely nothing and is making it less likely that we're
00:02:55.400 going to be able to get the auto tariffs off. But before I get to this video right here,
00:02:59.980 I just want to remind you guys, if you like the show, make sure to leave a like on the video, subscribe if you're not yet a subscriber, hit the like, the hype button if you're on mobile, leave a comment with what you think about all this.
00:03:11.460 And of course, consider hitting the join button and become a monthly contributing member of the channel if you want to help make this whole thing more sustainable for me.
00:03:19.560 But now let's go to Alana Payne from this morning talking about the current trade situation.
00:03:25.020 So it's really important that Canada actually doesn't get into a situation where we're giving concessions.
00:03:31.920 We have a lot in this country that the U.S. needs.
00:03:35.800 They rely on energy from Canada.
00:03:37.740 They rely on potash from Canada.
00:03:39.800 They rely on aluminum for Canada.
00:03:42.160 And the rationale of being able to have access to their market to build cars here and then sell them to the United States
00:03:48.900 is that we also give them a lot of things so that they can build
00:03:53.320 and have a manufacturing sector in the U.S. too.
00:03:57.520 And for 60 years, that is the way we have operated together.
00:04:01.600 And now we have a president of the United States
00:04:03.900 who would like to do things differently.
00:04:05.980 The reality is the only way we work through that is to show the U.S.
00:04:10.020 we actually have a common problem here.
00:04:12.620 Canada is not the problem in this trade war.
00:04:15.100 the we have been ceding ground in our market a 100 billion dollar auto market to importers from
00:04:24.700 all over the world who don't contribute one penny to jobs in canada to building up the
00:04:30.860 manufacturing footprint in canada and the u.s faces the same problem do you understand what
00:04:36.660 she's saying here and as you can see up here from the title of the cpac recording it says
00:04:41.960 Unifor President on Future of Stellantis Brampton Assembly Plant. Now, Stellantis has announced that
00:04:48.400 they will be sort of winding down the plant. They're going to be selling it to somebody else,
00:04:52.440 so the plant will still go on, but the buyer may not keep all the people working, and maybe they'll
00:04:58.020 eventually just end up not using them and selling it off later anyways themselves or just closing
00:05:03.460 the plants. You don't know what's going to happen. Apparently, there's still some lead time, so no
00:05:07.020 is going to lose their jobs right away. The reason Stellantis is closing somewhat has to do with the
00:05:12.620 U.S. tariffs. The main reason Stellantis is closing is because of Mark Carney's absolutely stupid
00:05:19.540 deal with China to remove tariffs on our seafood and canola for a single year in favor of, I believe,
00:05:28.040 seven plus years of China being able to dump EVs in Canada. Now, I'm a free trade guy, but Carney
00:05:35.480 agrees with me when he says that China's our biggest national security threat, or at least
00:05:40.000 he used to agree with me during the 2025 federal election, that's already a good reason to not have
00:05:45.760 free trade with China. Another reason is, is that they engage in intellectual property theft.
00:05:52.700 They do not have the R&D costs of other countries because they simply steal designs,
00:05:58.420 change them a bit, and then assemble them cheaply and send them over to our countries.
00:06:02.660 There are other countries in Asia with very cheap labor, cheaper labor than China.
00:06:09.080 China's labor is not even that cheap these days, but they can reduce costs for manufacturing because they can simply not go through the R&D process, steal all of it, and then just start assembling your designs with slight modifications made to them.
00:06:23.360 It's not something India, not something Vietnam, the Philippines or any of these other countries do en masse.
00:06:28.660 That's something that only really China ends up doing because they have, they at least have the perceived bullying power to make you not notice or not care about it.
00:06:37.740 But anyways, that is what Lana Payne is bringing up here.
00:06:41.860 That is a big problem.
00:06:43.580 Why are we not focused on the main problem that Canada and the U.S. both have, cheap stolen car designs being sold by China into our market?
00:06:53.420 And why are we not, you know, focused on trading with each other and being able to, like, you know, keep steel and aluminum cheap so that we can build our cars in North America, America easier?
00:07:04.560 Let's have a free and open trade because Canada and the U.S. do not have a problem with each other here.
00:07:09.560 It's Canada and the U.S. have a problem with Mexico and we have a problem with China.
00:07:15.460 We don't need to be opening fire on each other.
00:07:17.620 But now she's going to get into the fact that Carney has been giving up massive amounts of concessions and retaining no leverage in this conversation in favor of absolutely nothing.
00:07:28.780 Let's work on that together rather than the situation that we have right now, which is attacking Canadian workers, attacking the Canadian industrial economy and attacking our country itself.
00:07:41.380 And that's what the Canadian government needs to do in these negotiations with the U.S.
00:07:45.380 They have to be firm. But honestly, we have seen that the concessions that we have given already, whether it's the digital services tax, whether it is, you know, the discussions now on the Online Streaming Act, whether it's the discussions around the Gordie Howe Bridge, none of that has led to a place where we have been able to get the tariffs lifted.
00:08:05.660 So if we don't get a deal by August 19th, there is only one path for Canada in these trade talks, and that is to retaliate and to retaliate hard against these unjustified tariffs that we're currently facing.
00:08:19.260 Now, obviously, she's going to be taking the position of we have to retaliate hard.
00:08:24.460 And from her perspective, that's purely logical.
00:08:27.100 If you're in the auto sector, you only care about getting the auto sector tariffs lifted.
00:08:31.420 So you, of course, are going to say, go really hard.
00:08:34.360 You know, massively increased counter tariffs, maybe even increase them more than what their initial tariffs are, really freak them out.
00:08:42.360 Not a bad strategy, but the funny thing is Carney doesn't have the guts to do that.
00:08:46.320 Now, I don't favor that strategy necessarily.
00:08:49.260 I just favor, I have my own perspective.
00:08:51.960 I think we should have been doing far more horse trading from the very beginning of this in 2025.
00:08:56.620 Figure out a way where Trump can declare that he had a win.
00:09:00.020 And then you also get a win, but you just stay a little more quiet about it.
00:09:03.320 There's lots of ways where we could have bundled up a bunch of policies we don't even like in the first place, and we could have traded them earlier to get basically to zero tariffs, if not zero tariffs.
00:09:14.640 But the thing is, we've been messing around for a year and a half, blowing concessions simply to keep Trump at arm's length, because the truth is Carney's scared of Trump.
00:09:23.700 He is not scared of him in like a physical intimidation sort of in a way. He is scared of him because he thinks that Trump, he believes Trump is a non-sophisticate and Carney is the most sophisticated of them all. And he doesn't want to look outplayed by Trump.
00:09:37.820 So he is terrified of getting into the room and actually speaking to Trump.
00:09:42.580 He apparently talked to him on the phone today, but as indicated by his press conference yesterday,
00:09:47.640 he sounded like he was basically not prepared to talk to him about anything serious,
00:09:51.320 like pretending, oh, I'm going to talk to him about this.
00:09:55.260 I'd add a lot of ums and ahs because I'm doing a Carney impression.
00:09:58.700 Well, you know, we have this great announcement today on energy between Quebec and Newfoundland and Labrador.
00:10:05.480 I'll be talking to the president about that
00:10:08.380 and all the other things that Canada's doing right now.
00:10:11.420 Like, what are we talking about?
00:10:12.900 You're not getting anything.
00:10:14.080 And if he does get something,
00:10:15.140 if he gets a 15%, a 10% reduction in the auto tariff,
00:10:19.380 no, the only reason the auto sector is still here
00:10:21.720 is because subsidies are keeping the pain down for them
00:10:24.300 and they're hoping to get to zero.
00:10:26.400 If you say, yeah, forever, it's going to be 15,
00:10:28.200 they're not going to stick around.
00:10:29.520 They're just simply going to leave
00:10:30.920 and they're already leaving
00:10:32.260 and it's not even because of the tariffs.
00:10:33.540 It's because you already opened them up to unfair competition from China.
00:10:40.240 The thing is that we're not freaked out.
00:10:41.720 They're not freaked out about Germany, about the UK, about Korea, about Japan.
00:10:46.720 We also happen to build a lot of Hyundais in Canada.
00:10:50.040 They're freaked out about the Chinese EVs just being dumped.
00:10:53.720 Stellantis is an EV company because they can't compete with people who just do not have to put any money down to pay for their R&D that went into making the cars.
00:11:02.540 They also don't have to pay for the same amounts. They don't have to pay the same wages and the same like, you know, they don't have to like treat workers well. And you could just say, well, they're cheaper labor. That's an advantage. Fair enough. I don't even necessarily hold that against a country. You have cheap labor. Use it. China has like indentured labor. China has Uyghur Muslims in concentration camps processing minerals and stuff like that.
00:11:25.140 Why are we wanting to have free trade with these people?
00:11:28.300 But again, we have a big problem here for Mark Carney,
00:11:31.520 because if he loses someone like Lana Payne to point in the right direction here,
00:11:35.540 I always had to figure out what direction I'm supposed to point.
00:11:37.820 If he loses this lady, the lady who was saying never Andrew Scheer,
00:11:42.680 you are toast in southwest Ontario.
00:11:45.360 You are never going to win back Windsor.
00:11:47.000 You are never going to win back Oshawa area.
00:11:50.080 You are screwed.
00:11:51.240 And I think the Conservatives should be cozying up to the private sector unions right now.
00:11:56.160 I'm not the biggest union guy on the planet.
00:11:58.460 I find a lot of their labor policies, in fact, actually negatively affect their own workers in ways they don't realize.
00:12:04.300 But my goodness, obviously the bigger enemy right now is Mark Carney's crushing, skull crushing incompetence with negotiating a trade deal and the Chinese EV dumping.
00:12:15.160 At the same time, we have Chinese agents spying on NATO who were interns for Canada.
00:12:20.760 We have MPs who are clearly compromised by the CCP, and they're trying to mess with our elections and nomination races, and for some reason, we're trading with them. We should be doing what Polly have suggested. Burn the Chinese trade deal in front of Trump and say, hey, no auto tariffs, and I burn the Chinese EV dumping thing. I get rid of the whole thing.
00:12:42.080 I trade more with the U.S. and I stop trading as much with China if we sign this thing.
00:12:46.400 You could get it done in an afternoon that way.
00:12:48.820 Say, if we hadn't burned all these other concessions beforehand, we would have also had a lot more leverage.
00:12:53.440 And if we also didn't have crappy liberal economic policies, our economy would probably be doing better, which would also be giving us more leverage.
00:12:59.700 But, you know, beggars can't be choosers right now.
00:13:02.360 The thing is that the conservatives should be going to them and just demanding they burn the Chinese car deal and then maybe we can get some positive movement on autos.
00:13:12.680 And again, the worst case scenario for the auto sector is actually if the auto sector tariffs are only slightly reduced, but then aluminum and steel go to zero because there's no point in ever buying a Canadian car again because you can just import the cheap aluminum and steel, build the cars in America, and then not be subjected to an importation fee on the cars.
00:13:32.500 But that's what it sounded like that Carney was doing. He was going to only give slight benefits to the auto sector and mostly focus on steel and aluminum. No doubt the lumber industry is also very much not happy with any of this because apparently they've been getting completely ignored in all the conversations.
00:13:49.100 Liberals can make excuses all day long.
00:13:50.780 And I'm going to make another video on this.
00:13:52.280 They can make excuses all day long.
00:13:54.140 Trump's hard to deal with.
00:13:55.520 We can't deal with Trump.
00:13:56.720 This is too hard.
00:13:58.040 Like, you know, you just, you can't expect us to make a deal.
00:14:01.080 He's Trump.
00:14:01.760 He's erratic.
00:14:03.060 You signed up for this, dummy.
00:14:05.600 You were the one who said you're the Trump whisperer and you've dealt with him before.
00:14:08.900 You can't just suddenly say, well, I didn't know I was actually going to have to do it.
00:14:12.900 This is like the main thing you were elected for.
00:14:15.400 And suddenly you're like, well, you didn't expect that I was serious about that. You should have known when I said I can deal with Trump that I meant that Trump's crazy and I'm just going to pretend to deal with him the entire time. But that's the liberal line right now. Oh, you seriously expected that the man who said he could deal with Trump could deal with Trump?
00:14:31.360 Yes. Like, I didn't believe him, but a lot of, 44% of Canadians apparently believed him in the last federal election in terms of the national popular vote. This is also why the Liberals are starting to slide hard in Quebec. They are very trade insecure right now. They do a lot of manufacturing. They do a lot when it comes to aluminum and steel.
00:14:55.160 And right now, I think it's more of aluminum, but whatever, more of the mining on their side.
00:15:01.240 Not so great right now when he's telling them to get rid of their booze ban and telling them to soften their supply management rules.
00:15:07.540 I don't even like supply management, but apparently there's a constituents in Quebec that likes it, of course.
00:15:13.620 When you're being told to give that stuff up so we can get slightly lower auto tariffs that would still kill the industry anyways, what are we doing here?
00:15:22.900 it's like they're not even listening to the private sector they're not even listening to like
00:15:27.180 me who's an idiot i'm an idiot i don't know these things and when i say that i mean like i'm not
00:15:33.160 like literally an expert in autos and aluminum and steel and lumber the point is you don't have
00:15:39.160 to be you just have to realize like our economy works on thin margins just as all economies do
00:15:45.600 You don't sell. Our auto sector cannot take a 15% hit forever on its cars. That's kind of your
00:15:55.140 profit margin, or else you're going to have to raise the prices to the point where who would
00:15:58.900 want a Canadian built car? It seems like Carney's never thought of this. He just thinks like, well,
00:16:03.000 it's 25%. If I reduce it to 10, I've made life 40% better, so they should shut up about it.
00:16:08.720 It's like, they're not because they're not that stupid. But anyways, that should be it for this
00:16:14.480 video guys I will be back with more videos later today both on all the continued liberal excuse
00:16:20.620 making and insane rhetoric from people like Laura Babcock and Charlie Angus and then also I'm going
00:16:26.000 to make a video on this like very funny video of Nahid Nenshi in Alberta walking in a parade
00:16:30.920 to like no clapping to just crickets I'm going to probably add in a bunch of videos related to
00:16:37.100 Alberta a lot of posts into that one because I love Nahid Nenshi in a certain way I'm running
00:16:42.800 for the ucp nomination in calgary curry but i love nahi nenshi not for any positive reasons he is
00:16:49.100 just a sucking void of charisma and in a certain sense he's almost funner to watch because of that
00:16:55.020 it's fun to watch somebody who couldn't connect with a human being like he the only person he
00:16:59.660 could maybe have like charisma with chemistry with it's like a mr potato head uh figure that
00:17:06.040 probably be it because at least it won't ask him any questions back and and tell him he's boring
00:17:10.880 But anyways, with all that being said, thank you guys for watching.
00:17:13.780 Like, share, subscribe, leave a comment, and I'll see you guys all next time.