The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Watching Canada Election English Debate Live!

00:00:00.000 ahoy everyone sniper pfl like a second ago where's the freaking stream already boys and he's

00:00:11.560 was off by just a few seconds because i was like 15 seconds before going actually live so i'm here

00:00:16.940 what people are saying i'm late i'm not late i'm like literally right on time

00:00:22.680 everyone and if i need to i can always go um i can always like switch over to some sort of

00:00:31.080 other internet device to have better

00:00:33.500 to have a better like wi-fi connection but i think this should be good

00:00:38.880 so we have the leaders debate coming up in about 15 minutes here so what i have going on is just

00:00:45.940 the cpac stream on uh the side and i'll jump to that once we're actually going to the leaders debate

00:00:51.560 yeah people are saying stuttering video so let me know if that holds up it looks like things have

00:00:56.120 sped up again so if it's not um so if it lags a little bit later i can always switch over to a

00:01:03.140 device that will allow me to make it go a little bit smoother if i just basically use a hotspot

00:01:08.600 because my phone oddly enough gets better internet than in any hotel for some reason it's not the

00:01:14.060 hotel's fault it's just the fact that for some reason they always have like one wi-fi device on

00:01:19.900 one of the floors and you're definitely not on that floor but yeah so the the so it looks like

00:01:26.560 it's fantastic now uh but so okay resetting i'm going to be doing this in a style where when we do

00:01:36.300 the debate i'm not just going to like let it play and then just sit there like eating cheetos or

00:01:40.960 something like that i'm probably going to be stopping it as we go like every time a significant

00:01:45.740 statement is made we'll jump over and listen to or we'll talk

00:01:49.900 a little bit about it i'm not gonna make it so that like once i'm done the debate it's like

00:01:54.840 three hours after the actual debate um ended i'll like pause it for like 20 seconds to talk a little

00:02:00.420 bit maybe bring up a question and that's it uh you know digest the debate as we're going rather than

00:02:06.600 just playing it i'm just sitting there looking stupid uh since you don't probably don't want to

00:02:10.680 watch the debate and then you hear me break down each moment of it for two hours afterwards

00:02:14.740 we can also just we can just sort of stick to the debate pause it when it seems reasonable and then

00:02:21.480 keep moving on um well thank you for everyone joining

00:02:27.180 have a good amount of people and hey we have competition tonight as people are pointing out

00:02:34.060 uh the pleb reporter is streaming i think that juno news is streaming rebel news will be streaming

00:02:38.560 clyde do something is streaming probably literally every single youtuber and their grandmother is

00:02:43.680 streaming for this because it's the english debate and this only happens in theory every four years

00:02:48.540 unless it happens a little bit sooner like this year but yeah um oh someone has a question vicky

00:02:54.440 vane says why can you explain how the conservatives now have the more efficient vote this election

00:02:58.760 the problem is for the always about quebec in previous elections the liberals have heavily relied

00:03:07.880 on the gta in this election it looks like they may be trying to rely more on quebec now and so they

00:03:14.880 greatly need to grow their quebec vote and so more and more of their vote is going into quebec but if

00:03:20.800 it's not actually going up enough they're gaining five or six percent in the province but it's not really

00:03:25.320 unlocking many more ridings so overall they may go from you know 33 percent of the vote last time to

00:03:31.520 40 but that seven percent is like half of it is going into the province of quebec but that's not

00:03:37.580 enough for them to start winning lots of riding outside of montreal and so what we have um what we

00:03:43.660 have going on now is that the conservatives are starting to move into the gta and working class

00:03:48.400 neighborhoods and they're the party who their new seats that they've unlocked they're going to win by

00:03:52.860 37 percent or 41 percent whereas the liberals are doubling down so much on quebec that their

00:03:58.920 vote count is going up but mostly just in the city of montreal and nowhere else that's always the

00:04:03.840 problem that the conservatives have had out west is that they keep that it's not even that they're

00:04:09.040 playing to them o'toole betrayed western voters constantly but because of just the way that the

00:04:15.360 election was going he increased the vote in in alberta and in saskatchewan so he won by literally

00:04:21.440 dictatorship type numbers in saskatchewan and alberta but that didn't really mean anything

00:04:28.000 so they won the popular vote but it's because they were winning ridings with massive margins

00:04:32.660 whereas it looks like now the liberals are actually doing better in alberta they're doing better in

00:04:37.040 saskatchewan they're doing better in manitoba they're not really winning anything new but they're

00:04:41.580 doing better same thing in quebec they're winning more of the vote in quebec but they're not really

00:04:45.140 doing better in terms of seats but they are losing a

00:04:51.440 where the conservatives could start winning these vote slip margins of 39 percent

00:04:56.260 means at five uh again always let me know if

00:05:02.400 so yeah someone's saying that the audio is skipping i might even almost want to

00:05:08.660 to a hot spot even before this debate starts because i think that's the

00:05:13.080 better way of ensuring i'm not constantly hiccuping here

00:05:16.560 you guys might see it cut out for a second here as i do a switch

00:05:22.520 bear with me here everyone

00:05:31.020 i'm just moving it over to a hot spot and then you'll see it break up probably a lot

00:05:44.860 for a second and then i'll be jumping back on

00:05:47.560 almost forgot my phone has to be on a wi-fi has to have the wi-fi open to go for a hot spot

00:06:00.040 and we are t minus nine minutes away from the debate starting

00:06:14.500 okay there we go okay it's going to cut out for a second here

00:06:30.040 okay perfect we should have much better stability here in just a second

00:06:39.500 i guess we have the leaders moving in for the debate right now

00:06:47.380 um i will bring the audio in for cpac this kind of rolls in front of people at home

00:06:52.760 just very quickly take a listen you see there steve pakin shaking their hands he will be

00:06:57.600 moderating the debate steve pakin a well-known journalist in ontario anchor uh with tv ontario

00:07:03.900 uh laurie what do you think i actually really like the choice of steve pakin here i think he

00:07:10.860 actually is a pretty fair guy when i've seen him on tbo even though i've heard he's actually

00:07:15.240 privately quite liberal so uh good question from uh lower works 31 who says you have been in nepean

00:07:25.880 what's your take on how the nepean and canada ridings look for swinging to conservatives nepean

00:07:31.200 is actually winnable even though we have um we have mark carney as the liberal candidate riding

00:07:37.920 barbara ball is doing pretty well like i was in a poll where not too much inside baseball here

00:07:43.520 but i looked at the charts and we only had 18 of the vote in this one poll area previously in the

00:07:49.740 2021 election and this time you'd go down a street and there'd be a bunch of conservatives and there'd

00:07:54.980 be some liberals and the next street would have a bunch of liberals and some conservatives like i

00:07:59.340 would give it that the liberals were probably going to win that area at the same time so like

00:08:04.340 the liberals might have been more might be more likely to win that poll area but the fact that it's

00:08:11.480 tight in those polls mean is that the polls that were already good for conservatives are going to

00:08:16.220 be fantastic for conservatives i even heard that the neighborhoods that have a heavier chinese

00:08:21.700 population are swinging wildly conservative even though they went very liberal last time

00:08:25.880 because of the issue of crime being so bad

00:08:28.380 yeah peter russell says uh steve pakin has bad tds but other than that he's solid

00:08:44.340 yeah no doubt you're gonna someone like that would really really hate donald trump but at the same time

00:08:49.960 i've i have appreciated the sorts of people he'll have on this show to interview

00:08:53.620 in fact i think some of the famous first interviews of jordan peterson was steve pakin

00:08:58.740 having him on for small debates so that's nice i assume that this is just them doing audio setup and

00:09:05.640 uh some notes first impose himself on the debate kind of set the tone a little yeah um so what do you

00:09:11.360 guys think is going to happen in the debate i think that and i said this in my video earlier today

00:09:16.600 the conservative or polyev kind of went down back a little bit he wasn't being super super forward

00:09:24.720 because he was wanting to basically save himself for this debate

00:09:28.500 why telegraph all your best attacks in the french debate when the conservatives could literally

00:09:33.640 increase their vote share in quebec by seven percent and they would win maybe one extra seat

00:09:37.920 quebec is just a weird province where there are sections of the province that goes very

00:09:42.520 conservative the border with maine there is quebec city a couple seats go conservative and then

00:09:46.620 nothing else for the conservatives to break into other areas they'd need massive higher numbers of

00:09:51.240 votes like in montreal for example to prove an example to prove my point there are writings like

00:09:56.200 papineau and verdun that have conservatives only at four percent or six percent in a given election

00:10:01.800 so there's no way of winning a montreal seat except for somewhere like a uh a mount royal

00:10:08.520 so when you increase your vote share you're not coming anywhere closer to winning a montreal seat

00:10:13.660 yeah there's some suburban writings he could maybe win but we're really splitting hair so why if you're

00:10:18.780 polyev blow all of your best attack lines in the french debate that then carney's people can prepare

00:10:24.620 for for the next debate so he kind of just stayed there seemed nice girded up his incumbent writings and

00:10:30.100 then he let blanchette go after uh carney in that debate for some reason i would say that

00:10:36.200 like um sing really blew it because although he went after carney a few times it just really wasn't

00:10:41.340 that great he never really hit him over anything and if you guys are wondering about the uh the audio

00:10:45.880 they are still doing audio checks for the debate so i'm just not uh i just don't have the audio turned

00:10:50.760 on right now minmax123 for five dollars says everyone should go to the madras uh mondars a hindu temple

00:10:59.940 and engage hindu voters or hold a sign they should know a vote for the liberals is a vote for calistan

00:11:04.660 and polyev actually had a really good post-debate answer on calistan where he never mentioned it but

00:11:11.380 he basically says that sure we can have a lot of uh we can people can come to canada and join our

00:11:17.440 country and our economy and our culture just don't bring your foreign conflicts here and there is

00:11:21.840 nobody but the calistanis that he was talking about there which is very smart because hindu voters

00:11:27.240 after evangelical christians are the most reliable conservative bloc do not let the calistanis mess that up

00:11:33.800 because the best you're going to do by pandering to calistanis is win a few more sikh votes because

00:11:39.100 the sikhs don't like calistanis either they're they're just dweebs to them they're just obnoxious

00:11:44.340 larpers pretending that they're fighting for a country for their own country and you're like dude

00:11:48.900 you're in surrey bridge columbia you're in abbotsford you're in brampton you're not you're not doing

00:11:56.540 anything here anyways but thank you leslie 91 for the 2799 super chat if pierre doesn't win does he

00:12:03.880 stay opposition in parliament uh i assume i actually assumed that he would actually hold on

00:12:10.220 because i think the threat frankly of somebody like doug ford coming in as the uh as the leader

00:12:17.220 would make everyone just be like stick with polyev even if a bunch of people really don't like polyev

00:12:21.840 or they get annoyed that he didn't win after the election do you want doug ford to be the leader

00:12:25.620 i think that's actually polyev's best asset if he doesn't win this election for staying in

00:12:30.420 is that nobody likes doug ford arctician says i hope here we'll make none of it conservative again

00:12:37.080 yeah fantastic none of i like i love how weird the territories are with their votes that they'll go

00:12:41.860 literally in all three directions i guarantee the greens will win out territory one day um verinder sidu

00:12:48.800 thank you for the two dollar super chat verinder this is going to be fun let's discuss soon

00:12:53.700 absolutely and so the debate's not live yet they're just setting up still for the next couple of

00:12:58.940 minutes i will then turn on the audio for the cpac um for cpac in a second here and then we uh then i

00:13:07.260 will be going through the debate that way and i will be pausing it at moments when it feels

00:13:12.200 substantial enough to do something like that i'm not just going to throw out uh i'm not just going to do

00:13:18.220 a bunch of uh like pause every five seconds be like i disagree with that i'll be like more

00:13:22.680 nuanced with how i pause like pause after a topic or pause after a really stupid uh point

00:13:29.900 thank you monster zero zero zero for the two dollar super chat if i was at home uh and you super

00:13:37.560 chatted me without including a message i would have done my normal thing of finding a knickknack

00:13:41.800 in my studio to show people off that they don't know about but thank you for the support cassidy

00:13:49.260 ireland says the nixon versus kennedy debate was first televised debate in the u.s radio listeners

00:13:54.680 want nixon watchers want candy attractiveness and hype matters to the point americans even elect

00:13:59.680 uh even elected a catholic huge and yeah and i think that the good thing is that poly of should have

00:14:06.280 the visuals on his side but he should also have the argumentation hopefully

00:14:10.420 john roberts asks why do you like jasmine i honestly i've never really watched her show and

00:14:21.120 that's not to be like nasty or anything i just don't watch other people's shows that much i'll

00:14:25.700 watch like frank vaughn even though me and frank don't agree on everything i just find his presentation

00:14:29.720 interesting i watch chris at the great canadian bagel a lot i will watch some true north or

00:14:35.440 juno news shows i'll watch a couple rebel clips here and there um i just don't watch sometimes

00:14:41.140 other people's shows if they do something similar because naturally we end up covering a couple of

00:14:45.460 the same topics and then i end up seeming like you know you almost get tired of hearing about it

00:14:50.260 milo and od the bocci for five dollars thank you for that cbc news is just a straight up propaganda

00:14:58.500 armed liberal party they are straight up blatant anti-conservative defund the cbc i absolutely agree

00:15:04.480 and what was super egregious from katie simpson the other day was going to um going i was going to

00:15:12.060 the the the white house press briefing room and saying trump hasn't said anything about the 51st

00:15:18.120 state in a while can you say he likes the 51st state thing into this microphone it's like it was

00:15:22.800 not a news story why did you go to the white house and you're just like can you say the thing about the

00:15:26.960 51st state again so we can get it back in the headlines and that's that's exactly what happened

00:15:31.020 but i'll bring up the uh debate in here now because obviously we are going into it

00:15:35.400 are here and ready to go mark carney pierre pollievre yves francois blanchet and jagmeet singh

00:15:41.600 they will debate the major challenges facing our country from tariffs to the cost of living public

00:15:47.260 safety energy good evening everybody i'm steve pekin your moderator for tonight's debate

00:15:54.520 john roberts says who else thinks jasmine is hot well thank you for giving the 279 throw that up in

00:16:02.800 front of people so i guess everyone can do take the poll that john's putting up

00:16:06.740 this is the 2025 federal leaders debate

00:16:13.120 oh and by the way the audio is not cutting out i was just muting it in montreal for what i'm sure

00:16:22.020 will be a memorable evening our first theme is tariffs and threats to canada and we will begin

00:16:27.740 with a round of questions you will each have a minute to answer and then we'll go to open debate

00:16:32.340 and the first question goes to mr carney okay what is the starting point for negotiations mr carney

00:16:39.140 with the united states if as you have stated our relationship with the u.s is over as we know it

00:16:46.240 uh well first steve uh may i thank you and also thank uh fellow leaders for their service to canada

00:16:51.960 uh people at home for taking the time to watch um i just want to underscore the premise of your

00:16:57.280 question because i think the relationship that we've had with the united states relationship over the

00:17:01.900 course of almost the last four decades which has been one of steadying increasing integration has

00:17:06.540 fundamentally changed because the president is looking to fundamentally uh restructure the trading

00:17:10.740 system so the starting point has to be one of strength it has to uh show that we have control of

00:17:20.020 our own economic destiny has to have a clear plan here at home uh to build this economy to diversify our

00:17:27.740 trading partners with like-minded countries and also has to have a position of strength in terms of

00:17:33.300 our reaction to the u.s unjustified tariffs and that's why we have put in place counter tariffs that

00:17:39.300 have maximum impact in the united states and minimum impact here at home mr poliev would you do anything

00:17:46.020 differently well first of all thank you steve and thank you to our fellow uh contestants here today

00:17:53.180 it's an honor to be here what would i do different well i'll start by what i would do the same i think

00:17:58.760 we do need to counter the american tariffs with our own to deter this economic aggression we must make

00:18:05.340 clear that we will always be sovereign and independent what would i be doing differently well

00:18:10.560 we need to be in a position of strength the liberal government has weakened our economy with anti-energy

00:18:16.860 laws red tape and high taxes that have driven 500 billion dollars out of our country into the united

00:18:22.780 states and made us incapable of shipping our resources overseas that weakness threatens our ability to

00:18:31.260 stand up for ourselves so what would i do i would cut taxes red tape and approve our resource projects

00:18:37.900 so that we can get our goods to market and bring home the jobs so we stand up to president trump

00:18:43.820 from a position of strength that was honestly the perfect answer from him on that he didn't he went

00:18:50.620 for it from a position that the liberals have made us vulnerable and not playing into the game that

00:18:56.300 carney's actually the real problem the question steve uh we've seen uh what for a lot of people feels

00:19:02.060 like a betrayal when we look at the united states i grew up in a border town i grew up in windsor and we

00:19:07.020 saw how connected we were as a city and as a community people lived on one side of the border worked on the

00:19:12.940 other people traveled back and forth all the time we're in the automotive capital of canada and we knew how

00:19:18.860 important it was to be able to build cars in canada but we saw that those cars went back and forth across

00:19:24.220 the border seeing what donald trump did to attack canada in this unprovoked way without any justification

00:19:30.940 really felt like a betrayal and so canadians now are right to say well we don't really trust

00:19:35.740 donald trump at this point and we can't really have a lot of faith in him so when it comes to our

00:19:39.500 arctic sovereignty and our security we need to make decisions that are in our best interest and no longer be

00:19:45.100 so dependent and so reliant on the us and that's what i would advocate for making sure we are resilient

00:19:51.020 independent and less dependent on the united states mr so so far he has a complete five out of

00:19:56.860 ten response i would give carney and i think that paul able to nine out of ten first we all welcome

00:20:04.380 in quebec and montreal you have me because i try not to speak english in montreal however i think we should

00:20:11.020 never underestimate the threat that mr trump poses on quebec economy and canada economy and mexico

00:20:17.500 economy but we must acknowledge the fact that the economy of quebec is built differently the challenges

00:20:25.100 are not the same the necessity for quebec to have at least partly its own voice in the negotiation is

00:20:31.740 important the difference between quebec and canada is very important in terms of economy but also in

00:20:37.580 terms of identity and language and values and who we are and we want to handle immigration so we have

00:20:45.100 the right to be different and if this difference is being respected by whoever becomes prime minister

00:20:50.380 of canada we will be reliable partners in order to achieve the best possible negotiation and protect

00:20:56.860 ourselves and our economies as partners merci monsieur blanchet okay we now move into open debate before

00:21:03.820 they get into that this is where i'm going to be pausing stuff so i think that poly of and i'm not

00:21:08.700 just biased towards conservatives easily had the best response there on trump he didn't just do that

00:21:14.060 well you know we gotta gird ourselves up and we gotta stand up strong because carney's response is fine

00:21:19.740 it's just fine it's what you would expect from him i think poly of did a good things these guys were

00:21:24.140 the ones who opened the door for this becoming a threat now i don't really like everyone doing the kind of

00:21:30.300 anti-american we gotta use retaliatory tariffs against them okay retaliatory tariffs are stupid

00:21:36.140 because you're just punishing your own people at the same time i understand why poly of has to do that

00:21:40.540 and i think he ended up saying something different that gets people's attention carney said what

00:21:44.700 you'd expect singh was barely there and blanchette shouldn't be here because he doesn't actually care

00:21:49.260 about the rest of the country other than quebec and so his answer was extremely typical actually

00:21:54.060 maybe during these pauses i'll do like a super chat just to catch up on them as i go

00:21:58.060 uh epic encore says canadian brazilian i fled socialism but now see canadian repeating brazil's

00:22:03.500 mistakes rising crime corruption and economic decline time for change well and absolutely tons

00:22:09.900 of people who come from like poland and come from eastern europe or uh former socialist uh south

00:22:15.260 american country say like it's literally the same thing in canada it starts off small starts off the

00:22:19.500 government just saying oh we just need this from you we just need you to comply with this new

00:22:24.060 economic uh with this new economic program we have this new uh we just have this new language

00:22:28.460 law we just need to give up guns and it never ends there it just keeps getting worse and thank you

00:22:32.940 normstrom for the uh ten dollar super chat there uh but i will jump back to the uh to not live but

00:22:39.580 we'll go back and i'll start about mr carney with you and then we go from there do you still support

00:22:45.340 dollar for dollar tariffs even if they ultimately threaten canadian jobs and businesses uh

00:22:50.460 uh no and in fact we've already moved off from dollar for dollar tariffs um you know we have to

00:22:56.300 recognize and i think we all do the united states economy is more than 10 times the size of the

00:23:00.620 canadian economy and the principle uh in terms of our counter tariffs is to have maximum impact in the

00:23:06.700 united states as i said a moment ago minimum impact here so we have to think about the impact on canadian

00:23:12.540 businesses i'll give you one example if i may uh in the auto sector the way we've designed those auto

00:23:17.180 tariffs um is that canadian automakers if they maintain production here if they maintain their

00:23:23.980 investments here i when i say canadian automakers i mean automakers that have jobs and plants and

00:23:29.820 production in canada then they can have lower tariffs on what they ship to the united states we

00:23:36.300 create a huge incentive for them in order to do that we also have carved out the canadian auto parts

00:23:41.820 sector last point i know you're pressed for time uh the canadian auto parts sector so that it can

00:23:46.780 remain competitive uh with the united states we're focused on maximizing canadian jobs maximizing the

00:23:52.300 harm in the u.s um so that we get them where we need mr polly everyone in then mr say mr carney um you

00:24:00.060 claim that you want our country to respond with strength but after the last decade half of which time

00:24:07.660 you've been justin trudeau's economic advisor our economy is weaker than ever before it's been the

00:24:13.580 worst growth in the g7 we've lost a half trillion dollars of investment south of the border you

00:24:18.780 supported blocking pipelines in canada that gave donald trump in the u.s a near monopoly over our energy

00:24:27.660 and now you want to keep in place bill c69 the liberal no new development law that blocks us from

00:24:37.420 shipping our resources overseas how could you possibly think it's a good idea to give the

00:24:43.420 americans a continued monopoly on our energy projects when you have seen how much these liberal

00:24:50.540 policies have weakened our country over the last decade yes um so let's go to my record my record is

00:25:00.460 a month long as prime minister and this goes to the heart of coming to the americans with strength but

00:25:05.420 doing the right thing for canada within the first week as prime minister i sat down with all the

00:25:10.300 premiers of the provinces and territories as well as the leaders of the indigenous peoples

00:25:15.980 got an agreement with all the provinces and territories doesn't happen very often got an

00:25:19.740 agreement for them to have one canadian economy instead of 13 first point secondly to commit the

00:25:25.180 federal government to do its part by canada day so free trade in canada by canada day thirdly the

00:25:31.020 federal government to commit with respect to project request i'm getting to it thirdly one

00:25:37.820 project one review and relying relying that's on provincial yes it is possible and it is possible

00:25:43.980 on our system no uh it is it is agreed on under uh the impact assessment framework and we have a

00:25:51.340 cooperation agreement with british columbia already we're looking forward to them with the other promises

00:25:55.900 we will move forward of course we agree around having a strategic response to the united states

00:26:03.340 but what i'm concerned about is what we're doing here in canada we are already seeing threats to

00:26:07.740 our country in that just the threats alone of the tariffs have made canadians have lost their jobs

00:26:13.100 the threats of the tariffs that are in pace right now the threat the impact of those tariffs is that

00:26:17.900 we've lost jobs in steel aluminum in the auto sector people are already losing their jobs and while

00:26:23.260 mr carney you had time as you mentioned not very long time but as prime minister you showed us your

00:26:28.540 priorities the first thing you did is you had traveled you made a tax cut for billion millionaires

00:26:34.060 which was reversing on the capital gains so you gave a tax cut to millionaires but you didn't have time

00:26:39.420 to increase the amount that workers get on ei right now workers who are struggling and wondering

00:26:45.900 what am i going to do if i lose my job workers who've lost their job are saying how do i pay my bills

00:26:50.700 when ei only covers half of a worker's salary maybe 40 years ago that would have worked but right

00:26:56.300 now most workers are spending their entire salary just to pay the bills to pay their mortgage and

00:27:01.660 their rents and to put food on the table so ei is not good enough and it shows canadians that you

00:27:06.460 didn't make it a priority to protect those that are impacted by these tariffs that are a threat

00:27:11.420 because their jobs are lost we have honestly a good attack from jaggies and from the perspective that

00:27:16.620 you are more or less either saying one thing in french and another one in english you said in

00:27:22.060 british colombia in february that you would force oil and gas through pipelines through quebec either

00:27:29.900 we wanted it or not you would use emergency powers in order to do so and two days later in montreal

00:27:36.700 you said that you would never do that without the approval of quebec what's the point of using

00:27:42.540 emergency powers if you do have the agreement of quebec however i do agree with you it's important

00:27:49.180 to be very strong in front of mr trump uh however i would keep the dollar for dollar policy don't be

00:27:57.660 weak in front of mr trump and those uh counter tariffs have to be have to be targeted you have put out

00:28:06.700 already two billions of dollars for ontario auto industry car industry and the lumberwood industry

00:28:13.660 in quebec has already paid to united states two billions of dollars and you have not raised one

00:28:19.260 finger in order to help us let's get from mr poliev and then i'm reenacting dabbing caesar mr carney

00:28:25.180 refused to answer the question about pipelines just the other day he said that he doesn't necessarily

00:28:30.940 think we need to build pipelines let me tell you what that means right now the americans get 97 of

00:28:37.340 our oil 100 of our natural gas exports at big discounts we have to send canadian oil from western

00:28:44.140 canada through the states just to get it back to quebec because we don't have a pipeline and now

00:28:49.020 there's this law liberal law c69 which effectively bans pipelines the 14 biggest energy and resource

00:28:56.940 companies say it has to go if we're ever going to build another project and i asked mr carney why he

00:29:03.260 would keep in place this anti-pipeline law that effectively empowers donald trump to have a total

00:29:10.300 monopoly on our single biggest export why would you not repeal this liberal law isn't it because you

00:29:17.660 are exactly the same in the same mark carney is just a big power look at the liberal team that is now

00:29:24.620 making up your cabinet let's get it guys look at this man look how upset he already is that is

00:29:30.860 screenshot worthy the man looks like he is having an absolutely miserable time because he is the man

00:29:38.140 is being treated like somebody just said a bit ago thank you for the line he's being treated like a

00:29:42.460 human pinata response well let's uh let me pick up a couple of points that have been made the first

00:29:47.340 thing i did as prime minister was to cut the carbon tax uh that's the first thing second thing he has made

00:29:53.100 a commitment made a commitment that all proceeds all proceeds from our tariffs will go to workers

00:29:58.940 and those questions there were several points nothing so far i may if mr steve if i may redress i'm

00:30:05.660 trying to do it he's actually falling apart all proceeds go to workers and the uh firms most

00:30:11.580 effective and those proceeds are considerable third thing in i'm interested in solutions i'm interested in

00:30:16.940 getting uh energy infrastructure built that means pipelines that means carbon capture storage that

00:30:21.820 means electricity grids and here's how you do it and we've already moved in the first in the first

00:30:26.460 month cooperation agreements with the provinces guess what we are a federation you need to cooperate

00:30:31.340 with quebec you need to cooperate with the provinces you need to get first nations and indigenous people

00:30:36.380 buy-in you can do that through through the one project one review uh window that we put in place

00:30:42.860 at that first minister's meeting as well as if necessary using emergency powers to fulfill the federal

00:30:49.500 responsibility but not the unique these are vague agreements that don't mean it what you're saying

00:30:53.500 mr carney with respect is a total contradiction the no new development law c69 guarantees there will

00:31:01.500 not be one-stop-shop because it requires the government of canada to actually duplicate

00:31:07.500 the same project that is not true in fact mr saying the reality is we should have strong rules

00:31:21.740 enforced once we shouldn't have multiple levels of the environment that takes it takes now 17 years

00:31:28.460 to get a major project approved in this country that is why in the last 10 years we've had the worst

00:31:35.260 economic growth in our in in the entire pipeline we cannot afford change and the conservative plan

00:31:44.460 for change will include repealing the anti-pipeline law so we can get our money energy to markets other

00:31:50.140 than the united mr singh then mr carney while these two compete about who's more pro pipeline i think

00:31:54.540 what we need to do is i mean it's clear the liberals bought a pipeline that built a pipeline i don't know

00:31:58.700 what pierre is complaining about that's what they did i think what we need to do if we're talking about

00:32:03.340 energy in our country we need to build an east-west grid let's use our power as a nation to build a

00:32:09.180 national project that creates good jobs that strengthens us for the future where we connect

00:32:14.060 the low-cost energy from jurisdictions and provinces across this beautiful land and have low-cost energy

00:32:20.220 for businesses for people so we can build a stronger economy that's the the energy of the

00:32:25.500 is the political ideas of an 18 year old sociology student

00:32:29.100 the pipeline built yes tmx built that's why uh oil exports up 50 over the course last few years

00:32:34.940 secondly mr mr mr mr singh is absolutely right about the east-west grid grid interconnections which

00:32:41.100 is part of the energy corridor huge opportunities for this country we have to be able to do more than one

00:32:46.060 thing third point fundamental point we can give ourselves far more than donald trump can ever take

00:32:52.220 away if we have one canadian economy just look at that agreement we got with the provinces look at

00:32:58.460 what ontario and nova scotia have just announced in terms of their steps towards this this is within

00:33:04.140 our grasp mr blanchet what should we be prepared to concede in our negotiations with the united states

00:33:10.860 i want to be back to something that mr carney said you can't do something and the opposite and you can't

00:33:18.380 fill people's mind with nonsense quebec has by law its own environmental review institution

00:33:27.420 and you cannot through a federal decision even through a quebec government decision over go over

00:33:35.260 the bat as we call it if the bat says no just said it's no i know my good i know this is that in mind

00:33:44.780 this is the point this is if i may this is the point the federal government can do the following

00:33:50.380 which is to take the decision to abide by the decision of the quebec that that is within the

00:33:56.860 federal government's power that is known as cooperative federalism that's what we need

00:34:00.780 and do you understand one other point this is what we need if we i mean this is what we need to do in

00:34:05.500 a crisis we have more you see and then mr polly carney is only to stabilize himself when he can speak

00:34:12.220 like a bureaucrat every time he has the dynamics he falls apart for 14 years mr trump will be

00:34:20.700 90 years old not president no more and somebody somebody of course less terrible will be there

00:34:27.740 before you can even dream of having oil through this pipeline of yours we're less than a minute to

00:34:33.660 go mr polly ever promised you next listen after the last 10 years of liberals blocking pipelines

00:34:41.260 and killing jobs sounds wild we actually actually need to get things done we need to change and our

00:34:47.660 conservative plan for change will repeal the no new pipelines law it will create a true one-stop shop

00:34:54.300 set up ready uh shovel ready zones with pre-permitting so that we can approve lng liquefaction export

00:35:01.180 plants mines pipelines uh nuclear plants and also hydroelectric dams so that we can generate the power

00:35:10.460 we need to be strong self-reliant and stand on our own two feet for change less quick he's doing a lot

00:35:17.740 i'm when i pause it i'm going to be very sparing about it he's doing a lot because what he's trying

00:35:21.900 to do with his body language with what he's saying with the way he challenges paul with mark carney

00:35:26.700 is he goes after him like he's a boss in like uh doing an employee review talking about how carney

00:35:33.340 you're not making sense you say this this day and this is and then he kind of goes back to the

00:35:37.260 this is my strong stance i want to take carney's very peevish and kind of sensitive every time he

00:35:42.860 gets challenged and it looks so bad and then sings just obviously barely even there i'll just do again

00:35:49.340 one uh super chat keep uh caught up jaren kavish for 20 says love your videos and commentary

00:35:55.340 keep up the good work well thank you darren for supporting the show and hope you like the program

00:35:59.660 tonight quick word to mr carney okay quick word bringing it back to what we're talking about which

00:36:04.300 is tariffs the threats to canada how to negotiate we need these options we need these options to

00:36:10.380 build domestically to build one canadian economy we need to act we need to diversify our trade partners

00:36:17.180 that is our time okay you know my job tonight i gotta be the heavy guy here every now and then

00:36:21.020 making sure everybody comes to time and i'm keeping an eye as well on making sure that everybody gets

00:36:25.500 rough justice over here that i am like and our first debate up next affordability and the cost of living

00:36:35.420 our goal is to double the pace of housing construction

00:36:41.100 by open debate format and mr polyev you get the first question this time many provinces including some

00:36:46.380 provinces with conservative governments have ambitious housing targets none of which have been

00:36:51.420 met why do you think your housing plan will be any different let me start by talking to the young

00:36:57.740 people of the nation and those who are aspiring to homeownership it was only 10 years ago you could

00:37:03.900 buy an average house for 450 000 but in the last lost liberal decade housing costs have doubled rising

00:37:12.700 faster than in any country in the g7 and so now our youth cannot afford a home and our seniors are

00:37:19.420 worried about being evicted we can't afford a fourth liberal term of rising housing costs we need a change

00:37:24.860 and our conservative plan for change will one axe the federal sales tax on new homes two incentivize

00:37:33.100 municipalities to cut their construction taxes to bring houses down and cost by a hundred thousand dollars

00:37:39.340 that uh federal land for homes and four train up 350 000 young trades workers who can help build those

00:37:48.620 homes because you deserve a home and we're going to make it happen for a change also on the issue of

00:37:54.700 affordability missing you get the next question how do you bring down grocery prices in the midst of a

00:37:59.420 trade war i appreciate the i appreciate the question this is a big concern when i when i talk to canadians

00:38:05.500 they tell me they're really feeling squeezed from the cost of living that's one of the top

00:38:09.740 things that people tell me about people are saying i can't afford to buy groceries every time i go to

00:38:13.980 the grocery store it's just ongoing worry and and this feeling of anxiety that can i actually afford

00:38:20.540 the things that my family needs on top of that people are worried about the cost of homes i think

00:38:23.980 those are the two biggest things i hear so we we can do things about this other countries have taken

00:38:28.380 concrete steps we can put in a price cap on food essentials france has done it greece has done it

00:38:34.060 to great success it's brought down the cost of food significantly in both those jurisdictions we

00:38:38.780 can also ban corporate landlords from buying up the affordable homes to keep homes that are affordable

00:38:43.820 affordable by the way it's a conspiracy theory that corporate landlords take on the powerful

00:38:50.220 corporations that are ripping you off and we know that price gouging is one of the major reasons why

00:38:56.060 food prices are going up you're never going to hear pierre polyev or mr carney talk about the fact

00:39:00.780 that these are the corporations thank you mr singh that time mr blanchet i want to ask you about old

00:39:05.020 age security which will soon cost this country a hundred billion dollars annually we understand

00:39:10.300 you would like to expand it how would you pay for that we would want it to be just for everybody

00:39:15.580 because the liberals have created the discrimination against elders which are 65 to 75 years old having

00:39:22.780 10 percent less income from federal government than those who are over 75 but the best way to do it

00:39:29.900 is to have everybody pay its fair share in terms of tax which means that one should not be entitled to

00:39:37.020 hide money in fiscal paradise in order not to pay him or his clients or friends not to pay billions of

00:39:45.500 dollars in taxes that could be used to help the situation of elders those are things which are

00:39:52.620 supposed to be applied applied to by the way i am putting people in time out if they start bamming

00:39:57.980 sorry about that other ways to do it is to reduce the pressure on housing price to make sure that

00:40:05.740 the whole budget of elders and families and workers can afford houses which have uh increased dramatically

00:40:15.500 that's time for this one mr carney i want to ask you about housing which over the past decade has gone

00:40:20.540 from a problem to a crisis while the liberals were in power is your policy on getting homes built any

00:40:26.940 different from your predecessors and how uh this is one of the reasons why i entered this uh this

00:40:34.060 contest uh because of the housing crisis the cost of living crisis the housing crisis and the trump

00:40:38.700 crisis to help to help fix it there you go yeah trump's name the housing approach is fundamentally different

00:40:44.220 because we need a fundamentally different approach we need to build housing at a rate that we haven't

00:40:50.620 seen since the end of the second world war we do need a fundamentally different approach and with the

00:40:55.340 fundamentally different approach we can build an entirely new industry so the question is how now

00:41:00.700 mr polyev and i agree on some things okay i agree as well on reducing the tax on first time uh home

00:41:07.580 purchases as a way to buy but i am focused on increasing the supply of homes and doing that in

00:41:14.860 a way that uses canadian technology and modular refabricated housing that uses canadian lumber uh

00:41:21.100 including in reinforced timber and uses canadian workers and in all respects we're scaling up

00:41:28.060 to double the rate of home building thank you mr carney that's time we now move to open forum here

00:41:32.460 and mr singh you get the first comment many of you have pledged to cut the gst on many aspects of

00:41:38.780 buying a home and mr singh i want to ask you would you cut the gst on anything else in order to make

00:41:43.420 life more affordable absolutely in fact i'm the only one on this stage that fought to give people a gst

00:41:48.300 holiday interestingly while the gst holiday helps working class folks middle class folks by taking off

00:41:54.460 the gst off essentials the conservatives under pierre polyev voted against that they oppose the idea of

00:42:00.380 giving people actual folks that need help a tax break and would rather give millionaires a tax break

00:42:05.740 which shows you whose side he's on which is not surprising but what is surprising that mr carney

00:42:10.380 also said that giving people a break on their gst is a bad idea mr carney why do you think giving a

00:42:15.820 tax break to capital gains folks that earn more than a million dollars is a good idea but helping a

00:42:21.340 family afford their groceries helping people afford their bills for their internet their cell phone their

00:42:26.620 home heating giving them relief to take the gst off those is a bad idea but giving a tax break to

00:42:32.220 people who really only earn over more than 1.4 million dollars that's somehow a good idea okay

00:42:37.660 you wouldn't have that's your numbers you wouldn't have banning spammers by the way you really need to

00:42:41.340 deputize people as a moderate or something the reality is i just never had to do that cost doubled under

00:42:46.300 the liberal government while justin trudeau made exactly the same promises that you are now repeating

00:42:53.260 today he promised that he would double home building in fact home building went down he

00:42:58.460 promised that he reduced the cost in fact it went up and how here we are mark carney is asking for a

00:43:04.220 fourth liberal term repeating the exact same liberal promises that priced you out of a house just a few

00:43:11.580 weeks ago before the election the liberals voted against taking the gst off new homes and they have

00:43:17.660 continued to build up bureaucracies that block construction we need a change so that you can afford

00:43:23.180 a home and our change will be again to axe the sales tax on new homes incentivize municipalities

00:43:29.580 to speed up permits free up land and cut development costs train up 350 000 young people

00:43:35.660 who can be in the trades to build those homes and sell off the land that is going to be needed

00:43:39.980 in order to build homes that is a real plan a real plan for you to own a home and afford your life

00:43:47.100 for a change mr carney they're coming at you from both sides what do you say uh okay um i know it's

00:43:52.060 may be difficult uh mr polyev uh you spent years running against justin trudeau and the carbon tax

00:43:57.420 and neither they're both gone okay they're both gone um and we're in a person and we're in a very

00:44:04.380 different look i'm a very different person from justin trudeau having to say it doesn't really

00:44:09.660 mean and so how to draw results in the housing market you've got to change the model of building

00:44:16.460 you've got to increase the financing for uh housing developers 25 billion dollars on the table for

00:44:23.180 those housing developers 10 billion for deeply affordable homes cutting development charges in

00:44:29.580 half lowering the cost of the building of those homes by 20 percent in and lowering the emissions and

00:44:36.940 the run costs of those homes by another 20 percent this is how you drive affordability this is how you

00:44:43.100 bring young people back into the house exactly you claim to be very different from mr trudeau now the

00:44:52.380 point is to show that you are any better than mr trudeau you claim to have a lot of experience in many

00:44:58.620 things and you know things last time we had somebody saying that they knew things it was a senator's

00:45:04.860 and they killed the law that protected supply management because they knew better than us and

00:45:10.140 were elected by nobody exactly like you are today you say that you are a great crisis manager which one

00:45:18.380 i heard of nothing as far as i know brexit happened even if you were against it you say you are a great

00:45:24.940 negotiator what have you negotiated but fiscal paradises in bermudas or cayman islands you have to prove

00:45:33.500 something and you have to reveal what you own in those companies if you want people to believe you

00:45:40.140 mr singh you wanted it yes returning to the top very important obviously we need to build homes that

00:45:45.180 people can afford it subscriber only mr paul you've had the opportunity to show us what he could do

00:45:49.420 he was the minister of housing under stephen harper and during that time guess how many homes he

00:45:54.620 built he built six homes during that entire time this is not something you can try to build homes he built

00:46:00.220 200 000 200 this has been confirmed again and again he earned 200 homes that's it now the problem

00:46:06.060 though with mr carney as well he's laid out a plan the problem is is that when he was the chair of

00:46:11.340 brookville investments this is a company that made a strategic decision to buy up affordable homes in

00:46:17.260 cities like toronto where people were paying a decent rent and they purposely bought those homes kicked

00:46:23.420 out the tenants and jacked up the rents that is not someone you can trust sadly to deal with the housing

00:46:28.780 crisis when mr carney you profited off of it we're going to get responses here mr paul you have

00:46:32.860 first mr carney second first of all uh mr saying hold this up to remind you the toronto star the

00:46:38.860 toronto star debunked your false it was six homes and i appreciate neither liberals or ndp are very good

00:46:43.980 with math but in that year the year i was kind of the six which is great the year the year the year

00:46:49.660 let's let him answer in the year i was high enough though the year i was minister we had 200 000 homes

00:46:54.460 built and guess what the average price of a home was at the time four hundred and fifty thousand

00:46:58.780 dollars that's what happened one one one bedrooms rented out for nine hundred dollars and that's

00:47:04.780 since that time housing costs things actually helping paulia making tens of billions of dollars

00:47:13.500 of spending promises that will ultimately continue to build bureaucracy we don't need more bureaucracy in

00:47:19.980 ottawa we tried that for 10 liberal years mr carney what we need is to build homes in communities

00:47:25.980 certainly that means taxing taxes on home building and getting the government out of the way so that

00:47:30.620 builders can actually build i think mr carney you are on housing we need a change and you sir are not

00:47:36.860 a change he keeps pounding that same drug and it's good he needs to keep basically turning

00:47:41.340 revenue saying you guys are saying or that you're offering the same it's an attitude towards housing

00:47:45.980 that absolutely ignores affordable housing deeply affordable housing issues with vulnerable people

00:47:51.660 ignores the rental market ignores all other aspects of it so the six are the relevant mr singh is

00:47:58.220 absolutely right the six are the relevant 200 000 the 200 000 are a different part of the housing market

00:48:03.980 there are many canadians there are many canadians of different uh income uh levels the second thing

00:48:09.740 it reveals is a misunderstanding or well a misunderstanding i'll be polite of how the government's balance

00:48:19.900 sheet can catalyze enormous private investment that is what we need to do to solve the housing crisis it

00:48:26.620 happens to be what we need to do as a whole to address the economic crisis that's been forced on us

00:48:33.500 by president trump mr blanchet yeah you have much more than i have so i want to be like oh he's the

00:48:42.780 one against everyone no i'm not saying that you cannot do what you pretend that you are able to do

00:48:47.420 we just have no proof so far i'm saying quite clearly that you cannot be entitled to do it alone

00:48:54.220 you cannot be entitled to hold all the power in your two ends you cannot go out there and fix things

00:49:00.940 for canada seriously checked by serious people you cannot go out there out there and speak for

00:49:09.260 quebec without quebec having its own strong voice to protect itself and to promote its different

00:49:16.060 economy so if you want to collaborate let's say right now that whatever happens even if minority

00:49:21.580 government government happens you will be a partner with the different quebec economy and identity which

00:49:29.100 you have been not interested in for the economic part and not respectful for the identity let me

00:49:37.500 get mr singing at this point can you tell us what's the first thing you would do to make life more

00:49:42.060 affordable for canadians yeah there's a lot of things that we can do and i i'm the only person

00:49:48.060 on stage that not only fought for real relief for people in terms of affordability i'm the only one

00:49:52.620 that fought for pharma care it actually makes life more affordable by giving people medication coverage

00:49:57.340 uh dental care it gives people more affordability by letting them access their services if you're a

00:50:02.300 senior and a kid i fought for child care to make sure people could afford child care all measures

00:50:07.260 that mr paul you have voted against all measures that mr blanchet voted against

00:50:11.420 the number one expense for families today is taxes more than they spend on food clothing

00:50:40.940 and shelter combined this after 10 years like i've heard him say things before but it's just like

00:50:47.100 a great fourth term of high liberal taxes that's why conservatives have a plan for change and that

00:50:52.940 planning plan voted against every measure to help people out cutting income taxes by 15 percent for

00:50:58.540 the average worker and seniors saving a working couple up to two thousand dollars rewarding hard work

00:51:04.140 again because hard work is actually being punished is actually being punished because of the very high taxes

00:51:11.820 now the liberals promised 10 years ago they would lower them they actually rose to raise taxes on 9 out of 10

00:51:18.060 Canadians we need a change in this country because your hard work should once again pay off with a powerful

00:51:24.940 paycheck that buys you an affordable food affordable home on a safe street and that's what we will deliver

00:51:30.620 some of the slogans got mixed up there but generally speaking he's doing a really good job just delivering

00:51:35.420 the lines that he's been delivering at rallies for a long time but the vast majority of people have

00:51:39.420 still not heard them so this has been very good and even right here it's a great look at the body

00:51:44.380 language all you have is grabbing the podium standing up straight carney's looking like mr burns moving

00:51:49.500 his two like dinosaur claws back and forth and and jagmeet singh's trying to get an edge in like a word in

00:51:55.980 edgewise here even though nobody cares what he's saying you want to save people two thousand dollars

00:52:00.060 but cut their dental care which is thousands of dollars cut their child care which is thousands

00:52:03.980 of dollars cut pharmacare coverage which is thousands of dollars that's not a very good math deal right

00:52:08.620 there you're going to cut you're going to save people two thousand but cost them tens of thousands of

00:52:12.540 dollars and you certainly can't turn you need new democrats mark kearney uh i'm going to reinforce that

00:52:20.780 point and then i'll respond to mr blanchet um child care in this country three thousand to ten

00:52:26.780 thousand dollars a year for a family depending on where you live province there is that right

00:52:32.460 depending on where you live that's that's what's being saved there eight hundred dollars per trip to

00:52:37.100 the dentist we've expanded dental to eight million canada eight million canada i hate this stupid dental

00:52:44.300 care pro like thing yeah yes you get the free dental care now if you went out right now and

00:52:50.700 you just bought private dental insurance where you get two teeth cleanings a year at a massively

00:52:55.180 subsidized cost it costs you like 30 bucks a month and that's without doing any insurance packaging with

00:53:00.700 other with other types of insurance that is 30 bucks a month and it would probably be less if you

00:53:05.660 packaged it with eye care and other things and but like easily they're paying themselves in the back

00:53:10.460 for effectively not even saving you any money just ruining the dental system you guys do democrats

00:53:15.260 farm and care these are fundamental issues for affordability we're talking about affordability

00:53:20.700 and taking them off in order that's why you need that tax that's not what i've said and

00:53:26.860 in terms of income working with quebec for canadian yes absolutely throughout the short time i've been

00:53:33.260 prime minister working directly with the premier of quebec our minister of foreign affairs our minister of

00:53:40.220 finance or from quebec quebec and quebec issues whether it's my answer mr there goes a letter he

00:53:47.420 asked five things in the letter he reduced his expectations we're talking about and you did not

00:53:53.180 even answer him and tonight you are so much in love with quebec steve uh the question that canadians

00:54:01.420 have the question you have to ask is after a decade of liberal promises can you afford food

00:54:15.820 is your housing more affordable than it used to be what is your cost of living like compared to what it

00:54:21.580 was a decade ago and are you prepared to elect the same liberal mps the same liberal ministers the same

00:54:26.940 liberal staffers all over again for a fourth term mr carney justin trudeau staffers are actually here

00:54:33.580 with you at this debate in montreal writing the talking points that you are regurgitating into the

00:54:38.860 microphone how can we possibly believe that you are any different than the previous 10 years of

00:54:45.820 liberal government five seconds that was amazing that was brilliant that's like a wakosh home run you

00:54:54.060 that is that is actually an angle i would have never considered someone bringing up that's f's in

00:54:59.740 the chat for mark carney's political career right there that was that was incredible that was

00:55:07.900 brilliant i actually want to see what he's going to follow up with this just quickly i'm just going to

00:55:11.900 take a quick super chat so i do catch up a little bit uh programmer x says dogging dodging questions like

00:55:18.060 neo dodging bullets in the matrix yeah he was saying that early on the debate and yes and mark carney has

00:55:23.420 continued dodging questions pivoting off them and then saying something boring instead of actually

00:55:29.020 answering the question who's left in this segment for you to respond to that look i do my own talking

00:55:35.020 points thank you very much um the biggest risk we have to affordability is donald trump so first and

00:55:45.740 foremost we've got to get that right secondly we need to do it in a way that brings everyone along together

00:55:53.420 that means preserving pharma care dental care child care reinforcing health care spending our

00:55:59.420 intrusion intrusion intrusion intrusion intrusion in quebec jurisdiction over and again i like the clock

00:56:04.460 is ruining is there one thing canadians can do that quebecers cannot do you are doing intrusions

00:56:12.540 in our jurisdiction with our money pretending you are better and most of the time you try to copy what we did

00:56:19.660 with our own money against us what's that as a policy don't you have your own things to care

00:56:25.180 about that that really is time for this segment i wanted to be polite and let everybody finish their

00:56:28.940 points but far beyond so i took the liberty thank you okay that ends section two up next public safety

00:56:35.900 and security dude all these all these topics are fantastic for the conservatives luckily so far they

00:56:42.220 haven't started off with i'm going to bring up this for a second but it's like guys climate change

00:56:48.940 is really serious and here is a little girl on camera saying that i don't want my house to burn up

00:56:54.460 because of climate change we have luckily avoided that and again polio has been doing a good like

00:57:02.220 punch to the gut of carny and then swiveling back and being the nice guy who's here to tell you his

00:57:07.340 positive vision for a more affordable candidate it's perfect he slugs the guy and then he swings

00:57:12.300 back over and talks about what he's going to do that's very positive smiles and sounds very confident

00:57:17.980 carny is boring he is placid he has not much to say in a lot of these segments it's terrible he just

00:57:25.340 he's just basically saying i'm going to keep everything very moderate and in the middle and

00:57:29.260 don't worry everything's going to be better now that hit on the staffers writing his talking points

00:57:34.940 was so good because it's kind of one of those peek behind the curtain type lines to zing somebody

00:57:39.820 with that you realize that everyone this guy's walking around with are the same people justin

00:57:44.140 trudeau was walking around with and he's not directing them they're directing him uh thank you

00:57:49.100 james dabon for the 1399 super chat must be 450 degrees in there because bro is getting roasted

00:57:56.380 thanks for the awesome analysis why i keep it up well thank you for your 1399 super chat yes this thing has

00:58:01.420 been like the reenactment of the assassination of caesar and out to our security for a lot of

00:58:11.500 people that means the fentanyl crisis i'd like to know what you could contribute to ending that crisis

00:58:17.340 in this country this is a very serious issue which is a bit less important in quebec than it is in

00:58:23.900 british colombia i think the whole border thing is the real issue immigration is a very important issue

00:58:30.860 for quebecers immigration has to be dealt with in an orderly fashion our borders are not dealt with

00:58:38.380 in an orderly fashion the rules are not respected the rules are unclear some rules even invite people

00:58:44.380 to hide for two weeks illegally before coming out some things has to be done the situation of one person

00:58:53.180 asking for asylum may take as much as four years without us reducing the number in order to deal

00:59:00.620 with them in a human way the services for every citizen in quebec are being reduced because we

00:59:07.580 cannot afford the fact that we are receiving much much more people in quebec from this specific type of

00:59:15.820 immigration than we can afford and we cannot teach them french that's time mr blanchet we can of course

00:59:21.420 return to the immigration issue during open debate should you use to mr carney question for you the

00:59:26.380 liberal gun buyback policy not considered a success by many people reviving it is in your platform

00:59:33.980 why would it work this time yeah i think well what we've seen with that uh that policy is some success

00:59:39.660 at the at the commercial level but not at the individual level uh because it hasn't been in my

00:59:44.860 opinion it hasn't been organized uh properly and it needs to be organized properly and i've instructed the

00:59:50.620 minister of uh national uh security and public safety uh in order to do that uh so part of this

00:59:57.340 is a different focus of government a focus on results a focus on clear uh milestones in the short

01:00:02.860 term let me make a broader point though on gun which is that i'm good we have a problem with guns coming

01:00:09.660 over our borders which is why we've tightened our borders we have an issue though with it he actually

01:00:13.980 only did it because donald trump forced him to do it gun industry that is continually coming up with new

01:00:19.260 forms of assault rifles uh mass killing uh machines we banned over 2 000 of these so ignorant every

01:00:26.620 single time there has been a vote in the house of commons on gun control mr polyev has voted against

01:00:33.260 it you can't be tough on crime unless you're tough on guns polyev you can come back on that in the open

01:00:39.180 debate if you want to but my question for you in this segment is indigenous people are statistically

01:00:44.380 overrepresented in our correction system are you concerned that you're tough on crime platform

01:00:49.660 will make that worse i'm sorry but did somebody commit the crime because i don't want to sound

01:00:56.460 you know generic but you should do the time this is such a stupid point this is where i i don't think

01:01:03.500 steve pagan wrote these questions but my goodness what a stupid thing to say do you think that this might

01:01:08.540 disproportionately affect indigenous people no it's going to disproportionately affect criminals that's who it

01:01:13.740 affects guess who you are protecting if you arrest an indigenous person who's a criminal you're

01:01:18.460 protecting all the other indigenous people who are not criminals who want to run their businesses

01:01:23.340 and want to live in their home safely if you arrest a white guy i'm not like oh my goodness they're

01:01:28.140 oppressing white people i look at as good get that criminal off my neighborhood streets i'm concerned

01:01:34.220 that indigenous people are disproportionately the victims of crime perfect respect to give you the

01:01:39.420 example of a wonderful group of indigenous people who came under attack in saskatchewan and many of them

01:01:47.100 were murdered killer was out of jail after 60 prior convictions this is the result of 10 years of liberal

01:01:59.020 laws that allow the same offenders to be released dozens and dozens of times even when it's known they are a

01:02:05.580 danger we can't risk a fourth liberal term of soft on crime policies we need to change and the conservative

01:02:14.780 plan for change will bring in a three strikes you're outlaw three convictions for serious crimes you go to

01:02:19.900 jail for at least 10 years maybe for life no chance of parole or bail this has been the perfect roll off of

01:02:27.900 that really bad question if anything he actually turned that bad question into a brilliant answer that would have

01:02:33.580 been better than him just getting a straight up question about crime being high we will bring in

01:02:37.260 life sentences for traffickers of fentanyl human beings and guns and we will secure our borders to

01:02:44.300 keep the illegal thank you mr paliev that's time mr singh your question is about the rcmp because you've

01:02:50.460 got rcmp reform in your platform what in your view is the problem with the rcmp well some of the basis for

01:02:57.740 this is the concern that's been raised in more rural communities and northern communities that

01:03:02.700 there have been some serious concerns about violence or inappropriate use of force when

01:03:07.740 it comes to the the execution of their duties you can tell jagme singh didn't want this to be brought

01:03:13.180 up because he does that virtue signaling stuff on social media for all the leftists he doesn't

01:03:17.660 actually want normal people to hear that he hates the rcmp we want to make sure that we've got a top-tier

01:03:24.060 police force that provides security and safety to those communities in a way that's sensitive and

01:03:29.180 understanding of the communities they're serving i also think what's very important is for indigenous

01:03:33.340 communities indigenous policing this is an area of deep concern i think everyone in our country

01:03:38.460 should be safe you should be able to be safe at home safe when you go to work safe if you take public

01:03:43.900 transit safe for your kids to be able to play in the local playground and that's something i'm committed

01:03:48.540 to and the other area that i'm focused on when it comes we're going to get that by getting really

01:03:51.660 it's making sure we prevent crime before it happens and that's why we want to see increased

01:03:56.540 investments in our border security we saw under the conservatives they cut 1100 border officers

01:04:03.020 in one day uh so that prevented our ability to keep our borders safe that stops those

01:04:07.340 materials coming next time not sure it was about the rcmp but maybe we can get back to that during

01:04:11.900 the open debate segment uh which we go to right now and mr polyev you get the first word on this one and it

01:04:17.100 sort of dovetails on the last answer you gave which is you have pledged to be the first prime minister

01:04:22.780 in this country to use the notwithstanding clause setting aside charter rights of as you call them

01:04:27.660 multiple murderers why do you think that's necessary to be clear i want to uphold the charter rights of

01:04:33.580 canadians under section 7 to life liberty and security of the person right now that right is violated

01:04:42.700 by multiple murderers who are given discounts the case in question was a gentleman who went into a

01:04:49.020 mosque and shot dead six innocent worshipers he got according to this ruling only one 25 year sentence

01:04:57.180 meaning he could be out in his 50s he only serves four years for every murder that he carried out

01:05:03.420 that is outrageous and i will use the constitutional powers that are created for this purpose to ensure

01:05:10.940 that mass murderers stay in maximum security penitentiary for life they will only come out

01:05:16.620 in a box we will also pass tough new laws that prevent it doesn't matter how much the mainstream

01:05:22.460 media tries to pretend that canadians are fundamentally socially liberal people will eat the stuff up

01:05:27.580 rightfully so because it's morally correct and canadians fundamentally are like americans they're

01:05:32.460 like people from the uk they're like people from ireland they're like people from france they're

01:05:35.420 like people from nigeria they don't like crime and this is a very good stance to win back

01:05:40.780 older voters who are leaning a little bit liberal repeat offenders from getting out if you commit

01:05:45.580 three offenses under the three strikes law i propose you will not be allowed out of jail until

01:05:50.700 you prove that you are drug free that you that you are behaved perfectly and you've learned an

01:05:56.140 employable skill and you've served a 10-year sentence we cannot allow liberal crime and chaos to go on

01:06:02.060 terrorizing our communities what we need is a real plan for change so that we can bring back the safety

01:06:08.380 and the security of the canadians used to take for granted let me get mr carney to respond to that

01:06:12.380 you think that's an appropriate use of the notwithstanding clause of the charter i think

01:06:15.900 that the um one of the core responsibilities of the federal government prime minister uh is to

01:06:22.620 defend the fundamental rights and liberties of canadians uh and those fundamental rights and

01:06:27.260 liberties of canadians are outlined in our charter of rights and freedoms which is 43 years old literally

01:06:35.580 today i think it's a very dangerous slope to override judgments of the supreme court of canada

01:06:46.380 in fact the charter of rights and freedoms exists to protect canadians from people like us on the stage

01:06:56.460 politicians who may use their power to override fundamental rights and the issue

01:07:03.820 in using by the federal government i'll stop here is not where you start where will you stop

01:07:10.460 mr polly i i should get mr pauliev on that is it a slippery slope if you use it in this case i must say

01:07:15.340 i would be quite interested too because mr carney said that he didn't want us to use a notwithstanding

01:07:21.180 cause clause before uh adopting a law and yesterday he said that he felt that it was wrong to use the

01:07:31.820 notwithstanding clause after a law is adopted so if we cannot use it before and we cannot use it after

01:07:40.380 it means that mr comey believes that we should never use it but it is very important and the ford case

01:07:48.460 made it clear the constitution says how it should be used but never how or what we will do with it

01:07:57.260 because it's the prerogative of the provinces so do you want the supreme court to overrule another

01:08:06.300 judgment of the same supreme court because you don't like it because that would be being the hell

01:08:11.900 of a politician as you define them well let me start by saying okay first of all yeah thank you

01:08:16.780 that was actually a great job by blanchette about talking about the double standards of mark carney too

01:08:20.940 bad it didn't go back to mark carney because that guy was gonna fumble that football hard but now we

01:08:24.940 have jagmeet singh here to absolutely miss the point of the entire conversation i just started

01:08:30.860 by saying let's not let mr paulyev get away with making this ludicrous ludicrous claim that anyone

01:08:37.020 on this stage thinks that violent crime should get a less severe penalty obviously that is not a special

01:08:43.660 position that he's taking everyone agrees that horrible crimes should have horrible sentences judges

01:08:49.820 are equipped to do that so don't let mr paulyev's rhetoric confuse people

01:08:55.820 jagmeet singh is in favor of dei sentencing policy where we take into effect into account your identity

01:09:01.820 to decide whether you really should be going away for 25 years for killing somebody or because you're

01:09:06.940 this and that and so you should only get eight years that's actually jagmeet singh's position that's

01:09:11.740 why he doesn't like the rcmp because they're too tough on certain communities because too many people

01:09:15.580 get locked up for committing violent crimes obviously everyone agrees that if someone does something

01:09:19.660 horrible they should pay a horrible price for it there should be appropriate sentence that's put in

01:09:24.300 place by a judge your punishment is listening to jagmeet singh attempt to debate but what i'm concerned

01:09:30.460 about is all of what mr paulyev was talking about is after the fact now there's heinous things that

01:09:35.500 happen and there needs to be severe penalties put in place but we also need to keep communities safe and

01:09:40.780 that's what my focus is well how do we stop crime before it happens much of the violent crime that's

01:09:45.820 committed is committed by illegal handguns and firearms that come across the border now mr

01:09:51.420 paulyev has admitted that as well that it is illegal handguns and illegal weapons that are used in

01:09:55.900 violent crime so our plan is let's stop those illegal weapons getting into our country in the first place

01:10:02.380 and the way we do that is by having stronger border security officers and having more people on the

01:10:06.780 border mr pierre paulyev when he was in power in the conservatives they cut the number of border

01:10:12.460 officers okay they reduced the number let's get getting our borders can't trust them let's get back

01:10:17.420 to mr paulyev on the issue of whether in using the notwithstanding clause under these circumstances

01:10:22.300 would be a kind of a slippery slope and encourage politicians to use it more no we will use it to

01:10:27.900 protect the the charter rights of law abiding canadians i'm interested in the rights of victims

01:10:34.620 mr carney seems to be very interested in the rights of criminals he says that it's dangerous

01:10:40.860 for me to ensure that mass murderers stay behind bars for life you know what's dangerous turning

01:10:47.660 them loose on our streets i don't think you appreciate sir the chaos that is unfolding in

01:10:53.180 communities in toronto right now the police have been forced to tell people to just let people let the

01:11:00.220 thief steal the car when they break into the house just take the keys just let them take the keys so

01:11:05.420 that you don't get hurt people are living in terror in many of our communities precisely because of the

01:11:11.340 catch and release bail law c-75 which requires judges release the the accused at the earliest

01:11:19.340 opportunity under the least onerous conditions your every single member of your liberal caucus and your

01:11:26.140 liberal cabinet voted in favor of this bill and they are all determined to keep it in place despite

01:11:32.860 constant promises to the contrary mr carney canadians deserve to live in peace and security that is the

01:11:40.460 right that i'm fighting for for a change uh i'm fighting for that as well and let me be specific about

01:11:46.860 two things that have been raised uh the first is with respect to uh these issues of car theft home invasion

01:11:54.380 uh and and i'll use the greater the gta uh area where uh there has been sharp increase how do you

01:12:01.180 attack that you attack it several ways one you increase the criminal penalties for that happening

01:12:08.540 particularly if you're part of a gang particularly if you use a firearm they literally have bill c5 that

01:12:14.460 reduces sentences for for carrying illegal handguns it is like the nicest law you've ever passed for

01:12:20.780 gangs and he was part of the government when it was happening he was an advisor yes just an economic

01:12:25.820 advisor but he only at this moment does he even kind of talked about how we need harsher sentences

01:12:30.940 only now on this debate stage do that and we're doing so we've committed uh to doing so you put in

01:12:36.140 place a reverse bonus in terms of bail so that it has to be proven that there's not a risk which we've

01:12:41.980 also committed to and then you go to what mr singh was talking about which is we have to reinforce our

01:12:47.500 frontiers that's why we're committing to an extra thousand canada border service agents an extra

01:12:53.820 thousand rcmp's that's why as part of the broader fentanyl uh initiative where we've added to uh the

01:13:00.620 rcmp there we've added drones we're adding helicopters we're adding surveillance and we're going to the

01:13:06.620 other end of the chain with respect to car theft which is tightening security at the ports this is what

01:13:13.020 we need in order to get results you need to focus where at both ends of the chains and fed me saying

01:13:18.780 thank you very much i want to talk about uh one of the issues that has come up is is the idea of the

01:13:23.340 public safety concerns around the overdose crisis and and how this is devastating our communities we're

01:13:29.260 seeing so many lives being lost in that we know that one of the ways to address that is by investing in

01:13:36.060 some of the solutions like mental health services and rehabilitation services services keep our

01:13:40.780 communities safe having access to those good services uh both mr carney and mr polyev are

01:13:46.380 proposing cutting government spending and cutting those services that's not going to make our

01:13:50.220 community safer we need to see better investments in rehabilitation services more investments in mental

01:13:55.260 health we need to respond to this serious crisis in our country with care and compassion i've met with

01:14:01.340 mom stop the harm an organization of moms that have lost their children to this opioid overdose crisis

01:14:08.220 they've literally had their children have died because of this and they say they're saying we

01:14:12.940 need to do everything possible to save lives to stop uh this death from happening and i think we

01:14:17.980 need to listen to those moms and that's my commitment mr blanchet two things as rapidly as possible first

01:14:23.180 we believe that we should act on crime gangs and organizations defining them as we do for terrorist

01:14:30.540 organization we have to protect our kids from the violence of those guys from the drugs being sold by

01:14:37.580 those gang from the isn't this technically a trump point to start designating a large gangs as terrorist

01:14:43.500 organizations i i support blanchet on that but i would just point out that he probably wouldn't like

01:14:48.060 it if someone else said it their guns and whatever else being stolen i mean uh

01:14:53.660 uh sale being by those gangs sold and sold not sold being you know you purchase a thing and selling sold

01:15:07.420 sold sold sold sold by those gangs and we mostly have to protect our kids from those gangs becoming violent

01:15:15.340 at 13 and 14 and 16 uh years old because this is the real fear of parents like i am this is a very

01:15:24.380 dangerous situation i want to come back to immigration because we said that we would come

01:15:28.060 back to immigration do you remember the century initiative a sad memory officially they said that

01:15:35.340 they had not considered quebec difference they have not considered quebec language they wanted

01:15:40.220 canada to be 100 million people country by the end of the century mr barton told myself told me himself

01:15:50.460 that he had not even thought about the quebec difference in that analysis and one of his closest

01:15:56.620 collaborators is now a close considerate to mr carne which seems to be part of so of that kind of

01:16:03.020 project or ideology so it is impossible for canada to have all those people coming to canada it is

01:16:09.980 impossible for quebec to receive all those people and in quebec we have the language and values and

01:16:15.740 secularity of the state issue which is very important so i say pause pause pause let's do

01:16:23.180 things properly let's receive migrants in an orderly fashion and successfully as a measure of respect for

01:16:31.420 them also mr paulia if you wanted a word i speak to families all the time we're terrified

01:16:37.420 by the scourge of drugs and illegal guns and we know those guns are not grandpa joe's hunting rifle

01:16:43.500 so when the liberals try to ban hunting rifles he stole my grandpa joe line he watches my show confirmed

01:16:49.660 i literally said grandpa joe the last time i was trying to come up with an old man name uh for the

01:16:55.900 like you know old uncle farmer joe's hunting rifle my bill but he's took it they're really going after the

01:17:02.460 wrong people ninety percent of guns that come in that are used in crime are smuggled illegally over

01:17:08.540 the poorest liberal run borders the border that's why the police officers it's not true and that's

01:17:13.820 why actually the police actually the police in barry in peel in sous saint marie have all endorsed me

01:17:24.700 because they know that i will go after the gun smugglers and criminals with two thousand extra border

01:17:30.060 front line border guards that will stop the guns from coming in but i unlike the liberals and ndp

01:17:35.660 i will not ban hunting rifles the liberals want to protect i want to protect canadians from criminals

01:17:41.260 the liberals want to protect turkeys from hunters i think we know which one quick intervention mr

01:17:45.900 carney then i got that's actually such a good line that conservatives want to protect people from guns

01:17:50.220 and they want to protect turkeys from shotguns or rifles or whatever that's a funny line the question

01:17:54.860 for each of you before this segment's out okay um we absolutely fully support uh hunting uh and

01:18:01.340 rights of uh hunters um and indigenous canadians but i want to i want to raise an issue which is a

01:18:06.140 serious issue talking about safety uh there are people we're in montreal in montreal in toronto across

01:18:11.980 this country who fear going to their synagogue fear going to their community center fear uh taking their

01:18:19.740 children leaving their children's school and this has to stop this is on it's totally unacceptable so

01:18:25.820 what we're proposing is to make it a criminal offense to threaten or to impede anyone from being near

01:18:34.060 or going to their place of worship their school their community center this i i it pains me that when

01:18:40.940 we have to do it because this is not what we should be doing as canadians of course but we will put

01:18:46.780 that in place let me get back and this is a fundamental issue with let me get 10 seconds

01:18:51.820 from each of you before this segment's out on what you perceive to be the biggest security threat

01:18:56.620 to canada right now 10 seconds each mr polyev the physical security threat to our country

01:19:03.580 uh is the rampant crime wave that is running out of control uh after the the last decade we had a

01:19:10.540 hundred and sixteen percent increase in gun crime we need to lock up criminals i gotta hold you the 10

01:19:15.180 seconds mr carney uh well we're in a security uh section um i think we didn't have a chance to

01:19:20.620 talk about anything internationally i think the biggest security threat to china canada is china

01:19:24.940 so you have to throw that one in there biggest security threat illegal guns and drugs coming

01:19:29.820 across the border and cuts to services that would make our public safety and security even worse

01:19:35.100 come on you know that jagmeese wanted to say it's india and it's modi and it's the bjp last word to

01:19:40.860 mr blanchet the fact that neither quebec or canada is able to protect itself and that we are still

01:19:47.100 dependent and entirely dependent on americans to protect us okay that is the end of that section

01:19:54.060 gentlemen up next energy and climate i'll pause here for just a second then we will be skipping

01:20:01.500 forward again uh i'll just kind of cue it up for when the debate actually commences it just helps to

01:20:07.580 me to get through a couple of super chats not that i want to make this all about super chats it's just

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01:20:58.060 supporting the show now back to the debate new pipelines to get our oil and gas to market

01:21:04.540 well it's not a approach i favor with public money there's not any projects that are on the table so

01:21:08.940 it's not a specific project to look at i favor when it comes to the environment uh building an east-west

01:21:15.180 energy grid that connects low-cost energy and allows for families to reduce their electricity costs

01:21:20.540 but let's put this all in context we're talking about uh what our energy solutions are in the context of

01:21:26.140 a climate crisis and we're not just talking about a climate crisis in the far future we're living it

01:21:31.500 right now i remember i met a mom a couple years ago before i had kids who told me she was worried

01:21:36.860 about taking her kids out on some days because of the forest fires in bc it meant that it was unsafe

01:21:41.980 for kids to go outdoors fast forward to when i became a parent just a couple years after that

01:21:46.300 and i literally worry about the same thing the forest fires we saw a couple years ago

01:21:50.300 meant that many places that didn't see this before saw days where there was such smoke in the air that

01:21:56.860 it was dangerous for kids we've seen extreme weather uh forest fires heat domes floods impacting us

01:22:03.740 we've got to do everything we can thank you mr singh that's time mr polyev where does fighting climate

01:22:08.620 change land on your list of priorities when it comes to expanding energy opportunities in this country

01:22:14.940 it lands within our priorities of bringing home jobs while bringing down emissions around the world

01:22:21.740 look the reality is that if we push production out of our country to more polluting countries

01:22:28.140 it actually makes the problem worse but that has been exactly the liberal approach

01:22:32.540 with the anti-development law c69 blocking of 15 lng export plants uh over the last 10 years we have

01:22:41.980 seen more of those jobs go abroad i want to bring them home my plan will be to approve for example

01:22:48.940 natural gas liquefaction and export if we sent our gas to india for example to displace half of their

01:22:55.900 demand for electricity we could reduce emissions by 2.5 billion tons which is three times the total

01:23:05.340 emissions of canada that's the way we bring emissions down and jobs up it's common sense and

01:23:14.060 now it's time to bring it home thank you mr polyev uh the next question is for mr kearney how would

01:23:19.100 your i actually really like the answer from peer polyev because usually conservatives capitulate on the

01:23:25.420 climate change issues and they talk about how don't worry we'll have our own program we'll do something

01:23:29.500 just state the fact that hey if you care about emissions if we send our oil and gas overseas we will

01:23:35.100 actually reduce far more emissions than just cutting ourselves off at the knees here and in fact

01:23:39.100 doing that will just push people to use more coal overseas for government fast track pipelines and

01:23:45.020 mining projects while also following the supreme court decision that requires consent of indigenous

01:23:50.940 communities well i think the first thing and this goes back a bit to where we started uh which is

01:23:56.780 recognizing that we are in a crisis we need to act with maximum force um and having a process

01:24:04.380 in a consultation but a consultation with a purpose which is to identify those projects those investments

01:24:11.980 of national interest that are really going to move the dial in terms of growth jobs energy security

01:24:19.740 well-being consistent with long-term competitiveness which necessarily means lower carbon and so part of

01:24:25.580 that process is ensuring that first nations indigenous peoples are there from the start it also includes

01:24:32.700 their ability to participate fully in those projects and that's why and i'll i know you i can tell

01:24:39.020 you've got to tell on when i've gone on too long so finish up which is so bad that's why we're doubling

01:24:44.700 our proposals to double the indigenous loan guarantee program to 10 billion dollars what does that

01:24:49.260 actually mean it means an ability for them to invest equity in those partners thank you my tell is

01:24:55.900 my clock and my clock is at zero so that's how it goes mr blanchet do you still oppose pipeline

01:25:00.860 construction in quebec even though a majority of quebecers now apparently say they support it we

01:25:06.140 will know about that when we have held the debate about that which has not begun yet we are just

01:25:11.740 beginning it first we are hearing very creative numbers and we are being fed nonsense and we will

01:25:19.340 be back to it in a few minutes but energy trade commerce is from south to north or north to south and

01:25:29.580 it's true in quebec also in a little more than three years donald trump won't be in office and there

01:25:36.860 will be not one more pipeline having bill been built once we get there so let's be serious responsible

01:25:47.900 and we will be back with the numbers we don't want to pay in quebec for such monstruosities which

01:25:55.740 will provide us with nothing we now move to open debate and you all will get a chance or i just want

01:26:02.780 to interrupt you guys for a second to show this on screen this is the current google trends chart

01:26:06.780 in canada over the past hour you can see that big spike when he had that big moment poly up

01:26:12.780 calling out carney for having his scripts written by his own uh his own team and it's he stayed

01:26:19.020 consistently pretty near the top and overall he has been the most uh searched candidate on stage during

01:26:25.420 the debate or have had a chance to get the first shot at this abyss blanchet it is your turn to get the

01:26:29.900 first shot canada has a substantial supply of critical minerals which are in high demand are you in favor

01:26:36.860 of allowing these minerals to be mined of course it has to be done properly quebec has probably the

01:26:44.460 most important clean phosphate reserves in north america in saguenay lake saint jean it is very

01:26:51.580 important it has to be exploited this is the best way to use paul saguenay as an infrastructure that we

01:26:58.460 need we have lithium everybody needs the jump transportation has to be taken from oil to

01:27:05.980 clean energy this is what we want to be working on it is part of the specificities of specifics of quebec

01:27:14.300 economy so we are in favor of that but we don't want to pay for the 30 billions of dollars which have

01:27:21.740 been spent on oil and gas by the liberals last year it's seven billions of dollars from quebec we

01:27:28.300 don't want to pay for the 40 billions of dollars which have been spent by the liberals on trans

01:27:34.220 fountain it's nine billions of dollars from quebec those are 16 billions of dollars of which not one

01:27:41.980 dollar has been spent in quebec to develop a lot more power and wealth for quebecers with our own

01:27:51.180 money we need to let the leader of the liberals respond uh well actually i was going to pick up on

01:27:56.220 the enormous opportunity that exists in quebec exists in ontario exists in the north of canada

01:28:02.700 really exists across this great nation in terms of critical metals and minerals we are one of have

01:28:08.220 one of the biggest resources in this country and this is it's not just enormous economic opportunity

01:28:14.300 it is a strategic opportunity for canada so we have to make a decision not just to develop it but how do

01:28:20.940 we develop it and who are our partners for it do we become more dependent on the united

01:28:25.900 states which is what they want by the way president trump this week said you might put a tax on

01:28:30.220 critical metals and minerals just showing again if i may if i may if i may finish let me finish

01:28:41.420 so the opportunity includes in europe and includes in asia as our partners last point in order to get

01:28:47.660 it done in order to get it done we'll put in place a first and last mile fund so these projects are

01:28:52.300 connected to road and rail so they can go quickly to market and we will have all of the other fast

01:28:57.100 tracking measures in place that i talked about earlier in terms of capital timing approvals so

01:29:02.540 that we can move quickly we can be stronger at home better ways we should absolutely uh take advantage of

01:29:11.100 the fact that we've got incredible amounts of critical minerals in our country and then i don't feel

01:29:15.180 bad muting jagmeet thing right now the the debate is starting to slow down but considering that

01:29:21.260 paulia got all the punches in early i think that's going to be the narrative coming out of it that

01:29:26.460 arnie got savaged to build on something mr blanche mentioned about the investments that this country

01:29:31.660 has made what i found very troubling is that the past number of years the liberal government record

01:29:39.340 is one where we have spent the most subsidies compared to any other country in the g7 on subsidizing

01:29:45.740 oil and gas these are highly profitable companies i think that's the wrong thing to do

01:29:50.300 we fought against it again and again no you vote and then the liberals have continued to do it

01:29:54.700 and so my question really to mr carney is will you commit to ending oil and gas subsidies we

01:29:59.820 should be using that to invest in people not giving it to highly profitable oil and gas companies

01:30:04.940 yeah we talk i promise mr paulia the next we'll come back and get that question answered mr paulia

01:30:11.260 well mr carney you point out that donald trump has a wrong-headed idea of putting a tax on our

01:30:18.380 minds and our industry and that is wrong but so do you you want to apply a massive industrial carbon tax

01:30:27.180 on canadian mines canadian steel mills canadian aluminum plants canadian oil and gas and

01:30:34.380 your idea is to double the tax that trump is applying by hitting them a second time this will

01:30:39.980 do nothing for the environment it will actually ship our jobs south of the border

01:30:44.780 just like president trump wants my plan is to bring singh will not stop talking i have paused this debate

01:30:54.620 less times than singh has tried to interrupt pure poly of alone that production home here to canada for

01:31:00.860 example i will give a tax credit to low emitting canadian industry like quebec's aluminum for

01:31:08.300 example or british columbia's natural gas so that we not only bring home the production but we do it

01:31:14.620 below global average levels of emissions so that we actually help the environment while bringing home

01:31:20.460 the jobs for our people at the same time that is a sensible pragmatic approach that puts us in charge of our

01:31:28.700 economic destiny so we can stand up to the americans from a position of strength for a change

01:31:36.380 i want to get i want to give you a chance to speak to mr singh's criticism about oil and gas subsidies

01:31:41.420 and mr polyev's criticism about the industrial carbon tax okay i'm gonna make i'm gonna make three points

01:31:46.860 i'll make four if you want me to respond to that but i want to make three um the first is that um we

01:31:52.700 answered i answered this question last night but i think the puck had already dropped in the canadians

01:31:56.300 games not everyone heard it yes and oil and gas subsidies that's why you need you secondly secondly

01:32:01.340 secondly i would have done it independently secondly recognizing that the biggest component of that was

01:32:06.620 the cost of building keystone keystone which is the pipeline which has helped to increase oil and gas

01:32:12.540 export or oil exports rather by 50 in this country um that is an asset of the people of canada we own it

01:32:20.620 uh and the question what to do it so it's not a subsidy that has disappeared is actually an asset of

01:32:24.380 canada the third point though in terms of where the oil and gas industry particularly the oil industry

01:32:29.180 needs wants to and needs to go which is to become low carbon low carbon in production and transportation

01:32:34.940 of oil one of the big projects we need to move forward with is carbon capture and storage the

01:32:39.900 pathways project so that we have oil and gas that is competitive not just today 10 years from now and

01:32:46.460 20 years from now as the world uses less we want to have more market share we need to do my government

01:32:52.140 my government will move that but by definition a subsidy isn't when we buy a pipeline i'm talking

01:32:58.300 about subsidies that go to oil and gas companies well dependent separate from the country oil and

01:33:03.020 gas companies that's what the figure you quoted last night uh included the cost of the pipeline

01:33:06.860 do you want to address these dollars are spending we got to stop spending sorry can we can we get you

01:33:10.140 to address his point how much will the industrial carbon tax add to the price of a car so the first

01:33:15.580 thing i want to say is we have i'm going to address the broader point uh well broader point he never gets to

01:33:21.100 it he always just rolls off the questions talks about whatever he wants which i guess technically

01:33:25.020 is the right thing to do in the debate but it's also very telling my goodness though every time mark

01:33:29.420 carney talks it's like the orb of confusion has been turned on and within 20 seconds i don't even

01:33:35.740 know where he started because he's just talking about boring nothingness by that by like about the

01:33:41.180 10 or 15 second mark he just wants an entire absence of a climate plan uh from mr pollia uh which

01:33:47.500 by the way is going to put our industry and our country at a disadvantage as we're looking for

01:33:53.900 new trading partners guess what most people want to deepen our partnership in europe in asia

01:33:59.900 those countries care about whether or not you've made progress second thing is we're designing a

01:34:05.180 program so that the big polluters pay canadians at home for making responsible climate choices for

01:34:13.660 retrofitting their home getting their emissions down or improving otherwise and that is smart

01:34:18.700 climate policy it's better for the big polluters and it's better for canadians mr carney didn't

01:34:25.180 answer my question i asked how much would the an industrial carbon tax on canadian steel add to the

01:34:31.260 price of a car he won't answer because he knows that it will be very expensive because there's lots of

01:34:36.220 steel in cars now well mr carney has temporarily did you know the end in the car you don't know the answer

01:34:42.540 either thousands of dollars thousands of dollars when you actually i actually do know the answer

01:34:48.940 when you ask when you add your taxes to steel you raise the price of everything that uses steel

01:34:56.460 when you add everything taxes to the price when you add when you add when you add apparently now

01:35:02.940 polio needs to know the exact number the whole point is does the man who is putting in place

01:35:07.420 the policy know that is the bigger question polio doesn't need to know he just needs to know it's

01:35:12.300 a stupid idea from the fundamentals of what what makes up the idea taxing industry is going to make

01:35:18.620 everything industry is doing more expensive oh you don't know how much it costs stop talking jimmy

01:35:24.700 stop it the carbon tax on to the price of for example fertilizer you increase the price of food

01:35:31.020 so while mr carney has temporarily hidden the liberal carbon tax at the pumps while keeping the

01:35:36.140 tax fully in law and planning to raise it after the election he's also going after a tax on our

01:35:42.460 industry that will ultimately be passed on to you after a lost liberal decade of rising costs we

01:35:49.180 cannot afford a fourth liberal term we need a new government that will fully axe the carbon tax

01:35:55.820 increase the jobs that we have here in canada and bring down your cost of living we've got just a

01:36:00.220 little over three minutes left in this segment so mr singh i want to ask you do you think climate

01:36:03.900 change is still a priority from canadians you're out there what are you hearing absolutely you speak

01:36:08.860 to any any young person and they think you know we're seeing climate crisis in front of us happening

01:36:14.540 right now speak to seniors who say you know we used to be able to live in our homes without air

01:36:18.860 conditioning and now we're seeing heat crises in communities that never had uh worries about

01:36:24.060 extreme weather we're seeing flooding we're seeing forest fires like never before we're living in a

01:36:29.020 climate crisis so canadians are absolutely worried about it as soon as we come into a summer we start

01:36:33.820 seeing those forest fires again it's top of mind for canadians because they're living it they're seeing

01:36:37.900 it i want those canadians to know mr carney is not going to end those fossil fuel subsidies

01:36:43.020 unless i'm there to fight back mr polyev wants to let big polluters pollute as much as they want

01:36:47.580 poison our beautiful land our water not true air he wants to let them dump into our oceans i'm going

01:36:53.580 to fight back and defend our oh and polyev is also going to push your mother down the stairs and take

01:36:57.980 away her pension i he jagmees thing is the biggest conspiracy theorist in politics because he basically

01:37:04.780 just accuses everyone else of being like scrooge mcduck and they're going to screw you over for no reason

01:37:13.900 environment monsieur blanchet on the issue of whether or not people still care about climate

01:37:17.420 change i think people should be kept very informed about climate change because we are in a very

01:37:25.340 strange denial situation about climate change which still exists and is very expensive and i'm sorry to

01:37:32.380 crash your party guys but you are telling fairy tales clean oil and gas is a fairy tale large scales

01:37:42.460 carbon sequest sequestration sorry i'm french is a fairy tale it does not exist if alberta wanted to

01:37:51.740 exploit oil and gas and it were not a matter of pollution i wouldn't mind at all that's their

01:37:58.300 business our own power house in terms of energy in quebec is clean energy we are the best place in the

01:38:06.140 world to achieve that our market is the northeastern part democrat part of united states we want to keep

01:38:14.700 our money to create wealth in quebec for quebecers let me give mr different because we can afford

01:38:23.340 let me give i i want to i will get to you because i said i would but you've taken a couple of hits here

01:38:28.620 and i want to give you a chance to respond to some of the things that people on this side of the stage

01:38:31.980 have said thank you well first of all we do support protecting the environment banning we want to ban

01:38:38.060 the dumping of raw sewage into our waters we want to hold large corporations to high environmental

01:38:44.380 standards to protect our water and air but we cannot do that by raising taxes and sending jobs overseas

01:38:51.980 as mr carney is proposing to do that has been the approach of the last 10 years of the liberal

01:38:57.580 government what the biggest companies that may that develop our resources say is that we need

01:39:02.940 to repeal the liberal anti-development law c69 a law mr carney wants to keep in place they say we need

01:39:09.500 to repeal the industrial carbon tax and get rid of the liberal energy cap we need six months approvals

01:39:15.980 in order to get our to take back energy security and energy solve we can summarize

01:39:21.180 as much as we think jagmeet singh is super annoying i guarantee all the left-wing outlets are going to

01:39:34.140 talk about how much of a brave fighter he was during this debate in the northwest territories just north of

01:39:39.580 what the oil sands became when i was born and when i was growing up in edmonton early days it was a

01:39:45.580 fairy tale quote unquote but you know what happened canadian ingenuity canadian engineers canadian

01:39:51.020 governments both the federal government and the alberta government got together and created

01:39:54.700 converted the worst pollution if i may if i may the worst if may i finish ten more seconds please let

01:40:01.260 him finish this point that's the opportunity we have that's the opportunity we have in carbon capture

01:40:05.820 that's the opportunity we have in small modular reactors that's the opportunity we have in hundreds

01:40:09.580 and beyond this country could be a clean energy superpower my government will help deliver and that is

01:40:14.940 time for this segment gentlemen let us go to our final theme which is called leading in a crisis

01:40:20.780 oh my goodness it's a look over guys canadians know how to weather a storm canadians know how

01:40:26.140 to get through a difficult time if at the end of the day we end up with the violence of power

01:40:31.580 quebec is safer than it could be in any other scenario now is not a time for weakness now is the time

01:40:38.300 to take back control canadians are always ready when someone else drops the gloves

01:40:45.020 okay leading in a crisis is a pretty broad theme that allows us to explore many different avenues

01:40:49.580 here so let's get to it mr carney you get the first question this time we haven't balanced a budget

01:40:54.300 in this country in 17 years and 10 of those years were under your party you have pledged to get us to

01:40:59.820 a balanced budget in three years question is how so um let me let me put this in the context of leading

01:41:08.700 in a crisis which is in a crisis you got a plan for the worse worse is that the u.s actually does want

01:41:14.060 to take us over secondly you got to have a plan plan to build and i'll include a fiscal plan and

01:41:19.180 i will get to that in a second the third thing is you need to respond in a crisis with overwhelming

01:41:24.940 force you need to think big you need to move rapidly the things we've been discussing today

01:41:30.300 are a subset of what we can and should do as a nation and we can deliver and government can play a

01:41:37.340 role but its role has to be catalytic and so our approach is that we will slow the rate of spending

01:41:44.220 it's been growing at nine percent a year operational spending program spending away from transfers away

01:41:49.260 from transfers in with nine percent a year we'll slow that to two percent we will focus on a small

01:41:55.900 amount of capital spending by the federal government in order to drive enormous private investment up to half

01:42:02.380 a trillion dollars by five years thank you mr carney uh ukraine surely constitutes a crisis

01:42:09.660 leading in a time of crisis mr polyev question for you if the united states withholds support from

01:42:15.260 ukraine going forward do you believe canada should commit more to assist i believe we should continue to

01:42:20.460 support ukraine our party supported donating missiles that the canadian military was decommissioning

01:42:29.020 the supported funds and other armaments to back the ukrainians in the defense of their sovereignty

01:42:35.340 we also need to rebuild our own canadian military because the russians want to make incursions into

01:42:41.340 our waters we'll be buying four massive arctic ice breakers i'll be opening the first arctic base

01:42:49.580 since the cold war in canada cfb iqaluit we're going to double the size of the arctic rangers and fill

01:42:55.980 the vacancies in our canadian armed forces we need a change to rebuild our military which has been so

01:43:02.620 disintegrated under the the cuts and the mismanagement of the last 10 years but we can have a change

01:43:09.340 because we have the best soldiers sailors and airmen in the world and they will have full backing

01:43:15.020 from my government if you give me the honor of becoming prime minister i may come back to that one

01:43:20.060 in the i know a lot of people really don't like the funding of ukraine the thing with the ukraine

01:43:25.180 funding that's extremely stupid from my perspective although i support ukraine is the fact that we

01:43:29.980 just send them money like we just we buy drones from china to send to ukraine which makes no sense

01:43:36.540 at all we're paying a russian ally cash to then make something in their country stimulating the chinese

01:43:42.620 economy so they can send it to ukrainians it's ridiculous why we even send anything to ukraine when

01:43:48.460 it's all counterproductive and it's absolutely destroying our economy to have like billions of dollars

01:43:53.580 leaving every year that's what makes our ukraine funding so stupid volume's idea is like hey how

01:43:58.620 about we just give them the things we're about to throw out anyways the open forum because i'm not

01:44:03.340 sure we got an answer about ukraine on that one but okay what the heck the answer was yes

01:44:10.620 we'll get more details perhaps as we go forward given the u.s trade war should any talk of a referendum on

01:44:16.940 quebec independence be put on pause that one is easy it will happen only after the negotiation is

01:44:24.220 over and that's a good thing i want to say i support the idea we must help ukraine but we also must help

01:44:32.140 the civilians of gasa and we must destroy hamas which is a terrorist organization you know what i don't

01:44:40.300 want to be the leader of canada you will understand that i don't want to be prime minister but i can

01:44:45.580 offer to be a partner a responsible partner a collaborative partner if quebec is respected

01:44:53.820 in its differences in its aluminum industry and lumberwood industry and culture and french language

01:45:01.420 and values of secularity of the state which is the price to be paid in order to have real equality

01:45:06.860 then if we are respected we will be a partner and then even canada will be stronger in its negotiation

01:45:16.620 against donald trump this is what i am offering respect us mr singh i watched last night's debate

01:45:24.380 you seem very eager to talk about health care so let's talk a little more health care right now

01:45:28.780 you have made many promises on health care if a province says to you we'll take your money for health

01:45:35.660 care but not your conditions on how to spend it what do you do we've got to negotiate we can't be

01:45:41.980 giving away a money without clear conditions oh so if uh so if unra is just giving money to hamas

01:45:48.380 what what will you do about it if they say we're going to take your money but we're going to give it

01:45:51.420 to whoever we want including hamas and then singh says i'm going to negotiate it's like dude that doesn't

01:45:57.820 mean anything we're in a health care crisis right now a crisis that is hurting people across this country

01:46:05.260 people are waiting desperately in line in emergency rooms for hours and hours seniors are waiting

01:46:12.540 for years and years to get the care that they need for surgeries that would remove pain or help them

01:46:18.460 deal with mobility issues we're in a serious crisis health care workers are burnt out they are

01:46:24.700 overstretched and what we're seeing is more and more privatization and that is hurting our public

01:46:30.300 universal health care system so we've got to fight back against it we cannot allow our public money

01:46:35.820 to go to a for-profit private clinic lining the pockets of a rich ceo or investors instead of going

01:46:42.700 towards care need to make sure that we are investing in solutions where care gets to people not profiting

01:46:49.740 those at the very top and so that's my commitment i'm going to fight to make sure we defend our health

01:46:53.500 care against the threats of americanization by the way breaking news guys uh they are canceling the

01:47:00.220 leader questions after the debate uh they were starting to try and kick ezra vanden revel news

01:47:05.420 people out of the media side of the debate and now they just don't want to have questions because

01:47:09.740 of how badly uh mark carney's performing is probably what the whole excuse making is in order to try and

01:47:16.060 do okay we now go to open forum debate and perhaps mr polyev you get the first word here this might be a good

01:47:21.660 time to put a little more flesh on the bone of what you think canada could do for ukraine yes the

01:47:26.140 u.s backs out yes and what i my answer is that we should continue to support ukraine we don't need

01:47:30.860 to follow the americans and everything they do when they're wrong then we will stand on our own and

01:47:35.420 with other allies and with respect to ukraine that of course includes support with intelligence equipment

01:47:43.500 armaments but it also includes defunding putin right now vladimir putin has a monopoly on the

01:47:50.300 european energy market because frankly the liberals blocked exports of canadian natural gas off the

01:47:57.820 atlantic coast they blocked multiple projects i would rapidly approve those projects on national

01:48:04.060 security grounds so that we can we can actually ship canadian natural gas over to europe break european

01:48:12.060 dependence on putin and defund the war and turn dollars for dictators back into paychecks for our

01:48:19.740 people mr carney you wanted to add well i i want to go to the situation ukraine because it's uh very

01:48:24.780 important we've been a steadfast canada has been a steadfast ally and canadians have stepped up

01:48:29.420 welcoming ukrainians into their homes um and supporting them in other ways um you know in my first

01:48:35.420 month as prime minister uh we joined the coalition of the willing uh to support ukraine as the u.s step back

01:48:41.900 so led by france uh the united kingdom uh with ukraine number european nations australia ourselves new

01:48:47.980 zealand um by the way the u.s didn't step back to be canada participating in these areas and helping

01:48:55.420 it also means open trade mr polyev voted against free trade uh agreement with you train ukraine it means

01:49:01.820 aid for ukraine mr polyev wants to cut foreign aid including for ukraine or not he didn't mention

01:49:07.420 support for aid for ukraine we have to stand by them we have to be there and this government has

01:49:12.780 been mr say new democrats absolutely support uh standing with ukraine and will continue to do that

01:49:17.820 but i appreciate the opportunity in talking about leadership in crisis talk about many of the crises

01:49:22.940 we're up against and one of the crises we're up against in our country with the threat of donald

01:49:27.740 trump with the threat of the trade war and with the privatization and americanization of our

01:49:32.860 healthcare system is the healthcare system and what we have learned today you know mr carney mentioned

01:49:38.060 slowing operation spending that's a cut to services he said his plan he's a plan to balance the operating

01:49:44.540 budget within three years that's going to require massive cuts to spending we calculated that at 43

01:49:50.140 billion dollars in cuts in fact rosemary barton when he was on the show on february 16th he said

01:49:55.420 we cut spending he said it would be in operations he defined it as transfers in health and finally

01:50:01.660 long-time liberal and former house leader karina gould said that mr carney's plans would mean

01:50:07.740 massive cuts that's the only way to achieve it so mr carney do you think it is leadership

01:50:13.500 to cut health care at a time when it is in crisis i think it is wrong we can't do that

01:50:19.500 we will not cut transfers for health care we will not cut health care spending full stop

01:50:24.060 we'll have a detail if i may do we believe mr carney today or the one he spoke at on rosemary barton

01:50:29.980 show i did the one that repeated again that he would cut spending i mean who do we believe if i

01:50:34.300 may uh consistently said we'll preserve all transfers to the provinces including the increases we will

01:50:40.780 preserve all the transfers to individuals include i won't detail them all but there so we're looking

01:50:45.580 at addressing an operational spend which is about 150 billion dollars um we will address that we will

01:50:52.140 make it more efficient and we will do it in three years and we'll balance that budget i am six minutes

01:50:57.420 behind mr carney so i will speak a little bit longer first i will support any initiative which

01:51:03.740 will which will bring canada aligned with europe and nato in order to be stronger and facing new

01:51:11.100 threats i believe that two percent won't be enough i'm not more in favor of war than anybody else but we

01:51:18.940 have responsibilities and our main ally is removing himself from the stage so we have to step up we have

01:51:27.340 to do our part i want to go somewhere else entirely however i want to ask mr carney if we're speaking

01:51:34.540 about leadership here if quebec and canada were to say you are not being given a majority government

01:51:44.780 there will be more conservatives than you would like maybe more new democrats than you would like and

01:51:50.220 more people from the blood than you would like will you accept because you don't seem to very to be

01:51:56.860 very eager about that to deal with people which basically are more experienced than you are as legitimate

01:52:07.660 as you are and would be more representative altogether than you would be being alone in your little kingdom

01:52:14.780 and i want also to to propose to you all guys that one week after the election one week after

01:52:23.260 the election we all meet whatever the results and we start dealing with this crisis together because

01:52:29.500 this is what people either they are from alberta or quebec or wherever this is what people expect from

01:52:35.820 mr car is that something you could get behind i look forward to meeting with uh everyone uh you're welcome to come steve if you'd like

01:52:42.780 um uh uh week after christ but also that's not very respectful but i'm but honestly we have just gotten

01:52:50.300 into the dull stage of the debate where people are just nattering at each other i'm coming

01:53:00.140 okay i'll come to the court but uh in a crisis yes you need a team uh and you need to bring uh

01:53:08.780 the country along with you so what i did in the first week was to bring the premiers together

01:53:17.580 meet with all the indigenous leaders uh and move forward in that context now the question is who's

01:53:23.980 going to lead out of this whoever leads out of this if i may miss mr blanchet whoever whoever

01:53:31.100 thank you whoever's going to lead out of this is going to need to work with all the provinces work with

01:53:37.020 labor work with indigenous leaders work with all canadians to bring them forward in a united front

01:53:42.540 and one of and make this last point one of the things that has happened which is a credit to those

01:53:49.340 people at home is that canadians are coming together and it's our responsibility to meet

01:53:56.300 the strength of canadian unity still adding that one small point to make you will be elected if you are

01:54:02.540 elected in the parliament where there are other leaders i don't know if he oh people are asking

01:54:07.900 about the volume this is this is as loud as the debate can get because this is the volume of the

01:54:12.860 cpac stream he called you are mr puedev i don't know if he called you but before yesterday you have not

01:54:18.700 spoken to me once even if i proposed it so many times but you say i speak to provinces leaders you're not

01:54:26.460 elected in provinces you are in the parliament where people are to make decisions which might not

01:54:32.460 always suit you but this is democracy i'm going to jump in too much about i'm going to jump in here

01:54:38.460 because i'm noticing what the clock is saying and you brought up gaza earlier and i think our audience

01:54:43.340 would be interested in hearing your views on the other major international crisis honestly i don't care

01:54:49.740 at the same time this is probably a great opportunity for peer poly to drag everyone on this issue because

01:54:54.940 everyone is so flipping radical on this facing the world before we get that just to finish up on the

01:55:00.060 health care i just want to speak to health care workers right now who are deeply worried about the

01:55:04.380 status of our health care system to canadians who believe and love our universal public health care

01:55:09.580 system to patients who are stressed out if you're worried about which mr carney to believe the one today

01:55:15.100 or the one who spoke on 3bs shows and said he would cut over new democrats and we will fight to defend our

01:55:21.100 health care i think you'll never let really like to hear what you have to say about this question

01:55:24.940 and we have less than five minutes for it here what role should canada play in the other major

01:55:29.900 international crisis in this world in the middle east and the war in gaza peer polyev would you start

01:55:35.580 us off on that what role can canada play well first of all we must condemn hamas and more importantly

01:55:43.260 the terror sponsors in tehran who initiated the attacks the horrific attacks of october 7th we need

01:55:51.260 to just to just to defeat the terrorists so that all the peoples of the world can live in peace and

01:55:58.140 defend the right of yes palestinians to have their own lives free from the oppression of hamas

01:56:05.100 dictators and iranian intervention while israel has the ability to live in freedom and peace but i also want

01:56:10.380 to say we need to get back to the canadian tradition which is that when people come to this country they

01:56:15.740 leave foreign conflicts behind the rampaging riots targeting jewish communities is utterly unacceptable

01:56:22.620 and it points to the growing chaos that we see on our streets after 10 years of incredibly

01:56:29.260 irresponsible liberal policies on weak borders of dividing people into groups of saying one thing to

01:56:35.180 one group and the opposite to another dividing and conquering we must end that division and unite

01:56:41.820 our people so that everyone feels safe and that when we come here we put our foreign conflicts behind

01:56:48.700 and we that's that's not people mr sing come from countries from around the world and they care deeply

01:56:53.580 about where they come from and they should be able to do so that's a part of being in our country

01:56:57.740 to have that freedom your treatment of palestine just jake me just say that you want you want calistan

01:57:03.660 just say it come on indians has been frankly disgusting your treatment of people who provide

01:57:08.220 care and service for people in gaza has been disgusting on top of that people in israel and

01:57:13.180 in palestine deserve to live in peace and security and mr carney to date you've not acknowledged that

01:57:17.580 what's going on in gaza is now clearly become a genocide it's important to call things out as

01:57:22.220 they are and you've not done that mr carney we need to work to go to your question we need to work

01:57:27.820 with our international partners maximum pressure maximum encouragement for an immediate ceasefire

01:57:32.060 those first things encourage the return of all of the hostages resumption of humanitarian aid

01:57:37.660 my government put in place 100 million dollars of humanitarian raid which is ready uh to go

01:57:44.380 with respect to where this ultimately goes yes two-state solution but it has to be a viable and

01:57:51.020 free palestinian state living side by side in peace and security with the state of israel i will

01:57:57.420 underscore one other thing mr poly have rightly mentioned iran the iranian sponsors in this

01:58:03.740 region we have to be clear-eyed about the fundamental risk of iran and do everything with our international

01:58:09.740 partners to check it and turn it you should launch it if we are to work together we will have to be

01:58:17.020 consistent the jewish community in quebec and canada is harassed by a very little minority of radical

01:58:27.740 islamists and we don't do so we don't do so i give blush and a lot of credit for actually using the

01:58:34.780 term radical islamist so many people just like oh they're being attacked by people like no it's islamists

01:58:40.540 so much the law in canada says that somebody may invite people to be violent to propose genocide

01:58:50.780 against another people if they can be hidden behind a religious motivation they are in agreement with

01:58:59.580 that they are in agreement with that they are in agreement with that and we say it is a crime to

01:59:04.860 invite people to violence and killing other people and this is what is being done very often in canada

01:59:12.780 in quebec with the approval of the criminal code of canada and we are saying this has to be changed

01:59:19.580 we have to change what we do before we want people elsewhere to change what they do last minute in the

01:59:25.740 segment this is about crises and leadership and one crisis we have is in immigration

01:59:34.460 because of the this liberal government's commitment to a radical policy called the century initiative

01:59:39.980 which seeks to bring our population up to a hundred million people they have allowed massive overcrowding

01:59:45.900 in our communities that has caused housing shortages job shortening immigration for the fault of your

01:59:51.020 government and if i could i think you did i didn't interrupt you i did not i did not interrupt you

01:59:56.220 don't blame i do not blame your let let him finish i i do not blame immigrants i blame the liberal

02:00:01.980 government which brought this policy on and mr carney wants to continue with the century initiative this

02:00:08.060 is crazy we have to get back to normal levels of immigration get rid of the fraud in the temporary

02:00:14.140 immigration system and ensure that the people who come here can be arrive in numbers that we can house

02:00:21.820 employ and care for that's how it always was and that's how we're going to restore thank you mr

02:00:26.780 that's a generally it's generally a good statement on on immigration i would still love it if the

02:00:31.980 conservatives would embrace my policy of instead of 200 250 000 new pr's per year they would go to

02:00:38.220 just 100 000 and then i would like to see temporary foreign workers and students slashed by like two

02:00:42.940 thirds polyev that is our time for this segment uh those are our five themes but we are not done yet

02:00:49.260 we are entering the next section of our debate tonight what we're calling the leader's choice

02:00:54.940 something a little bit different each of you guys you have to forgive me for a second here i need to

02:00:59.740 go to the bathroom so i'm just gonna let this play for a bit while i exit the room we'll get the chance

02:01:06.940 to ask a question any question of any other leader you can then debate the answer and each one

02:01:14.540 on one will last for three minutes so mr singh you have the first option here who do you want

02:01:20.300 to ask your question of mr carney go for it mr carney as chair of brookville investments your

02:01:25.340 company is one of the biggest tax dodgers in canada as chair you approved decisions where brookville

02:01:30.860 investments bought up affordable homes kicked out the tenants and jacked up the rates as prime minister

02:01:36.700 one of the first things you did was a tax cut that helped out mostly millionaires and you have a plan

02:01:42.540 to cut services for people i expect that of mr pierre pauliev and the conservatives that's very much

02:01:48.700 a conservative plan but my concern is that doesn't sound like what people want for a liberal leader

02:01:53.900 so my question to you is mr carney whose side are you really on uh thank you uh thank you very much

02:02:01.820 for that question mr singh uh uh i'm on the side of canadians i'm in this for canadians i work for

02:02:07.900 canadians um but you know i had to show that though no i look well i'm track record of public

02:02:13.260 service uh for this country uh go back to uh something uh mr uh mr blanchet uh referenced

02:02:20.380 earlier uh which is uh have i resolved any crisis uh we're in quebec uh if you ask anyone in the

02:02:26.380 finance industry if you ask anyone in government in quebec in 2008 uh they'll know uh that i resolved

02:02:31.740 the biggest crisis uh in quebec yeah you won't have fun but uh 60 million this is fairness to him

02:02:39.980 with uh this is for these two uh yes i uh i have uh had a uh long career in the private sector i'm

02:02:46.700 proud of that career i've always acted uh with integrity um and it brings me uh with experience

02:02:53.260 that i can apply no one's questioning the moment of christ and you certainly have served the country

02:02:58.300 but the problem is who have you served you've served to benefit those at the very top

02:03:02.780 you jacked up the price of homes for people living in affordable homes let me as this routine it's such

02:03:07.420 a weird thing for him to say i'm not questioning your integrity i'm just questioning your integrity

02:03:11.260 what you should question carney's integrity he doesn't have any you take decision you dodge taxes

02:03:16.780 and then your decisions of the prime minister show you're not prioritizing people but you're

02:03:21.100 pricing big business they're billionaires so the uh what what have we done uh as a government

02:03:26.620 directly so we've gone directly to workers using all of our proceeds from uh the tariffs committing

02:03:32.460 all of them for workers the workers most affected unlike others unlike others who plan to use them

02:03:39.980 use them to uh to cut taxes um we uh are focused on yeah it's not high enough though you have to accept

02:03:46.700 that right now there will be additional programs i i am fully confident that the next government

02:03:52.460 whatever government is formed or certainly if i'm in the next government we will make additional

02:03:56.540 programs but you didn't do that well i can't i you couldn't or you couldn't uh uh given that we're

02:04:01.900 in elections may i make a a core point here if i may which is that when you think about workers

02:04:08.460 here today and people watching at home particularly younger people there is an enormous opportunity in

02:04:14.300 the trades in the skilled trades we are going to build this country in a way that has not been seen

02:04:18.780 before we are literally talking about hundreds of thousands not jobs but careers and that's why

02:04:24.780 we're investing in apprenticeships and mid-careers but i think people are worried mr carney if new

02:04:28.140 democrats aren't there to force liberals to make sure they remember about people they will forget

02:04:31.660 gentlemen that is time thank you for that monsieur blanchet you have the next question to whom would

02:04:35.580 you like to put it mr carney you avoided quite uh quite uh i would say uh skillfully the questions of mr

02:04:44.220 mr uh mr uh singh but first let me correct something in 2008 not so much by your decision

02:04:56.060 10 billions of dollars were given to car industry in ontario while 60 millions not billions of dollars

02:05:05.180 were lent to lumberwood throughout the whole of canada i don't believe that's the right

02:05:14.060 way to manage a crisis since you did not recoup the money from the car industry then you have been

02:05:20.300 the manager of brookfield it's supposed to be a green investment fund but we now know that 50 percent

02:05:29.340 of the investments of brookfield is in fossil fuel it's not so green you seem to want to support oil and

02:05:41.660 gas industry that's interesting you want to support uh prefab housing and uh it's also in the investments

02:05:50.140 of uh brookfield but not in canada you want to support uh nuclear power smaller uh reactors which are

02:06:00.300 more dangerous by the way and uh brookfield as investments in westinghouse uh you haven't even

02:06:08.220 really much of a question he's just destroying mark carney without even asking anything who have

02:06:14.060 it in the money of brookfield in bermuda and cayman allen 30 billions of dollars billions of dollars lost

02:06:22.140 for canada you are having your taxes being paid by families workers elders in canada and quebec instead

02:06:30.620 of paying your own taxes so i want to know will you before the election reveal all the details of

02:06:37.900 your assets as mr uh mr singh has done as mr poiliev has done and as i have done we have a right under

02:06:46.940 those circumstances let's let him answer uh well the first thing is um i want to say a word about uh

02:06:53.500 i'll say a word about brookfield um you know this is a canadian success story it is the largest

02:06:59.740 infrastructure investor and developer in the world it is one of the largest if not the largest developer

02:07:06.140 of renewable power in the world and who benefits from that that's canadian pensioners that's quebec

02:07:11.660 pensioners that is teachers that you're fire fighters it is um a series of people including

02:07:19.660 individuals including individuals on this stage benefit from that now always acted with integrity

02:07:28.140 serve the shareholders of brookfield when i was there this is literally just a filibuster to try

02:07:33.180 and run out the clock i have left that i have followed all the rules well in advance

02:07:42.060 reveal your assets like we all did and working for the people of canada what do you own why don't

02:07:48.060 change canadians and that is what you own we're moving on to mr poliev now who has his opportunity

02:07:53.740 to ask the question of whomever he'd like here and that will be mr carney but if i could look him in

02:08:00.220 by starting by setting the stage the choice in this election is after a lost liberal decade of rising cost

02:08:08.460 and crime and a falling economy under america's thumb do we want to elect them to a fourth term

02:08:15.260 or you want to change change so that you can afford food and homes change so that you can be

02:08:22.460 safe on your street and your change so that your paycheck grows fast dude carney wants to do anything

02:08:27.580 but look over at trudeau he's looked at the left side of the light he's looked to his left he's looked

02:08:32.380 down he's fiddling with his papers he does not want to look at poly of it all because the man

02:08:36.620 is pathetic this guy's going to negotiate with trump he can't even look poly in the eyes faster than your

02:08:41.900 cost of living change with a new conservative government because mr carney has not changed

02:08:47.580 mr carney in 2020 it was recorded you began advising justin trudeau it's still on the liberal

02:08:53.660 party website today that you are justin trudeau's economic advisor they might want to update your

02:08:58.220 website on that in june 3rd of 2021 you said that inflation would be a sign of economic progress

02:09:11.020 and you advised governments including justin trudeau's your liberal government to print money

02:09:18.780 which led to the worst inflation crisis in a generation now that means that mothers went to bed

02:09:27.340 with empty fridges and empty bank accounts worried how they'd feed their kids that seniors worried

02:09:32.220 they'd be evicted from their homes that young people believe they'd never be able to own a home

02:09:37.340 in the first place now in retrospect you look back on the liberal decisions that you advise justin

02:09:43.820 trudeau to take will you look at the camera in the eye and apologize to the many he's actually so pissed

02:09:51.820 looking look how mad mark carney looks he's just like adjusting himself like he's wondering when

02:09:58.380 like when the guards are going to show up to execute poly of people who suffered as a result like look

02:10:05.100 he has like the face of like a disappointed lizard the inflationary policies that you advised justin trudeau

02:10:11.180 to implement you know it's easily this i said earlier but i'm going to say it again

02:10:18.620 i know you want to be running against justin trudeau justin trudeau isn't here are you denying

02:10:23.500 i am here economic advisor i i did not provide any of that advice i did not provide any of that

02:10:29.740 advice i'm sorry are you accusing your liberal party of lying about your role because it says today

02:10:36.300 you can go to the liberal party website now and it says that you're justin trudeau's the way you

02:10:41.180 judge the way you judge someone in my view is how they act what they do when they have responsibility

02:10:47.820 twice i was a central bank governor and in both case if i may if i may in both cases when i was

02:10:53.820 responsible for inflation inflation was less than two percent i'll add that when i was here

02:11:00.540 responsible for the bank of canada inflation was less than two percent our dollar was at parity

02:11:05.820 you that is the kind of success that i can deliver for this country coming on this crisis

02:11:10.780 and you were you were you were the economic advisor what is that justin trudeau that gave

02:11:15.180 us the worst inflation i may bring it we have had in a generation because the policies that you

02:11:20.620 implemented and those of the mps that are still in your ministry to the fellow canadians crisis which

02:11:27.340 the last 10 years has been about the liberals the next 10 years should be about you and that's time

02:11:34.300 mr carney yeah good news is the next question is yours i'm gonna ask myself

02:11:41.500 uh actually i'm gonna ask a question which um has been troubling me um and uh it's troubled me

02:11:49.340 because you know we are in a uh you can tell he's so thrown off balance this is something that he's

02:11:55.980 probably scripted out that he wants to ask because they knew the segment was coming up and he's

02:12:00.060 already like six ums down on the field a very dangerous and divided world who is it to i'm gonna

02:12:05.660 ask a question mr polio why not um we're in a dangerous and divided world we talked earlier about

02:12:12.460 the challenges in the middle east the threats from iran uh threats from russia russia's aggression in

02:12:19.580 ukraine uh we have uh the threats from china which i raised um we have the united states which is

02:12:26.700 which is fundamentally changing its security relationships its commercial relationships

02:12:32.220 we have all this and in the context of that everyone on this stage mr blanchet mr singh myself

02:12:41.340 we have our top secret security clearance we have our top secret security clearance i got mine within

02:12:46.780 three weeks it wasn't hard uh but i felt it was important that i had it so i could be in a position

02:12:51.420 to be informed about that dangerous world and take decisions that and mr polio it is now 950 days if

02:12:59.020 my numbers are right since you've had the opportunity to get your top top secret security clearance and

02:13:06.220 you've refused why this is such a pathetic talking point because this talking point only works when

02:13:13.740 polio can't respond he's going to be able to respond and say i didn't get it because if i read it

02:13:18.380 if i took it i wouldn't have been able to talk about the thing i was getting it for i wouldn't be

02:13:22.540 able to talk about the nissacop report well first of all i have got my security clearance when i was

02:13:28.860 a minister i got top secret clearance at the time so there's no problem getting that but when the

02:13:34.140 government made this recent offer they said that if i got the secret security security clearance

02:13:39.260 briefings that i would be gay under the security law and i could be prosecuted if i spoke freely about

02:13:47.020 matters of foreign interference now given that canada has experienced chinese interference by

02:13:54.300 by beijing the government of china in two consecutive elections i needed to do my job to speak freely

02:14:01.180 without fear of prosecution and that was not something i would be allowed to do even thomas

02:14:06.300 mulcair the former leader of the ndp said that when he was the leader of the of the opposition he never

02:14:12.540 would have accepted the kind of gag order that your government and mr trudeau's government was

02:14:17.180 attempting to impose on me and it's good that i would say i'd made that decision because it has

02:14:21.260 allowed me to speak freely about things like the case where one of your candidates sir oh my goodness

02:14:27.420 why would carney bring this issue up he gets to pivot to joe tay and paul chang said that he wanted to

02:14:34.220 send a political opponent to china under a bounty threatening his life or imprisonment and you

02:14:42.860 refused to get rid of him now it might have something to do with the fact that you went to china

02:14:47.100 not long ago to get a quarter billion dollar loan for your company but the reality is you refused to

02:14:52.700 stand up for a canadian who was being threatened by a foreign government and i was able to speak freely

02:14:58.700 on that matter because i refused the gag order that the liberal government attempted to let him

02:15:03.340 respond well i you know there's a couple interesting things i you i think people at home have seen a

02:15:08.540 you know robust debate here and it's been a robust campaign and oh what the heck what is he going to

02:15:14.300 tell people to go tip their waiters after what is going well this was something this was very

02:15:19.500 interesting i might have a few things to say about that he's so bad at this guys i was never exaggerating

02:15:28.300 over time saying this man is going to suck at the debates because he cannot handle journalists asking

02:15:35.180 him slightly unfriendly questions it was always true this guy sucks at this so badly he is terrible he

02:15:44.060 doesn't know how to actually pivot off things correctly he is so smug and he is so used to the

02:15:51.020 media cleaning up after him that when he can't cut somebody off and cut them out of context he gets

02:15:57.100 absolutely bodied like this and now he's filibustering again it has not stopped mr blanche or

02:16:03.020 mr singh at times during his campaign by making challenges with respect to these issues so one can

02:16:08.620 address it i will observe as someone with the top secret security clearance that china is not the only

02:16:14.460 country that is accused of foreign interference and and gentlemen that is we'll leave it at that

02:16:19.740 that's our time now closing statements are still a few minutes down the road so we have a little bit of

02:16:24.300 time for some quick hit q a's for each of you right now short questions 45 seconds please on the

02:16:31.100 answers and we're going to go left to right as i look at you right now mr polly ev you get the first

02:16:35.020 question to the best of my knowledge you have not offered a hard timeline as the other parties have

02:16:40.780 to meet canada's nato commitment of two percent spending on defense when would you hit that target

02:16:46.940 my aim will be to 2030 that said when we renegotiate our trade deal with the us i know it's their

02:16:55.020 priority to see us increase our military budget one of the things i will say to the americans is the more

02:17:01.100 free trade tariff free free trade we have the faster we can rebuild our military in canada and

02:17:08.540 reassert our sovereignty and we will use that money to have heavy icebreakers in the north beside an

02:17:14.300 aircraft fighter jets a new base in the north double the arctic rangers fill the vacancies in

02:17:20.220 the armed forces and rebuild the warrior spirit that characterized our military since the birth of

02:17:26.860 our country we will rebuild our forces and we will stand behind our veterans thank you mr polly ev

02:17:33.420 mr carney your question you have cut both the consumer carbon tax and the capital gains tax increase

02:17:39.420 that you inherited from your predecessor is that an admission that the liberals made life less

02:17:44.620 affordable for canadians i think the uh let me give you the rationale behind both of those changes

02:17:51.740 first with respect to the consumer carbon tax um in effect it become too divisive for canadians

02:18:00.060 canadians uh received rebates uh on the whole they received more than the tax actually was

02:18:07.180 uh but some uh had represented um that it was a tax without a rebate um it became divisive it didn't

02:18:14.060 serve its purpose it made a relatively modest contribution to overall climate goals i got rid

02:18:18.860 of it first act made canadians whole secondly but with respect to the capital gains taxes come up again i'll

02:18:24.140 be quick this is a fundamental issue we need to build this country builders innovators entrepreneurs

02:18:30.700 need to be rewarded that's why i brought it back and that's time thank you mr singh would you change

02:18:35.020 the existing cap on immigration i said that the level of immigration first of all we need immigration

02:18:40.460 it's fundamentally important to our country and we speak to any small business owner you speak to

02:18:45.180 people here in quebec i should just take votes on whether or not we even let jagmeet singh speak past

02:18:50.540 this point speak to farmers it's fundamentally important a couple things though we know we need

02:18:55.900 to be able to set the amount of folks that we welcome to our country at a level that it meets our

02:19:00.860 needs so i would ensure that we've got an expert panel that makes that determination based on our

02:19:05.500 economic needs uh we also know that uh we should we should be very clear that the lack of investment

02:19:12.220 from liberals and conservatives resulted in the fact that we have a shortage in housing housing

02:19:15.980 that's something that we've got to fix i should also point out um that that if you were worried

02:19:21.180 about the cuts being proposed by liberals and conservatives vote for new democrats we'll fight back

02:19:25.100 to protect uh canadians and make sure that we've got the right immigration levels thank you mr

02:19:29.020 singh that's time mr blanchet quebec i believe is now the only province with a carbon tax do you

02:19:34.780 think that's fair it's not entirely true it's not a tax what car what quebec has is a system by which

02:19:41.820 we invite big emitter big emission companies i don't know how to translate that uh to reduce their

02:19:49.580 emissions if they do not then they have to pay it goes into a fund which is invested then in reducing

02:19:57.260 emissions our partner is california which makes this a huge deal about reducing emissions this is

02:20:04.700 what we do this is to be compared to what europe does and by the way europe would impose tariffs on

02:20:11.660 canadian oil if it ever got there uh we're quite proud of that and we have to be responsible because

02:20:19.180 this is much less expensive than doing nothing climate that's time we're going to do another set of

02:20:25.260 quick hits here left to right again and 30 seconds this time mr poliev you've previously promised to

02:20:32.300 defund the cbc as one of your very first acts as prime minister is that still the plan yes cbc will

02:20:39.500 continue to operate as a self-funded canadian owned and controlled non-for-profit that raises money like

02:20:46.700 other media organizations through sponsorships subscriptions advertising licensing fees and countless

02:20:53.100 other things that will ensure canadians who still want to listen and view its content will be able

02:20:58.460 to do so and at the same time uh we'll allow freedom of the press so that everybody has their voice

02:21:04.540 heard and they can make their own decisions thank you mr carney the next question to you 30 seconds

02:21:09.180 would you remove some of canada's legal tax avoidance loopholes that companies that you have worked for

02:21:15.260 have used um look i think that what we need to do is under by the way guys the right now mark carney is

02:21:24.780 taking the lead in google trends but not for good reason he took the lead about 20 minutes ago back

02:21:31.820 when in real time blanchette was absolutely destroying him on all of the brookfield asset scandals

02:21:38.060 to take a comprehensive review of our corporate tax system um and do that on the basis of the right

02:21:45.260 principles uh we've got to have fairness transparency sustainability and competitiveness so we need a

02:21:56.300 tax system a corporate tax system including being part of a international minimum corporate tax through

02:22:03.740 the oecd and that is time mr singh the question for you is if you hold the balance of

02:22:08.300 power after this election is over what would your price be to support another party we've laid out

02:22:13.900 our priorities we want to make sure we bring down the cost of groceries build homes that people can

02:22:17.660 afford i can also tell you that we would defend cbc unlike mr palya who wants to cut it and we would

02:22:23.660 close tax loopholes and offshore tax evens even though mr carney didn't respond to that and selling stocks

02:22:29.580 in shares to make profits and then having less taxes on that is not hard work and so those aren't

02:22:35.100 the job creators the people who are job creators are the hard-working men and women that contribute to

02:22:39.740 our economy thank you mr singh monsieur blochet kind of the same question if you hold the balance of

02:22:44.540 power in the next minority parliament if it is that what would be the price of your support respect for

02:22:50.300 quebec that's quite easy i don't want to go against what canada wants to do for itself but i don't

02:22:57.180 want canada to impose an economic vision or a multiculturalist vision on quebec which is

02:23:03.180 different in terms of language and values and security and equality between people so i want

02:23:09.020 to be a partner and if quebec is respected canada has nothing to fear from the bloc because we vote

02:23:16.540 for what is good for quebec it only has to be good for quebec thank you mr blanchet now we have one last

02:23:22.940 question for each of you we'll go right to left this time as i look at you a bit of an offbeat

02:23:27.180 question mr blanchet what is your biggest regret during this campaign that's a very good question

02:23:34.780 i'm not very fond of regrets i would say but we should have started sooner to see that we had to

02:23:43.100 create the environment for a deal in which quebec and canada would be one bigger than the other but

02:23:50.460 partners to be stronger in front of mr trump and showing that maybe nobody here is the partner to

02:23:57.260 let go alone without being uh surveyed or controlled or supervised by a quebec voice

02:24:03.740 thank you mr blanchet same question mr singe your biggest regret of this campaign not being able to

02:24:08.700 meet as many people as i would love to have but because he needs to meet more people in his own home

02:24:13.420 riding because they are not voting for him a short campaign and so i can't get to as many communities

02:24:17.900 that i wanted to i think one of the honors of my job is to be able to meet people and to hear their

02:24:22.940 stories and then to take their stories and concerns and bring them to ottawa and to fight for those

02:24:27.500 people and so i want you to know even though i haven't made it to your community i'm going to fight

02:24:31.340 like hell to make sure that you are you're represented that we never let any government

02:24:35.420 cut our health care that we defend the values that we care so deeply about we make my life more

02:24:39.980 affordable that's my commitment to you even if i didn't get to see you that's my commitment

02:24:43.820 thank you mr singh mr carney same question biggest regret of the campaign i'm i'm to be honest it

02:24:48.860 was the it's the same answer this is an astonishing country it is an amazing country and the opportunity

02:24:57.260 and the responsibility that comes with it of being with canadians hearing their stories their

02:25:02.860 challenges drawing strength and ideas from them and being working to be part of the solution is the

02:25:10.380 greatest honor of my life but the regret is that it is also a big country and it is a short period

02:25:16.540 of time mr polyeth last word deal i honestly hate questions like this say something uh i'm gonna

02:25:23.260 we're gonna say tell us something bad about yourself but somehow turn into a good thing it's

02:25:27.020 just stupid i actually agree with these two gentlemen um i had a rule that at all my rallies even when

02:25:33.420 they're really big i would stand in front of a flag and greet every single person and hear their stories

02:25:40.940 and learn their struggles and that was always touching to me that they would put their faith

02:25:47.020 in me or in any of us yeah but we've been in such a rush because we have to get off to the next event

02:25:51.500 so we haven't been able to stop and do that and i want you to know out there i haven't forgot about

02:25:56.940 you thank you thank you mr polyev it is good answer for that question i still just hate those type of questions

02:26:03.900 it's time now for closing statements and prior to the debate you drew lots as to which order we would

02:26:09.180 go in and mr singh you get the first word on a closing statement unfortunately because i want to

02:26:14.460 do a debate review as a standalone video later i'm gonna have to listen to jagmeet singh thank you

02:26:21.580 because you voted for new democrats we were able to build this country that we love no we didn't universal

02:26:26.700 health care and pensions because you voted for us because you voted for new democrats we were able to

02:26:31.100 fight to bring in dental care pharma care and child care because you voted for us because you

02:26:37.660 supported us we didn't you have the power with your vote to send more new democrats to ottawa to

02:26:42.940 continue that fight to make sure that no government cuts the things that we hold dear like our health

02:26:48.220 care to show that we can do everything possible to make life more affordable by making it more

02:26:52.220 affordable to buy your groceries and to get a home i'm asking for your support in this election so

02:26:59.020 that i can continue to fight to defend the things that make canada canada the things that we hold dear

02:27:04.860 the things that make us proud to be canadian thank you mr singh mr cardi we are facing the biggest crisis

02:27:12.140 of our lifetimes donald trump is trying to fundamentally change the world economy the trading system but really

02:27:19.980 what he's trying to do to canada he's trying to break us so the u.s can own us they want our land

02:27:26.060 they want our resources they want our water they want our country and we're all going to stand up

02:27:31.660 against donald trump i'm ready i've managed crises over the years i've built strong economies we will

02:27:39.580 fight back with counter terrorists we will protect our workers in those businesses and we will build

02:27:45.660 the strongest economy we will build canada strong i'm asking for your support the honor of doing so

02:27:53.100 thank you the most five out of ten statement i've ever heard that's all that carney is he is a five

02:27:58.700 out of ten walking on two legs thank you mr carney mr blanchet for 260 years and a little bit more

02:28:07.980 you have tried to have them become canadians like all canadians but to no avail we are different so

02:28:28.300 let's be economic partners let's have a voice chosen by and for quebecers an ally for canadians

02:28:36.860 as equals in front of mr trump mr poiliev only in canada could someone start where i began and

02:28:46.460 get to the stage i was born to a single mother and adopted by school teachers who raised me to

02:28:53.420 believe in the incredible canadian promise that anyone who worked hard could do anything

02:28:58.940 that thought that promise feels broken today many of you worried about paying your bills feeding your

02:29:06.220 families wherever even owning a home you're worried your kids are in danger but i'm here to say doesn't

02:29:13.020 have to be this way with change we can restore the canadian promise so that hard work gets you a beautiful

02:29:19.980 house on a safe street under a proud flag we can do it with hope for a change

02:29:29.420 gentlemen thank you for a very spirited debate tonight so yeah um

02:29:37.260 mark carney lost i think that's what we can conclude pretty early on yeah that was terrible way better than

02:29:44.300 the french debate and i think it absolutely was true that pure poly of was just holding back for

02:29:50.140 this one don't do any don't do anything interesting the french debate there's not much for the conservatives

02:29:55.500 to gain in quebec it's just how quebec works the regions that the different parties own they really

02:30:00.940 own them and you have to gain like 10 of the votes the conservatives to actually start winning

02:30:05.020 substantially more seats than they already have so it seems like what poly of did was he held back and then

02:30:11.660 in this debate he basically just took like carney and just threw haymakers it was like a spinning

02:30:19.100 arm windmill punch to his gut every single time he got the microphone except if the question just

02:30:24.940 wasn't possible to attack someone else on and you look petty that was a clinic on debating carney is a

02:30:32.700 weak candidate i've been saying this his problem is that he is boring he is a he is beige wallpaper

02:30:39.420 personified he has nothing interesting to say all of his attacks from the liberals like the stupid

02:30:45.500 security clearance attack they only work if he doesn't have somebody who can fight back against

02:30:50.540 him in the same room he can make that a case on twitter he can talk about on a news show but as soon

02:30:56.060 as poly of is there standing in front of him he tries to hit him with that security clearance thing

02:31:00.300 poly of can just hit him with a rotary phone and just be like okay but you literally don't care

02:31:05.980 about your own candidates threatening conservative candidates you have been dealing with china you

02:31:10.540 are soft on iran you don't actually care about canada's national security it's it was so good

02:31:16.940 and at the start of the debate that was hilarious it started off with the betrayal of caesar with poly of

02:31:23.420 singh and blanche just stabbing mark carney to death right away to make it so to make it very clear

02:31:29.260 that he is not going to win this election i think right now before this debate i would give a

02:31:35.180 coin toss who's going to win the minority government or majority i now give it this is a 85 percent

02:31:42.060 chance of a conservative victory that was brilliant if any voters were leaning liberal

02:31:49.260 before that debate they are not leaning now or at least half the people who are leaning liberal are

02:31:53.820 not leaning anymore this is going to shred them it might not pop up in the polls tomorrow or the

02:31:59.980 next day obviously it takes a while uh for you to you know they're not it's not going to show up in

02:32:04.220 the polls tomorrow because most polling would have been done before the debate but within two or three

02:32:08.620 days we are going to see a big move because you couldn't have called the car up poly of a bully in

02:32:14.140 that debate which is good it's brilliant he was very firm but he always went back to i'm a strong

02:32:19.740 principled leader who can lead the country forward and i have a nice positive vision for us all good

02:32:25.340 because he always did that to follow up a absolutely staggering attack on mark carney it was very

02:32:32.300 intelligent the way that he did that by the way before i jump over to some super chats because i do need

02:32:38.300 to catch up on those my goodness um isn't it the biggest tell on the planet that the debate commission

02:32:45.660 canceled the uh they canceled the q a period with journalists they know he sucked and it seems like

02:32:53.340 somebody staged some sort of a fight so ezra levant or some independent media people got into a fight

02:33:00.220 and it wasn't the independent media's fault with a journalist at the hill times apparently there was

02:33:04.860 this crazy meltdown that happened backstage with this journalist right in the middle in spotlight

02:33:10.860 looking back towards the independent media guys like jerea and kian and others sitting behind him

02:33:16.300 and getting into this crazy debate or crazy fight for no reason and this is apparently why

02:33:22.220 the debate commission canceled the q a because there was a security threat because a hill times reporter

02:33:28.380 couldn't keep his brain in his head

02:33:39.100 you probably can't hear it very well but apparently this is like this debate that goes on for over five minutes where this man from the hill times is having an absolute meltdown

02:33:53.820 and that is what caused at one point as a relevant to be removed from the room by security and apparently he got like shuffled off to another room and handcuffed or whatever it's nuts what's going on

02:34:06.540 and like i don't know why any of this is happening and like i don't know why any of this is happening

02:34:21.260 um but it gave the debate commission a great excuse to not have the q a afterwards because goodness every media journalist would have to ask carney about his bad debate performance

02:34:32.140 everyone who had any integrity would ask him how he thought that went because it did not go very well at all

02:34:38.860 my goodness um i know some people are saying to show the whole video the audio is a bit off right now

02:34:45.340 if you guys go on social media you'll be able to find it maybe i'll even drop the link to the fight

02:34:51.580 in uh the comments uh kian bexty has it um i will get you his pov footage so that you guys can go

02:34:59.500 watch that if you want uh the actual um you can watch the actual uh debate he had with that hill times

02:35:06.940 journalist uh from his own perspective so you'll actually be able to hear what they're saying but

02:35:12.380 goodness i'm going to do a full debate breakdown later i'm not going to go through all the clips

02:35:18.140 tomorrow or maybe i'll shoot it later tonight i'm not going to go through every single clip of the

02:35:24.460 debate because you should just watch the debate anyone should just watch the debate but i will be

02:35:28.700 going through like the major points all the attacks off from poly of on carney because that's really the

02:35:35.580 main thing here i will mention the the the um the blanchette attacks what he said what sing said

02:35:42.620 his annoying interruptions but the the real thing there is that carney that poly of bested carney

02:35:49.820 and he did it while being positive in terms of yes he was very negative against carney but it wasn't

02:35:54.860 like he had he didn't have this dark demeanor of seeming negative and nasty it was just very very well

02:36:01.500 done that's all i can say there um just going to some of the uh the super chat so we can catch up

02:36:08.140 um hugh hugh says for five dollars the fact that carney married a trans woman is very stunning and

02:36:17.500 brave i wouldn't be i wouldn't be rude to his wife guys he's not his wife's fine um programmer x for

02:36:25.340 five dollars says we didn't need housing under him while all homes were affordable absolutely i know

02:36:31.180 programmer x is talking about sing saying you only built six homes when you were the housing minister i'm

02:36:35.900 like yes affordable housing is stupid affordable housing programs by the government don't work

02:36:42.220 and so i'm happy that when poly of was the housing minister he mostly just focused on making it so

02:36:47.420 that the private market could provide housing verinder city says what do you think so far fun

02:36:53.340 lame parts of the debate were lame parts of it were very fun every time it went to carney or sing

02:37:00.380 and blanchette for an extended period of time that's where the debate went to die

02:37:03.900 i actually saw jj mccullough talking earlier today on twitter saying that he went in vancouver to go

02:37:09.980 watch the debate in the theater and he said that some people were getting up halfway through and

02:37:13.980 leaving and he said it was because it was kind of boring i think it's probably because they were

02:37:18.620 liberal supporters who knew that he was losing that carney was losing anthony salerno says why sorry

02:37:24.860 about the spam i got a little excited no worries thank you for the two dollar super chat um two dollars

02:37:30.300 from anthony salerno uh white claypool for prime minister carney for jail well you know maybe one

02:37:36.700 day who knows maybe i'll try and run for prime minister uh for now i'd run for mp i hope i'm allowed

02:37:42.780 to run someday rather than being kicked out of a nomination like i was if you guys don't know the

02:37:47.740 background i ran for the calgary signal hill nomination in 2024 and right before the election the

02:37:54.780 vote because i had around a thousand supporters and i was very clearly probably one of the favorites

02:37:59.740 to win i was kicked out alongside another person because they wanted to advantage one candidate and

02:38:05.260 i actually mobilized my people still vote down ballot against that person and they still lost

02:38:10.060 and that person since then even though they lost the calgary signal hill nomination despite being

02:38:14.540 given every advantage by hq then was appointed to another riding and they're running currently in

02:38:19.420 calgary it's so pathetic but i will definitely run some other day cmz says for 13.99 thank you for

02:38:27.020 that i'll be happy once the election is over i'll hopefully not have to see mark carney jagmeet singh

02:38:31.820 and especially frank dominic on a near legally basis on a near uh near legally sometimes daily basis i am

02:38:38.540 so sorry for showing too many clips of frank dominic but he tends to make my points for me that the left

02:38:43.660 doesn't have any points kichi come for five dollars thank you for that says the left have always been

02:38:51.020 better in delivering their message than us right-wingers hopefully pierre poliev can change that

02:38:56.060 and i absolutely think he did tonight carney just talks like a bureaucrat even at his best he's not

02:39:03.580 good and that's the problem that the liberals went into this debate with let more than a third of

02:39:09.420 their supporters not being very decided on the liberals this was such a bad performance for for

02:39:15.500 carney i could see even people who thought they were decided for the liberals changing votes but

02:39:19.660 even if it's just the soft supporters who might end up leaving in some portion they're so dead they

02:39:24.540 can't lose 10 or 20 of their soft supporters they need every bit of it to win and they absolutely lost

02:39:30.940 and uh and uh poliev gained anthony salerno says for two dollars jake meets derp derp derp derp derp

02:39:40.540 yes paul singh was just nauseating he was just annoying he was like a cuckoo clock every time someone

02:39:49.100 else is talking he would start interrupting them and he'd have nothing to interrupt you just go you

02:39:53.020 don't actually believe in in public health care oh poliev is lying he wants to let people pollute all the

02:39:59.500 time it's like okay okay there fair enough oh my goodness anyways ct e uh ctr lee for five dollars

02:40:10.780 says carney have to use the trump card because that's his trump card and it didn't even notice

02:40:16.940 how he even stopped using it after the halfway mark because i think at some point it started just

02:40:21.260 getting obnoxious because trump was a big issue three weeks ago right now it really feels like you're

02:40:27.500 just you know some old 60s band you're herman's hermits playing the same hits over and over and

02:40:33.660 over again for for a he's like neil young he will not stop playing old stupid songs nobody wants to

02:40:42.940 listen to anymore i have a particular dislike for neil young not just since he endorsed carney he's just

02:40:50.140 always sucked him endorsing carney is the american dream album of endorsements to put it that way

02:40:58.300 jimmy i love that you have crow t robot as your uh as your um uh avatar it's literally the background

02:41:05.580 to my uh browser right now or my my desktop it's the uh them looking at my desktop like it's a movie

02:41:12.220 screen and i was literally just watching the mst3k episode for final sacrifice which i recommend to

02:41:18.140 everybody because it's an alberta based film uh that they make fun of it's a whole show if you don't

02:41:23.340 know mystery science theater 3000 where they just make fun of really bad movies uh with uh these like

02:41:29.980 robot puppets uh commentating but jimmy for 699 says seeing the downfall of mark and i don't mean

02:41:37.020 trip from the curb i mean a cliff absolutely that was bad i know i don't think the liberals are going to be

02:41:43.660 like 28 on election day because of this but they'll be at 38 or 39 or 37 maybe they'll just be 40

02:41:52.300 but i guarantee the conservatives will probably win not guarantee i can't guarantee anything

02:41:56.780 but i could see now the conservatives winning the popular vote by three or four points

02:42:02.540 status lav kogan for two dollars says please less pontification i'm sorry if i pontificated i just

02:42:08.700 didn't want the debate stream to just be sitting there saying nothing going oh because you could

02:42:14.460 just watch cpac and then just tune in later hugh for two dollars says please keep pontificating why

02:42:20.620 that's why we watch well i guess why some people watch status lab doesn't appreciate me or something

02:42:27.020 like that um bushrat for ten dollars thank you says most politicians are insulated from the effects of

02:42:32.780 crime everyday people encounter we need a pc government tougher in crime peer poly of gets

02:42:38.460 this and his his crime and question or answer that was actually an underrated part of the debate not

02:42:45.100 that it's people have really evaluated the debate yet but in time i think that will be underrated

02:42:50.460 he was the tough on crime guy and everyone else was the waffler every single other person was the

02:42:55.580 waffler especially jagmeet singh who was called out by the moderator steve pakin in his question

02:43:00.540 saying well you've talked about wanting to reduce the presence of the rcmp because of

02:43:04.940 institutional racism or whatever and then jagmeet singh had to basically dodge like he's like the

02:43:09.980 roadrunner or something like that um i think i just saw the roadrunner because that's somebody's

02:43:14.700 avatar in chat scott s says for twenty dollars you're the man wyatt thanks pal well you're the man

02:43:21.340 scott for having sent in a twenty dollar donation but thank you for that and thanks for supporting the show

02:43:26.380 life of timothy three x uh three times seven equals 21 says for twenty dollars is there a rampant

02:43:34.860 is there rampant crime in canada because we have no rights to defend ourselves or weak laws i personally

02:43:39.740 think it's a combo with about 90 because we dial 911 after a crime rather than prevent it we need

02:43:45.260 more laws i would probably flip that because there is more crime in many american cities despite gun

02:43:51.500 ownership fundamentally that there are layers of defense because generally speaking criminals don't

02:43:58.620 break and enters aren't very common and that's what personal gun ownership does prevent that's why i

02:44:03.900 believe we should be allowed to have personal gun ownership but that tends to be the more rare crime

02:44:08.380 the main thing is retail theft it's random violence in the streets from uh you know drug addicts it's

02:44:14.780 random uh it's car thefts it's stuff where the criminal is not is trying to not encounter somebody to

02:44:20.860 stop them whether they have a gun or not so i would say 90 of the problem is our weak laws 10 is the

02:44:26.700 lack of free access to gun ownership for law-abiding citizens i think we should have that and i don't

02:44:33.020 disagree with you at all i just think that it's mostly the weak the soft on crime laws that have made

02:44:38.860 a violent crime and retail theft and drug crime so rampant uh life of timothy two dollars says less

02:44:46.540 laws and bureaucracy more rights to defense here's also an interesting thing in calgary because i used

02:44:52.540 to be a supervisor at a liquor store for five years straight so i have had to call the police on people

02:44:56.780 i've had to stop people trying to steal from us i've been told don't even prevent them from stealing

02:45:01.500 because you know it's not worth it because they're they're probably not going to get locked up for

02:45:05.980 anything if you stop them um but the thing is that i've been told by the calgary police that it is

02:45:11.580 like legitimately you go out there you arrest a guy you book him he immediately gets out of prison

02:45:16.540 and then you're stuck doing paperwork for like five hours even if it's just a mere like stopping

02:45:20.940 somebody for basic theft or and it's like clear cut they did it they still get out anthony salerno for

02:45:29.340 five dollars says local 496 in calgary supports ndp and liberals i need to see what the local 496 is in

02:45:36.380 calgary i wonder if you're talking about the police because that was you said that i remember right

02:45:43.180 when we were talking about police in the debate um sorry i'm now looking this up i'm just curious

02:45:50.460 about this i assume that that's what you meant it's loading a bit slow at the moment um

02:45:58.460 unless you're talking about oh it's his pipes trade union in calgary well maybe that's just them

02:46:03.020 being dumb then because every other trade union in the east is going for the conservatives

02:46:07.980 jimmy for the two for 279 says middle debate grading for all the leaders

02:46:13.020 okay and we are past the middle point but if i was just a middle point of the debate i would give

02:46:18.140 carney like a c a c minus which is what i gave in the french debate just nothing to write home about

02:46:23.820 had some bad moments overall is just i would have given poly up at that point an a and i would give

02:46:29.580 him an a after the debate too after the debate midway point i give him a c minus after the debate

02:46:35.020 d minus that was just bad jagmeet singh midway gets a d at the end he gets an f because he was just

02:46:42.220 annoying maybe the maybe the left of canada liked that but i can't get in the minds of somebody that

02:46:47.740 left wing who would think that that was good um blashet midway through i would say he got a

02:46:53.180 b minus he didn't wasn't that good early on and i think he recovered a bit and had a b plus by the

02:46:59.340 end i think blanchette has been a solid debater in both debates i even think i gave him an a in the

02:47:03.820 first one um oh did i accidentally i think i actually unstarted that one uh it doesn't matter

02:47:12.140 do i worry about it so um yeah me 08018 for five dollars says new immigrant here can find an

02:47:20.300 engineering job uh can't find an engineering job because of the crap licensing laws graduated from

02:47:25.660 chicago and then you waterloo what's stupid you literally went from the university of waterloo and

02:47:31.260 you can't get licensed in canada that's actually insane and yeah like why wouldn't we want people

02:47:36.700 who are engineers who have studied in the us and canada to be immediately allowed to work here

02:47:41.820 and yeah i feel for you because all my friends are engineers and computer scientists for the most

02:47:45.980 part one guy's an artist and i want him to start making mugs and t-shirts for the channel because

02:47:50.940 he's a very good artist interesting flow for ten dollars says thanks for your optimistic coverage

02:47:56.780 do you see blanchette as an ally to the cpc and i should i vote bq if my writing has a good chance of

02:48:01.980 flipping a liberal seat even though i'm a conservative i would actually say yes if the bloc

02:48:06.940 cabicois have a better chance of beating the liberals than the conservatives then i would go for them

02:48:11.500 the bloc can easily be an ally of the conservatives if there's a minority government they will be

02:48:15.820 obstinate on energy they will be obstinate on equalization although polyev rightfully so is not

02:48:20.940 promising to end it that is a second or third term thing to do because what you want to do to change

02:48:25.980 equalization is first improve the economy so much most of the provinces or have a have provinces rather

02:48:31.580 than have not provinces then you can start making changes but the bloc cabicois its survival is based on

02:48:39.420 not being seen as liberal lap dogs that's why blanchette has been rightfully very aggressive

02:48:45.020 with carney he knows that if he he's he is he is complicit with the liberals what's the point of

02:48:51.180 voting bloc if in quebec voting bloc and liberals the same thing he has to differentiate himself and

02:48:55.900 that's what he's doing in that debate and that's why he will be more willing to work with conservatives

02:49:00.220 to prove that he's dynamic and his party can shift who it's willing to support to see you know how

02:49:05.260 they're going to perform as long as they respect quebec so you know he's a bit of a broken record

02:49:10.380 but he's a broken record for a very specific reason chad harris says for five dollars thank

02:49:15.820 you chad i don't understand how anybody can listen to mark's crony statements and not see the blatant

02:49:21.340 contradictions to his other statements and track record most people won't because most people are not

02:49:27.740 like political junkies but there will be enough people who see the contradictions because he's not

02:49:32.940 going to convince any conservatives with this routine anyone who's currently voting conservative

02:49:37.100 but there might be a good portion of liberals like 10 even just five percent who are like

02:49:42.620 well that doesn't line up with what he said 20 minutes ago and they might end up defecting or going

02:49:46.940 to the ndp or just not voting and liberals losing five percent of the current vote is them losing a

02:49:52.220 point and a half or two percent that would be very very bad for them epic encore for five dollars

02:49:58.300 thank you says why won't anyone ask carney if he thinks trudeau's government was good his answer

02:50:03.180 could expose him and cost him votes well you have to then give uh kian bexty credit over at juno news

02:50:09.340 because he asked him that at the q a which is also why they put the debates commission probably

02:50:13.420 canceled the community this time because he got absolutely swamped by independent conservative media

02:50:18.220 and it's just random chance it's just random draw that they are allowed to ask a question and kian asked

02:50:23.180 him if he thought pure uh justin trudeau was a good prime minister and he said yes he was a good

02:50:28.140 prime minister he talked about a lot of good issues and we share a lot of opinions on things and

02:50:32.060 i think he had the general right direction it's like oh my goodness dude that's such a stupid

02:50:37.180 answer nobody likes like trudeau nobody there are certain liberals who really do like him but saying

02:50:42.780 you like him is not winning any votes and frankly saying you don't like him or you thought he messed

02:50:47.100 up is not going to get any of those hardcore liberal trudeau lovers to leave because they are

02:50:51.420 more dedicated to the liberal party than they are to trudeau even if they almost worship him

02:50:56.060 as a cult leader programmers x for five dollars says carney is trying to use buzzwords and fantasy

02:51:03.020 works to confuse the old people to keep voting for him i think so and that's what he was probably

02:51:07.980 using with the trump line he knows and it's not going after older voters it is just a fact though

02:51:14.380 that someone over the age of 55 or 65 is more likely to be watching television news as their main source

02:51:20.460 of information so those people are naturally going to be more likely to be teed up on thinking that

02:51:25.740 trump is the biggest problem on the planet at all times and that whoever says that they dislike trump

02:51:30.380 the most is getting their vote and that well didn't you listen to all of carney's great priorities

02:51:35.340 that the cbc has been gushing about it sounds great and this still also happens with people who are

02:51:40.860 very young on the left they constantly get tick tock videos promoting stupid garbage that the ndp is

02:51:47.900 doing and they think it's brilliant because all they get is a diet of ndp nonsense so that is correct

02:51:54.220 that i think that's why he's throwing those buzzwords in he's using the buzzwords that global news ctv news

02:51:59.020 and cbc have been hitting on for weeks because he's trying to kind of cash in on the sort of fertilizing

02:52:05.500 that the those legacy media companies have done for voters who watch a lot of legacy media programs

02:52:11.180 programs x says dude said the word islamist wow and you're referencing blanchette calling out the

02:52:18.140 islamists attacking jewish people in quebec and in ontario as probably as well as vancouver and that

02:52:24.700 was good i give him credit uh jason curling says for two dollars thank you jason uh thank you uh thank

02:52:31.740 you stream this well i assume you mean thank you for streaming this but you probably have your word count

02:52:36.780 get cut off uh because they have very small amounts of words you're allowed to use if you

02:52:41.340 only pay two dollars but obviously i'm gonna try and get back to live chat i i do not require people

02:52:46.140 to donate to ask me questions but you guys are just frankly very nice and generous uh all the way for

02:52:51.980 ten dollars just sends in ten dollars and that's it and that's why all the way is a hero of the chat

02:52:59.420 moto gear solid for five dollars which i assume is a slight reference to metal gear solid says

02:53:05.820 they just canceled the post media scrum they know carney got cooked they want him answering

02:53:10.700 questions for 10 minutes they don't want him answering questions for 10 minutes to independent

02:53:14.620 media absolutely and yeah so he got cooked they thought the independent media questions went terrible

02:53:20.220 last time so they just got rid of it completely they do not like rubble news that much um leighton

02:53:27.660 tomlinson says for 6.99 insane how the topic of conversation in these debates has done a 180 degree

02:53:34.060 since 2021's debate before there would be a left-leaning they would all be at left-leaning

02:53:38.780 talking points absolutely absolutely and that was the tragedy of erin o'toole as conservative leader

02:53:45.900 utterly garbage fumbled every issue and because of media pressure and activist group pressure he would

02:53:51.580 constantly knife his base in the back guys if you ever run in politics it's not that you should

02:53:57.900 constantly spout off what hyper populist rhetoric that people use online because people talk online

02:54:04.860 not the way people talk in real life and it would rightfully turn people off the way you talk on

02:54:09.580 twitter is not how you should talk to someone at the door but politics is a game of bases you are

02:54:15.980 driving out your base that is what an election campaign is all about don't chase the voters who don't

02:54:22.460 want to show up know what you do 90 of the people who are going to get you elected are the people who

02:54:28.060 really like you drive those people out and eventually the other 10 that you need will show up too because

02:54:34.700 a friend got them to vote or you know a lot of people have confidence in this guy i guess i'll vote

02:54:39.580 for him too or maybe they don't love you but they like a couple of the issues that you talk about quite

02:54:44.380 passionately they don't like you maybe on they don't like you on social issues or they don't love you

02:54:49.260 on economic issues but they really like you on crime that is how you put together a coalition

02:54:54.700 but erin o'toole's idea was that oh if a moderate in the middle voter doesn't like me talking about

02:54:59.980 this i'm going to stop talking about that and then i'm going to reverse my position on this and then

02:55:03.340 i'm going to roll out some very mealy-mouthed moderate language to make it seem like i connect

02:55:08.460 with them stop chasing the voters who don't want to vote for you it's foolish anyway so

02:55:15.260 oh i almost missed brandon here or brayden brayden camfus or camp fuse i think i'm saying

02:55:23.100 that right camp fuse or 699 says i still feel like there's a lack of authenticity with pierre

02:55:29.020 if you're detecting that in a debate i would say it's because every leader's a little bit

02:55:33.020 unauthentic when it comes to the debates uh like his last thing where he's like i feel very bad not

02:55:38.060 being able to hear people's stories and he's a little teary-eyed he's like he's not actually teary-eyed i

02:55:42.380 i think it's just a debate thing you know maybe he can think about something that gets him emotionally

02:55:46.460 worked up but i would say that polly of his best when he's doing those long-form discussions because

02:55:51.580 you can't really hide who you are in them and i think he's a fairly decent guy when all things come

02:55:56.620 down when you come down to it uh but yeah authenticity on a debate stage is not what you should be looking

02:56:01.500 for because debates are not about authenticity so oftentimes sophia 6547 uh for five dollars thank you for

02:56:11.260 that sophia some people are saying polly wasn't aggressive enough ie he wasn't uh when he's in

02:56:17.580 question period he didn't have a brian malroney moment thoughts um i really don't i i think he was

02:56:23.660 perfectly fine i thought he really battered carney hard on the questions he needed to carney looked

02:56:28.860 unprepared carney was just a complete sourpuss the entire time that guy looked like he like was stuck

02:56:36.300 in the woods for like 10 weeks and we just stuck him on the debate stage he's like wants a shower

02:56:41.020 i shouldn't even have to be here i'm tired i don't like it he was horrible as i had said he looked like

02:56:46.540 a disappointed lizard so much whenever people were attacking him zod for five bucks thank you zod

02:56:53.660 i wish polly have explained how he enabled the private industry to build homes and that six house

02:56:58.540 figure is just through the federal government yeah so and i think it's just more so he maybe not

02:57:04.140 wanting to be sidetracked i wish he would have just said yes because i i enabled the private sector to

02:57:09.020 build homes because i don't believe it's the government's duty to be driving the housing

02:57:13.260 market we should be enabling the housing market to drive itself michael habib for 20 thank you michael

02:57:19.980 says look at the cbc they're trying to tell people what to think about before voting right now

02:57:25.820 the panels on the cbc are such garbage i know i'm probably going to see someone from the cbc say mark

02:57:30.380 carney did quite well actually if you think about it you know english is not his actual first language

02:57:35.740 so you should have more you know you should be more more likely you should be more like

02:57:41.580 congratulatory of him because you know that actually lying is for his first language so english is very

02:57:47.020 difficult for him but yeah it's pathetic um right now the uh the google trends my goodness my voice here

02:57:55.020 google trends is currently um my goodness google trends is currently showing poly event and mark

02:58:05.580 carney tied but based on how that debate went i really don't see it as being positive in mark

02:58:12.460 carney's side if people are looking at mark carney it's not exactly for good reasons um and it's also

02:58:17.500 hard not to be one of the main guys looked up in the debate where you're one of the main two people on stage

02:58:22.300 um david edwards for five bucks says carney royally effed up by asking that security question also how

02:58:30.940 was the feeling at the doors and balls riding i've done one day of door knocking and barbara balls

02:58:36.380 riding of nepean running against mark carney directly this the second day there was a lot of

02:58:40.700 gotv prep work that i was doing in their office it was just you know putting stickers on stuff and

02:58:45.740 you know putting things in boxes and preparing it for tomorrow and then i was in canada today

02:58:49.660 but doing gotv um basically a door hanger dropping for all the key supporters of greg kung

02:58:57.100 the conservative candidate in uh canada we were just making sure that they had all their information

02:59:01.660 so they can vote early tomorrow guys by the way vote tomorrow or vote the next day or vote

02:59:07.580 anytime in early voting make sure the lines are very low or very thin on election day so that those

02:59:15.420 low propensity voters don't balk at the size of you of of the lineup and say i'm just going to go

02:59:20.780 home and watch hockey or football make sure that the lines are free and clear so those people who

02:59:25.740 don't usually vote don't think an hour i'm not standing in line for an hour so yeah also subscribe

02:59:31.500 to the channel guys dang it subscribe to the channel because you actually can't comment unless you've been

02:59:35.580 a subscriber for at least an hour um smug doug for 13.99 says why the channel is doing well over

02:59:43.420 2000 canadians are taking time other evenings to watch you right now congratulations yes i am

02:59:48.940 absolutely blessed by your guys's presence tonight thank you for so many people watching

02:59:53.420 and actually taking a part of their evening out to uh you know spend it with me watching the debate

02:59:58.700 i absolutely agree with smug doug that is very nice of you all makers and joe for 6.99 thank you

03:00:05.580 for that waiting for center of uh center of beliefs control cbc try and spin this peer nailed the

03:00:13.020 debate great connect connection with audience absolutely he that's the thing he had the pattern

03:00:17.820 of he slammed carney and then he stood up confidently and talked about his vision that was very good it

03:00:23.100 was it a bad debate for polyev even if he was hitting carney hard would have been if he was

03:00:28.940 hitting him and he was hitting him and he was hitting him and he was hitting him and it was being

03:00:32.700 negative of the trudeau government then he was hitting carney more that would have made him look like a

03:00:37.420 bully in a way that the cbc is trying to been been attempting to prep people for that he's a bully he's

03:00:43.500 trump-like so if he was too sanctimonious if he was too strident then he would have made himself look

03:00:49.740 bad he would again wallop carney and while carney was on the floor wheezing he would then say you

03:00:54.780 know what we should be doing for canadians a bunch of like this and that or whatever very well done by

03:01:00.060 by um polyev on that front crimson phoenix for 20 thank you for that i'm a bit indecisive right now

03:01:08.060 i'm in uh rivierre de mills uh riding and i don't know if i should keep my conservative vote or go block

03:01:14.620 for a chance to steal a seat from the liberals lanchette was great by the way and i would agree

03:01:18.780 blanchette especially for the man who's speaking his second language in that debate did quite well

03:01:23.900 if the bloc hebrew have a better chance in your riding i'd vote for them i assume you're around

03:01:28.140 the uh the montreal suburb area or in montreal itself there's no chance of conservatives winning

03:01:33.820 in montreal outside of mount royal if you live in mount royal definitely vote conservative if you

03:01:37.820 don't live in mount royal but you're in montreal vote bloc quebecois um because there's no chance

03:01:42.540 that conservative wins in those ridings for the most part five dollars from peeper gene thank you for that

03:01:48.940 love your channel watching from the usa this debate has put some of my worries for the election at

03:01:53.580 ease praying for canada and polyev are you down in phoenix because i know a lot of people in canada

03:01:58.140 always skip down to phoenix for the warmer weather i'm a weird person but yeah thank you for the five

03:02:03.100 dollar super chat i'm a weird person which goes without saying but i hate warm weather i like maybe

03:02:10.540 15 degrees past that i melt i can walk in very cold weather without much of like a coat or a sweater

03:02:17.180 on because my goodness i'm so warm-blooded if it actually does get warm outside i start overheating

03:02:22.140 it's crazy anthony salerno says break cbc breaking news mark carney wins the debate oh of course he won

03:02:30.140 the debate uh but yeah the cbc is going to try and clear uh claim it celtic lighting just sends in five

03:02:36.380 bucks thank you celtic lighting i assume that you are an actual lighting company guys if you know

03:02:41.820 where celtic lighting exists go use celtic lighting nerdy dave dd says discovered your channel a few

03:02:48.060 weeks ago thank you for the constant quality coverage well thank you for watching considering

03:02:52.700 that i am just a man with a microphone and a literal camera i literally have to attach the camera

03:03:00.620 onto the top of my laptop this is not a professional camera and then i have this like light that britney

03:03:06.060 got me to buy which is a very good asset here because usually when i went to hotels i would just

03:03:10.540 have like the worst hotel lighting around me everything was to be like hazy and like warm

03:03:14.860 it was horrible but yeah thank you for watching and subscribing eric c for 27.99 says just wanted to

03:03:21.740 say i love your work and watch every day keep it up go blue leafs and pierpolioff well thank you and

03:03:27.740 is toronto actually in the playoffs this year you will be not be shocked to find out that i do not

03:03:35.020 watch a lot of uh hockey oh wow they're actually first in their division okay wow okay well knowing

03:03:41.980 it's the toronto maple leafs they're still somehow going to find a way of losing the losing the

03:03:46.220 playoffs but you know honestly i hope they win i actually know who i hope they win i hope the senators

03:03:51.820 win if they elect a conservative other than polly around the trot the ottawa donut if they elect greg kung

03:03:57.420 or they're at or especially if they're uh elect barber ball senators are allowed to win and i'd

03:04:02.940 want them to win because the senators have never won and i like underdogs winning things because

03:04:07.180 it's funny to me like i want the winnipeg jets to win because there are so many people who watch

03:04:12.460 hockey in the u.s who are like where's winnipeg because nobody knows where winnipeg isn't on a map

03:04:17.340 barely in canada uh f hawk nine uh five nine five says thoughts on carney's question to pierpolioff on

03:04:24.460 pierpolioff not getting a security clearance i think it did major damage to carney based on

03:04:28.780 polioff's answer 100 it was so easy for to turn that around on him it was such a stupid question

03:04:34.700 because it's a question or it's a it's a dig at the conservatives and polioff that only works

03:04:40.300 back when polioff and the conservatives couldn't respond because either carney's just saying it to

03:04:44.780 a media outlet and they're just printing what he said and there's no ability for the conservatives

03:04:49.500 to have a right of reply at the time it's great fodder for emails for donations it's great on

03:04:55.420 social media but if polioff is in the room saying hey whoa whoa if i actually took that security

03:05:00.940 clearance i wouldn't have been able to even talk about foreign interference at all i wouldn't have

03:05:04.460 been able to talk about anything that is even tendentially related to the nissacop report which

03:05:10.380 means he couldn't have talked about the paul chang situation that might be an exaggeration he might

03:05:15.500 have been able to talk about the paul chang situation but still he is generally correct

03:05:20.140 that you wouldn't have been able to talk about a lot of foreign interference that was going on

03:05:24.700 celtic lighting says for five bucks free the shackles canada vote polioff absolutely i know

03:05:30.220 there are some ppc people flooding the chat early on and talking about like well polioff is actually

03:05:34.780 lefty no he's not are there things i wish polioff was better on from my perspective absolutely

03:05:40.620 i'm pro-life i wish he was pro-life i wish he wanted to reduce immigration as much as me

03:05:45.340 i wish a bunch of things i wish he was in favor of open carry or concealed carry for handguns

03:05:50.140 that'd be great um he's not but he's also a thousand times better than the liberals the ppc

03:05:56.300 saying to have you read our platform our platform's better than conservative platform

03:06:00.060 one that's happily debatable because i do not agree with a lot of ppc foreign policy

03:06:04.620 and their plan of saying zero immigration is unreasonable in the extreme i'm in favor of heavy

03:06:09.660 immigration cuts at the same time i want a certain amount of flexibility if there's some engineer

03:06:15.180 who wants to move here from nigeria i want him if there's some random low-wage worker from bangladesh

03:06:21.180 who wants to move here with seven dependents no i do not want him so i would want a hundred thousand pr

03:06:27.100 cap and a severe reduction of temporary foreign workers and students with values testing and a severe

03:06:33.740 and a severe but a strict point system that doesn't allow you to bring tons of dependents with you

03:06:39.500 and requires you to have means when you show up you don't get to show up with zero dollars and

03:06:43.420 then constantly need to feed on the system and david edward says for five bucks listen everyone in

03:06:49.740 ontario your early poll stations are open at 9 a.m tomorrow morning get out and vote early vote like

03:06:54.860 your country depends on it absolutely by the way guys subscribe to the channel it won't help the

03:07:00.060 country but it helps me out i'm just kidding but uh i just suspect that there's more than 2 000 people

03:07:04.860 watching there might be people who are not yet subscribers so do that and if i get to 100 000

03:07:09.420 subscribers by mid-december of this year i don't have to buy my friends dinner because i made this

03:07:14.860 very stupid bet where if i get to 100 000 subscribers by that point they owe me dinner like four guys own

03:07:23.340 me one guy dinner but if i lose i owe all of them dinner it's mostly just a bet to freak myself out so

03:07:30.700 much that i have to keep growing the channel you know so i can't wake up and be lazy

03:07:37.340 uh jbf flotum says for 279 did poly have misstep with the 2030 uh two percent nato timeline i don't

03:07:46.060 think he did i think he put out a frankly realistic timeline we're only at like 1.2 1.3 spending right

03:07:53.340 now but the problem with a lot of that spending is it's complete crap it's a dei hr nonsense and we

03:07:58.780 don't actually spend on real military equipment that was my point about ukraine we send ukraine

03:08:04.380 garbage we spend two billion dollars sending ukraine garbage we pay the chinese who are russian allies

03:08:11.260 to send purely reconnaissance drones to ukraine do we not think that china might be allowing the

03:08:18.300 russians to have access to that data that the ukrainians are collecting with the drones i don't

03:08:22.780 know how they work but i wouldn't exactly want china to be involved so we are literally pumping the

03:08:27.660 economy of china to send things to ukraine rather than doing what the americans do and just giving

03:08:32.700 them old military equipment we are going to throw out anyways because old military equipment from

03:08:36.940 canada and the us is still modern by ukrainian standards michael says for five pounds or five

03:08:46.380 euros for five almighty euros 78 to 80 favors carny on poly markets let's make some money back and vote

03:08:54.300 poly of for the win i do not doubt that a lot of people would make money on poly market if they end

03:08:59.820 up giving uh betting on carny although i do not bet i actually in fact turn off betting ads on the

03:09:05.020 channel because what you can do if you ever get monetized on youtube and i would recommend all

03:09:09.340 youtubers do this i turn off any ads about alcohol gambling anything that's sexually suggestive

03:09:14.780 and whatnot i'm trying to run a family channel i'm not going to put up stuff like uh you know get

03:09:19.580 rich quick scheme ads and whatnot going on um gi joe dave c says straight uh straight from the pit

03:09:27.660 just gives 10 bucks that is a mouthful of a name so i so uh you've earned the 10 10 or i've earned

03:09:34.700 the 10 dollars by saying that gi joe dave c straight from the pit gives 10 dollars well thank you for

03:09:39.900 helping fund the channel programmer x says meet up in nepean tomorrow for two dollars i might be in nepean

03:09:46.540 i'm also might be in canada tomorrow i might be going to nepean because i might be meeting someone

03:09:51.180 else anyways first i'll figure it out um i was gonna try to meet someone else tomorrow morning

03:09:56.380 this is what sucks about showing up for campaigning because i'm not gonna like it's hard to take a day

03:10:00.460 off and say oh yeah screw you campaigns i'm just gonna go hang out with some people in a day

03:10:04.620 um maybe i'll be there brian o for five dollars says just saw cbc rosemary barton talking about

03:10:10.700 right-wing media yesterday causing their building to get sniffed for bombs and surrounded by police today

03:10:16.140 oh yeah it was rebel it was drea humphrey probably planting bombs jimmy for 279 says carney just said

03:10:23.740 that to that to join the digs on carney just said that to join the digs on carney uh i assume

03:10:31.020 that you're talking about carney and making a fool of himself just to get in on making a fool of

03:10:35.420 himself that everyone else is doing patrick just sends in two dollars and i appreciate you patrick for

03:10:40.220 doing that andre georgie george uh says for ten dollars you're doing great job keep it up why uh

03:10:48.780 keep it up what are theatrical chant what are theoretical chances for polyev to win i would say

03:10:54.860 if the polls move like i expect they will because of that debate which i'm not saying it's going to be

03:11:00.300 like 10 swing if i assume that abacus data is right with the liberals leading by two points right now

03:11:06.540 although even in their own polls when they ask people are you confident in voting for your

03:11:10.540 choice the conservatives are in fact leading by one let's assume that the plus two is realistic

03:11:15.660 even then i can i would actually probably assume it's a tie right now well let's assume the plus

03:11:19.580 two from abacus is realistic i would say that the conservatives will probably gain a couple points

03:11:25.420 or even just one point or one and a half points the main thing that's going to happen in my opinion

03:11:30.780 is that carney and the liberals are going to go from if we assume they're at 42 or 40

03:11:36.220 they'll drop down to 36 and the conservatives might grab up one point of that but the ndp will

03:11:40.780 grab two and the block will grab one i think that's what's going to happen here

03:11:45.660 freezer man 71 for five dollars says great content why could the ndp disappear like dan mcteague has

03:11:51.260 suggested i live in bc and voted for the bc conservatives bc is in trouble um i assume you

03:11:57.340 mean the provincial bc conservatives oh my goodness the provincial bc conservatives are such a trash fire

03:12:02.140 right now they're letting all the woke united people run them and the the three independents

03:12:07.100 tamera um sorry dallas brody jordan keely and tara armstrong are doing a fantastic job honestly i hope

03:12:15.580 more join them because john rustett is absolutely wasting his caucus uh but would the ndp disappear

03:12:21.340 like dan mcteague is saying and by the way when i ran for calgary signal hills conservative nomination

03:12:25.980 one of my endorsers was dan mcteague he's a great guy and we are both uh united on backing

03:12:32.140 up kevin vlong as one of the best independent mps who unfortunately is not going to be in parliament

03:12:37.260 after this uh when parliament resumes again i don't think the ndp is going to get wiped out because they

03:12:43.820 are dumping money to protect incumbents and what's going to happen i think is that in a lot of ridings

03:12:49.420 where the ndp aren't trying they're only going to get six percent or four percent or seven percent um

03:12:55.180 in the writings where they have incumbents i think there's a good chance that they hold on

03:12:59.500 five dollars from donna m uh love white and daniel forever always entertaining informative also yes

03:13:04.700 please do tnt merch uh hopefully i'll have daniel boardman back at some point to do another stream he

03:13:10.380 in fact is actually in british columbia right now so i knew he didn't have any of his commitment to do

03:13:15.420 a stream but i'll definitely try and do something with him soon bob seaman says for 279 why does

03:13:22.060 polymarket suggest that carney won i i don't think they suggest he won it's just been that the trend

03:13:27.340 has been that carney's been up in polymarket you're going to see that probably drop heavily in the next

03:13:32.140 24 hours the problem with polymarket in canada is unlike the us there's a lot of information about

03:13:37.980 politics that you can get in the us to know where the the campaigns are at if they're making mistakes

03:13:42.300 where they're investing their money which state they're focusing on how they're doing in those

03:13:45.660 individual states canada there's not as much information for people to go on so i found

03:13:50.860 that a lot of people place their money on polymarket just based on what the polls are saying and that's

03:13:55.020 it and i would say that most of the polls are heavily over emphasizing the liberals chances

03:14:00.300 gi joe dfc straight from the pit for six dollars says i vote conservative or vote conservative

03:14:06.060 i like 1980s nes also my fave game is contra and predator great channel

03:14:10.380 i actually i don't even think i have because if you guys don't know what he's talking about or

03:14:14.940 you're only watching this me for the first time whenever i'm in my home studio i always have a

03:14:19.580 old nintendo entertainment system cartridge on my left and i actually don't think i have contra

03:14:26.220 i have super c super c is a great game do you know what's a fantastic game though and it's really

03:14:31.820 hard to find and it's expensive is i really want gun knack gun knack is a fantastic game it holds up

03:14:38.380 it's not like good for the time gun knack's just straight up good now so i'd love to find gun knack

03:14:45.740 um i have played emulators of it of course but i just don't have an actual cartridge

03:14:50.140 noah cormier says i was working and missed the debate could you rank everyone with letter grades

03:14:54.940 letter grades polyvets an a plus i know i'm a conservative and it doesn't come this seem like

03:15:00.380 it's coming much from me to say an a plus but in the french debate i gave him a b b minus

03:15:04.780 because in fact i think he held back for this debate polyvets an a plus because he absolutely

03:15:10.700 demolished carney seemed positive and i think that he makes a lot of people who were nervous about him

03:15:15.100 before come back to the conservative party like they were previously intending to do back in uh

03:15:21.900 back in november by the way we have exactly seven hundred and seven 1776 viewers right now so

03:15:27.900 happy birthday america even though it's not july 4th

03:15:34.140 oh sorry uh i i don't want to cut off this question so

03:15:38.460 polyvets a plus i would give blanchet a b plus carney gets a d minus d plus maybe

03:15:46.140 and or maybe yeah and then sing gets an f sing was terrible

03:15:50.060 um brian campos he says pronounced camp house brian campos for 6.99 thank you for donating just to

03:15:59.980 correct me on uh how i said your name uh dutch doesn't make sense not impressed with pure police

03:16:05.900 foreign policy what does helping ukraine even mean it's a deep-rooted problem well i think it is

03:16:11.340 generally good for west hostile foreign countries to not end up gaining more power through territorial

03:16:17.660 uh acquisitions and that is absolutely what russia is trying to do with ukraine take over regions with

03:16:24.060 a lot of resources in them which will enable them to do more in the future including trying to take

03:16:29.020 over or uh exhort power over uh oil and gas um resources around the arctic they absolutely would

03:16:36.300 do that if they could get away with invading ukraine and not have anyone really push back on them after

03:16:41.260 a few years because i know people have been pushing back on them hard but still if then the us

03:16:46.700 pulls out and everyone pulls out support and russia gets what they want i don't think putin's gonna do

03:16:51.100 anything more because he's probably not gonna do anything until for the rest of his life but the

03:16:56.380 next russian leader says well putin got away with that let's just be better prepared this time and we

03:17:00.620 can do more and that always happens with russia russia always pushes the envelope just like china

03:17:05.500 just like a lot of hostile foreign countries iran qatar they end up pushing the envelope if you don't

03:17:11.260 push back on them hard that doesn't mean that needs to be a forever war i think there needs to

03:17:16.060 be an off-ramp right now but the thing is you actually don't get to a proper off-ramp for peace

03:17:20.860 if you end up being weak because then the russians know that they can keep pushing where there's mush

03:17:25.100 exactly what stalin's philosophy for war is you push wherever there's softness and then you have

03:17:29.740 to stop when they're when they toughen up subin george sajian for five bucks says where is mr singh getting

03:17:37.020 the data the poly of built only six homes moh is it from ndp sources it's that poly of when

03:17:43.500 he was briefly the minister of housing only built six government affordable homes from the federal

03:17:48.620 level it's a stupid point because who cares if the government built homes or not if homes were

03:17:54.700 affordable they were affordable and the private market was uh was providing them if they're not

03:17:59.260 affordable who cares that the government is building a bunch of stuff that's just what he thinks

03:18:03.900 anthony salerno says trans women are men support women's rights by the way you guys should all go

03:18:09.820 look up on online tara armstrong's fantastic question the bc legislature where she just asked

03:18:15.980 david eby the premier of british columbia what's a woman what is a woman and his attorney general

03:18:23.420 had to stand up and basically say we stand by queer folks and all this nonsense it's like guys

03:18:28.620 she just answered the question it's not hard we have verse eric here for 20 saying sorry just tuned

03:18:37.500 in but have you seen stuart benson's effeminate meltdown over rebel news being in the media room

03:18:42.220 with him smells like the excuse the debate commission will fall on for counseling the questions absolutely

03:18:47.100 i think that is what they were doing there uh maybe i'll cut over to the footage later but we're already on

03:18:52.220 three hours and 20 minutes into this thing but yeah that's probably why they uh the excuse to

03:18:57.900 cancel the debate uh q a verway drafting inc says love your content and coverage keep up the good work

03:19:05.340 ps i'd vote for you well thank you hopefully you're in one of the ridings i run in someday and thank you

03:19:11.020 for the six dollar donation jerry jason for 699 says love what you're doing keep it up man elevator

03:19:17.100 mechanics for pierre heck yeah is that a big constituent elevator mechanics chris c says nothing

03:19:23.820 for 279 but i appreciate it all the same five bucks from laurie soper says uh national telegraph

03:19:32.140 is the most enlightening analysis on canadian politics at least for me thank you white for

03:19:36.140 your consistency and dedication i don't even think i exactly say anything that should blow your mind but

03:19:41.580 if i'm to give myself a compliment and usually you shouldn't do that i would at least say i'm good at

03:19:45.740 um not simplifying but just generating good ways of putting things that you can use on your own

03:19:53.340 friends and family and whatnot that maybe the way i i phrase something helps you talk to somebody about

03:19:59.260 politics uh rather than being hyper populist rhetoric where if you tried to use it on someone they'd be

03:20:03.980 like whoa whoa settle down man i talk very normally about politics both on the show and in real life

03:20:09.900 you know use a little humor here and there but generally keep it nice and easy for

03:20:13.580 even the most moderate person to follow although i don't take moderate positions i take very

03:20:18.220 conservative positions but i can i can market them using center left language

03:20:24.940 and chris c says for 6.99 rosemary barton on cbc said scrum was cancelled because dangerous white

03:20:30.940 right-wing journalists is relevant is a terrorist according to cbc thoughts um she's an absolute clown

03:20:37.820 her boy got wiped out on the debate stage and she and the media are trying to pretend like it's

03:20:44.540 actually they're trying to pretend that there is a good excuse to not have a q a because they didn't

03:20:49.340 want the bleeding to continue but yeah um randy friedrich friedrich says for 6.99 i have really

03:20:57.500 appreciated your analysis on the polls good work well thank you every once in a while people someone says

03:21:02.220 like why how could you be correct on the polls when this new one came out that has the liberals

03:21:07.100 leading by 12 from ecos or or angus reed it's like this is not a very good poll there is sampling errors

03:21:14.220 they are they're obviously probably taking way too many people from urban areas i think frank

03:21:19.260 graves at ecos is just making things up angus reed i think they just have a bad sample i've heard that

03:21:24.380 they use uh air miles data to get their sample sizes which means that there's obviously kind of

03:21:32.540 a bias towards people who work white collar jobs if you're taking people who have air miles cards

03:21:37.740 because those people are naturally going to fly more and the people who fly the most ironically the

03:21:43.420 people who vote liberal and apparently care about climate change the most are obviously going to

03:21:47.340 you know be more liberal people who fly more tend to be more liberal which means that getting air miles

03:21:53.740 data means your poll is always going to skew a little too liberal pollsters and good pollsters

03:21:58.300 do try and do this pollsters need to do urban and rural balancing and ideally they should do some

03:22:03.500 postal code balancing or something like that like so if you're pulling saskatchewan make sure that

03:22:10.700 you're pulling people outside of virginia and saskatoon that's how the saskatchewan 2024 provincial

03:22:16.060 election was so badly missed by the pollsters some of them were off by 17 points of the popular vote

03:22:21.660 and it's because when you pull a bunch of people in saskatoon and regina especially public sector

03:22:25.580 workers you're getting a very ndp sample yeah um but yes

03:22:40.140 and there were some people also early on trying to spam the chat with like pro um carney stuff i think

03:22:46.620 that person eventually dropped out i think it was like jaron or something like that after uh the

03:22:51.660 uh after the um uh carney started absolutely getting destroyed oh here's actually a great point

03:22:57.180 by iron guy 16 14 ecos has the rate tightening by like eight percent tonight liberals down almost six

03:23:04.300 and that's the funny thing that is a um that is a big tell do i think that the liberals are still

03:23:10.060 leading by eight percent no but the fact that even ecos has them falling shows that even with their

03:23:16.300 screwed up sample the momentum is shifting heavily in the conservatives favor

03:23:24.700 well thank you i like that compliment d man says why its channel is for white collar and blue collar

03:23:29.180 people yes i think that's a good description it's a channel for everybody

03:23:35.020 combber a comb over uh chris says wise channel is also for unemployed people like myself

03:23:39.900 uh pastor says for 16.99 comment for the progressive algorithm i watched the uh the

03:23:48.460 french and english debates on radio canada cbc one new thing i considered is radio canada

03:23:53.580 should be kept and be cbc axed also block quebecois would be my second choice yeah in in parts of

03:24:00.780 quebec i'd obviously vote block just to block the liberals even though they actually technically are

03:24:07.100 to the left of the liberals outside of immigration and cultural issues that's the funny thing quebec

03:24:13.820 politicians are very hard left progressive on certain things but then on immigration they want no immigrants

03:24:18.860 maybe we should jump oh should we jump over to it maybe we should let's maybe

03:24:40.700 we can jump over to the key and bexty thing when he had that uh run in with the hill times reporter

03:24:46.220 and then maybe after this we'll end up ending it because i need to film or sleep so i can film

03:24:51.340 a uh video tomorrow breaking down the debate and things get homoerotic slash because

03:24:59.260 plausible deniability also the dudes are being kind of homophobic do you have friends that

03:25:06.060 you get pretty homophobic at times yeah most of my gay friends most of your gay friends do you know

03:25:12.700 how much you know how fast uh what was it uh yeah yeah that's run through my gay friends like wildfire

03:25:27.180 they faggotization they love it they love faggotization they think it's the funniest word

03:25:32.300 they've heard in a while so ryan turned in this voice doesn't actually so ryan turned no i'm not i'm

03:25:37.980 curious what do you just think that politicians should be off the hook for saying stuff like this

03:25:44.940 what 15 years ago how long ago he was 30. yeah okay sorry who are you he wasn't a politician so he was

03:25:50.860 this is what he was he was a 30 year old man okay who called gay men perverse yeah i think i'm i've

03:25:57.660 read through your story and i know you don't even believe that that's what he said oh i 100 because

03:26:02.780 i read it i read it that that's what he said and you're okay so i mean you don't have any sort of

03:26:09.740 morals or scruples okay just throw it wherever you want but i read it and i know you're actually smarter

03:26:15.100 than you pretend to be so i know you know what he's so he typed the words on facebook perverse

03:26:19.740 faggotization referring to gay men no just just calm down for a second no i know but i want you to be

03:26:25.260 honest i would love to contact this guy every time there is a stupid smear story against conservatives

03:26:30.380 because i'd love him to try and apply his standards to the conservative that well that's not what really

03:26:34.940 what he meant and the thing is you know what he's probably right that ryan turnbull just being a jerk

03:26:40.300 on facebook just trying to make jokes i find jokes okay i don't find all jokes funny but if you're

03:26:47.420 just making jokes who cares but the problem is the left doesn't actually believe that jokes are okay

03:26:53.100 they only care about jokes they only think jokes are jokes when it's the left doing it and if it's

03:26:57.980 the right it's a statement it's a statement showing the man's blackened soul you can't have that it's

03:27:03.500 disgusting it's a 6.99 uh super chat from patch dress one more thing consider gameplay uh displaying

03:27:11.420 game boy cartridges when you're on the road and keen bexty pulling a james o'keefe in this video

03:27:15.740 absolutely yeah this is reminding me a lot of the acorn tapes that would be actually a funny idea if i

03:27:20.700 had like a small display for like small game boy cartridges behind me uh but maybe that would be

03:27:26.220 you know too on the nose i'd look too much like a dork so he said perverse faggotization referring

03:27:33.740 to homosexual men and you think that that's an acceptable type of language for politicians to use

03:27:40.620 that wasn't the only thing that he said he said a lot he said a lot of extremely homophobic stuff

03:27:45.900 and just because he's a liberal you're trying to defend him if this was a conservative okay so if it

03:27:50.860 was a conservative you would call for him to be removed like oh absolutely but aaron gunn hasn't

03:27:55.100 said something like that and if you could point to them doing that please let me know the voice

03:28:00.300 doesn't work it's crazy that you're getting so emotional about this though and he's pretending

03:28:05.020 like keen's putting on like artificial vocal fry i've met kian i have talked to kian when he wasn't

03:28:10.140 doing media stuff um he taught he sounds like this all the time how many of your friends how many of

03:28:15.500 your friends dropped f slurs just frequently i have respect for the industry and the profession sure you

03:28:20.860 do your little chattering class sure you third party advertisers who are you who are you who do you

03:28:27.260 work for rebel news who do you work for rebel news owned by ezra levan is a different company

03:28:34.060 why are you screaming

03:28:35.180 why are you screaming by the way well i want to make sure the guys filming it over there get the

03:28:46.620 good audio good do you hear me okay am i enunciating properly dude this guy thinks he's cooking this man

03:28:54.940 thinks he's an extremely intelligent person i could do you want you have one set up you got the levels

03:29:00.460 ready for me because you're clearly not doing any actual journalism while you're here you're supposed

03:29:04.940 to maintain respectful discourse it's right here in black and white why thank you drea when you guys

03:29:10.860 started gaming the rules and threatening to sue because you didn't get your way i assumed the rules

03:29:15.100 were out the window no it's right here in black and white we follow the rules oh was that like when

03:29:20.380 it was in black and white saying you should only have one reporter credited so that everyone might have

03:29:25.500 a chance okay he's trying to do this thing like rebel news has gamed the system no they did not

03:29:32.540 do you know what they did the thing is that the cbc can send a reporter from every single station

03:29:37.580 the cbc calgary can send one cbc edmonton cbc winnipeg cbc alberta cbc bc cbc vancouver cbc victoria

03:29:44.380 can send somebody cbc comox could send somebody cbc whitehorse could send somebody and they all get

03:29:49.500 to be individually credited and they're all allowed to ask questions what the debate commission tried to do is

03:29:54.300 that rebel news only gets one one reporter who gets the chance to potentially ask a question

03:30:00.220 juno only gets one reporter to potentially be able to ask a question but rebel says well if they're

03:30:05.660 allowed to send regional journalists why can't drea come from bc why can't sheila gun reed come from

03:30:10.300 alberta why can't david menzies come from ontario why can't ezra come as somebody who's can can he uh

03:30:16.140 canada wide and foreign reporter is that okay and they they they sued and they won that case

03:30:22.140 and the debate commission pulled out of that case because they knew that that was right

03:30:26.620 that everyone gets to send multiple reporters if you're allowed to send regional reports rebel would

03:30:30.620 probably be fine with only having one person who's allowed to ask questions if every other station was

03:30:34.780 only allowed to do that if cbc just had one ctv city global global mail the herald you know if they

03:30:41.580 allowed if they did that way it'd be fine to ask a question but instead you wanted to take what was it

03:30:47.660 two minute long questions so that pauliev only got asked three questions he usually allows four

03:30:53.820 because things move a little bit quicker at his press conferences you guys are so verbose i'll say

03:30:59.980 um most of us didn't get a question and what i really don't enjoy is that everyone else here was uh

03:31:08.940 being respectful following the rules just being considerate to everyone else and what you guys decided

03:31:16.220 to do was to take advantage threaten to sue so that you could try to get more than everyone else

03:31:24.060 and now nobody likes you i read yeah after you guys threatened to sue so that you could that's why

03:31:35.340 they got the four questions because the commission when did the cbc get uh four questions yes after they

03:31:44.540 had already folded to you because you so he just admits he's wrong oh my goodness what a peach what

03:31:51.820 a star uh ironworks mtg says for two dollars would you rather super strength or speed i would take

03:31:58.620 super strength because i can just get a car and a car can get me around faster but i can't i don't have

03:32:04.700 any like you know a forklift is harder to come by to use i'd rather have the strength zamir uh morali

03:32:12.700 says for 13.99 microwave your salad i don't know what that means is that a reference to something

03:32:19.260 i'm not getting microwave my salad

03:32:28.940 and yellow head homestead says for two dollars what's your favorite moment from the debate

03:32:33.100 i think the best moment was pauliev's question to mark carney uh it was it was really funny when

03:32:41.420 mark carney got dunked on with his own question on foreign on the uh on the security clearance

03:32:48.060 pauliev was still better because that was when carney went full sourpuss he's just sitting there like

03:32:54.460 like looking down looking at his notes not looking at pauliev at all that was the funniest part

03:32:59.660 because it was just so clear because before he's kind of holding it together he would just

03:33:03.020 contempt on his face for even having to be asked anything

03:33:08.220 yes i'm mystified by their microwave salad comment is he still around to explain the microwave salad

03:33:13.820 comment because i'm i'm confused yeah peeper gene says he sounds drunk also sounds like he's on the

03:33:20.700 verge of tears at times unhinged a bit absolutely because he thinks he's better than these people and

03:33:25.740 he can't believe that rebel news and true north wire service and juno news and all these other

03:33:32.380 western standard gets to show up they're disgusted by it thoroughly that independent media actually got

03:33:37.980 to show up yeah but that guy was i don't know what his name is but he's from the hill times in fact

03:33:45.980 actually the the um the hotel i'm at is near the hill times i should go visit them tomorrow that'd be

03:33:53.420 funny that'd be really really funny yeah that guy had that guy's mustache is the cheesiest mustache

03:34:02.620 i've ever seen on the on the planet i promise you guys i will not grow a mustache on this channel

03:34:09.420 unless i do in which this is me just joking in case i do it one day but i will not grow a mustache

03:34:15.900 because never never be the baby face guy with a giant caterpillar mustache it's so cheesy

03:34:21.180 it is parmesan cheese it is cheddar cheese just melted over uh like old wwe wrestling tapes from

03:34:30.620 the 80s that is how cheesy it is anyways so that should be it for today guys it is now three and a

03:34:37.740 half hours into the stream thank you for hanging out watching the debate with me hopefully you didn't

03:34:43.180 mind my pontificating during it but yeah that was a lot of fun um ian akut says what about a playoff

03:34:52.700 beard no because if i start trying to grow a beard and a mustache and it sometimes happens a little

03:34:57.020 bit if i haven't shaved when i'm traveling for a few days i start to look like shaggy from scooby-doo

03:35:02.780 uh zamir morali says microwave your salad was suggested by chat gpt i just wanted to donate to your great

03:35:09.420 channel well don't listen to chat gpt the ais are trying to kill you uh but yeah so that should be

03:35:15.340 it for me today other than colin vendell uh vendelden says for 20 liberals seem to be gaining support

03:35:22.300 either in arena uh either in areas where they have a stronghold or places they didn't have a chance

03:35:27.660 like my writing of elmwood transcono went from five to fifteen percent neither was more seats for

03:35:32.860 the liberals absolutely that that's been the point i've been trying to make in a succinct way over the

03:35:37.500 past couple of days which you have put quite succinctly liberal gains and this is why the

03:35:42.300 conservatives could potentially win a minority government with with losing the popular vote

03:35:47.580 because so much of the liberal gains are in areas where they don't need it it's in areas that again

03:35:51.900 like in montreal they were already going to win it anyways in like you know university rosedale they're

03:35:56.140 already going to win it anyways or they're gaining a bunch of votes in saskatchewan or in rural alberta

03:36:01.900 and they might pick up seats in places like out in calgary but that's offset by all the conservative

03:36:06.460 gains in working class neighborhoods ten dollars from king of common law says i am just an old

03:36:11.740 biker boomer respect young man i watch you regularly well thank you for watching me regularly i enjoy

03:36:18.620 the regulars always making sure the video gets to like several thousand views before an hour because

03:36:23.660 people are waiting on pins and needles apparently to hear me ramble about stuff cgr902 says why exe has

03:36:31.260 experienced an error and will now shut down yes i must now go rest from all my brambling although i

03:36:38.460 will still probably ramble at whoever is available in real life anyway so that should be it for me

03:36:43.420 today guys make sure to like the video subscribe the channel leave a comment do all that great stuff

03:36:47.420 you know the normal thing i usually say at the end of videos and i'll see you guys tomorrow with my

03:36:52.940 official debate recap

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