The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Watching Pierre Poilievre byelection candidate forum!

00:00:00.560 Hey guys, I am here to watch the Pierpaglia Battle River Crowfoot by-election candidates

00:00:07.400 forum.

00:00:08.280 This thing isn't going to matter all that much, but you know, it was a good excuse to

00:00:12.120 have a live stream, watch something collectively, talk about what's going on in politics in

00:00:17.820 this fairly boring summer.

00:00:20.240 I guess really all summers in politics, at least in Canada, are super boring because

00:00:24.200 there's no sessions taking place in any of the provinces or on the federal level, despite

00:00:28.920 the fact that we're in a crisis, we're supposedly right now in a crisis, but, you know, Mark

00:00:34.840 Carney can just tour around Canada having coffee with the new premier of Prince Edward Island

00:00:39.540 and, you know, apparently he's doing enough to justify his, you know, his position as

00:00:44.080 prime minister.

00:00:45.500 You know, we have a trade crisis, but I guess that can be solved some other time after August

00:00:50.460 1st, before August 1st, who gives a crap?

00:00:53.060 Yeah.

00:00:53.220 Hud says, Carney is failing.

00:00:58.220 Will we get an election soon?

00:01:00.420 I don't think the conservatives want an election soon.

00:01:02.940 I don't think the liberals want one either.

00:01:05.740 And I wouldn't say that Carney is failing right now on a public level.

00:01:10.060 It's more so, yeah, he's not really, I wouldn't say Carney is exactly failing right now.

00:01:15.460 He's just doing a lot of things that I know, or at least we all know, will probably end in

00:01:21.120 policy failure or bad slash mediocre outcomes.

00:01:25.460 So it's not like, it's not like the man has to be literally just like dying in the polls

00:01:31.080 right now to be failing, but he's setting himself up for a lot of hard falls in the future.

00:01:37.720 Yeah, I think Miriam Rachel here has a good take.

00:01:43.220 Not too, too many sleepy Canadians right now who will vote liberal.

00:01:47.160 And that's generally what happens after a party gets elected.

00:01:50.800 A lot of people are basically, like I've said in videos, willing to say, you know, let the

00:01:56.440 boy have a chance.

00:01:57.640 Let him figure it out.

00:01:58.700 Let's see who he's going to do or how he's going to perform.

00:02:03.060 OZ says, what time is the debate?

00:02:05.660 It's at 7 p.m.

00:02:06.860 Mountain Time.

00:02:07.600 And of course, it's currently 6.34 Mountain Time.

00:02:09.980 I just want to go live a little bit beforehand or else, you know, it's a little bit difficult

00:02:14.880 for people to catch up or be here on time.

00:02:18.180 If I start like right when it's happening, this way people can kind of size up whether

00:02:22.380 they want to stay for the whole thing or not.

00:02:29.400 Horse Lake Ranch is out here bawling in Saskatchewan.

00:02:32.220 Keep up the good work.

00:02:33.140 Well, thank you, Horse Lake Ranch.

00:02:34.640 Is there actually just a place called Horse Lake in Saskatchewan?

00:02:40.680 It just feels like it was a very, very lazy name.

00:02:43.260 It's like, well, we have horses and there's a lake, so it's Horse Lake.

00:02:52.880 Hud says, what are we going to do if they go ahead with censorship laws?

00:02:57.220 Well, I don't think there's anything exactly you have to do.

00:02:59.740 It's a bad law, and it's going to be bad if they implement it on anybody.

00:03:03.920 But my thing is that for any of that stuff to get done, it's going to take years of committee

00:03:09.920 meetings and hearings and whatnot.

00:03:12.140 So the problem with the liberals trying to implement anything like a hate speech law or

00:03:16.540 something like that is, one, it will be very unpopular.

00:03:20.320 Two, if they try and enforce against anyone, try and arrest anybody, I think they're going

00:03:25.200 to become even more unpopular.

00:03:28.020 It's not like we're all going to start getting rounded up because, you know, Mark Carney doesn't

00:03:32.800 like us.

00:03:33.280 That's just, I do find some people end up doing, pushing stuff like this, like, oh my

00:03:38.460 goodness, we're all at threat if they pass this.

00:03:40.400 Is it bad if they pass that?

00:03:43.220 110%.

00:03:43.620 At the same time, things move slower than anyone thinks.

00:03:46.980 Hello, Wyatt, sending love to you from the U.S. West Coast here, pumped up to watching your

00:03:55.740 poly of it a bit.

00:03:57.300 What the heck?

00:03:58.240 Why are there people on the West Coast in the U.S. watching this, unless you moved here

00:04:01.740 from, moved away from Canada?

00:04:03.180 And someone else is saying, oh.

00:04:20.980 Weaver Games says there's also Bear Lake, apparently somewhere, I assume in Saskatchewan.

00:04:25.600 The debate stream is not up until 7 p.m.

00:04:35.420 We're just waiting for a bit here, so I'll just wait.

00:04:40.860 It's just ads or whatever.

00:04:43.960 So we'll just wait.

00:04:44.840 Okay.

00:04:55.600 Yeah, I don't really suspect that Polyev is going to have a hard time in this by-election.

00:05:01.860 If anything, it's going to be funny to see how bad someone like Bonnie Crickley is going

00:05:07.160 to do, that independent candidate the media has been propping up, because she has no reason

00:05:12.360 to be in this race at all.

00:05:14.840 Her reason is basically, oh, I don't like that Polyev's an outsider.

00:05:19.300 Okay, well, there's a bunch of people from your riding also running, so why didn't you

00:05:22.820 stay out of the race and run with one of them and vote for one of them?

00:05:26.860 It's basically, I wonder if somebody in the Liberal Party convinced her, just throw your

00:05:31.320 name for it as an independent.

00:05:32.820 We'll print up like 50 signs.

00:05:34.440 We'll put them on some people's lawns, and then we'll just basically get you to do a

00:05:37.960 media tour talking about how you don't like Pierre Polyev, and he and Danielle Smith are

00:05:42.700 traitors, and they don't understand this riding, even though Bonnie Crickley is obviously

00:05:48.020 left-wing.

00:05:48.580 She's just obviously very liberal with her views, and so she's living in a riding where

00:05:53.840 I don't doubt she likes her riding and likes the people in the riding, but being in the

00:06:00.280 riding doesn't make you a good representative.

00:06:03.440 I find people overemphasize how much you want a local guy representing you.

00:06:08.500 Okay, well, I'm just a local guy who sucks, and the guy from outside is good.

00:06:11.460 Well, I think most people will say, well, obviously, I want the guy who's good.

00:06:14.320 But, yeah, that's why having a candidate from your riding or not from your riding is more

00:06:19.220 of the cherry on top, whether or not clarifying how much they suck, like, hey, they're a bad

00:06:24.120 candidate on all five of these fronts, and they don't even live here.

00:06:27.380 That's more of like the cherry on top of a bad candidate, and the cherry on top of a good

00:06:31.200 candidate is, by the way, they're also from here.

00:06:33.300 Fantastic.

00:06:34.260 And, like, it's mostly going to happen more often than not.

00:06:36.840 Someone is going to be from the area.

00:06:40.240 Um...

00:06:44.320 Owen1504 says, now that the ballot is a single form, no one will know who to write since the

00:06:50.500 candidate names weren't on the sheets.

00:06:52.280 Well, there will probably be some way of being able to see all the candidate names before you

00:06:57.520 walk into the voting booth, and you can probably take some amount of resources into the voting

00:07:02.360 booth in order to remember how to spell it.

00:07:05.360 At the same time, I think this is a good enough fix by Elections Canada to block the longest

00:07:10.420 ballot committee.

00:07:11.100 It's going to prevent these guys from doing it again, because it really took a lot of

00:07:14.800 the air out of their tires by preventing them from making the ballot two meters long.

00:07:20.740 $10 super chat from MasonGuy.

00:07:22.660 Thank you for that.

00:07:23.720 About to commute home to west of the GTA, so looking forward to the stream.

00:07:27.300 Glad to be tuning in to the best Canadian news post on the platform.

00:07:31.980 Well, thank you.

00:07:34.620 Hopefully I'm considered a little bit up there.

00:07:37.580 I've finally gotten good lighting, as I mentioned on another video.

00:07:40.660 Before, I had this terrible, and I can see it right there in front of me.

00:07:44.680 I have this terrible two-headed lamp.

00:07:47.460 It's like for photography, when you need light directed on one specific side of an object.

00:07:54.580 And when you're filming stuff, naturally you want to be surrounded by light.

00:07:58.100 And so I now have light boxes that I can just generally point at me, and it kind of fills

00:08:03.720 the entire screen up with light.

00:08:05.440 But before, I was having to balance other lights on lamps, and then I'd have this big directed

00:08:11.020 light from one direction.

00:08:12.140 I'd have to fill in the gaps.

00:08:13.620 It was like, if anyone of you want to start a podcast, don't start the way I did.

00:08:18.420 Buy good equipment first.

00:08:19.700 Just don't limp along for, like, two years with the worst possible setup.

00:08:28.420 Jcode X says, Pierre all the way, but I have a terrible feeling a liberal is going to win

00:08:32.560 it.

00:08:33.500 There's literally no chance.

00:08:35.060 This is a by-election where Damien Couric, the conservative before Pierre Paulyov, the guy

00:08:40.120 who stepped down for him, he won the riding with 86% of the vote.

00:08:44.240 You really can't lose a riding like this.

00:08:47.980 And the amount of people who have already voted in the by-election, which is like 3,600 people,

00:08:53.220 says to me that the conservatives are just getting people to go in and vote early, because

00:08:57.540 which other party has the infrastructure on the ground to be getting their votes in early?

00:09:02.520 Like, if Paulyov lost this thing, yeah, he's not going to be leader, you know what I mean?

00:09:07.360 But that's just not going to happen either.

00:09:09.600 It's just a conservative riding.

00:09:12.020 They vote conservative.

00:09:12.820 Carlton, even though I thought he was going to win, I thought that was going to be a slam

00:09:17.460 dunk.

00:09:18.180 In hindsight, when you do look at the riding results from previous elections, the problem

00:09:23.640 with Carlton for somebody like Paulyov is that he always won that riding with like a

00:09:30.000 10% margin of victory, which isn't that much for an incumbent.

00:09:33.900 And it wasn't because people hate him.

00:09:35.080 It's just a riding full of government employees.

00:09:37.500 And so he had to work really hard to keep his 10% margin of victory as an incumbent.

00:09:42.820 And Weaver Games says, NES Wrestlemania today, I think.

00:09:47.600 Yes, the game behind me is Wrestlemania, which fittingly has Hulk Hogan on the cover.

00:09:52.720 I'm really doing a lot of, I keep having to shop for more NES games to keep this gimmick

00:09:57.700 up of always having a new game in the background.

00:09:59.460 A few videos, I didn't have a game, so I had to like put a book back there, but I just hadn't

00:10:04.520 been able to get out to a store in a while to buy something new.

00:10:07.260 But I think I've only repeated the game like once when I needed to fill in a gap quickly.

00:10:13.020 But Faxler says, hey Wyatt from Provost here.

00:10:16.140 Here is visiting my town tomorrow.

00:10:17.640 Can't wait to fill the town hall.

00:10:19.340 Well, fantastic.

00:10:19.960 John Thompson says, Elections Canada is permitting these 202 bogus longest ballot candidates to

00:10:26.560 run, and people can just write down the name of their chosen candidate on the ballot.

00:10:30.340 Yes, so basically it's now a pure write-in ballot, which probably isn't going to hurt

00:10:35.300 anything.

00:10:36.020 You know, if you know, if you want to vote for a guy, you should probably be able to spell

00:10:39.480 the name.

00:10:40.360 Although I do feel bad if you're a Polish candidate who has a really complex last name.

00:10:44.380 But for the most part, everyone who's most likely to get votes in this race are not going

00:10:49.060 to have a hard time having people fill in their names.

00:10:51.860 But this is going to guarantee that pretty much none of the longest ballot committee candidates

00:10:56.180 are going to get a single vote because none of them are telling people to go write down

00:11:00.860 their names.

00:11:01.400 And it's not like with the long ballot where someone might just give up trying to find

00:11:05.220 the guy they want and they just put an X or someone just votes out of habit and they

00:11:08.840 don't care who and they just walk in there and put an X.

00:11:11.140 You probably get like a handful of people who do that in every writing.

00:11:14.380 They're just like, well, my dad always told me to vote.

00:11:16.700 And then they go in there and they submit an X and walk out.

00:11:20.760 But yeah, this is, they probably should still pass legislation in the future banning people

00:11:27.440 from being the official agent for multiple candidates in the same writing.

00:11:31.680 It's obviously illegitimate.

00:11:35.340 Marco Perusa, 1399 Super Chat.

00:11:37.720 Thank you for that.

00:11:38.840 Have you seen the latest Nanos poll?

00:11:40.640 Why is part of the question Nanos report on is the coronavirus?

00:11:44.740 Please look at the last poll posted a couple of days ago.

00:11:47.540 Much love.

00:11:48.660 I will look into that one.

00:11:50.580 I've been ignoring Nanos a little bit because their margins kind of look a bit iffy to me.

00:11:56.180 Just when it's post-election, 41% of people just voted conservative.

00:12:01.320 Yeah, if the liberals won, they're going to get a polling boost because they're the winners

00:12:06.200 and people tend to like to pick the winner in the poll.

00:12:09.580 You know, it doesn't mean anything right now.

00:12:11.240 So a lot of people are, and also conservatives are probably not picking up the phone as much

00:12:15.140 these days.

00:12:15.640 So you get disproportionately more liberals.

00:12:18.020 Not like a 15% lead over the conservatives' disproportionate liberal vote.

00:12:23.900 Nanos is having the liberals leading the conservatives by 14, 15%.

00:12:27.860 The other pollsters have the liberals leading, as they should.

00:12:31.740 The liberals absolutely are leading now.

00:12:34.260 But Innovative Research, Abacus, my two favorites, they're way closer.

00:12:39.620 And Carney's doing well in Innovative.

00:12:41.160 But he's not doing, you know, plus 10 well.

00:12:44.640 He's doing like plus 6 well.

00:12:47.000 And even that one actually kind of spells a little bit of trouble for him because he's

00:12:50.080 almost perfectly bridging the gap between left voters who left the NDP and right voters

00:12:56.480 who left the conservatives, usually older, more conservative voters who voted for Carney

00:13:01.200 to like fight back against Trump.

00:13:03.220 And the thing is, I don't see Carney in two years being able to hold on to the former NDP

00:13:08.680 progressives, as well as the former conservative voting retired voters.

00:13:13.100 That's just not how that works.

00:13:26.080 Vented says, Wyatt, are you feeling confident or worried about your dinner bet?

00:13:30.180 He means me getting to 100,000 subscribers by the end of the year.

00:13:33.800 I'm like ambivalent to it at this point.

00:13:36.660 I think I could get up.

00:13:40.500 I could probably get up to 100,000.

00:13:43.360 I think this just depends on the news cycle.

00:13:45.380 Yeah, the last couple of months for new subscribers have been really slow, but it's post-federal election.

00:13:51.140 The summer, the algorithm has a bit of a soft reset.

00:13:54.080 So my content gets buried for a while.

00:13:57.300 And so, yeah, you got to kind of...

00:13:59.200 So I wouldn't say that because I haven't been hitting the goal numbers I'd usually want in the last couple of months.

00:14:04.660 It doesn't mean I'm not going to get there.

00:14:06.200 Because in April alone, I think we gained like 17,000 subscribers.

00:14:10.320 So if I had a month like that, obviously I'm now just like single digits away.

00:14:16.380 Yeah.

00:14:17.060 Knights of Philemia says, I hope they reinstate the fee for putting a name on a ballot.

00:14:22.500 Especially because you would get reimbursed if you don't have $1,000 that will be given back to you after the 30 days.

00:14:32.420 If you don't have $1,000 to run, don't run.

00:14:37.540 We're not talking about $1,000 in like 1945 and it's just a lot of money.

00:14:43.960 It's $1,000.

00:14:46.340 People make that in like a week.

00:14:49.560 Yeah, it's quite a bit of money to put up.

00:14:51.240 Maybe some people are living paycheck to paycheck and that's too unreasonable.

00:14:54.900 If you're living paycheck to paycheck, you're probably not running an electoral politics.

00:14:58.580 And by the way, do you not have 10 friends you can borrow $100 from?

00:15:02.680 Or whatever?

00:15:03.400 But yeah.

00:15:11.400 Northern Berserker says, is Wyatt a millennial or Gen Zed?

00:15:14.380 I am decisively Gen Zed.

00:15:16.420 I'm just 26.

00:15:17.260 I think the millennial cutoff is that I'd have to be like 30 or something like right now to be a millennial.

00:15:29.160 Mike Perdue, you're wrong.

00:15:30.660 I'm not a millennial.

00:15:31.300 Get out of here.

00:15:32.700 People both think I'm much older and think I'm much younger at the exact same time.

00:15:36.380 It's very strange.

00:15:37.100 But for any of you who are tuning in now, we are going to be watching the Candidate Forum in Battle River Crowfoot with Pierre Polyev.

00:15:45.240 I believe Pierre Polyev is going to be there.

00:15:47.780 And we're going to be watching it.

00:15:49.820 But it's not until 7 o'clock Mountain Time right now.

00:15:53.100 It's 6.48.

00:15:53.660 So we've got 12 more minutes until we're watching it.

00:15:58.960 Jim Jones says, Nanos is liberal.

00:16:01.500 And I would say that might be true.

00:16:03.940 I know that the guy who runs Abacus Data is a soft liberal, like a center-left guy.

00:16:09.660 David Coletto is center-left.

00:16:11.320 He's good at polling.

00:16:13.360 You know, Janet Brown in Alberta.

00:16:15.620 She does Alberta and Saskatchewan provincial polling.

00:16:18.300 She is very liberal, I believe.

00:16:21.280 I've had her speak in master's courses I've been in.

00:16:25.540 She's very smart.

00:16:26.860 She both actually spoke at a bachelor degree class I was in and then a master degree class too.

00:16:34.900 Very intelligent.

00:16:36.580 Liberal.

00:16:37.300 But she's extremely good at polling.

00:16:39.440 And if I'm ever to bet on a poll, I would bet on a Janet Brown poll.

00:16:43.100 She got the 2023 Alberta election results within literally, like, decimal points.

00:16:50.580 She was that good.

00:16:52.420 And, like, other pollsters that people, like, will cite got more, like, four or five points off of what the NDP got.

00:16:59.860 And they were three points off of what the UCP got.

00:17:02.120 Like, their polling had, like, no relation to the actual results.

00:17:05.520 Ronny BBY says, got to see the NDP leadership rules.

00:17:16.360 You think the party will sink, will still be in the sinks?

00:17:20.060 If so, how do you think it will affect the upcoming election?

00:17:23.520 I think the NDP's fortunes are purely in the hands of Mark Carney's liberals.

00:17:28.840 If they fail, a lot of people will go back MVP.

00:17:31.160 If they start succeeding wildly, you'll have a lot of people who will just keep voting liberal instead.

00:17:37.020 And I haven't seen the NDP leadership rules in depth.

00:17:40.680 I've seen how short the campaign is.

00:17:42.940 If anything, if I was the NDP, considering how in-depth they are, I would really drag this leadership campaign out

00:17:48.160 and just use it to try and get as many donations as humanly possible.

00:17:55.800 Um...

00:18:01.160 Jim Jones says, can't overlook the impact on mature voters with this ballot change.

00:18:08.160 There better be people to assist them or their escorts to help, uh, I assume you mean, like, help the ballot, uh, like, signing.

00:18:16.660 And, yeah, I think even with having to sign the candidate's name, it's going to be quite difficult for some people.

00:18:22.880 The good thing is, the vast majority of people are probably going to vote for pure Polyev.

00:18:27.960 And so, I think it's a name that most people have practiced writing down at least once or twice in their lives.

00:18:32.980 It's not like it's, like, it's anyone's ballgame and there's, like, 20 people, you know, vying for it.

00:18:39.220 And they all have very complex names.

00:18:40.540 I think it's going to be much easier than you think.

00:18:42.340 Vaxler says, why do you think Brampton and Mississauga shifted so much to the right this election?

00:18:54.140 Uh, South Asian voters are socially conservative voters.

00:18:57.180 That's really it.

00:18:58.040 And, by the way, the conservatives probably could have bagged the whole crowd

00:19:01.500 and won most of Mississauga and Brampton if they didn't kick out Hindu candidates.

00:19:06.720 There were, like, a lot of those ridings in Brampton and Mississauga are anywhere from 7 to, like, 20 or, like, you know, 15% Hindu.

00:19:15.820 And they just decided to, like, not let any Hindu candidate apparently run.

00:19:22.400 If you are Hindu, your chances of actually being approved in the nomination race were, like, zero.

00:19:28.680 And so, a lot of Hindu people who don't need to vote for Hindu candidates,

00:19:32.680 they don't care if the candidate they vote for is Hindu or not,

00:19:34.940 but they all got personally insulted when every single Hindu person was kicked out.

00:19:39.240 They may have not even liked that candidate,

00:19:41.100 but they found it annoying that they were just not allowed

00:19:43.940 because certain people in the party didn't want them.

00:19:49.480 Mentent says, I don't think Pierre Polyev can stop Alberta from leaving.

00:19:52.600 Eastern Canada will never give up power.

00:19:54.800 I would say that I also don't think Pierre Polyev can stop Alberta from leaving,

00:19:59.540 but that's because I don't think Alberta is actually leaving at all.

00:20:02.320 Again, Janet Brown released a poll regarding how people feel about separation in Canada right now.

00:20:10.000 I think there was a couple of provinces she did, but she did Alberta.

00:20:13.700 Alberta is, like, 34% in favor of separating.

00:20:18.200 And that's a pretty easy ask at this point.

00:20:20.540 I mean, you're not even getting these 34% of people to actually check off yes on the ballot,

00:20:25.640 say, we're going to leave if enough of us do this.

00:20:28.120 Because you're just not going to win.

00:20:31.200 The separatists, they annoy me because they don't actually hit Calgary suburbs.

00:20:39.220 They do not hit Edmonton suburbs.

00:20:41.440 They're just like, no, it's inevitable.

00:20:43.360 We're going to win.

00:20:43.960 I'm not saying that's you.

00:20:45.300 You might just be looking at the environment.

00:20:47.060 You're like, oh, we're probably going to leave.

00:20:48.560 Things are really bad.

00:20:49.500 That's totally fine and reasonable, logical perspective.

00:20:52.380 But so many people leading the independent, separatist movement, whatever way you like to describe it,

00:20:59.900 so many of these people just go to town halls.

00:21:03.060 They talk to the same set of people everywhere they go about, you know,

00:21:07.820 they talk to the same set of people everywhere they go about, like,

00:21:11.860 how much better things will be if Alberta separates and how Alberta is being screwed over by Ottawa.

00:21:16.820 Like, we know that.

00:21:17.840 Does that mean the person who's not showing up to the town hall is going to vote for it?

00:21:23.760 Is the retired couple from eastern Canada who moved to Alberta 15 years ago,

00:21:28.780 are they going to vote for separatism?

00:21:31.800 I guarantee you, if you doorknock one of the most UCP areas of Calgary,

00:21:39.240 some of the most pro-UCP polls of Calgary,

00:21:42.400 you will have most people being unwilling to vote for separatism.

00:21:48.200 It doesn't matter how hardcore UCP they are, they're not voting for it.

00:21:52.220 Yes, you can maybe win some of the rural areas,

00:21:54.260 but the fact that the Republican Party of Alberta did so badly was a bit of a sign.

00:22:01.300 Yes, Swayze says, I don't think they're actually leaving either.

00:22:05.960 Riley Elder says,

00:22:06.820 what percentage should military spending be of, like, actual military spending

00:22:10.860 and not, like, the fakie metric of, like, the 5% where it takes into account a lot of infrastructure and whatnot.

00:22:18.220 I think, like, 3% or, like, 2.5% are fine for Canada.

00:22:22.020 At the end of the day, we're not America.

00:22:24.560 We don't really need to do as much.

00:22:28.260 Vrindrsiddu says,

00:22:29.140 for $2, CPC has some cleaning up to do.

00:22:32.840 I would definitely say so.

00:22:34.220 I am absolutely still on board the idea

00:22:36.540 that the party needs to fire Jenny Byrne,

00:22:39.580 terrible strategist,

00:22:41.100 terrible executive director,

00:22:43.380 dictatorial with how she does stuff.

00:22:45.620 At the same time, she doesn't know

00:22:47.180 what she's doing, which is a terrible combo.

00:22:49.720 She's, you know,

00:22:50.720 what is, she's what,

00:22:52.700 often wrong, but never in doubt.

00:22:59.140 Uh.

00:23:09.620 Ferris Sterling says,

00:23:10.740 Alberta would be the best,

00:23:11.960 would be best becoming autonomous,

00:23:13.880 like, Quebec,

00:23:14.420 take its pensions allotments,

00:23:15.740 send tax to Ottawa rather than the other way around,

00:23:18.720 cut off equalization payments.

00:23:20.060 And that's what I could get behind, too.

00:23:21.620 And that's the thing I think is self-defeating

00:23:23.100 by the separatists and the independents, folks.

00:23:25.200 Keep pushing the provincial government

00:23:26.800 to take back more control of taxes,

00:23:31.120 of the police,

00:23:32.000 of a lot of other things.

00:23:33.680 And then you can,

00:23:35.500 then you're more able,

00:23:36.920 you know, pensions,

00:23:37.800 do all that stuff,

00:23:38.720 then try and jump for the big goal of separatism.

00:23:41.940 If you don't handle the small stuff first,

00:23:44.940 why is the general public going to trust you

00:23:47.320 that you can get this done?

00:23:48.840 Um.

00:23:54.320 Yeah,

00:23:54.980 Wheelcranker says separatism will kill the UCP.

00:23:57.600 If separatism gets within the boundaries of the party,

00:24:01.480 I'm, like,

00:24:02.180 specifically showing up to the,

00:24:03.880 to the UCP convention this November in Edmonton,

00:24:07.440 despite being out in,

00:24:08.920 um,

00:24:09.540 out in Calgary.

00:24:10.680 I'm showing up for the sole purpose,

00:24:12.660 not sole purpose,

00:24:13.720 I,

00:24:14.140 frankly,

00:24:14.440 I just like showing up because it's fun to network.

00:24:15.940 Uh,

00:24:16.760 but I am showing up to vote down any separatist type stuff.

00:24:21.620 This is,

00:24:22.120 and,

00:24:22.560 like,

00:24:22.940 an independence guy like Corey Morgan agrees.

00:24:26.360 In fact,

00:24:26.780 he's been one of the main people saying,

00:24:28.740 stop trying to turn the party separatist,

00:24:31.540 win the referendum,

00:24:32.820 and then get the party to fulfill what the referendum demands of them.

00:24:36.800 Don't turn the party separatist,

00:24:38.760 because if it turns out separatism is not popular,

00:24:41.340 well,

00:24:42.140 the movement's going to fail,

00:24:43.200 and the party's now going to fail too.

00:24:44.780 It's like trying to infect everybody with a bad idea.

00:24:56.060 Pratt Pardon says,

00:24:57.400 I think,

00:24:57.720 uh,

00:24:57.880 Jenny Byrne is in far less,

00:24:59.360 uh,

00:24:59.820 is in a far lesser role now than she was.

00:25:02.860 I keep hearing different things,

00:25:04.620 though.

00:25:06.300 Yeah.

00:25:07.080 Ferris Sterling is right by saying,

00:25:08.800 the original NES WrestleMania cartridge is a banger.

00:25:12.200 Totally.

00:25:12.540 Rams Radar Payo Time says,

00:25:17.940 Wyatt,

00:25:18.300 what are your thoughts on Canada lowering port fees for cruise ships to encourage tourism to the Atlantic provinces?

00:25:23.820 They get used as ports of call,

00:25:26.180 but not home ports.

00:25:28.100 Um,

00:25:29.660 what,

00:25:30.080 yeah,

00:25:30.160 they also lowered the,

00:25:31.240 the,

00:25:31.980 uh,

00:25:32.140 fee for crossing the Confederation Bridge.

00:25:33.900 I don't,

00:25:34.660 it's fine.

00:25:35.320 The problem though is as actually Mike,

00:25:38.000 uh,

00:25:38.200 Mielke from,

00:25:39.080 uh,

00:25:39.880 the Aristotle Institute pointed out,

00:25:41.600 and it wasn't something I'd thought of before because I thought,

00:25:44.020 okay,

00:25:44.280 they lowered the fees for crossing Confederation Bridge.

00:25:46.960 50 bucks sounds pretty steep.

00:25:48.340 20 sounds more reasonable.

00:25:49.400 But then he pointed out only a million people cross that bridge every single year.

00:25:54.200 And the thing is that with the Maritimes already being so subsidized by other provinces,

00:25:59.580 reducing another area of revenue for the,

00:26:03.020 uh,

00:26:03.320 for the Maritimes just means that Alberta will be kicking more money into the Maritimes in order to,

00:26:08.640 uh,

00:26:09.060 replace that lost funding.

00:26:11.120 Uh,

00:26:11.560 but we are going to have the,

00:26:13.060 uh,

00:26:13.380 the,

00:26:13.700 uh,

00:26:13.900 thing starting up here in about 30 minutes or so,

00:26:17.560 or not 30 minutes,

00:26:18.300 blah,

00:26:18.700 a minute and 30 seconds.

00:26:20.660 So we'll be able to get to that forum and,

00:26:22.640 uh,

00:26:22.860 see Bonnie Crickley talk.

00:26:24.380 I wonder if Bonnie Crickley is even showing up.

00:26:26.760 Uh,

00:26:27.280 Jake TM,

00:26:28.420 uh,

00:26:28.960 doesn't say anything for $2,

00:26:30.360 but I absolutely appreciate it.

00:26:32.080 Thank you.

00:26:34.600 Riley Elder says,

00:26:35.640 do you think there will be another party like Reform?

00:26:37.800 No,

00:26:38.760 I don't.

00:26:39.360 And I actually heard today from somebody who would be in the know that the party is actually from pressure from the inside,

00:26:46.960 from certain sources that they may start trying to democratize the party better to where,

00:26:52.600 you know,

00:26:53.180 in theory,

00:26:54.060 every riding would be up for a nomination race,

00:26:57.040 which would be fantastic to have every riding,

00:27:00.240 every single election has to have an open nomination,

00:27:03.140 or at the very least,

00:27:04.580 if there's enough people petitioning to have a nomination race against the incumbent,

00:27:09.920 then you have to do it.

00:27:11.480 Because right now we have,

00:27:12.880 and I'm not,

00:27:13.420 I,

00:27:13.600 I like a lot of the incumbent conservatives.

00:27:15.800 The problem right now is that we,

00:27:18.380 there's so much nonsense that goes on in the nominations that are held,

00:27:22.940 because obviously most,

00:27:24.140 a lot of the ridings that the conservatives can conceivably win already have MPs in them,

00:27:28.940 because there was a good chance conservatives could win that riding,

00:27:31.700 so they have won that riding,

00:27:32.800 so there's currently incumbent.

00:27:34.380 And then there is ridings that are very winnable,

00:27:37.300 and then you have an MP retire,

00:27:38.520 and then everyone runs to that one,

00:27:40.240 whether they live in the riding,

00:27:41.380 whether they're even conservative or not,

00:27:43.120 because it's a conservative stronghold.

00:27:44.920 So just pretend you're conservative and run for it.

00:27:47.000 So every nomination is either completely rigged,

00:27:50.720 or it's a bloodbath of people who probably have no business running in it,

00:27:55.240 crossing like one,

00:27:56.940 from one side of the city to another,

00:27:58.520 because it's the only game in town.

00:28:00.220 That's the only nomination you could run in.

00:28:04.500 Hank Orada says,

00:28:06.000 hey Wyatt,

00:28:06.420 just a question,

00:28:07.060 do you think the Canadian universities and professors will even,

00:28:09.760 become even more left-leaning in the next few years,

00:28:12.680 or is this the worst that it gets,

00:28:15.100 UBC and U of T in particular?

00:28:18.200 I think they might get more left-wing.

00:28:20.300 I think the only thing that will stop the universities from shifting that way,

00:28:23.720 is if parents stop letting their kids go to the institutions.

00:28:27.460 They like,

00:28:28.040 start sending them to trade schools and whatnot,

00:28:30.280 U of T and,

00:28:31.320 you know,

00:28:31.640 UBC start having a lot of funding dry up because of it.

00:28:37.540 And,

00:28:38.040 okay,

00:28:38.340 now I think it is starting,

00:28:39.300 so we can get to it.

00:28:41.160 We are gathered on Treaty 6 territory.

00:28:43.620 The traditional lands of many First Nations and Métis peoples.

00:28:48.520 We honor their history,

00:28:50.340 cultures,

00:28:51.120 and ongoing contributions to this region.

00:28:54.020 We are committed to reconciliation,

00:28:56.520 and to building a respectful relationship,

00:28:58.840 in the spirit of partnership,

00:29:00.560 and understanding.

00:29:01.320 On behalf of the Cameras and District Chamber of Commerce,

00:29:05.780 thank you for joining us this evening's,

00:29:07.940 a by-election candidates forum.

00:29:10.280 My name is Jennifer Fawson,

00:29:11.900 and I'm president of the Cameras and District Chamber of Commerce.

00:29:14.520 I agree with everyone's take on the land acknowledgment.

00:29:17.380 I do not care.

00:29:17.980 In the spirit of civic engagement and community dialogue.

00:29:22.540 If anything,

00:29:23.480 it's a bit of,

00:29:24.200 honestly,

00:29:24.780 it feels insulting to indigenous people.

00:29:26.560 Like,

00:29:26.680 every single time we talk about them,

00:29:28.260 they're like,

00:29:28.600 this used to be yours,

00:29:29.680 now it's ours.

00:29:30.340 Or maybe it's just everybody's.

00:29:32.240 It's everybody's land who's Canadian,

00:29:33.900 so let's just leave it at that.

00:29:34.700 They are just as critical.

00:29:37.020 They give us,

00:29:38.420 the people of this riding,

00:29:39.780 the opportunity to shape our representation,

00:29:42.240 and ensure our voices are heard,

00:29:44.140 where our decisions are going to be being made.

00:29:47.340 Tonight is about listening,

00:29:49.960 learning,

00:29:51.120 and engaging.

00:29:52.600 It is your opportunity to hear directly from the candidates

00:29:56.040 who are seeking to serve our community,

00:29:58.820 your neighbors,

00:30:00.280 your families,

00:30:01.320 and your businesses.

00:30:02.020 People are saying the live stream is a bit low.

00:30:03.720 I have this at max volume.

00:30:05.580 I'm just going to see if I can get it.

00:30:06.460 Whether your priorities are healthcare,

00:30:08.600 agriculture,

00:30:09.700 rural economic development,

00:30:11.220 or small business supports,

00:30:13.280 tonight is a time to learn where each candidate stands.

00:30:17.060 You might ask,

00:30:18.140 why does the Chamber of Commerce host events like these?

00:30:21.940 Because we believe in nonpartisan education,

00:30:25.340 informing voters without influence or endorsement,

00:30:28.920 informed decision making,

00:30:30.660 providing tools to help you vote with confidence,

00:30:32.720 and with clarity.

00:30:35.440 Amplifying the business's voice,

00:30:37.520 ensuring that.

00:30:40.400 Okay,

00:30:40.800 you guys probably don't need to hear her talk,

00:30:42.240 so I'm just going to silence her for a second

00:30:44.080 and see if we can get a better version.

00:30:47.980 Maybe I'll steal the feed of like the Western standard

00:30:50.180 if they're just playing it without anyone on screen,

00:30:52.320 but it's louder.

00:30:52.740 Is that one louder or is this one louder?

00:31:04.540 Okay.

00:31:06.340 Okay,

00:31:06.760 dang.

00:31:07.000 It doesn't look like there's anything louder

00:31:08.240 than what we currently have,

00:31:09.340 so let's do this.

00:31:09.940 and CEO of the Alberta Chambers of Commerce.

00:31:16.580 Thanks, Jennifer.

00:31:21.780 Well, welcome, welcome

00:31:23.340 to this Cameras and District Chamber of Commerce

00:31:26.480 Federal By-Election Candidates Forum.

00:31:28.880 So, as Jennifer said,

00:31:30.580 my name is Shauna Feth,

00:31:31.640 and I will be your moderator for this evening.

00:31:34.320 So, this program will give the candidates

00:31:36.480 the opportunity to present their political platforms

00:31:39.460 on issues relating to the federal government.

00:31:42.940 As your moderator,

00:31:43.940 I will keep a close eye on the content

00:31:45.780 of the candidates' presentations.

00:31:48.320 You know,

00:31:48.620 we are all here to give the candidates

00:31:50.140 an opportunity to express their views

00:31:52.540 on these critical platform issues.

00:31:55.240 All presentations will receive specified times

00:31:57.940 with a warning signal

00:31:59.380 when the candidate is running close

00:32:00.820 to the end of their time,

00:32:01.840 and that's being with two big clocks

00:32:03.820 on each side of the stage

00:32:05.080 to pay attention to.

00:32:06.840 And so, with that,

00:32:07.860 I'd like to take a moment

00:32:08.740 to familiarize everyone

00:32:10.000 with the rules of order for the forum.

00:32:12.200 Okay, I don't think we need to hear the rules.

00:32:13.600 I'll just get to this quickly.

00:32:16.740 Graham, finally, son, FFIE,

00:32:19.200 something, something, $5.

00:32:20.480 Well, thank you for that.

00:32:21.320 You have a very complicated name

00:32:22.520 that I cannot say,

00:32:23.220 but you say,

00:32:24.780 why not just go back to Europe

00:32:26.160 if you care about stolen land?

00:32:28.760 It's like that BC NDP lady

00:32:30.860 who's, like, going on

00:32:31.740 about how we're all uninvited guests,

00:32:33.800 and if you're a white,

00:32:34.600 you're a colonizer.

00:32:35.520 I was like, then leave.

00:32:36.800 If you're uninvited, then go.

00:32:38.700 What is this?

00:32:39.400 Like, this is just

00:32:39.860 self-flagellating nonsense

00:32:41.680 where we're not,

00:32:42.920 we don't really care,

00:32:44.100 but we'll just pretend like we do.

00:32:45.940 Well, here we go.

00:32:47.260 And we will be introducing them

00:32:48.760 in alphabetical order.

00:32:50.740 Candidates will have two minutes

00:32:52.140 to expand on their political platform,

00:32:54.860 and the format of the presentation

00:32:56.140 is at the discretion of the candidates,

00:32:58.260 so it's completely up to them

00:32:59.780 how they use those two minutes.

00:33:01.760 The timer will give a 20-second warning,

00:33:04.600 and a bell will ring

00:33:05.500 at the end of the allotted time.

00:33:07.720 No candidate will be allowed

00:33:09.020 more than their allotted time.

00:33:11.420 During the question period,

00:33:12.580 I will read the submitted questions.

00:33:15.080 Each candidate will have a chance

00:33:16.540 to answer in speaking order.

00:33:18.960 The candidate answer order

00:33:20.280 will change in each round.

00:33:22.620 Answers to the question

00:33:23.600 will then be limited to one minute

00:33:25.380 to maximize the number

00:33:26.620 that we can ask

00:33:28.800 during the time that we have allotted.

00:33:30.740 We will move to the next question

00:33:32.500 once those wanting to respond

00:33:34.260 have been heard,

00:33:35.520 and so not all candidates

00:33:36.840 are required to respond

00:33:38.320 to each question,

00:33:39.540 but they cannot bank any time

00:33:41.300 for future questions.

00:33:43.040 The question period

00:33:43.880 will be limited to a maximum.

00:33:45.360 Anyone complaining

00:33:46.600 about the sound mixing right now?

00:33:48.180 It's not me.

00:33:49.420 The forum just has

00:33:50.180 very low sound right now.

00:33:52.240 It's just as loud as the thing is.

00:33:54.480 We'll have final jurisdiction

00:33:55.800 in all matters.

00:33:57.560 So now a couple of guidelines

00:33:58.980 for attendance.

00:33:59.560 I can try and fix it.

00:34:00.700 Please be respectful

00:34:01.640 of the candidates

00:34:02.360 presenting their remarks,

00:34:03.800 as well as fellow community members

00:34:06.000 here in attendance.

00:34:07.540 Any disruption that interferes

00:34:09.340 with the candidate's ability to speak

00:34:11.140 may result in time adjustments

00:34:13.220 at my discretion.

00:34:14.260 Individuals causing delays

00:34:16.620 or disruptions

00:34:17.840 will be asked to leave the theatre.

00:34:20.160 And please note,

00:34:21.220 for your own awareness,

00:34:22.460 that the emergency exits

00:34:23.880 are located on the left

00:34:25.380 and right side of the theatre.

00:34:27.800 So with all of that,

00:34:29.720 please join me

00:34:30.580 in welcoming the candidates

00:34:32.080 for this evening's forum.

00:34:34.540 Welcome, everybody.

00:34:35.280 So opening remarks,

00:34:45.840 each of the candidates,

00:34:46.760 as I said,

00:34:47.200 will have two minutes

00:34:47.920 to share their opening remarks.

00:34:49.600 The speaking order

00:34:50.280 will be alphabetical

00:34:51.500 based on last name.

00:34:53.600 And so first,

00:34:54.360 I'd like to introduce

00:34:55.260 each of the candidates.

00:34:56.180 we have Grant Abraham,

00:34:58.480 Jonathan Bridges,

00:34:59.920 Bonnie Critchley,

00:35:01.280 Michael Harris,

00:35:02.700 Ashley McDonald,

00:35:04.120 Pierre Pelliev,

00:35:05.380 Darcy Spadey,

00:35:07.000 Sarah Stanley,

00:35:09.400 Catherine Swampy,

00:35:10.860 and Jeff Willerton.

00:35:12.180 Thank you.

00:35:12.540 Thank you.

00:35:12.580 Thank you.

00:35:12.640 Thank you.

00:35:12.720 Thank you.

00:35:17.400 All right.

00:35:18.420 Are you ready to get going,

00:35:19.540 everybody?

00:35:20.600 Okay.

00:35:21.960 With that,

00:35:22.740 I will call on Grant Abram

00:35:24.300 for his two minutes

00:35:25.280 opening remarks.

00:35:29.920 Well,

00:35:30.400 let me just say

00:35:31.420 thank you to the chamber

00:35:32.300 for this evening.

00:35:34.040 This is desperately

00:35:34.800 what we need in Canada

00:35:35.820 to have these kinds

00:35:36.600 of conversations.

00:35:37.500 I'm here

00:35:37.940 because I've spent

00:35:39.040 a lifetime watching

00:35:40.320 elections be decided.

00:35:41.820 For anyone mentioning

00:35:42.940 the audio,

00:35:43.600 I just checked the audio

00:35:44.300 on my phone.

00:35:44.800 It sounds fine overall,

00:35:45.940 but this is as loud

00:35:46.560 as we can get.

00:35:47.180 Our structure

00:35:48.100 in our constitution.

00:35:49.860 And I think

00:35:52.300 that what we're

00:35:53.100 really looking at

00:35:53.900 here in Alberta

00:35:54.560 right now

00:35:55.040 is a discussion

00:35:55.700 between what Canada

00:35:56.760 we want to have.

00:35:58.320 If it's the one

00:35:59.160 that has had the West

00:36:00.640 paying for the pandering

00:36:01.740 to Ontario and Quebec

00:36:02.820 or whether it's one

00:36:04.940 that wants to see

00:36:05.640 an Alberta strong,

00:36:07.000 free,

00:36:07.300 and independent

00:36:08.000 that can actually

00:36:09.400 stand up

00:36:10.240 and make a difference

00:36:12.220 in this world

00:36:12.960 and actually redefine

00:36:14.140 Canada.

00:36:15.440 And so my discussion

00:36:16.640 tonight,

00:36:17.180 my platform,

00:36:18.020 is about a strong

00:36:19.120 and sovereign Alberta

00:36:20.380 and its independence.

00:36:22.520 And I think there's

00:36:23.120 a lot of things

00:36:23.760 in Canada

00:36:24.200 that we're not talking

00:36:25.220 about in relation

00:36:26.680 to the public forum.

00:36:28.620 And I believe

00:36:29.380 that farmers

00:36:30.020 are producers

00:36:31.400 and not polluters.

00:36:33.380 I believe that oil

00:36:34.860 and LNG

00:36:35.700 are a requirement

00:36:36.700 for human prosperity.

00:36:38.860 I believe that

00:36:39.820 reverse racism

00:36:40.980 is racism.

00:36:42.800 I believe the nuclear

00:36:44.020 family is the greatest

00:36:45.080 form of governance

00:36:45.980 known to humanity.

00:36:46.860 I believe that compelled

00:36:49.000 speech is not...

00:36:50.260 I turned down

00:36:50.800 my microphone volume

00:36:51.960 on people's requests

00:36:52.960 so that you can kind of

00:36:53.940 neutralize it.

00:36:54.600 I believe that multiculturalism

00:36:54.620 has failed

00:36:55.200 and I believe that

00:36:56.900 there are only two sexes.

00:36:59.480 And one of the challenges

00:37:00.220 that we have here tonight

00:37:01.500 is that there's a lot

00:37:02.480 of trust.

00:37:03.060 And I had my trust

00:37:04.660 in the Conservative Party

00:37:05.540 of Canada as well.

00:37:07.080 But we are facing

00:37:07.880 a threat in this nation

00:37:08.820 of post-nationalism.

00:37:10.040 And in this last 10 years

00:37:12.400 we've had Justin Trudeau

00:37:13.960 commit to Canada

00:37:15.300 being the first

00:37:15.880 post-nation state.

00:37:17.400 We've had a severe

00:37:18.620 undermining

00:37:19.340 foreign interference

00:37:20.280 and Justin Trudeau

00:37:23.040 has told us

00:37:23.820 that COVID would provide

00:37:25.360 an opportunity

00:37:25.840 for a reset.

00:37:26.840 There has not been

00:37:27.480 one challenge

00:37:28.120 to the...

00:37:28.560 It was very funny

00:37:34.020 to me when people

00:37:34.660 like just do their

00:37:35.240 one moment

00:37:35.780 and they like

00:37:36.360 over-talk

00:37:36.940 now to their point.

00:37:39.220 Good evening, everybody.

00:37:41.060 Jonathan Bridges

00:37:41.980 with the People's Party

00:37:42.960 of Canada.

00:37:46.260 First and foremost,

00:37:47.460 I am a Christian

00:37:48.060 and I believe

00:37:49.120 that Canada

00:37:49.740 was founded

00:37:50.280 on Christian values.

00:37:52.120 With the People's Party,

00:37:54.160 we believe

00:37:55.020 that our platform

00:37:56.200 is focused

00:37:57.560 on freedom,

00:37:58.940 fairness,

00:38:00.680 personal accountability

00:38:03.140 and respect.

00:38:05.060 So with all

00:38:05.500 of that said,

00:38:06.460 we see that

00:38:07.400 there's not a lot

00:38:08.100 of respect

00:38:08.460 given to Alberta.

00:38:09.700 We want to rework

00:38:11.440 the equalization formula

00:38:12.960 to create it

00:38:14.440 to be something

00:38:14.980 that is a hand up

00:38:16.040 to provinces

00:38:16.760 that need it

00:38:17.440 but doesn't maintain

00:38:18.620 essentially a welfare state

00:38:20.780 going forward.

00:38:22.500 We also want to see

00:38:23.820 Alberta be able

00:38:24.560 to get its products

00:38:25.620 to market

00:38:26.220 with pipelines

00:38:28.020 going across the country

00:38:29.620 and to ports.

00:38:31.520 I think it is

00:38:32.020 absolutely atrocious

00:38:33.080 that we're bringing

00:38:33.760 in foreign oil

00:38:34.920 to a country

00:38:35.700 that has more oil

00:38:37.180 than just about

00:38:37.700 anywhere else

00:38:38.240 on the planet.

00:38:41.180 When it comes

00:38:41.960 to small businesses,

00:38:43.920 mostly what we're

00:38:44.880 trying to do

00:38:45.600 is to start off

00:38:47.540 with paying off

00:38:48.180 the deficit

00:38:48.700 which then brings

00:38:50.620 lower taxes

00:38:51.340 which puts more money

00:38:52.380 back in your pockets

00:38:53.380 that you can then

00:38:54.540 give back to your employees

00:38:56.740 which would create

00:38:57.700 a much more robust economy

00:39:00.240 in this country

00:39:00.840 and I cannot turn up

00:39:01.680 the audio

00:39:02.140 that's how loud

00:39:03.160 the actual live stream

00:39:04.380 is at max.

00:39:06.020 I know there's

00:39:06.480 a strong appetite

00:39:07.240 for separation

00:39:08.420 in Alberta right now.

00:39:10.820 My goal is to

00:39:12.200 bring Canada

00:39:13.540 back to a place

00:39:14.560 where Alberta

00:39:15.020 wants to be

00:39:15.740 and I do believe

00:39:17.640 that is still possible.

00:39:19.660 However,

00:39:20.340 I will say this

00:39:21.260 if Alberta

00:39:22.360 does end up separating

00:39:23.540 I'm staying

00:39:24.520 in Alberta

00:39:24.960 and yeah,

00:39:28.480 that's me.

00:39:31.380 Did the PPC

00:39:32.440 just become

00:39:33.140 like another

00:39:34.020 random third party?

00:39:35.380 Do you even have

00:39:36.000 any muscle

00:39:36.400 to get 4 or 5% anymore?

00:39:38.140 Good evening,

00:39:38.620 everybody.

00:39:39.140 I would like to

00:39:40.040 echo Grant's comments

00:39:42.980 thanking the Chamber

00:39:43.880 of Commerce

00:39:44.380 for putting this together

00:39:45.400 and allowing us

00:39:46.520 to have this time

00:39:47.460 to discuss things

00:39:48.640 all in one place

00:39:50.460 without any spin

00:39:51.980 or tall tales

00:39:53.400 told.

00:39:55.240 Myself,

00:39:55.820 I am running

00:39:56.380 as an independent.

00:39:57.180 I don't have a party

00:39:58.000 because I firmly believe

00:39:59.500 that party politics

00:40:00.440 would be damaging

00:40:01.220 the Canadian politiscape.

00:40:03.380 We are not American.

00:40:04.800 We are not

00:40:05.220 a two-party system.

00:40:07.600 And while I may have

00:40:08.600 run as a centrist

00:40:09.900 with Conservative

00:40:10.820 leanings,

00:40:11.680 I firmly believe

00:40:13.120 that the Conservative

00:40:13.780 Party of Canada

00:40:14.420 has lost its way

00:40:15.580 and I fully intend

00:40:17.820 on standing up

00:40:18.560 for my neighbours.

00:40:20.040 When our previous guy

00:40:21.540 sells us out,

00:40:22.400 to let the guy

00:40:25.260 from Ottawa come in,

00:40:26.460 that is not right.

00:40:28.500 I firmly believe

00:40:29.880 that we need

00:40:31.300 somebody here

00:40:32.180 who understands

00:40:33.080 our local issues,

00:40:34.180 who understands

00:40:34.840 the issues of

00:40:35.460 right to repair,

00:40:36.240 who understands

00:40:37.020 that we do need

00:40:38.360 proper oil sands development.

00:40:40.380 Yes,

00:40:40.660 I saw you there.

00:40:41.500 I'm well aware

00:40:42.080 where you are.

00:40:42.560 we do need

00:40:44.860 proper oil sands development.

00:40:46.620 We need proper investment

00:40:48.320 towards our farmers

00:40:49.460 and we need

00:40:50.740 the federal government

00:40:51.900 to wake up

00:40:52.940 and pay attention

00:40:54.000 outside the western border

00:40:55.440 of Ontario.

00:40:57.420 So that is who I am

00:40:58.780 and that is what

00:41:00.560 I am here for.

00:41:01.460 I am here to stand up

00:41:02.900 only for my neighbours.

00:41:04.940 My voice,

00:41:05.980 your words,

00:41:07.280 I don't have anything else

00:41:08.260 to say.

00:41:08.660 I don't even know

00:41:11.040 what she meant

00:41:11.640 by any of that.

00:41:12.440 Like,

00:41:12.580 we need proper oil sands development.

00:41:14.200 Do you just mean

00:41:14.720 that you're a green person?

00:41:15.820 Michael Harris.

00:41:17.940 I'm proud to be here

00:41:18.900 representing

00:41:19.360 the Libertarian Party

00:41:20.680 of Canada.

00:41:21.300 I actually know Michael Harris.

00:41:22.240 Why I'm running

00:41:22.660 in this election

00:41:23.280 is because I am sick

00:41:24.940 and tired of Ottawa

00:41:26.240 taking advantage

00:41:27.260 of Alberta

00:41:28.020 on every level.

00:41:30.060 We have equalization

00:41:31.060 where we are being,

00:41:32.240 our money is being

00:41:32.940 taken away from our province

00:41:34.180 and being sent out east.

00:41:35.360 Well,

00:41:35.680 small towns in this riding

00:41:36.800 barely have enough money

00:41:37.880 to be able to repair

00:41:38.760 the infrastructure,

00:41:40.080 whether that be roads

00:41:40.980 or water development.

00:41:42.700 And we have stuff

00:41:43.340 where we have

00:41:43.820 supply management

00:41:44.760 where our farmers

00:41:45.680 are being locked out

00:41:46.980 of an industry

00:41:47.780 which represents

00:41:49.000 a majority of this riding.

00:41:50.720 And that also

00:41:51.200 increase the costs

00:41:52.400 of your groceries

00:41:53.620 when you go

00:41:54.520 to the supermarket.

00:41:56.280 We're also dealing

00:41:57.220 with high taxes

00:41:58.280 and high regulations

00:41:59.380 where businesses

00:42:00.160 are struggling

00:42:01.160 to get by.

00:42:02.340 I was in Three Hills

00:42:03.380 the other day

00:42:03.880 and a couple of businesses

00:42:04.820 told me that they

00:42:05.720 are on the brink

00:42:06.880 of bankruptcy.

00:42:08.280 And if their taxes

00:42:09.700 go up,

00:42:10.240 even 1%,

00:42:11.540 they'll be out of business

00:42:12.640 and they'll be leaving

00:42:13.220 this riding.

00:42:14.000 And I'm sick and tired

00:42:14.780 of that.

00:42:15.880 And I also am here

00:42:17.740 championing the idea

00:42:18.800 of self-determination.

00:42:20.440 A lot of people

00:42:21.140 in Alberta

00:42:21.560 are wanting

00:42:22.200 to see a referendum

00:42:23.500 on next year's ballot

00:42:25.920 to see if we want

00:42:27.160 to separate

00:42:27.680 from this country.

00:42:29.320 And I'm here

00:42:30.220 to say

00:42:30.560 that we are here

00:42:31.260 to support it.

00:42:32.340 Thank you.

00:42:36.100 Thank you, Michael.

00:42:38.060 Ashley McDonald.

00:42:40.560 Hi, everybody.

00:42:41.520 My name is Ashley McDonald.

00:42:42.720 I'm the Green Party

00:42:43.560 of Canada candidate.

00:42:45.180 Thank you, everyone,

00:42:46.040 for coming by.

00:42:46.140 I like how that's

00:42:46.740 the person,

00:42:47.180 Peter, sitting next to you.

00:42:48.020 The Chamber of Commerce

00:42:49.000 for setting this up.

00:42:51.900 So if I'm the oddity

00:42:53.040 at the table,

00:42:53.620 I'm not a separatist.

00:42:54.780 I do believe

00:42:55.340 that Alberta

00:42:55.880 is best in Canada.

00:42:58.780 Maybe things

00:42:59.420 aren't great,

00:43:00.080 but we're sure

00:43:01.360 a hell of a lot

00:43:01.820 better off

00:43:02.300 without...

00:43:04.160 Thank you, everybody.

00:43:05.060 So ultimately,

00:43:07.260 for me,

00:43:07.560 the Green Party

00:43:08.140 of Canada,

00:43:08.940 we believe

00:43:09.860 that change is possible,

00:43:10.900 but we have to vote for it.

00:43:12.540 We can't keep trusting

00:43:13.440 the same institutions

00:43:14.500 that have been around

00:43:15.400 doing what they've been doing

00:43:17.020 for the past,

00:43:17.740 you know,

00:43:18.220 100-plus years.

00:43:20.300 We as a society

00:43:21.520 are at a precipice.

00:43:23.320 We're surrounded

00:43:24.060 by growing authoritarianism

00:43:25.500 in the world.

00:43:26.240 We're surrounded

00:43:27.760 by climate disasters.

00:43:30.500 Like I said,

00:43:31.120 the rise of authoritarianism.

00:43:33.460 Our hospitals

00:43:33.980 are stretched

00:43:34.740 beyond capacity.

00:43:36.820 Our society

00:43:37.940 is at a breaking point

00:43:40.220 in many ways,

00:43:41.100 and I believe

00:43:41.880 that we need

00:43:42.400 to come together

00:43:43.100 as a society

00:43:44.260 and vote for change.

00:43:45.740 Like we are

00:43:46.520 at a precipice

00:43:47.780 and we have to make a choice.

00:43:49.940 Do we want to go back

00:43:50.660 or do we want to go forward?

00:43:52.620 You know,

00:43:52.920 we may hear a lot

00:43:53.760 of rage farming

00:43:54.600 from certain people,

00:43:55.820 but we're not a party of that.

00:43:57.520 We're a party of ideas,

00:43:58.500 a party of people.

00:44:00.120 We don't want to throw

00:44:00.760 around a slogan.

00:44:01.560 We want ideas

00:44:02.420 from our leaders.

00:44:03.300 We have ideas

00:44:04.480 that we believe

00:44:05.020 are the right ideas.

00:44:06.520 So hopefully

00:44:08.120 I can convince a couple

00:44:09.560 of you to vote

00:44:10.700 for us today.

00:44:11.940 Thank you.

00:44:13.900 All you guys

00:44:14.460 was like,

00:44:14.740 we shouldn't have slogans

00:44:15.660 and we need ideas.

00:44:17.140 And he just kept saying

00:44:17.660 we were on a press

00:44:18.260 a couple of times.

00:44:19.180 That was it.

00:44:20.720 Thank you.

00:44:24.060 Remember how

00:44:24.660 no one cracked her body

00:44:26.240 even though the media

00:44:27.300 was propping her up.

00:44:28.180 Thank you very much

00:44:28.960 to the chamber.

00:44:30.440 Thank you

00:44:30.740 to the fellow candidates.

00:44:31.860 Though I think

00:44:32.340 that there are about

00:44:32.820 190 of them

00:44:33.680 that are missing.

00:44:35.800 Maybe that's

00:44:36.440 the audience out there.

00:44:38.560 But in all truthfulness,

00:44:39.560 thank you to those

00:44:40.080 who are putting

00:44:40.420 their names forward.

00:44:41.400 And thank you

00:44:42.240 to the great

00:44:42.600 Damien Couric

00:44:43.420 who has given me

00:44:44.180 the chance

00:44:44.680 to speak for the people

00:44:45.820 of Canada

00:44:46.300 and for Battle River Crowfoot.

00:44:50.400 But most of all,

00:44:51.520 thank you to Battle River Crowfoot,

00:44:53.360 the region that feeds powers

00:44:55.200 and protects this country.

00:44:56.740 Feeds through the great ranchers

00:44:59.000 and farmers.

00:45:00.440 Powers through the ingenious

00:45:03.240 energy workers.

00:45:05.060 And protects through the brave soldiers

00:45:07.100 at CFB Wainwright.

00:45:09.440 Makes me proud to be an Albertan.

00:45:11.380 Now, in fairness,

00:45:12.420 I'm from Calgary.

00:45:13.660 Born and raised.

00:45:14.640 And Calgary is a,

00:45:15.860 a little ways from Camrose.

00:45:18.180 But there's a lot of shared values

00:45:20.360 across this province

00:45:21.360 and across this country.

00:45:23.600 And my Alberta values

00:45:24.740 taught me about faith,

00:45:26.020 family and freedom.

00:45:27.000 Hard work,

00:45:28.040 helping your neighbours.

00:45:29.220 And those values guided me

00:45:30.780 to fight for the values

00:45:32.560 of this region

00:45:34.040 when I was leader of the party

00:45:35.640 and member of parliament

00:45:36.480 over a couple of decades

00:45:37.560 that I forced the Liberal government

00:45:39.260 to get rid of their carbon tax.

00:45:42.140 But,

00:45:43.060 which is a local issue

00:45:45.640 in rural communities,

00:45:47.280 forced the debate

00:45:48.520 on developing our resources,

00:45:50.820 slowing down

00:45:51.440 out-of-control immigration,

00:45:53.040 cracking down

00:45:53.660 on drugs and crime.

00:45:55.400 And now,

00:45:55.900 I want to take the local issues

00:45:57.500 and provide national leadership

00:45:59.400 to fight against

00:46:00.740 the electric vehicle mandate

00:46:02.320 because driving a pickup truck

00:46:04.420 is a local issue

00:46:05.600 in the communities

00:46:06.260 across this region.

00:46:07.820 to fight for law-abiding

00:46:10.320 firearms owners,

00:46:11.820 to fight for farmers,

00:46:14.020 and to expand our military.

00:46:15.840 These are local issues

00:46:17.380 that require national leadership

00:46:18.800 and it would be a privilege

00:46:20.240 to provide.

00:46:20.900 It would be good

00:46:25.940 if he could have finished

00:46:26.560 that properly

00:46:27.560 in terms of like

00:46:28.240 had his thought end faster.

00:46:31.100 But I got to say though,

00:46:32.120 like, goodness,

00:46:33.240 with her Bonnie saying,

00:46:34.280 like,

00:46:34.360 well, he's not from here.

00:46:35.900 He's not from here.

00:46:37.100 I'm standing up for my neighbors.

00:46:38.520 You have,

00:46:39.480 like,

00:46:39.740 it's not like she's far left,

00:46:41.500 but she's obviously

00:46:42.200 in her riding

00:46:43.000 a very liberal person

00:46:44.260 for the riding.

00:46:45.300 I find it just kind of

00:46:46.500 insulting a little bit

00:46:47.500 the way that they did this,

00:46:48.540 but still,

00:46:49.280 or the way she's running this.

00:46:50.300 It's been in the area

00:46:52.020 for many years.

00:46:53.180 I'll go back a bit.

00:46:53.840 I'm from Three Hills

00:46:55.340 and I don't want

00:46:56.420 to be Prime Minister.

00:46:58.940 I grew up

00:47:00.280 in the Three Hills area.

00:47:01.560 My family

00:47:02.240 has been

00:47:03.680 in the area

00:47:04.660 for many years.

00:47:06.260 I've worked

00:47:06.940 in the energy industry.

00:47:07.960 I went to the University

00:47:08.740 of Alberta

00:47:09.260 and for engineering

00:47:11.600 to petroleum engineer

00:47:13.780 for many years.

00:47:14.900 I've worked

00:47:15.580 in the energy industry

00:47:16.560 in this riding

00:47:17.260 from Wainwright

00:47:18.280 to Moran

00:47:19.500 to Camrose

00:47:21.160 out to Brooks area.

00:47:23.240 Been involved

00:47:23.820 in stimulating,

00:47:25.740 in cementing,

00:47:26.760 in constructing,

00:47:28.380 in doing intervention

00:47:29.320 in wells

00:47:29.820 all about this province

00:47:31.180 and more recently

00:47:32.120 in the emissions

00:47:33.140 reduction field.

00:47:34.880 My family originally

00:47:35.700 came to the Battle River

00:47:37.620 in about 1905.

00:47:39.260 They wandered in

00:47:40.140 until about 1920.

00:47:41.720 So the Spadey

00:47:42.780 has settled

00:47:43.260 the Battle River area

00:47:44.380 between Castor

00:47:45.400 and Alliance.

00:47:48.840 They still live

00:47:49.540 there to this day.

00:47:51.100 I can feel like

00:47:52.120 I can just mute

00:47:53.220 that for a little bit.

00:47:54.120 I don't think

00:47:54.320 we need to hear

00:47:54.920 about someone's

00:47:55.800 family tree

00:47:56.440 at the forum.

00:47:57.580 I just want to

00:47:57.900 get to David Edwards.

00:47:58.720 For two bucks,

00:47:59.220 he says the lighting

00:47:59.780 in that hall

00:48:00.240 is terrible.

00:48:01.460 It's not awful,

00:48:02.980 but they have

00:48:03.720 the camera pulled

00:48:04.660 back really far

00:48:05.660 and it's dim.

00:48:06.560 If you're going

00:48:06.940 to make it look

00:48:07.720 like this,

00:48:08.360 you've got to

00:48:08.780 zoom into them

00:48:09.780 so you don't have

00:48:10.220 that black space

00:48:11.260 at the bottom

00:48:11.740 and the top

00:48:12.300 because of either

00:48:12.960 the low lighting

00:48:14.180 or because the

00:48:14.960 tablecloth is black.

00:48:16.980 I'm not exactly

00:48:17.920 like somebody

00:48:18.800 maybe who should

00:48:19.580 be criticizing

00:48:20.180 other people's

00:48:20.920 settings since mine

00:48:22.300 was pretty bad

00:48:23.240 up until recently

00:48:24.040 but still.

00:48:25.240 Martin for 10 bucks

00:48:26.680 says thank you

00:48:27.180 for covering this,

00:48:27.920 Wyatt.

00:48:28.600 Well, absolutely.

00:48:29.420 Thanks for watching

00:48:30.040 and thanks for

00:48:30.580 supporting the show.

00:48:31.980 Again, sorry.

00:48:33.020 I apologize that

00:48:33.740 the audio is not

00:48:34.440 great from the forum.

00:48:35.380 It's the forum's fault.

00:48:36.960 They should have

00:48:37.540 their mics turned up more

00:48:38.640 and there's only

00:48:39.760 so much I can

00:48:40.620 actually do

00:48:41.140 to raise the volume

00:48:42.060 out of this

00:48:42.500 unless I had

00:48:43.120 extra software

00:48:43.920 to basically

00:48:44.560 artificially raise

00:48:46.180 the volume

00:48:47.700 even past

00:48:48.540 what my laptop wants.

00:48:51.160 Hi, everyone.

00:48:52.300 My name is Sarah Spanier

00:48:53.560 and I am running

00:48:54.800 as an independent

00:48:55.400 and one thing

00:48:57.160 that I've heard

00:48:57.680 all of these amazing

00:48:58.520 people do

00:48:59.440 is talk at you.

00:49:01.240 They haven't offered

00:49:01.980 you guys any solutions

00:49:03.340 on what they're

00:49:04.080 going to do

00:49:04.820 and that's what

00:49:05.660 I want to do

00:49:06.160 for you guys.

00:49:06.700 I am not here

00:49:08.440 to tow party lines.

00:49:09.920 I am here to listen

00:49:11.220 and to actually

00:49:12.340 go get funding

00:49:13.520 where it is needed.

00:49:15.020 We have lost out

00:49:16.660 enormously

00:49:19.100 on the amount

00:49:19.900 of funding

00:49:20.340 because it has not

00:49:21.360 been brought back

00:49:22.040 due to party lines

00:49:22.920 and I want to bring

00:49:24.180 that back for you guys.

00:49:25.120 I want to help you guys

00:49:25.940 build your small businesses

00:49:27.080 and your agriculture

00:49:28.220 and oil and gas.

00:49:29.440 These are all

00:49:30.120 super important

00:49:31.600 issues here

00:49:32.680 and I'm listening

00:49:33.880 and the funding

00:49:35.100 is there.

00:49:37.060 It's just been

00:49:37.900 left there.

00:49:38.780 We have it.

00:49:39.340 We can take it.

00:49:40.180 We don't need

00:49:40.740 to raise taxes

00:49:41.460 to do that

00:49:42.220 and with me

00:49:44.500 being an independent

00:49:45.260 I don't answer

00:49:46.880 to any party.

00:49:47.820 I answer to you guys.

00:49:49.140 You guys are my boss.

00:49:51.000 Nobody else.

00:49:51.740 There is no middleman here

00:49:53.000 so you can ensure

00:49:54.200 that when you are

00:49:55.460 speaking to me

00:49:56.180 we don't have to

00:49:57.180 filter through anything.

00:49:57.780 She says all these people

00:49:59.000 haven't talked about

00:49:59.780 actual solutions yet

00:50:00.940 and then she starts

00:50:01.640 talking about how

00:50:02.520 as an independent

00:50:03.480 I don't work for a party.

00:50:04.720 It's like okay

00:50:05.320 we all understand

00:50:06.660 we all we understand

00:50:07.760 the concept.

00:50:08.740 Which we are currently

00:50:09.500 seeing through

00:50:10.580 Loblaws and stuff

00:50:11.640 and I want to

00:50:13.840 ensure that government

00:50:14.840 spending is done

00:50:15.960 appropriately

00:50:16.500 and we're cutting

00:50:17.420 back on that

00:50:18.080 and like I said

00:50:19.640 I want to bring

00:50:20.120 funding back

00:50:20.860 to this area

00:50:21.660 because it's there

00:50:22.760 and we can grow

00:50:24.620 this small rural

00:50:25.800 community that we all

00:50:26.940 strongly believe in.

00:50:28.360 Thank you.

00:50:29.500 There's just nothing.

00:50:31.000 There's always this person

00:50:31.860 who's like this

00:50:32.280 fake centrist

00:50:32.980 who walks in

00:50:33.680 and be like

00:50:33.940 I want to have

00:50:34.640 consensus

00:50:35.120 and do stuff

00:50:36.620 and get stuff on.

00:50:37.200 Thank you so much

00:50:43.520 to the chamber

00:50:44.200 for setting all of this up

00:50:45.520 and thank you so much

00:50:46.360 to all of my fellow

00:50:47.160 candidates for coming

00:50:48.200 out here

00:50:48.700 and for standing up

00:50:50.820 for you.

00:50:52.200 I know that Damien

00:50:53.940 is in the crowd.

00:50:55.720 I'll have you know

00:50:56.400 I took down four of your

00:50:57.540 signs that were still up.

00:50:58.860 You're very welcome.

00:50:59.680 I will not be reporting

00:51:02.120 them as still up.

00:51:03.860 If any of you

00:51:05.040 see any of my signs

00:51:06.140 out there

00:51:06.460 because there's so many

00:51:07.660 please take them down

00:51:08.760 after everything's done.

00:51:10.020 Let me know

00:51:10.440 I'll go get them.

00:51:13.040 It's like she realized

00:51:14.060 that that was a snarky

00:51:15.200 nasty thing to say

00:51:17.120 and then she bought it

00:51:17.720 back saying

00:51:18.100 oh if I leave any of mine

00:51:19.320 up keep them

00:51:19.860 take them down

00:51:20.460 like what is this?

00:51:22.060 So why are we running?

00:51:23.940 We're running as advocates.

00:51:25.720 We want to be a voice.

00:51:26.940 We want to bring issues

00:51:28.160 that are otherwise

00:51:29.060 ignored by the government.

00:51:31.380 Issues like

00:51:32.160 affordability.

00:51:34.640 Dude affordability

00:51:35.720 is actually constantly

00:51:36.740 talked about

00:51:37.280 by the government

00:51:38.260 but they just

00:51:38.900 don't usually

00:51:39.960 have the best solutions.

00:51:41.100 That's like generic.

00:51:42.580 Indigenous relations.

00:51:44.320 Oh yeah

00:51:44.920 nobody talks about that.

00:51:45.980 Or management

00:51:46.060 or I should say

00:51:46.740 proper management

00:51:47.720 of natural resources.

00:51:49.720 Means putting them

00:51:50.420 Our mental health

00:51:51.240 and addictions

00:51:51.940 are public safety

00:51:54.200 and crime

00:51:55.160 taxation

00:51:56.720 dare I say

00:51:58.220 Trump

00:51:59.080 small businesses

00:52:01.120 and seniors.

00:52:02.880 Dude if there was

00:52:03.660 a presidential election

00:52:04.620 at Battle River Crowfoot

00:52:05.620 Trump would beat

00:52:06.420 Kamala Harris.

00:52:08.780 We are all treaty people

00:52:10.820 so that separation

00:52:12.660 you're thinking about

00:52:13.660 has a few more people

00:52:15.480 that you need to

00:52:16.420 kind of talk to

00:52:17.580 before that can even

00:52:18.600 become a conversation.

00:52:21.240 So

00:52:21.760 That's actually

00:52:23.800 not how that works.

00:52:25.580 Thank you all so much.

00:52:27.340 I'm also going to be here

00:52:29.160 to listen to your concerns.

00:52:31.200 What do you want advocated?

00:52:32.900 Because we all know

00:52:33.900 this run really isn't

00:52:35.920 for a new

00:52:36.780 Thank you Catherine.

00:52:43.780 Jeff Willerton

00:52:44.780 You know what

00:52:46.320 I have a soft spot

00:52:47.180 for the Christian Heritage Party.

00:52:48.560 Jeff Willerton

00:52:48.820 on representing

00:52:49.620 the Christian Heritage Party

00:52:50.520 of Canada.

00:52:51.240 If you remember

00:52:51.860 one line from tonight

00:52:52.900 I hope you remember this

00:52:54.220 If you always vote

00:52:55.320 for the lesser of two evils

00:52:56.460 you'll always have

00:52:57.280 an evil government.

00:52:58.540 Like wrestlers

00:52:59.280 who practice their moves

00:53:00.320 beforehand

00:53:00.880 and go out for a beer

00:53:01.860 after the match

00:53:02.620 the mainline parties

00:53:04.140 often work together.

00:53:06.060 Brian Mulroney

00:53:06.760 for instance

00:53:07.300 signed the Rio Declaration

00:53:08.680 in 1992

00:53:09.540 leading directly

00:53:10.480 to Justin Trudeau's

00:53:11.440 economy crushing

00:53:12.320 carbon tax

00:53:13.100 in 2019.

00:53:14.720 It's been said

00:53:15.320 by many that

00:53:15.820 we wouldn't have had

00:53:16.360 one without the other.

00:53:17.140 In 2007

00:53:18.700 Stephen Harper

00:53:19.980 along with a certain

00:53:20.760 minister named

00:53:21.380 Pierre Polyev

00:53:22.060 signed the United Nations

00:53:23.360 Sustainability Act

00:53:24.680 leading to

00:53:25.360 Christopher Freeland

00:53:25.940 declaring a third

00:53:26.860 of Alberta

00:53:27.360 off limits

00:53:27.980 to development

00:53:28.600 a few years ago.

00:53:29.940 In 2009

00:53:30.520 the same Stephen Harper

00:53:32.040 signed what was called

00:53:32.840 the Codex Alimentarius.

00:53:35.000 That strange sounding beast

00:53:36.140 regarding the labeling

00:53:37.040 of food and drugs

00:53:37.920 paved the way

00:53:38.840 for the Red Team's

00:53:39.680 assault on our

00:53:40.500 natural health

00:53:41.060 products industry

00:53:41.840 in 2023.

00:53:44.820 So one sets up

00:53:45.820 the shot

00:53:46.120 the other takes it.

00:53:47.220 The cause and effect

00:53:47.860 may at times

00:53:48.400 be years apart

00:53:49.060 obscuring the connection

00:53:50.120 but that's how it works

00:53:51.360 when you have

00:53:52.000 two major parties

00:53:53.020 that are wings

00:53:53.780 of the same bird.

00:53:55.120 At other times

00:53:55.720 their cooperation

00:53:56.380 could be right in your face

00:53:57.520 like when not a single

00:53:58.860 member of either party

00:54:00.320 raised so much

00:54:01.360 as a finger

00:54:02.060 to stop Bill C4

00:54:03.260 in 2021

00:54:04.120 which threatens you

00:54:05.220 with five years

00:54:06.220 behind bars

00:54:06.900 if you happen to tell

00:54:07.400 little Johnny

00:54:07.900 that he's a boy.

00:54:09.040 So to be clear

00:54:09.700 the Tories

00:54:10.480 aren't the solution

00:54:11.260 they're part of the problem.

00:54:12.680 They always have been

00:54:13.380 both they and the Red Team

00:54:15.140 have been working together

00:54:15.920 for decades

00:54:16.600 to land us

00:54:17.340 in this climate change

00:54:18.620 carbon tax

00:54:19.780 gay worshiping

00:54:21.180 freedom of speech

00:54:22.000 crushing hell

00:54:23.860 in which we find ourselves.

00:54:25.600 How did we get here?

00:54:27.040 By bouncing between

00:54:27.860 the Blue Team

00:54:28.380 and the Red Team

00:54:28.920 for 158 years.

00:54:30.800 How did we get out

00:54:31.400 of this mess?

00:54:32.300 Well by changing course

00:54:33.160 obviously

00:54:33.560 but better parties

00:54:34.820 can't take government

00:54:35.920 without winning

00:54:36.520 their first seat.

00:54:37.820 In my closing comments

00:54:38.740 I'll tell you more

00:54:39.540 about what I am convinced

00:54:41.020 is simply the best

00:54:42.060 outside of the box

00:54:42.980 political option

00:54:43.860 in this country

00:54:44.520 bar none.

00:54:45.740 Thank you and God bless.

00:54:48.140 I actually tend to like

00:54:49.560 a lot of Christian Heritage Party

00:54:50.540 people.

00:54:50.940 I didn't really like

00:54:51.620 the way that

00:54:52.400 I thought it was a good speaker.

00:54:53.900 I just didn't like

00:54:54.360 I thought a few of those things

00:54:55.580 are a little dishonest.

00:54:56.860 Signing on to some sort of

00:54:58.160 like you know

00:54:59.220 nice sounding treaty

00:55:00.960 in 97

00:55:01.840 or like in 87

00:55:03.440 doesn't necessarily mean

00:55:05.240 that you are responsible

00:55:06.160 for something

00:55:06.760 someone else does with it

00:55:07.800 that you would have

00:55:08.380 never done with it

00:55:09.340 but like usually

00:55:10.920 I think the

00:55:11.600 the Christian Heritage Party

00:55:14.180 at its most effective

00:55:15.040 selectively runs in ridings

00:55:16.960 when the conservative candidate

00:55:18.080 is too socially liberal

00:55:19.680 and so they run

00:55:20.800 a socially conservative candidate

00:55:22.100 to basically

00:55:22.860 have been heard.

00:55:24.960 Again I will say

00:55:25.560 candidates are not

00:55:26.640 required to respond

00:55:27.780 but they cannot bank time

00:55:29.840 for the next question either.

00:55:31.980 So without further ado

00:55:33.620 let's jump right

00:55:34.480 into the questions.

00:55:35.260 So this first one

00:55:36.480 we're going to start

00:55:38.020 with you Grant

00:55:38.880 on this one

00:55:39.600 is on economy and jobs.

00:55:43.040 So many Canadians recall

00:55:44.680 when a single income

00:55:45.840 such as that

00:55:46.540 of a postal worker

00:55:47.600 assembly line worker

00:55:48.940 or rig hand

00:55:50.060 was sufficient

00:55:51.120 to support a family.

00:55:52.800 Today that is increasingly

00:55:54.080 no longer the case.

00:55:55.920 So what specific measures

00:55:57.460 would you propose

00:55:58.760 to meaningfully

00:55:59.520 improve affordability

00:56:01.760 and economic security

00:56:03.420 for everyday Canadians?

00:56:05.260 I'll tell you what

00:56:08.140 I think we need to look

00:56:09.040 at immigration

00:56:09.620 because our young people

00:56:10.740 can't get jobs

00:56:11.580 because new immigrants

00:56:12.640 are subsidized

00:56:13.540 in all of the

00:56:14.360 entry level jobs.

00:56:15.880 Let's start there.

00:56:17.960 Let's start by talking

00:56:19.480 about making sure

00:56:20.420 we don't have flights

00:56:21.740 to Amrastar

00:56:23.280 back and forth

00:56:24.500 because we do have

00:56:25.520 an immigration problem

00:56:26.420 it is driving up

00:56:27.360 our housing prices.

00:56:29.040 We had a long time

00:56:30.140 Mr. Polyev telling us

00:56:31.480 that there was no link

00:56:32.320 between demand

00:56:33.800 and supply

00:56:34.480 in our housing

00:56:35.220 and or the immigration issue

00:56:37.520 we simply have

00:56:38.500 to look at that.

00:56:39.880 I know this question

00:56:40.900 is about the economy

00:56:41.940 but let's start

00:56:42.680 in terms of where

00:56:43.360 our kids and our

00:56:44.060 grandchildren are

00:56:44.800 in terms of trying

00:56:45.420 to get on the ladder.

00:56:46.820 There are many things

00:56:47.900 that we need to fix.

00:56:49.020 We need to repatriate

00:56:50.200 our industrial base

00:56:51.180 to this country.

00:56:52.300 We need to incentivize

00:56:53.580 entrepreneurship again

00:56:54.800 and we need to stop

00:56:55.680 the flight of funds

00:56:57.100 out of this country.

00:56:57.920 The problem is

00:56:59.200 that people are

00:57:00.080 leaving this country

00:57:00.860 because we have

00:57:01.540 deeper problems

00:57:02.300 that we never talk

00:57:03.320 about in this nation

00:57:04.220 and it's rooted

00:57:05.460 in post-nationalism.

00:57:08.040 Every time he says

00:57:09.000 post-nationalism

00:57:09.940 he eventually gets

00:57:10.600 cut off.

00:57:10.940 Thank you, Grant.

00:57:11.380 Jonathan.

00:57:14.920 So fixing the economy

00:57:16.440 mirror a lot

00:57:18.040 of what Grant said.

00:57:19.100 I mean there is

00:57:19.840 obviously a lot

00:57:22.100 of people coming

00:57:22.700 to this nation

00:57:23.380 over 1.2 million

00:57:24.700 a year

00:57:25.100 for the last

00:57:25.640 several years.

00:57:26.980 It is crowding out

00:57:27.940 people in the housing market

00:57:29.460 it is crowding people

00:57:30.300 out of the jobs market

00:57:31.320 so those are two

00:57:32.000 very big things

00:57:32.980 that contribute

00:57:33.900 to affordability.

00:57:35.720 The other thing

00:57:36.360 the People's Party

00:57:37.260 would see done

00:57:38.000 is lowering taxes.

00:57:40.080 The average Canadian

00:57:41.000 is paying somewhere

00:57:41.920 north of 42%

00:57:43.380 of their paycheck

00:57:44.640 straight to the government.

00:57:46.740 The American Revolution

00:57:47.680 was fought over a 3%.

00:57:49.160 We have got to the point

00:57:52.100 of what I believe

00:57:52.980 is ridiculous

00:57:53.620 with taxes

00:57:54.380 so with lower taxes

00:57:55.800 then we'd have

00:57:56.380 more money

00:57:56.880 to go forward.

00:58:00.120 And also

00:58:01.040 I just want to

00:58:02.940 mention something

00:58:03.740 Legend said

00:58:06.240 what did the woman

00:58:07.300 get medals

00:58:07.740 for being a lesbian?

00:58:09.380 She's actually

00:58:10.320 fought in combat roles

00:58:11.480 so you should probably

00:58:12.280 not talk about that

00:58:13.620 like goodness people.

00:58:18.080 I don't like

00:58:19.120 Bonnie Crickley's run

00:58:20.100 I think it's very shallow

00:58:21.120 but she actually

00:58:22.080 did fight

00:58:22.620 in Afghanistan

00:58:23.720 yes

00:58:25.140 basing our economy

00:58:26.620 off of immigration

00:58:27.400 numbers

00:58:27.840 not a good idea

00:58:28.840 but before we worry

00:58:31.240 about our economy

00:58:32.220 we need to worry

00:58:33.000 about our government

00:58:33.680 spending

00:58:34.180 when the federal

00:58:36.420 government

00:58:36.860 is bloated

00:58:38.000 and sending out

00:58:39.420 third party contracts

00:58:40.880 such as

00:58:41.480 Veterans Affairs

00:58:42.260 contracting out

00:58:43.840 care of veterans

00:58:44.720 to Loblaws

00:58:46.220 we need to deal

00:58:48.300 we need to deal

00:58:48.320 with it

00:58:48.700 the bloating

00:58:50.300 has to stop

00:58:51.560 we need our

00:58:52.320 middle managers

00:58:53.040 to actually leave

00:58:54.740 instead of just

00:58:55.380 cutting the teeth

00:58:56.180 we also need

00:58:57.680 our MPs

00:58:58.480 to stop spending

00:58:59.520 excessive amounts

00:59:00.420 of money

00:59:00.840 when we have

00:59:01.760 one person

00:59:02.520 who spends more

00:59:03.460 than the next

00:59:04.120 two of your

00:59:05.400 money

00:59:06.000 then we can look

00:59:07.420 at cutting our taxes

00:59:08.420 and making our

00:59:09.540 employment

00:59:10.020 that much easier

00:59:11.340 to manage

00:59:11.900 I can generally

00:59:16.120 agree that we

00:59:16.880 need to cut

00:59:17.320 spending

00:59:17.720 but like those

00:59:18.380 the things that

00:59:18.940 she mentioned

00:59:19.300 are actually

00:59:19.600 pretty minor

00:59:20.220 areas of spending

00:59:21.340 fair state

00:59:22.080 main issues

00:59:22.800 number one

00:59:23.380 is like this

00:59:23.920 government is

00:59:24.500 spending way

00:59:25.280 too much money

00:59:26.660 we are both

00:59:27.200 in debt

00:59:27.780 and in a deficit

00:59:28.720 at the same time

00:59:29.900 where we are

00:59:30.260 making no money

00:59:31.240 at the same time

00:59:32.480 we are paying

00:59:33.360 the highest amount

00:59:33.960 of taxes

00:59:34.380 that we have

00:59:34.960 ever paid

00:59:35.460 in our entire life

00:59:36.200 so we need

00:59:37.280 to be lowering

00:59:38.020 the amount

00:59:38.720 that our government

00:59:39.540 is spending

00:59:40.240 I see all the

00:59:41.280 time where money

00:59:42.020 is being wasted

00:59:42.980 and wasted

00:59:44.040 in random

00:59:45.260 projects across

00:59:46.240 the country

00:59:46.780 where they're

00:59:47.600 not actually

00:59:48.180 going towards

00:59:48.840 the services

00:59:49.560 someone else

00:59:50.300 in the comments

00:59:50.720 was saying

00:59:51.100 well she's probably

00:59:51.800 like Bonnie Crickley

00:59:52.720 who's probably

00:59:53.060 in a combat

00:59:53.660 adjacent role

00:59:54.340 she wasn't

00:59:54.900 she's actually

00:59:55.420 known for being

00:59:56.140 like one of

00:59:56.700 the few women

00:59:57.300 in a like

00:59:58.380 combat facing

00:59:59.420 role in an

01:00:00.000 armored unit

01:00:00.680 taxes

01:00:01.720 because you pay

01:00:02.360 taxes on

01:00:02.960 everything that

01:00:03.700 you do

01:00:03.980 whether it be

01:00:04.520 on your paycheck

01:00:05.540 when you go

01:00:06.200 to the store

01:00:06.760 driving your car

01:00:07.740 anything

01:00:08.380 you are paying

01:00:08.980 taxes

01:00:09.380 and we want

01:00:09.800 to fight

01:00:10.040 to get rid

01:00:10.420 of as many

01:00:10.800 as possible

01:00:11.280 thank you

01:00:12.000 thank you

01:00:14.960 Ashley

01:00:15.400 Pierre

01:00:16.140 Michael

01:00:18.060 it's my turn

01:00:19.540 now

01:00:19.720 oh I'm so

01:00:20.560 sorry

01:00:21.040 I feel bad

01:00:23.340 we got your

01:00:23.780 names turned

01:00:24.560 around on the

01:00:25.320 script

01:00:25.680 so my apologies

01:00:26.880 Michael

01:00:27.460 that would be

01:00:29.280 Ashley again

01:00:29.940 okay

01:00:32.260 you have to

01:00:34.540 have one

01:00:34.960 faux pas

01:00:35.380 it can't be

01:00:35.900 perfect right

01:00:36.660 sorry about that

01:00:37.420 Ashley

01:00:37.720 just so we're

01:00:38.720 clear when we

01:00:39.160 go into the

01:00:39.540 ballot box

01:00:40.260 I'm Ashley

01:00:41.100 McDonald

01:00:41.880 just think of

01:00:47.960 the golden

01:00:48.320 arches

01:00:48.800 it's close

01:00:50.720 enough to my

01:00:51.240 spelling

01:00:51.560 it'll work

01:00:52.160 all right

01:00:53.980 so basically

01:00:54.440 for me

01:00:54.900 the the

01:00:55.320 green party

01:00:55.740 platform

01:00:56.380 believes in

01:00:57.240 a restructuring

01:00:57.920 in Canada

01:00:58.340 as a resource

01:00:59.000 economy

01:00:59.540 basically to

01:01:00.940 establish national

01:01:01.740 strategy reserves

01:01:02.680 and critical

01:01:03.140 resources

01:01:03.880 phase out raw

01:01:05.720 resource exports

01:01:06.640 by prioritizing

01:01:07.720 domestic reserves

01:01:08.540 processing and

01:01:09.320 manufacturing

01:01:09.940 that will in

01:01:10.880 turn create more

01:01:11.640 jobs create more

01:01:12.540 industry within

01:01:13.240 Canada take our

01:01:14.700 raw materials out

01:01:15.660 of the hands

01:01:16.080 I just want to

01:01:17.120 respond to one

01:01:17.680 thing because I

01:01:18.080 think it is a

01:01:18.520 good comment to

01:01:20.320 talk around but

01:01:21.720 Miles here says

01:01:22.420 it's sad some of

01:01:23.100 these people seem

01:01:23.740 better than

01:01:24.240 Pierre Polyev and

01:01:25.440 what I would say is

01:01:26.220 I really like people

01:01:27.020 like Mike I know

01:01:28.280 Michael Harris

01:01:28.940 Michael Harris a

01:01:29.620 really good guy

01:01:30.260 I've met him in

01:01:31.020 person a few

01:01:31.520 times really great

01:01:32.800 fiscal conservative

01:01:33.940 but the thing is

01:01:35.420 that a lot of

01:01:35.960 these people because

01:01:36.600 they're not the

01:01:37.320 leaders of parties

01:01:38.060 they're not putting

01:01:38.600 on national

01:01:39.200 campaigns they can

01:01:40.260 kind of say

01:01:40.740 whatever they want

01:01:41.740 and they don't

01:01:42.540 need to be trying

01:01:43.660 to make create a

01:01:44.560 balanced kind of

01:01:45.700 message in order to

01:01:46.520 win the country

01:01:47.160 they just need to

01:01:47.680 win a riding I

01:01:48.240 think the

01:01:48.480 conservative should

01:01:48.880 get more bold I

01:01:49.980 think they went

01:01:50.360 too soft and lost

01:01:51.240 election but you

01:01:51.940 can't also go

01:01:52.840 hardcore libertarian

01:01:54.120 to win the whole

01:01:54.520 country and the

01:01:56.280 government is

01:01:57.140 thank you Ashley

01:01:59.080 Pierre

01:02:00.300 the cause of

01:02:03.600 inflation is

01:02:04.380 government

01:02:04.800 cost yes it's

01:02:07.480 very simple

01:02:08.060 supply and demand

01:02:10.200 the government is

01:02:12.000 boosting demand

01:02:14.000 and limiting supply

01:02:15.720 they're boosting

01:02:17.100 demand through out

01:02:18.040 of control

01:02:18.600 immigration and

01:02:19.920 money printing that

01:02:20.940 adds more money

01:02:22.220 and people than

01:02:23.620 new products for

01:02:24.520 them to buy

01:02:25.180 and they are

01:02:26.720 restricting the

01:02:27.780 supply of things

01:02:29.160 by blocking

01:02:30.020 everything from

01:02:30.960 home building to

01:02:32.500 natural resource

01:02:33.320 development so

01:02:35.020 what's the solution

01:02:35.860 we need to cut

01:02:36.780 back on immigration

01:02:37.560 in fact we need to

01:02:38.560 have negative

01:02:39.000 population growth

01:02:39.940 for the next

01:02:40.380 several years as

01:02:41.480 more people leave

01:02:42.260 and come we need

01:02:44.940 to slash bureaucracy

01:02:46.440 consultants foreign

01:02:48.280 aid corporate

01:02:49.260 welfare and handouts

01:02:50.960 to fraudulent

01:02:51.920 refugees and we need

01:02:53.540 to unlock our

01:02:54.640 resources to produce

01:02:55.980 cheap energy and

01:02:57.320 affordable homes so

01:02:58.440 let's produce more

01:02:59.320 stuff rather than

01:03:00.340 adding more people

01:03:01.640 and more money

01:03:02.440 thank you Pierre

01:03:06.960 Darcy

01:03:08.600 thank you

01:03:10.540 I think one of the

01:03:12.340 reasons I took this

01:03:13.800 position to be the

01:03:16.120 candidate for the

01:03:16.900 Liberals is because

01:03:17.580 I'm impressed with the

01:03:18.300 leader

01:03:18.560 I come from about a

01:03:20.320 35 year career in

01:03:22.280 business and I'm very

01:03:24.060 thankful for it and I

01:03:25.760 like Mark Carney's

01:03:27.500 government and his

01:03:28.340 approach to leading

01:03:30.000 from a position of

01:03:31.040 experience he has been

01:03:33.220 the bank central

01:03:34.360 banker for two major

01:03:36.420 economies in the G7

01:03:37.940 this is significant and

01:03:40.320 when I see him he was

01:03:41.720 not very good at it in

01:03:42.780 England by the way and

01:03:43.860 he was only good in

01:03:44.480 Canada because he did

01:03:45.120 exactly what Flaherty and

01:03:46.580 Carper told him to do

01:03:47.740 this is for my crops to

01:03:49.080 be good and he is

01:03:50.560 working on that by

01:03:51.720 getting the economy

01:03:52.480 going east to west as

01:03:54.320 well as unrupturing the

01:03:56.120 foreign markets also as

01:03:58.700 an oil and gas guy I

01:04:00.000 want my product shipped

01:04:01.140 to Tidewater and Bill

01:04:02.660 five Bill C five has

01:04:04.220 already started the

01:04:05.600 movement in that

01:04:06.400 direction thank you it

01:04:07.760 literally doesn't he

01:04:09.740 actively he went he has

01:04:12.380 spoken to Inuit leaders

01:04:13.960 other indigenous leaders

01:04:15.760 on in interviews he's

01:04:17.360 basically said don't

01:04:18.020 worry we're still going

01:04:18.600 to do all of the

01:04:19.760 consultations Wab Canoes

01:04:21.400 walked it back EB's

01:04:22.940 walked it back saying

01:04:23.860 that they're not

01:04:24.500 actually in favor of

01:04:25.940 pipelines anymore if all

01:04:27.640 First Nations are not

01:04:28.700 100% in favor which

01:04:30.320 means nothing's going to

01:04:31.400 get done at least

01:04:32.340 nothing fast Canadians and

01:04:35.100 it would ensure that

01:04:36.860 edible food waste still

01:04:38.560 gets put back into food

01:04:40.100 banks and stuff like

01:04:40.940 that so you don't have to

01:04:41.760 worry as much about how

01:04:43.040 much your grocery bill is

01:04:44.000 going to cost I also want

01:04:46.240 to put forth a second

01:04:47.160 bill that would actually

01:04:48.180 limit government spending

01:04:49.500 the 187.8 million

01:04:51.960 dollars that our

01:04:53.000 government just spent in

01:04:54.260 taxpayer dollars we need

01:04:55.880 to cut that big time and I

01:04:57.840 want to be the one to do

01:04:58.740 that thank you you do to

01:05:01.000 appreciate that even that

01:05:02.460 lady who also seems more

01:05:03.720 liberal like Bonnie even

01:05:05.160 Bonnie and this lady seem

01:05:06.820 like right-wing fanatics

01:05:08.460 compared to someone who'd

01:05:09.340 run in like Toronto Center

01:05:10.400 like to be fair Bonnie is

01:05:12.180 also probably trying to

01:05:13.680 shape herself a little bit

01:05:14.880 to what voters want

01:05:15.940 because when she calls

01:05:17.300 Daniel Smith a traitor in

01:05:18.600 an interview I don't think

01:05:19.880 it's because she's you know

01:05:21.540 all I didn't think that

01:05:22.700 that Daniel Smith is

01:05:24.560 spending money wisely she

01:05:25.980 has very liberal opinions

01:05:27.380 on a bunch of stuff but in

01:05:28.420 this room she has to be

01:05:29.380 like we spend too much and

01:05:30.520 then the two areas she

01:05:31.320 says we spend too much are

01:05:32.600 like really minor process

01:05:34.460 things that if you made a

01:05:36.060 more efficient you'd be

01:05:36.880 saving like hundreds of

01:05:38.080 thousands of dollars or

01:05:39.040 low millions not the

01:05:40.600 billions that we need to

01:05:41.820 see be saving and that

01:05:44.840 doesn't work for me it

01:05:46.200 shouldn't work for you I'm

01:05:48.120 focused on growth that

01:05:49.160 works for you and your

01:05:50.260 family where you have a

01:05:51.920 chance to get ahead right

01:05:53.960 now that means a plan to

01:05:55.360 buy Canadian and build

01:05:57.120 Canadian to fight for

01:05:58.980 every job including jobs

01:06:00.820 in the public sector saving

01:06:03.120 Canadian jobs is so vital

01:06:04.800 especially considering I'm

01:06:08.320 happy I didn't hear what

01:06:09.160 she was saying thank you

01:06:10.880 Catherine Jeff thank you

01:06:13.440 for the question ladies

01:06:15.680 gentlemen the Christian

01:06:16.240 heritage party is the only

01:06:17.260 party that I'm aware of that

01:06:18.920 advocates eliminating income

01:06:20.660 taxes and business taxes and

01:06:22.400 replacing them with a

01:06:23.120 consumption tax called the

01:06:24.220 fair tax that will

01:06:26.100 absolutely leave more money

01:06:27.640 in each of your pockets to

01:06:28.640 make groceries more

01:06:29.480 affordable I think that was

01:06:30.480 the question where the

01:06:31.360 question started economy jobs

01:06:34.180 anyways I actually have a

01:06:37.080 problem with getting rid of

01:06:39.260 the income tax I'll explain

01:06:41.660 that later though

01:06:42.220 road is the winner because

01:06:43.740 everybody's going to want to

01:06:44.760 be there and open up their

01:06:45.580 businesses there I think it

01:06:47.380 would be just a fantastic

01:06:49.240 idea but on that's still

01:06:50.760 that's on the taxation side

01:06:52.700 but on the spending side

01:06:54.380 Margaret Thatcher turned

01:06:56.240 England around Javier Malay

01:06:58.700 has turned Argentina around

01:07:00.180 first balanced budget in 128

01:07:01.600 years there's another

01:07:02.820 government I don't know its

01:07:04.240 name down in El Salvador

01:07:05.440 that's turned El Salvador

01:07:06.620 around believe it or not it

01:07:08.440 can be done we can downsize

01:07:10.380 government and balance the

01:07:12.220 budget and make it

01:07:13.620 thank you Jeff so the next

01:07:20.660 question we're going to start

01:07:21.540 with you Jonathan just to give

01:07:23.060 you a heads up so this one's

01:07:24.780 immigration and population

01:07:26.100 growth so Alberta's

01:07:28.040 population we've kind of we've

01:07:29.660 already heard some of this

01:07:30.540 already and some of the

01:07:31.320 answers but Alberta's

01:07:32.960 population is growing rapidly

01:07:35.060 raising concerns about

01:07:36.300 pressure on public services

01:07:38.360 the treatment of newcomers and

01:07:39.960 the ability of infrastructure

01:07:41.500 to keep pace do you support

01:07:43.960 increased immigration and how

01:07:45.980 would you ensure newcomers are

01:07:47.300 protected and supported while

01:07:49.240 ensure ensuring services can

01:07:50.960 meet the demands of a grown

01:07:52.480 population I just want to pause

01:07:57.560 there and just disagree with the

01:07:58.760 premise of the question how will

01:08:00.020 you make sure that newcomers are

01:08:01.280 supported and protected it's

01:08:02.980 like why are you as a

01:08:04.120 newcomer needing support and

01:08:05.620 protection aren't you showing

01:08:07.540 up to add to the economy like

01:08:09.460 yeah we can have a small portion

01:08:11.580 of real refugees not like I

01:08:14.060 didn't like the country I used to

01:08:15.240 be from so I'm coming here now

01:08:16.700 and I need to take refuge if

01:08:18.780 you're from like Iran and you're

01:08:20.480 like a dissident fair enough if

01:08:22.420 you're like a distant from other

01:08:23.760 countries where the government's

01:08:24.840 coming after you perfectly fair

01:08:26.440 why do you need protection from

01:08:29.280 why do you need support if

01:08:30.780 you're coming here supposedly

01:08:32.060 because you're good you're going

01:08:33.660 to add to the cultural mosaic

01:08:35.860 you're going to add to the

01:08:36.920 economy if you can't support

01:08:38.540 yourself and get with the

01:08:39.580 program you know figure out how

01:08:41.380 to work with other people in this

01:08:42.780 country we don't really need you

01:08:45.040 here anyways so I'll let this go

01:08:47.080 the people's party's position on

01:08:51.140 immigration at the moment is that

01:08:52.660 we probably we need to actually

01:08:54.360 just press pause we shouldn't have

01:08:56.460 more people coming to a country

01:08:57.780 that can barely keep our own fed we

01:09:01.280 have veterans that can't afford a

01:09:03.600 house to live in can't afford food

01:09:05.180 to eat it's unconscionable I do

01:09:12.360 believe that there is a place for

01:09:14.920 true refugees if they need

01:09:16.660 assistance to come in while there

01:09:19.500 is unrest in their home country but

01:09:21.320 I also believe very strongly that when

01:09:23.740 that unrest is done they should be

01:09:25.600 going back home we have a great

01:09:28.960 country and it's not going to stay

01:09:30.500 that way if we just keep letting

01:09:32.120 absolutely everybody in without any

01:09:34.200 qualification at all that being said

01:09:37.480 my family was immigrants once upon a

01:09:40.420 time and I'm not opposed to

01:09:42.380 controlled immigration

01:09:43.960 well I think Jonathan said it best

01:09:54.280 controlled immigration it definitely

01:09:56.620 needs to slow down we are not in a

01:09:59.680 position right now to take care of our

01:10:01.400 own much less other people but again

01:10:04.360 before we can look at immigration and

01:10:06.720 and costs we need to deal with our

01:10:09.440 government bloat before why why can't we

01:10:12.300 do both at the same time I actually

01:10:13.820 don't understand why like oh we can't

01:10:16.020 we can deal with immigration but not

01:10:17.160 after but not before government bloat

01:10:18.940 they are doctors they are the skills we

01:10:21.860 are desperately needing but our

01:10:24.440 government fails to acknowledge their

01:10:26.500 skills their education yes we need to

01:10:30.020 slow down immigration stopping it

01:10:31.860 entirely is a bad thing not

01:10:34.840 acknowledging the skill sets that

01:10:36.540 people bring to continue to deal with

01:10:39.220 our country and the issues we've got

01:10:40.860 is also something that needs to be

01:10:43.960 dealt with we got to cut the

01:10:46.380 government bloat then we can afford to

01:10:49.100 feed everybody

01:10:49.780 I wish she would be more specific

01:10:54.080 because when she keeps keep saying we

01:10:55.300 need lower immigration but not zero like

01:10:56.760 well then name a number

01:10:57.720 because a lot of the times people like

01:11:00.740 to blame immigrants for a lot of

01:11:02.040 problems in this country and most of

01:11:03.700 the time you can probably blame the

01:11:05.620 welfare state a lot of the times our

01:11:07.820 government is just handing out cash to

01:11:10.380 new people in this country I think

01:11:11.980 there's a bill that was recently

01:11:13.180 passed in Ontario or our Doug Ford is

01:11:15.740 given around 10 or so billion dollars

01:11:17.860 for hotel development for newer people

01:11:20.140 coming into this country that is in my

01:11:22.100 opinion a complete waste of money we

01:11:24.260 need to be able to if people are

01:11:26.140 wanting to move this country they need

01:11:27.500 to be bringing their own money to come

01:11:28.880 here safely and I personally believe it

01:11:32.240 should be the decision of Alberta to

01:11:33.960 choose who is coming into this province

01:11:36.160 and who is not thank you

01:11:38.720 thank you Michael Ashley

01:11:42.480 so for me immigration is one of

01:11:48.860 Canada's greatest strengths it brings

01:11:50.600 new skills energy ideas and cultural

01:11:52.920 richness richnesses to our

01:11:54.920 communities and at a time when many of

01:11:57.400 our regions are suffering labor

01:11:59.320 shortages and aging populations

01:12:01.340 labor shortages we have massive

01:12:04.060 unemployment rates in places like

01:12:05.320 Ontario like 7.7 unemployment rates

01:12:07.800 or like 7.3 in Ontario labor

01:12:10.360 shortages what made a serious error

01:12:13.140 when they took the advice of

01:12:14.480 McKinsey and company and set an annual

01:12:16.200 immigration target of 500,000 people

01:12:18.360 with no plan and where these people

01:12:20.180 are going to live what communities are

01:12:21.680 going to go to and even he's saying

01:12:23.360 it was still too much adapt these

01:12:25.080 communities to all these newcomers

01:12:26.580 there was no published targets for

01:12:28.620 temporary residents until just last year

01:12:30.620 we believe in learning from these

01:12:32.100 mistakes immigration targets must be

01:12:34.040 thoughtful transparent and aligned with

01:12:35.900 Canada's real capacity and long-term

01:12:38.300 planning for both temporary and

01:12:39.860 permanent immigration immigration is

01:12:42.060 great when it's done right

01:12:43.180 thank you Ashley here I agree and we did

01:12:50.020 it right for 150 plus years whether it

01:12:53.200 was the frontier pirate frontier pioneers

01:12:55.780 who came and settled the prairies or the

01:12:58.380 great Italians and Portuguese who came and

01:13:01.040 built roads and founded families across

01:13:03.740 Canada or the or my wife who came as a

01:13:06.180 refugee her dad picked fruit in a farm

01:13:08.640 field so that he could pay the rent and

01:13:10.780 now they're a successful story but over

01:13:13.240 the last 10 years the Liberals have

01:13:15.840 adopted a post-nationalist ideology they

01:13:18.420 call it the century initiative to triple our

01:13:20.740 population to favor globalist interests

01:13:23.620 and multinational corporations at our

01:13:25.640 expense they've driven down wages with

01:13:27.480 excess temporary foreign workers with bringing

01:13:30.920 abusing the temporary the international

01:13:33.060 student program and allowing fraudulent and

01:13:35.300 often criminal arrivals to to come in and

01:13:38.360 abuse our system that abuse must stop we must

01:13:41.480 have more people leaving than coming over the

01:13:43.980 next several years as we bring down our

01:13:45.920 population allow our health care our housing

01:13:48.520 our job market that's not a specific number

01:13:52.660 he's giving but that honestly is a really

01:13:54.640 good position I like that he's been saying

01:13:56.300 these days I think it's really simple and it's

01:13:58.380 really easy to hold them to did more people

01:14:00.340 net leave the country then entered that's

01:14:03.300 what we want I'm actually very happy with

01:14:05.180 that because the thing is it still lets you

01:14:06.760 bringing people who actually have skills like

01:14:08.680 I want that electrical engineer to come over

01:14:10.880 here but we can move all these TFWs out we

01:14:13.460 can move all these low skill workers who

01:14:15.240 really can't sustain themselves here 10 of

01:14:17.680 them can leave but I'll take in two

01:14:19.100 electrical engineers so I think this he's

01:14:20.960 actually landed on something quite effective

01:14:22.640 involved in the University of Alberta and in the

01:14:26.680 Petroleum Engineering Advisory Council and one

01:14:29.260 of the things that has given the universities all

01:14:31.740 across the country a lot of grief is this student

01:14:34.100 visa fiasco so I believe the Kearney government is

01:14:37.100 presently pausing things and looking at things and

01:14:40.420 that's we can probably just not listen to her him and

01:14:43.680 the rest of the people I just need to catch up on some

01:14:45.580 of these and then we can I might go to the back I'll

01:14:47.940 probably go back to the regular chat when it's not I

01:14:50.400 would say the interesting side of the debate is

01:14:52.600 everything Pierre and to his left on the stage or

01:14:55.900 not his left his right my left or our left you know I

01:15:00.700 like hearing their like answers maybe we'll try and get

01:15:03.700 the Christian heritage guy but I'll go to dash one dash

01:15:07.040 two here who says income taxes theft of your work and a

01:15:10.000 punishment for being productive the only tax we

01:15:13.100 should have is consumption tax which is harder to

01:15:16.200 evade the reason and here's a good discussion because

01:15:19.060 I agree with your general logic my thing is I'm using a

01:15:23.160 different type of logic which is electoral logic the

01:15:27.420 problem with getting rid of an income tax rather than

01:15:30.720 getting rid of a consumption tax really let's say my

01:15:33.860 main goal is I want to reduce the tax burden by 35% or

01:15:38.660 even 50% I want the tax burden to go down that much and in

01:15:42.500 doing so pursuing that goal I would lower income taxes and

01:15:45.560 eliminate consumption because guess what do you think do you

01:15:49.260 think voters will bring back an income tax you better believe

01:15:52.960 it because if the income tax gets eliminated it'll come back in

01:15:56.500 the form of something that mostly is concentrated on people

01:15:59.720 making over a certain amount because it's a political winner to

01:16:02.720 advocate on for taxes for rich people once the once the

01:16:07.220 consumption taxes eliminated the GST it's much harder to

01:16:11.000 advocate for the consumption tax to come back because it's a

01:16:14.160 tax on everybody so everybody is incentivized to not bring it back

01:16:18.360 we already have the income tax if you eliminate it within four

01:16:21.460 years it might be back and the in the you may have actually had

01:16:24.360 to raise the consumption tax in order to make up for lost

01:16:27.000 revenues because you can't have a consumption tax of only 5% to do a

01:16:30.720 full government's budget you need to be more like 14% without the

01:16:35.340 income tax so that's my thing is that I think that if you you know if you

01:16:39.980 shoot the income tax in the head it will get back up like a zombie

01:16:43.580 consumption tax if you eliminate that it will go away it's very

01:16:46.520 much an 80s and 90s kind of idea to raise money back when the you

01:16:51.880 know when when income tax were lower and people were willing to put up

01:16:55.780 with that a little bit to pay for some stuff these days now I think that a

01:17:00.780 lot of people have grown sick with just the taxes in general but I'll get

01:17:03.680 back to this guy they can to ruin this country they spent the tax as much as

01:17:07.760 they can thank you I don't have much to say this time around so keep it up I'm

01:17:15.260 just kidding they've done everything they can to ruin this country as fast as

01:17:19.460 they can they tax as much as they can they spend as fast as they can they give

01:17:22.920 it what away as much money as they can and they open the doors to everybody who

01:17:27.020 wants to come here I believe in controlled immigration but I believe that

01:17:31.720 there needs to be a a pause on immigration until we get our own house in

01:17:36.300 order and get things under control here so generally what I assumed he was going

01:17:40.860 to say but now I'll move on to Warren Peabody here so it says for five bucks

01:17:45.140 thank you for that so funny see the leftists beside him silently crashing out

01:17:49.300 while Pierre talks uh yeah the funny thing is they even the lefties on this

01:17:54.860 panel have to kind of sound like they're you know they're you know they're

01:17:59.180 down-home conservatives a little bit even the NDP lady talking about how

01:18:03.240 reconciliation was one of the biggest issues to her even she is having to

01:18:07.360 acknowledge uh like the fact that oil and gas matters but then she just silently

01:18:11.320 slips in that she wants it to change about 125 months I'll go back there's an

01:18:15.680 argument for that I'll go back for Grant Abraham we need to take make a complete

01:18:20.200 just about a complete pause on on immigration at this moment thank you

01:18:23.140 thank you Jeff I know CHP guy lost his papers I'm gonna stand up here because

01:18:29.540 my legs are sore well I'll say this uh my family uh is an in is an immigrant

01:18:34.660 family we pioneered land about 125 miles from here and I'm a very proud

01:18:40.580 Western Canadian I'll tell you this you guys are being sold a bill of goods here

01:18:45.260 tonight from Mr. Poliev because he's talking to you about unleashing our energy

01:18:49.600 sector I would like to know how Mr. Poliev's going to do that when he refuses

01:18:55.060 to tell us whether he'll leave the UN climate accord that completely restricts

01:19:01.000 our carbon I would like to know about inflation inflation is government no no

01:19:05.760 no inflation is government debt and the reason we have lost 40 percent of our

01:19:11.520 spending in this nation is because of rampant spending that is destabilizing

01:19:16.600 our country and that is exactly why we have a U.S. president looking at a

01:19:23.020 post-national government that is careening towards destruction we need to

01:19:28.240 have deeper thank you Grant so this next question Bonnie we're gonna start with you

01:19:38.020 this one is around government account accountability and I'm gonna pause here

01:19:42.460 because I just want to talk about something that's in the comments that's just

01:19:44.980 like blatantly wrong I'll go back onto full screen for a second here

01:19:49.280 Stu Baca is putting up this completely specious argument against Poliev that

01:19:55.140 pure Poliev has the biggest expense account larger than Trudeau's

01:19:58.560 no he did not do you know what pure Poliev's member of parliament office expense

01:20:06.380 account had more expenses put to it than Justin Trudeau's because Justin Trudeau

01:20:11.640 doesn't put that many expenses through his constituency association or his

01:20:16.560 constituency office or his or his member of parliament office his MP office he

01:20:21.680 obviously had most of expenses through the office of the prime minister

01:20:26.460 obviously do you actually think that Poliev is spending more than the prime

01:20:31.020 minister even the number they had quoted at like what Poliev was spending on trips

01:20:34.960 which he's a party leader naturally he's gonna spend a lot Jagmeet Singh did too and I

01:20:38.840 don't fault him for doing that he's the leader he has to get around a lot of places

01:20:41.820 go to tons of events do tons of marketing tons of stuff to promote what he's doing

01:20:46.360 in parliament Poliev I think has spent like a couple million do you think that

01:20:51.120 Trudeau's budget in a year is just two million it's dozens of millions of dollars

01:20:55.740 it's probably like 50 million for the office of the prime minister and maybe a

01:21:00.480 little bit less than that but I'm adding in like private jet travel for the prime

01:21:04.220 minister which is fine it's the prime minister but people have this idea that

01:21:08.600 like Justin Trudeau is like penny pinching an office and only spending like

01:21:12.220 seven hundred thousand dollars a year not a chance yes he didn't expense a lot in

01:21:17.520 his MP office because it's more efficient to do so in the prime minister's office

01:21:21.600 it reduces the paperwork oh my goodness I don't understand why people say that

01:21:26.220 stuff democracy so given that several candidates do not reside within the

01:21:33.900 boundaries of this writing what does local representation mean to you and what

01:21:39.160 specific actions will you undertake to ensure the perspectives and priorities of

01:21:43.560 the constituents are authentically represented oh goody you found my

01:21:49.520 favorite one I absolutely 100% agree if you want to run for an area you need to live here

01:21:59.160 sorry this this annoys me one she really has to take the cowboy hat off because the the

01:22:11.640 lighting's not doing her any good he's she looks like some sort of like mysterious stranger

01:22:16.120 coming in to do justice in some small western town but what you have to live in the writing

01:22:22.740 was she mad in history that William Lyon Mackenzie King after he lost two different times for a seat

01:22:29.860 in parliament when he was prime minister two separate elections uh during it he lost a seat had to run

01:22:34.600 some more was that wrong is it wrong that Carney ran for prime minister while not even having a

01:22:39.600 residency in Canada was it wrong he ran in Nepean despite not living in Nepean obviously she doesn't

01:22:45.480 actually care about that she only cares about it when it's Polyev doing it which is another indicator

01:22:50.380 she probably is just liberal it's probably just that she has very liberal opinions on things and

01:22:54.840 she in particular doesn't like that Polyev's running in her riding because she doesn't like

01:22:58.900 Polyev and she's not conservative she can say I'm a centrist with conservative leanings what else is

01:23:04.000 she gonna say it's an 86% conservative voting riding and that's not even counting the PPC or other

01:23:09.700 right-wing parties and if you added all those together it's like a 90% right-wing riding of course

01:23:14.900 she's gonna say I'm I have center-right leanings and she's like oh we need efficiency in government

01:23:19.620 but her efficiency stuff is like like like teasing around the corners because that's all that's the

01:23:25.900 the most her most conservative opinion in certain areas she doesn't like the middlemen in government

01:23:30.220 uh you know sending large contracts out to Loblaws in fact to be fair if Loblaws was doing a service

01:23:36.200 for the government it probably is going to do it more efficiently than the government can

01:23:39.100 this longest ballot crap that's got to stop we need I can agree one person who will

01:23:46.820 uh be the official agent that way we don't have one person sponsoring 200 people

01:23:53.360 but first and foremost you don't know what's going on here unless you live here

01:23:59.580 as for government accountability I absolutely would use a position my position as a swing vote within a

01:24:08.960 minority government to push for government accountability I want to release everybody's

01:24:15.480 spending thank you very much what you mean she means a little release everyone's spending actually

01:24:21.860 is already public there's a reason why the Canadian Taxpayer Federation and Black Locks reporter

01:24:26.020 has a field day doing requests for information on every single office I guess she wants it like

01:24:31.020 released publicly all the time like it has to be put on a website that could be a fine idea but I don't

01:24:36.200 think it would change as much as you would think like the NDP and in British Columbia constantly get

01:24:40.940 caught taking like $16,000 worth of helicopter rides in a month when they could just be taking the

01:24:47.080 ferry and these are just individual ministers or MLA's offices and does anything change no because

01:24:53.280 frankly most voters don't care and that's maybe a tragic thing most voters don't really care about

01:24:58.200 these little spending issues in government but they're not the macro billion dollar problems in

01:25:03.220 government it still adds up but still it doesn't mean that much thank you Bonnie Michael I believe

01:25:10.460 first and foremost you have to be able to live in the writing to be able to represent it number two

01:25:15.140 you have to be able to show up to all the events you have to be able to go from town to town this is a big

01:25:20.620 writing and talk honestly this is the thing though it's a leader I agree like you don't want some

01:25:27.100 guy in Edmonton running down in Battle River Crowfoot like 300 like a 200 kilometers away from where he

01:25:32.460 lives yeah that's a bad luck the thing is when it's the leader you need the leader in parliament

01:25:37.880 everyone understands that the leader just needs a seat so that they can lead caucus are we really

01:25:43.220 going to get up in arms like no Pauliev now has to not he has to resign as leader of the party

01:25:47.640 or he has to stay outside in the hallways of parliament because like you know he doesn't

01:25:52.960 have a seat it's just not how politics works and I like Michael Harris but like the whole like you

01:25:57.900 have to live in the riding bad candidates are bad candidates bad candidates can come from outside

01:26:02.500 the riding they can be inside the riding at the end of the day I want the best candidate and in this

01:26:07.940 case because it's like the leader of the conservative party it is the best candidate because it's going to

01:26:12.500 cause the most things to happen in parliament having the leader back in parliament talk to every

01:26:18.280 single person in this riding that you can and I've seen we out of the 200 or so candidates that are

01:26:23.700 running in this election I don't think even 75 percent of them are stepping foot in the province

01:26:28.620 and that's got to stop I don't know what Thomas or whatever the his official and agent name is

01:26:34.320 is trying to chorus in our riding here but that's got to stop I'm sorry and for representation

01:26:40.300 and accountability for my uh my bid for the member of parliament position would be I'm not running

01:26:46.300 I'm not running for a wage I want to I'm wanting to be your member of parliament for free I'm not

01:26:51.600 willing to take a wage I don't want a pension I want to make sure that at the end of the day you

01:26:55.160 have good representation and I'm doing it for free thank you thank you Michael Ashley

01:27:01.420 well right off the bat I'll admit I do not live in this riding I live in Red Deer so I'm adjacent

01:27:08.940 to the riding I'm not thousands of kilometers away but uh no I do not live in the uh within

01:27:15.140 BRC myself um one of the quickest easiest ways possible to make sure something like this doesn't

01:27:21.180 happen with a long ballot committee is electoral reform the green party's been pushing for this

01:27:25.700 for decades it's not the solution I gotta say it's not the thing is the longest ballot committee is

01:27:32.220 saying it's pushing for proportional representation or some other system multi-member districts having

01:27:37.860 single transferable votes in again I've said this before in three provinces BC Ontario and PEI

01:27:44.340 there have been electoral reform referendums in the in BC and PEI there's been three in each of them

01:27:51.080 and they've lost every time voters don't actually like this stuff but there's this idea on the left

01:27:56.380 that everyone's like a secret progressive that needs to be awakened to the idea that they're

01:28:00.300 progressive everyone all the voters are secretly progressive being tricked by the establishment

01:28:05.060 except when you have a referendum vote and it's not being run the BC in 2018 they had a referendum

01:28:12.040 vote on changing the electoral system first to know the green the BC green party leader endorsed the

01:28:18.760 yes side to change the voting system John Horgan in 2018 the election where he became premier he was

01:28:24.980 endorsing it I think that like the I think that Wilkinson was against it uh or it was like I think

01:28:31.760 it might have been still it wasn't Christy Clark at that point whoever it was I think the liberals

01:28:35.540 opposed it but it wasn't like well you know the liberals opposing it and the other two it was a close

01:28:41.540 provincial election so I could see it like no it didn't it didn't lose a close it wasn't like the

01:28:47.640 pro proportional representation vote side it wasn't that they lost a little bit they got blown out

01:28:55.620 the yes side only got 34 percent with two of the parties that formed the government backing the

01:29:01.800 initiative it's because people don't like proportional representation it makes for very

01:29:06.120 messy governments that don't get anything done liberal party campaigned on in 2015 came into office

01:29:11.660 swearing this was the last election by first past the post gave it to an inexperienced junior MP who

01:29:17.480 had no idea what they were doing then underfunded it under advertised it had tiny little town halls

01:29:22.760 hardly anybody went to and then just poof it disappeared so now here we are 210 people most of

01:29:29.880 them out of here is a protest because they're angry at first past the post now it ignores people

01:29:34.100 this system needs to be changed a green MP would fight for that every day that they're in parliament

01:29:39.940 thank you Ashley Pierre a green MP would fight for that every day in parliament the funny thing is I

01:29:47.200 don't even really see Elizabeth May talking about it all that often thank you very much look I'll be

01:29:53.480 honest having a leader of a political party as your local member of parliament is a trade-off on the one

01:29:59.620 hand the leader in truth lives in hotel rooms and low budget hotel rooms across the country I can assure

01:30:08.960 you and they live in in St. John's Newfoundland one night and in Sault Ste. Marie the next and maybe

01:30:15.600 Port Alberni after that at the the other side though is that leader can bring a very powerful megaphone to

01:30:23.080 the local issues of the community for example getting a pipeline built from Hardesty over to Prince Rupert or to

01:30:33.960 to uh to uh Kitimat that is a local issue that requires national leadership

01:30:39.240 protecting your right to own a hunting rifle that is a local issue that requires national leadership

01:30:46.260 fixing the prison in Drumheller is a local issue that needs national leadership I will provide that

01:30:51.980 I'm gonna say we can probably just stop here like you guys can tell me if you want to keep watching

01:30:58.960 the debate but we're probably going to see the same thing going on you know Polyev has a good answer

01:31:03.380 you know Grant Abraham I've even met Grant Abraham I don't agree with him on everything uh everyone's

01:31:08.480 saying very populist stuff right now he's going to have a good answer the PPC guy will have a good

01:31:12.920 answer libertarian guy will have a good even Bonnie Crickley obviously will have good answers because she

01:31:17.300 knows the crowd of people she's in front of and she's not going to be repeating that I think Danielle

01:31:21.240 Smith's a traitor like she was saying before and so with with pure Polyev there I think it is a good

01:31:27.620 point that he's making that like the idea that like oh so you're like oh you're not going to be

01:31:33.620 talking about all the the potholes that are that are in our roads in our small towns is like yeah

01:31:39.180 but the thing is that he's not going to be like microscopically caring about the issues of the

01:31:43.340 rioting but he's also the guy who has the political beliefs that you have and he's going to be bringing

01:31:48.980 those to a national level who like here's the even my thing the thing is like the a lot of people

01:31:55.960 would say that the problem with Maxime Bernier when he was running the PPC and I know he's still

01:32:02.380 technically the leader but really is he at this point he's just like floating on the problem with

01:32:07.680 Maxime is not because he's some like fop from Montreal or from from Bose uh from the Bose but he

01:32:14.280 is did grow up in Montreal that's not Maxime Bernier's problem the Maxime Bernier's problem is that he

01:32:20.420 doesn't campaign is that he doesn't actually show up yeah he technically campaigns in local

01:32:25.080 ridings like Portage Lisger when it comes up but he doesn't really campaign he phones in his

01:32:30.780 electoral campaigns and that's the problem for him if your guy even if he doesn't live in your

01:32:35.960 riding is actually doing the things he said he was going to do and changing the laws he said he was

01:32:40.460 going to do who cares yeah you you kind of want your city councilor to live in the riding but you know

01:32:47.520 you want yeah you want your city councilor to obviously live in the area so that they can see all the

01:32:53.060 potholes and want to fix them but do you like yeah you want him to be like you want the city

01:33:00.160 councilor to be there you want your provincial representative to probably be more local federal

01:33:04.400 issues become more abstract and more general and so yeah you don't want to have like no rural people

01:33:11.080 in parliament which means that a lot of farming issues may get overlooked but overall though the

01:33:17.100 having polyev representing battle river crowfoot is not going to throw off the representation of

01:33:22.720 rural people in the in the country and again you kind of do need a leader in parliament or everything

01:33:28.460 gets very strange even eventually nenshi had to go run up in edmonton in order to get a seat in

01:33:34.380 alberta's uh legislature because it was kind of stupid him having to sit outside the legislature to

01:33:40.040 get anything done uh graham here says note bonnie crickley is on blue sky so yeah i think that's a good

01:33:46.520 way of of summing her up she was somebody who thought that x was too right-wing too racist too

01:33:52.780 fascistic so she had to move over to blue sky uh mh has listened to grant abraham i can jump back to

01:34:00.060 him like grant's fine i've met him before um yeah he's but i would i would again i would agree i would

01:34:07.460 disagree with a bunch of the stuff that he believes but it's stuff that he's probably not going to mention

01:34:11.900 at this actual event at this uh forum i'll maybe sort of skip around but i don't think we really

01:34:17.400 need to listen to like all the liberal candidates speaking and uh whatnot i think i can probably just

01:34:23.040 jump around a bit

01:34:23.840 ladies and gentlemen i call airdrie home and i also don't want to be

01:34:32.880 and uh it works sovereignty is about interested in the truth the truth is the conservative party

01:34:40.620 voted for bill c4 that will criminalize you if you stop your child transitioning each of you will go

01:34:46.060 to jail for five years pierre polyev talks about faith family and freedom that's a sham

01:34:51.240 and i think the other conversation we continue to need to have is what is really going on what's

01:34:56.620 going on in this country is that our sovereignty is being portrayed on a national level and the only

01:35:02.520 response is the people of alberta that have the faith the resiliency the strength the wealth and the

01:35:09.080 grit to actually stand up to the selling out of the nation and so while we're talking about this

01:35:14.420 tonight remember we are talking about two canadas because what's happening in this country

01:35:19.340 is a pandering to ontario and quebec to get this gentleman elected and you're paying the price

01:35:25.040 that's what's going on

01:35:26.800 thank you grant jonathan

01:35:31.500 the the thing i don't like about what grant said there and i think it's dishonest is whenever people

01:35:38.560 bring up votes that occurred under erin o'toole's lack of leadership where he effectively forced

01:35:45.200 conservatives to vote for non-conservative things and now apparently that's what defines you do you

01:35:50.180 actually think that peer polyev supports bill c4 the one that was yeah like the the transitioning one

01:35:56.580 the the anti-conversion therapy bill which basically defines conversion therapy is not letting your

01:36:02.180 child go through gender therapy you know from social transitioning to hormones to the rest

01:36:07.760 obviously that's the problem um yeah i would say that patrick's right either the moderator is pretty

01:36:13.860 nice and all this but yeah so with with the grant abraham that's where i would start having a problem

01:36:20.060 with him and where it becomes again gotcha politics the ppc does this a lot well you guys voted for this

01:36:27.140 back in this year and that means that's what you know we can't trust you it's it's it undermines your

01:36:34.480 own point and you kind of look silly when you're basically saying the other guy's not good because he's not

01:36:38.780 perfect like oh wow shock gasp a human being isn't perfect you know people didn't want to get kicked

01:36:46.360 out of caucus so they voted for bill c4 under o'toole probably knowing that o'toole wasn't going to last

01:36:51.860 so long so just let him do what he's going to do he'll be off in the rearview mirror soon but people

01:36:56.900 like no you should have stood up to him you should have flipped over a table and say i'm not doing this

01:37:01.820 the government can pass the law anyways would does it look bad on your voting record sure

01:37:08.140 kathy wagenthal voted for it arnold vierson some of the most pro-life christian people in parliament

01:37:15.260 they voted for it do they believe in it not for a second but they're not going to put their career

01:37:20.560 on the line have o'toole kick them out knowing no other mp's probably going to stand up for you if

01:37:26.360 you get kicked out because they don't want to get dragged into a fight too yeah there is a chance

01:37:30.940 that you could maybe force him out if you do this but and what i have to get i have to disagree

01:37:35.840 with this but kenzie cackman says why it's called integrity okay but okay we actually have to deal

01:37:43.080 with real life your leader saying if you don't vote for this i'm going to kick you out and you vote and

01:37:49.580 you don't vote for you get kicked out and by the way nobody's going to remember why you got kicked out

01:37:54.000 in five seconds nobody does the thing is it you have to fight hard for anyone to remember

01:38:00.480 why you got kicked out and for it to actually make a political difference there i am totally

01:38:06.200 fine with people playing the long game having to vote for the wrong thing knowing that in the long

01:38:11.140 run this guy's not going to be around anymore and then i can start saying what i want again

01:38:15.200 there's a lot of mps who even were not allowed to speak out during this federal election because

01:38:20.940 people like jenny byrne were putting extreme controls over what people could say during the campaign

01:38:27.080 which is a real big reason why the conservatives lost the speech control was insane but as a

01:38:33.340 candidate are you going to pick a fight with jenny in the first week of the campaign when they can

01:38:38.940 whack you replace you with somebody else and nobody's really going to care what you have to say

01:38:43.680 afterwards or why not wait for the campaign to go over how it's going out however it's going to go

01:38:50.540 and then afterwards like a jameel javani or somebody else you just start saying whatever you

01:38:55.760 please and say yeah whatever try and control what i say everyone likes me and it's not in a campaign

01:39:00.680 where you can revoke my uh my candidacy and if you kick me in a caucus now you're going to look stupid

01:39:05.880 that's how you move in politics you have to pick your moment and obviously there are moments where you

01:39:11.080 have to stand up for integrity issues like if a party in general is going the wrong way you have to

01:39:17.860 stand up and stop them if it's just the leader and right now if you stood up for him to him you

01:39:22.860 you would get kicked out of caucus and no one's really going to stand up for you and no one's

01:39:26.720 even remember why you were having this fight that's a bad move in my opinion again strategy matters you

01:39:33.700 have to pick your moments and the thing is like i'm not someone who's like just do whatever the

01:39:38.120 party's telling you to do i help run the one bc party in british columbia i'm a legislative advisor

01:39:45.280 for dallas brody and tara armstrong in british columbia i absolutely know there is a moment when you

01:39:51.180 leave and you do not look back which is what tara armstrong ended up doing after dallas brody was

01:39:55.960 kicked out for completely stupid reasons eventually you actually do need to put your money where your

01:40:00.440 mouth is but bill c4 under a tool which all the media coverage around it was like really warped it

01:40:06.800 was all around the idea that it's like oh it's stopping kids from being beaten up for being gay

01:40:10.780 that's not what the bill was about by the way if you don't think it's already illegal to beat up a

01:40:15.680 child you're stupid obviously it was already like electric shock therapy on gay people was already

01:40:22.940 illegal obviously and so to have your whole political career go down in flames over a fly-by-night

01:40:30.900 vote that the media has already poisoned the well on over an issue with leadership that will be solved

01:40:37.760 in time when o'toole goes away that would be at least in my opinion a bad thing to do and by the way

01:40:42.000 i'm not being animated like i was mad at the person's perspective for saying that you should

01:40:45.660 have integrity i get the integrity point and there's i don't think there's anything no there's

01:40:50.720 nothing lacking in integrity in waiting it out a little bit and then moving when you can what lacks

01:40:57.200 integrity is when you never move and there is no stake there is no moment when you would ever say i have

01:41:02.740 to leave warren peabody says for two dollars carney is acting conservative how does pierre stand out

01:41:10.280 well and i think polyev has actually shifted to the right since the election in a way that if he was

01:41:15.680 acting like it during the election he would have won easily in my opinion the problem is is that the

01:41:21.420 conservative party started playing it really safe they stopped really campaigning hard on any issue

01:41:26.540 they weren't they weren't running on a big vision they were running on like the the liberal party or

01:41:31.900 carney would say i'm going to cut your taxes by one percent under fifty thousand dollars and polyev would

01:41:37.440 say two and a quarter and it's like well it is more it's technically you know it's double but does

01:41:45.060 anyone care it does the average voter really make a nuanced difference between the guy who's going to

01:41:52.880 save them three hundred dollars and the guy who's going to save them save them six hundred and twenty

01:41:57.440 five dollars i think not and so if you're going to run on a big tax issue you got to say i'm going to

01:42:03.300 reduce taxes across the board by twenty percent by twenty five percent that's when you get people's

01:42:08.880 attention you got to run on slashing immigration not reducing it a little bit you got to run on like

01:42:15.600 some socially conservative or or culturally conservative issues that really shake up the field

01:42:21.640 that get people to realize yeah by the way uh trump's not running in this election but you know

01:42:26.780 the liberals are running on this insane social policy you should focus on i think there wasn't enough

01:42:31.740 um there wasn't enough pointing at the liberals insane positions on a lot of issues

01:42:36.500 cora says for ten dollars a small thank you well thank you back cora for helping support the show

01:42:43.320 but uh should we go back i think we also we still have this going on maybe i'll go to live and see

01:42:50.060 what's going on

01:42:50.740 unleashing our resources want to privatize it and i get what michael's saying about how he supports

01:43:01.680 a a blended system of sorts or this hybrid sorry hybrid system of a blended private and public but

01:43:09.920 if we don't have enough doctors and nurses and social workers and psychologists and pharmacists now

01:43:15.120 we're going to have even less when the for-profit side can pay them more than what the government can

01:43:20.160 pay them so this doesn't actually fix the system it's going to make it even worse a green government

01:43:25.360 believes that everyone deserves a doctor deserves access to pharma care deserves access the dentist

01:43:29.920 to dentistry mental health services therapy and so on we would pass a primary care health act that

01:43:37.680 would guarantee every citizen's access to these much thank you ashley pierre quite frankly it's the

01:43:49.040 liberal government in ottawa that has denigrated our health care system to start with to start with

01:43:55.600 uh with the the out of control population growth of particularly the last five years our ratio of

01:44:03.040 patient to doctor is now worse than it's ever been we need to cap immigration to ensure that we can add

01:44:10.240 doctors and nurses faster than we add people second we need to grow our economy faster because our federal

01:44:16.160 health care transfer grows at the same rate as our economy and that means unleashing our resources

01:44:21.840 and lowering taxes and and uh making our economy stronger and third we have 20 000 immigrant doctors

01:44:28.400 32 000 immigrant nurses who cannot work because they can't get a license we have a red seal that's

01:44:34.800 already in place for the trades a national license for the licensed trades we should do the same thing

01:44:39.920 with a blue seal based on a high standard that immigrant doctors can take a test prove they're qualified

01:44:46.560 and get to work in our hospital thank you pierre we keep skipping ahead as we go on because i think

01:44:55.440 that we don't really need to hear all these people's opinions on all these issues like there are

01:44:59.600 three six not ten people on stage uh rook says for five bucks doug ford has been schizophrenic

01:45:06.880 schizophrenic recently one day he's blue the next he's red how can we get rid of this guy he seems

01:45:11.840 immoral yeah i can't stand doug ford in 2018 if he did what he said in that election he'd be a great

01:45:17.600 premier he is at best a mediocre premier at worst he's effectively just like kathleen winn um i i

01:45:25.200 always support the new blue party in ontario i literally flew out from alberta to kitchener b

01:45:30.480 uh ontario in order to hit as many doors for the new blue party as possible this last election

01:45:35.920 didn't do so well but obviously it was a snap election in the middle of the winter and they

01:45:40.080 weren't able to get a candidate on every single ballot but they were still able to score 1.6 percent

01:45:45.040 of the vote and even if they don't end up winning seats i think ontario is in a bad enough position

01:45:50.720 in terms of conservatism that you eventually need to just whack the party the doug ford pc party by

01:45:58.000 voting for a right-wing alternative and saying be more like these guys so even if they don't win

01:46:02.880 you're basically saying be like these people and maybe i'll consider voting for you next time but

01:46:08.240 the problem is people are scared into voting for pcs again like oh what ones that the liberal wins we

01:46:13.840 got to vote for ford it's like what are you talking about doug ford literally acts like a liberal not

01:46:20.240 like on a few cherry-picked moments he's done something very liberal i mean the taxes are higher

01:46:26.400 since he came in the spending is nearly as bad everything is worse or as bad when he got into

01:46:33.680 office and it's not because he's worse than kathleen winn he just continued the same policies which

01:46:39.120 means that the decline just kept getting worse so yeah uh anyway so let's we can get back to this

01:46:47.360 darcy it the people of battle river croppo and so it's from l i want at 8 30.

01:47:02.240 are they doing some

01:47:13.200 was that literally it provide these care portion

01:47:19.120 right so is this literally the end of it what the heck

01:47:23.600 okay thank you bonnie

01:47:29.920 so now we are going to take a 20 minute break and uh come back at 8 30. so um get up refresh

01:47:38.320 yourselves uh use the facilities uh you know have conversations amongst yourself and enjoy

01:47:46.560 okay well i guess we have to wait until it comes back to keep doing this

01:47:49.760 again maybe you guys don't want to do this but yeah we don't want to keep watching

01:47:58.320 veg uh veg is like saying is grant abraham still representing durham well yeah he's he's running a

01:48:04.080 few of the a few of the by uh by elections as as the leader i understand he runs that united uh

01:48:11.600 the you know united party of canada so i get that he ends up running in all the by elections that's

01:48:17.200 fine uh at the same time i don't really think he's attempting to even get votes because in every

01:48:23.360 single by election that i've seen the guy run in he comes like near the bottom of the ballot every

01:48:29.040 single time and when i say near the bottom it's like well he's a new party of course he's going

01:48:32.960 to come in near the bottom i mean like doesn't even scratch above a hundred votes which is difficult

01:48:39.760 to do you can't get a hundred people to vote for you if you go door to door long enough you

01:48:45.200 eventually have someone say i like the cut of your jib and then they check a box so that's always

01:48:49.920 also what annoys me when people hear candidates speaking at a forum and they'll be like oh that

01:48:54.240 i like that guy's answer better than pierre and they'll start like acting like pierre's not doing

01:48:58.320 well enough i'm like that guy doesn't need to actually win he's just coming here saying the

01:49:02.640 most red meat things he can say and then he's not going to do any campaigning

01:49:06.560 scotty says looks like more than one half the candidates aren't even conservative i'd actually

01:49:15.120 say it's probably more like a uh two two to two to one ratio i actually think most of the candidates

01:49:21.760 here are conservative like grant abrahams is generally conservative on the right uh mike harris is

01:49:28.720 the ppc guy is polyev is you have the chp guy who is so you have like five conservative guys and then i

01:49:36.240 guess the other people would be uh bon i guess it's 50 50 because you get bonnie on the left

01:49:41.040 the green guy liberal the the the independent next to polyev you get the ndp and so yeah it's like it's

01:49:49.200 like half and half uh michael james is how many are confirmed on the ballot now is this everyone oh

01:49:58.480 this is not everybody i can assure you michael uh the ballot so poor silly forgetful michael james

01:50:06.160 uh there are 214 candidates running uh but yeah so you have uh there's quite a few people on that

01:50:14.320 ballot out there uh they're just not actually giving people physical ballots because you can't

01:50:19.680 give people about with 214 names on it what they're doing is you just write down whoever you want to vote

01:50:25.120 for and in a writing where most people are going to be voting for polyev naturally it's basically

01:50:30.000 just going to be like polyp polyp polyp polyp polyp polyp polyp polyp polyp body of bonnie

01:50:34.800 polyp polyp polyp polyp darcy polyp polyp polyp polyp polyp polyp and then it's gonna be like

01:50:41.120 grand abraham and then you're just gonna like count out of a hundred ballots you're gonna count like 75

01:50:46.640 poly of ballots and then like 25 ballots for anybody else again because it's now being written so many of

01:50:54.320 of these longest ballot committee candidates aren't even going to get a single vote because

01:50:58.100 the reason they were getting votes in the previous by-elections was because when you're

01:51:02.300 given a vote sheet of 91 names, eventually some people with bad vision or people who

01:51:07.080 just vote out of obligation, but they don't really care who they vote for, they just circle

01:51:11.120 a name and they go.

01:51:11.980 And if anything, they're like, ah, the ballot's hilariously long and they just check one off

01:51:15.120 and they're like, I don't know who I voted for.

01:51:16.600 And then they run out.

01:51:17.480 You get like a good, like 1% of people in a riding who don't vote seriously.

01:51:21.280 And so you'll get a little bit of that.

01:51:25.160 Yes.

01:51:25.960 And Cy Sin says they allow misspellings if it's readable.

01:51:30.960 So if it's obviously not, like if it's between two candidates' names that you misspelled

01:51:36.280 and because they had like two similar last names and if it was like, if it was like Mike

01:51:42.280 Smith or Mike Smythe and you spelt it somewhere in between the S-M-Y-T-H version and S-M-I-T-H,

01:51:50.360 they'd probably just like shred the ballot.

01:51:53.440 But obviously I don't think that you'd need a ballot of like 10,000 candidates to have

01:51:58.100 people with that similar of a name.

01:52:02.320 Justin Joe, Wyatt, what's your favorite NES game that you've had on set?

01:52:06.460 It would be Battletoads because I have Battletoads in mint condition in box.

01:52:11.600 CHP is now gone?

01:52:17.420 Are you like up to speed?

01:52:19.380 I don't know, it's not even back yet.

01:52:20.740 I was wondering if you're back and like the guy just abandoned the, he just abandoned the

01:52:25.560 forum.

01:52:28.000 I have it, I have it live.

01:52:29.560 I just have the sound off in case it comes back.

01:52:35.420 You know what's actually stupid?

01:52:36.740 What's really stupid is that you can't write down the party's name.

01:52:41.580 Why not?

01:52:42.920 If you're voting conservative, you want to vote for the conservative.

01:52:45.600 They can't say, well, it's not, how do we know he doesn't just mean they want to vote

01:52:50.000 for a conservative-like candidate.

01:52:51.680 It's like, guys, if you're saying conservative party, I think we all know you mean Polyev.

01:52:55.640 If you say NDP, you mean the NDP person.

01:52:58.440 If you say CHP, you mean the CHP person.

01:53:01.620 If you say libertarian, you mean Michael Harris.

01:53:03.880 Everyone kind of gets that.

01:53:06.140 Rook for five bucks says, any strategies for defunding the CNC?

01:53:10.120 Is it just vote for Pierre or are these citizens initiatives that can be done?

01:53:15.960 I think you, I assume you mean the CBC, unless you meant the candidate nomination committee

01:53:21.300 that takes place in all the nominations for the conservative party.

01:53:25.980 I would say the strategy, I don't think you can defund it in the short term.

01:53:30.220 If anything, the CBC is probably riding high right now in terms of its approval, simply

01:53:35.700 because people like the CBC or pretend to like the CBC because Trump's bad.

01:53:41.040 And for some reason, that means you have to like terrible CBC sitcoms and terrible news

01:53:45.080 reporting.

01:53:45.960 But whatever.

01:53:48.100 Best thing that could happen in terms of getting the CBC defunded these days is simply just

01:53:54.220 putting a lot of attention on this Travis Dunraj situation.

01:53:59.580 Travis Dunraj, the former CBC host, I think that that guy speaking out about the CBC and

01:54:06.240 all the bias, if that's becoming more widely known, I think you're going to take a lot of

01:54:10.880 the shine off of the CBC for the average voter.

01:54:13.880 And that's going to become not just something that doesn't turn voters off to defund the CBC.

01:54:18.600 It actually may motivate them if they understand how badly their money is being used at the

01:54:22.720 CBC.

01:54:26.100 Third Tooth says, can you beat that one part in Battle Toads with the jet skis?

01:54:29.860 I can beat that part.

01:54:31.360 I eventually have done it before.

01:54:32.960 You're not even wrong here, riffraff.

01:54:46.020 Dang, time to go out night-night.

01:54:47.720 Gotta work until I claim refugee status in Canada.

01:54:51.760 Quote, I left because orange man bad.

01:54:53.900 Unquote.

01:54:54.360 I bet they'd buy it.

01:54:55.480 You're not even wrong.

01:54:56.460 There is a non-binary person in Ontario who a judge ruled does not have to be deported

01:55:02.400 to the United States despite way overstaying the visitor period to be in Canada because

01:55:07.940 they fear for their life as a non-binary person in Donald Trump's America.

01:55:11.360 That is how shallow that ruling was.

01:55:20.740 Third Tooth says, is there any point to sending an email to CPC HQ telling them I'm not giving

01:55:25.640 them another dime until they clean house?

01:55:27.440 I think that does honestly get noticed if you're very specific saying, I want these things

01:55:33.520 done and then I'll donate.

01:55:35.660 If other people were doing the same thing, they would start to pick up on a trend if like

01:55:39.720 a few hundred people said that.

01:55:41.460 That probably represents a lot more people who think that but just didn't send the email

01:55:45.220 in.

01:55:49.360 But yeah.

01:55:57.440 JRW says, CTV is worse now, these over CBC, lol.

01:56:02.340 I assume you mean like the CBC is worse or CTV News is worse in their coverage.

01:56:07.240 Yeah, I'd agree.

01:56:08.320 They're more biased to the left.

01:56:09.800 But the problem with the CBC is I find the CBC is better at pretending to be neutral.

01:56:14.440 So even though they are less overtly to the left, they're also better at convincing people

01:56:19.820 they're not on the left when they absolutely are.

01:56:23.140 Looks like we are going to have the forum coming back in a second here.

01:56:28.320 It would have been nice if we, again, we could have actually had some debate on the

01:56:31.740 stage.

01:56:32.080 That would have been more interesting.

01:56:39.460 Farrah Sterling says, worst liberal, Bonnie Crickley or Rosemary Barton?

01:56:43.440 That's an easy one.

01:56:44.420 It's Rosemary Barton all the way.

01:56:45.740 She's easily the worst.

01:56:54.780 Yeah.

01:56:57.440 Scotty says, why is it so easy for the liberals to just ignore big issues and watch them go away?

01:57:19.960 Uh, I don't know what you mean by like so easy for them to ignore big issues.

01:57:28.040 Maybe you mean like scandals.

01:57:29.740 Anytime that you're caught with a scandal, they can kind of just wait it out and eventually

01:57:33.380 the media coverage goes away.

01:57:35.040 And I think it's because a lot of people in the media, if that's what you mean, kind of

01:57:38.520 want them to get away with it.

01:57:39.740 So they're perfectly fine.

01:57:43.480 Volta says, Polyev, the career politician.

01:57:45.840 To comments like this, I always just say, okay, and it doesn't really matter.

01:57:55.760 Is the guy doing the right things in office or is he not?

01:57:58.500 And I have criticisms of Polyev.

01:58:00.800 Obviously, you're going to have criticisms of any politician, even if you agree with him

01:58:04.400 on a lot of issues.

01:58:05.180 I thought he ran too soft of a federal campaign.

01:58:08.060 And that's why he lost.

01:58:09.800 He kind of got, basically the campaign started becoming about, oh, Polyev is too much like

01:58:15.100 Trump.

01:58:15.480 And that's why a lot of like older liberal people ended up really showing up to vote

01:58:20.280 liberal because they were scared of Trump and Polyev is like Trump, which is silly because

01:58:24.160 he actually ran a very soft campaign.

01:58:25.780 And obviously, no, he is not.

01:58:27.560 And also, like, again, who's still better on the policies?

01:58:31.020 But Polyev ended up not saying anything interesting enough in the election.

01:58:34.620 So the election started being about things other than his ideas, which isn't a good

01:58:38.820 thing for the Conservative Party.

01:58:40.080 If you're advocating for a change in government, you need to advocate for a big change, not

01:58:44.380 a little change.

01:58:48.540 Mason Guy says, why, how come every time we have a political event, especially with

01:58:52.600 Conservatives, they never open it up, open with our anthem?

01:58:56.700 Why the native land trash first?

01:58:58.680 Well, this isn't a Conservative event, to be fair.

01:59:00.900 And to be fair, even at Conservative events, I don't really hear them ever doing land

01:59:05.200 acknowledgements.

01:59:07.420 And, you know, people don't always open up the anthem just because, you know, time allotments

01:59:11.800 and I don't know, it depends.

01:59:14.720 This isn't a Conservative event.

01:59:16.300 I think maybe they should start with the anthem.

01:59:18.860 Really, I think they should just get along with the events most of the time.

01:59:21.220 Yeah, and that's what I mean.

01:59:30.020 Mike Perdue says it.

01:59:31.080 Exactly.

01:59:31.680 There's good and bad, career politician or not.

01:59:34.460 But let's get back onto the stage.

01:59:37.000 Seems like they just forgot to turn the camera back on and now it's back.

01:59:39.920 Like, if you're a representative of this riding, Damien got, what, 84, 85 percent?

01:59:45.920 So there's about 16 percent didn't vote for the Conservatives.

01:59:51.520 Yeah, it's an amazing thing to get that many votes.

01:59:54.220 But those 16 percent of you that didn't vote for them were ignored.

01:59:58.980 You have no say for the next upwards of four years.

02:00:01.980 So I believe we do need to reform the system so that people's votes actually matter.

02:00:06.120 As for the type of system that I would implement, that would have to be studied, analyzed,

02:00:11.160 look to see what the most fair and comprehensive system is

02:00:13.600 so that everybody's vote can count as much as possible.

02:00:16.980 We don't want to leave anybody out of the democratic process

02:00:19.860 so they feel that their voice is ignored and people stop it.

02:00:25.680 Thank you, Ashley.

02:00:27.280 Pierre.

02:00:28.300 Well, first of all, this longest ballot thing is a total scam and it must be stopped.

02:00:36.120 I'm the only leader that this interest group seems to have targeted for some reason

02:00:42.460 and that I find interesting, but it is a total scam

02:00:46.840 and there is no good public interest reason to do it.

02:00:50.780 I think anybody should be allowed to run, but they should have to get unique signatures

02:00:54.560 and they should have a unique financial agent.

02:00:57.260 If you did that, you'd guarantee this would never happen again.

02:00:59.840 God willing, if I have your support and I get to Parliament,

02:01:03.820 I will put forward legislative changes to make sure that this never happens again

02:01:08.060 anywhere in Canada.

02:01:13.700 And speaking of accountability, we need to build on Stephen Harper's Accountability Act

02:01:18.420 to crack down on the loopholes that Liberals, including Mark Carney, have exploited.

02:01:23.220 We need to ensure that our leaders are working for you and not for their private profit.

02:01:27.240 Thank you.

02:01:29.840 It seems like they turned the mics up, which is nice.

02:01:33.560 Thank you, Pierre.

02:01:34.760 Darcy.

02:01:36.240 My comments are similar on the longest ballot.

02:01:38.820 I think it's been quite problematic.

02:01:41.360 And I think especially people who have difficulty initially when the ballot was going to be very long

02:01:46.760 in physical length would be just difficulty handling it.

02:01:49.740 And now that it's different, it's going to be a pain and it confuses everything.

02:01:56.720 And I do not think it has a place, but it is put together as part of our system.

02:02:03.560 So I will just say I don't like it.

02:02:05.060 And I would like that we should, I think we should try and change it.

02:02:08.280 As far as being a Canadian and as far as our system and the workability in the world,

02:02:12.900 I had the privilege as international president of the Society of Petroleum Engineers of traveling

02:02:17.740 in that term of three years to 49 different countries.

02:02:20.820 And my pride grew with every country because there are so many places that have systems

02:02:26.480 that don't work, systems that are corrupt.

02:02:29.040 So I stand here as a proud Canadian and I'm proud of our prime minister and I'm proud of

02:02:33.400 our system.

02:02:34.000 And it works generally and I would love to...

02:02:37.140 Thank you, Darcy.

02:02:41.660 Sarah.

02:02:43.140 I have said many times that I think protest in healthy protest is a good idea, but the

02:02:50.740 way the longest ballot is going about it is not okay.

02:02:53.500 You know, they've kind of hindered us here.

02:02:55.440 And I do agree that we should have electoral reform.

02:02:58.460 And I do agree with Ashley when saying that it is something that needs to be studied.

02:03:02.260 It is something that we need to ensure that everybody is getting a...

02:03:06.460 They feel like their voice is heard.

02:03:08.480 And it's unfortunate that this is where we're at, but we, you know, we're Albertans.

02:03:14.480 We're tough.

02:03:15.020 We can get over this.

02:03:17.180 We can write a name.

02:03:18.600 Nobody thinks we can and I know we can.

02:03:21.020 So please, please go find the name that you want.

02:03:23.240 Please write it down.

02:03:24.260 My last name is spelled S-P-A-N-I-E-R.

02:03:26.940 Thank you.

02:03:30.220 Thank you, Sarah.

02:03:31.380 Catherine.

02:03:32.260 Electoral reform is exactly what the longest ballot wanted.

02:03:38.520 So the fact that everybody here is talking about electoral reform means that their form

02:03:43.820 of protest is in fact working.

02:03:47.040 They...

02:03:47.280 No, we're talking about how to stop them.

02:03:50.220 Nobody's talking about the merits of proportional representation.

02:03:53.560 They're talking about how the people pushing it are idiots and that we need to prevent people

02:03:57.440 from signing signatures for phantom candidates that aren't actually running yet.

02:04:01.900 That's the problem.

02:04:02.700 They actually didn't just start neither.

02:04:05.580 They were doing this since 2021.

02:04:08.600 So it's interesting.

02:04:10.500 And, you know, they are targeting Pierre because he's, sorry, but almost a circus.

02:04:19.980 Look at the stuff going on around him.

02:04:24.820 They know it's going to cause an uprising and they want people to speak out about it.

02:04:32.980 About what?

02:04:34.120 What are people saying about proportional representation or any other electoral system?

02:04:38.820 Other than saying these people are idiots, let's stop them.

02:04:42.820 And I heard she's trying to get a jab in there because that's the only way she's going to be

02:04:45.880 relevant in this debate.

02:04:47.060 She's going to get freaking like five votes.

02:04:49.020 So if that's what they're looking for, is that attention, that's exactly what you're giving them.

02:04:56.440 So electoral reform, having that happen, you're giving them what they want.

02:05:07.440 Thank you, Catherine.

02:05:11.280 Jeff.

02:05:12.420 Thank you.

02:05:13.560 I misspoke earlier.

02:05:14.760 I said there was a bill discussed in Parliament about proportional representation.

02:05:19.540 Actually, it was a motion to talk about proportional representation, not a bill on the subject.

02:05:25.300 And again, all but three Tory MPs and the Liberals voted against it.

02:05:31.320 So first past the post works for the major parties because, of course, they benefit from the system.

02:05:36.940 They're not interested in looking at alternatives.

02:05:38.320 If we had proportional representation in this country, a small party like the Christian Harris Party

02:05:43.700 ran 343 candidates across the country and got, say, 2% of the vote, we'd have 2% of the seats.

02:05:50.540 And we'd have a voice in front of you who care about the...

02:05:53.480 He has to be careful, though, because a lot of people who propose proportional representation

02:05:58.000 put in arbitrary barriers.

02:05:59.720 Like, you have to get 5% of the vote before you get any seats to end up preventing people like that

02:06:04.320 from getting in.

02:06:04.860 The people who promote proportional representation tend to be pretty dishonest because they more

02:06:10.220 so just support minor parties in Canada that can win some seats, but they want more.

02:06:14.500 But then they put barriers in place to prevent smaller third parties from also benefiting

02:06:18.520 because that would reduce how much it helps them out.

02:06:21.200 Social issues that we are concerned about and other issues would have a voice in Parliament.

02:06:26.900 And I think it would be a fine thing.

02:06:29.680 And I am ashamed of the Tories and others who voted against it.

02:06:33.760 Thank you.

02:06:36.400 Thank you, Jeff.

02:06:37.660 Grant.

02:06:39.040 We need electoral reform.

02:06:40.740 We need to tidy up the system.

02:06:42.180 But the reality is in Western Canada, even if we had the tightest voting system in the world,

02:06:47.520 we have to recognize that Western Canada was set up as a colony of a colony.

02:06:52.860 The disproportionality of senators and or MP seats in this country, the way it was set up from 1867.

02:07:02.420 I was going to kind of stop this.

02:07:03.920 I just don't really care to engage with it as much.

02:07:06.280 I also just got to get back to some of this.

02:07:08.500 Graham says for five bucks, longest ballot initiative should target the next Iranian presidential election

02:07:14.400 if the regime survives.

02:07:16.200 If you guys don't know, the presidential election in Iran is effectively a selection

02:07:20.440 where the Ayatollah just picks whoever he wants.

02:07:23.500 And then they run a fake race between someone who's crazy and someone who's even more crazy.

02:07:28.380 Nectarine for $7 says conservatives would have won the election if they didn't talk about life sentences.

02:07:34.140 It was a dark cloud over a sunny campaign.

02:07:37.280 Would have won if they didn't talk about life sentences.

02:07:39.580 For criminals, I really don't think that hurt them at all.

02:07:42.260 In fact, I think the life sentence stance that Polly have had for not allowing people to serve certain types of criminal sentences concurrently,

02:07:51.840 and they have to do them consecutively, I think that was a big vote winner.

02:07:55.500 Why do you think the conservatives did really well with Asian voters?

02:07:59.220 Asian voters in Canada are tough on crime voters.

02:08:02.460 They don't like drugs in their community.

02:08:04.480 And the conservatives ended up making big inroads where there was a lot, both South Asian and East Asian voters.

02:08:10.740 Places like Richmond, places like Surrey, places like Vaughn, some of those other areas of like the north of the GTA.

02:08:20.560 The conservatives did really well in those places because of the tough law and order stances.

02:08:23.980 If anything, I think that Polly have three strike policy when it came to some criminal offenses should have been turned into a one strike policy.

02:08:30.420 If you're caught dealing fentanyl once, you obviously should go, you should be put in prison for like three years on your first offense on fentanyl.

02:08:39.320 Because dealing fentanyl once could kill tons of people.

02:08:42.640 All the questions that come into them do get addressed.

02:08:47.960 Thank you, Jonathan.

02:08:49.360 Bonnie.

02:08:49.680 So once again, I noticed Mr. Polly have skirted the question.

02:08:57.440 There, he said nothing on electoral reform and was angry at the longest ballot.

02:09:01.260 Granted, we all are angry at the longest ballot, yeah?

02:09:05.240 Yeah, I thought so.

02:09:07.520 But no, it benefits.

02:09:09.080 Our current...

02:09:09.600 You can't do the yeah, I thought so.

02:09:11.260 And a bunch of other people have already condemned it and gotten applause.

02:09:14.060 It's like, oh, what does the room think?

02:09:16.080 It's like five other people already did what does the room think stuff.

02:09:19.140 But Rook says for five bucks, the irony is that the longest ballot crushes lesser-known candidates.

02:09:23.720 Well, no names like Pierre Polyev have an advantage.

02:09:25.900 And absolutely, that's why Michael Harris has been speaking out about it a lot as a libertarian candidate.

02:09:31.820 Because, well, how, why would, nobody even wants to listen to him.

02:09:35.000 Because they almost get sick of anyone but the major candidates in the race.

02:09:38.820 The system benefits the two big parties.

02:09:41.300 I very much want to see electoral reform.

02:09:44.280 I am currently looking into proportional representation.

02:09:46.600 I am emailing people.

02:09:48.680 It is not on my platform as of yet because I don't know the ins and outs.

02:09:53.520 We need it.

02:09:55.500 You're not going to give it to us.

02:09:57.120 Liberals aren't going to give it to us.

02:09:59.320 We need it.

02:10:03.780 Thank you, Bonnie.

02:10:04.880 Michael.

02:10:05.240 First of all, I would like to point out a previous comment on the last panel that we had that Ashley admitted that healthcare workers would get paid more under a private system than our public system.

02:10:16.200 So I just want to point that out.

02:10:17.820 Number two, I refuse to give any more attention to the longest ballot people because, honestly, they're doing this for attention.

02:10:24.920 This isn't a protest.

02:10:26.080 They're asking for attention.

02:10:27.260 If anybody knows any of those names on those ballots, I recognize four of them.

02:10:30.740 They're being supported by the Rhino Party of Canada.

02:10:33.460 They're a joke.

02:10:34.180 This isn't a protest.

02:10:35.760 And in my opinion, for electoral reform, the Liberal government has been promising for over 10 years that they were going to offer us electoral reform and remove the first-past-the-post system.

02:10:45.900 I don't know where that's going.

02:10:48.360 We're still stuck with it.

02:10:49.900 In my opinion, we need to focus and push towards a ranked ballot system.

02:10:55.100 And that would be what I'd be fighting for.

02:10:56.560 Thank you.

02:10:58.260 That's where I have to hard disagree with Michael.

02:11:00.800 Ranked ballot is so bad.

02:11:02.180 What it ends up doing is you have the worst compromise candidates ever because it's not going to advantage any of the small candidates.

02:11:09.640 They're all going to get, like, 1% of the vote, 2% of the vote still.

02:11:12.580 But they all get to transfer to another party afterwards.

02:11:15.400 I guess the idea is that you're less scared of voting for one of the small parties first because you can rank the more major party after that.

02:11:22.960 But still, what you're going to end up getting is that NDP voters put the Liberals second every time.

02:11:28.940 Even though they don't even like the Liberals, we're now in this stupid phase where the Conservative could get 43% of the vote in a riding and the Liberal could have 35% of the vote or 34%, 32%.

02:11:41.780 And if the NDP had, like, 22% of the vote, they can just throw it over to the Liberal.

02:11:46.580 The Greens will throw their votes over to the NDP and then they'll throw them over to the Liberal after that because they'll just vote for whoever's better than the others, which means that your representatives end up being these insane compromise candidates that not that many people actually voted for at all.

02:12:01.960 Like, even fewer than in the first past the post system wanted this individual and a lot of other people, like, begrudgingly voted for them.

02:12:11.420 And when you begrudgingly voted for someone as your third or fourth choice, you're probably less likely to want to engage with them and whatnot.

02:12:18.120 So why is, like, the 42% of the voters have to, like, give way to what is, like, you know, maybe 50% of the vote, but of people who all only maybe kind of wanted the person who ends up eventually winning?

02:12:32.920 That's why I don't like ranked choice voting.

02:12:35.360 It's fine inside of a party when everyone presumably agrees on most of the issues, and now we're just, we're, like, we're, like, voting for people on a ranked ballot based on small differences between what their priorities are, someone more of a social conservative, someone more of a social liberal, but they're still all fiscal conservatives.

02:12:53.320 That's a better ranked ballot, but you can have a ranked ballot between very different parties.

02:12:57.440 Thank you, Michael.

02:12:58.720 So this next question will start with you, Pierre.

02:13:01.660 It's around agriculture and rural development.

02:13:04.060 So how will you support farmers and rural communities in adapting to the growing impacts of climate change, such as droughts, wildfires, and extreme weather, while also promoting sustainable agricultural practices, rural infrastructure, and rural economic development?

02:13:22.820 Well, there's a lot in that question.

02:13:25.100 Let's start with infrastructure.

02:13:26.500 I was very pleased to meet with the special areas, Oyen and special areas representatives who are working on getting a direct train route that would allow produce to go through Camrose straight to the west coast rather than having to go all the way east to Saskatoon.

02:13:45.500 Right now, farmers from the area have to add 600 kilometres of extra transit in the wrong direction in order to get to the west coast and ship to world markets.

02:13:57.920 And I will hope to work with the region to try and get that short line track completed.

02:14:04.740 I know that Damien has done great work on it.

02:14:06.820 We also need to do other things.

02:14:08.300 We need to get rid of the liberal regulations that are cracking down on our farmers.

02:14:12.000 Get rid of the industrial carbon tax that's driving up the cost of fertilizer in this country.

02:14:18.600 We need to respect the firearms rights of our farmers and allow them to use.

02:14:28.640 Thank you, Pierre.

02:14:31.760 Darcy.

02:14:37.860 Speaking of fertilizer, I dream of the day when fertilizer will be less than $1,200 a ton and canola will be more than $700 a ton.

02:14:45.420 Okay, I don't feel like I need to listen to this.

02:14:47.640 Okay, anyways.

02:14:49.160 A lot of this is, you know, not exactly super interesting at this point just because it's a lot of the same issues being talked about over and over again by, like, you know, people who have very generic opinions on it.

02:15:00.600 Yes, you're right, Greg.

02:15:01.940 That is not 200 people because most of the candidates are fake and obviously not going to show up to a forum.

02:15:13.100 Oh, what else do we got going on?

02:15:14.840 Yeah, I do agree.

02:15:18.040 Prairie, with Prairie, all Canadian gun rights, not just farmers.

02:15:21.240 Sometimes I like the way that people, like, talk about, well, you know, farmers need guns and they're already hedging as if the idea is, well, normal people don't, but farmers do.

02:15:29.500 Like, I think anyone's allowed to own a gun if they actually can pass a test, you know, a basic safety test.

02:15:34.700 You know what you're doing.

02:15:35.540 That's fine.

02:15:36.040 If anything, it gives people responsibilities and it makes them less likely to commit a crime.

02:15:50.440 Oh, is there anything going on now?

02:15:55.020 I don't, I don't want anybody to think I'm here wanting to raise taxes or anything, but.

02:16:01.360 Oh yeah, you're going to get into government.

02:16:03.000 You're going to start raising taxes all over the place.

02:16:04.980 Rook for $5 says, opposition candidates hammer a visibly nervous poly of, that's my guess for the media spin tomorrow.

02:16:17.500 I guarantee somebody is going to cover some of, of, of the NDP ladies' comments and Bonnie's comments talking about Pierre and be like, oh, they showed him.

02:16:28.520 And it's like, okay, sure.

02:16:31.100 One of them called, called him a clown or said he's a circus.

02:16:34.520 And then Bonnie said, oh, I don't think Polly understands this or that.

02:16:38.740 I don't even remember what her point was.

02:16:40.180 And it was said like a few minutes ago.

02:16:42.220 Is she trying to jab him again?

02:16:43.480 Agriculture, the, many of the farmers that I've gone out to speak to, they're not looking to be at a forum and they're not looking to come out and speak.

02:16:53.760 Most of them born and raised conservative.

02:16:56.040 There's no changing that they're going to be the way they are.

02:16:59.280 But they did let me know some of the areas that they needed help.

02:17:04.020 They're, they're lacking in hands working on their farms.

02:17:07.580 They're all coming together and working together.

02:17:09.720 They're, uh, and they're aging and they need people to come and help them.

02:17:14.940 Um, immigration could help, you know, Trump's getting rid of all his, uh, his people working on his agriculture.

02:17:22.400 We'll take them, send them our way.

02:17:24.460 We'll put them in our farms.

02:17:25.660 They can help us.

02:17:26.540 Do you know how you can actually help farmers?

02:17:29.700 Lower taxes.

02:17:30.720 Like the reason why farmers are often looking for cheaper labor is because their taxes are so high.

02:17:36.220 They are forced to look for as cheap labor as humanly possible.

02:17:40.360 When, if they had the lower taxes, they would just hire a lot more local people at the higher wages that those people would be expecting.

02:17:47.540 Because it's what you need to live on to actually be able to buy a home.

02:17:51.160 TFWs don't require as much money because they're just trying to stock away money for when they eventually return to a country where those dollars go far further.

02:17:58.300 They're recommending 50.

02:18:00.240 The liberals said they wouldn't go past that, but of course they went past like it was standing still.

02:18:05.660 But, um, we, um, need to, and another thing is the price of not just carbon, but nitrogen in the fertilizer.

02:18:17.200 They're, they're trying to restrict farmers, liberals and governments are trying to restrict farmers' ability to grow crops, et cetera, et cetera.

02:18:24.440 And all this needs to change.

02:18:26.540 We need to eliminate, not just reduce carbon taxes to $30 a ton, like the liberals have.

02:18:37.220 Thank you, Jeff.

02:18:38.540 Grant.

02:18:40.860 Well, this is a great conversation.

02:18:43.140 You know what?

02:18:43.800 Uh, we need to look at, uh, farmers and China and, uh, the tariffs that we're paying for canola and get those stripped down.

02:18:50.460 But why can't we do that because this nation is riddled with foreign interference?

02:18:56.400 Uh, David McGinty in 2020 made a very clear report about that.

02:19:00.380 Ample evidence of severe and sustained foreign interference that's undermining our political process and democracy.

02:19:07.540 Yet, we have a leader of a political party here to my left who will not attain his clearance, security clearance.

02:19:16.500 Hey, that's the truth.

02:19:18.120 He won't attain his security clearance.

02:19:20.100 This is why Grant Abraham annoys me.

02:19:22.980 He will take a leftist talking point against Polyev.

02:19:25.600 That's not even true.

02:19:27.540 He's not taking the security clearance because he couldn't talk about the issue even if he got it.

02:19:31.380 And then they would basically look into every single person you've ever met in your life to try and, like, find issues, red flag you for nonsense.

02:19:39.260 That's why he doesn't do it.

02:19:40.040 But Grant will find things that are not real jabs on Polyev because he just needs a jab.

02:19:45.500 If you're willing to swing at someone on something dishonest, you start to make me not think that you should be a representative of anything.

02:19:52.240 I'll maybe go back a little bit because he's pointing and stuff a lot.

02:19:55.440 Maybe this is interesting.

02:19:57.360 Security clearance.

02:19:59.200 Hey, that's the truth.

02:20:00.540 He won't attain his security clearance to actually tell you who the 11 MPs were that you were put in front of to vote.

02:20:10.700 So would I get some more time for that?

02:20:13.240 Yeah, so I'm going to say that you could have 15 more seconds.

02:20:16.240 Okay, thank you very much.

02:20:17.380 And I appreciate that because we had 11 MPs in this federal election that were the direct agents of or under the influence of foreign interference.

02:20:25.540 And you weren't told.

02:20:27.240 And why can't we actually deal with foreign governments that are influencing us?

02:20:30.980 Because our loyal opposition won't tell us.

02:20:33.820 Thank you very much, Mr. Polyev.

02:20:36.620 He wouldn't have been able to talk about it legally if he went through the security clearance to find it out.

02:20:41.880 And Trudeau knew who these people were.

02:20:43.860 Carney presumably did.

02:20:45.360 Jagmeet went through the process.

02:20:46.640 And he even came out and said, yeah, I can't say who they are.

02:20:49.700 And then Elizabeth May contradicted what Jagmeet said.

02:20:51.980 Oh, there was nobody involved in foreign interference.

02:20:54.840 And then the Hogue report came out that was a complete, effectively stonewalling of the issue, saying, oh, yeah, some people messed up.

02:21:01.560 We're not going to name them.

02:21:02.880 And, yes, they kept engaging with Chinese Communist Party front groups.

02:21:06.460 And they kept engaging with IRGC front groups and all this other stuff.

02:21:10.720 But they were doing so unintentionally.

02:21:13.220 Like, how do you unintentionally deal with a front group of a foreign government who's obviously lobbying you or trying to convince you on things that are obviously in the interest of Beijing or in the interest of Tehran or something like that?

02:21:26.200 How do you not figure that out after a little while as somebody who's an MP?

02:21:30.940 These people are not that dumb.

02:21:32.760 And the Hogue report basically said our MPs are stupider than you think.

02:21:36.100 And a lot of these people are dumb, but they're not that dumb.

02:21:39.700 I think people know what a CCP front group is.

02:21:42.080 Bonnie.

02:21:44.560 When I was running around, knocking on doors, did one quick tour of the riding, and then I'm taking my time going around again, one of the things that came up was agricultural innovation.

02:21:55.040 Our successive federal governments, both parties, have sold off our innovation to big corporations.

02:22:05.780 These corporations now charge our farmers royalties for seed, or they will sue your neighbor if your seed blows over into his field.

02:22:15.880 This has got to stop.

02:22:18.020 I intend to fully stand up for my neighbors.

02:22:21.720 And if you tell me that agricultural innovation is the private member's bill you want me to put forward, that's what I will do.

02:22:28.600 Because this has to come back to you.

02:22:32.380 It's curious that nobody clapped for that, because nobody else made that point yet.

02:22:36.360 And the fact that nobody really clapped for that, I wonder, because, again, maybe you're a farmer,

02:22:42.020 and you can tell me that that's a super common thing, that large corporations who have genetically modified seeds for specific crops,

02:22:50.860 and they're suing farmers because that seed blows into their field, and it starts growing in their field, too.

02:22:58.900 I've never heard a farmer or anyone ever say that that was a thing.

02:23:03.940 But I remember there was, like, a John Oliver episode about that from, like, a decade ago.

02:23:08.860 And I'm wondering if that's where she got that from.

02:23:11.140 And so she brought it up.

02:23:12.020 Because the fact that nobody really clapped for that probably means a lot of people didn't know what she was talking about.

02:23:19.360 Like, I've heard of that, but it's not, like, this widespread thing.

02:23:21.940 And I was hearing it was, like, a thing in the United States in, like, the 2010s.

02:23:27.860 History buffs in this room right now.

02:23:30.360 Does anybody know anything about the Goss plan, by any chance, in the Soviet Union?

02:23:34.600 It was a plan of centralized economy that was regulating the Soviet Union.

02:23:39.240 And we have our very own Goss plan here in Canada called supply management.

02:23:43.860 And it is limiting the amount of produce of milk, poultry, eggs, all of that, of all of the above, every single month.

02:23:52.840 And if you go over that quota, well, it's got to go in the garbage.

02:23:55.720 I've been going around talking to a lot of farmers in Drumheller, Acme, and Three Hills,

02:24:00.100 where they have to dump hundreds of liters of milk every single month because of this policy.

02:24:05.800 I'm the only candidate that's on this stage saying that we need to end the policy of supply management now.

02:24:10.400 Not later. We need to end it now.

02:24:12.420 Thank you.

02:24:13.860 Thank you, Michael.

02:24:17.600 Ashley.

02:24:19.460 Okay.

02:24:23.200 So the Green Party of Canada platform effectively states that, and as we all know,

02:24:27.860 Canadians need good, healthy, nutritious food that isn't absurdly expensive,

02:24:33.120 that makes it to the point that we can't feed our families.

02:24:35.520 We have to choose which meals, who gets what meal, what meal we have to skip, and so on.

02:24:40.740 You know, the Green Plan is to strengthen agriculture and food security, and that is built on the idea that we must strengthen and increase local and regional food production.

02:24:50.660 We need to give, you know, Bonnie touched on it with big corporations buying up large tracts of land.

02:24:57.740 And for me, family farms need to actually be run by families, not by a family that runs a corporation and that can claim that it's a family farm and get all these tax breaks and then screw over the small farmers.

02:25:08.760 We need an actual system that serves the people, not these big corporations.

02:25:13.940 So we need to create regional food hubs that can better supply the people of this country.

02:25:21.480 Thank you, Ashley.

02:25:22.620 So this will be our final question of the evening, and Darcy, we're going to start with you.

02:25:29.080 So around education and workforce development, student loans are a giant financial burden to young Canadians,

02:25:36.280 but education is required for even basic jobs.

02:25:40.040 Given restrictions on international students and a lack of university funding,

02:25:44.700 how will you ensure Canadians can access affordable, top-tier educations without drowning in debt?

02:25:50.400 Good question.

02:25:52.600 We do have one of the best educational systems on earth, and I'm very proud of it.

02:25:56.800 And I'm very proud to be a rural student of that educational system.

02:26:02.100 A ragtag bunch of us would leave Three Hills Sunday night and head up to U of A,

02:26:07.580 and we'd generally regroup at the end of the week and head back to Three Hills.

02:26:11.640 There wasn't much support from us.

02:26:13.940 And I think we've seen some tremendous movements over the last number of years.

02:26:18.160 I think we need a federal government that supports education across the board.

02:26:23.420 We need to support our institutions, even though I realize that in cases it's a provincial jurisdiction.

02:26:28.200 We need to support skilled trades.

02:26:30.340 With the Build Canada program, we need more tradespeople.

02:26:33.720 We need competent tradespeople to be operators on oil and gas wells.

02:26:38.220 We need to be educated at every level.

02:26:42.340 And we have the best system.

02:26:44.720 We need to keep and maintain the best system.

02:26:46.840 Summer job programs, a federal responsibility, that has to keep going.

02:26:51.800 So I think the...

02:26:54.860 Thank you, Darcy.

02:26:56.780 Sarah?

02:26:58.140 We all know education is a provincial issue,

02:27:01.020 but that doesn't mean that the federal government can't step in and do something.

02:27:05.420 I feel like I can skip ahead on this, and you guys aren't going to be too mad about it.

02:27:12.340 Is Grant Abraham going to take weird shots at Polyev again?

02:27:15.680 Immigration?

02:27:16.360 That don't make any sense?

02:27:17.540 We're not exactly sure what happens after the educational visa requires.

02:27:21.600 So it's intertwined.

02:27:22.880 We need to get our country's tertiary, second and third level institutions back to actually the jobs,

02:27:30.820 job creation that we need to develop the infrastructure that we have offshored

02:27:35.380 in these last 40 years in terms of a globalist agenda for this nation.

02:27:40.160 And we start building things, making things, smelting things.

02:27:44.040 Again, we will actually be the wealth, create the wealth that our parents and our grandparents...

02:27:49.200 Yeah, I'm just going to skip this.

02:27:50.780 But someone is saying is, please tell me Pierre will win.

02:27:53.540 Pierre is easily going to win this thing.

02:27:55.220 You can even just tell from the audience in the room.

02:27:57.960 There's like a small collection of people who will clap for other candidates, but it's pretty much just Polyev.

02:28:03.400 And there's probably some people who like Polyev who will even clap for the other guys on the right who,

02:28:07.260 if they say something they agree with.

02:28:08.360 Give our youth the experience they need for the future.

02:28:13.200 Thank you, Bonnie.

02:28:14.320 Michael?

02:28:15.440 First of all, I'd like to give a shout out to the University of Calgary and my fellow students that are watching this live stream.

02:28:20.380 First of all, I just want to say, do not be fooled.

02:28:24.400 The issues that we are facing in this province due to education are completely the result of our premier

02:28:29.640 and the provincial government here in Alberta.

02:28:32.740 We need to see more support for students.

02:28:35.080 I, as a member and student of the University of Calgary, I see a lot of corruption in our student boards,

02:28:41.720 for our teachers, our professors, where they are taking massive bonuses every single year,

02:28:47.200 which almost doubles their income.

02:28:49.180 While students are struggling to get by and to be able to pay for their education.

02:28:53.640 All the while, we have a government that is disavowing the ability for people to homeschool,

02:28:59.620 for people to be able to learn their trades.

02:29:02.040 And as Johnny was saying, we are pushing people that you, to get a good job, you have to go to university.

02:29:07.040 That is not true.

02:29:08.380 Good paying jobs in this province are from trade jobs, not from university jobs.

02:29:12.640 Let's get more people into trade jobs, please.

02:29:14.280 Thank you.

02:29:16.640 Thank you, Michael.

02:29:17.840 Ashley?

02:29:19.180 Okay.

02:29:23.140 So every time it gets back to him, it's like people are laughing because they're low energy.

02:29:27.040 And the proper investment and the proper structuring of the programs is very important.

02:29:31.240 We need to look at the jobs of the future, not the jobs of the past.

02:29:35.460 We need to be training people, educating people to meet the demands of the future.

02:29:40.120 I know that people who denigrate a gender studies degree, a history degree, vote culture, commie dictators running the student unions, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

02:29:50.880 Fact check, true.

02:29:52.180 Education.

02:29:52.660 Education.

02:29:53.660 They don't go there to get a massive debt.

02:29:55.280 Like when I left university in, oh, geez, 2005, I had $40,000 in debt.

02:30:02.660 It took me so long to pay that down, never even to actually finish paying it off.

02:30:06.400 To be honest, it took so long that the amortization period lapsed and the federal government seized it.

02:30:11.640 And this sits as a debt today that I still can pay off.

02:30:14.340 But people are getting even more and more and more in debt for degrees that they can't actually use in the job.

02:30:22.420 Oh, they act like a green guy basically against too many liberal arts degrees.

02:30:26.440 This generation of youth has been totally screwed.

02:30:29.420 Totally screwed like never before.

02:30:31.820 Start with their wages.

02:30:34.280 The government's bringing in unprecedented numbers of low-wage temporary foreign workers taking away the retail, accommodation, restaurant jobs that normally paid the tuition of our youth.

02:30:45.760 That has to stop.

02:30:46.980 We have to cut back on that.

02:30:48.920 Secondly, our universities are not equipping people with the right skills.

02:30:56.000 I got a university education.

02:30:57.740 U of C, it was great.

02:30:59.140 But I'll tell you what we need is more emphasis on the trades.

02:31:02.220 We need more of the people who can make stuff, move stuff, fix stuff, and move stuff.

02:31:07.800 And we need to shift more of our resources to making it possible for our young people to sign on to the trades.

02:31:13.680 And finally, we need to remove the red tape and the taxes to build homes that our young people can actually afford so that when they graduate with student debt,

02:31:22.640 they can still afford to buy a home and start a family and build a Canadian.

02:31:29.540 Thank you, Pia.

02:31:32.220 So now I would like to say thank you to all of the candidates and the audience for that engaging question period.

02:31:41.220 So now we're going to go to two-minute closing remarks, and we're going to go in reverse speaking order.

02:31:46.360 So I would like to invite the candidates, again, to provide a two-minute closing statement.

02:31:50.880 And we'll start with you, Jeff.

02:31:52.340 I guess that's all we have to watch, and then we're done.

02:31:55.980 Oh, my goodness.

02:31:56.480 Ladies and gentlemen, my opening statement, I explain how the Tories and Liberals have been working together for decades to bring us to our current state of affairs.

02:32:03.840 This, of course, includes society's embrace of the culture of death, in which we abort our future, indoctrinate, and sexually mutilate our youth, and euthanize our past.

02:32:12.520 Now, many of you will be familiar with the parable of the Good Samaritan.

02:32:16.580 In it, there's a wounded man in a ditch who had an unfortunate encounter with some robbers, and the upstanding religious people of his day walked right by him.

02:32:26.560 Thankfully for him, a Samaritan with a functioning conscience stopped and gave him some help.

02:32:31.380 Now, that man in the ditch today isn't a man.

02:32:34.600 He's a boy who's had it drilled into his head since his first day of school that he might be a girl, or maybe he's one of the 2,000 young girls in this country who have had their breasts removed after years of said indoctrination.

02:32:45.580 Or maybe he's the little old lady sitting alone in a hospital bed, hoping the doctor who just walked into the room with a needle in his hand isn't there to prematurely send her to her final reward.

02:32:56.340 Well, folks, those are the people in that ditch today.

02:33:00.160 And you have an opportunity to be that good Samaritan for all of them by sending the first Christian Heritage Party member of parliament to Ottawa.

02:33:07.600 If you do, it will awaken millions of Canadians to the existence of the CHP.

02:33:11.720 Some good pro-life Tory MPs will probably cross the floor to it, and God willing, will run a full slate of candidates in the next general election, making that election a de facto referendum on these.

02:33:23.780 Yeah, but you're not, the guy's not going door to door to win the riding.

02:33:27.140 I never like when people become grandiose about what they're attempting to achieve, when they're not even actually attempting to achieve, like, hey guys, if you do all the work and get me elected, then I might do something.

02:33:37.360 It's like, you're not doing something.

02:33:38.860 Of course, on these many and serious issues.

02:33:42.160 And when you're on the wrong road, moving in the wrong direction, it's precisely what you need.

02:33:46.740 I agree.

02:33:47.100 Thus, I believe that the majority of I represent is exactly what the doctor ordered, and I ask for your vote.

02:33:52.540 Thank you, and God bless.

02:33:55.640 Thank you, Jeff.

02:33:57.020 Catherine.

02:33:57.420 Thank you all so much for coming out and showing us your very, very enthusiastic behaviors, both for and against.

02:34:11.000 You know, it lets us know.

02:34:12.500 We do live in a democracy.

02:34:14.540 We're not in some kind of crazy authoritarian regime.

02:34:17.720 We are allowed to have different viewpoints.

02:34:20.240 And although we might not always agree on everything, I think everybody here has the mindset that we want to make things better.

02:34:28.560 I didn't hear anybody saying anything about making things, well, I don't know, making things worse.

02:34:37.120 And I just want to bring a voice of reason to the table.

02:34:42.100 Again, I understand this is a losing run for me, and that's fine.

02:34:46.760 I've been doing this for 10 years.

02:34:48.680 Right, Sorenson?

02:34:50.240 Yes, but I'll still be here.

02:34:52.920 I'll still be here advocating for issues, again, that are otherwise ignored by the government.

02:34:58.840 I'm here to fight.

02:35:00.020 I'm here to advocate.

02:35:01.720 In my last run, I will say I was lucky enough to have a number of things brought forward to the Liberal platform.

02:35:11.100 They stole from my platform right here in Battle River, Crowfoot, like an inquiry on missing and murdered Indigenous women.

02:35:18.400 They did that.

02:35:20.860 No, they did not.

02:35:22.420 My goodness.

02:35:22.960 Was she saying last time she ran here, like in this last election?

02:35:26.920 Well, but they did move forward on that.

02:35:28.960 I got what they did not.

02:35:29.680 And the navigable waters protection.

02:35:31.500 You know, we were able to reverse some of the lost protections there.

02:35:37.040 So, even though I lost, I still won.

02:35:40.420 I still got things to the table, and I still got things successfully moved forward.

02:35:47.100 So, I'm looking forward to doing that again in this run.

02:35:50.340 Apparently, she ran in 2015.

02:35:51.960 I still don't think so.

02:35:56.280 She took it from her in 2015.

02:35:58.120 That was probably a pretty common opinion.

02:35:59.800 Thank you, Catherine.

02:36:03.680 Sarah?

02:36:03.920 So, I also want to say thank you to everybody and everybody here.

02:36:09.080 This has been absolutely amazing.

02:36:10.880 This is my first time, so this has been really fun.

02:36:13.500 I enjoyed this.

02:36:14.440 But being independent, you know, I get it.

02:36:18.040 It's scary.

02:36:18.800 You make a choice for an independent.

02:36:20.120 Dude, I'm going to say, people have to stop saying this like there's a chance.

02:36:23.380 They keep having this like, hey guys, so I know it's scary, but if you vote for me, we can do this thing.

02:36:28.960 Like, it's not happening.

02:36:31.040 There's not enough people who know who you are in the riding to even select you.

02:36:35.640 But whatever.

02:36:38.780 I don't get when people do this stuff like this.

02:36:42.040 Rook says, this is a losing run.

02:36:51.980 Wow, quite a statement.

02:36:53.260 Yeah, probably still not a good idea to say that just for your own party's sake.

02:37:00.720 Graham says, our democracy does not equal your democracy.

02:37:05.580 I just turned the volume down because I don't really care to hear this.

02:37:13.600 I can pull numbers.

02:37:14.360 I can pull funding.

02:37:15.680 I can.

02:37:15.960 She's still going on about how if you vote for her as an independent, she can do a bunch of stuff, even though she's not going to win.

02:37:21.580 I'm sorry.

02:37:22.240 She's not even going to come like sixth place.

02:37:25.080 Listen, and we can engage.

02:37:26.820 And I am more than happy to listen to you guys.

02:37:28.940 And I just, when it comes down to it, I really just want to help you guys because I have experienced that same hospitality from many people in this riding.

02:37:37.820 And I would like to return that favor.

02:37:39.680 Thank you.

02:37:42.680 Thank you, Sarah.

02:37:43.920 Darcy.

02:37:46.700 Thank you again to the organizers.

02:37:48.380 Thank you, the fellow participants.

02:37:50.240 It's been eye-opening for me.

02:37:51.740 I'm a bit of a neophyte in politics.

02:37:54.640 My name is Darcy Spady.

02:37:56.000 I'm from Three Hills, and I do not want to be prime minister.

02:38:00.760 I would actually really like to represent you in Ottawa on the government benches as a member of parliament.

02:38:07.840 I've had the privilege in my technical career of testifying before common subcommittees and senate committees.

02:38:15.340 And I know that behind all the theatrics, and I have a 20-year veteran beside me here, behind all the theatrics, things really get done.

02:38:24.020 Things get, policy gets made, people get heard.

02:38:28.000 I think I'm a person, and I've been heard at least twice.

02:38:30.920 So I really am interested in being part of the process for this riding.

02:38:38.600 This is my home.

02:38:39.580 This has been my family home for 100 years.

02:38:42.420 And frankly, I would love to represent you.

02:38:45.600 We are the best in the world.

02:38:47.960 Our energy production, the people, the women and men every day who are out there in the fields, in the CBM fields, just south of here, they're the best in the world.

02:38:57.700 I know it.

02:38:58.520 I've seen it.

02:38:59.640 They are making the energy transition happening.

02:39:02.540 Carbon pricing is financing efficiency devices on wellheads.

02:39:07.640 We are world leaders.

02:39:08.820 I know this.

02:39:09.980 I've worked there.

02:39:11.220 Our farmers are the best.

02:39:13.380 Our crop outputs are the best.

02:39:16.780 We need more plants.

02:39:18.800 We need more plants.

02:39:19.540 Why are we shipping our Durham to Italy for pasta?

02:39:21.840 Why don't we do it right here in Battle River Crowfoot?

02:39:24.440 Why don't we build and broaden our infrastructure system, both highways and pipelines, to move oil and gas equipment north and south?

02:39:33.200 We are the best, and I would love to be your local representative in government, in Ottawa, on August 18th.

02:39:45.240 Please vote Darcy Spadey.

02:39:47.420 It just kind of trailed out there.

02:39:49.480 Thank you, Darcy.

02:39:50.540 Pierre?

02:39:50.820 Well, thank you very much, and thank you to all the candidates on the stage.

02:39:55.180 I think it's been a great debate.

02:39:56.760 What do you think?

02:39:57.800 A great conversation, and it's not even over yet.

02:40:01.440 And I want to thank all of you, and most importantly, in addition to the great Damien Couric, who's mentoring me and teaching me every day things I didn't know.

02:40:11.060 So he tells me, I'm not a farmer, but he tells me if I were, that I'd be outstanding in my field.

02:40:17.520 And his mentor, Kevin Sorensen, my longstanding friend who served you, you've had great representation here.

02:40:24.620 And thank you to all the people of Battle River Crowfoot.

02:40:27.480 I want to tell you it's been a privilege to get to know you better.

02:40:31.040 And I have to say it's been a lot of fun.

02:40:33.340 It's been great fun to be on the ranches and the farms.

02:40:36.920 Someone's asking how Pierre's been doing.

02:40:38.700 He's been doing fine.

02:40:39.480 He's been doing a good performance.

02:40:41.060 As he should.

02:40:41.580 He really can't go too ham because or else he looks like a bully.

02:40:44.920 And if he doesn't engage enough, then he looks like he's disinterested.

02:40:47.820 So you kind of have to give a very particular performance, which is kind of what he's been giving.

02:40:51.760 The leadership to the issues that are of local importance.

02:40:54.140 For example, reversing that EV mandate to allow you to drive your truck, that is a local issue.

02:41:02.980 And it will take national leadership to overturn it the way I overturned the carbon tax.

02:41:08.180 Your right to protect and keep your firearms.

02:41:11.520 That is a local issue if you're a hunter, an empress, or a troshu, or a consort.

02:41:18.740 Cutting taxes or, for example, letting our farmers have zero capital gains when they reinvest the proceeds in our communities.

02:41:27.860 That is a local issue.

02:41:29.380 Reforming our prisons so that our guards down in Drumheller are safe, that's a local issue, but it requires national leadership.

02:41:37.340 Fighting against the Chinese tariffs on our canola, that is a local issue.

02:41:42.300 These local issues require strong national leadership, and it would be the privilege of my life to provide both the local representation and the national leadership for the community.

02:41:57.640 Thank you, Pierre.

02:42:01.080 Ashley.

02:42:01.760 Okay, thank you for that.

02:42:19.240 All right, Ashley.

02:42:23.380 All right, well, thank you, everybody, for coming out tonight.

02:42:26.160 I think we all know this is Pierre's riding to lose here.

02:42:31.740 He's definitely going to win.

02:42:33.420 So, please take a chance.

02:42:36.820 I like how he's just saying that.

02:42:38.780 Be swayed by fear of, you know, a liberal MP from your area or an NDP MP from your area or an independent or so on.

02:42:46.580 Vote your conscience.

02:42:47.440 Vote however you want to vote.

02:42:49.000 My name is Ashley McDonald, like the restaurant, like I said earlier, so it's easy to remember.

02:42:53.240 You know, I'm sure they'll accept an MC instead of an MAC, so.

02:43:00.120 But, you know, a lot's been said about how the benefits of an independent MP from this riding would be, you know, like not swayed, not whipped by a party.

02:43:09.580 The Green Party is one of those federal parties that are an unwipped party.

02:43:14.320 So, you could elect a Green MP in any riding across this country, and they will be able to vote their conscience.

02:43:20.040 Vote how they're going to vote.

02:43:20.580 You definitely don't want them to, though.

02:43:22.860 Central authority in what they're supposed to do and how they're supposed to vote.

02:43:26.300 So, your vote is safe when given to a Green MP.

02:43:30.540 They're not going to be swayed by some special interest somewhere.

02:43:33.520 So, keep that in mind.

02:43:35.240 Feel free to protest in my favor, you know.

02:43:40.200 Thank you, everybody, for coming out tonight again.

02:43:42.340 Thank you to the Chamber for having this.

02:43:44.440 And thank you.

02:43:46.160 I'm going to cut it off after it gets to Bonnie Crickley, because I don't feel like we care about the PPC guy or Grant Abraham that much.

02:43:52.700 Backstage where we would all take a drink of water when he said woke, and he's not once said it.

02:43:58.960 So, it's really kind of disappointing to me.

02:44:03.260 I was really looking forward to this.

02:44:05.900 All right.

02:44:06.460 Thank you, everybody.

02:44:07.040 I've got to give him a little bit of a drink.

02:44:10.460 Thank you, Ashley.

02:44:11.900 Michael.

02:44:13.380 I'd first of all like to thank the Chamber of Commerce for inviting me out to this debate.

02:44:17.520 There's not too many times that libertarians are invited to these type of things, but when we do get invited, we come swinging like a hammer, as I always like to say.

02:44:24.420 And I've been out here.

02:44:25.660 If you guys don't know me, my name is Michael Harris.

02:44:27.360 I've been out here since May knocking on doors.

02:44:29.100 I've knocked on a couple thousand doors on this ride, and I've been hearing the issues of this ride.

02:44:33.380 And people might be disagreeing with me, people might not even want to vote for me, but at the end of the day, I want to hear the issues of every single person in this riding so I can best represent you.

02:44:42.700 Now, if you believe that the government and the Uni Party has taken advantage of you, has taken every cent out of your pocket, and that you feel that you can't get by day to day,

02:44:53.980 and if you want to see lower taxes, lower regulation, an end to supply management, an end to equalization, and the right to self-determination here in Alberta,

02:45:03.420 then I ask that you support me, Michael Harris, Libertarian, for liberty, family, and independence.

02:45:10.340 Thank you.

02:45:13.720 Thank you, Michael.

02:45:15.180 Bonnie.

02:45:15.660 Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Bonnie Critchley.

02:45:22.100 I just want to thank the Chamber of Commerce, our moderator, all the candidates for coming out and stepping up,

02:45:28.520 and all of you folks for at least coming out and making some noise.

02:45:33.220 What I would like to say is that this is our home.

02:45:37.840 This is our riding, and while we're sitting in the back, I believe it was Jonathan and Darcy and I were discussing a certain old folks' home

02:45:47.240 that we all know, because we live here.

02:45:51.460 Out of curiosity, who here can vote?

02:46:00.280 Yeah, that's kind of my point.

02:46:03.000 We live here.

02:46:04.300 This is our home.

02:46:05.320 And we sure as heck don't want to be doing this again in January now, do we?

02:46:14.260 What does she mean by that?

02:46:17.360 So, I have no personal aspirations.

02:46:20.900 I'll say it again.

02:46:21.620 I've said it before.

02:46:22.220 I'll say it again.

02:46:22.800 I don't want to do this.

02:46:24.460 We can tell.

02:46:25.400 This is like a very astroturfed campaign.

02:46:27.620 It's important to me that we have a voice in Parliament.

02:46:31.720 I firmly believe that Monsieur Poilievre is too busy with his own personal ambitions to give a rat's backside about us.

02:46:40.180 And with him facing leadership review in January, are we doing this again in February?

02:46:49.360 They realize if he loses the leadership review, he's not going to resign from his seat.

02:46:57.580 I am here for you.

02:46:58.800 I am here for my neighbors.

02:47:00.280 I am here for all of our communities.

02:47:03.380 Together, we can make our mark on the map and we can stand up for ourselves.

02:47:08.600 Like, that's nice, but that's not actually how politics works in terms of, like, getting legislation, like, you know, passed down the field and put through committee and whatnot.

02:47:19.880 Like, you know, we have a voice.

02:47:21.380 It's like, okay, but what are you going to do?

02:47:22.960 That's the problem.

02:47:23.980 What?

02:47:24.380 Thanks for coming out to see it and the rest of Battle River Crow for tuning in.

02:47:30.200 With the People's Party, we do not have a party whip either.

02:47:33.660 So your voice would be heard by myself and taken to Ottawa, and I would vote according to what my conscience is and according to what my constituents ask me to do.

02:47:51.500 So many things go through my head.

02:47:55.420 Sorry.

02:47:56.520 As you might tell, I'm not someone who has prepared a bunch of speeches in my life.

02:48:01.600 I've been working as a mechanic all of my life since I got out of high school, but I do believe that I can resonate very well with most of the people in this area, if not all of you.

02:48:15.240 I can find common ground.

02:48:16.420 I would absolutely love to take your voice to Ottawa and represent you with accountability and openness.

02:48:33.300 So, sorry, I can't think of anything else to say at the moment, so I'll just end with this.

02:48:39.160 I think it's time to put a commenter in the House of Commons.

02:48:45.120 Thank you, Jonathan.

02:48:46.180 You should actually start with that.

02:48:48.220 Yes, my name is Grant Abraham.

02:48:50.020 I'm the leader of the United Party of Canada.

02:48:52.100 We ran candidates across this country, and I'll tell you this, there's Canadians.

02:48:55.300 They only ran like a handful of candidates, so saying we ran cans across the country is not accurate.

02:49:00.740 By the way, like, again, nothing against Grant Abraham, but he's got to stop wearing these, like, double-breasted suits, but then also tan pants.

02:49:06.400 Canadians all across this country, like you, who know that this country is broken and that we're not being told the truth about what's actually going on in our nation.

02:49:16.240 We don't understand what our national debt is.

02:49:18.260 We just had a throne speech that has approved our country operating without a budget.

02:49:23.840 The Conservatives contributed that by not opposing it.

02:49:27.640 I'm fed up with this discussion in our nation where we don't actually know where we are.

02:49:32.940 And here's the thing that we really need to look at.

02:49:37.140 Justin Trudeau told us that we would be a post-nation state.

02:49:40.660 That means a state controlled by something other than what we are electing, what other than we elect.

02:49:46.120 He told us that COVID would provide us with a reset.

02:49:49.460 We understand that we're overrun by foreign interference.

02:49:52.240 And in the last three leadership races and three federal elections, when have you heard a Conservative MP say, excuse me, Mr. Trudeau, or excuse me, Mr. Carney, can you tell us what you mean by post-nationalism or what you mean by a reset?

02:50:09.680 We are losing our country.

02:50:13.580 There actually have been people, including Pauly of himself, who have called things like that out.

02:50:18.140 But again, I find he acts like he's innovating in politics while everyone's standing still without really taking a look at what other people actually do.

02:50:26.540 And it troubles me, actually, that we have to actually break this down in a debate like this because people aren't thinking.

02:50:41.860 And so I'll tell you what, for this country to actually move forward, we have to look at what's happening.

02:50:48.420 The Liberal government is betraying this nation, and the Conservative Party has continued to enable it by omission.

02:50:56.040 I'm going to tell you the truth, and we're going to start with fixing Alberta and setting it up.

02:51:03.180 Okay.

02:51:05.880 A lot's done there, but I'm just looking at the numbers for the United Party.

02:51:09.920 We can, like, just pull this up on Wikipedia.

02:51:12.060 Dude, he's being a little generous, saying he's running candidates across the country.

02:51:15.840 United was running 16 candidates, and they got 6,061 votes.

02:51:23.020 I'm not sure if that really counts as running candidates across the country.

02:51:27.520 They ran as many candidates as the Libertarians.

02:51:29.800 The Marxist-Leninists ran more candidates.

02:51:32.460 The Communists ran more candidates.

02:51:33.880 Centrists did.

02:51:35.380 The Canadian Future did.

02:51:37.360 Yeah, like, that's not exactly, like, the Rhinoceros Party ran more.

02:51:41.800 Christian Heritage ran more.

02:51:43.600 Like, get out of here.

02:51:45.480 I don't, I find that stuff very cynical.

02:51:48.220 Like, he's acting like he's, like, a leader of a party, while he doesn't actually do the basics to put together something that anyone could have confidence in.

02:51:56.880 Ugh.

02:51:58.900 Error Code Fixer says, Wyatt, let us know if you ever run in one of these things.

02:52:02.320 Well, I did back for Signal Hill's Conservative nomination, and I was kicked out, effectively, just because certain people didn't want me to win.

02:52:08.800 Like, I could be easily won with the amount of support I had.

02:52:11.880 Not, like, guaranteed, but, like, you know, would have been doing pretty well.

02:52:15.220 Well, and considering that my support was, I was sizing my support up at a time when I didn't even get to go and use the official list to talk to members I hadn't reached yet.

02:52:24.700 But, yeah, like, so, I guess that was fun.

02:52:27.500 Um, but, yeah, like, yeah, I think the third tooth is right.

02:52:31.720 I wouldn't vote for a libertarian in general, but he seems serious and smart enough to make a go of it.

02:52:36.840 Yeah, Michael Harris is a great guy.

02:52:38.360 I've met him before.

02:52:39.220 Really cool person.

02:52:40.180 Um, and, yeah, like, he's not running because he's trying to trip up Paulie and hurt him.

02:52:44.940 He's running to basically promote libertarianism, so I don't see it as, like, a bad thing.

02:52:49.740 Uh, I see it as an annoying thing when you have people running in races when they aren't even attempting to get anything done.

02:52:57.120 I mean, they're not trying to promote anything.

02:52:59.420 They're not trying to work hard, because Michael Harris could just put his name on the belt and say,

02:53:03.260 See, look, I promoted libertarianism.

02:53:04.800 He's actually hitting doors and talking to people.

02:53:06.760 If you are hitting doors and talking to people, I don't care if you don't even get a percent of the vote.

02:53:11.300 You tried.

02:53:12.900 Trying is what I care about.

02:53:14.580 If you don't try, that's when I'm having a problem with you.

02:53:18.020 And the longest ballot committee is obviously putting up candidates that are trying.

02:53:21.400 There are tons of people on that stage that are not trying, really.

02:53:24.240 Grant Abraham's not trying to build a movement.

02:53:26.300 The fact that you could only get 16 candidates to run in 2025 shows that there's no confidence in this.

02:53:31.640 But, yeah.

02:53:31.940 Oh, and Patrick, notice, because he said that there's actually a Marxist-Leninist party.

02:53:38.580 Yes, there's actually not only a Marxist-Leninist party, but if you remember the parties I was, or you listened to the parties I was mentioning, I also mentioned the Communist Party.

02:53:47.120 We have a Marxist-Leninist and a Communist Party, because apparently the left can't get along, at least on the very far left.

02:53:54.200 They have to have both a Marxist party, as well as a Communist Party.

02:54:00.580 Yeah, like, that's a good point.

02:54:03.240 Ethan Schultz says, why does Bonnie think that Pierre will lose the leadership race?

02:54:06.640 I don't know.

02:54:07.460 I guess it was just something to throw out there saying, hey, if he loses the leadership race, maybe he resigns his seat.

02:54:12.260 I don't think that Polyev is going to resign his seat if he loses a leadership race, or a leadership review, and I really doubt he's going to lose a leadership review.

02:54:22.140 Gotham says, sometimes you do have to vote for the least bad candidate if it will block the liberals' weak leadership.

02:54:33.360 Yeah, I think that there is a time when you vote for a lesser of two evils.

02:54:38.640 I really don't think that's what's going on here at all.

02:54:40.860 But, like, yeah, I would always say that the magic two words, or every situation, is that it depends.

02:54:47.820 It really depends on what's considered good or bad in a specific situation, and you have to do with whatever's going to be not just the best for right now, but it's going to be most effective in the future as well.

02:54:57.460 But I probably suspect that that's it for this video, guys, because we're already going on for over two hours and 55 minutes, so I'm going to be packing it up here.

02:55:08.200 But thanks, everyone, for tuning in.

02:55:09.940 Make sure to like the video and subscribe if you're not yet a subscriber.

02:55:13.860 Leave a comment after the video is up and do all that fantastic stuff.

02:55:18.120 Thanks for hanging out on the live stream, guys, and I'll see you guys all next time.

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - July 30, 2025

Watching Pierre Poilievre byelection candidate forum!

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