The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - May 08, 2025


Why Conservatives lost in 2025 and how they WIN next time!


Episode Stats

Length

17 minutes

Words per Minute

178.60573

Word Count

3,100

Sentence Count

119

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

In this video, we analyze the results of the Canadian federal election in 2021 and 2025 from the perspective of where the Conservatives performed best and where they performed worst, and how they can learn from them to win in 2020 and beyond.


Transcript

00:00:00.160 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. I'd assume all of you would agree with the old line that if you fail
00:00:06.600 to learn from your past mistakes, you will be doomed to repeat them over and over again. Now,
00:00:12.100 if this channel exists to answer a question, I think that question is, how does Canadian politics
00:00:17.580 actually work? And what I mean by that is, how do you win a Canadian federal election?
00:00:23.160 What motivates voters and how do you motivate them to vote for your party and cross the finish
00:00:27.520 line and win the election overall? Now, in today's video, I kind of want to partially answer that
00:00:33.500 question by analyzing the 2025 Canadian election results from the frame of how the conservatives
00:00:40.020 performed, where they did very well, where they didn't do so well, and how they can change it next
00:00:45.680 time so that they actually beat the liberals. I would characterize the 2025 election as not even
00:00:52.220 really a Mark Carney liberal victory, as much as the conservative party and Pierre Polyev failed
00:00:57.940 to win. You see that the liberals didn't actually do that much better in terms of net seat count
00:01:04.100 than they did back in the 2021 federal election. Just look up here for the 2021 results and here
00:01:11.780 for the 2025 results. The liberals only gained nine seats, whereas the conservatives gained 24 seats.
00:01:19.360 And while there's many embarrassing losses in there for the conservatives, overall, they actually
00:01:24.840 staked out a lot of new territory that wasn't assumed to be possible for the conservatives to win
00:01:30.480 just a couple of years ago. One fantastic result for the conservatives on election night, but not
00:01:36.560 nearly the most shocking, was the riding of Hamilton East Stoney Creek. The now MP elect from that riding,
00:01:44.340 Ned Couric, is even pointing out that 338 Canada at one point showed that there was a zero percent chance
00:01:51.800 for the conservatives to win the riding. It was a riding where the conservatives typically came in
00:01:57.360 second place, but any of the major three parties could conceivably win. What ended up happening here
00:02:04.100 was a complete collapse of the NDP, but not in favor of the liberals like we see in other areas
00:02:10.560 like downtown Toronto. Here's another great example for the conservatives. In 2021, the conservatives
00:02:18.320 lost both Windsor West and Windsor Tecumseh Lakeshore, two ridings where they had actually come in third
00:02:25.980 place in 2021, as well as in previous elections. We're going to focus in on the riding of Windsor West,
00:02:33.880 as it and many other ridings scattered across Canada tells the story of the changing electoral
00:02:40.580 coalition that the conservatives have behind them. Now, Windsor West is not a conservative riding.
00:02:47.240 That is something that does not have to be qualified in any way. It hasn't gone conservative
00:02:52.360 ever. Windsor West was made up of the two former ridings of Essex East and Essex West,
00:02:58.460 and while those ridings had had conservative MPs, we are talking about having conservative MPs in the
00:03:04.860 1950s and the 1930s. What Windsor West has a lot in common with other ridings that the poly of
00:03:12.360 conservatives won in 2021 was that it is a riding with a low median income and with a high minority
00:03:19.780 population. Windsor West is only 54.9% white, and that's based on 2021 statistics, and the median income
00:03:27.600 is only $34,000 Canadian. For some additional context, in the year 2021, the median Canadian was
00:03:36.720 making $44,000, $10,000 more than people in Windsor West. Who could guess why they didn't vote for the
00:03:45.100 Liberals or the New Democrats? It's an economically depressed region of Canada that have been hammered
00:03:50.820 by too many regulations and high taxes, and then the Liberals run on a platform purely about the fear
00:03:57.920 of Donald Trump in the United States. These people could truly care less. In fact, minority Canadians
00:04:03.480 are the least likely to care about fear of the United States because they're also the least likely to be
00:04:08.920 watching legacy media. Even though the Liberals did better in 2025 in Toronto than they did back in
00:04:16.100 2021, the funny thing is that the Liberals actually still lost seats. Most of their popular vote gains
00:04:22.860 came from ridings that they were just never going to lose, and so they just savaged the NDP vote in a
00:04:28.800 riding they were already winning by more than 10% in the last election. I think there is no better
00:04:34.220 example than Chrystia Freeland's riding of University Rosedale, where in this election she won 63% of the vote,
00:04:41.400 the Conservatives got 23%, and the NDP absolutely collapsed, which is why she ended up winning by a
00:04:48.560 dictatorship-like number. But then if we jump away from downtown Toronto, we then see the trend reverse,
00:04:55.480 with Conservative Roman Baber destroying Yara Sachs for the riding of York Centre. Yara Sachs won this
00:05:02.600 riding in 2021 by 10%, and now we have Roman Baber winning it by 12%. What the Conservatives were
00:05:10.320 doing so right in ridings like York Centre, Markham Unionville, Richmond Hill were also things that
00:05:17.460 they were not doing right in areas of the country like Mississauga and Brampton. So there's a lot of
00:05:23.040 great takeaways we can take from York Centre, but then we also look at it as an example of why not do
00:05:28.660 that elsewhere too? What the Conservative Party did right in a riding like York Centre, but not in the Brampton
00:05:35.060 and Mississauga areas, was taking local issues seriously. In York Centre, 15% of the population
00:05:42.040 is Jewish, and a big issue that has risen up over the last couple of years is the problem of rampant
00:05:48.120 anti-Semitism. Yara Sachs, although she's a Jewish woman herself, did not take it seriously, and even
00:05:54.500 went and shook hands with Mahmoud Abbas in the Palestinian Authority-controlled West Bank. She was
00:06:00.460 winking and nodding at the pro-Hamas crowd, and didn't really do anything to stand up to anti-Semitism
00:06:05.900 other than very hollow symbolic gestures. Roman Baber and the Conservatives honed in on this issue,
00:06:12.300 and there was a mass rout in favor of the Conservatives from the Jewish community. But then
00:06:17.580 in Brampton and Mississauga, where there were high tensions because of foreign interference
00:06:22.240 and Calistani agitation, Brampton and Mississauga have high Indo-Canadian populations,
00:06:27.460 the Conservatives kind of just sat on the fence, and they actually in some cases kind of seem to be
00:06:33.600 walking hand in hand with many Calistani community organizers. The thing is, Calistanis are not popular
00:06:40.360 in the Sikh community, and they are especially not popular in the Hindu community. Hindu Canadians are the
00:06:46.700 second most likely group after Evangelical Christians to vote Conservative, but in the 2025 federal election,
00:06:53.400 many of those people sat home, or even in some cases voted PPC, because a Hindu-Canadian candidate,
00:07:00.120 Jeff Lawl, had been disqualified from a Conservative nomination in Brampton, and so he decided to,
00:07:06.040 in protest, go run for the PPC. You might not like him doing that, but that's kind of politics at the
00:07:11.860 end of the day. Somebody feels wronged, and they may come after you for it. Brampton East is an especially
00:07:17.800 interesting case study, as the former Conservative Party nomination candidate, Jeff Lawl, ran here as
00:07:23.560 the PPC candidate, and he in fact got more votes than the PPC did in this riding in the last election.
00:07:30.520 This, in spite of the PPC losing more than 80% of their vote across the country.
00:07:36.920 Let me be very clear, this is not a vote split with the PPC. These are a lot of Hindu-Canadians voting for
00:07:44.200 the PPC in the riding to demonstrate their dissatisfaction with the way the nomination for
00:07:49.560 the Conservatives was conducted in this riding. If Jeff Lawl had been allowed in the nomination,
00:07:54.680 but just naturally lost because he didn't have enough votes to secure the nomination,
00:07:59.000 I guarantee you these people would have not only voted for the Conservatives,
00:08:02.680 but potentially volunteered for them. They felt wronged, so not only did most of them not show up,
00:08:08.120 if they did, they just voted PPC to demonstrate that the Conservatives could have had those votes.
00:08:13.480 If you look at the voting results coming out of Brampton and Mississauga,
00:08:17.560 there were around a dozen ridings that were within a couple thousand votes. If everything was just
00:08:23.640 handled better on the nomination side of things, the Conservatives could have had several of the
00:08:28.680 ridings and in fact been nearly in a minority government position with just this region of
00:08:34.120 Canada going a different way. Now let's jump over to a very different part of the country,
00:08:39.560 the Maritimes. Here the Conservatives actually outperformed the polls quite well.
00:08:44.840 Many pollsters were saying that the Conservatives were going to get absolutely wiped out and the
00:08:48.760 Liberals were going to get 65% of the vote, but the Conservatives were able to defend their ridings
00:08:53.720 in New Brunswick and even gain one in Newfoundland and Labrador. The big black mark for the Conservatives
00:08:59.240 in this region was Nova Scotia. I think the macro reason as to why the Conservatives lost seats like
00:09:05.480 South Shore St. Margaret's and Colchester Cumberland in Nova Scotia, but ended up gaining a seat in
00:09:11.080 Newfoundland was again the issue of focus. The Conservatives were very focused on the issue of
00:09:16.920 fishing and oil and gas in Newfoundland, so they appealed to new voters and they were able to flip
00:09:22.120 people from the Liberals to Conservatives or turn out low propensity voters. In Nova Scotia, where the
00:09:28.040 population is disproportionately white and older, the Conservatives didn't really have a part of their
00:09:33.560 vision that appealed to them, and so the Liberals fear-mongering about Donald Trump ended up winning
00:09:38.600 out and the Conservatives were left with only a single riding in Nova Scotia, when in fact it would
00:09:43.800 have probably been good soil to be able to win even more seats than they did in 2021. This is also very
00:09:50.200 likely the reason why ridings like South Surrey-White Rock and Peterborough-Kowalfa were lost in the
00:09:55.960 election. Older white voters didn't show up for the Conservatives like they used to because of the fear
00:10:00.920 narratives of the Liberals that the Conservatives were not properly countering. Unfortunately, I think
00:10:06.440 the thing that the Conservative Party platform lacked in 2025 was the same thing it lacked in 2015 and 2019.
00:10:13.960 It didn't have strong social issue planks, and I think those were the ones that older voters were
00:10:19.640 voting along the lines of in this election. The Conservatives usually would win older voters in
00:10:24.680 previous elections because the Liberals were so hyper-progressive it turned off a lot of older voters
00:10:29.800 who naturally don't really like the new woke orthodoxy. But in this election, Mark Carney and
00:10:35.000 the Liberals ran against Donald Trump as their big social issue, and the Conservatives really didn't
00:10:39.800 even have one to counter them at all. They could have run on immigration, they could have run on
00:10:45.160 parental rights, they could have run on a lot of things that would have gotten a lot of older voters
00:10:50.280 to shift back towards the Conservatives, but I think they just stuck to safe fiscal issues that appeal to
00:10:56.760 younger people who are financially vulnerable right now, but those ones were not connecting with
00:11:02.440 retired people who are disproportionately financially well off or their homeowners.
00:11:08.200 You've probably already seen this chart from abacus data that shows the top issue for voters 60 years
00:11:14.200 old and older was dealing with Donald Trump with a distant second of reducing the cost of living.
00:11:20.760 So the cost of living did matter to these voters, but disproportionately they were motivated by that
00:11:26.440 Donald Trump social issue. And this leads to a secondary issue for the Conservative Party.
00:11:32.520 They didn't let their local candidates run on issues that mattered to the voters in the local area.
00:11:38.200 You needed to get permission to pretty much do anything, whether that was attend an event,
00:11:42.840 go speak to a community leader, or even post something on social media. And so they ended up in a
00:11:48.200 scenario where they were basically running as a generic Conservative candidate without the ability to speak on
00:11:54.280 something that mattered to people who live in their area. I've talked to several Conservative Party
00:11:59.640 organizers and candidates who actually won tight swing ridings, and they found one of the most
00:12:04.680 effective things for them to do on the ground was just ignore HQ, create their own literature,
00:12:10.040 and speak to issues that their constituents cared about, even if it meant going off script. They would
00:12:15.080 attend debates even though they were told not to do it, they would go to any events they wanted to,
00:12:19.240 because that allowed them to run a truly grassroots campaign. And I think the thing that the Conservatives
00:12:24.360 were missing in a lot of areas was the grassroots campaigning that had won elections in the past for
00:12:29.960 the Conservatives. And I'm fully aware of the elephant in the room in the 2025 federal election, and that is
00:12:36.760 the complete collapse of the Jagmeet Singh NDP and the underperformance of Yves-Francois Blanchet's
00:12:43.240 Bloc Québécois. The problem with highlighting those things in this video is that that's not something the
00:12:48.760 Conservative Party can control. And what I want to do in this video and future videos is focus on what
00:12:54.760 the Conservatives did right, what they did wrong, and how they can win next time. I think if they
00:12:59.960 just keep this working class base on their side, they play to this new base, they will be able to
00:13:05.240 hold on to a lot of the gains that they got, and the Conservatives then by pivoting more onto social
00:13:10.440 issues, they will be able to win back a lot of older white voters who don't really care about the
00:13:15.560 affordability issues the way that younger voters do. Naturally, there are older voters who care about
00:13:20.600 those things. If you're watching my show, you probably voted for the Conservatives, and you
00:13:24.840 probably equally care about fiscal issues as well as social issues. But the Conservative Party not
00:13:29.880 emphasizing those issues enough means that people who don't follow politics very closely are going to
00:13:34.760 see the Liberals offering something, i.e. let's defend Canada from Donald Trump, and the Conservatives
00:13:40.520 kind of saying the same thing but not as strong, and then there's no other unique issue they have on
00:13:45.560 social issues that's differentiating themselves. Honestly, if they even ran pro-life, they'd probably
00:13:50.840 do better. If they ran for tighter restrictions on immigration, they would do better. If they ran for
00:13:56.760 a parental bill of rights, they would do way better. They just need to find something that polarizes
00:14:02.680 people in a positive direction. Because on those three issues, you actually have a lot of votes to gain
00:14:08.440 by taking a position, even if it's controversial. The thing is, about 30% of women and 25% of men in
00:14:15.320 Canada are hardcore pro-life. And the thing is that about 80% of people are somewhat pro-life. So even
00:14:22.120 running on a pro-life platform, if it's done smartly, can actually make it so that more people
00:14:27.400 will vote for you. Because what are the NDP and the Liberals going to do? Split the we are in favor
00:14:32.360 of no restrictions on abortion vote? That's only about half of Canadians, and half of Canadians are
00:14:37.080 somewhat pro-life and they want there to be real restrictions. I know I said 80 and now I'm saying 50,
00:14:42.200 but I'm talking about more pro-life to less pro-life. It's probably about 50-50 in Canada.
00:14:47.480 Yes, there's only 25% of people in Canada who are absolutely pro-life in all cases, but that also
00:14:53.800 applies to people who are absolutely pro-choice in all cases. It's an issue that you can win a lot of
00:14:58.600 votes on. I'm not saying they have to run on it, but it's an example. Again, immigration. If you ran on
00:15:04.520 reducing immigration to 100,000, some might say that's controversial. Maybe that's too much of a
00:15:09.560 reduction or maybe it needs to be reduced more. But guess what we're having now? We're having a
00:15:13.560 policy debate. A policy debate that Pierre Pauliev and the Conservatives can win on. So I think what
00:15:19.000 they need is that HQ needs to be shaken up and they need to bring in people with new ideas and who want
00:15:24.600 to stake out what is considered risky territory on issues that the Conservative Party hasn't touched in
00:15:29.960 the past. Because if they run the same campaign they ran in this election next election, they could
00:15:34.760 actually lose by more. Because if Mark Carney's even somewhat smart on the economy and makes things
00:15:39.560 at least appear better than it was under Justin Trudeau, he's going to hold on to a lot of his voters
00:15:44.680 as well. And unless Conservatives jar those voters out of their normal voting patterns or their voting
00:15:50.360 pattern from 2025 with social issue positions, then I don't think much is going to change or it might even
00:15:56.760 get worse. Conservatives will hold on to their working class base that is very much economically hurting,
00:16:02.760 but how are they going to get the people who feel economically secure? Even on economic issues,
00:16:07.800 you could actually stake out a more controversial position and also win votes by combining a fiscal
00:16:13.960 issue and a social issue. Reduce taxes severely. Run on the idea that people should be able to control
00:16:19.480 their own destinies and that's why we're going to cut taxes across the board by 25%. You would win a lot
00:16:25.640 more votes by doing that. By just saying 15% tax reduction under $50,000, that appeals to people just
00:16:32.600 entering the job market who don't have a lot of money or don't have high incomes, but those who
00:16:37.320 are on the higher income side look at that and say, what's that to me? That's like basically none of
00:16:42.040 the taxes that I'm paying being reduced. Anyway, so that should be it for me today guys on this topic.
00:16:48.840 I will be back in a future video to talk more about election strategy and how to win. Not that I am like
00:16:55.480 the guru on the issue. I am just a guy, but I'm trying to take this issue from the perspective of
00:17:01.400 how to win and how to understand Canadian voters. So anyways, thank you guys for watching. Make sure
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