The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Why Conservatives supported the Liberals Bill C-5？

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. You would rightfully assume if things are going to get passed in this

00:00:06.800 parliament, it's mostly going to be passed with the liberals being joined with either the NDP

00:00:12.360 or the Bloc Québécois. But a couple of days ago, a bill was actually passed with the help of the

00:00:18.640 federal conservatives. And now we are going to break down why that is, because a lot of people

00:00:23.980 were confused as to why Pierre Polyev's conservatives would ever vote in favor of

00:00:28.640 something that Mark Carney's liberals put forward. And it's actually a kind of complicated situation.

00:00:34.320 Is Bill C-5, the one we are talking about today, a very long title, An Act to An Act,

00:00:41.860 the Free Trade and Labor Mobility in Canada Act and the Building Canada Act? Very, very fluid title

00:00:48.380 there, just rolls right off the tongue. But a lot of people were thinking like, this is kind of strange,

00:00:54.220 is this the unit party all coming together, showing itself to us, and they don't care about

00:00:58.940 average Canadians? No. Is it a good bill? No. Did the conservatives vote for it for good reason? 0.57

00:01:06.560 Yes. And that's a very strange thing for me to vocalize here. And I'm going to break it down

00:01:12.300 in just a second. I just want to remind you guys, hey, if you like my show and you like the way I talk

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00:01:27.480 mid-December of this year. And also leave a comment on what you think on this fairly controversial bill,

00:01:33.760 because definitely there is going to be a lot of discussion about it in the coming days.

00:01:37.680 So this bill, Bill C-5, I am calling it bad. At the same time, I fully understand why the

00:01:44.440 conservatives voted for it. This is one of those things where to vote against it, you would end up

00:01:50.960 suffering the consequences of anything good that comes from it. But if you vote for it,

00:01:56.560 and nothing good comes of it, you don't really suffer any consequences. And that is what has

00:02:02.080 gone on here. Do I think that what Mark Carney is going to do with this bill will start modernizing

00:02:08.120 Canada, get pipelines built, you know, create his vaunted energy corridor, get bridges built, do all

00:02:15.580 this stuff? No, I don't think he's going to build more ports. I don't think he's going to do

00:02:18.880 really anything major with this bill. It's a lot of showy kind of politics that I'm passing a bill

00:02:25.880 that says we're going to get stuff done. And so as a conservative MP, are you going to sit there and

00:02:31.700 say, I vote against the get stuff done bill? At worst, it doesn't get stuff done. And no one's

00:02:36.940 going to blame you for voting for it. It was called the get stuff done bill. And so that's kind of the

00:02:41.440 game that's taking place right now. I just want to show this CBC article because I think they

00:02:45.540 actually do a pretty good job of actually summing this thing up. They say in this article, headline

00:02:50.940 right here, liberal majority projects bill passes, liberals major projects bill passes House of

00:02:57.640 Commons with conservative support. Sorry for reading that wrong. I've been on flights and trips and road

00:03:02.820 trips for like the last two and a half weeks. It's ridiculous. But this article says the liberal

00:03:08.700 government's major projects legislation passed in the House of Commons on Friday evening as MPs wrapped up

00:03:14.300 the spring parliamentary sitting. Bill C-5, the One Canada Economy Act, essentially gives cabinet the

00:03:19.500 ability to pick certain projects to speed through the regulatory process with an eye to projects that

00:03:26.000 can deliver an economic boost to Canada, help strengthen the country's autonomy and resilience,

00:03:31.940 quote, advance the interests of indigenous people, unquote, and contribute to a, quote, clean economy.

00:03:37.220 And those last two things are very key there as to why I'm saying that this bill may not get

00:03:43.060 anything done. Because what Carney is doing in this bill is saying I want to get stuff done.

00:03:47.960 At the same time, when it comes to something like pipelines, all the provinces have to agree to do

00:03:53.260 it. And you have to do endless consultations with indigenous band councils. And you have to do it in

00:03:58.860 like endless consultations on environmental safety, that environmental groups can hold up and slow down

00:04:05.280 and force you to do over again. So this is one of those things where conservatives are basically

00:04:10.840 letting the liberals have what they want, and then let them fail on their own terms. If they succeed and

00:04:17.440 they start building tons of pipelines, well, we can't really sit here and complain. It would be a

00:04:22.560 good thing if we started building pipelines. Would it feel a little bit raw in terms of like, this is

00:04:27.580 sort of hypocritical that you guys held up projects forever, and now you're basically doing what the

00:04:32.380 conservatives wanted to do? That would suck, but at least we'd be building pipelines and average 0.99

00:04:36.920 people's lives would be getting better. I think the gamble the conservatives are making,

00:04:40.960 and I think it's an 80% plus gamble to be making, is that the liberals are going to get maybe a couple

00:04:46.920 things done with this. But by the next election, they're not going to talk a lot about the Major

00:04:52.400 Projects Act. They're not going to be marketing this as a reason to reelect them because it's probably

00:04:57.240 going to be something that doesn't really get used a lot. Cabinet can speed up projects, but Cabinet

00:05:02.460 doesn't like a lot of projects. Do you think that they're going to start speeding up new

00:05:06.320 mines? They're going to start speeding up oil and gas projects or pipelines? No, no. Again,

00:05:12.620 Mark Carney is saying, okay, yeah, we'll get stuff done, but you have to go through this checklist of

00:05:18.080 other people in order to get your project sped up, which means nothing's being sped up because in

00:05:23.180 order to get sped up, you have to do the process, the entire process that everyone else has to go

00:05:28.680 through. So you have to go through indigenous consultations, eco consultations. You have to go

00:05:33.200 through the provincial legislatures to get approval if you want to build stuff across their

00:05:37.220 jurisdiction. So it basically is Mark Carney saying, I'm serious, but not that serious. So he's going to

00:05:45.320 pretend that he wants to get stuff done. And now he gets to outsource the blame for things not getting

00:05:49.940 done to indigenous groups, to the provinces, to environmental regulations. So climate change is

00:05:56.920 forcing us to slow this whole thing down. And if you're the conservatives, you vote for it. And if

00:06:02.240 nothing gets done, you can say, see, he's worthless. He doesn't know what he's doing.

00:06:06.920 He put all of his political capital together to get this thing passed in a very short period of time,

00:06:12.580 which is actually genuinely kind of impressive. He got this whole thing done in like a month when

00:06:16.900 usually a piece of legislation like this could take over a year potentially. But he put a lot of

00:06:21.740 political capital into getting this thing passed. And if nothing comes of it in a year, well,

00:06:26.760 Pierre Polyev, who is currently campaigning in for the by-election in the, I think it's, what is it?

00:06:32.080 Profoot, the battle, not battle first. Oh my goodness. I'm just forgetting things left and

00:06:37.480 right, but he's running for a by-election in Alberta. I just got off a flight like two hours

00:06:41.580 ago. But he can then in a year's time, go to the Canadian public and say, see, we even backed him

00:06:48.920 up on getting stuff done and he still won't do it. He was probably hoping that we would oppose it.

00:06:53.860 So then he could look at us, the NDP and the block say, see, they don't want to do it. This is

00:06:58.400 disgusting. Can't believe that they're holding this thing up. This was what was going to make 0.94

00:07:03.260 the country better or whatever. And so that's where basically the conservatives are having to

00:07:09.000 be very careful with this, justifying it very carefully. And I think that they're not wrong

00:07:13.580 to have voted for it. I think I had a statement here from the NDP. Here is actually, yes, Jenny Kwan,

00:07:22.900 an NDP MP. She's, her reacting to it, basically saying that the bill was not like in favor of

00:07:30.300 indigenous rights enough and all this stuff. And this is demonstrating also why the opposition to

00:07:35.520 the bill was not exactly a good side of the aisle to be on because everyone else's voices,

00:07:41.200 the Bloc Québécois, the NDP and Elizabeth May with the Greens and the media, the way they're arguing

00:07:47.700 against the bill is basically saying that it's not draconian enough. It doesn't put enough

00:07:51.900 restrictions on projects. So you're kind of, you know, damned if you do and damned if you don't, 0.92

00:07:57.120 if you're the conservatives. But she says here, 0.93

00:08:00.540 The NDP has forced the government to split up its omnibus major projects legislation, Bill C-5,

00:08:09.600 forcing Parliament to vote directly on its more controversial clauses. After Friday's question

00:08:14.040 period, NDP MP Jenny Kwan, Vancouver East, raised a point of order arguing the bill's two parts were

00:08:19.820 unrelated to one another, which the Speaker ruled in favor of. And then, so this, they're trying to turn

00:08:24.720 this into a big, like, win. Later on, it says, NDP MP Leah Gazzan, Winnipeg Center, echoed Kwan's

00:08:33.140 concern, saying the second half of Bill C-5 violates the government's constitutional obligation

00:08:38.040 to obtain the free, prior, and informed consent of indigenous rights holders. Even more, it's an

00:08:43.840 attack on health and safety standards and environmental protections that'll hurt everyone,

00:08:48.520 especially working people. And so from a partisan conservative perspective, I hope the NDP gets

00:08:54.300 some juice out of this. I hope that they end up, you know, seeming like progressive warriors and

00:08:59.760 clawing away some people from the liberals. But for the most part, I think that this is going to be a

00:09:04.500 big nothing burger in the long run. It would have hurt the conservatives in the short run if they

00:09:09.080 voted against it, or actually it would have hurt them in the long run, because if they voted against

00:09:12.200 it and the whole bill died because the conservatives didn't vote for it and the NDP and the bloc also

00:09:16.980 didn't vote for it, then again, Carney gets to go around saying, I wanted to save the country,

00:09:21.220 but these guys wouldn't let me. So the conservatives are saying, okay, go save the country. Because in

00:09:26.120 theory, I'm not opposed to cabinet speeding up projects. I just think we should do mass deregulation,

00:09:32.280 make it so anyone's projects can be fast-tracked. Because if it's good for that project to be fast-tracked,

00:09:37.240 why can't that project be fast-tracked? Really, this is just indicting the whole regulatory

00:09:41.980 system in Canada right now. Everything is hard to do. And so we had to take a bill that basically

00:09:48.140 tries to not admit that the regulatory process is bad, but just says we should speed these few

00:09:54.600 projects up. Regulations are fine, but just not for this project, which is all very silly and dumb. 0.99

00:10:00.540 But anyways, that should be it for this video, guys. So Bill C-5, it's one of those weird political 0.91

00:10:07.260 situations where it's actually smart for the conservatives to vote in favor of what is a bad

00:10:11.440 bill. Is the bill going to violate your rights or hurt you? No, it's just not very good, and it

00:10:17.060 doesn't deregulate in the ways that we probably want it to. But that's just how politics works

00:10:22.580 sometimes. Anyways, so that's it for me today, guys. Make sure to like the video, subscribe to

00:10:27.280 the channel, leave a comment, do all that fantastic stuff, and I'll see you guys later.

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - June 24, 2025

Why Conservatives supported the Liberals Bill C-5？

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