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BONUS EPISODE - Christian Nationalism, Blasphemy Laws, & The End Of America | Live with Pastor Joel

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Civil Magistrates enforce both the Ten Commandments and the Ten Table of the Law, but not the second table of the Decalogue. Why not the first table? Why should the government enforce both tables of the law?

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00:00:30 All right, a couple quick thoughts about the civil government enforcing both tables of the law.
00:00:40 When I say both tables of the law, I'm referring to the Decalogue.
00:00:43 That is the Ten Commandments in Exodus chapter 20.
00:00:46 When we say tables of the law, we're talking about the first table being commandments one through four,
00:00:52 dealing with our obligation to love the Lord our God with all our heart, soul, and mind.
00:00:57 So the first four of the Ten Commandments is, have no other gods before me, do not make
00:01:01 any graven images.
00:01:03 Then you also have, do not take the Lord's name in vain, and then remember the Sabbath
00:01:07 and keep it holy.
00:01:08 These four, the first four of the Ten Commandments pertain to man's moral obligation as it regards
00:01:15 to the Lord, his obligation to the Lord.
00:01:18 So that's the first table of the law of God.
00:01:20 The second table of the law of God would be Commandments 5 through 10.
00:01:23 So you've got the first four, then the final six.
00:01:26 So commandments five through 10. This is honor father and mother. That's the fifth commandment. Do not murder is the sixth. Then you have do not commit adultery. That is the seventh commandment. Then you have do not steal would be the eighth commandment. Do not bear false witness is the ninth commandment. And then lastly, number 10 is do not covet.
00:01:44 So I want to give you a couple thoughts in regards to the civil magistrate governments, national governments, the civil authorities in regards to legislating and enforcing both tables of the law of God.
00:01:59 That was Calvin's position, John Calvin, also on the Baptist side, John Gill.
00:02:03 John Gill is expressly, as put down in writing, John Gill, just for the record, if you don't
00:02:08 know who he is, he's one of the famous Reformed Baptist ministers that many Reformed Baptists
00:02:15 today admire and will often quote.
00:02:18 He was a minister in the very same church that Charles Spurgeon pastored in about 100
00:02:24 years later.
00:02:25 So Charles Spurgeon, the church that he pastored 100 years prior, earlier, that was John Gill's church.
00:02:31 And so both John Calvin and John Gill would hold to that the civil magistrate has an obligation biblically to legislate in force,
00:02:39 not just the second table of the law of God, which all deals with our horizontal relationships with our fellow man,
00:02:46 how we can love our neighbor as ourself,
00:02:48 but both John Calvin and John Gill would hold to the civil magistrate enforcing both tables of the law,
00:02:54 including the first four of the Ten Commandments, dealing with idolatry, graven images, taking the
00:03:02 Lord's name in veins. That would include blasphemy laws. And then, of course, remembering the Sabbath. 0.95
00:03:07 This would include Sabbath laws. So here's a couple thoughts. There's a lot of guys right now
00:03:12 in regards to the conversation that continues to go on about Christian nationalism,
00:03:17 saying that it is the obligation of civil authorities of the state the government to
00:03:24 legislate and enforce the second table of the decalogue as it pertains to our love for our
00:03:31 neighbor commandments five through ten the second table of the decalogue but not the first and i
00:03:37 think that this is precisely the wrong distinction the reformers would agree the puritans would agree
00:03:43 Calvin Gill they would agree so this is not a novel position I didn't come up with this on my
00:03:49 own they were all both table guys they were saying no the civil magistrate should enforce
00:03:55 both tables of the law and the distinction that I've noticed is this instead of saying
00:04:01 you should the civil magistrate should distinguish between the second and the first table
00:04:06 instead where they put the distinction is between public and private let me say that again
00:04:12 for the civil magistrate in his duty before god to be righteous in his laws that he legislates
00:04:20 and enforces with civil authority with the sword that's been given to him romans 13 the distinction
00:04:26 that the civil magistrate should make is not between the first and second table of the law of
00:04:32 god but between private and public between private and public and here's what i mean the easiest way
00:04:40 that I could put it is like this. No government, no, even if it's a Christian nation, no Christian 0.94
00:04:47 government, no Christian civil magistrate, no Christian prince should be policing and enforcing 0.84
00:04:54 laws by punishment with fines or imprisonment or death or whatever it may be. They should not be 0.99
00:05:02 legislating and enforcing against a breach of the 10th commandment, namely coveting.
00:05:08 christian nationalists do not want the coveting police we don't want the thought private thought
00:05:16 police we are not advocates of 1984 that's you know george orwell's you know fictional writing
00:05:24 1984 that's not what we want so we don't want even in a christian nation we do want a christian
00:05:29 nation that legislates and enforces the law of god but we don't want the 10th commandment coveting
00:05:36 to be enforced. Why? Because coveting is a sin of the heart. It is a private sin. So when does a
00:05:43 civil magistrate get involved with someone breaching the 10th commandment, choosing to
00:05:48 covet? Will they get involved when that breach, that individual person, their choice to break
00:05:55 God's law regarding the 10th commandment, to covet their neighbor's possessions, to covet what God
00:06:01 has sovereignly chosen to distribute to their neighbor rather than to them, when their coveting
00:06:06 becomes of such a high degree that it causes their breaking of the 10th commandment begins to
00:06:14 overflow and manifest as a breaking of the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, or 9th commandment. What do I mean?
00:06:23 Well, this is what the book of James says, right? Why are there factions and divisions among you?
00:06:28 is it not because of your desires, right? That sin begins at the level of desire. And then James
00:06:35 goes further and says, you covet, but do not have. And so you murder right there. James is telling us
00:06:42 the pattern. Coveting, if unchecked, apart from accountability, not from the civil magistrate,
00:06:49 but from the church, from brothers and sisters in Christ, and simply repenting, confessing our sins
00:06:55 privately in our private practices of piety, not pietism, but piety, which is a good thing
00:07:01 through prayer and fasting and scripture study, living a life as a Christian, an inward life as
00:07:07 a Christian with practices of piety. If we do not check our covetous desires, then coveting
00:07:15 eventually will overflow where it's no longer merely a breach of the 10th commandment, thou
00:07:21 shall not covet but coveting unchecked eventually will manifest in breaking one of the other
00:07:27 commandments namely commandment five through nine right so we we want something that god has chosen
00:07:33 to give to our neighbors so bad and rather than confessing that sin to the lord rather than
00:07:38 getting accountability from brothers and sisters in christ rather than turning to the lord in
00:07:42 confession and repentance in study of the scripture in prayer in fasting rather than doing these
00:07:49 things, we, we allow our coveting to grow to where eventually we commit murder. We so, so badly
00:07:58 covet something, right? I think of, you know, it's like Gollum and the Lord of the Rings, right?
00:08:02 That, that, you know, originally he was a hobbit, right? He wasn't a monster to begin with. He was
00:08:08 a hobbit, but he and his buddy hobbit were out fishing one day and, and all of a sudden they
00:08:15 find the ring, the one ring to rule them all at the bottom of the river. And so they pull the
00:08:22 ring up and it's his friend, Gollum's friend, Smeagol's friend that actually found the ring.
00:08:27 And Smeagol says, I want it. Give it to me. I'm entitled to it. It's my birthday. It happened to
00:08:33 be his birthday that day. But his friend said, well, no, I found it and I'm not obligated to
00:08:38 give it to you. I want it. And so Smeagol, who's not a monster at this point, but he quickly becomes
00:08:43 one, he strangles and murders his friend, one of his very best friends, because he covets. So
00:08:49 coveting the breaking of the 10th commandment, unchecked, it bubbles up and overflows into a
00:08:57 breaking of, in this case, the sixth commandment, thou shall not murder. This can happen with the
00:09:01 eighth commandment, thou shall not steal. Your neighbor has something that you want, that you
00:09:05 covet, that you believe you're entitled to. And so if you allow that coveting heart to continue to
00:09:11 grow and grow and grow, eventually what you end up doing is you are tempted to steal, right? Thou
00:09:18 shall not steal. Well, now you're stealing. Or if you covet your neighbor's wife, adultery, that's
00:09:23 the seventh commandment. Or in coveting, it could cause you to be tempted to break the ninth
00:09:27 commandment, to lie, to bear false witness in order to wrongfully, in an unethical manner, get
00:09:33 something that you want that didn't actually belong to you. So here's the deal. The distinction
00:09:38 is not between second table, horizontal love for neighbor, and first table, vertical love for God.
00:09:46 No, the distinction for the civil magistrate as he seeks to legislate and enforce God's law
00:09:51 righteously is not between second table and first table of the law. The distinction has to be between
00:09:58 public and private. So the covet commandment, the 10th commandment, thou shalt not covet,
00:10:04 that is the second table of the law it pertains to our relationship horizontally with our neighbor
00:10:10 and yet the civil magistrate even within a christian nationalist scheme framework the
00:10:16 christian nationalists such as myself would still say that the civil magistrate has no authority
00:10:20 to enforce as a thought police against coveting but coveting eventually that's a private sin so
00:10:27 therefore it's not legislated against but if that private sin becomes it bubbles over and becomes a
00:10:33 public sin, the breaking of the 10th commandment, choosing to covet, causes you to eventually break
00:10:38 the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, or 9th commandment. Now the civil magistrate is involved. And my point
00:10:44 is, I think with the first table of the law, commandments 1 through 4, as it pertains to
00:10:48 loving the Lord our God, the very same principle is at play, but in reverse. So think of it like
00:10:53 this, all right? The first commandment is, have no other gods before me. That is a private matter.
00:11:01 that's something that's in the heart it's it's hard to detect it's not necessarily outward
00:11:07 external and witnessable however here's the deal if someone is an idolater privately at heart
00:11:14 they actually have other gods before the triune god yahweh the true god then eventually what
00:11:20 happens is if that's unchecked if there's not that accountability in the realm of the church
00:11:25 in the realm of Christian private practices of piety,
00:11:29 then having other gods privately in the heart
00:11:33 before the true triune God
00:11:35 will eventually cause you to break commandments
00:11:38 two, three, or four. 0.68
00:11:39 It'll cause you to profane the Sabbath externally, 0.73
00:11:42 outwardly, right?
00:11:44 Not keeping the Sabbath holy. 0.64
00:11:46 It'll cause you to take the Lord's name in vain,
00:11:48 to blaspheme.
00:11:49 That's a breach of the third commandment.
00:11:51 Or it would also cause you to be an idolater
00:11:55 in a public external witnessable way by making graven images or bowing down to other graven
00:12:03 images that have been made. So basically what I'm saying is this, the distinction as it pertains to
00:12:09 the civil magistrate and in which of the laws of God should he actually enforce. The distinction
00:12:17 isn't between second table, but not first table. No, it's first and second table. The distinction
00:12:23 is he enforces that which is public, but not private. And here's the cool thing. I was thinking
00:12:30 about this the other day, both in the second table and the first table of the law, you have at least
00:12:36 one commandment in each of them that is strictly private. And therefore it should not be enforced
00:12:42 or policed by the civil magistrate. But if these commandments, the 10th commandment in the second
00:12:49 table of the law coveting which is private if it's unchecked it'll cause you to externally
00:12:54 witnessably outwardly break commandments five through nine well in the first table of the law
00:12:58 if you break the first commandment that's private it's inward idolatry having another god before
00:13:05 the triune god but if it's unchecked and not accountable it'll flow over and cause you to
00:13:10 break commandments two three and four so you actually have the 10 commandments both the first
00:13:15 and second table bookended by two commandments, the very first of the 10 commandments and the
00:13:21 very last that are both private sins, private sins of the heart. But if these two private
00:13:27 sins of the heart in the heart, a breach of the first commandment, having another God that you
00:13:33 love more than the true God, or in the second table of the law, the 10th commandment, coveting
00:13:38 what God has given to your neighbor. If you break these two commandments privately and it's unchecked,
00:13:44 it'll flow over and cause you to break the other commandments publicly.
00:13:48 In the case of the first commandment, you break that privately, having other gods.
00:13:52 Eventually, you make graven images, you blaspheme, and you profane the Sabbath.
00:13:57 You covet over here, unchecked.
00:13:59 Eventually, you bear false witness, you steal, you commit adultery, you murder, or you dishonor your parents.
00:14:11 I think that's the way it works.
00:14:13 So it's really not, oh, well, the first table, that doesn't make sense for the civil magistrate
00:14:17 to be involved at all, because that's just religious, and we don't talk about religious
00:14:21 things. No, that's silly. That's the myth of neutrality. The issue is not first table versus 0.97
00:14:27 second table. The distinction of what the civil magistrate should be involved in is private versus
00:14:33 public. There's a private commandment in the first table, namely commandment number one,
00:14:37 and a private commandment in the second table, namely the last, commandment number 10. And both
00:14:42 of these will become public if unchecked. And that's where the civil magistrate steps in. I
00:14:47 think it's fairly straightforward and simple, but we have to read some dead old theologians before
00:14:52 the 1960s, before the post-war sentiment. And we have to be okay with God's word and not 0.62
00:15:01 apologize for it and give into this myth of neutrality. All right, we're going to pick up
00:15:07 a little bit more with our nation, particularly these United States of America and what could
00:15:13 very possibly be the end of our nation and how nations in general in scripture and throughout
00:15:19 history have imploded in the past and a starking similarity that I see between Israel and what's
00:15:28 going on in America today. But real quick, here is a brief word from a couple of our sponsors. 0.80
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00:15:52 to pick up actually i have some slides prepared so let's go ahead and start with the first i want
00:15:56 to work from a text okay so let's put the first one up here we go we've got um this is i believe
00:16:03 psalm go ahead and skip to the next one so i can see the reference this is psalm the book of psalms
00:16:08 next slide uh 106 so this is psalm 106 uh verses 34 through 42 so let's start with verse 34 it says
00:16:16 this what we're going to see here is a progression of sin in a corporate sense it's it's corporate
00:16:24 effects on societies as a whole on nations there is a progression it's not just overnight you know
00:16:29 people sin and then the very next day they're destroyed there is a progression so here we go
00:16:34 verse 34 psalm 106 34 they did not destroy the peoples as the lord commanded them but they mixed
00:16:40 with the nations and learned to do as they did they served their idols which became a snare to
00:16:47 them they sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons they poured out innocent blood the 0.81
00:16:55 blood of their sons and daughters whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan. Continuing, 0.92
00:17:02 then the anger of the Lord was kindled against his people and he abhorred his heritage. He gave
00:17:09 them into the hands of the nations so that those who hated them ruled over them. Their enemies
00:17:16 oppressed them and they were brought into subjection under their power. All right, so let's
00:17:23 go ahead and go to the the first of i think there's four steps here okay what we see in this
00:17:28 text the first one is you want to think of it the words not explicitly used in the text but this is
00:17:33 what it is it's pity um remember uh in deuteronomy i believe it is it says your eye shall not pity
00:17:40 it's talking about dealing out uh just retribution for those who break god's law that there should be
00:17:47 swift justice it should be proportional it should be uh unbiased right that it's um that there's
00:17:53 no favoritism that's being shown. So it's proportional, it's unbiased, and it's also
00:17:59 swift, right? Proportional meaning eye for eye, tooth for tooth. Without showing favoritism,
00:18:04 you shall not pity. And right here in Deuteronomy, it says, you shall not show favor to the rich,
00:18:10 nor pity the poor, right? Your eye shall not pity the one who has transgressed the law of God,
00:18:16 but you are to carry out just retribution, the just judgments of God. 0.86
00:18:22 In Israel, what they're doing essentially is showing pity.
00:18:26 What we see in the very beginning of Psalm 106, 34, starting in verse 34, 0.93
00:18:31 is that Israel was called to drive out these pagan, idolatrous nations from the land, 0.89
00:18:37 but instead they allowed them to cohabitate, to stay in the land. 0.73
00:18:42 Joshua initially crossed over the Jordan River with Israel, 0.76
00:18:45 and he was used by God as the commander in chief of Israel to drive out and to put to death many
00:18:51 of the people and drive out other people out of the land of Canaan, the land of promise. But Joshua
00:18:56 didn't drive everyone out. He did the lion's share of the work, right? He crushed all these Canaanite
00:19:03 kings, but there were still individual small villages and towns and tribes, men and women
00:19:09 and children that were still there. And then Joshua at the end of his life, he says, this is Joshua
00:19:14 23, I'm going the way of all the earth, right? I'm about to die. And he begins to hand out
00:19:20 allotments, all the different portions of land in the land of Canaan to each of the various
00:19:26 Israelite tribes as an inheritance. And then it was the responsibility of each individual Israelite
00:19:32 tribe, if there were any inhabitants left in their allotment of land, to drive them out. 0.73
00:19:38 But instead, these individual tribes, after Joshua had had gone on to glory and died, they became complacent and apathetic.
00:19:48 So I think there's there's apathy. I think there's a sense of maybe even just being tired, fatigue.
00:19:57 But there's also a sense of sinful pity, a sinful form of pity that they pity the Canaanites.
00:20:06 that they said well you know that i mean the kings of the canaanites have been put to death and most
00:20:11 of the soldiers and fighting men have been put to death the worst of the tribes the anakim and some 0.95
00:20:15 of these nephilim giants they've been put to death and others have been driven out uh so we're pretty 0.99
00:20:22 much we're pretty much good now right that most of the work has been done and the people who still 0.98
00:20:27 remain sure they they have a heritage and a history of being pagan people idolatrous people
00:20:33 with terrible, malicious practices, 0.98
00:20:36 religious practices such as human sacrifice,
00:20:41 but they're not really hurting us.
00:20:43 They're not affecting us.
00:20:44 The threat has been neutralized.
00:20:47 And so we'll just allow these people to coexist.
00:20:50 And so that's out of laziness, fatigue, apathy,
00:20:54 but I think it's also out of a sinful form of pity.
00:20:58 Matthew Henry, in commentating on Psalm 106
00:21:02 in regards to this point that i'm making right here he says the following when israel had got
00:21:07 to the good land that god had promised them they had no zeal against the wicked inhabitants whom
00:21:13 the lord commanded them to extropate pretending pity right so it's not genuine so not all pity
00:21:20 is sinful i'm talking about sinful pity not the sin of pity because that would imply that all pity
00:21:26 is sinful no but there is righteous pity but there is also a sinful kind of pity God the
00:21:33 scripture says that God showed pity on Israel well God doesn't sin so when God has pity it's
00:21:39 righteous God has pity that stems from his mercy but Israel in this case is pretending pity it's
00:21:47 not real righteous pity but Matthew Henry says instead of driving out the people the Canaanites
00:21:53 as they were commanded to do, instead rather pretending pity. They pretended pity, but so
00:22:00 merciful is God that no man needs to be in any case more compassionate than he. This is one of
00:22:08 the problems that we find among evangelical Christians for decades now. This is an age-old 1.00
00:22:14 problem, and it's still a problem that sadly is alive and well in the church today. We often
00:22:19 uh, pretend to be more compassionate than God himself. We pretend to be more tolerant than
00:22:26 God himself. We pretend pity, not genuine pity, not the kind of pity that God has that stems from
00:22:34 a righteous mercy, but instead we practice pity that is a perverse twisted pity. Uh, we, we humor
00:22:43 ourselves to be more merciful, more compassionate, more loving, more tolerant than God. We tolerate
00:22:50 things that God tells us not to tolerate. So that's the first problem with Israel. It's not 1.00
00:22:57 that Israel gets into the land of Canaan and under Joshua's command defeat the worst of the 0.86
00:23:02 Canaanites and then the very next day join the remaining Canaanites in offering their children 0.96
00:23:09 to Molech and passing them through the fire, right? 0.95
00:23:12 That doesn't, that's not the first thing that Israel does. 0.97
00:23:15 It's not that they come into the land
00:23:17 and immediately start committing human sacrifice.
00:23:19 No, there is a progression of sin, right?
00:23:23 They devolve into worse and worse forms of sin.
00:23:28 And the first step in the progression is pity.
00:23:32 It's tolerating what was not meant to be tolerated. 0.87
00:23:35 it's mixing with people who ultimately hate god it's allowing these these idolaters pagan canaanites
00:23:43 to co-exist in israel's land of promise that they've now inherited it's well you might say 0.63
00:23:52 principled pluralism all right well we're not going to be idolaters we're not um muslim we're not
00:24:00 um you know going to practice uh talmudic judaism we're not going to do these things we're not
00:24:07 atheists we're christians but but we want to carve out a space for them to be here and not just be 0.94
00:24:14 here that's one thing but to be here and publicly exalt their false religion right we have cities 0.92
00:24:22 in america right now that five times a day have a city-wide audible publicly audible city-wide call
00:24:29 to islamic prayer right and and all in the guise of multiple pluralism being tolerant coexisting
00:24:40 loving our neighbor this is the language that christians some christians liberal christians
00:24:46 would use uh in order to justify this sinful tolerance but this should not be tolerated
00:24:52 it should not be tolerated that's where it starts that's where you see it start with israel that 0.90
00:24:57 they allowed these other tribes to exist and not just exist, but began to intermingle and intermarry
00:25:05 between them. That's a sign of joining their ranks. So at first it's not, hey, we'd like to
00:25:11 immediately starting tomorrow, go with you to your statue to Molech and sacrifice our sons and 0.72
00:25:17 daughters. That's not the first step. The first step is, hey, you know what? You're fine. You can 0.99
00:25:22 be here. In fact, some of you, my son finds your daughter attractive and maybe they could get
00:25:29 married. And I'm not going to worship your false gods, but we'll allow you to have some of your
00:25:35 own altars to your own gods because, hey, we want to play nice with others. That's the first step.
00:25:41 All right. So now let's look at the second progression. So pity, sinful pity. Here's the
00:25:46 second, compromise. Verse 35 is where we find this. Matthew Henry in commentating on verse 35 of
00:25:54 Psalm 106, he says the following, when they spared them, they promised themselves that notwithstanding 0.85
00:26:00 this, they would not join in any dangerous affinity with these foreign nations, but the way of sin 0.93
00:26:08 is downhill. Omissions, that is the sin of omission, not doing, neglecting to do the righteous thing
00:26:14 makes way for commission sins of commission that is engaging in the wicked thing when they neglect
00:26:22 to destroy the heathen the next news we hear is they were mingled among the heathen made leagues
00:26:30 with them and contracted in intimacy with them so that they learned their works right so step one
00:26:38 pity, allowing people who hated God to have a foothold, right? It's not just to exist,
00:26:46 but to have a foothold in the land. And then secondly, not just pity, not just tolerance,
00:26:53 but now it becomes a compromise. They're intermingling, intermarrying, and allowing
00:27:00 idolatrous practices and starting to even involve themselves in some of these. This leads to the
00:27:05 third step now. All right. So here's the third step. Go ahead and pull that up. Idolatry. This
00:27:12 is Matthew Henry commentating on Psalm 106 verse 36. When they mingled with them, they learned
00:27:18 some of their works that seemed innocent diversions and entertainments, right? You start
00:27:23 with the things that seem small. This isn't so bad. Yet they thought they would never join them
00:27:28 in their worship. Yet by degrees, they learned that too. They served their idols. So not just
00:27:35 interacting and joining them in some of their practices and customs, but now joining them in
00:27:41 their idolatry, their worship. Yet by degrees, they learned that too. They serve their idols
00:27:47 in the same manner and with the same rights that they served them. And they became a snare to them
00:27:54 that sin drew on many more. That sin drew on many more. All right. So idolatry. So first it's pity.
00:28:02 You can be here and you can have your altars in high places to your false gods. We'll carve out
00:28:08 a little niche for this, this false religion and this idolatry principle, pluralism. That's the
00:28:14 name of the game, right? Sinful pity. Number two, compromise. We won't join you in your idolatry, 0.79
00:28:20 but we'll join you in some of your customs and practices, right? Step three, now we've gone from
00:28:26 pity to compromise to actual idolatry. We're joining you in your worship. We're now joining
00:28:31 you in worshiping your false gods. And then number four, it goes from pity to compromise to idolatry
00:28:38 and then to slavery and suicide. And these two are two peas in a pod. They always come as a pair.
00:28:46 One lends towards the other, and the other lends towards the one.
00:28:50 This is verses 37 and 38 of Psalm 106.
00:28:53 Again, using Matthew Henry's commentary, he says the following. 0.75
00:28:57 When Israel joined with them in some of their idolatrous services, their actual pagan worship, 0.71
00:29:03 which they thought had least harm in them, they little thought that ever they should 0.98
00:29:08 be guilty of that barbarous and inhumane piece of idolatry, the sacrificing of their living 0.92
00:29:15 children to their dead gods but they came to that at last Israel actually eventually got all the way 0.88
00:29:24 to not just joining these pagan nations in their idolatry their false worship but the the most 0.88
00:29:30 severe and sinister disgusting degrees of their pagan false worship namely child sacrifice 0.80
00:29:39 and we see that in our nation today we see that with abortion we saw that just over the weekend
00:29:49 with uh comments from uh president donald trump and saying that a heartbeat bill uh would be a
00:29:57 terrible is what he said that's his oh that'd be terrible and not terrible in the way that i would
00:30:02 say a heartbeat bill is terrible because a heartbeat bill still says hey you know what
00:30:06 it's open season you're free to murder any child before you know six weeks no but trump was saying
00:30:12 not as an abolitionist saying no murder of any babies is permissible he's saying a heartbeat
00:30:17 bill is terrible because it should be uh you should be allowed to murder uh more babies for
00:30:22 a longer period of time all the way up until maybe 15 weeks and part of the reason i think
00:30:28 trump is saying this is because he knows at this point when it comes to his base uh there are
00:30:33 people who just die hard trump and they're never going to leave him no matter what he says he can
00:30:36 completely betray him uh his party uh he can completely go back against uh the convictions
00:30:42 of his base and they're so bought in at this point that they'll take him they'll take trump
00:30:48 so he probably sees it as an opportunity simply to keep his base which he probably will keep
00:30:53 and try to get some other you know kind of like bill clinton not hillary but like bill clinton
00:31:00 1990s type of Democrats to try to pick up some of those along the way. And honestly, from a
00:31:05 pragmatic standpoint, it may work, but it was sinful for him to say it's wrong. That is absolutely
00:31:13 a barbarous and it is a great perverse sin against the Lord. So my point is in our nation,
00:31:19 you know, obviously we all know that America loves abortion, but we saw it even this last
00:31:25 weekend from president trump the very guy that god used and i'm grateful for it to overturn roe
00:31:30 by his uh appointments of supreme court justices uh is now saying hey you know what you can you
00:31:38 know it's it's terrible that we wouldn't let people murder their their babies from six to 15 weeks
00:31:44 that's terrible we should be more uh well we should have pity on these these murderous moms
00:31:52 right we should be you know we should have pity we should be more compassionate um that's so
00:31:58 anyways all this is highly relevant all this is going on around us all the time and so this is
00:32:04 the process of israel coming into the good land that flowed with milk and honey that god promised
00:32:10 to them but it shows how they eventually fell from grace how they eventually were judged and
00:32:15 then went into exile god in his just judgment took israel out of the land the land spewed them
00:32:21 out because they began to live in the land that God promised to them, that God gave to them as
00:32:27 an inheritance. They began to live in the land exactly the same way the Canaanites were. The
00:32:32 Canaanites were, they were sent out of the land and put to death at the edge of the sword by
00:32:39 Israel because, not just because God wanted to bless Israel and do good things for Israel.
00:32:43 No, it's two things simultaneously. One, God is going to fulfill his good promises to Israel, but
00:32:48 secondly god is also fulfilling his justice to these pagan nations so it's not just about giving
00:32:56 the land to israel because they're god's people but it was also about using is israel as god's
00:33:02 instrument to bring his just judgment to the canaanites the land spewed out the canaanites 0.96
00:33:09 because they were living in an idolatrous wicked fashion manner in the land but israel it thinks 0.72
00:33:17 well we can live however we want because it's not about um it's not about our actions and our 0.87
00:33:22 behaviors and our morals and our worship whether it be idolatrous and worship of false gods or or
00:33:29 right worship of the triune god it's not about worship it's not about ethics it's not about
00:33:33 morals it's just about well it's it's about dna it's about you know our it's about the fact that 0.98
00:33:41 ethnically we're god's chosen people we're the jews and so god kicked out the canaanites for
00:33:46 just for being Canaanites. And he's given us the land just for being Jews. No, God kicked out the 0.97
00:33:52 Canaanites because they were wicked. And when the Jews started looking like the Canaanites, 1.00
00:33:57 it didn't matter that they were Jews. They were sent into exile and kicked out of the land as well. 0.89
00:34:04 God is not going to show favoritism simply because your ancestors or forefathers were faithful.
00:34:12 god god is not going to tolerate america indefinitely just because the founders and
00:34:20 the covenanters and the puritans were righteous that's not going to work no if if americans are
00:34:28 going to live like pagans with child sacrifice from not just pity pitying those and tolerating 0.80
00:34:36 those who have false worship but then interacting and joining them in their practices and customs
00:34:41 that's compromise and then joining them in their actual false worship of false gods that's idolatry
00:34:47 and then eventually joining them in their their their worst forms that lends towards slavery
00:34:53 and suicide even sacrificing our own children if if americans are going to do that then god will
00:34:59 spew us out of the land just like anybody else who inhabited the land who chose to live like pagans 0.90
00:35:05 it's not about uh your forefathers it's not about your dna it's not about your ancestors it's not
00:35:12 about oh well we're this race of people uh this is we're ethnic jews we're ethnic americans that's
00:35:18 not what it's about it's about your hearts are you circumcised in heart do you worship god are 0.88
00:35:25 you righteous or are you idol worshipers baby murderers wicked ruthless heartless if so god 0.90
00:35:38 will show no favoritism and america will be spewed and i mean literally america will be spewed out of 0.99
00:35:44 the land we will be taken captive by some some foreign people right god did it with israel he 0.59
00:35:52 could do it with us that we could be completely um enslaved and defeated and in some i mean we 0.99
00:35:58 could go into world war three that's entirely possible especially if we have four more years 0.90
00:36:03 of of democrats in office but going to world war three and russia could team up with china you
00:36:08 don't know god god is well within his rights long has he been at this point especially now
00:36:15 in 2023 with our debauchery, but God is well within his rights to justly punish the nation
00:36:22 of America. Absolutely. It's not about who the people are or even their ancestry and who their
00:36:31 forefathers were. It's about who do we worship today and what are we doing today? Are we wicked
00:36:37 today? It's about your morals, about your ethics, and ultimately about your heart, about your God.
00:36:43 Is our God Yahweh? Do we worship the triune God or are we idolaters? And if we are idolaters doing
00:36:50 heinous and wicked things, how do we get there? And I would argue the way we got there is the
00:36:54 same way that Israel did. Four easy steps. Sinful pity, then compromise, joining them in their 1.00
00:37:02 customs and practices, then idolatry, joining them in their false worship, and then eventually
00:37:08 slavery and suicide by joining them the highest degrees of their idolatrous false worship
00:37:15 expressly through the form of child sacrifice. All right, let's hear a couple words from our
00:37:23 last sponsors of the day. All right, we'll go to that. We'll cut it in post. Thank you
00:37:30 guys so much for joining us and we'll see you again next week.
00:37:38 We'll be right back.