The NXR Podcast - BONUS EPISODE - Christian Nationalism Vs. Zionism

00:00:00 All right, welcome back to another live Monday with yours truly, Pastor Joel Webin.

00:00:06 I'm the host here with Right Response Ministries, and I'm going to be discussing a little bit

00:00:11 of Zionism and Christian nationalism and the distinctions between the two, talking about

00:00:16 Israel under the Old Covenant and how that is different than nations today, including

00:00:21 the nation of Israel today.

00:00:23 Israel today is not Israel under the Old Covenant.

00:00:26 There's a dynamic difference between the two.

00:00:28 So I'm going to talk about Old Covenant Israel and talk about what I mean and what others like me in our camp mean when we say that nations should kiss the sun today, pay homage to King Jesus, that they should be Christian today.

00:00:41 So we're going to get into that. We're going to use a host of different texts.

00:00:44 We're going to be looking at Joshua chapter 10, verses 29 through 43.

00:00:49 I'm preaching through the book of Joshua right now at the church where I pastor.

00:00:53 that's Covenant Bible Church in Central Texas. We're in Georgetown, Texas, about 45 minutes

00:00:58 north of Austin. If you're looking for a church and you're somewhere in the Central Texas area,

00:01:02 come check us out. Go to covenantbible.org, covenantbible.org. So we're going to use the

00:01:08 text from Joshua. That's Joshua chapter 10, verses 29 through 43. But then we're also going to be

00:01:14 cross-referencing over to Jeremiah chapter 18, verses 6 through 11. We'll also look at Psalm 19,

00:01:21 verses 1 through 4. We're also going to be looking at the book of Job. It's going to be chapter 12

00:01:28 verses 7 through 10. Briefly, look at Romans chapter 1 verse 18 through 20. We might get into

00:01:35 Leviticus chapter 18 verses 21 through 26. We might get into Genesis chapter 15 verses 13 through 16.

00:01:43 And I'll use a quote or two from the late great Puritan Matthew Henry. All of this to make a,

00:01:48 what I believe is an airtight argument for Christian nationalism being the biblical

00:01:53 position that Christians today should take, New Testament Christians, that we should have

00:01:59 Christian nations and we should be for Christian nationalism, but also again distinguishing New

00:02:04 Testament nations today, New Testament Christian nationalism from Zionism. Zionism is not biblical

00:02:12 and I will do my best to lovingly and charitably, but also courageously dismantle it because

00:02:18 it is a false doctrine that harms many, many people to this day. So before going ahead and

00:02:26 diving into the topic, and again, we'll start with Joshua chapter 10. Before we dive in,

00:02:31 let me just give you a reminder this Thursday at 1159 p.m. So the close of the day,

00:02:38 August 31st, it's the last day of this month. It's Thursday this week. Our early bird rate

00:02:44 is over. It's over. Now, I know I've had a lot of you guys reach out and say, hey, I'm planning on

00:02:49 coming to the conference. I haven't registered yet. I'm figuring out travel or I'm figuring

00:02:53 out things with my work or scheduling with my family. We'll figure it out. That's great. I get

00:02:58 it, but figure it out quickly because at the end of the day, this Thursday, August 31st, 1159 p.m.,

00:03:06 the early bird rate is done. You're going to want to register for our conference. Again,

00:03:10 this is Blueprints for Christendom 2.0. We've got Douglas Wilson, Brian Sauve, Joe Boot, Eric

00:03:17 Kahn, and myself. We're going to be having a couple panels, one on biblical patriarchy with

00:03:22 Eric Kahn and Douglas Wilson and myself, then another panel that's going to be talking about

00:03:26 all things unhinged, the Nephilim and Watchers and all these different things with Brian Sauve

00:03:31 and Ben Garrett from Haunted Cosmos and myself. And so it's going to be a great time. It's a

00:03:37 Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, March 1st, 2nd, and 3rd of 2024. That's Friday through Sunday.

00:03:44 Go to RightResponseConference.com to register. Again, not Right Response Ministries, but go to

00:03:51 RightResponseConference.com. Get the early bird rate. Get it right now. It will be over at the

00:03:58 very beginning of the day on Friday, the new month, September 1st, right? So you've got through the

00:04:05 end of the day on Thursday, come the beginning of the day on Friday, it's done. Don't miss out.

00:04:10 Go to rightresponseconference.com. One more brief announcement, and then we'll go ahead and hop in.

00:04:16 There's another conference that some of you may have heard about, and some of you may not have,

00:04:20 but if you're in the Central Texas area, I would love to meet you. I'll be speaking this Saturday,

00:04:27 actually, so it's September 2nd, this Saturday, at the Forge Conference. The theme of this year's

00:04:34 Forge Conference is The Joy of the Lord. It's in Kerrville, Texas. Kerrville, Texas, which I

00:04:40 believe, I'm not great at geography, but I think it's somewhere near Fredericksburg, if you're

00:04:44 familiar with Fredericksburg, Texas. And there's multiple different speakers that are going to be

00:04:49 here. You've got Bradley Pierce. He's the president of Abolish Abortion, Texas. So he's an abolitionist.

00:04:56 He's going to be at the conference speaking. I'll be there speaking. Justin Peters from Justin

00:05:00 Peter's Ministries. He'll be there speaking. You've got Scott Brown. He's the president of

00:05:06 Church and Family Life. He'll be there speaking. So it's going to be a great time. It's a family

00:05:11 friendly conference. Lots of mothers and fathers and children will be present. And if you're coming

00:05:17 up, it's Thursday through Saturday. But if you want to just come up for the day, so my family

00:05:22 and I, we're just going to drive up on Saturday. That's when I'll be there. So if you want to come

00:05:26 for Saturday and it's too late notice to take time off work and come up for multiple days and

00:05:31 find lodging. I totally get it. This is kind of last minute, but if you want to just come up for

00:05:35 the day, then they have a special discounted price. It's $40 for a day pass for Saturday,

00:05:41 September 2nd for an individual $40 and it's $80 for your whole family. So that'd be you,

00:05:47 your wife, your kids, you know, the whole big shebang. So 80 bucks for a family, $40 for an

00:05:53 individual. And again, that's Saturday, this Saturday, September 2nd, it's the Forge Conference.

00:05:58 The theme is the joy of the Lord. My talk is going to be on being a jovial and jolly warrior.

00:06:05 And so I encourage you guys to come out, meet me, Bradley Pierce, Scott Brown, Justin Peters.

00:06:10 And in terms of registration, I've been reliably informed. You don't need to do anything online.

00:06:15 All you have to do is just show up and at the door, it starts at 9 a.m. that Saturday at the

00:06:21 door at 9 a.m. You can just register in person. You can pay in person. Again, 40 bucks for an

00:06:27 individual, 80 for the whole family, and directions can be found on their website. So that's the only

00:06:32 thing that you'll need is just to look at the schedule and look at the directions to find the

00:06:36 location where it's being hosted. The website, I believe, is forgeministries.com. It may be

00:06:43 forgeministries.org. Oh, it's .org. Okay, so forgeministries.org. All right, let's go ahead

00:06:52 and hop into our topic today, Zionism versus Christian nationalism. All right, I want to start

00:06:58 again with Joshua 10, verses 29 through 43. For the sake of time, I'm not going to read each one

00:07:04 of these verses. I'm going to give you just a brief synopsis, and then we'll get into the meat

00:07:08 of all these other texts that I'm going to use. But let's go ahead and either way, let's throw

00:07:12 the verses up on the screen so that at least those who watch the video on YouTube, they can be able

00:07:17 to read the verses as I'm giving the synopsis. So this is Joshua chapter 10 verses 29 through 43.

00:07:24 This is what we've got. Joshua basically is wiping out every single one of the Canaanite tribes.

00:07:32 Joshua as, you know, commander in chief of Israel, they're going in and it's just tribe after tribe 0.88

00:07:39 after tribe. And what you see in the text again and again repeated is that they put every inhabitant 0.78

00:07:45 of this kingdom, this city, this town to the edge of the sword. Every single one of them. All the

00:07:51 men, not just the fighting men, but also the women and the children. So what you have is you have

00:07:55 Joshua and Israel being used by God. They are underneath a divine decree from God. God told

00:08:02 them to do this. And as they are putting men, women, and children, Canaanite tribes to the edge 1.00

00:08:08 of the sword, putting them to death. This is something that God called them to do. They're 1.00

00:08:12 wiping them out entirely. And I just want to quote real quick here, Matthew Henry, as promised. He

00:08:18 says this, nothing could justify this military execution, but that herein they did as the Lord

00:08:25 God of Israel commanded. We see that in verse 40. So let me just read verse 40. It says, so Joshua

00:08:31 struck the whole land, the hill country and the Negev and the low land and the slopes and all 0.98

00:08:37 their kings he left none remaining but devoted to destruction all that breathed just as the lord 0.97

00:08:44 god of israel commanded so they're doing what god commanded back to the matthew henry quote now 0.74

00:08:50 so nothing could justify this kind of military execution but that in this case herein they were

00:08:57 doing precisely as the lord god of israel commanded which was sufficient not only to save

00:09:03 them from imputation, that is to save them from being guilty of some kind of moral atrocity,

00:09:10 but also to sanctify what they did and make it an acceptable piece of service to God's justice.

00:09:18 So God gave the decree. Israel is simply obeying God's commandment to drive out all these people, 0.95

00:09:25 to wipe them out entirely, these Canaanite pagan tribes. And as they do this, because it's 1.00

00:09:31 commanded by God that not only absolves Joshua and Israel of any sense of moral guilt, but it also

00:09:37 sanctifies their military excursion. It actually sanctifies their work, their warfare as a sanctified

00:09:46 holy service in the sight of God. Now, all that being said, this is the point that when I preached

00:09:53 this yesterday, and I'm going deeper on this one point that I did in my sermon, but this is the

00:09:58 point that I made with my congregation. There are two things that God is doing, two big ideas.

00:10:04 And this is where I think in the Christian nationalist debate, we miss part of the story,

00:10:10 a significant part of the story. God is doing two things. Two things can be true at once.

00:10:16 On the one hand, in the first instance, God is fulfilling all the prophecies of blessing

00:10:24 given to Israel. God is causing Israel to inherit the promised land that flows with milk and

00:10:31 honey. God is giving to them this land of Canaan that God promised to them through Abraham 0.52

00:10:37 generations prior. So on the one hand, in the first instance, God is fulfilling his good promises

00:10:44 to Israel. On the second hand, right, there's a second thing going on. God is also using Israel

00:10:52 as his instrument of justice to exact his righteous and fair judgments on unbelieving

00:11:00 pagan people so god is fulfilling good promises of blessing for israel and that's unique to israel

00:11:08 at that time under the old covenant that's not going on today but the second half is and the

00:11:16 second half is that God is not only fulfilling his promises of blessing for Old Testament,

00:11:23 Old Covenant Israel, but he is also executing his just judgment on other nations who were in

00:11:31 rebellion, other nations that were pagan, that were idolaters, that were wicked, that were

00:11:36 malicious. So, God is fulfilling good promises for Israel. That's unique for Israel under the

00:11:43 old covenant, but God is also giving just retribution and judgment to bad nations. And that

00:11:51 still continues to this day. Now I'm going to get a little bit deeper into this by crossing over now

00:11:56 to Jeremiah chapter 18, verse six through 11. Now this one, I know that we've got prepared. I think

00:12:02 I put my assistant Nathan on the spot there. I didn't give him a heads up with Joshua 10, but

00:12:06 this one we've got, this is Jeremiah chapter 18, verse six through 11. Let's go ahead and throw it

00:12:11 but this one, we're going to go actually into depth. I want us to look verse by verse. So here

00:12:16 we go. Starting in verse six, this is Jeremiah chapter 18. The Bible says this, behold, like the

00:12:22 clay in the potter's hand, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel. If at any time I declare

00:12:30 concerning a nation or a kingdom that I will pluck up and break down and destroy it. And if that

00:12:37 nation concerning which I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I

00:12:43 intended to do to it. And if at any time I declare concerning a nation or a kingdom that I will build

00:12:50 and plant it, and if it does evil in my sight, not listening to my voice, then I will relent of the

00:12:58 good that I intended to do to it. Now, therefore, say to the men of Judah and the inhabitants of

00:13:04 Jerusalem, thus says the Lord, behold, I am shaping disaster against you and devising a plan against 0.98

00:13:11 you. Return everyone from his evil way and amend your ways and your deeds. So this is something

00:13:19 that God is speaking specifically to the nation of Israel through his prophet Jeremiah. But notice

00:13:27 how God makes the point. He doesn't just say, this is something that I am going to do to you,

00:13:33 Israel. And this is unique in my relationship that I only have with you. I don't interact this

00:13:40 way with any other nation. I only interact on these terms with you, Israel. Israel,

00:13:46 if I determine that I want to build you up and plant you and see you prosper and increase and 1.00

00:13:52 grow, but you choose to rebel against me, well, then I'll relent of the good I intended to do,

00:13:58 and I'll do evil, or I will send judgment to you instead. Likewise, Israel, if I decide that I want 0.94

00:14:04 to dismantle and destroy you, but because of your wickedness and hardness of heart, but you repent 0.99

00:14:11 of that, then I'll relent in sending that disaster. I do this with you, Israel, but I don't do it with 1.00

00:14:16 anyone else. No, that's not the way that God makes this point to Israel through the prophet Jeremiah.

00:14:21 Instead, he makes the point with Israel. It is specific to Israel. He says, you need to repent.

00:14:27 you're in trouble disaster is coming your way because you've you've earned it by your rebellion

00:14:33 by your disobedience but if you relent if or i'm sorry if you repent then i will relent of the

00:14:40 disaster that is coming your way instead i will show you mercy and how does god make the point

00:14:45 he says because he says this is how i interact the way you can trust that this is true is because

00:14:51 this is the way that I interact with everyone, with all nations. Behold, like clay in the potter's

00:14:57 hands, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel. That's Israel. But then verse seven, he says, 0.51

00:15:02 if at any time I declare concerning a nation, the implication being any nation. So not just right

00:15:08 now at this time with you, O Israel, but if at any time with any nation or any kingdom, if I declare 0.98

00:15:15 that I'm going to pluck up and break down and destroy it, but the nation repents, well then 0.94

00:15:20 and it turns from its evil, then I'll relent of the disaster I intended to do to it. And

00:15:25 on the flip side, if at any time I declare concerning any nation, any time, any nation,

00:15:31 any kingdom, that I want to build them up or plant them, grow them, prosper them, but they do evil

00:15:36 in my sight, not listening to my voice, well, then I'll relent of the good that I had intended

00:15:41 to do to it. So now listen, you, O Israel, you better listen up because see the point that God's

00:15:47 making through Jeremiah. And chapter 18 is this. He's saying, you should listen to me, Israel,

00:15:53 because if you think I'm bluffing, well, all you have to do is look at all the other nations

00:16:00 of the world. This is the way, this isn't unique to you. This is the way I, Yahweh,

00:16:07 the God of Israel, this is the way that I interact as a just God with all nations in all periods of

00:16:14 time. If a nation honors me, I'll exalt it. If I'm planning on sending disaster, but a nation

00:16:22 repents, I'll relent in sending the disaster and I'll show mercy instead. Here would be an example,

00:16:28 Nineveh. Nineveh is a perfect example. Nineveh was one of the five capital cities that was 1.00

00:16:37 north of the northern kingdom of Israel. This is where Jonah, the prophet, was living at the time.

00:16:46 He was in this region, and they had already, per prophecies that had been previously made by Isaiah,

00:16:53 Nineveh and other cities were already ramping up their pre-invasion attacks into the northern tribe

00:17:02 of the northern kingdom of Israel, where Jonah lived. Jonah very likely had seen some of his

00:17:07 friends and close loved ones who have been harmed or taken captive or even put to death 1.00

00:17:14 by these Ninevites. Jonah hated the Ninevites. But then, you know, Jonah is called by God to 0.95

00:17:21 go and be a prophet to Nineveh. We always get this part of the story wrong. We think

00:17:24 Jonah didn't want to go to Nineveh because he was afraid, because they were so wicked that they

00:17:29 wouldn't listen to his message of repentance. And because they wouldn't listen to his message 0.73

00:17:34 of repentance, they would turn on him, the messenger, and put him to death, kill him. 0.68

00:17:39 That's not what the Bible actually teaches. What Jonah himself actually says through prayer to God

00:17:45 is he says, is this not what I said to you in Tarshish while I was still on the way? I didn't

00:17:51 want to go to Nineveh, not because I thought that they wouldn't listen to me in the message of 1.00

00:17:55 repentance you gave me to give to them, and that they would hurt me or kill me, but instead I 0.66

00:18:01 didn't want to go to Nineveh because I thought they would listen to the message of repentance. 0.71

00:18:05 And if they listened, they would indeed actually repent. And then you, oh God, because you're just

00:18:11 a sucker for repentance and quick to show mercy and slow to anger, you would forgive the Ninevites 1.00

00:18:18 and you would relent in sending disaster and destroying them with the fire and brimstone 1.00

00:18:24 that I've been counting on, that I've been waiting for. I want the Ninevites to pay for the atrocities 1.00

00:18:30 they've committed against me and my people. So Jonah was reluctant, not just reluctant, but 1.00

00:18:35 downright refused to go to Nineveh, not because he thought Nineveh would not listen to him and

00:18:41 harm him or kill him, but because he thought that Nineveh would listen to him and that they would

00:18:46 repent and therefore God would relent in sending disaster. Here's the point. The point is that the 0.68

00:18:52 prophet Jonah, just like the prophet Jeremiah, he knew that this is the way God interacts with all

00:18:58 nations. This is not unique to Israel. Was Israel under the old covenant unique among all the

00:19:05 nations? Yes, absolutely. But we need to understand in what way. The idea that God sovereignly 0.95

00:19:12 determines to raise up nations and also decimate nations and that those nations, that what God is

00:19:20 determined to do, that God would relent in sending disaster if the nation chooses righteousness

00:19:25 and chooses to repent and that God will relent in sending good and prosperity to a nation if that

00:19:31 nation chooses evil and not to listen to his voice. We need to understand that is just the rubric.

00:19:37 That's the pattern that God has established and firmly spoken in his word in which he engages

00:19:42 every nation of the earth, not just Israel. And this is how he engages not just any nation,

00:19:48 but also at any time. So, this is before the cross, but any time that also includes after

00:19:54 the cross. So, it doesn't matter if we're in the Old Testament or if we're 2,000 years removed

00:19:59 from the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ, His life, death, and resurrection, and ascension to

00:20:05 the right hand of God the Father. A nation today, 2,000 years after Christ, Jeremiah chapter 18

00:20:11 still rings true. If God determines to raise a nation up, but that nation chooses not to listen

00:20:19 to his voice and to do what is evil in his sight, God will relent of sending them good and instead

00:20:24 will send them disaster. And if God has determined on the flip side to destroy a nation, but that

00:20:30 nation chooses to repent, God will relent in sending disaster. Exactly what God did with

00:20:36 Nineveh in the case of Jonah, and exactly what God is saying in terms of the whole pattern

00:20:41 what he's saying in terms of the principle at large through the prophet Jeremiah. Now,

00:20:47 all that having been firmly established, I now want to get a little bit more specific.

00:20:53 Jeremiah chapter 18, verses 6 through 11. Notice verse 10. It says, if a nation does evil in my

00:20:59 sight, and then it says, not listening to my voice, then I will relent of the good that I

00:21:06 intended to do to it. It doesn't just say evil in my sight, but right after that we have a comma

00:21:12 and we have the phrase not listening to my voice, as though these two things are one and the same.

00:21:20 To do what is evil in God's sight is precisely because a nation is not listening to God's voice.

00:21:28 It is to not listen to his voice. It is to that hardness of heart, that hardness of hearing,

00:21:34 as Jesus even spoke of in regards to Israel, closing your ears, hardening your heart,

00:21:40 and doubling down on your wicked actions because you refuse to listen to the voice of God. This

00:21:47 is what Jesus said even of the Pharisees. He said, you cannot bear to hear my words. You won't

00:21:52 listen. It's like God is speaking, and the person who is dead set on rebellion plugs his ears and

00:22:00 says, nah, nah, nah, nah, I can't hear you. And what God is saying here through Jeremiah in chapter

00:22:05 18 is that if a nation does what is evil in his sight, which is to not listen to his voice,

00:22:13 then that nation will not receive good from the Lord. God will relent in sending them good,

00:22:19 the good he originally intended, and instead will punish them in his just judgment. So this is what

00:22:25 we got to do now. What we need to understand is from the Bible, and I'm going to cross-reference

00:22:30 to Psalm 19, we're going to look at Job chapter 12, I'm going to look at Romans chapter 1,

00:22:34 but we need to cross-reference and understand what is the voice of God.

00:22:39 If a nation does what is evil in my sight, this is any nation, not just Israel, at any time,

00:22:44 not just the Old Testament, but still to this day, if a nation does not listen to the voice of God,

00:22:49 God will relent in sending them good. And instead, the implication is he will send them just judgments

00:22:55 of disaster. So what does it mean for a nation not to listen to God's voice? Well, first we need

00:23:00 to ask this question. How does God's voice come to nations? How does God speak? What is the

00:23:07 instrument, the avenue of God's voice to all the peoples, all the nations today? Psalm 19 verses

00:23:15 one through four says this, the heavens declare the glory of God. Let's get this one up on the

00:23:21 screen. The heavens declare the glory of God. The sky proclaims his handiwork. Look, this is speaking

00:23:28 language. The heavens declare, they speak the glory of God. That's God's voice. The sky proclaims

00:23:37 God's voice through the instrument, the avenue of the sky. Day to day, and this makes it really,

00:23:43 really on the nose, really plain. Day to day pours out speech. It's God's voice. Night to night

00:23:50 reveals knowledge. There is no speech. This is verse three now, chapter 19, verse three.

00:23:57 There is no speech, nor are there words whose voice is not heard. So not only does God's speech

00:24:04 go forward, not only does God's speech go forth to all people in all places, to all the nations,

00:24:11 but also God's speech is heard. There is no voice, there is no words that is not heard. Now, verse 4,

00:24:20 their voice goes out through all the earth and their words to the end of the world. So, Jeremiah

00:24:27 18, again, what is one of the things that's going to put a nation in bad standing with God to where

00:24:34 he will relent of doing it good and instead will send disaster? If they do evil in God's sight,

00:24:40 that's Jeremiah 18 verse 10, evil in his sight, not listening to his voice. And how does God speak?

00:24:47 Where does his voice come from? What's the avenue of his voice? Psalm 19, day to day pours out

00:24:54 speech, night to night reveals knowledge. There is no speech. There are no words whose voice is

00:25:00 not heard in Israel. No. Verse four, their voice goes out through all the earth, not just with

00:25:06 Israel and their words to the end of the world. Every nation hears the voice of God, if in no

00:25:14 other way, if they've never received a missionary or a prophet or a verse of holy writ, every single

00:25:21 nation, all the peoples have in fact heard the voice of God, if through no other avenue,

00:25:26 they have heard it by his handiwork in creation itself. The sky pours forth speech. The sky

00:25:35 proclaims his handiwork. The heavens declare God's glory. That's the heavens, the stars, the moon,

00:25:41 the sun. Day to day, the day pours out speech. The night reveals knowledge, and this speech and

00:25:48 knowledge is heard. There's no speech. There's no words that are not heard. And where are they heard?

00:25:54 By whom are they heard? Throughout all the earth. Their words, God's word, through his handiwork

00:26:01 is heard throughout the whole earth to the end of the world. Now here's the next question. So if a

00:26:08 nation does what's evil in God's sight, which is to do what's evil in God's sight, is to not listen

00:26:13 to his voice, that nation will be laid low by God. That's any nation at any time. Now what is it to

00:26:21 not listen to God's voice? What is God's voice? What's the avenue, the instrument of his voice?

00:26:25 creation. Day to day, night to night, the heavens, the skies. Now here's the next question. What is

00:26:33 the message of God's voice? We've talked about the instrument. The instrument of God's voice

00:26:37 is natural revelation, creation. What now is the contents of that message? What is God's voice?

00:26:45 Not how is he speaking, but what is he speaking? This is where we get into Job. So let's pull that

00:26:51 up real quick. This is Job chapter 12, verses 7 through 10. Starting in verse 7, the Bible says

00:26:56 this, but ask the beast, and they will teach you, the birds of the heavens, and they will tell you,

00:27:03 or the bushes of the earth, and they will teach you, or the fish of the sea will declare to you.

00:27:09 Who among all these does not know? Here's the message. So far, all we've got is how God speaks,

00:27:16 just another fleshing out of the instrument of God's speech, right? We saw that God spoke through

00:27:23 heavens, the sky, the day, the night. Now we're seeing he speaks through beasts, birds, bushes,

00:27:30 fish of the sea. But now what? Not how does God speak, but what does he speak? This is verse 9,

00:27:37 Job chapter 12, verse 9. Who among all these does not know that the hand of the Lord has done this?

00:27:46 What can we glean from that?

00:27:48 How can we interpret that?

00:27:50 Through natural revelation, God is communicating a specific message,

00:27:54 and at least one of the tenets of this message is that God is the source of all things,

00:27:58 that he's sovereign.

00:28:00 God is sovereign.

00:28:01 That nothing happens outside his providence.

00:28:04 The hand of the Lord has done this.

00:28:06 In his hand, this is verse 10 now,

00:28:08 in his hand is the life of every living thing,

00:28:12 the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind. So the second tenant of God's

00:28:19 message, what is God speaking? Not just how, but what is number one, he's sovereign. The hand of

00:28:24 the Lord has done this. Nothing happens without God orchestrating and ordaining. Everything comes

00:28:31 from God. But secondly, God is the one who creates and sustains the source of not just all that

00:28:37 occurs, all that happens, all events, but he is the source, the life source of every living thing,

00:28:43 everything that has breath in its lungs. So God is the author of life and he's the sovereign one.

00:28:48 He's the creator and sustainer and he is the sovereign orchestrator of everything that

00:28:54 happens. And why is Job saying this? This is Job actually, because it's a discourse between Job and

00:28:59 his friends. Well, Job's three miserable friends, they come and they do good at first. They sit

00:29:03 there for seven days without opening their mouth because Job is in such torment. But eventually,

00:29:08 right, the Bible says even a fool is thought wise if he shuts his mouth. But eventually, 0.98

00:29:13 Job's foolish friends, they open their mouth, begin to speak. And essentially what it boils 0.99

00:29:16 down to is they say, Job, all these bad things are happening because it's your fault. You must

00:29:21 have sinned against God. You must have done something terrible. And Job, one of his counters

00:29:26 is he says, essentially he says, beast have better theology than my friends. Fish in the ocean

00:29:33 have better doctrine than my friends. There are bushes and birds that understand the truths about

00:29:40 God better than my friends. And what are those truths about God? That the creation speaks. How

00:29:46 does God speak? Through creation. What does he speak that Job's friends don't know, but creation

00:29:50 is plainly saying that his friends should know because God is speaking through creation. What

00:29:55 is the message? That God is the one who orchestrates all things. The hand of the Lord has done it. He's

00:30:00 sovereign and he sustains, made, created, and sustains all things. He is the author of life,

00:30:07 every living thing, and everything that has breath in its lungs. So what does it mean for a nation

00:30:12 not to listen to the voice of God? It is to ignore and rebel against the fact that they know,

00:30:20 even pagans, unregenerate men, unregenerate people, they know that God is sovereign and God

00:30:27 is the creator and the source of all life. God speaking through creation is not just in regards

00:30:34 to the second table of the law. God does not in creation, his voice that nations are supposed to

00:30:41 hear, and if they don't, they'll be punished. The voice of God and what God is communicating,

00:30:45 not just how through creation, but what God is saying through creation is not just things

00:30:50 pertaining to the second table of the law. God is not just speaking through the sky and the heavens

00:30:55 and the day and the night and the birds and the bushes and the beasts and the fish. God is not

00:31:00 just speaking through creation that we should love our neighbor as ourself, that we shouldn't

00:31:04 steal, that we shouldn't covet, that we shouldn't murder. God is not just speaking a message of the

00:31:09 second table of the law in regards to how we should treat our neighbor. God is also speaking

00:31:14 things precisely about himself, things concerning his own nature, that he is sovereign, that he is

00:31:22 king. Sovereign means king. He is ruler. He is in authority over all things. He's the creator,

00:31:28 the sustainer, and the ruler over all things. This is one of the core tenets of the message of

00:31:35 what God is speaking. How is he speaking? Through creation. Who is he speaking to? All nations,

00:31:41 in all places, in all times. And if nations don't listen to that voice, they'll be punished. And if

00:31:48 nations do listen to that voice, blessed is the nation whose God is Yahweh. They will be blessed

00:31:55 and exalted. This is one of the core tenets of Christian nationalism. We'll get into a little

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00:35:11 clear enough, let's use one more text to talk about what God is speaking. Who is he speaking to?

00:35:16 all the nations in all places in all times not just israel in the old covenant in the old testament

00:35:24 but all nations in all places in all times even 2 000 years after the coming of christ that's who

00:35:31 he's speaking to how is god speaking so we've covered the who the how through creation that's

00:35:37 how he's speaking what is god speaking not just that we should love our fellow man not just love

00:35:43 for our neighbor, the second table of the law, commandments five through 10, but God is also

00:35:48 speaking explicitly in regards to himself and by way of implication, man's moral obligation

00:35:57 towards God. What are we called to do in light of the fact that God exists, that he is king,

00:36:04 he's an authority, he is sovereign, and he is creator. He is the source and sustainer of all

00:36:11 life. So we saw a little bit of that in Job chapter 12 verses 7 through 10, that God speaks

00:36:17 not just in regards to our obligation to our fellow man, but our obligation to not just love

00:36:23 our neighbor as ourself, but love the Lord our God. We see this even more plainly in the New

00:36:28 Testament, Romans chapter 1 verse 18 through 20. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against

00:36:34 all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth

00:36:42 for what can be known about God is plain to them because God has shown it to them he's spoken

00:36:50 for his invisible attributes namely right the second table of the law and how you should love

00:36:56 no his invisible attributes about himself namely his eternal power and divine nature

00:37:03 have been clearly perceived. So, not just has the message gone out, but the message has been

00:37:10 received. People lie, they say, they claim ignorance, but the problem isn't that man is

00:37:16 ignorant in a true sense, and therefore, because he's truly ignorant, well, he can't help but rebel. 0.95

00:37:22 No, no, no. The Bible says precisely the opposite, that man is actually rebellious. He is first and 0.99

00:37:29 foremost rebellious. It's not an intellectual hang-up, but a moral problem. Because man is

00:37:36 rebellious, he claims to be ignorant by lying and suppressing the truth, which not just has this

00:37:42 truth gone out from God, but it has been clearly perceived. That's Romans chapter 1 verse 20.

00:37:50 Ever since the creation of the world in, back to the how, the instrument of God speaking,

00:37:55 in the things that have been made so that they are without excuse every individual person is

00:38:03 without an excuse and every collective nation of persons is likewise without an excuse god has been

00:38:11 speaking he pours forth speech through natural revelation creation by what he has made he has

00:38:19 been doing this ever since the creation of the world so god has always been speaking by what he

00:38:25 has made, who is he speaking to? Everyone, in all places, in all times. He speaks to individuals.

00:38:32 He speaks to kings and princes and nations. And what does he speak? Not just things like,

00:38:39 do not murder, do not steal, do not covet, do not lie. Not just things in regards to how we

00:38:45 should love our fellow man, our neighbor, but God is speaking things regarding himself,

00:38:50 that we should love him. The first table of the law is included in natural revelation.

00:38:59 I'll say that again. The first table of the law, man's obligation, commandments one through four

00:39:05 in Exodus 20, man's obligation to love the Lord our God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength

00:39:12 is included in natural revelation. God is saying that he is sovereign. That's Job chapter 12.

00:39:18 We saw that verses 7 through 10, that he is sovereign, he's orchestrating and ordaining all things.

00:39:24 That means he's in control, he's in authority, he is king, he is ruler, and he is the creator and sustainer and the source.

00:39:33 He has made all things and upholds all things, the sustainer of all life.

00:39:38 Likewise, Romans chapter 1, verse 18 through 20, things about God, not just about our relationship horizontally with our neighbor,

00:39:46 but things about God are plain to all people because God has shown us he has spoken through

00:39:52 natural revelation his invisible attributes eternal power divine nature this message has

00:39:59 gone out from God through creation and it has been received it has been clearly perceived by man

00:40:06 man's fundamental problem is not that he is ignorant and therefore can't help but rebel 0.70

00:40:11 rather man is rebellious and therefore lies and attempts to give himself a self-lobotomy 0.97

00:40:19 in order to try to become ignorant to take the revelation that he actually does have that he

00:40:26 has perceived he has received from God and throw it away hide it bury it under the dirt because 0.86

00:40:32 he doesn't want to know because he wants to do his own thing he wants to rebel he wants to be his

00:40:39 own king rather than having a sovereign king of kings above him. All men are without an excuse.

00:40:47 All nations likewise are without an excuse. This is why Psalm chapter 2 says to the kings,

00:40:54 not just peasants and paupers, but the kings of this world, kiss the son lest he be angry and his

00:41:02 wrath quickly kindled. There is a king above kings. The Bible doesn't just speak to individual

00:41:09 people, but it speaks to nations and it speaks to rulers of nations. The kings of the earth are

00:41:15 called to pay homage to the King of Kings, to Jesus Christ. Now, let's look at Leviticus

00:41:22 chapter 18, verses 21 through 26. There are a couple sins. So now we're going to get into the

00:41:28 second table of the law. We're going to get into a couple things in regards to loving our neighbor,

00:41:33 breaches of commandments in the Ten Commandments, the Decalogue, Commandments 5 through 10,

00:41:39 two things in particular, that when these sins occur, not just with an individual, but they occur

00:41:46 at a mass scale by a collection, corporately, a group of people, a nation, these are things that

00:41:54 God will send swift judgment for and the form often, often the instrument of God's judgment

00:42:03 will be the actual land that this nation inhabits. Okay, Leviticus chapter 18 verses 21 through 26

00:42:12 says this, you shall not give any of your children to offer them to Molech and so profane the name 0.99

00:42:20 of your God. I am the Lord. You shall not lie with a male as a woman, as with a woman. It is 0.87

00:42:29 an abomination. Do not make yourselves unclean by any of these. The two things that I've mentioned

00:42:36 so far in Leviticus chapter 18 verses 21 and 22 is abortion and sodomy. Do not offer your children 0.99

00:42:44 to Molech, and so profane the name of your God. Also, you shall not lie with a male as with a 0.97

00:42:52 woman, for it is an abomination. Okay, so those are the two sins mentioned so far, abortion 1.00

00:42:58 and homosexuality. Now, verse 24, what happens when not just one random individual, but when a

00:43:04 nation, a collective people at a mass scale choose to engage in these two particular sins? What

00:43:11 happens. Verse 24 of Leviticus 18, do not make yourselves unclean by any of these things for by

00:43:18 all these, the nations I am driving out before you have become unclean and the land became unclean

00:43:27 so that I punished its iniquity and the land vomited out its inhabitants. 0.90

00:43:33 the land vomited out its inhabitants if you're ever wondering right so we've already covered this

00:43:41 how what's the instrument of god speaking natural revelation creation well likewise because creation

00:43:48 is the instrument through whom god speaks creation is we can determine on god's side

00:43:55 creation is on god's side yes creation is under a curse because of the sin committed by adam in

00:44:01 the garden. Creation is under a curse because of man's sin, but creation, even being under this

00:44:08 curse, is on its creator's side, meaning God speaks through creation. And if man sins against

00:44:16 God, particularly in these ways, creation will be not only God's instrument of speech, but it will

00:44:23 become God's instrument of judgment. It's not just that God will turn against that people who rebels

00:44:30 against him, but God will cause even the land, the creation to turn against that people.

00:44:37 So that a nation of people that inhabits a particular place, that that place, the land 0.94

00:44:43 will vomit out the people, that the land itself will no longer abide its inhabitants because the 0.96

00:44:51 land, the trees, the rocks, the rivers, the seas, the land is on God's side. And when the people 0.98

00:44:58 turn against God, he is slow to anger, but eventually he sends judgment. And often this

00:45:05 judgment, particularly for the sins listed in Leviticus chapter 18, this judgment will come

00:45:10 through the avenue of natural disasters through the land. This is not something unique to Israel.

00:45:18 This is not something unique to the Old Testament. This is God's word for all peoples in all times

00:45:24 in all places. This is not to say that any isolated natural disaster is directly rooted with

00:45:32 the sin of that people. I'm not saying that. But as a general principle, I'm not going to go so far

00:45:39 as to say that no natural disaster is rooted with sin. That's just not biblical. So I'm not going

00:45:47 to say this tower, right? Jesus gives this as an example. The Tower of Siloam fell and collapsed

00:45:54 and this many people were killed. Do not think that those people were any worse than you. So

00:45:58 I'm going to take my cues from Jesus. I'm not going to say that this individual isolated natural

00:46:05 disaster that happened in this place to these people was because of those people's sin and

00:46:10 this is the particular sin that was committed. I'm not saying that. But I am saying as a general

00:46:14 principle, yes, God punishes nations for sin. He usually does it slowly. So if you're thinking

00:46:21 this sin just occurred, and this natural disaster immediately followed, then that's probably not

00:46:27 a one-to-one ratio, a direct correlation. Why? Because God is patient, long-suffering, and slow

00:46:32 to anger. Usually, when there is a disaster that is a result of sin, God's judgment, it's usually

00:46:40 well after the fact of the sin that actually took place in the first book, generations after,

00:46:47 in fact. Let me give you a reference for that now. This is the final verse I want us to look at.

00:46:52 Genesis chapter 15 verses 13 through 16. It says this,

00:46:56 Then the Lord said to Abram, Know for certain that your offspring will be sojourners in a land

00:47:01 that is not theirs and will be servants there, and they will be afflicted for 400 years. He's 0.68

00:47:07 talking about their bondage in Egypt. But I will bring judgment on the nation that they serve, 0.99

00:47:14 and afterward they shall come out with great possessions. As for you, Abraham, you shall go to 0.98

00:47:21 your fathers in peace. You shall be buried in a good old age. Now look at this, verse 16, Genesis 0.99

00:47:26 15, 16. And they, that is your descendants, shall come back here where Abraham was in the land of

00:47:35 Canaan. They shall come back here in the fourth generation for the iniquity of the Amorites is not 1.00

00:47:42 yet complete. What is God saying? God is showing Abraham hundreds of years prior, the land that 1.00

00:47:51 flows with milk and honey, the land that is going to be he and his descendants' inheritance.

00:47:56 He's showing him that land. It's currently inhabited by pagan people. And God's saying,

00:48:01 Abraham, you're not going to go to war with these people. You're going to die in a time of peace.

00:48:06 You're going to die at a ripe old age. But your descendants, hundreds of years later,

00:48:11 I will eventually bring them back to this land and they will conquer the wicked, pagan inhabitants 1.00

00:48:18 of this land. And why? Why am I going to wait so long to do that? Part of it, as I said at the very 1.00

00:48:24 beginning of the video, two things are true at once. God's doing two things simultaneously. One,

00:48:29 God is fulfilling his good promises to Israel. And Israel, because of their hard-heartedness,

00:48:35 because of their unbelief, they are causing things to slow down. So, one, God is taking a long time 0.96

00:48:45 to fulfill these good promises to Israel, Abraham's descendants, because of Israel's rebellion. But

00:48:50 two, God is also taking a long time to fulfill these good things to Israel because in one foul

00:48:57 swoop, God's fulfillment of his good promises to Israel is also going to be the execution of his

00:49:02 judgment to the Canaanites. And God is slow to anger, abounding in love. He is long-suffering.

00:49:10 He is patient and not just a special deal with Israel under the Old Covenant, but a deal that

00:49:16 God has set up that still holds true. It's still good to this day with all nations and all places

00:49:21 in all times. God will relent in sending disaster. If any nation, if any people choose to repent,

00:49:29 The Canaanites did not choose to repent and so God fulfilled his good promise to Israel 0.94

00:49:37 and he fulfilled his promise of judgment to Canaan and God did all this. 0.99

00:49:43 My point is hundreds of years after Canaan had been idolatrous, wicked, malicious, violent, 0.99

00:49:51 all these sins had been going on for generations and generations and then the judgment came. 0.98

00:49:57 So, does God judge nations for their sin? Yes. Does God judge nations through the land and natural

00:50:07 disaster for their sin, and particularly the sins of abortion and sexual perversion? Yes. 0.96

00:50:16 Does God's judgment for those sins come immediately, the next day after those sins are

00:50:22 committed no why because god is patient he is just but he is also patient all right the last thing

00:50:32 that i want to say is this there is no nation today since the life death burial resurrection

00:50:40 and ascension of jesus christ the outpoint of the spirit at pentecost the ending the final ending

00:50:48 rolling up like a garment of the Old Covenant and the destruction of Jerusalem in 80-70.

00:50:54 Since these events, there has never been since then a nation like Israel under the Old Covenant. 0.67

00:51:02 And you know who that includes? Israel. Even Israel is not Israel under the Old Covenant. 0.88

00:51:10 Israel today, the nation-state of Israel that exists today, is not Israel under the Old Covenant.

00:51:18 the Bible is clear in the Old Testament prophets that God divorced Israel. He gave them an official

00:51:26 statement, certificate of divorce. Israel despised God's promises. They despised their

00:51:34 inheritance. They chose to harden their heart. They chose again and again and again and again

00:51:41 to rebel against God, to rebel against Christ. And in the final analysis, the climax of their

00:51:50 rebellion is that Jesus came to his own and they received him not. It's the Romans who legally put 0.95

00:51:58 Jesus to death, but it is the Jews who call for it. And they even say to Pilate, because Pilate 1.00

00:52:05 didn't want to do it. He wanted to wash his hands of the guilt and the responsibility. He knew that

00:52:10 Jesus was an innocent man. Now, Pilate was a coward. He wanted to please the people. He was 0.99

00:52:17 up. He was a politician. He was up for re-election. So Pilate, you know, he kowtowed and gave in to

00:52:23 the people. But Pilate says this. He says, look, I'm not going to do this. You're going to do this.

00:52:28 I'll send the Roman centurions, you know, the soldiers to actually drive the nails through 0.99

00:52:33 his hands and feet. But this is going to be on you. And Israel literally responds by saying, 0.96

00:52:38 let his, Jesus, his blood be on us and our children forever.

00:52:46 Israel killed Jesus. 0.54

00:52:48 They rebelled against God for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years, 0.87

00:52:52 and eventually they even killed the Jewish Messiah who came from their heritage. 0.61

00:52:59 Israel today is not Israel under the old covenant. 0.65

00:53:02 What we have today is not.

00:53:04 People think this, and it's a huge misconception, and it needs to be cleared up.

00:53:08 people think that Judaism is Christianity minus the New Testament. They think that Judaism today

00:53:15 is half of Christianity. That's not true. See, both Christianity and Judaism have the Old

00:53:22 Testament, but then we both have a lens for understanding and interpreting and reading

00:53:29 the Old Testament. For Christianity, we have the Old Testament, and then we have the New Testament,

00:53:35 the apostolic writings and the four gospels in order to properly understand the old testament

00:53:42 the torah in judaism talmudic judaism they have the old testament and then instead of the new

00:53:50 testament they have the talmud for interpreting the old testament and what the talmud does

00:53:57 is that it perverts and twists every single part of the old testament so it's not that we have as 0.63

00:54:04 Christians Old plus New Testament, and Jews have just Old Testament. No, we have Old Testament 0.95

00:54:10 rightly understood through New Testament, and the Jews have Old Testament perverted by the Talmud. 1.00

00:54:19 So it's not that they have half of the truth. They have none of the truth. They hate Jesus. 0.99

00:54:28 They hate Jesus. That's why I've said it publicly, and I'll say it again,

00:54:32 that judeo-christian that phrase that hyphenated phrase judeo is is an oxymoron

00:54:41 it's um it's a misnomer it's like saying jumbo shrimp right it's it's not it it makes no sense

00:54:50 there is no such thing as judeo-christian that would be the equivalent of saying

00:54:56 non-christian christian or anti-christian christian or we hate jesus christian or

00:55:07 perversion of the scripture christian that it's no it there's no such thing there's not

00:55:13 so there was a unique covenant that god established with israel in the old testament

00:55:19 that covenant has officially ended it has long been ended but there are covenants not the old

00:55:27 covenant that god made with israel and not the new covenant that god exclusively makes with the

00:55:33 church the replacement for israel is not the united states of america it's not england it's not france

00:55:41 The replacement for Israel, Old Covenant Israel, is the New Testament church.

00:55:49 So there is the Old Covenant that God had with Israel that is done and is no longer, 0.86

00:55:54 completely dismantled, completely done.

00:55:58 And then there is the New Covenant that God has with the church.

00:56:03 Now, when it comes to other nations, like America, we, I believe, have a covenant with God.

00:56:10 but it's not the old covenant what Israel had in the old testament it's not a one-to-one ratio

00:56:16 it's very different so we don't have the old covenant that Israel had in the old testament

00:56:21 with God and America is not a part of the new covenant that God established exclusively with

00:56:28 regenerate people by grace through faith in Christ alone in the church so nations today I do believe

00:56:34 can have a covenant with God it won't be the new covenant which is the only eternally saving

00:56:39 covenant, and it's not the old covenant that was only with Israel that no nation has today,

00:56:45 including Israel today. They don't have that old covenant today either. But what we can have is

00:56:50 national covenants with God that are not salvific in the eternal sense. They're not the new covenant,

00:56:56 they're not the old covenant, but still to this day, the principle is true that God interacted

00:57:03 in the Old Testament with other nations besides Israel. Not in the same way, but God had an

00:57:09 interaction with other nations. Blessed is any nation whose God is Yahweh. The nation that fears

00:57:15 the Lord will be exalted. A nation that hears God's voice and does what is good in his sight

00:57:22 will receive good from the Lord. A nation who does what is evil in God's sight and does not

00:57:28 hear God's voice that comes through special revelations, certainly, but to all nations,

00:57:34 even if they don't have a Bible or a preacher or an evangelist, through natural revelation,

00:57:38 every single person, every tribe, tongue, every nation has heard God's voice, and God's voice

00:57:45 speaks not just the second table of the law, what is good and moral in regards to our relationship

00:57:50 with our neighbor, but also first table of the law, that God is sovereign, God is king,

00:57:55 God is creator, God is the source of life, that God, his invisible attributes have been clearly

00:58:01 perceived, right, that his eternal power, his divine nature, these things we know, every nation

00:58:08 knows these things, and nations that embrace these things, and not just in word, but in deed,

00:58:15 that they actually formally embrace these things and seek to live by these truths,

00:58:20 will be blessed by God. Nations that do not will be cursed by God. And eventually,

00:58:28 not immediately, but over time, because God is slow in his anger and patient and kind,

00:58:33 eventually God will judge those nations including ours if we do not repent and one of the ways that

00:58:39 he will judge us particularly because of the specific sins our nation has engaged in will be

00:58:46 by turning the creation the land itself against us its inhabitants that we are spewed out whatever

00:58:53 that might look like drought famine disease plague so all this being said nations can have a covenant

00:59:03 with God. I believe that America does have a covenant with God and that currently we're in

00:59:07 the process. It's not that we're not a Christian nation. It's that we are a Christian nation

00:59:11 with a Christian covenant. The problem is that we are currently in the process of apostatizing.

00:59:19 And because of that, our judgment, I believe, will be even stricter. I believe we're under

00:59:23 judgment now and that judgment will only heat up if we don't repent. So nations today should be

00:59:31 christian nations christian nations christian nationalism is not going away you may not like

00:59:38 the phrase that's fine you can pick something else but every nation must be christian and the

00:59:43 kings and rulers of every nation must kiss the son that is pay homage to king jesus and nations

00:59:51 today can enter in to a covenant a transaction a relationship with god it will not be the old

00:59:58 covenant, which was unique to Israel. And it certainly is not the new covenant, which is

01:00:03 unique to the church. But to say that relationships today are arbitrary and that they have no

01:00:08 relationship with God whatsoever, that they can't be Christian, that they can't be in covenant with

01:00:15 Yahweh, is to skip over so many massive portions of scripture. It's hard to even begin to have that

01:00:25 argument. All right. I hope that that's helpful for you. I'll probably try to get a little bit

01:00:31 more into Zionism in the future. I know that I only really addressed it some here at the end,

01:00:37 that Israel today is not Israel under the old covenant in the old Testament. So I did address

01:00:42 that. I'll try to address it a little bit more thoroughly in the future. I want to do it

01:00:46 carefully. I don't want to be extreme. I don't want to be rude. I don't want to be hateful or

01:00:51 spiteful, but I also want to be courageous and truthful. I want to be courageous and truthful.

01:00:56 And I believe that dispensationalism has not helped the church and has not helped Western

01:01:02 civilization in any way whatsoever. And out of dispensationalism, a rejection of the historic

01:01:08 view, which is covenant theology, out of dispensationalism is where we get Zionism. 0.77

01:01:14 And out of Zionism, that's where we get a lot of some of the problems that we have 0.52

01:01:18 in the political landscape today. It's Zionistic, which comes from bad reading of the scripture,

01:01:26 which was dispensationalist. And the solution is the truth of God's word, a return to the 0.95

01:01:33 historic Christian faith, a denial of dispensationalism and Zionism, an embrace of

01:01:38 covenant theology, an understanding of the old covenant with Israel and the way that it's done,

01:01:43 the way that it has ended, and an understanding of how God engages with nations today, including

01:01:49 Israel. Israel can engage with God today also, but it doesn't have any special privileges.

01:01:56 Israel can choose to be a Christian nation and stop hating Jesus and kiss the sun and pay honor

01:02:01 to King Jesus, just like any other nation. And if they do, they'll be blessed. And each individual

01:02:07 person in Israel who trusts in Jesus with saving faith will not just be blessed temporally

01:02:12 and tangibly in this life as nations are in a physical earthly sense, but that individual

01:02:18 person who puts saving faith in Jesus will be eternally saved. The gospel is for the Jew first 0.92

01:02:24 and the Gentile. We believe this. This is what the Bible teaches, but it needs to be talked about 1.00

01:02:30 because there's so much just intense rhetoric these days that if anybody tries to eat just

01:02:38 with a cool calm collected tone address these things from the scripture people immediately say

01:02:43 racist anti-semite um you know uh you're you're misogynist you're the all these different words

01:02:52 and these words that a lot of them don't really even mean anything they're just words that have 0.94

01:02:57 been coined to say shut up be quiet sit down stop talking because we don't like what you're saying

01:03:07 but we can't shut up and we can't sit down and we can't be quiet we need to we need to tell

01:03:15 people the truth because the truth of God's word is good for all people it's good for Jews it's

01:03:22 good for Gentiles we need God's truth we need Christ all right thank you guys so much for

01:03:27 tuning in and we hope to see you again next week 0.98

01:03:37 We'll be right back.

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The NXR Podcast - August 31, 2023

BONUS EPISODE - Christian Nationalism Vs. Zionism

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