The NXR Podcast - BONUS EPISODE - From Christendom Back To Paganism ｜ Secularism Was Just A Placeholder ｜ Live with Pastor Joel

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00:00:40 Hi, this is Pastor Joel with Right Response Ministries, and you are watching one of our

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00:03:14 our website. All right, all that being said, first thing that I want to address real quick before I

00:03:18 get into the topic, I want to talk about secularism and that it is a joke. It has always been a joke

00:03:24 and Christians need to be aware that it is a joke. Secular humanism is not a thing. It's not a real 0.94

00:03:31 thing. It's not a viable worldview. It has always been a temporary placeholder between two dominant

00:03:38 worldviews and that is Christendom and paganism. Christendom and paganism and as our culture is

00:03:44 currently eroding because of our rebellion because I do believe that America is in a covenant with

00:03:50 God but we are currently apostatizing we're walking away from that rebelling against the

00:03:56 founding of this country and ultimately rebelling against the Lord Jesus Christ and the word of God

00:04:02 and as we're doing that I believe that America is under God's judgment and has been for a few

00:04:06 decades now at least and that judgment is getting more severe as our rebellion gets more severe and

00:04:12 we are eroding the foundations, those Christian biblical foundations. It is not a Judeo-Christian

00:04:19 ethic. I want to be really clear about that. Saying Judeo-Christian, Judeo-Christian,

00:04:26 that's like saying anti-Christian Christian. It doesn't make any sense. And that kind of leads

00:04:34 into the thing I want to start with anyway. So let's start with this. Who killed Jesus?

00:04:37 right seems relevant yesterday was resurrection day um easter if your conscience can handle that

00:04:44 which uh is not pagan for the record that's what people have to learn this uh that's what that's

00:04:50 what christendom does it crushes puny gods remember the hulk right marvel he takes loki and slams him

00:04:57 back and forth back and forth and he says puny god right that's all other gods are puny gods now

00:05:03 it's not that they're fake gods they're not real gods we're going to get into that there is a

00:05:06 reality, a spiritual reality there, and in certain cases, a physical reality as well. 0.96

00:05:11 But they're all puny. They're false gods in the sense that they are not the one true God. That 0.83

00:05:16 doesn't mean they don't exist, but they're not the one true God. And that's what Christendom does.

00:05:19 The Christian gospel, wherever it has gone, it has eradicated pagan rituals and customs and 0.73

00:05:25 traditions and eradicated pagan religion and gods and false pagan worship. However, in some cases,

00:05:32 it has redeemed certain things and made it all about the lord jesus um adding really i and this

00:05:39 isn't oh well can we keep a little bit of paganism you know but just give it a christian spin no it's

00:05:44 not that mindset it's not compromise um it's actually it's actually adding insult to injury

00:05:50 instead of just decimating a pagan practice it takes the very thing that satan loved and that

00:05:58 he was using to oppress people that he was using to mock god and then turning it against him it's

00:06:04 a very biblical thing it's a perfectly biblical thing um however that being said there's really

00:06:09 in my study in my assessment there is no definitive objective proof that easter um

00:06:15 has pagan roots um so all that being said you might say whoa but it has roman roots the roman

00:06:21 you know the church calendar and what okay the normie christian just can't it just doesn't know

00:06:28 what time it is we need the sons of this car we need to wake up um just for the record the devil

00:06:33 loves let me just say this is gonna i'm gonna lose half of my followers with this the devil loves

00:06:39 the sentiment and rhetoric it says i'm not gonna do christmas because it has pagan roots i'm not

00:06:45 going to do Easter because it has pagan roots. The devil loves that. One of the things that has 0.73

00:06:52 kept Western civilization within a reasonable degree of order and civility for so long is,

00:06:59 I mean, the chief thing is Christodom. But Christodom marking the calendar, marking all of

00:07:04 our holy days. It's down to the days of the week and the days of the year and our customs and our

00:07:11 practices our places are the way that we aesthetically um architecture and decoration

00:07:16 and schooling and education and of course government and law and judicial system and

00:07:21 all these things um steeped in the christian faith steeped in chrysidom um and and the aversion of

00:07:28 like well i'm i don't want to i don't want to do that i don't want to celebrate this because

00:07:32 it might be a winter solstice with you know greek mythology and they put trees you know inside of

00:07:38 their houses and yeah but they put them upside down and they you know they hung fruit on them

00:07:44 and all these kind of things to ward off a difficult you know winter season that they

00:07:48 would still be plentiful and have a harvest and all these kinds of things uh you've heard my you

00:07:52 know well maybe you haven't but go back and hear my take on halloween that's one that i think just

00:07:57 needs to be ground to dust and and eradicate it because it's it hasn't been redeemed by christ

00:08:03 the catholic church has attempted to redeem that one but they've made it about praying to the dead

00:08:07 which is completely unbiblical the bible literally says that we don't do that right so we don't um so

00:08:14 all hallows eve you know all saints um praying to dead saints and those kinds of things so that does

00:08:19 have uh certainly a pagan origin uh rome came and and tried to tried to christianize it and rome

00:08:26 christianized other things but it was not successful in the case of halloween because

00:08:31 um well because it it got into its idolatry and all the ways that rome is not christian sadly

00:08:37 Roman Catholicism and so but with Christmas they made it about the incarnation which is biblical

00:08:43 and with Easter about the resurrection I prefer to say happy resurrection day rather than happy

00:08:51 Easter but all those things mean as they may in Easter it's still it's debatable whether or not

00:08:56 a pagan holiday was actually even taken and Christianized or whether or not this just has

00:09:00 Christian origins from the very beginning but in both cases thoroughly biblical basis the incarnation

00:09:06 of christ his birth and the resurrection bodily resurrection of christ um the empty tomb it's

00:09:13 great it's not just fine it's not just permissible it's great if somebody wants to reject that

00:09:18 they're allowed to right that's see romans right paul says you know one man considers one day to

00:09:22 be more holy than the others another man considers all days to be alike neither should judge each

00:09:27 other in their conscience um so if if you don't want to make special provisions for easter you

00:09:34 know you know why it doesn't matter it doesn't matter because easter is a sunday by design

00:09:38 always and if you're a christian uh every sunday is the lord's day it's the first day of the week

00:09:44 when christians have have worshiped gathered for corporate worship aka church for two thousand

00:09:51 years and not just and that's not oh sunday is the you know the sun god and the catholic church

00:09:57 took that no the the the sabbath of saturday the final day the seventh day of the week that

00:10:03 ended with Christ and his resurrection. It did. And you can track it all the way back to that

00:10:11 moment, not 300 or 400 AD, all the way back to Jesus and his resurrection. Jesus is Lord of the

00:10:17 Sabbath. He doesn't eradicate or remove or abrogate the Sabbath. It's a creation ordinance,

00:10:23 right? It existed. It didn't come into play merely on tablets of stone in Exodus 20 at Mount Sinai

00:10:29 and it doesn't just belong to old covenant Israel according to the flesh.

00:10:35 The Sabbath comes into play on the seventh day when God rested, right?

00:10:40 It comes into play. It's a creation ordinance. 0.78

00:10:42 It comes into play before sin ever even entered the world,

00:10:44 much less the covenant that God made with Abraham and Israel and those kinds of things.

00:10:49 So the Sabbath is, in that sense, it's a creation ordinance.

00:10:53 It's not abrogated. Jesus doesn't remove the Sabbath.

00:10:56 He renews the Sabbath.

00:10:57 So as Lord of the Sabbath, he doesn't end it, he changes it.

00:11:00 And he changes it from the last day of the week to the first day of the week.

00:11:03 And there are gospel reasons for that.

00:11:08 Under the old covenant, six days shall you work.

00:11:11 And then there's a sense in which we're rewarded with that seventh day of rest

00:11:15 after having worked six days.

00:11:17 But in this gospel dispensation, for lack of a better word,

00:11:20 church age, gospel age, because of Christ and because of the beauty of the new covenant,

00:11:26 the covenant of grace we begin our week we don't work for six days rewarded by one day of rest but

00:11:32 rather we start the week resting in Christ we start with rest by grace alone through faith alone in

00:11:38 Christ alone not about our works and then our works come after six days of work following a

00:11:43 day of resting in free grace in the risen Lord Jesus Christ and the work it comes about naturally

00:11:51 as the evidence as the result of that resting in Christ the gospel producing fruit rather than

00:11:56 working to earn the gospel so the sabbath is still a thing and the first day of the week the

00:12:03 day that Christ Jesus rose from the dead Christians have gathered on that day on Sunday not because of

00:12:11 of trying to change some pagan sun god religion or whatever you know myth you've heard no Christians

00:12:17 have done that we see it even in the Bible Paul assumes he says on the first day of the week when

00:12:20 you're gathered together take an offer and he's not saying oh the first day of the week you know

00:12:24 take an offering then because offerings are first fruits and you know uh jewish agrarian culture

00:12:29 everybody got paid weekly and they got paid on the first day and so it's a chance to take you

00:12:33 know the first 10 percent of your of your paycheck you know and offer that as a tie that's that's 0.98

00:12:38 just dumb that's stupid uh most people did not get paid weekly even today people don't get paid 0.99

00:12:44 weekly sometimes they do but usually it's every two weeks or it's monthly or this or that certainly 1.00

00:12:49 in an agrarian culture and people would get paid once a year at harvest time you know if they had

00:12:56 different you know kinds of crops that grew in different seasons and maybe you know in addition

00:12:59 to that they also had cattle and livestock and goats and all these different things different

00:13:03 hustles different trades you know all attached to the household household industry coming from

00:13:08 the family but it was not every week we get a paycheck on the first day of the week and so

00:13:12 Paul's saying when you gather together and Paul's assuming you're gathering you know every day of

00:13:16 the week. Yeah, that's true. They gather together for the breaking of bread, right? For prayer and

00:13:20 devoting themselves to the apostles teaching. But that's not talking about the whole corporate

00:13:24 gathering of all the saints in a local geographic area, AKA church for the ordinary administering

00:13:31 of, or for the administering of the ordinary means of grace. That's unique. Paul is assuming,

00:13:37 right? So this is still, this isn't 300 AD or 400 AD or Rome doing something like this is still in

00:13:43 the apostolic writings this is right on the heels of jesus resurrection and paul is noting the book

00:13:49 of acts tells us that's luke writing the narrative but tells us that you know the christians were

00:13:53 getting together every every day of the week but not all of them right not not necessarily a group

00:13:57 of 50 of them or a hundred of them or um but they're getting together in the same way that

00:14:01 we would have a family in our church come over on a tuesday evening and what would we do we'd break

00:14:06 bread that's not a reference in that particular portion of acts to the lord's supper but rather

00:14:11 it's the equivalent of a potluck meal. It's I'm getting together with one or two other families.

00:14:15 We're sharing a meal and we're devoting ourselves to the apostles teaching. We do that all the time.

00:14:20 We have people come over. We have a meal and we talk about theology. Where do we get our theology

00:14:26 from the apostles? We talk about the New Testament. We talk about the Old Testament and we pray. We

00:14:30 usually spend some time in prayer, not just before the meal, but we spend some time in prayer.

00:14:34 That's just the normative Christian life. And that's seven days a week. But Paul says when

00:14:39 you're gathered together on the first day of the week, take up an offering. And he's not talking

00:14:44 about just the couple of families on a Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday evening for dinner. No,

00:14:51 he's talking about church. So he's not saying, hey, you're gathering together. The whole church

00:14:55 is gathered together seven times a week. Nope. They had jobs. They had kids. They had marriages.

00:15:00 They had things to do. They had things to do. You guys have heard my take on this. I think the

00:15:04 church, sadly, the state is a tyrant. The church can be a tyrant too. Too many midweek programs. 0.76

00:15:09 let dads you beat up dads all the time saying they need to be pastors of their home but then

00:15:14 you got a wanna you got this you got that women's ministry this and that you know and and it's every

00:15:19 night of the week every night of the week there's something going on and then you you crack down on

00:15:24 dad for not leading family worship well pastor you didn't let him lead family worship you outsourced

00:15:30 all of his um all of his fatherly pastoral duty in his household uh you took it and made it a part

00:15:37 of the church so all that being said the church even in the first century church they were not

00:15:44 doing church the ecclesia the whole gathering of the saints for the administering of the ordinary

00:15:50 means of grace public preaching of the word public praying of the word public singing of the word

00:15:54 and hymns psalms and spiritual songs and public seeing s-e-e-i-n-g of the word namely the only

00:16:01 two images prescribed to us by the lord jesus baptism and the lord's supper they were not doing

00:16:06 that seven times a week, every single day. That very early on, even in the book of Acts,

00:16:13 in the early apostolic ministry, right on the heels of the resurrection and ascension of Christ

00:16:19 was happening on the first day of the week. Not Saturday, but on the first day of the week. On

00:16:24 Saturday, often the apostles were going into the synagogues because that's when the Jews were still

00:16:29 holding their religious ceremonies and they were going in and they were arguing or they were 0.51

00:16:33 bringing, you know, some kind of teaching or trying, you know, and, you know, there was a

00:16:38 place where they would be able to speak or do this or do that. And then they get kicked out

00:16:41 and then they go to the Greeks, you know, and the Gentiles and rent the hall of Terrenius for, 1.00

00:16:45 you know, a year and a half during the hot hour of the day. I think, you know, 0.99

00:16:50 it's a three hour blocks. It was a morning block and evening block. And Paul, I think historians

00:16:55 say he got like the afternoon block, like a one to four PM and, and for, you know, 18 months,

00:17:00 give or take or it might have been three years i think it was 18 months a year and a half he's in

00:17:04 the hall of tyrannius on his own dime making tents to pay the rent so that he can have this three

00:17:09 hour block and he's arguing with the greeks and you know the scythians and all these different

00:17:14 people and philosophers of of his day and he's you know but on the jewish sabbath saturday seventh

00:17:22 day of the week the apostles and paul being one of them were often in the synagogues but the first

00:17:27 day of the week Paul assumes that the Christian church is gathering together often in someone's

00:17:32 home or outside or whatever it may be but they're gathering together and it's not just one or two

00:17:36 families with a potluck meal devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and prayer that's just

00:17:41 the Christian life that's community that's discipleship but no it's church it's bona fide

00:17:48 church preaching the word praying the word singing the word seeing the word and that's when Paul says

00:17:53 to take up an offering the first day of the week when you're gathered together not saying oh Paul

00:17:57 assumes they gather together seven days a week but take up an offering on the first because 0.64

00:18:01 we all know that you know first century you know jews and gentiles got paid weekly and they got

00:18:07 paid on the first day of the week no that's ridiculous so all that being said all days

00:18:13 alike that's what i was getting at romans right one man considers all days alike even that is not

00:18:18 saying oh you know and so some people aren't sabbatarians yeah some people there are some

00:18:22 christians who aren't sabbatarians they're called wrong christians they're wrong it's not talking

00:18:27 about the creational sabbath the creation order sabbath the weekly sabbath the christian

00:18:33 sabbath read thomas watson my goodness you people say they like the puritans i don't i don't think

00:18:39 they would if you if you read thomas watson he talks about fires breaking out in london

00:18:44 and he says and it broke out on the lord's day the first day of the week the christian sabbath

00:18:49 and he says it's because they didn't honor the sabbath and so the fire of hell rose up from the

00:18:54 the belly of the earth and consumed uh people in london that's that's a puritan view of anybody

00:19:01 who doesn't hold to the sabbath so all that being said paul's not saying hey you count all days

00:19:06 alike and you know so some people aren't sabbatarians no he's saying about these high holy

00:19:11 days um that are uh follow the annual jewish calendar he's talking about the feast of booths

00:19:17 He's talking about the Day of Atonement. 0.97

00:19:19 He's talking about, well, he'd be talking about something like Easter.

00:19:22 That would fall into the equation.

00:19:23 That wasn't going on at the time, but that would be a perfect example.

00:19:26 And so would Christmas. 0.92

00:19:27 So if a Christian family doesn't celebrate, they don't observe Christmas. 1.00

00:19:32 Perfect. 1.00

00:19:33 That's fine.

00:19:34 We should not judge them.

00:19:35 They should not judge us.

00:19:36 If they don't observe Easter, that's fine.

00:19:40 We shouldn't judge them.

00:19:41 They shouldn't judge us.

00:19:42 Here's the beauty about Easter, though. 1.00

00:19:43 If they're Christian, they should be Sabbatarian. 1.00

00:19:46 that's when i went on the whole sabbatarian bunny trail um they should be sabbatarian they should 0.94

00:19:51 hold to the lord's day they should be in church on the lord's day and every lord's day we worship

00:19:56 and recognize and celebrate the resurrected lord so there are some puritans who have you know

00:20:02 argued this and i agree with this i would hold both positions but um the christian has 52 easters

00:20:08 each year in the technical biblical sense we have been given 52 lowercase e easters each year 52

00:20:18 sundays um that we that we gather together only because christ is raised because christ is

00:20:25 resurrected bodily resurrected he appeared to over 500 at one time and many others also and then

00:20:32 ascended in majesty and glory and splendor to the right hand of the father where he is now seated

00:20:38 and each of his enemies progressively throughout human history by his power through his body the

00:20:44 church are being footstooled subjected under his feet and the last not first as the dispensationalist

00:20:51 would argue but the last enemy that christ will defeat upon his final physical return will be

00:20:57 death all the other enemies having been subjected progressively throughout human history by christ

00:21:03 who is the head and his church who is the body baptizing the nations christianizing all of human

00:21:10 society in every place every people christianize that does not necessarily mean regenerate each

00:21:17 and every individual person is a regenerate christian but all practices all cultures all

00:21:23 society all governments all nations will be christianized by the time that christ returns

00:21:29 Why? Because it's the promise. The nations are his inheritance. He is coming back to receive

00:21:36 what is his. He's not coming back to do some more work for a thousand years. He's coming back because

00:21:44 the work has been done. He's coming back to receive his inheritance and his due praise.

00:21:50 Now, all that being said, we get to recognize, celebrate, observe 52 Easters a year. Now,

00:21:57 Now, if somebody doesn't want to hold to one particular Sunday, being a part of a church

00:22:03 calendar, an annual calendar, and receiving the due observance of Christ and his resurrection

00:22:10 that belongs to the weekly Sabbath, every Lord's day, but then additionally, a special celebration

00:22:16 of the Lord's resurrection, if they reject that, see Romans 14, that would fall into

00:22:22 that category.

00:22:23 One man considers one day to be special.

00:22:26 Another man considers them all alike.

00:22:28 Don't be at each other's throats.

00:22:29 Let it go.

00:22:30 Okay?

00:22:31 So that's fine.

00:22:32 And the beauty is that the person who doesn't think Easter is special,

00:22:35 you know what they're doing on Sunday?

00:22:37 If they're a Christian, they're still going to church. 1.00

00:22:40 So it really doesn't matter. 1.00

00:22:42 And Christmas, to be fair, if I was in charge of Christmas, right?

00:22:46 If I was St. Nicholas, if I was, you know, Santa Claus himself,

00:22:50 I would have done what Calvin wanted to do with Christmas,

00:22:52 which is exactly what was done with Easter, tying it to a Sunday.

00:22:56 That's what Calvin argued, that Christmas should not be tied to December 25th,

00:23:00 but rather it should be tied to a particular Sunday.

00:23:04 Maybe it's the last, maybe it's the first, but a Sunday in the month of December.

00:23:07 And for everyone who says, well, Jesus wasn't born in December, you don't know.

00:23:11 I don't know.

00:23:12 Well, we know he wasn't born in December because of weather and patterns,

00:23:15 and shepherds were watching their flocks by night.

00:23:18 I don't have time to go into that.

00:23:19 I just would say read a book.

00:23:20 read a book stop being a normally christian wake up okay so all that being said could have been

00:23:26 december that's perfectly plausible and good chance it's right correct um because the more

00:23:33 that i the more that i get older and learn and read the more i find out that uh all the things

00:23:38 i objected to um turns out that those things were things for a reason there were actually reasons

00:23:43 behind it so i don't know if jesus was born december if i had to bet on one month of the year

00:23:48 i would go on that one um all that being said calvin wanted to tie it to a sunday so not

00:23:54 december 25th but hey it's the first sunday of december or the last sunday of december treat it

00:23:58 like easter and then we wouldn't really have the problem because some people wouldn't you know

00:24:02 recognize christmas but uh if they were christians they'd be in church on christmas which that's what

00:24:07 we had this last year 2022 i loved it i loved that um that christmas fell on a sunday i loved

00:24:13 it because we got to celebrate Christmas the most wonderful way possible by gathering with

00:24:20 all these saints, the excellent ones in all the earth, as David says in the Psalms, people that

00:24:25 Christ died for and that he purchased and that he bought. We got to gather together, sing together

00:24:31 all these glorious post-mill Christmas hymns, right? You know, if you want some post-mill songs,

00:24:37 just pick the Christmas songs, right? And so we got to sing all these triumphant, victorious,

00:24:42 christus victor beautiful christmas hymns preach about christ his birth his life his death his

00:24:49 resurrection his ascension all about jesus having church together and the beauty is that all the

00:24:55 people who aren't really christians or are really immature carnal worldly nominal christians 0.98

00:25:01 they didn't have church all all the all the crap church is canceled church for christmas right which 0.98

00:25:09 just that right there tells you right so somebody's like well i'm a big christmas fan i'm a big 0.96

00:25:14 christmas fan my house i i'm like chevy chase when christmas comes around you know like when i'm

00:25:19 plugging in those lights you can see them from space and i do it because christ was born and

00:25:23 he's the light of the world the light it was darkness right and this is the judgment this is

00:25:29 uh john 3 19 and this is the judgment the light has come into the world but men loved the darkness

00:25:34 um i love rc sproul he used to say i he loved christmas time he was a huge christmas fan he

00:25:40 loved the lights and he loved the tree represents a tree of life underneath it gifts to men um good

00:25:46 gifts to men good will to men sharing with one another all these things there's nothing wrong

00:25:50 with that there's nothing wrong with that um that that is thoroughly christianized that's taking

00:25:58 some kind of pagan nation pagan tribe pagan culture and thoroughly baptizing all the demons

00:26:04 out of it there are no demons left in a truly christian christmas now the reason why why some

00:26:10 people i think object to christmas rightly some christians object is because it's not a christian

00:26:16 christmas and how do you know because their church canceled church canceled christian for christmas

00:26:22 when you cancel christian for christmas christian church for materialistic secular christmas well

00:26:29 now you know that it's not about christ but that's not my experience my experience is that we were

00:26:36 gathering for worship on christmas eve and then just a few hours later gathering christmas morning

00:26:41 for worship again because i'm a christian so one man considers one day to be better special above

00:26:51 all the others this is annual jewish calendar type stuff and i think you can apply it to annual

00:26:56 christian calendar type stuff that's what i'm trying to say old covenant israel had and things

00:27:01 that followed the annual count calendar feast of booze and and day of atonement and they also had

00:27:06 new moon sabbaths right which i think either colossians or romans mentions that people say

00:27:11 there it is right there the sabbath that's something you don't have to know that's a new

00:27:14 moon sabbath read i know there's a comma there that's wrong a new moon sabbath it's a certain

00:27:20 a lunar calendar monthly sabbath it is not talking about genesis 1 and 2 the creation

00:27:27 ordinance sabbath which christ did not remove but renewed by virtue of his resurrection from the

00:27:33 dead from the last day of the week rest being rewarded for six days of work to the first day

00:27:38 of the week we rest first in christ by grace alone through faith and then fruit follows six days of

00:27:44 good christian works coming out of this gospel reality so all that being said uh every christian

00:27:51 man should honor the sabbath and be a sabbatarian because it's the biblical position um christmas

00:28:00 you can take it or leave it i say you should take it easter you can take it or leave it i say you

00:28:06 should take it and certain people you know still to this day 2 000 years later old covenant has

00:28:11 been ended, wrapped up like a garment, the old age rolled up. Peter talks about that. That's not

00:28:16 talking about the physical world being rolled up or dissolved like snow. That's talking about the

00:28:21 end of the age. That's talking about a time. It's talking about the old covenant that was done in

00:28:27 80, 70. And although it's done, some Christians still want to observe Passover. They still want

00:28:31 to observe, they want to observe feast of booze and different Jewish, and Romans 14 would apply

00:28:37 to that and say hey i'm not going to judge them for doing it you don't judge me for not doing it

00:28:42 for me i do believe that annual christian days matter the thing is though i'm a new testament

00:28:48 christian and so those days for me are days that are wrapped up into our culture and i think wrapped

00:28:57 up for a reason and yet still thoroughly christian so for me it's christmas it's easter as an american

00:29:03 it's also thanksgiving which is deeply christian and deeply religious giving thanks to the triune

00:29:09 god for his supernatural favorable providence for the puritans and the founders the pilgrims as they

00:29:17 came and began to settle in this country supernatural providence after providence after

00:29:23 providence which is the only reason why this nation has been so powerful so prosperous so blessed

00:29:29 and yet we are currently spitting on our heritage spitting on our founding our foundations and the

00:29:35 foundations are being eroded and that leads us into our topic oh real quick i was going to say

00:29:39 who killed jesus okay here uh it's because i've just noticed this on twitter and social media and

00:29:45 it's just annoying you know you know all the romans killed jesus the romans killed um okay

00:29:50 uh there are there are four we could say this there are four uh entities if you will for lack

00:29:57 of a better word because some are individuals and some are groups, collectives of four entities

00:30:03 responsible for killing Jesus, for the death of Jesus. And I'm going to list them in order,

00:30:10 in order. Number one, God, God, he pleased him to crush him before the foundations of the world

00:30:20 were laid. According to the eternal decreed of will of God and the councils of eternity,

00:30:25 in the covenant of redemption between father and son by the Holy Spirit before the foundations

00:30:30 of the world were laid, God decreed that he would crush the son, that the son would die,

00:30:37 that Jesus, that he would die as a lamb of God for the sins of the world.

00:30:43 So first, and we see that in Acts chapter 2, we see it in Acts chapter 4, that all these

00:30:48 people were gathered to do what your hand and your plan, speaking of God, predestined

00:30:54 to take place so first god and god killed jesus not because he's malicious or anything like that

00:31:01 but out of love john 3 16 for god so loved the world he gave jesus and he didn't just give jesus

00:31:08 to to be born in a manger and to take on flesh the incarnation to live here for a little while

00:31:13 he jesus took on flesh became human precisely for the purpose of dying so that like a lamb led to

00:31:20 the slaughter he might die for the sins of his people so god the father gave jesus unto death and

00:31:26 jesus was not forced but he was a willing volunteer there is no break in the trinity

00:31:31 and the triune will the son the spirit and the father share one will will belongs to essence

00:31:38 not to nature or i'm sorry it belongs to essence and nature not to person so three persons in the

00:31:44 trinity we do not have three conflicting wills that usually agree because they're all really

00:31:49 holy and really you know they're god uh no no there's one god we don't have their gods we have

00:31:56 one god eternally existing in three persons and the will of god belongs to the divine essence of

00:32:03 which there is one hero israel your god is one so one god with one will will does not belong to

00:32:10 person it belongs to essence nature now jesus does as the god man with two natures the divine

00:32:18 nature and the human nature does in fact have two wills that's why he's able to pray in john 17

00:32:23 before his arrest as he's in the garden he's able to say but not my will but yours be done oh because

00:32:30 the son has a different will than the father no because um because the the god man christ jesus

00:32:36 with two natures in his human nature um he's modeling for his perfect humanity what does it

00:32:42 look like to be a perfect man to be in perfect submission to the divine will so jesus is not

00:32:47 saying not my divine will but your divine will father no he's saying not my human will but our

00:32:53 divine will father yours and mine because jesus is also god and the spirit so all that being said

00:33:00 who killed jesus god he predestined it to take place and not god being malicious towards the

00:33:07 son and not the son being forced but he willingly volunteered and all of that for the redemption of

00:33:13 men but most first and foremost the glory of God that the father would present to the the son a

00:33:22 a bride that is pure and spotless and without blemish and the son would give back and present

00:33:26 back to the father a people redeemed and saved and washed and sanctified for his namesake

00:33:32 and we're just this little gift given being given back and forth by the spirit from the father to

00:33:39 the son to the son to the father throughout all eternity um but it's about the the father the son

00:33:45 and the spirit and we get to be included and that's great that's great but it's first and

00:33:51 foremost about god and his glory and by god's grace um to our benefit god garnishes glory for

00:34:00 himself by keeping steadfast covenant and being good and kind and benevolent uh to his covenant

00:34:05 people of whom we are so four things uh four entities uh who killed jesus god god uh next

00:34:16 you you you killed jesus your sin killed jesus your sin that's the reason why god sent jesus to

00:34:28 die so god determined it god planned it um but it's also because of our sin we killed jesus 0.62

00:34:35 behold i hear my mocking voice cry out among the scoffers that's a good line that is a biblically

00:34:42 true line we killed jesus you killed jesus our sin we are responsible so god killed jesus

00:34:49 his decreed of will it pleased him that he might crush him two our sin killed jesus three and this

00:34:56 is an order of priority. Three, the Jews killed Jesus. Here we go. Let me read a text for us real 0.94

00:35:02 quick. This is 1 Thessalonians chapter 2, verse 14 and 15. For you brothers, this is Paul speaking,

00:35:13 for you brothers became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea. For you

00:35:19 suffered for this same things from your own countrymen as they did from the jews who killed 1.00

00:35:27 both the lord jesus and the prophets now we're in verse 15 now so you suffered for you suffered 0.92

00:35:34 the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the jews and who are the jews verse 15 0.90

00:35:42 who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets and drove us out and displeased God and oppose 0.95

00:35:50 all mankind. Yes, the Roman centurions are the ones who physically literally put the nails 0.97

00:35:56 through his hands. That is true. In the Apostles' Creed, which our church, we quote every single 1.00

00:36:03 Lord's Day. It's a part of our liturgy. He suffered under Pontius Pilate. That is not to say that

00:36:09 Pontius Pilate is uniquely responsible the reason why we we have this emphasis on Pilate in the

00:36:15 scripture and in um in the early church creeds and these kinds of things and confessions um is

00:36:21 because he was a historical figure it is it is to show again that the historicity again and again

00:36:27 that this is not myth this is not legend this is not a mysticism this is historical fact the god

00:36:33 man a real person Jesus Christ who took on flesh the reason why we have all the genealogies in

00:36:38 scripture and we have a seasons it was this time of year and it was this date and the third day of

00:36:44 the fourth month of this and that and here's tracking back the genealogy so and so who beget

00:36:48 so and so who beget um it came in that time you know that uh that Caesar Augustus was having a

00:36:53 census and everybody had to go to where they were registered uh or be registered in the place of

00:36:58 their birth and this happened and that happened it was this time and this person was in power

00:37:02 the reason why Pontius Pilate or Caesar these kinds of things are mentioned or Herod um is

00:37:07 because it's it's showing that this is historical fact this is not um it's not just a a mystical

00:37:15 religious story uh this is a historical fact and when you look at early writings by the way

00:37:21 because you might say well we we have details in in our fiction in our fantasy uh yeah but that's

00:37:26 a very modern thing that's a very modern thing to have um like a sci-fi series that has all these

00:37:33 details you know uh that it was in this uh solar system or whatever that's approximately this far

00:37:38 from the earth you know and it was in this year year uh whatever 3537 ad and it was you know

00:37:45 um that's a that's a novel thing we just started doing that as as a society and as culture um

00:37:53 fairly recently um back in the day right when you think of the writings of scripture 2 000 years old

00:37:59 um that there was not a genre a literary genre for um for detailed fantasy i'll say that again

00:38:09 2 000 years ago there was not a literary genre for detailed fantasy read beowulf

00:38:18 they don't give any details they were in this house and they were eating and drinking and

00:38:26 that's about it and a monster comes in right but you read the bible and it says they were in this

00:38:33 house it was owned by this person it was this day of the week they were drinking out of these cups

00:38:38 that were taken from uh when israel went into exile when this happened and they were gold and

00:38:44 they were also silver so and so was the king at the time in power uh it's dated in this time period

00:38:49 and this happened and then a hand came in and began to write on the wall why why is it written

00:38:56 like that because it happened that's why because it's real because it's true because it's a

00:39:04 historical account and again i i you know i understand that it's a little bit weird for us

00:39:09 because we're like well but we do have detailed fiction that's right all i'm saying is that's a

00:39:14 modern invention that's a very novel thing for us to have and part of it's because our society is

00:39:19 so engrossed by entertainment, that we have to have more and more believable entertainment

00:39:25 because we've rejected, as Lewis would say, the true myth, the scripture, the Christian faith.

00:39:32 So as we've rejected the myth that is true, we've devoted ourselves to more and more strenuous

00:39:40 discipline and effort in trying to make false myths appear to be true.

00:39:47 and one of the ways that you do that is making them more detailed but that is a very novel type

00:39:53 of entertainment and writing and myth and fiction and fantasy back in the day it's historical

00:39:58 accounts they're true or fantasy and it has very very little detail very little detail so

00:40:07 all that being said back to the creeds he suffered under Pontius Pilate because Pontius Pilate is the

00:40:14 guy at the end of the day he's he's the real culprit he's the guy who killed jesus it's not 0.52

00:40:18 the jews they they didn't want jesus to die they loved him no they hated him he came to his own

00:40:26 they received him not right they held a mock trial in the middle of the night and produced 0.87

00:40:34 false witnesses of course the first christians were among the jews right because the gospel is 0.67

00:40:40 power of God for salvation first for the Jew and then for the Gentile, right? So that's not to say 0.95

00:40:45 that all the Jews hated him. The first ones to love him were the Jews, but the leaders in Israel

00:40:52 that represented Israel and not just the leaders, but a lot of people on board with those religious

00:40:59 leaders hated him. And they're the ones who were shouting out, crucify him. They didn't do it

00:41:06 because they're hypocrites they wanted something but wouldn't do it themselves because it went 0.93

00:41:10 against god's law uh so we can't we we're not authorized right as this you know it's it's you 0.96

00:41:18 think of rome as a state or a nation that's a bad way to think of it think of it as an empire because

00:41:22 that's what it was it's imperialism which is not you know so it was whether you know it's not not

00:41:27 whether but which imperialism is not inherently wrong depends what empire um but rome had plenty

00:41:34 of bad things but there were also plenty of good things um just like you know british imperialism

00:41:40 right going into india it's like oh man those white colonialism those bad you know bad british

00:41:45 people uh sure i'm sure there were some abuses and something you know because people are sinful

00:41:49 and there is corruption but remember until great britain went into india uh in the british empire

00:41:54 they were taking women who were alive and burying them alive under the dirt when with their husbands

00:41:59 whenever they died because india was pagan right and that's that's what i'm getting to here just

00:42:05 it was pagan right and and and so you know the only thing that was able to override paganism

00:42:11 was chrysidum it was chrysidum um and so too with rome now rome wasn't christian rome was pagan they

00:42:18 had all these roman greco gods that's what you know zeus and uh and then you have you know demigods

00:42:23 which i i think were real to be completely honest you know the the nephilim right that the sons of

00:42:29 God, fallen sons of God. They saw the daughters of men, saw that they were lovely, that they were

00:42:34 attractive, and they went into them. They took them as their wives went into them and produced 0.97

00:42:39 offspring, this hybrid of half demon, half man, the Nephilim, the men of renown who were of great 0.82

00:42:46 standing, meaning they were physically strong. And they were men of renown. That doesn't mean

00:42:50 they were good men, men of character, of virtue, that they feared the Lord, but men of renown in

00:42:55 the sense that Goliath was a man of renown. Everyone knew his name. He was famous. He was

00:43:01 famous. They were renowned for incredible feats of strength, for conquering armies, for all these

00:43:09 different things. So all that being said, within Greco-Roman mythology, who do you think Hercules

00:43:15 is? Do you think Hercules was a real person? I do. He's half God, but half human. Hercules is a

00:43:24 nephilim hercules is well hercules is in hell hercules is a real person uh half demon half man

00:43:35 under the wrath of god for eternity but i think there's a difference in saying

00:43:40 this is a myth versus this is demonic and we need to start learning the difference

00:43:47 because the west is now starting to creep back starting to creep back into paganism and

00:43:54 really i wish we were creeping but it seems like we're running running back into paganism but let

00:43:59 me finish one thought before i start another so god who killed jesus four entities god you your 0.92

00:44:05 sin uh the jews they're the ones who wanted him dead pilot didn't want to kill pilot killed him 0.81

00:44:11 he's responsible pilot is in hell as far as we know uh pilot is responsible uh but the scripture 0.93

00:44:20 just plain pilot did it because he's a politician he didn't do it because pilot didn't do it because

00:44:25 he was an ideologue he didn't do it because he actually had a personal conviction that that

00:44:29 jesus was this terrible person that deserved death he literally said to the public i see

00:44:34 nothing in this man deserving of death um but the scripture says but he feared the people

00:44:40 and he was up for re-election it was election year all kinds of shenanigans get pulled in 0.92

00:44:48 election year see 2020 the branch covidians black lives matter all the funny business with 0.55

00:44:56 uh the electoral procedures and all these things counting ballots and all like yeah a lot of a lot 0.53

00:45:01 of stuff happens a lot of people are willing to to do some things they ordinarily wouldn't do

00:45:05 when their career is on the line that's pilot does that make him a good guy no does that make

00:45:10 him a christian guy no does that make him mean that we're going to see pilot in heaven no no

00:45:15 um but pilot did not hate jesus the jews did 0.80

00:45:21 and i know this is unpopular but they still do 0.97

00:45:26 the jews did hate jesus and they still do so who killed jesus god you your sin the jews

00:45:36 and then rome rome would be number four and the reason why creeds emphasize he suffered under 0.76

00:45:42 Pontius Pilate is not because Pontius Pilate was uniquely, morally responsible for killing Jesus,

00:45:50 that he had more animosity and malice toward Jesus than other people and other parties.

00:45:57 No, it's because he was a man of renown. He was famous. He was a ruler at the time. He's a

00:46:04 historic marker. That's why. And he's not the only historic marker. We also have Caiaphas,

00:46:11 Caiaphas, the high priest. Leaders are mentioned to reflect times and dates and regions and places

00:46:21 and credibility, validity. This is not mere fiction. This is history. All right, so there

00:46:29 you go. That's a follow-up for Easter Sunday, Resurrection Sunday, which was yesterday.

00:46:33 I hope you had a wonderful time gathering with the saints. I hope that you have a biblical church

00:46:38 that you're a part of and I hope you heard a faithful sermon from the scripture all about

00:46:43 Christ and his resurrection and how his resurrection changes the world and not just our private

00:46:48 precious little hearts so that was Easter Sunday and on the heels of Easter Sunday we talked about

00:46:53 every day being alike and one day being more important than another we you know if you're

00:46:57 tuning in right now and then we talked about who killed Jesus and who's responsible and all these

00:47:01 different things but now we need to talk about paganism we've already been delving into it we've

00:47:06 been talking a little bit about getting into getting our toes wet our feet wet if you will

00:47:10 with the Nephilim with Greco-Roman fallen gods or not fallen gods but gods Greco-Roman mythological

00:47:19 gods which I believe are fallen angels and then the Nephilim would be like demigods like Hercules

00:47:26 and so we'll talk about that but all that being said my point is this the title of the video is

00:47:31 that secularism is not viable secularism is merely a temporary placeholder between two

00:47:37 predominant world views christendom and paganism that's it that's all you got

00:47:45 throughout all of human history you got christendom christianity baptizing entire

00:47:52 cultures societies nations changing everything their laws governments their holidays their

00:48:00 cultures their customs their diet or religious faith it involves everything even what you eat

00:48:08 even what you eat um christianity changed everything and when christ with a new covenant

00:48:13 he changed even the diet is not what goes into a man's mouth that defiles him or what comes out of

00:48:18 a man's mouth that defiles him but rather what goes in it is not what goes into a man's mouth

00:48:24 that defiles him but rather what goes out of his mouth that defiles him and then the parenthetical

00:48:28 statement is, and thus he declared all foods clean. Jesus is saying it's more about our speech

00:48:33 than it is about our diet, right? Shellfish is back on the menu. So all those kinds of things,

00:48:38 so from diet to celebrations, to holidays, to culture, to government, to law, to art,

00:48:45 to architecture, all these things, to education, certainly education and schooling and academics,

00:48:53 all these things are shaped by religion and there are only two in in the real sense there is

00:49:01 christianity and paganism now if we want to get some a little bit more detailed and get some sub

00:49:08 subcategories here the two predominant categories christianity and paganism now under christianity

00:49:16 not under meaning oh this is also christian it's not but under christianity we might say there are

00:49:22 christian heresies islam and judaism and you might say well judaism isn't a heresy it was true they're

00:49:30 just they're only believing half of the truth and not the second half the new testament in christ

00:49:34 no no no no no no no that that is a bad view of judaism

00:49:38 you might say well we both have the old testament

00:49:44 judaism is not it's not christianity is old testament plus new testament and judaism is

00:49:50 just old testament now they have a new testament just like we do we read the old testament in light 0.74

00:49:55 of the new the new testament is the lens that helps us to understand all the types and shadows

00:50:01 and prophecies messianic prophecy all these things the new testament is the light one theologian once

00:50:07 said it like this the old testament is a a richly furnished room but dimly lit but all its treasures

00:50:14 are exposed and enjoyed in the light of the new testament the new testament is is the light

00:50:21 that turns that switches on in christ so that we can appreciate everything this glorious

00:50:29 room palace of the old testament so it is not as though judaism is half of the christian religion

00:50:38 just the old testament we have the old and the new no we have a lens for understanding the old

00:50:43 testament namely the new testament they have a lens for understanding the old testament the torah

00:50:49 namely the talmud and all the talmud is is twisting of god's word perversion perversion

00:50:59 perversion perversion of the truth so it is not that they have the old testament we have the old

00:51:04 plus new they have the old testament all twisted and perverted and undone everything that god meant

00:51:10 to actually say and that god did say that is true in the old testament it's not that they have some

00:51:15 of the truth and we have all the truth they have none of the truth because all the truth that they

00:51:19 have has been ours has been a greater clarity has been given to us in the new testament of the old

00:51:27 testament has been more fully seen in christ in the new testament for the jew the old testament 0.54

00:51:33 has been darkened even further and perverted and switched and destroyed that's the difference 0.92

00:51:40 between Christianity and Judaism okay so Judaism like Islam is a Christian heresy it's a Christian 0.80

00:51:48 heresy so it's not Christian but there is a distinction to be fair between Christian heresies

00:51:54 and pagan pagan deities and pagan religions right so Celtic pagan rituals are not they should be

00:52:04 placed in a different category from islamic sharia sharia law you know or or the talmud and

00:52:12 certain customs and rituals of of judaism that should be placed in a different category from

00:52:19 thor and odin and you know all these you know different pagan norse gods and and and things

00:52:28 like that now all that being said um what is what is america's heritage now i understand america is

00:52:36 a melting pot and we have people from cultures from all over the world but i'm talking about

00:52:43 historically most of the founders were white they were puritans they were coming from england

00:52:49 and so what what is i guess i should just say what is western society predominantly white

00:52:56 at least historically so what is our heritage well it's it's not judaism it's not islam

00:53:06 it's also not i'm talking about it is christianity now by the grace of god that's been our heritage

00:53:11 since king alfred for a thousand years that is our heritage chrysidham but before that

00:53:16 what was chrysidham replacing paganism paganism we were pagans we weren't sophisticated

00:53:25 we weren't intellectuals we weren't smart we certainly weren't classically you know classical

00:53:33 liberals and and principled pluralism and the blessings of liberty no we were vikings we were

00:53:39 sailing the high seas painting our faces blue and raping and pillaging and decimating societies 0.83

00:53:45 and worshiping false gods and sacrificing to them thoroughly pagan thoroughly pagan 0.69

00:53:55 and god in his mercy through the potency christus victor the conquering christ through the potency

00:54:02 of the christian gospel changed an entire culture an entire continent i mean think about that an

00:54:11 entire continent was changed what was revitalized and and all these old gods and old rituals they

00:54:22 all got replaced they all got baptized if it couldn't be baptized if it couldn't be redeemed

00:54:28 it was crushed and ground into dust if it could be redeemed it was redeemed and we have been living

00:54:33 off of the fumes of chrysidom for centuries but we have taken it for granted and it is evaporating

00:54:44 these fumes and what will fill its place will not be principled pluralism it will not be

00:54:53 moral neutrality it will not be classical liberalism it will not be secular humanism

00:55:01 it will be downright mystical demonic paganism and you might say that's not possible

00:55:10 surely in 2023 we've moved past that it's not possible now that knowing what we know about

00:55:17 science and about you know the universe and solar systems and this and that and atoms and isotopes

00:55:24 and you know surely we would never we man has crossed an undelible line we could never

00:55:31 go back to to the primitive neanderthal paganism from which we came yes we can

00:55:39 we can and we will unless it's steve days uh says you know it's revival or bust

00:55:48 revival or bust um and bust is paganism that's that's what bust looks like a couple things to

00:55:57 note it is not a coincidence satanic displays at the grammys we're just joking we're just joking

00:56:06 we're not satanists yeah they are yeah they are it's not a joke it's not and even if it is a joke

00:56:14 in the sense of in their minds consciously and i think they're conscious i think they love satan

00:56:19 i think they consciously love satan maybe not each and every single person on the stage with

00:56:24 sam smith you know the the whatever he is now at first he was gay and then he's like non-binary and

00:56:29 now he's now he's just uh a fat dude you know in spandex you know whatever that is whatever you

00:56:36 know, sexual orientation that is, but, um, maybe every single dancer on the stage with him isn't 0.90

00:56:42 consciously a worshiper of Satan. Um, but, uh, even those, I think some are, but even for those

00:56:50 who aren't for, for those who are not, um, it's still, it's not a coincidence. It's like, we're

00:56:56 doing this as a joke. Yeah. You are doing it as a joke. Um, but, uh, you didn't make this decision

00:57:04 independently now god alone is the only one the triune god the christian god is the only one who

00:57:09 has power to actually ordain who has ordained all of history but demonic powers exist and they do

00:57:17 have the power not to not to dictate someone's actions not to decree them but but to influence

00:57:26 them and to do so powerfully here's just a good rule of thumb that you know in terms of demonology

00:57:33 understanding satan understanding demons um demonic powers are smarter than you

00:57:40 and stronger than you period remember those two things demonic powers they are stronger than you

00:57:49 and smarter than you there is no competing there is no competing with paganism

00:57:56 because these are not just false gods fake gods there are real entities spiritual entities some

00:58:06 of them even with physical manifestations in our literal physical world and there is no competing

00:58:13 with either their intellect or their physical and spiritual strength the only reason why satan flees

00:58:23 is because of the triune God, because of Jesus. Jesus can compete. In fact, there's no competing

00:58:34 with him, with Christ. He doesn't compete. He just demolishes. He just conquers. He just crushes.

00:58:40 But apart from Christ, man is not a competitor in this physical cosmos, in this world like Satan is.

00:58:48 and satan has been bound by christ so that he is no longer able to deceive the nations

00:58:54 but he has not yet been cast into the lake of fire he has been cast down to earth right but

00:58:59 woe to the earth for the devil has gone down to you the archangel michael he didn't even rebuke

00:59:04 him right there were disputes over the bones of moses and things like that and he's the lord 0.56

00:59:08 rebuke you so even archangels right you can't compete with the archangel michael and even he

00:59:14 wasn't so presumptuous and arrogant to just start throwing around curses and rebukes against satan

00:59:20 rather he wouldn't even say i rebuke you say the lord rebuke you but michael empowered by the lord

00:59:26 and the host of heaven and these these angels employed in the archangel michael's platoon and

00:59:32 his army the host of heaven were able to cast satan down but where to the 17th spiritual dimension no

00:59:39 to the world to this physical planet he was cast down now jesus in his earthy ministry bound him

00:59:49 have you ever thought about this think about this for a second um why why in the gospel narratives

00:59:54 is there so many accounts of jesus casting out demons 0.77

00:59:59 because it was all pagan

01:00:05 because demons are real

01:00:09 and they inhabit this physical world

01:00:12 and Rome was pagan

01:00:15 and Israel at the time of Jesus coming

01:00:19 and hundreds of years leading up to it

01:00:21 I might add

01:00:21 not each and every Israelite person 0.85

01:00:24 there's Anna a prophetess

01:00:26 in the temple praying Zechariah

01:00:28 there were individuals but it was the vast minority the vast majority of israel

01:00:35 um it's not that jesus just casting demons out of out of roman centurions

01:00:41 and and their soldiers he's casting them out of children of abraham

01:00:46 why because the jews killed jesus they hated jesus he came to his own and they received him

01:00:53 not they they for centuries by the time that jesus comes in in history in human history and 0.85

01:00:59 the incarnation it's not just that the romans were pagan so that's a viable host for demonic 0.80

01:01:04 activity but then but then the jews had had long rejected the triune god 0.90

01:01:09 and we're living in hard-heartedness and rebellion 0.91

01:01:13 and so when jesus comes on the scene it's it's it's teeming with devils

01:01:23 and so much of his ministry is going around casting out devils

01:01:28 and white european heritage before christendom was teeming with devils

01:01:38 now in the life death and resurrection and ascension of christ there is a turning point

01:01:46 but but devils aren't destroyed through the earthly ministry and the finished work of jesus christ

01:01:52 that comes later there is a binding and even that binding isn't a binding of all devils

01:02:00 for the record it's a binding of satan the chief devil so satan is bound but he's not yet destroyed

01:02:07 cast into the lake of fire there's still a sense in which he prowls around like a roaring lion

01:02:11 seeing who he might devour and working through deception and his minions lesser devils yet

01:02:17 still again in comparison to us apart from christ vastly are superior both both smarter and stronger

01:02:25 and many of them have not been bound some have locked away in gloomy dungeons right jude talks

01:02:31 about this uh peter talks about this but there are many devils on the loose other devils not

01:02:37 destroyed but bound but bound in such a way that they can still deceive and manipulate and others

01:02:42 where they can outright just move freely on the earth during this time period now because of

01:02:49 christ and the gospel since his binding of satan binding of the strong man over the last 2 000

01:02:55 years devils have been pushed back they have especially in the west because in god's mercy

01:03:01 nothing inherent with with western european people but all simply because of the mercy of god

01:03:07 and his providence and choosing to saturate Europe with the gospel because of that and

01:03:13 that coming over to the Americas and all these kinds of things.

01:03:16 Because of that, there has been far less, not no, not none, but far less demonic activity.

01:03:25 But I believe that it is back on the rise, back on the rise.

01:03:31 And I'll get more into that here in just a second.

01:03:33 I got a verse.

01:03:34 I got a verse that I want to read to you guys.

01:03:35 but let me do a little housekeeping for a second.

01:03:39 So our conference, many of you know about it,

01:03:42 the Theonomy and Postmillennialism Conference.

01:03:44 I haven't talked about it much for a few months now.

01:03:46 And the reason why is because we sold out

01:03:49 six months in advance, right?

01:03:50 Before the end of last year, in December,

01:03:52 we had completely sold out.

01:03:54 We have 550 people, we capped it at that.

01:03:58 We can really only fit 500 and we're really less than that.

01:04:01 We're pushing it and we're gonna pack it in.

01:04:03 And so we capped it at 550.

01:04:04 we're already, you know, my point is we're already maxed out and over capacity. And then we have like

01:04:10 150 more people on a waiting list. So I haven't been talking about it because there's no point,

01:04:15 you know, raising awareness for this thing that, you know, gets you excited about that you can't

01:04:19 sign up for anyways. But all that being said, there are some pretty nifty things, I might say,

01:04:26 on the horizon. One is that with this Theonomy and Postmillennialism Conference, we've got Nathan

01:04:32 Anderson. Some of you guys remember this, but there's been some more development with this.

01:04:37 Nathan Anderson and his assistant are flying out and we're going to be making our first ever

01:04:43 right response documentary. And Nathan and his assistant, Nathan Anderson, he's the guy who

01:04:47 he directed On Earth As It Is In Heaven. You can find it on the Canon Plus app. It's a post-mill

01:04:52 doc. He also did Teach All Nations. I think that's on Canon. It's definitely on lore.

01:04:56 um and he's working on another film uh with with himself with his own project but we got him we're

01:05:03 hiring him he's coming out and they're coming out for like 10 or 12 days something like that so

01:05:07 you know a while before the conference during the conference after the conference and we've got a

01:05:12 really great idea for the documentary that we're doing it's all about post-millennialism theonomy

01:05:17 but it's also in the vein it's going to be kind of following my personal story where i led 20 people

01:05:21 out of california to texas we were i was pastoring in california for those of you who don't know and

01:05:26 we left 20 people including our kids seven or eight households including the kids 20 people

01:05:32 give or take and went out of california into texas to plant a new church and um and that's

01:05:37 what we've been doing and now we're working on we're going to be starting a classical christian

01:05:40 school and i'm going to have a lot of a lot of things about that that i'll let you guys know

01:05:45 about all in georgetown north of austin so we're not in austin not even in the county travis county

01:05:50 we're outside of it we've got some provisions and protections texas is a red state we're getting out

01:05:54 of california coming here but still uh you know you can hop on the toll and be in austin in about

01:05:59 40 minutes and so guys can work for elon musk at tesla they can work for oracle and apple and all

01:06:04 these different massive economic opportunity and industry quickly becoming the new tech center of 1.00

01:06:10 the world uh silicon valley is on its last leg because it's in california and they're idiots 1.00

01:06:16 they're idiots and so um all that being said we're going to make this documentary 1.00

01:06:22 it kind of coincides with a book 1.00

01:06:24 a book that I've been working on for a while

01:06:27 that's going to be coming out soon

01:06:28 and it's basically the idea of

01:06:31 as our world continues to polarize

01:06:34 it's all these fault lines 0.99

01:06:36 Votie Bauckham nailed it

01:06:37 if you haven't read Fault Lines by Votie Bauckham

01:06:39 came out a couple years ago

01:06:40 you got to read that

01:06:41 but there's more even

01:06:42 that's not addressed in that book

01:06:44 that we're seeing all these ripple effects

01:06:46 and kind of like a second shockwave

01:06:49 you know of a second you know earthquake

01:06:51 that's hitting and these all these fault lines so there's all this division dividing polarization

01:06:57 political uh theological right it's like well there's there's the woke apostate evangelicals

01:07:03 and here are the guys who are faithful you know and um there's there's democrats and here's

01:07:08 conservatives you know and and and here's um you know but it's it's it's political it's theological

01:07:13 it's cultural but it's also um with all those things one of the the fruit of that or the the

01:07:20 the ramifications is it's geographic there's geographic polarization and this is key i think

01:07:28 it's very important you do not want to live christian listen to me if you are just your

01:07:34 basic christian right you're going to be called alt-right super uber alt-right what like aka if

01:07:40 you're a christian who just believes what every other christian believed 50 years ago because

01:07:45 That's all it takes to make you super duper alt-right conservative, you know, whatever, conspiracy theorist.

01:07:52 If you're just your plain Jane basic Christian throughout all of American history until, you know, 15 minutes ago, very, very recently.

01:08:04 If that's you, you do not want to live in a den of lions.

01:08:09 We want to be hopeful.

01:08:10 we don't want to be overly pessimistic but we we want to be innocent as doves but we also want to

01:08:18 be shrewd as vipers as serpents we want to be strategic we want to be wise and one of the one

01:08:24 of the things i think that wisdom insists practical wisdom especially if you're a parent you have

01:08:29 children you have grandchildren one of those things that i think is wise that wisdom insists

01:08:35 upon is not uh not living in a in a den of lions because when when some of these next few because

01:08:42 it's not done there's going to be more aftershocks and more earthquakes and more polarization and

01:08:47 god forbid civil war those kinds of things are possible they are possible um and when these

01:08:56 fault lines go off and uh the rubber meets the road you don't want to be living uh in in a hornet's

01:09:06 nest that hasn't been bothering you you know because you you've had a good reputation with

01:09:11 outsiders and you've been on your best behavior but now boom it's going off and everybody's

01:09:16 turning against each other you you want to live around people who think like you who have the

01:09:23 same kind of values and virtues that you do you don't want to just have that as a as a virtual

01:09:30 community on youtube that is not enough i've got 150 friends on the internet no no no you you need

01:09:38 brick and mortar you need land buy dirt one uh wise country artist once said um you need physical

01:09:47 brick and mortar um places and i understand i understand that you know that the economy is

01:09:52 horrible because of progressives, because of Joe Biden, because of this, because of all these

01:09:56 different things. So I'm not saying you can do it right now. And I'm not saying that you're going

01:10:00 to be able to buy 10 acres and this and that. But one place to start, one place to start,

01:10:06 it may mean that first we're moving into an apartment and then, you know, a single family

01:10:10 home. And then, you know, it may be, you know, it could be a progression. It could be a process,

01:10:16 take time but one place to start is uh don't don't live in new jersey

01:10:23 i'm thinking about you know like leaving an inheritance in my children's children what i

01:10:28 can do for my kids okay here's here's one one thing you can start with don't live in new york

01:10:33 don't live in california don't live in seattle don't

01:10:40 well there are people there that need jesus uh-huh i know

01:10:46 don't live there there are people in sodom that needed jesus

01:10:50 a lot needed to get out he needed to get out so um nathan anderson theonomy and postmillennialism

01:11:00 conference uh i'm we're going to be making this documentary about theonomy and postmillennialism

01:11:05 the implications on the ground what does it look like to believe in the goodness of god's law

01:11:12 applied to all of life right god's word for economics his law word for for markets and

01:11:18 economics and arts and this and that and of course for law and governments and nations and politics

01:11:24 and all those things the goodness of god's law word applied to every realm of life and a hopeful

01:11:30 eschatology knowing that things could get worse before they get better worse in the short term

01:11:36 but jesus is progressively going to win through the church through um over the course of human

01:11:40 history what does it look like to be um a theonomy post-millennial christian theonomic

01:11:48 post-millennial christian practically how does that affect our day-to-day lives one thing it

01:11:54 effects is uh where you live where you live and so we're going to be making this documentary on

01:12:00 theonomy and post-millennialism but in light of um the story of right response the story of covenant

01:12:06 bible church um the families that came with me the new work that we're doing here starting the

01:12:11 classical christian school the church the right response publishing arm and ministry and all

01:12:17 these different things um we're going to be making a documentary about that and it's going to coincide

01:12:22 with, um, the publishing of my book, which is called fight by flight. Uh, I want to show you

01:12:28 real quick. We've, we've got the cover design now. And so this is going to come up on the screen.

01:12:32 For those of you who are watching, uh, it's a little bit subtle, but you can make it out. That's

01:12:37 a, that's the back of a U-Haul. All right. So that's the, you see on the right side, that's

01:12:40 the front of the book. And then you got the spine there in the middle and then there's the back of

01:12:43 the book, but it's called fight by flight, uh, for too long. Now people have had the mindset of,

01:12:48 you know that you know the the age-old question right the reflex of is it fight or flight and

01:12:54 there's so many christians well i i just don't want to i don't want to be a coward i don't want

01:12:59 to i don't want to flee i don't want to um i don't want to retreat and so i'm going to stay

01:13:03 and fight in california and you know and that's and that's cute um but but that's not going to

01:13:07 work it's not going to work long term not with the rise of paganism not with a not not with

01:13:14 where we're headed. And this is a post-millennial talking. It's not fight or flight. It's not,

01:13:21 I'm going to stay and fight and you're going to just, you're going to flee and cower. No,

01:13:26 I think there's really actually a third option here. I think there's a way of fighting by fleeing,

01:13:31 fight by flight. The subtitle, for those of you who may not be able to read it, it says,

01:13:35 it's a biblical case for fleeing godless places that you actually can you can actually fight

01:13:46 as you're fleeing one of the things that would bring california state like that to its knees

01:13:51 overnight virtually overnight is if every christian and conservative left

01:13:56 you know what one of the worst things it would have been for the prodigal son

01:14:01 when when he was in a far off distant land and a famine had come to the land and and he got a job

01:14:07 a deadbeat job working feeding you know pigs and he's a long way off from his father's house there's

01:14:13 a famine in the land the economy right the whole economy is is doing pretty poorly everybody's

01:14:17 doing poor he's doing especially poor and he's looking at the pods that he's feeding the pigs

01:14:22 with and it says he longed to be fed with pig food um and then you know what the the text says

01:14:29 it says and no one gave him anything a wonderful christian practice

01:14:35 and no one gave him anything you know what the very next words are

01:14:41 and he came to his senses one of the reasons why pagan people and pagan policies

01:14:53 never come to their senses

01:14:56 is because they don't have to.

01:14:59 No one gave him anything

01:15:00 and he came to his senses.

01:15:03 A lot of people in our nation

01:15:05 aren't coming to their senses right now

01:15:07 because we keep giving them something.

01:15:10 I'm not giving them anything.

01:15:11 Yes, you are.

01:15:13 Yeah, you are, California Christian. 0.71

01:15:15 You're paying that state tax.

01:15:16 You are.

01:15:18 You are funding those policies.

01:15:21 You disagree with them,

01:15:22 but you pay for them. They can't do it without you. Brother, sister, Gavin Newsom cannot do it

01:15:29 without you. 10 million professing Christians. That's the statistics in California. 42 million

01:15:37 total population. 6 million voted for Trump in 2020. Hey, we got a chance. California's turning

01:15:44 around. No, 12 million voted for Biden. Not even close. We almost recalled Gavin. No, you didn't.

01:15:49 it was it was laughable it was laughable not even close so you're not going to win California

01:15:56 not now we will win California the question is how one of the ways that we win California

01:16:03 is that we let California beat itself we let it come to its senses by not giving it anything 0.56

01:16:10 and the way that we don't give it anything is we leave we leave and conservatives and Christians 0.98

01:16:17 especially stop propping up godless baby murdering sodomite policies by literally paying for them 0.90

01:16:26 there are many christians in california right now they pay way more to the state than they tithe 0.96

01:16:34 at their church and at the end of the day yes

01:16:38 we are engaged in a spiritual war but that spiritual war has physical earthly tangible

01:16:48 implications it's not just a battle spiritual warfare being fought in in the 17th dimension

01:16:56 somewhere out there there's real battle here real battle here how we educate our kids public school

01:17:06 do we do that what kind of jobs we work what kind of businesses we start

01:17:13 it's not just that we plant good christian not woke churches that is not enough we don't win

01:17:22 that way we don't win that way yes we need to plant biblical conservative true churches 0.91

01:17:29 that are not given to neo-Marxism and communism and all the other garbage that's been crammed 0.98

01:17:37 down our throat as of late. But we also need to start businesses. We need to have kids. If we can, 0.94

01:17:44 we need to have lots of kids. We need to see Christians get married younger and not at 35. 0.98

01:17:52 And a lot of this has idolatry and bad theology, but a lot of it has economic implications. People 0.95

01:17:58 get married later for a host of reasons, but one of them is financial. People, you know, have two

01:18:03 kids instead of four kids, and one of that is financial. Well, a lot of those finances, part of

01:18:09 that, in part, financial added difficulties and challenges is because of where you live. That's

01:18:16 part of it. Steve Dates, again, I like what he said about this. You know, he was commentating on

01:18:22 the fact that Trump got six million votes in California, right? And, oh, California,

01:18:28 you know, turning the tide. No, not even close. Biden got twice as many. But he talked about how

01:18:33 in four other swing states that Biden won, I believe it's Michigan, Arizona, Nevada,

01:18:42 and Nevada, Michigan, Arizona, and one other, maybe Wisconsin. That might've been it.

01:18:54 Basically four, four states that were swing states, notorious swing states, but they went

01:18:59 blue. They went for Biden. And if those four states had gone for Trump, then Trump would have

01:19:05 won the electoral college. He would be the president, right? You talk about love your

01:19:09 neighbors love your neighbors okay 13 of our service member neighbors wouldn't have died in

01:19:14 afghanistan um what's going on with russia and ukraine that would have been better it would have

01:19:20 you know it would have um certain sanctions just switching over from the u.s dollar globally all

01:19:25 these nations in allegiance because we're weak we're a weak nation they know it um energy crisis

01:19:32 northern pipeline um all these different things i mean and that's and that's without even getting

01:19:37 into the vax mandates and all the people that lost their jobs i mean it has been a catastrophe

01:19:41 right and then abortion and and uh transgenderism and all i mean everything like and and trump's no

01:19:48 saint hear me um but i'm just saying trump would have been a lot better than biden when we talk

01:19:58 about loving our neighbors and i mean there's literally people who would be alive right now

01:20:00 who are dead because of that presidential election right so one way to love your neighbors first

01:20:08 step in loving your neighbors is is try not to kill your neighbors right um and you know you

01:20:13 didn't do it directly but one way to not kill your neighbors is to not have a a a killing tyrant

01:20:19 totalitarian tyrant as president if you can help it well the electoral college trump would be

01:20:24 president if in those four states collectively i believe it's it's um it was 76,530 something

01:20:35 so i know it's 76,000 something so let's just you know to make sure that we're conservative here

01:20:42 77,000 that covers it trump lost the popular vote for it by you know trump lost the popular vote

01:20:49 we'll never know but allegedly he lost the popular vote by 10 million

01:20:54 um but he lost electoral vote by those four states and within those four states collectively

01:21:01 the popular vote for biden that beat trump in those four states nevada arizona wisconsin and

01:21:07 i think it's not michigan it's one other one i can't remember um but in those four states

01:21:12 collectively it was like 77 000 votes popular vote that would have swung all four of those

01:21:18 states so it's like 20 000 in one state and 40 000 another state and 15 000 in this state and

01:21:23 that you know blah blah blah and and if they had had had more conservatives christians living there

01:21:29 in the popular vote in those states voting for trump then he would have gotten those four states

01:21:34 the electoral college he would have won the electoral college he would have won the presidency

01:21:38 and um and we'd have all the trump problems because again trump ain't no saint and gosh i'd

01:21:44 rather have desantis personally than trump but uh i'd rather have trump than biden and that's not

01:21:50 saying hey let's run him in 2024 um i think he'll lose personally i think he'll lose uh i just i

01:21:57 don't think he can win um i'm grateful for everything that god did through him all of his

01:22:02 policies and those kinds of things i don't think he'll win um but he could have won in 2020 don't

01:22:06 think he'll win in 2024 um but he could have won in 2020 um but part of the reason he didn't win

01:22:13 is because we need we need a total this is the grand total 77 000 more republican votes

01:22:20 but it's not just how you vote this is what christians we we can't be naive we need to be

01:22:26 shrewd as serpents i'm talking to you right now like like like you're a grown-up now some of you

01:22:31 guys in the comment section will quickly swiftly prove that you're not a grown-up but i'm giving

01:22:37 you the benefit of the doubt i'm treating you like a grown-up i'm doing some real talk how to win

01:22:40 talk how to protect your future grandkids talk what are we going to do the enemy is at the gate

01:22:49 talk if you can handle it if you can stomach it yeah we do need christian nationalism amen

01:22:56 now all that being said trump would have won in 2020 if he had 77 000 more votes in those four

01:23:04 strategic places uh it's not just how you vote this is what i want to say it's not just how you

01:23:09 vote. It's also where you vote. So think about this again, 77,000 votes total in those four

01:23:16 states. Trump is president. He wins electoral college. And how many votes were flushed down

01:23:24 the toilet for Trump in California? Six million. Think about that for a second. And I was one of

01:23:34 i left california in 2020 december i cast my vote for trump in a porta potty

01:23:42 effectively essentially that's that's what it is that's what it is to vote conservatively in

01:23:48 california it is to it is to take your vote you don't even like save some time right spend time

01:23:54 with the kids save some time don't go into a ballot box right just write the person's name

01:23:58 on a piece of paper if you're voting conservatively in california then wad it up put it in the toilet 0.83

01:24:03 and flush that's what i did so i'm not i'm not trying to be mean i did it and it was dumb i'm

01:24:09 trying to grow up i'd like you to also six million votes for trump 77 000 you know what that is that's

01:24:15 less than 1.5 percent less than 1.5 percent of the trump votes cast just in california if they had

01:24:24 gone respectively to these four states and cast their vote there we would not have had a joe

01:24:31 biden presidency no kamala harris no no joke of a press secretary two of them the one we currently

01:24:39 have is even worse um the world would be different the economy would be different people who are

01:24:45 struggling gas prices would have been different inflation would have been different recession

01:24:49 would have been different people would have jobs who currently don't have jobs vax mandates would

01:24:53 not have happened yes trump is ridiculous about the facts i understand he can't that's why trump's

01:24:57 not the guy he's not the guy he can't let it he just trump when he's when he's right he's right 0.91

01:25:02 and he'll never let it go like a bulldog and when he's wrong he stays wrong and he'll never let it

01:25:06 go like a bulldog right so operation warp speed and stuff like because trump was a part of that

01:25:10 he cannot admit that his base doesn't like that that poison and he just can't he just can't which

01:25:19 we know that about trump he literally said like when somebody asked him about repentance i don't

01:25:22 repent i just i just try not to do what's wrong right trump as far as i can tell he's not a

01:25:26 christian he would not be an elder at my church or deacon and may not even pass as as you know

01:25:33 the the interview that i have with each member of our church so i'm not saying he's a great guy

01:25:38 i'm still grateful for him and he would have been way better just like king cyrus god you know god

01:25:45 used some pagan kings in his providence because god is sovereign he guides the heart of kings

01:25:51 like water in whichever way he wishes them to go. Trump was good in that regard. He was certainly

01:25:59 an improvement. He was certainly better. So all that being said, the book coming out, let's put

01:26:02 it on the screen one more time, Fight by Flight. Not just, hey, you can stay and fight in your blue

01:26:08 city, blue state, blue country, right? Our church, we have some families from Canada. They literally,

01:26:13 and we're in Texas. It's not like we're in Michigan. It's not like we're right across

01:26:16 the border or something like that. We're not in Washington. We're not in Wyoming.

01:26:20 mean uh we are in texas these are families who move 2 000 miles um and our our members in our

01:26:28 church and more are coming and we've got families we're talking to in germany uh that have reached

01:26:33 out say we're thinking about coming and so we're trying to build a brigade here with the school

01:26:38 church the church is the beachhead right that's that's uh the the beaches of normandy right that's

01:26:43 that's the hq the headquarters that's the tip of the spear first thing you do when you're going to

01:26:47 take over the land plant a church then you need to start a school you need to have a publishing

01:26:53 company publishing house all that you know all these and those men you know and women you got

01:26:58 to have kids don't hand your kids over to the state start businesses make money buy dirt right

01:27:05 those kinds of that's what we're doing here in central texas believe it or not um moscow idaho

01:27:10 is not the only place where that happens god bless doug and what they're doing there if you

01:27:14 want a reformed baptist version of that that in many ways is is i hold to baptismal catholicity

01:27:23 i'm friendly and i just don't make a big deal about pedo credo baptism kind of stuff but i am

01:27:28 technically a reformed baptist but still strictly covenantal and theonomic and kyperian and

01:27:33 post-millennialism and the whole nine yards if you want to do that and you want to start

01:27:37 culture here, Christian culture, and not just spiritual warfare in the 17th dimension, but

01:27:46 actually Christianity, theology, as Doug would say, that comes out of your fingertips,

01:27:51 real fruit, real Christian fruit, then you should check it out. You should check out what we're

01:27:57 doing here. You should read this book and learn how you can be a part of it here or do it yourself

01:28:01 somewhere else. And you should check out, all the way back, longest announcement ever made,

01:28:06 you should check out the documentary. We've got Fight by Flight, the book. It's forwarded by

01:28:11 Doug Wilson because he's been an advocate of this for a long time. I've got the forward by Doug

01:28:17 Wilson. You'll see some of the endorsements are on the back. There's more endorsements

01:28:21 within the book, but some of the endorsements are we've got Steve Dace from The Blaze endorsed it,

01:28:26 Megan Basham from The Daily Wire endorsed it. I've got Michael Foster. It's good to be a man.

01:28:30 he endorsed it. Dale Partridge, relearn.org endorsed it. Samuel Say, Slow to Write. Some

01:28:36 of you guys know Samuel Say. He endorsed the book. Joe Boot with the Ezra Institute, he endorsed the

01:28:41 book. I actually even have an endorsement from Charlie Kirk. I wouldn't agree with all of his

01:28:46 theology, but politically, he's done some really good things. Charlie Kirk from Turning Point USA,

01:28:51 he endorsed the book. So it's a good one. I'm biased. It's super short. It's super short. It's

01:28:59 like i think it's like 90 pages less than 100 pages super short super simple uh gets into you

01:29:05 know how everybody botched it especially pastors with covid and how to not let that happen again

01:29:10 not just with covid but the next thing because it will be a new thing and uh and talks about why

01:29:15 you should move and stop stop stop we're we're fighting in california no and and you will move

01:29:24 and for those of you well what about john mccarthur i actually have a section in the book

01:29:28 that covers John MacArthur. I'll give you the sneak peek version. John MacArthur is deciding

01:29:33 at 83 years old where to finish the race. If you're 30, you're deciding where to start the

01:29:40 race. John MacArthur was ordained as the pastor of Grace Community Church in 1967.

01:29:48 you know who was the governor in 1967 in california well it was it was the the schwarzenator

01:29:59 right you know it was uh it was gavin newsom right no yeah it it was ronald reagan

01:30:10 when macarthur put down roots in california and said this is home base and this is where

01:30:16 i'm going to plant it you know he didn't plant a church but where i'm going to pastor a church and

01:30:18 do this and california was a different world california was conservative ronald reagan was

01:30:25 macarthur's governor and to pretend like well macarthur's here yeah macarthur's there because

01:30:31 macarthur god bless him but he's about to be in glory i don't know if you went to shepherds if

01:30:37 you watch him macarthur's barely standing macarthur has been faithful he's run the race

01:30:42 and he's deciding where to finish the race where you finish a race after being there for a very

01:30:47 long time that's a very different question to ask than where to start the race for those of you who

01:30:52 have two kids and a third on the way and are talking about where to start your business

01:30:58 that is not that is to compare yourself to to the the same kind of of a rationale that macarthur

01:31:06 is using is is foolish macarthur is in southern california in la for two reasons one because he's

01:31:12 deciding where to finish the race faithfully not where to start it that's categorically different 0.99

01:31:17 and secondly macarthur is in southern california because of his theology macarthur is a leaky

01:31:22 dispensational pre-millennialist he's a dispensational pre-millennialist if you are a

01:31:29 pre-millennial and a dispensationalist then yeah jesus is coming back next thursday just snatch

01:31:35 souls from the fire. And you might as well go where the fire is the hottest. But if you're

01:31:39 going to be consistent, logically consistent, then why stop with California? Sure, the fire

01:31:43 is pretty hot there, but you should really, if you're serious, you should be a missionary in

01:31:47 North Korea. Don't compromise, brother. Don't sell out. So if you are dispensational and

01:31:55 premillennial, and Jesus is coming back next Thursday, and you're a two-kingdom guy, you know,

01:31:59 and all we really do is plant churches and save souls and baptize, great. Therefore,

01:32:05 stands to reason you know it's all fire it's all going to burn go to where the fire is the hottest

01:32:10 and uh the fire is not hottest in california go to china go to north korea go to venezuela

01:32:15 be serious really really follow your convictions for all the rest of you

01:32:22 who don't hold that theology and who also are not 83 years old come to texas georgetown texas

01:32:30 or go to Moscow, Idaho, or go to Ogden, Utah with Brian Sauve, Eric Kahn, Dan Burkholder.

01:32:36 Great guys there.

01:32:37 There are places to go.

01:32:39 There are places where you can go and do faithful work.

01:32:42 And if you want a roadmap and you want more details, I'm giving you a lot of details.

01:32:45 But if you want more details and you want to see how to do it yourself or how to join

01:32:50 someone who's doing it or the whole COVID facade, that veil ripped back in the theology

01:32:56 because it's going to happen again.

01:32:57 the theology that'll save you next time because it's a principle it's not just like well you know

01:33:02 if we had really known the data like no no you don't need to know covet to know what to do you

01:33:07 need to know the bible to know what to do and i break down uh the biblical ecclesiology that the

01:33:13 church was lacking so if you want all that check out the book it'll be coming out soon it's not out

01:33:17 yet but as i said steve days has uh he's endorsed it meg basham from the daily wire steve days from

01:33:23 the blaze you've got michael foster you've got um you've got dale partridge you got joe boot you

01:33:28 got samuel say and doug wilson wrote the ford it's going to be coming out in about a month and a half

01:33:32 it's called fight by flight um i'm still working on the subtitle a little bit i'm going back and

01:33:37 forth between a biblical case for leaving godless places um but also another subtitle in the works

01:33:43 is um loving godless places by fleeing godless places and the book really addresses both and

01:33:51 it'll be out uh my goal is by the conference uh and to have some physical copies available a couple

01:33:57 hundred that i'll be able to um to make available at the theonomy and post-millennialism conference

01:34:02 coming up may 5th 6th and 7th uh where we have over 500 people coming and over 100 people on

01:34:08 a waiting list you know hoping that one of them gets sick you know so that they can take their

01:34:12 spot um but we've got all that and we also got nathan anderson um and his assistant flying out

01:34:17 to make the fight-by-flight documentary

01:34:20 that's all about theonomy and post-millennialism,

01:34:22 but now just a little bit more specific in this vein.

01:34:25 So those are some of the things that we're up to.

01:34:27 We're working on with Right Response.

01:34:28 In addition to that, we also have Chris Wiley.

01:34:31 I'm gonna announce this with more details soon,

01:34:34 but in November, I'll give you the exact dates and stuff,

01:34:37 but at our church, Covenant Bible Church,

01:34:38 is gonna be hosting a conference on patriarchy

01:34:42 and covenant households.

01:34:44 And that's gonna be with C.R. Wiley, Chris Wiley.

01:34:46 and uh i still need to ultimately confirm it but right now it looks like jared longshore is going

01:34:53 to join us as well so we've got another conference coming in the fall and we'll make that available

01:34:57 soon i need to iron out a little bit more details but should be uh early november before the

01:35:02 holidays and then we've also got another big spring conference where we've booked a venue that host

01:35:09 a thousand people because we ran out with the theonomy and post-millennialism conference sold

01:35:13 out six months in advance. So we have in faith, uh, booked a venue for our next big conference.

01:35:20 Basically I want to do two conferences a year, a big one in the spring. This year is our theonomy

01:35:24 late spring, theonomy and post-millennialism conference. And then a smaller one, uh, in the

01:35:28 fall, um, next year's big spring conference is already on the horizon. And, uh, uh, should I

01:35:36 break it? Should I break the news? Doug Wilson's coming, broke the news. Doug Wilson has officially

01:35:41 confirmed. He's going to be at the conference. The title of the conference is going to be

01:35:45 Seven Doctrines for Ruling the World. Seven Doctrines for Ruling the World.

01:35:52 Reformed Confessionalism, Covenant Theology, Biblical Patriarchy, Presuppositionalism, 0.70

01:35:59 Kyperianism, General Equity Theonomy, and Post-Millennialism. Seven sessions covering

01:36:05 each of those various topics, dealing with all the counters. Presuppositionalism will deal with

01:36:09 Thomism. Kyperianism will deal with radical two-kingdomism. Theonomy will deal with its

01:36:16 arch nemesis, antinominalism. Postmillennialism will deal with a little bit of all-millennialism,

01:36:25 but also premillennialism. And then you've got confessionalism, reform theology, that dealing

01:36:31 with the antithesis of Arminian theology and all these other different things. Patriarchy,

01:36:37 dealing with feminism and egalitarianism and soft complementarianism, biblical patriarchy,

01:36:42 covenant theology, dealing with dispensationalism. And I think that covers just about everything.

01:36:49 Yeah, it's going to be good. It's going to be seven sessions. And we got a venue in Williamson

01:36:55 County where I am north of Austin. Somebody said we're in Texas, Georgetown, Texas, about 45 minutes

01:37:01 north of Austin, Texas, separate county where the police don't get defunded. The red state

01:37:06 provisions of texas some of the economic opportunity of austin um georgetown texas that's

01:37:12 williamson county and uh in williamson county that's where we're going to have all of our all

01:37:16 of our events will be here you got to come to texas uh but that that'll be next spring uh earlier

01:37:23 in the spring and we've got doug wilson we're shaping up with some other speakers as well

01:37:28 some big uh well-known names that are faithful and gifted and solid and so that'll be big and

01:37:35 we're going to hold it at the Expo Center, the Williamson County Expo Center, where they do

01:37:41 rodeos in true Texas fashion. But it's indoors, air-conditioned, nice, cool. And it seats 1,000

01:37:48 people. And I assume we'll be sold out six months in advance again. And so for everybody who's been

01:37:53 complaining, oh, you're sold out. We want to come to your conference. Did you get a bigger venue?

01:37:56 I told you guys. I told you. I told you. I told you. I said, we will sell out in advance. And

01:38:00 nobody believed me um so with this next one as soon as we officially announce it and we put it

01:38:06 up the website's there and you can register register fast uh because seven doctrines for

01:38:13 ruling the world that's a conference that's going to sell out i want to do like some kind of like

01:38:17 christian thanos but but we need we need seven uh gemstones you know infinity stones you know

01:38:24 the presuppositional stone that you know but and it's not for seven doctrines for taking over the

01:38:30 world although there's a little bit of that but it's for ruling the world stewarding the world

01:38:34 exercising godly christian dominion in the world um you can't do it uh with bad doctrine you need

01:38:43 to first understand what the bible teaches and believe it and know it and understand it and so

01:38:47 that you can live it um so all that being said uh we'll go back i'm going to land the plane with

01:38:52 the paganism secularism chrysidom kind of thing i want to talk about that one more time um

01:38:59 secularism is not viable this is the whole point that i want to make let's go ahead and show a

01:39:06 bible verse this this is something that jesus says that there's an individual application to this

01:39:11 but i also believe there's a you know societal application of this this is matthew chapter 12

01:39:17 verse 43 through 45 jesus says when the unclean spirit has gone out of a person it passes through

01:39:24 waterless places seeking rest but finds none then it says i will return to my house from which i

01:39:32 came and when it comes it finds the house empty swept and put in order then it goes and brings

01:39:40 with it seven other spirits more evil than itself and they enter and dwell there and the last state 0.66

01:39:46 of that person is worse than the first so also will it be with this evil generation

01:39:53 jesus cast out a bunch of evil spirits he bound satan the chief demon uh but then he also cast

01:40:01 out a bunch of evil spirits and those evil spirits when they were cast out they went into

01:40:06 arid places and found no rest that's in terms of demonology what we can tell from the scripture

01:40:11 is it um not having a host demons just going through arid places not being able to possess

01:40:18 someone having a home a host is a restless state seems to be a restless state for demons to where

01:40:26 they begged jesus in one instance if he was going to cast them out of a person they begged jesus

01:40:31 that they would be able permitted to go into pigs not saying that that's their uh their ideal

01:40:38 home but it seems as though in the mind of a demon that better to inhabit pigs than to inhabit

01:40:45 nothing and jesus permits them to go into the pigs and then they drown the pigs

01:40:51 demons can possess animals they can sea serpents that may be alive even today two thousand feet

01:41:01 underneath the surface of the ocean because only five percent of the floor bed of the ocean has

01:41:06 been explored thus far that's your tom and brian with haunted cosmos a little bit of that which

01:41:11 by the way um the plan is for them to come on our show uh theology applied here in the near future

01:41:16 so i'm excited about that um but demons can possess creatures not just human beings but also

01:41:23 other creatures as well and monsters physical monsters and there can be physical monsters that

01:41:29 god created dragons and there can also be dragons possessed by the spiritual sense of a dragon a

01:41:38 fallen angel demonic host demonic entities and there have been throughout human history

01:41:44 there have been hybrids of fallen angels demons seeing that the daughters of men are attractive

01:41:52 taking them in marriage and producing half man half demon giant people and we have in so much

01:42:00 of uh ancient history uh all these records of giants and even certain architecture and altars

01:42:09 and pyramids built with steps but steps that that are very clearly like you know three feet high you

01:42:15 know five feet high for each step um and you know people have you know we just we think we know

01:42:20 everything today it was so arrogant secularism has made us so arrogant we think that we can

01:42:27 answer every question dot every i cross every t um with some kind of materialistic explanation

01:42:36 but that's just not true and so we look and we say oh well this this myth and that myth you know

01:42:41 in this ancient history it's uh giants you know uh intellectual giants intellectual titans you

01:42:47 know that just meant that this person in this culture was um really smart or it was a giant

01:42:55 a literal Nephilim giant and they worshiped them. The last thing that I want to say on this topic

01:43:04 is this. Some of you may be thinking about the apostle Paul who says he talks about idolatry

01:43:10 and he says that a man would worship an idol which is no God at all. Paul doesn't give

01:43:19 credence to idols like it's not a god it's not just it's a false god it's not the the the true

01:43:28 triune god the strongest god the christian god um but no it's it's not even a god it's fake it's

01:43:35 nothing isaiah uses this language too i believe it's isaiah that talks about you know from one

01:43:40 one hunk of wood block of wood a man you know uh cuts it in half and uses um half of it to carve

01:43:47 into an idol that he bows down and worship and the other half he uses um to burn on the fire to cook

01:43:52 his meal and it's just making fun of you know like those who worship idols become like them 0.97

01:43:57 dumb right idols do not see they do not hear deaf dumb those who worship idols however let me say 0.98

01:44:05 this there is a distinction between an idol and a demonic spirit god lowercase d 0.99

01:44:17 deity false deity when when paul says the idol is nothing that's true it's a it's a hunk of wood

01:44:25 but those who venerate these idols

01:44:28 throughout human history looking back to ancient history assyria egypt persians medes all these

01:44:39 different things um yeah the idol was a hunk of wood it was a piece of stone it was an inanimate

01:44:46 object that had no power in and of itself but these idols represented gods and even the pagans 0.97

01:44:53 knew that they weren't stupid these pagan people were not stupid they were not the neanderthals 0.87

01:44:59 that we think they worshipped idols because idols represented gods and the gods were real 0.99

01:45:07 they were real and for gods to have regional authority and power over places like we see in

01:45:15 the book of Daniel. The prince of Persia held me up, the angel says to Daniel. For them to have

01:45:22 regional positions of power, like for instance, I don't know, the ocean, Poseidon, Zeus,

01:45:34 all these different ideas. I think that many of these ideas, they are myths that have

01:45:43 maintained over centuries millennia for a reason because i think there's at least some truth

01:45:50 doesn't mean all of it's true every detail right there is something unique about yahweh

01:45:55 for the record that he has authority even over the wind and waves

01:46:00 i think that is unique however it seems as though when god gave satan authority he gave him

01:46:11 permission to go and torment job what did what did satan do it seems as though one of the things

01:46:18 he did is he caused a great wind to come and knock over the house that crushed job's children

01:46:24 food for thought maybe our next episode maybe when i have brian and tom come come on with haunted

01:46:33 cosmos you know we'll talk more about this but the point is um i keep saying i'm going to end

01:46:39 i really am the way to think about secularism is like this secularism is um secularism

01:46:47 it's it's a parasite it's not viable i said this in my sermon yesterday i talked about how the

01:46:54 resurrection eradicates um paganism and um marxism and communism and products of secularism

01:47:03 the resurrection wherever it goes it doesn't just it's not just that faith in the gospel

01:47:08 regenerates individual hearts, but it pushes back demonic powers regionally over cultures and

01:47:15 nations. Uh, check out the sermon from yesterday if you haven't gotten a chance. Um, but all that

01:47:20 being said, secularism is not viable. Secularism is not going to be, uh, what, what nations and

01:47:25 cultures and societies believe, uh, for millennia. A few centuries, yes. Uh, but here we are a few

01:47:32 centuries into secularism and it's about to implode because secularism is like a parasite 1.00

01:47:40 it only works on a host the problem is with all parasites eventually it kills the host and seals 0.99

01:47:49 its own death as well it ends up killing itself secularism in the west has been feeding off of

01:47:56 chrysidom the only reason classical liberalism and some of these things have looked appeared 0.85

01:48:01 viable for a time is because you had chrysidom on the decline you had secularism the parasite

01:48:08 rising in its strength as it's killing the host so secularism on the rise and you have chrysidom

01:48:14 on on the decline and as they kind of met right two ships passing in the night as they're kind of

01:48:20 meeting right so you're like 50 chrysidom and 50 secularism it looked like hey moral neutrality is

01:48:28 a thing. No, that's not moral neutrality that we're looking at. What we're looking at is

01:48:33 half secularism and half chrysanthemum to where it appears to be neutral. It's just two powerful

01:48:40 magnets canceling one another out. That's all it is. But chrysanthemum has continued to wane

01:48:47 as people have further, our nation is further and further apostatized. And you look at Europe

01:48:52 and other places that have apostatized even more. And as it has, what do you see? You don't just

01:48:57 see secularism on the rise because secularism has, there's nothing to rise. It's not viable.

01:49:02 It's not, it's not an independent host itself. It's only a parasite that can attach and kill 0.98

01:49:08 a host. And so all this being said, the point is that as Christendom wanes, if God doesn't send

01:49:17 revival or bust and secularism kills Christendom, secularism will also wane. It will kill itself.

01:49:24 it's self-defeating right it one of the reasons it's not viable is because secularism the logical 0.99

01:49:29 end of secularism is transgender transgenderism secularism hates kids no worldview that hates

01:49:38 having children that hates reproduction is viable long term that's pretty clear pretty clear so 0.83

01:49:45 secularism is defeating christendom and defeating itself what will replace it it will not be this

01:49:51 sophisticated scientific secularism it will be raw mystical religious cultish paganism

01:50:03 and that's what you're seeing right now you're seeing certain statues this statue of the founders

01:50:10 has to be torn down and then some pagan god erected it's not a joke it's not a coincidence

01:50:17 it's not being funny 0.96

01:50:19 it is a return 1.00

01:50:21 to the old European 0.99

01:50:23 pagan gods

01:50:25 that have been lying dormant

01:50:28 sleeping

01:50:29 going through arid places

01:50:31 for a millennia

01:50:33 but they're still here

01:50:36 they don't get destroyed

01:50:38 until the lake of fire

01:50:39 they will come back

01:50:42 if we invite them

01:50:44 and when a demon is cast out

01:50:46 and goes through arid places

01:50:47 but comes back because Christ isn't there.

01:50:51 The house is in order. 0.75

01:50:53 Christianity, Christendom in the Christian faith 0.99

01:50:56 has swept the European Western civilization house in order. 0.74

01:51:02 Christianity came, first it cast out the demons,

01:51:05 the false gods, and then put everything in order.

01:51:09 That's what Christianity does. 0.88

01:51:10 God is a God of order, not chaos.

01:51:12 He put society in order, governments in order,

01:51:14 culture and arts and all these things, beauty in order.

01:51:17 And he sent the demons flee.

01:51:21 But if we then cast out Christ, reject Christ, rebel against Christ,

01:51:25 then there's a house that now is in order, but empty.

01:51:30 It's available.

01:51:32 And the demons will come back.

01:51:34 And the final state of that house, it's not just, this doesn't just apply to individuals,

01:51:39 but societies and cultures, the final state of that society of Western civilization,

01:51:44 having been put in order by chrysidom but empty because of sin and rebellion against christ

01:51:49 the demons will return and the final state will be seven times worse than the former

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The NXR Podcast - April 28, 2023

BONUS EPISODE - From Christendom Back To Paganism ｜ Secularism Was Just A Placeholder ｜ Live with Pastor Joel

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