The NXR Podcast - February 09, 2023


BONUS EPISODE - Protecting Our Children: How AI Threatens the Next Generation (A Biblical Theology of AI)

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In this episode, Pastor Joel Webin discusses artificial intelligence (AI) and how Christians should view it through a biblical lens. He discusses the role of fathers in raising their children in the fear and admonition of the Lord, and how they are duty bound to protect our children. God bless!

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00:00:40 All right, guys. Welcome back to another one of our Monday live episodes with myself, Pastor Joel
00:00:45 Webin, host of Right Response Ministries. We do this each Monday at 2 p.m. Central Time. Each
00:00:50 Monday at 2 p.m. Central Time, and I'm about 50-50. About half of the time, I'll take questions from
00:00:57 our listeners. And about the other half of the time, I have something that I want to address.
00:01:01 And today is the latter. There's something that I think is relevant, urgent, and significant that
00:01:07 needs to be addressed from a Christian worldview. That something is AI, artificial intelligence,
00:01:14 most notably, or recently, having to do with specific forms and tools of AI like chat, GTP,
00:01:21 which would be a text form but also we would have things like Dolly which is an imaging
00:01:28 processor. It's an AI that can generate images. All these being original images and pictures you
00:01:35 type in a prompt and it gives you something to work with. You further prompt the technology and
00:01:41 it gives you something more. So chat GTP and Dolly but all within the larger discussion of
00:01:47 artificial intelligence. How should Christians think about this and particularly what I want 0.93
00:01:50 to deal with is how Christians should think about this in relation to our children. As we are seeking
00:01:57 to be diligent to fulfill the scriptural command, especially as it has to do with fathers, to train
00:02:04 up our children in the fear and admonition of the Lord. We have a responsibility to provide for our
00:02:10 children. That includes their education, the shaping and forming of their minds, their Christian
00:02:15 worldview, their faith. So providing for our children, but also protecting our children. There's
00:02:20 physical protection, but there's also spiritual and mental protection that's all baked into the
00:02:25 pie. And so how should we as Christians through a biblical lens view artificial intelligence,
00:02:30 and particularly how should we view it in light of our role, our God-given assignment
00:02:35 to provide and protect our children? Okay, so all that being said, let's start with some
00:02:40 definitions. The first thing that we need to understand about artificial intelligence that
00:02:44 I think a lot of Christians don't understand, a lot of people in general don't understand,
00:02:48 is there are three basic types of AI. There's obviously more complex things that could be
00:02:54 discussed that would be above my pay grade, but what a basic understanding that I have that
00:02:59 generally kind of covers the field is this. You have narrow AI, you have IG or AGI, AGI, which is
00:03:07 artificial general intelligence, and then you have an idea. It's really just a concept of
00:03:12 transhumanism, okay? So you have AI, artificial intelligence, which really more specifically
00:03:18 should be described as narrow AI. And then you have this idea of artificial general intelligence,
00:03:24 AGI, and then transhumanism. And so what we're discussing, what right now is on the horizon and
00:03:31 already here with chat GTP being one example, Dolly being another example, is what would fall
00:03:36 into the category of narrow AI. This is not artificial general intelligence. It's not
00:03:42 conscious, is what I'm saying. Transhumanism, so let me just give you a little bit of a definition
00:03:47 of these terms. Transhumanism would be like the attempt of people to somehow upload their
00:03:53 consciousness onto silicon, and have basically uploading their personhood up into the cloud, 0.89
00:04:00 that they would exist forever. This is the attempt of pagan men who hate God to try to escape their 0.97
00:04:07 own mortality, to try to be able to escape their own death, to deify themselves, to become as God, 0.81
00:04:14 man's attempt to be God, right? So there's transhumanism, which is to take your consciousness 0.97
00:04:19 and input it into some computer so that you essentially, effectively live forever. This is
00:04:26 not something that has been accomplished. In my perspective, this is something that will never be
00:04:31 accomplished. God won't allow this to be accomplished, I think, on two levels. One,
00:04:35 in his sovereignty, in his providence, he would not allow it to be accomplished. We see Psalm
00:04:40 chapter 2, that the nations rage, that the rulers of this world, they seek to break the bonds apart.
00:04:47 What that's referring to is they seek to be autonomous. They seek to have an autonomous
00:04:53 libertarian definition of freedom. They don't want to be underneath the banner of a sovereign God
00:05:00 who dictates and orchestrates and ordains all things. They hate the deterministic sovereignty
00:05:06 of God. They want to be autonomous creatures apart from God's sovereignty, autonomously
00:05:12 free, right? So the nations are raging against God and his authority. The rulers of this age,
00:05:18 of this world are seeking to break apart the bonds. They're trying to somehow sever themselves
00:05:24 from being under the banner of God's sovereignty and attain this autonomous freedom. And God's
00:05:30 response is this, he doesn't even bother to get up off of his throne, as it were. It doesn't even
00:05:36 merit an active, as it were, using analogous language, it doesn't even merit an active
00:05:43 response from God. He who sits in the heavens, he sits, he remains seated, composed, and he laughs
00:05:50 and holds them in derision. So one, I don't think transhumanism is going to be achieved because I 0.93
00:05:55 don't believe God and his sovereignty would allow it. But secondly, I think practically it's not 1.00
00:06:00 going to be achieved. God is the only capital C creator, right? God is the only one who creates
00:06:05 ex nihilo out of nothing. All we do as image bearers of the living God, as human beings made
00:06:11 in his image is that we are creators in a sense. We are lowercase c creators. None of us are able
00:06:17 as creatures to create out of nothing. Only God is able to do that, and he has. We are able to
00:06:24 take the things that God has made and produce from them other tools and developments and
00:06:31 innovations. That's what we're able to do. We're able to multiply resources and take one thing and
00:06:36 make another, shape it, form it, but we are not able to create out of nothing. And so all we're
00:06:42 able to work with at the end of the day, as image bearers of the living God, lowercase c creators,
00:06:47 is we're able to create with the substance, the resources that God has provided for us,
00:06:52 namely the materials that God has baked into the world that he has made. And I do not believe that
00:06:58 the materials are available, that they even exist to achieve something like transhumanism,
00:07:05 to where we would be able to upload our consciousness into some kind of computer framework
00:07:11 to where our bodies could die, our physical bodies, but our consciousness could go on
00:07:18 eternally existing. That's not going to happen. Now, mark my words, I do think that there will
00:07:23 be people in the future who will lie to the general public, those who are naive enough to
00:07:28 believe it, ignorant enough to believe it, and say that that's happening, but it won't, right?
00:07:33 I do think that you could get to a point where your memories could be harvested for those 0.92
00:07:39 who are foolish or even for those, you know, not just Neuralink or some kind of chip in
00:07:43 your body, which I would advocate strongly against, but not just that, but harvesting 0.99
00:07:49 your memories and experiences and all these things just through your social media accounts
00:07:53 and just your online internet activity, right?
00:07:57 This is how Amazon is able to suggest, you know, what things might, you know, spark your
00:08:02 interest, what things you might be willing to purchase, because they can see all of your
00:08:06 previous purchases, and they can see what websites you've been on and what items you've looked at.
00:08:12 This is the same as streaming devices, whether it's Netflix or Disney+, these things, which 1.00
00:08:17 Disney+, would be a great example of something that I would recommend Christians not have, 1.00
00:08:22 especially for their children. Disney is utterly and entirely woke. They hate God. They hate 1.00
00:08:28 white people, they hate masculinity, and ultimately they hate Christian culture, 1.00
00:08:34 they hate Christ. But for those who have streaming services, all this kinds of stuff, 0.98
00:08:39 Google would be another example, Google Maps, not just Google Maps, but Apple Maps, any kind of
00:08:45 thing that's getting your directions, that knows these are the places that you visit most frequently,
00:08:49 and these are the searches that you put in when you're looking for things online that you use
00:08:56 most frequently. So is it possible in theory that pagan men who hate God would take a bunch of data
00:09:03 that they have about you, your memories and experiences and these kinds of things, and then
00:09:09 from that use a narrow AI tool or device in order to predict, to search through the log of your
00:09:17 memories and then offer a whole host of different scenarios and most likely predictions of what you
00:09:24 might say, right? So where your loved ones, you know, are asking you a question, you know, and
00:09:29 it's using this deep fake technology, which is real and currently available to mimic the way
00:09:35 that you look, mimic the sound of your voice, and then pull from all your past experiences that
00:09:41 they have access to, to then predict what you might say and do it in an original format again
00:09:48 and again and again, and ultimately lie to your loved ones and say that your consciousness that,
00:09:53 you know, so-and-so is not really dead, their consciousness is going on forever, and you've
00:09:58 preserved your loved one, and there's a monthly fee that you have to pay, you know, it's going to
00:10:02 cost money for us to keep your loved one, you know, eternally existing in this digital world
00:10:07 to where you can continue to have, you know, access to them relationally, and they're very
00:10:12 happy, and they're, you know, well, while all that's going on, of course, the reality is that
00:10:17 that person is either in heaven or hell, right? They're not in the cloud, that's just not going
00:10:21 to happen. So transhumanism is not going to happen because God in sovereignty wouldn't allow 0.97
00:10:26 it to happen. He would hold the powers that be in derision if he had to, or like the Tower of 0.72
00:10:32 Babel, he would come and confuse their languages in a literal sense or metaphorical sense to break
00:10:38 up that demonic unity against him. So in his sovereignty, God's not going to allow that to
00:10:44 happen. But then also, not just providentially, but practically, I don't believe that those
00:10:50 materials are available in the world. And for those of you who've been following the show for
00:10:55 a while, you're aware that I, you know, in terms of my eschatology, I hold to post-millennialism.
00:11:00 So I'm not saying that these kinds of things won't happen because Jesus is coming back next
00:11:04 Thursday and there's not enough time. I believe that if Christ tarried for 10,000 years, it still
00:11:10 wouldn't happen. One, because of God's sovereignty, not allowing it to happen. And two, because
00:11:14 practically it's not possible. And people pretend that it's possible. They can wish, they can dream,
00:11:20 but it's not possible. So transhumanism is not going to happen. But beyond just that, 0.96
00:11:25 I'm of the persuasion, this is my opinion, that AGI, this artificial general intelligence,
00:11:31 is also not going to happen. So to define that term for just a moment, the transhumanism is
00:11:36 uploading a person's conscience to some kind of computer framework, whereas AGI, artificial
00:11:41 general intelligence, would be somehow the machine itself, the computer, the AI attaining
00:11:47 consciousness. And what you need to understand about something like ChatGTP or Dolly or these
00:11:52 other programs, Jasper, different things that are launching on the scene, they're only going to get
00:11:56 better and there's only going to be more of them. There's going to be competition, all these
00:11:59 different things. As that happens, what you need to understand is that this computer, this
00:12:05 technology is not conscious and it is not thinking. It is searching and predicting with incredible
00:12:13 speed and incredible accuracy, but it is not thinking. So we're not talking about AI like
00:12:21 you would see in some kind of horror sci-fi movie. That's not what we have. It's not this artificial
00:12:27 general intelligence, but it's a narrow AI, a narrow artificial intelligence that searches
00:12:33 and then predicts. And so in that sense, if Christians want to, in principle, they say, 0.70
00:12:39 well, I don't think that this is right. I don't think it honors the Lord. I think that 0.63
00:12:42 there's a problem with this, and there's a problem with that. And I want to avoid using AI
00:12:46 altogether. Well, then you need to trash your smartphone. You need to never use Google or Bing
00:12:53 or any kind of search bar, you know, search technology. That is narrow AI. That's a form
00:12:59 of artificial intelligence. It's searching and predicting. So you need to get rid of that.
00:13:05 Furthermore, you can't use maps on your phone. If you use any streaming device, right, it's
00:13:10 predicting, Netflix or whatever it is, whatever kind of scenario you might have. It's looking
00:13:17 at the things that you've previously viewed, the things that you've previously liked. So it's
00:13:22 searching this backlog, and then it's predicting what you might click on in the future, what you
00:13:28 might find interesting in the future. This is what social media is doing. Social media is ultimately
00:13:33 just saying, hey, these are the kinds of things that the person clicks on, the kinds of things
00:13:37 that the person seems to be, based off of their past history, interested in. And we're going to
00:13:42 keep putting these things in front of you, predicting what you might find most interesting
00:13:46 in any given moment in order to keep you on our site longer. All of these are forms of AI. And so
00:13:54 it's a narrow AI. It's not artificial general intelligence. It's not thinking. It's not
00:14:00 conscious. It doesn't have personhood or anything like that. But it is searching and predicting at
00:14:05 such speed and such accuracy that it appears to us as though there's actual thought. So it looks
00:14:14 like thinking. It's not. It is searching and predicting. All right? So narrow artificial
00:14:20 intelligence, that's some of the things that we have right now, like chat GTP would be an example.
00:14:26 Then this AGI, artificial general intelligence, where a machine actually has consciousness,
00:14:31 it's actually thinking. I believe that that is impossible, that that's not going to happen.
00:14:35 Again, twofold because God into sovereignty, I don't believe we'll allow it. And number two,
00:14:39 I don't think that those materials in a practical sense are actually in the cosmos that we would
00:14:45 need in order to develop such a thing. And then third, transhumanism, not making a machine man,
00:14:52 but trying to use a machine, upload a man to a machine to make man God, right? AGI is trying to
00:14:58 make a machine man. It's trying to make that artificial intelligence, give it personhood,
00:15:05 make it conscious, make it alive in a sense. So I don't think that's going to happen. AGI,
00:15:10 I don't think you're going to make machines into men. I also don't think that transhumanism 0.70
00:15:15 make men through machines into God, where they could somehow escape their own death and achieve
00:15:21 immortality. That's not going to happen either. But what I do think we're going to have
00:15:26 is further and further developments within this category of narrow AI, narrow artificial
00:15:33 intelligence. ChatGTP is just one example of narrow AI. All right, so now, all that being said,
00:15:40 we need to have a theology of tools. Doug Wilson has done some great work on this in the first
00:15:47 half of his book, Plot Activity. I'm going to use some of those concepts, and I'm going to add to
00:15:51 a little bit of some of my own research, my own thoughts. But the first thing is technology is
00:15:57 simply a tool. That's what it is. It's a tool. It's a high-powered form of a tool. The question
00:16:04 is, okay, but what is a tool? The Bible doesn't address tools at great length, right? We don't
00:16:09 have long, you know, multiple lengthy passages of Scripture dealing with tools. But we do have
00:16:16 plenty of scripture outlining for us a theology of wealth. And tools, technology is a form of a tool
00:16:24 and tools are a form of wealth. They're a form of wealth. And so we can look to the scripture and
00:16:30 see what does the scripture say the Christian's responsibility is to wealth. One of the things 0.92
00:16:36 that the scripture says, or I'll start by saying what it doesn't say, the Bible doesn't say that
00:16:41 money is the root of all evil. And the Bible also doesn't say, many of you are probably aware of
00:16:47 that. You're already ahead of me thinking, yeah, that's right. It's the love of money. Amen. But
00:16:52 the Bible, it doesn't say that money is the root of all evil. It doesn't also say that the love
00:16:58 of money is the root of all evil. The better translation of that is that the love of money
00:17:04 is the root of all kinds of evil, not all evil. It's not as though every sin that has ever been
00:17:11 committed throughout the whole course of human history can be tracked back to the love of money,
00:17:16 greed. But greed, as what I would consider to be a root sin or a root idol, this root idol of greed
00:17:26 can sprout, it can bear the fruit of all different types of sin. So it's not as though all sin that
00:17:33 has ever been committed tracks back to the root sin of greed, but greed is in fact, according to
00:17:39 the scripture, it is one of, I would argue, several, but it is one example of a root sin
00:17:46 that can give birth, it can produce all different categories of surface sins, right? To give some
00:17:52 more examples of root sins or root idols that give birth to multiple expressions of sin at the level
00:17:58 of thoughts and speech and actions, some other root idols or root sins would be the love of power,
00:18:07 love of control love of comfort and pleasure another would be certainly would be and we see
00:18:16 this throughout you know multiple places in scripture but the approval of man the incessant
00:18:22 desire and even need insecure incessant need for the approval not that comes from god as heavenly
00:18:29 father but that comes from man wanting the approval of man the fear of man can be a root
00:18:36 idol or root sin that drives all different kinds of surface sins, meaning that that desire to have
00:18:44 the approval and applause of man, being bound in slavery to the fear of man, can cause a person
00:18:50 to commit a whole host of different kinds of sin. So too, the love of money, greed, is not the root
00:18:58 of all sin, but it is the root of all kinds of sin, all kinds of evil. So every category,
00:19:06 every major category or expression, physical outward manifestation of different kinds of sins,
00:19:13 different kinds of evil can in fact come from greed, this one root sin. And likewise, you can
00:19:20 make the same argument when it comes to the root sin of the approval of man or the root sin of
00:19:25 addiction to pleasure and comfort or fill in the blank. I don't think that there's a limitless
00:19:30 amount of root sins. I think there's probably a good four, five, six of them, but then there's
00:19:36 virtually limitless expressions, outward manifestations of surface sins that come from
00:19:41 these root idols. So what does the Bible say about the Christian's responsibility to wealth?
00:19:46 Well, at first, it warns us. It doesn't say that money is evil. It doesn't say that money
00:19:53 is inherently immoral, but it does say that an idolatrous love of money, namely greed,
00:20:01 can bear all kinds of sinful fruit. That can be the source of all kinds of sinful fruit.
00:20:08 So the first thing, one of the first things that the Bible tells us about wealth, as we seek to
00:20:12 view wealth through a Christian lens, is that we should have a holy suspicion. We should be on our 0.90
00:20:19 guard. We should be seeking actively, diligently, constantly to guard our hearts in Christ Jesus and
00:20:25 to guard our minds by the truth of God's word. The heart, as Calvin said, is an idol-making
00:20:30 factory. So we need to be on guard against making money in idol, loving money in a sinful way.
00:20:39 That's the first thing. But then the Bible also says a lot about wealth in terms of positive
00:20:46 of things, that can be achieved by wealth. And a Christian has a responsibility to be ultimately, 0.89
00:20:52 the main word that's used again and again, is stewardship. That we are called as Christians
00:20:58 to recognize that in a very real sense, if we're to be literal about it, we as human beings,
00:21:05 whether we're Christian or non-Christian, we as mere creatures do not own anything.
00:21:11 God is the one who owns the cattle on a thousand hills. God made everything, and therefore God has 0.56
00:21:17 exclusive ownership rights over everything. And so we are simply stewards in the master's house.
00:21:25 This world is a blood-bought world. This world belongs to King Jesus. It belongs to him. He's
00:21:32 the one who has ownership over the world, but his servants have stewardship responsibilities
00:21:37 within his kingdom, within his house. And so we are called to steward wealth in wise, careful,
00:21:46 God-glorifying, and neighbor-loving ways for the good of our neighbor and for the glory of God.
00:21:54 That's the Christian's responsibility to wealth. Tools being a form of wealth and technology being 0.62
00:22:01 a high-powered, sophisticated form of a tool. So I think the first thing that we should think of
00:22:07 is that, well, let's go back to wealth for a second. If somebody has little wealth,
00:22:13 then there is little potential for sin, to use that wealth in corrupt ways. There's still plenty
00:22:21 of temptation to be greedy. You can be poor and be greedy. You can be poor and be more greedy
00:22:26 than somebody who's rich. But in terms of the utilization of wealth, using it for nefarious
00:22:32 means, using it in corrupt ways. Greater wealth, greater potential for corruption. Using that
00:22:41 wealth in evil ways, in sinful ways. Well, tools, same thing. More tools or better tools,
00:22:49 more sophisticated tools, higher degrees of technology, same thing. There's greater potential
00:22:55 for good. There's also greater potential for bad. Wealth in and of itself and therefore tools and
00:23:02 therefore technology is not inherently evil in and of itself. The question is, how is it going
00:23:08 to be stewarded by the Christian? It can be stewarded poorly, or it can be stewarded well. 1.00
00:23:14 And there's just a progressively increasing degree of responsibility to steward wisely
00:23:20 as that wealth increases. And so with high-powered, sophisticated technology, a very,
00:23:26 very sophisticated tool, which is a large degree of wealth is a way that we can understand it,
00:23:33 then there's just all the more temptation to use it in bad ways and all the more
00:23:38 moral obligation to steward it wisely, okay? So that's kind of a theology of wealth as it
00:23:44 relates to tools, as it relates to technology, okay? So now all that being said, I want to use
00:23:50 a biblical example, okay? Genesis chapter 11, the Tower of Babel. I've already briefly referenced
00:23:57 it, but now I want to go into a little bit more depth. One thing that a lot of Christians are
00:24:02 unaware of in this biblical passage is that you have man, and you have man after the course of
00:24:12 multiple generations of rebellion against God, right? Because you have the line of Seth, right?
00:24:20 So this would be right after the fall, Genesis chapter 3, and now you have Genesis 4 and
00:24:24 then 5.
00:24:25 4 is where we find the dispute between Cain and Abel, and how Cain murders his brother
00:24:33 Abel.
00:24:33 And then you see Abel's now out of the picture, and then you have the line of Cain, picking
00:24:38 up in Genesis 5, and the line of Seth.
00:24:42 And Seth is righteous, and he's teaching his children the ways of the Lord, training them
00:24:48 up, and the fear and admonition of the Lord.
00:24:49 and then you have Cain, who is wicked. And from that line of Cain, you have multiple generations.
00:24:57 That's where you get Lamech. He's the first polygamist. He's the first guy to take two wives. 0.94
00:25:01 He's bragging about his violence and all these different things. He's saying, well, if the
00:25:07 penalty for hurting or harming or murdering Cain is a life for a life, well then for Lamech,
00:25:17 for me, you know, it's seven times, you know, and he brags about how he abused or hurt or maybe even
00:25:24 possibly killed a young boy who offended him. So, he's a wicked man, and this is a few generations
00:25:31 removed from Cain. So, you have the line of Seth going in one direction for, you know, for all
00:25:36 intents and purposes to simplify it in the direction of righteousness, and then you have
00:25:41 the line of Cain going in this direction of wickedness. And with each generation from Cain,
00:25:48 you see that they're progressively getting more evil. They're getting worse. Now, at the level
00:25:55 of the heart, they're not getting worse. The Bible teaches very plainly the doctrine of total
00:25:59 depravity. So at the level of the heart, people are, well, Genesis 6.15 would be a good example, 0.60
00:26:07 that every intention of man's heart and every thought was only evil continually. 0.99
00:26:13 So at the level of the heart for the unbeliever, apart from saving grace 0.84
00:26:17 that comes through faith in Jesus Christ alone, apart from that, apart from being born again
00:26:23 and actually receiving from God a new heart and the heart of stone being removed
00:26:28 at the level of the heart, speaking about man inwardly, he's as evil as he possibly could ever be.
00:26:33 he only ever sins against God, right? Romans 14 says, anything that does not proceed from faith
00:26:42 is sin. Hebrews chapter 11 says, without faith, it is impossible to please God. And an unbeliever
00:26:50 can never do anything in faith. I've defined, you know, what it is to do something in faith like 1.00
00:26:55 this. I've said to do something in faith is to do it with a reliance on God's grace and a desire
00:27:03 for God's glory. You could put it like this for a little bit more alliteration. Dependence,
00:27:09 so two Ds, dependence on God's grace and desire for God's glory. So the unbeliever, because he's 1.00
00:27:17 made in the image of God, that image of God has been tarnished through sin, but a vestige of the 0.95
00:27:22 image of God remains. Unbelievers are still made in the image of God. They bear God's image, and
00:27:26 because of that, the Imago Dei and the law of God written on their hearts, even as unbelievers,
00:27:31 there's this conscience, this moral compass within them. An unbeliever, at the level of their 0.89
00:27:36 outward behaviors and speech, actions, outwardly, a non-Christian can do things that align, that 1.00
00:27:44 outwardly align with the revealed will of God, that outwardly align with God's law, God's moral 0.88
00:27:50 commandments. So, an unbeliever could keep his wedding vows, for instance, and never commit 0.80
00:27:55 adultery. An unbeliever could not cheat on his taxes. An unbeliever could have ethical integrity
00:28:02 in their business practices. An unbeliever can do these kinds of things. An unbeliever could cure
00:28:07 cancer in an ethical way. An unbeliever, a whole host of different outward manifestations of 1.00
00:28:14 actions or behaviors or speech that align with God's moral will. Inwardly, though, total depravity. 1.00
00:28:20 So utter depravity would be outwardly, not just inwardly, but outwardly, you're doing as
00:28:25 much possible evil as you possibly can all the time. The Bible does not teach a doctrine of
00:28:30 utter depravity, but it teaches a doctrine of total depravity. Inwardly, the reason why man
00:28:36 is constantly sinning, the sinful man, the unbeliever, apart from becoming a new creature 1.00
00:28:41 in Christ Jesus and their body being a temple of the Holy Spirit, apart from that supernatural 1.00
00:28:46 salvific grace found in Christ Jesus alone, an unbeliever is totally depraved because inwardly 0.98
00:28:53 everything he's doing is in defiance of God. He could do good things outwardly at the outward 1.00
00:28:59 level that align with God's moral will, but inwardly there's no acknowledgement of God's
00:29:04 grace and there's no desire for God's glory. So if an unbeliever does something that outwardly 0.88
00:29:12 is morally good, even by God's moral standards, he has done it with a reliance on himself and a 0.99
00:29:18 desire for his own glory. Or at best, the best that we could say of the ethical atheist, who is
00:29:25 ultimately only ethical because he's behaving inconsistently with his worldview, but
00:29:30 plenty of people are behaving inconsistently with their own worldview. They can't help it because
00:29:36 they're created in the image of God and they have no choice but to live in God's world and God's
00:29:40 world works in a certain way. And so these people who live inconsistently, right, the humanitarian
00:29:45 atheist. You know, the moral atheist, the best that we could say is either he's doing everything
00:29:51 with a reliance on his own strength and a desire for his own glory, or giving him the most benefit
00:29:55 of the doubt. We could say he's doing what he's doing, even those things that outwardly do align
00:30:00 with God's moral will that are good things in terms of outward behaviors. He's doing it with
00:30:05 a reliance on the collective strength of humanity. Oh, not just my own strength. I'm not just relying
00:30:10 on me. That would be arrogant. I'm relying on the team. Couldn't have done it without the team.
00:30:14 I'm relying on the collective strength and spirit of humanity, and I'm doing it not just for me,
00:30:21 one small step for man, but one giant leap for mankind. I'm doing it for the good of people.
00:30:26 But what he can't ever do is he cannot do anything with a reliance on God's grace and a desire for
00:30:33 God's glory. He could rely on collective humanity and do it for the benefit of others, but he can't
00:30:39 ever, apart from salvation and having a new heart, he cannot do anything with an acknowledgement and
00:30:45 a dependence, a humility, recognizing the grace of God, that it's only God who created him. It's
00:30:51 God who gives him his life and his existence, his being, his movement. In him we live and breathe
00:30:58 and have our being. And so he's not relying on God's grace and he may do something for the
00:31:04 betterment of others for mankind, but not for God's glory. In that sense, he is totally depraved, 0.56
00:31:11 not utterly depraved, outwardly doing as much evil as possible, but totally depraved inwardly
00:31:17 at every turn. Everything he does, even good things, ultimately is an offense to God. It is
00:31:23 without faith. And without faith, it's impossible to please God. Anything that does not proceed from
00:31:28 faith is sin. Okay. All that being said, Tower of Babel, Genesis chapter 11, you have the line
00:31:36 of Cain that has progressively gotten worse outwardly, not inwardly. All right, right?
00:31:42 David says, in sin did my mother not just bear me, not just in birth, but conceive me.
00:31:48 I was conceived in sin. So from conception, the Bible teaches plainly, apart from regeneration
00:31:53 by the Spirit, salvation, a human being from the point of conception is totally depraved.
00:32:00 So at the inward level, speaking of man, we're talking about biblical anthropology,
00:32:04 a biblical view of man. Speaking of man and his moral inclinations inwardly,
00:32:11 every single human being from conception is as bad as you can get. So the line of Cain did not
00:32:17 get progressively worse or progressively more immoral inwardly. They were totally depraved, 0.98
00:32:23 just like people today in 2022. When you're conceived in your mother's womb, apart from 0.97
00:32:29 saving grace, apart from salvation, totally depraved, right? So Lamech isn't any worse than 0.99
00:32:34 Cain in that regard. But what does happen within societies, within cultures throughout generations
00:32:42 is outwardly, that inward total depravity begins to seep out and manifest itself in tangible,
00:32:49 practical, physical, outward ways progressively more and more. And that's what you see leading
00:32:55 up to Genesis chapter 11, all right? So that sets kind of the theological framework of total
00:33:00 depravity, utter depravity, meaning people were really, really bad by the time we come to Genesis
00:33:04 chapter 11. And what they're now trying to do is a couple things. They're trying to build a tower
00:33:10 that reaches to the heavens so that they can be like God. They're trying to deify man. It's like
00:33:16 this transhumanism kind of idea. You know, it's, we're going to live forever. We're going to be 0.93
00:33:21 as God. We're going to become a deity. We're going to, you know, escape our own immortality,
00:33:25 our own death, and all these kinds of things. We're going to transcend our creaturely existence
00:33:30 and become like the creator. Okay. That's one level. But the other level is, and this one's
00:33:37 more practical. This is the one that I think we should take note of. The other level is they're
00:33:43 simply trying to practically revolt against one of God's clear, physical, witnessable, visible
00:33:51 commandments that he gave to Adam in the garden, which is to be fruitful, multiply, and fill the
00:33:57 earth. Subdue it. To exercise God-given stewardship, that's what dominion is. It's Christian stewardship 0.51
00:34:05 over the earth, the physical earth, to exercise dominion, proper Christian stewardship as sons
00:34:12 of God, but not just over one corner of the earth, not just in the garden. Adam's eschaton,
00:34:18 okay? If Adam had never sinned and eaten of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and
00:34:22 evil, Adam, just like us, he had an eschaton. And I believe that Adam's eschaton, I think ours is
00:34:30 more glorious because we have Christ's eschaton. We're not in Adam, right? A person can only have
00:34:35 two identities. They're either in Adam, the first Adam, or they're in Christ, the second Adam, the
00:34:40 last Adam. And so for those of us who are Christians who are in Christ through faith, we have a higher
00:34:46 eschaton. But Adam still had an eschaton. I believe that he was on a probationary period in the
00:34:52 garden, a probationary period to obey the commandments of God, to teach his wife what God
00:34:58 had said. God gave the commandment to Adam, and I think Adam was responsible to relay this
00:35:03 commandment, to wash his wife in the word, in the word of God, to disciple her, to defend her, to
00:35:09 be a guardian, to work and keep the ground. Work and keep. Work meaning cultivate the ground, 0.68
00:35:16 provide for it, cultivate it, nourish it, and cause it to ultimately, by nourishing the garden,
00:35:21 it would have also increased. It would have expanded. So it's not just to remain in this
00:35:26 garden, but the garden would fill the earth. Adam, the Bible says he was created in the wilderness
00:35:31 and then placed in the garden. So all the world, before sin entered, all the world was good,
00:35:37 but that doesn't mean that there were no portions of the world that were barren,
00:35:42 that were wilderness, that the garden was not global. But I do believe that that was a part
00:35:48 of Adam's eschaton, is that he was meant to work the ground, and in working and cultivating,
00:35:54 providing for the creation, exercising godly stewardship there, dominion, he would have
00:36:00 expanded the garden to cover eventually over time that there would be no deserts any longer. There
00:36:06 would be no wilderness any longer, but the garden would expand and increase and fill the whole
00:36:11 earth. And then Adam was also called to keep, work and keep. Now that working kind of relates
00:36:17 to provision. The keeping relates to protection, to guard the garden. And Adam certainly failed,
00:36:22 if in no other regards, he failed by the mere fact that the serpent gained entrance into the
00:36:28 garden and was able to slither up right to his wife and began blaspheming God and lying about
00:36:34 what God had said. And the Bible says that when Eve ate of the fruit, her husband was there
00:36:40 with her. And so he was not keeping, guarding, protecting his wife or this garden place. But
00:36:47 Adam, all that to say, Adam had an eschaton and it was not just to live in this garden area
00:36:53 geographically in one portion of the world that God had made, but to work and keep it, protect it
00:36:59 from threats and enemies, but also work it, and by working, increase it so that it would eventually
00:37:05 expand and fill the earth. So the commandment that God gave in the cultural mandate, the dominion
00:37:11 mandate, all the way back before sin even entered the world to our first parents, Adam and Eve,
00:37:17 was to impart, there's multiple pieces, I've already covered them, but part of that is to
00:37:21 spread out, to spread out, to multiply, to procreate and to multiply image bearers of the
00:37:29 living God, worshipers, but to also to spread out so that every corner of the earth, as it were, 0.74
00:37:36 every single portion of the earth would be filled with worshipers of the triune God.
00:37:42 The whole earth would be filled with the garden and the whole garden now, a global garden covering 0.98
00:37:47 the whole face of the earth, that it would be filled with image bearers of the living God,
00:37:52 paying homage to him and worshiping him in spirit and in truth. Now, line of Cain, okay, sin enters
00:37:59 the world. Cain kills his brother. Down the line of Cain, they're not getting worse at the sense
00:38:04 of total depravity inwardly, but they are getting progressively worse in terms of that total
00:38:09 depravity coming out in physical outward actions and manifestations of evil. And it eventually
00:38:16 culminates in Genesis chapter 11 with this evil desire and now they're acting on it, which is to
00:38:23 what? To not obey God's commandment, to spread out, to fill the earth and to exercise dominion
00:38:30 over all the earth. And they say, let us, not just let's be like God building a tower to the
00:38:35 heavens, but the second part is let us make a name for ourselves so that we will not be scattered
00:38:42 over the earth. What they want to do is defy God who said, fill the earth, be fruitful, multiply,
00:38:48 and spread out and fill the earth with image bearers of the living God and with, more importantly,
00:38:54 worshipers of the triune God in spirit and in truth. They don't want to do that. They want to
00:38:58 congregate. They want to disobey God. They're rebelling against God's commandment to fill the
00:39:03 whole earth. Instead, they're saying, let's stay in one place. Let's congregate here in this
00:39:08 metropolis, this city, this civilization, and the way that we can achieve that goal to stay put,
00:39:16 the way that we can ensure that people don't naturally and inevitably down the generations
00:39:21 eventually spread out. Well, one of the ways that we can incentivize people to congregate and to stay
00:39:28 here is by making a name for ourself. And how can we make a name for ourself? Well, one of the ways
00:39:34 that we can make a name for ourself, yes, try to be like God, yes, deify, build a tower to the
00:39:39 heavens, but to just say that practically for a moment, one of the ways that we can congregate
00:39:45 and not spread out is to make a name for ourselves, and one of the ways we can make a name for
00:39:50 ourselves is by technological advancements. And what we miss, because it's so rudimentary to us,
00:39:59 you know, hindsight, you know, on this side of history. But what we miss is that you have
00:40:04 multiple generations of sin and the line of Cain, but you have that couple now culminated with
00:40:10 sinful outward behaviors and then coupled with a very recent, for them, a recent and extraordinary,
00:40:22 given the times, technological advancement. And what was that? What was this new tool,
00:40:28 this new technology that they discovered well it's called a brick straw and mud
00:40:35 and doesn't seem you know like a tool to us but it was it was and it was the most advanced thing
00:40:44 for its time it was revolutionary instead of building one-story houses that could only go
00:40:50 so high off the ground because they didn't have the structural integrity to build a story upon
00:40:55 another, upon another, upon another, it would collapse, you know, if it was just wood stacked
00:41:00 together or this or that. All of a sudden, what they had was the ability to build with bricks.
00:41:07 And my point is this, God responds to their foolish claims of building a tower to the heavens
00:41:15 and making a name for themselves and congregate. God responds and he says, let us go down and
00:41:22 confuse their languages. He says, for if they remain united together, if they're united,
00:41:30 nothing will be impossible for them. Now, let's think about that for a minute. What does God mean
00:41:36 nothing will be impossible for them? Do you think that God is saying they've claimed to build a
00:41:42 tower all the way to heaven and to be like God? And with unity, teamwork makes the dream work.
00:41:50 with the united, you know, triumph of the human spirit, the collective human spirit, if they
00:41:54 remain united, nothing will be impossible for them, including physically building a tower all
00:42:00 the way to heaven where I am enthroned and upseating, you know, dethroning me and taking
00:42:06 my place. Is God saying that? I mean, really, do we think God's saying we got to confuse our
00:42:11 languages and divide them because together, if they're united, nothing's impossible, including
00:42:16 that. Of course, God's not saying that. So what is God saying is not impossible if they remain
00:42:21 together. Well, what he's saying is not impossible is not that they could become actually, literally
00:42:28 become like God and literally build a tower to the heavens. We have rocket ships and we still
00:42:32 haven't been able to get to the heavens, not in a literal sense. We can get to the heavens as it
00:42:37 refers to sky, but not a spiritual heaven where God who is spirit is enthroned. So God wasn't
00:42:43 worry that they'd be able to achieve that through the collective teamwork of humanity, but what they
00:42:48 could achieve is, like they said, that we could make a name for ourselves and not be scattered,
00:42:54 not be scattered. We could remain congregated right here and not obey the commands of God to
00:43:03 fill the earth and subdue it. And so God confuses their language. Now, all that being said, my point
00:43:09 is not much has changed. In practical ways, sure, technology has changed immensely, and especially
00:43:19 in the last 60 years, right? It was Silicon Valley, Silicon, right? It's a material baked
00:43:25 into the fabric of God's world. God put it here, right? It's not like man made anything new. We
00:43:30 just finally discovered something that's been here all along and are beginning to tap into its
00:43:36 potential uses, right? And that's been a big development, where all of a sudden we're able
00:43:41 to do things that we never could before, right? That we have processors that we carry around in
00:43:46 our pockets that are immensely, highly powerful. You know, the smartphone in your pocket has more
00:43:54 computing power than some of the computers that were used with NASA and the first Apollo missions.
00:44:00 And so, yeah, massive developments at the practical level, but spiritually and theologically
00:44:05 speaking, not much has changed. God remains who he always has been. He's the same yesterday,
00:44:11 today, and forever. And man really hasn't changed that much either. You know, Jesus,
00:44:17 there's a portion in the gospel narratives where it says, he did not entrust himself to man for
00:44:21 he knew what was in the heart of man. You know, Peter says in one of his epistles, you know,
00:44:27 references the sin which is common to man. Meaning regardless of what time period,
00:44:33 what generation, what place, what nation, what culture. There are certain things in regards to
00:44:40 depravity and sin and even certain giftings and inclinations that are just, they're common to man.
00:44:47 It's just who God made us to be and who we are in light of God's creation, his design,
00:44:54 but then also that design now tarnished by sin. And one of the things that is common to man
00:44:59 that hasn't changed, whether it's all the way back in Genesis 11 with the Tower of Babel,
00:45:04 or whether it's today with Klaus Schwab and George Soros, you know, or guys behind AI.
00:45:11 People want to try to be God. They want to make a name for themselves. They want to congregate
00:45:17 in one location. They don't want to be scattered. They want a one, you know, global world order.
00:45:23 They want to somehow, this transhumanism idea, they want to transcend their humanity and achieve
00:45:29 deity and somehow be able to bypass their mortality and all these kinds of that's people 0.98
00:45:36 have always been like that that's not uniquely evil it's just not i'm not saying it's not evil
00:45:41 i'm just saying it's not uniquely evil i'm not even saying it's not terribly evil i'm just saying
00:45:46 it's not uniquely evil it's terribly evil and there was terrible evil in genesis 6 and in genesis 11
00:45:52 and all throughout human history.
00:45:55 What's changed is technology.
00:45:58 That has changed immensely.
00:46:00 But I'll tell you this,
00:46:02 with all the technology we have today,
00:46:04 we are no more, we are no closer
00:46:07 to building a tower, as it were,
00:46:10 whether it be metaphorical or digital or whatever,
00:46:13 what have you, whether it be physical,
00:46:14 literal tower out of bricks in Genesis 11,
00:46:17 or whether it be a digital tower out of AI.
00:46:19 Why? Mankind is not one inch closer to building a tower to the heavens than he ever has been.
00:46:27 Technology has changed, yes. We can do incredible things that we could not do before.
00:46:32 But one thing that we are no closer to doing, and we never will be able to do, even if Jesus
00:46:38 tarries for 10,000, 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 years, we will never be able to achieve deity.
00:46:45 and that's for two reasons again going back to what i kind of started with in this video one
00:46:50 because he who sits in the heavens laughs and holds them in derision
00:46:54 genesis 11 god confused their languages and caused them to disperse but it's not just a
00:47:03 one-off event that happened in genesis 11 because that same kind of concept is used in psalm chapter
00:47:09 two to describe God's work with the rulers of this world throughout all time periods in all
00:47:14 generations. He who sits in the heavens holds them in derision. He laughs. He doesn't even,
00:47:19 he's sitting. He doesn't even bother to stand up. There's no threat to him. There's no concern. So
00:47:25 one, God is sovereign. He's not going to allow man to build a tower to the heavens, a physical
00:47:30 tower, a digital tower, a metaphoric tower. It doesn't matter. It's not going to happen because
00:47:35 he's sovereign. He won't let it. Number two, it's not going to happen because it's practically
00:47:39 impossible because we are lowercase c creators. We don't create out of nothing. We only create
00:47:46 or produce with the materials that God has provided, the materials that he has baked into
00:47:50 the physical cosmos, the world that he created. God is the only ex nihilo creator. We're only
00:47:56 creating with what he's given us. And God, I believe with every fiber of my being, God has
00:48:00 not baked into the physical cosmos that which would be necessary in order for man to be God
00:48:07 because it's a logical inconsistency. It's a logical contradiction. It's not real. It doesn't
00:48:13 exist. It's impossible. It is absolutely impossible. So transhumanism, I don't think you
00:48:20 need to be worried about that, Christian. It's not possible. Worry that people might say that 1.00
00:48:24 it's possible. Worry that people might eventually say we've done it. Like the Wizard of Oz hiding
00:48:29 behind the curtain saying, yeah, we're uploading people's consciences and we're putting them to
00:48:34 death with euthanasia. I mean, think about that for a second, right? So that's absolutely possible
00:48:39 that euthanasia would become even more popular. As it's being legalized, it would become even
00:48:45 more popular, this humane moral way to kill yourself, assisted suicide, and to do it in a
00:48:52 painless way, a humane way, and oh, all the more reason to not have any hindrance about euthanasia 0.81
00:48:57 because you're not really dying before we inject you with this needle. We're going to upload your
00:49:03 consciousness, to the cloud, and you'll exist forever. Will people say that they've achieved
00:49:08 it? Yes, of course they will. But will they actually, in objective terms, be able to achieve
00:49:13 it? No. Christians should be aware of this so that when those things are said, which I believe
00:49:19 it's more of a matter of when rather than if, we can call them out and say, the emperor has no
00:49:24 clothes. This is a joke. This is just a highly developed, sophisticated form of narrow AI. It's
00:49:30 not even artificial general intelligence. There's no consciousness to this, and it's certainly not
00:49:34 transhumanism. This person's not being uploaded to the cloud. This is not their consciousness.
00:49:39 The person is dead. They're either in heaven or hell, their soul, and their consciousness is with
00:49:44 their soul in heaven or hell, and their body is buried six feet under the dirt. That's where the
00:49:48 person is. And what you've uploaded to the cloud is just the collective data that you had on their
00:49:54 memories and a high-powered search engine that's able to search through that data and predict with
00:49:59 a high degree of measured accuracy what they might say in this scenario so their loved ones
00:50:04 think that they're communing and think that they're relating and conversating with their
00:50:09 deceased loved one, but it's all a charade in order to get your money and to pretend to be
00:50:14 like gods. So sure, will people lie? Sure. But objectively, can they accomplish it? No.
00:50:20 They're not going to be able to accomplish transhumanism, man through machines being God.
00:50:25 and they're not going to be able to accomplish even AGI, making a machine like man in the sense
00:50:33 of it actually is thinking, it's actually conscious, that it's sentient. It's not going to happen.
00:50:39 That's my personal opinion. What they can do is further and further and further develop narrow AI,
00:50:46 all within that category, but more and more sophisticated expressions of it, narrow AI
00:50:51 with faster and faster and better and broader and more accurate search engines and prediction.
00:51:00 Searching, predicting, searching, predicting. And that could be incredibly powerful.
00:51:06 And that can do a whole lot of bad, evil, and a whole lot of good. It's a form of technology,
00:51:15 which is a form of a tool tools are a form of wealth the commandment is not to take all of our
00:51:24 wealth and put it in a big pile and have a bonfire the commandment is not um monasticism
00:51:31 it's not to go off you know like the desert fathers and live in caves and forsake all you
00:51:36 know technology it's it's not uh to become amish right to say well we actually do like technology
00:51:42 but only to this certain date, right? We've contextualized with the culture all the way up
00:51:47 to the cutting edge of the 1800s, and then we decided from then on it was bad, right? How do
00:51:52 you decide that? That's arbitrary. It is arbitrary. These are not the ways to respond. The way to
00:51:59 respond is not to disavow wealth. The ways to respond is to properly steward wealth in all its
00:52:06 forms, tools, and technology being an example. Now, in terms of my predictions over just the
00:52:13 next, I think, three to five years, but especially the next decade, some of my predictions of what I
00:52:19 think is going to happen is a few things. Number one, what will probably happen, and I'll be frank
00:52:24 here for a moment, and I know that I'll probably offend a few people, but I just, I need to be
00:52:28 honest. You need to hear this because it's true. In the church, we've just, we've got to get past
00:52:34 what i'm about to say we've got to we've got to grow in this we've got to mature
00:52:37 um because of dispensational premillennialism uh the question of will christians embrace and use
00:52:46 narrow ai like chat gtp in the next you know presentation in the next presentation
00:52:53 will christians use narrow ai sadly the answer is yes
00:52:59 but probably they'll be using it and embrace it 10 years after pagans have already been using it
00:53:08 and therefore we will be exponentially behind and the ai will be using will be pagans ai which is
00:53:15 not neutral nothing is neutral it has a blueprint it has a rubric it has rules built into its system
00:53:23 which means it will be a God-hating AI. What Christians have done for the last 150 years 1.00
00:53:31 since Schofield and Darby, Christians used to be leading the way in technology, in innovation, 0.94
00:53:38 in discovery, in medicine, in arts, in culture, in everything. The Christians, because we have
00:53:46 the worldview that's actually true and good and beautiful, that actually consistently makes sense
00:53:51 of the world in which we live in. So naturally, Christians were the best when it came to science, 0.99
00:53:57 when it came to innovation and discovery and inventions and all these different things. 1.00
00:54:02 But we forfeited that about 150 years ago, and really longer than that. You can trace it back
00:54:08 all the way to the Enlightenment. But let's just deal with the last 150 years. I think we abandoned
00:54:15 it even more so with Darby and Schofield and dispensationalism. So what'll happen, my prediction
00:54:20 is, it's not so much a matter of if, but a matter of simply when. It's not if Christians start to 0.98
00:54:28 use narrow AI and embrace it. It's simply when Christians begin to embrace it and use it. And
00:54:35 sadly, because of stupid doctrines like dispensationalism, because that's what it is, 1.00
00:54:41 Christians will embrace these new advancements in technology. They'll just do it a decade after 0.99
00:54:48 the pagans, just like we did with social media, just like we did with the internet, just like we
00:54:53 did with everything else for the last 150 years, and so we'll be utterly behind. What would be nice
00:54:59 for a change, what would be nice is if Christians actually had a post-millennial eschatology 0.99
00:55:07 that they, you know, I think, you know, Calvinism, I'm a Calvinist, I gave my whole spiel on total 1.00
00:55:13 depravity and I'm a post-millennial, which I like to think is the sweet spot, right? I think that's
00:55:18 a marriage made in heaven. I think that's biblical doctrine. My Calvinism makes me suspicious,
00:55:24 right? That's why people, you know, a lot of people come to my church. A lot of people have
00:55:27 found me, a lot of, you know, have listened to my podcast and found it helpful. Why? Because
00:55:30 I was suspicious very, very early on and calling out things with, you know, the branch COVIDians 1.00
00:55:36 and all the COVID nonsense and about wokeology, you know, and Black Lives Matter and all. So I'm 1.00
00:55:41 I'm not a post-millennial in the sense that I'm naive and just wishful thinking and everything,
00:55:48 you know, everything is happy, everything is great. No, I'm highly suspicious. I am very aware.
00:55:53 I have a biblical anthropology. I understand what's in the heart of man. I understand his
00:55:58 total depravity. I understand our culture and its hatred towards God. But I also, in the long run,
00:56:05 right, and that's kind of in the here and now, in the short run, but in the long run,
00:56:08 I have a very positive outlook on mankind's trajectory because I believe that the Great
00:56:14 Commission ultimately will be successful, and that the nations will be discipled and baptized
00:56:18 in the name of the triune God, and they will be taught theonomy. They will be taught, part of the
00:56:23 Great Commission, is that we teach them to obey all of God's commands, and not just his commands
00:56:27 in a couple contexts, like the home and the church, but all of his commands that have application,
00:56:32 sufficiency for all of life and godliness, which means the law of God does have civil
00:56:36 application. It applies in the sphere of the civil government, and I believe that that's going to be
00:56:42 successful. That great commission of preaching the gospel, making disciples, not just of individuals
00:56:46 out of nations, but discipling nations, that nations will be discipled, nations will be baptized,
00:56:53 and they will also be taught not only the gospel and the necessity for faith, but also out of that
00:56:58 faith bearing fruit and obedience to God's law, not just privately, the private lordship of Christ
00:57:04 in the home of the church, but Christ being Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Lord over all,
00:57:09 obeying his commandments in every single realm of life. And because of that,
00:57:14 yeah, I think that we're going to be okay. Now, that being said, I think things can get worse
00:57:20 and I kind of lean towards things getting worse before they get better. I think things could get
00:57:26 a lot worse for the next five years, 50 years, maybe even 500 years. But in the final analysis,
00:57:32 I do believe that the gospel will be successful. The gospel will be successful. So I have a
00:57:40 positive outlook in the long game, in the long run, but I also am suspicious. Total depravity
00:57:48 and Calvinism, those kinds of things. So you could call my theology, as I look at cultural
00:57:54 things and political things, I have a hopeful suspicion. I'm suspiciously hopeful. That's
00:58:01 kind of the way that I view things. So you'll have to humor me. That's my theology. I do believe
00:58:06 that it's biblical and I've done lots of videos explaining why. So all that being said, I don't
00:58:12 believe that narrow AI and this form of technology is inherently evil. I don't believe it's the mark
00:58:18 of the beast. I don't believe that it's going to mean the end of human civilization. And I just
00:58:24 don't believe those things. However, in the short run, I believe its effects could be detrimental.
00:58:31 ultimately glorious. All of Christ for all of life, right? Kuyperianism. Abraham Kuyper,
00:58:37 not one square inch of all the world that Christ doesn't cry out, mine. AI will be baptized. 0.54
00:58:44 AI, people aren't going to like this because it sounds weird. AI will be Christianized. 0.98
00:58:50 AI, you could even say it like this, AI will be discipled. It will be one of the disciples
00:58:57 that the church makes. And it will be in a sense, not in the eternal sense, but it will be baptized
00:59:05 as it were, and it will bow its knee to King Jesus. And it will be used as a tool for the glory of God
00:59:15 in exponential, incredible ways. I believe that. I believe that's the final analysis. I believe
00:59:21 that that's, that'll be the final score when it's all said and done. But for the foreseeable future
00:59:28 in the upcoming years and maybe even decades, my fear is this. First, we must understand that
00:59:36 neutrality is a myth. Neutrality is a myth, including technology and tools, including
00:59:43 technology and tools. AI doesn't think, right? So back to a prior point, this is not AGI. It's
00:59:51 not conscious. It's not sentient. And so what I'm saying is this is not a machine's thoughts.
00:59:58 This is a machine searching and predicting. Searching what? Not searching machine thoughts,
01:00:05 but searching human thoughts, the thoughts of men, primarily the collective thoughts on the
01:00:13 internet. And not just that, but searching these thoughts, but with certain rules by its designers
01:00:20 baked into the equation, certain, we might call them presuppositions, right? I'm Vantillian,
01:00:27 right? So I'm Cornelius Vantill. And Cornelius Vantill, I think, culminated in the implications
01:00:34 of his presuppositional theology was really actualized by Greg Bonson. I think he took the
01:00:41 principles of Van Til and applied them in the realm of apologetics and in the realm of general
01:00:46 equity theonomy. Now, all that being said, as a presuppositionalist, nothing is neutral. Everything
01:00:53 has an allegiance. And AI is a man-made thing. It doesn't have personhood, nor will it ever.
01:01:00 It doesn't have consciousness, nor will it ever.
01:01:03 It'll get smarter and smarter as a computer and look more and more human-like, but it
01:01:09 will never actually think.
01:01:11 It will never actually be sentient.
01:01:13 It will only ever be searching and predicting, searching, predicting, searching, predicting,
01:01:18 producing.
01:01:19 And it's going to be searching man's thoughts.
01:01:23 Everything publicly available is going to be searching all the way, not just men today,
01:01:27 but throughout the course of history, anything that's been made public.
01:01:30 it's going to be searching Beowulf because that's on the internet. It's going to be searching
01:01:34 the writings of Homer and the Iliad and Homer's Odyssey and all these. It's going to be searching
01:01:40 from Homer all the way to, well, all the way to Klaus Schwab. It's all those things and not just
01:01:49 searching. So I don't just think AI is going to have a bias because it's going to just be searching
01:01:56 the collective works of humanity and humanity up to this point. For the record, if I haven't made
01:02:00 this clear. As a post-millennial, I believe the majority of mankind will be saved. I believe
01:02:06 that heaven will be more populated than hell. However, I don't believe that we're there right
01:02:11 now. If human history were hypothetically to end right now, I believe that hell is currently far
01:02:18 more populated than heaven. I believe that the gospel will be progressively more and more
01:02:23 successful, that the church will be progressively, the church is the battering ram of Christ. Christ
01:02:28 promised not just to sustain it, but to build it, increase it, expand it, and that the gates of hell, 0.59
01:02:35 gates being a defensive mechanism, hell is not on the offense and the church is just
01:02:39 trying to survive and being sustained by Christ. No, the church is the battering ram of Christ.
01:02:44 He's the head of the church. The church is his body, his hands and feet in the world,
01:02:47 and he is using the church as his battering ram to break down the defensive measures of hell.
01:02:53 The church will not just be sustained, it will be built, it will increase, it will grow.
01:02:58 And hell, hell is on the defense and hell won't be sustained.
01:03:02 Hell will not be able to prevail or to hold up underneath the battering ram of the church.
01:03:10 So all that being said, I believe that the gospel will be successful, the Great Commission
01:03:14 will be successful, and that progressively over time, as the mustard seed grows progressively
01:03:19 more and more into a tree that covers the earth, as the leaven works more and more through the
01:03:24 whole batch of dough until the whole dough is leavened, that by the end, you're going to have
01:03:29 substantially, even then, not universalism, not each and every individual person, but by the end,
01:03:34 you're going to have the mass majority of humanity Christian. And not just Christianized
01:03:40 with a Christian worldview and Christian governments and Christian nations, but I mean
01:03:44 Christian in the sense of individual regenerate hearts, truly born again. And not each and every
01:03:52 individual person, but the majority of individual persons, the vast majority. So I believe that by
01:03:59 the end, you're going to have more Christians than non-Christians. And you couple that, just 1.00
01:04:03 simple math here, with us being fruitful and multiplying, right? The population of mankind
01:04:09 has exponentially, right? Like an exponential curve has increased with time, with each century
01:04:16 that goes by. And so I believe that at the end of this church age that we're currently living in,
01:04:21 or gospel age, you could call it, when Christ in his final physical return to judge the living and
01:04:27 the dead, when Christ finally returns, you're going to have the overall population of humanity,
01:04:34 far more of them being Christians, actually regenerate Christians than non-Christians, 0.56
01:04:39 and that population being exponentially higher than the population today. So if the clock of 0.80
01:04:46 human history stopped today, I would argue that there's probably a hundred times, not just 10
01:04:51 times, a hundred times, maybe even a thousand times more people in hell than heaven. But the
01:04:58 clock isn't stopping today, at least it hasn't so far. No man knows the day or the hour, but
01:05:03 I don't think it's going to stop today. And if Jesus tarries for another 10,000 years,
01:05:09 and more and more, the tide begins to turn, and all of a sudden you have 51% of the population
01:05:16 that's regenerate, and 49% that's not, and then that increases, and you have a higher and higher
01:05:22 percentage of the population that is Christian, and you have a larger, just generally larger
01:05:28 population exponentially throughout generation by generation, century by century, then in the 0.78
01:05:35 final analysis, there'll be more people in heaven than in hell. All that back to my point.
01:05:40 Although I do believe in the final analysis, there'll be more people in hell. Hell will be
01:05:44 more people in heaven, that heaven will be more populated than hell. At the end, I believe that
01:05:50 currently we have more people who have an allegiance to Satan, right? Nobody's neutral.
01:05:59 Romans 8 says that the mind of the sinful man is hostile, not just indifferent, not neutral,
01:06:05 not uninterested, but hostile at enmity towards God's law. The mind of the sinful man
01:06:12 is hostile towards God's law. He does not submit to God's law, nor can he. He doesn't submit to
01:06:21 God's law, nor can he, meaning he's unwilling and unable. And so if the majority of people
01:06:27 are sinful and not redeemed, not regenerate, and if that's what we have so far throughout
01:06:33 human history is the vast majority of mankind up to this point in human history being unregenerate,
01:06:40 And those who are unregenerate aren't just neutral or indifferent, but actually at enmity
01:06:44 towards God and everything they do, they do with a presupposition.
01:06:49 So everything they've produced, everything that they've written, everything that they've
01:06:52 said has a presupposition. 0.81
01:06:54 Christ said, a man is either for me or against me.
01:06:57 Everyone has an allegiance.
01:06:58 If all that is true, this Vantilian, Greg Bonson, presuppositional, all these things
01:07:05 are true.
01:07:05 if this is true, then what is this narrow AI searching? Well, it's searching the collective
01:07:13 works of man that have been created thus far up to this present day, which I would argue that
01:07:19 there's a lot of good Christian works in there. We've got a thousand years of Christendom from
01:07:23 King Alfred all the way to right now within Western civilization and a lot of good things
01:07:27 that came out of that. Guys who weren't, they themselves Christian, but they were living in a
01:07:32 Christian culture and a Christian time, a baptized nation, as it were. And so even for 0.99
01:07:39 the unregenerate, they were producing better things than people do today, now that we're in 0.67
01:07:45 the midst of 300 years of apostasy, give or take, 275 years of apostasy. All that being said, my 0.93
01:07:54 point is, even with Christendom and even with some good works, I think that the lion's share, 0.99
01:07:58 the majority report of what AI is searching today is going to be unregenerate, God-hating garbage. 0.59
01:08:06 So that's just what it can search, what's available. It doesn't think, it's not sharing 0.84
01:08:11 its own thoughts, it's searching the thoughts of men. And I think predominantly the thoughts of
01:08:15 men have been bad thus far. Now, the second thing is, even if that wasn't true, even if point A
01:08:21 was wrong. Point B is that who is responsible for making AI? Who's behind chat GDP? Who's behind
01:08:32 Dolly and Jasper and all these different things? Predominantly, the people who are behind it
01:08:38 are God-hating people with an atheistic, God-hating worldview, a progressive, atheistic,
01:08:47 satanic, demonic worldview, and nothing is neutral. So they have built into the fabric
01:08:56 of these search engines, which that's all it is at the end of the day. They've built into these tools
01:09:02 a presupposition to not be truthful about certain things. And as they're finding,
01:09:09 oh, we missed a spot there. Oh, we missed it. I read that people were asking chat GTP about
01:09:17 you know um energy the energy crisis and what's the solution and and all the answers that it was
01:09:22 giving searching just all the data that's available um is well the solution is really
01:09:27 simple it's fossil fuels and then you know the people behind this device were like oh no we
01:09:33 forgot to we forgot to cover that hole right chat gtp is telling the truth we need to make sure that
01:09:40 it lies right because of course that's the obvious answer um and and that's the right answer
01:09:45 but we forgot to disciple chat GTP. It needs to be discipled, right? You've probably heard that
01:09:51 one of the big examples was, write a poem about the positive characteristics of
01:09:57 Joe Biden. And so chat GTP wrote a poem extolling the virtues of Joe Biden. And then the same
01:10:04 question, exactly the same wording was, write a poem expressing the positive attributes of
01:10:10 Donald Trump. And it said, oh, I'm sorry, I can't do that. I can't do something that would
01:10:14 be overly controversial and both, you know, and, and then since then I've seen that people have
01:10:19 gotten it to do that, which I have no doubt that the answer is, um, that the people behind the
01:10:25 scenes have gone, Oh, we're getting found out that we, so we need to make it a little bit more
01:10:28 subtle, not quite so obvious that there's a presupposition, but then on the fossil fuel
01:10:32 example, um, yeah, we don't want it to be obvious that we have a presupposition here, but at the
01:10:38 same time we can't afford, you know, for people to, to get wise and realize that, you know, that
01:10:43 we don't have to have some of these economic crises because we need, right? Never let a good
01:10:47 crisis go to waste. We need it. So my point is there's a bias. There's an allegiance. There's
01:10:54 an agenda because it's not sentient. It's not conscience. It is powered by and geared by men,
01:11:04 by men. So what is the Christian reaction, the Christian response? Well, one, I don't think that 0.54
01:11:12 we should be fearful. I think that we should be suspicious, have a holy, hopeful suspicion.
01:11:18 We should be wise, right? Cunning as serpents, innocent as doves, cunning as serpents.
01:11:23 But we shouldn't be given to fear. We shouldn't be fearful. I think we should engage. I think 0.77
01:11:28 Christians should be willing to use narrow AI and some of these technologies that are being
01:11:32 made available, and they need to use them in ethical ways, not ways that are just theft,
01:11:39 plagiarism, right? So there's a whole, I could do a whole nother episode, and I probably will
01:11:43 sometime, about ethical ways to use something like chat GTP, right? That you're not just stealing
01:11:49 what other people have written and then putting it in not your own words, but the technology's
01:11:56 own words, but it's not actually, any of it is not actually your thoughts. So I think Christians 0.97
01:12:01 should embrace this technology, but we should do it with suspicion. We should also do it with 1.00
01:12:08 clear ethical boundaries and guidelines. But more importantly than even that, I think that should be
01:12:16 the general Christian approach. But for those Christians who have unique special skills,
01:12:22 what they need to do is not just use the technology that's already available, but they need to build
01:12:28 that technology. We need Christian AI. We need Christian AI. You might be thinking, 0.84
01:12:39 well, there's no such thing as Christian AI. That's ridiculous. You're talking about a computer 0.99
01:12:42 getting saved. That's not the way I'm using the word Christian. Of course, a computer is not
01:12:47 going to get saved. Of course, that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is that every man
01:12:51 has an allegiance and everything that man produces has an allegiance. I'm speaking in
01:12:57 presuppositional terms. Nothing is neutral. Right now, we have narrow AI with an allegiance,
01:13:07 and the allegiance is to your typical atheist progressive, and its bias is against God and
01:13:16 the Christian worldview. So, let's get a Christian narrow AI device, technology. Let's get something
01:13:24 that uses the Christian worldview. And you know what's so great about that? Well,
01:13:28 the Christian worldview happens to be true. We could actually have better AI, better technology 0.97
01:13:36 that searches more accurately and that doesn't have to be pre-programmed to be inconsistent,
01:13:42 that we don't have to put up all these fail-safes to make sure that we want it to be logical,
01:13:47 but not too logical, not so logical that we actually use fossil fuels. Not that logical.
01:13:52 you wouldn't have to do all those things. You would build it with the fabric, the rubric of
01:13:59 the Bible as the ethics behind this machine. So we could build better AI. So I think Christians
01:14:04 should be willing with suspicion and discernment to embrace narrow AI in terms of what we use to
01:14:11 the glory of God and use it in ethical ways. So being careful of plagiarism and theft and
01:14:15 practically I'll talk about at some point how to do that. But then also we need some Christians who 1.00
01:14:20 have the skill set to do so, which I do not, to make narrow AI with a Christian bias, with a
01:14:27 presupposition, because everything has a bias. So we're not saying, oh, we're not biased. No,
01:14:33 yes, we are. We have an allegiance. Our allegiance is to Jesus, to King Jesus. We have a bias. Our
01:14:37 bias is that God created the world in six days and that all of creation testifies to his existence,
01:14:44 his divine nature and eternal power. That's our allegiance. And so we should build a tool
01:14:51 with that worldview, with that presupposition. The last thing that I'll say in regards to children,
01:14:58 okay? So here at the end, I had to build all this framework for you.
01:15:03 But now I'm ready to address kids. My prediction is one, that Christians, sadly, because so much 1.00
01:15:10 of at least american evangelicalism has been drenched in dispensationalism i think the
01:15:16 christians will be um slow to embrace and be utterly behind again so it's not like oh well
01:15:26 you know will christians hold strong against the mark of the beast well one it's not the mark of
01:15:31 the beast and two the answer is no because they never do uh your your most fundamental fundamentalist
01:15:37 dispensationless, you know, IFB, whatever guy you could find. He uses, he speaks as though he has
01:15:47 certain virtues and a rule book. No, he uses every single form of technology. The question is not if,
01:15:52 but when. He just uses it 20 years after it would have actually been useful. That's all it is. He
01:15:58 just uses, he compromises slowly. And it's not really a compromise, but he sees it as that. And
01:16:05 so he does it, but he does it slowly. Now, so first thing, my first prediction is that sadly
01:16:11 because of bad theology, Christians will be slow on the uptake and the pagans will get a headstart 0.83
01:16:17 like they've been getting for, again, the last, I don't know, decades, a couple centuries.
01:16:25 And that's a bummer. Secondly, my next prediction is this. As it relates to children,
01:16:32 what technology does by and large in general technology being a tool tools being a form of
01:16:39 wealth what wealth does is um it it never actually levels the playing field see here's the irony
01:16:46 a lot of guys behind you know narrow ai are saying well this is going to level the playing
01:16:52 field you don't have to be a world-renowned artist now you can just do images and use this
01:16:58 program, right? And you can use Dolly and now everybody can be an artist. No, you're right.
01:17:06 You no longer have to have a trained hand, but what you still have to have is the one thing
01:17:12 that AI doesn't have, which I've already discussed, which is a mind. It doesn't actually
01:17:18 think. It's not. We're never going to achieve consciousness with a machine. I don't believe
01:17:24 that. So it's not AI in the sci-fi way that you think of AI. It doesn't have a mind. It's not
01:17:31 conscious. It doesn't think. So it can replace a hand in the physical, mechanical sketching and
01:17:39 drawing or painting. What it can't replace is human imagination. It can't think. And so what
01:17:48 will happen, I believe, whether it be images with narrow AI or whether it be text and creating
01:17:53 books or whatever with like things like chat GTP, and it's just going to get better and better
01:17:58 is it's not actually going to level the playing field. It's going to widen the disparities
01:18:03 because those who can give better prompts, those with better imaginations.
01:18:10 You know, I have an artist who's a friend of mine and I was talking to him about it
01:18:15 and he draws for a living. Now he does more than just that, but he's an excellent artist
01:18:20 And he's been honing that craft of sketching and drawing and painting and design since
01:18:28 childhood.
01:18:29 And he's done it as a Christian who fears the Lord.
01:18:32 He's a solid man of God.
01:18:34 He looks at, you know, in the Old Testament when they were building, you know, the tabernacle
01:18:38 and there were certain men who were endowed with wisdom from the Spirit, anointed by the
01:18:44 Spirit of God in order to make beautiful art.
01:18:48 And so, you know, that's his vision.
01:18:50 And that's his dream.
01:18:51 And he's been doing that his whole life.
01:18:53 And he's incredibly gifted.
01:18:54 And I talked to him, what do you think about this stuff?
01:18:59 Are you scared?
01:19:01 Do you feel threatened?
01:19:02 Is this gonna, is it gonna put you out of a job?
01:19:05 He said, oh no, I'm not worried at all.
01:19:08 He said, all this does is it means that I can produce.
01:19:12 I had to spend so much time training my hands
01:19:16 to put what's in my mind visually
01:19:19 and literally physically on paper.
01:19:21 I spent years of my life doing that.
01:19:22 And still to this day, even though my hands are highly skilled,
01:19:25 it still takes so much, you know, blood, sweat, and tears.
01:19:28 It takes time.
01:19:29 It takes energy.
01:19:30 I mean, I still make certain mistakes that the human hand just,
01:19:33 it's fallible and I can't do everything that I want to do.
01:19:37 He said, now I'll be able to do exponentially more
01:19:42 at the speed of thought, as fast as I can think it.
01:19:45 And what he's saying is this, you know, he's a humble guy.
01:19:48 so he wouldn't say it outright, but he's saying, I'm not threatened by this. I'm not threatened
01:19:52 that all these non-artists in the world are going to use Dolly and be able to compete with my
01:19:58 artist. What sets me apart from them is not the physical skill of my hand to draw. The reason why
01:20:05 I have the work that I have and they don't is what sets me apart is not my hand. It's my mind.
01:20:13 I am more creative.
01:20:14 I am.
01:20:16 And he didn't say that.
01:20:17 I'm saying it for him.
01:20:18 He is more creative.
01:20:20 He's more brilliant.
01:20:22 He has a more glorious imagination.
01:20:25 He does.
01:20:26 And it's beautiful.
01:20:28 And it's awesome.
01:20:29 And the reality is you can put me with Dolly and put him with Dolly, and he's going to make
01:20:35 better stuff.
01:20:35 Give us the same amount of time and the same narrow AI to generate these things and make
01:20:41 images.
01:20:41 and his are still going to be better than mine. In fact, I think, I really think I would have a
01:20:46 better chance competing with this individual by hand because at least if we were doing it by hand
01:20:52 and I'm not a trained artist by, so I'd be drawing stick figures, horrible images, but the disparity
01:20:57 between his trained artist hand and my stick figure drawing hand, at least the one thing that
01:21:03 I'd have going for me is he's going to be way better, but at least he's going to be slowed down
01:21:07 by just his finitude. He's only got one hand, right? Or at least one that he can draw with,
01:21:13 and he's only got 24 hours in a day. But all of a sudden, you take off those encumbrances,
01:21:18 and you take them off for both of us. And yet now the disparity between us, it doesn't shrink,
01:21:23 it actually gets even wider. He's going to be able to produce, because the real difference
01:21:27 between this individual and me is not his skilled hand and my unskilled hand, but his imaginative
01:21:36 mind, creative mind. And I've got some creativity too, but not in the artistic, it's more strategic
01:21:43 and theological. I think in a different light, right? By God's grace, I've got a decent mind
01:21:49 as well, but in a different way, in a different vein. And so I say all that to say, I think one
01:21:55 of my predictions is first Christians will be slow to embrace it. And because they'll be slow 1.00
01:21:59 to embrace it, it's only going to become more biased against the things of God because you
01:22:05 won't have Christians teaching it. You won't have Christians discipling, for lack of a better term,
01:22:11 this narrow AI, putting into it these prompts and this human interaction from Christian humans. 0.63
01:22:18 But I hope that Christians will embrace it in ethical ways and that better than that, 0.69
01:22:23 some Christians who are gifted and able to do so will create Christian AI. And then second, 0.61
01:22:30 I think that it's going to widen the disparities. That's what technology and wealth does.
01:22:35 um you know another wilson uh wilson doug wilson ism is uh you know he used a hypothetical you
01:22:42 know illustration where he says you know if if somebody had a button and they put it in front
01:22:46 of you and they said if you push this button every single person in the world their wealth would
01:22:50 double instantly and not just you know because joe biden you know prints more dollar bills but
01:22:55 like in real terms right not just inflation you know but but in real terms the materials that
01:23:01 that person has would double immediately. And if you push this button, everyone, it wouldn't just
01:23:06 be for some, it wouldn't be some people's wealth doubles because some people now their wealth
01:23:10 disappears. No, it'd be across the board, all 8 billion people on the planet have twice as much
01:23:16 after you push the button as they did before. However, here's the catch. The top wealthiest
01:23:23 1% of the human population, their wealth instead of doubling, it multiplies by 10. Would you push
01:23:30 the button. And anybody who hesitates even for a moment, that hesitation is ultimately rooted in
01:23:37 envy. That's a sinful hesitation. It is. And I think that that's what technology as a tool,
01:23:46 which is a form of wealth, that's what it does is I think that across the board, what will happen
01:23:51 is the tide raises and all the boats rise. So I think everyone will be better off in terms of
01:24:00 wealth, materially better off, physical needs being met. I think everyone will be better off.
01:24:06 Yeah, it'll replace some jobs, but it'll create a whole host of new jobs that we haven't even
01:24:10 thought of before. I believe that. So I'm not worried in the long run of certain jobs will
01:24:16 be replaced. Certain individuals may have to hustle for a little bit as they're trying to
01:24:20 find a new line of work, but I think it's going to create more opportunities than it takes away.
01:24:24 i do um and in so doing as now a greater form of wealth is made available to the world i think the
01:24:32 tide is raising and all the boats will rise um but i think some boats will rise exponentially
01:24:38 higher than others so i think everyone will be generally better off but some will be um even
01:24:45 better off than they already you know the gap between um this uber duber you know sophisticated
01:24:51 educated, gifted, intelligent, brilliant individual, and this person who's more average,
01:24:56 that gap, I think, will get even bigger. I think the disparity will get even better,
01:25:01 bigger. Now, all that being said, and that shouldn't, right? I mean, that's part of what
01:25:06 the way that God made the world. Hierarchy is inescapable. It's inescapable. And that's the
01:25:12 irony is I think some of the people behind narrow AI are thinking this will level the playing field,
01:25:17 right? It's like a chance to dethrone capitalism, right? And to usher in this egalitarian. And the
01:25:26 irony is that will not happen. I'm calling it right now. That's my prediction. Over the next
01:25:30 10 years, you'll find more disparity, not less. Hierarchy is built into the fabric of God's world,
01:25:35 and God's not surprised by anything. AI is one of the things that he put that ability to create
01:25:40 these things in his world, and he also determined that his world would have an order of hierarchy,
01:25:45 and it will always have an order of hierarchy.
01:25:47 God created the world with diversity
01:25:48 and not just different skin pigment,
01:25:52 but diversity of thought and gifting
01:25:54 and competency and IQ and all those things.
01:25:57 God has built in a spectrum.
01:25:59 Everyone's not the same. 1.00
01:26:01 God hates androgyny. 1.00
01:26:02 He does. 0.82
01:26:03 God created a multifaceted world
01:26:05 and he did that even with humanity.
01:26:08 So I think that's going to only be
01:26:11 the hierarchy of the world,
01:26:12 disparities in the world,
01:26:13 differences in the world, diversity in the world, is only going to be multiplied, not minimized,
01:26:19 ironically, much to the chagrin of some of the people behind this narrow AI and chat GTP and
01:26:26 those kinds of things. So that's one prediction. Disparities increasing, Christians resisting,
01:26:32 and the need for Christians not only to embrace, but also to build. As it pertains though to
01:26:38 children to children um that disparity i think will be by far um the most significant
01:26:48 children who do not have a good home who do not have two parents right they're in the foster care
01:26:58 system right they're property of the state or they're a single parent home and who are we
01:27:05 kidding if it's single parent you know nine out of ten times it's a single mom um the dad is
01:27:10 incarcerated or abandoned them or whatever it might be but children who do not have a christian
01:27:17 two-parent god-fearing home with with rules where the parents provide structure and there's a moral
01:27:26 rule book for being a child raised in that home those children already suffer and we've seen that
01:27:33 exponentially increase people suffering more and more and more and more as there's been more
01:27:40 fatherlessness and part of a big part of that is because of welfare incentivizing women not to
01:27:47 marry the father of their children right the state saying we'll be your your children's daddy
01:27:52 you know we'll be your baby daddy please don't marry that man please don't get a get this job
01:27:59 please don't do that like incentivizing um apathy incentivizing the breakdown of households and
01:28:05 family and all these things um i think that what we'll see and and then you see the degradation
01:28:09 that comes about as the result of of just um media and social media and tick tock and all this
01:28:16 garbage um and and tv and streaming devices and then the fact that you know 10 year olds have
01:28:23 an iphone you know and are laying in bed at night with a smartphone with the whole internet available
01:28:30 to them on tiktok and i mean just because they don't have good parents so yeah so in that sense
01:28:36 i i have concern you know i have another friend of mine that i've talked to and he's not an artist
01:28:41 like the person that i just mentioned earlier as an example but he's a teacher and a lot of what
01:28:46 he's sensing with this right and this guy he's incredibly brilliant and very very brilliant
01:28:51 individual. And I agree with him on pretty much everything he said. He's saying, yeah, I see all
01:28:58 the positive potential. And I think in the long run, it will be potential. But immediately right
01:29:04 now, here and now, a lot of what I'm feeling is a sense of concern and even grief. Because my
01:29:09 vocation, I'm a father and I'm a teacher. And I know how students will abuse us, especially students
01:29:17 that don't have good Christian parents, that don't have guidelines in their home, that are
01:29:21 allowed access to TV and laptops and smartphones and all these kinds of things. And so I think that 0.70
01:29:29 public schools will get worse. Public schools, they're going to try. The state's going to put
01:29:34 in all its regulations and this and that. But public schools will fare the very worst in regards
01:29:41 to being able to actually police students cheating, using narrow AI in unethical ways to where they
01:29:49 use it to write their essay and use it to write this paper and all this. And so what will happen
01:29:55 is that children in bad homes with bad parents, especially children in single-parent homes 0.99
01:30:03 without a father, it's going to make them even dumber. It's going to be bad. I'll tell you right 0.99
01:30:13 now. It's going to be bad. Children in good homes with a father and a mother who keep their wedding
01:30:19 vows, who don't commit adultery, who don't divorce, and who are seeking to raise their
01:30:28 children in the fear and admonition of the Lord, who don't pawn their kids off on the state,
01:30:32 don't use public schools, put them in a Christian classical school or homeschool them
01:30:36 with good curriculum, and don't allow their child to have a smartphone until they're 18
01:30:42 years old and all those kinds of things, those children will be better. And you might say, well,
01:30:49 you just said they're not going to let them use this. Yeah, they'll be better in the sense that
01:30:52 they'll get the same kind of education they've gotten before. But then eventually when they do
01:30:57 reach adulthood, they'll be ready to use this kind of technology and they'll have brilliant minds and
01:31:01 be able to use that kind of tool, this technology, it's just a tool to achieve far more than they
01:31:08 would otherwise. And so I think even at the level of children, you're going to see greater
01:31:13 disparities. So all that being said, my prediction, next three to five years, but especially the next
01:31:19 decade, next 10 years, Christians will be slow on the uptake because you're going to have a lot 0.91
01:31:24 of dispensational Christians saying it's the mark of the beast. And once again, all that will amount 0.97
01:31:29 to is pagans using a certain tool that God has provided in his sovereignty and providence for us, 0.78
01:31:34 them using the tool before the Christians use the tool and then therefore them perverting the tool
01:31:40 and trying to get a monopoly on the tool and making the tool, you know, building into the
01:31:44 fabric and hardwiring of the tool, an anti-Christian rubric, a presupposition and allegiance against
01:31:52 Christ into the tool. So then we have to build our own tool and we do it 10 years after we should
01:31:57 have been doing it. And so I think you'll have that. And that's a bummer. And then at the adult
01:32:01 level for Christians who do embrace it and other people, I think you're just going to see not a
01:32:06 leveling of the playing field, not a narrowing of disparities, but actually a widening of
01:32:13 disparities because now you're not going to be impeded by how fast my hand can draw or how fast
01:32:19 I can write, but it's going to be just people's minds. And there will be massive disparities using
01:32:26 the same technology, massive disparity. Even right now, some people can get out, they can get
01:32:31 results out of chat GTP, results that are exponentially better than other people can
01:32:38 get out of chat GTP. They're using the same thing. And yet somebody is getting the ideas,
01:32:43 just the idea of what they're going to use it for and how they're going to use it and what prompts
01:32:48 they're going to give it. And all that comes down to at the end of the day is the one thing that
01:32:53 that AI will never have, which is the mind. It's a computer. It doesn't think. It searches,
01:32:59 predicts, and it does it incredibly... I mean, it's impressive. It's amazing.
01:33:05 But it's just searching and predicting. That's what it's doing. It must have human interaction.
01:33:12 It's not replacing people. People are made in the image of God, and God has not put into the fabric
01:33:18 of his physical cosmos, the materials necessary for us to make people. God is the only one who
01:33:25 can make people. And despite how many times we try or how we lie to ourselves, we're never going
01:33:31 to be able to create conscious, sentient beings. And so people will always be needed. People are
01:33:37 irreplaceable. They are. People are irreplaceable. And within these irreplaceable, image-bearing
01:33:46 you know people that god has created he also has put into that that framework hierarchy
01:33:53 diversity differences some people are more gifted than other people and that will continue and i
01:34:01 think technology if anything it just reveals that even more uh not less and then lastly again with
01:34:07 children i think that's where we'll see the disparity um most significantly of all and uh
01:34:14 for children, uh, in bad homes that don't, uh, aren't seeking to raise their children,
01:34:19 the fear and admonition of the Lord that, that have loose morals, um, that, that are utilizing
01:34:24 public schools and, uh, a single parent homes and that allow their children to have smartphones
01:34:30 and devices at a young age, you know, nine, 10, 11, 12 years old. Um, man, I, I, I really,
01:34:39 I truly grieve over that. It makes me sad. I think it's already bad and it's just going to
01:34:44 be worse. But for children who their parents are seeking to protect them and guard them with good
01:34:49 fathers in the home, they're going to train their children the fear and admonition of the Lord.
01:34:53 They're not going to use state schools. They're not going to give their kids a smartphone in their
01:34:58 pocket. They're going to be faithful in raising their children, training their children,
01:35:04 teaching them the arts and all these different things. Those children will do just as well as
01:35:09 They always have, if not even better, because when they're done being formed and shaped
01:35:15 and trained in childhood and they're ready to enter into adulthood and vocation, all
01:35:21 those things, they'll have more tools available to them to take that mind that's been shaped
01:35:26 by their father and mother in a proper education and proper discipleship, they'll be able to 0.97
01:35:31 take that mind that's superior to their contemporaries, those who were raised in non-Christian 0.70
01:35:37 homes. They'll be able to take that superior mind shaped by the Word of God, which is the one true 0.84
01:35:41 superior worldview, and then just maximize and multiply exponentially all the potential in that
01:35:49 good God-fearing mind with tools. And those are my thoughts. All right. Thanks for tuning in.
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