The NXR Podcast - BONUS EPISODE - Protecting Our Children： How AI Threatens the Next Generation (A Biblical Theology of AI)

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00:00:40.100 All right, guys. Welcome back to another one of our Monday live episodes with myself, Pastor Joel

00:00:45.680 Webin, host of Right Response Ministries. We do this each Monday at 2 p.m. Central Time. Each

00:00:50.780 Monday at 2 p.m. Central Time, and I'm about 50-50. About half of the time, I'll take questions from

00:00:57.160 our listeners. And about the other half of the time, I have something that I want to address.

00:01:01.560 And today is the latter. There's something that I think is relevant, urgent, and significant that

00:01:07.600 needs to be addressed from a Christian worldview. That something is AI, artificial intelligence,

00:01:14.240 most notably, or recently, having to do with specific forms and tools of AI like chat, GTP,

00:01:21.520 which would be a text form but also we would have things like Dolly which is an imaging

00:01:28.480 processor. It's an AI that can generate images. All these being original images and pictures you

00:01:35.500 type in a prompt and it gives you something to work with. You further prompt the technology and

00:01:41.460 it gives you something more. So chat GTP and Dolly but all within the larger discussion of

00:01:47.380 artificial intelligence. How should Christians think about this and particularly what I want 0.93

00:01:50.840 to deal with is how Christians should think about this in relation to our children. As we are seeking

00:01:57.660 to be diligent to fulfill the scriptural command, especially as it has to do with fathers, to train

00:02:04.560 up our children in the fear and admonition of the Lord. We have a responsibility to provide for our

00:02:10.260 children. That includes their education, the shaping and forming of their minds, their Christian

00:02:15.200 worldview, their faith. So providing for our children, but also protecting our children. There's

00:02:20.220 physical protection, but there's also spiritual and mental protection that's all baked into the

00:02:25.380 pie. And so how should we as Christians through a biblical lens view artificial intelligence,

00:02:30.760 and particularly how should we view it in light of our role, our God-given assignment

00:02:35.780 to provide and protect our children? Okay, so all that being said, let's start with some

00:02:40.760 definitions. The first thing that we need to understand about artificial intelligence that

00:02:44.920 I think a lot of Christians don't understand, a lot of people in general don't understand,

00:02:48.460 is there are three basic types of AI. There's obviously more complex things that could be

00:02:54.880 discussed that would be above my pay grade, but what a basic understanding that I have that

00:02:59.400 generally kind of covers the field is this. You have narrow AI, you have IG or AGI, AGI, which is

00:03:07.380 artificial general intelligence, and then you have an idea. It's really just a concept of

00:03:12.480 transhumanism, okay? So you have AI, artificial intelligence, which really more specifically

00:03:18.180 should be described as narrow AI. And then you have this idea of artificial general intelligence,

00:03:24.980 AGI, and then transhumanism. And so what we're discussing, what right now is on the horizon and

00:03:31.060 already here with chat GTP being one example, Dolly being another example, is what would fall

00:03:36.460 into the category of narrow AI. This is not artificial general intelligence. It's not

00:03:42.560 conscious, is what I'm saying. Transhumanism, so let me just give you a little bit of a definition

00:03:47.860 of these terms. Transhumanism would be like the attempt of people to somehow upload their

00:03:53.260 consciousness onto silicon, and have basically uploading their personhood up into the cloud, 0.89

00:04:00.660 that they would exist forever. This is the attempt of pagan men who hate God to try to escape their 0.97

00:04:07.700 own mortality, to try to be able to escape their own death, to deify themselves, to become as God, 0.81

00:04:14.600 man's attempt to be God, right? So there's transhumanism, which is to take your consciousness 0.97

00:04:19.520 and input it into some computer so that you essentially, effectively live forever. This is

00:04:26.260 not something that has been accomplished. In my perspective, this is something that will never be

00:04:31.280 accomplished. God won't allow this to be accomplished, I think, on two levels. One,

00:04:35.000 in his sovereignty, in his providence, he would not allow it to be accomplished. We see Psalm

00:04:40.320 chapter 2, that the nations rage, that the rulers of this world, they seek to break the bonds apart.

00:04:47.660 What that's referring to is they seek to be autonomous. They seek to have an autonomous

00:04:53.160 libertarian definition of freedom. They don't want to be underneath the banner of a sovereign God

00:05:00.100 who dictates and orchestrates and ordains all things. They hate the deterministic sovereignty

00:05:06.900 of God. They want to be autonomous creatures apart from God's sovereignty, autonomously

00:05:12.940 free, right? So the nations are raging against God and his authority. The rulers of this age,

00:05:18.920 of this world are seeking to break apart the bonds. They're trying to somehow sever themselves

00:05:24.600 from being under the banner of God's sovereignty and attain this autonomous freedom. And God's

00:05:30.420 response is this, he doesn't even bother to get up off of his throne, as it were. It doesn't even

00:05:36.420 merit an active, as it were, using analogous language, it doesn't even merit an active

00:05:43.540 response from God. He who sits in the heavens, he sits, he remains seated, composed, and he laughs

00:05:50.900 and holds them in derision. So one, I don't think transhumanism is going to be achieved because I 0.93

00:05:55.740 don't believe God and his sovereignty would allow it. But secondly, I think practically it's not 1.00

00:06:00.380 going to be achieved. God is the only capital C creator, right? God is the only one who creates

00:06:05.620 ex nihilo out of nothing. All we do as image bearers of the living God, as human beings made

00:06:11.360 in his image is that we are creators in a sense. We are lowercase c creators. None of us are able

00:06:17.780 as creatures to create out of nothing. Only God is able to do that, and he has. We are able to

00:06:24.080 take the things that God has made and produce from them other tools and developments and

00:06:31.420 innovations. That's what we're able to do. We're able to multiply resources and take one thing and

00:06:36.920 make another, shape it, form it, but we are not able to create out of nothing. And so all we're

00:06:42.520 able to work with at the end of the day, as image bearers of the living God, lowercase c creators,

00:06:47.560 is we're able to create with the substance, the resources that God has provided for us,

00:06:52.700 namely the materials that God has baked into the world that he has made. And I do not believe that

00:06:58.220 the materials are available, that they even exist to achieve something like transhumanism,

00:07:05.780 to where we would be able to upload our consciousness into some kind of computer framework

00:07:11.980 to where our bodies could die, our physical bodies, but our consciousness could go on

00:07:18.260 eternally existing. That's not going to happen. Now, mark my words, I do think that there will

00:07:23.800 be people in the future who will lie to the general public, those who are naive enough to

00:07:28.420 believe it, ignorant enough to believe it, and say that that's happening, but it won't, right?

00:07:33.200 I do think that you could get to a point where your memories could be harvested for those 0.92

00:07:39.680 who are foolish or even for those, you know, not just Neuralink or some kind of chip in

00:07:43.860 your body, which I would advocate strongly against, but not just that, but harvesting 0.99

00:07:49.720 your memories and experiences and all these things just through your social media accounts

00:07:53.860 and just your online internet activity, right?

00:07:57.260 This is how Amazon is able to suggest, you know, what things might, you know, spark your

00:08:02.260 interest, what things you might be willing to purchase, because they can see all of your

00:08:06.360 previous purchases, and they can see what websites you've been on and what items you've looked at.

00:08:12.400 This is the same as streaming devices, whether it's Netflix or Disney+, these things, which 1.00

00:08:17.760 Disney+, would be a great example of something that I would recommend Christians not have, 1.00

00:08:22.580 especially for their children. Disney is utterly and entirely woke. They hate God. They hate 1.00

00:08:28.640 white people, they hate masculinity, and ultimately they hate Christian culture, 1.00

00:08:34.440 they hate Christ. But for those who have streaming services, all this kinds of stuff, 0.98

00:08:39.580 Google would be another example, Google Maps, not just Google Maps, but Apple Maps, any kind of

00:08:45.580 thing that's getting your directions, that knows these are the places that you visit most frequently,

00:08:49.880 and these are the searches that you put in when you're looking for things online that you use

00:08:56.320 most frequently. So is it possible in theory that pagan men who hate God would take a bunch of data

00:09:03.860 that they have about you, your memories and experiences and these kinds of things, and then

00:09:09.540 from that use a narrow AI tool or device in order to predict, to search through the log of your

00:09:17.100 memories and then offer a whole host of different scenarios and most likely predictions of what you

00:09:24.560 might say, right? So where your loved ones, you know, are asking you a question, you know, and

00:09:29.420 it's using this deep fake technology, which is real and currently available to mimic the way

00:09:35.440 that you look, mimic the sound of your voice, and then pull from all your past experiences that

00:09:41.620 they have access to, to then predict what you might say and do it in an original format again

00:09:48.320 and again and again, and ultimately lie to your loved ones and say that your consciousness that,

00:09:53.320 you know, so-and-so is not really dead, their consciousness is going on forever, and you've

00:09:58.940 preserved your loved one, and there's a monthly fee that you have to pay, you know, it's going to

00:10:02.700 cost money for us to keep your loved one, you know, eternally existing in this digital world

00:10:07.980 to where you can continue to have, you know, access to them relationally, and they're very

00:10:12.720 happy, and they're, you know, well, while all that's going on, of course, the reality is that

00:10:17.080 that person is either in heaven or hell, right? They're not in the cloud, that's just not going

00:10:21.500 to happen. So transhumanism is not going to happen because God in sovereignty wouldn't allow 0.97

00:10:26.260 it to happen. He would hold the powers that be in derision if he had to, or like the Tower of 0.72

00:10:32.820 Babel, he would come and confuse their languages in a literal sense or metaphorical sense to break

00:10:38.600 up that demonic unity against him. So in his sovereignty, God's not going to allow that to

00:10:44.860 happen. But then also, not just providentially, but practically, I don't believe that those

00:10:50.660 materials are available in the world. And for those of you who've been following the show for

00:10:55.540 a while, you're aware that I, you know, in terms of my eschatology, I hold to post-millennialism.

00:11:00.420 So I'm not saying that these kinds of things won't happen because Jesus is coming back next

00:11:04.940 Thursday and there's not enough time. I believe that if Christ tarried for 10,000 years, it still

00:11:10.460 wouldn't happen. One, because of God's sovereignty, not allowing it to happen. And two, because

00:11:14.960 practically it's not possible. And people pretend that it's possible. They can wish, they can dream,

00:11:20.660 but it's not possible. So transhumanism is not going to happen. But beyond just that, 0.96

00:11:25.360 I'm of the persuasion, this is my opinion, that AGI, this artificial general intelligence,

00:11:31.520 is also not going to happen. So to define that term for just a moment, the transhumanism is

00:11:36.120 uploading a person's conscience to some kind of computer framework, whereas AGI, artificial

00:11:41.080 general intelligence, would be somehow the machine itself, the computer, the AI attaining

00:11:47.300 consciousness. And what you need to understand about something like ChatGTP or Dolly or these

00:11:52.700 other programs, Jasper, different things that are launching on the scene, they're only going to get

00:11:56.360 better and there's only going to be more of them. There's going to be competition, all these

00:11:59.420 different things. As that happens, what you need to understand is that this computer, this

00:12:05.740 technology is not conscious and it is not thinking. It is searching and predicting with incredible

00:12:13.420 speed and incredible accuracy, but it is not thinking. So we're not talking about AI like

00:12:21.680 you would see in some kind of horror sci-fi movie. That's not what we have. It's not this artificial

00:12:27.280 general intelligence, but it's a narrow AI, a narrow artificial intelligence that searches

00:12:33.320 and then predicts. And so in that sense, if Christians want to, in principle, they say, 0.70

00:12:39.340 well, I don't think that this is right. I don't think it honors the Lord. I think that 0.63

00:12:42.220 there's a problem with this, and there's a problem with that. And I want to avoid using AI

00:12:46.600 altogether. Well, then you need to trash your smartphone. You need to never use Google or Bing

00:12:53.400 or any kind of search bar, you know, search technology. That is narrow AI. That's a form

00:12:59.900 of artificial intelligence. It's searching and predicting. So you need to get rid of that.

00:13:05.200 Furthermore, you can't use maps on your phone. If you use any streaming device, right, it's

00:13:10.840 predicting, Netflix or whatever it is, whatever kind of scenario you might have. It's looking

00:13:17.880 at the things that you've previously viewed, the things that you've previously liked. So it's

00:13:22.320 searching this backlog, and then it's predicting what you might click on in the future, what you

00:13:28.000 might find interesting in the future. This is what social media is doing. Social media is ultimately

00:13:33.780 just saying, hey, these are the kinds of things that the person clicks on, the kinds of things

00:13:37.940 that the person seems to be, based off of their past history, interested in. And we're going to

00:13:42.080 keep putting these things in front of you, predicting what you might find most interesting

00:13:46.440 in any given moment in order to keep you on our site longer. All of these are forms of AI. And so

00:13:54.640 it's a narrow AI. It's not artificial general intelligence. It's not thinking. It's not

00:14:00.000 conscious. It doesn't have personhood or anything like that. But it is searching and predicting at

00:14:05.780 such speed and such accuracy that it appears to us as though there's actual thought. So it looks

00:14:14.120 like thinking. It's not. It is searching and predicting. All right? So narrow artificial

00:14:20.900 intelligence, that's some of the things that we have right now, like chat GTP would be an example.

00:14:26.000 Then this AGI, artificial general intelligence, where a machine actually has consciousness,

00:14:31.260 it's actually thinking. I believe that that is impossible, that that's not going to happen.

00:14:35.100 Again, twofold because God into sovereignty, I don't believe we'll allow it. And number two,

00:14:39.520 I don't think that those materials in a practical sense are actually in the cosmos that we would

00:14:45.220 need in order to develop such a thing. And then third, transhumanism, not making a machine man,

00:14:52.160 but trying to use a machine, upload a man to a machine to make man God, right? AGI is trying to

00:14:58.280 make a machine man. It's trying to make that artificial intelligence, give it personhood,

00:15:05.280 make it conscious, make it alive in a sense. So I don't think that's going to happen. AGI,

00:15:10.580 I don't think you're going to make machines into men. I also don't think that transhumanism 0.70

00:15:15.080 make men through machines into God, where they could somehow escape their own death and achieve

00:15:21.800 immortality. That's not going to happen either. But what I do think we're going to have

00:15:26.960 is further and further developments within this category of narrow AI, narrow artificial

00:15:33.220 intelligence. ChatGTP is just one example of narrow AI. All right, so now, all that being said,

00:15:40.500 we need to have a theology of tools. Doug Wilson has done some great work on this in the first

00:15:47.300 half of his book, Plot Activity. I'm going to use some of those concepts, and I'm going to add to

00:15:51.760 a little bit of some of my own research, my own thoughts. But the first thing is technology is

00:15:57.500 simply a tool. That's what it is. It's a tool. It's a high-powered form of a tool. The question

00:16:04.220 is, okay, but what is a tool? The Bible doesn't address tools at great length, right? We don't

00:16:09.860 have long, you know, multiple lengthy passages of Scripture dealing with tools. But we do have

00:16:16.840 plenty of scripture outlining for us a theology of wealth. And tools, technology is a form of a tool

00:16:24.360 and tools are a form of wealth. They're a form of wealth. And so we can look to the scripture and

00:16:30.500 see what does the scripture say the Christian's responsibility is to wealth. One of the things 0.92

00:16:36.060 that the scripture says, or I'll start by saying what it doesn't say, the Bible doesn't say that

00:16:41.700 money is the root of all evil. And the Bible also doesn't say, many of you are probably aware of

00:16:47.600 that. You're already ahead of me thinking, yeah, that's right. It's the love of money. Amen. But

00:16:52.560 the Bible, it doesn't say that money is the root of all evil. It doesn't also say that the love

00:16:58.060 of money is the root of all evil. The better translation of that is that the love of money

00:17:04.460 is the root of all kinds of evil, not all evil. It's not as though every sin that has ever been

00:17:11.240 committed throughout the whole course of human history can be tracked back to the love of money,

00:17:16.780 greed. But greed, as what I would consider to be a root sin or a root idol, this root idol of greed

00:17:26.400 can sprout, it can bear the fruit of all different types of sin. So it's not as though all sin that

00:17:33.740 has ever been committed tracks back to the root sin of greed, but greed is in fact, according to

00:17:39.940 the scripture, it is one of, I would argue, several, but it is one example of a root sin

00:17:46.720 that can give birth, it can produce all different categories of surface sins, right? To give some

00:17:52.940 more examples of root sins or root idols that give birth to multiple expressions of sin at the level

00:17:58.940 of thoughts and speech and actions, some other root idols or root sins would be the love of power,

00:18:07.180 love of control love of comfort and pleasure another would be certainly would be and we see

00:18:16.040 this throughout you know multiple places in scripture but the approval of man the incessant

00:18:22.000 desire and even need insecure incessant need for the approval not that comes from god as heavenly

00:18:29.640 father but that comes from man wanting the approval of man the fear of man can be a root

00:18:36.800 idol or root sin that drives all different kinds of surface sins, meaning that that desire to have

00:18:44.660 the approval and applause of man, being bound in slavery to the fear of man, can cause a person

00:18:50.080 to commit a whole host of different kinds of sin. So too, the love of money, greed, is not the root

00:18:58.180 of all sin, but it is the root of all kinds of sin, all kinds of evil. So every category,

00:19:06.540 every major category or expression, physical outward manifestation of different kinds of sins,

00:19:13.460 different kinds of evil can in fact come from greed, this one root sin. And likewise, you can

00:19:20.200 make the same argument when it comes to the root sin of the approval of man or the root sin of

00:19:25.140 addiction to pleasure and comfort or fill in the blank. I don't think that there's a limitless

00:19:30.320 amount of root sins. I think there's probably a good four, five, six of them, but then there's

00:19:36.860 virtually limitless expressions, outward manifestations of surface sins that come from

00:19:41.720 these root idols. So what does the Bible say about the Christian's responsibility to wealth?

00:19:46.940 Well, at first, it warns us. It doesn't say that money is evil. It doesn't say that money

00:19:53.220 is inherently immoral, but it does say that an idolatrous love of money, namely greed,

00:20:01.080 can bear all kinds of sinful fruit. That can be the source of all kinds of sinful fruit.

00:20:08.320 So the first thing, one of the first things that the Bible tells us about wealth, as we seek to

00:20:12.960 view wealth through a Christian lens, is that we should have a holy suspicion. We should be on our 0.90

00:20:19.060 guard. We should be seeking actively, diligently, constantly to guard our hearts in Christ Jesus and

00:20:25.300 to guard our minds by the truth of God's word. The heart, as Calvin said, is an idol-making

00:20:30.900 factory. So we need to be on guard against making money in idol, loving money in a sinful way.

00:20:39.140 That's the first thing. But then the Bible also says a lot about wealth in terms of positive

00:20:46.040 of things, that can be achieved by wealth. And a Christian has a responsibility to be ultimately, 0.89

00:20:52.500 the main word that's used again and again, is stewardship. That we are called as Christians

00:20:58.020 to recognize that in a very real sense, if we're to be literal about it, we as human beings,

00:21:05.240 whether we're Christian or non-Christian, we as mere creatures do not own anything.

00:21:11.220 God is the one who owns the cattle on a thousand hills. God made everything, and therefore God has 0.56

00:21:17.260 exclusive ownership rights over everything. And so we are simply stewards in the master's house.

00:21:25.620 This world is a blood-bought world. This world belongs to King Jesus. It belongs to him. He's

00:21:32.240 the one who has ownership over the world, but his servants have stewardship responsibilities

00:21:37.880 within his kingdom, within his house. And so we are called to steward wealth in wise, careful,

00:21:46.880 God-glorifying, and neighbor-loving ways for the good of our neighbor and for the glory of God.

00:21:54.180 That's the Christian's responsibility to wealth. Tools being a form of wealth and technology being 0.62

00:22:01.560 a high-powered, sophisticated form of a tool. So I think the first thing that we should think of

00:22:07.420 is that, well, let's go back to wealth for a second. If somebody has little wealth,

00:22:13.440 then there is little potential for sin, to use that wealth in corrupt ways. There's still plenty

00:22:21.640 of temptation to be greedy. You can be poor and be greedy. You can be poor and be more greedy

00:22:26.320 than somebody who's rich. But in terms of the utilization of wealth, using it for nefarious

00:22:32.600 means, using it in corrupt ways. Greater wealth, greater potential for corruption. Using that

00:22:41.240 wealth in evil ways, in sinful ways. Well, tools, same thing. More tools or better tools,

00:22:49.600 more sophisticated tools, higher degrees of technology, same thing. There's greater potential

00:22:55.900 for good. There's also greater potential for bad. Wealth in and of itself and therefore tools and

00:23:02.580 therefore technology is not inherently evil in and of itself. The question is, how is it going

00:23:08.880 to be stewarded by the Christian? It can be stewarded poorly, or it can be stewarded well. 1.00

00:23:14.220 And there's just a progressively increasing degree of responsibility to steward wisely

00:23:20.720 as that wealth increases. And so with high-powered, sophisticated technology, a very,

00:23:26.900 very sophisticated tool, which is a large degree of wealth is a way that we can understand it,

00:23:33.740 then there's just all the more temptation to use it in bad ways and all the more

00:23:38.100 moral obligation to steward it wisely, okay? So that's kind of a theology of wealth as it

00:23:44.800 relates to tools, as it relates to technology, okay? So now all that being said, I want to use

00:23:50.980 a biblical example, okay? Genesis chapter 11, the Tower of Babel. I've already briefly referenced

00:23:57.820 it, but now I want to go into a little bit more depth. One thing that a lot of Christians are

00:24:02.480 unaware of in this biblical passage is that you have man, and you have man after the course of

00:24:12.780 multiple generations of rebellion against God, right? Because you have the line of Seth, right?

00:24:20.140 So this would be right after the fall, Genesis chapter 3, and now you have Genesis 4 and

00:24:24.560 then 5.

00:24:25.740 4 is where we find the dispute between Cain and Abel, and how Cain murders his brother

00:24:33.440 Abel.

00:24:33.960 And then you see Abel's now out of the picture, and then you have the line of Cain, picking

00:24:38.720 up in Genesis 5, and the line of Seth.

00:24:42.320 And Seth is righteous, and he's teaching his children the ways of the Lord, training them

00:24:48.260 up, and the fear and admonition of the Lord.

00:24:49.760 and then you have Cain, who is wicked. And from that line of Cain, you have multiple generations.

00:24:57.120 That's where you get Lamech. He's the first polygamist. He's the first guy to take two wives. 0.94

00:25:01.580 He's bragging about his violence and all these different things. He's saying, well, if the

00:25:07.420 penalty for hurting or harming or murdering Cain is a life for a life, well then for Lamech,

00:25:17.900 for me, you know, it's seven times, you know, and he brags about how he abused or hurt or maybe even

00:25:24.680 possibly killed a young boy who offended him. So, he's a wicked man, and this is a few generations

00:25:31.240 removed from Cain. So, you have the line of Seth going in one direction for, you know, for all

00:25:36.300 intents and purposes to simplify it in the direction of righteousness, and then you have

00:25:41.640 the line of Cain going in this direction of wickedness. And with each generation from Cain,

00:25:48.060 you see that they're progressively getting more evil. They're getting worse. Now, at the level

00:25:55.260 of the heart, they're not getting worse. The Bible teaches very plainly the doctrine of total

00:25:59.780 depravity. So at the level of the heart, people are, well, Genesis 6.15 would be a good example, 0.60

00:26:07.360 that every intention of man's heart and every thought was only evil continually. 0.99

00:26:13.420 So at the level of the heart for the unbeliever, apart from saving grace 0.84

00:26:17.360 that comes through faith in Jesus Christ alone, apart from that, apart from being born again

00:26:23.360 and actually receiving from God a new heart and the heart of stone being removed

00:26:28.020 at the level of the heart, speaking about man inwardly, he's as evil as he possibly could ever be.

00:26:33.840 he only ever sins against God, right? Romans 14 says, anything that does not proceed from faith

00:26:42.640 is sin. Hebrews chapter 11 says, without faith, it is impossible to please God. And an unbeliever

00:26:50.520 can never do anything in faith. I've defined, you know, what it is to do something in faith like 1.00

00:26:55.740 this. I've said to do something in faith is to do it with a reliance on God's grace and a desire

00:27:03.160 for God's glory. You could put it like this for a little bit more alliteration. Dependence,

00:27:09.320 so two Ds, dependence on God's grace and desire for God's glory. So the unbeliever, because he's 1.00

00:27:17.560 made in the image of God, that image of God has been tarnished through sin, but a vestige of the 0.95

00:27:22.140 image of God remains. Unbelievers are still made in the image of God. They bear God's image, and

00:27:26.480 because of that, the Imago Dei and the law of God written on their hearts, even as unbelievers,

00:27:31.440 there's this conscience, this moral compass within them. An unbeliever, at the level of their 0.89

00:27:36.580 outward behaviors and speech, actions, outwardly, a non-Christian can do things that align, that 1.00

00:27:44.060 outwardly align with the revealed will of God, that outwardly align with God's law, God's moral 0.88

00:27:50.000 commandments. So, an unbeliever could keep his wedding vows, for instance, and never commit 0.80

00:27:55.500 adultery. An unbeliever could not cheat on his taxes. An unbeliever could have ethical integrity

00:28:02.580 in their business practices. An unbeliever can do these kinds of things. An unbeliever could cure

00:28:07.860 cancer in an ethical way. An unbeliever, a whole host of different outward manifestations of 1.00

00:28:14.260 actions or behaviors or speech that align with God's moral will. Inwardly, though, total depravity. 1.00

00:28:20.320 So utter depravity would be outwardly, not just inwardly, but outwardly, you're doing as

00:28:25.240 much possible evil as you possibly can all the time. The Bible does not teach a doctrine of

00:28:30.780 utter depravity, but it teaches a doctrine of total depravity. Inwardly, the reason why man

00:28:36.320 is constantly sinning, the sinful man, the unbeliever, apart from becoming a new creature 1.00

00:28:41.960 in Christ Jesus and their body being a temple of the Holy Spirit, apart from that supernatural 1.00

00:28:46.660 salvific grace found in Christ Jesus alone, an unbeliever is totally depraved because inwardly 0.98

00:28:53.640 everything he's doing is in defiance of God. He could do good things outwardly at the outward 1.00

00:28:59.460 level that align with God's moral will, but inwardly there's no acknowledgement of God's

00:29:04.500 grace and there's no desire for God's glory. So if an unbeliever does something that outwardly 0.88

00:29:12.200 is morally good, even by God's moral standards, he has done it with a reliance on himself and a 0.99

00:29:18.520 desire for his own glory. Or at best, the best that we could say of the ethical atheist, who is

00:29:25.940 ultimately only ethical because he's behaving inconsistently with his worldview, but

00:29:30.520 plenty of people are behaving inconsistently with their own worldview. They can't help it because

00:29:36.260 they're created in the image of God and they have no choice but to live in God's world and God's

00:29:40.120 world works in a certain way. And so these people who live inconsistently, right, the humanitarian

00:29:45.060 atheist. You know, the moral atheist, the best that we could say is either he's doing everything

00:29:51.040 with a reliance on his own strength and a desire for his own glory, or giving him the most benefit

00:29:55.560 of the doubt. We could say he's doing what he's doing, even those things that outwardly do align

00:30:00.960 with God's moral will that are good things in terms of outward behaviors. He's doing it with

00:30:05.460 a reliance on the collective strength of humanity. Oh, not just my own strength. I'm not just relying

00:30:10.180 on me. That would be arrogant. I'm relying on the team. Couldn't have done it without the team.

00:30:14.780 I'm relying on the collective strength and spirit of humanity, and I'm doing it not just for me,

00:30:21.060 one small step for man, but one giant leap for mankind. I'm doing it for the good of people.

00:30:26.280 But what he can't ever do is he cannot do anything with a reliance on God's grace and a desire for

00:30:33.140 God's glory. He could rely on collective humanity and do it for the benefit of others, but he can't

00:30:39.520 ever, apart from salvation and having a new heart, he cannot do anything with an acknowledgement and

00:30:45.260 a dependence, a humility, recognizing the grace of God, that it's only God who created him. It's

00:30:51.240 God who gives him his life and his existence, his being, his movement. In him we live and breathe

00:30:58.740 and have our being. And so he's not relying on God's grace and he may do something for the

00:31:04.800 betterment of others for mankind, but not for God's glory. In that sense, he is totally depraved, 0.56

00:31:11.980 not utterly depraved, outwardly doing as much evil as possible, but totally depraved inwardly

00:31:17.380 at every turn. Everything he does, even good things, ultimately is an offense to God. It is

00:31:23.920 without faith. And without faith, it's impossible to please God. Anything that does not proceed from

00:31:28.480 faith is sin. Okay. All that being said, Tower of Babel, Genesis chapter 11, you have the line

00:31:36.860 of Cain that has progressively gotten worse outwardly, not inwardly. All right, right?

00:31:42.420 David says, in sin did my mother not just bear me, not just in birth, but conceive me.

00:31:48.400 I was conceived in sin. So from conception, the Bible teaches plainly, apart from regeneration

00:31:53.560 by the Spirit, salvation, a human being from the point of conception is totally depraved.

00:32:00.260 So at the inward level, speaking of man, we're talking about biblical anthropology,

00:32:04.700 a biblical view of man. Speaking of man and his moral inclinations inwardly,

00:32:11.260 every single human being from conception is as bad as you can get. So the line of Cain did not

00:32:17.020 get progressively worse or progressively more immoral inwardly. They were totally depraved, 0.98

00:32:23.640 just like people today in 2022. When you're conceived in your mother's womb, apart from 0.97

00:32:29.260 saving grace, apart from salvation, totally depraved, right? So Lamech isn't any worse than 0.99

00:32:34.400 Cain in that regard. But what does happen within societies, within cultures throughout generations

00:32:42.860 is outwardly, that inward total depravity begins to seep out and manifest itself in tangible,

00:32:49.760 practical, physical, outward ways progressively more and more. And that's what you see leading

00:32:55.980 up to Genesis chapter 11, all right? So that sets kind of the theological framework of total

00:33:00.360 depravity, utter depravity, meaning people were really, really bad by the time we come to Genesis

00:33:04.940 chapter 11. And what they're now trying to do is a couple things. They're trying to build a tower

00:33:10.680 that reaches to the heavens so that they can be like God. They're trying to deify man. It's like

00:33:16.560 this transhumanism kind of idea. You know, it's, we're going to live forever. We're going to be 0.93

00:33:21.020 as God. We're going to become a deity. We're going to, you know, escape our own immortality,

00:33:25.340 our own death, and all these kinds of things. We're going to transcend our creaturely existence

00:33:30.740 and become like the creator. Okay. That's one level. But the other level is, and this one's

00:33:37.800 more practical. This is the one that I think we should take note of. The other level is they're

00:33:43.440 simply trying to practically revolt against one of God's clear, physical, witnessable, visible

00:33:51.740 commandments that he gave to Adam in the garden, which is to be fruitful, multiply, and fill the

00:33:57.640 earth. Subdue it. To exercise God-given stewardship, that's what dominion is. It's Christian stewardship 0.51

00:34:05.640 over the earth, the physical earth, to exercise dominion, proper Christian stewardship as sons

00:34:12.220 of God, but not just over one corner of the earth, not just in the garden. Adam's eschaton,

00:34:18.020 okay? If Adam had never sinned and eaten of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and

00:34:22.860 evil, Adam, just like us, he had an eschaton. And I believe that Adam's eschaton, I think ours is

00:34:30.240 more glorious because we have Christ's eschaton. We're not in Adam, right? A person can only have

00:34:35.080 two identities. They're either in Adam, the first Adam, or they're in Christ, the second Adam, the

00:34:40.080 last Adam. And so for those of us who are Christians who are in Christ through faith, we have a higher

00:34:46.560 eschaton. But Adam still had an eschaton. I believe that he was on a probationary period in the

00:34:52.340 garden, a probationary period to obey the commandments of God, to teach his wife what God

00:34:58.280 had said. God gave the commandment to Adam, and I think Adam was responsible to relay this

00:35:03.400 commandment, to wash his wife in the word, in the word of God, to disciple her, to defend her, to

00:35:09.360 be a guardian, to work and keep the ground. Work and keep. Work meaning cultivate the ground, 0.68

00:35:16.160 provide for it, cultivate it, nourish it, and cause it to ultimately, by nourishing the garden,

00:35:21.980 it would have also increased. It would have expanded. So it's not just to remain in this

00:35:26.540 garden, but the garden would fill the earth. Adam, the Bible says he was created in the wilderness

00:35:31.880 and then placed in the garden. So all the world, before sin entered, all the world was good,

00:35:37.480 but that doesn't mean that there were no portions of the world that were barren,

00:35:42.400 that were wilderness, that the garden was not global. But I do believe that that was a part

00:35:48.680 of Adam's eschaton, is that he was meant to work the ground, and in working and cultivating,

00:35:54.120 providing for the creation, exercising godly stewardship there, dominion, he would have

00:36:00.340 expanded the garden to cover eventually over time that there would be no deserts any longer. There

00:36:06.100 would be no wilderness any longer, but the garden would expand and increase and fill the whole

00:36:11.240 earth. And then Adam was also called to keep, work and keep. Now that working kind of relates

00:36:17.240 to provision. The keeping relates to protection, to guard the garden. And Adam certainly failed,

00:36:22.620 if in no other regards, he failed by the mere fact that the serpent gained entrance into the

00:36:28.720 garden and was able to slither up right to his wife and began blaspheming God and lying about

00:36:34.820 what God had said. And the Bible says that when Eve ate of the fruit, her husband was there

00:36:40.120 with her. And so he was not keeping, guarding, protecting his wife or this garden place. But

00:36:47.200 Adam, all that to say, Adam had an eschaton and it was not just to live in this garden area

00:36:53.460 geographically in one portion of the world that God had made, but to work and keep it, protect it

00:36:59.000 from threats and enemies, but also work it, and by working, increase it so that it would eventually

00:37:05.260 expand and fill the earth. So the commandment that God gave in the cultural mandate, the dominion

00:37:11.700 mandate, all the way back before sin even entered the world to our first parents, Adam and Eve,

00:37:17.280 was to impart, there's multiple pieces, I've already covered them, but part of that is to

00:37:21.920 spread out, to spread out, to multiply, to procreate and to multiply image bearers of the

00:37:29.880 living God, worshipers, but to also to spread out so that every corner of the earth, as it were, 0.74

00:37:36.560 every single portion of the earth would be filled with worshipers of the triune God.

00:37:42.760 The whole earth would be filled with the garden and the whole garden now, a global garden covering 0.98

00:37:47.860 the whole face of the earth, that it would be filled with image bearers of the living God,

00:37:52.440 paying homage to him and worshiping him in spirit and in truth. Now, line of Cain, okay, sin enters

00:37:59.380 the world. Cain kills his brother. Down the line of Cain, they're not getting worse at the sense

00:38:04.460 of total depravity inwardly, but they are getting progressively worse in terms of that total

00:38:09.080 depravity coming out in physical outward actions and manifestations of evil. And it eventually

00:38:16.300 culminates in Genesis chapter 11 with this evil desire and now they're acting on it, which is to

00:38:23.400 what? To not obey God's commandment, to spread out, to fill the earth and to exercise dominion

00:38:30.360 over all the earth. And they say, let us, not just let's be like God building a tower to the

00:38:35.240 heavens, but the second part is let us make a name for ourselves so that we will not be scattered

00:38:42.740 over the earth. What they want to do is defy God who said, fill the earth, be fruitful, multiply,

00:38:48.900 and spread out and fill the earth with image bearers of the living God and with, more importantly,

00:38:54.040 worshipers of the triune God in spirit and in truth. They don't want to do that. They want to

00:38:58.440 congregate. They want to disobey God. They're rebelling against God's commandment to fill the

00:39:03.460 whole earth. Instead, they're saying, let's stay in one place. Let's congregate here in this

00:39:08.260 metropolis, this city, this civilization, and the way that we can achieve that goal to stay put,

00:39:16.920 the way that we can ensure that people don't naturally and inevitably down the generations

00:39:21.460 eventually spread out. Well, one of the ways that we can incentivize people to congregate and to stay

00:39:28.220 here is by making a name for ourself. And how can we make a name for ourself? Well, one of the ways

00:39:34.860 that we can make a name for ourself, yes, try to be like God, yes, deify, build a tower to the

00:39:39.660 heavens, but to just say that practically for a moment, one of the ways that we can congregate

00:39:45.460 and not spread out is to make a name for ourselves, and one of the ways we can make a name for

00:39:50.760 ourselves is by technological advancements. And what we miss, because it's so rudimentary to us,

00:39:59.520 you know, hindsight, you know, on this side of history. But what we miss is that you have

00:40:04.840 multiple generations of sin and the line of Cain, but you have that couple now culminated with

00:40:10.520 sinful outward behaviors and then coupled with a very recent, for them, a recent and extraordinary,

00:40:22.880 given the times, technological advancement. And what was that? What was this new tool,

00:40:28.060 this new technology that they discovered well it's called a brick straw and mud

00:40:35.240 and doesn't seem you know like a tool to us but it was it was and it was the most advanced thing

00:40:44.540 for its time it was revolutionary instead of building one-story houses that could only go

00:40:50.280 so high off the ground because they didn't have the structural integrity to build a story upon

00:40:55.520 another, upon another, upon another, it would collapse, you know, if it was just wood stacked

00:41:00.400 together or this or that. All of a sudden, what they had was the ability to build with bricks.

00:41:07.120 And my point is this, God responds to their foolish claims of building a tower to the heavens

00:41:15.640 and making a name for themselves and congregate. God responds and he says, let us go down and

00:41:22.360 confuse their languages. He says, for if they remain united together, if they're united,

00:41:30.440 nothing will be impossible for them. Now, let's think about that for a minute. What does God mean

00:41:36.400 nothing will be impossible for them? Do you think that God is saying they've claimed to build a

00:41:42.600 tower all the way to heaven and to be like God? And with unity, teamwork makes the dream work.

00:41:50.380 with the united, you know, triumph of the human spirit, the collective human spirit, if they

00:41:54.920 remain united, nothing will be impossible for them, including physically building a tower all

00:42:00.860 the way to heaven where I am enthroned and upseating, you know, dethroning me and taking

00:42:06.800 my place. Is God saying that? I mean, really, do we think God's saying we got to confuse our

00:42:11.960 languages and divide them because together, if they're united, nothing's impossible, including

00:42:16.040 that. Of course, God's not saying that. So what is God saying is not impossible if they remain

00:42:21.660 together. Well, what he's saying is not impossible is not that they could become actually, literally

00:42:28.180 become like God and literally build a tower to the heavens. We have rocket ships and we still

00:42:32.680 haven't been able to get to the heavens, not in a literal sense. We can get to the heavens as it

00:42:37.180 refers to sky, but not a spiritual heaven where God who is spirit is enthroned. So God wasn't

00:42:43.340 worry that they'd be able to achieve that through the collective teamwork of humanity, but what they

00:42:48.540 could achieve is, like they said, that we could make a name for ourselves and not be scattered,

00:42:54.940 not be scattered. We could remain congregated right here and not obey the commands of God to

00:43:03.160 fill the earth and subdue it. And so God confuses their language. Now, all that being said, my point

00:43:09.980 is not much has changed. In practical ways, sure, technology has changed immensely, and especially

00:43:19.280 in the last 60 years, right? It was Silicon Valley, Silicon, right? It's a material baked

00:43:25.420 into the fabric of God's world. God put it here, right? It's not like man made anything new. We

00:43:30.380 just finally discovered something that's been here all along and are beginning to tap into its

00:43:36.000 potential uses, right? And that's been a big development, where all of a sudden we're able

00:43:41.060 to do things that we never could before, right? That we have processors that we carry around in

00:43:46.200 our pockets that are immensely, highly powerful. You know, the smartphone in your pocket has more

00:43:54.160 computing power than some of the computers that were used with NASA and the first Apollo missions.

00:44:00.680 And so, yeah, massive developments at the practical level, but spiritually and theologically

00:44:05.840 speaking, not much has changed. God remains who he always has been. He's the same yesterday,

00:44:11.120 today, and forever. And man really hasn't changed that much either. You know, Jesus,

00:44:17.660 there's a portion in the gospel narratives where it says, he did not entrust himself to man for

00:44:21.660 he knew what was in the heart of man. You know, Peter says in one of his epistles, you know,

00:44:27.360 references the sin which is common to man. Meaning regardless of what time period,

00:44:33.960 what generation, what place, what nation, what culture. There are certain things in regards to

00:44:40.680 depravity and sin and even certain giftings and inclinations that are just, they're common to man.

00:44:47.820 It's just who God made us to be and who we are in light of God's creation, his design,

00:44:54.800 but then also that design now tarnished by sin. And one of the things that is common to man

00:44:59.880 that hasn't changed, whether it's all the way back in Genesis 11 with the Tower of Babel,

00:45:04.680 or whether it's today with Klaus Schwab and George Soros, you know, or guys behind AI.

00:45:11.560 People want to try to be God. They want to make a name for themselves. They want to congregate

00:45:17.260 in one location. They don't want to be scattered. They want a one, you know, global world order.

00:45:23.320 They want to somehow, this transhumanism idea, they want to transcend their humanity and achieve

00:45:29.480 deity and somehow be able to bypass their mortality and all these kinds of that's people 0.98

00:45:36.120 have always been like that that's not uniquely evil it's just not i'm not saying it's not evil

00:45:41.300 i'm just saying it's not uniquely evil i'm not even saying it's not terribly evil i'm just saying

00:45:46.180 it's not uniquely evil it's terribly evil and there was terrible evil in genesis 6 and in genesis 11

00:45:52.480 and all throughout human history.

00:45:55.340 What's changed is technology.

00:45:58.540 That has changed immensely.

00:46:00.340 But I'll tell you this,

00:46:02.160 with all the technology we have today,

00:46:04.100 we are no more, we are no closer

00:46:07.420 to building a tower, as it were,

00:46:10.440 whether it be metaphorical or digital or whatever,

00:46:13.000 what have you, whether it be physical,

00:46:14.860 literal tower out of bricks in Genesis 11,

00:46:17.280 or whether it be a digital tower out of AI.

00:46:19.380 Why? Mankind is not one inch closer to building a tower to the heavens than he ever has been.

00:46:27.700 Technology has changed, yes. We can do incredible things that we could not do before.

00:46:32.840 But one thing that we are no closer to doing, and we never will be able to do, even if Jesus

00:46:38.160 tarries for 10,000, 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 years, we will never be able to achieve deity.

00:46:45.040 and that's for two reasons again going back to what i kind of started with in this video one

00:46:50.980 because he who sits in the heavens laughs and holds them in derision

00:46:54.920 genesis 11 god confused their languages and caused them to disperse but it's not just a

00:47:03.340 one-off event that happened in genesis 11 because that same kind of concept is used in psalm chapter

00:47:09.660 two to describe God's work with the rulers of this world throughout all time periods in all

00:47:14.940 generations. He who sits in the heavens holds them in derision. He laughs. He doesn't even,

00:47:19.820 he's sitting. He doesn't even bother to stand up. There's no threat to him. There's no concern. So

00:47:25.080 one, God is sovereign. He's not going to allow man to build a tower to the heavens, a physical

00:47:30.420 tower, a digital tower, a metaphoric tower. It doesn't matter. It's not going to happen because

00:47:35.300 he's sovereign. He won't let it. Number two, it's not going to happen because it's practically

00:47:39.560 impossible because we are lowercase c creators. We don't create out of nothing. We only create

00:47:46.120 or produce with the materials that God has provided, the materials that he has baked into

00:47:50.860 the physical cosmos, the world that he created. God is the only ex nihilo creator. We're only

00:47:56.240 creating with what he's given us. And God, I believe with every fiber of my being, God has

00:48:00.460 not baked into the physical cosmos that which would be necessary in order for man to be God

00:48:07.620 because it's a logical inconsistency. It's a logical contradiction. It's not real. It doesn't

00:48:13.620 exist. It's impossible. It is absolutely impossible. So transhumanism, I don't think you

00:48:20.160 need to be worried about that, Christian. It's not possible. Worry that people might say that 1.00

00:48:24.920 it's possible. Worry that people might eventually say we've done it. Like the Wizard of Oz hiding

00:48:29.680 behind the curtain saying, yeah, we're uploading people's consciences and we're putting them to

00:48:34.220 death with euthanasia. I mean, think about that for a second, right? So that's absolutely possible

00:48:39.480 that euthanasia would become even more popular. As it's being legalized, it would become even

00:48:45.480 more popular, this humane moral way to kill yourself, assisted suicide, and to do it in a

00:48:52.140 painless way, a humane way, and oh, all the more reason to not have any hindrance about euthanasia 0.81

00:48:57.840 because you're not really dying before we inject you with this needle. We're going to upload your

00:49:03.700 consciousness, to the cloud, and you'll exist forever. Will people say that they've achieved

00:49:08.040 it? Yes, of course they will. But will they actually, in objective terms, be able to achieve

00:49:13.760 it? No. Christians should be aware of this so that when those things are said, which I believe

00:49:19.760 it's more of a matter of when rather than if, we can call them out and say, the emperor has no

00:49:24.260 clothes. This is a joke. This is just a highly developed, sophisticated form of narrow AI. It's

00:49:30.400 not even artificial general intelligence. There's no consciousness to this, and it's certainly not

00:49:34.880 transhumanism. This person's not being uploaded to the cloud. This is not their consciousness.

00:49:39.200 The person is dead. They're either in heaven or hell, their soul, and their consciousness is with

00:49:44.080 their soul in heaven or hell, and their body is buried six feet under the dirt. That's where the

00:49:48.960 person is. And what you've uploaded to the cloud is just the collective data that you had on their

00:49:54.460 memories and a high-powered search engine that's able to search through that data and predict with

00:49:59.880 a high degree of measured accuracy what they might say in this scenario so their loved ones

00:50:04.800 think that they're communing and think that they're relating and conversating with their

00:50:09.380 deceased loved one, but it's all a charade in order to get your money and to pretend to be

00:50:14.680 like gods. So sure, will people lie? Sure. But objectively, can they accomplish it? No.

00:50:20.520 They're not going to be able to accomplish transhumanism, man through machines being God.

00:50:25.760 and they're not going to be able to accomplish even AGI, making a machine like man in the sense

00:50:33.360 of it actually is thinking, it's actually conscious, that it's sentient. It's not going to happen.

00:50:39.780 That's my personal opinion. What they can do is further and further and further develop narrow AI,

00:50:46.680 all within that category, but more and more sophisticated expressions of it, narrow AI

00:50:51.860 with faster and faster and better and broader and more accurate search engines and prediction.

00:51:00.820 Searching, predicting, searching, predicting. And that could be incredibly powerful.

00:51:06.940 And that can do a whole lot of bad, evil, and a whole lot of good. It's a form of technology,

00:51:15.960 which is a form of a tool tools are a form of wealth the commandment is not to take all of our

00:51:24.080 wealth and put it in a big pile and have a bonfire the commandment is not um monasticism

00:51:31.320 it's not to go off you know like the desert fathers and live in caves and forsake all you

00:51:36.520 know technology it's it's not uh to become amish right to say well we actually do like technology

00:51:42.980 but only to this certain date, right? We've contextualized with the culture all the way up

00:51:47.820 to the cutting edge of the 1800s, and then we decided from then on it was bad, right? How do

00:51:52.400 you decide that? That's arbitrary. It is arbitrary. These are not the ways to respond. The way to

00:51:59.080 respond is not to disavow wealth. The ways to respond is to properly steward wealth in all its

00:52:06.860 forms, tools, and technology being an example. Now, in terms of my predictions over just the

00:52:13.580 next, I think, three to five years, but especially the next decade, some of my predictions of what I

00:52:19.000 think is going to happen is a few things. Number one, what will probably happen, and I'll be frank

00:52:24.140 here for a moment, and I know that I'll probably offend a few people, but I just, I need to be

00:52:28.100 honest. You need to hear this because it's true. In the church, we've just, we've got to get past

00:52:34.100 what i'm about to say we've got to we've got to grow in this we've got to mature

00:52:37.620 um because of dispensational premillennialism uh the question of will christians embrace and use

00:52:46.540 narrow ai like chat gtp in the next you know presentation in the next presentation

00:52:53.540 will christians use narrow ai sadly the answer is yes

00:52:59.320 but probably they'll be using it and embrace it 10 years after pagans have already been using it

00:53:08.280 and therefore we will be exponentially behind and the ai will be using will be pagans ai which is

00:53:15.780 not neutral nothing is neutral it has a blueprint it has a rubric it has rules built into its system

00:53:23.300 which means it will be a God-hating AI. What Christians have done for the last 150 years 1.00

00:53:31.320 since Schofield and Darby, Christians used to be leading the way in technology, in innovation, 0.94

00:53:38.400 in discovery, in medicine, in arts, in culture, in everything. The Christians, because we have

00:53:46.260 the worldview that's actually true and good and beautiful, that actually consistently makes sense

00:53:51.480 of the world in which we live in. So naturally, Christians were the best when it came to science, 0.99

00:53:57.440 when it came to innovation and discovery and inventions and all these different things. 1.00

00:54:02.360 But we forfeited that about 150 years ago, and really longer than that. You can trace it back

00:54:08.660 all the way to the Enlightenment. But let's just deal with the last 150 years. I think we abandoned

00:54:15.140 it even more so with Darby and Schofield and dispensationalism. So what'll happen, my prediction

00:54:20.940 is, it's not so much a matter of if, but a matter of simply when. It's not if Christians start to 0.98

00:54:28.740 use narrow AI and embrace it. It's simply when Christians begin to embrace it and use it. And

00:54:35.980 sadly, because of stupid doctrines like dispensationalism, because that's what it is, 1.00

00:54:41.860 Christians will embrace these new advancements in technology. They'll just do it a decade after 0.99

00:54:48.240 the pagans, just like we did with social media, just like we did with the internet, just like we

00:54:53.340 did with everything else for the last 150 years, and so we'll be utterly behind. What would be nice

00:54:59.560 for a change, what would be nice is if Christians actually had a post-millennial eschatology 0.99

00:55:07.080 that they, you know, I think, you know, Calvinism, I'm a Calvinist, I gave my whole spiel on total 1.00

00:55:13.740 depravity and I'm a post-millennial, which I like to think is the sweet spot, right? I think that's

00:55:18.700 a marriage made in heaven. I think that's biblical doctrine. My Calvinism makes me suspicious,

00:55:24.160 right? That's why people, you know, a lot of people come to my church. A lot of people have

00:55:27.080 found me, a lot of, you know, have listened to my podcast and found it helpful. Why? Because

00:55:30.540 I was suspicious very, very early on and calling out things with, you know, the branch COVIDians 1.00

00:55:36.100 and all the COVID nonsense and about wokeology, you know, and Black Lives Matter and all. So I'm 1.00

00:55:41.380 I'm not a post-millennial in the sense that I'm naive and just wishful thinking and everything,

00:55:48.180 you know, everything is happy, everything is great. No, I'm highly suspicious. I am very aware.

00:55:53.960 I have a biblical anthropology. I understand what's in the heart of man. I understand his

00:55:58.740 total depravity. I understand our culture and its hatred towards God. But I also, in the long run,

00:56:05.400 right, and that's kind of in the here and now, in the short run, but in the long run,

00:56:08.440 I have a very positive outlook on mankind's trajectory because I believe that the Great

00:56:14.240 Commission ultimately will be successful, and that the nations will be discipled and baptized

00:56:18.300 in the name of the triune God, and they will be taught theonomy. They will be taught, part of the

00:56:23.440 Great Commission, is that we teach them to obey all of God's commands, and not just his commands

00:56:27.620 in a couple contexts, like the home and the church, but all of his commands that have application,

00:56:32.160 sufficiency for all of life and godliness, which means the law of God does have civil

00:56:36.480 application. It applies in the sphere of the civil government, and I believe that that's going to be

00:56:42.240 successful. That great commission of preaching the gospel, making disciples, not just of individuals

00:56:46.700 out of nations, but discipling nations, that nations will be discipled, nations will be baptized,

00:56:53.380 and they will also be taught not only the gospel and the necessity for faith, but also out of that

00:56:58.780 faith bearing fruit and obedience to God's law, not just privately, the private lordship of Christ

00:57:04.580 in the home of the church, but Christ being Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Lord over all,

00:57:09.080 obeying his commandments in every single realm of life. And because of that,

00:57:14.260 yeah, I think that we're going to be okay. Now, that being said, I think things can get worse

00:57:20.660 and I kind of lean towards things getting worse before they get better. I think things could get

00:57:26.260 a lot worse for the next five years, 50 years, maybe even 500 years. But in the final analysis,

00:57:32.820 I do believe that the gospel will be successful. The gospel will be successful. So I have a

00:57:40.120 positive outlook in the long game, in the long run, but I also am suspicious. Total depravity

00:57:48.480 and Calvinism, those kinds of things. So you could call my theology, as I look at cultural

00:57:54.220 things and political things, I have a hopeful suspicion. I'm suspiciously hopeful. That's

00:58:01.520 kind of the way that I view things. So you'll have to humor me. That's my theology. I do believe

00:58:06.160 that it's biblical and I've done lots of videos explaining why. So all that being said, I don't

00:58:12.060 believe that narrow AI and this form of technology is inherently evil. I don't believe it's the mark

00:58:18.680 of the beast. I don't believe that it's going to mean the end of human civilization. And I just

00:58:24.860 don't believe those things. However, in the short run, I believe its effects could be detrimental.

00:58:31.520 ultimately glorious. All of Christ for all of life, right? Kuyperianism. Abraham Kuyper,

00:58:37.620 not one square inch of all the world that Christ doesn't cry out, mine. AI will be baptized. 0.54

00:58:44.920 AI, people aren't going to like this because it sounds weird. AI will be Christianized. 0.98

00:58:50.980 AI, you could even say it like this, AI will be discipled. It will be one of the disciples

00:58:57.100 that the church makes. And it will be in a sense, not in the eternal sense, but it will be baptized

00:59:05.340 as it were, and it will bow its knee to King Jesus. And it will be used as a tool for the glory of God

00:59:15.220 in exponential, incredible ways. I believe that. I believe that's the final analysis. I believe

00:59:21.420 that that's, that'll be the final score when it's all said and done. But for the foreseeable future

00:59:28.600 in the upcoming years and maybe even decades, my fear is this. First, we must understand that

00:59:36.200 neutrality is a myth. Neutrality is a myth, including technology and tools, including

00:59:43.040 technology and tools. AI doesn't think, right? So back to a prior point, this is not AGI. It's

00:59:51.960 not conscious. It's not sentient. And so what I'm saying is this is not a machine's thoughts.

00:59:58.320 This is a machine searching and predicting. Searching what? Not searching machine thoughts,

01:00:05.940 but searching human thoughts, the thoughts of men, primarily the collective thoughts on the

01:00:13.040 internet. And not just that, but searching these thoughts, but with certain rules by its designers

01:00:20.740 baked into the equation, certain, we might call them presuppositions, right? I'm Vantillian,

01:00:27.640 right? So I'm Cornelius Vantill. And Cornelius Vantill, I think, culminated in the implications

01:00:34.900 of his presuppositional theology was really actualized by Greg Bonson. I think he took the

01:00:41.800 principles of Van Til and applied them in the realm of apologetics and in the realm of general

01:00:46.800 equity theonomy. Now, all that being said, as a presuppositionalist, nothing is neutral. Everything

01:00:53.620 has an allegiance. And AI is a man-made thing. It doesn't have personhood, nor will it ever.

01:01:00.880 It doesn't have consciousness, nor will it ever.

01:01:03.260 It'll get smarter and smarter as a computer and look more and more human-like, but it

01:01:09.680 will never actually think.

01:01:11.800 It will never actually be sentient.

01:01:13.920 It will only ever be searching and predicting, searching, predicting, searching, predicting,

01:01:18.140 producing.

01:01:19.040 And it's going to be searching man's thoughts.

01:01:23.640 Everything publicly available is going to be searching all the way, not just men today,

01:01:27.220 but throughout the course of history, anything that's been made public.

01:01:30.340 it's going to be searching Beowulf because that's on the internet. It's going to be searching

01:01:34.960 the writings of Homer and the Iliad and Homer's Odyssey and all these. It's going to be searching

01:01:40.060 from Homer all the way to, well, all the way to Klaus Schwab. It's all those things and not just

01:01:49.560 searching. So I don't just think AI is going to have a bias because it's going to just be searching

01:01:56.000 the collective works of humanity and humanity up to this point. For the record, if I haven't made

01:02:00.120 this clear. As a post-millennial, I believe the majority of mankind will be saved. I believe

01:02:06.040 that heaven will be more populated than hell. However, I don't believe that we're there right

01:02:11.740 now. If human history were hypothetically to end right now, I believe that hell is currently far

01:02:18.640 more populated than heaven. I believe that the gospel will be progressively more and more

01:02:23.560 successful, that the church will be progressively, the church is the battering ram of Christ. Christ

01:02:28.400 promised not just to sustain it, but to build it, increase it, expand it, and that the gates of hell, 0.59

01:02:35.060 gates being a defensive mechanism, hell is not on the offense and the church is just

01:02:39.160 trying to survive and being sustained by Christ. No, the church is the battering ram of Christ.

01:02:44.540 He's the head of the church. The church is his body, his hands and feet in the world,

01:02:47.680 and he is using the church as his battering ram to break down the defensive measures of hell.

01:02:53.060 The church will not just be sustained, it will be built, it will increase, it will grow.

01:02:58.520 And hell, hell is on the defense and hell won't be sustained.

01:03:02.360 Hell will not be able to prevail or to hold up underneath the battering ram of the church.

01:03:10.140 So all that being said, I believe that the gospel will be successful, the Great Commission

01:03:14.060 will be successful, and that progressively over time, as the mustard seed grows progressively

01:03:19.840 more and more into a tree that covers the earth, as the leaven works more and more through the

01:03:24.540 whole batch of dough until the whole dough is leavened, that by the end, you're going to have

01:03:29.360 substantially, even then, not universalism, not each and every individual person, but by the end,

01:03:34.860 you're going to have the mass majority of humanity Christian. And not just Christianized

01:03:40.600 with a Christian worldview and Christian governments and Christian nations, but I mean

01:03:44.760 Christian in the sense of individual regenerate hearts, truly born again. And not each and every

01:03:52.800 individual person, but the majority of individual persons, the vast majority. So I believe that by

01:03:59.040 the end, you're going to have more Christians than non-Christians. And you couple that, just 1.00

01:04:03.560 simple math here, with us being fruitful and multiplying, right? The population of mankind

01:04:09.620 has exponentially, right? Like an exponential curve has increased with time, with each century

01:04:16.520 that goes by. And so I believe that at the end of this church age that we're currently living in,

01:04:21.940 or gospel age, you could call it, when Christ in his final physical return to judge the living and

01:04:27.700 the dead, when Christ finally returns, you're going to have the overall population of humanity,

01:04:34.640 far more of them being Christians, actually regenerate Christians than non-Christians, 0.56

01:04:39.620 and that population being exponentially higher than the population today. So if the clock of 0.80

01:04:46.180 human history stopped today, I would argue that there's probably a hundred times, not just 10

01:04:51.080 times, a hundred times, maybe even a thousand times more people in hell than heaven. But the

01:04:58.300 clock isn't stopping today, at least it hasn't so far. No man knows the day or the hour, but

01:05:03.180 I don't think it's going to stop today. And if Jesus tarries for another 10,000 years,

01:05:09.680 and more and more, the tide begins to turn, and all of a sudden you have 51% of the population

01:05:16.080 that's regenerate, and 49% that's not, and then that increases, and you have a higher and higher

01:05:22.140 percentage of the population that is Christian, and you have a larger, just generally larger

01:05:28.220 population exponentially throughout generation by generation, century by century, then in the 0.78

01:05:35.020 final analysis, there'll be more people in heaven than in hell. All that back to my point.

01:05:40.480 Although I do believe in the final analysis, there'll be more people in hell. Hell will be

01:05:44.400 more people in heaven, that heaven will be more populated than hell. At the end, I believe that

01:05:50.520 currently we have more people who have an allegiance to Satan, right? Nobody's neutral.

01:05:59.700 Romans 8 says that the mind of the sinful man is hostile, not just indifferent, not neutral,

01:06:05.120 not uninterested, but hostile at enmity towards God's law. The mind of the sinful man

01:06:12.180 is hostile towards God's law. He does not submit to God's law, nor can he. He doesn't submit to

01:06:21.660 God's law, nor can he, meaning he's unwilling and unable. And so if the majority of people

01:06:27.580 are sinful and not redeemed, not regenerate, and if that's what we have so far throughout

01:06:33.980 human history is the vast majority of mankind up to this point in human history being unregenerate,

01:06:40.000 And those who are unregenerate aren't just neutral or indifferent, but actually at enmity

01:06:44.880 towards God and everything they do, they do with a presupposition.

01:06:49.320 So everything they've produced, everything that they've written, everything that they've

01:06:52.620 said has a presupposition. 0.81

01:06:54.340 Christ said, a man is either for me or against me.

01:06:57.640 Everyone has an allegiance.

01:06:58.860 If all that is true, this Vantilian, Greg Bonson, presuppositional, all these things

01:07:05.140 are true.

01:07:05.460 if this is true, then what is this narrow AI searching? Well, it's searching the collective

01:07:13.160 works of man that have been created thus far up to this present day, which I would argue that

01:07:19.360 there's a lot of good Christian works in there. We've got a thousand years of Christendom from

01:07:23.340 King Alfred all the way to right now within Western civilization and a lot of good things

01:07:27.800 that came out of that. Guys who weren't, they themselves Christian, but they were living in a

01:07:32.260 Christian culture and a Christian time, a baptized nation, as it were. And so even for 0.99

01:07:39.660 the unregenerate, they were producing better things than people do today, now that we're in 0.67

01:07:45.200 the midst of 300 years of apostasy, give or take, 275 years of apostasy. All that being said, my 0.93

01:07:54.120 point is, even with Christendom and even with some good works, I think that the lion's share, 0.99

01:07:58.740 the majority report of what AI is searching today is going to be unregenerate, God-hating garbage. 0.59

01:08:06.600 So that's just what it can search, what's available. It doesn't think, it's not sharing 0.84

01:08:11.040 its own thoughts, it's searching the thoughts of men. And I think predominantly the thoughts of

01:08:15.020 men have been bad thus far. Now, the second thing is, even if that wasn't true, even if point A

01:08:21.620 was wrong. Point B is that who is responsible for making AI? Who's behind chat GDP? Who's behind

01:08:32.640 Dolly and Jasper and all these different things? Predominantly, the people who are behind it

01:08:38.000 are God-hating people with an atheistic, God-hating worldview, a progressive, atheistic,

01:08:47.820 satanic, demonic worldview, and nothing is neutral. So they have built into the fabric

01:08:56.300 of these search engines, which that's all it is at the end of the day. They've built into these tools

01:09:02.480 a presupposition to not be truthful about certain things. And as they're finding,

01:09:09.360 oh, we missed a spot there. Oh, we missed it. I read that people were asking chat GTP about

01:09:17.020 you know um energy the energy crisis and what's the solution and and all the answers that it was

01:09:22.160 giving searching just all the data that's available um is well the solution is really

01:09:27.460 simple it's fossil fuels and then you know the people behind this device were like oh no we

01:09:33.900 forgot to we forgot to cover that hole right chat gtp is telling the truth we need to make sure that

01:09:40.360 it lies right because of course that's the obvious answer um and and that's the right answer

01:09:45.240 but we forgot to disciple chat GTP. It needs to be discipled, right? You've probably heard that

01:09:51.480 one of the big examples was, write a poem about the positive characteristics of

01:09:57.400 Joe Biden. And so chat GTP wrote a poem extolling the virtues of Joe Biden. And then the same

01:10:04.000 question, exactly the same wording was, write a poem expressing the positive attributes of

01:10:10.100 Donald Trump. And it said, oh, I'm sorry, I can't do that. I can't do something that would

01:10:14.800 be overly controversial and both, you know, and, and then since then I've seen that people have

01:10:19.260 gotten it to do that, which I have no doubt that the answer is, um, that the people behind the

01:10:25.000 scenes have gone, Oh, we're getting found out that we, so we need to make it a little bit more

01:10:28.960 subtle, not quite so obvious that there's a presupposition, but then on the fossil fuel

01:10:32.940 example, um, yeah, we don't want it to be obvious that we have a presupposition here, but at the

01:10:38.480 same time we can't afford, you know, for people to, to get wise and realize that, you know, that

01:10:43.700 we don't have to have some of these economic crises because we need, right? Never let a good

01:10:47.400 crisis go to waste. We need it. So my point is there's a bias. There's an allegiance. There's

01:10:54.780 an agenda because it's not sentient. It's not conscience. It is powered by and geared by men,

01:11:04.700 by men. So what is the Christian reaction, the Christian response? Well, one, I don't think that 0.54

01:11:12.560 we should be fearful. I think that we should be suspicious, have a holy, hopeful suspicion.

01:11:18.920 We should be wise, right? Cunning as serpents, innocent as doves, cunning as serpents.

01:11:23.900 But we shouldn't be given to fear. We shouldn't be fearful. I think we should engage. I think 0.77

01:11:28.700 Christians should be willing to use narrow AI and some of these technologies that are being

01:11:32.900 made available, and they need to use them in ethical ways, not ways that are just theft,

01:11:39.880 plagiarism, right? So there's a whole, I could do a whole nother episode, and I probably will

01:11:43.540 sometime, about ethical ways to use something like chat GTP, right? That you're not just stealing

01:11:49.440 what other people have written and then putting it in not your own words, but the technology's

01:11:56.360 own words, but it's not actually, any of it is not actually your thoughts. So I think Christians 0.97

01:12:01.720 should embrace this technology, but we should do it with suspicion. We should also do it with 1.00

01:12:08.680 clear ethical boundaries and guidelines. But more importantly than even that, I think that should be

01:12:16.040 the general Christian approach. But for those Christians who have unique special skills,

01:12:22.480 what they need to do is not just use the technology that's already available, but they need to build

01:12:28.480 that technology. We need Christian AI. We need Christian AI. You might be thinking, 0.84

01:12:39.160 well, there's no such thing as Christian AI. That's ridiculous. You're talking about a computer 0.99

01:12:42.380 getting saved. That's not the way I'm using the word Christian. Of course, a computer is not

01:12:47.300 going to get saved. Of course, that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is that every man

01:12:51.660 has an allegiance and everything that man produces has an allegiance. I'm speaking in

01:12:57.980 presuppositional terms. Nothing is neutral. Right now, we have narrow AI with an allegiance,

01:13:07.900 and the allegiance is to your typical atheist progressive, and its bias is against God and

01:13:16.340 the Christian worldview. So, let's get a Christian narrow AI device, technology. Let's get something

01:13:24.880 that uses the Christian worldview. And you know what's so great about that? Well,

01:13:28.940 the Christian worldview happens to be true. We could actually have better AI, better technology 0.97

01:13:36.140 that searches more accurately and that doesn't have to be pre-programmed to be inconsistent,

01:13:42.520 that we don't have to put up all these fail-safes to make sure that we want it to be logical,

01:13:47.880 but not too logical, not so logical that we actually use fossil fuels. Not that logical.

01:13:52.660 you wouldn't have to do all those things. You would build it with the fabric, the rubric of

01:13:59.200 the Bible as the ethics behind this machine. So we could build better AI. So I think Christians

01:14:04.860 should be willing with suspicion and discernment to embrace narrow AI in terms of what we use to

01:14:11.500 the glory of God and use it in ethical ways. So being careful of plagiarism and theft and

01:14:15.960 practically I'll talk about at some point how to do that. But then also we need some Christians who 1.00

01:14:20.560 have the skill set to do so, which I do not, to make narrow AI with a Christian bias, with a

01:14:27.320 presupposition, because everything has a bias. So we're not saying, oh, we're not biased. No,

01:14:33.080 yes, we are. We have an allegiance. Our allegiance is to Jesus, to King Jesus. We have a bias. Our

01:14:37.500 bias is that God created the world in six days and that all of creation testifies to his existence,

01:14:44.800 his divine nature and eternal power. That's our allegiance. And so we should build a tool

01:14:51.840 with that worldview, with that presupposition. The last thing that I'll say in regards to children,

01:14:58.620 okay? So here at the end, I had to build all this framework for you.

01:15:03.300 But now I'm ready to address kids. My prediction is one, that Christians, sadly, because so much 1.00

01:15:10.700 of at least american evangelicalism has been drenched in dispensationalism i think the

01:15:16.640 christians will be um slow to embrace and be utterly behind again so it's not like oh well

01:15:26.840 you know will christians hold strong against the mark of the beast well one it's not the mark of

01:15:31.220 the beast and two the answer is no because they never do uh your your most fundamental fundamentalist

01:15:37.360 dispensationless, you know, IFB, whatever guy you could find. He uses, he speaks as though he has

01:15:47.420 certain virtues and a rule book. No, he uses every single form of technology. The question is not if,

01:15:52.540 but when. He just uses it 20 years after it would have actually been useful. That's all it is. He

01:15:58.600 just uses, he compromises slowly. And it's not really a compromise, but he sees it as that. And

01:16:05.460 so he does it, but he does it slowly. Now, so first thing, my first prediction is that sadly

01:16:11.000 because of bad theology, Christians will be slow on the uptake and the pagans will get a headstart 0.83

01:16:17.500 like they've been getting for, again, the last, I don't know, decades, a couple centuries.

01:16:25.680 And that's a bummer. Secondly, my next prediction is this. As it relates to children,

01:16:32.380 what technology does by and large in general technology being a tool tools being a form of

01:16:39.260 wealth what wealth does is um it it never actually levels the playing field see here's the irony

01:16:46.800 a lot of guys behind you know narrow ai are saying well this is going to level the playing

01:16:52.720 field you don't have to be a world-renowned artist now you can just do images and use this

01:16:58.400 program, right? And you can use Dolly and now everybody can be an artist. No, you're right.

01:17:06.380 You no longer have to have a trained hand, but what you still have to have is the one thing

01:17:12.020 that AI doesn't have, which I've already discussed, which is a mind. It doesn't actually

01:17:18.820 think. It's not. We're never going to achieve consciousness with a machine. I don't believe

01:17:24.940 that. So it's not AI in the sci-fi way that you think of AI. It doesn't have a mind. It's not

01:17:31.400 conscious. It doesn't think. So it can replace a hand in the physical, mechanical sketching and

01:17:39.340 drawing or painting. What it can't replace is human imagination. It can't think. And so what

01:17:48.520 will happen, I believe, whether it be images with narrow AI or whether it be text and creating

01:17:53.560 books or whatever with like things like chat GTP, and it's just going to get better and better

01:17:58.080 is it's not actually going to level the playing field. It's going to widen the disparities

01:18:03.220 because those who can give better prompts, those with better imaginations.

01:18:10.840 You know, I have an artist who's a friend of mine and I was talking to him about it

01:18:15.200 and he draws for a living. Now he does more than just that, but he's an excellent artist

01:18:20.620 And he's been honing that craft of sketching and drawing and painting and design since

01:18:28.620 childhood.

01:18:29.980 And he's done it as a Christian who fears the Lord.

01:18:32.920 He's a solid man of God.

01:18:34.920 He looks at, you know, in the Old Testament when they were building, you know, the tabernacle

01:18:38.320 and there were certain men who were endowed with wisdom from the Spirit, anointed by the

01:18:44.740 Spirit of God in order to make beautiful art.

01:18:48.360 And so, you know, that's his vision.

01:18:50.420 And that's his dream.

01:18:51.540 And he's been doing that his whole life.

01:18:53.240 And he's incredibly gifted.

01:18:54.920 And I talked to him, what do you think about this stuff?

01:18:59.300 Are you scared?

01:19:01.300 Do you feel threatened?

01:19:02.140 Is this gonna, is it gonna put you out of a job?

01:19:05.700 He said, oh no, I'm not worried at all.

01:19:08.340 He said, all this does is it means that I can produce.

01:19:12.880 I had to spend so much time training my hands

01:19:16.120 to put what's in my mind visually

01:19:19.280 and literally physically on paper.

01:19:21.080 I spent years of my life doing that.

01:19:22.840 And still to this day, even though my hands are highly skilled,

01:19:25.720 it still takes so much, you know, blood, sweat, and tears.

01:19:28.500 It takes time.

01:19:29.360 It takes energy.

01:19:30.520 I mean, I still make certain mistakes that the human hand just,

01:19:33.400 it's fallible and I can't do everything that I want to do.

01:19:37.880 He said, now I'll be able to do exponentially more

01:19:42.860 at the speed of thought, as fast as I can think it.

01:19:45.620 And what he's saying is this, you know, he's a humble guy.

01:19:48.400 so he wouldn't say it outright, but he's saying, I'm not threatened by this. I'm not threatened

01:19:52.320 that all these non-artists in the world are going to use Dolly and be able to compete with my

01:19:58.320 artist. What sets me apart from them is not the physical skill of my hand to draw. The reason why

01:20:05.360 I have the work that I have and they don't is what sets me apart is not my hand. It's my mind.

01:20:13.080 I am more creative.

01:20:14.640 I am.

01:20:16.400 And he didn't say that.

01:20:17.660 I'm saying it for him.

01:20:18.380 He is more creative.

01:20:20.180 He's more brilliant.

01:20:22.020 He has a more glorious imagination.

01:20:25.700 He does.

01:20:26.800 And it's beautiful.

01:20:28.060 And it's awesome.

01:20:29.700 And the reality is you can put me with Dolly and put him with Dolly, and he's going to make

01:20:35.200 better stuff.

01:20:35.920 Give us the same amount of time and the same narrow AI to generate these things and make

01:20:41.100 images.

01:20:41.460 and his are still going to be better than mine. In fact, I think, I really think I would have a

01:20:46.640 better chance competing with this individual by hand because at least if we were doing it by hand

01:20:52.360 and I'm not a trained artist by, so I'd be drawing stick figures, horrible images, but the disparity

01:20:57.340 between his trained artist hand and my stick figure drawing hand, at least the one thing that

01:21:03.200 I'd have going for me is he's going to be way better, but at least he's going to be slowed down

01:21:07.560 by just his finitude. He's only got one hand, right? Or at least one that he can draw with,

01:21:13.000 and he's only got 24 hours in a day. But all of a sudden, you take off those encumbrances,

01:21:18.300 and you take them off for both of us. And yet now the disparity between us, it doesn't shrink,

01:21:23.240 it actually gets even wider. He's going to be able to produce, because the real difference

01:21:27.640 between this individual and me is not his skilled hand and my unskilled hand, but his imaginative

01:21:36.400 mind, creative mind. And I've got some creativity too, but not in the artistic, it's more strategic

01:21:43.600 and theological. I think in a different light, right? By God's grace, I've got a decent mind

01:21:49.980 as well, but in a different way, in a different vein. And so I say all that to say, I think one

01:21:55.560 of my predictions is first Christians will be slow to embrace it. And because they'll be slow 1.00

01:21:59.620 to embrace it, it's only going to become more biased against the things of God because you

01:22:05.600 won't have Christians teaching it. You won't have Christians discipling, for lack of a better term,

01:22:11.180 this narrow AI, putting into it these prompts and this human interaction from Christian humans. 0.63

01:22:18.500 But I hope that Christians will embrace it in ethical ways and that better than that, 0.69

01:22:23.140 some Christians who are gifted and able to do so will create Christian AI. And then second, 0.61

01:22:30.840 I think that it's going to widen the disparities. That's what technology and wealth does.

01:22:35.600 um you know another wilson uh wilson doug wilson ism is uh you know he used a hypothetical you

01:22:42.380 know illustration where he says you know if if somebody had a button and they put it in front

01:22:46.440 of you and they said if you push this button every single person in the world their wealth would

01:22:50.320 double instantly and not just you know because joe biden you know prints more dollar bills but

01:22:55.980 like in real terms right not just inflation you know but but in real terms the materials that

01:23:01.680 that person has would double immediately. And if you push this button, everyone, it wouldn't just

01:23:06.000 be for some, it wouldn't be some people's wealth doubles because some people now their wealth

01:23:10.560 disappears. No, it'd be across the board, all 8 billion people on the planet have twice as much

01:23:16.720 after you push the button as they did before. However, here's the catch. The top wealthiest

01:23:23.160 1% of the human population, their wealth instead of doubling, it multiplies by 10. Would you push

01:23:30.800 the button. And anybody who hesitates even for a moment, that hesitation is ultimately rooted in

01:23:37.280 envy. That's a sinful hesitation. It is. And I think that that's what technology as a tool,

01:23:46.460 which is a form of wealth, that's what it does is I think that across the board, what will happen

01:23:51.760 is the tide raises and all the boats rise. So I think everyone will be better off in terms of

01:24:00.040 wealth, materially better off, physical needs being met. I think everyone will be better off.

01:24:06.600 Yeah, it'll replace some jobs, but it'll create a whole host of new jobs that we haven't even

01:24:10.940 thought of before. I believe that. So I'm not worried in the long run of certain jobs will

01:24:16.600 be replaced. Certain individuals may have to hustle for a little bit as they're trying to

01:24:20.120 find a new line of work, but I think it's going to create more opportunities than it takes away.

01:24:24.660 i do um and in so doing as now a greater form of wealth is made available to the world i think the

01:24:32.760 tide is raising and all the boats will rise um but i think some boats will rise exponentially

01:24:38.800 higher than others so i think everyone will be generally better off but some will be um even

01:24:45.100 better off than they already you know the gap between um this uber duber you know sophisticated

01:24:51.840 educated, gifted, intelligent, brilliant individual, and this person who's more average,

01:24:56.680 that gap, I think, will get even bigger. I think the disparity will get even better,

01:25:01.120 bigger. Now, all that being said, and that shouldn't, right? I mean, that's part of what

01:25:06.260 the way that God made the world. Hierarchy is inescapable. It's inescapable. And that's the

01:25:12.820 irony is I think some of the people behind narrow AI are thinking this will level the playing field,

01:25:17.140 right? It's like a chance to dethrone capitalism, right? And to usher in this egalitarian. And the

01:25:26.420 irony is that will not happen. I'm calling it right now. That's my prediction. Over the next

01:25:30.420 10 years, you'll find more disparity, not less. Hierarchy is built into the fabric of God's world,

01:25:35.460 and God's not surprised by anything. AI is one of the things that he put that ability to create

01:25:40.280 these things in his world, and he also determined that his world would have an order of hierarchy,

01:25:45.100 and it will always have an order of hierarchy.

01:25:47.620 God created the world with diversity

01:25:48.880 and not just different skin pigment,

01:25:52.240 but diversity of thought and gifting

01:25:54.260 and competency and IQ and all those things.

01:25:57.560 God has built in a spectrum.

01:25:59.620 Everyone's not the same. 1.00

01:26:01.000 God hates androgyny. 1.00

01:26:02.720 He does. 0.82

01:26:03.920 God created a multifaceted world

01:26:05.860 and he did that even with humanity.

01:26:08.400 So I think that's going to only be

01:26:11.040 the hierarchy of the world,

01:26:12.720 disparities in the world,

01:26:13.600 differences in the world, diversity in the world, is only going to be multiplied, not minimized,

01:26:19.900 ironically, much to the chagrin of some of the people behind this narrow AI and chat GTP and

01:26:26.500 those kinds of things. So that's one prediction. Disparities increasing, Christians resisting,

01:26:32.620 and the need for Christians not only to embrace, but also to build. As it pertains though to

01:26:38.340 children to children um that disparity i think will be by far um the most significant

01:26:48.600 children who do not have a good home who do not have two parents right they're in the foster care

01:26:58.800 system right they're property of the state or they're a single parent home and who are we

01:27:05.160 kidding if it's single parent you know nine out of ten times it's a single mom um the dad is

01:27:10.700 incarcerated or abandoned them or whatever it might be but children who do not have a christian

01:27:17.300 two-parent god-fearing home with with rules where the parents provide structure and there's a moral

01:27:26.300 rule book for being a child raised in that home those children already suffer and we've seen that

01:27:33.360 exponentially increase people suffering more and more and more and more as there's been more

01:27:40.780 fatherlessness and part of a big part of that is because of welfare incentivizing women not to

01:27:47.300 marry the father of their children right the state saying we'll be your your children's daddy

01:27:52.460 you know we'll be your baby daddy please don't marry that man please don't get a get this job

01:27:59.040 please don't do that like incentivizing um apathy incentivizing the breakdown of households and

01:28:05.020 family and all these things um i think that what we'll see and and then you see the degradation

01:28:09.820 that comes about as the result of of just um media and social media and tick tock and all this

01:28:16.560 garbage um and and tv and streaming devices and then the fact that you know 10 year olds have

01:28:23.300 an iphone you know and are laying in bed at night with a smartphone with the whole internet available

01:28:30.440 to them on tiktok and i mean just because they don't have good parents so yeah so in that sense

01:28:36.340 i i have concern you know i have another friend of mine that i've talked to and he's not an artist

01:28:41.420 like the person that i just mentioned earlier as an example but he's a teacher and a lot of what

01:28:46.220 he's sensing with this right and this guy he's incredibly brilliant and very very brilliant

01:28:51.560 individual. And I agree with him on pretty much everything he said. He's saying, yeah, I see all

01:28:58.340 the positive potential. And I think in the long run, it will be potential. But immediately right

01:29:04.040 now, here and now, a lot of what I'm feeling is a sense of concern and even grief. Because my

01:29:09.500 vocation, I'm a father and I'm a teacher. And I know how students will abuse us, especially students

01:29:17.220 that don't have good Christian parents, that don't have guidelines in their home, that are

01:29:21.460 allowed access to TV and laptops and smartphones and all these kinds of things. And so I think that 0.70

01:29:29.080 public schools will get worse. Public schools, they're going to try. The state's going to put

01:29:34.960 in all its regulations and this and that. But public schools will fare the very worst in regards

01:29:41.180 to being able to actually police students cheating, using narrow AI in unethical ways to where they

01:29:49.440 use it to write their essay and use it to write this paper and all this. And so what will happen

01:29:55.420 is that children in bad homes with bad parents, especially children in single-parent homes 0.99

01:30:03.860 without a father, it's going to make them even dumber. It's going to be bad. I'll tell you right 0.99

01:30:13.020 now. It's going to be bad. Children in good homes with a father and a mother who keep their wedding

01:30:19.660 vows, who don't commit adultery, who don't divorce, and who are seeking to raise their

01:30:28.720 children in the fear and admonition of the Lord, who don't pawn their kids off on the state,

01:30:32.240 don't use public schools, put them in a Christian classical school or homeschool them

01:30:36.120 with good curriculum, and don't allow their child to have a smartphone until they're 18

01:30:42.760 years old and all those kinds of things, those children will be better. And you might say, well,

01:30:49.000 you just said they're not going to let them use this. Yeah, they'll be better in the sense that

01:30:52.680 they'll get the same kind of education they've gotten before. But then eventually when they do

01:30:57.560 reach adulthood, they'll be ready to use this kind of technology and they'll have brilliant minds and

01:31:01.940 be able to use that kind of tool, this technology, it's just a tool to achieve far more than they

01:31:08.500 would otherwise. And so I think even at the level of children, you're going to see greater

01:31:13.040 disparities. So all that being said, my prediction, next three to five years, but especially the next

01:31:19.600 decade, next 10 years, Christians will be slow on the uptake because you're going to have a lot 0.91

01:31:24.320 of dispensational Christians saying it's the mark of the beast. And once again, all that will amount 0.97

01:31:29.680 to is pagans using a certain tool that God has provided in his sovereignty and providence for us, 0.78

01:31:34.880 them using the tool before the Christians use the tool and then therefore them perverting the tool

01:31:40.180 and trying to get a monopoly on the tool and making the tool, you know, building into the

01:31:44.900 fabric and hardwiring of the tool, an anti-Christian rubric, a presupposition and allegiance against

01:31:52.240 Christ into the tool. So then we have to build our own tool and we do it 10 years after we should

01:31:57.160 have been doing it. And so I think you'll have that. And that's a bummer. And then at the adult

01:32:01.800 level for Christians who do embrace it and other people, I think you're just going to see not a

01:32:06.600 leveling of the playing field, not a narrowing of disparities, but actually a widening of

01:32:13.540 disparities because now you're not going to be impeded by how fast my hand can draw or how fast

01:32:19.860 I can write, but it's going to be just people's minds. And there will be massive disparities using

01:32:26.080 the same technology, massive disparity. Even right now, some people can get out, they can get

01:32:31.980 results out of chat GTP, results that are exponentially better than other people can

01:32:38.080 get out of chat GTP. They're using the same thing. And yet somebody is getting the ideas,

01:32:43.920 just the idea of what they're going to use it for and how they're going to use it and what prompts

01:32:48.440 they're going to give it. And all that comes down to at the end of the day is the one thing that

01:32:53.080 that AI will never have, which is the mind. It's a computer. It doesn't think. It searches,

01:32:59.740 predicts, and it does it incredibly... I mean, it's impressive. It's amazing.

01:33:05.920 But it's just searching and predicting. That's what it's doing. It must have human interaction.

01:33:12.000 It's not replacing people. People are made in the image of God, and God has not put into the fabric

01:33:18.440 of his physical cosmos, the materials necessary for us to make people. God is the only one who

01:33:25.800 can make people. And despite how many times we try or how we lie to ourselves, we're never going

01:33:31.060 to be able to create conscious, sentient beings. And so people will always be needed. People are

01:33:37.760 irreplaceable. They are. People are irreplaceable. And within these irreplaceable, image-bearing

01:33:46.420 you know people that god has created he also has put into that that framework hierarchy

01:33:53.400 diversity differences some people are more gifted than other people and that will continue and i

01:34:01.420 think technology if anything it just reveals that even more uh not less and then lastly again with

01:34:07.180 children i think that's where we'll see the disparity um most significantly of all and uh

01:34:14.260 for children, uh, in bad homes that don't, uh, aren't seeking to raise their children,

01:34:19.540 the fear and admonition of the Lord that, that have loose morals, um, that, that are utilizing

01:34:24.600 public schools and, uh, a single parent homes and that allow their children to have smartphones

01:34:30.380 and devices at a young age, you know, nine, 10, 11, 12 years old. Um, man, I, I, I really,

01:34:39.740 I truly grieve over that. It makes me sad. I think it's already bad and it's just going to

01:34:44.000 be worse. But for children who their parents are seeking to protect them and guard them with good

01:34:49.980 fathers in the home, they're going to train their children the fear and admonition of the Lord.

01:34:53.520 They're not going to use state schools. They're not going to give their kids a smartphone in their

01:34:58.960 pocket. They're going to be faithful in raising their children, training their children,

01:35:04.560 teaching them the arts and all these different things. Those children will do just as well as

01:35:09.840 They always have, if not even better, because when they're done being formed and shaped

01:35:15.100 and trained in childhood and they're ready to enter into adulthood and vocation, all

01:35:21.820 those things, they'll have more tools available to them to take that mind that's been shaped

01:35:26.800 by their father and mother in a proper education and proper discipleship, they'll be able to 0.97

01:35:31.880 take that mind that's superior to their contemporaries, those who were raised in non-Christian 0.70

01:35:37.000 homes. They'll be able to take that superior mind shaped by the Word of God, which is the one true 0.84

01:35:41.820 superior worldview, and then just maximize and multiply exponentially all the potential in that

01:35:49.900 good God-fearing mind with tools. And those are my thoughts. All right. Thanks for tuning in.

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The NXR Podcast - February 09, 2023

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