The NXR Podcast - March 24, 2023


BONUS EPISODE - Which One Is Quarrelsome According To Scripture?


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In this episode, I discuss what it means to be quarrelsome, and why we should avoid quarrelsomeness. I discuss the difference between quarrelsome people and those who breed quarrels, and how to deal with them.

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00:01:29.720 All right, all that being said, let's go ahead and hop into our topic for today.
00:01:34.140 Today, I want to talk about what it means, biblically speaking, to be quarrelsome.
00:01:40.280 How does the Bible define quarrelsomeness?
00:01:44.940 I think that there are a lot of accusations that often come towards Christians and especially
00:01:51.580 pastors in regards to their method.
00:01:54.120 but what we find in scripture and i'm going to use a lot of verses to make this argument directly
00:01:59.840 from the bible but i'll start with my basic thesis right out of the gate what we find in
00:02:05.300 scripture predominantly is that what makes an individual quarrelsome is not his method
00:02:10.460 but his message again what makes an individual first and foremost quarrelsome is not his method
00:02:18.100 the tone of his voice or the way that he speaks the how but rather the message the what is he
00:02:26.440 saying something true or is he saying something that is false now the bible does address how we
00:02:33.820 speak the bible does address how we speak but the bible never addresses how we speak over and against
00:02:41.860 or as a greater priority to what we speak the first priority if we're triaging importance in
00:02:49.020 terms of what the scripture teaches it is more important what we say than how we say how we say
00:02:55.600 it matters the bible has something to say about that but first and foremost it is what we say
00:03:01.200 the false teachers that we see in scripture and this is ironic based off of a lot of the
00:03:06.160 common and popular notions that you hear from evangelicals today but what scripture actually
00:03:11.400 teaches is that many of the false teachers are described as being quarrelsome and catch this
00:03:17.920 simultaneously described as having smooth and flattering speech or tickling ears right they're
00:03:28.040 saying what people want to hear and they're speaking in the way that people want to hear it
00:03:34.680 both how they're speaking and what they're speaking both their method and their message
00:03:39.880 is what people want to hear and yet they are described in scripture as being divisive they
00:03:47.020 are described as being those who breed quarrels they are quarrelsome men who slip into households
00:03:55.460 upsetting whole households upsetting and turning dividing people against one another upsetting the
00:04:01.600 house of god the church and they do this with a smooth speech smooth tongue their method is
00:04:09.680 mr rogers nice but their message is poison it may be what the people want to hear it is certainly
00:04:17.060 how they want to hear it but it is not true and it ultimately damns the soul to help so let's go
00:04:24.700 ahead and start with the first verse that we have for today here we go first verse this is titus
00:04:31.740 chapter 3 verses 9 through 11 it says but avoid foolish controversies genealogies dissensions and
00:04:38.600 quarrels about the law for they are unprofitable and worthless as for a person who stirs up
00:04:44.840 division after warning him once and then twice have nothing more to do with him knowing that
00:04:50.060 such a person is warped and sinful he is self-condemned now the first thing that i want
00:04:56.900 to notice here is the things or the topics of discussion that are specifically named that
00:05:04.340 should be avoided because all they do is breed controversies and quarrels and divisions here
00:05:11.140 they are foolish controversies this is what you should avoid foolish controversies genealogies
00:05:18.880 dissensions and quarrels about the law now let me break each one of these down for a moment 0.93
00:05:26.100 because what people will do this is what your typical normie christian big eva gospel coalition
00:05:32.880 following saint is going to do they're going to eisegete their own presupposition what they think
00:05:41.660 each one of these words mean and it won't be anything close to what the author of scripture
00:05:47.560 inspired by the holy spirit actually means avoid foolish controversies you're a progressive
00:05:53.860 christian your typical nice sugar and spice following the good faith debates on the gospel 0.93
00:06:01.000 coalition christian he's going to say foolish controversies uh foolish controversies would be 0.89
00:06:07.520 you know like like uh something like about um the vaccine and whether or not you know it it has 0.95
00:06:15.260 certain uh certain side effects and my myocarditis that could cause somebody to have a random heart
00:06:22.240 attack and drop dead that's a foolish controversy no that's not what the bible is talking about
00:06:27.480 the Bible is not classifying or categorizing an untested experimental drug that sure, yeah, 1.00
00:06:38.200 millions of people have taken, but no one can tell us what the long-term effects are because
00:06:43.780 no one has taken it for years. No one has had this coursing through their bloodstream
00:06:49.020 for a decade. Millions of people have had it for a brief period of time. No one has had it
00:06:54.820 long-term the bible is not saying that pushing back and saying wait a second whoa whoa whoa
00:07:00.500 uh not not only is this vaccine questionable but but vaccine mandates that the government
00:07:06.480 is going to dictate in a machiavellian totalitarian draconian sense what i must
00:07:14.640 put in my body and it has no long-term testing and we are hearing evidence after evidence of
00:07:24.680 side effects i i think that's suspect well that's a that's a foolish controversy no it's not okay
00:07:33.300 genealogies genealogies this is not talking about genealogies in the bible i i highly doubt that
00:07:41.820 the apostle paul underneath the inspiration of the holy spirit writing to titus a son in the faith
00:07:47.460 is saying that the bible should be avoided so this is not talking about the beginning of the
00:07:53.900 book of matthew this is not talking about uh the book of genesis right chapter 11 this is not
00:08:01.580 talking about multiple genealogies that we find inspired by the holy spirit written by the authors
00:08:08.100 of scripture on the pages of the bible these genealogies god not only is saying it's true
00:08:15.180 but god is also saying that it matters that it matters that it that it's tracking
00:08:20.860 the messianic lineage it's tracking the lineage of christ all the way down from the woman eve
00:08:29.420 right that your seed will crush the serpent's head the first promise of the gospel that we
00:08:34.680 receive going all the way from her to the tribe of judah and tamar and all the way to to david
00:08:42.200 as king because he is prophesied to be the son of david all the way down to joseph and mary
00:08:49.780 that's not something that should be avoided scripture is not something to be avoided
00:08:54.680 the genealogies that are mentioned here are speculative there's there they're unprofitable
00:09:02.500 genealogies that we don't have in scripture it's more so certain Jewish traditions that's really
00:09:10.800 myth and legend we're not talking about scripture we're not called to avoid the scripture right
00:09:17.000 next one dissensions that there were certain certain factions between you know this person
00:09:23.960 and that person well okay some of these you know factions and dissensions between certain Jewish
00:09:30.060 rabbis and things like that yeah those things should be avoided and that kind of leads into
00:09:35.100 the very next one quarrels about the law now this is where a lot of evangelicals I think are way
00:09:40.460 off base they would say well you know you're preaching the law of God and we're told to avoid
00:09:46.920 quarrels about the law okay what is the law what is the law in this sense in the context of this
00:09:53.920 text that certain quarrels and arguments about the law of god should be avoided do you think
00:09:59.860 it's talking about um the moral law of god the eternal and immutable transcendent moral law of
00:10:06.520 god the decalogue exodus chapter 20 the 10 commandments let's just go with the sixth
00:10:11.320 commandment for a moment thou shalt not murder do you do you think that if if if there's a serial
00:10:17.800 killer and a christian comes out and says hey he should stop killing people uh do you think that
00:10:25.540 we should respond by saying hey you're a quarrelsome person you're being divisive right now 0.98
00:10:30.360 um you know you're you're quarreling about the law uh no that's no the law in this context is
00:10:38.260 speaking of the Mosaic law, predominantly, primarily speaking of the ceremonial law,
00:10:44.560 the ceremonial rituals that were given to Israel uniquely underneath the Old Covenant for a time,
00:10:50.700 but have now been fulfilled and abrogated by the earthly ministry,
00:10:55.520 namely the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
00:10:59.280 Jesus is our High Priest, not merely in the order of the Levitical order,
00:11:04.520 but in the order of Melchizedek.
00:11:06.000 he is a priest and king forever and he is our perfect and final and eternal forever high priest
00:11:13.120 he is also the perfect sacrifice right by the blood of bulls and goats that God is not pleased
00:11:20.420 with animal sacrifices not in the ultimate sense the blood of bulls and goats would never take
00:11:25.100 away sin is what Hebrews the author to the Hebrews says but Jesus is the lamb of God the perfect
00:11:31.480 sacrifice, perfect forever priest, and final sacrifice, the Lamb of God who takes away the
00:11:37.460 sins of the world. Jesus washes us by his blood and sanctifies us by his word to where we are
00:11:43.640 clean, right? We are clean now. So certain hand washings and washing rituals no longer apply for
00:11:50.820 the New Testament, New Covenant Church. The law that's being spoken of here, what the apostle
00:11:56.500 is saying is get away from these he's talking about judaism a lot of this is about judaism
00:12:01.860 foolish controversies within judaism and certain rabbinical myths and certain genealogies and
00:12:11.160 dissensions within that vein that context and quarrels about the law speaking primarily of the 0.93
00:12:16.480 mosaic law of the the ceremonial law that has been ultimately fulfilled by christ these things
00:12:23.560 are unprofitable and worthless. Now, what your typical evangelical wants to do is say that
00:12:30.040 a theological debate about Arminianism versus Calvinism is quarrelsome, that it's unprofitable
00:12:40.480 and worthless. Now, God's role in saving sinners is not unprofitable and worthless.
00:12:49.160 that's insane and yet people think that this is unprofitable and worthless the bible says to avoid
00:12:57.620 that no the bible doesn't say just avoid arguments period there are some things worth arguing think
00:13:03.780 about that for a moment if if that's the biblical precedent just to avoid all arguments then you
00:13:10.080 can't preach the gospel to unbelievers who hate the gospel because they're going to disagree
00:13:16.540 they're going to push back they're going to argue uh if if if all arguing is inherently sinful then
00:13:24.660 you and i are on our way to hell we're still dead in our sins because the only way we're forgiven
00:13:29.340 is if a sinless savior died as a substitute in our place and jesus is not sinless if all arguing
00:13:36.860 is inherently sinful because jesus engaged in argument he did jesus reasoned and debated and
00:13:45.940 argued with the pharisees and the sadducees and the scribes and the rulers of the law the apostle
00:13:52.720 paul he debated the apostle um the apostle paul debated and reasoned in the hall of tyrrhenius
00:13:59.100 and uh we also have apollos who the bible literally says he argued and debated depending
00:14:04.700 on your translation powerfully so so the bible's filled with examples of people who are pushing
00:14:11.600 back, who were engaging in debate, engaging in argument, right? The average population in some
00:14:20.180 of these places, especially Jewish places, they said of Paul that he is one who stirs up riots.
00:14:27.320 In other words, they're saying, this is a guy who's, he's just, he's trouble. He's a quarreler, 0.96
00:14:33.980 right? King Ahab said that of Elijah, you troubler of Israel. And Elijah responds by saying, 0.99
00:14:39.160 hey i'm not allowed to argue so i guess i'll agree with whatever you say i am a troubler of
00:14:42.660 israel no he he argues he says now you're the one who has brought trouble on israel i'm not a
00:14:49.080 troubler of israel you don't like me because i say things that you don't want to hear but i'm not the
00:14:54.320 quarrelsome person i'm not the argumentative person i'm not the troubler the the one who
00:15:00.380 has actually brought trouble on the people is the one who is worshiping false gods the one who is
00:15:07.080 faithless the one who's in sin the one who's wrong he's the troubler of israel so paul argued
00:15:15.020 apollos argued peter argued uh jesus argued they had a sharp polemic not politic but polemic they
00:15:23.640 had a sharp rhetoric they were willing to engage in debate for the glory of god and the good of
00:15:30.040 his people who were being led astray all right let's go ahead and look at another verse here's
00:15:35.740 the next verse. Now, the next couple of verses are going to just reiterate, because I want to
00:15:40.740 show you, it's not just in one place in the Bible, but it's going to reiterate what we just saw in
00:15:45.280 the prior text. So this now is 2 Timothy chapter 2, verses 23 and 24. It says, has nothing to do
00:15:52.800 with foolish, ignorant controversies, right? It's the same phrase. It's the same term, foolish 0.99
00:15:58.780 controversies. You know that they breed quarrels, that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant 0.98
00:16:05.340 must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone able to teach patiently enduring evil so that that does
00:16:13.460 get a little bit into not just the message but the method not just what we say but how we say it
00:16:19.500 the lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but rather in contrast he should be kind able to teach
00:16:26.940 so he's competent he's able to engage in theological debate but he's also patient he's not
00:16:33.860 just competent he's not just studied up but he's also patiently enduring evil right it's like the
00:16:41.480 parable that jesus told to the disciples that uh that that a master owned a field and that he
00:16:46.720 planted wheat and then his enemy one of his enemies came in the middle of the night uh and planted bad
00:16:52.460 seeds so that there were tears among the wheat there were weeds among the wheat that sprung up
00:16:57.960 and the disciples you know the the servants of the master they go to him and they say
00:17:02.080 should we go ahead and root up the tares and the master responds by saying no lest we also damage
00:17:08.420 the wheat but let's wait to the end of the age we'll wait to the harvest which represents the
00:17:13.020 end of the age and the reapers which represent the angels Jesus interprets the parable later
00:17:17.780 for the disciples they will come and they will ultimately harvest both the wheat and the tares
00:17:23.260 and then separate them the wheat to be stored in my barn and the tares to be burned in the fire
00:17:30.200 So there is something to be said for waiting.
00:17:32.760 I think some of this applies to church discipline, for instance.
00:17:36.060 There are times where you might have knowledge.
00:17:39.300 You might be a witness, an eyewitness.
00:17:41.620 You were there.
00:17:42.440 You saw it.
00:17:43.260 It's not speculation.
00:17:44.680 It's not just a gut feeling or an instinct, but you were an eye, an ear witness.
00:17:49.160 You saw someone do something that is egregiously sinful.
00:17:54.920 As the Westminster would say, it's a high-handed sin.
00:17:57.420 and you've confronted the person per Matthew 18, go to your brother alone. He has not listened to
00:18:04.500 you. You have not been able to win over your brother. He has not even admitted that he did
00:18:08.940 that. He's lying. He's doubling down and digging in his heels and saying, no, you weren't there.
00:18:14.320 I didn't do that. You didn't see anything. And nobody else was a witness. Nobody else is able
00:18:20.060 to come out and testify as an eyewitness. You do not have two or three independent,
00:18:25.480 credible lines of testimony from primary sources you don't have that and so what does the bible
00:18:33.880 say that you do well whether it's deuteronomy and israel under the old covenant or whether it's
00:18:38.620 matthew 18 and the new testament in either regard what the bible says that you do is that ultimately
00:18:43.840 that person gets off the hook that biblically speaking the principle is this um that it would
00:18:50.820 be better it would be better for 10 guilty people to ultimately um be be treated as though they're
00:19:00.460 innocent than to wrongfully charge and indict and and criminalize one innocent person why why is the
00:19:10.180 bible when determining what what gets the priority why does the bible prioritize protecting the
00:19:16.940 innocent rather than punishing the guilty. Punishing the guilty is important, but if we're
00:19:22.020 having to choose between the two, the Bible prioritizes protecting the innocent over punishing
00:19:26.660 the guilty. Why? Because at the end of the day, in the ultimate eternal sense, the guilty never go
00:19:32.180 unpunished. No one indefinitely gets away with sin because there's a God in heaven who judges
00:19:41.580 both the quick and the dead and he sees all things and he does all things right and so
00:19:48.340 better for someone who is guilty to temporarily get away with their guilt than someone who is
00:19:55.040 innocent to be wrongfully tried and charged okay so all that being said the the point is
00:20:03.000 the lord's servant should be patient that doesn't mean that he doesn't engage in argument when
00:20:08.620 falsehoods are being proclaimed it simply means that that he doesn't um overstep his biblical
00:20:16.880 jurisdiction that he does not exercise the authority of command beyond the bounds of
00:20:24.140 authority that have been assigned to him that he's not um a vigilante that he doesn't try to
00:20:32.920 take justice into his own hands, that he doesn't practice or engage in abuse, or in the context of
00:20:40.600 the church, spiritual abuse, that he follows carefully the jurisdictions and the process
00:20:47.140 laid out in scripture for dealing with sin. And even if he has innate knowledge that the person
00:20:53.160 is guilty, if the process that Christ has given us in his words is not able to find the person
00:21:00.900 guilty because in the providence of God in his sovereignty it's not an accident God's sovereign
00:21:05.460 overall if in God's sovereignty he just didn't allow for there to be a second witness then the
00:21:11.380 person is ultimately going to say let God be true and every man a liar God knows what he's doing
00:21:16.680 God's sovereign he works all things for the good of those who love him and are called according to
00:21:20.920 his purposes even even tragedies even injustice God works all things for the good of those who
00:21:27.360 love him God is sovereign over everything so even in this patiently enduring evil kind and we might
00:21:35.500 say respectful towards everyone you can argue passionately but in a way that is that is not
00:21:41.740 cruel in a way that is not mean-spirited and you can be patient not meaning that hey I'm just being
00:21:48.640 patient I'm not I'm just not going to argue I'm never going to engage if somebody disagrees
00:21:52.720 that's not what patience means in this context that's not what it means so same kind of concept
00:21:59.600 avoiding foolish controversies again I think a lot of this is having to do with Judaism things
00:22:05.400 that were particular to that first century there were there were certain Judaizers circumcisers
00:22:10.880 of the flesh the circumcision party as Paul calls them elsewhere especially in the book of Galatians
00:22:16.360 And he often cites these individuals as being divisive, as being those who stir up quarrels and stir up division, introduce division into these Gentile New Covenant, New Testament churches. 0.54
00:22:31.840 And Paul is saying, avoid these individuals. Don't engage them. 0.86
00:22:35.780 Don't engage them. That doesn't mean don't engage somebody on the topic of God's sovereignty.
00:22:41.540 It doesn't mean don't engage somebody in the topic of eschatology
00:22:45.600 or don't engage somebody in the topic of penal substitutionary atonement.
00:22:51.220 It means if somebody is talking about the ceremonial portions of the Mosaic law
00:22:57.600 that have been fulfilled and abrogated by Christ
00:23:00.280 by virtue of his life, death, and resurrection,
00:23:03.360 now on this side of the new covenant, better just to avoid that.
00:23:08.560 They're warped men, as the scripture speaks elsewhere.
00:23:11.280 They're warped men, simply wanting to upset households, sow seeds of division, best to avoid these people.
00:23:21.240 Mark and avoid.
00:23:22.160 All right, here's the next text.
00:23:25.720 This is 1 Timothy chapter 6, verses 3 through 5.
00:23:28.940 So here we have, well, I'll just go ahead and read it.
00:23:33.040 It says,
00:23:33.200 It says,
00:24:03.200 means of gain. So a lot of sharp words to say about such an individual. This person is,
00:24:10.800 they're a bad guy. They're depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness 0.99
00:24:18.900 is a means of gain. So there's a duplicity, there's greed, all these things are involved.
00:24:24.160 But start at the beginning of the text. Who is this person? What makes them the person who is
00:24:31.960 quarrelsome and stirs up quarrels and divisive. If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does
00:24:38.300 not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness,
00:24:44.300 then he's conceited, puffed up with conceit, understanding nothing. So he's conceited,
00:24:48.900 he's arrogant and ignorant. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy. What makes him have an 1.00
00:24:54.920 unhealthy craving for controversy? Because he has right doctrine and loves the Word of God and wants
00:25:00.740 to engage with people, to see them come into right doctrine as well? No. What makes him the kind of
00:25:07.800 guy that has an unhealthy craving for controversy isn't, and for quarrels about words, isn't because
00:25:15.360 he's the guy who's engaging in arguments. It's not, hey, this guy has a love of controversy
00:25:22.760 and quarrels. This guy has a craving for controversy and quarrels because we regularly
00:25:27.740 see him engaging in debate no it's because he's wrong in his theology he's wrong in his theology
00:25:36.700 it's not the guy who's regularly debating that is the guy who's described in scripture as having a
00:25:43.680 craving for controversy and quarrels about words now the guy who's described as having an unhealthy
00:25:49.700 craving for controversy and he has a craving for quarrels is the guy who teaches a different
00:25:56.460 doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our lord jesus christ and the teaching which
00:26:02.000 accords with godliness meaning that the person who is chiefly responsible for being the source
00:26:09.140 of division and quarrelsomeness is the person who's wrong let me say that again that's that's
00:26:16.420 a basic rule of thumb that you'll find all over the pages of scripture especially in the new
00:26:21.220 testament when it comes to to deciding who's being quarrelsome here nine out of ten times
00:26:28.420 according to a biblical definition looking at text like this one the person who is quarrelsome
00:26:34.720 that the bible would define as quarrelsome is you could have two people both arguing
00:26:40.500 both arguing but the person who's quarrelsome is the person who's wrong that's the person who's
00:26:47.620 quarrelsome. The person who is theologically wrong, who's teaching a different doctrine.
00:26:53.080 The Apostle Paul engaged in quarrels. He engaged in arguments all the time, but he was not quarrelsome.
00:27:02.360 Why? How could the Apostle Paul quarrel, but not be marked as a man who is sinfully quarrelsome?
00:27:08.560 Because he was right. Because he was right. Yes, it has something to do with the method,
00:27:15.380 that he was patient that he was kind first and foremost it has something to do with the message
00:27:22.180 he was doctrinally sound he was right let's go ahead and move on to another verse
00:27:28.660 a bishop then must be blameless the husband of one wife vigilant sober of good behavior
00:27:38.300 given to hospitality apt to teach not given to wine no striker not greedy or filthy lucre
00:27:45.280 but patient, not a brawler, not covetousness, a covetous, a covetous. So this is first Timothy
00:27:52.960 chapter three, verses two through three. This is listing some of the qualifications for a bishop
00:27:59.400 or other translations would say an elder. These two terms being synonymous, this is a pastor.
00:28:05.920 Somebody is going to hold the ordained office of elder in the church. If they're going to be a
00:28:10.760 pastor there are certain qualifications that they must fulfill that they must meet now the reason
00:28:16.200 why i'm using this is the king james version here the reason why i want to use the king james version
00:28:21.540 i think it's better um well in multiple places but this being one of them um i think that the
00:28:27.100 king james version is better and one of the things that it says other versions will say he must not
00:28:31.520 be quarrelsome but the king james version goes ahead and just defines quarrelsome and says instead
00:28:38.460 of saying he must not be quarrelsome or argumentative it goes ahead and says well he he must
00:28:45.360 not be a striker no striker a not greedy a filthy lucre but patient and then it says not a brawler
00:28:53.580 not a brawler whereas other translations again are going to say he must not be quarrelsome the
00:29:00.500 king james is going to say he must not be getting in physical fights he must not be someone getting
00:29:07.640 in fistfights. He must not be striking. He must not be a brawler. So the King James is essentially
00:29:14.800 saying, what does it mean not to be quarrelsome? It means that this guy isn't punching people in
00:29:20.820 the face. The guy who's not punching people in the face. And it's assuming that he's right,
00:29:28.060 because it also says he must be able to teach. It says he must be able to teach. So he's got to
00:29:33.620 have theological competence right that's one of the qualifications so he's we're assuming here
00:29:38.880 he's theologically competent and he's engaging with people who disagree with him pastors regularly
00:29:44.740 do that engaging with people who disagree with the doctrine that they are teaching publicly in
00:29:50.340 their public preaching ministry so he's teaching sound doctrine people are pushing back with unsound
00:29:56.880 doctrine with wrong doctrine he's engaging with some of that pushback he's engaging with some of
00:30:02.540 that debate and what makes him not quarrelsome is that he's right c.a in terms of his message
00:30:09.920 he's on the right side he has the right theological position and number two although he is arguing
00:30:16.420 powerfully the apollos the bible says that he argued powerfully he was using sharp language
00:30:24.880 sharp language jesus used sharp language polemical language he described i mean he used sarcasm
00:30:32.180 You strain a gnat, but you swallow a camel.
00:30:36.440 You're like whitewashed tombs, right?
00:30:38.900 You're pretty and bleached on the outside, but on the inside, there's the smell of a 0.51
00:30:43.340 rotting corpse. 1.00
00:30:45.020 You're so dumb. 1.00
00:30:47.080 You clean the outside of your glass before taking a drink, but you leave a petri dish 1.00
00:30:53.940 of infectious bacteria and disease inside the cup, pour in your drink, and then go ahead
00:31:01.560 and gulp it down right that's the way that jesus speaks to people who were perverting the truth
00:31:08.380 and leading others astray and that's not quarrelsome jesus did not lift a hand jesus was not
00:31:16.700 a brawler in fact even when they wrongfully come for him for his arrest when it would have been
00:31:21.900 right to exercise self-defense in an ordinary situation jesus knowing the purpose for which
00:31:27.840 he had come to earth as a lamb led to the slaughter to die for the sins of the world,
00:31:33.840 Jesus does not resist.
00:31:35.560 He does not physically resist.
00:31:36.880 Even then, he engages, and he still has some sharp words, right?
00:31:40.920 I've been publicly teaching for the better part of three years now, give or take.
00:31:45.880 You've seen me in the synagogues.
00:31:47.460 You've seen me in the streets.
00:31:48.560 You could have arrested me at any time, but you come under the cover of darkness, right?
00:31:53.360 He's charging them.
00:31:54.740 That's what he's doing.
00:31:55.420 He's saying, you're being deceptive.
00:31:57.840 You didn't come in broad daylight because you know what you're doing is wrong.
00:32:02.600 You're going to hold a mock trial and produce false witnesses in the middle of the night.
00:32:09.400 And that's why you're coming now.
00:32:11.000 So even then, at Jesus' arrest, knowing that that was the very purpose that he came for,
00:32:15.480 to be arrested, to be wrongfully tried, and to be crucified,
00:32:19.700 Jesus, knowing this, he engages in polemical language.
00:32:22.980 He calls them out on their duplicity.
00:32:25.280 He says, you're being sinister.
00:32:26.960 You're being malicious.
00:32:27.840 you're being deceitful. You are being deceitful. And so he's still using sharp words, but he doesn't 0.78
00:32:34.560 physically resist. He's not a brawler. And when Peter starts to brawl, namely by cutting off one
00:32:41.660 of the soldier's ears, Jesus tells him to put away his sword. And he reaches down and he grabs the
00:32:47.520 ear and he heals the man who's coming to wrongfully arrest him. So sharp language is different than
00:32:54.140 being a striker sharp language is different than being a brawler and i appreciate the king james
00:33:00.900 particularly in this context where instead of saying quarrelsome it just goes ahead and
00:33:06.240 practically defines exactly what it means to be quarrelsome which means that an elder does argue
00:33:13.420 he does engage he even has at his disposal sarcasm satire sharp polemical language what
00:33:23.660 makes him not quarrelsome is twofold he's right and he doesn't punch people in the face god bless
00:33:29.740 all right let's go ahead and look at another verse first corinthians chapter 1 verse 10 through 12
00:33:36.200 i appeal to you brothers by the name of our lord jesus christ that all of you agree and that there
00:33:42.700 be no divisions among you all right this is a verse that is used out of context well just
00:33:49.040 misinterpreted a million times but that you be united in the same mind and same judgment for
00:33:56.940 it has been reported to me by chloe's people that there is quarreling there's the word among you
00:34:02.960 my brothers what i mean is that each of you says i follow paul i follow apollos i follow cephas
00:34:12.080 that's Peter, or I follow Christ. Again, that's 1 Corinthians 1, verses 10-12. Now, this one is
00:34:19.960 hilarious when you see people misapply this scripture and misinterpret it. So, I follow
00:34:26.420 Paul, I follow Apollos, I follow Peter, I follow Christ. How do people interpret this? How does
00:34:32.500 your modern evangelical normie evangelical use this i follow calvin i follow jacobus arminius
00:34:41.100 i follow whatever you know some other guy edwards i follow spurgeon i follow wesley i follow
00:34:49.460 whitfield i that's how they apply it now why does that not work why is that a misinterpretation
00:34:56.480 i follow calvin what i follow um i i'm a calvinist i'm an arminian i follow john calvin i follow
00:35:06.400 jacobus arminius why is that not the same as saying i follow paul i follow apollos i follow
00:35:13.440 cephas i follow christ the reason why that's different calvin versus jacobus arminius
00:35:20.560 versus what the text says paul apollos peter and jesus the reason why that's different is because
00:35:27.940 paul apollos peter and jesus agree that's the difference paul did not have a different doctrine
00:35:39.700 than jesus and this is the same argument that progressive deconstructing liberal god-hating
00:35:48.660 christians and they're not actually christians people like brandon robertson i think is his
00:35:53.900 name james white and jeff durbin recently debated him um people like this what do they do
00:35:59.480 think about it remember what do they do what would a feminist do feminist theologians
00:36:06.260 lgbt affirming theologians what do they do they are constantly trying to trump paul with jesus
00:36:13.860 that's not what first corinthians chapter one verses 10 through 12 is saying right that's not
00:36:20.680 what paul is saying to the corinthians right because notice he doesn't just say because
00:36:25.800 what you would think the way that people use this verse you would think that paul would say
00:36:29.700 you know um you guys are quarreling and that's not good some of you say i follow paul some say
00:36:35.440 i follow apollo some say i follow peter but what you should do is just say i follow jesus
00:36:40.660 but that's not the text paul cites that or i follow christ that that position in the context
00:36:48.660 of his argument is also a quarrelsome position think about that for a second let that sit
00:36:53.740 for a moment just chew on that marinate on that for a second paul is citing right along
00:36:58.940 the categories of i follow paul i follow apollos i follow cephas again that's peter or i follow
00:37:05.620 christ i follow jesus is being cited as an example of being quarrelsome because the people who are
00:37:14.500 claiming to follow one of these men or in the case of christ the god man the son of god in all these
00:37:21.140 cases they're not talking about their doctrine that's not what's going on here the people that
00:37:28.000 Paul's writing to, the Corinthians, they are aware that there is theological unity and perfect
00:37:36.960 alignment between the apostles and Christ. So when people say, well, I follow Paul, they're not saying
00:37:43.020 Paul teaches one thing and Jesus teaches something else. And I choose Paul over Jesus.
00:37:49.060 No one's making that argument. That's not what Paul's addressing with the Corinthian church.
00:37:53.740 he goes right after this i don't have it for the screen but right after this he goes into baptism
00:37:59.100 and he actually says i thank god that i did not baptize anyone and then he says well but i did
00:38:05.300 baptize this household and maybe this other one and you know if there's anybody else that i baptized
00:38:09.580 beyond that i can't remember because apparently he did baptize but he goes on and says before i did
00:38:14.940 not come to baptize not that baptism is wrong somebody needs to baptize but he says as an
00:38:19.860 apostle of christ not as a local elder in the church but primarily as an apostle of christ on
00:38:25.440 a missionary journey going to as many people as possible and staying for a short time in each of
00:38:30.020 these places my chief aim is to simply preach not not to baptize but to preach but it's not
00:38:37.880 what i'm trying to say is it's not random that the apostle paul has this text that we've just
00:38:44.880 read that's on the screen right now and then goes from that and talks about baptism
00:38:48.660 what biblical scholars and commentators within the reformed tradition that are tried and true
00:38:56.340 and sound solid respectable theologians that i would adhere to and trust what they say about
00:39:02.740 this i think they're right is they're saying it's not so much that there's four different
00:39:07.680 men represented here one being the god man christ and they represent four different theological
00:39:13.920 teachings four different doctrinal confessions that that are not in harmony with one another
00:39:21.320 but actually contradict the four different theological systems that contradict one another
00:39:26.520 that's not what's being mentioned the reason why baptism is brought into the equation is because
00:39:31.980 it's talking about people were boasting in the corinthian church about their status based off
00:39:38.300 of who baptized them i was baptized by the apostle peter i was baptized by apollos i was baptized by
00:39:48.080 paul i was baptized by the followers of christ his own disciples when he was still walking the earth
00:39:54.780 that's what they're getting this is not four different people representing four different
00:40:00.900 theological positions the apostles and jesus are not divided against each other theologically and
00:40:07.660 the few instances, one that I can think of off the top of my head, where there is a doctrinal
00:40:14.020 dispute, it is quickly put into order. What's the instance that I'm thinking of? The book of
00:40:19.000 Galatians, right? Where it says that certain men from James, whether James the apostle actually
00:40:24.740 sent them from Jerusalem or not, they claim to be from James, but they were actually probably not
00:40:29.500 from James, but from the circumcision party. And they come down to check on what's happening
00:40:34.300 what the ministry of Paul and Barnabas and these guys and and they come down and start preaching
00:40:40.220 about circumcision being required to be a Christian that they must adhere to the law of
00:40:47.400 Moses namely the ceremonial portions of the law ceremonial rituals and primarily circumcision 0.92
00:40:53.600 and to the point where Peter who was previously eating with the Gentiles and living like a Gentile 0.94
00:41:00.820 in terms of his dietary restrictions and those truly believing that these things have been 0.50
00:41:05.920 fulfilled by Christ, all of a sudden he kind of reverts back into his old Judaism ways and he
00:41:14.120 starts distancing himself from the Gentiles and it starts to cause a division within the church 0.53
00:41:20.220 there. So much so that even Barnabas, Paul says, was led astray. Now what does Paul do? Well now
00:41:26.060 Peter and Paul for the rest of their ministries, their public ministries, they both have
00:41:30.400 contradicting a separate set of of theological persuasions no paul just addresses it and he
00:41:36.660 addresses it public publicly he says i called him out to his face for he was clearly in the wrong
00:41:43.120 peter was not keeping in step his actions of withdrawing from the gentiles were not in step
00:41:50.320 it was hypocrisy not keeping in step with the truth of the gospel the gospel that that were
00:41:56.900 saved by grace and not by adherence to the ceremonial rituals of the law of god but that
00:42:02.760 christ is the final and perfect fulfillment of those things and that we're saved by grace through
00:42:07.640 faith alone peter his his actions his hands and feet withdrawing from the gentiles to impress
00:42:16.040 these men who are you know sent from james allegedly whether they were or not that was
00:42:22.360 hypocrisy because it's not as keeping in step with his doctrine so paul actually one he's not
00:42:29.380 actually even even correcting peter's doctrine he's saying you're not keeping in step with the
00:42:35.720 gospel that i know you believe so i know that you and i agree on doctrine you're just not living it
00:42:41.580 out currently and you need to that's one of the only big disputes i mean we have other where you
00:42:48.100 know paul and barnabas they part ways but they don't part ways over calvinism they don't part
00:42:53.440 ways over reform soteriology or whether or not unconditional election is found in the scripture
00:42:58.220 they part ways over over who should be in their ministry team namely john mark and even that
00:43:06.560 seems to be reconciled later on when the apostle paul who did not think that mark should come with
00:43:11.420 him and barnabas thought that they that he should they still bless each other they're amicable it's
00:43:16.260 a sharp dispute, but they ultimately bless each other to work in different portions of the Lord's
00:43:20.380 vineyard. They're not disagreeing doctrinally. They're just disagreeing over the credentials
00:43:25.060 of an individual based off of his past failures. And then later on, the apostle Paul says,
00:43:30.660 send to me John Mark for I'm in need of him recognizing, Hey, I think I got that one wrong.
00:43:36.120 Or even if he's not admitting that he got it wrong, he's saying, well, if Mark was suspect
00:43:40.340 before, he's not suspect any longer because Barnabas did some good work with discipling
00:43:46.180 John Mark and he's solid now. These are like the only example, you don't look through the pages
00:43:53.840 of the New Testament and see Peter and Paul disagreeing with each other. So when he says
00:43:59.480 that I hear there's quarreling among you, my brothers, what I mean, he's saying, what kind
00:44:05.380 of quarreling here's the example of the quarreling i'm talking about one says i follow paul one says
00:44:10.960 i follow apollos one says i follow cephas one says i follow christ paul is not saying that these are
00:44:17.000 four different individuals with four different contradicting theological positions
00:44:23.280 and you adhering to one and saying that it's right while implying that the others are wrong
00:44:31.360 is what it means to be quarrelsome that's not what he's saying because these guys agree
00:44:36.360 paul and peter agree theologically and paul despite the progressive lgbt affirming feminist theologian
00:44:44.480 paul agrees with jesus and jesus agrees with paul to use pauline epistles in the new testament
00:44:52.840 for our our biblical support for homosexuality being a sin or a woman not being permitted to
00:44:59.440 teach or exercise authority over a man to use paul is to use jesus it is the words of christ
00:45:06.640 it's god's word it's breathed out by god it's scripture it is the word of god it's not paul
00:45:13.980 versus jesus it's all jesus it's all the word of god paul is speaking as an apostle of christ
00:45:21.200 with apostolic authority meaning he is speaking upon the authority which christ gave him that
00:45:27.300 Christ commissioned him as a messenger, as an apostle, an erander of Christ's authority and
00:45:34.560 message. So these guys are not doctrinally contradicting one another. The quarreling that
00:45:40.780 was going on in Corinth is not saying, well, I agree with Paul's theology and you agree with
00:45:48.000 Cephas, Peter's theology, and these are two different contradicting theologies. No, it's
00:45:52.680 saying rather it's saying um paul's a bigger deal than peter peter's a bigger deal than paul and i
00:45:58.760 have paul you know paul benefits paul advantages because i was baptized by paul uh well i was
00:46:06.000 baptized by peter and to be baptized by peter is a bigger deal than being baptized by paul well i'm
00:46:11.040 better than all of you i was baptized by jesus that that's what he's addressing he's addressing
00:46:16.360 people making certain claims of of having close vicinity to big names in in the first century
00:46:24.780 church apostles and jesus of course himself is the cornerstone and using that as their basis for
00:46:30.880 being higher up on the pecking order it's not a conversation about differing contradicting
00:46:38.060 doctrines so when somebody engages in the debate and says i think calvin is right in his
00:46:44.440 interpretation of scripture and jacobus arminius is wrong and then someone says well that's what
00:46:49.920 paul's talking about first corinthians 1 you're saying i follow john calvin you're saying you
00:46:54.880 follow jacobus arminius but really i just follow jesus you've completely misunderstood paul's point
00:47:00.280 in first corinthians 1 completely all right let's go on um i think that may be it do we have another
00:47:06.160 text here we go romans 16 17 and 18 i appeal to you brothers to watch out for those who cause
00:47:13.840 divisions who are the quarrelsome types who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the
00:47:20.780 doctrine that you have been taught avoid these people here they are for such persons do not
00:47:26.980 serve our lord christ but their own appetites by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts
00:47:35.580 of the naive by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive so who are the
00:47:43.740 people who introduce divisions cause divisions the people who are really harsh in their tongue
00:47:49.440 no not according to this verse of the bible the people that paul's talking again paul here
00:47:59.240 in romans that he's talking about that cause division and create obstacles contrary to the
00:48:05.180 doctrine that they have been taught these people who are just serving their own appetites and not
00:48:10.720 serving the lord jesus these people who are divisive who are quarrelsome are people who don't
00:48:18.880 have harsh tone but smooth tone the people who are divisive and quarrelsome in this text are not
00:48:27.100 the ones with harsh tone but the ones with smooth tone so let's just give an example modern day
00:48:35.360 example. Joel Osteen or Paul Washer, which one is quarrelsome by the Bible's definition?
00:48:48.060 Joel Osteen versus Paul Washer, which one is causing division? Which one is using smooth
00:48:57.240 talk and flattery and deceiving the hearts of the naive it's not Paul Washer it's Joel Osteen
00:49:07.600 of course it is but by human standards especially in our culture today where it's all about being
00:49:17.860 nice by human standards very few people would think of Joel Osteen as being quarrelsome
00:49:23.880 Now, there's a lot of Christians by the grace of God who have sound doctrine, who are truly born again, believe the gospel, and they're able to recognize that Joel Osteen is a false teacher.
00:49:34.080 And so there's a lot of Christians that would say, Joel Osteen is a false teacher.
00:49:39.700 But even they, not all of them, would be willing to say, Joel Osteen is a false teacher and he's quarrelsome.
00:49:47.920 He's divisive.
00:49:50.260 He's one who causes divisions.
00:49:53.880 but the bible would say that the person who causes divisions is the one who's in introducing
00:50:00.520 theological error let me say that again the person that the bible that the bible charges
00:50:08.900 as being divisive is the person who's introducing error that's the divisive person and you might
00:50:17.460 I think, well, Joel Osteen is not divisive.
00:50:19.500 He's not quarrelsome.
00:50:20.940 He speaks in the most smooth, kind, big smile talk that you could possibly imagine.
00:50:27.780 How is that quarrelsome?
00:50:29.880 Have you ever gotten in a debate with one of his followers?
00:50:35.220 See, you think Joel Osteen is nice.
00:50:38.760 You think that he's not quarrelsome.
00:50:41.440 But what about the millions of people who follow him,
00:50:44.600 who are exactly what's described in verse 18?
00:50:47.460 of this text Romans chapter 16 verse 18 that by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts
00:50:55.620 of the naive what about them not just the false teacher using the smooth talk but what about
00:51:01.860 the naive the ones who have naive hearts who are being deceived there are millions of people in
00:51:09.560 our nation and all around the world who when you say Joel Osteen is a false teacher teaching a false
00:51:16.240 gospel leading millions of people to hell which is a perfectly biblically true statement and a
00:51:22.940 loving statement for that matter it's not only true but it's a loving statement because the truth
00:51:29.220 is love the truth is loving and when you make that statement there are millions of people
00:51:35.360 who get angry with you and distance themselves from you or will charge you criticize you
00:51:43.220 start making ad hominem attacks towards you and all of a sudden what's the result a division
00:51:50.760 there's division there's quarreling there's arguing there's bickering but who introduced
00:51:58.320 that division who created it who sowed the seeds for it the person who's saying that Joel Osteen
00:52:04.980 is a false teacher no Joel Osteen Joel Osteen is the one who deceived the hearts of the naive
00:52:12.400 to where now when someone preaches the truth these naive people who've been deceived by
00:52:19.060 smooth talking Joel Osteen are now being quarrelsome they're the ones being quarrelsome
00:52:24.660 and Joel Osteen's the one who sowed the seeds of quarrelsomeness that's what the bible would teach
00:52:31.280 all right I think that that's pretty much all the verses that I want to go through so
00:52:36.840 let's go ahead and take some questions I see some of what you guys are saying in the chat I'm going
00:52:41.280 to address some questions directly. Real quick before I do, I want to make an announcement
00:52:46.980 briefly. Here we go. Let's go ahead and pull it up on the screen so that you guys who are watching
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00:53:01.600 December. All right. So we've got 550 people who are registered for our Theonomy and Postmillennialism
00:53:07.020 Conference. It's happening May 5th, 6th, and 7th this year. So about a month and a half,
00:53:12.640 May 5th, 6th, and 7th. That's a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. We've got Dr. James White, Dr. Joe
00:53:18.220 Boot, Dale Partridge, and myself speaking at the Theonomy and Postmillennialism Conference.
00:53:22.740 It's already sold out. However, we are looking for sponsors. And I might add, this is a little
00:53:28.380 bit of a nifty loophole. This is a nice little trick to slip into the conference if you really
00:53:33.900 wanted to come, but it's too late for you to register, you could come as a sponsor. And what
00:53:39.120 we're doing with our sponsors is, you know, sometimes there are conferences that have, you
00:53:42.400 know, 30 different booths, right? Or 50 different booths, a lot of sponsors, right? And they charge
00:53:47.900 maybe 500 or maybe 750 bucks for each one of these booths for people, you know, for their ministry or
00:53:53.720 for their company, their business, their organization, their nonprofit, whatever it is, to be able to
00:53:59.200 advertise at the conference, you know, what, what they're doing. Um, we by design intentionally are
00:54:04.760 limited to six. We are going to have six sponsors. We already have two and we are looking for four
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00:54:14.100 four more. Now what's the benefit? Uh, the benefit is that all six of our sponsors, one of the
00:54:19.820 reasons why we're limiting it is that they don't just get to have a booth. They get to have two
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00:54:50.080 ministry their non-profit uh whatever it is however the catch is um that i'm going to be
00:54:57.400 very particular i want guys who are theologically sound um business is great it can be a for-profit
00:55:05.740 business but it needs to be a christian business and that doesn't mean that they make crosses and
00:55:09.700 sell them but i mean a christian business like luther said that you know the you know a christian
00:55:15.040 cobbler um in making christian shoes it's not that he puts little crosses on on the tongue or
00:55:19.980 like in and out you know john 3 16 on the bottom of the cup what makes it a christian's shoe is
00:55:25.280 it's a good shoe and the company is run by christians who believe in the lord jesus christ
00:55:30.220 and their christian faith influences everything they do including their work ethic their business
00:55:35.120 integrity and ethics um they they do things well and so you could have a shoe company it could be
00:55:41.240 whatever but you are a christian a god-fearing christian and you do the kind of work that
00:55:47.100 reflects that Christianity. It's a good price. It's a fair price. Doesn't, it's not, doesn't
00:55:52.080 have to be a charity, but it's a fair price and it's a good product or a good service, right?
00:55:57.000 So that's the business thing. Or if it's a ministry, if it's a, a, a, you know, explicit
00:56:01.880 Christian ministry that has content and teaching, um, then it's going to have to have good doctrine.
00:56:08.540 Um, so all you have to do, if you want to do this is you need to just simply go to our conference
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00:56:22.720 response conference.com. Uh, look over that page. You'll find a lot of details and information
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00:56:34.880 one of the things that you'll see is, uh, you'll see a, a tab that says interested in sponsoring
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00:56:44.940 know 300 questions but a short little form that you can fill out some of the questions give your
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00:56:54.940 time to get on the phone with me and we'll talk it through so we're looking for six sponsors we
00:57:00.220 already have two we need four more but the benefit is that if you align right if you have a like-minded
00:57:07.100 you know mission if you're similar to us you're a good fit for the conference and this conference
00:57:11.440 is a good fit for you then you're going to get to have a five minute public pitch in front of
00:57:16.000 everybody and you're not going to be fishing in a barrel of 550 you know registrations at the
00:57:23.400 conference but with you know with 30 other different booths and sponsors but there's only
00:57:28.700 going to be six of you so you're going to get to talk to a lot of people and you're not going to
00:57:33.100 have to compete with you know a million other sponsors you're going to compete with five other
00:57:36.900 sponsors, and you get to do a public pitch. So it's a unique opportunity, and I hope that you
00:57:41.760 guys will take us up on it. One more announcement that I want to make, and then we'll go ahead and
00:57:44.520 move on. The owner of this company is actually a member in good standing at my church, Covenant
00:57:52.040 Bible Church. We're located in Georgetown, Texas, about 45 minutes north of Austin. Our church is
00:57:57.560 Covenant Bible Church website. If you're in central Texas area, you're looking for a church,
00:58:02.140 covenantbible.org covenantbible.org check it out come check out the church but the owner of this
00:58:09.420 company is an awesome guy awesome guy faithful member in the church loves jesus loves his wife
00:58:15.900 loves his kids wants to leave an inheritance to his children's children he wants to do the work
00:58:22.040 of a christian he wants to get involved in you know all of christ for all of life and so he
00:58:29.260 started a coffee company and the name of the company company is ranger essentials coffee
00:58:35.960 ranger essentials coffee the website is ranger essentials coffee.com ranger r-a-n-g-e-r
00:58:45.780 essentials plural essentials e-s-s-e-n-t-i-a-l-s coffee so ranger essentials coffee.com the way
00:58:58.020 that I've described it to some of the guys in the church trying to slowly wean my Christian
00:59:03.200 brothers and sisters off of black rifle coffee. As I say, Ranger Essentials coffee, it's like
00:59:08.540 black rock coffee, except for conservatives. Because black rock coffee is not for conservatives.
00:59:16.060 They've given to Act Blue. They've given to Democrat causes. They didn't defend Kyle
00:59:20.740 Rittenhouse and Second Amendment rights. It's a joke. You look at some of the charges with the
00:59:27.180 owner of the company and so it's it's um it's not conservative but by golly they're getting
00:59:33.480 conservatives money um because people think it's conservative right and people don't want to go to
00:59:37.460 starbucks because they know if i love my wife and kids starbucks hates me which is true it's true
00:59:42.480 but black rock company or uh is it black rock black rifle black rifle is one thing black rifle
00:59:50.040 coffee they they're not that conservative um and they're certainly from what i can tell not 0.98
00:59:56.620 Christian some of the ads they've even put out are lewd and gross and sexually immoral and so 0.80
01:00:04.880 all that being said if you want to support not just a pseudo neocon conservative coffee company 0.67
01:00:11.380 like Black Rifle but you want to actually support a Christian and truly biblically theologically
01:00:17.460 conservative and politically and culturally conservative company and you want to help
01:00:22.120 somebody who's a member in my church who's wanting to faithfully live out the christian life then you
01:00:27.220 need to do ranger essentials coffee.com ranger essentials coffee.com