In this episode, I discuss what it means to be quarrelsome, and why we should avoid quarrelsomeness. I discuss the difference between quarrelsome people and those who breed quarrels, and how to deal with them.
00:17:44.680It's not just a gut feeling or an instinct, but you were an eye, an ear witness.
00:17:49.160You saw someone do something that is egregiously sinful.
00:17:54.920As the Westminster would say, it's a high-handed sin.
00:17:57.420and you've confronted the person per Matthew 18, go to your brother alone. He has not listened to
00:18:04.500you. You have not been able to win over your brother. He has not even admitted that he did
00:18:08.940that. He's lying. He's doubling down and digging in his heels and saying, no, you weren't there.
00:18:14.320I didn't do that. You didn't see anything. And nobody else was a witness. Nobody else is able
00:18:20.060to come out and testify as an eyewitness. You do not have two or three independent,
00:18:25.480credible lines of testimony from primary sources you don't have that and so what does the bible
00:18:33.880say that you do well whether it's deuteronomy and israel under the old covenant or whether it's
00:18:38.620matthew 18 and the new testament in either regard what the bible says that you do is that ultimately
00:18:43.840that person gets off the hook that biblically speaking the principle is this um that it would
00:18:50.820be better it would be better for 10 guilty people to ultimately um be be treated as though they're
00:19:00.460innocent than to wrongfully charge and indict and and criminalize one innocent person why why is the
00:19:10.180bible when determining what what gets the priority why does the bible prioritize protecting the
00:19:16.940innocent rather than punishing the guilty. Punishing the guilty is important, but if we're
00:19:22.020having to choose between the two, the Bible prioritizes protecting the innocent over punishing
00:19:26.660the guilty. Why? Because at the end of the day, in the ultimate eternal sense, the guilty never go
00:19:32.180unpunished. No one indefinitely gets away with sin because there's a God in heaven who judges
00:19:41.580both the quick and the dead and he sees all things and he does all things right and so
00:19:48.340better for someone who is guilty to temporarily get away with their guilt than someone who is
00:19:55.040innocent to be wrongfully tried and charged okay so all that being said the the point is
00:20:03.000the lord's servant should be patient that doesn't mean that he doesn't engage in argument when
00:20:08.620falsehoods are being proclaimed it simply means that that he doesn't um overstep his biblical
00:20:16.880jurisdiction that he does not exercise the authority of command beyond the bounds of
00:20:24.140authority that have been assigned to him that he's not um a vigilante that he doesn't try to
00:20:32.920take justice into his own hands, that he doesn't practice or engage in abuse, or in the context of
00:20:40.600the church, spiritual abuse, that he follows carefully the jurisdictions and the process
00:20:47.140laid out in scripture for dealing with sin. And even if he has innate knowledge that the person
00:20:53.160is guilty, if the process that Christ has given us in his words is not able to find the person
00:21:00.900guilty because in the providence of God in his sovereignty it's not an accident God's sovereign
00:21:05.460overall if in God's sovereignty he just didn't allow for there to be a second witness then the
00:21:11.380person is ultimately going to say let God be true and every man a liar God knows what he's doing
00:21:16.680God's sovereign he works all things for the good of those who love him and are called according to
00:21:20.920his purposes even even tragedies even injustice God works all things for the good of those who
00:21:27.360love him God is sovereign over everything so even in this patiently enduring evil kind and we might
00:21:35.500say respectful towards everyone you can argue passionately but in a way that is that is not
00:21:41.740cruel in a way that is not mean-spirited and you can be patient not meaning that hey I'm just being
00:21:48.640patient I'm not I'm just not going to argue I'm never going to engage if somebody disagrees
00:21:52.720that's not what patience means in this context that's not what it means so same kind of concept
00:21:59.600avoiding foolish controversies again I think a lot of this is having to do with Judaism things
00:22:05.400that were particular to that first century there were there were certain Judaizers circumcisers
00:22:10.880of the flesh the circumcision party as Paul calls them elsewhere especially in the book of Galatians
00:22:16.360And he often cites these individuals as being divisive, as being those who stir up quarrels and stir up division, introduce division into these Gentile New Covenant, New Testament churches.0.54
00:22:31.840And Paul is saying, avoid these individuals. Don't engage them.0.86
00:22:35.780Don't engage them. That doesn't mean don't engage somebody on the topic of God's sovereignty.
00:22:41.540It doesn't mean don't engage somebody in the topic of eschatology
00:22:45.600or don't engage somebody in the topic of penal substitutionary atonement.
00:22:51.220It means if somebody is talking about the ceremonial portions of the Mosaic law
00:22:57.600that have been fulfilled and abrogated by Christ
00:23:00.280by virtue of his life, death, and resurrection,
00:23:03.360now on this side of the new covenant, better just to avoid that.
00:23:08.560They're warped men, as the scripture speaks elsewhere.
00:23:11.280They're warped men, simply wanting to upset households, sow seeds of division, best to avoid these people.
00:32:27.840you're being deceitful. You are being deceitful. And so he's still using sharp words, but he doesn't0.78
00:32:34.560physically resist. He's not a brawler. And when Peter starts to brawl, namely by cutting off one
00:32:41.660of the soldier's ears, Jesus tells him to put away his sword. And he reaches down and he grabs the
00:32:47.520ear and he heals the man who's coming to wrongfully arrest him. So sharp language is different than
00:32:54.140being a striker sharp language is different than being a brawler and i appreciate the king james
00:33:00.900particularly in this context where instead of saying quarrelsome it just goes ahead and
00:33:06.240practically defines exactly what it means to be quarrelsome which means that an elder does argue
00:33:13.420he does engage he even has at his disposal sarcasm satire sharp polemical language what
00:33:23.660makes him not quarrelsome is twofold he's right and he doesn't punch people in the face god bless
00:33:29.740all right let's go ahead and look at another verse first corinthians chapter 1 verse 10 through 12
00:33:36.200i appeal to you brothers by the name of our lord jesus christ that all of you agree and that there
00:33:42.700be no divisions among you all right this is a verse that is used out of context well just
00:33:49.040misinterpreted a million times but that you be united in the same mind and same judgment for
00:33:56.940it has been reported to me by chloe's people that there is quarreling there's the word among you
00:34:02.960my brothers what i mean is that each of you says i follow paul i follow apollos i follow cephas
00:34:12.080that's Peter, or I follow Christ. Again, that's 1 Corinthians 1, verses 10-12. Now, this one is
00:34:19.960hilarious when you see people misapply this scripture and misinterpret it. So, I follow
00:34:26.420Paul, I follow Apollos, I follow Peter, I follow Christ. How do people interpret this? How does
00:34:32.500your modern evangelical normie evangelical use this i follow calvin i follow jacobus arminius
00:34:41.100i follow whatever you know some other guy edwards i follow spurgeon i follow wesley i follow
00:34:49.460whitfield i that's how they apply it now why does that not work why is that a misinterpretation
00:34:56.480i follow calvin what i follow um i i'm a calvinist i'm an arminian i follow john calvin i follow
00:35:06.400jacobus arminius why is that not the same as saying i follow paul i follow apollos i follow
00:35:13.440cephas i follow christ the reason why that's different calvin versus jacobus arminius
00:35:20.560versus what the text says paul apollos peter and jesus the reason why that's different is because
00:35:27.940paul apollos peter and jesus agree that's the difference paul did not have a different doctrine
00:35:39.700than jesus and this is the same argument that progressive deconstructing liberal god-hating
00:35:48.660christians and they're not actually christians people like brandon robertson i think is his
00:35:53.900name james white and jeff durbin recently debated him um people like this what do they do
00:35:59.480think about it remember what do they do what would a feminist do feminist theologians
00:36:06.260lgbt affirming theologians what do they do they are constantly trying to trump paul with jesus
00:36:13.860that's not what first corinthians chapter one verses 10 through 12 is saying right that's not
00:36:20.680what paul is saying to the corinthians right because notice he doesn't just say because
00:36:25.800what you would think the way that people use this verse you would think that paul would say
00:36:29.700you know um you guys are quarreling and that's not good some of you say i follow paul some say
00:36:35.440i follow apollo some say i follow peter but what you should do is just say i follow jesus
00:36:40.660but that's not the text paul cites that or i follow christ that that position in the context
00:36:48.660of his argument is also a quarrelsome position think about that for a second let that sit
00:36:53.740for a moment just chew on that marinate on that for a second paul is citing right along
00:36:58.940the categories of i follow paul i follow apollos i follow cephas again that's peter or i follow
00:37:05.620christ i follow jesus is being cited as an example of being quarrelsome because the people who are
00:37:14.500claiming to follow one of these men or in the case of christ the god man the son of god in all these
00:37:21.140cases they're not talking about their doctrine that's not what's going on here the people that
00:37:28.000Paul's writing to, the Corinthians, they are aware that there is theological unity and perfect
00:37:36.960alignment between the apostles and Christ. So when people say, well, I follow Paul, they're not saying
00:37:43.020Paul teaches one thing and Jesus teaches something else. And I choose Paul over Jesus.
00:37:49.060No one's making that argument. That's not what Paul's addressing with the Corinthian church.
00:37:53.740he goes right after this i don't have it for the screen but right after this he goes into baptism
00:37:59.100and he actually says i thank god that i did not baptize anyone and then he says well but i did
00:38:05.300baptize this household and maybe this other one and you know if there's anybody else that i baptized
00:38:09.580beyond that i can't remember because apparently he did baptize but he goes on and says before i did
00:38:14.940not come to baptize not that baptism is wrong somebody needs to baptize but he says as an
00:38:19.860apostle of christ not as a local elder in the church but primarily as an apostle of christ on
00:38:25.440a missionary journey going to as many people as possible and staying for a short time in each of
00:38:30.020these places my chief aim is to simply preach not not to baptize but to preach but it's not
00:38:37.880what i'm trying to say is it's not random that the apostle paul has this text that we've just
00:38:44.880read that's on the screen right now and then goes from that and talks about baptism
00:38:48.660what biblical scholars and commentators within the reformed tradition that are tried and true
00:38:56.340and sound solid respectable theologians that i would adhere to and trust what they say about
00:39:02.740this i think they're right is they're saying it's not so much that there's four different
00:39:07.680men represented here one being the god man christ and they represent four different theological
00:39:13.920teachings four different doctrinal confessions that that are not in harmony with one another
00:39:21.320but actually contradict the four different theological systems that contradict one another
00:39:26.520that's not what's being mentioned the reason why baptism is brought into the equation is because
00:39:31.980it's talking about people were boasting in the corinthian church about their status based off
00:39:38.300of who baptized them i was baptized by the apostle peter i was baptized by apollos i was baptized by
00:39:48.080paul i was baptized by the followers of christ his own disciples when he was still walking the earth
00:39:54.780that's what they're getting this is not four different people representing four different
00:40:00.900theological positions the apostles and jesus are not divided against each other theologically and
00:40:07.660the few instances, one that I can think of off the top of my head, where there is a doctrinal
00:40:14.020dispute, it is quickly put into order. What's the instance that I'm thinking of? The book of
00:40:19.000Galatians, right? Where it says that certain men from James, whether James the apostle actually
00:40:24.740sent them from Jerusalem or not, they claim to be from James, but they were actually probably not
00:40:29.500from James, but from the circumcision party. And they come down to check on what's happening
00:40:34.300what the ministry of Paul and Barnabas and these guys and and they come down and start preaching
00:40:40.220about circumcision being required to be a Christian that they must adhere to the law of
00:40:47.400Moses namely the ceremonial portions of the law ceremonial rituals and primarily circumcision0.92
00:40:53.600and to the point where Peter who was previously eating with the Gentiles and living like a Gentile0.94
00:41:00.820in terms of his dietary restrictions and those truly believing that these things have been0.50
00:41:05.920fulfilled by Christ, all of a sudden he kind of reverts back into his old Judaism ways and he
00:41:14.120starts distancing himself from the Gentiles and it starts to cause a division within the church0.53
00:41:20.220there. So much so that even Barnabas, Paul says, was led astray. Now what does Paul do? Well now
00:41:26.060Peter and Paul for the rest of their ministries, their public ministries, they both have
00:41:30.400contradicting a separate set of of theological persuasions no paul just addresses it and he
00:41:36.660addresses it public publicly he says i called him out to his face for he was clearly in the wrong
00:41:43.120peter was not keeping in step his actions of withdrawing from the gentiles were not in step
00:41:50.320it was hypocrisy not keeping in step with the truth of the gospel the gospel that that were
00:41:56.900saved by grace and not by adherence to the ceremonial rituals of the law of god but that
00:42:02.760christ is the final and perfect fulfillment of those things and that we're saved by grace through
00:42:07.640faith alone peter his his actions his hands and feet withdrawing from the gentiles to impress
00:42:16.040these men who are you know sent from james allegedly whether they were or not that was
00:42:22.360hypocrisy because it's not as keeping in step with his doctrine so paul actually one he's not
00:42:29.380actually even even correcting peter's doctrine he's saying you're not keeping in step with the
00:42:35.720gospel that i know you believe so i know that you and i agree on doctrine you're just not living it
00:42:41.580out currently and you need to that's one of the only big disputes i mean we have other where you
00:42:48.100know paul and barnabas they part ways but they don't part ways over calvinism they don't part
00:42:53.440ways over reform soteriology or whether or not unconditional election is found in the scripture
00:42:58.220they part ways over over who should be in their ministry team namely john mark and even that
00:43:06.560seems to be reconciled later on when the apostle paul who did not think that mark should come with
00:43:11.420him and barnabas thought that they that he should they still bless each other they're amicable it's
00:43:16.260a sharp dispute, but they ultimately bless each other to work in different portions of the Lord's
00:43:20.380vineyard. They're not disagreeing doctrinally. They're just disagreeing over the credentials
00:43:25.060of an individual based off of his past failures. And then later on, the apostle Paul says,
00:43:30.660send to me John Mark for I'm in need of him recognizing, Hey, I think I got that one wrong.
00:43:36.120Or even if he's not admitting that he got it wrong, he's saying, well, if Mark was suspect
00:43:40.340before, he's not suspect any longer because Barnabas did some good work with discipling
00:43:46.180John Mark and he's solid now. These are like the only example, you don't look through the pages
00:43:53.840of the New Testament and see Peter and Paul disagreeing with each other. So when he says
00:43:59.480that I hear there's quarreling among you, my brothers, what I mean, he's saying, what kind
00:44:05.380of quarreling here's the example of the quarreling i'm talking about one says i follow paul one says
00:44:10.960i follow apollos one says i follow cephas one says i follow christ paul is not saying that these are
00:44:17.000four different individuals with four different contradicting theological positions
00:44:23.280and you adhering to one and saying that it's right while implying that the others are wrong
00:44:31.360is what it means to be quarrelsome that's not what he's saying because these guys agree
00:44:36.360paul and peter agree theologically and paul despite the progressive lgbt affirming feminist theologian
00:44:44.480paul agrees with jesus and jesus agrees with paul to use pauline epistles in the new testament
00:44:52.840for our our biblical support for homosexuality being a sin or a woman not being permitted to
00:44:59.440teach or exercise authority over a man to use paul is to use jesus it is the words of christ
00:45:06.640it's god's word it's breathed out by god it's scripture it is the word of god it's not paul
00:45:13.980versus jesus it's all jesus it's all the word of god paul is speaking as an apostle of christ
00:45:21.200with apostolic authority meaning he is speaking upon the authority which christ gave him that
00:45:27.300Christ commissioned him as a messenger, as an apostle, an erander of Christ's authority and
00:45:34.560message. So these guys are not doctrinally contradicting one another. The quarreling that
00:45:40.780was going on in Corinth is not saying, well, I agree with Paul's theology and you agree with
00:45:48.000Cephas, Peter's theology, and these are two different contradicting theologies. No, it's
00:45:52.680saying rather it's saying um paul's a bigger deal than peter peter's a bigger deal than paul and i
00:45:58.760have paul you know paul benefits paul advantages because i was baptized by paul uh well i was
00:46:06.000baptized by peter and to be baptized by peter is a bigger deal than being baptized by paul well i'm
00:46:11.040better than all of you i was baptized by jesus that that's what he's addressing he's addressing
00:46:16.360people making certain claims of of having close vicinity to big names in in the first century
00:46:24.780church apostles and jesus of course himself is the cornerstone and using that as their basis for
00:46:30.880being higher up on the pecking order it's not a conversation about differing contradicting
00:46:38.060doctrines so when somebody engages in the debate and says i think calvin is right in his
00:46:44.440interpretation of scripture and jacobus arminius is wrong and then someone says well that's what
00:46:49.920paul's talking about first corinthians 1 you're saying i follow john calvin you're saying you
00:46:54.880follow jacobus arminius but really i just follow jesus you've completely misunderstood paul's point
00:47:00.280in first corinthians 1 completely all right let's go on um i think that may be it do we have another
00:47:06.160text here we go romans 16 17 and 18 i appeal to you brothers to watch out for those who cause
00:47:13.840divisions who are the quarrelsome types who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the
00:47:20.780doctrine that you have been taught avoid these people here they are for such persons do not
00:47:26.980serve our lord christ but their own appetites by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts
00:47:35.580of the naive by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive so who are the
00:47:43.740people who introduce divisions cause divisions the people who are really harsh in their tongue
00:47:49.440no not according to this verse of the bible the people that paul's talking again paul here
00:47:59.240in romans that he's talking about that cause division and create obstacles contrary to the
00:48:05.180doctrine that they have been taught these people who are just serving their own appetites and not
00:48:10.720serving the lord jesus these people who are divisive who are quarrelsome are people who don't
00:48:18.880have harsh tone but smooth tone the people who are divisive and quarrelsome in this text are not
00:48:27.100the ones with harsh tone but the ones with smooth tone so let's just give an example modern day
00:48:35.360example. Joel Osteen or Paul Washer, which one is quarrelsome by the Bible's definition?
00:48:48.060Joel Osteen versus Paul Washer, which one is causing division? Which one is using smooth
00:48:57.240talk and flattery and deceiving the hearts of the naive it's not Paul Washer it's Joel Osteen
00:49:07.600of course it is but by human standards especially in our culture today where it's all about being
00:49:17.860nice by human standards very few people would think of Joel Osteen as being quarrelsome
00:49:23.880Now, there's a lot of Christians by the grace of God who have sound doctrine, who are truly born again, believe the gospel, and they're able to recognize that Joel Osteen is a false teacher.
00:49:34.080And so there's a lot of Christians that would say, Joel Osteen is a false teacher.
00:49:39.700But even they, not all of them, would be willing to say, Joel Osteen is a false teacher and he's quarrelsome.