The NXR Podcast - July 27, 2026


CN Weekly - BREAKINGļ¼š Lawfare against Fishback DEFEATED


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00:00:00.000 All right, this is NXR Studios. We're going live today with governor candidate James Fishback in
00:00:06.200 the state of Florida. What recently transpired is that Jay Collins, who is virtually at this point
00:00:13.140 nothing more than a running mate for Byron Donalds, is basically playing the oldest trick
00:00:18.800 in the book. He's engaging in lawfare against James Fishback and trying pretty humorously to
00:00:27.080 say that James Fishback is not a candidate to actually be in this race, that he should be off
00:00:33.240 the ballot because he's not a true Floridian. Now, you would think that Jay Collins would go
00:00:38.020 after someone like Byron Donalds, who grew up and was raised in Brooklyn and moved to Florida. But
00:00:43.460 nope, he's doing the dirty work of Byron Donalds so that he can keep his hands clean in the race
00:00:49.900 as Jay Collins gets in the mud and tries to take down a legitimate candidate for this race. So we
00:00:56.520 are going to break this story with James Fishback on this live stream right now. Tune in. Don't go
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00:02:28.460 And now, back to our show.
00:02:32.280 Radical Christian nationalist pastor, Joel Webin.
00:02:36.380 Joel Webin.
00:02:37.240 Joel Webin.
00:02:38.040 I'm going to talk about Joel Webin.
00:02:39.420 Joel Webin is an accident.
00:02:44.040 the unstoppable the inevitable mr james fishback himself welcome to the show
00:03:06.080 thank you guys break it down james what's going on
00:03:11.000 well the lord said no weapon formed us formed against us shall prosper and the lord delivered
00:03:19.840 for our campaign this was a victory that only our lord and savior jesus christ could have
00:03:24.940 navigated could have orchestrated and i'm grateful for him first and foremost this attempt to remove
00:03:30.260 us from the ballot has been rejected by a tallahassee judge i will remain on your ballot
00:03:36.720 and in 22 days, we will pull off the biggest upset in American politics. We will advance
00:03:42.620 an unapologetic, pro-Christian, pro-America agenda that speaks the truth and never apologizes for it.
00:03:50.300 Let's go. You sent us, actually, a little bit of the language from the judge. Praise God,
00:03:56.620 because as you know, one of the problems in this country, I don't know how Florida's doing, but
00:04:01.020 the rest of the country, James, is not great when it comes to lawfare, when it comes to crooked
00:04:07.120 judges, letting criminals off the hook, taking a white person, and regardless of what should be
00:04:14.460 said, criminalizing someone, going against the First Amendment. We just saw the case recently
00:04:19.820 with Shiloh. So we have judges doing terrible things all the time. But the judge in your case,
00:04:27.100 I'm reading some of what they wrote. And right here at the end, it said, what does it say?
00:04:33.500 This court will not be deciding the race between the lieutenant governor and Mr. Fishback. That
00:04:38.660 will be in the very sound hands of the voters. Amen. It's about time a court, a judge in America
00:04:46.280 actually said something that makes sense, something that's fair, right? That actually says, no,
00:04:50.740 this is the voter's job. We're not going to say, oh, people, you know, James Fishback,
00:04:55.100 God forbid that he's getting a little bit of motion. And so we're going to cheat and we're
00:04:59.280 going to rig the system and make sure that he doesn't have a fighting chance. No, the voters
00:05:02.760 actually get to decide. You don't get to, oh no, this guy, he's actually gaining ground in the
00:05:08.000 campaign. And so we're going to go and shut him down through the back door. The judge made the
00:05:12.160 right call and I'm grateful for it. He absolutely did make the right call. A 25-page order, scathing
00:05:19.460 order against this deep state lawfare, weaponized attempt to remove us from the ballot. In America,
00:05:25.660 if you want to beat somebody in the election, you've got a better plan, better campaign,
00:05:29.420 better message. You don't drag them into court and pull the Democrat tricks to remove them from
00:05:35.340 the ballot. They tried it against President Trump. It failed. They tried it against our campaign,
00:05:40.340 and it miserably, spectacularly just failed once again. 22 days, Joel, and by God's grace and the
00:05:48.600 trust of the voters, we will pull off a historic upset in this election. It is time to say the
00:05:54.380 truth. And I don't care if it offends anyone. None of our founding fathers were Jewish. None
00:06:00.240 of our founding fathers were Hindu. None of our founding fathers were Muslim. This country was
00:06:05.860 built on Christian values, Christian principles. It needs to remain a safe place for Christians.
00:06:12.620 And that's only possible if we put Jesus Christ at the center of our politics once again.
00:06:18.100 amen um so we we had the privilege me and my team of uh being with james and uh being on the ground
00:06:24.880 and seeing the energy which really is a sight to behold there are so many young people and old
00:06:30.980 people for that matter but lots of young people who are probably a lot of the guys that i talked
00:06:36.220 to at the rally that we did with you james a couple weeks ago are these are not people who've
00:06:40.140 always been you know in engaged in politics but they just they know the hour they know what time
00:06:45.520 it is. They've seen your campaign. They've seen the things that you stand for. And a lot of these
00:06:50.320 guys are going to be casting their first local election votes on August 18th. But I want to ask
00:06:57.120 you, what does it take in real terms? What is it going to take for you to win? Because I think
00:07:02.140 you're going to win. And I know what I think it takes, but I want to hear from you. What is it
00:07:07.140 that has to happen in order to get this upset that you're speaking about? Two things. We as a
00:07:14.520 campaign need to continue to be consistent, showing up every single day campaigning hard.
00:07:18.800 We are the first campaign in Florida history running for governor to meet voters in all
00:07:24.540 Florida's 67 counties. That's historic. And we're going to continue that motion of just showing up,
00:07:30.520 whether it's at diners, outside of universities, local restaurants, talking with voters face to
00:07:36.800 face, there's nothing like it. And for those voters who meet us, who hear about us on NXR
00:07:41.540 or see us at a diner in their neighborhood, I'm asking them to tell three voters that they know
00:07:48.040 that they are supporting Fishback for governor on August 18th. If everyone who loves Florida shows
00:07:54.440 up, we will be an unstoppable force. We've gone from 2% in the polls to now nearly 40%. This is
00:08:02.240 a two-man race between Byron Donalds and us. And that's why this deep state attempt to remove us
00:08:08.660 from the ballot was undertaken.
00:08:10.980 They knew the only way they could truly stop us
00:08:13.340 was in court.
00:08:14.400 They failed, and now we will stop them
00:08:16.900 on the ballot box on August 18th.
00:08:19.080 It's so monumental to actually get a victory, too.
00:08:21.380 I think of the biggest cases of lawfare
00:08:23.180 against conservatives.
00:08:24.140 You mentioned Donald Trump already,
00:08:25.620 but I think of Steve Bannon.
00:08:26.740 He was demanded to produce documents
00:08:28.300 for January 6th by the committee.
00:08:30.140 He wasn't even there.
00:08:30.920 They threw him in jail.
00:08:31.820 I think he's almost 70 years old.
00:08:33.740 There was also the Catholic man,
00:08:35.040 maybe you know of him, James, Mark Hook.
00:08:37.100 the FBI raided his home at gunpoint for his abortion activism at gunpoint. They hauled him
00:08:42.600 away. They arrested him under the FACE Act, under the Biden administration. And in all of these
00:08:47.000 cases, you had the Biden administration, the court system winning against conservatives,
00:08:51.800 throwing them into jail. And ultimately, when you lose the case, when you get thrown in jail,
00:08:56.680 you can come in on the back end and collect your grievances. Mark actually received a payout from
00:09:00.280 the federal government. But it's also good to get in there and say, no, actually, we won this
00:09:04.140 straight up on the ground. You don't have the right to do this. This lawsuit was wrong. We're
00:09:08.340 taking our W at the front, not on the back end, complaining about how unjustly we were treated.
00:09:14.160 Yeah, well said. That's exactly right. And this is part of an ongoing pattern. What you'll notice
00:09:20.140 is that nearly all of the individuals that are subject to this are white Christian men. I'm not
00:09:26.820 one of those Republicans who will quickly discount systemic racism. I actually think there is
00:09:30.760 systemic racism, it's not against George Floyd. It's against white Christian men who dare step up
00:09:36.920 and challenge this corrupt, broken, and one-sided system. We've seen it happen to Tucker Carlson.
00:09:42.900 We've seen it happen to Steve Bannon. We've seen it happen to President Trump himself. We've seen
00:09:48.120 it happen to white Christian pastors who dared stand outside of an abortion clinic and pray,
00:09:54.320 pray that women change their mind and not fall for the slanderous lies of Margaret Sanger,
00:09:59.780 not fall for the death trap of Planned Parenthood. And so I, as a candidate and our campaign,
00:10:05.300 our team, we don't miss church for anything on Sunday. We pray together, we eat together.
00:10:11.340 One of my staff members slept on my couch last night because we are dedicated first and foremost
00:10:16.420 to advancing the gospel of Jesus Christ. Nowadays, Republicans will tell you that
00:10:21.980 they are principled conservatives. Next time someone says they're a principled conservative,
00:10:25.960 ask them, sir, where do you draw your principles from? For me, it's a very easy question to answer.
00:10:31.880 I draw my principles from two places, the United States Constitution and the gospel of my Lord and
00:10:37.720 Savior, Jesus Christ. Yeah, well said. Yeah, the principled conservatives of today, what they
00:10:42.920 really mean is we're principled pluralist, which is another way of just saying we're compromised.
00:10:48.280 Principled conservatives today are compromised conservatives. What they're saying is that,
00:10:52.240 well, at the end of the day, we're carving out some kind of inclusive space for all these
00:10:59.380 different things, whether it's actually good for America or bad for America, whether it's good for
00:11:04.300 the core of America or bad for the core of America. Tolerance is such an overrated virtue today
00:11:13.100 because the Bible does speak. I'm not saying that it's foreign to the Gospels. Jesus talks about
00:11:18.640 there are instances in context where we turn the other cheek, right? Or we're asked to go one mile
00:11:24.480 with the Roman centurion, and yet we go the extra mile. That's where that phrase comes from,
00:11:29.700 go the extra mile. So the Bible certainly talks about patience. It talks about kindness, and
00:11:34.320 there is a sense of long-suffering and even tolerance. The problem, though, is that America
00:11:40.500 is one-sided in its tolerance. Modernity has allowed us to be tolerant towards things that
00:11:47.640 the Lord actually doesn't tolerate, that we have tolerated every kind of religion except for the
00:11:52.760 religion that built the country, namely Christianity. We've tolerated women, but no tolerance for men.
00:11:58.280 We've tolerated every kind of ethnicity or nationality except for heritage Americans. And so
00:12:03.520 the tolerance street has become weaponized. There's an agenda, and it's so clear with anyone
00:12:10.320 who has eyes to see. But if you come up against this, it's like all hell breaks loose and everyone
00:12:18.060 will try anything to stop you. At first, they'll say, James Fishback doesn't matter. He doesn't
00:12:23.200 have a snowflakes chance in hell. This isn't a real campaign. And then all of a sudden,
00:12:28.160 they're dragging you into court because they recognize it very much is a real campaign.
00:12:32.520 My question, James, though, is in the case of Jay Collins, if he was running a serious race for
00:12:38.220 governor, right? Because he's a governor candidate, the same as you, the same as Byron. If he was
00:12:41.760 running a serious case for governor, why wouldn't he go after the guy who allegedly, right, that
00:12:48.340 people are saying is the shoe-in, the guy who's for sure going to win, Byron Donalds? Why does
00:12:53.680 he go after you? Because to me, from the outside looking in, it kind of, in God's providence,
00:12:59.860 I think it serves you well. I'm sure it was a headache, you know, and God was merciful,
00:13:03.900 and we thank God for his kindness. But in God's providence, it really is a mercy in the sense that
00:13:10.840 to me, what this should convey to the watcher, anybody who cares about this race, is that
00:13:16.580 according to Jay Collins, someone on the inside, he sees you as a more potent threat than he does
00:13:22.860 Byron Donalds. How would you interpret that? Why did he go after you? Why not Byron?
00:13:27.540 because he and byron are on the same team the team that is pro h1b pro legal immigration pro
00:13:35.860 apac they've both taken hundreds of thousands of dollars from apac and so i think it's pretty
00:13:40.440 clear what happened here byron donald's told jay collins you can remain on as lieutenant governor
00:13:45.340 if you go and drag james fish back to court and attempt to remove his name from the ballot
00:13:50.480 This attempt was funded and fueled by both of these camps.
00:13:55.720 That's clear as day.
00:13:57.160 They both celebrated it.
00:13:58.440 They both welcomed it.
00:13:59.520 And now they will both have to lick their wounds.
00:14:02.000 They lost in court.
00:14:03.100 And on August 18th, they will lose in the ballot box.
00:14:06.060 That's why Floridians need to step up and say, look, to those who might say, well, why
00:14:12.740 does this election matters?
00:14:14.360 Because this election is the only election in the Florida history where a candidate has
00:14:19.480 actually been the victim of lawfare, where a campaign was actually targeted for removal from
00:14:26.220 the ballot. Anybody who questions our campaign, well, how do we know Fishback's legit? We're the
00:14:31.740 only campaign that has threatened the establishment to its very core, to where they had to go hire
00:14:37.600 Nikki Haley's lawyers, bring them in and try to sue us off the ballot. That's all voters need to
00:14:43.980 know about our campaign and its threat to the very deep state establishment that would auction
00:14:49.500 us off and sell us off, treat us more and more like an economic zone as opposed to the nation
00:14:54.860 that we proudly are. Well said. Yeah. No, I like that point, that last point, especially because
00:14:59.460 I think perhaps the naive part of me would like to think that this is even deeper than what's
00:15:04.520 happening in Florida and what your campaign represents to Florida voters. I think that to
00:15:08.060 your point, this is the reason you're getting attacked so much, both from people in Florida,
00:15:12.480 But more importantly, from people outside of Florida is because I think of what you represent to them in terms of this new brand of politics, highly energized, you know, almost as like you look, you think about Mom Donnie, right?
00:15:25.400 And the mayoral campaign there and what that represented for the far left.
00:15:28.620 Everyone from California to Colorado, they're all looking at this campaign like, let's see what this guy can do.
00:15:34.100 And he'll give us a playbook to win for elections, you know, in the next two years and the four years and so on and so forth.
00:15:40.320 I'm curious what you make of that, James.
00:15:41.900 obviously we've got a big listener base in Florida who are concerned and deeply invested,
00:15:47.120 I think, in your campaign. But we also I'm always pleasantly surprised to find that we have people
00:15:51.540 in Texas, for example, who are super invested and like, no, fishback needs to win. I'm all in on
00:15:56.240 fishback because I think what as you know, as goes Florida, so goes the nation. I'm curious
00:16:00.700 what you make of that that general assessment. That's right. And that's why we've seen strong
00:16:07.340 support from people all over the country. You know, you got to admit, so Ron Mamdani has a
00:16:12.560 little bit of flair, a little bit of style. And when he won that race, as much as you and I might
00:16:17.260 disagree with his policies, it was the biggest shot of euphoria for the Democrat socialist and
00:16:23.540 the left wing of the Democrat party, because now there was proof this could work. And so I'm not
00:16:29.440 happy that it's working in New York. I think it's going to end in tears. But at the end of the day,
00:16:34.260 That same euphoria, I think, will come for our wing of the Republican Party, the America First wing, when we win this race.
00:16:41.240 And remember, this race will largely be won on August 18th.
00:16:44.480 Of course, we have a general election, but Florida is such a red state that if we win on August 18th, it's practically a foregone conclusion.
00:16:51.860 And so over the next 21 days, we've got to put all of our energy in to everyone watching who lives in Florida, vote for our campaign on August 18th.
00:17:00.480 Not just you, but your wife, your kids, your neighbor.
00:17:02.500 And even if you don't live in Florida, odds are you know someone who does.
00:17:06.580 Pick up your phone now.
00:17:08.300 Text two or three people.
00:17:09.720 Tell them that you're supporting James Fishback for Florida governor.
00:17:13.040 The Republican primary is on August 18th.
00:17:15.420 And if every patriot shows up to vote, we win and it's over.
00:17:19.920 That's awesome.
00:17:22.380 Right now, I know that I've got guys, they don't live in Florida.
00:17:25.200 Guys, again, like Antonio said, in Texas, some in Tennessee who are all, you know,
00:17:29.500 occasionally when they have time are clocking in volunteer hours, hitting the phone bank. Is there
00:17:35.700 any, is there any, a website or, or somewhere where our listeners can go if they want to help
00:17:41.240 volunteer some of their time? Absolutely. Phonefishback.com. Phonefishback.com is the
00:17:49.060 best place right now. If you can donate one hour of your day for the next 21 days, we can reach
00:17:56.320 another quarter million voters who are presently undecided. And I can tell you, as someone who
00:18:01.560 personally calls a couple hundred voters every single day, a four to five minute phone call,
00:18:06.120 a real person talking to another real person flips voters fast. And so if you want to see
00:18:12.920 us win this election on August 18th, I'm asking you to go to phonefishback.com right now,
00:18:18.960 sign up to donate one hour of your time every day for the next 21 days so we can phone bank and we
00:18:25.600 can win. See, the thing, Joel, is we don't want to win this by one or two percentage points and
00:18:30.300 then let the corrupt establishment say, look, it was a fluke. We need to pull off a massive victory
00:18:36.840 to send a message to every last crevics of the deep state that we have won, that we are reviving
00:18:43.880 the founding ideals of this country from 1776, that this is a moment for American excellence
00:18:50.420 like Ronald Reagan's election was in 1980,
00:18:53.200 like Donald Trump's original election was in 2016,
00:18:56.380 like Ron DeSantis' election was in 2018.
00:18:59.440 That's what we have the ability to do on August 18th.
00:19:02.300 And I'm asking anyone, wherever you are in the country,
00:19:05.800 to go to phonefishback.com right now
00:19:09.760 and sign up to Phone Bank for our campaign.
00:19:12.960 The latest and last deep state attempt
00:19:15.780 to remove us from the ballot just failed.
00:19:18.240 And it's about to be over for the deep state that's trying to destroy us.
00:19:22.580 We will win on August 18th.
00:19:24.640 All right.
00:19:26.060 You mentioned Ron DeSantis.
00:19:28.100 And, you know, as I'm thinking about him, I wish that I could be a fly on the wall and
00:19:33.400 just hear, you know, some kind of private conversation between him and his staff or
00:19:38.700 his friends.
00:19:39.720 You know, I feel like he's got to be watching this because wasn't Ron DeSantis an underdog?
00:19:45.060 Wasn't he not like you, like not supposed to win, and yet he was able, by the grace of God,
00:19:51.140 to pull it off and go on to be arguably the greatest governor that Florida's ever had?
00:19:56.160 Isn't your story, at least your campaigning story in politics, somewhat similar?
00:20:02.360 Very, very similar. Governor DeSantis was born and raised here. I'm the only candidate running
00:20:07.040 for governor who was actually born and raised here. His family's been here for generations.
00:20:11.520 My family's been here for generations. Ron DeSantis wasn't just the underdog in this race.
00:20:16.660 He was the underdog at this very moment in the race. In fact, some polls compared to Ron DeSantis
00:20:23.080 back in 2018, some polls have us polling ahead of where Governor DeSantis was with just three
00:20:28.240 weeks left. And so Ron DeSantis pulled off a historic upset in 2018, and we are primed to
00:20:33.740 do the same. Why? Because we're not political politicians. We're not professional establishment
00:20:40.340 hacks. We're proven outsiders. Ron DeSantis was the youngest guy to ever be a Republican governor
00:20:46.860 in Florida. I would beat him by just a few years. And so there's something very special
00:20:51.020 about young men rising up at the 250 mark of our great country. I'm reminded that Jefferson was
00:20:57.840 merely 35 years old at the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Madison was 25.
00:21:03.860 Hamilton was 21. Young men built this country. And Joel, I know that you and I both believe that
00:21:09.900 young men will save this country. Saving this country starts with winning this election and
00:21:15.660 sending a resounding and unequivocal message that it's time to put America first.
00:21:21.100 Yeah. And it's interesting that, you know, in the case of DeSantis, I mean, you have Byron and he's
00:21:27.720 got lots of AIPAC money. He's got the Miriam Adelson money behind him. And unfortunately,
00:21:33.960 he has the Trump endorsement. I don't know if he would have the Trump endorsement if it was Trump's
00:21:38.180 first administration, which seems so long ago, but within the second administration and whatever's
00:21:44.040 going on there, he does have the endorsement, but he does not have Ron DeSantis' endorsement.
00:21:49.520 Do you have any thoughts about that? Well, the governor's right because the governor said,
00:21:54.380 I'm not going to endorse someone who, quote, has not been part of the wins in Florida.
00:21:58.480 Byron Donalds was nowhere to be found when Florida was fighting off the woke, fighting off the left,
00:22:03.720 fighting off the progressives who are trying to shut our state down.
00:22:07.020 We posted a video this morning of Byron Donalds recounting how January 6th was one of the darkest days in America.
00:22:14.600 I mean, what kind of Republican is this guy?
00:22:16.540 He talks about January 6th, the insurrection, the riot.
00:22:19.660 There was no riot.
00:22:20.800 There was a peaceful protester.
00:22:22.200 The only person who was actually harmed that day, who was murdered in cold blood, was Ashley Babbitt,
00:22:29.320 a white woman who was killed by a black police officer who was never so much as charged for
00:22:35.800 murdering an Air Force veteran who was unarmed at a peaceful protest in broad daylight. And so we
00:22:42.460 don't need Republicans like Byron Donalds. Governor DeSantis recognizes that. And that's
00:22:46.560 why he's called him out from the beginning, that Byron Donalds would not be a good governor for
00:22:50.840 this great state of Florida. I'll draw another corollary. You mentioned Ron DeSantis and how
00:22:55.120 close his race but i mean donald trump leading up on the eve of the 2016 election against hillary
00:22:59.880 clinton depends what pollster you're looking at 90 95 chance they were giving her to win and that's
00:23:05.660 because she was an establishment favorite but here's the thing nobody was excited about her
00:23:09.720 i remember uh pictures of barack obama and i think it was uh jay-z and beyonce campaigning for her
00:23:15.500 and you could see on their face like well we've got to do this i guess we're excited nobody was
00:23:20.540 enthusiastic. However, working class white rural voters, they came out in mass for Donald Trump.
00:23:27.840 So you had this low propensity group that they had normally counted on to break for them, to break
00:23:31.420 for the establishment. They didn't. They went another way. And that was exactly the formula
00:23:35.200 to his success. And in the same way in Florida, in a primary, young men, young voters, they're
00:23:40.820 typically not engaged. They're typically not interested. But I go to your rally, James. I see
00:23:44.440 young men and young women volunteering. I see them holding signs. I see them showing up. And
00:23:48.240 And that's exactly, if you could, you probably agree with me here, exactly the group you're
00:23:52.160 counting on to come out and say, yeah, normally if you were tallying up the polls, you wouldn't
00:23:55.920 think these people would come out and vote, but they're coming out to vote. And historically,
00:23:58.820 when we look at a candidate that pulls off an upset, that's how they do it. These people don't
00:24:03.320 normally vote, but they're actually excited. And so they come out in droves come election day.
00:24:07.960 Right. And that's what it's going to take for a Florida race because the boomers, God bless them.
00:24:13.300 We love them. We will miss them. I know it doesn't always feel like it, but listen to me,
00:24:17.020 young man. We will, in some sense, miss them when they're gone. They have been a voting block that
00:24:21.380 has helped in many cases. There are certain things that we won't miss, but there are certain things
00:24:26.900 that we will. That said, right, there's pros and cons on both sides of the aisle. But the boomers,
00:24:34.300 as it currently pertains, the America first push that we see beginning to develop in American
00:24:41.600 politics, this idea that we're not going to be beholden to foreign interests, we're actually
00:24:45.280 you go, America first, just for the record, hopefully it goes without saying with our
00:24:48.660 listeners, but for anybody who's tuning in for the first time, America first means Americans
00:24:52.940 first. So when we say America first, we don't mean America as a sports team and that you can
00:24:58.120 hire players from Brazil and from Israel and from Uganda. And as long as they're wearing the
00:25:03.840 American flag jersey and we win in the world cup, then all of a sudden, you know, it's America first.
00:25:09.340 No, America first means that Americans, people who have been here for generations, for us and
00:25:16.300 our posterity, right? That's what our founding documents speak to, that Americans are put first.
00:25:22.460 That's what it means. And boomers, I think, have struggled with that because that was something
00:25:26.620 that they could assume. In their generation, we had not yet been flooded by immigration and H-1B
00:25:32.040 visas and all the things that we are now. And so boomers kind of still sometimes struggle just to
00:25:38.280 even believe that the the plight of young men in america is even real because they feel like in
00:25:44.440 some sense well no just you know go into the interview office you know firm handshake and a
00:25:49.940 warm smile and make eye contact and you'll get you know a job that uh you'll be able to pay off
00:25:55.100 your house in four years just like i did and then sell it for 20x you know 15 years later like but
00:26:00.120 that america's kind of gone and that's what we're trying to fix that's what we really need to fix
00:26:04.500 but the challenge as it pertains to this race in Florida with James Fishback is that Florida is
00:26:10.300 kind of like the capital of retirees, right, for the older generation. And a lot of these, again,
00:26:17.920 sweet people, right? I'm not trying to disparage them, but there is a sense in which some of them
00:26:23.000 are out of touch. And yet there's a high concentration of boomers in the state of Florida.
00:26:29.180 So one of the things that I've advocated on our show, and even we were rallying with James Fishback,
00:26:33.820 but I want to say again for the listeners, and I want James to be able to respond to this,
00:26:37.900 I think it's imperative that you don't just go and excite or ignite your 18-year-old,
00:26:45.800 you know, 21-year-old friends. That's important. Every vote counts. But some of you younger guys
00:26:51.740 who see the writing on the wall, you know that James is really, it's bigger than just Florida.
00:26:56.560 He's functioning as a canary in the coal mines for whether or not there really even is going
00:27:01.100 to be a future for America. Can we actually have a new political class that is Christ is King
00:27:07.860 and America first to save the country and bring it back to its founding roots? James represents
00:27:14.880 that. There's a whole system, a whole elite class that is trying everything they can to make sure
00:27:22.240 James doesn't win, not because they don't like James, but because they don't like you. And
00:27:27.180 they're trying to snuff out every ounce of hope that you have to make you think it's a pipe dream,
00:27:33.560 it's a fantasy, it can't happen. The way things are are the way things will always be. It's just
00:27:40.800 this big conglomerate machine. And if you recognize how important this is and you want to stand up to
00:27:48.980 that, one of the things in Florida that you need to do is you need to speak not just to your
00:27:53.860 friends, but to your grandmother, to your grandfather, to your great uncle and your
00:27:58.360 great aunt. You need to try respectfully, don't be a jerk, but respectfully to get some of the
00:28:05.620 older generation in the fight. Because a lot of them, someone once said, when you're arguing with
00:28:11.060 a boomer, you're arguing with Fox News. You're arguing with the television. And that's why the
00:28:15.620 argument is sometimes hard to win. Because you're not really always arguing with a person. They've
00:28:20.980 been told something and they believe it. But if you can show them, if you can show that great aunt
00:28:27.460 or your grandmother a clip of James saying abortion clinics need to be shut down, and then
00:28:33.780 ask your grandmother, scour the internet. You will not find that kind of rhetoric from Byron
00:28:41.100 Donalds on abortion. James has come out and said plainly, abortion is murder. And so the things
00:28:47.580 that your boomer relatives hold dear that are good and right, that the Bible champions like
00:28:54.460 the dignity of human life in the womb, James is actually the best candidate for that. But the
00:29:01.700 boomers are sadly, I'm not blaming them, but they're being lied to. James, what do you think
00:29:08.580 the angle is there? I know there's only three weeks left to go. I know you have a very specific
00:29:13.980 campaign strategy and you're crushing it. We're all rooting for you. But is there, in these last
00:29:19.740 three weeks, is there any specific talking point for the older generation that could help wake them
00:29:25.500 up and get them in this fight with you? There is, and it starts with the art of persuasion.
00:29:32.240 Anyone who has a parent, a grandparent, an aunt, an uncle, someone in their life who might be
00:29:37.240 leaning the other way in this election, talk to them, text them, call them, let them know three
00:29:41.620 things about our campaign. First and foremost, I'm the only candidate who was born and raised
00:29:46.740 in Florida. So when we say we want to bring back old Florida and stop the reckless development,
00:29:50.760 revive citrus and cattle, our identity and heritage as an agricultural state, I know that
00:29:56.320 because I grew up on that. Number two, I'm the only candidate who will actually eliminate your
00:30:01.760 property taxes full stop. Our grandparents and parents should not be paying property taxes on
00:30:07.700 home that they've long paid off and i'm the only candidate in this race as a businessman as an
00:30:12.980 investor who has a real plan that will allow floridians to never pay a property tax bill
00:30:19.060 again and number three unlike byron donald's who said that social security was an entitlement
00:30:24.660 program like medicaid and food stamps i will fight to protect social security here in florida
00:30:30.500 and that starts with first and foremost making sure there are no illegal aliens in my state
00:30:35.300 collecting Social Security at the expense of our seniors, and making sure that the COLA,
00:30:41.080 the cost of living adjustment, the inflation adjustment for Social Security checks for those
00:30:46.040 living in our state accurately keeps up with real inflation. I'm the only candidate looking out for
00:30:51.860 our seniors. I'm the only candidate fighting for working families, and I'm the only candidate
00:30:56.100 that's going to make it easier for a young couple to buy a home, to marry a God-fearing woman,
00:31:01.400 and to raise God-fearing children.
00:31:04.060 This is not about one group over the other.
00:31:06.140 I'm honored to have so much youth support.
00:31:08.500 But our plan, our campaign is the best campaign,
00:31:11.820 not just for young voters, but for families,
00:31:14.940 but for parents and grandparents as well.
00:31:17.220 And anyone and everyone should call their parents,
00:31:20.120 call their grandparents, their aunt and their uncle.
00:31:22.460 Become a phone dialer, a phone banker for our campaign
00:31:24.760 at phonefishback.com.
00:31:26.760 And in the meantime, in between time,
00:31:28.460 after listening to this interview,
00:31:30.020 Pick up the phone and call or text three people you know who live in Florida and tell them
00:31:34.920 you're supporting James Fishback for governor on August 18th.
00:31:38.700 That's how we win this race.
00:31:41.360 Well said.
00:31:42.620 Here at the end, is there any final word?
00:31:46.500 Well, let me ask this, actually.
00:31:47.560 You recently did a debate, I guess it's been a couple weeks at this point, on Patrick Bet
00:31:52.180 David, his platform.
00:31:54.100 You had Jay Collins.
00:31:56.140 Who's the other guy?
00:31:57.480 I'm not being facetious.
00:31:58.500 I actually forgot.
00:31:59.480 Paul Renner.
00:32:00.020 Paul Renner. Okay. So there's probably a subliminal point that I just made there. I didn't mean to.
00:32:05.260 From what I watched with that debate, actually, Paul, I thought, you know, I thought that he was
00:32:10.860 the more respectable out of between him and Jay Collins. So anyway, so no, I didn't mean to
00:32:16.380 disparage him. But those three, there was somebody that was, you know, quite painstakingly, obviously
00:32:22.080 absent from that debate, namely Byron Donalds, who doesn't think he has to debate. Even though
00:32:26.700 Ron DeSantis himself, we've seen him tweeting out saying, yeah, I think that the candidates
00:32:31.360 should have to debate. My question is that with three weeks left on the clock, is there any
00:32:38.060 rumblings of potentials of a debate or anything like that going to be happening?
00:32:44.120 There are some rumblings. And when that news breaks, that news will break. But I'll tell
00:32:48.160 you that Patrick Bett David is an American patriot. He put together the debate between
00:32:52.280 myself, Jay Collins, and Paul Renner. And I spoke to him earlier this week. He is putting
00:32:56.340 together a debate right as we speak between Byron Donalds and myself. I've already accepted that
00:33:01.900 debate without any conditions. I hope that Byron Donalds will as well. The voters deserve to see
00:33:08.120 the candidates on stage, side by side, debating and sharing their platform. President Trump
00:33:13.760 did it 11 times when he ran for president back in 2016. Ron DeSantis did it two times when he
00:33:20.340 ran for governor back in 2018. The voters, no matter where you live, no matter who you're
00:33:26.700 supporting, you deserve to see your candidates up there and may the best man win. Well said.
00:33:33.340 In the case of Trump, I've heard some people, you know, the counter that they would present is they
00:33:36.700 say, well, Trump didn't debate when he was running for a second term. It's like, yeah,
00:33:40.580 but there is, I think we can all admit, a little bit of a difference when a guy is coming for his
00:33:45.920 second term and in the case of when he was already the president correct when he was already the
00:33:51.100 president of the united states and i think had earned the benefit of the doubt exactly he had
00:33:54.940 already served in that office right and when you serve in an office when you were a public figure
00:34:00.340 for four years and you do hundreds of press conferences and hundreds of interviews it makes
00:34:04.600 sense not to stoop to that level but when president trump came on the scene in 2016 he was an avid
00:34:10.280 debater he wanted to be on that stage with the marco rubios and the jeb bushes in fact that's
00:34:15.580 really what propelled Trump to this stardom, to this first place finish in the Republican primaries
00:34:20.720 in 2016 was his incredible debate performance. He earned the ability to sidestep the debates in
00:34:26.520 2024. The only thing that Byron Donalds has ever earned was a couple hundred bucks selling weed
00:34:31.340 back in 1997, for which he was arrested and charged, and the $6 million that he earned
00:34:36.260 trading stocks like Nancy Pelosi in Congress. Nobody believes that Byron Donalds is suddenly
00:34:40.920 the black Warren Buffett. This guy is not a financial genius. He's using inside information
00:34:46.620 to trade stocks, to corrupt the system, and he's profiting while the rest of us are struggling in
00:34:52.240 what is not exactly a golden age. And so that's why Byron Donald needs to get on that debate stage.
00:34:57.460 I think we're going to win whether or not he debates, but I'll tell you this, Joel,
00:35:01.120 if Byron Donald steps on that debate stage 90 minutes later when he steps off, it won't just
00:35:07.120 be the end of this race it will be the end of his career and the career of republican establishment
00:35:12.460 politicians who lie in our face and run roughshod over our nation yeah well said and tony you were
00:35:19.380 gonna say something no i was just gonna say you know when you're running against a guy like byron
00:35:23.240 donald's i do i'm just curious what you think you know if anyone was going to steal an election
00:35:28.080 it's got to be the felon that's funny all right james any final words
00:35:34.620 my final words are this luke 646 why do you call me lord lord and not do as i say this race has
00:35:45.600 always been about putting christ at the center of everything that we do we were the first campaign
00:35:51.060 in history to consecrate our entire campaign to the sacred heart of jesus christ we attend church
00:35:58.340 together every sunday as a campaign and our campaign has been unapologetic in professing
00:36:03.560 our faith. We've said, no, we're not going to compromise on abortion. We are going to
00:36:07.680 effectuate the words of Jeremiah chapter one, verse five, and say proudly and loudly that life
00:36:13.260 begins at conception. We are not going to compromise on this idea that our homeland is
00:36:19.140 allowed to be invaded by legal or illegal immigration. And we will never compromise
00:36:23.700 on the idea that our workers can be swapped out like players on a European soccer team.
00:36:29.220 No, American workers, Americans are at the heart of the America First movement.
00:36:34.100 When we say America First, we don't mean America GDP first, no matter the cost.
00:36:38.440 We don't mean the American stock market first, no matter the cost.
00:36:41.800 We mean the flesh and blood of the United States.
00:36:45.560 The people who make this country great have to be at the front of the line.
00:36:50.240 That's what I am fighting for, to be Florida's next governor, and fighting to send a message
00:36:54.660 to every last corner of our nation.
00:36:56.420 that the movement that will carry us for the next 250 years is not the Republican movement,
00:37:01.900 the Democrat movement. It is the America First movement. And my hope is that I will have the
00:37:07.420 honor of a lifetime to win the support of Florida voters on August 18th to be able to write the
00:37:12.740 next great chapter of American history right here in Florida. All right. You heard it first, folks.
00:37:19.220 August 18th. Get out. Friends, family, rally the troops to vote for James Fishback for Florida
00:37:26.620 Governor. James, thanks for joining us. We appreciate it. That's our show for today,
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