The NXR Podcast - CN Weekly - Can Christians Vote Democrat to Punish The GOP？

00:00:00.000 And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you.

00:00:10.360 Ask what you can do for your country.

00:00:12.800 In the American Revolution, the patriots were not looking for perfect allies.

00:00:32.000 They were Protestant Republicans fighting for independence against the British Empire.

00:00:37.260 And yet, when the war demanded it, they benefited from the help of Spain, a Catholic monarchy

00:00:44.540 with its own empire, its own ambitions, and no deep ideological commitment to American liberty.

00:00:52.840 Spain did not enter the war because, in its heart of hearts, it believed in Jeffersonian

00:00:57.860 democracy. Spain did not fight Britain because it wanted to build a Protestant republic across

00:01:04.540 the Atlantic. No, Spain entered the war because Britain was its enemy too. And for that moment,

00:01:12.340 that was enough. Spanish forces attacked British positions across the Gulf Coast,

00:01:18.520 West Florida, the Caribbean, and the southern flank of the empire. Spain sent supplies. Spain

00:01:25.260 provided money. Spain applied pressure. Spain forced Britain to divide its attention, stretching

00:01:32.640 its military resources to fight a wider war than Britain wanted to fight. America did not become

00:01:40.440 Spanish as a result. America did not become a Catholic monarchy. The founders did not surrender

00:01:47.480 their principles because Spain had helped to weaken Britain. They used the opening, and here

00:01:53.860 is the part that matters. America and Spain did not remain permanent friends. After the revolution,

00:02:01.200 they bickered again. They clashed over borders, trade, navigation rights on the Mississippi River,

00:02:08.740 Florida, and the future of the continent. Spain did not need to love American liberty in order

00:02:15.540 to weaken Britain, and the Americans did not need to love Spain to accept help against the empire

00:02:22.680 that was actively trying to crush them at the time. They understood a hierarchy of threats.

00:02:30.200 They knew that Britain was the enemy in front of them in the moment, occupying their land,

00:02:36.880 taxing their people, and trying to break the rebellion.

00:02:40.480 So when Spain weakened Britain, the patriots took that advantage.

00:02:46.020 Tune in now.

00:02:48.500 Radical Christian nationalist pastor, Joel Webin.

00:02:52.520 Joel Webin?

00:02:53.680 I'm going to talk about Joel Webin.

00:02:55.620 Joel Webin is an accident.

00:03:00.200 Today, we're going to be talking about politics. Christians need to be able to think

00:03:20.720 politically, and we don't. I think that Christians, not all Christians, but I think 0.99

00:03:25.840 evangelical Christians would be an example of those who are doing a pretty good job thinking

00:03:31.680 morally. Evangelicals are bad when it comes to one premier issue, and it's a big one,

00:03:38.040 and that is the issue of Zionism. But you go down the chart on everything else. Abortion, 1.00

00:03:45.240 evangelicals in America versus Catholics. Evangelicals protect the life of the unborn. 0.98

00:03:50.780 Catholics don't. They don't. A subset of them do. They pray outside of abortion clinics, 1.00

00:03:55.320 and we're grateful for that. But talking about political statistics here in America, it's not

00:04:01.220 even close. Voting against same-sex marriage for traditional family, it's evangelicals by a

00:04:09.600 landslide, much more than mainline Protestants, much more than Catholics, much more than the

00:04:14.700 black church or anybody else. So evangelicals are good, and you might say they're good politically.

00:04:20.780 No, they're good morally 1.00

00:04:23.600 And we praise God for that

00:04:25.280 We praise God for a good moral compass

00:04:29.100 Now they're not good, again, on one big issue

00:04:32.680 That tends to kind of fuel all these other issues, right? 0.71

00:04:36.540 I hate abortion, but I love Israel

00:04:39.560 Well, just go and look at abortion

00:04:43.540 And some of the politicians that push it 1.00

00:04:45.440 I want to stop immigration 0.99

00:04:47.420 But America needs to ally with Israel 1.00

00:04:50.780 Okay, well, let's look at the Hart-Seller Act and immigration policies that have given us a flood of third world. 1.00

00:04:56.320 So I admit, I'll be the first to admit, we've done this several times. 1.00

00:04:59.480 We wrote a whole book about it. 1.00

00:05:01.880 Evangelicals are foolish and ignorant when it comes to the source, 0.99

00:05:06.500 or at least one of the dominant sources of all these different problems. 1.00

00:05:10.680 But the problems themselves, morally speaking, evangelicals are the lone bulwark that's holding back the tide.

00:05:19.960 holding back a tsunami of moral insanity here in the United States. There is a good moral impulse,

00:05:28.600 but many Christians do not have an informed, strategic, political impulse. We live in America. 0.93

00:05:37.540 It is what it is. For the last 50 years, we have been choosing the lesser of two evils.

00:05:44.240 There were two parties.

00:05:46.620 It is a two-party system.

00:05:48.720 I know that it's fun to pretend and dress up like Peter Pan and say, we're going to start

00:05:53.460 the third party, and it's going to be this, or it's going to be that, and it's going to

00:05:57.740 be a landslide.

00:05:58.640 No, right?

00:05:59.980 Restore Britain.

00:06:01.300 England has a different political system, right? 0.75

00:06:03.800 That can work there. 0.70

00:06:04.680 They have multiple parties.

00:06:06.200 That's not what we have here in America.

00:06:08.520 So we are going to have to hijack, train, disciple one of the two parties.

00:06:16.380 And that's probably going to require that we don't allow whichever party we think has the most potential of actually doing good for America.

00:06:28.220 It's probably not going to be incentivizing for them if we continue to assure them you will have our vote no matter what.

00:06:35.760 so long as you just say you know what the democrats are going to murder a million babies

00:06:41.120 we promise to murder 999 000 you know what the democrats are going to give you infinity

00:06:47.720 immigration we promise that we'll just give you infinity immigration instead of from every third

00:06:53.880 world hellhole we won't do it from somalia or haiti we'll just do it from 1.4 billion people

00:07:00.820 in India, right? If that's the dichotomy that we currently have, and it seems as though it is the

00:07:07.360 dichotomy, then at a certain point, we're going to have to say no, no. We're going to have to punish

00:07:15.940 the GOP. We're going to have to find a way in order to play politics. Again, there's a lot of

00:07:23.020 Christians, especially evangelical Christians, that are good morally, but we are retarded 0.97

00:07:29.680 politically. We don't have clear political strategy. That's what we want to talk about 0.98

00:07:35.240 in today's episode. We're going to relate it to 2026 and the midterms and some of the state

00:07:41.440 elections that are going on right now. How do we need to think strategically?

00:07:46.800 Well, the two parties are also in this time where a realignment is going to happen. If you remember

00:07:51.660 back in your grandparents' day, the Democrat Party was actually the party of the worker. They were

00:07:56.300 the New Deal Party, they were the Labor Union Party, they were the Worker Protections Party.

00:08:00.140 And so for a long time, Democrats were seen as the blue-collar workers' party that protected

00:08:04.540 the everyman. Now in 2016, Donald Trump comes to line and he realigns the party, not fundamentally

00:08:09.460 along those moral axes, your abortion, your gay marriage, and all of those things, but he realigned

00:08:14.160 by appealing to the passed-over American worker, the American worker that no longer had a job

00:08:18.980 because his work was sent to Mexico when they offshored manufacturing. And so the Republican

00:08:23.360 Party in 2016, he marched to victory largely through those Midwestern states carried along

00:08:28.680 by the working class worker. And the Democrats actually became the party of the college educated

00:08:33.900 liberal, the coastal elites. Now we're facing that same type of thing. After 12 years of Trump

00:08:39.380 haunting the primaries, haunting the general election, being on the ballot in one way or

00:08:43.940 another, we're going to see for the first time in 2028, America after Trump. We're going to see

00:08:49.760 what types of voters the Democrats will aim to appeal to. They have their own problem with their

00:08:54.440 radicals and the radical sexual left, the radical LGBTQ, the radicals on immigration. So they have

00:09:00.040 to figure out a way to sequester those and who they're going to make their broad appeal to.

00:09:03.520 But the Republican Party has the same thing. Are they going to be the party of the working class?

00:09:07.680 And are they going to be the party of the older voter? That's the big thing. You have this older

00:09:11.980 voting bloc, the moral majority from the 80s that has helped them cruise along to all of these

00:09:16.900 electoral victories, whether it was George Bush and a remnant of them in 2016 and 2024 when they

00:09:22.460 won. But they're rapidly passing away. So if they're smart, they need to be thinking about

00:09:26.160 how do I appeal to the younger voters? How do I get younger people energized and involved?

00:09:31.620 James Fishback is a great example of this, someone who's carrying forward the torch

00:09:34.900 for the next generation. But if you look at his platform and the platform of another Republican

00:09:40.060 caucusing with the same party, running for the governor of a red state, James Fishback in

00:09:44.940 Florida, Vivek Ramaswamy in Ohio, even though they're both underneath the same banner, they have

00:09:49.800 very, very, very different visions of what they're putting forward. James Fishback wants to reform

00:09:55.060 and eliminate the H-1B work visa program. He says too many individuals from overseas, even though 1.00

00:10:00.920 it's happening legally, are coming here. They're not only taking jobs, they're taking positions in 1.00

00:10:04.820 colleges that should belong to students who grew up and call Florida their home. He wants to be

00:10:09.600 explicitly Christian in the public square. Christ overall. We're taking the abortion

00:10:15.160 mills that are in the state. We're burning them to the ground, every single one of them. 0.98

00:10:18.980 We're putting up crisis pregnancy centers there. We're going to take OnlyFans, or we're going to 1.00

00:10:23.180 tax the models who do it at 50%. We're also, he called it the SIM tax. He says, if I get elected 0.75

00:10:28.020 governor, I'm taxing the men who consume OnlyFans also at 50%. We'll see how that actually plays 0.52

00:10:33.600 out. But you get the idea, the type of vision he's putting forward. It's muscular, it's Christian,

00:10:38.600 it's aimed at protecting the people of Florida, it's aimed at saying we have all this money,

00:10:43.080 we have hundreds of millions of dollars in bonds in Israel. That doesn't belong there. That's

00:10:47.160 coming back home to help families start, help young couples start a family. That's coming home 1.00

00:10:52.400 to help young couples afford a home. Florida colleges are for Florida students. It's Christian, 0.98

00:10:57.200 it's pro-Florida, pro-America. But on the other hand, you have Vivek Ramaswamy. He himself is

00:11:03.040 explicitly not a Christian. Now in name, he said, oh, I want to have some type of reforms to the

00:11:07.820 visa program but i mean that's that's kind of like you know the ant saying like oh yeah we we

00:11:13.040 think these anthills in west's backyard that they've getting overrun we'll definitely look

00:11:16.400 into a solution for that or benjamin netanyahu saying we want to get off us aid in seven years 0.99

00:11:21.220 yeah okay we'll believe it when we see it indians are notoriously in group preference they

00:11:27.360 notoriously bring in family so on the other hand you have vivek ramaswamy championing uh what does

00:11:32.780 he call it moral monotheism he's not a christian he believes in a pantheon of gods he wants to

00:11:37.660 They're bringing in big manufacturers such as Anduril, which is drone manufacturing. 0.69

00:11:41.560 He's a Hindu. 0.93

00:11:42.180 He's a Hindu. 1.00

00:11:43.060 He's beholden to the Les Wexners of Ohio.

00:11:46.200 This is, I mean, it's said that nothing happens in Ohio politics that Les Wexner does not approve of.

00:11:50.780 It's also worth noting, like, people, they don't understand this.

00:11:54.000 Like, on X, I'll post about this, and people are like, you're a racist, you know?

00:11:58.700 And, like, what are you talking about?

00:12:00.640 Vivek is an anchor baby.

00:12:03.080 He is an anchor baby.

00:12:04.540 People are like, he was born in Ohio.

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00:13:41.600 in the store by a matter of days yeah his parents got there to ohio it's been i don't know however

00:13:49.380 old he is 40 years now i think so his dad has still not become a citizen living here yes but

00:13:56.560 has not become a citizen. Why? Because it's not that important. Because America doesn't mean

00:14:01.420 crap to the Ramaswamis of the world. They don't care. He doesn't care. He's an anchor baby who 1.00

00:14:09.360 got here with his rich parents who became rich through scamming Westerners, white boomers, 0.51

00:14:17.980 saying, we've got a miracle drug that's going to cure Alzheimer's and do this and do that.

00:14:22.620 and it was a pump and dump scheme where they took the money,

00:14:26.180 then that money, billions, has been used.

00:14:29.600 Vivek, you need to remember this also, he's a billionaire.

00:14:32.340 A billionaire who has made his money scamming Americans.

00:14:36.660 Not only are Indians notorious for an in-group preference,

00:14:39.880 and to be fair, I wish that all people were known for an in-group preference

00:14:45.260 because it's actually a commandment from God.

00:14:48.700 If any man doesn't care for the members of his own household,

00:14:51.660 his own family. He is worse than an infidel. He is worse than an unbeliever and has denied the faith, 0.99

00:14:59.180 the auto amoris. There is a triage. There is a prioritization of loves, right? We want to love 1.00

00:15:07.320 everyone, but we can't love everyone equally, right? Because love, real Christian love, is in practice,

00:15:14.700 not just in word, but in deed. I love my children by clothing them, feeding them,

00:15:21.760 sheltering them. And I cannot do that for 8 billion people, which most of them live in India.

00:15:28.300 I can't do that for everyone. Why? Because I'm hateful. No, because I'm finite. Why? Because 1.00

00:15:34.580 I'm fallen? No, it's not my fallenness. It's my finitude. It's not being cruel. It's being

00:15:40.720 a creature. I am not the creator. So all that being said, we have to prioritize. Now, Indians

00:15:48.040 are known for actually prioritizing their own. I'm actually fine with that. I don't think that 1.00

00:15:52.720 that's a moral character flaw. I think it's good and right that Indians actually love their own

00:15:58.580 people, whereas white people don't. White people are wicked in that regard. You need to hear that. 1.00

00:16:06.900 You don't love your own people. You sell away your children's future for foreigners, for an extra 1.00

00:16:15.200 cruise, for a little bit of the GDP must go up. That's actually evil. So I'm not even picking on 0.98

00:16:22.660 Indians in this regard. Indians are more moral than the average Westerner in the 21st century.

00:16:30.160 Westerners were not always this way, but modern Westerners, modern white people in America, 1.00

00:16:37.020 in Europe, on this issue, are far more wicked, far more immoral than Indians. But here's the deal. 1.00

00:16:45.380 Not only do Indians prioritize their own, which I'm not saying is a bad thing, I think is a good 1.00

00:16:50.280 thing, but they also tend to be known for scamming, for deceit. The Ramaswamis aren't just 1.00

00:16:59.220 prioritizing their own. You can't fault them for that. That's a good trait. I wish we had it.

00:17:05.880 But in addition to it, they want to prioritize their own, but in your house, in your living

00:17:13.220 room, in your home, in your neighborhood, in your town, in your country. That's where they

00:17:20.220 want to prioritize their own. And that's where the problem comes in. And they're not just notorious

00:17:25.100 for prioritizing their own, but they want to prioritize their own in your home through scams.

00:17:32.340 They lie. They are known for both of those things. White people, we're known for things.

00:17:38.020 Modern white people, it wasn't always this way, but today, 21st century, for a while, for decades now, 0.61

00:17:44.200 it's kind of this way. White people, what are we known for? We're known for hating our children, 0.64

00:17:49.240 aborting them or if they do live shipping them off to public school so that mom can go work a

00:17:58.300 second income so that we can have more having a bumper sticker on our car that says i'm spending

00:18:03.440 my grandkids inheritance how wicked how wicked so we're known for selfishness hating our own 0.90

00:18:11.160 gullibility we're known for being overly trusting compassionate to the foreigner cruel to our own 0.89

00:18:18.480 posterity right everybody has besetting sense all right there's some of the white people sense 0.99

00:18:23.960 okay here's some of the indian sense scamming the heck out of white people does that mean every

00:18:31.280 single indian person does that no but i'm speaking in generalities i'm saying that there is a heightened

00:18:37.340 propensity a heightened bent for the indian person and the indian culture the indian country 0.90

00:18:48.080 to scam westerners rather than working hard and making their own money a pump and dump scheme 0.95

00:18:55.540 with a miracle drug that makes us billionaires but puts a massive dent in all these white people's 0.93

00:19:02.160 401ks all these boomers and then hey you know we'll we'll mitigate immigration and we'll be cool 0.96

00:19:10.180 No, we won't. Vivek gets an office and he will bring in infinity Indians who will also set up 1.00

00:19:18.880 scams to rob white people of their home, their country, their place, their wealth, 1.00

00:19:26.440 their children's future. Not only that, here's another thing. I remember saying this all the 0.92

00:19:30.980 way back, feels like a lifetime ago in 2024, right? When Vivek was just starting to take the stage,

00:19:38.160 And people were still a little bit unsure about Trump, whether or not he could win,

00:19:42.540 whether or not he should win.

00:19:44.200 And there was a bunch of people on the Ron DeSantis train, but I like Ron DeSantis,

00:19:49.160 but he didn't have a lot of charisma.

00:19:50.620 So there were some critiques there.

00:19:52.320 Well, another shining potential candidate that a lot of people were excited about was Vivek.

00:19:56.560 And I said it then, and I'll say it now, I feel even stronger today.

00:20:01.540 But praise God, I at least had the discernment to recognize it then and say it then.

00:20:05.260 I said, you can't vote for Vivek.

00:20:07.060 I don't care how good of a speaker he is.

00:20:10.400 I don't care how good his rhetoric is.

00:20:12.360 I don't care how conservative he sounds.

00:20:14.760 You can't vote for Vivek.

00:20:16.540 Why?

00:20:17.500 Because it opens Pandora's box. 0.98

00:20:20.420 In these United States, we have only ever had a male Christian president. 0.99

00:20:27.620 Well, Joel, that's ridiculous. 0.98

00:20:29.220 You think Trump is a Christian? 1.00

00:20:30.360 No, I think Trump's going to hell. 0.97

00:20:32.080 I do not believe that he's regenerate. 0.89

00:20:34.060 You believe Biden's a Christian? 0.98

00:20:35.680 No, I believe that Biden is going to hell.

00:20:38.060 I do not believe he's regenerate.

00:20:39.960 But it means something.

00:20:41.320 Here's the deal.

00:20:42.280 This is what evangelicals don't get.

00:20:44.060 They don't understand strategy.

00:20:45.560 They don't understand politics.

00:20:46.740 They get morals.

00:20:47.920 They understand the heart.

00:20:49.640 And that matters immensely.

00:20:51.620 Evangelicals are notorious for it.

00:20:52.860 I'm coming back to the heart of worship.

00:20:56.340 It's all about the heart.

00:20:57.500 It's all about the fields.

00:20:58.540 It's about being authentic.

00:20:59.660 It's about being genuine.

00:21:00.680 And here's the deal.

00:21:01.340 When we're talking about eternal matters, we're talking about heaven and hell.

00:21:04.780 we're talking about salvation. You're right. In your heart, from the heart, you need to have a

00:21:09.760 genuine love for Jesus Christ in the category of salvation. Amen. But the forms, formality,

00:21:18.320 pretense, that actually matters in other arenas of life. We're not talking about individual

00:21:22.840 salvation right now. We're talking about the president of a nation, one of the most powerful

00:21:28.020 nations on the planet. It matters that every president we've ever had, not that they truly

00:21:33.580 are Christian, but they all at least had to pay credence. They all had to tip the hat. They all, 0.84

00:21:40.580 in their rhetoric, had to be a true regenerate Christian. No, but they all had to at least 1.00

00:21:45.440 profess it. Do you really want to open Pandora's box? Because it won't be a one-time scenario.

00:21:52.140 You get someone like Vivek, and this is what I was arguing two years ago during the presidential

00:21:55.740 election. I was like, you get Vivek. You've just opened the door for Hindus, for an Indian

00:22:02.300 scammer Hindu. And at that point on, it's a whole new ballgame. No one has to tip the hat 1.00

00:22:11.240 to the Christian faith. No one has to placate to Christians in America. You should have to

00:22:17.940 placate to Christians in America if you want to be a leader in America, right? This would change 1.00

00:22:23.800 everything. Same thing with a woman president. I said it back with Hillary. I was like, look, 1.00

00:22:27.600 Trump is way better than Hillary on all the moral issues. But even if he wasn't, if Trump was

00:22:33.100 slightly worse than Hillary on some big moral issues, simply by virtue of him being a man,

00:22:40.080 he would have my vote. Why? Because again, it would be Pandora's box. It would be the first

00:22:45.680 woman precedent, setting a new precedent for all of time that in terms of laws of average, 1.00

00:22:52.820 maybe the first woman, maybe they're exceptional. But now we're going to have women presidents 1.00

00:23:00.620 for the next 250 years because we opened the door. We're going to have not just one of them, 0.98

00:23:06.000 but dozens of them. And on average, the dozens of female presidents versus the dozens of male 1.00

00:23:11.700 presidents, those female presidents will be objectively worse. Those Hindu presidents will 1.00

00:23:18.660 be objectively worse. So all that back to Vivek, not only will he scam Ohioans, not only will he 1.00

00:23:25.240 flood them with H-1B visas and rob them of their inheritance and their wealth, but if he becomes

00:23:32.840 the president, the governor of Ohio, you have solidified Vivek's political career for the rest

00:23:42.000 of his life in America. He's not going away. Exactly. This is the chance to say, no, never,

00:23:49.520 ever go back home. Get out of our country. You were born in America, sure, by days. Your dad

00:23:59.280 hates our country, never took the time to become a citizen. You're an anchor baby. Your family

00:24:04.820 built their wealth by robbing white people with miracle drugs that you knew were not going to be 0.87

00:24:11.700 viable. You became a billionaire. You paid your way onto every podcast. You've been lying. You've 0.64

00:24:17.900 been deceiving. And this is not American. You are not American. You are a Hindu. You are a polytheist. 1.00

00:24:24.940 You are a false idol worshiper. Go home. Get out of our country. I don't care about you quoting 1.00

00:24:33.180 Thomas Jefferson. I don't care about you pretending to honor the founders. This is America. We wear

00:24:39.180 shoes in this country. We eat beef in this country. We worship Christ exclusively in this

00:24:45.840 country. We don't rob people of their wealth in this country. Get the hell out. That's the proper

00:24:53.700 response. And you know what? Desperate times call for desperate measures. It might not work for us

00:25:04.040 any longer. The 50-year strategy of conservatives in America that hasn't ever really been working,

00:25:11.620 it certainly might not continue to work. The thing that's never worked may not continue to work,

00:25:16.720 which is lesser of two evils, lesser of two evils, lesser of two evils. Well, he's got an R

00:25:22.040 by his name. And these political realignments, they just don't happen every, you get a chance

00:25:30.920 every four years for a new political realignment.

00:25:33.160 No, sometimes they take generations.

00:25:34.900 Lenin is famous for saying there are decades

00:25:37.000 where nothing happens, and then weeks

00:25:38.500 where decades happen.

00:25:40.280 So it's against this backdrop, two very different visions

00:25:43.220 taking off in the Republican Party

00:25:45.080 that were saying, here's one that is such a threat.

00:25:47.700 We were talking about this before the show.

00:25:49.320 It's not just four years

00:25:51.020 of a VEC. And I feel, we have friends,

00:25:53.340 we have supporters, we have listeners in Ohio.

00:25:55.680 It's one of our most listened to states, actually.

00:25:57.500 I feel for the fathers,

00:25:59.180 the mothers that are raising children, the churches that are there. I feel for them. So

00:26:03.640 we're not taking this and saying like, oh, everything will be fine. I understand that

00:26:07.100 there are real ramifications for whoever wins, whether it be Vivek or his opponent, the Jewish

00:26:10.980 woman, Amy Acton. There's downstream effects for both of them. But one of the things about Vivek

00:26:15.420 is it's not just four years. Maybe even in those four years, temporarily, all else being equal,

00:26:21.620 looking at shrinking your window for four years, life is slightly better. If we could look into

00:26:26.660 the future see two different futures life is slightly better with under vivek for those four

00:26:31.180 years than amy acton than amy act jewish democrat but four years is not just four years it then

00:26:37.220 becomes eight years it then launches into a senate or a supreme court nomination or a vice president

00:26:43.240 or a president president nomination yeah and we don't get this opportunity to say the course of

00:26:48.600 the republican party the older generation is dying off the younger people are getting involved in

00:26:53.060 politics and this is our dogma going forward it's no to hinduism it's no to multiculturalism it's

00:26:58.880 no to importing the third world it's america it's american scammers it's christian it's our it's

00:27:04.420 our european western culture and heritage that's what defines a republican of the party of the

00:27:09.300 future not whatever vivek is well said i just want to say two things one going back to the concept

00:27:14.020 of like what will you elect it's one hindu you elect one person um how can that really why does

00:27:19.400 that really matter? And this isn't actually what you were alluding to. It's not theoretical. This

00:27:23.240 has actually already happened in the Democratic Party, right? So the Democratic Party circa 2010

00:27:28.140 had to run candidates who were appealing at least in credence to the Christian ethos. They're saying,

00:27:33.500 I go to church. Yeah, I go to this Unitarian church, but I go to church, and I believe that

00:27:38.060 Jesus is God. And look where we're at now. Christ is king. It's like virtually no Democratic

00:27:43.460 candidate does that. And this is where we have to inject some cynicism here, but it is really

00:27:48.500 just the reality if you don't think both the republican party and the democratic party they've

00:27:53.100 got their consultant their political consultants and their statisticians and they're literally just

00:27:57.420 running numbers they're just saying politics is demographics right so we're running numbers how

00:28:01.840 many christians are there how many people who identify as white christians well okay so what

00:28:05.040 if we what if we push this policy for we we emphasize this point would we win okay we could

00:28:10.060 capture 50 percent of that that that um sector that block and then if we said this we could

00:28:15.460 capture 50 and then we win we win ohio we win florida and we win all these it's all math this

00:28:20.700 is all math this is how these parties that it's not principles and so they all just want to win

00:28:25.020 and so when once we recognize that and we're cynical to that that degree it's not surprising

00:28:30.260 is because of democracy is you have to if you are a christian who wants to honor christ you have to

00:28:36.380 come to a level of maturity where you see democracy as one of the most wicked things

00:28:40.700 because everything you just just described brad pitt moneyball politics yep yep that is

00:28:47.920 that is the logical conclusion it always was of democracy coupled with universal suffrage

00:28:55.240 democratic elements of a republic or democratic elements of a monarchy or some kind of you know

00:29:02.680 with a strong aristocracy sure yeah but the moment that you have pure democracy with universal

00:29:09.180 suffrage. You have moneyball politics. Principles, gone. Purity, gone. Virtue, gone.

00:29:17.400 Yeah. And so what does the Vivek case look like then? The Vivek case, if he were to win

00:29:22.940 come November, what it would basically say is, oh, you can win that block without running a

00:29:28.160 Christian candidate. Yes. Game plan. Got it. All right. So that's off the table now. We don't even 0.99

00:29:32.680 have to do that. That's so good. And so this is where it becomes very practical. It's like

00:29:36.600 the precedent that's set yeah the precedent that's set for the nation for the people of high

00:29:40.600 yes but the precedent that's set for the party for its donor for that's right donors for its

00:29:45.600 media base for its political consultants is that we don't have to do the things we had to do 20

00:29:50.400 years ago to win that's right and that's the problem and now you talk about party realignment

00:29:54.360 and this is this has also happened countless times in american history i think most prominently

00:29:59.380 about the 1964 goldwater campaign now goldwater got crushed by lyndon b johnson in 1964 but but

00:30:05.600 basically the goldwater conservative republicans based out of orange county they looked at the

00:30:10.080 republican party the eisenhower republican party and they said oh they're too friendly to new deal

00:30:14.420 liberalism oh they're too friendly to the military industrial complex they moderate on all of these

00:30:18.740 cultural issues and so this goldwater movement starts to flood the party and what what is it

00:30:23.560 defined by it's basically defined by attacking the republican party so they get crushed absolutely

00:30:28.700 wiped in 1964 but their their mens rea their thought was if we lose the party if we lose

00:30:35.080 1964 we win the party for the next 30 years and did they yes reagan emerges out of the goldwater

00:30:41.280 campaign and that that that form of republicanism that's based out of california and this why

00:30:45.620 i mean california was largely conservative republican they sacrificed an election

00:30:50.140 because they wanted to and why did they sacrifice the election because they attacked themselves

00:30:53.760 they attacked themselves they weren't looking toward the democrats oh we know your new deal

00:30:57.540 we know we don't like you what we don't like more is that there are people like you who think the

00:31:02.680 same things, who have the same principles, who have the same grounding in our party. And we're

00:31:06.240 going to root that out. And we're going to sacrifice this election to do that. Now, that

00:31:10.540 wasn't, it wasn't their implicit or explicit goal to lose in 1964, but they recognized the reality

00:31:16.420 of that. And for the next 30 years, that brand of Republicanism dominated the party.

00:31:21.760 Beautiful. So well said. Ohio's Senate, conservative, how many years?

00:31:28.240 So the Ohio Senate has been Republican, held by Republicans for 41 years. The House has been held by Republicans for 31 years. That would be 2009, 2010. There was a brief pause with the whole Tea Party thing.

00:31:39.980 Helpful. Let me stop you there for just a moment. So here's the deal. If a VEC loses and you get a Jewish female Democrat, right? I mean, that's triple threat. That's not great. Jewish female Democrat.

00:31:54.680 What happens? For the citizens of one out of 50 states in our country, things are maybe slightly 0.92

00:32:02.740 worse for four years. For the whole country? Nope. For citizens, residents of one state out of 50 in

00:32:11.800 our country. Here's the thing about state elections. If things are really bad, you can move, right? So

00:32:17.280 you're not trapping fellow citizens. You're not trapping fellow brothers and sisters in Christ

00:32:22.760 and saying your life is ruined now and blah blah blah no they they have a place to go i had to

00:32:28.220 leave california but i had a place to go right there are other places to go um also at the

00:32:33.860 federal level chances are senate and house that have been conservative for decades remain

00:32:40.760 conservative remain republican so at the federal level nothing's really so you just have a 1.00

00:32:47.380 screeching Jewish Democrat woman for four years, if she makes things really bad, which probably 1.00

00:32:54.600 won't be that much worse because there's all these conservative people in that state government 1.00

00:32:58.880 surrounding her as checks and balances. But if she makes them really bad, people actually have 1.00

00:33:02.500 a place to go. It's one state out of 50. It's four years. And then after that, similar to four years

00:33:08.440 of Biden, landslide popular vote, not just electoral for Trump. Same thing would happen

00:33:13.460 Ohio. Guaranteed. But if you get Vivek, you have just signaled to the GOP, the only party out of

00:33:22.040 two in our country that even takes the time to pretend to be Christian. You have just signaled 0.67

00:33:28.620 to them, you know what? We're done with that GOP. You don't have to run candidates anymore who

00:33:36.540 pretend to be Christian. You don't need them to run candidates that have been here for multiple 0.89

00:33:41.520 generations. You don't need to run white candidates. You don't need to run Christian 0.88

00:33:45.100 candidates. You don't need to run MyHeritage American who have been here for multiple generation

00:33:50.660 candidates. You can run polytheistic, demon-worshipping, cow-worshipping, Hindu, bare 0.96

00:33:59.860 feet, scamming, anchor baby Indians. And it's a winning strategy. The blue-collar white men of 1.00

00:34:08.520 ohio and women of ohio will vote for it in a heartbeat because he has that little letter right

00:34:12.860 to his name as long as it's an r and as long as he's slightly a tick better he said there are

00:34:20.360 two genders he stands on truth wow this is our guy so here's the deal here's the deal this has

00:34:27.360 become a popular topic online on the interwebs i'm not in ohio okay but i'm we're using this as

00:34:35.540 a case study for a larger principle that i do think matters for christians um christians a lot

00:34:41.520 of them don't all right so go back c point a a lot of them just you look at their voting habits

00:34:47.020 and they don't they don't think morally okay but christians of our stripe and our group they're

00:34:55.480 pretty good morally by a landslide i'm talking 20 30 percent higher than catholics than mainline

00:35:02.860 Protestants, the evangelicals on abortion, on immigration, on traditional marriage, against

00:35:09.800 homosexuality, against suburb of all these things, there's zero contest, okay? So for our, speaking

00:35:17.580 to our own people, what I would like to see is number one, I would like to see them start to

00:35:22.180 continue to have strong convictions on those moral issues, but learn how to, you know how you learn

00:35:28.940 how to draw with the connect the dots.

00:35:31.640 I'd love to see them connect those dots

00:35:34.120 and see that it forms a very clear six-sided star, okay? 0.64

00:35:38.760 Abortion, immigration, like I would love for evangelicals

00:35:43.600 who are incredible on those moral issues, 0.93

00:35:45.920 way better than everybody else, and it's not even close,

00:35:49.280 but I would love for them to also see,

00:35:51.240 yeah, but all these have been disproportionately 0.95

00:35:53.600 shoved down our throat by Jews, okay? 1.00

00:35:57.440 So connect those dots, learn that lesson. 1.00

00:36:00.860 Secondly, you think well morally.

00:36:04.820 We need to learn to think well politically.

00:36:08.840 The political is not a one, if it's like a Venn diagram, it is not a perfect circle.

00:36:15.000 It's not a complete overlap of the political and the moral.

00:36:20.160 These are not the exact same categories.

00:36:22.460 The political is a tool which we are utilizing to serve the higher moral ideal.

00:36:31.100 It's a vehicle, a mechanism that we're using to move a nation, our fellow citizens, towards

00:36:39.280 virtue and truth and goodness and beauty.

00:36:44.140 But the political is still distinct.

00:36:47.120 It is not synonymous with truth and goodness and beauty, the moral, the religious, the

00:36:53.860 eternal.

00:36:54.760 No, it's not.

00:36:56.300 It is a separate realm.

00:36:58.520 It is a separate category.

00:37:00.780 It is a vehicle, a mechanism, a tool, and it has to be used with shrewdness.

00:37:08.060 Innocent as doves, but strategic, shrewd, wise as vipers.

00:37:15.480 I'm not telling anybody, you need to go and vote Democrat.

00:37:18.640 I can't do it.

00:37:19.760 I'm a Christian pastor.

00:37:21.020 I can't do it. 0.66

00:37:22.420 The Democrats have murdered so many children in the womb.

00:37:27.140 It is unspeakable.

00:37:28.980 I just, I can't do it, right? 1.00

00:37:31.380 Maybe it's just, well, he's retarded. 1.00

00:37:32.860 I literally, I can't break my programming on this one, guys. 1.00

00:37:36.980 I'm turning 40 this week.

00:37:40.060 And for 40 years, I have been trained.

00:37:43.120 and I think that a lot of that training is right. That issue, the life of the unborn,

00:37:52.040 the dignity of human life, the sanctity of human life from the moment of conception

00:37:58.020 is in my blood and I just, I can't go rogue. But what I can say though, an argument that I can make

00:38:07.220 is you absolutely can withhold your vote

00:38:11.540 from demon-worshipping, polytheistic, 1.00

00:38:15.860 barefoot Indian scammers who are anchor babies. 1.00

00:38:21.260 That one, that argument, withholding your vote 1.00

00:38:24.340 from trash like that, my goodness. 0.99

00:38:27.860 And here's the deal. 0.98

00:38:29.040 Would you stick it to them even harder politically

00:38:31.100 if you voted?

00:38:32.100 Yeah, you would.

00:38:32.840 You'd stick it hard to the GOP

00:38:34.600 and the GOP might learn a lesson. 0.82

00:38:35.960 But if enough Christians, and some people will, there are some people who are so far to the right

00:38:41.140 of a veck, they will actually vote Democrat. We know some of those people, and that will stick 0.91

00:38:47.080 it to them hard. But if you're a Christian and your conscience just simply doesn't allow you 0.78

00:38:51.120 to do that, I understand. I get it. But Christians in mass, if there are enough God-fearing Christians 0.99

00:38:57.460 in Ohio to say, look, we can't vote for the Democrat, but we absolutely will never vote 0.98

00:39:03.260 for the demon-worshipping Hindu. 1.00

00:39:07.000 Guys, guys in Ohio, 1.00

00:39:08.600 we've got a pretty sizable listening base in Ohio.

00:39:12.280 Guys, let's do it.

00:39:14.620 Let's do it.

00:39:15.160 This is, seriously, what Antonio said,

00:39:18.520 and giving some of the history and an anecdote,

00:39:21.740 an example of how that's happened in the past,

00:39:23.580 this is a huge opportunity.

00:39:26.260 Guys who listen to NXR,

00:39:28.240 who are God-fearing Christians,

00:39:29.720 salt of the earth in Ohio, hear my voice.

00:39:32.140 withhold your vote from vivek opt out or just write somebody in or even actively campaign

00:39:39.580 against him not for her yes but against him actively campaign against him he's not a

00:39:44.180 never of a fact with hold your vote i'm not voting for her that's right yeah and hold your

00:39:48.840 vote so that you're not voting either way you have a clean conscience before the lord but if

00:39:53.140 enough of you patriots do that and and amy doesn't just win but she wins because it needs to be he

00:40:00.760 needs to get demolished. It needs to be a big win or a big loss for Vivek, because that sends a

00:40:09.460 signal to the entire Republican Party in America that will influence their campaigns, who they run,

00:40:17.360 not just for Ohio, but every state, who they run for the president at federal elections.

00:40:23.560 it could change the course of the next 20, 30, 40, even 50 years of American politics at a national

00:40:32.340 level, not just governor races in one state for four years, but presidential races that affect

00:40:38.980 eight years in the entire country. Candidates that get destroyed in primaries, some of them never

00:40:43.720 even have a political career again. It goes so badly for them. They are never able to come back

00:40:48.220 and be a serious candidate because they're looked at and it's like, look what you did to us. This

00:40:51.980 He's considered to be a state, Trump carried it by like 11 points.

00:40:55.460 So Vivek, even a bad candidate, he should maybe win by five.

00:40:58.880 He loses by five to 10.

00:41:01.260 He hopefully never gets taken seriously in the Republican Party. 0.99

00:41:04.380 He's seen as a loser. 0.96

00:41:06.440 And it's not just Vivek. 0.92

00:41:08.640 Because Vivek is the best of India.

00:41:12.600 He's a sharp guy.

00:41:13.920 He is a billionaire.

00:41:14.860 He's a sharp guy.

00:41:15.660 He's well-spoken.

00:41:16.360 He's the best looking.

00:41:16.840 um like from guys who i know have been on the ground uh vivek is uh one of the few indians

00:41:25.100 that doesn't stink he's one of the few indians that uh that looks decent and does his hair and

00:41:32.440 dresses in american clothes and you know when he thinks that his feet will be in the shot

00:41:38.600 will at least put on shoes you know if he's not caught off guard um he's you know his rhetoric

00:41:45.180 is sharp his mind is sharp i mean he repeats our talking points really well that's why he

00:41:50.540 connected with people he said young men and women need to be able to afford homes they need to be

00:41:54.620 able to raise children you need to know that god is real there are two genders he was pretty early

00:41:58.720 on rejecting the wokeness now i see that as a career pivot because he kind of saw where the

00:42:03.300 waters were going where the river was heading but he was early on on those things and he repeats our

00:42:07.400 rhetoric really well though again you need to signal it's not enough to just say our rhetoric

00:42:12.700 And that's my point is by rejecting Vivek, you get rid of somebody who I think is a snake and dangerous, and you get rid of his entire political career.

00:42:21.180 This could be it if he loses bad enough. 1.00

00:42:23.620 Secondly, because he is in many ways, the point I was making is the best of India, you get rid of not just Vivek, but all Indians. 1.00

00:42:31.340 You can scratch Hindu, demon worshiping, cow worshiping, barefoot, scammers, anchor babies, cow urine off the map. 1.00

00:42:46.520 You can just scratch all that 1.4 billion people who all are going to try to make their play in our country to take over this, to take over that, to get a benefit from this and a benefit from... 0.99

00:42:59.580 Right now, Vivek, he's their guy. 0.99

00:43:03.240 He is representative of India.

00:43:05.980 He is.

00:43:07.920 All of India is looking.

00:43:09.100 It's not just the GOP is watching what's going to happen.

00:43:12.220 Will this guy work, or is he outright rejected?

00:43:15.740 All of India is watching.

00:43:17.620 They're watching.

00:43:17.840 See if they have a place in the Republican Party, an electoral basis.

00:43:21.980 Can we send more over?

00:43:23.300 Can we slowly take over this country?

00:43:25.020 The left got us here, but the right will keep us here.

00:43:27.300 We'll vote right.

00:43:27.940 we're happy to do it as long as our guys can win. Our guys can be on the ballot.

00:43:31.680 He has to get destroyed, utterly destroyed. It is your God-appointed duty as a Christian,

00:43:40.880 as a worshiper of the triune God, Jesus Christ, a monotheistic Christian, and an American

00:43:49.700 patriot. It is your God-given duty to make sure that he gets demolished. Doesn't just lose by a 0.89

00:43:57.720 hair. He gets demolished in this election for governor of Ohio. For conscience sake,

00:44:06.140 many of you will not be able to vote for his opponent. But you can campaign against him.

00:44:12.900 You can campaign against her too. You can withhold your vote. You can write in a name.

00:44:20.600 You could write in a name. The name you write in could be white Christian male.

00:44:25.080 that's if i was in ohio i would go into the voting booth and i would write white christian

00:44:30.940 male i'm actually looking it up now it's even likely challengeable that putsch so he can't

00:44:35.540 actually appear on the ballot because he's already appeared in the state laws if you're on a republic

00:44:40.120 it's a sore loser law essentially so if you're on a primary you can't appear on the ballot

00:44:44.260 as a third party candidate right and that's by the way historically third party candidates that's

00:44:49.000 that's how you've punished a party i mean withholding turnout's another one primary

00:44:52.760 challenges obviously they've already tried that but it is likely challengeable that putsch could

00:44:56.660 file a write-in uh claim in november and people could literally just write in his name and that

00:45:01.840 takes 20 almost 20 of the vote away so it's like there's there's options i don't actually know what

00:45:06.640 it looks like in ohio but but uh all the yeah your point stands yeah so that's the show for today

00:45:12.780 it's pretty straightforward pretty simple but um thinking morally matters absolutely um thinking

00:45:21.300 theologically, spiritually, eternally, salvifically matters, absolutely. But Protestant Christians

00:45:28.240 have not been particularly good, especially evangelicals, at thinking politically. Evangelicals 0.57

00:45:34.560 tend to vote in the right direction in terms of the lesser of two evils. But it has gotten to a 1.00

00:45:41.520 fever pitch. It has gotten to the point in our country where the lesser of two evils is simply

00:45:46.140 not enough. It's not. It's not enough that we have one party that hates all five of my children

00:45:54.120 with every fiber of their being, but slightly less than the other party. It's just not enough.

00:46:01.000 So at this point in the political category, we are going to have to be innocent as doves,

00:46:05.880 shrewd as vipers, strategic, thinking politically. How can we, maintaining the clear conscience

00:46:11.920 before the Lord punish our own party until they truly honor Christ and represent us. That's the

00:46:21.180 show for today. We hope that you've been blessed by it. Any final words from you guys? I would just

00:46:25.880 say there's a difference between tons of Christians in 2016 had the same approach to Trump. They're

00:46:30.720 like, I can't vote for him. And so I'm going to go campaign for her. I'm going to withhold my vote

00:46:34.960 from him. There's a difference between doing it from a leftist frame. Well, I don't like Trump

00:46:39.160 because he said he's going to ban immigration from Muslim countries.

00:46:42.320 That's because you're a leftist.

00:46:44.200 What we're saying is we will not vote for Vivek Ramaswamy

00:46:46.720 because he's not a Christian, because he's not good for Ohio.

00:46:49.700 So it's like, wait, this just sounds like 2016 all over again. 0.79

00:46:52.520 He's not an American. 0.96

00:46:53.420 He's not a Christian. He's not an American. 0.99

00:46:54.980 We're doing it, not from a leftist frame.

00:46:56.980 Well, his rhetoric on immigration is this, that.

00:46:59.660 No, that's a leftist frame.

00:47:01.180 The right, traditional, strong frame is to say we're not voting for him. 0.93

00:47:06.060 He's not an American. He's not a Christian. 0.99

00:47:07.740 He doesn't have the best interest of Ohio, and he is a disaster if he becomes a norm 0.91

00:47:11.820 in the Republican Party.

00:47:13.060 That's the difference between the two.

00:47:14.580 That is the difference.

00:47:15.580 Well said.

00:47:16.200 All right.

00:47:16.680 Well, thanks, guys.

00:47:17.500 I appreciate it.

00:47:18.820 I'm feeling a little bit better.

00:47:20.380 Update.

00:47:20.960 Some of you guys were asking.

00:47:22.300 Lots of messages and emails and DMs.

00:47:24.420 Appreciate your love, your prayers, your support.

00:47:27.620 Went to the ER this last week and spent the day there.

00:47:32.340 Had to be hooked up to an IV and getting fluids and those kinds of things.

00:47:35.400 um it's it's detailed and i don't i don't want to share every private detail with everyone on the

00:47:41.320 internet but the good news is that i am improving um it's uh some things that i'll have to continue

00:47:47.900 to battle with my health and uh just be very disciplined um but with discipline and hard work

00:47:54.800 i should be okay i was able to preach this last sunday uh most people um who experience uh what

00:48:01.760 I experienced and the condition that I'm having to work hard with are out of work and commission

00:48:09.760 for usually a couple weeks. But by God's grace, I had the strength to push through, to be a man

00:48:17.300 and get behind the pulpit and preach the word of God to my congregation. And here we are on Monday

00:48:22.840 in the studio recording and putting out content for you guys. So I'm going to try to be wise and

00:48:29.720 be a good steward. You know, I'm turning 40 this week, and it's kind of like in God's providence,

00:48:37.500 he just, you know, with going to the ER last week, it's like he said, hey, hello, welcome to 40.

00:48:43.300 Welcome. We've got great things in store. We've got great things. Welcome to your 40s, bub.

00:48:48.420 You can't just do all the things you did when you were 20. Life is changing. But I will say this,

00:48:54.860 going to the ER and being really disciplined this week. In just a week, I've already lost like 10

00:49:02.400 pounds and feeling in that regard, healthier. I got to get my strength back. And yeah, I just need

00:49:12.020 to be a good steward of the life that God has given me. All of us need to do that. And I need

00:49:17.400 to set an example. It was never terrible, but I just, I have some of these things that I don't

00:49:24.760 want to give a lot of detail, but some of them are just hereditary. And you know what? You play

00:49:30.840 the hand you're dealt. And the hand that I was dealt is a hand that just requires more discipline,

00:49:37.480 more intentionality, and I'm going to do it. So here I am. Praise God. All glory to Him. Got to

00:49:43.260 preach to my church yesterday. Super grateful for that. Thanks for your prayers. Keep praying.

00:49:50.020 Pray that I would be disciplined. Pray that God would heal and restore my body.

00:49:53.340 and my wife has been tremendous this last week

00:49:57.300 in serving me, loving me, caring for me.

00:49:59.880 So for those of you who are wondering,

00:50:01.840 that's as much of a specified update as I can give.

00:50:05.580 Hope that helps.

00:50:06.540 Thanks for tuning in

00:50:07.280 and we will see you all week long.

00:50:09.360 Remember, the new schedule is 5 p.m. Eastern Time,

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00:50:15.760 Monday is Christian Nationalism Weekly.

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00:50:22.360 with Dale Partridge.

00:50:23.920 Then on Wednesday,

00:50:25.200 you'll see me for a second part,

00:50:27.960 part two with Alex Stein

00:50:29.620 for our weekly special that we do,

00:50:32.740 the NXR special.

00:50:34.240 Then on Thursday,

00:50:35.240 Calvin Robinson,

00:50:36.480 The Next Crusade.

00:50:37.900 And then on Friday,

00:50:39.240 Off Limits News with Harrison Smith.

00:50:42.360 Man, his first episode on Friday

00:50:44.520 last week was a banger.

00:50:46.360 Phenomenal. 0.92

00:50:46.940 He broke down everything

00:50:48.100 that had been going on

00:50:49.200 with InfoWars

00:50:50.720 and all the lawfare and gave like some inside baseball,

00:50:56.020 like an insider's view to Alex Jones

00:50:57.880 and what's really going on.

00:51:00.040 And dude, I mean, it was just a phenomenal episode.

00:51:03.960 So we've got all five shows this week.

00:51:06.660 It's only day one, so buckle up.

00:51:08.920 It's gonna be a heck of a week every week

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The NXR Podcast - May 11, 2026

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