00:00:00.000America will either have Christ, or it will have chaos.
00:00:05.000For years, conservatives believed that Trump could reverse America's decline.
00:00:11.000But after Trump, the right is now fractured, exhausted, and losing ground.
00:00:16.000Endless infighting and electoral losses have exposed a deeper problem that politics alone cannot solve.
00:00:25.000A nation that rejects Christ cannot be restored by mere personalities, grandstanding, or Christless conservatism.
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00:00:51.580complaining is not a strategy, and despair cannot be an option. Christ is king. Let's live like it.
00:01:05.780Unless you've been living under a rock, you're probably very aware that America currently has1.00
00:01:10.760a black problem. Now, we cannot deal with this problem in godless ways. We are not1.00
00:01:17.740Darwinian secularists. We are Christians. We have a country with a Christian founding, and by God,
00:01:25.040we'll have our home again. We are not only Christian in our past, but by the grace of God,
00:01:29.880if he would be so kind, we will be Christian again in America's future. So we have to deal
00:01:36.780with the problem that is set before us, and there are certain things that are baked into the pie
00:01:41.500at this point that are simply not going to be undone. They have to be dealt with, not merely
00:01:48.140ignored. All right, for those of you who would be to my right, politically, culturally, and otherwise,
00:01:55.520here's the reality. Thomas Sowell is not going back. Clarence Thomas is not going back. I understand
00:02:02.640that you may think the memes are fun, but we're at a certain point in the conversation in the year
00:02:07.780of our Lord 2026, where that kind of rhetoric is no longer helpful. It's not feasible. It's not
00:02:14.120winnable. It's not going to happen. It's not practical, but it's also not moral. It's simply
00:02:20.360not moral, and it's a liability at this point. It does more harm than good. There are heritage
00:02:26.620blacks here in the United States, and they are disproportionately committing violent crime,0.97
00:02:32.220not only against each other, but black-on-white crime, interracial crime statistics, are skewed0.99
00:02:39.640heavily towards black people afflicting other races in a way that other races do not do the same.0.78
00:02:48.280We know this, but we're going to have to deal with it. And if you look through history,0.98
00:02:54.260there are many who would say violence is never the answer. History tells us that violence is
00:02:59.300almost always the answer. So the question is not whether, but which. What kind of violence
00:03:05.540is necessary and is permissible? The Scripture actually allows for violence. In fact, not only
00:03:13.420does the Scripture allow for violence, but when it comes to actually punishing those who commit
00:03:18.660violence, violence is mandated by Scripture as the recourse, as a good and just and necessary
00:03:27.720consequence. So, violence has to be enacted, but it must be violence from the state, who has actually
00:03:35.900been instituted by God to bear the sword. It must be a violence that is just, that is fair,
00:03:42.660that is proportional, that is swift. The high-water mark in these United States for the
00:03:49.980black community. It was probably in the early 1900s, a few decades before the civil rights
00:03:57.500movement, before Hartzellar, where most, not all, it was never all, but most of the black families
00:04:05.920were intact. There were strong families. There was still a disparity of sorts between the white
00:04:13.540community and the black community, but the gap was actually narrowing. Black people were catching up.
00:04:19.980They realized that if they wanted a piece of the American pie, it wasn't going to be handed to0.90
00:04:25.160them for free. They weren't entitled to it. They were going to have to work hard. There was a
00:04:30.700certain humility that the average black person in America at that time possessed. They weren't0.98
00:04:36.360saying, oh, Whitey stole everything from me, or I was wronged. No, they actually recognized that
00:04:42.680in large part, white people ruled the country and built the country, and if they were going to have
00:04:48.920their place in the country. They were going to have to do everything they could to rise to the0.88
00:04:55.000level of excellence and morality that white people at that time were portraying. And so things
00:05:03.680improved. And then it was all ruined. It was ruined by Marxist Jews and psyops like Martin
00:05:10.900Luther King, Michael Luther King, and Rosa Parks, and all the rest to convince black people that we1.00
00:05:17.600was kings once upon a time, and that really we built not only this country, but every country
00:05:24.140that's ever existed, but the white man took it from us, that we were somehow oppressed, somehow
00:05:29.540wronged. Black people, in general, not each and every individual, but in general, became entitled,
00:05:36.680became arrogant, haughty, and they became those who now, today, act like fools. Not always,1.00
00:05:47.480but certainly more often than we see other races behaving in such foolish manners.1.00
00:05:53.900So we have a problem on our hands. There are black people who need to simply go back because1.00
00:06:00.340they're not heritage blacks. It's not Clarence Thomas. It's not Thomas Sowell. These are black0.98
00:06:05.800people from Haiti or Somalia who have been here for 15 minutes, right? They can go back. They must1.00
00:06:12.400go back. But when all is said and done, the mass deportations that we're never going to get,
00:06:17.440but hypothetically just say that we got them, you're still going to have a population baked
00:06:22.940into the pot that has been here for from the beginning of our history. And the problem still
00:06:28.680remains, what do we do with them? How do these people truly assimilate? How do they live well0.99
00:06:35.500mannered lives? How can they be above reproach and upstanding citizens? That's the title and
00:06:42.820the topic for today's episode. Tune in now. Radical Christian nationalist pastor,
00:06:50.820Joel Webben. Joel Webben. I'm going to talk about Joel Webben. Joel Webben is an excellent
00:07:05.500Well, welcome back to Christian Nationalism Weekly.
00:07:17.280The Carmelo Anthony trial is going on now,
00:07:19.640and it's emblematic of where America is at in its race relations.
00:07:23.580Through the 1900s, especially the late 1900s and the early 2000s,
00:07:27.680there came about this ideology that gripped the nation of colorblindness,
00:07:30.900that every individual truly is an individual.
00:08:00.520I remember being in New York City with my wife, with some other couples, and a black man just sitting across the train, just leering, almost ready to go to blows, just angry.0.99
00:08:15.060You've seen someone walk out without paying.
00:08:16.840You've been in public, and it's a homeless man having an episode where he's shouting at people.0.98
00:08:20.640We've all experienced this where you're in public, and there is, generally speaking, and it's not exclusively, a black man that's acting dangerous.0.98
00:08:28.320and people do their best to kind of avoid him0.99
00:08:30.360because they know they could get into a confrontation with him
00:08:33.320and it could go south just like it did for Austin Metcalf.
00:08:36.400So on April 2nd, 2025, there was a rainstorm in Frisco, Texas
00:08:40.420and it forced teams that were to track me to go underneath their tents.
00:08:44.440Anthony Carmelo goes under the tent of the other team
00:08:47.360and he gets into an altercation with Austin Metcalf.
00:08:49.760Now, witnesses vary on this, but what was first reported,
00:08:52.960and it appears that witnesses are already reporting,
00:08:54.800is that Carmelo Anthony was actually suspended from the school as of that morning for bringing
00:09:00.520a knife on campus. So he's on a property. He has just been told you're not supposed to be here.
00:09:05.980And he's on a property he's not supposed to be on with something he's not supposed to bring to0.94
00:09:11.060school, namely the black knife that he uses to stab Austin in the heart. So he's where he's not
00:09:17.700supposed to be. He has something he's not supposed to have. He goes under this tent for the track
00:09:21.980me to get away from the rain. They get into an altercation. And here's some of the framing that
00:09:26.160the black community has used. Carmel Anthony raised over $600,000 on give, send, go for his0.96
00:09:31.380legal defense. And if you read through the comments and the people donating to it, they were invoking
00:09:35.720Jesus' name for one. But the big thing was this poor little black boy was ganged up upon, that he
00:09:40.820was seeking shelter from the rain. And he was surrounded by these white kids that were bullying0.97
00:09:44.920him and a physical altercation occurred. And scared for his life, he went to the one thing he
00:09:48.880could do, which is to grab something from his backpack and lash out in self-defense to try to
00:09:53.240save his life. Well, the witnesses have been destroying that defense by saying, no, nobody
00:09:58.020surrounded him. Nobody ganged up on him. A couple of people said, hey, you've got to get out of here.
00:10:02.980This is not your team. You don't belong here. He got testy. What the blank are you going to do
00:10:08.420about it? Touch me and see what happens. He gets mouthy and everyone there kind of assumed you're
00:10:13.460not going to, of course, stab someone in the heart, are you? Well, it escalated to that point. And
00:10:17.740that's what he did. And Austin Metcalfe died in his twin brother's arms, his twin brother sobbing,
00:10:23.640he's my best friend. And so it's emblematic of a nation that's seen the story again and again,
00:10:28.800in public, someone where they're not supposed to be, and they lash out violently. And the
00:10:32.880consequences for it are losing somebody that you never get back. Right now, a lot of families are
00:10:37.700trying to eat healthier. I know that my family is trying to do this as well. But when you look
00:10:42.560at the prices of truly grass-fed, pasture-raised meat, it feels impossible. That's why I want to
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00:12:24.200They actually hadn't even had had the funds paid out yet from Give, Send, Go as of that time.0.99
00:12:29.120So don't look stupid and don't repeat that story.
00:12:31.600But what they did do is they went in and they broadened the scope of what the funds would be used for because initially it was for a legal defense.0.99
00:12:37.520So they go in and say, at first, help our little boy.
00:12:40.540He needs a legal defense, which people do that.
00:29:23.520Yeah, so, yeah, you think about like this culture of victimization.
00:29:28.020It's been said a lot, obviously, about the black community.
00:29:30.960But I do think it goes beyond even the average black person, you know, in an urban environment and how they relate with the world, how they relate with, for example, the white community or the law.
00:29:41.340They might individually feel like a victim, and that's sort of their fundamental presupposition, we might say.
00:29:47.580And then we might say even collectively that the fundamental presupposition of the black community writ large in America is everything that is wrong with us is not our fault.
00:29:59.460It is some consequence of a corrupt system or it's some result or consequence of slavery or it's active discrimination happening.
00:30:20.320It really is grave that as you see this culture of victimization emerge post-civil rights, that everything – so basically start with everything that's happened to us is wrong and we need to address it now.
00:30:35.960And as you see all of these laws, post-civil rights continue to be passed, anti-discrimination laws and housing and voting and all of these things, the culture has gotten worse.
00:47:13.020This just goes again to speak towards the reality of nations.0.81
00:47:17.620It's like, well, you know, I'm against ethnic nationalism.
00:47:22.380What, you're against national nationalism?
00:47:24.440nationalism, nacio, ethnos, nations. That's what a nation has always been. And I'm not saying there
00:47:34.040weren't ever any exceptions. There certainly were when it comes to empires, the Roman Empire. There
00:47:38.640were different peoples, different tribes and nations, ethnicities, colors underneath the
00:47:46.300Roman Empire. Now, I will say that first, the Roman Empire fell, and that was a big part of
00:47:52.980the reason that it expanded its borders too far and thought that, you know, anybody can be a part
00:47:58.920of the Roman empire, you know, and we can just get everyone to pledge allegiance to Rome and we're
00:48:04.140good. And it turns out that natural affections don't disappear overnight and people remain loyal
00:48:10.200to their own native tribe over some flag. Right now, you have to recognize that these United
00:48:17.220States of America, we're not a nation. We are an empire. We are. And I'm not saying just
00:48:23.980empirical in the sense that we have our hand in the cookie jar in terms of geopolitics everywhere
00:48:29.600else outside of our country, geographically speaking. I'm not just talking about that
00:48:33.980empirical element where we're way too involved in the Middle East. And we're also doing something
00:48:39.520over here with Ukraine and Russia. We're also trying to take Greenland and a little bit of
00:48:43.760Venezuela and maybe Cuba for good measure. I'm not just talking about that empirical element.
00:48:49.160I'm saying that in our own land, we are an empire of many nations rather than one nation.
00:48:57.440What does that mean? It means that we have the nation of Somalia under an empirical flag
00:49:05.420of the red and white stripes and stars. We have an empire of Haiti and an empire of0.78
00:49:13.620this country and that country and all in our land. We're not one people. We're not one people0.89
00:49:21.760because becoming one people, truly assimilating, this takes time. It takes a lot of time and
00:49:28.800well-ordered policy. And it also takes commonality and common affliction, certain challenges that
00:49:35.920you share with one another, that bind you to one another, alliances that form through mutual
00:49:42.380affliction and mutual trials, we don't have that anymore. And so what we have is not a nation,
00:49:50.680but a geographically centered empire made up of multiple nations and only one group,
00:49:59.120only one nation within this empire actually still believes in the principles of
00:50:05.820all being one people, regardless of race or color. Nobody else thinks that way.
00:50:12.380no one thinks that way ilhan omar doesn't think that way right obama didn't think that way push
00:50:19.120come to shove obama decided hey i'm black and you know in his case the irony is he was half white
00:50:26.280half black and guess which side of the family actually raised him the white side but his
00:50:31.900loyalty lied with the black side for some reason so the the point is that for us even to do justice0.55
00:50:39.820and to have just courts with just juries is almost at this point an impossibility because we no longer0.95
00:50:47.460have a outsized core homogenous group. For a nation to actually be a nation, you have to have
00:50:57.300some kind of hegemony. You have to have some kind of homogenous majority that is the bedrock of that0.83
00:51:04.720country that holds it together. It's like, yeah, we've got some people from over there and some
00:51:09.660people from over here, but the core ethnic makeup of the nation is one people. And the more and more
00:51:18.760we lose that, the more impossible it will be to ever do justice. It'll be impossible to find
00:51:26.64012 jurors that can actually agree on the principles of what justice even is.
00:51:32.880Think about a jury of your own peers. This was in a time where it was a jury of my own peers means 12 jurors have to unanimously agree, 12 European Christian jurors, men like me, have to unanimously agree that I did it beyond a shadow of a doubt and vote to convict.
00:51:48.880So if there's anything that casts doubt or if I'm able to argue my case and to show how I was a victim of the circumstances, I've got capable, qualified men who will look at it and judge it honestly, and all of them would have to not buy it.
00:52:01.740I just need to convince one of them, if I'm being innocent, being accused of something
00:52:06.160I didn't do, I just got to get through to one of them and demonstrate, no, you can't