The NXR Podcast - CN Weekly - The Biblical Case For Women Having Less Agency Than Men

00:00:00.000 the 14 medications that she was on Zoloft, Prozac, Romeron, Seroquel, and atypical antipsychotic.

00:00:07.040 Spiritual witches brew, based off of our heritage, she does not bear the same level of agency

00:00:11.760 that a man would bear. The natural hormones themselves that are powerful enough that women 0.99

00:00:19.000 cannot be held to the same level of agency as men. And that's where we want to give our 0.97

00:00:25.740 full-throated agreement the forensic and medical history behind what you would call uh postpartum

00:00:30.540 psychosis paul says it's the order of creation it's also the order and nature order and manner

00:00:36.460 of the fall the animating sentiment of all of these women you see how much of a burden children 0.98

00:00:41.020 are this is why we should be able to kill them before they're born so we don't kill them after 1.00

00:00:47.020 Radical Christian nationalist pastor, Joel Webben. 1.00

00:00:52.020 Joel Webben?

00:00:53.020 I'm going to talk about Joel Webben.

00:00:55.020 Joel Webben is an accident.

00:00:57.020 action. Three issues, three topics, three groups of people here in America that you should

00:01:21.420 absolutely be terrified by. Number one, when things began to kick off between Israel and Gaza,

00:01:29.880 it is not just that Israel or the government of Israel or the IDF or Benjamin Netanyahu wanted to

00:01:36.160 glass Gaza, including civilians, women, and children. The big concern is the reaction from

00:01:43.320 a large swath of people here in the United States saying, I don't care if children starve. I don't

00:01:50.660 care if babies die. That reaction should scare you. Charlie Kirk, whether it was Tyler Robinson

00:01:58.940 or whether he was simply a pawn in a scheme used by someone else, it doesn't matter. The big thing

00:02:06.320 that matters is that when Charlie Kirk was shot in the neck as a political assassination, as a

00:02:13.220 Christian martyr, there were tens of thousands of liberals here in these United States making

00:02:20.820 TikTok videos, pretending to be shot in the neck, making gurgling sounds and laughing. They were

00:02:27.980 filled with glee and joy about the fact that children will grow up without a father. And here's

00:02:35.580 the deal. Charlie Kirk, in terms of his cultural and political views, was a moderate. And you must

00:02:42.240 understand that. Charlie Kirk was a good man. We respect him. We appreciate him. We believe he was

00:02:48.360 a Christian man who is currently in the presence of Christ in heaven forever. But Charlie Kirk was 0.59

00:02:53.840 not a radical. Never. Why was the left so terrified about Charlie Kirk? Why? Because of his views

00:03:00.520 being far right, extremist views? No. Charlie Kirk platformed Hindus, atheists, Mormons. He

00:03:07.460 platformed orthodox jews not just ethnically but religious jews who believe jesus is currently in 0.98

00:03:13.840 hell boiling in hot excrement yes i'm speaking of ben shapiro charlie kirk also platformed 0.99

00:03:21.220 sodomites homosexuals charlie kirk was not an extremist but charlie kirk could do one thing 0.99

00:03:27.820 that is significant he could turn out mass voters to win gop elections and therefore he was viewed 0.97

00:03:36.620 as a threat. It's not just about the one individual or even a syndicate of individuals

00:03:42.940 behind the scenes that made his assassination happen. It's about the tens of thousands of

00:03:48.820 Americans here on the ground that celebrated it. So Israel and Gaza, thousands of Americans

00:03:56.200 celebrating evil, right? If it's Charlie Kirk, thousands of Americans celebrating evil. And in

00:04:04.240 the case of the latest story, Lindsay Clancy. It's not just that a wicked mother did a heinous 0.92

00:04:14.000 and sinister thing, strangling to death her own three children, but it is all the women in our

00:04:22.080 country standing in solidarity with her. Their first line of argument, their first line of defense,

00:04:29.840 she didn't do it it must have been the father it was her husband it's the man who is to blame

00:04:37.640 when she then confesses outright her own admission that she strangled her children killed them in

00:04:45.040 cold blood then all these women back down and apologize no they double down and say it's still

00:04:52.600 not her fault they're tweeting out two words pictures of themselves crying with their own

00:04:58.740 children that should be taken by the state from them because these children are in danger with 1.00

00:05:03.640 their crazy, insane, wicked mothers. And they're saying, same, Lindsay. I feel the same way. I 0.99

00:05:10.800 understand your murderous outrage. I too have murderous sentiments. There's a number of reasons

00:05:18.000 for this. One, because most of the women who are standing in solidarity with Lindsay Clancy

00:05:23.280 actually are murderers who have committed abortion, murdering their unborn children.

00:05:29.260 But they are also saying, we agree with the murder of those children who are already born. 0.51

00:05:35.040 All three of these groups in America, this is what I want you to see. 0.73

00:05:38.560 Zionist, celebrating the death of children in Gaza, genocide. 0.66

00:05:43.600 It's not just those in Israel, in their government, who carry it out. 0.66

00:05:47.920 it's all those zionist americans by the thousands celebrating it the second one leftist not just the

00:05:56.700 one leftist who allegedly shot charlie kirk in the neck but all those coming out in gleeful support

00:06:03.440 of the death of a husband and father and the third feminist feminist in these united states 0.77

00:06:10.680 of America who find more in common with a serial killer mother than they do with common sense, 0.98

00:06:18.620 than they do with loving and preserving and protecting children. These three groups in our

00:06:24.420 country are terrorists. They are a liability. They are a threat and a danger to every God-fearing, 0.99

00:06:31.260 common sense conservative American in this country. Zionist, liberals, feminist. Zionist, 0.88

00:06:41.180 liberals, feminist. It is not just those who pull the trigger and do these heinous deeds, 0.99

00:06:47.200 but it is undeniable that by the tens of thousands, Zionist, liberals, and feminists

00:06:54.040 celebrate these deeds that are done in extreme and unapologetic wickedness. That's our episode 0.57

00:07:02.320 today. That's what we'll be discussing. When it comes to women and their children,

00:07:07.600 there's nothing particularly about this story that in and of itself is newsworthy. It's tragic,

00:07:12.260 but this happens all throughout the Western world. You go all the way back to Greek myths

00:07:16.480 and fables about the gods. There's cases of women killing their children to get back at a god that

00:07:20.960 did this or God causing a woman to take her child and jump into the sea. So there's nothing

00:07:25.660 particular about the tragic killing of her three children in January of 2023 that really sticks

00:07:31.560 out. We wouldn't be doing an episode on it if it was just another tragic story of a mother killing

00:07:35.720 her children. It's the reaction to it. And there's multiple layers to this. And what women are doing

00:07:41.020 and what you're seeing in the feminine psychology and the psychologizing of it is all of these 0.71

00:07:45.800 different layers from the medications, from the postpartum to the husband and his actions,

00:07:50.380 all of these different things are saying well this gets her off the hook and we have to have

00:07:54.580 compassion because of this and i've experienced postpartum depression i can see some of myself

00:07:58.980 in her but as we're going to go through it each and every single avenue none of them get her off

00:08:03.560 the hook for the wicked thing that she did none of those excuse her and we're going to go all the

00:08:07.860 way back looking at our common law history looking at english law from the 1300s how they thought

00:08:13.860 about responsibility how they thought about particularly women's responsibility and who's

00:08:18.980 responsible. That's right. So we're going to be talking about rights and duties, rights and

00:08:23.380 responsibilities in a biblical Christian framework and in our European heritage, both American and

00:08:29.520 European English common law. This has always been the way that rights and responsibilities are

00:08:35.200 described as two peas in a pod, always tethered together, never severed from one another. You

00:08:41.980 have certain rights and therefore you are responsible. But here's the deal. You guys

00:08:46.680 aren't gonna like it but we're gonna say it basically what we see is the feminist nazis

00:08:51.560 coming out in mass numbers standing in solidarity with a serial killer mom who strangled to death

00:08:59.060 her three children and their main line of argument is whether it's the husband or whether it's big

00:09:04.040 pharma or whether it's this that or the other somehow some way lindsey is not morally responsible

00:09:10.540 Lindsay at minimum her moral culpability is mitigated by some external factor and here's

00:09:18.900 where we might surprise you we actually agree we agree and we're going to show you through English

00:09:24.840 common law and through recent laws as recent as just a century ago even more recent here in America

00:09:32.280 and most importantly from the Bible itself looking at numbers chapter 30 verses 2 all the way through

00:09:39.700 verse 8 and verse 9. This is the principle that we see. Look at this. This is Numbers chapter 30

00:09:46.180 verse 2. If a man vow a vow unto the Lord or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond,

00:09:51.540 he shall not break his word. He shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.

00:09:57.000 If a man makes a vow, if he's an old man or a young man, if he's a married man or a single man,

00:10:02.560 If a man makes a vow, he's bound by what he promised. If a woman makes a vow, and the 0.65

00:10:10.040 implication being that she's younger in her father's home, but the father then hears of the

00:10:14.680 vows of his daughter, his adult daughter, but still relatively young, he can override that vow and say,

00:10:21.320 guys, let's be honest. She's a woman. She doesn't know what she's saying. She can't really be bound

00:10:27.500 to this vow. She spoke rashly. She's a woman. She has, here's the key, less agency. And he can

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00:11:09.640 forward slash Joel. Use promo code J-O-E-L for 15% off. But if you go on in Numbers chapter 30,

00:11:17.760 it's not just the young adult single woman in her father's home the same principle still applies

00:11:24.500 to a woman who is married the father has the right for a young adult woman his daughter to say guys

00:11:32.160 who are we kidding at the end of the day she's a woman she can't really be held responsible for 0.52

00:11:37.980 what she promised because she doesn't really have the same level of agency as a man but even an

00:11:44.960 older adult woman who is married, her husband has the same right. He can hear her vow, her promise

00:11:53.100 that she made, and say, guys, she's a woman, right? Even if she's not 25, but she's 35, 45, 55 years

00:12:02.200 old, at the end of the day, she's a woman. She can't be really held responsible to the promises

00:12:08.100 that she made because she does not maintain the same level of responsibility and agency as a man

00:12:16.320 and here's the deal we're saying this not to to make some kind of argument that the bible is

00:12:21.540 misogynist or the bible is extreme no we're christians who love and believe and defend the

00:12:27.420 word of god the bible is correct and english common law that follows the bible was correct

00:12:34.300 and the laws, even recent laws, in these United States of America are correct, and all of them

00:12:40.660 point towards one major theme. What is it? The theme is this. Women actually do have less agency

00:12:48.180 than men, and because they have less agency, they also, in political society, must have fewer 0.99

00:12:55.980 rights. The problem right now that we're seeing with Lindsay Clancy is not merely that people

00:13:02.580 are trying to absolve her of guilt. The problem is that conservatives, alleged conservatives,

00:13:08.220 are insisting that she has total guilt with no other party to blame. She does, in biblical terms,

00:13:15.520 bear guilt. She does. She should be executed under the law of the land. She should be publicly

00:13:23.160 executed. She is guilty. And yet, two things can be true simultaneously. According to our European 1.00

00:13:30.060 American litigation and heritage history and biblical Christian history. She is responsible 1.00

00:13:37.900 and she should pay the penalty for her crimes, and yet also she is not exclusively the only

00:13:45.780 audience character in this story that bears responsibility. Because she is a woman, 0.89

00:13:52.060 there are other characters that bear responsibility. So she has agency, but not the same degree of 0.86

00:13:57.940 agency as men. And the real solution to this problem is not just to argue for women to have

00:14:04.460 the same responsibilities as men. In fact, the real solution to this societal problem in the

00:14:10.680 West today is to argue that women should simply have fewer rights than men. They actually don't

00:14:17.260 have the same level of agency. We should actually succumb. We should concede on that point. We should

00:14:23.940 actually look to the feminist and say, you're right, Lindsay Clancy, she is guilty, but she 0.58

00:14:29.120 bears less guilt than her husband would bear if he had done it, because women and men are not the

00:14:35.080 same. She does have less agency. And oh, by the way, on a completely related note, the 19th 0.82

00:14:41.100 Amendment must be repealed. Yeah. And we would be remiss if we didn't start just briefly with

00:14:46.120 noting another party that's somewhat guilty in this, which is the pharmaceutical medical

00:14:50.180 industry. Antonio, I'm going to go to you for the details of the case just to catch people up

00:14:53.720 on what the actual charges are, what went on, but I'm going to read to you the 14 medications

00:14:58.000 that she was on leading up to the deaths of her children in January of 2023. She was prescribed

00:15:03.700 Zoloft, an SSRI antidepressant, Prozac, SSRI, Romeron, a tetracyclic antidepressant,

00:15:10.380 amitotriptyline, a tricyclic antidepressant, Seroquel, an atypical antipsychotic,

00:15:16.100 Limesitol, mood stabilizer, anticonvulsant, Ativan, benzodiapacine, Valium, another benzo for anxiety,

00:15:24.200 Klonopin, another benzo for anxiety, a bunch of other benzo prescriptions, Ambien, a sedative for sleep,

00:15:33.020 Trazodone, antidepressant sleep aid, Buspar, an anti-anxiety medication, and Hydrazine, an antihistamine.

00:15:39.300 14 medications and a cocktail of antidepressants of anti-psychotics of anti-anxiety of sleep

00:15:46.500 maybe they're the cause maybe they're not whatever it is profoundly unhealthy and here's the deal

00:15:52.180 24 of women as of 2018 24 of women 60 and older were on some form of antidepressants in the last

00:15:58.920 30 days and we know these drugs have terrible effects we know the impact of them we know how

00:16:04.120 people report i felt flatlined i had terrible thoughts i felt suicidal i felt disconnected

00:16:09.080 from the world and we're giving these out like candy to a quarter of the women in our society 0.75

00:16:13.320 no wonder in some level they're so messed up right and it should be noted that i just due to 0.99

00:16:18.140 the context of the case uh as we're as things are being uncovered in testimony she was actually

00:16:22.120 visiting a number of providers so what's actually happening to make all of this worse as if it's

00:16:26.280 not already terrible that you're taking all of these ssris and these hormone altering drugs she

00:16:32.100 also apparently wasn't consistent with taking them. So she would start, forget for a couple

00:16:36.000 days, restart it. Terrible. And you're postpartum. So your hormones are already changing. You're

00:16:41.400 already in a difficult sort of hormonal, immunological, mental state. You're sleep

00:16:47.160 deprived. And I've got a number of providers prescribing me drugs with different contexts,

00:16:52.480 different assessments of my mental health and assessments of the effects of the drugs and all

00:16:58.280 of these things and all of these things are converging on a woman who it seemed seemingly

00:17:03.420 and this is the case that the defense is making already has bipolar disorder so i mean it's like

00:17:09.720 it couldn't be a more perfect storm for a disastrous heinous thing sinister thing to happen

00:17:15.600 and to your point that's the pharmaceutical industry is behind this and and and we i mean 0.91

00:17:21.180 conservatives have been calling this out for a number of years of just ssris are terrible they're

00:17:26.040 terrible in all cases. They almost never help unless you actually are like a severely... 0.96

00:17:31.000 They help pad the wallet of these companies, to be clear. They do help in that regard,

00:17:35.060 not the patients though. Absolutely. Yeah. And real quick, so we're going to get into a lot.

00:17:38.960 I want to make another biblical argument in regards to feminine agency. But one of the 0.97

00:17:43.620 things that we're going to get into is we're going to talk about male headship. We're going to talk

00:17:47.120 about the nature of women, right? Not just their role. Role is not arbitrary. God's not capricious. 0.92

00:17:53.400 He doesn't call women to a certain role that is completely severed, arbitrary from his innate

00:17:59.500 design. Women are called to a particular role in the home and society at large because they have

00:18:04.720 been made by their nature, designed for it, and not just in the physical aspect that men are taller 1.00

00:18:10.640 and larger and stronger than women. But there is a distinction between men and women, not just in

00:18:15.780 their roles, but roles stemming from design, nature, and that is physical, it's mental, it's

00:18:20.840 psychological, it's spiritual, it goes all the way down. The difference between men and women goes 0.68

00:18:26.100 all the way down. We must reject liberalism, aka what that really is, egalitarianism. The idea that

00:18:33.380 everyone is equal, even in their role in society, in the home, in the church, and everywhere else,

00:18:39.500 because everyone is homogenous, the same. No, we are not all equal, and we're not all equal because

00:18:46.620 God did not create a homogenous androgynous world. He created a world that at the level of nature

00:18:53.220 contains distinctions and because there are distinctions at the level of nature there are

00:18:58.240 distinctions in regards to what we should do. How we then live. What roles we fulfill in society. So

00:19:06.100 we're going to be talking about that but I also we have to address and we'll get there in a moment

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00:20:00.980 the link in the description below. Guys, what we're dealing with when we talk about pharmaceutical

00:20:05.640 companies, and we talk about this witch's brew of 14 different powerful drugs in this

00:20:13.960 cauldron that was stirred up. This is witchcraft. You have to understand that the biblical word

00:20:23.480 for witchcraft is the word that we get pharmacy, pharmaceuticals from in our English language. So

00:20:31.340 it's not hyperbole. It's not an exaggeration. We are talking about a cocktail that is a demonic

00:20:38.360 spiritual witch's brew from powerful organizations, many of which I believe some of the higher-up

00:20:46.340 leaders actually commune with demons and are using this in order to demonize predominantly

00:20:54.920 the female portion of our populace at great financial benefit to themselves. So we're going

00:21:01.620 to talk about witchcraft. We're going to talk about pharmaceuticals and the link between that

00:21:06.480 and witchcraft. We're going to be talking about feminism, not just as a sociological experiment,

00:21:12.860 but also as a demonic force in our society to ultimately undermine God, the patriarchy, the

00:21:21.860 father the son and he the holy spirit and men in society not being able to hold back the tide

00:21:28.380 and we're going to be talking about headship authority rights being intrinsically intertwined

00:21:35.200 with responsibilities that agency does correlate directly with rights this woman lindsey clancy 0.98

00:21:42.380 again please do not mishear me she should be publicly executed after a fair trial of course 1.00

00:21:49.340 she bears more responsibility. And biblically speaking, there are no caveats. There are no

00:21:56.380 exceptions for those who are mentally or psychologically insane. If someone has an IQ 0.89

00:22:03.220 of under 75 and they commit a capital crime, they still should receive capital punishment.

00:22:10.080 If someone is a psychological nutcase, they still should, if they commit a capital crime,

00:22:16.320 receive capital punishment. So this is not the argument, the true conclusion, the truth of the

00:22:22.760 matter if we're Christians and we are Americans with common sense, is that it lies somewhere in

00:22:28.420 between. Lindsay Clancy, according to the Bible and according to our common law, English common

00:22:33.620 law tradition, she bears enough agency to make her responsible that if she did the crime, which

00:22:40.260 she admitted to, then she must do the time. At the same time, she does not, in biblical terms,

00:22:46.500 nor in European American historical terms, legal terms, based off of our heritage, she does not

00:22:52.680 bear the same level of agency that a man would bear. What's so crazy about our society today

00:22:59.040 is actually not that people are carving out certain caveats and excuses for women in regards

00:23:06.100 to agency. What's crazy is that they're trying to have their cake and eat it too. They are carving 0.99

00:23:11.540 out excuses saying that she can't really be held responsible. Women have, essentially this is what 1.00

00:23:16.880 they're saying, women have less agency than men. That is the argument being made and it's not just

00:23:21.600 being made. Hear me. Remember what's going on. The phenomenon, the widespread phenomenon, this is not

00:23:27.400 just one individual nutcase that strangled her three children who was hyped up on this cocktail 1.00

00:23:33.800 of witchcraft. No, all the thousands of women coming out and defending her, what is their 1.00

00:23:40.440 line of argument? They're saying, even if you're not on all these SSRIs and antidepressants and

00:23:46.840 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, postpartum, as just a state of mind, the natural hormones themselves

00:23:55.360 that all women, to varying degrees, experience after giving birth are powerful enough that women

00:24:02.580 cannot be held to the same level of agency as men and that's where we want to give our full-throated 0.99

00:24:09.960 agreement not disagreement we want to say you're right and so how absolutely imbecilic and retarded 0.99

00:24:18.900 is it for us as a country to acknowledge that point as emphatically true and yet say that women 0.98

00:24:27.240 still have the same authority and rights in our public arena to make decisions for the political 0.99

00:24:34.640 decisions for the future of our country. If women have less agency, and not just because of SSRIs, 1.00

00:24:41.320 although that's a massive point, but even biologically, by the hormones and chemical 0.59

00:24:47.100 disposition that their bodies naturally produce in motherhood, if we admit that point, which we do,

00:24:53.300 then we must also in common sense logically correlate that and say okay whatever rights 1.00

00:25:00.820 women have it should not be to the same degree that a woman is able to determine the political 1.00

00:25:07.040 future electing officials who can determine whether or not america goes to war whether or not 1.00

00:25:12.740 america uses nuclear weapons should women if this then that if this then that if women cannot be

00:25:21.040 held to the same responsibility as men then they cannot should not have the same level of rights

00:25:28.240 as men one more biblical argument real quick genesis chapter 3 notice this the apostle paul

00:25:34.600 in first timothy chapter 1 commentating on genesis chapter 3 and the fall of man right sin entering

00:25:41.180 the world through disobedience and through sin the curse coming upon the created cosmos death

00:25:46.660 being the pinnacle of that curse. When God pronounces his judgments, he says, first thing

00:25:52.460 he says is, Adam, where are you? He comes walking to the garden after both Adam and Eve had sinned,

00:25:57.800 and the first words out of God's mouth are, Adam, where are you? Not Eve, but Adam, where are you?

00:26:03.240 God is omniscient. He is all-knowing. He already knows what's taking place, and yet he first calls

00:26:08.860 to account the man. And when Adam and Eve shrink out of the shrubs and come and approach God,

00:26:16.340 he first addresses the man. Did you eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and

00:26:21.360 evil that I forbid you to eat from? And he says, yes. And then Adam makes an excuse, which is an

00:26:26.800 unmanly thing to do. He is effeminate in his answer. He says, yes, I did it, but it was the

00:26:32.340 woman that you gave me. Adam is not ultimately blaming the woman. Adam is actually blaming God.

00:26:38.040 You gave me a liability. Then God goes to the woman. Is this true? Did you give to your husband 0.80

00:26:44.800 this fruit? What were you thinking? And she then blames the serpent. The devil deceived me. Now

00:26:52.640 here's the deal. This is a descriptive text in Genesis chapter 3, not prescriptive, right? It's

00:26:57.620 not giving an eternal infallible principle. It's simply describing what took place. But the apostle

00:27:04.260 Paul, he is giving a prescription. In 1 Timothy, he commentates on Genesis chapter 3, and he says

00:27:10.380 this. He says that women should not lead. I do not permit a woman to teach publicly or exercise 1.00

00:27:20.380 authority over a man. Why? And then he says it's the order of creation. Man was formed first as 1.00

00:27:28.760 the head, and man was formed from the dust of the ground, but woman was formed from man and for man,

00:27:34.760 the order of creation. But he cites a second reason. And so many liberal, modern, allegedly

00:27:41.320 complementarian, conservative Christians look over this. But Paul says it's the order of creation.

00:27:46.140 It's also the order and nature, order and manner of the fall. So woman was formed second, not first.

00:27:53.580 But woman fell first, not second. She's the first to fall and the manner in which she fell. What is

00:28:00.580 it. The man sinned with his eyes wide open. Adam knew better. This is not to absolve man of his

00:28:07.640 moral culpability. Quite to the contrary, it actually increases his moral guilt because he

00:28:13.960 bears more responsibility in two regards. One, his office as head, leader, right? Second, not just

00:28:21.300 his office, but his nature. He was sinning with knowledge. He knew better. His eyes were wide

00:28:28.960 open. The man was not deceived. But the woman, she fell first, the order of the fall. She's the first

00:28:35.220 to sin and rebel against God's law. Also, the man in which she fell, she fell by being genuinely

00:28:41.320 duped. Why was the man not duped? Because he couldn't be. It's not just that, oh, well, he

00:28:46.880 wasn't there. You know, the serpent only spoke to the woman, and Adam didn't hear it. That's why he

00:28:51.500 wasn't deceived. No, it says that he was with her in the garden. He was with her in the garden. He

00:28:56.900 had a responsibility to protect her from the lies of the serpent, and yet he abdicated his duty of

00:29:03.340 protecting the woman who was more susceptible to manipulation and deception than he was. Adam's

00:29:10.060 guilt is that he was by office, he was in charge, and the buck stopped there. He bears more moral

00:29:15.780 guilt because of his office, but also because of his nature. He was less susceptible to being

00:29:21.780 manipulated or deceived by the serpent, and therefore should have intervened in protecting

00:29:26.640 and defending his wife from being deceived. And Paul cites this in the New Testament as his

00:29:32.780 reasoning why women should not bear leadership and authority over men. Why is it? Because they

00:29:39.720 were formed second. They are the helpmate of man, not the head. But also they fell first,

00:29:47.900 and the manner in which they fell, they fell by being deceived. And what Paul's essentially doing

00:29:53.260 is he's saying, this is not, yes, it is a descriptive text in Genesis three, but it does

00:29:58.180 not merely serve as a one-off antidote, but rather the woman falling and being deceived in the garden

00:30:04.940 is indicative of the general, right? We're not speaking of each and every individual case,

00:30:10.880 but in generalities, in general, women still today, not just one woman, Eve, but all women,

00:30:16.760 generally speaking are actually more psychologically emotionally mentally spiritually susceptible

00:30:23.780 to deception than men on the whole generally speaking and therefore because women in the way

00:30:31.580 god designed them by nature are more trusting which is a good thing if the woman is in her 0.61

00:30:37.820 fitted role that that particular characteristic aspect of the design of women is simply not 0.99

00:30:44.580 conducive to societal leadership. So here's the deal. Lindsay Clancy, she is guilty on the one

00:30:52.000 hand and should pay the consequence for her crime. On the other hand, she is less guilty because of

00:30:59.320 less agency than had a father, husband, man committed the same crime. And if that be the case,

00:31:07.040 If the Bible and our legal heritage and the reality that even feminists are arguing for,

00:31:15.220 if these things are true, then we should simply follow the line of logic. 1.00

00:31:19.660 If less agency, then necessarily less rights.

00:31:24.460 But let's talk, let's go back to the witch's brew, the cocktail, all these drugs.

00:31:29.680 And Wes, I would love if you could spell out a little bit of the spiritual underlining

00:31:35.160 nature.

00:31:35.960 this is spiritual warfare. There is a demonic aspect. Well, she reported in December, this

00:31:41.060 would have been December of 2022 prior to the death of children in 2023, that she was hearing 0.97

00:31:46.320 a voice, a singular unrecognized male voice telling her to kill her children. Now, actually, 0.86

00:31:52.680 there are tons of stories of this happening. Sometimes there's just straight up murderers

00:31:56.980 and psychopaths. I think of Casey Anthony, for example, who just killed her toddler.

00:32:00.420 She did not allege that she had psychosis. She did not allege that the voices told her to do this.

00:32:04.540 but in this case, at least Lindsey Clancy's claim, a voice came to me and told me to kill 0.98

00:32:10.640 my children. Now, here's the thing I want you to notice about evil. Evil is always some derivative, 0.94

00:32:16.400 some perversion of the good. So why would a demonic voice, a spiritual oppression,

00:32:22.640 come to a mother and tell her specifically that? It's not telling her, cheat on your husband,

00:32:27.500 embezzle money, go into the street, start an OnlyFans, although probably sometimes they say

00:32:31.660 that. When it comes down to it, what do the voices want you to do most? To invert the natural order,

00:32:37.320 the maternal care for your children, and murder them. I think of abortion even. What is the tagline 1.00

00:32:42.520 for abortion? My body, my choice. Think of it as an inversion, actually, of the Lord's Supper,

00:32:48.700 the sacrament of communion, where Jesus takes his body and says, this is my body for you, broken for

00:32:54.940 you. Abortion takes it and says, I will break your body on behalf of me. All evil is perverting, 0.52

00:33:02.260 twisting, taking something good, whether it be children, whether it be sex, whether it be the 0.85

00:33:06.780 holy, sacred things of the church and mangling them. And you have here a mother and these

00:33:12.140 children that should have been the safest in the home, mom as home base, the one that they could

00:33:18.400 trust. And this voice came to her, if it really did come to her and said, you should take that

00:33:23.380 relationship and you should end it you should destroy those childbears and then what happens

00:33:28.480 she goes to her second story window and throws herself out of it with the guilt of realizing 0.99

00:33:33.500 what she's done so in the final act this really was demonic oppression brought on by this cocktail

00:33:39.000 of antidepressants murders her children and then what sin will do is it'll take you too and said

00:33:43.940 and you're not getting out of this either throw yourself out of the window for the guilt of what

00:33:48.180 you've just done. Her attempted suicide, I want to comment on that for just a moment. This is

00:33:53.040 directly biblical. There are direct, completely on-the-nose biblical corollaries to exactly what

00:34:01.280 Lindsay Clancy tried to do in attempting to take her own life. But in typical woman fashion, 1.00

00:34:06.940 she couldn't even do that right. Second story window was not going to do it. But nonetheless, 1.00

00:34:12.120 Think about this in the case of Judas Iscariot.

00:34:15.680 Before he betrayed, fully betrayed Christ, it actually says, and all this ties in, so

00:34:21.600 you're talking about the Lord's Supper.

00:34:23.200 This is the last supper, the Lord's Supper, the last supper that Jesus hosts with his

00:34:28.360 disciples before his arrest, where he is saying, this is my body, which is given for you.

00:34:34.140 And this is the cup of the new covenant, my blood that is shed for the remission of sins.

00:34:38.760 And it's in that moment that Satan fills Judas.

00:34:43.200 There's something so powerful about the Lord's Supper and that sacrament and that moment

00:34:48.940 that Satan can no longer take it.

00:34:51.300 And he comes and fills Judas.

00:34:53.720 And what's the first thing that Judas, being filled by Satan, does in the presence of Jesus

00:35:00.520 and the Lord's Supper?

00:35:01.820 He immediately gets up and has to run out of the room.

00:35:05.480 He leaves.

00:35:05.900 and he then filled by satan does the unthinkable and betrays the lord of glory but then after that 0.74

00:35:12.800 implicitly right the implication is this that that judas is a wicked man who was susceptible 0.56

00:35:19.160 to being filled by satan in the first place by his own agency choosing compromise after compromise 0.98

00:35:25.080 after compromise the bible says that he was in charge of the money bag and that he would help

00:35:29.900 himself so he has been of his own volition his own agency committing sins secret sins without

00:35:36.460 confession without repentance for a long time uh going at this point and that makes him susceptible

00:35:43.180 gives a foothold to satan to then now now it's his failed agency now coupled with satan's unique

00:35:51.060 um direct influence that causes him to go from just being a a petty thief in secret to being a

00:35:59.160 a traitor to the Lord Jesus Christ, but then it seems as though he somewhat comes back to his

00:36:05.920 senses, realize what he has done under Satan's influence, feels this unbearable, overwhelming 0.92

00:36:13.160 sense of guilt, and then hangs himself in a tree. And the place where his body spills out and dies

00:36:22.020 is the field of blood. And so this is the same thing that actually takes place with Lindsay

00:36:29.060 Clancy. There are probably all these moments where she was less poisoned by the drugs,

00:36:34.740 where she had some greater measure of agency than at least what she had later on,

00:36:41.600 but where she was still undoubtedly failing. In some ways, we weren't there. We don't have

00:36:48.520 a recording, we can't emphatically prove it, but I guarantee you this is the most likely scenario,

00:36:54.220 that she was in some way failing objectively, or at least subjectively feeling as though she was

00:37:00.400 failing as a mother. And then that led to her then having a sense of guilt, and then that coupled

00:37:07.820 with witchcraft, this brew of 14 different pharmaceuticals, bringing down her God-given

00:37:15.200 innate maternal nature and bringing down her defense mechanism psychologically and mentally 1.00

00:37:21.100 and emotionally and chemically to make her more susceptible to demonic influence satan filling 1.00

00:37:27.640 her to do the unthinkable and then having this moment of coming to her senses and attempting to 0.95

00:37:34.000 punish herself for what she knew she deserved and trying to kill herself just like judas did in the 0.86

00:37:40.800 Bible. This is tale as old as time, guys. Look, the stories that we have, they're not just stories, 1.00

00:37:46.220 but actual biblical history that we have, you think that we're modern now. You think we're

00:37:50.680 enlightened now. You think that we're educated now, that we're somehow elite. We've somehow

00:37:54.700 evolved above this. You're not special. You are not beyond this. The things that took place that

00:38:00.980 the Bible tells us are objectively true and reliable from 2,000 years ago. This is still 0.97

00:38:07.600 the way the world works today. Satan was real back then. He's real now and roams around like a roaring

00:38:13.880 lion seeking who he may devour. Demonic influence is real. Leaders communing with demons is real.

00:38:21.200 Women bearing less agency than men and therefore should not be appointed in positions of authority 1.00

00:38:26.520 to the same equal level as men is real. Nothing has changed. The only thing that has changed is 1.00

00:38:32.640 our hubris, our arrogance as a society to think that somehow we've risen above the original design

00:38:39.340 that God has made. Yeah, I just wanted to go back to the point of demonic influence too. As I was

00:38:46.260 just preparing for the episode, I was looking into this, and what I found was actually, it's really

00:38:50.180 fascinating in terms of the forensic and medical history behind what you would call postpartum 0.56

00:38:55.340 psychosis, the urge or the impulse that women have to kill their children. And there's actually a 0.73

00:39:01.040 Dr. James Reed is his name.

00:39:03.300 He's, I believe, an American doctor.

00:39:04.740 He started to document this as a clinician, this case where women are reporting, I have 0.99

00:39:11.240 this urge, or it's often a male or a commanding voice to kill my children.

00:39:16.120 And often what he would find as he's documenting this is that these women would say, I don't 0.82

00:39:21.120 want to listen to it, actually.

00:39:22.940 So their maternal affection for their child is the natural impulse for them.

00:39:28.020 And they feel like there's this outside draw or, or, and to the point where they would often report to this doctor in particular, Dr. Reed, take my baby away from me. Something's trying to grab ahold of me and get me to harm my child. And I don't want to do it. Get it away. And, and you see this time and time again.

00:39:48.320 And it's just, I think the idea that going back to your point of this being truly as old as time, this is just the early modern period.

00:39:57.100 As I looked into this, Wes, you alluded to like Hippocratic writings of women having this urge to kill their children.

00:40:02.740 This is actually clearly an attack of demonic, like this specifically, women and their young children, women being particularly vulnerable.

00:40:10.260 we've already talked about this immunologically and hormonally, they are a prime target for

00:40:16.220 demonic influence to do heinous things like this. And then we go back to the case and say,

00:40:20.340 well, all of these things converging, can we really be surprised? And then you said something

00:40:25.740 earlier, I just want to go back to this quickly. You talked about the ways in which we actually

00:40:29.680 agree with the modern third wave feminist assessment of our society as it relates to

00:40:34.780 patriarchy. Because this is really the interesting conclusion. We actually have the same

00:40:39.940 conclusion and as our diagnosis if you will of our society we do live in a patriarchal society

00:40:44.780 all of our institutions our systems jurisprudence and law all of them are patriarchal i remember

00:40:49.920 uh jordan peterson this would have been maybe five years ago he was doing an interview with

00:40:54.100 helen lewis from the atlantic on gq and i remember her pressing him on this topic and and in classical

00:40:59.360 liberal fashion he's like well in what way is our are our institutions patriarchal and she's like

00:41:04.760 well the last name right and she's like gotcha he's like well no actually it's i haven't made

00:41:10.360 up my mind i'm not clear whether or not that's patriarchal um nope dr peterson was wrong the

00:41:15.680 systems are patriarchal there's a reason that women take the last name of their husbands because

00:41:19.680 all of our systems are patriarchal so going back to we have the right diagnosis but here's the 1.00

00:41:24.640 problem feminists hate it yes and and so what we're what we're caught in societally is you have 1.00

00:41:30.760 feminists on one side saying this is the system it's patriarchal to which we on the other side 1.00

00:41:35.040 say yes we agree but the feminists are pulling us into the system of limbo of limbo it's it's

00:41:40.820 complete chaos all this that's so wise all this goes back to genesis chapter three when god is

00:41:45.900 dealing out judgment for the sin of mankind the feminist wants to say that patriarchy is the

00:41:52.040 consequence of sin that's not what's going on god says your desire will be for your husband but he 1.00

00:41:57.600 will rule over you. It's the first half of that statement that is the judgment, not the second,

00:42:03.920 not the latter. So the second half of the statement is he will rule over you. That's not the curse,

00:42:09.500 the consequence because of sin. Male headship, patriarchy is not the curse. The curse is your

00:42:15.580 desire will be for your husband. That's not speaking of an affection or a romantic desire.

00:42:20.480 That's the same language that we later find just one chapter later. In fact, in Genesis chapter 4,

00:42:25.960 when God speaks to Cain, when Cain is tempted to murder his brother Abel, and God says to him,

00:42:33.480 sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is to have you. That is, to master you, to rule over

00:42:42.620 you. But you, rather, must master sin. You must subject sin to your will. You must overcome.

00:42:50.140 So that judgment that God renders, this consequence for the fall of mankind in Genesis chapter 3, as it pertains specifically to the woman, the curse is not patriarchy.

00:43:02.100 The curse is feminism, that is, the hatred, like Antonio was saying, the aversion towards patriarchy.

00:43:09.240 The curse is not, he will rule over you. 0.65

00:43:11.820 No, the curse is, you will desire to rule over him.

00:43:15.600 You will desire to wear the pants.

00:43:17.880 You will desire to be the head, not the tail. You will desire the position, the office of authority

00:43:23.920 over the man, but he will rule over you. Him ruling over you is not the curse, but the design.

00:43:30.960 You hating that, that's what the curse is. Patriarchy is not the curse for sin. Feminism

00:43:37.280 and aversion towards patriarchy is a curse of sin. The last thing that I want to say is this. 0.99

00:43:43.980 In regards to Lindsay Clancy and this particular case, color me 100% MAGA. To be more specific,

00:43:51.420 I would say that in this case, I am MAGA by MAGA. That is, make America great by mother's agency

00:43:58.760 gone again. We must repeal the agency of women. We don't actually repeal that. We simply acknowledge 1.00

00:44:06.060 and observe that that is the reality regardless of what we want to do. And therefore, what we need

00:44:12.340 to do is simply act accordingly. Women do bear less agency, therefore they should have fewer 1.00

00:44:18.340 rights. That doesn't mean that in the eternal sense that they're less valuable. They have 1.00

00:44:23.800 innate dignity as image bearers of the living God in the sight of God, and as it pertains to matters

00:44:30.180 of eternity and salvation, the father, the husband, the brother, the uncle, we look to the women that

00:44:35.680 we love in our lives, and we say, as the scripture says, that she is a co-heir in grace. But being a

00:44:41.960 co-heir in grace made in the image of God, just like man, and a co-heir in grace in terms of

00:44:48.920 salvation in the eternal perspective, all those things are true, innate dignity, value, and love.

00:44:56.180 But that does not mean that she should play the same role or has the same temporal design in order

00:45:02.560 to bear the same rights and responsibilities as mankind in temporal earthly life and civic life

00:45:10.060 as a whole. So women's agency, it's not that we need to make it less. It is less than men. 1.00

00:45:16.880 Therefore, we should act accordingly. Wes, I'll give you the final word. 0.98

00:45:20.440 Well, I was going to say to lay out the model that we've had, but just briefly,

00:45:23.260 imagine the patriarchy was working good in this home. So you have pharmaceuticals. Let's say

00:45:27.540 10% of the blame is this drug cocktail she was given. Well, has someone been instituted in the

00:45:33.240 home as a shield and a mechanism of protection against, let's say, serpents or deceivers that

00:45:39.480 would come into the home oh the husband she didn't have an advocate that's all the way you're saying

00:45:44.360 oh well it would be great if actually god had created an institution whereby she would have

00:45:49.200 an advocate but here's the thing and i'll just i'll give it right back to you but but if if

00:45:53.360 patrick clancy her husband would have walked into a doctor's office and said i'm concerned with my 0.84

00:45:57.720 wife what would have all those female psychiatrists right get out you have no place here so this is 1.00

00:46:04.140 this this is the catch-22 right and i was gonna say here's how it could have gone this would have 1.00

00:46:08.400 been a completely reasonable response. Hey, Patrick, I had a voice come to me last night

00:46:12.840 and tell me to kill my children. Okay? I understand. Here's what's going to happen. 1.00

00:46:17.140 I'm going to sleep with these children in this bedroom with the door locked. We're taking

00:46:20.400 the knives out of the home. We're getting you off the medication. We're getting you some

00:46:23.780 sunshine. We're going to go ahead and have your mom here to help you out. You're not

00:46:28.060 coming in the same room with the kids. You're not being left here alone. You're getting

00:46:31.260 off those pills. But he abdicated. He drove her to the appointments. The day she killed

00:46:36.560 the children was, Patrick, can you go out and get us some food and get us some medication? 0.56

00:46:40.640 Leaves the house, leaves her there alone. He continually offloaded his responsibility.

00:46:45.420 And so in a just society, Patrick Clancy would be there as well. Not necessarily facing the

00:46:50.280 death penalty, but the state coming to him and saying, she told you these things. You left her

00:46:55.440 alone with the children. You left her alone with these things in the house that could have done

00:46:58.740 something about it. You went on a skiing trip a couple of weeks before all the children died.

00:47:03.100 you bear a level of responsibility too but he offloaded it those children would be alive if

00:47:09.960 he took responsibility if he asserted himself and said we're done with those medications flush them

00:47:15.040 down the toilet i don't like what they're doing to you i'm going to protect the kids and keep them

00:47:18.560 you need sleep i'm going to do everything to get you sleep not just rugged authority but taking

00:47:23.060 care of her you need some help you need to get out of the house you need some fresh air and also my

00:47:28.840 kids need to stay alive so we're sleeping here in the bedroom with the door locked that would 0.85

00:47:33.060 have kept the children alive i mean i just saw a case today this was a north dakota woman august

00:47:37.940 6th they're in a custody dispute she's getting divorced calls them on facetime says i hope you're

00:47:42.880 happy you never see your kids again kills three of her children two of them actually the one survived

00:47:46.860 with a knife fathers taking control and saying you don't have rights you don't have the right

00:47:53.140 to just divorce your husband because you don't like him and in our system we've alluded to this

00:47:57.120 the whole episode, coverture and common law. Since the 13th century, influenced by Christendom

00:48:03.360 in England, the law system said women are covered, coverture. They're underneath the umbrella of 1.00

00:48:10.420 their father and their husband. They could not transact property. They could not enter into

00:48:14.380 legal agreements. They did not have the same responsibility. If your grandmother is 85 years

00:48:20.280 old, she was alive in the 1960s when in America, a woman could not open a bank account. A woman 1.00

00:48:25.820 can open a credit card because she was considered underneath her husband. Her husband had that 1.00

00:48:30.500 authority and the husband's having authority in the home. So many vices from OnlyFans, from abortion,

00:48:37.960 from women murdering their children, from women voting for politicians that will enact policies 1.00

00:48:42.420 to welcome in immigrants from the third world. All of these things are downstream of men letting 0.84

00:48:48.740 women have agency. So for the love of children, for the love of your nation, for the love of your

00:48:53.820 wife for the love of your daughters take the rights away yes and i just want to say one more

00:48:59.040 thing too to uh ensure people don't miss this as it relates to what they're calling lindsey i think 1.00

00:49:03.820 they call themselves this lindsey's army of love these are these women dressed in pink they're 0.97

00:49:07.960 outside the courthouse you might have seen some images or videos of this and they're there to

00:49:11.880 support her i just we have to acknowledge that the animating principle the animating sentiment

00:49:17.440 of all of these women on TikTok, elsewhere, visiting the courthouse, it's one thing. It's

00:49:22.540 this. You see how much of a burden children are? This is why we should be able to kill them before

00:49:28.840 they're born so we don't kill them after. That's a great point. So again, I want to end this 1.00

00:49:35.040 episode the way that we started. This is such a massive case because it's not just talking about

00:49:41.280 one crazy individual. It's the thousands and sadly, tens of thousands of other crazy individuals,

00:49:49.060 they're called women, who are feminist and standing in solidarity, completely agreeing 0.95

00:49:55.200 and supporting Lindsay in the murderous choice that she made to strangle her three children.

00:50:01.540 And this, in principle, this one group, so it's not just one individual, but a whole group of

00:50:07.080 many people, this is actually one of three groups right now in America that are an absolute imminent

00:50:13.700 threat to the survival and the well-being of our country. Zionists celebrating the death of 0.91

00:50:22.700 children in Gaza, right? In addition to that, liberals, leftists celebrating the death of 0.76

00:50:29.000 Charlie Kirk and children growing up without a father, and feminists celebrating the murder, 0.96

00:50:35.520 the strangling of three children by their psychotic, demon-possessed mother. Zionist, 0.98

00:50:42.300 liberals, feminists, right? Each of these have one case. There are many cases, but one that has 0.94

00:50:48.200 risen to the surface as the extreme epitome type of case. But each of these three parties that

00:50:55.600 actually are doing the crime, they have standing in solidarity with them tens of thousands of people

00:51:01.660 who fully support it. Zionist, liberals, and feminists are a massive threat and liability 0.99

00:51:08.940 and imminent danger to our nation. And in love, love for God, love for our families, our churches, 0.99

00:51:16.220 our home, and our country, we must and we will. This is why NXR talks about these three things

00:51:22.600 more than anything else. We will stand against Zionism, stand against liberalism, and stand

00:51:29.220 against feminism because it kills kids. Thanks for tuning in. Everything we do here at NXR 0.51

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The NXR Podcast - August 24, 2026

CN Weekly - The Biblical Case For Women Having Less Agency Than Men

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