The NXR Podcast - CN Weekly - What Really Happened At America First United？

00:00:00.000 And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you.

00:00:10.020 Ask what you can do for your country.

00:00:12.540 I spoke at an event over this past weekend called America First United.

00:00:33.840 The event has been dragged, as the kids would say, on the interwebs for the last 48 hours or so.

00:00:41.680 I hopped into a space on X yesterday briefly to talk with some who were criticizing the event.

00:00:49.560 A lot of the criticism, I think, was actually valid.

00:00:53.300 I wanted to give you guys an inside perspective.

00:00:56.560 I was actually there on the ground.

00:00:58.420 I was one of the speakers.

00:00:59.740 I got to meet the other speakers and some of the guests.

00:01:02.940 So that's what we're going to cover in today's episode.

00:01:05.280 What was the America First United event all about?

00:01:08.580 How did it actually go down?

00:01:10.120 where was it good and where did it go wrong that'll be our episode today tune in now warning

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00:02:33.040 so i wanted in this episode to show some clips from my speech at the america

00:03:02.920 first United event that took place on Saturday. Unfortunately, as our tech team was trying to

00:03:09.980 accumulate some of the clips from my speech and maybe even a clip or two from some of the other

00:03:13.940 speakers, we were unable to do so. That was one of the problems with the event. Whether or not it

00:03:20.140 was their fault or whether or not something went wrong with Rumble, I don't know. I'm not a tech

00:03:24.800 guy. I can't tell you the source of the problem, but I can tell you the result. The recording is

00:03:30.960 terrible. We try to go back to the live stream on Rumble and it's bad. It's just all over the

00:03:38.780 place. You're listening and hearing my audio, but seeing the speaker in the visual who came

00:03:44.260 directly before me, it's not synced up, the audio and the visual. It cuts out at certain places,

00:03:50.500 multiple places. So we were unable to show you actual clips from the speech. The best recording

00:03:56.800 that's at least intact and not interrupted

00:03:59.300 was actually just from somebody's cell phone.

00:04:02.340 Somebody posted it on Twitter, a recording of my speech.

00:04:05.040 So I took that and reposted it myself.

00:04:08.440 I made it my pinned tweet.

00:04:09.720 I'll leave it there pinned on my profile,

00:04:11.920 at least for the next few days, maybe this week.

00:04:14.840 For anybody who is curious,

00:04:16.380 who wants to hear what I spoke about,

00:04:18.180 what I had to say at this event,

00:04:20.120 you can go to my handle on X,

00:04:22.260 at Joel Webin, at Joel Webin.

00:04:24.340 look for my pinned tweet under my profile and that's my speech it's 39 minutes in length which

00:04:30.780 was longer than i was supposed to go um everybody it was kind of the the idea i guess you know i

00:04:36.420 didn't organize the event but the idea from those who did was a full blitz of having you know

00:04:42.200 multiple speakers and uh just one after another after another after another um some people slated

00:04:49.040 to speak for five minutes some people slated to speak for 15 or 20 or 25 i was slated for 25 minutes

00:04:56.080 the individual who went right before me who i actually really appreciated

00:04:59.600 um he was one of the better speakers uh he was slated for 25 minutes as well and he went over

00:05:05.360 his time and i sat there and i watched five minutes an hour and 25 minutes yeah he went well

00:05:10.160 over his time it wasn't an hour and 25 but he went well over his time and i watched him i thought

00:05:14.960 i don't know it just it uh invigorated me inspired me i saw an older man speaking longer than he was

00:05:22.960 supposed to speak and i thought i should do that too so so anyway so my speech is 39 minutes you

00:05:28.720 can check it out uh it has sub captions whoever uh uploaded the video from their phone put sub cap

00:05:34.160 uh caps on subtitles and um they don't actually link up with what i'm saying so you have to listen

00:05:41.600 to the audio, but it's coming from somebody's iPhone. So the audio is not great, but you can

00:05:46.280 make it out. It's good enough. I hear what I'm saying, but the subtitles don't exactly mix.

00:05:52.200 But basically, let me give you a little bit of a summary of what I said, and then we'll kind of

00:05:57.840 break down the event. And Wesley was there with me, so he'll have things to add as well.

00:06:03.060 But what I said was, in essence, within the first two, three minutes of my speech, I started by

00:06:09.400 saying that every organization, every movement, whether it be religious or cultural or political

00:06:16.460 is going to have hundreds, not just dozens, but hundreds of different values because there's a

00:06:23.400 lot of valuable things in the world. We're not just one trick ponies. And so I talked about how,

00:06:29.420 you know, I, as a Christian pastor, I value the life of the unborn, sanctity of life. I value

00:06:35.120 traditional marriage. I value children. I value education. I value, you know, there's lots of

00:06:41.240 things that we value. But what ultimately distinguishes a movement one from another

00:06:48.180 is not their values, but their priorities. So you can value a thousand different things and do so

00:06:53.700 genuinely. But you cannot prioritize a thousand different things. If you prioritize everything,

00:06:58.680 you prioritize nothing. So when it comes to emphasis, that's where you have to be selective.

00:07:03.480 That's where you have to narrow it down.

00:07:05.460 That said, if you narrow it down to a single issue, then you may be able to have a broad

00:07:15.260 coalition that has the numbers and the momentum in order to win when it comes to the realm

00:07:23.160 of politics and elections.

00:07:25.480 However, if all you have, all you share is one priority, then you could win.

00:07:32.560 but you will not have the unity required to do any good upon winning. And so kind of one of the big

00:07:39.960 statements that I made in my speech was this. I said, it's ironic and a bit hypocritical

00:07:49.260 if we do the very thing that our current administration did. MAGA, at least MAGA 2.0

00:07:59.100 in its most current rendition is a one priority movement. It championed all these different

00:08:07.960 things, mass deportations and a strong golden age economy for the average American worker.

00:08:15.660 It championed that we were going to have no more wars. That was one of the big things.

00:08:21.880 Lots of different things that they were saying they were going to emphasize and prioritize.

00:08:28.320 But the reason that so many of us are disenchanted here about a year and a half into Trump's

00:08:34.900 second administration is because they turned out to really only prioritize one thing.

00:08:40.860 We're not getting the mass deportations.

00:08:42.780 We're certainly not getting no new wars.

00:08:45.260 We got a new war.

00:08:46.800 That's what a lot of people are upset about.

00:08:49.000 We're not getting a great economy for the average American worker.

00:08:52.840 The average American worker is being replaced by infinity H-1B visas.

00:08:57.460 by no regulations when it comes to AI and data centers and all these kinds of things.

00:09:03.340 And because of the war and the Strait of Hormuz and all these different things with trade,

00:09:08.440 the average American worker, even if he is employed, he can't afford to get to the office

00:09:12.260 because gas is outrageously expensive with no signs of going down in the near term future.

00:09:19.580 So what did MAGA actually become?

00:09:22.540 Well, it became a one-priority movement, the one priority being pro-Zionism.

00:09:29.520 Mark Levin, and I said this in my speech, was not lying when he put his arm around Donald Trump and said,

00:09:35.740 this guy right here, he's our first Jewish president, to which Trump responds by saying, it's true, it's true.

00:09:43.160 It is true. It is true.

00:09:45.240 MAGA for, you know, for the present these days is, what does it mean to be MAGA? It means to be

00:09:53.900 Mark Levin. It means to be Lindsey Graham. It means to be Laura Loomer. What does it mean to

00:09:59.980 be MAGA? Well, it means being Jewish. MAGA was truncated into really one issue, right? They

00:10:08.700 could compromise and bend on everything. Trump, in his rhetoric, when it comes to defense of the

00:10:14.100 unborn, he backpedaled immensely. And he did so in his campaign, not just after being elected,

00:10:19.960 but in his campaign. And people such as myself were willing to look over that thinking,

00:10:24.220 well, you know, Kamala would be worse. And for the record, I think Kamala would be worse.

00:10:29.480 But the point is Trump compromised both in his campaign and certainly now in his administration

00:10:36.480 on issue after issue after issue, all these different things that they said would be

00:10:41.500 priorities, he was willing to backpedal and compromise except for one. The MAGA, current

00:10:50.880 iteration of MAGA that we have today is a one-issue political movement, and it's a pro-Zionism,

00:11:00.380 pro-Israel movement. So for anyone to say, hey, we've had enough, and we're going to counter this

00:11:10.080 by doing the exact same thing, except our one issue will be anti-Zionism, anti-Israel.

00:11:18.840 That will fail. It might win. I mean, there really are millions and millions of people

00:11:25.480 across the whole world, but here in these United States, they've soured on Israel. That's

00:11:33.240 undeniable. Israel is viewed as less favorable than it has been in a very, very long time. And so

00:11:41.440 a one-priority movement that makes everything about just being anti-Israel and anti-Zionism,

00:11:49.480 that would actually accumulate a broad coalition and maybe have the numbers to win.

00:11:57.560 but like like MAGA it won't be doing any good and so I don't have any interest in being a part of

00:12:06.000 something like that so this is what I said in my speech I said I have no interest in that

00:12:09.860 so hundreds of values we need to narrow that down in terms of focus to a handful of priorities but

00:12:17.780 it has to be more than one and so I offered four pillars Christian nationalism whatever

00:12:24.700 whatever this new political movement is, that ultimately its goal would be to unseat MAGA.

00:12:32.320 You have MAGA in the last 10 years that replaced the neocons, and then in typical animal farm

00:12:39.620 fashion became the neocons. And so whatever does to MAGA, what MAGA did to the Bush dynasty,

00:12:48.380 it's going to need to be explicitly Christian. It's going to have to be pro-Christian at a

00:12:56.440 national level. That doesn't necessarily mean that everyone in the United States has to be

00:13:00.940 a genuine born-again Christian. I know that that's not going to happen, but it needs to be

00:13:05.680 unapologetic, explicit, public, and saying, no, we're not doing the principled pluralism anymore,

00:13:12.280 and we're not doing secularism anymore. Secularism is not viable. It's simply

00:13:17.000 a placeholder. Every single nation has a religious ethos. There's some kind of spiritual component.

00:13:24.600 People are not robots. We have souls. So there's going to be some kind of reigning dogma or

00:13:31.360 orthodoxy that every nation embodies, and you have to choose. It's not whether but which.

00:13:38.380 If it's not Christian nationalism, then it'll be Islamic nationalism, Hindu nationalism,

00:13:43.720 Jewish nationalism, some religious element will be seated in a national embodiment.

00:13:52.440 And so it should be unapologetically Christian.

00:13:55.660 That was number one.

00:13:56.580 Number two was patriarchy.

00:13:59.760 And I talked about, you know, for me personally, I don't think that women should hold civil

00:14:04.500 office.

00:14:05.260 I personally think that the 19th Amendment was a massive mistake.

00:14:09.320 I understand that although there are more people who are open to that rhetoric than

00:14:14.120 there have been previously, that's still a minority report, and I understand that that's

00:14:21.080 not going to be the official position of whatever political movement replaces MAGA in the future.

00:14:30.120 So I try to draw a spectrum, a sliding scale.

00:14:33.680 So patriarchy, you're probably not going to be as far as I am on that particular topic, but there should at least be a general consensus that we believe that when all things are equal, men should lead.

00:14:50.460 that we've done enough of the boss babe feminism. We have disparaged and looked over men,

00:14:57.660 especially young men, young white men, and we are going to be prioritizing men. So we may not

00:15:05.680 draw a hard line when it comes to women and their participation in politics, but we're at least

00:15:13.560 going to say that all things being equal, we're going to give men a shot at leadership. We believe

00:15:20.440 that men have been called by God to be leaders, leaders in their homes, leaders in the church,

00:15:26.880 and leaders when it comes to the nation. So that was number two. Number three was race realism.

00:15:33.680 That one's probably the least palatable for Americans in 2026, but I again tried to draw

00:15:41.500 a bit of a spectrum. I'm maybe over here further to the right, but there should at least be an

00:15:47.520 understanding that people are not fungible widgets, that you cannot merely replace a

00:15:53.620 certain demographic of people and think that just because people have adopted certain ideals or

00:16:00.360 propositions, that they're going to behave the same way. People are unique and peoples are

00:16:08.580 distinct. Race is not merely a social construct. It's not just culture. It's not just the hippity

00:16:15.820 hoppity music influencing people to behave a certain way. There's a lot of white trailer park

00:16:22.500 kids who listen to rap that glorifies murder. And yet per capita, they do not go out and murder

00:16:31.240 other white kids at the same rate as other biological races do. So there is something

00:16:37.860 to race as a physical category, not just cultural. Acknowledging that and then looking at our

00:16:45.600 heritage here in America, who built the country, who they built it for, for us and our posterity,

00:16:52.140 and there should be a general deference, a general consensus of we are not going to disparage

00:16:59.000 white people. We are not going to allow in the government or corporations or Ivy League schools

00:17:05.940 for white people to be disparaged, to be overlooked, to be discriminated against.

00:17:12.180 America is predominantly a white country, not by much, but it still is. And it certainly in

00:17:17.880 its heritage and history was built and founded by white Christian Europeans. And so that will

00:17:24.560 be respected and that will be honored. So a general understanding of race, it's not just

00:17:31.800 culture, but there's also a racial component. And in that, I talked about the genetic side of the

00:17:37.500 equation, but I also introduced a spiritual side, the doctrine of Traducianism. That's something

00:17:44.040 that a lot of Christians are not familiar with. But it's the idea that in the same way, the mother

00:17:49.420 and father, when it comes to new life, conception, both the mother and father being used physically

00:17:58.040 to forge a new person, the question is, how does God create the soul? We know that God creates

00:18:03.740 people, but he does it through certain mechanisms, means. God actually physically knits, Jeremiah

00:18:09.900 says this, knits each baby in their mother's womb, but he does it through the human means of a mother

00:18:15.720 and father coming together. And so God is creating a new life, but he's doing it through natural

00:18:22.580 means. The question is in regards to the soul. Does a husband and wife come together and form

00:18:30.320 a new child physically, but then God creates ex nihilo out of nothing, a soul in the 17th

00:18:37.760 dimension, and then implants it into this fertilized egg, this human being, this zygote,

00:18:43.280 or does God actually form the soul, the spiritual side of the equation in a similar way to how he

00:18:52.300 forms a human being physically through the mother and father? In other words, we are embodied souls.

00:18:59.500 That's what a human being is, an embodied soul. And we are both physically and spiritually

00:19:05.860 the descendants of our fathers, of our ancestors. And this is how people used to think. I mean,

00:19:14.640 you read even novels like Tolkien, not that long ago. We're not talking about a thousand years ago,

00:19:20.940 but even just a century ago, really even more recent than that. And you'll see that people

00:19:27.740 instinctively thought and just assumed that if somebody came from a noble line of people,

00:19:35.860 that they would be able to embody a certain degree of nobility themselves. And there was a physical

00:19:43.620 component to this. And there was also something that was beyond just the mere physical. There

00:19:49.000 was a spiritual element to this. This is so-and-so, son of so-and-so, son of so-and-so. He comes from

00:19:55.620 a line of virtuous people who have displayed courage for centuries. And therefore, we have

00:20:02.160 expectations upon him that he will be a courageous leader and he will serve his people well in this

00:20:08.820 regard and that regard because there's a certain genetic composition, but also there is a spiritual

00:20:17.160 composition. That's the idea of traducianism, that it's not just the soul made ex nihilo off to the

00:20:22.840 side and then placed into this baby in the womb, but rather that the mother and father in the same

00:20:30.520 way that God creates the person physically, but through the means of husband and father,

00:20:34.800 he does that in a spiritual sense as well. And so peoples are different. They're distinct

00:20:41.120 genetically, not just culturally, that's part of it, but there's a religious distinction,

00:20:46.460 cultural distinction, but also genetic and even spiritual distinction in the formation

00:20:52.260 of a people. And those things do not disappear or alter overnight. Those are things that if

00:21:00.460 they are to change, they would change slowly over the course of multiple generations. So you can't

00:21:06.680 just take somebody who's Indian or Haitian or Somalian and have them come onto the magic soil

00:21:13.180 and repeat the magic words and adopt a set of propositions and all of a sudden be like everyone

00:21:20.060 else. That's not the way the world works. That's not the world that God actually created. We can't

00:21:25.700 go against the grain. People can do incredible things, innovation, invention, discovery,

00:21:32.300 but all of it is with the grain. People do incredible things when we are working hard

00:21:38.460 with the grain, that is, in the direction with the world that God actually made, when we are

00:21:46.360 operating within the natural order. When we're going against that, saying boys can be girls and

00:21:51.780 girls can be boys. A Haitian can be an American within 15 minutes. And you need to see it like

00:21:59.000 that. I know I just kind of said that nonchalantly, but I'm going to back up for a moment.

00:22:03.300 A boy can be a girl and a girl can be a boy is just as scandalous as a Haitian can be an American.

00:22:11.900 You need to feel that in your soul. I'm not saying that somebody can't immigrate here

00:22:18.340 from a non-European country and generations down the line have an embodiment of what it means to

00:22:26.620 be American. So I'm not saying that it can never change, right? So it's not exactly the same as a

00:22:32.160 boy becoming a girl and a girl becoming a boy. But to say that that could happen automatically,

00:22:38.560 that we can simply, it's just a matter of information, education, that we can simply

00:22:42.400 give somebody from the other side of the world, a few classes about the declaration of

00:22:48.060 independence and, you know, our founding fathers and, you know, and then, you know, sprinkle some

00:22:53.240 evangelism on top and get them to say the sinner's prayer and become a Christian, you know, so they

00:22:57.680 converted religiously and they've been indoctrinated politically, you know, in terms of American values

00:23:03.260 and boom, they're just American as anyone else. That is, that is, that's national transgenderism.

00:23:11.880 it's uh it's just not a thing it is preposterous and so then the fourth pillar right so christian

00:23:18.160 nationalism masculinity patriarchy race realism um and an appreciation for the posterity of those

00:23:26.780 who built the country and then the fourth one being anti not just zionism it's not just oh it's

00:23:32.160 the the marxists it's the bolsheviks it's the communists uh oh it's the nation state of israel

00:23:37.720 oh, it's the IDF, it's Mossad, it's Bibi Netanyahu. No, it's a little bit more specific than any of

00:23:45.540 those things. It is a problem that has been going on for centuries and centuries. It's Jewish

00:23:51.120 supremacy. We can't just say Zionism. It's Jewish supremacy. It is world Jewry. It's not every

00:24:00.700 single Stein, but it is every single time. And we need to recognize that. So it's not every single

00:24:07.700 Jew. But there is a problem with some Jews embodying and even saying out loud with glee,

00:24:19.760 glib, laughing about the goy, the cattle, this embodiment of Jewish supremacy. And here's the

00:24:27.960 reality. This is why words matter and accuracy matters. A random Mossad agent or a random IDF

00:24:37.680 soldier, I will probably have some massive disagreements with, and there are multiple

00:24:43.340 problems that I could point out and criticize, and that could be virtuous for me to say those

00:24:48.140 things out loud. But that random IDF soldier is not a threat to my five children over here on the

00:24:55.020 other side of the world. They're not. But the Jewish billionaire in my country, who's not

00:25:04.240 an Israeli citizen. He's an American citizen. He's never even visited Israel, but he controls

00:25:10.420 mass amounts of wealth, has his hands in our politics. He is influencing media and entertainment.

00:25:18.480 He is a threat to my children. So it's not just Israel or Israelis or the Israel government.

00:25:26.000 It's Jewish supremacy. I don't want to just say it's all Jews. No, it's Jewish supremacy.

00:25:34.240 And to illustrate that, I talked about how if I was in Uganda and I said, you know what? Uganda should be pro-white. Well, Uganda's black. That's not their heritage. That's not their current reality. That's simply an inappropriate sentiment for that context.

00:25:55.860 In the same way, if I went to Uganda and said, I understand you're not pro-white, but I am a white supremacist and I think that I'm better than everyone else, that's probably not going to be well received in the context of Uganda.

00:26:11.440 In other words, to make it even more particular, Jewish supremacy in dot, dot, dot, in non-Jewish

00:26:21.100 countries. If you think that your people, if you have a sense of national pride, ethnic pride even

00:26:28.280 for your people, I'm proud of my people. I'm proud of my ancestors. Not just it's okay to be white,

00:26:35.120 but it's good to be white. I'm proud of people of European descent who were Christian people,

00:26:43.840 moral people who have done immense good in the world. I'm proud of my heritage. I'm proud of

00:26:49.020 my ancestors. That's actually not a sin. It's not. I know everybody tries to say that that's

00:26:55.040 this terrible, sinful thing, but it's really not a sin. Uganda should probably have Ugandan pride.

00:27:05.120 a sense of pride about their people. But if I'm in Uganda and I think that me and my people are

00:27:13.140 better than them and all their people, I should probably go home. I probably shouldn't be in

00:27:19.340 Uganda because there's a place for me somewhere else. If I'm so proud of my people and I think

00:27:25.520 that my people are superior to the people that I'm living amongst, I should go be with my people.

00:27:31.820 So the irony is that in that sense, I'm not really an anti-Zionist. I actually kind of believe, at least in some, depends how you define it, but some of the tenets of Zionism. I actually believe that the Jewish people, whether all this should have happened the way that it did or not, without trying to get into some of the history, the fact still remains that currently the Jewish people do have a place that is their home.

00:27:58.800 there is actually a geographic region, a place, a nation state, where if you are a Jew

00:28:05.800 who embodies and holds to Jewish supremacy, there's a place where you can go.

00:28:12.320 There's a place where you can live. So even the essence of Jewish supremacy,

00:28:18.280 if it's Jewish supremacy in Israel, we love our people and we think our people are the best people

00:28:26.020 and we're really proud of our people here in Israel. Fine. But to live in another country

00:28:35.600 and think that you're better than those people and actually exploit those people with degenerate

00:28:43.800 media, exorbitant forms of usury and financing burritos, infiltrating their political systems

00:28:53.140 so that it doesn't do good for their native citizens, but instead serves, it kind of transforms

00:28:59.480 their citizens into a tax farm to do good for your people on the other side of the world.

00:29:04.200 You see the problem. That's a problem. And that's not actually anti-Semitic. That's not,

00:29:12.080 oh, I hate all Jews by virtue of them just being Jewish. No, what I hate is I hate Jewish supremacy

00:29:19.400 in non-Jewish countries. I hate Jewish supremacy in America because America is not a Jewish nation.

00:29:29.700 Jews can live here if they live here peacefully and they're not trying to subvert, they're not

00:29:36.300 trying to infiltrate, they're not trying to destroy, they're not trying to exploit, then fine.

00:29:42.180 But living in another country while thinking that your country is superior and your people are superior and the people that you live among are inferior and simply exist to serve you and your special chosen race, that's an ideology that is really, really demonic and it shouldn't be tolerated.

00:30:08.120 So anti-Jewish supremacy in non-Jewish countries.

00:30:12.760 And in our context, that would be being against Jewish supremacy here in America.

00:30:19.840 So I offer those as four pillars.

00:30:21.720 It's got to be Christian.

00:30:22.820 It's got to be Christian even at a national level, Christian nationalism.

00:30:26.060 It's got to be masculine.

00:30:27.560 It's got to be male-led.

00:30:28.720 It's got to be patriarchal.

00:30:30.440 Can't just be the boss babes.

00:30:33.280 You know, just this gynocracy that we've been living under for quite some time.

00:30:37.540 It's got to be an understanding of race, not hating people, not disparaging people or taking advantage, exploiting people, but a recognition that it's not just culture.

00:30:51.860 It's not just the rap music, you know, or a matter of education or this or that.

00:30:57.300 No, people at both the physical and the traditionalism, a spiritual level are actually distinct.

00:31:05.140 God created a world of distinctions.

00:31:07.960 Not everyone is the same.

00:31:09.920 And this basic understanding should be believed and it should be employed in the way that

00:31:17.140 we govern the nation.

00:31:18.980 That should influence our immigration policies.

00:31:21.760 That should influence our elections.

00:31:24.720 Who should serve office?

00:31:26.440 All these different things.

00:31:27.560 We should have a basic understanding that race is real.

00:31:31.640 And then lastly, being anti, not just anti-Zionism or anti-Israel, but anti-Jewish supremacy here in America, because it's not, or at least it's not supposed to be a Jewish nation.

00:31:43.600 I said these four priorities, not one, not just one priority, anti-Israel, but these four priorities seated among a host of different values.

00:31:56.360 That has the fortitude for a movement that can have a broad coalition, right?

00:32:03.320 Because there's a sliding scale, as I said, with each of those four priorities.

00:32:06.920 You're not saying you have to be this tall to ride the ride.

00:32:09.740 You're boiling it down to what's the lowest common denominator?

00:32:13.040 or what's the minimum requirement for people to be a part of this movement, right? They may not

00:32:18.060 be as patriarchal as I am, as hardcore on Christian nationalism as I am, you know, this, that, and the

00:32:23.420 other, but there's a basic acknowledgement, a minimum, a minimum buy-in with each of these

00:32:28.740 four pillars. And with that, you can, it's, it's low enough, the bar for a broad coalition,

00:32:35.820 but it's also particular enough that it's not just the, we hate the Jews club, so that the

00:32:45.500 coalition that actually is derived from these pillars, these principles, priorities, is something

00:32:53.020 that could actually accomplish good, not just win an election and then do nothing, but win an

00:33:00.740 election and actually do good for these United States of America. So that was my talk. I was

00:33:07.760 willing to go to this event on that basis. I asked the host, they were very gracious. I said,

00:33:15.560 can I talk about whatever I want to talk about? They gave me liberty to do so. And so with that

00:33:21.300 understanding that, you know, this is supposed to be a broader coalition than I think is healthy

00:33:28.180 or right, I'm going to go and essentially say the opposite. I'm going to say, this won't work.

00:33:37.120 This is not enough. You have problems with Israel, but you're a Democrat and your speech,

00:33:45.660 I mean, one of the guys at the event, his speech was just talking about white people historically

00:33:51.580 being bad and committing genocide in Congo and committing genocide in India. And his whole

00:33:58.340 speech was the genocide in Gaza is bad because genocide is always bad. And let me remind you of

00:34:04.260 how bad white people have been. Jose Varga was his name. Varga, you know, so not that shocking,

00:34:14.100 But yeah, so for me to go to an event and link arms with these kinds of individuals, they had a Muslim woman directly after my speech.

00:34:27.260 That's the one negative thing I'll say in regards to organizing the event.

00:34:32.900 They were gracious.

00:34:34.340 They were hospitable.

00:34:35.700 I disagree with the philosophy.

00:34:38.080 I went to voice my disagreement, and I did.

00:34:41.700 Other than that, though, they were very kind.

00:34:43.440 the only thing that I did not appreciate is they scheduled this Muslim woman who offered a Muslim

00:34:48.080 prayer to a false god directly. They could have scheduled her at any point throughout the day.

00:34:54.580 They scheduled her directly after my speech. So you have on video me stepping down, giving the

00:35:00.880 microphone to the host, and the host immediately welcoming this woman wearing a hijab and then

00:35:06.960 offering a prayer to, um, to demons. And I, you know, as a Christian pastor, um, I find that

00:35:16.580 highly, highly offensive. Um, I knew that she was going to be there. I found out, you know,

00:35:22.660 a few days before that she was going to be there, but the fact that she was scheduled directly after

00:35:27.260 me. I find that I was offended by that. So that was one thing that I think was kind of a low blow.

00:35:38.260 I don't know if it was intentional. I'm not saying that it was, but it did seem like more than just

00:35:44.340 a coincidence. We're going to have the Christian pastor and then we're going to get this cool

00:35:48.860 optic of a Christian pastor immediately followed by this Muslim woman praying a Muslim prayer.

00:35:54.800 it felt intentional. And if it was, then I take very great offense at that. I think that that

00:36:01.700 was wrong. But anyways, that was the event. So a lot of the criticisms that the event has garnered

00:36:08.900 over the last couple of days, I agree with. Because what fellowship? The scripture says,

00:36:15.920 what fellowship does light have with darkness? Does Christ have with Baal or Beelzebub?

00:36:21.400 Well, the answer is none. There are certain people that you cannot link arms with. It has

00:36:30.300 to be Christian. It has to be pro-white, not anti-white. The first speaker that they kicked

00:36:40.200 it off with, Jose Varga, his whole speech was an anti-white speech. Imagine that. We're going to

00:36:46.360 partner with this guy because he's against Israel, but his entire speech, other than the things that

00:36:52.280 were against Israel, the whole rest of it was against white people. And white people make up

00:36:56.880 the majority of the country that he wants to hold office in. How is that going to work? It doesn't

00:37:04.260 work. One of the individuals, another woman who was there, I didn't know about this until I was

00:37:10.420 at the event, but she allegedly was selling, at least at some point, maybe a few weeks ago or

00:37:18.220 months ago, but was selling t-shirts that say, Doc's Ice. Doc's Ice. You can't partner with that.

00:37:27.680 So you can't partner with the female libtard who wants to see ICE agents

00:37:33.100 doxed and their families killed. You can't partner with the hijab Muslim girl praying to

00:37:42.420 sand demons. And you can't partner with the Mexican guy who's giving you a history of all

00:37:51.280 the genocides committed by white people and why white people are terrible. Meanwhile, he's wanting

00:37:55.780 to hold office in a predominantly white country that was founded by white people. So there can

00:38:03.280 be no unity. So America first united. I'm glad that it happened because it needed to, you know,

00:38:10.980 a lot of people said that this doesn't work, but it needed to be proven. And I would say that the

00:38:17.060 verdict has officially come back in. Everyone now sees, no matter what side of the aisle you're on,

00:38:23.120 everybody i think agrees ironically we are now united we're united in our our our belief our

00:38:31.340 core belief that we cannot unite um there's not going to be a broad coalition with um with a

00:38:38.280 bunch of like yes there could be some bill clinton type you know democrats um who are really probably

00:38:44.160 more like independents who could come out and vote um in our favor but but your core democrats

00:38:50.980 who, you know, their main priorities are flood the country with immigration, abort babies,

00:38:59.840 feminism, white people are terrible. There can be no unity with that kind of sentiment. So no

00:39:10.600 unity with Muslims, no unity with libtard, you know, girls who are saying we should dox ICE

00:39:18.240 agents and no liberty with Mexican congressmen who, who think white people are the worst people

00:39:25.880 who've ever lived. So that was pretty much what I learned from the event. I was willing to go

00:39:31.000 because there were some great people. There really were. There were some great people that I knew

00:39:35.400 were going to be at the event who had reached out to me, said, Hey, I heard that you're going to be

00:39:39.500 speaking. I'd love to meet you. And so there were some great networking opportunities, great

00:39:44.240 connections uh the event had you know it was only maybe 50 60 people half of them were speakers and

00:39:50.240 just for the record um there's a reason for that they this was not an event where they were selling

00:39:55.240 tickets and inviting people to come it was supposed to be um an event that was for

00:40:00.500 primarily just a media event uh where everybody got in and we you know live streamed it on rumble

00:40:07.220 but then that failed terribly because all the tech went wrong um and you know the video the

00:40:13.120 stream wasn't working and so nobody was watching uh it got very few views i think it would have

00:40:18.700 gotten um i think they you know they said like five million it wouldn't it would there's there's

00:40:24.220 no way it was ever going to get that but i think it would have gotten a lot more views if the stream

00:40:29.220 had actually been working but the purpose of the event was not to sell out an auditorium they

00:40:34.160 weren't selling tickets they weren't trying to it was um for opsec reasons it was supposed to be a

00:40:40.880 very, um, protected private small event, um, where it's basically just the speakers and some

00:40:47.960 of their personal friends and, uh, and a live stream to be consumed digitally that, uh, the

00:40:54.480 tech failed. So anyways, I went because I wanted to make the connections with some of these people

00:40:59.440 and, uh, and that was very fruitful, very, um, very, uh, privileged that I got to meet some of

00:41:06.020 these great people. And I also wanted to go to voice my point of view, to essentially say

00:41:13.080 a one issue party that's united on nothing other than we don't like Israel is never going to work.

00:41:22.620 And that was my speech. And the last thing I'll say is that was my speech at America First United.

00:41:29.300 it. My speech was basically, this doesn't work. And I got, you know, half of the room

00:41:35.900 was applauding louder than for any other speech. So most of the people there, or at least half of

00:41:42.140 them, agreed. And so I feel like it was valuable. I'm glad that I went. But the criticism in the

00:41:50.660 aftermath, I think, you know, unfortunately is merited. It was an idea that was just

00:41:58.180 not a good idea it's that's it's not going to work and if it did work even if it did work that

00:42:04.880 you know raging democrats and these people and these people muslims and christians can all get

00:42:09.500 together and win an election just on being anti-israel um even if the idea worked in terms

00:42:17.240 of having the numbers to win um it wouldn't it wouldn't do anything else it would we would win

00:42:24.240 and maybe cut off AIPAC, but then do what?

00:42:30.120 Flood the country with a ton of foreigners,

00:42:32.700 murder a bunch more babies,

00:42:36.220 dox ICE agents and put people like me in jail.

00:42:42.120 So it was a bad idea.

00:42:45.380 I understand the train of thought.

00:42:49.060 I understand how it came about,

00:42:50.860 but it ultimately was a bad idea.

00:42:52.740 but I'm still glad that I went. I don't regret going. I think it was worth going. I think what

00:42:59.580 I had to say was worth hearing, and the people that I met were worth meeting.

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00:44:05.880 Pragmatism is very alluring. There's an old business paradigm. It's fast, good, cheap. And

00:44:11.620 it's really tempting to be like, I can push all three of these levers, right? I can have a fast

00:44:15.640 product, I can get it out quickly, it can be good quality, and I can pay bottom price. But there's

00:44:20.400 a little widget where once you select two and try to do the third one, oh, you want to do it cheap?

00:44:24.600 Well, you lose the quality that you're going to get. It's very tempting to take pragmatic

00:44:28.720 shortcuts, pragmatic shortcuts in business, pragmatic shortcuts in the church, pragmatic

00:44:32.620 shortcuts with your workout plan, and in politics in the same way. What if I just expanded my

00:44:38.400 coalition, kind of downplay this, we take the cultural differences on abortion, on the sanctity

00:44:43.900 of marriage, take these things and downplay them. Well, we've just expanded our voter base.

00:44:48.400 But just like that problem in business, it doesn't work. What I like what Joel did too,

00:44:52.440 though, is he didn't say, okay, so the big 10 doesn't work. So let's go down and let's get

00:44:57.100 this criteria. Let's make it 300 items. We're going to be perfectly aligned on every single

00:45:01.920 one of them. You made great concessions. You said, hey, as far as a political movement goes,

00:45:05.880 and this isn't the church, there's a distinction between them. They are two separate kingdoms.

00:45:10.220 Politically, you must be this tall to ride the ride.

00:45:13.680 You have to defer to Christianity as the true religion for one, but also as the American religion.

00:45:19.800 I mean, America first united.

00:45:21.760 America, from the very beginning, has been a Christian nation.

00:45:25.460 In 1900, it was 97%, not even white, Christian, and predominantly a Protestant nation.

00:45:32.720 So if we're doing America first united and there's no mention of the religion that forged the core,

00:45:37.320 that forged the stock of America, what are we even doing? But Joel, you said it well. You said,

00:45:42.100 even if you're not a Christian, and I hope you do become one because I'm a pastor and I love you,

00:45:46.180 I want to save your soul, you at the very least need to defer to Christianity. Rupert Lowe is a

00:45:51.280 great example of this in Britain. He'll hopefully run to be prime minister and do incredible work

00:45:55.480 against mass migration. Now, he himself does not personally call himself a Christian, but he says

00:45:59.940 Christianity is a religion that built the United Kingdom, and Christian it should remain. It should

00:46:05.460 be Christian in its culture, Christian in its heritage, Christian in its public facing.

00:46:09.840 So even if politically, again, not in the church, but politically, we have guys that

00:46:14.300 are great on the cultural issues, they're great on marriage, they're great on abortion,

00:46:17.740 and they personally wouldn't call themselves a Christian, but they would say, I recognize

00:46:21.440 that Christianity built America.

00:46:23.100 I recognize that Christianity is good for the culture.

00:46:25.940 It's good for men and women, mothers and fathers, and they defer to it.

00:46:29.780 We can maybe work with that person.

00:46:31.780 This is not a, you must be perfectly aligned.

00:46:34.440 basically the foundation of the country. We had several deist founding fathers who were just like,

00:46:39.360 I mean, at the individual level, I'm probably not observing this with any degree of piety,

00:46:43.500 but nationally, this is what our people is. This is what our nation is. And so

00:46:48.420 you're able to distinguish, I think, in the political realm, like the individual themselves

00:46:53.480 versus their public policy. So we distinguish. We're not broad tent enough. We don't all fit

00:46:59.340 under this banner. Anna Kasparian is one of the examples. She was invited to the event. She didn't

00:47:04.000 come. But her comments talking, cheering that white people have become a minority in the United

00:47:09.600 States, she was cheering it on in a clip from just a couple years ago. I can't unite under a banner

00:47:14.760 with that type of person. They hate me. They hate my children. So we can't do that. Also, we have to

00:47:20.180 win. The stakes are real. The consequences are real. And so the four pillars, you must be this

00:47:25.820 tall to ride the ride, Christianity, male-led, race realism, and anti-Zionism. We get these four.

00:47:33.720 That's the minimum.

00:47:34.780 We can actually make something work.

00:47:36.020 Yeah, I like the business example,

00:47:39.200 like fast, good, and fast, high quality, and cheap.

00:47:43.860 And the fact that we've talked about this before,

00:47:46.040 but politics is the art of the possible.

00:47:47.780 There's always inherent trade-offs

00:47:49.080 in any political movement.

00:47:50.220 There's always give and take, push and pull.

00:47:51.960 This is as old as time

00:47:53.240 in terms of just the compromises that have to happen.

00:47:55.600 But the difference is the foundation

00:47:57.360 upon which those negotiations are actually happening.

00:47:59.920 And so I like to think of the four pillars as like,

00:48:01.620 what do we have to like to the point of what do we have to be true what has to be true for our

00:48:06.620 political movement but then there's all of these negotiations that happen on top of that which is

00:48:11.320 to say we believe our nation should be christian now to what degree should we legislate that what

00:48:15.580 should our policy be we agree that we agree that men should be predominantly in politics and and

00:48:20.800 in the public sphere those sorts of things now to what degree do we legislate it so it's like

00:48:25.780 the reason that um in america a hundred years ago you could have a christian nation predominantly

00:48:31.300 white but still have vehement disagreement over things is because there's degrees of things there's

00:48:36.960 degrees of to the to which your country will be socialist what should the tax rate be what should

00:48:41.180 our policy or immigration policy be but all of these things are happening on the bedrock of

00:48:45.500 hegemony on the bedrock of yes but we're the same people we have the same interests

00:48:50.160 but that's when it breaks apart pillars maybe right exactly but it breaks apart when the

00:48:55.360 foundation is is it's it's wobbly it's cracked it's disjointed and that's what you have when

00:49:00.700 you have different worldviews different people they literally can't build a foundation together

00:49:04.480 because their interests the foundation is to serve the interests of the house that's built

00:49:09.080 but their interests of what kind of house is built is it a mud hut or is it a you know is

00:49:13.640 it a stately mansion is it a colonial but like when the interest of the house is different the

00:49:18.160 foundation cracks it doesn't work and so this is why that like fundamental worldview what is it

00:49:22.940 that we believe that we must believe in order to even serve the same interest for one another

00:49:28.120 That's what the four pillars represent.

00:49:30.000 And if you're only known by your opposition to something,

00:49:32.760 Hegel talks about this, Heidegger,

00:49:34.340 if you're only known by your opposition,

00:49:35.840 what happens is that you're locked in a tension

00:49:37.700 where you're defined by the other party.

00:49:39.640 So instead of defining yourself

00:49:40.920 and actually overcoming this tension that you're locked in,

00:49:43.560 all you do is you continue to engender it.

00:49:46.340 So it's then 20 years back and forth,

00:49:47.740 Zionism, anti-Zionism, Zionism, anti-Zionism.

00:49:50.380 It's this struggle that you never escape.

00:49:52.580 It has to be escaped by saying,

00:49:54.020 those things matter,

00:49:55.240 but we're going outside of this paradigm.

00:49:56.720 We're not playing in the 10% tax or 12% tax.

00:50:00.100 That's a paradigm that you're locked into to keep you from zooming out and saying,

00:50:03.840 there's a lot more things that we could be focused on.

00:50:06.000 So you have to get out of that paradigm.

00:50:07.400 Yes, that matters, Zionism versus anti-Zionism, but positively set forward.

00:50:12.280 What are you for?

00:50:12.960 This is my positive vision.

00:50:14.700 And that establishes a new paradigm that you get to eventually establish, set forward,

00:50:19.360 define the terms of before something else inevitably comes along and opposes you.

00:50:24.180 And by the way, this is what's happening, I think, and it's happening along demographic lines, but with respect to the paradigm shift, it's like paradigms are helpful.

00:50:32.760 Like paradigms are helpful in the sense that an ADIQ person can understand how to think inside of a system that's coherent and logically centered.

00:50:41.160 But the problem is shifting out of paradigms is really painful.

00:50:44.800 You have boomers today, 60 years and older, who think in a paradigm that it's almost like if I'm 18 years old.

00:50:52.180 it's communism versus capitalism right that's a paradigm where like everything bad is communism

00:50:56.980 everything good is capitalism there's a whole other world outside of those two you give them

00:51:00.840 a study you give them a policy prescription they take the information and pass it through

00:51:05.840 that paradigm they say okay well how does this make sense with respect to okay and and but the

00:51:10.880 problem is you have a demographic uh 25 and younger in america today predominantly white

00:51:15.580 that is trying to is like has thrown the paradigm out altogether and so it's like you can't even go

00:51:20.940 to a CPAC conference and expect to be able to communicate with, because they're thinking in

00:51:25.620 one way, and we've broken out of the paradigm. And so we're in this period of shifting paradigms

00:51:30.500 that's really painful. There's a lot of like, well, I don't know exactly where do you stand?

00:51:35.160 You know, are you on my team? Are you not on my team? And all of these things are

00:51:37.900 being presently figured out. But ultimately, to the end of your point, which is, we have this

00:51:43.060 new frame of communicating about politics and what we're for and what we should do in the public

00:51:49.720 sphere yeah and that's why yeah so breaking out of the paradigm you know the the thesis anti-thesis

00:51:56.860 synthesis um because that's that's some of the criticism that i would get is uh well this is um

00:52:03.780 it's too novel it's too um it's too extreme uh it's never going to win um but you know but i what

00:52:14.040 i'm trying to do is is break out of some of these pre-existing paradigms and set forward a new

00:52:19.600 positive vision knowing that its first iteration is probably not going to work but you throw

00:52:27.460 something on the board and you get labeled a far-right extremist and this is preposterous

00:52:32.960 and you know you're a radical christian nationalist pastor joel levin you know like

00:52:37.300 um far-right extremist you know uh but but then over time you do multiple you know reiterations

00:52:46.400 and one of the more novel developments,

00:52:49.960 even in my own thinking

00:52:51.140 and the positive vision I'm trying to set forward

00:52:53.420 is adding to these four pillars

00:52:55.700 a spectrum for each of them, right?

00:52:59.220 So it's four pillars, it is distinct,

00:53:02.920 it actually has substance,

00:53:04.600 it actually has a positive vision,

00:53:06.880 there's real ideology and convictions there,

00:53:10.440 something to prescribe to,

00:53:12.200 but giving a sliding scale to each of them.

00:53:15.080 So Christian nationalist, legislating all 10 of the commandments from Exodus 20.

00:53:22.820 Well, if that's it, it'll be you and your contingency of 14 people, but saying, okay,

00:53:31.160 what's the minimum bottom line here for the Christian nationalism piece?

00:53:36.060 It's acknowledging that every nation has a religious element, that religious neutrality

00:53:44.020 was always a lie. Neutrality, religious neutrality, even for a nation at a national level

00:53:50.780 is a myth. It doesn't exist. Every nation will be religious and religious pluralism

00:53:58.200 is really just secularism, which is not tenable long-term. It merely serves as a placeholder

00:54:06.520 to dethrone the prior religion in that national conception so that it can be weakened,

00:54:15.380 sidelined, and then replaced by another religion.

00:54:18.660 Secularism has literally just been the interim zone in between Christianity and something else.

00:54:27.920 And so what I'm saying is, no, the something else is coming, let's go back to Christianity.

00:54:33.400 So how much of a Christian nationalist do you have to be in order to be a part of what we're trying to set forward and others like us are trying to set forward?

00:54:45.100 Well, you have to be a born-again, regenerate Christian in church every Sunday.

00:54:49.720 Your children are baptized.

00:54:50.980 No, no.

00:54:52.140 We want that at a personal level.

00:54:54.260 So if we're in the category, there are categories.

00:54:56.560 So if we're in the spiritual category as a Christian and as a pastor, I would love to see all my fellow Americans be Christians personally, that they believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and repent of their sins.

00:55:11.400 But in the political category, what's required, the minimum bottom line is simply a recognition and an acceptance that religious neutrality is a myth and that every nation will have an orthodoxy, some kind of religious orthodoxy, and that for America, it should be Christian.

00:55:37.220 what does that look you know what's a tangible example it means um it means you personally may

00:55:44.680 not be a christian but you're going to criticize if the white house says happy diwali but you're

00:55:51.040 going to say um that's good when the white house says happy easter right you're going to have that

00:55:59.080 kind of recognition you're going to support and defend uh that officials swear in on the bible

00:56:05.440 and not the Bogdaviv. That's some tangible examples. And people can get behind that

00:56:13.680 without being Christian. And Rupert Lowe is a great example of that. So with each of these

00:56:19.600 things, the patriarchy piece, I think the 19th Amendment should be repealed. I understand that

00:56:25.020 that's probably not going to be happening anytime soon. So what's the minimum bottom line? At least

00:56:30.860 acknowledging that men have been disparaged and disenfranchised for the past 15, 20 years.

00:56:38.380 And so an acknowledgement that men in a general sense are called to be leaders. And so all things

00:56:49.180 being equal, we've got a man who has the right positions and a woman who has the right positions

00:56:54.660 and both of them have equal charisma and, you know, gifting and talent. They're both good

00:57:00.560 speakers. They're both bright, you know, and intelligent and all these things. If all things

00:57:06.460 are equal, but we only have one position to fill, we're going to, by default, choose the man.

00:57:13.680 Can you get behind that? Because you have a general agreement that when all things are equal,

00:57:20.100 when in doubt in a general sense men should lead right and then the race realism thing it's not

00:57:27.420 just culture different peoples are different and those differences can shift it's not a perfectly

00:57:36.440 it's not concrete set forever people can change um you know clarence thomas his ancestors once

00:57:45.800 upon a time were living in huts. But Clarence Thomas has done a world of good. He's incredibly

00:57:53.160 intelligent, and he's probably the best Supreme Court justice that we have. But Clarence Thomas,

00:57:59.720 although his ancestors were living in a hut once upon a time in Africa, he was not living in a hut,

00:58:06.600 meaning that Clarence Thomas came about as a product of multiple generations, not just multiple

00:58:13.920 years, but generations. So it's not a racial determinism that's hard set and concrete,

00:58:21.380 wooden, that doesn't believe any altercation is ever possible, but it is not racial determinism,

00:58:30.040 but race realism and recognizing that it's not just culture. Race is a real, not just a social

00:58:37.600 construct, but it's a real biological and spiritual category and change can happen.

00:58:46.400 But in this category, we're talking about peoples changing and that change happens slowly,

00:58:52.300 not just years, but generations. And so that being assumed now, how do we think about

00:59:00.600 immigration how do we think about um a host of civil policies um in our nation as it pertains

00:59:09.160 to can you can you agree with that some people are going to be further to the right right but

00:59:15.000 can you at least that would be the minimum bar and then the you know what does it mean the

00:59:19.940 anti-zionism what is the minimum bar that i'm trying to draw there is um you don't have to

00:59:26.140 agree that it's every single Stein, but there does need to be an acceptance, an acknowledgement

00:59:34.300 that Jewish supremacy here in America is not American and it doesn't serve our interests.

00:59:42.680 And it's actually immoral. In moral categories, it's actually sinful. It is sinful for someone

00:59:49.540 to go as a minority into another country that their ancestors did not build and then assert

00:59:56.540 that they're better than everyone else there and that that country ultimately is to serve

01:00:01.520 them. That's actually, not only is it not American, it's not moral. It's actually, it's

01:00:10.980 wicked. And so it's not just anti-Israel as a nation state. It's not just anti-Netanyahu

01:00:17.380 or anti-Zionism, it's anti-Jewish supremacy here in these United States.

01:00:26.420 That's the minimum bottom line and putting some vocabulary, some language that's providing

01:00:33.840 specificity around that. That's something that is clear enough, specific enough, and robust enough

01:00:43.320 to where those four pillars would do some good in the world.

01:00:48.100 But also it's understanding enough

01:00:53.800 by adding the sliding scale to each of them

01:00:56.540 and the minimum bottom line,

01:00:58.320 it's understanding enough and welcoming enough

01:01:01.740 to where you actually could, I think,

01:01:04.440 get half of the country plus one on board.

01:01:07.860 I really do.

01:01:08.640 I think that that could win.

01:01:11.280 So that's what I set forth.

01:01:13.320 at uh at the america first united and that's uh was formulated by us um and you guys have seen us

01:01:21.080 come to some of these conclusions in real time it's not something that we came out of the womb

01:01:25.240 believing it's something that's been developed and evolved over time the four pillars um a host of

01:01:32.040 values but over time narrowing it down to a handful of priorities and the most recent development was

01:01:39.660 adding that sliding scale to each of those four pillars. And so I think, obviously I'm biased,

01:01:46.060 but I think that that is a good positive vision. I'm not the only one who's expressed these things.

01:01:54.300 I'm not going to claim that it's novel to me. I have some original iterations to that and the way

01:02:03.240 to think about it and voice it. But I did not come up with the whole enchilada. A lot of other guys

01:02:09.440 have done great work and uh yeah so but that's what i presented and i think it was fairly warmly

01:02:15.740 received ironically by i would say 50 plus one of the people who participated in this conference so

01:02:22.680 if that's a microcosm you know of um you know kind of like a a case study of you know america

01:02:30.660 in a larger capacity then i think that that was kind of a proof that uh that this could uh this

01:02:38.360 could be a winning, um, a winning movement. Uh, last thing I'll say is, you know, the,

01:02:43.660 the final criticism, uh, and it's, and it's big, a big criticism is, you know, doing an America

01:02:49.520 first event without Nick, uh, without Nick Fuentes being a part of it. Um, obviously there are plenty

01:02:56.520 of other people who've talked about America first, um, besides just Nick, but Nick has done a ton of

01:03:02.020 work, um, in that regard. And he was, I don't know if he was the first, I don't know all the

01:03:08.220 lore, but he's certainly an early adopter. I mean, his show called America First, he's been doing

01:03:13.080 that for 10 years, has received a ton of persecution, not just criticism, but genuine

01:03:21.520 persecution, debanked, deplatformed, threats on his life, assassination attempts, all these

01:03:29.800 different things. And so I think that was part of the criticism is you're hijacking something

01:03:36.400 that doesn't belong to you. Nick is the rightful leader of this America first coalition. And the

01:03:44.540 only thing I'll say with that, I agree that Nick deserves immense credit for the work that he's

01:03:51.380 done. There's just no denying that. And everybody knows it's not a secret that I appreciate Nick

01:03:57.340 and consider him a friend. I don't know all the behind the scenes stuff with the hosts, but

01:04:04.100 but I asked them when they asked me to speak I said well you know that was one of my first

01:04:09.300 questions is Nick going to be there and I was told I was told that he was invited that they

01:04:16.940 reached out to him and invited him and and they told me that it was inconclusive is the way that

01:04:22.940 they presented it to me was he might be there so all the way up to the actual event I you know me

01:04:30.640 you know getting arriving there uh friday night so i knew by saturday but friday night when i

01:04:36.400 showed up um i was still under the impression not that nick would be there but that it was a maybe

01:04:41.580 that he might be uh show up as a surprise guest or or like uh come in you know remotely through

01:04:48.840 zoom or something like like some other guys did dan blazerian did i think uh i think buckley

01:04:54.060 Carlson did a few guys. So, um, so just for the record, um, I, you know, I don't know if there

01:05:02.100 was, uh, anybody trying to hijack something from Nick. Um, I certainly wasn't, I was under the

01:05:07.360 impression that he was invited and might show up at least, uh, remotely. Um, and then, you know,

01:05:14.160 in terms of the host, um, I think, I think they, they did want him to be there. Um, so I don't

01:05:20.940 think that they were trying to hijack it, you know, or do something dubious. I think that they

01:05:28.040 wanted to involve Nick. And so the criticism of, you know, this is Nick's thing and you're trying

01:05:35.420 to hijack it. I don't think the host, at least, I don't know about everybody in attendance, but I

01:05:41.940 don't think the hosts were trying to hijack it. But if you're able to, if you're willing to alter

01:05:46.380 that criticism and say, okay, you know, your intention was not to hijack it, but you just,

01:05:52.480 you shouldn't, you shouldn't have done this, um, uh, with, without, without, I don't know,

01:06:00.440 some kind of input from Nick, like, does this actually serve the America first movement?

01:06:07.700 You know, um, like you, you know, even if he didn't come, you should have, you know,

01:06:12.400 got his permission and and his his counsel his input in the event because the event that you

01:06:19.620 actually held muddies the waters and actually presents something that um that is not uh what

01:06:28.320 nick and others have been trying to to build um if that's the criticism i think that that's probably

01:06:34.340 fair so um any other thoughts for this episode i'll throw in a random one uh so there were

01:06:40.940 speakers from the left side of the aisle and the right, and a big difference you could see between

01:06:44.720 the two was that those that were speaking from the left, you mentioned Jose earlier and others,

01:06:49.660 the entire disposition, the way they talk, their appeals, it's totally different. Guys, the right

01:06:54.800 is the winning side, and they're winning for a number of reasons, truth, but also you see it in

01:06:59.240 the posture, the confidence, and the masculine nature of this new Christian right-wing movement

01:07:05.040 that's growing. What did the left appeal to? What did the speakers that were candidates for Congress

01:07:09.020 on the Democrat side of the aisle appeal to?

01:07:11.100 Guilt.

01:07:11.440 Genocide.

01:07:12.360 Guilt.

01:07:13.100 Give me stuff.

01:07:14.620 What did the right come in and say?

01:07:16.280 Hey, we have a positive vision.

01:07:17.920 Monty Fritz, candidate for governor in Tennessee.

01:07:20.760 God bless him.

01:07:21.740 Soul to the earth.

01:07:22.980 A heritage American.

01:07:24.660 God has a calling for you.

01:07:26.300 You have a mission.

01:07:27.560 Men, be strong.

01:07:29.020 Women, be keepers at home.

01:07:30.360 A positive, assertive, muscular vision for here's what this nation should look like.

01:07:35.560 Here's what this movement should be defined by.

01:07:37.660 What did the left have?

01:07:38.620 the muslim woman who got up after you she said uh well it's going to be kind of hard to follow that

01:07:43.580 weakness guilt passivity blame that's the best of the left that's at best what they have to offer

01:07:53.100 the best of the right is a compelling vision that millions of young men are hopping on board with

01:07:58.340 yeah the that's well said that the left um it was palpable uh night and day all they all they

01:08:05.500 black and white some could say some would say black and white um all they appealed to was um

01:08:11.740 was equality and um and perceived rights so like everyone's equal and um and historically

01:08:22.460 these things have happened allegedly um and it's time for us to get our stuff give me um you know

01:08:31.420 So their appeal is the didn't do nothings.

01:08:36.220 We didn't do nothing, but we have rights to everything.

01:08:41.500 So give me your stuff because we need equality.

01:08:45.580 Whereas the right, what really, to put just a little bit more of a fine point on what you were saying, Wes,

01:08:51.700 what they presented was instead of rights, it's duties.

01:08:56.800 Virtue.

01:08:57.620 Virtue.

01:08:58.140 It's not like this is what you're owed.

01:09:00.480 It's, this is what you owe, actually.

01:09:06.600 This is what you owe to God, to country, to kin.

01:09:12.380 This is virtuous instead of just liberty.

01:09:16.980 Liberty is immensely important.

01:09:19.700 I don't want to downgrade liberty.

01:09:22.380 And I understand that liberty is a founding principle for our nation.

01:09:26.520 It's a part of our heritage and our ethos and those kinds of things.

01:09:29.260 However, when liberty supersedes virtue, there's a problem.

01:09:35.080 There's a big problem where if in the name of liberty, when liberty is truncated as merely some perceived right for why you can strip on a camera with OnlyFans or why you, you know, this, that, or the other,

01:09:55.900 then it's just, there's no substance there. And so what I saw, not from everyone, but from

01:10:05.760 guys like Monty, guys like me, and there were others, was they were setting forward a positive

01:10:11.220 vision of duty, virtue, instead of just rights and liberty. It was duties and virtue. God has

01:10:20.740 called you to this. This is who you should be. This is who America should be. Why? Because it's

01:10:27.020 true, good, and beautiful, because it's right, because it honors God. We have a duty with this

01:10:34.160 great heritage that we're a part of. We have a duty to sustain it and to build that. And so,

01:10:42.520 yeah so that's that was um that was encouraging and compelling um but the left will always have

01:10:51.520 um a contingency um you know because when when they argue as kind of the the the foundation of

01:11:01.840 their platform uh you know perceived rights and what they're owed um there's there's always going

01:11:09.480 to be a great number of people who will get behind that because there will always be um plenty of

01:11:16.840 i'll just say it uh democrats will always be in business because there will always be losers

01:11:22.740 and you know what you're owed is uh that's really compelling to losers because losers

01:11:32.160 that's the only way they survive is someone else giving them something um so the only way

01:11:40.440 there's really only two ways and i've been saying this i you know i went viral with right wing watch

01:11:45.400 recently but i'll say it again the only way ultimately that we win um because you're always

01:11:51.900 probably going to have half or more of the country that uh that are uh attracted more to the

01:12:00.660 you are owed something than the rhetoric of you owe something, duty and virtue.

01:12:08.620 And so the only real way long-term that we can win is you have to get rid of universal suffrage.

01:12:15.900 And because, not just because of power and these kinds of, but because it's wicked.

01:12:22.380 So in the name of righteousness and honoring the Lord, it's actually, it's wicked. It is wicked

01:12:28.560 that a deacon in a church who started his own business and provides a tangible product that

01:12:36.580 does real good in the world and that helps his fellow citizens and who pays 10 times as much

01:12:43.760 in taxes and has been a faithful husband and has eight children that he's providing for without

01:12:49.620 subsidies from the United States government and who also served in the military. And it is

01:12:56.440 absolutely wicked. You have to see it as immoral. It's actually, it's immoral that he doesn't get

01:13:03.440 any more say, and he has an equal say in his country to someone else who came from the other

01:13:09.520 side of the world, has been here for five years, attained citizenship, is on welfare, doesn't

01:13:19.360 contribute, doesn't have a family, doesn't have any stake in the country's history, that's actually,

01:13:28.700 it's not just, oh, we can't win like that, or that doesn't serve our purposes in terms of winning or

01:13:34.300 achieving political power. No, it's morally wrong. It's morally wrong. And so the only way,

01:13:43.640 the only options that I can conceive of for the right, I think that we have momentum,

01:13:48.120 but it's back to that hegelian you know it's just ping pong back and forth so like we have momentum

01:13:53.540 right now because the left overplayed their hand and went crazy you know started chopping off the

01:13:59.120 genitals of little boys you know and and so you know because of you know the high watermark of

01:14:05.980 leftism in america and and not that far back in our rearview mirror 2020 2021 2022 george floyd

01:14:14.760 riots and BLM and transgenderism and men and women's sports and COVID lockdown and all this

01:14:22.320 kind of... Because of that, we right now have momentum, but we don't have momentum yet because

01:14:27.900 we need to be honest. We're not going to win if we can't even be honest. We don't have momentum

01:14:32.220 because we've actually changed our countrymen. We have momentum right now because the ping pong ball

01:14:39.960 just got done hitting the other side of the table

01:14:43.840 and is on its way back.

01:14:45.720 That's all it is.

01:14:47.160 And we just have to admit that.

01:14:49.100 That's all we're seeing right now for the past few years,

01:14:52.580 like with Trump's election.

01:14:54.720 And even at some level, even young men returning to church,

01:15:00.000 all we really see right now is,

01:15:02.680 it's like in the stock market where it's like,

01:15:06.380 there'll be channels.

01:15:07.480 So there's like, you're in a bear market.

01:15:09.180 there's a descending channel. And so the stock will still have certain moments for a few days

01:15:16.520 or weeks or even months where it's going up. But has it actually started a new trend or is it just

01:15:23.260 working its way to the top of this channel, but that the whole channel ultimately is a multi-year

01:15:28.800 descending channel. So it's not going straight down, it's going up and down. So it's forming

01:15:35.580 lower lows and lower highs, lower lows. And I would say that that's still where we are and we

01:15:40.960 need to shoot ourselves straight. We need to be honest. We are still in this leftist trajectory

01:15:46.220 that we've been in for decades and just a ping pong swing up. But ultimately to break the trend

01:15:55.260 for there to be real hope, you have to break out of the channel, the resistance, to use the stock

01:16:02.380 market lingo we actually have to break that resistance and start a new trend and break out

01:16:08.660 of this descending channel and um and for that to happen like i'm again just being honest for that

01:16:15.240 to happen there have to be some major changes it either needed like like the people themselves

01:16:21.000 um the the people that make up america that's why mass deportations were a must you you have to

01:16:27.740 deport 100 million people, that would break the trend. That wouldn't just be the ping pong ball

01:16:32.760 coming. We're all moving left, but we're moving left like this. That would actually break into,

01:16:40.220 no, we now have a new macro trend moving right because the people have changed. So mass deportations

01:16:46.560 would have been one. Another would be much, I know we're probably not going to get rid of

01:16:51.920 universal suffrage, which is a shame, but some pretty serious restrictions on voting.

01:17:00.640 At least a voter ID like the SAVE Act.

01:17:02.840 Yeah, exactly. The SAVE Act. That would have been a potential catalyst for changing the trend,

01:17:09.840 not just the back and forth Hegelian thing, but changing the trend. So SAVE Act would have been

01:17:15.820 one. Mass deportations would have been one. In the spiritual category, there's always the

01:17:21.400 remaining possibility. We pray that God would do this, but revival, that has the possibility

01:17:27.440 to be one. If God really did a work of his spirit to where men, not just returning to church

01:17:34.600 because it's trendy or for tradition, but because they actually are being saved by the spirit of

01:17:41.080 God. And that may be happening, but I would say it's still too early to tell. On that one,

01:17:48.600 I would say, okay, we're going back up to the top of the wedge, the top of the channel right now

01:17:55.220 with men returning. But I would not say that we have yet broken out of the channel. Oh,

01:18:00.180 we broke through resistance. We're starting a new macro trend. That could be happening.

01:18:05.140 But right now, all we know for sure is we're going to the top of the channel. We'll have to

01:18:08.640 see if we break out. Is there really a mass move of God's spirit and actually regenerating hearts?

01:18:13.980 But that would be a third one. So it's the mass deportations or something like the SAVE Act

01:18:18.300 in regards to who can vote and what's required for voting

01:18:21.580 or in the spiritual category, serious, like bona fide revival,

01:18:26.980 those kinds of things.

01:18:28.700 Without those things, what we're experiencing,

01:18:31.160 and I don't think it's over.

01:18:33.120 I think we'll experience it for a few more years.

01:18:35.140 Maybe we've got two, three, maybe all the way up to eight more years

01:18:40.180 to like a 2032 kind of thing.

01:18:42.880 But all we know for sure right now is we've got anywhere

01:18:46.320 from three to eight more years of just the ping pong going back to the top of the channel,

01:18:52.900 but the channel is still descending. And we're not going to break out of that unless there's

01:18:57.920 some real serious changes. And that's why everybody was hopeful with someone like Trump,

01:19:03.160 is he going to cross the Rubicon? Is he actually going to be the great man who implements one of

01:19:10.420 those real changes, not just, um, 12% versus 10%, you know, and he actually gets us the, you know,

01:19:17.600 the 10% instead of the 12, um, no, like, like something like abolishing income tax, like all

01:19:25.060 to get to use that category. Um, so, but as of now, we're almost halfway through his second

01:19:32.160 administration. And, uh, as of now, like, uh, if, if what we've seen so far is any indication

01:19:38.160 of the remainder of his presidency, then it's a done deal. We should be able to admit

01:19:45.660 he's not the great man and he's not going to cross the Rubicon. And so we're still waiting,

01:19:51.440 still waiting for someone to do something great, for a great man to come forward and do something

01:19:58.420 that's outside of the dialectic, outside of this back and forth, back and forth descending channel.

01:20:04.800 So the positive vision that we're setting forward is something that we think people can get behind, but ultimately even that doesn't break the channel.

01:20:16.020 That would be enough to hopefully identify and select a great man who then would have to get into political power and then do something political, something tangible like mass deportations, like the SAVE Act, those kinds of things.

01:20:33.140 So we work, we hope, we pray, and ultimately God's sovereign, and he will decide.

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The NXR Podcast - May 04, 2026

CN Weekly - What Really Happened At America First United？

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