The NXR Podcast - October 31, 2023


DAILY TRUTH - Potential Salvation For All Vs. Actual Salvation For Many

Hosted by
Joel Webbon Harrison Smith Antonio Griffith Dale Partridge Wewsley Todd Calvin Robinson
Mentioned
Jesus Christ
DAILY TRUTH - Rejecting “Limited Atonement” Is Denying God’s Justice DAILY TRUTH - No Empathy Warriors, You Are Not More Compassionate Than God

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6 minutes

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Word count

880

Sentence count

33

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What does it mean to be a universalist in the reformed soteriological view of salvation? Is God limited in terms of how many people he saves, or is there a God who only saves a limited number of people?

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00:00:27 everyone limits the atonement the arminian limits the atonement the provisionists which
00:00:34 isn't really a thing but they limit the atonement every what i'm saying is every
00:00:40 soteriological framework limits the atonement
00:00:46 the question is simply how it's not whether but in which way does your soteriology that word
00:00:57 simply means a study of salvation, doctrine of salvation. So your view of salvation, your theology
00:01:03 about salvation, who God saves, how God saves, what you believe the Bible's teaching espouses
00:01:10 on the subject of salvation, no matter what view you hold, you believe that in some form or fashion,
00:01:18 in some way, the atonement of Jesus Christ, that is his payment on the cross for sin,
00:01:23 it is limited the only person who does not limit the atonement at all is the universalist who
00:01:31 believes that christ paid for every person's sin and every single sin of every person and there's
00:01:39 a word for universalism it's called heresy and the irony is that the person who doesn't limit
00:01:45 the atonement is a person who won't have any atonement and will go to hell for being the
00:01:50 heretic that they are. So if we want to be orthodox and hold a view within the Bible 0.99
00:01:57 and not blatant heresy, then you must hold a soteriological view, a view of salvation
00:02:05 that limits the atonement. So at this point, you're not saying, hey, what I believe the Bible
00:02:11 teaches about how God saves, who God saves. I have a choice between if I want to view God's
00:02:16 salvation as being limited or unlimited? No. You don't have that choice. The unlimited, that just
00:02:21 makes you a heretic. So your choice is not, do I want to think that God's salvation is limited or 0.89
00:02:25 not limited? No. Your choice is between, do I want to think that God limits his salvation in this way
00:02:31 or that God limits his salvation in another way? Because either way, if it's true, if it's biblical,
00:02:37 if it's orthodox, it's going to be limited in some form or fashion. And the simplest way that I can
00:02:44 explain it is like this. The reformed view of soteriology that holds to particular redemption
00:02:52 or limited atonement. We believe that Christ's atonement is limited in terms of its scope,
00:03:03 how many people are covered by his blood the who the who is the limiting factor
00:03:13 the arminian and in a different way but pretty much the same thing the provisionist
00:03:19 believes that christ atonement is limited not in its width or its breadth its scope
00:03:26 how many people it covers they believe it covers everyone but they believe that it's limited not
00:03:33 in its scope but in its depth how much sin is covered see we believe in particular redemption
00:03:43 limited atonement that christ died for some and i think that we can say as the scripture does in
00:03:50 fact explicitly say Christ died for many more than just some many but not all insofar as all
00:03:59 would represent universally each and every individual who's ever lived and ever will
00:04:05 Christ did not die for all in a universal sense but he did die for many but for those that Christ
00:04:12 died for the many he covered in his death every single thing that they would ever need
00:04:20 to have eternal reconciliation with god meaning that christ atonement covered all their sins
00:04:28 past present and future including the sin of unbelief including the sin of rejecting christ
00:04:34 and not only that not only atonement for sin but in christ atonement he also paid for their
00:04:41 justification that is being declared by God as righteous for their sanctification that they would
00:04:46 grow in the fruit of the spirit and for their glorification that one day this body would come
00:04:51 up out of the ground and be new and resurrected with Christ forever what Christ paid for within
00:04:59 the reformed soteriological view what Christ paid for is is every single thing that he paid in such
00:05:08 a way that every single thing necessary for eternal reconciliation with God would be not
00:05:14 just possible, not just available, but guaranteed. See, the Arminian believes that Christ paid.
00:05:23 This is the easiest way I can say it. Everyone's limiting the atonement. The Arminian, we'll just
00:05:28 call them the non-Calvinist, everybody else. The non-Calvinist believes that Jesus paid for
00:05:34 every single person's sin in the sense that he made salvation possible. The non-Calvinist
00:05:44 believes that Jesus, through his work at Calvary, that Jesus paid to make salvation possible for
00:05:51 all. The Calvinist believes that Jesus paid for actual salvation for many. I'll say that again.
00:05:59 The Calvinist believes Jesus paid for full salvation, real salvation, actual salvation for
00:06:05 many. The non-Calvinist believes Jesus paid for the possibility of salvation for all.
00:06:12 See, both are limiting the atonement.
00:06:29 Thank you.