The NXR Podcast - March 28, 2023


DAILY TRUTH - When Should A Church Excommunicate Someone？

Topics
church discipline
Hosted by
Joel Webbon Harrison Smith Antonio Griffith Dale Partridge Wewsley Todd Calvin Robinson
Mentioned
Joe Biden James Paul
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In this episode, Pastor Ken teaches about the principle of impenitence and why it is the chief characteristic of someone who should be removed from the church. He uses the case study of a man who was excommunicated for impenitent sin.

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00:00:42 Jesus said, man cannot live on bread alone, but from every word that proceeds from the mouth of
00:00:47 God. You're listening to Daily Truth. It's not just for impenitent sin. Impenitent meaning the
00:00:56 refusal to repent after being approached by the appropriate parties and going going having gone
00:01:01 thoroughly through all the steps of church discipline that's impenitence refusing to
00:01:06 repent however i would add this the westminster confession i like what it says in this regard
00:01:10 it is both impenitent and high-handed sin so we have you could say it like this we have the
00:01:19 principle in matthew 18 that jesus gives us the principle for church discipline and how to remove
00:01:24 someone but we have the example or the case study in first corinthians 5 from the apostle paul and
00:01:32 i do not believe that it is a mere coincidence that the principle that jesus gives includes
00:01:38 impenitence as the chief characteristic of the one who should be removed but in the case study
00:01:43 it is not only impenitence but it happens to be a man who has committed a sin that is unheard of
00:01:50 even among pagans in other words it's not this guy didn't invite my kids to his birthday party
00:01:57 and i went to my brother alone and i called him on his sin and he said he had the audacity to say
00:02:05 pastor that it wasn't a sin he said he actually said and this is going to blow your mind that i'm
00:02:11 emotional and too sensitive so now he's bringing false charges and i brought one or two
00:02:20 others with me. Now they happen to be the one or two other emotional and sensitive women in the
00:02:26 church, but I brought them. And we have now determined. And we'd like to bring it to the
00:02:33 church. This person's impenitent. No, it's not merely that this person has sinned and won't
00:02:40 acknowledge and repent of their sin. But it's also impenitence coupled with a degree of high-handed
00:02:49 sin. It's not just mere relational discord, which matters. That can become a rotten root of
00:02:58 bitterness that springs up and defiles many. Conflict, relational conflict in the church
00:03:04 can have harmful effects. But again, I say, I do not believe it is a mere coincidence
00:03:10 that when we have the principle of impenitence, but the case study of someone actually being
00:03:17 excommunicated that it is not merely in penitence but it is also a kind of sin and degree of sin
00:03:26 that is egregious egregious not subjective not hey he's quarrelsome
00:03:34 quarrelsome there is an objective definition it's a biblical word but there's a lot of debate about
00:03:42 how to define what it is to be quarrelsome. You go with the King James version, and quarrelsome means
00:03:47 an elder must not be a brawler, which means he might be really quarrelsome by someone's subjective
00:03:54 definition of quarrelsome, but so long as he hasn't punched anyone in the face, he could be a pastor.
00:04:02 There are some guys that hold that view. There are others who say he could be quarreling all the time
00:04:06 because Jesus was, and so was Paul.
00:04:09 But it means lover of quarrels.
00:04:11 And there's a difference between defending the truth
00:04:13 versus going and picking a fight.
00:04:17 And then there are others who say
00:04:18 he just shouldn't argue at all
00:04:20 because the Bible says he must have
00:04:21 a good reputation with outsiders.
00:04:23 And they subjectively interpret
00:04:25 good reputation with outsiders,
00:04:26 meaning that pagans and sinners who hate God
00:04:28 somehow like you.
00:04:33 There's a lot of difference.
00:04:36 of opinion. But you know what's nice about sins like adultery?
00:04:45 Like the man who took his father's wife? What's nice about that is that it's not subjective.
00:04:53 It's real clear. It's real clear. Okay, that merits removal. And again, for the final time,
00:05:03 I say, I do not believe it is a mere coincidence
00:05:06 that we're given the principle of church discipline
00:05:10 that includes impenitence
00:05:11 as the chief characteristic to look for.
00:05:14 But when we're given an example in case study
00:05:17 of a guy actually being removed by the church,
00:05:21 it's not that, well, his tone is off sometimes.
00:05:26 No, it's that he's really messing up.
00:05:32 I've already said it.
00:05:33 Don't need to say it again.
00:05:34 There's a difference in I don't like your tone
00:05:36 versus, dude, keep it in the family
00:05:40 isn't supposed to be played out like that.
00:05:45 Those are radically different.
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