00:23:54.160And it's true, because feminism is, if you want to go original, original, it's original sin.1.00
00:24:02.460It's Eve, and we'll have to talk about Lilith some, fake apocryphal Lilith, but it's at least Eve and Adam mutually agreeing to swap roles.
00:24:11.860but historically in the anglo west or whatever in western civilization it's 1848 and i've been in
00:24:22.200squabbles with elderly relatives who you know were 90 or 100 saying i i could have been your boss
00:24:29.560because i remember talking once about my my tyrannical femme boss when i was a land man i
00:24:35.440was like i have a land man boss i don't even know what to call it was she a land man or a land woman
00:24:40.240man and you know my my relative was like i could i could have been your good boss so i was like
00:24:46.280no you're you're a woman i i don't want that no man wants it it's so mortifying and and what we
00:24:53.400have en masse in society is a ritual humiliation ritual i mean a ceremonial ritual of humiliation0.71
00:25:02.280where we go to work and we're we're we're told to act in a way that befits women we're told to
00:25:07.960say things that make women feel good about themselves you guys know the the red pill content
00:25:12.920gets that much right but um i i think once people get their mind around that point that you're
00:25:20.080you're highlighting there joel that conservatives normies all condemn women going in the men's
00:25:28.380bathroom or men going in the women's bathroom or men wearing a woman's dress but that's those
00:25:32.480are just behaviors that are illicit, and they should be illicit. But why... We had a segment
00:25:38.920called Diapergate with this woman, all the way living in the United Arab Emirates, who set0.53
00:25:45.700Catholic Twitter on fire, right-of-shoes converting, by saying, why are all these men changing diapers?0.84
00:25:50.740We call it Diapergate. And good trad Catholics, Latin mass Catholics, jumped all over her case.0.62
00:25:58.500They jumped all over her case. I was the only guy I knew that came to her aid. I was like,
00:49:53.380and um we we had to break with them because a month in they said this is you know we had to
00:50:00.820break with them and i'll leave it there but it's a controversial work ask your husband and so when
00:50:08.380she had published it they're like we want to use your name she's like i want to go mrs timothy j
00:50:12.420gordon and they're like we have to force you to use your name so once we started self-publishing
00:50:16.900it after we broke with uh tan books a based catholic publisher by most measures steph's like
00:50:26.040okay well at least cool now i can now i can go with my real name mrs timothy i love that let's
00:50:31.860let's talk about that real quick um you know because you're saying we had to break with this
00:50:35.600catholic publication and you know one of the first things uh that you and i were talking about when
00:50:40.160you you know right when you walked into the studio this morning was uh i was like man dude you know
00:50:45.300watching that documentary i know you know a ton of catholics are are nominal just across the board
00:50:49.560and then you know especially on this issue a ton of them would take a much more liberal feminist0.99
00:50:53.260position um but the fact that there's at least some out there that have it you know and so
00:50:58.580anyways we were going back and forth and i was saying man i feel like um i feel like protestants
00:51:03.280i was saying this i feel like protestants are the worst on feminism you're like i feel like
00:51:07.460catholics are the worst and so you know and we both have that sense because we're because we're0.98
00:51:12.540each in our own camp like you're you know you're probably i would imagine like for every engagement1.00
00:51:18.680and interaction you have with a protestant you probably have 10 with catholics of course and
00:51:23.560and vice versa uh but for me i'm like you know protestants have not held the line on on this
00:51:28.940issue at all i mean even even the best ones are like yeah we're you know we're patriarchy they
00:51:35.200don't even i can't even say that um the average conservative protestant won't even use the word
00:51:41.700patriarchy because they think it's gross they think it's icky so they'll say we're complementarian
00:51:46.060which the the whole idea just for the record with complementarianism is aside from the physical0.77
00:51:51.280distinctions in design right like women having breasts and hips and these you know and men you
00:51:56.160know having broader shoulders aside from the physical distinctions between the sexes um the
00:52:01.680the complementarian what they're essentially asserting is that there is uh in the realm of
00:52:07.400design there is a distinction in the physical that's it only in the physical but aside from
00:52:13.720that in every other regard it's two individuals who complement one another predominantly in the
00:52:20.360realm of role so if you think like the two main headlines is role and design they would say well
00:52:27.020the roles are distinct in order to complement one another but the design is mostly the same
00:52:33.480the only distinction being in a subcategory of the design category physical but but they wouldn't
00:52:40.020really speak to any distinction in the realm of design in terms of the soul or in terms of
00:52:46.620emotional certainly not mental they would not you know point to studies of like hey well it's just
00:52:53.460because you know men are stronger and that's not why they win you know at tennis or that's why they
00:52:56.980win you know basketball um they they will uh totally avoid is like okay but but um how much
00:53:04.160physical strength does it take to move a bishop across the board and how come men always win with
00:53:09.240that too oh there's a mental distinction at every single level like i would argue and i know you
00:53:14.960agree with this but one of the reasons that saint paul cites for um the husband being the head and
00:53:21.780the woman not, is not just because of physical strength or these kinds of things, but he roots
00:53:28.180it in the order of creation. Man was formed first, and woman was formed from man and for man.
00:53:33.800He also roots it not only the order of creation, but the order of the fall. Woman fell first,0.98
00:53:38.960all right? And then Adam followed his wife into this fall, but then also not just the order of
00:53:43.440the fall, but the manner of the fall, which gets into design. The woman was deceived and became,
00:53:48.960And you read all the authors with inquisitim of antiquity, and they all, without blushing or without even equivocation, they just plainly say, and they're not being degrading or rude about it, it's just they state it as a theological fact that, oh, yeah, well, one of the reasons that women aren't called to lead, not only in the realm of the church or the home, but even the civil sphere and the public square, is because women are more susceptible to being deceived than men.0.64
00:54:12.780Jerome, Ambrose, Augustine, Chrysostom all make this point very explicitly that, I mean,
00:54:27.840No, of course, because they're smart guys.
00:54:31.300I mean, like, I think Chrysostom goes so far as to say, look, man was sort of semi-deceived,
00:54:37.160a deception within a deception by his wife, who's a human being.
00:54:41.720his but eve was deceived by a beast you know he's and he's kind of having some fun with it so
00:54:47.960there is no patristic father that doesn't that doesn't think that think that yeah and i i tend
00:54:54.360to be in the position in terms of adam i think that the um the the primary sin was um less of
00:55:00.320deception and more of uh idolatry i think that ultimately what adam and i think the parallel
00:55:05.600You know, in Christ, as the second Adam, you have the first Adam, he's actually formed in the wilderness, but immediately, as far as we can tell, immediately placed into a garden context, a place of plenty, a place of protection, and all these things.
00:55:27.720And he starts, he's able to start his life, he doesn't start as a baby, he starts as a full-grown, mature man.
00:55:33.700He's created in a state of maturity and, you know, in a state of integrity or innocence.
00:55:40.500And there's one adversary, you know, the serpent, you know, that creeps into the garden.
00:55:45.180But in the case of Adam, it's like the whole thing is set in his favor.
00:55:54.360And the serpent is at an immense disadvantage.
00:55:58.220And when you think of like, when you parallel Adam in a garden, Christ in the wilderness,
00:56:02.320thinking of his three temptations. Adam, a place of plenty. Christ, a place of scarcity. Adam,
00:56:08.020well, all his victuals and provisions, you know, he's full. Like Christ, you know, fasting, you
00:56:13.260know, for 40 days and 40 nights. Adam, having to resist sin, not through infancy or through
00:56:18.880childhood, but being able to begin as a fully mature man. Christ, having to make it through
00:56:25.440the terrible twos, you know, as sinless, you know, and, you know, all these different parallels.
00:56:30.440But then when it comes to Adam, Eve being deceived, you know, my thought is what Adam should have done, one, he should have been guarding and keeping, guarding, keeping the garden from the adversary, from the serpent.
00:56:46.260but had the serpent snuck in and it wasn't a manner of his lack of watchfulness it was more
00:56:52.620in the category of his finitude rather than fallenness it's like the serpent just got in
00:56:56.600it wasn't his fault it wasn't because he was abdicating his duties but still came in and
00:57:02.400deceived his wife and Adam you know had he had an alibi you know he didn't it wasn't a moral
00:57:08.120failure he was down you know gathering water or something like that even if that was the case
00:57:12.520what Adam should have done the very moment that he realized what happened is he should have gone
00:57:17.620and approached the Lord in the cool of the day when God would walk with them, this theophany or
00:57:21.920Christophany, however you view that, and he should have approached God and said, God, something
00:57:28.140terrible has happened. My wife has broken your commandment, and I know that she should surely
00:57:32.720die. That's what you promised. The day you eat of it, you shall surely die. But I, as the Christ,0.97
00:57:37.740he shows i i would is there any way that i could die in her place and and most of the the guys you
00:57:44.800know church fathers that that i've read on this subject they say that adam's primary sin rather
00:57:50.040than being deception was um it was idolatry he knew um he was not deceived he he sinned with
00:57:56.440his eyes wide open he knew what happened he knew that it was wrong he knew that it meant death
00:58:01.400and he essentially said i'd rather die with my wife than live with the lord right he loved so
00:58:06.820So he actually, it is this sacrificial love, but it's an idolatrous love that he exalted
00:58:13.200Eve above the Lord in that moment, and that that was the fatal flaw.
00:58:19.260Father Chad makes a similar point in the film, actually.
00:58:33.340Which is idolatry, and we still see that.
00:58:35.740that's what white knights are yeah that's what it is to be you know like you know excuse the
00:58:41.420language but completely cupped yeah to be long housed it is to say like i'd rather like so many
00:58:46.640men are my point is so many men like adam also are sinning with their eyes wide open many many
00:58:51.840young modern women really are deceived they really are they're still culpable i'm not saying that
00:58:56.960deception means there's no moral culpability they're responsible for being deceived but so
00:59:02.000many men are actually not deceived i i i see men all the time and interact with them and you know
00:59:07.380behind the scenes they won't admit it publicly but they're like yeah i know joan yeah i know but
00:59:11.760what are we gonna do you know and like i it's my wife or you know it's my daughter or you know it's
00:59:17.820it's whatever and and essentially what they're saying is that the same thing that adam you know
00:59:22.520without without words but but what adam conveyed i think what adam would have said um i'd rather
00:59:28.240I'd rather go down with the ship. I'd rather die with her than live with God.
00:59:32.660That's reflected and best expressed by happy wife, happy life. Men are saying with their
00:59:37.760eyes wide open, yeah, I know that if you put the second in charge, my helpmeet, which is what a0.72
00:59:45.620woman really is, is a helpmeet. She's not the main character. If I tell her she's the main character1.00
00:59:49.820along with society and I put her in charge, she will immediately become a tyrant. And I've done
00:59:55.180so but i'm going to keep her happy and just have a it's like a perverse sacrificial love just the
01:00:02.060way you're describing joel i'll just have a a rotten life and she'll be yelling at me all the
01:00:07.500time and i'll feel bad about myself it'll lower my testosterone it's not ultimately good but
01:00:12.480there will be a kind of happiness because there will be this um uneasy peace around the household
01:00:17.300which is what 98 99 percent of households are running with and i think too at at the base of
01:00:23.360it is also i'll shall at least have sex with me sometimes i can hold the line right and i'm
01:00:28.320getting nothing at least where i'm at right now it's once or twice a month and literally it's like0.87
01:00:32.960it's it's uh sexual just not perversion but a type of sexual appetite that it's like i can't
01:00:39.420say no to this and so because i can't say no to this i can't endanger this thing that i so
01:00:43.480desperately long for that's right i refuse to lay down the law in my house and that's and most of
01:00:48.700them they would probably admit that they'd be like if i'm honest here's why i won't lay down0.93
01:00:51.900the law yeah it's because of this versus the deception of women i mean so many of them they
01:00:56.180think they're right like you give them the truth saying they'd be like i've been the victim my whole0.58
01:01:00.740life i truly believe it whereas men it's like yeah i'm a little bit of a simp right uh real quick
01:01:06.520just one more time going back to the the adam and the second adam christ parallel um i i think that
01:01:12.340there's there's even a correlation and this is you know implicit and so i i admit that i'm reading
01:01:17.740into the text some but i don't think that it's contradictory but there's something you know
01:01:21.880adam saying you know essentially saying i'd rather uh die with her uh than live with god
01:01:27.640um and christ one of the temptations in the wilderness is you know that satan brings him up
01:01:33.840to a high hill and shows him and i think this was probably more than just physical but a vision
01:01:39.200shows him all the kingdoms of the earth and says i'll give them to you you know if you'll commit
01:01:44.760idolatry, if you'll bow down and worship me. And it's not just idolatry of him worshiping
01:01:50.840Satan, right? Substituting Satan for the Father. But in some sense, yes, it speaks to rule and
01:01:58.840reign, authority, like I'll give these kingdoms to you, you will be their king, you'll rule over
01:02:03.800them. But there's also a sense in which like Jesus came not to condemn the world, but in order that
01:02:08.520the world might be saved through him, 1 John 3, 17, I'll give the kingdoms of the world and all
01:02:13.660their subjects the peoples of the world and jesus did come he came for the people of the world to
01:02:19.040ransom them behold uh the lamb of god who you know who um who uh is slain for uh for the world
01:02:26.160and so jesus is coming for the peoples of the world and it's almost like satan saying i'll give
01:02:30.200you that the very thing you came for i'll give it to you um but there's there's just there's another
01:02:34.800path and and this is actually an easier path now the path is that you simply have to bow down and
01:02:40.540worship me. It's an idolatrous path. But I will give you the people. And it's almost like Jesus
01:02:45.600is posed with the same quandary, the same dichotomy that Adam was in the garden. I can die with her
01:02:52.660or I can live with God. You know, die with her or live without her. Jesus is, by committing0.99
01:03:00.760idolatry, if he had, of course he didn't, bowing down and worshiping Satan, it's like, you'll get
01:03:05.920the peoples of the earth. You'll get the kingdoms of the earth. You'll get to live with them.
01:03:09.260but Jesus the difference is Adam is thinking I can either I can either die with her or live
01:03:15.600without her the third option the one that Jesus takes is instead of I can die with the kingdoms
01:03:21.680of the world my people will all ultimately perish because of idolatry apart from the Lord
01:03:26.000I can either die with her my bride or live without her Jesus takes the option or instead of dying
01:03:32.760with her I could die for her and that's like that's that's the gospel the gospel uh avenue
01:03:39.900that that Adam either didn't see or didn't uh didn't have faith to believe that that would
01:03:45.700have been possible and so it's and that's I think that's where we are today in many ways it's like
01:03:50.840there's so many men the the you know the man with his tail between his legs who is not deceived he
01:03:56.340sees these things with his eyes wide open he's opted for uh but I love her and we're not advocating
01:04:02.180like we're not see the red pill is um yeah the problem that's the problem is that you love her
01:04:07.100so just stop loving her yeah hate women yeah right use women um and we're saying no no no that's not
01:04:12.560an option um and so you have the red pill that says you know um the problem is that you love her0.60
01:04:17.860stop it stop loving her and then you have the feminist men who many of them are not deceived
01:04:22.840their eyes are wide open i love her so therefore i have to die with her but the third option for
01:04:28.740the true patriarch the christian patriarch is um i'm not going to stop loving her and i'm not going
01:04:34.920to in loving her die with her in loving her i'll die for her and part of that what that means that
01:04:41.700that sacrificial death is um i'm going to love her at the cost of her not loving me at the cost of
01:04:50.240she may hate me she may uh resent me she may revile me because she's deceived and under the
01:04:57.260spell of the dragon she may not uh but i'm going to love her i'm going to speak the truth i'm not
01:05:02.680going uh to simp uh for her i'm not going to bow down to her um i'm going to love so i'm not going
01:05:10.040to in love for her die with her but i'm also not going to stop loving her in love for her i will
01:05:15.680uh i'm not going to die with her i'm going to die for her but i won't that's the gospel picture
01:05:19.400That is, and I'm 100% with you, but that's the heuristic that men need to check at the door.
01:05:29.000The heuristic is I need to be willing to jeopardize this feeling that I have, whether it's sexual relations or peaceability around the homestead, for the first month or two or three when they're getting the power back.
01:05:47.000because we also, my wife and I work as a kind of ministry
01:07:00.820And my wife's book points this out, Ask Your Husband.0.99
01:07:06.320It's unusual, even more unusual for a woman to cheat on a man0.98
01:07:09.440than a man on a woman, a more unnatural vice.1.00
01:07:12.760but what women always do when they cheat is they have a simpy long-housed husband and it's one1.00
01:07:20.800that always tells them yes in the moment they want to be given controls over the purse strings or be
01:07:27.460be invited to spend on whatever they want but what that does to their sexual attraction to not be1.00
01:07:33.340told no which is actually a natural aphrodisiac when we're considering what a woman's nature is
01:07:38.780she she's attracted to a man that will tell her now is eventually she wants to find and she'll go
01:07:44.080outside in some cases the marriage to find what she's sexually attracted to which is a delimiting0.99
01:07:50.960limit on her sovereignty her sovereignty um that's why women are attracted to bad boys or men that
01:07:58.140will be a little bit mean to them i'm not suggesting that husbands should actually be
01:08:02.860mean to their wives, but they should be delimiters. And so the whole point is just to put the cap on
01:08:09.140there is a kind of happily ever after. If men choose to take the reins back, the reins of
01:08:17.240power, it might be rough for a month or up to six months. But if a man really wants to do it,
01:08:24.260he can get control of his marriage and your wife will be more sexually attracted to you once you
01:08:29.760do that. That's what we tell the red pill all the time. Red pill says this doesn't work, and we're0.89
01:08:34.080like, you're claiming that nature doesn't work? I thought you guys are naturalists, man. I thought
01:08:39.240you're like, you know, Bronze Age pervert or whatever, adjacent. We're the true naturalists,
01:08:45.840the Christians, in this sense, men and women, intersexuality, and I think we have to reclaim
01:08:50.660that boldly. Well said. And what role do you think other women, you think about the context of
01:08:56.500marriage and you know a wife might have friends who are in her ear giving her sort of advice and
01:09:01.340saying hey no actually this is how your husband should should behave like what's your perspective
01:09:05.680on what role that actually has and sort of women feeding into this themselves and in their friend
01:09:10.520group into this sort of uh this feminist mentality and sort of actually trying to go against their1.00
01:09:16.340natural as you put it their natural cravings and sort of natural desire within a relationship1.00
01:09:21.360It depends on temperaments, female, you know, women married friend groups, because it's such an age of toxic females, unless your wife is really one of those ones who she's been red, red pilled in a Christian way, patriarchy pilled, and she can really preponderate as a kind of leader or the loudest voice in the friend group, then it's going to be toxic and you're going to have to drown it out.0.94
01:09:45.300If she's having to hear from the rank-and-file, then we know what the rank-and-file is.0.53
01:10:11.900That's why I'm saying, unless you have a really strong patriarchal woman, patriarchal in the sense that she loves her husband and she realizes what she is, a helpmeet in her essence, in her nature, as the head of the group of women, this is why I think an older woman, maybe with younger women, is biblical, as it expressly is in the Pauline passages.
01:10:37.020it might be hard to have a female friend group that heads in a direction of travel toward patriarchy
01:10:45.320if they're all peers, because there's just going to be so much peer pressure.1.00
01:10:50.000They're the great conformers, females, right?0.92
01:10:52.620And they're going to go with where the status quo is.
01:10:55.260And right now, the status quo is being changed by guys like us four, but it's not changed yet.
01:11:01.840And so, you know, that's the hedgy language I would use for female friend groups.0.98
01:11:06.680Yeah, I've said that several times that women are NPCs and not just like non-player character that they, you know, have no, no, you know, rationale or ability to think.1.00
01:11:19.700But NPC naturally pursuing consensus. Right. You know, and so like when you think like, what would it take for the average woman to change?1.00
01:11:28.800It actually doesn't require going and changing individual hearts and minds one at a time.
01:11:34.280Now, we need to do that hard work on the ground with the individual women that God has entrusted to us, our wives, our daughters, so on and so forth.
01:11:43.100But in terms of culturally, in the macro, you don't have to persuade all the women, you know, to agree to repeal the 19th Amendment, you know, or to, you know, to leave the workforce and go back home.
01:11:56.960you know um what all you have to do is is you have to uh to win uh optically um the the battle1.00
01:12:04.960at the top level um and and women will like shockingly fast will just fall in line the1.00
01:12:12.320moment that it begins to seem as though like the momentum is on this side you know is the moment
01:12:17.040that there seems to be critical mass the moment that like then women will be like oh yeah i believe
01:12:21.700that i've always believed that yeah that's just who they are so that so but you know right now1.00
01:12:27.660because feminism reigns the day uh sadly uh you have that natural instinct of women naturally1.00
01:12:33.660pursuing consensus working in the wrong misordered direction working against us um but not just with
01:12:39.320a friend group the thing that i i wanted to ask and bring up briefly is um especially in regards
01:12:44.840to their family one of the most difficult things that um as i'm counseling you know uh young
01:12:51.700married couples and that i've dealt with you know personally in my own experience is um you know
01:12:58.420the command to honor thy father and mother um and coupling that with uh just the statistical reality
01:13:05.520that uh the average woman even if she is persuaded and seeks to be um a patriarchal woman uh submitting
01:13:13.160and obeying her husband her own parents will be actively seeking in many cases to dissuade her
01:13:19.240her sisters her brothers her so she's gonna have all her family and it's not gonna be like uh we
01:13:25.940love Lilith you know and no it's no it's gonna be we're concerned for you we love you and you know
01:13:32.920you used to think this way and there were certain things about you that uh that we miss I remember
01:13:37.880when you're a little girl you know you always wanted to be a veterinarian you know and I hate
01:13:42.040to see it's it's your who you are is being eroded and erased and and i'm concerned for you i feel
01:13:50.180like you're you're losing yourself like that's the language that's the frame that will be presented
01:13:55.720and not just by friends um it'll be presented by parents it'll be presented by fathers it'll be
01:14:01.520presented by sisters um and that's so tragic what do you how do you counsel um individuals in that
01:14:10.020instance i'm so glad you brought that up because it's such a shrewd disclaimer don't expect it to
01:14:16.300be lilith worshiping jewish feminists um yeah women who are i mean it will be but it won't
01:14:23.000be said out loud that's behind the scenes that's wizard of oz stuff but now that there are we
01:14:28.200didn't really get to this historically that the historical morphology is now there are christian1.00
01:14:33.940feminists everywhere. The host is infected, been infected by the parasite. And so now Christianity1.00
01:14:41.420just has all these feminists that don't even bother to call themselves feminists. And a lot0.97
01:14:46.000of them are conservative right-wing dads who think that they want powerful women to go to college
01:14:51.960and be powerful conservative voices for Jesus. So it's really interesting. When I was theology
01:15:01.380department chairman, eventually got fired in the crazy summer of BLM for a bunch of tweets
01:28:16.620I want you to wear a red dress every day.
01:28:18.680and and that was that was the the case study and reformed minister after reformed minister
01:28:25.660after reformed minister who pride themselves in being complementarian and we would never have a
01:28:32.360woman you know as an elder um all came out saying a husband does not have that authority that is
01:28:38.160abusive a wife in that situation you know she should go and and um she should actually run
01:28:44.040and tell on her husband to the to the elders of the church wow um and and and i'm and i'm just
01:28:49.840watching that and i'm thinking and it grieves me deeply grieves me i'm watching that and thinking
01:28:55.020um there i i don't know any protestant tradition today i do historically but today uh that would
01:29:06.160um that would have supported you in this film if like and not just because of the catholic stuff
01:29:11.260Like if you had just produced this as a broader film and didn't really make it particularly Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant, I don't think you would have gotten any support from anyone but us.
01:29:25.580Well, this goes back to the politeness contest we were having in the kitchen here when I was like, I thought Protestants were better on this, and you were like, I thought Catholics were better on it.
01:29:35.100I was just appreciative for the... We had an Orthodox Jay Dyer in, and we used Rachel Wilson's0.61
01:29:42.960book. She's an Orthodox scholar, and I'm friends with Andrew and Rachel as well. But I'm appreciative
01:29:48.040deeply to Father Chad, the exorcist, because you'll remember that one section in the film when he
01:29:54.820runs through side-by-side Father Mike Schmitz, huge, huge podcast, Bible in a Year, and Father
01:30:02.760mike schmitz runs through this circular square called mutual submission joel that i remember
01:30:09.060that and father chad was like we had like a red x and father chad's like this is absurd here's why
01:30:14.220then he went through another dimension of what father mike at ascension presents humongous
01:30:19.080ministry was just saying false words false gospel and he said nope here's why that's wrong
01:30:24.000um so we just appreciated anyone any christian that's willing to partner with us on this to
01:30:30.840speak the truth to the emperor who's where who's nude claiming to be wearing new clothes and of
01:30:36.540course a red dress if his husband likes it and it's it's modest then go for it or i would say
01:30:41.460this if it's somewhat immodest but it's inside the house right you know that's another thing
01:30:46.940that's um i mean what guys out there wouldn't if it would help the the marital act along wouldn't
01:30:54.820wear a certain outfit for their wives this isn't even i'm not even i'm not an egalitarian i don't
01:30:59.920believe in egalitarianism, but most guys would be willing to do this. Goodly women, godly women
01:31:05.000are like, yeah, just help me pick out dresses. It's a fun Christmas tradition I have for my0.94
01:31:11.520wife is shopping for clothes. She loves the dresses I pick out for her. So it's really a shame that
01:31:18.460there aren't more Christians, Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants. I was just talking to Andrew Wilson
01:31:25.400in his house last night about how few Orthodox are willing to join them. I thought they were0.74
01:31:30.100better than Catholics, too, because I think we're the worst. We're each pointing inwardly.1.00
01:31:35.560But Christendom has just been overrun with feminism. And, you know, what about the men,0.84
01:31:41.440though, as Andrew calls it? What about the men? Well, you didn't even say what men are doing
01:31:45.300wrong here. Or, yeah, should men really tell their wives what they're attracted to? Yes.0.98
01:31:52.360Yes. Another thing we got heavy pressure to take out of the film that, again, thank you to
01:31:56.940CandaceOwens.com for not pressuring us to. I'd rather have the disclaimer than pressure
01:32:02.200is to say that wives as well as husbands should aim to be thin. That was a big one that we weren't1.00
01:32:08.700expecting. I heard that little word there as I was playing. I was like, oh, snap. That was the main
01:32:12.920one. That was great. We were like, look, I mean, I've gained some Christmas pounds myself. A lot
01:32:17.460of people have this time of the year, but everyone, man and woman alike, I think especially women,
01:32:22.360are aiming this time of the year to shave those off.
01:32:25.620And body positivity is something we didn't talk about today,
01:32:28.400but it's really, really, really, really, really diabolic and evil.
01:32:32.600And so just anyone that watched this film and said,
01:32:35.180yeah, full stop, the producer and the director of this thing,
01:41:06.660If you want to see where these two parallel lines can be bent somewhere in eternity to meet justice and mercy around the household economy, I would say they can insofar as have your wife, because you're the master of ceremonies around your house as the man, have your wife tell you what's your least favorite chore.1.00
01:41:30.960This is what I did with Steph, and she's an amazing cleaner.0.99
01:42:44.960The real answer is that prudential judgment or phronesis in the Greek is what you wield as a sword and as a shield, and so you can be as stringent or as lenient as you want to be.
01:42:59.640I would just say your wife's probably your favorite person on earth, and to maximize time, you know, I'm not a slave driver, but you're not going to see me doing the dishes either way.
01:43:12.140Also, that's why you have a lot of kids, so you can make them do children.
01:47:50.360And I think there's, you know, there's a progression of, you know, like, in my view, there's a progression of how you get to certain, you know, later stages.
01:47:58.420But right now, it seems like there's really a global, you know, worldwide return to nationalism.
01:53:15.980It was Maryland that was Catholic, right?
01:53:18.000None of them were confessionally Catholic.
01:53:20.160Nine of the 13 were, there were just nine sects of Christianity, Protestant Christians.
01:53:26.880Maryland was almost close enough to be one, but only four of the states after the First Amendment were not creedally, confessionally one.
01:53:34.380So have one, each state have its official establishment of religion, which the First Amendment actually guaranteed the right of until 1947.
01:53:43.180and um then yeah be united by at the national level that's that's been my thought is national
01:53:49.320level would not be confessional but rather would be creedal yeah and so it would be you know
01:53:52.940apostles creed nicene creed things that both protestants and orthodox and catholics can all
01:53:58.060agree on i love it you don't have a conflict from the national level to the state level
01:54:01.760and then states could be more particular and you would have you know you would have states that
01:54:05.980were catholic you'd have um i don't know if the eo guys could even get one state i don't know if
01:54:40.660don't get fired hide your power levels yeah i mean at this point the way that hr infiltrated as
01:54:48.740the um sword and the shield of of feminism in the workplace so it's really really hard at this point
01:54:58.120until we get females out of the workplace more predominantly so basically keep your job and0.98
01:55:06.780And don't do anything that's undignified, but there's really no benefit in pretending that HR is not buying for females and that the workplace is not gynecratic because like all the rest of the public spaces in America, it's completely gynecratic.0.99
01:55:26.080So you have to cover your six first.1.00
01:56:51.360But I would say that get your home in order.
01:56:54.880Don't try to persuade your business, but rather try to start a business.0.98
01:56:58.840And this glorious, godly woman who did have some elements of, you know, she was industrious, but she's industrious working for her husband.0.99
01:57:11.000Her husband is her boss, and she's working underneath.
01:57:14.560So you can bring your wife and children into the family business, you know, and at different, you know, capacities that are fitting domestic feminine role and the role of children and so on and so forth.0.78
01:57:26.820So rather than convincing your job to become patriarchal, make your home patriarchal and bring your job to home if you can.
01:57:34.020Yeah, and I'll just speak to this because I just recently had come from this context not that long ago.0.84
01:57:38.780And I would say, just to get really practical, too, when you're in that context surrounded by women, there are all sorts of little compromises you can avoid making, whether it's the passive aggressiveness and the gossip and those conversations that just naturally happen in that sort of office context.0.97