The NXR Podcast - NXR Livestream - A Godly Woman Wears What Her Husband Wants W⧸Timothy Gordon @rulesforretrogrades

00:00:00.000 So we've answered the question, what is a woman, right?

00:00:04.160 Matt Walsh did his documentary. 0.71

00:00:05.680 It's ridiculous that something like that even had to be done,

00:00:08.460 but he did a good job.

00:00:09.580 We're grateful for that work.

00:00:10.760 The answer to that question is simple. 0.94

00:00:12.280 What is a woman? 1.00

00:00:13.440 It's an adult female human being. 1.00

00:00:15.620 All of humanity has known this forever until people decided to be retarded, 1.00

00:00:20.580 and not just retarded, but ultimately wicked. 1.00

00:00:22.560 It's absolutely a deceitful suppression of the truth. 0.96

00:00:26.660 Romans chapter 1, suppressing the truth and deeds of unrighteousness.

00:00:30.620 And so something like that actually became merited.

00:00:33.560 It became needed to do a documentary, What is a Woman?, to thwart off the ridiculousness

00:00:40.520 and the deceit of our time.

00:00:42.680 But there's a deeper question that is burning, that must be answered, not merely what is

00:00:47.800 a woman, but what a woman is.

00:00:50.260 That's the deeper question. 0.99

00:00:51.360 Or to pose it a different way, you could say, What is a woman? 1.00

00:00:53.500 the other question what is a woman for or why is a woman why is a woman why does she exist how did

00:01:02.520 God make her what is her purpose and so there's a new documentary that is fantastic my wife and I

00:01:08.940 we actually watched it last night and it's not just good because I agree with it theologically

00:01:13.980 and these things from the scripture it was incredibly well produced I've seen several

00:01:19.300 documentaries and this would be up there. I don't want to be exaggerated. I don't want to use

00:01:24.720 hyperbole. I would say easily in the top five in terms of just production value of documentaries

00:01:30.520 I've ever seen. Really, really well done. My wife was tearing up. Now, that's not saying a whole lot

00:01:38.560 because she is, after all, a woman. And so she was getting teary eyed at some of the, you know,

00:01:43.740 the touchy points of, you know, romance and love between a husband and his wife. But it was a

00:01:48.960 phenomenal documentary and i have to admit as a protestant i kept watching it and there was a

00:01:53.520 sense in which i i was grieving uh because there were certain lines throughout the film uh that i

00:02:00.200 thought i'm the only protestant i know who would be willing to say this maybe maybe one or two others

00:02:06.820 um they they address things not just um well a wife submits to the spiritual headship of her

00:02:13.260 husband but in you know that's in theory in practice what does that look like well it means

00:02:17.160 over the course of a 50-year marriage that, you know, anytime they disagree, they have to go and

00:02:22.040 talk to their pastors first, you know, and if their pastors are a direct, you know, tie, you know,

00:02:26.680 they have four elders and two are on one side and two are on the other, then they have to sit and

00:02:30.680 pray and fast, and if they ever get to a point where, you know, the voice of God or the voice

00:02:35.100 of the elders or this, that, and the other is just a perfect split 50-50, then instead of flipping a

00:02:41.100 coin, then, you know, the complementarian, you know, headship of the husband comes into play.

00:02:46.260 in other words what is the headship of a husband what does it mean absolutely nothing that's how

00:02:52.540 a lot of guys who salute they give you know they tip the hat to male headship federal headship

00:02:59.760 that's how a lot of them at the end of the day that's what they actually believe it means

00:03:04.720 nothing it's theoretical it's the husband has no real tangible authority in practice but this

00:03:11.980 documentary did not toe that line. This documentary without apology, without being ashamed, but also

00:03:19.120 without being cruel or capricious, but in beautiful language from the scripture and from testimonies

00:03:24.800 of both men and women pointed towards and exemplified, esteemed the beauty of male headship

00:03:32.080 and womanly domestic feminine submission. They use the word multiple times, and I was shocked,

00:03:40.300 pleasantly shocked but they used the word did not shy away from it obey he said obey she obeys

00:03:46.880 her husband they even quoted uh certain church fathers and saying that um we know that when it

00:03:52.840 comes to all human authority human authorities can err human authorities are not infallible

00:03:58.300 so whether it's a civil father over citizens or whether it's you know father and mother over

00:04:03.180 children or whether it's ecclesiastical fathers bishops pastors you know in the realm of the church

00:04:08.640 we know that no matter who we are, a wife to her husband or children to their parents or citizens

00:04:14.160 to civil fathers or congregants to church leaders, we know that any time a human authority commands

00:04:21.440 that which God forbids or forbids that which God commands, then we are not called to submit or

00:04:26.820 obey. But one of the lines in this documentary was quoting, it was phenomenal, it said,

00:04:32.920 in all things deferential or prudential all things deferential or prudential because the

00:04:39.040 the bottom line is there are many things in the scripture we're not biblicist we love the bible

00:04:44.460 and it is the supreme authority but we're not biblicist meaning um i don't have to have chapter

00:04:49.080 and verse in the new testament uh to uh to dissuade me from drinking uh water out of the

00:04:56.200 toilet i can use prudence and reason and natural law and come to these conclusions knowing that

00:05:02.400 there is no contradiction with the scripture whatsoever. And the reality is between husband

00:05:07.160 and wife in the context of marriage, there are a million daily decisions happening on a moment

00:05:13.060 to moment basis where there's not a chapter and verse. It's not something that God explicitly

00:05:18.120 commands or explicitly forbids, right? Like what are we going to make for dinner tonight?

00:05:23.360 What are we going to do for family day on Saturday? Are we going to go to this place or that place?

00:05:27.880 the bible doesn't give a clear command one way or the other so who decides and if the husband's

00:05:33.140 authority it's only those things which are chapter and verse in a biblicist wooden framework

00:05:38.260 explicitly commanded by god or explicitly forbidden by god then what you're really saying at the end

00:05:42.900 of the day is that the the husband actually has no authority it's just god has authority

00:05:47.400 through his word only and it's equally binding on both and so there's actually there's no human

00:05:53.020 leadership in the home whatsoever. We don't believe that. So in those matters which are not

00:05:58.360 expressly forbidden by God or commanded by God, but areas of deference and prudence, the husband has

00:06:05.100 full, total authority. He must love his wife as Christ loves the church. He should not lord it

00:06:11.660 over her in an abusive manner, but he is a lowercase l lord. Sarah called her husband Abraham

00:06:18.080 Lord, and God esteems this and honors this. And you do well, wives, here today, Christian wives,

00:06:24.160 if you honor the mothers of the faith, those great women of old, also showing deference to

00:06:31.160 your husband. So this documentary, it honestly blew my mind. I was shocked that in the year of

00:06:36.900 our Lord, pleasantly shocked, in the year of our Lord, 2026, that someone would have the guts, 0.98

00:06:43.640 the grit to say wives should obey their husbands in everything, which is literally just a quote 0.93

00:06:50.560 from Scripture. The Bible literally says in everything, but someone to have the guts to 0.62

00:06:54.660 actually say that and to frame it in a way that was God-glorifying, not degrading towards women

00:07:02.300 whatsoever, beautiful. It was really, really well done. So we have the privilege today

00:07:09.540 to have Timothy Gordon, who was instrumental in this documentary and helping direct it and those

00:07:15.920 kinds of things with high production. He's also one of the characters in the film. His wife is

00:07:20.480 one of the characters in the film, and he is with us in-house, in the studio, in the flesh,

00:07:26.180 and that's what we're going to be talking about in today's episode of NXR Live.

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00:10:16.140 all right here we are timothy gordon live in the studio we're honored to have you with us

00:10:35.200 why what what possessed you what what gave you the goal the unmitigated audacity to produce

00:10:42.640 a film like this? Well, I would say it's being a man who has to go out into society. You're

00:10:50.360 accosted everywhere at every moment by women, women who are out of control. And the movie, 1.00

00:10:58.900 What a Woman Is, is the translation of my book, The Case for Patriarchy. And when I announced that

00:11:05.800 I was writing this book in the Catholic world. It was summer of 2019, and I went on Matt Fradd's

00:11:13.300 show, and I said, look, I'm writing this book. Matt Fradd was excited to have me out. It was an

00:11:19.440 in-person meeting, and I just said, women are out of control. You know what I mean? 1.00

00:11:24.460 And Matt, who's a good guy and an honest observer, was like, no, no, I don't. And that shocked me.

00:11:31.760 I was going to say, as soon as you said Matt Fradd, I thought, I don't think that he would agree with us.

00:11:38.220 Yeah.

00:11:39.080 Simply by virtue of, not that I'm a long-time listener to Pints with Aquinas or anything like that,

00:11:44.100 but although I know that he's done good work, and I've heard that from several people,

00:11:48.240 so I'm not trying to be unnecessarily discouraging, but I just, he was picked up by the Daily Wire.

00:11:54.300 Yeah.

00:11:54.780 And so, to me, that said, like, there's, I'll just say it this way.

00:11:58.500 But you will not be getting any offers to host a show from Timothy Gordon on the Daily Wire.

00:12:05.480 For some reason.

00:12:06.580 For some reasons.

00:12:08.240 At least two of them.

00:12:10.280 JQ and WQ.

00:12:11.680 But he's a good guy.

00:12:12.740 He loves the Lord, Matt Fradd.

00:12:15.240 But it was terrifying.

00:12:16.580 I think it was his most watched show ever.

00:12:18.900 And I told a story.

00:12:20.380 This was when he was still in Atlanta.

00:12:21.800 I'd just gone to Disney World with my family the night before.

00:12:26.180 And we took the RV, which you saw in. 1.00

00:12:28.500 And he, you know, I was like, you know, women are out of control. 1.00

00:12:31.800 You don't know what I'm talking about. 1.00

00:12:32.780 Let me give you a story. 1.00

00:12:34.180 You know, we were walking to the parking lot yesterday and, you know, big fat woman was

00:12:39.920 walking with her husband and he was dutifully, lovingly trying to get her carbonated beverage

00:12:45.760 after a long day at Disney World. 0.76

00:12:47.720 And she was screaming at him about the wrong flavor of diet.

00:12:52.260 You know, the diet wasn't really working. 1.00

00:12:53.980 and and my wife was i mean steph gets pumped up she's like i want to go tell this lady 0.99

00:13:00.640 to like shut her trap or you're not cute enough to act like this or something and i was saying

00:13:05.940 this and um you know the audience had just never heard it and that was 2019 and that's when i

00:13:11.260 announced i was writing it and and the next month i got uh an invitation to go debate feminism

00:13:16.960 with trent horn who's another catholic a friend of matt frad's and uh we had a feminism debate

00:13:23.520 that's now kind of legendary you can still go listen to it but he was arguing in 2019 and i

00:13:28.960 believe september that feminism was good or there was some good iteration of it and i just thought

00:13:35.480 and i you know it was the debate went very well for me and uh i encourage people to go check it

00:13:40.900 out but then the book came out two and a half years later it took a while to get all of the

00:13:46.520 scripture and the patristic fathers together. And in 2021, 22, the world still wasn't ready

00:13:54.540 to hear the message. And something has changed between then and now. And so the movie, which

00:14:01.360 translates all of this, it really was set up as, you won't believe this, as a sequel to

00:14:08.480 Matt Walsh's film, because I do have some Catholic friends in the brass at Daily Wire. And I said,

00:14:15.880 this is going to be extreme you know we're actually going to answer the question what is a

00:14:21.240 woman which walsh's film for all its merits did not do right aside from a one-line answer

00:14:27.600 what it really did he did it but only in the physical plane sure not the deeper not spiritual

00:14:33.100 not emotional not like species and genus taxonomy and a woman is an adult human female

00:14:38.280 i don't know about you i knew that and he also he also does a capable job of saying what a woman

00:14:47.480 is not but i don't know about you but i also knew that a woman is not a man right and so what i guess

00:14:54.300 the 2014 2015 gender dysphoria world really did was it crossed everyone's wires the the transsexual

00:15:05.060 world um where one could be uh conservative and actually this this is still going on to some

00:15:13.780 extent over the last 10 years to be a more feminist uh to be a greater advocate of feminism

00:15:21.120 on the right than on the left as a response to gender dysphoria and so what i said is okay the

00:15:28.680 the primary argument of my book and it needs to be the movie is that the original gender dysphoria

00:15:34.180 is feminism. It's functional behavioral gender dysphoria. Or if gender dysphoria is defined as 0.99

00:15:42.040 hating your own sex or wanting to be the opposite sex, functionally and behaviorally,

00:15:49.740 it's everywhere. It affects 99% of people. It affects 99% of households. Ontological gender

00:15:58.740 dysphoria, transsexualism is a psyop run by certain, certain people on top of society that 0.67

00:16:05.320 don't even think influences one out of a thousand people. I don't know what the numbers are, but

00:16:08.820 they're, they're saturated. They're exaggerated. So ontological gender dysphoria is not really a

00:16:15.360 thing. But when I had been looking into functional gender dysphoria, feminism, which makes a woman 0.99

00:16:22.120 want to act like a man and a man want to act like a woman, it traces its roots back to the middle

00:16:28.300 1800s right and you know so there's this myth that that had been abiding in conservative academia

00:16:37.700 conservative popular media which said that the first wave was good when you look into the first 0.81

00:16:44.460 wave of feminism you realize there aren't waves of feminism gender dysphoria is the main thing 1.00

00:16:50.680 it just makes men and women want to cross roles and first wave feminism had five big goals that 0.92

00:16:58.540 are all cognizable and recognizable as the five main goals of second and third wave feminism

00:17:04.240 which leads to the conclusion that there are no genuine earnest waves of feminism at all so to

00:17:11.100 talk about them is to be misled and the last two years has given me some hope i thought this might

00:17:17.700 be the kind of um kirkagardian project where you you know your your last refuge is shaking a fist

00:17:23.260 in the sky and saying the future will show that i'm right or will prove that i'm right but

00:17:26.660 something happened with the the red pill online which we'll have to discuss and and pearl davis

00:17:33.820 that shook things loose in 2022 2023 and we're we're bearing fruit quicker than we thought we

00:17:40.940 would and and candace owens you know is hosting this documentary on her website which is where

00:17:46.120 you can go find which honestly i gotta be honest that surprises me yeah um you know but uh but i

00:17:52.120 think you told me that um that and i'm sure she does this with anything that she doesn't produce

00:17:57.540 herself uh but especially your project isn't there like a disclaimer at the beginning it's like uh

00:18:03.700 we we don't necessarily agree with these views something like that there is there is yeah and

00:18:08.320 we were fine with that yeah that's okay i get it because it's it's um mutual indemnification

00:18:14.280 in a way it works both ways and uh it's it's honest and i'm i'm friends with her husband

00:18:20.360 george husband and ceo and i think george to his credit george was really behind the project

00:18:26.120 um had loved it for nine months yeah and he really pushed it so for him yeah that's cool

00:18:31.820 uh let's do this we so your trailer for this is like five minutes long so we you know for the

00:18:37.360 sake of time we shorten it a little bit uh but we have a two-minute version of your trailer for the

00:18:42.440 film what a woman is and i just wanted for people who haven't you know even seen the trailer and

00:18:47.220 they don't even know this is the first time they're hearing about it i wanted them to see

00:18:50.420 just one to hear the messaging and two to see just the production value of the film so let's

00:18:56.460 let's go ahead nathan and play that trailer and then we'll come back and i've got some specific

00:18:59.920 questions i want to ask excellent it's been answered simply a woman is not a man

00:19:08.240 But in our age, it's never been answered with any specificity what a woman actually is.

00:19:19.240 The main thing that people need to grasp is that patriarchy is reality.

00:19:26.240 You have no choice between patriarchy and no patriarchy.

00:19:33.240 how many of your friends or your neighbors out in the burbs or in the herbs regularly use the

00:19:40.820 refrains happy wife happy life happy wife happy life right happy wife happy life let me go ask

00:19:46.620 the boss we'll have to check with the boss on this one okay let me check with my wife okay 1.00

00:19:51.180 I gotta ask my wife first this is the widespread evidence that everyone knows is there feminism is 1.00

00:19:58.900 one of the key elements they had to do first to bring about all the other revolutions. So whether 1.00

00:20:04.480 it's the 60s counterculture revolution or whether it's the biological trans revolution, all of that

00:20:10.080 had to be preceded by the feminist revolution first. But in the first place, the mutual agreement

00:20:14.960 to swap sex roles was not called gender dysphoria. It was called simply feminism. So any woman who's

00:20:24.540 truly feminine according to a feminist is degraded are you interested in knowing what the truth is 1.00

00:20:31.500 are you willing to submit to the truth now you need to be ready to change whatever plans you 1.00

00:20:36.760 think you had you have to decide what kind of woman you want to be

00:20:54.540 dude it was so well done there were so many things this is what i want to get into there

00:21:01.800 were so many moments um so his wife uh there's there's a section it keeps kind of coming back

00:21:07.740 to her there's some main characters in the film and you know it goes to them for a little bit and

00:21:11.740 goes to somebody else for a little bit you know like a typical documentary and so timothy gordon's

00:21:16.000 wife um and this is what i love i don't know your wife's first name based like so it goes on her and

00:21:26.040 they ask they like uh what is your name she says mrs timothy uh timothy gordon base baller uh and

00:21:33.780 and it's like and where is she in this documentary they put her uh seated at the island in her

00:21:38.900 kitchen i was like this is baller like i like my wife and i were so impressed and there was a moment

00:21:44.660 in the movie uh later on where you timothy you were discussing um okay so like uh a man we we

00:21:52.520 you know we would agree as you know conservatives what is a conservative today just a liberal from

00:21:57.120 15 minutes ago but conservatives would agree yeah you know a man shouldn't wear a dress um but then

00:22:02.480 you started saying yeah but but we're still perfectly fine with not only uh permissibility

00:22:07.280 but uh like vehemently advocating and advancing pushing for a man not to wear a dress but to

00:22:14.760 behave as though he does and the examples cited guys with like they're like um why are we uh

00:22:20.900 pushing for a man to do the dishes why are we pushing for a man to change diapers why are we

00:22:26.140 and it showed like clips of a man like uh helping you know doing all these kind of domestical duties

00:22:32.060 and and showed you know first wave feminism being uh you know people in black and white

00:22:37.580 being interviewed on the street it looked like it was london somewhere in england and asking like on

00:22:42.340 the weekends you know like uh do you work outside of the home and the woman's like some of them are

00:22:46.040 like yes some of them are no well on the weekends you know uh does your husband help you with the

00:22:50.240 duties you know what what is your husband what is he doing on the weekends when he's not working

00:22:54.260 when he's at home it's like oh he's doing the dishes and he's doing this and he's doing and

00:22:58.060 what is the woman doing oh she's resting and then like timothy comes you know back on and makes a

00:23:02.600 point um yeah so that's that's a man who's not wearing a dress but he's living as though he does

00:23:06.900 and i was like you can say that i was like look at that i was like i'm surprised that uh the

00:23:14.340 disclaimer that candace owens put on this was not like you know like bolder and bigger you know the

00:23:19.300 during the whole film right at the bottom third is just like 150 font you know i don't necessarily

00:23:25.260 It was based, man.

00:23:27.180 I was impressed.

00:23:28.440 Impressed.

00:23:29.460 That section's also important.

00:23:31.300 Thank you for all the praise.

00:23:33.060 That section's important because the narrator,

00:23:35.700 who is the director, Nicholas Stumphouser,

00:23:37.860 who's got a lot of films for a young guy under his belt,

00:23:41.900 and you've seen his crazy good style,

00:23:44.500 also directed Died Suddenly,

00:23:45.840 which like 50 million people saw.

00:23:48.660 He says, your grandparents' grandparents were feminists. 0.79

00:23:52.420 You've been lied to. 0.79

00:23:53.480 That was powerful. 1.00

00:23:54.160 And it's true, because feminism is, if you want to go original, original, it's original sin. 1.00

00:24:02.460 It's Eve, and we'll have to talk about Lilith some, fake apocryphal Lilith, but it's at least Eve and Adam mutually agreeing to swap roles.

00:24:11.860 but historically in the anglo west or whatever in western civilization it's 1848 and i've been in

00:24:22.200 squabbles with elderly relatives who you know were 90 or 100 saying i i could have been your boss

00:24:29.560 because i remember talking once about my my tyrannical femme boss when i was a land man i

00:24:35.440 was like i have a land man boss i don't even know what to call it was she a land man or a land woman

00:24:40.240 man and you know my my relative was like i could i could have been your good boss so i was like

00:24:46.280 no you're you're a woman i i don't want that no man wants it it's so mortifying and and what we

00:24:53.400 have en masse in society is a ritual humiliation ritual i mean a ceremonial ritual of humiliation 0.71

00:25:02.280 where we go to work and we're we're we're told to act in a way that befits women we're told to

00:25:07.960 say things that make women feel good about themselves you guys know the the red pill content

00:25:12.920 gets that much right but um i i think once people get their mind around that point that you're

00:25:20.080 you're highlighting there joel that conservatives normies all condemn women going in the men's

00:25:28.380 bathroom or men going in the women's bathroom or men wearing a woman's dress but that's those

00:25:32.480 are just behaviors that are illicit, and they should be illicit. But why... We had a segment

00:25:38.920 called Diapergate with this woman, all the way living in the United Arab Emirates, who set 0.53

00:25:45.700 Catholic Twitter on fire, right-of-shoes converting, by saying, why are all these men changing diapers? 0.84

00:25:50.740 We call it Diapergate. And good trad Catholics, Latin mass Catholics, jumped all over her case. 0.62

00:25:58.500 They jumped all over her case. I was the only guy I knew that came to her aid. I was like,

00:26:02.280 no, this is right.

00:26:03.220 Are you guys gender dysphorics or not?

00:26:05.680 You know?

00:26:06.800 Yeah.

00:26:07.640 Yeah, there's, you know, it's like,

00:26:10.020 hey, the Trump administration is going to ban men

00:26:12.520 from being in women's sports.

00:26:13.840 And you're just like, 1.00

00:26:14.800 wake me up when they ban women's sports.

00:26:16.440 Thank you. 1.00

00:26:17.740 What's more gender dysphoric? 0.85

00:26:19.500 It is. 0.97

00:26:19.980 Women in women's sports or men in women's sports? 0.98

00:26:22.240 Because men playing women's sports, 0.98

00:26:23.900 at least they're playing sports still. 0.79

00:26:26.220 They're being competitive.

00:26:27.200 They're acting like men.

00:26:28.180 Right, they're acting like men. 1.00

00:26:29.820 Women in women's sports are more gender dysphoric. 0.85

00:26:32.280 in my view, and the view of Western civilization. 0.97

00:26:35.200 Go into that for just a little bit, because I actually think that it's not just nitpicking,

00:26:39.040 and it's not just, you know, like, hey, this is a moment to be super-based.

00:26:42.580 There's a ton of reasoning behind this, and a lot of medical study, and Wes, maybe you

00:26:46.780 can share a couple examples of that.

00:26:48.860 You know, Wes's background is, you know, he's a Columbia grad, and has done a lot of biology

00:26:53.560 and things like that, and also has his master's.

00:26:55.620 But for you first, though, Timothy, what was some of the reasoning that you would say that

00:27:01.140 it is that it's not feminine it's not uh it does not behoove women in a domestic feminine role

00:27:07.700 to be competing in sports well i'd give two answers i think i think wes will give the the

00:27:13.660 hyper muscular version of my second answer but i would say first off we don't like short you know

00:27:21.940 skanky outfits on cheerleaders but cheerleading proper in maybe the older outfits i don't know

00:27:28.060 what a cheerleader can wear that's that's appropriate right but if you can conceive of

00:27:32.940 an outfit do you let the costumery people deal with that it's very appropriate for men to take

00:27:39.420 center stage even at the level of high school especially at the level of high school where

00:27:43.560 we're grooming young men to grow up and be warrior poets or whatever you it gets larpy fast but 1.00

00:27:49.180 whatever education is supposed to do men should be at center stage and women being on the sidelines

00:27:56.080 cheering them on is entirely appropriate so that's answer one and i remember i had another 0.95

00:28:02.760 sort of relative of a relative who said i don't want my daughter to grow up and be a cheerleader

00:28:07.720 i wanted to grow up and be a volleyball star and i was like like this is this is gender dysphoric

00:28:13.600 once again you look under a rock and you're going to see gender dysphoria so that's answer number

00:28:18.460 one answer number two that west can probably this will just be a runway for him is female athlete

00:28:24.900 triad i would i would ask most basically what is the telos the goal or the end of male sports

00:28:33.280 they are to prepare in some some broad maybe perhaps overbroad but some general sense for war

00:28:43.420 and more than that they are healthy for the individual warrior coming of age meaning they

00:28:50.780 literally increases virility, increases testosterone, and make him more likely to be

00:28:56.120 able to reproduce. Right. That's what sports do. That's what they do when they increase your 0.62

00:29:00.140 testosterone. When you look at what sports, almost any sports, we're talking, the studies I've seen

00:29:05.180 were JV high school level sports. We're not just talking about hyper-athletic female Olympians.

00:29:13.160 It's called the female athlete triad. They become very easily, they have too much testosterone in 1.00

00:29:19.280 their system not enough to be good at the sport but enough to make them uh or reproductively 0.96

00:29:24.840 unsound and many girls it's something like in some studies up to 35 or 40 percent will stop 0.71

00:29:31.840 hitting their period monthly and not to be gross but it's important because it shows that sports 0.67

00:29:38.760 do the exact opposite thing to a woman they make her less womanly and less able to bear children 0.93

00:29:45.860 whereas sports make a man more able to build our children. 0.88

00:29:48.940 Because sports are masculine.

00:29:49.960 It's competition.

00:29:51.140 It's taking two teams, or you could say two armies.

00:29:54.460 That's what it is.

00:29:55.000 It's a simulation of taking two armies,

00:29:57.700 forging them together, training for battle,

00:30:00.300 and then having a scrimmage, having a simulation of war

00:30:03.780 and what it would be like except without the blood and bullets.

00:30:07.020 And so it's befitting of a man.

00:30:08.880 It's in this masculine direction.

00:30:11.440 And so it only makes logical sense that when you put boys,

00:30:15.860 future men in sports it actually if anything it it works as a catalyst and expedites uh their 0.72

00:30:23.580 their manhood maturing it it propels them more into masculinity but when you put women into that

00:30:32.760 it actually inhibits them being feminine even at a biological level and i love what you said about

00:30:39.320 the cheerleading thing because that's not just you know a funny throwaway line like that's that's 0.51

00:30:43.460 actually significant um i think that is far more gender dysphoric and and therefore immoral and 0.54

00:30:50.940 outside of god's plan for humanity for men and women uh for a man to be um a cheerleader than

00:30:59.340 for a man to be in women's sports i don't think we should have men and women's sports but more

00:31:04.820 than that i think we shouldn't have women's sports period but you take a man and you put

00:31:09.220 them in uh women's volleyball you allow them to play in women's volleyball um that actually is

00:31:14.800 less perverse it's unfair uh but that's less of a perversion of for the man uh than it is to put a

00:31:22.800 man as a cheerleader because that is a feminine role of of a help meet role that you're cheering

00:31:28.860 on you're encouraging uh you're on the side uh esteeming and drawing attention i think of like

00:31:35.200 you know proverbs 31 the woman that um she's uh she's constantly uh singing the praises of her

00:31:42.820 husband you know as he sits in the city gates like he's among the elders he's making these decisions

00:31:48.100 for the community for the village he's in the leadership role and she's playing this uh this

00:31:53.700 background uh part to you know he's the solo instrument she's the accompaniment and she's

00:32:00.060 her whole purpose is to serve and highlight and draw attention to his prominent role. And so to

00:32:07.540 take a young man and allow him to be a cheerleader is to allow him to be womanly. To take a man and 1.00

00:32:14.160 put him in women's sports is he's being a man with a bunch of other people who shouldn't be,

00:32:19.120 you know, but are pretending to be men. To take a man and make him a cheerleader

00:32:22.940 is taking a man and causing him to behave in every regard as a woman. 0.94

00:32:29.020 It's not a coincidence. Every NFL cheerleader, those are some effeminate men. There's a couple

00:32:34.500 teams now that have added male cheerleaders to their NFL regimen. Those are men that are

00:32:38.680 limp-wristed. Those are men that are effeminate in their conduct. When it comes to the women in 0.96

00:32:43.280 sports thing, unless we're talking a sport like chess or e-gaming or something like that, 1.00

00:32:47.660 every meaningful sport, your tennis, your CrossFit, whatever it would be, for a woman to compete in 1.00

00:32:52.380 that, she is going to be, if she wants to win, she wants to succeed and be the best, the more muscle, 0.98

00:32:57.280 the more testosterone, and the less body fat she has. All of those factors within reason,

00:33:02.540 if she has more muscle, if she has less body fat, and higher testosterone, it's going to make her 1.00

00:33:07.120 faster, better, and stronger. But those things in a woman directly conflict with her ability 1.00

00:33:13.680 to have children, to be healthy, and to be fertile. When it comes to CrossFit, for example, 0.92

00:33:19.400 testosterone is what builds your muscle. Testosterone is what helps you recover.

00:33:22.980 Testosterone is what helps your drive. You're tired, it's day, whatever would be of training.

00:33:27.280 testosterone is what helps get you up. So women do everything they can, whether it be through 1.00

00:33:31.760 supplements, whether it be through lifting, heavy weights, whether it be outside in the sun, 1.00

00:33:35.300 they do all of these things to increase their testosterone. But then all of these women, 1.00

00:33:39.460 they either, for one, they're training through their menstrual period, which is terrible. I have 1.00

00:33:43.780 a story right here, Sarah Singman's daughter, a CrossFit athlete, she's throwing up on the field

00:33:48.240 again and again, trying to train through her period. And then she loses it for two years.

00:33:52.640 So you can't have both. It can't be, and I want to be a fertile, healthy woman. And also I want

00:33:57.700 to compete in this sport, but even walk it back a little bit to college, your healthiest years of

00:34:02.340 life and the stress of competition, the travel with competition, your cycle, also your schedule,

00:34:09.480 you're up late at night, you're traveling, you're crossing time zones. Women, when it comes to like 1.00

00:34:13.500 nurses, for example, women that work third shift, their lives get destroyed way worse than men. 0.65

00:34:18.800 Being up at night and having to switch nights and days, men are a lot more suited to that.

00:34:22.640 Men are suited biologically to everything that makes them competitive and good at sports. 0.90

00:34:28.040 And for women to do that, if they're going to actually meaningfully do it at a competitive level, 0.99

00:34:31.740 it means doing nothing that is womanly and everything that is manly. 0.99

00:34:35.360 More testosterone, more drive, more lifting, more heavy muscle.

00:34:38.920 It's literally the complete opposite. 1.00

00:34:40.980 And we, of course, see, oh, and these women lose their period. 1.00

00:34:44.120 Or if they want to be competitive, I think Serena Williams, a tennis star, she was talking about this. 1.00

00:34:48.800 She's like, what in the world?

00:34:49.660 I want to have kids, but I also want to be this tennis star. It's not fair. Men get to do that.

00:34:55.000 Men don't have to worry about having kids. It's like, wow. Yeah, because you're a woman.

00:34:59.800 Because God designed us absolutely, not a little different, which has become politically correct

00:35:06.040 for even some conservatives to admit, but oppositely. Men become more virile. Women become

00:35:12.540 less womanly by sports. And that's because like Joel said- 0.78

00:35:15.480 Literally the opposite of virile. So virile meaning fertility, fecundity.

00:35:18.660 manly yeah men more yeah men less in sports directly can we talk about i wanted to address

00:35:25.380 tennis and then chess really fast well i was just going to say also on the on the topic of sports

00:35:32.320 like you think about the biological realities that women have to cross um like it's not lost

00:35:37.900 to me that culturally even as you see the development of sports in the west it goes from

00:35:41.520 these very physical i mean you can even think about like medieval sports jousting and um and

00:35:47.360 archery and those sorts of things physical sports even into uh you know the development of football

00:35:52.340 american football and those sorts of things to look real football look at some of the sports that

00:35:56.160 are that exist now you just look at the olympics i mean we they they have steadily gotten less

00:36:01.720 physically um sort of demanding in the sense of like skating and um surfing and all of these

00:36:07.900 things that have sort of all these sports have gained in popularity and developed they're all

00:36:12.240 they're they're attempts you could say culturally for women to sort of create an app you know a

00:36:16.900 sport or some kind of like competition ground where the biological realities aren't as prevalent

00:36:22.540 so um so that's just also something to worth consider worth considering you know i share in

00:36:28.140 in the case for patriarchy i share this story about serena williams who said who always believe

00:36:36.140 it or not has had a reasonably realistic conception of what a female athlete is in

00:36:41.360 relation to a male athlete, not even second class. But she, this is around the turn of the century,

00:36:48.620 predicted, I think I ought to be able to beat around the 200th ranked male tennis star. So

00:36:55.380 she picked out someone that was ranked around 200th. He was a German named Karsten Brash.

00:37:00.980 And she's like, I want to play him. I think I can beat him. So Karsten, before he played her,

00:37:05.880 he chugged a beer he smoked a cig and he beat her i can't remember the tennis scores are weird

00:37:12.040 either six one six love or six one and she was like wow i've never afterwards they interviewed

00:37:18.080 her she said i've never seen uh serve return to me like that it's it's a different sport

00:37:23.080 all together and then her sister came up and tried him and he beat her six zero or six one as well

00:37:29.080 so the the point is this is the greatest female tennis player this is not like top 10 or top five

00:37:33.780 like built her whole life tennis tennis tennis live and breathe this dude sent me a serve that 0.97

00:37:40.660 i couldn't even return exactly she's the goat she's the goat and and this isn't even the same 0.96

00:37:46.120 sport and her sister is like what second best or whatever i mean we're we're we're majoring in the 0.98

00:37:51.840 minors when we're talking about female sports in general but yeah she is the goat she is the widely 1.00

00:37:56.460 received goat and she just if you look at what she says about females in sports it's um it's 1.00

00:38:03.400 borderline based, even though she understands what the stakes of the game are. And I would 1.00

00:38:09.280 just say tennis is probably better for women than now NFL is pushing what used to be called 1.00

00:38:16.960 powder puff. They're pushing women in flag football really hard. That's extra bad. Tennis 1.00

00:38:21.660 is one of the ones you'd kind of, when you're a young man, you kind of like your girlfriend to

00:38:25.460 play tennis or soccer because it's a lot of running, which is estrogenic, but it's still

00:38:30.420 bad for them i would just say chess if you check the all-time 50 highest ranked chess players um 0.90

00:38:37.360 or check bobby fisher who's very based about wq or jq um you're not gonna find women anywhere

00:38:44.140 he was a very based guy he was jewish himself i know he came out and he's like yeah the united

00:38:49.280 states is a jewish farce essentially the goat yeah if you get that good at chess um i just

00:38:57.240 want to point out there seems to be a direct correlation it's like if you are brilliant enough 0.94

00:39:01.660 to be a chess master and even if you happen to be jewish that level of intelligence in one field 0.98

00:39:08.320 tends to boil over to a right yeah you just are a problem well i'll say even too with chess because 0.90

00:39:14.820 sometimes people conflate there's the polgar sisters which were trained from very early on

00:39:18.820 by their father to be really good at chess and i think judith polgar would be considered the

00:39:22.560 greatest uh chess player for women and she's a couple times beat like magnus carlson and blitz

00:39:26.960 or something like that but we're talking classic like actual chess where the strategy blitz can be

00:39:31.460 as short as 60 seconds so sometimes people will try to whip that out as a gotcha and like well

00:39:35.500 actually judith polgar blah blah and blitz but no in classic chess it's not even close there's been

00:39:41.640 no one to match some of the greats like magnus carlson he can play 10 people blindfolded memorizing

00:39:46.900 all the pieces and that's like you said it's mental nothing physical about it nothing to do

00:39:51.660 with muscle mass or body fat or any of that purely mental and again categorical massive chasm between

00:39:57.780 the two right it just has to be recognized um i forget what i was gonna oh okay so i've got to

00:40:05.160 bring this up one of the most fascinating sections of the documentary was um you had an exorcist

00:40:13.100 in the film and uh and he was pretty based now there was you know there was one part which we

00:40:19.380 don't have to go into it you know you're catholic i'm protestant you know so help me but um but you

00:40:24.920 know there was one part where like my wife was listening she was like she was like based and

00:40:28.620 like he's sitting there talking and then um and then you know he got he couldn't help himself he

00:40:32.980 got into purgatory for a moment there and my wife and i we looked at each other we smiled and we're

00:40:37.160 like it's inevitable that's good you know they're catholic it's gonna happen you know but everything

00:40:42.120 else he was saying but here's the deal this is what i found so fascinating was you know he was

00:40:45.800 showing his office and he was showing you know like his library and all his different literature

00:40:49.700 and and he was like this is an entire section over here you know on um because what does exorcism

00:40:56.100 have to do with feminism that that was the the big the big question the burning question and

00:41:00.560 the correlation was uh what does feminism have to do with with exorcism and demons and satan

00:41:05.300 he was like uh witches witches and there was a whole portion of the documentary directly linking

00:41:12.920 and you mentioned earlier briefly i we got to talk about lilith so can we go there

00:41:18.240 let's go there and i think by the way this is the segment that really sold candace that she was like

00:41:24.060 this is really cool the the witchcraft segment it's toward the beginning of the film and and

00:41:29.140 people should go check it out so one thing i like to say is that you have eve who is the godmother

00:41:39.120 of feminism and feminists today like we we quote one uh named katie scott marshall a prominent

00:41:45.120 feminist who says look eve is is honestly very emblematic of feminism and the struggle against 0.73

00:41:51.680 patriarchy feminists are quite honest that's the good thing particularly secular feminists

00:41:56.420 feminism cannot coexist with christianity we'll get into that um the widespread admission by the 0.99

00:42:02.180 first wave feminists who all said feminism can't coexist with christianity yeah they literally

00:42:06.960 admitted, if we're going to win, we don't just have to dismantle the patriarchy. We have to 1.00

00:42:11.880 dismantle Christianity. The patriarchy is Christianity. Of course. And that's what I 0.82

00:42:15.580 always say. The patriarchy is Christianity. It doesn't matter what type of Christian you are. 0.91

00:42:19.740 If you're a Trinitarian Christian, patriarchy is Christianity. We and the Orthodox would say

00:42:25.560 it's a bimodal patriarchy, a clerical one, and a lay patriarchy. But the feminists object to all 0.99

00:42:31.960 of it. And literally the lady who was the head of first wave feminism, Seneca Falls Convention 1.00

00:42:38.960 in upstate New York in 1848, she rewrote the Bible and she said, the Bible cannot coexist

00:42:47.520 with our goals. There can be no Christian feminism. So they're more honest and they're

00:42:52.080 more useful to guys like us nowadays to say, look at the actual first wave feminists. They didn't 1.00

00:42:57.760 think that you could have this circular square known as a Christian feminist. But what I wanted 0.69

00:43:02.440 to point out is, of course, Eve, she rejected, she repudiated the God and man-instituted

00:43:12.880 patriarchy, and she got punished for it. So she is the feminist tragic hero, fallen hero.

00:43:21.100 So apocryphal Lilith, and kids that grew up in the 90s that are about our age will remember

00:43:28.320 the fascination in the popular culture in the 90s with Lilith.

00:43:32.540 Lilith Fest, Lilith Fair, Lilith Crane from Frasier and Cheers, Lilith Jewish Women's

00:43:39.640 Magazine is considered one of the cornerstones of printed periodical feminism, Lilith Jewish 0.91

00:43:48.440 Women's Magazine. I'm sure you guys are avid readers of that. Who is Lilith? Lilith comes

00:43:55.840 out of the Babylonian Talmud, so you know this is going to be rich. She was Adam's apocryphal

00:44:01.840 first wife. We as Christians know it's nonsense, but the Jews believe she was Adam's first wife,

00:44:06.800 and she was and is, as a template for feminists, she's the superhero, whereas Eve is the tragic 0.52

00:44:16.060 here who got punished lilith spawned with demons killed um adam's children uh is known as sort of 1.00

00:44:24.180 the the demon of sid's deaths and abortions and the earliest feminists were all witches they all

00:44:32.280 spent much time at the seance table and they all really looked up to lilith even more than eve 0.97

00:44:38.300 because she got away with it she got she refused to have sex with her husband husband adam and she 1.00

00:44:45.720 spawned with demons and she was a scourge on humanity so that's why feminists loved that that's

00:44:52.160 what all this lilith fair lilith fest business was in the 90s and and still she's very important to

00:44:58.300 them q witchcraft we looked up and father chad the the based exorcist um who's one of the few

00:45:07.260 catholics that's really strong on this that the coolest priest in the world when you ask him on

00:45:11.540 this. And he spends time at Mar-a-Lago, so he's gotten in close there. Very, very based all around.

00:45:19.680 He's like, look, that book he was pulling out of his library, he started saying it, but he didn't

00:45:24.840 say it. It was called The Hammer of Witches, the Malleus Maleficarum. And it says that there's

00:45:30.260 this connection between witches and the act of coitus, and seven specific demonic things they do,

00:45:40.940 including, you know, dismemberment and, you know, killing children. Abortion is one of them. So the 0.53

00:45:49.560 earliest known abortions in medieval Europe were all witches using Jewish lilith as a template 0.99

00:45:57.760 to kill children. And witches are the earliest European, I don't want to say leitmotif, 0.95

00:46:06.260 icon of what modern feminists... And modern feminists are just first wave feminists. So 1.00

00:46:12.960 they don't want children. They hate men. They compete with men. And if they're forced into the 0.99

00:46:19.960 role of woman, this is the... I'm quoting now from that document at Seneca Falls in 1848. It's called

00:46:26.880 the Declaration of Grievances. It says they will be subjugated as wives, as Christian wives. So 1.00

00:46:34.520 they're very honest and that's very useful to us now yeah yeah very useful uh any other well first

00:46:42.380 let's just where where can people go and watch the film so go to candaceowens.com it's if you

00:46:47.840 scroll a little bit down it's under documentaries it will be free for the public for two days a day

00:46:56.400 and a half on february 4th and february 5th okay i think matt walsh used this model with his

00:47:02.880 documentary what is a woman and it worked very well they they released it at first

00:47:07.380 and um however many people watched it paid for it but a couple i think it was like a weekend of free

00:47:15.700 free views helped everyone to say you know i need to go see this if i even if i didn't catch it free

00:47:21.420 so february 4th and 5th if you don't want to pay it's only a dollar 99 right but if you don't want

00:47:26.500 to pay a dollar 99 go go check it out pay a dollar 99 please pay a dollar yeah pay the dollar

00:47:31.400 99 i could use it yeah it's a dollar 99 and you probably get what like nine cents of that dollar

00:47:36.780 99 no no to candace's credit uh the the film's director myself and uh our investors get six

00:47:45.960 60 of that oh good so so literally over it's like a dollar 20 out of every two dollars

00:47:50.940 candace candace was very uh good yeah okay yeah dollar 99 can't that that's uh that's her benchmark

00:47:57.940 And that's the same price, I think, that...

00:48:00.760 I think Nick was, yeah.

00:48:01.280 The Fuentes interview, yeah.

00:48:02.240 Yeah, when she paid you all that, Nick was not very excited about it.

00:48:05.060 No, but I thought $1.99 is good.

00:48:07.640 See, originally, George, Candace's husband, said,

00:48:11.160 what do you want, thank $3.99, $4.99.

00:48:14.240 I was like, let's do the same amount you charge for the Fuentes interview.

00:48:18.280 Right.

00:48:18.720 And I think $1.99 is good.

00:48:20.620 Everyone was mad about that two bucks. 0.96

00:48:22.520 That's ridiculous. 0.93

00:48:23.540 Yeah. 0.96

00:48:23.700 People, that's the thing.

00:48:25.380 It's like, yeah, we want to get truth out.

00:48:27.600 and we want to get it to as many people as possible

00:48:29.680 and we don't want to paywall things if we don't have

00:48:31.720 to but at the same time it's like

00:48:33.220 it's just the way

00:48:35.680 of the world that it costs money

00:48:37.700 like watching that documentary it's like

00:48:39.680 no this isn't free

00:48:41.260 you know like it costs you know the camera

00:48:43.660 equipment the production value you know getting

00:48:45.580 flying people out and all these

00:48:47.720 kinds of things like so it's you know it's not

00:48:49.620 so much like oh we're trying to make

00:48:51.660 a profit and get rich off of the masses

00:48:53.840 it's like no we're trying to

00:48:55.200 just at least not be in the hole

00:48:57.240 not have to take a second mortgage out on our own home you know in order to to do this preferably

00:49:02.720 yeah yeah yeah usury is wicked uh nick nick flew to the united arab emirates he flew to england he

00:49:09.140 flew to rome italy to get some of her interviews all over the united states so it shows up on

00:49:15.120 who's this that's that's not fuentes no this is nicholas stumphauser the director of of the film

00:49:20.440 who has i think eight films under his belt so what was your title with this film so i am

00:49:25.660 I'm creator, co-writer, and producer of the film

00:49:30.900 because it was based on my book, Case for Patriarchy,

00:49:34.700 and I storyboarded it.

00:49:35.820 It's also partly based on my wife's book.

00:49:38.560 You will not find it under...

00:49:39.580 Ask Your Husband?

00:49:39.920 Ask Your Husband, yeah.

00:49:41.180 I brought you a copy of that.

00:49:42.240 I love that.

00:49:42.680 By Mrs. Timothy J. Gordon.

00:49:44.240 That's right.

00:49:45.360 So this is a funny story.

00:49:47.960 That book was originally on a Catholic title,

00:49:52.280 a Catholic publication,

00:49:53.380 and um we we had to break with them because a month in they said this is you know we had to

00:50:00.820 break with them and i'll leave it there but it's a controversial work ask your husband and so when

00:50:08.380 she had published it they're like we want to use your name she's like i want to go mrs timothy j

00:50:12.420 gordon and they're like we have to force you to use your name so once we started self-publishing

00:50:16.900 it after we broke with uh tan books a based catholic publisher by most measures steph's like

00:50:26.040 okay well at least cool now i can now i can go with my real name mrs timothy i love that let's

00:50:31.860 let's talk about that real quick um you know because you're saying we had to break with this

00:50:35.600 catholic publication and you know one of the first things uh that you and i were talking about when

00:50:40.160 you you know right when you walked into the studio this morning was uh i was like man dude you know

00:50:45.300 watching that documentary i know you know a ton of catholics are are nominal just across the board

00:50:49.560 and then you know especially on this issue a ton of them would take a much more liberal feminist 0.99

00:50:53.260 position um but the fact that there's at least some out there that have it you know and so

00:50:58.580 anyways we were going back and forth and i was saying man i feel like um i feel like protestants

00:51:03.280 i was saying this i feel like protestants are the worst on feminism you're like i feel like

00:51:07.460 catholics are the worst and so you know and we both have that sense because we're because we're 0.98

00:51:12.540 each in our own camp like you're you know you're probably i would imagine like for every engagement 1.00

00:51:18.680 and interaction you have with a protestant you probably have 10 with catholics of course and

00:51:23.560 and vice versa uh but for me i'm like you know protestants have not held the line on on this

00:51:28.940 issue at all i mean even even the best ones are like yeah we're you know we're patriarchy they

00:51:35.200 don't even i can't even say that um the average conservative protestant won't even use the word

00:51:41.700 patriarchy because they think it's gross they think it's icky so they'll say we're complementarian

00:51:46.060 which the the whole idea just for the record with complementarianism is aside from the physical 0.77

00:51:51.280 distinctions in design right like women having breasts and hips and these you know and men you

00:51:56.160 know having broader shoulders aside from the physical distinctions between the sexes um the

00:52:01.680 the complementarian what they're essentially asserting is that there is uh in the realm of

00:52:07.400 design there is a distinction in the physical that's it only in the physical but aside from

00:52:13.720 that in every other regard it's two individuals who complement one another predominantly in the

00:52:20.360 realm of role so if you think like the two main headlines is role and design they would say well

00:52:27.020 the roles are distinct in order to complement one another but the design is mostly the same

00:52:33.480 the only distinction being in a subcategory of the design category physical but but they wouldn't

00:52:40.020 really speak to any distinction in the realm of design in terms of the soul or in terms of

00:52:46.620 emotional certainly not mental they would not you know point to studies of like hey well it's just

00:52:53.460 because you know men are stronger and that's not why they win you know at tennis or that's why they

00:52:56.980 win you know basketball um they they will uh totally avoid is like okay but but um how much

00:53:04.160 physical strength does it take to move a bishop across the board and how come men always win with

00:53:09.240 that too oh there's a mental distinction at every single level like i would argue and i know you

00:53:14.960 agree with this but one of the reasons that saint paul cites for um the husband being the head and

00:53:21.780 the woman not, is not just because of physical strength or these kinds of things, but he roots

00:53:28.180 it in the order of creation. Man was formed first, and woman was formed from man and for man.

00:53:33.800 He also roots it not only the order of creation, but the order of the fall. Woman fell first, 0.98

00:53:38.960 all right? And then Adam followed his wife into this fall, but then also not just the order of

00:53:43.440 the fall, but the manner of the fall, which gets into design. The woman was deceived and became,

00:53:48.960 And you read all the authors with inquisitim of antiquity, and they all, without blushing or without even equivocation, they just plainly say, and they're not being degrading or rude about it, it's just they state it as a theological fact that, oh, yeah, well, one of the reasons that women aren't called to lead, not only in the realm of the church or the home, but even the civil sphere and the public square, is because women are more susceptible to being deceived than men. 0.64

00:54:12.780 Jerome, Ambrose, Augustine, Chrysostom all make this point very explicitly that, I mean,

00:54:18.600 Chrysostom says...

00:54:19.840 Even the reformers in the 16th and 17th century continue to, you know, like William Gooch,

00:54:24.900 domestical duties, they make the same argument.

00:54:27.480 Yeah.

00:54:27.840 No, of course, because they're smart guys.

00:54:31.300 I mean, like, I think Chrysostom goes so far as to say, look, man was sort of semi-deceived,

00:54:37.160 a deception within a deception by his wife, who's a human being.

00:54:41.720 his but eve was deceived by a beast you know he's and he's kind of having some fun with it so

00:54:47.960 there is no patristic father that doesn't that doesn't think that think that yeah and i i tend

00:54:54.360 to be in the position in terms of adam i think that the um the the primary sin was um less of

00:55:00.320 deception and more of uh idolatry i think that ultimately what adam and i think the parallel

00:55:05.600 You know, in Christ, as the second Adam, you have the first Adam, he's actually formed in the wilderness, but immediately, as far as we can tell, immediately placed into a garden context, a place of plenty, a place of protection, and all these things.

00:55:27.720 And he starts, he's able to start his life, he doesn't start as a baby, he starts as a full-grown, mature man.

00:55:33.700 He's created in a state of maturity and, you know, in a state of integrity or innocence.

00:55:40.500 And there's one adversary, you know, the serpent, you know, that creeps into the garden.

00:55:45.180 But in the case of Adam, it's like the whole thing is set in his favor.

00:55:50.240 He has the advantage.

00:55:51.560 He has the high ground.

00:55:52.620 He's on the hill to defend.

00:55:54.360 And the serpent is at an immense disadvantage.

00:55:58.220 And when you think of like, when you parallel Adam in a garden, Christ in the wilderness,

00:56:02.320 thinking of his three temptations. Adam, a place of plenty. Christ, a place of scarcity. Adam,

00:56:08.020 well, all his victuals and provisions, you know, he's full. Like Christ, you know, fasting, you

00:56:13.260 know, for 40 days and 40 nights. Adam, having to resist sin, not through infancy or through

00:56:18.880 childhood, but being able to begin as a fully mature man. Christ, having to make it through

00:56:25.440 the terrible twos, you know, as sinless, you know, and, you know, all these different parallels.

00:56:30.440 But then when it comes to Adam, Eve being deceived, you know, my thought is what Adam should have done, one, he should have been guarding and keeping, guarding, keeping the garden from the adversary, from the serpent.

00:56:46.260 but had the serpent snuck in and it wasn't a manner of his lack of watchfulness it was more

00:56:52.620 in the category of his finitude rather than fallenness it's like the serpent just got in

00:56:56.600 it wasn't his fault it wasn't because he was abdicating his duties but still came in and

00:57:02.400 deceived his wife and Adam you know had he had an alibi you know he didn't it wasn't a moral

00:57:08.120 failure he was down you know gathering water or something like that even if that was the case

00:57:12.520 what Adam should have done the very moment that he realized what happened is he should have gone

00:57:17.620 and approached the Lord in the cool of the day when God would walk with them, this theophany or

00:57:21.920 Christophany, however you view that, and he should have approached God and said, God, something

00:57:28.140 terrible has happened. My wife has broken your commandment, and I know that she should surely

00:57:32.720 die. That's what you promised. The day you eat of it, you shall surely die. But I, as the Christ, 0.97

00:57:37.740 he shows i i would is there any way that i could die in her place and and most of the the guys you

00:57:44.800 know church fathers that that i've read on this subject they say that adam's primary sin rather

00:57:50.040 than being deception was um it was idolatry he knew um he was not deceived he he sinned with

00:57:56.440 his eyes wide open he knew what happened he knew that it was wrong he knew that it meant death

00:58:01.400 and he essentially said i'd rather die with my wife than live with the lord right he loved so

00:58:06.820 So he actually, it is this sacrificial love, but it's an idolatrous love that he exalted

00:58:13.200 Eve above the Lord in that moment, and that that was the fatal flaw.

00:58:19.260 Father Chad makes a similar point in the film, actually.

00:58:22.160 Yeah. 0.89

00:58:22.440 Not in as much detail, but it's true.

00:58:24.640 It's just not wanting to be removed from her company.

00:58:29.060 Her company.

00:58:29.660 Yeah. 0.99

00:58:29.880 I'd rather die with her than live with God. 0.99

00:58:32.560 Which is idolatry. 0.98

00:58:33.340 Which is idolatry, and we still see that.

00:58:35.740 that's what white knights are yeah that's what it is to be you know like you know excuse the

00:58:41.420 language but completely cupped yeah to be long housed it is to say like i'd rather like so many

00:58:46.640 men are my point is so many men like adam also are sinning with their eyes wide open many many

00:58:51.840 young modern women really are deceived they really are they're still culpable i'm not saying that

00:58:56.960 deception means there's no moral culpability they're responsible for being deceived but so

00:59:02.000 many men are actually not deceived i i i see men all the time and interact with them and you know

00:59:07.380 behind the scenes they won't admit it publicly but they're like yeah i know joan yeah i know but

00:59:11.760 what are we gonna do you know and like i it's my wife or you know it's my daughter or you know it's

00:59:17.820 it's whatever and and essentially what they're saying is that the same thing that adam you know

00:59:22.520 without without words but but what adam conveyed i think what adam would have said um i'd rather

00:59:28.240 I'd rather go down with the ship. I'd rather die with her than live with God.

00:59:32.660 That's reflected and best expressed by happy wife, happy life. Men are saying with their

00:59:37.760 eyes wide open, yeah, I know that if you put the second in charge, my helpmeet, which is what a 0.72

00:59:45.620 woman really is, is a helpmeet. She's not the main character. If I tell her she's the main character 1.00

00:59:49.820 along with society and I put her in charge, she will immediately become a tyrant. And I've done

00:59:55.180 so but i'm going to keep her happy and just have a it's like a perverse sacrificial love just the

01:00:02.060 way you're describing joel i'll just have a a rotten life and she'll be yelling at me all the

01:00:07.500 time and i'll feel bad about myself it'll lower my testosterone it's not ultimately good but

01:00:12.480 there will be a kind of happiness because there will be this um uneasy peace around the household

01:00:17.300 which is what 98 99 percent of households are running with and i think too at at the base of

01:00:23.360 it is also i'll shall at least have sex with me sometimes i can hold the line right and i'm

01:00:28.320 getting nothing at least where i'm at right now it's once or twice a month and literally it's like 0.87

01:00:32.960 it's it's uh sexual just not perversion but a type of sexual appetite that it's like i can't

01:00:39.420 say no to this and so because i can't say no to this i can't endanger this thing that i so

01:00:43.480 desperately long for that's right i refuse to lay down the law in my house and that's and most of

01:00:48.700 them they would probably admit that they'd be like if i'm honest here's why i won't lay down 0.93

01:00:51.900 the law yeah it's because of this versus the deception of women i mean so many of them they

01:00:56.180 think they're right like you give them the truth saying they'd be like i've been the victim my whole 0.58

01:01:00.740 life i truly believe it whereas men it's like yeah i'm a little bit of a simp right uh real quick

01:01:06.520 just one more time going back to the the adam and the second adam christ parallel um i i think that

01:01:12.340 there's there's even a correlation and this is you know implicit and so i i admit that i'm reading

01:01:17.740 into the text some but i don't think that it's contradictory but there's something you know

01:01:21.880 adam saying you know essentially saying i'd rather uh die with her uh than live with god

01:01:27.640 um and christ one of the temptations in the wilderness is you know that satan brings him up

01:01:33.840 to a high hill and shows him and i think this was probably more than just physical but a vision

01:01:39.200 shows him all the kingdoms of the earth and says i'll give them to you you know if you'll commit

01:01:44.760 idolatry, if you'll bow down and worship me. And it's not just idolatry of him worshiping

01:01:50.840 Satan, right? Substituting Satan for the Father. But in some sense, yes, it speaks to rule and

01:01:58.840 reign, authority, like I'll give these kingdoms to you, you will be their king, you'll rule over

01:02:03.800 them. But there's also a sense in which like Jesus came not to condemn the world, but in order that

01:02:08.520 the world might be saved through him, 1 John 3, 17, I'll give the kingdoms of the world and all

01:02:13.660 their subjects the peoples of the world and jesus did come he came for the people of the world to

01:02:19.040 ransom them behold uh the lamb of god who you know who um who uh is slain for uh for the world

01:02:26.160 and so jesus is coming for the peoples of the world and it's almost like satan saying i'll give

01:02:30.200 you that the very thing you came for i'll give it to you um but there's there's just there's another

01:02:34.800 path and and this is actually an easier path now the path is that you simply have to bow down and

01:02:40.540 worship me. It's an idolatrous path. But I will give you the people. And it's almost like Jesus

01:02:45.600 is posed with the same quandary, the same dichotomy that Adam was in the garden. I can die with her

01:02:52.660 or I can live with God. You know, die with her or live without her. Jesus is, by committing 0.99

01:03:00.760 idolatry, if he had, of course he didn't, bowing down and worshiping Satan, it's like, you'll get

01:03:05.920 the peoples of the earth. You'll get the kingdoms of the earth. You'll get to live with them.

01:03:09.260 but Jesus the difference is Adam is thinking I can either I can either die with her or live

01:03:15.600 without her the third option the one that Jesus takes is instead of I can die with the kingdoms

01:03:21.680 of the world my people will all ultimately perish because of idolatry apart from the Lord

01:03:26.000 I can either die with her my bride or live without her Jesus takes the option or instead of dying

01:03:32.760 with her I could die for her and that's like that's that's the gospel the gospel uh avenue

01:03:39.900 that that Adam either didn't see or didn't uh didn't have faith to believe that that would

01:03:45.700 have been possible and so it's and that's I think that's where we are today in many ways it's like

01:03:50.840 there's so many men the the you know the man with his tail between his legs who is not deceived he

01:03:56.340 sees these things with his eyes wide open he's opted for uh but I love her and we're not advocating

01:04:02.180 like we're not see the red pill is um yeah the problem that's the problem is that you love her

01:04:07.100 so just stop loving her yeah hate women yeah right use women um and we're saying no no no that's not

01:04:12.560 an option um and so you have the red pill that says you know um the problem is that you love her 0.60

01:04:17.860 stop it stop loving her and then you have the feminist men who many of them are not deceived

01:04:22.840 their eyes are wide open i love her so therefore i have to die with her but the third option for

01:04:28.740 the true patriarch the christian patriarch is um i'm not going to stop loving her and i'm not going

01:04:34.920 to in loving her die with her in loving her i'll die for her and part of that what that means that

01:04:41.700 that sacrificial death is um i'm going to love her at the cost of her not loving me at the cost of

01:04:50.240 she may hate me she may uh resent me she may revile me because she's deceived and under the

01:04:57.260 spell of the dragon she may not uh but i'm going to love her i'm going to speak the truth i'm not

01:05:02.680 going uh to simp uh for her i'm not going to bow down to her um i'm going to love so i'm not going

01:05:10.040 to in love for her die with her but i'm also not going to stop loving her in love for her i will

01:05:15.680 uh i'm not going to die with her i'm going to die for her but i won't that's the gospel picture

01:05:19.400 That is, and I'm 100% with you, but that's the heuristic that men need to check at the door.

01:05:29.000 The heuristic is I need to be willing to jeopardize this feeling that I have, whether it's sexual relations or peaceability around the homestead, for the first month or two or three when they're getting the power back.

01:05:47.000 because we also, my wife and I work as a kind of ministry

01:05:52.280 with couples that need coaching.

01:05:55.180 But women will, after they've been conditioned,

01:05:58.880 habituated is the Aristotelian term, 0.99

01:06:01.380 habituated to virtue this way,

01:06:04.200 it's what they naturally crave.

01:06:06.080 So it's not like a death of the rest of your natural life.

01:06:10.540 Right, right, right.

01:06:11.240 First, you need to be willing to give it up 100%.

01:06:13.520 That's what I'm saying.

01:06:14.300 I'm not saying it won't ever get better.

01:06:16.000 Yeah.

01:06:16.140 i'm not blackpilled they're sexually but i'm saying that just like christ there's a death

01:06:20.120 and then there's life forevermore there's a resurrection death is at the end of the story

01:06:23.700 exactly but uh but what i'm saying is that because we are so far off the rails and so many are uh

01:06:28.480 women are so deceived um you do get to uh the life everlasting after and that's the hopefulness

01:06:35.340 that your film contained the red pill has no hope there's no it's just hedonism but uh but there was

01:06:40.380 a hopefulness and so i'm not saying that so you have to die for the rest of your life i'm saying

01:06:44.840 I know you can get to beauty and health in your marriage, 1.00

01:06:50.060 but because feminism is so strong with the average woman today, 1.00

01:06:54.040 you can live happily ever after, but probably after a momentary death. 1.00

01:06:59.360 Exactly.

01:06:59.920 That's all I'm saying.

01:07:00.820 And my wife's book points this out, Ask Your Husband. 0.99

01:07:06.320 It's unusual, even more unusual for a woman to cheat on a man 0.98

01:07:09.440 than a man on a woman, a more unnatural vice. 1.00

01:07:12.760 but what women always do when they cheat is they have a simpy long-housed husband and it's one 1.00

01:07:20.800 that always tells them yes in the moment they want to be given controls over the purse strings or be

01:07:27.460 be invited to spend on whatever they want but what that does to their sexual attraction to not be 1.00

01:07:33.340 told no which is actually a natural aphrodisiac when we're considering what a woman's nature is

01:07:38.780 she she's attracted to a man that will tell her now is eventually she wants to find and she'll go

01:07:44.080 outside in some cases the marriage to find what she's sexually attracted to which is a delimiting 0.99

01:07:50.960 limit on her sovereignty her sovereignty um that's why women are attracted to bad boys or men that

01:07:58.140 will be a little bit mean to them i'm not suggesting that husbands should actually be

01:08:02.860 mean to their wives, but they should be delimiters. And so the whole point is just to put the cap on

01:08:09.140 there is a kind of happily ever after. If men choose to take the reins back, the reins of

01:08:17.240 power, it might be rough for a month or up to six months. But if a man really wants to do it,

01:08:24.260 he can get control of his marriage and your wife will be more sexually attracted to you once you

01:08:29.760 do that. That's what we tell the red pill all the time. Red pill says this doesn't work, and we're 0.89

01:08:34.080 like, you're claiming that nature doesn't work? I thought you guys are naturalists, man. I thought

01:08:39.240 you're like, you know, Bronze Age pervert or whatever, adjacent. We're the true naturalists,

01:08:45.840 the Christians, in this sense, men and women, intersexuality, and I think we have to reclaim

01:08:50.660 that boldly. Well said. And what role do you think other women, you think about the context of

01:08:56.500 marriage and you know a wife might have friends who are in her ear giving her sort of advice and

01:09:01.340 saying hey no actually this is how your husband should should behave like what's your perspective

01:09:05.680 on what role that actually has and sort of women feeding into this themselves and in their friend

01:09:10.520 group into this sort of uh this feminist mentality and sort of actually trying to go against their 1.00

01:09:16.340 natural as you put it their natural cravings and sort of natural desire within a relationship 1.00

01:09:21.360 It depends on temperaments, female, you know, women married friend groups, because it's such an age of toxic females, unless your wife is really one of those ones who she's been red, red pilled in a Christian way, patriarchy pilled, and she can really preponderate as a kind of leader or the loudest voice in the friend group, then it's going to be toxic and you're going to have to drown it out. 0.94

01:09:45.300 If she's having to hear from the rank-and-file, then we know what the rank-and-file is. 0.53

01:09:49.980 They're all Agent Smiths, right?

01:09:52.060 They're Matrix Agent Smiths. 1.00

01:09:53.620 Nobody hates women like women hate women. 1.00

01:09:55.360 No, it's true.

01:09:57.480 It's true.

01:09:58.020 They love to hate each other.

01:09:59.220 They'll give each other bad advice.

01:10:00.780 They do.

01:10:01.220 Oh, that looks great.

01:10:02.340 It looks terrible.

01:10:03.260 Right.

01:10:03.520 Yeah.

01:10:03.740 To destroy, because there's a sense of jealousy there. 0.99

01:10:06.760 Women friend groups do not have that bond that men do.

01:10:09.220 That's just how God's made the world.

01:10:10.800 It's a fact.

01:10:11.440 It's a fact.

01:10:11.900 That's why I'm saying, unless you have a really strong patriarchal woman, patriarchal in the sense that she loves her husband and she realizes what she is, a helpmeet in her essence, in her nature, as the head of the group of women, this is why I think an older woman, maybe with younger women, is biblical, as it expressly is in the Pauline passages.

01:10:37.020 it might be hard to have a female friend group that heads in a direction of travel toward patriarchy

01:10:45.320 if they're all peers, because there's just going to be so much peer pressure. 1.00

01:10:50.000 They're the great conformers, females, right? 0.92

01:10:52.620 And they're going to go with where the status quo is.

01:10:55.260 And right now, the status quo is being changed by guys like us four, but it's not changed yet.

01:11:01.840 And so, you know, that's the hedgy language I would use for female friend groups. 0.98

01:11:06.680 Yeah, I've said that several times that women are NPCs and not just like non-player character that they, you know, have no, no, you know, rationale or ability to think. 1.00

01:11:19.700 But NPC naturally pursuing consensus. Right. You know, and so like when you think like, what would it take for the average woman to change? 1.00

01:11:28.800 It actually doesn't require going and changing individual hearts and minds one at a time.

01:11:34.280 Now, we need to do that hard work on the ground with the individual women that God has entrusted to us, our wives, our daughters, so on and so forth.

01:11:43.100 But in terms of culturally, in the macro, you don't have to persuade all the women, you know, to agree to repeal the 19th Amendment, you know, or to, you know, to leave the workforce and go back home.

01:11:56.960 you know um what all you have to do is is you have to uh to win uh optically um the the battle 1.00

01:12:04.960 at the top level um and and women will like shockingly fast will just fall in line the 1.00

01:12:12.320 moment that it begins to seem as though like the momentum is on this side you know is the moment

01:12:17.040 that there seems to be critical mass the moment that like then women will be like oh yeah i believe

01:12:21.700 that i've always believed that yeah that's just who they are so that so but you know right now 1.00

01:12:27.660 because feminism reigns the day uh sadly uh you have that natural instinct of women naturally 1.00

01:12:33.660 pursuing consensus working in the wrong misordered direction working against us um but not just with

01:12:39.320 a friend group the thing that i i wanted to ask and bring up briefly is um especially in regards

01:12:44.840 to their family one of the most difficult things that um as i'm counseling you know uh young

01:12:51.700 married couples and that i've dealt with you know personally in my own experience is um you know

01:12:58.420 the command to honor thy father and mother um and coupling that with uh just the statistical reality

01:13:05.520 that uh the average woman even if she is persuaded and seeks to be um a patriarchal woman uh submitting

01:13:13.160 and obeying her husband her own parents will be actively seeking in many cases to dissuade her

01:13:19.240 her sisters her brothers her so she's gonna have all her family and it's not gonna be like uh we

01:13:25.940 love Lilith you know and no it's no it's gonna be we're concerned for you we love you and you know

01:13:32.920 you used to think this way and there were certain things about you that uh that we miss I remember

01:13:37.880 when you're a little girl you know you always wanted to be a veterinarian you know and I hate

01:13:42.040 to see it's it's your who you are is being eroded and erased and and i'm concerned for you i feel

01:13:50.180 like you're you're losing yourself like that's the language that's the frame that will be presented

01:13:55.720 and not just by friends um it'll be presented by parents it'll be presented by fathers it'll be

01:14:01.520 presented by sisters um and that's so tragic what do you how do you counsel um individuals in that

01:14:10.020 instance i'm so glad you brought that up because it's such a shrewd disclaimer don't expect it to

01:14:16.300 be lilith worshiping jewish feminists um yeah women who are i mean it will be but it won't

01:14:23.000 be said out loud that's behind the scenes that's wizard of oz stuff but now that there are we

01:14:28.200 didn't really get to this historically that the historical morphology is now there are christian 1.00

01:14:33.940 feminists everywhere. The host is infected, been infected by the parasite. And so now Christianity 1.00

01:14:41.420 just has all these feminists that don't even bother to call themselves feminists. And a lot 0.97

01:14:46.000 of them are conservative right-wing dads who think that they want powerful women to go to college

01:14:51.960 and be powerful conservative voices for Jesus. So it's really interesting. When I was theology

01:15:01.380 department chairman, eventually got fired in the crazy summer of BLM for a bunch of tweets

01:15:07.320 at a high school.

01:15:09.080 Based.

01:15:09.700 Thank you.

01:15:10.680 Yeah. 1.00

01:15:10.980 And attacking a number of other, you know, I think Islam's Jews, gays.

01:15:16.300 It was a summer, so it was weird to be fired, particularly a theology department chair. 1.00

01:15:21.820 But I would say this, the year before I got fired, the only complaints from parents I

01:15:28.080 God, and it was in California, but a relatively conservative enclave of that state in the

01:15:33.180 farming interior, it wasn't for saying things against Judaism, Islam, or the left as such.

01:15:42.500 It was for encouraging women to, if you have to go to college, get the MRS degree and get

01:15:49.860 out.

01:15:50.660 If your parents say, oh, remember when you used to want to be a veterinarian?

01:15:54.880 go take that first year and say dad look if you are still willing to pay the other three years

01:16:01.080 of college thanks could I use this for a down payment I found a goodly husband in my first

01:16:07.800 in my freshman year of college I don't want to go more into debt I don't want to waste money

01:16:11.500 because I'm not going to use this degree or it might take longer than that to find a husband

01:16:16.860 but hey a lot of girls have found a really high quality boyfriend senior year of high school and

01:16:24.020 they're being encouraged by their conservative fathers, Christian fathers, to flush this down

01:16:29.760 the toilet. And it's usually in those college years that guys and girls go off to college and 0.94

01:16:35.740 defile themselves and just run up their body counts and make themselves unmarriageable by

01:16:43.500 all decent measures. So it's really important that late high school kids and early freshman

01:16:51.340 year of college, kids know, well, I have this conflict of interest, given what my parents and

01:16:58.720 teachers and all of society is telling me, I feel young and fecund and fertile. And it's not

01:17:05.820 unnatural or premature for someone to date when they're 17 or 18, depending on prudential

01:17:11.300 differences. And once you're old enough to date, you're old enough to get married. And what parents

01:17:18.440 would get really mad at me for, conservative parents, was encouraging people to, you know,

01:17:23.900 as a Catholic, same as the Orthodox, we have vocation. Either get married, that's a vocation,

01:17:29.880 or pursue a, you know, the priesthood or religious life. Parents should not be blocking vocations,

01:17:36.660 and marriage is a vocation. So if you find a high quality boyfriend or girlfriend and you're 17 or

01:17:42.020 18, pursue marriage early. Not everyone finds that, but you don't need to live the Christian 1.00

01:17:50.480 life. You don't even need two college degrees, same as you don't need two incomes. And it's 0.99

01:17:55.060 actually sort of proscribed the more you look into it. Yeah. Well said. Let's do this. We wanted

01:18:01.360 to play a clip from the film. So we've already shown you the short version of the trailer,

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01:18:06.940 from the end of the film

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01:24:32.800 timothy phenomenal that clip um i just i mean what a woman is she is her husband's helpmate 0.84

01:24:46.920 made from his rib to guard his heart she is to wear she is to wear what he likes

01:24:54.000 she is to obey him in all things deferential and prudential um i'm listening to that and

01:25:00.200 I'm just thinking, I'm a Reformed Protestant, and I'm not ashamed of my tradition.

01:25:07.320 I am ashamed of my camp.

01:25:10.360 I'm not ashamed of the tradition.

01:25:12.200 I love the tradition.

01:25:13.820 But the people who are modern Reformed guys today who have influence and who are leading the way,

01:25:22.100 I'm watching that clip, and names of pastors with large platforms are just going through my head.

01:25:28.880 and i know and i'm not trying to be extreme or emotion i know that um not one of them would

01:25:35.660 ever ever produce a film with those lines in it never at best they they would do that and

01:25:44.160 immediately follow it up with 40 minutes of clarifications and how those lines don't really

01:25:49.680 actually mean what they mean you know and so they would either do it and then and then spend

01:25:54.940 the rest of their lives working to undo it or they just wouldn't do it at all or in most cases

01:26:02.320 to be brutally honest about reformed ministers today they would uh they would play that or i'm

01:26:08.340 sorry they wouldn't play they would actually produce volumes of books and podcasts and lectures

01:26:14.940 against that why a um why a woman in fearing the lord and seeking to be feminine absolutely does

01:26:23.980 not need to wear what her husband likes absolutely does not need to uh obey her husband in all

01:26:31.980 matters deferential and prudential um i mean that that's literally i like it's it's it's so on the

01:26:38.660 nose it's um it's insane like like there was there was a whole little controversy you know

01:26:46.720 within the reformed neck of the woods just just a few months back and it was on um uh does a husband

01:26:53.340 have a authority um to um to ask his wife to wear a red dress um you know and and we were the only

01:27:03.700 ones i there might have been like one other group of of some guys reformed guys that we appreciate

01:27:09.100 and we've partnered with uh other than the two of us we were like the only ones to say yes he does

01:27:15.840 it's not a sin to wear a red dress assuming it's not skimpy and immodest it's not a sin and as

01:27:21.940 provider and protector and head of the house if he um is providing for her you know um ideally

01:27:30.040 more than just one red dress you know so it's not like you have to wear the same dress every day

01:27:34.380 you know without it ever being washed or something but it's like hey i have seven red dresses and for

01:27:39.660 the foreseeable future i think that red speaks to you know there's something about beauty and roses

01:27:45.220 and femininity and the dress and the way that it flows and we have young daughters in the home and

01:27:50.620 I want them to see you in this. 1.00

01:27:52.420 We're swarmed by feminism. 1.00

01:27:54.160 I want to make a statement for the foreseeable future, 1.00

01:27:56.740 for my pleasure, first and foremost,

01:28:00.520 simply my pleasure, there's enough reason,

01:28:02.140 as your husband,

01:28:03.600 and second, for setting,

01:28:05.680 exemplifying godly womanhood for our daughters in the home,

01:28:08.660 and as a statement of the beauty

01:28:11.720 of patriarchal Christianity to the world,

01:28:14.720 for the foreseeable future, 0.99

01:28:16.620 I want you to wear a red dress every day.

01:28:18.680 and and that was that was the the case study and reformed minister after reformed minister

01:28:25.660 after reformed minister who pride themselves in being complementarian and we would never have a

01:28:32.360 woman you know as an elder um all came out saying a husband does not have that authority that is

01:28:38.160 abusive a wife in that situation you know she should go and and um she should actually run

01:28:44.040 and tell on her husband to the to the elders of the church wow um and and and i'm and i'm just

01:28:49.840 watching that and i'm thinking and it grieves me deeply grieves me i'm watching that and thinking

01:28:55.020 um there i i don't know any protestant tradition today i do historically but today uh that would

01:29:06.160 um that would have supported you in this film if like and not just because of the catholic stuff

01:29:11.260 Like if you had just produced this as a broader film and didn't really make it particularly Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant, I don't think you would have gotten any support from anyone but us.

01:29:25.580 Well, this goes back to the politeness contest we were having in the kitchen here when I was like, I thought Protestants were better on this, and you were like, I thought Catholics were better on it.

01:29:35.100 I was just appreciative for the... We had an Orthodox Jay Dyer in, and we used Rachel Wilson's 0.61

01:29:42.960 book. She's an Orthodox scholar, and I'm friends with Andrew and Rachel as well. But I'm appreciative

01:29:48.040 deeply to Father Chad, the exorcist, because you'll remember that one section in the film when he

01:29:54.820 runs through side-by-side Father Mike Schmitz, huge, huge podcast, Bible in a Year, and Father

01:30:02.760 mike schmitz runs through this circular square called mutual submission joel that i remember

01:30:09.060 that and father chad was like we had like a red x and father chad's like this is absurd here's why

01:30:14.220 then he went through another dimension of what father mike at ascension presents humongous

01:30:19.080 ministry was just saying false words false gospel and he said nope here's why that's wrong

01:30:24.000 um so we just appreciated anyone any christian that's willing to partner with us on this to

01:30:30.840 speak the truth to the emperor who's where who's nude claiming to be wearing new clothes and of

01:30:36.540 course a red dress if his husband likes it and it's it's modest then go for it or i would say

01:30:41.460 this if it's somewhat immodest but it's inside the house right you know that's another thing

01:30:46.940 that's um i mean what guys out there wouldn't if it would help the the marital act along wouldn't

01:30:54.820 wear a certain outfit for their wives this isn't even i'm not even i'm not an egalitarian i don't

01:30:59.920 believe in egalitarianism, but most guys would be willing to do this. Goodly women, godly women

01:31:05.000 are like, yeah, just help me pick out dresses. It's a fun Christmas tradition I have for my 0.94

01:31:11.520 wife is shopping for clothes. She loves the dresses I pick out for her. So it's really a shame that

01:31:18.460 there aren't more Christians, Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants. I was just talking to Andrew Wilson

01:31:25.400 in his house last night about how few Orthodox are willing to join them. I thought they were 0.74

01:31:30.100 better than Catholics, too, because I think we're the worst. We're each pointing inwardly. 1.00

01:31:35.560 But Christendom has just been overrun with feminism. And, you know, what about the men, 0.84

01:31:41.440 though, as Andrew calls it? What about the men? Well, you didn't even say what men are doing

01:31:45.300 wrong here. Or, yeah, should men really tell their wives what they're attracted to? Yes. 0.98

01:31:52.360 Yes. Another thing we got heavy pressure to take out of the film that, again, thank you to

01:31:56.940 CandaceOwens.com for not pressuring us to. I'd rather have the disclaimer than pressure

01:32:02.200 is to say that wives as well as husbands should aim to be thin. That was a big one that we weren't 1.00

01:32:08.700 expecting. I heard that little word there as I was playing. I was like, oh, snap. That was the main

01:32:12.920 one. That was great. We were like, look, I mean, I've gained some Christmas pounds myself. A lot

01:32:17.460 of people have this time of the year, but everyone, man and woman alike, I think especially women,

01:32:22.360 are aiming this time of the year to shave those off.

01:32:25.620 And body positivity is something we didn't talk about today,

01:32:28.400 but it's really, really, really, really, really diabolic and evil.

01:32:32.600 And so just anyone that watched this film and said,

01:32:35.180 yeah, full stop, the producer and the director of this thing,

01:32:39.900 Tim and Nick, wanted to get together

01:32:41.400 and make sure that everything is all the way to the hilt.

01:32:46.000 Any viewers that watched it

01:32:48.800 or people that are going to be intermediate passers-on

01:32:51.280 of the film like yourselves, Joel et al, that watched it and don't try to shave something off

01:32:57.880 like thank you. What we want is scriptural patriarchy. That's the only way forward for

01:33:02.760 society. It's going to crumble without it. Yeah. All right. Well said. So go watch the film,

01:33:09.940 pay the buck 99. It's at candaceowens.com. That's where you'll find it. And yeah, you should watch

01:33:16.760 it. Let's go ahead and do the super chats. Antonio, will you read the first? Yep. Dakota

01:33:20.800 Davis sent $5. We appreciate that. And so that's good morning. Should the church in Minnesota have

01:33:25.340 used physical force to defend themselves yesterday? How do the Beatitudes govern the

01:33:29.200 church when under attack? So I've given this a lot of thoughts. Our church, we have a pretty,

01:33:34.800 pretty heavy duty security team just because of my public presence and all the controversy

01:33:46.180 that I often find myself in.

01:33:48.960 And so, you know, for us, we have security, you know, waiting at the door.

01:33:54.020 I think the big problem, once they're in there, man, it's a mess.

01:33:58.040 It's a mess.

01:33:58.740 And so we have multiple security at the door.

01:34:01.940 And as soon as the service starts, so even a few minutes before,

01:34:06.400 the doors are all, they're locked.

01:34:09.420 And so nobody can get in.

01:34:10.780 And security is still standing, looking through the door, glass door.

01:34:14.080 and so they would not be able to uh to come in and they would be questioned if they're not

01:34:19.760 a member of the church that we recognize and they're coming late um you know like halfway

01:34:25.080 through the service or even just 10 minutes into the service at any point uh once the service

01:34:29.400 begins uh anybody who's trying to get through the door has to be recognized if not they're going to

01:34:33.700 be stopped and questioned so i think the the biggest thing the biggest problem that i saw with

01:34:38.320 that is how did they get inside to begin with? Your church doors should be locked. We're at war.

01:34:46.180 Your church doors should be locked once the service begins or a few minutes before or after.

01:34:51.260 You should have security the entire time there. We have earpieces for all of our security. Our

01:34:56.460 security, of course, are carrying. But in addition to that, virtually every man in the church is

01:35:01.380 carrying. I have body armor that I'm wearing. I have a shield that I am able to keep beneath

01:35:08.060 the pulpit i am carrying on my person um as well and um and security is constantly talking to each

01:35:14.680 other uh during uh during the service if there's anyone they don't recognize anybody that they find

01:35:19.620 to be suspicious so i think the biggest thing is keeping them out um and and if you had kept them

01:35:25.200 out then it requires them to actually try to break in actually trying to break down the door

01:35:31.280 um or push or shove and and that would you know uh their way in and then that i think would

01:35:37.120 you'd have a much better case of um of you know taking lethal means because if they're breaking

01:35:43.760 down the window or something like that um then i think you you would just you'd have a better case

01:35:48.560 now we're in texas um so we'd have an even stronger case in the state of texas with its uh its laws

01:35:54.380 you know castle laws and those kinds of things um but once they're in like we saw in the case of

01:35:59.800 minnesota one you're in a terrible state uh that is not going to favor you and you need to consider

01:36:04.460 that two um you somehow some way you did not guard the door and so now you have multiple protesters

01:36:11.900 who are in the sanctuary uh during the middle of the service this isn't before the service they

01:36:16.600 came in during the middle of the service on the lord's day they're in the sanctuary they're now

01:36:20.920 terrorizing children and women um and at that point you know to pull a gun out once they're

01:36:26.460 already in and and they're not actually touching you at that point see that like that's what you 0.64

01:36:31.680 That's what you would have to do in a nutshell.

01:36:33.680 You would have to set it up in such a way that they would have to use force to get in in the first place.

01:36:38.260 So then you could meet force with force.

01:36:40.560 But instead, they never had to use force.

01:36:43.300 And so it's really hard to make a case of self-defense because they just walked freely in and they're not touching anybody.

01:36:49.420 They're just shouting and filming and walking around, you know, and questioning.

01:36:53.420 And so then to meet that with force, especially in the state of Minnesota, you're like you're going to jail.

01:36:59.800 Tim Walz personally will be on his way to the church to lock you up.

01:37:03.220 Forever.

01:37:03.840 So my answer to this is you can't let them inside.

01:37:09.360 You should be locking your doors before the service,

01:37:11.860 not unlocking them until after the service.

01:37:14.900 If there's anyone who comes late to church,

01:37:16.940 they should be someone that you're able to recognize.

01:37:18.960 If they're not, then you need to be able to right there at the door.

01:37:23.840 It's locked.

01:37:24.720 They can't get inside.

01:37:25.900 You're able to ask them questions.

01:37:27.240 You can step outside.

01:37:28.100 if they try to push back now it's force um and and you can respond you can see if they're with

01:37:33.380 20 other people okay one person trying to come in maybe he missed directions 20 people with signs

01:37:39.040 whoa yeah and think about that this was uh they they came in the building after the service had

01:37:45.700 already started in the middle of the church service and not just one you know looking like

01:37:50.760 oh i'm just coming to hear the the word of god as a visitor and i just happened to be late

01:37:55.200 i got lost or something no a group of like 20 30 people halfway through the service they never

01:38:01.840 should have been able to get inside never so i and i just think that you know and i don't i don't

01:38:07.400 want to uh disparage this this precious church that's worshiping the lord and it's just been

01:38:12.660 through this ordeal so i'm not trying to pick on them but i'm saying uh i hope that this

01:38:19.060 wakes Christians up, and they realize, oh, we really are at war, and that they act accordingly.

01:38:27.980 No group of protesters should be able to get inside a church during the middle of the service.

01:38:33.700 So I don't know.

01:38:34.560 All right, we'll keep going.

01:38:36.880 The Edgerow Whistle sent $5 and says, welcome to the Wisdom White Beard Club, Joel.

01:38:41.460 It's coming in faster now after the last few months, and you've earned it.

01:38:44.520 We need a more based white beard rep.

01:38:47.260 When I first saw the Wisdom White, I thought it was Wilson White, like Doug Wilson and James White.

01:38:51.920 And I was like, oh, Wisdom slash White.

01:38:54.440 Here's the thing. 0.59

01:38:55.120 By the grace of God, I'm not a perfect man, not even close.

01:38:57.400 But by the grace of God, I've done a lot as Joel the Gray. 0.74

01:39:00.440 But I return to you now as Joel the White. 0.87

01:39:04.560 There we go.

01:39:05.360 How old were you, Joel, when you realized that you could grow the phenomenal beard?

01:39:10.080 So I was about four or five years.

01:39:12.400 tonight no it was actually i was 16 and uh when i was 16 i won a great battle no uh i was 16 years

01:39:21.720 old i was in high school and all my friends i know this is you know super gay but all my friends

01:39:27.260 were uh in one act play and so just to spend time with my friends and also i realized that i could

01:39:33.720 get out of like a class and one act play would count as uh one of one of the periods that i

01:39:38.800 could go to instead of going to something else that would be far worse and so i joined one act

01:39:43.080 play and one of the big reasons i did it was to spend time with my friends and secondly um because

01:39:48.700 i i realized that there was uh the principal had made an exception if anybody was on the drama team

01:39:53.660 and they were in one act play competing with other schools uh that they would be permitted because

01:39:58.100 there was a like no facial hair policy at the school but they could have uh an exemption and

01:40:03.800 so i was like you know like the only you know high schooler that was able to have a full beard and so

01:40:08.740 so that's why i joined one act play and uh you know and i was like i'm gonna see if i can grow

01:40:13.440 a beard i was 16 years old and i was like oh my have you ever shaved it since i can grow a beard

01:40:17.680 truly i yes i have i have shaved it but no i have never had really any long season of being smooth

01:40:24.980 faced you're like the james harden of like no one knows what you'd look like yeah i'll probably

01:40:32.580 never know think about this in heaven if he's resurrected with that beard all of eternity i'm

01:40:36.660 never going to know what clean-shaven

01:40:38.920 Joel looks like.

01:40:40.720 I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing.

01:40:42.620 Edger Whistle followed up with a $2

01:40:44.500 super chat to say,

01:40:45.720 thank you for your work and effort,

01:40:48.540 Timothy G.

01:40:50.060 Going to the next one, maybe we'll turn this to you,

01:40:52.480 Timothy. Justin Holt 2247

01:40:54.440 sent $5 and says, when does it go

01:40:56.600 from just helping with dishes and diapers

01:40:58.540 because that's loving my wife and she needs help 1.00

01:41:00.500 today, to a simp wearing a 1.00

01:41:02.420 metaphorical dress?

01:41:04.460 I would say that

01:41:06.660 If you want to see where these two parallel lines can be bent somewhere in eternity to meet justice and mercy around the household economy, I would say they can insofar as have your wife, because you're the master of ceremonies around your house as the man, have your wife tell you what's your least favorite chore. 1.00

01:41:30.960 This is what I did with Steph, and she's an amazing cleaner. 0.99

01:41:35.900 She's like a whirlwind cleaner. 1.00

01:41:37.640 She runs through with eight kids and cleans two or three times a day,

01:41:41.880 and it's fast, and we like to play video games, watch movies,

01:41:46.220 do things as a family once we get done.

01:41:48.840 So she's a whiz at cleaning really fast. 0.80

01:41:51.900 She's a good cook, but laundry. 1.00

01:41:54.840 Laundry's the bet noir.

01:41:56.460 So I just say, look, just don't beat yourself up on laundry.

01:42:01.600 We can all fold or, you know, you can fold, you know, once every week or something like that and do it in front of movies.

01:42:09.240 And sometimes I would help you there.

01:42:11.400 But it's important to rather than just take over the jobs yourself, which really does corrupt the economy.

01:42:20.900 You know, I'm not saying if she's sick or something like that, you can't do it.

01:42:24.160 But it ought to be that level of exceptionality.

01:42:26.920 Otherwise, you're corrupting the economy of the household, the way it works.

01:42:30.120 You go to work.

01:42:31.420 You don't ask her to go to work for you unless it's an extreme, extenuating circumstance.

01:42:37.180 I would just say be lax with maybe her least favorite chore.

01:42:43.440 But that's just one guy's impression.

01:42:44.960 The real answer is that prudential judgment or phronesis in the Greek is what you wield as a sword and as a shield, and so you can be as stringent or as lenient as you want to be.

01:42:59.640 I would just say your wife's probably your favorite person on earth, and to maximize time, you know, I'm not a slave driver, but you're not going to see me doing the dishes either way.

01:43:12.140 Also, that's why you have a lot of kids, so you can make them do children.

01:43:15.600 I was thinking about that.

01:43:17.060 I mean, it's different when the kids are itty-bitty,

01:43:19.380 but as the kids age, a husband can help his wife as master of ceremonies

01:43:25.720 by directing, commanding the children to help the wife.

01:43:29.620 Exactly. 0.86

01:43:30.540 Employing the children to help your queen.

01:43:34.700 Exactly.

01:43:35.520 Yeah, one of the shames we didn't even touch on in this episode,

01:43:38.260 but one of the shames, I guess, of modernity 0.95

01:43:40.060 is actually the eradication of the multi-generational household. 0.98

01:43:42.940 And you just think about the ways in which even 100 years ago, 0.69

01:43:47.020 a woman might be supported by the husband's mother or her own mother

01:43:52.100 or her sister who was unmarried, and the ways that, as that sort of eradicated,

01:43:56.900 even stay-at-home mothers, homemakers today, they don't have that support, 1.00

01:44:00.840 but they're still trying to fulfill that duty.

01:44:03.300 And so it obviously incumbent upon a husband to love his wife in a way of,

01:44:07.520 like you said, sort of arranging the household such that she's not overworked or flustered or

01:44:12.600 discouraged and those sorts of things. So Lord willing, we can regain that, I think, in the West

01:44:18.340 and see sort of a better balance, if you will. For several reasons. It's not a truly pro-life

01:44:23.880 culture. You know, you can't just eradicate abortion. You have to eradicate euthanasia and

01:44:28.460 the attitudes attendant to abortion and euthanasia. Usually that follows suit, but it's sort of pre and

01:44:35.100 post and uh and that that really is is best accomplished effectuated by having multi-generation

01:44:44.640 households so you can actually appreciate what the older generations can offer right now you're

01:44:49.280 kind of lying or larping if you're not raised with old people in the home if you're not just like 0.83

01:44:55.040 what what do old people do you need to be raised with with old people who can contribute to the 0.91

01:45:01.080 household and they contribute different things than a middle-aged father or mother do yeah well 0.89

01:45:06.780 said uh west go ahead and uh take us through uh the next couple all right wolf capital sent in a

01:45:13.060 20 super chat very generous thank you hidden said this great channel and discussion keep it up gents

01:45:18.240 thank you that one reply guy sent five dollars and then sent a second one that comes with a question

01:45:23.740 all caps he said love thee and uh there's going to be about five words here with a lot of letters

01:45:30.120 that I don't think quite belong.

01:45:32.100 Love the pose-ass guys.

01:45:34.440 He'll work.

01:45:34.980 Moving on.

01:45:35.600 One question.

01:45:36.120 Do you think it would be a good idea

01:45:37.160 to annex Canada?

01:45:40.000 I love the America as an imperial nation,

01:45:42.700 imperial empire idea.

01:45:44.040 We'll have to expand more on it sometime,

01:45:45.540 but there could be a time

01:45:46.480 where we rescue our Canadian brothers

01:45:49.540 and sisters up north,

01:45:50.780 but I don't think soon.

01:45:52.140 Yeah.

01:45:52.880 Yeah, not anytime soon. 1.00

01:45:57.800 You've got to get rid of universal suffrage.

01:45:59.800 you got to get rid of democracy you got it like i'm not uh excited about including you know 0.96

01:46:04.720 whatever it is 42 you know million libtards and uh 30 million indians another 12 million libtards 0.97

01:46:11.680 yeah into our our sacred democracy so you would have to you'd have to clean up some stuff annex 0.96

01:46:16.940 india annex canada what do you mean but yeah but canada as a province underneath an empire that

01:46:22.460 actually functions as an empire you know that's uh much more of a republic with some elements of

01:46:27.820 aristocracy and certainly not democracy i could you know i think that we could get there in the

01:46:33.880 meantime i think you just take whatever uh whatever we want from canada because they're not a real

01:46:38.200 country joel we were both i won't say what show it was it was a show where uh one guy is surrounded

01:46:48.240 by several other guys oh yeah we were supposed to appear on the christian nationalism yeah they

01:46:53.780 What happened with that?

01:46:54.860 They buried it.

01:46:55.540 They said there were going to be callbacks.

01:46:57.020 There weren't callbacks.

01:46:57.880 I guess they did it without us.

01:46:59.380 I think we figured out who was going to be surrounded. 0.93

01:47:03.240 And usually they want to get a dumber surrounding audience than the guy in the center. 0.96

01:47:07.120 And we were going to obliterate the guy. 0.97

01:47:10.060 It turned out to be James Tallarico.

01:47:11.840 We'd correctly used context clues to guess it.

01:47:14.260 So he's a Texas congressman.

01:47:17.260 You and I and some other really smart people were going to be surrounding him.

01:47:21.800 That would not have gone well

01:47:24.180 It would not have been well for him

01:47:25.540 I think that's why they did away with it

01:47:26.960 But I do want to talk about

01:47:29.320 The competing forms of Christian nationalism

01:47:32.060 With you at some point

01:47:33.320 Competing friendly like

01:47:35.060 Because I'm not an empire guy

01:47:36.780 I'm a small r republic guy

01:47:39.340 And even talking about 0.88

01:47:42.440 State establishments of Christianity 0.79

01:47:43.960 As a really realistic thing

01:47:45.900 Is a conversation for another

01:47:49.040 Yeah no we should talk about it

01:47:50.360 And I think there's, you know, there's a progression of, you know, like, in my view, there's a progression of how you get to certain, you know, later stages.

01:47:58.420 But right now, it seems like there's really a global, you know, worldwide return to nationalism.

01:48:05.560 And I think that that's good.

01:48:06.460 So I think the emphasis right now absolutely needs to be nationalism and any empirical elements.

01:48:11.780 I wouldn't want to see those at the expense of nationalism.

01:48:15.680 The difficulty is just that, like, right now, it's like we already have an empire.

01:48:20.360 both globally and in our our foreign you know influence but also um but also even domestically

01:48:27.220 like right now part of the problem is that uh you know people are like oh we don't want ethno

01:48:31.320 nationalism it's like okay you don't you don't want national nationalism okay like i don't know

01:48:35.120 what that means um and and so right now it's like we already are like a geographic geographically

01:48:40.380 concentrated empire like we have the nation of somalia right we have the nation of haiti we have

01:48:46.120 the nation of you know fill in the blank like we're not one nation that's why we have so much

01:48:50.600 division yes we have division ideologically and religiously like there are plenty of people who

01:48:55.240 are white as the driven snow and they are terrible you know it's like you know they're they're 0.54

01:49:01.200 demonic and you know like joe biden i i wish that i could find that he's actually jewish but as far 0.86

01:49:06.620 as i can tell the dude's just white and hates america you know and he's catholic and hates

01:49:10.580 christians oh exactly so you know so i i'm i'm the first to admit that you know that it's it's 0.97

01:49:15.840 not just um foreigners and it's not just jews um there are plenty of people they probably are 0.72

01:49:22.760 direct descendants of king alfred and are trying to destroy our nation but i think the point still 0.71

01:49:28.220 stands that we are um we're not a nation right now sadly we are a collection of different nations

01:49:33.860 so i think there's already this empirical element of we're trying to function and i think that's why

01:49:39.420 like at first we just need to achieve uh nationalism and like that's why we need mass

01:49:44.140 deportations ilhan omar should like somali there should not be in a somalian enclave inside these 0.98

01:49:51.740 united states you know so it's like we got to get all them out and get one one nation and uh one 0.92

01:49:58.040 ethnicity that's you know that's distinctly christian it's distinctly western it's distinctly

01:50:03.820 american it may not be one race um i don't think that it would be with our history and but uh but

01:50:09.540 it would be one ethnos and in those and those other senses uh but it would be still in the

01:50:15.060 racial aspect it still would be predominantly white and i think that that it should be predominantly

01:50:19.440 white um and so i think we've got to achieve that first and and then there could be conversations

01:50:24.620 about my contribution to that eventual conversation is just that um no conservatives now right-wing

01:50:31.780 based right-wing dissident right-wing normie are talking about political geography and political

01:50:37.500 geography is the missing component to the right-wing segment of right-wingers that want to

01:50:45.300 do away with pluralism, because I hate pluralism. You hate pluralism. We believe in a res publica,

01:50:50.700 meaning a public thing that we agree with. I'm not supposed to be able to coexist with someone

01:50:54.660 that believes in the Babylonian Talmud or the Quran or in nothing. I'm supposed to be able to

01:51:02.020 coexist only with other Christians and people that look like me and talk like me. But this is

01:51:07.900 not a reality if we believe that res publica can be a third of a billion people strong. If you want

01:51:16.760 to keep your little comic book club pure, only the true believers, you got to keep it small. If you

01:51:21.360 want to keep it small, you keep it pure. A third of a billion res publica never happened. So if you

01:51:26.780 study the ancient republics, I'm talking the Swiss cantons, who all of our founding fathers

01:51:33.700 looked to, lasted a thousand years. They're very small. If you talk about Venice, 1200 year long

01:51:40.300 republic, it was very small. England, before it became an empire and ruined itself by becoming

01:51:45.540 an empire, was just very small. Malta, you know, all of these lasted over a thousand years by being 0.93

01:51:52.280 small. And yes, I hate pluralism. I love unicity. I believe in a res publica, but it's got to be

01:51:57.560 small. That's why states' rights has got to be the center of an emerging Christian nationalism, 0.98

01:52:03.120 in my strong view. You'll get guys that say... No, I think that's a good point. 1.00

01:52:06.760 Think about guys that say, who's the most powerful country in the world? It's Israel. And it's like, 0.83

01:52:12.120 yeah, maybe. And think about how small they are. They're the size of New Jersey. So you don't need

01:52:17.900 to be geographically large to be powerful.

01:52:20.520 Also, Canada, huge geographically, very weak.

01:52:23.600 Mexico, geographic expanse.

01:52:26.800 It's a Federalist 10 lie that we borrow from James Madison,

01:52:30.360 and it's been very pervasive and very corruptive,

01:52:33.860 corrosive of American thought.

01:52:35.180 It's bad.

01:52:35.740 Political geography matters a lot.

01:52:37.560 That's a great point.

01:52:38.560 I think you're right, and I offer states' rights,

01:52:41.500 but I think that we're so divided at this point

01:52:43.720 and infiltrated that I think it would,

01:52:46.200 And it seems as though it would have to be more than states' rights

01:52:49.400 because I just don't think that California is ever going to agree with Kansas.

01:52:54.340 It seems like secession might be the only possibility.

01:53:01.580 And nationally, the Respublica should be something like the Nicene Creed,

01:53:05.000 which I think I first heard you say.

01:53:06.720 I've said that, yeah.

01:53:06.940 Yeah.

01:53:08.300 Each state is confessional to one sect of Christianity

01:53:11.940 the way original America was under the First Amendment, 0.70

01:53:14.960 nine of the 13. 0.82

01:53:15.980 It was Maryland that was Catholic, right?

01:53:18.000 None of them were confessionally Catholic.

01:53:20.160 Nine of the 13 were, there were just nine sects of Christianity, Protestant Christians.

01:53:26.880 Maryland was almost close enough to be one, but only four of the states after the First Amendment were not creedally, confessionally one.

01:53:34.380 So have one, each state have its official establishment of religion, which the First Amendment actually guaranteed the right of until 1947.

01:53:43.180 and um then yeah be united by at the national level that's that's been my thought is national

01:53:49.320 level would not be confessional but rather would be creedal yeah and so it would be you know

01:53:52.940 apostles creed nicene creed things that both protestants and orthodox and catholics can all

01:53:58.060 agree on i love it you don't have a conflict from the national level to the state level

01:54:01.760 and then states could be more particular and you would have you know you would have states that

01:54:05.980 were catholic you'd have um i don't know if the eo guys could even get one state i don't know if

01:54:11.280 Rhode Island?

01:54:12.400 One city?

01:54:13.720 Yeah, but maybe you have one state that's EO,

01:54:17.300 and you'd have a few at this point that are Catholic.

01:54:20.280 And then with the Protestant ones,

01:54:22.340 one would be Presbyterian, one would be Anglican,

01:54:25.080 one would be, you know, so on and so forth.

01:54:27.220 Okay.

01:54:27.820 I love it.

01:54:28.520 Great, let's keep going.

01:54:29.860 P.O. Andrews sent $5 and asks,

01:54:32.340 how do I effectively support the Christian patriarchy

01:54:35.040 at the office, especially with female bosses? 1.00

01:54:38.060 You tell it, don't. 0.99

01:54:39.800 Go ahead, Timothy.

01:54:40.660 don't get fired hide your power levels yeah i mean at this point the way that hr infiltrated as

01:54:48.740 the um sword and the shield of of feminism in the workplace so it's really really hard at this point

01:54:58.120 until we get females out of the workplace more predominantly so basically keep your job and 0.98

01:55:06.780 And don't do anything that's undignified, but there's really no benefit in pretending that HR is not buying for females and that the workplace is not gynecratic because like all the rest of the public spaces in America, it's completely gynecratic. 0.99

01:55:26.080 So you have to cover your six first. 1.00

01:55:29.440 Focus on your home.

01:55:30.780 Once you go home, everyone, it doesn't matter how, as a Catholic or an Orthodox or a Protestant,

01:55:38.400 it doesn't matter how liberal or feminist your preacher or your bishop is,

01:55:42.940 you can always take the power back in your home. 0.73

01:55:45.820 And that's where, read the case for patriarchy or ask your husband or any of Joel's suggestions.

01:55:52.900 Tend to that first.

01:55:54.100 That's the real oikonomia. 0.91

01:55:55.420 that's your home and worry about the workplace later you're just there to earn a buck um you 0.66

01:56:02.100 know you don't need to make it's not a real uh patriarchal household anyway it's not a true

01:56:06.840 economy of its own yeah i don't think it's changing the workplace i think if anything it's

01:56:12.160 getting your home in order and then bringing uh reattaching work back to the home right to have

01:56:16.860 productive households so i would say the solution there is not to convince uh the ceo of your

01:56:22.380 fortune 500 company to be patriarchal i think the solution is um try to uh to free yourself from the

01:56:28.240 plantation and to work for yourself try to you know be your own employment and then be able to 1.00

01:56:33.540 have your family as a part of that like the progress 31 woman you know that's constantly 1.00

01:56:38.000 perverted and you know it's like oh look she's a she's a boss babe she's you know she's buying a 1.00

01:56:42.740 field yeah with whose money you know like you know and like even when she's buying a field and you 1.00

01:56:47.420 Oh, she's a real estate tycoon. 1.00

01:56:49.320 No, no, she's not. 1.00

01:56:51.360 But I would say that get your home in order.

01:56:54.880 Don't try to persuade your business, but rather try to start a business. 0.98

01:56:58.840 And this glorious, godly woman who did have some elements of, you know, she was industrious, but she's industrious working for her husband. 0.99

01:57:11.000 Her husband is her boss, and she's working underneath.

01:57:14.560 So you can bring your wife and children into the family business, you know, and at different, you know, capacities that are fitting domestic feminine role and the role of children and so on and so forth. 0.78

01:57:26.820 So rather than convincing your job to become patriarchal, make your home patriarchal and bring your job to home if you can.

01:57:34.020 Yeah, and I'll just speak to this because I just recently had come from this context not that long ago. 0.84

01:57:38.780 And I would say, just to get really practical, too, when you're in that context surrounded by women, there are all sorts of little compromises you can avoid making, whether it's the passive aggressiveness and the gossip and those conversations that just naturally happen in that sort of office context. 0.97

01:57:55.580 Just avoid them. 0.99

01:57:56.440 And I would say even to be positive about it, bring a masculine presence, right?

01:58:00.720 Yeah.

01:58:00.940 If you do nicotine pouches, pop a nicotine pouch in during a meeting or something like that.

01:58:06.040 Demonstrate. 0.97

01:58:06.580 Pop a Zimbabwe. 1.00

01:58:07.500 Right, right. 0.95

01:58:08.480 It's, it's, it's just those little things to say in the Zen is prayer, right?

01:58:12.860 But also don't use in their game.

01:58:16.120 Use, use something that's a little bit better.

01:58:18.640 Fair enough.

01:58:19.020 Yeah.

01:58:19.260 So I would just, I would just say, uh, set an example, um, for even for, if it's just

01:58:23.780 younger men or men around you to say, Hey, look, I'm not afraid to show up, roll up my

01:58:27.540 sleeve and say, Hey, I'm a man and I'm not going to play the game.

01:58:30.820 And now obviously be shrewd about it.

01:58:32.360 There are different contexts. 0.99

01:58:33.260 You might have a, an, an overly passive aggressive female boss, for example, and you, you got

01:58:37.820 to play your cards right i would say like my context i had a fair bit of latitude in terms

01:58:41.600 of not having a direct boss if you will but but um yeah i would say um i would say just don't make

01:58:46.820 those little compromises that day day in and day out you're going to see sort of other people

01:58:50.680 sort of engaging in and making amen people like joel how do you do it how do you produce so much

01:58:55.520 content well who little do you know right now i'm rocking 24 milligrams as we speak all right

01:59:01.960 most people would be dead all right kyle sent in a 12.77 super chat not sure the significance of

01:59:09.360 that and asked what needs to happen for the church tradition of head coverings for women to be

01:59:13.940 commonplace we've talked about this some this is so good so i i wrote um dale partridge you may not

01:59:19.360 be aware of him he wrote a book called cover for glory and and i had the privilege of writing the

01:59:23.840 forward to that and have held the the head covering position for probably about five years now i'm

01:59:29.020 curious i assume that you're a head covering guy what yeah i'm a latin mass catholic i go to the

01:59:34.300 tlm you know i attend the tlm as often as i can on sundays which the nearest one is new orleans

01:59:40.760 and uh you always veil all of my i have seven daughters and a wife my daughters are always

01:59:46.920 they're covered yeah they're they're veiling and they're not considered weird it's the norm

01:59:51.320 at the uh tridentian latin mass if we do go inside to a novus ordo that's a post vatican

01:59:58.020 to mass uh they're always veiling and it it looks weird to the the normies at the novice ordo there

02:00:03.860 but but it's um it's it's biblical to veil so biblical yeah it's uh it's funny that you know

02:00:11.700 we're in texas you know god's country or at least it was you can absolutely mess with texas sadly

02:00:16.400 today but once upon a time uh but still there's the remnants of that uh tradition and culture and

02:00:21.720 you know you're at a football game and they pray before the game and all the men take off their

02:00:25.500 hats why right so like we've kept one half right so the man is you know it's it's shameful for a

02:00:31.120 man to cover his head when he's praying but but then we say oh but that's radical you know to uh

02:00:36.180 to do the reverse the man should not cover right and the woman should and it's it's funny that we've

02:00:41.200 kept one piece but not the other and uh and the piece that we've kept is the one pertaining to 0.92

02:00:46.200 man uh and the piece that we've you know left behind that we find offensive is the one pertaining

02:00:51.420 to women, which, again, just I think

02:00:53.040 highlights our whole point here of

02:00:55.160 how

02:00:56.220 taken we have been by

02:00:59.420 feminism.

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02:01:33.560 Timothy, you know everything.

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02:01:40.340 No, that would be UAE.

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02:01:56.720 Okay, you got it.

02:01:57.540 Yeah, you called that.

02:01:58.120 Sorry.

02:01:58.480 It's 0.27 US dollars.

02:02:00.900 So it's about $27.

02:02:02.620 Very generous.

02:02:03.940 L.R. Nicholas.

02:02:04.920 Oh, because it's 100 of them.

02:02:06.340 100 of them.

02:02:06.940 It's 100 of them.

02:02:07.440 Oh, wow.

02:02:07.880 Okay, okay, okay.

02:02:08.900 I thought you were saying it's 27 cents.

02:02:10.900 No, no.

02:02:11.820 Every individual one is.

02:02:12.960 Thank you.

02:02:13.300 We appreciate it.

02:02:13.900 Okay, and they said this.

02:02:15.360 I am a Gen X female, married 35 years, praise God,

02:02:18.660 to a wonderful man, and I 100%

02:02:20.760 agree with the Christian ideal

02:02:22.640 of what a woman is. I wish your channel didn't 0.99

02:02:24.680 put alcohol as part of the set. Alcohol

02:02:26.600 does more harm than good.

02:02:28.580 Very kind comments up front. I want to say thank you for that.

02:02:30.840 Very kind. We appreciate God a lot. And praise God for your marriage.

02:02:32.660 Awesome. Your generosity and all

02:02:34.740 that kind of stuff. And I'm not going to

02:02:36.180 bash you.

02:02:38.640 I'm not Nick Fuentes.

02:02:40.740 So Nick Fuentes would not have the alcohol,

02:02:42.640 but he would also bash you for

02:02:44.440 your super chat. He hates

02:02:46.760 his own followers very often.

02:02:48.140 we we try not to do that um i i appreciate that and to be fair you're not the only person who's

02:02:53.540 made that comment um we do think that there's an inherent goodness uh it's not just that well

02:02:58.060 alcohol is is inherently bad but if you're very very careful and it's only a drop then you know

02:03:02.700 then it can be permissible um i would argue much further than that and say that um it's not just

02:03:07.580 only permissible but there is a goodness god made grass for for the cattle bread for man's stomach

02:03:12.120 I can whine for the gladness of his heart.

02:03:14.480 And so I would actually say that we are,

02:03:17.760 if my only two options were pro or against,

02:03:20.220 for or against, I would say that I am for pro-alcohol

02:03:23.800 and absolutely against the abuse of alcohol.

02:03:27.040 Whether or not it should be a part of your design

02:03:28.960 and your set, I think is debatable.

02:03:31.080 And even though I think we're in the right

02:03:34.320 and I can make those arguments from the scripture,

02:03:37.020 because every single live stream and episode we do,

02:03:40.400 I don't want to start with a 20-minute teaching on the inherent goodness of alcohol.

02:03:44.280 We may eventually get rid of it just so that people stick around.

02:03:47.700 We're going to put it on the table so they won't see it behind us.

02:03:49.160 I think you're wrong, respectfully.

02:03:50.640 I would say I think you're wrong to be turned off by it.

02:03:53.040 But if a great number of people are turned off by it, even if they're wrong,

02:03:56.960 I would hate to miss out on being able to reach them.

02:03:59.440 So I say all that to say thank you for your comment, and we'll give it consideration.

02:04:03.860 Timothy, I'm going to kind of combine these two.

02:04:05.520 You can read it on screen just to be respectful to the platform that hosted your documentary.

02:04:09.600 Two Super Chats from Captain Arrow.

02:04:11.280 They asked, why did you release the film on Candace Owens' website?

02:04:14.400 And they just mentioned, for example, that she works publicly with kids in the home.

02:04:18.380 A few answers to the question, why do you use an iPhone or an Android instead of building your own?

02:04:25.380 You know what I mean? 1.00

02:04:26.460 Literally, Catholics will do this often. 1.00

02:04:29.600 They'll criticize me if I have a Starbucks in a thing. 1.00

02:04:32.180 I also produce a lot of content, and it gets tiring.

02:04:34.840 You need something like coffee is what I requested when I got here.

02:04:39.600 And it's trifling to complain about someone, I guess, materially cooperating with a corporation they disfavor.

02:04:52.000 And to do so, you have to write it on your Google, iPhone, your Gmail, on YouTube, and they don't get the joke.

02:04:59.360 So we cooperate with people. 0.61

02:05:01.900 And I'm not saying Candace is...

02:05:04.140 Equivalent to Apple.

02:05:05.020 Yeah, I'm not even throwing her under the bus.

02:05:07.480 I'm just saying you don't like Candace, but you typed this on YouTube or Google or Gmail or

02:05:13.380 something. Candace has a differing view on how the assault on feminism ought to go. I would say, 1.00

02:05:22.080 I would hope she's coming around and coming the full circle, which would involve things like

02:05:27.800 not working at all. But she, like me, is a Roman Catholic, and the age-old teaching on feminism, 0.99

02:05:34.160 which is quite robust that most Catholics are embarrassed now,

02:05:37.900 embarrassed by the embarrassment of riches in our papal teachings,

02:05:41.000 is that, as Joel was insinuating earlier, home place work,

02:05:45.520 working in what's called the curtilage traditionally,

02:05:48.580 wife and kids helping the husband to raise money at a farm is entirely licit.

02:05:55.800 Licit, not illicit.

02:05:57.720 So she works from home, and even Nick Fuentes said,

02:06:02.960 right after, you know, they finished the interview, she bolted, she had to go do baby

02:06:07.060 care. So it's, I don't know. I'm not a micromanager. She's not my wife, but she's the

02:06:14.200 host. So the first part of the answer is because it's like the largest podcast platform I could

02:06:19.820 get it on. That's reasonably right wing. And the other one is we brought it to Tucker Carlson.

02:06:28.120 It was very interested for a while. We actually brought it to Daily Wire. We said, do you want

02:06:32.320 to run this as a sequel we're not going to change any words and they said no but we showed it at

02:06:37.340 daily wire brought it to the blaze um and among these normie places and tucker's not a total normie

02:06:45.340 they all said no um candace had the chutzpah to go for it so thank you candace i people people

02:06:53.920 love to pick knits but until you actually and i'm not a movie maker by training i'm a trained

02:06:59.600 Thomistic philosopher. I studied in Europe. So to engage in making a movie took years off of my

02:07:05.380 life. It's a huge undertaking. We got tons of hate for it. You know, Wall Street Journal came after

02:07:12.460 me and Vogue magazines come after us. So I'm just happy to have it someplace where you can go watch

02:07:19.600 it. That's the answer. And Candice does not work outside of her home. Yeah, her studio is in her

02:07:25.380 You know, you and I, we hold the same position on that.

02:07:28.520 We appreciate the things that Candace has said,

02:07:31.580 but we both say, yeah, ideally we prefer for you to just be a mom. 0.98

02:07:35.580 Yep, of course.

02:07:36.460 And so we both agree on that.

02:07:38.440 But I do think, you know, people view this as like some,

02:07:41.540 as though it's a sign of hypocrisy, like it's a gotcha, and it's not.

02:07:46.700 This is not, it's important for people to understand.

02:07:49.180 There's a difference between a double standard and two standards, right?

02:07:53.040 so it's not um it's not a double standard like so uh here's here's a set of two different standards

02:07:58.660 in in my home uh in my marriage between my wife and i um my wife and i we have a standard that

02:08:06.100 when we're in the bedroom alone at home we're allowed to be naked and we have a standard that

02:08:11.540 when the two of us are in public we're not oh hypocrite double standard yeah oh no just not 1.00

02:08:19.500 being retarded you are stupid individual think about this think logically and stop being stupid 1.00

02:08:26.080 it is not a double standard it is two separate standards for two separate contexts right and so 1.00

02:08:33.220 here's the deal um do you want to have boss babe you know so and so on your platform in your house

02:08:41.320 in your studio um and and you know pushing her forward and that kind of no i think that would

02:08:48.360 hypocritical holding the views that we do about biblical patriarchy however if Fox News it'll

02:08:54.940 never happen because it's Fox News but just hypothetically if Fox News called me up and said

02:09:00.060 hey you know hand me that real quick Wes you know we heard about your book the hyphenated heresy

02:09:07.060 Judeo-Christianity right so Fox News again it's hypothetical they're never going to happen yeah

02:09:14.980 But if they called me up and said, man, I heard about you and Jordan Hall's book, The Hyphenated

02:09:19.900 Heresy, and it's getting great reviews on Amazon. It's, you know, it's climbing the charts, and it

02:09:25.060 is. Praise God. We're like two weeks in, and we've sold over 2,000 copies. I think it's number one

02:09:29.660 on historical theology right now on Amazon for new releases. It's number two, I think, on

02:09:35.700 conservatism and politics. And so if I got that call from Fox, and they said, we want you to come

02:09:42.320 on uh one of our news shows and uh and and talk about the book and why it matters and how it's

02:09:48.440 important and then i find out you know with the follow-up uh that uh the new show that i'm going

02:09:53.400 to be going on is uh led by a female anchor news anchor uh i'm going on the show i'm going on the

02:10:00.860 show and that is not hypocrisy that's not a double standard that's not the same as me hitting up you

02:10:07.720 know meg kelly or something and say hey will you come on our show um i've got something to say 1.00

02:10:12.900 but i'm i'm kind of afraid to say it and i need a blonde white chick you know to to be there for 0.95

02:10:19.800 moral support and to say it for me that's very different than i've got something to say i can

02:10:25.200 only reach so many people with my platform your platform is gargantuan i disagree with the basic

02:10:31.280 premise but this is the way that the world is and so i'm going to go on your plot platform

02:10:35.860 and humbly accept your generous offer

02:10:39.680 and use that strategically for the glory of God

02:10:42.140 to get truth out to as many people as possible

02:10:45.280 in the same way that we are right now using YouTube,

02:10:50.260 even though, yeah, the people who head up YouTube,

02:10:53.980 we have profound disagreements with.

02:10:56.420 We're using whatever.

02:10:59.200 So that's not a double standard.

02:11:01.200 People got to stop doing that. 1.00

02:11:02.580 Stop being stupid. 1.00

02:11:03.660 stop uh well uh you know you you would go on so and so's platform um and she's a woman and so 1.00

02:11:09.900 therefore you're not really patriarchal no um i i will be naked in my bedroom at home and i'm not

02:11:17.480 naked in public i will um go on someone else's platform publicly even if i disagree with them

02:11:25.560 i will not have them on my platform two separate contexts so it's not a double standard it's two

02:11:32.840 standards two standards but not a double standard surely we can understand that so all right that's

02:11:38.820 great yeah all right last one here from glenn lawrence uh they sent ten dollars and say shout 0.66

02:11:43.920 out to the homie tim gordon and the whole nxr studio crew for doing the lord's work standing 0.85

02:11:49.000 on truth and fighting back against feminism amen thanks for the thanks glenn yeah glenn's a good 0.89

02:11:54.940 dude yeah he's a good dude um all right let's end it like this uh timothy tell people where they can

02:12:00.320 follow you. One more time, where to watch the doc, but also where they can follow you,

02:12:04.480 because you live stream, you do a bunch of stuff. Yeah, so I'm on YouTube three times a week,

02:12:10.020 and that's at Timothy Gordon. The show is called Rules for Retrogrades. It's general,

02:12:15.120 far right-wing stuff, right-wing stuff from a Catholic Christian perspective, but it's a lot

02:12:21.260 of culture and politics. So that's on YouTube. You can follow me on Twitter or X, if you will,

02:12:28.040 at Timotheology, T-I-M-O-T-H-E-E-O-L-O-G-Y.

02:12:34.160 And the documentary is on CandiceOwens.com,

02:12:37.640 and it's going to be free for two days or maybe only 36 hours.

02:12:41.400 If you need that $1.99 that much, if it's blood money or rent money,

02:12:45.700 on February the 4th and 5th, I believe, are those dates.

02:12:49.760 They're going to be absolutely free.

02:12:51.400 I hope Candice will talk about the free days coming up here.

02:12:54.440 Yeah, I hope so.

02:12:54.800 Yeah, I hope she promotes that.

02:12:56.420 All right, well, thank you so much.

02:12:57.400 I'm honored to be hanging out

02:12:59.800 with three legit patriarchs

02:13:01.580 there aren't that many and there need to be

02:13:03.240 it needs to be completely ubiquitous

02:13:05.880 and that's what we're all trying to do

02:13:07.280 ubiquitize Christianity

02:13:09.640 and patriarchy 0.97

02:13:10.500 thanks for tuning in and Lord willing

02:13:13.620 we will see you guys for sure on Wednesday

02:13:15.700 that will be I believe

02:13:17.400 episode 4 of the Nick series now

02:13:19.780 so if you're keeping up with that

02:13:21.260 that'll be episode 4 of the series

02:13:23.840 with Nick Fuentes I believe

02:13:25.200 that particular episode is on calling out conservative grifters and so we uh we get into

02:13:31.420 some of the guys who are you know conservative but at the end of the day are still ultimately

02:13:36.220 subjected to liberalism and the heart of liberalism we would argue is egalitarianism

02:13:41.320 egalitarianism needs to be rooted up all the way down um johnny and and jimmy are not the same at

02:13:47.000 the individual level not all people are the same uh johnny and jackie are not the same you know

02:13:51.780 sexual egalitarianism, and even racial egalitarianism. We also believe that God created

02:13:57.920 races, and there are distinctions, and there should be benevolence and love. But again,

02:14:02.700 egalitarianism at every level, whether it be sex, whether it be gender, whether it be at the

02:14:07.780 individual level, whether it be race, is a lie. And many, many, many conservatives today,

02:14:15.540 conservative pundits, may sound conservative in some aspects, but at the end of the day,

02:14:19.980 they are liberals and if we're going to win liberalism seems as though it's the final boss

02:14:25.380 and so uh nick and i myself are addressing that in uh the episode for wednesday that'll be 12 p.m

02:14:31.740 uh eastern time and we may or may not we'll decide but uh we may actually do um a a bonus

02:14:38.620 live stream tomorrow at 12 p.m uh eastern time to uh to talk about and i'll just i'll just frame

02:14:44.720 like this uh it would be uh homosexuality polygamy and interracial marriage would be the topic and

02:14:51.240 breaking those down they're distinct they're different um but breaking those down and uh and

02:14:55.900 really kind of building an argument against biblicism we're bible guys we love the scripture

02:15:01.120 but against biblicism and really trying to carve out uh theologically this category of um i think

02:15:08.800 you know the apostle paul in first corinthians all things are permissible but not all things

02:15:12.400 are beneficial and so um it is it is not just that uh you know permissibility you could say it

02:15:18.400 is as concisely as this permissibility does not eradicate prudence permissibility does not

02:15:24.620 eradicate prudence and um and so we're going to do an episode um uh maybe tomorrow on that topic

02:15:31.900 if not then we'll have to bump it to friday so thanks for tuning in make sure to subscribe to

02:15:35.800 the youtube the rumble follow us on x again my handle is at joel webin you'll be able to follow

02:15:40.320 everything that we do on X and we will see you Lord willing either Tuesday or Wednesday. God bless.

02:16:10.320 Thank you.

The NXR Podcast - January 19, 2026

NXR Livestream - A Godly Woman Wears What Her Husband Wants W⧸Timothy Gordon @rulesforretrogrades

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