The NXR Podcast - January 19, 2026


NXR Livestream - A Godly Woman Wears What Her Husband Wants W⧸Timothy Gordon @rulesforretrogrades

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Matt Walsh's documentary "What is a Woman?" is a gem! What does it mean to be a woman and why does it matter what a woman is called a woman? What is a woman for and why is she a woman, and what is her purpose?

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00:00:00 So we've answered the question, what is a woman, right?
00:00:04 Matt Walsh did his documentary. 0.71
00:00:05 It's ridiculous that something like that even had to be done,
00:00:08 but he did a good job.
00:00:09 We're grateful for that work.
00:00:10 The answer to that question is simple. 0.94
00:00:12 What is a woman? 1.00
00:00:13 It's an adult female human being. 1.00
00:00:15 All of humanity has known this forever until people decided to be retarded, 1.00
00:00:20 and not just retarded, but ultimately wicked. 1.00
00:00:22 It's absolutely a deceitful suppression of the truth. 0.96
00:00:26 Romans chapter 1, suppressing the truth and deeds of unrighteousness.
00:00:30 And so something like that actually became merited.
00:00:33 It became needed to do a documentary, What is a Woman?, to thwart off the ridiculousness
00:00:40 and the deceit of our time.
00:00:42 But there's a deeper question that is burning, that must be answered, not merely what is
00:00:47 a woman, but what a woman is.
00:00:50 That's the deeper question. 0.99
00:00:51 Or to pose it a different way, you could say, What is a woman? 1.00
00:00:53 the other question what is a woman for or why is a woman why is a woman why does she exist how did
00:01:02 God make her what is her purpose and so there's a new documentary that is fantastic my wife and I
00:01:08 we actually watched it last night and it's not just good because I agree with it theologically
00:01:13 and these things from the scripture it was incredibly well produced I've seen several
00:01:19 documentaries and this would be up there. I don't want to be exaggerated. I don't want to use
00:01:24 hyperbole. I would say easily in the top five in terms of just production value of documentaries
00:01:30 I've ever seen. Really, really well done. My wife was tearing up. Now, that's not saying a whole lot
00:01:38 because she is, after all, a woman. And so she was getting teary eyed at some of the, you know,
00:01:43 the touchy points of, you know, romance and love between a husband and his wife. But it was a
00:01:48 phenomenal documentary and i have to admit as a protestant i kept watching it and there was a
00:01:53 sense in which i i was grieving uh because there were certain lines throughout the film uh that i
00:02:00 thought i'm the only protestant i know who would be willing to say this maybe maybe one or two others
00:02:06 um they they address things not just um well a wife submits to the spiritual headship of her
00:02:13 husband but in you know that's in theory in practice what does that look like well it means
00:02:17 over the course of a 50-year marriage that, you know, anytime they disagree, they have to go and
00:02:22 talk to their pastors first, you know, and if their pastors are a direct, you know, tie, you know,
00:02:26 they have four elders and two are on one side and two are on the other, then they have to sit and
00:02:30 pray and fast, and if they ever get to a point where, you know, the voice of God or the voice
00:02:35 of the elders or this, that, and the other is just a perfect split 50-50, then instead of flipping a
00:02:41 coin, then, you know, the complementarian, you know, headship of the husband comes into play.
00:02:46 in other words what is the headship of a husband what does it mean absolutely nothing that's how
00:02:52 a lot of guys who salute they give you know they tip the hat to male headship federal headship
00:02:59 that's how a lot of them at the end of the day that's what they actually believe it means
00:03:04 nothing it's theoretical it's the husband has no real tangible authority in practice but this
00:03:11 documentary did not toe that line. This documentary without apology, without being ashamed, but also
00:03:19 without being cruel or capricious, but in beautiful language from the scripture and from testimonies
00:03:24 of both men and women pointed towards and exemplified, esteemed the beauty of male headship
00:03:32 and womanly domestic feminine submission. They use the word multiple times, and I was shocked,
00:03:40 pleasantly shocked but they used the word did not shy away from it obey he said obey she obeys
00:03:46 her husband they even quoted uh certain church fathers and saying that um we know that when it
00:03:52 comes to all human authority human authorities can err human authorities are not infallible
00:03:58 so whether it's a civil father over citizens or whether it's you know father and mother over
00:04:03 children or whether it's ecclesiastical fathers bishops pastors you know in the realm of the church
00:04:08 we know that no matter who we are, a wife to her husband or children to their parents or citizens
00:04:14 to civil fathers or congregants to church leaders, we know that any time a human authority commands
00:04:21 that which God forbids or forbids that which God commands, then we are not called to submit or
00:04:26 obey. But one of the lines in this documentary was quoting, it was phenomenal, it said,
00:04:32 in all things deferential or prudential all things deferential or prudential because the
00:04:39 the bottom line is there are many things in the scripture we're not biblicist we love the bible
00:04:44 and it is the supreme authority but we're not biblicist meaning um i don't have to have chapter
00:04:49 and verse in the new testament uh to uh to dissuade me from drinking uh water out of the
00:04:56 toilet i can use prudence and reason and natural law and come to these conclusions knowing that
00:05:02 there is no contradiction with the scripture whatsoever. And the reality is between husband
00:05:07 and wife in the context of marriage, there are a million daily decisions happening on a moment
00:05:13 to moment basis where there's not a chapter and verse. It's not something that God explicitly
00:05:18 commands or explicitly forbids, right? Like what are we going to make for dinner tonight?
00:05:23 What are we going to do for family day on Saturday? Are we going to go to this place or that place?
00:05:27 the bible doesn't give a clear command one way or the other so who decides and if the husband's
00:05:33 authority it's only those things which are chapter and verse in a biblicist wooden framework
00:05:38 explicitly commanded by god or explicitly forbidden by god then what you're really saying at the end
00:05:42 of the day is that the the husband actually has no authority it's just god has authority
00:05:47 through his word only and it's equally binding on both and so there's actually there's no human
00:05:53 leadership in the home whatsoever. We don't believe that. So in those matters which are not
00:05:58 expressly forbidden by God or commanded by God, but areas of deference and prudence, the husband has
00:06:05 full, total authority. He must love his wife as Christ loves the church. He should not lord it
00:06:11 over her in an abusive manner, but he is a lowercase l lord. Sarah called her husband Abraham
00:06:18 Lord, and God esteems this and honors this. And you do well, wives, here today, Christian wives,
00:06:24 if you honor the mothers of the faith, those great women of old, also showing deference to
00:06:31 your husband. So this documentary, it honestly blew my mind. I was shocked that in the year of
00:06:36 our Lord, pleasantly shocked, in the year of our Lord, 2026, that someone would have the guts, 0.98
00:06:43 the grit to say wives should obey their husbands in everything, which is literally just a quote 0.93
00:06:50 from Scripture. The Bible literally says in everything, but someone to have the guts to 0.62
00:06:54 actually say that and to frame it in a way that was God-glorifying, not degrading towards women
00:07:02 whatsoever, beautiful. It was really, really well done. So we have the privilege today
00:07:09 to have Timothy Gordon, who was instrumental in this documentary and helping direct it and those
00:07:15 kinds of things with high production. He's also one of the characters in the film. His wife is
00:07:20 one of the characters in the film, and he is with us in-house, in the studio, in the flesh,
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00:10:16 all right here we are timothy gordon live in the studio we're honored to have you with us
00:10:35 why what what possessed you what what gave you the goal the unmitigated audacity to produce
00:10:42 a film like this? Well, I would say it's being a man who has to go out into society. You're
00:10:50 accosted everywhere at every moment by women, women who are out of control. And the movie, 1.00
00:10:58 What a Woman Is, is the translation of my book, The Case for Patriarchy. And when I announced that
00:11:05 I was writing this book in the Catholic world. It was summer of 2019, and I went on Matt Fradd's
00:11:13 show, and I said, look, I'm writing this book. Matt Fradd was excited to have me out. It was an
00:11:19 in-person meeting, and I just said, women are out of control. You know what I mean? 1.00
00:11:24 And Matt, who's a good guy and an honest observer, was like, no, no, I don't. And that shocked me.
00:11:31 I was going to say, as soon as you said Matt Fradd, I thought, I don't think that he would agree with us.
00:11:38 Yeah.
00:11:39 Simply by virtue of, not that I'm a long-time listener to Pints with Aquinas or anything like that,
00:11:44 but although I know that he's done good work, and I've heard that from several people,
00:11:48 so I'm not trying to be unnecessarily discouraging, but I just, he was picked up by the Daily Wire.
00:11:54 Yeah.
00:11:54 And so, to me, that said, like, there's, I'll just say it this way.
00:11:58 But you will not be getting any offers to host a show from Timothy Gordon on the Daily Wire.
00:12:05 For some reason.
00:12:06 For some reasons.
00:12:08 At least two of them.
00:12:10 JQ and WQ.
00:12:11 But he's a good guy.
00:12:12 He loves the Lord, Matt Fradd.
00:12:15 But it was terrifying.
00:12:16 I think it was his most watched show ever.
00:12:18 And I told a story.
00:12:20 This was when he was still in Atlanta.
00:12:21 I'd just gone to Disney World with my family the night before.
00:12:26 And we took the RV, which you saw in. 1.00
00:12:28 And he, you know, I was like, you know, women are out of control. 1.00
00:12:31 You don't know what I'm talking about. 1.00
00:12:32 Let me give you a story. 1.00
00:12:34 You know, we were walking to the parking lot yesterday and, you know, big fat woman was
00:12:39 walking with her husband and he was dutifully, lovingly trying to get her carbonated beverage
00:12:45 after a long day at Disney World. 0.76
00:12:47 And she was screaming at him about the wrong flavor of diet.
00:12:52 You know, the diet wasn't really working. 1.00
00:12:53 and and my wife was i mean steph gets pumped up she's like i want to go tell this lady 0.99
00:13:00 to like shut her trap or you're not cute enough to act like this or something and i was saying
00:13:05 this and um you know the audience had just never heard it and that was 2019 and that's when i
00:13:11 announced i was writing it and and the next month i got uh an invitation to go debate feminism
00:13:16 with trent horn who's another catholic a friend of matt frad's and uh we had a feminism debate
00:13:23 that's now kind of legendary you can still go listen to it but he was arguing in 2019 and i
00:13:28 believe september that feminism was good or there was some good iteration of it and i just thought
00:13:35 and i you know it was the debate went very well for me and uh i encourage people to go check it
00:13:40 out but then the book came out two and a half years later it took a while to get all of the
00:13:46 scripture and the patristic fathers together. And in 2021, 22, the world still wasn't ready
00:13:54 to hear the message. And something has changed between then and now. And so the movie, which
00:14:01 translates all of this, it really was set up as, you won't believe this, as a sequel to
00:14:08 Matt Walsh's film, because I do have some Catholic friends in the brass at Daily Wire. And I said,
00:14:15 this is going to be extreme you know we're actually going to answer the question what is a
00:14:21 woman which walsh's film for all its merits did not do right aside from a one-line answer
00:14:27 what it really did he did it but only in the physical plane sure not the deeper not spiritual
00:14:33 not emotional not like species and genus taxonomy and a woman is an adult human female
00:14:38 i don't know about you i knew that and he also he also does a capable job of saying what a woman
00:14:47 is not but i don't know about you but i also knew that a woman is not a man right and so what i guess
00:14:54 the 2014 2015 gender dysphoria world really did was it crossed everyone's wires the the transsexual
00:15:05 world um where one could be uh conservative and actually this this is still going on to some
00:15:13 extent over the last 10 years to be a more feminist uh to be a greater advocate of feminism
00:15:21 on the right than on the left as a response to gender dysphoria and so what i said is okay the
00:15:28 the primary argument of my book and it needs to be the movie is that the original gender dysphoria
00:15:34 is feminism. It's functional behavioral gender dysphoria. Or if gender dysphoria is defined as 0.99
00:15:42 hating your own sex or wanting to be the opposite sex, functionally and behaviorally,
00:15:49 it's everywhere. It affects 99% of people. It affects 99% of households. Ontological gender
00:15:58 dysphoria, transsexualism is a psyop run by certain, certain people on top of society that 0.67
00:16:05 don't even think influences one out of a thousand people. I don't know what the numbers are, but
00:16:08 they're, they're saturated. They're exaggerated. So ontological gender dysphoria is not really a
00:16:15 thing. But when I had been looking into functional gender dysphoria, feminism, which makes a woman 0.99
00:16:22 want to act like a man and a man want to act like a woman, it traces its roots back to the middle
00:16:28 1800s right and you know so there's this myth that that had been abiding in conservative academia
00:16:37 conservative popular media which said that the first wave was good when you look into the first 0.81
00:16:44 wave of feminism you realize there aren't waves of feminism gender dysphoria is the main thing 1.00
00:16:50 it just makes men and women want to cross roles and first wave feminism had five big goals that 0.92
00:16:58 are all cognizable and recognizable as the five main goals of second and third wave feminism
00:17:04 which leads to the conclusion that there are no genuine earnest waves of feminism at all so to
00:17:11 talk about them is to be misled and the last two years has given me some hope i thought this might
00:17:17 be the kind of um kirkagardian project where you you know your your last refuge is shaking a fist
00:17:23 in the sky and saying the future will show that i'm right or will prove that i'm right but
00:17:26 something happened with the the red pill online which we'll have to discuss and and pearl davis
00:17:33 that shook things loose in 2022 2023 and we're we're bearing fruit quicker than we thought we
00:17:40 would and and candace owens you know is hosting this documentary on her website which is where
00:17:46 you can go find which honestly i gotta be honest that surprises me yeah um you know but uh but i
00:17:52 think you told me that um that and i'm sure she does this with anything that she doesn't produce
00:17:57 herself uh but especially your project isn't there like a disclaimer at the beginning it's like uh
00:18:03 we we don't necessarily agree with these views something like that there is there is yeah and
00:18:08 we were fine with that yeah that's okay i get it because it's it's um mutual indemnification
00:18:14 in a way it works both ways and uh it's it's honest and i'm i'm friends with her husband
00:18:20 george husband and ceo and i think george to his credit george was really behind the project
00:18:26 um had loved it for nine months yeah and he really pushed it so for him yeah that's cool
00:18:31 uh let's do this we so your trailer for this is like five minutes long so we you know for the
00:18:37 sake of time we shorten it a little bit uh but we have a two-minute version of your trailer for the
00:18:42 film what a woman is and i just wanted for people who haven't you know even seen the trailer and
00:18:47 they don't even know this is the first time they're hearing about it i wanted them to see
00:18:50 just one to hear the messaging and two to see just the production value of the film so let's
00:18:56 let's go ahead nathan and play that trailer and then we'll come back and i've got some specific
00:18:59 questions i want to ask excellent it's been answered simply a woman is not a man
00:19:08 But in our age, it's never been answered with any specificity what a woman actually is.
00:19:19 The main thing that people need to grasp is that patriarchy is reality.
00:19:26 You have no choice between patriarchy and no patriarchy.
00:19:33 how many of your friends or your neighbors out in the burbs or in the herbs regularly use the
00:19:40 refrains happy wife happy life happy wife happy life right happy wife happy life let me go ask
00:19:46 the boss we'll have to check with the boss on this one okay let me check with my wife okay 1.00
00:19:51 I gotta ask my wife first this is the widespread evidence that everyone knows is there feminism is 1.00
00:19:58 one of the key elements they had to do first to bring about all the other revolutions. So whether 1.00
00:20:04 it's the 60s counterculture revolution or whether it's the biological trans revolution, all of that
00:20:10 had to be preceded by the feminist revolution first. But in the first place, the mutual agreement
00:20:14 to swap sex roles was not called gender dysphoria. It was called simply feminism. So any woman who's
00:20:24 truly feminine according to a feminist is degraded are you interested in knowing what the truth is 1.00
00:20:31 are you willing to submit to the truth now you need to be ready to change whatever plans you 1.00
00:20:36 think you had you have to decide what kind of woman you want to be
00:20:54 dude it was so well done there were so many things this is what i want to get into there
00:21:01 were so many moments um so his wife uh there's there's a section it keeps kind of coming back
00:21:07 to her there's some main characters in the film and you know it goes to them for a little bit and
00:21:11 goes to somebody else for a little bit you know like a typical documentary and so timothy gordon's
00:21:16 wife um and this is what i love i don't know your wife's first name based like so it goes on her and
00:21:26 they ask they like uh what is your name she says mrs timothy uh timothy gordon base baller uh and
00:21:33 and it's like and where is she in this documentary they put her uh seated at the island in her
00:21:38 kitchen i was like this is baller like i like my wife and i were so impressed and there was a moment
00:21:44 in the movie uh later on where you timothy you were discussing um okay so like uh a man we we
00:21:52 you know we would agree as you know conservatives what is a conservative today just a liberal from
00:21:57 15 minutes ago but conservatives would agree yeah you know a man shouldn't wear a dress um but then
00:22:02 you started saying yeah but but we're still perfectly fine with not only uh permissibility
00:22:07 but uh like vehemently advocating and advancing pushing for a man not to wear a dress but to
00:22:14 behave as though he does and the examples cited guys with like they're like um why are we uh
00:22:20 pushing for a man to do the dishes why are we pushing for a man to change diapers why are we
00:22:26 and it showed like clips of a man like uh helping you know doing all these kind of domestical duties
00:22:32 and and showed you know first wave feminism being uh you know people in black and white
00:22:37 being interviewed on the street it looked like it was london somewhere in england and asking like on
00:22:42 the weekends you know like uh do you work outside of the home and the woman's like some of them are
00:22:46 like yes some of them are no well on the weekends you know uh does your husband help you with the
00:22:50 duties you know what what is your husband what is he doing on the weekends when he's not working
00:22:54 when he's at home it's like oh he's doing the dishes and he's doing this and he's doing and
00:22:58 what is the woman doing oh she's resting and then like timothy comes you know back on and makes a
00:23:02 point um yeah so that's that's a man who's not wearing a dress but he's living as though he does
00:23:06 and i was like you can say that i was like look at that i was like i'm surprised that uh the
00:23:14 disclaimer that candace owens put on this was not like you know like bolder and bigger you know the
00:23:19 during the whole film right at the bottom third is just like 150 font you know i don't necessarily
00:23:25 It was based, man.
00:23:27 I was impressed.
00:23:28 Impressed.
00:23:29 That section's also important.
00:23:31 Thank you for all the praise.
00:23:33 That section's important because the narrator,
00:23:35 who is the director, Nicholas Stumphouser,
00:23:37 who's got a lot of films for a young guy under his belt,
00:23:41 and you've seen his crazy good style,
00:23:44 also directed Died Suddenly,
00:23:45 which like 50 million people saw.
00:23:48 He says, your grandparents' grandparents were feminists. 0.79
00:23:52 You've been lied to. 0.79
00:23:53 That was powerful. 1.00
00:23:54 And it's true, because feminism is, if you want to go original, original, it's original sin. 1.00
00:24:02 It's Eve, and we'll have to talk about Lilith some, fake apocryphal Lilith, but it's at least Eve and Adam mutually agreeing to swap roles.
00:24:11 but historically in the anglo west or whatever in western civilization it's 1848 and i've been in
00:24:22 squabbles with elderly relatives who you know were 90 or 100 saying i i could have been your boss
00:24:29 because i remember talking once about my my tyrannical femme boss when i was a land man i
00:24:35 was like i have a land man boss i don't even know what to call it was she a land man or a land woman
00:24:40 man and you know my my relative was like i could i could have been your good boss so i was like
00:24:46 no you're you're a woman i i don't want that no man wants it it's so mortifying and and what we
00:24:53 have en masse in society is a ritual humiliation ritual i mean a ceremonial ritual of humiliation 0.71
00:25:02 where we go to work and we're we're we're told to act in a way that befits women we're told to
00:25:07 say things that make women feel good about themselves you guys know the the red pill content
00:25:12 gets that much right but um i i think once people get their mind around that point that you're
00:25:20 you're highlighting there joel that conservatives normies all condemn women going in the men's
00:25:28 bathroom or men going in the women's bathroom or men wearing a woman's dress but that's those
00:25:32 are just behaviors that are illicit, and they should be illicit. But why... We had a segment
00:25:38 called Diapergate with this woman, all the way living in the United Arab Emirates, who set 0.53
00:25:45 Catholic Twitter on fire, right-of-shoes converting, by saying, why are all these men changing diapers? 0.84
00:25:50 We call it Diapergate. And good trad Catholics, Latin mass Catholics, jumped all over her case. 0.62
00:25:58 They jumped all over her case. I was the only guy I knew that came to her aid. I was like,
00:26:02 no, this is right.
00:26:03 Are you guys gender dysphorics or not?
00:26:05 You know?
00:26:06 Yeah.
00:26:07 Yeah, there's, you know, it's like,
00:26:10 hey, the Trump administration is going to ban men
00:26:12 from being in women's sports.
00:26:13 And you're just like, 1.00
00:26:14 wake me up when they ban women's sports.
00:26:16 Thank you. 1.00
00:26:17 What's more gender dysphoric? 0.85
00:26:19 It is. 0.97
00:26:19 Women in women's sports or men in women's sports? 0.98
00:26:22 Because men playing women's sports, 0.98
00:26:23 at least they're playing sports still. 0.79
00:26:26 They're being competitive.
00:26:27 They're acting like men.
00:26:28 Right, they're acting like men. 1.00
00:26:29 Women in women's sports are more gender dysphoric. 0.85
00:26:32 in my view, and the view of Western civilization. 0.97
00:26:35 Go into that for just a little bit, because I actually think that it's not just nitpicking,
00:26:39 and it's not just, you know, like, hey, this is a moment to be super-based.
00:26:42 There's a ton of reasoning behind this, and a lot of medical study, and Wes, maybe you
00:26:46 can share a couple examples of that.
00:26:48 You know, Wes's background is, you know, he's a Columbia grad, and has done a lot of biology
00:26:53 and things like that, and also has his master's.
00:26:55 But for you first, though, Timothy, what was some of the reasoning that you would say that
00:27:01 it is that it's not feminine it's not uh it does not behoove women in a domestic feminine role
00:27:07 to be competing in sports well i'd give two answers i think i think wes will give the the
00:27:13 hyper muscular version of my second answer but i would say first off we don't like short you know
00:27:21 skanky outfits on cheerleaders but cheerleading proper in maybe the older outfits i don't know
00:27:28 what a cheerleader can wear that's that's appropriate right but if you can conceive of
00:27:32 an outfit do you let the costumery people deal with that it's very appropriate for men to take
00:27:39 center stage even at the level of high school especially at the level of high school where
00:27:43 we're grooming young men to grow up and be warrior poets or whatever you it gets larpy fast but 1.00
00:27:49 whatever education is supposed to do men should be at center stage and women being on the sidelines
00:27:56 cheering them on is entirely appropriate so that's answer one and i remember i had another 0.95
00:28:02 sort of relative of a relative who said i don't want my daughter to grow up and be a cheerleader
00:28:07 i wanted to grow up and be a volleyball star and i was like like this is this is gender dysphoric
00:28:13 once again you look under a rock and you're going to see gender dysphoria so that's answer number
00:28:18 one answer number two that west can probably this will just be a runway for him is female athlete
00:28:24 triad i would i would ask most basically what is the telos the goal or the end of male sports
00:28:33 they are to prepare in some some broad maybe perhaps overbroad but some general sense for war
00:28:43 and more than that they are healthy for the individual warrior coming of age meaning they
00:28:50 literally increases virility, increases testosterone, and make him more likely to be
00:28:56 able to reproduce. Right. That's what sports do. That's what they do when they increase your 0.62
00:29:00 testosterone. When you look at what sports, almost any sports, we're talking, the studies I've seen
00:29:05 were JV high school level sports. We're not just talking about hyper-athletic female Olympians.
00:29:13 It's called the female athlete triad. They become very easily, they have too much testosterone in 1.00
00:29:19 their system not enough to be good at the sport but enough to make them uh or reproductively 0.96
00:29:24 unsound and many girls it's something like in some studies up to 35 or 40 percent will stop 0.71
00:29:31 hitting their period monthly and not to be gross but it's important because it shows that sports 0.67
00:29:38 do the exact opposite thing to a woman they make her less womanly and less able to bear children 0.93
00:29:45 whereas sports make a man more able to build our children. 0.88
00:29:48 Because sports are masculine.
00:29:49 It's competition.
00:29:51 It's taking two teams, or you could say two armies.
00:29:54 That's what it is.
00:29:55 It's a simulation of taking two armies,
00:29:57 forging them together, training for battle,
00:30:00 and then having a scrimmage, having a simulation of war
00:30:03 and what it would be like except without the blood and bullets.
00:30:07 And so it's befitting of a man.
00:30:08 It's in this masculine direction.
00:30:11 And so it only makes logical sense that when you put boys,
00:30:15 future men in sports it actually if anything it it works as a catalyst and expedites uh their 0.72
00:30:23 their manhood maturing it it propels them more into masculinity but when you put women into that
00:30:32 it actually inhibits them being feminine even at a biological level and i love what you said about
00:30:39 the cheerleading thing because that's not just you know a funny throwaway line like that's that's 0.51
00:30:43 actually significant um i think that is far more gender dysphoric and and therefore immoral and 0.54
00:30:50 outside of god's plan for humanity for men and women uh for a man to be um a cheerleader than
00:30:59 for a man to be in women's sports i don't think we should have men and women's sports but more
00:31:04 than that i think we shouldn't have women's sports period but you take a man and you put
00:31:09 them in uh women's volleyball you allow them to play in women's volleyball um that actually is
00:31:14 less perverse it's unfair uh but that's less of a perversion of for the man uh than it is to put a
00:31:22 man as a cheerleader because that is a feminine role of of a help meet role that you're cheering
00:31:28 on you're encouraging uh you're on the side uh esteeming and drawing attention i think of like
00:31:35 you know proverbs 31 the woman that um she's uh she's constantly uh singing the praises of her
00:31:42 husband you know as he sits in the city gates like he's among the elders he's making these decisions
00:31:48 for the community for the village he's in the leadership role and she's playing this uh this
00:31:53 background uh part to you know he's the solo instrument she's the accompaniment and she's
00:32:00 her whole purpose is to serve and highlight and draw attention to his prominent role. And so to
00:32:07 take a young man and allow him to be a cheerleader is to allow him to be womanly. To take a man and 1.00
00:32:14 put him in women's sports is he's being a man with a bunch of other people who shouldn't be,
00:32:19 you know, but are pretending to be men. To take a man and make him a cheerleader
00:32:22 is taking a man and causing him to behave in every regard as a woman. 0.94
00:32:29 It's not a coincidence. Every NFL cheerleader, those are some effeminate men. There's a couple
00:32:34 teams now that have added male cheerleaders to their NFL regimen. Those are men that are
00:32:38 limp-wristed. Those are men that are effeminate in their conduct. When it comes to the women in 0.96
00:32:43 sports thing, unless we're talking a sport like chess or e-gaming or something like that, 1.00
00:32:47 every meaningful sport, your tennis, your CrossFit, whatever it would be, for a woman to compete in 1.00
00:32:52 that, she is going to be, if she wants to win, she wants to succeed and be the best, the more muscle, 0.98
00:32:57 the more testosterone, and the less body fat she has. All of those factors within reason,
00:33:02 if she has more muscle, if she has less body fat, and higher testosterone, it's going to make her 1.00
00:33:07 faster, better, and stronger. But those things in a woman directly conflict with her ability 1.00
00:33:13 to have children, to be healthy, and to be fertile. When it comes to CrossFit, for example, 0.92
00:33:19 testosterone is what builds your muscle. Testosterone is what helps you recover.
00:33:22 Testosterone is what helps your drive. You're tired, it's day, whatever would be of training.
00:33:27 testosterone is what helps get you up. So women do everything they can, whether it be through 1.00
00:33:31 supplements, whether it be through lifting, heavy weights, whether it be outside in the sun, 1.00
00:33:35 they do all of these things to increase their testosterone. But then all of these women, 1.00
00:33:39 they either, for one, they're training through their menstrual period, which is terrible. I have 1.00
00:33:43 a story right here, Sarah Singman's daughter, a CrossFit athlete, she's throwing up on the field
00:33:48 again and again, trying to train through her period. And then she loses it for two years.
00:33:52 So you can't have both. It can't be, and I want to be a fertile, healthy woman. And also I want
00:33:57 to compete in this sport, but even walk it back a little bit to college, your healthiest years of
00:34:02 life and the stress of competition, the travel with competition, your cycle, also your schedule,
00:34:09 you're up late at night, you're traveling, you're crossing time zones. Women, when it comes to like 1.00
00:34:13 nurses, for example, women that work third shift, their lives get destroyed way worse than men. 0.65
00:34:18 Being up at night and having to switch nights and days, men are a lot more suited to that.
00:34:22 Men are suited biologically to everything that makes them competitive and good at sports. 0.90
00:34:28 And for women to do that, if they're going to actually meaningfully do it at a competitive level, 0.99
00:34:31 it means doing nothing that is womanly and everything that is manly. 0.99
00:34:35 More testosterone, more drive, more lifting, more heavy muscle.
00:34:38 It's literally the complete opposite. 1.00
00:34:40 And we, of course, see, oh, and these women lose their period. 1.00
00:34:44 Or if they want to be competitive, I think Serena Williams, a tennis star, she was talking about this. 1.00
00:34:48 She's like, what in the world?
00:34:49 I want to have kids, but I also want to be this tennis star. It's not fair. Men get to do that.
00:34:55 Men don't have to worry about having kids. It's like, wow. Yeah, because you're a woman.
00:34:59 Because God designed us absolutely, not a little different, which has become politically correct
00:35:06 for even some conservatives to admit, but oppositely. Men become more virile. Women become
00:35:12 less womanly by sports. And that's because like Joel said- 0.78
00:35:15 Literally the opposite of virile. So virile meaning fertility, fecundity.
00:35:18 manly yeah men more yeah men less in sports directly can we talk about i wanted to address
00:35:25 tennis and then chess really fast well i was just going to say also on the on the topic of sports
00:35:32 like you think about the biological realities that women have to cross um like it's not lost
00:35:37 to me that culturally even as you see the development of sports in the west it goes from
00:35:41 these very physical i mean you can even think about like medieval sports jousting and um and
00:35:47 archery and those sorts of things physical sports even into uh you know the development of football
00:35:52 american football and those sorts of things to look real football look at some of the sports that
00:35:56 are that exist now you just look at the olympics i mean we they they have steadily gotten less
00:36:01 physically um sort of demanding in the sense of like skating and um surfing and all of these
00:36:07 things that have sort of all these sports have gained in popularity and developed they're all
00:36:12 they're they're attempts you could say culturally for women to sort of create an app you know a
00:36:16 sport or some kind of like competition ground where the biological realities aren't as prevalent
00:36:22 so um so that's just also something to worth consider worth considering you know i share in
00:36:28 in the case for patriarchy i share this story about serena williams who said who always believe
00:36:36 it or not has had a reasonably realistic conception of what a female athlete is in
00:36:41 relation to a male athlete, not even second class. But she, this is around the turn of the century,
00:36:48 predicted, I think I ought to be able to beat around the 200th ranked male tennis star. So
00:36:55 she picked out someone that was ranked around 200th. He was a German named Karsten Brash.
00:37:00 And she's like, I want to play him. I think I can beat him. So Karsten, before he played her,
00:37:05 he chugged a beer he smoked a cig and he beat her i can't remember the tennis scores are weird
00:37:12 either six one six love or six one and she was like wow i've never afterwards they interviewed
00:37:18 her she said i've never seen uh serve return to me like that it's it's a different sport
00:37:23 all together and then her sister came up and tried him and he beat her six zero or six one as well
00:37:29 so the the point is this is the greatest female tennis player this is not like top 10 or top five
00:37:33 like built her whole life tennis tennis tennis live and breathe this dude sent me a serve that 0.97
00:37:40 i couldn't even return exactly she's the goat she's the goat and and this isn't even the same 0.96
00:37:46 sport and her sister is like what second best or whatever i mean we're we're we're majoring in the 0.98
00:37:51 minors when we're talking about female sports in general but yeah she is the goat she is the widely 1.00
00:37:56 received goat and she just if you look at what she says about females in sports it's um it's 1.00
00:38:03 borderline based, even though she understands what the stakes of the game are. And I would 1.00
00:38:09 just say tennis is probably better for women than now NFL is pushing what used to be called 1.00
00:38:16 powder puff. They're pushing women in flag football really hard. That's extra bad. Tennis 1.00
00:38:21 is one of the ones you'd kind of, when you're a young man, you kind of like your girlfriend to
00:38:25 play tennis or soccer because it's a lot of running, which is estrogenic, but it's still
00:38:30 bad for them i would just say chess if you check the all-time 50 highest ranked chess players um 0.90
00:38:37 or check bobby fisher who's very based about wq or jq um you're not gonna find women anywhere
00:38:44 he was a very based guy he was jewish himself i know he came out and he's like yeah the united
00:38:49 states is a jewish farce essentially the goat yeah if you get that good at chess um i just
00:38:57 want to point out there seems to be a direct correlation it's like if you are brilliant enough 0.94
00:39:01 to be a chess master and even if you happen to be jewish that level of intelligence in one field 0.98
00:39:08 tends to boil over to a right yeah you just are a problem well i'll say even too with chess because 0.90
00:39:14 sometimes people conflate there's the polgar sisters which were trained from very early on
00:39:18 by their father to be really good at chess and i think judith polgar would be considered the
00:39:22 greatest uh chess player for women and she's a couple times beat like magnus carlson and blitz
00:39:26 or something like that but we're talking classic like actual chess where the strategy blitz can be
00:39:31 as short as 60 seconds so sometimes people will try to whip that out as a gotcha and like well
00:39:35 actually judith polgar blah blah and blitz but no in classic chess it's not even close there's been
00:39:41 no one to match some of the greats like magnus carlson he can play 10 people blindfolded memorizing
00:39:46 all the pieces and that's like you said it's mental nothing physical about it nothing to do
00:39:51 with muscle mass or body fat or any of that purely mental and again categorical massive chasm between
00:39:57 the two right it just has to be recognized um i forget what i was gonna oh okay so i've got to
00:40:05 bring this up one of the most fascinating sections of the documentary was um you had an exorcist
00:40:13 in the film and uh and he was pretty based now there was you know there was one part which we
00:40:19 don't have to go into it you know you're catholic i'm protestant you know so help me but um but you
00:40:24 know there was one part where like my wife was listening she was like she was like based and
00:40:28 like he's sitting there talking and then um and then you know he got he couldn't help himself he
00:40:32 got into purgatory for a moment there and my wife and i we looked at each other we smiled and we're
00:40:37 like it's inevitable that's good you know they're catholic it's gonna happen you know but everything
00:40:42 else he was saying but here's the deal this is what i found so fascinating was you know he was
00:40:45 showing his office and he was showing you know like his library and all his different literature
00:40:49 and and he was like this is an entire section over here you know on um because what does exorcism
00:40:56 have to do with feminism that that was the the big the big question the burning question and
00:41:00 the correlation was uh what does feminism have to do with with exorcism and demons and satan
00:41:05 he was like uh witches witches and there was a whole portion of the documentary directly linking
00:41:12 and you mentioned earlier briefly i we got to talk about lilith so can we go there
00:41:18 let's go there and i think by the way this is the segment that really sold candace that she was like
00:41:24 this is really cool the the witchcraft segment it's toward the beginning of the film and and
00:41:29 people should go check it out so one thing i like to say is that you have eve who is the godmother
00:41:39 of feminism and feminists today like we we quote one uh named katie scott marshall a prominent
00:41:45 feminist who says look eve is is honestly very emblematic of feminism and the struggle against 0.73
00:41:51 patriarchy feminists are quite honest that's the good thing particularly secular feminists
00:41:56 feminism cannot coexist with christianity we'll get into that um the widespread admission by the 0.99
00:42:02 first wave feminists who all said feminism can't coexist with christianity yeah they literally
00:42:06 admitted, if we're going to win, we don't just have to dismantle the patriarchy. We have to 1.00
00:42:11 dismantle Christianity. The patriarchy is Christianity. Of course. And that's what I 0.82
00:42:15 always say. The patriarchy is Christianity. It doesn't matter what type of Christian you are. 0.91
00:42:19 If you're a Trinitarian Christian, patriarchy is Christianity. We and the Orthodox would say
00:42:25 it's a bimodal patriarchy, a clerical one, and a lay patriarchy. But the feminists object to all 0.99
00:42:31 of it. And literally the lady who was the head of first wave feminism, Seneca Falls Convention 1.00
00:42:38 in upstate New York in 1848, she rewrote the Bible and she said, the Bible cannot coexist
00:42:47 with our goals. There can be no Christian feminism. So they're more honest and they're
00:42:52 more useful to guys like us nowadays to say, look at the actual first wave feminists. They didn't 1.00
00:42:57 think that you could have this circular square known as a Christian feminist. But what I wanted 0.69
00:43:02 to point out is, of course, Eve, she rejected, she repudiated the God and man-instituted
00:43:12 patriarchy, and she got punished for it. So she is the feminist tragic hero, fallen hero.
00:43:21 So apocryphal Lilith, and kids that grew up in the 90s that are about our age will remember
00:43:28 the fascination in the popular culture in the 90s with Lilith.
00:43:32 Lilith Fest, Lilith Fair, Lilith Crane from Frasier and Cheers, Lilith Jewish Women's
00:43:39 Magazine is considered one of the cornerstones of printed periodical feminism, Lilith Jewish 0.91
00:43:48 Women's Magazine. I'm sure you guys are avid readers of that. Who is Lilith? Lilith comes
00:43:55 out of the Babylonian Talmud, so you know this is going to be rich. She was Adam's apocryphal
00:44:01 first wife. We as Christians know it's nonsense, but the Jews believe she was Adam's first wife,
00:44:06 and she was and is, as a template for feminists, she's the superhero, whereas Eve is the tragic 0.52
00:44:16 here who got punished lilith spawned with demons killed um adam's children uh is known as sort of 1.00
00:44:24 the the demon of sid's deaths and abortions and the earliest feminists were all witches they all
00:44:32 spent much time at the seance table and they all really looked up to lilith even more than eve 0.97
00:44:38 because she got away with it she got she refused to have sex with her husband husband adam and she 1.00
00:44:45 spawned with demons and she was a scourge on humanity so that's why feminists loved that that's
00:44:52 what all this lilith fair lilith fest business was in the 90s and and still she's very important to
00:44:58 them q witchcraft we looked up and father chad the the based exorcist um who's one of the few
00:45:07 catholics that's really strong on this that the coolest priest in the world when you ask him on
00:45:11 this. And he spends time at Mar-a-Lago, so he's gotten in close there. Very, very based all around.
00:45:19 He's like, look, that book he was pulling out of his library, he started saying it, but he didn't
00:45:24 say it. It was called The Hammer of Witches, the Malleus Maleficarum. And it says that there's
00:45:30 this connection between witches and the act of coitus, and seven specific demonic things they do,
00:45:40 including, you know, dismemberment and, you know, killing children. Abortion is one of them. So the 0.53
00:45:49 earliest known abortions in medieval Europe were all witches using Jewish lilith as a template 0.99
00:45:57 to kill children. And witches are the earliest European, I don't want to say leitmotif, 0.95
00:46:06 icon of what modern feminists... And modern feminists are just first wave feminists. So 1.00
00:46:12 they don't want children. They hate men. They compete with men. And if they're forced into the 0.99
00:46:19 role of woman, this is the... I'm quoting now from that document at Seneca Falls in 1848. It's called
00:46:26 the Declaration of Grievances. It says they will be subjugated as wives, as Christian wives. So 1.00
00:46:34 they're very honest and that's very useful to us now yeah yeah very useful uh any other well first
00:46:42 let's just where where can people go and watch the film so go to candaceowens.com it's if you
00:46:47 scroll a little bit down it's under documentaries it will be free for the public for two days a day
00:46:56 and a half on february 4th and february 5th okay i think matt walsh used this model with his
00:47:02 documentary what is a woman and it worked very well they they released it at first
00:47:07 and um however many people watched it paid for it but a couple i think it was like a weekend of free
00:47:15 free views helped everyone to say you know i need to go see this if i even if i didn't catch it free
00:47:21 so february 4th and 5th if you don't want to pay it's only a dollar 99 right but if you don't want
00:47:26 to pay a dollar 99 go go check it out pay a dollar 99 please pay a dollar yeah pay the dollar
00:47:31 99 i could use it yeah it's a dollar 99 and you probably get what like nine cents of that dollar
00:47:36 99 no no to candace's credit uh the the film's director myself and uh our investors get six
00:47:45 60 of that oh good so so literally over it's like a dollar 20 out of every two dollars
00:47:50 candace candace was very uh good yeah okay yeah dollar 99 can't that that's uh that's her benchmark
00:47:57 And that's the same price, I think, that...
00:48:00 I think Nick was, yeah.
00:48:01 The Fuentes interview, yeah.
00:48:02 Yeah, when she paid you all that, Nick was not very excited about it.
00:48:05 No, but I thought $1.99 is good.
00:48:07 See, originally, George, Candace's husband, said,
00:48:11 what do you want, thank $3.99, $4.99.
00:48:14 I was like, let's do the same amount you charge for the Fuentes interview.
00:48:18 Right.
00:48:18 And I think $1.99 is good.
00:48:20 Everyone was mad about that two bucks. 0.96
00:48:22 That's ridiculous. 0.93
00:48:23 Yeah. 0.96
00:48:23 People, that's the thing.
00:48:25 It's like, yeah, we want to get truth out.
00:48:27 and we want to get it to as many people as possible
00:48:29 and we don't want to paywall things if we don't have
00:48:31 to but at the same time it's like
00:48:33 it's just the way
00:48:35 of the world that it costs money
00:48:37 like watching that documentary it's like
00:48:39 no this isn't free
00:48:41 you know like it costs you know the camera
00:48:43 equipment the production value you know getting
00:48:45 flying people out and all these
00:48:47 kinds of things like so it's you know it's not
00:48:49 so much like oh we're trying to make
00:48:51 a profit and get rich off of the masses
00:48:53 it's like no we're trying to
00:48:55 just at least not be in the hole
00:48:57 not have to take a second mortgage out on our own home you know in order to to do this preferably
00:49:02 yeah yeah yeah usury is wicked uh nick nick flew to the united arab emirates he flew to england he
00:49:09 flew to rome italy to get some of her interviews all over the united states so it shows up on
00:49:15 who's this that's that's not fuentes no this is nicholas stumphauser the director of of the film
00:49:20 who has i think eight films under his belt so what was your title with this film so i am
00:49:25 I'm creator, co-writer, and producer of the film
00:49:30 because it was based on my book, Case for Patriarchy,
00:49:34 and I storyboarded it.
00:49:35 It's also partly based on my wife's book.
00:49:38 You will not find it under...
00:49:39 Ask Your Husband?
00:49:39 Ask Your Husband, yeah.
00:49:41 I brought you a copy of that.
00:49:42 I love that.
00:49:42 By Mrs. Timothy J. Gordon.
00:49:44 That's right.
00:49:45 So this is a funny story.
00:49:47 That book was originally on a Catholic title,
00:49:52 a Catholic publication,
00:49:53 and um we we had to break with them because a month in they said this is you know we had to
00:50:00 break with them and i'll leave it there but it's a controversial work ask your husband and so when
00:50:08 she had published it they're like we want to use your name she's like i want to go mrs timothy j
00:50:12 gordon and they're like we have to force you to use your name so once we started self-publishing
00:50:16 it after we broke with uh tan books a based catholic publisher by most measures steph's like
00:50:26 okay well at least cool now i can now i can go with my real name mrs timothy i love that let's
00:50:31 let's talk about that real quick um you know because you're saying we had to break with this
00:50:35 catholic publication and you know one of the first things uh that you and i were talking about when
00:50:40 you you know right when you walked into the studio this morning was uh i was like man dude you know
00:50:45 watching that documentary i know you know a ton of catholics are are nominal just across the board
00:50:49 and then you know especially on this issue a ton of them would take a much more liberal feminist 0.99
00:50:53 position um but the fact that there's at least some out there that have it you know and so
00:50:58 anyways we were going back and forth and i was saying man i feel like um i feel like protestants
00:51:03 i was saying this i feel like protestants are the worst on feminism you're like i feel like
00:51:07 catholics are the worst and so you know and we both have that sense because we're because we're 0.98
00:51:12 each in our own camp like you're you know you're probably i would imagine like for every engagement 1.00
00:51:18 and interaction you have with a protestant you probably have 10 with catholics of course and
00:51:23 and vice versa uh but for me i'm like you know protestants have not held the line on on this
00:51:28 issue at all i mean even even the best ones are like yeah we're you know we're patriarchy they
00:51:35 don't even i can't even say that um the average conservative protestant won't even use the word
00:51:41 patriarchy because they think it's gross they think it's icky so they'll say we're complementarian
00:51:46 which the the whole idea just for the record with complementarianism is aside from the physical 0.77
00:51:51 distinctions in design right like women having breasts and hips and these you know and men you
00:51:56 know having broader shoulders aside from the physical distinctions between the sexes um the
00:52:01 the complementarian what they're essentially asserting is that there is uh in the realm of
00:52:07 design there is a distinction in the physical that's it only in the physical but aside from
00:52:13 that in every other regard it's two individuals who complement one another predominantly in the
00:52:20 realm of role so if you think like the two main headlines is role and design they would say well
00:52:27 the roles are distinct in order to complement one another but the design is mostly the same
00:52:33 the only distinction being in a subcategory of the design category physical but but they wouldn't
00:52:40 really speak to any distinction in the realm of design in terms of the soul or in terms of
00:52:46 emotional certainly not mental they would not you know point to studies of like hey well it's just
00:52:53 because you know men are stronger and that's not why they win you know at tennis or that's why they
00:52:56 win you know basketball um they they will uh totally avoid is like okay but but um how much
00:53:04 physical strength does it take to move a bishop across the board and how come men always win with
00:53:09 that too oh there's a mental distinction at every single level like i would argue and i know you
00:53:14 agree with this but one of the reasons that saint paul cites for um the husband being the head and
00:53:21 the woman not, is not just because of physical strength or these kinds of things, but he roots
00:53:28 it in the order of creation. Man was formed first, and woman was formed from man and for man.
00:53:33 He also roots it not only the order of creation, but the order of the fall. Woman fell first, 0.98
00:53:38 all right? And then Adam followed his wife into this fall, but then also not just the order of
00:53:43 the fall, but the manner of the fall, which gets into design. The woman was deceived and became,
00:53:48 And you read all the authors with inquisitim of antiquity, and they all, without blushing or without even equivocation, they just plainly say, and they're not being degrading or rude about it, it's just they state it as a theological fact that, oh, yeah, well, one of the reasons that women aren't called to lead, not only in the realm of the church or the home, but even the civil sphere and the public square, is because women are more susceptible to being deceived than men. 0.64
00:54:12 Jerome, Ambrose, Augustine, Chrysostom all make this point very explicitly that, I mean,
00:54:18 Chrysostom says...
00:54:19 Even the reformers in the 16th and 17th century continue to, you know, like William Gooch,
00:54:24 domestical duties, they make the same argument.
00:54:27 Yeah.
00:54:27 No, of course, because they're smart guys.
00:54:31 I mean, like, I think Chrysostom goes so far as to say, look, man was sort of semi-deceived,
00:54:37 a deception within a deception by his wife, who's a human being.
00:54:41 his but eve was deceived by a beast you know he's and he's kind of having some fun with it so
00:54:47 there is no patristic father that doesn't that doesn't think that think that yeah and i i tend
00:54:54 to be in the position in terms of adam i think that the um the the primary sin was um less of
00:55:00 deception and more of uh idolatry i think that ultimately what adam and i think the parallel
00:55:05 You know, in Christ, as the second Adam, you have the first Adam, he's actually formed in the wilderness, but immediately, as far as we can tell, immediately placed into a garden context, a place of plenty, a place of protection, and all these things.
00:55:27 And he starts, he's able to start his life, he doesn't start as a baby, he starts as a full-grown, mature man.
00:55:33 He's created in a state of maturity and, you know, in a state of integrity or innocence.
00:55:40 And there's one adversary, you know, the serpent, you know, that creeps into the garden.
00:55:45 But in the case of Adam, it's like the whole thing is set in his favor.
00:55:50 He has the advantage.
00:55:51 He has the high ground.
00:55:52 He's on the hill to defend.
00:55:54 And the serpent is at an immense disadvantage.
00:55:58 And when you think of like, when you parallel Adam in a garden, Christ in the wilderness,
00:56:02 thinking of his three temptations. Adam, a place of plenty. Christ, a place of scarcity. Adam,
00:56:08 well, all his victuals and provisions, you know, he's full. Like Christ, you know, fasting, you
00:56:13 know, for 40 days and 40 nights. Adam, having to resist sin, not through infancy or through
00:56:18 childhood, but being able to begin as a fully mature man. Christ, having to make it through
00:56:25 the terrible twos, you know, as sinless, you know, and, you know, all these different parallels.
00:56:30 But then when it comes to Adam, Eve being deceived, you know, my thought is what Adam should have done, one, he should have been guarding and keeping, guarding, keeping the garden from the adversary, from the serpent.
00:56:46 but had the serpent snuck in and it wasn't a manner of his lack of watchfulness it was more
00:56:52 in the category of his finitude rather than fallenness it's like the serpent just got in
00:56:56 it wasn't his fault it wasn't because he was abdicating his duties but still came in and
00:57:02 deceived his wife and Adam you know had he had an alibi you know he didn't it wasn't a moral
00:57:08 failure he was down you know gathering water or something like that even if that was the case
00:57:12 what Adam should have done the very moment that he realized what happened is he should have gone
00:57:17 and approached the Lord in the cool of the day when God would walk with them, this theophany or
00:57:21 Christophany, however you view that, and he should have approached God and said, God, something
00:57:28 terrible has happened. My wife has broken your commandment, and I know that she should surely
00:57:32 die. That's what you promised. The day you eat of it, you shall surely die. But I, as the Christ, 0.97
00:57:37 he shows i i would is there any way that i could die in her place and and most of the the guys you
00:57:44 know church fathers that that i've read on this subject they say that adam's primary sin rather
00:57:50 than being deception was um it was idolatry he knew um he was not deceived he he sinned with
00:57:56 his eyes wide open he knew what happened he knew that it was wrong he knew that it meant death
00:58:01 and he essentially said i'd rather die with my wife than live with the lord right he loved so
00:58:06 So he actually, it is this sacrificial love, but it's an idolatrous love that he exalted
00:58:13 Eve above the Lord in that moment, and that that was the fatal flaw.
00:58:19 Father Chad makes a similar point in the film, actually.
00:58:22 Yeah. 0.89
00:58:22 Not in as much detail, but it's true.
00:58:24 It's just not wanting to be removed from her company.
00:58:29 Her company.
00:58:29 Yeah. 0.99
00:58:29 I'd rather die with her than live with God. 0.99
00:58:32 Which is idolatry. 0.98
00:58:33 Which is idolatry, and we still see that.
00:58:35 that's what white knights are yeah that's what it is to be you know like you know excuse the
00:58:41 language but completely cupped yeah to be long housed it is to say like i'd rather like so many
00:58:46 men are my point is so many men like adam also are sinning with their eyes wide open many many
00:58:51 young modern women really are deceived they really are they're still culpable i'm not saying that
00:58:56 deception means there's no moral culpability they're responsible for being deceived but so
00:59:02 many men are actually not deceived i i i see men all the time and interact with them and you know
00:59:07 behind the scenes they won't admit it publicly but they're like yeah i know joan yeah i know but
00:59:11 what are we gonna do you know and like i it's my wife or you know it's my daughter or you know it's
00:59:17 it's whatever and and essentially what they're saying is that the same thing that adam you know
00:59:22 without without words but but what adam conveyed i think what adam would have said um i'd rather
00:59:28 I'd rather go down with the ship. I'd rather die with her than live with God.
00:59:32 That's reflected and best expressed by happy wife, happy life. Men are saying with their
00:59:37 eyes wide open, yeah, I know that if you put the second in charge, my helpmeet, which is what a 0.72
00:59:45 woman really is, is a helpmeet. She's not the main character. If I tell her she's the main character 1.00
00:59:49 along with society and I put her in charge, she will immediately become a tyrant. And I've done
00:59:55 so but i'm going to keep her happy and just have a it's like a perverse sacrificial love just the
01:00:02 way you're describing joel i'll just have a a rotten life and she'll be yelling at me all the
01:00:07 time and i'll feel bad about myself it'll lower my testosterone it's not ultimately good but
01:00:12 there will be a kind of happiness because there will be this um uneasy peace around the household
01:00:17 which is what 98 99 percent of households are running with and i think too at at the base of
01:00:23 it is also i'll shall at least have sex with me sometimes i can hold the line right and i'm
01:00:28 getting nothing at least where i'm at right now it's once or twice a month and literally it's like 0.87
01:00:32 it's it's uh sexual just not perversion but a type of sexual appetite that it's like i can't
01:00:39 say no to this and so because i can't say no to this i can't endanger this thing that i so
01:00:43 desperately long for that's right i refuse to lay down the law in my house and that's and most of
01:00:48 them they would probably admit that they'd be like if i'm honest here's why i won't lay down 0.93
01:00:51 the law yeah it's because of this versus the deception of women i mean so many of them they
01:00:56 think they're right like you give them the truth saying they'd be like i've been the victim my whole 0.58
01:01:00 life i truly believe it whereas men it's like yeah i'm a little bit of a simp right uh real quick
01:01:06 just one more time going back to the the adam and the second adam christ parallel um i i think that
01:01:12 there's there's even a correlation and this is you know implicit and so i i admit that i'm reading
01:01:17 into the text some but i don't think that it's contradictory but there's something you know
01:01:21 adam saying you know essentially saying i'd rather uh die with her uh than live with god
01:01:27 um and christ one of the temptations in the wilderness is you know that satan brings him up
01:01:33 to a high hill and shows him and i think this was probably more than just physical but a vision
01:01:39 shows him all the kingdoms of the earth and says i'll give them to you you know if you'll commit
01:01:44 idolatry, if you'll bow down and worship me. And it's not just idolatry of him worshiping
01:01:50 Satan, right? Substituting Satan for the Father. But in some sense, yes, it speaks to rule and
01:01:58 reign, authority, like I'll give these kingdoms to you, you will be their king, you'll rule over
01:02:03 them. But there's also a sense in which like Jesus came not to condemn the world, but in order that
01:02:08 the world might be saved through him, 1 John 3, 17, I'll give the kingdoms of the world and all
01:02:13 their subjects the peoples of the world and jesus did come he came for the people of the world to
01:02:19 ransom them behold uh the lamb of god who you know who um who uh is slain for uh for the world
01:02:26 and so jesus is coming for the peoples of the world and it's almost like satan saying i'll give
01:02:30 you that the very thing you came for i'll give it to you um but there's there's just there's another
01:02:34 path and and this is actually an easier path now the path is that you simply have to bow down and
01:02:40 worship me. It's an idolatrous path. But I will give you the people. And it's almost like Jesus
01:02:45 is posed with the same quandary, the same dichotomy that Adam was in the garden. I can die with her
01:02:52 or I can live with God. You know, die with her or live without her. Jesus is, by committing 0.99
01:03:00 idolatry, if he had, of course he didn't, bowing down and worshiping Satan, it's like, you'll get
01:03:05 the peoples of the earth. You'll get the kingdoms of the earth. You'll get to live with them.
01:03:09 but Jesus the difference is Adam is thinking I can either I can either die with her or live
01:03:15 without her the third option the one that Jesus takes is instead of I can die with the kingdoms
01:03:21 of the world my people will all ultimately perish because of idolatry apart from the Lord
01:03:26 I can either die with her my bride or live without her Jesus takes the option or instead of dying
01:03:32 with her I could die for her and that's like that's that's the gospel the gospel uh avenue
01:03:39 that that Adam either didn't see or didn't uh didn't have faith to believe that that would
01:03:45 have been possible and so it's and that's I think that's where we are today in many ways it's like
01:03:50 there's so many men the the you know the man with his tail between his legs who is not deceived he
01:03:56 sees these things with his eyes wide open he's opted for uh but I love her and we're not advocating
01:04:02 like we're not see the red pill is um yeah the problem that's the problem is that you love her
01:04:07 so just stop loving her yeah hate women yeah right use women um and we're saying no no no that's not
01:04:12 an option um and so you have the red pill that says you know um the problem is that you love her 0.60
01:04:17 stop it stop loving her and then you have the feminist men who many of them are not deceived
01:04:22 their eyes are wide open i love her so therefore i have to die with her but the third option for
01:04:28 the true patriarch the christian patriarch is um i'm not going to stop loving her and i'm not going
01:04:34 to in loving her die with her in loving her i'll die for her and part of that what that means that
01:04:41 that sacrificial death is um i'm going to love her at the cost of her not loving me at the cost of
01:04:50 she may hate me she may uh resent me she may revile me because she's deceived and under the
01:04:57 spell of the dragon she may not uh but i'm going to love her i'm going to speak the truth i'm not
01:05:02 going uh to simp uh for her i'm not going to bow down to her um i'm going to love so i'm not going
01:05:10 to in love for her die with her but i'm also not going to stop loving her in love for her i will
01:05:15 uh i'm not going to die with her i'm going to die for her but i won't that's the gospel picture
01:05:19 That is, and I'm 100% with you, but that's the heuristic that men need to check at the door.
01:05:29 The heuristic is I need to be willing to jeopardize this feeling that I have, whether it's sexual relations or peaceability around the homestead, for the first month or two or three when they're getting the power back.
01:05:47 because we also, my wife and I work as a kind of ministry
01:05:52 with couples that need coaching.
01:05:55 But women will, after they've been conditioned,
01:05:58 habituated is the Aristotelian term, 0.99
01:06:01 habituated to virtue this way,
01:06:04 it's what they naturally crave.
01:06:06 So it's not like a death of the rest of your natural life.
01:06:10 Right, right, right.
01:06:11 First, you need to be willing to give it up 100%.
01:06:13 That's what I'm saying.
01:06:14 I'm not saying it won't ever get better.
01:06:16 Yeah.
01:06:16 i'm not blackpilled they're sexually but i'm saying that just like christ there's a death
01:06:20 and then there's life forevermore there's a resurrection death is at the end of the story
01:06:23 exactly but uh but what i'm saying is that because we are so far off the rails and so many are uh
01:06:28 women are so deceived um you do get to uh the life everlasting after and that's the hopefulness
01:06:35 that your film contained the red pill has no hope there's no it's just hedonism but uh but there was
01:06:40 a hopefulness and so i'm not saying that so you have to die for the rest of your life i'm saying
01:06:44 I know you can get to beauty and health in your marriage, 1.00
01:06:50 but because feminism is so strong with the average woman today, 1.00
01:06:54 you can live happily ever after, but probably after a momentary death. 1.00
01:06:59 Exactly.
01:06:59 That's all I'm saying.
01:07:00 And my wife's book points this out, Ask Your Husband. 0.99
01:07:06 It's unusual, even more unusual for a woman to cheat on a man 0.98
01:07:09 than a man on a woman, a more unnatural vice. 1.00
01:07:12 but what women always do when they cheat is they have a simpy long-housed husband and it's one 1.00
01:07:20 that always tells them yes in the moment they want to be given controls over the purse strings or be
01:07:27 be invited to spend on whatever they want but what that does to their sexual attraction to not be 1.00
01:07:33 told no which is actually a natural aphrodisiac when we're considering what a woman's nature is
01:07:38 she she's attracted to a man that will tell her now is eventually she wants to find and she'll go
01:07:44 outside in some cases the marriage to find what she's sexually attracted to which is a delimiting 0.99
01:07:50 limit on her sovereignty her sovereignty um that's why women are attracted to bad boys or men that
01:07:58 will be a little bit mean to them i'm not suggesting that husbands should actually be
01:08:02 mean to their wives, but they should be delimiters. And so the whole point is just to put the cap on
01:08:09 there is a kind of happily ever after. If men choose to take the reins back, the reins of
01:08:17 power, it might be rough for a month or up to six months. But if a man really wants to do it,
01:08:24 he can get control of his marriage and your wife will be more sexually attracted to you once you
01:08:29 do that. That's what we tell the red pill all the time. Red pill says this doesn't work, and we're 0.89
01:08:34 like, you're claiming that nature doesn't work? I thought you guys are naturalists, man. I thought
01:08:39 you're like, you know, Bronze Age pervert or whatever, adjacent. We're the true naturalists,
01:08:45 the Christians, in this sense, men and women, intersexuality, and I think we have to reclaim
01:08:50 that boldly. Well said. And what role do you think other women, you think about the context of
01:08:56 marriage and you know a wife might have friends who are in her ear giving her sort of advice and
01:09:01 saying hey no actually this is how your husband should should behave like what's your perspective
01:09:05 on what role that actually has and sort of women feeding into this themselves and in their friend
01:09:10 group into this sort of uh this feminist mentality and sort of actually trying to go against their 1.00
01:09:16 natural as you put it their natural cravings and sort of natural desire within a relationship 1.00
01:09:21 It depends on temperaments, female, you know, women married friend groups, because it's such an age of toxic females, unless your wife is really one of those ones who she's been red, red pilled in a Christian way, patriarchy pilled, and she can really preponderate as a kind of leader or the loudest voice in the friend group, then it's going to be toxic and you're going to have to drown it out. 0.94
01:09:45 If she's having to hear from the rank-and-file, then we know what the rank-and-file is. 0.53
01:09:49 They're all Agent Smiths, right?
01:09:52 They're Matrix Agent Smiths. 1.00
01:09:53 Nobody hates women like women hate women. 1.00
01:09:55 No, it's true.
01:09:57 It's true.
01:09:58 They love to hate each other.
01:09:59 They'll give each other bad advice.
01:10:00 They do.
01:10:01 Oh, that looks great.
01:10:02 It looks terrible.
01:10:03 Right.
01:10:03 Yeah.
01:10:03 To destroy, because there's a sense of jealousy there. 0.99
01:10:06 Women friend groups do not have that bond that men do.
01:10:09 That's just how God's made the world.
01:10:10 It's a fact.
01:10:11 It's a fact.
01:10:11 That's why I'm saying, unless you have a really strong patriarchal woman, patriarchal in the sense that she loves her husband and she realizes what she is, a helpmeet in her essence, in her nature, as the head of the group of women, this is why I think an older woman, maybe with younger women, is biblical, as it expressly is in the Pauline passages.
01:10:37 it might be hard to have a female friend group that heads in a direction of travel toward patriarchy
01:10:45 if they're all peers, because there's just going to be so much peer pressure. 1.00
01:10:50 They're the great conformers, females, right? 0.92
01:10:52 And they're going to go with where the status quo is.
01:10:55 And right now, the status quo is being changed by guys like us four, but it's not changed yet.
01:11:01 And so, you know, that's the hedgy language I would use for female friend groups. 0.98
01:11:06 Yeah, I've said that several times that women are NPCs and not just like non-player character that they, you know, have no, no, you know, rationale or ability to think. 1.00
01:11:19 But NPC naturally pursuing consensus. Right. You know, and so like when you think like, what would it take for the average woman to change? 1.00
01:11:28 It actually doesn't require going and changing individual hearts and minds one at a time.
01:11:34 Now, we need to do that hard work on the ground with the individual women that God has entrusted to us, our wives, our daughters, so on and so forth.
01:11:43 But in terms of culturally, in the macro, you don't have to persuade all the women, you know, to agree to repeal the 19th Amendment, you know, or to, you know, to leave the workforce and go back home.
01:11:56 you know um what all you have to do is is you have to uh to win uh optically um the the battle 1.00
01:12:04 at the top level um and and women will like shockingly fast will just fall in line the 1.00
01:12:12 moment that it begins to seem as though like the momentum is on this side you know is the moment
01:12:17 that there seems to be critical mass the moment that like then women will be like oh yeah i believe
01:12:21 that i've always believed that yeah that's just who they are so that so but you know right now 1.00
01:12:27 because feminism reigns the day uh sadly uh you have that natural instinct of women naturally 1.00
01:12:33 pursuing consensus working in the wrong misordered direction working against us um but not just with
01:12:39 a friend group the thing that i i wanted to ask and bring up briefly is um especially in regards
01:12:44 to their family one of the most difficult things that um as i'm counseling you know uh young
01:12:51 married couples and that i've dealt with you know personally in my own experience is um you know
01:12:58 the command to honor thy father and mother um and coupling that with uh just the statistical reality
01:13:05 that uh the average woman even if she is persuaded and seeks to be um a patriarchal woman uh submitting
01:13:13 and obeying her husband her own parents will be actively seeking in many cases to dissuade her
01:13:19 her sisters her brothers her so she's gonna have all her family and it's not gonna be like uh we
01:13:25 love Lilith you know and no it's no it's gonna be we're concerned for you we love you and you know
01:13:32 you used to think this way and there were certain things about you that uh that we miss I remember
01:13:37 when you're a little girl you know you always wanted to be a veterinarian you know and I hate
01:13:42 to see it's it's your who you are is being eroded and erased and and i'm concerned for you i feel
01:13:50 like you're you're losing yourself like that's the language that's the frame that will be presented
01:13:55 and not just by friends um it'll be presented by parents it'll be presented by fathers it'll be
01:14:01 presented by sisters um and that's so tragic what do you how do you counsel um individuals in that
01:14:10 instance i'm so glad you brought that up because it's such a shrewd disclaimer don't expect it to
01:14:16 be lilith worshiping jewish feminists um yeah women who are i mean it will be but it won't
01:14:23 be said out loud that's behind the scenes that's wizard of oz stuff but now that there are we
01:14:28 didn't really get to this historically that the historical morphology is now there are christian 1.00
01:14:33 feminists everywhere. The host is infected, been infected by the parasite. And so now Christianity 1.00
01:14:41 just has all these feminists that don't even bother to call themselves feminists. And a lot 0.97
01:14:46 of them are conservative right-wing dads who think that they want powerful women to go to college
01:14:51 and be powerful conservative voices for Jesus. So it's really interesting. When I was theology
01:15:01 department chairman, eventually got fired in the crazy summer of BLM for a bunch of tweets
01:15:07 at a high school.
01:15:09 Based.
01:15:09 Thank you.
01:15:10 Yeah. 1.00
01:15:10 And attacking a number of other, you know, I think Islam's Jews, gays.
01:15:16 It was a summer, so it was weird to be fired, particularly a theology department chair. 1.00
01:15:21 But I would say this, the year before I got fired, the only complaints from parents I
01:15:28 God, and it was in California, but a relatively conservative enclave of that state in the
01:15:33 farming interior, it wasn't for saying things against Judaism, Islam, or the left as such.
01:15:42 It was for encouraging women to, if you have to go to college, get the MRS degree and get
01:15:49 out.
01:15:50 If your parents say, oh, remember when you used to want to be a veterinarian?
01:15:54 go take that first year and say dad look if you are still willing to pay the other three years
01:16:01 of college thanks could I use this for a down payment I found a goodly husband in my first
01:16:07 in my freshman year of college I don't want to go more into debt I don't want to waste money
01:16:11 because I'm not going to use this degree or it might take longer than that to find a husband
01:16:16 but hey a lot of girls have found a really high quality boyfriend senior year of high school and
01:16:24 they're being encouraged by their conservative fathers, Christian fathers, to flush this down
01:16:29 the toilet. And it's usually in those college years that guys and girls go off to college and 0.94
01:16:35 defile themselves and just run up their body counts and make themselves unmarriageable by
01:16:43 all decent measures. So it's really important that late high school kids and early freshman
01:16:51 year of college, kids know, well, I have this conflict of interest, given what my parents and
01:16:58 teachers and all of society is telling me, I feel young and fecund and fertile. And it's not
01:17:05 unnatural or premature for someone to date when they're 17 or 18, depending on prudential
01:17:11 differences. And once you're old enough to date, you're old enough to get married. And what parents
01:17:18 would get really mad at me for, conservative parents, was encouraging people to, you know,
01:17:23 as a Catholic, same as the Orthodox, we have vocation. Either get married, that's a vocation,
01:17:29 or pursue a, you know, the priesthood or religious life. Parents should not be blocking vocations,
01:17:36 and marriage is a vocation. So if you find a high quality boyfriend or girlfriend and you're 17 or
01:17:42 18, pursue marriage early. Not everyone finds that, but you don't need to live the Christian 1.00
01:17:50 life. You don't even need two college degrees, same as you don't need two incomes. And it's 0.99
01:17:55 actually sort of proscribed the more you look into it. Yeah. Well said. Let's do this. We wanted
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01:24:32 timothy phenomenal that clip um i just i mean what a woman is she is her husband's helpmate 0.84
01:24:46 made from his rib to guard his heart she is to wear she is to wear what he likes
01:24:54 she is to obey him in all things deferential and prudential um i'm listening to that and
01:25:00 I'm just thinking, I'm a Reformed Protestant, and I'm not ashamed of my tradition.
01:25:07 I am ashamed of my camp.
01:25:10 I'm not ashamed of the tradition.
01:25:12 I love the tradition.
01:25:13 But the people who are modern Reformed guys today who have influence and who are leading the way,
01:25:22 I'm watching that clip, and names of pastors with large platforms are just going through my head.
01:25:28 and i know and i'm not trying to be extreme or emotion i know that um not one of them would
01:25:35 ever ever produce a film with those lines in it never at best they they would do that and
01:25:44 immediately follow it up with 40 minutes of clarifications and how those lines don't really
01:25:49 actually mean what they mean you know and so they would either do it and then and then spend
01:25:54 the rest of their lives working to undo it or they just wouldn't do it at all or in most cases
01:26:02 to be brutally honest about reformed ministers today they would uh they would play that or i'm
01:26:08 sorry they wouldn't play they would actually produce volumes of books and podcasts and lectures
01:26:14 against that why a um why a woman in fearing the lord and seeking to be feminine absolutely does
01:26:23 not need to wear what her husband likes absolutely does not need to uh obey her husband in all
01:26:31 matters deferential and prudential um i mean that that's literally i like it's it's it's so on the
01:26:38 nose it's um it's insane like like there was there was a whole little controversy you know
01:26:46 within the reformed neck of the woods just just a few months back and it was on um uh does a husband
01:26:53 have a authority um to um to ask his wife to wear a red dress um you know and and we were the only
01:27:03 ones i there might have been like one other group of of some guys reformed guys that we appreciate
01:27:09 and we've partnered with uh other than the two of us we were like the only ones to say yes he does
01:27:15 it's not a sin to wear a red dress assuming it's not skimpy and immodest it's not a sin and as
01:27:21 provider and protector and head of the house if he um is providing for her you know um ideally
01:27:30 more than just one red dress you know so it's not like you have to wear the same dress every day
01:27:34 you know without it ever being washed or something but it's like hey i have seven red dresses and for
01:27:39 the foreseeable future i think that red speaks to you know there's something about beauty and roses
01:27:45 and femininity and the dress and the way that it flows and we have young daughters in the home and
01:27:50 I want them to see you in this. 1.00
01:27:52 We're swarmed by feminism. 1.00
01:27:54 I want to make a statement for the foreseeable future, 1.00
01:27:56 for my pleasure, first and foremost,
01:28:00 simply my pleasure, there's enough reason,
01:28:02 as your husband,
01:28:03 and second, for setting,
01:28:05 exemplifying godly womanhood for our daughters in the home,
01:28:08 and as a statement of the beauty
01:28:11 of patriarchal Christianity to the world,
01:28:14 for the foreseeable future, 0.99
01:28:16 I want you to wear a red dress every day.
01:28:18 and and that was that was the the case study and reformed minister after reformed minister
01:28:25 after reformed minister who pride themselves in being complementarian and we would never have a
01:28:32 woman you know as an elder um all came out saying a husband does not have that authority that is
01:28:38 abusive a wife in that situation you know she should go and and um she should actually run
01:28:44 and tell on her husband to the to the elders of the church wow um and and and i'm and i'm just
01:28:49 watching that and i'm thinking and it grieves me deeply grieves me i'm watching that and thinking
01:28:55 um there i i don't know any protestant tradition today i do historically but today uh that would
01:29:06 um that would have supported you in this film if like and not just because of the catholic stuff
01:29:11 Like if you had just produced this as a broader film and didn't really make it particularly Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant, I don't think you would have gotten any support from anyone but us.
01:29:25 Well, this goes back to the politeness contest we were having in the kitchen here when I was like, I thought Protestants were better on this, and you were like, I thought Catholics were better on it.
01:29:35 I was just appreciative for the... We had an Orthodox Jay Dyer in, and we used Rachel Wilson's 0.61
01:29:42 book. She's an Orthodox scholar, and I'm friends with Andrew and Rachel as well. But I'm appreciative
01:29:48 deeply to Father Chad, the exorcist, because you'll remember that one section in the film when he
01:29:54 runs through side-by-side Father Mike Schmitz, huge, huge podcast, Bible in a Year, and Father
01:30:02 mike schmitz runs through this circular square called mutual submission joel that i remember
01:30:09 that and father chad was like we had like a red x and father chad's like this is absurd here's why
01:30:14 then he went through another dimension of what father mike at ascension presents humongous
01:30:19 ministry was just saying false words false gospel and he said nope here's why that's wrong
01:30:24 um so we just appreciated anyone any christian that's willing to partner with us on this to
01:30:30 speak the truth to the emperor who's where who's nude claiming to be wearing new clothes and of
01:30:36 course a red dress if his husband likes it and it's it's modest then go for it or i would say
01:30:41 this if it's somewhat immodest but it's inside the house right you know that's another thing
01:30:46 that's um i mean what guys out there wouldn't if it would help the the marital act along wouldn't
01:30:54 wear a certain outfit for their wives this isn't even i'm not even i'm not an egalitarian i don't
01:30:59 believe in egalitarianism, but most guys would be willing to do this. Goodly women, godly women
01:31:05 are like, yeah, just help me pick out dresses. It's a fun Christmas tradition I have for my 0.94
01:31:11 wife is shopping for clothes. She loves the dresses I pick out for her. So it's really a shame that
01:31:18 there aren't more Christians, Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants. I was just talking to Andrew Wilson
01:31:25 in his house last night about how few Orthodox are willing to join them. I thought they were 0.74
01:31:30 better than Catholics, too, because I think we're the worst. We're each pointing inwardly. 1.00
01:31:35 But Christendom has just been overrun with feminism. And, you know, what about the men, 0.84
01:31:41 though, as Andrew calls it? What about the men? Well, you didn't even say what men are doing
01:31:45 wrong here. Or, yeah, should men really tell their wives what they're attracted to? Yes. 0.98
01:31:52 Yes. Another thing we got heavy pressure to take out of the film that, again, thank you to
01:31:56 CandaceOwens.com for not pressuring us to. I'd rather have the disclaimer than pressure
01:32:02 is to say that wives as well as husbands should aim to be thin. That was a big one that we weren't 1.00
01:32:08 expecting. I heard that little word there as I was playing. I was like, oh, snap. That was the main
01:32:12 one. That was great. We were like, look, I mean, I've gained some Christmas pounds myself. A lot
01:32:17 of people have this time of the year, but everyone, man and woman alike, I think especially women,
01:32:22 are aiming this time of the year to shave those off.
01:32:25 And body positivity is something we didn't talk about today,
01:32:28 but it's really, really, really, really, really diabolic and evil.
01:32:32 And so just anyone that watched this film and said,
01:32:35 yeah, full stop, the producer and the director of this thing,
01:32:39 Tim and Nick, wanted to get together
01:32:41 and make sure that everything is all the way to the hilt.
01:32:46 Any viewers that watched it
01:32:48 or people that are going to be intermediate passers-on
01:32:51 of the film like yourselves, Joel et al, that watched it and don't try to shave something off
01:32:57 like thank you. What we want is scriptural patriarchy. That's the only way forward for
01:33:02 society. It's going to crumble without it. Yeah. All right. Well said. So go watch the film,
01:33:09 pay the buck 99. It's at candaceowens.com. That's where you'll find it. And yeah, you should watch
01:33:16 it. Let's go ahead and do the super chats. Antonio, will you read the first? Yep. Dakota
01:33:20 Davis sent $5. We appreciate that. And so that's good morning. Should the church in Minnesota have
01:33:25 used physical force to defend themselves yesterday? How do the Beatitudes govern the
01:33:29 church when under attack? So I've given this a lot of thoughts. Our church, we have a pretty,
01:33:34 pretty heavy duty security team just because of my public presence and all the controversy
01:33:46 that I often find myself in.
01:33:48 And so, you know, for us, we have security, you know, waiting at the door.
01:33:54 I think the big problem, once they're in there, man, it's a mess.
01:33:58 It's a mess.
01:33:58 And so we have multiple security at the door.
01:34:01 And as soon as the service starts, so even a few minutes before,
01:34:06 the doors are all, they're locked.
01:34:09 And so nobody can get in.
01:34:10 And security is still standing, looking through the door, glass door.
01:34:14 and so they would not be able to uh to come in and they would be questioned if they're not
01:34:19 a member of the church that we recognize and they're coming late um you know like halfway
01:34:25 through the service or even just 10 minutes into the service at any point uh once the service
01:34:29 begins uh anybody who's trying to get through the door has to be recognized if not they're going to
01:34:33 be stopped and questioned so i think the the biggest thing the biggest problem that i saw with
01:34:38 that is how did they get inside to begin with? Your church doors should be locked. We're at war.
01:34:46 Your church doors should be locked once the service begins or a few minutes before or after.
01:34:51 You should have security the entire time there. We have earpieces for all of our security. Our
01:34:56 security, of course, are carrying. But in addition to that, virtually every man in the church is
01:35:01 carrying. I have body armor that I'm wearing. I have a shield that I am able to keep beneath
01:35:08 the pulpit i am carrying on my person um as well and um and security is constantly talking to each
01:35:14 other uh during uh during the service if there's anyone they don't recognize anybody that they find
01:35:19 to be suspicious so i think the biggest thing is keeping them out um and and if you had kept them
01:35:25 out then it requires them to actually try to break in actually trying to break down the door
01:35:31 um or push or shove and and that would you know uh their way in and then that i think would
01:35:37 you'd have a much better case of um of you know taking lethal means because if they're breaking
01:35:43 down the window or something like that um then i think you you would just you'd have a better case
01:35:48 now we're in texas um so we'd have an even stronger case in the state of texas with its uh its laws
01:35:54 you know castle laws and those kinds of things um but once they're in like we saw in the case of
01:35:59 minnesota one you're in a terrible state uh that is not going to favor you and you need to consider
01:36:04 that two um you somehow some way you did not guard the door and so now you have multiple protesters
01:36:11 who are in the sanctuary uh during the middle of the service this isn't before the service they
01:36:16 came in during the middle of the service on the lord's day they're in the sanctuary they're now
01:36:20 terrorizing children and women um and at that point you know to pull a gun out once they're
01:36:26 already in and and they're not actually touching you at that point see that like that's what you 0.64
01:36:31 That's what you would have to do in a nutshell.
01:36:33 You would have to set it up in such a way that they would have to use force to get in in the first place.
01:36:38 So then you could meet force with force.
01:36:40 But instead, they never had to use force.
01:36:43 And so it's really hard to make a case of self-defense because they just walked freely in and they're not touching anybody.
01:36:49 They're just shouting and filming and walking around, you know, and questioning.
01:36:53 And so then to meet that with force, especially in the state of Minnesota, you're like you're going to jail.
01:36:59 Tim Walz personally will be on his way to the church to lock you up.
01:37:03 Forever.
01:37:03 So my answer to this is you can't let them inside.
01:37:09 You should be locking your doors before the service,
01:37:11 not unlocking them until after the service.
01:37:14 If there's anyone who comes late to church,
01:37:16 they should be someone that you're able to recognize.
01:37:18 If they're not, then you need to be able to right there at the door.
01:37:23 It's locked.
01:37:24 They can't get inside.
01:37:25 You're able to ask them questions.
01:37:27 You can step outside.
01:37:28 if they try to push back now it's force um and and you can respond you can see if they're with
01:37:33 20 other people okay one person trying to come in maybe he missed directions 20 people with signs
01:37:39 whoa yeah and think about that this was uh they they came in the building after the service had
01:37:45 already started in the middle of the church service and not just one you know looking like
01:37:50 oh i'm just coming to hear the the word of god as a visitor and i just happened to be late
01:37:55 i got lost or something no a group of like 20 30 people halfway through the service they never
01:38:01 should have been able to get inside never so i and i just think that you know and i don't i don't
01:38:07 want to uh disparage this this precious church that's worshiping the lord and it's just been
01:38:12 through this ordeal so i'm not trying to pick on them but i'm saying uh i hope that this
01:38:19 wakes Christians up, and they realize, oh, we really are at war, and that they act accordingly.
01:38:27 No group of protesters should be able to get inside a church during the middle of the service.
01:38:33 So I don't know.
01:38:34 All right, we'll keep going.
01:38:36 The Edgerow Whistle sent $5 and says, welcome to the Wisdom White Beard Club, Joel.
01:38:41 It's coming in faster now after the last few months, and you've earned it.
01:38:44 We need a more based white beard rep.
01:38:47 When I first saw the Wisdom White, I thought it was Wilson White, like Doug Wilson and James White.
01:38:51 And I was like, oh, Wisdom slash White.
01:38:54 Here's the thing. 0.59
01:38:55 By the grace of God, I'm not a perfect man, not even close.
01:38:57 But by the grace of God, I've done a lot as Joel the Gray. 0.74
01:39:00 But I return to you now as Joel the White. 0.87
01:39:04 There we go.
01:39:05 How old were you, Joel, when you realized that you could grow the phenomenal beard?
01:39:10 So I was about four or five years.
01:39:12 tonight no it was actually i was 16 and uh when i was 16 i won a great battle no uh i was 16 years
01:39:21 old i was in high school and all my friends i know this is you know super gay but all my friends
01:39:27 were uh in one act play and so just to spend time with my friends and also i realized that i could
01:39:33 get out of like a class and one act play would count as uh one of one of the periods that i
01:39:38 could go to instead of going to something else that would be far worse and so i joined one act
01:39:43 play and one of the big reasons i did it was to spend time with my friends and secondly um because
01:39:48 i i realized that there was uh the principal had made an exception if anybody was on the drama team
01:39:53 and they were in one act play competing with other schools uh that they would be permitted because
01:39:58 there was a like no facial hair policy at the school but they could have uh an exemption and
01:40:03 so i was like you know like the only you know high schooler that was able to have a full beard and so
01:40:08 so that's why i joined one act play and uh you know and i was like i'm gonna see if i can grow
01:40:13 a beard i was 16 years old and i was like oh my have you ever shaved it since i can grow a beard
01:40:17 truly i yes i have i have shaved it but no i have never had really any long season of being smooth
01:40:24 faced you're like the james harden of like no one knows what you'd look like yeah i'll probably
01:40:32 never know think about this in heaven if he's resurrected with that beard all of eternity i'm
01:40:36 never going to know what clean-shaven
01:40:38 Joel looks like.
01:40:40 I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing.
01:40:42 Edger Whistle followed up with a $2
01:40:44 super chat to say,
01:40:45 thank you for your work and effort,
01:40:48 Timothy G.
01:40:50 Going to the next one, maybe we'll turn this to you,
01:40:52 Timothy. Justin Holt 2247
01:40:54 sent $5 and says, when does it go
01:40:56 from just helping with dishes and diapers
01:40:58 because that's loving my wife and she needs help 1.00
01:41:00 today, to a simp wearing a 1.00
01:41:02 metaphorical dress?
01:41:04 I would say that
01:41:06 If you want to see where these two parallel lines can be bent somewhere in eternity to meet justice and mercy around the household economy, I would say they can insofar as have your wife, because you're the master of ceremonies around your house as the man, have your wife tell you what's your least favorite chore. 1.00
01:41:30 This is what I did with Steph, and she's an amazing cleaner. 0.99
01:41:35 She's like a whirlwind cleaner. 1.00
01:41:37 She runs through with eight kids and cleans two or three times a day,
01:41:41 and it's fast, and we like to play video games, watch movies,
01:41:46 do things as a family once we get done.
01:41:48 So she's a whiz at cleaning really fast. 0.80
01:41:51 She's a good cook, but laundry. 1.00
01:41:54 Laundry's the bet noir.
01:41:56 So I just say, look, just don't beat yourself up on laundry.
01:42:01 We can all fold or, you know, you can fold, you know, once every week or something like that and do it in front of movies.
01:42:09 And sometimes I would help you there.
01:42:11 But it's important to rather than just take over the jobs yourself, which really does corrupt the economy.
01:42:20 You know, I'm not saying if she's sick or something like that, you can't do it.
01:42:24 But it ought to be that level of exceptionality.
01:42:26 Otherwise, you're corrupting the economy of the household, the way it works.
01:42:30 You go to work.
01:42:31 You don't ask her to go to work for you unless it's an extreme, extenuating circumstance.
01:42:37 I would just say be lax with maybe her least favorite chore.
01:42:43 But that's just one guy's impression.
01:42:44 The real answer is that prudential judgment or phronesis in the Greek is what you wield as a sword and as a shield, and so you can be as stringent or as lenient as you want to be.
01:42:59 I would just say your wife's probably your favorite person on earth, and to maximize time, you know, I'm not a slave driver, but you're not going to see me doing the dishes either way.
01:43:12 Also, that's why you have a lot of kids, so you can make them do children.
01:43:15 I was thinking about that.
01:43:17 I mean, it's different when the kids are itty-bitty,
01:43:19 but as the kids age, a husband can help his wife as master of ceremonies
01:43:25 by directing, commanding the children to help the wife.
01:43:29 Exactly. 0.86
01:43:30 Employing the children to help your queen.
01:43:34 Exactly.
01:43:35 Yeah, one of the shames we didn't even touch on in this episode,
01:43:38 but one of the shames, I guess, of modernity 0.95
01:43:40 is actually the eradication of the multi-generational household. 0.98
01:43:42 And you just think about the ways in which even 100 years ago, 0.69
01:43:47 a woman might be supported by the husband's mother or her own mother
01:43:52 or her sister who was unmarried, and the ways that, as that sort of eradicated,
01:43:56 even stay-at-home mothers, homemakers today, they don't have that support, 1.00
01:44:00 but they're still trying to fulfill that duty.
01:44:03 And so it obviously incumbent upon a husband to love his wife in a way of,
01:44:07 like you said, sort of arranging the household such that she's not overworked or flustered or
01:44:12 discouraged and those sorts of things. So Lord willing, we can regain that, I think, in the West
01:44:18 and see sort of a better balance, if you will. For several reasons. It's not a truly pro-life
01:44:23 culture. You know, you can't just eradicate abortion. You have to eradicate euthanasia and
01:44:28 the attitudes attendant to abortion and euthanasia. Usually that follows suit, but it's sort of pre and
01:44:35 post and uh and that that really is is best accomplished effectuated by having multi-generation
01:44:44 households so you can actually appreciate what the older generations can offer right now you're
01:44:49 kind of lying or larping if you're not raised with old people in the home if you're not just like 0.83
01:44:55 what what do old people do you need to be raised with with old people who can contribute to the 0.91
01:45:01 household and they contribute different things than a middle-aged father or mother do yeah well 0.89
01:45:06 said uh west go ahead and uh take us through uh the next couple all right wolf capital sent in a
01:45:13 20 super chat very generous thank you hidden said this great channel and discussion keep it up gents
01:45:18 thank you that one reply guy sent five dollars and then sent a second one that comes with a question
01:45:23 all caps he said love thee and uh there's going to be about five words here with a lot of letters
01:45:30 that I don't think quite belong.
01:45:32 Love the pose-ass guys.
01:45:34 He'll work.
01:45:34 Moving on.
01:45:35 One question.
01:45:36 Do you think it would be a good idea
01:45:37 to annex Canada?
01:45:40 I love the America as an imperial nation,
01:45:42 imperial empire idea.
01:45:44 We'll have to expand more on it sometime,
01:45:45 but there could be a time
01:45:46 where we rescue our Canadian brothers
01:45:49 and sisters up north,
01:45:50 but I don't think soon.
01:45:52 Yeah.
01:45:52 Yeah, not anytime soon. 1.00
01:45:57 You've got to get rid of universal suffrage.
01:45:59 you got to get rid of democracy you got it like i'm not uh excited about including you know 0.96
01:46:04 whatever it is 42 you know million libtards and uh 30 million indians another 12 million libtards 0.97
01:46:11 yeah into our our sacred democracy so you would have to you'd have to clean up some stuff annex 0.96
01:46:16 india annex canada what do you mean but yeah but canada as a province underneath an empire that
01:46:22 actually functions as an empire you know that's uh much more of a republic with some elements of
01:46:27 aristocracy and certainly not democracy i could you know i think that we could get there in the
01:46:33 meantime i think you just take whatever uh whatever we want from canada because they're not a real
01:46:38 country joel we were both i won't say what show it was it was a show where uh one guy is surrounded
01:46:48 by several other guys oh yeah we were supposed to appear on the christian nationalism yeah they
01:46:53 What happened with that?
01:46:54 They buried it.
01:46:55 They said there were going to be callbacks.
01:46:57 There weren't callbacks.
01:46:57 I guess they did it without us.
01:46:59 I think we figured out who was going to be surrounded. 0.93
01:47:03 And usually they want to get a dumber surrounding audience than the guy in the center. 0.96
01:47:07 And we were going to obliterate the guy. 0.97
01:47:10 It turned out to be James Tallarico.
01:47:11 We'd correctly used context clues to guess it.
01:47:14 So he's a Texas congressman.
01:47:17 You and I and some other really smart people were going to be surrounding him.
01:47:21 That would not have gone well
01:47:24 It would not have been well for him
01:47:25 I think that's why they did away with it
01:47:26 But I do want to talk about
01:47:29 The competing forms of Christian nationalism
01:47:32 With you at some point
01:47:33 Competing friendly like
01:47:35 Because I'm not an empire guy
01:47:36 I'm a small r republic guy
01:47:39 And even talking about 0.88
01:47:42 State establishments of Christianity 0.79
01:47:43 As a really realistic thing
01:47:45 Is a conversation for another
01:47:49 Yeah no we should talk about it
01:47:50 And I think there's, you know, there's a progression of, you know, like, in my view, there's a progression of how you get to certain, you know, later stages.
01:47:58 But right now, it seems like there's really a global, you know, worldwide return to nationalism.
01:48:05 And I think that that's good.
01:48:06 So I think the emphasis right now absolutely needs to be nationalism and any empirical elements.
01:48:11 I wouldn't want to see those at the expense of nationalism.
01:48:15 The difficulty is just that, like, right now, it's like we already have an empire.
01:48:20 both globally and in our our foreign you know influence but also um but also even domestically
01:48:27 like right now part of the problem is that uh you know people are like oh we don't want ethno
01:48:31 nationalism it's like okay you don't you don't want national nationalism okay like i don't know
01:48:35 what that means um and and so right now it's like we already are like a geographic geographically
01:48:40 concentrated empire like we have the nation of somalia right we have the nation of haiti we have
01:48:46 the nation of you know fill in the blank like we're not one nation that's why we have so much
01:48:50 division yes we have division ideologically and religiously like there are plenty of people who
01:48:55 are white as the driven snow and they are terrible you know it's like you know they're they're 0.54
01:49:01 demonic and you know like joe biden i i wish that i could find that he's actually jewish but as far 0.86
01:49:06 as i can tell the dude's just white and hates america you know and he's catholic and hates
01:49:10 christians oh exactly so you know so i i'm i'm the first to admit that you know that it's it's 0.97
01:49:15 not just um foreigners and it's not just jews um there are plenty of people they probably are 0.72
01:49:22 direct descendants of king alfred and are trying to destroy our nation but i think the point still 0.71
01:49:28 stands that we are um we're not a nation right now sadly we are a collection of different nations
01:49:33 so i think there's already this empirical element of we're trying to function and i think that's why
01:49:39 like at first we just need to achieve uh nationalism and like that's why we need mass
01:49:44 deportations ilhan omar should like somali there should not be in a somalian enclave inside these 0.98
01:49:51 united states you know so it's like we got to get all them out and get one one nation and uh one 0.92
01:49:58 ethnicity that's you know that's distinctly christian it's distinctly western it's distinctly
01:50:03 american it may not be one race um i don't think that it would be with our history and but uh but
01:50:09 it would be one ethnos and in those and those other senses uh but it would be still in the
01:50:15 racial aspect it still would be predominantly white and i think that that it should be predominantly
01:50:19 white um and so i think we've got to achieve that first and and then there could be conversations
01:50:24 about my contribution to that eventual conversation is just that um no conservatives now right-wing
01:50:31 based right-wing dissident right-wing normie are talking about political geography and political
01:50:37 geography is the missing component to the right-wing segment of right-wingers that want to
01:50:45 do away with pluralism, because I hate pluralism. You hate pluralism. We believe in a res publica,
01:50:50 meaning a public thing that we agree with. I'm not supposed to be able to coexist with someone
01:50:54 that believes in the Babylonian Talmud or the Quran or in nothing. I'm supposed to be able to
01:51:02 coexist only with other Christians and people that look like me and talk like me. But this is
01:51:07 not a reality if we believe that res publica can be a third of a billion people strong. If you want
01:51:16 to keep your little comic book club pure, only the true believers, you got to keep it small. If you
01:51:21 want to keep it small, you keep it pure. A third of a billion res publica never happened. So if you
01:51:26 study the ancient republics, I'm talking the Swiss cantons, who all of our founding fathers
01:51:33 looked to, lasted a thousand years. They're very small. If you talk about Venice, 1200 year long
01:51:40 republic, it was very small. England, before it became an empire and ruined itself by becoming
01:51:45 an empire, was just very small. Malta, you know, all of these lasted over a thousand years by being 0.93
01:51:52 small. And yes, I hate pluralism. I love unicity. I believe in a res publica, but it's got to be
01:51:57 small. That's why states' rights has got to be the center of an emerging Christian nationalism, 0.98
01:52:03 in my strong view. You'll get guys that say... No, I think that's a good point. 1.00
01:52:06 Think about guys that say, who's the most powerful country in the world? It's Israel. And it's like, 0.83
01:52:12 yeah, maybe. And think about how small they are. They're the size of New Jersey. So you don't need
01:52:17 to be geographically large to be powerful.
01:52:20 Also, Canada, huge geographically, very weak.
01:52:23 Mexico, geographic expanse.
01:52:26 It's a Federalist 10 lie that we borrow from James Madison,
01:52:30 and it's been very pervasive and very corruptive,
01:52:33 corrosive of American thought.
01:52:35 It's bad.
01:52:35 Political geography matters a lot.
01:52:37 That's a great point.
01:52:38 I think you're right, and I offer states' rights,
01:52:41 but I think that we're so divided at this point
01:52:43 and infiltrated that I think it would,
01:52:46 And it seems as though it would have to be more than states' rights
01:52:49 because I just don't think that California is ever going to agree with Kansas.
01:52:54 It seems like secession might be the only possibility.
01:53:01 And nationally, the Respublica should be something like the Nicene Creed,
01:53:05 which I think I first heard you say.
01:53:06 I've said that, yeah.
01:53:06 Yeah.
01:53:08 Each state is confessional to one sect of Christianity
01:53:11 the way original America was under the First Amendment, 0.70
01:53:14 nine of the 13. 0.82
01:53:15 It was Maryland that was Catholic, right?
01:53:18 None of them were confessionally Catholic.
01:53:20 Nine of the 13 were, there were just nine sects of Christianity, Protestant Christians.
01:53:26 Maryland was almost close enough to be one, but only four of the states after the First Amendment were not creedally, confessionally one.
01:53:34 So have one, each state have its official establishment of religion, which the First Amendment actually guaranteed the right of until 1947.
01:53:43 and um then yeah be united by at the national level that's that's been my thought is national
01:53:49 level would not be confessional but rather would be creedal yeah and so it would be you know
01:53:52 apostles creed nicene creed things that both protestants and orthodox and catholics can all
01:53:58 agree on i love it you don't have a conflict from the national level to the state level
01:54:01 and then states could be more particular and you would have you know you would have states that
01:54:05 were catholic you'd have um i don't know if the eo guys could even get one state i don't know if
01:54:11 Rhode Island?
01:54:12 One city?
01:54:13 Yeah, but maybe you have one state that's EO,
01:54:17 and you'd have a few at this point that are Catholic.
01:54:20 And then with the Protestant ones,
01:54:22 one would be Presbyterian, one would be Anglican,
01:54:25 one would be, you know, so on and so forth.
01:54:27 Okay.
01:54:27 I love it.
01:54:28 Great, let's keep going.
01:54:29 P.O. Andrews sent $5 and asks,
01:54:32 how do I effectively support the Christian patriarchy
01:54:35 at the office, especially with female bosses? 1.00
01:54:38 You tell it, don't. 0.99
01:54:39 Go ahead, Timothy.
01:54:40 don't get fired hide your power levels yeah i mean at this point the way that hr infiltrated as
01:54:48 the um sword and the shield of of feminism in the workplace so it's really really hard at this point
01:54:58 until we get females out of the workplace more predominantly so basically keep your job and 0.98
01:55:06 And don't do anything that's undignified, but there's really no benefit in pretending that HR is not buying for females and that the workplace is not gynecratic because like all the rest of the public spaces in America, it's completely gynecratic. 0.99
01:55:26 So you have to cover your six first. 1.00
01:55:29 Focus on your home.
01:55:30 Once you go home, everyone, it doesn't matter how, as a Catholic or an Orthodox or a Protestant,
01:55:38 it doesn't matter how liberal or feminist your preacher or your bishop is,
01:55:42 you can always take the power back in your home. 0.73
01:55:45 And that's where, read the case for patriarchy or ask your husband or any of Joel's suggestions.
01:55:52 Tend to that first.
01:55:54 That's the real oikonomia. 0.91
01:55:55 that's your home and worry about the workplace later you're just there to earn a buck um you 0.66
01:56:02 know you don't need to make it's not a real uh patriarchal household anyway it's not a true
01:56:06 economy of its own yeah i don't think it's changing the workplace i think if anything it's
01:56:12 getting your home in order and then bringing uh reattaching work back to the home right to have
01:56:16 productive households so i would say the solution there is not to convince uh the ceo of your
01:56:22 fortune 500 company to be patriarchal i think the solution is um try to uh to free yourself from the
01:56:28 plantation and to work for yourself try to you know be your own employment and then be able to 1.00
01:56:33 have your family as a part of that like the progress 31 woman you know that's constantly 1.00
01:56:38 perverted and you know it's like oh look she's a she's a boss babe she's you know she's buying a 1.00
01:56:42 field yeah with whose money you know like you know and like even when she's buying a field and you 1.00
01:56:47 Oh, she's a real estate tycoon. 1.00
01:56:49 No, no, she's not. 1.00
01:56:51 But I would say that get your home in order.
01:56:54 Don't try to persuade your business, but rather try to start a business. 0.98
01:56:58 And this glorious, godly woman who did have some elements of, you know, she was industrious, but she's industrious working for her husband. 0.99
01:57:11 Her husband is her boss, and she's working underneath.
01:57:14 So you can bring your wife and children into the family business, you know, and at different, you know, capacities that are fitting domestic feminine role and the role of children and so on and so forth. 0.78
01:57:26 So rather than convincing your job to become patriarchal, make your home patriarchal and bring your job to home if you can.
01:57:34 Yeah, and I'll just speak to this because I just recently had come from this context not that long ago. 0.84
01:57:38 And I would say, just to get really practical, too, when you're in that context surrounded by women, there are all sorts of little compromises you can avoid making, whether it's the passive aggressiveness and the gossip and those conversations that just naturally happen in that sort of office context. 0.97
01:57:55 Just avoid them. 0.99
01:57:56 And I would say even to be positive about it, bring a masculine presence, right?
01:58:00 Yeah.
01:58:00 If you do nicotine pouches, pop a nicotine pouch in during a meeting or something like that.
01:58:06 Demonstrate. 0.97
01:58:06 Pop a Zimbabwe. 1.00
01:58:07 Right, right. 0.95
01:58:08 It's, it's, it's just those little things to say in the Zen is prayer, right?
01:58:12 But also don't use in their game.
01:58:16 Use, use something that's a little bit better.
01:58:18 Fair enough.
01:58:19 Yeah.
01:58:19 So I would just, I would just say, uh, set an example, um, for even for, if it's just
01:58:23 younger men or men around you to say, Hey, look, I'm not afraid to show up, roll up my
01:58:27 sleeve and say, Hey, I'm a man and I'm not going to play the game.
01:58:30 And now obviously be shrewd about it.
01:58:32 There are different contexts. 0.99
01:58:33 You might have a, an, an overly passive aggressive female boss, for example, and you, you got
01:58:37 to play your cards right i would say like my context i had a fair bit of latitude in terms
01:58:41 of not having a direct boss if you will but but um yeah i would say um i would say just don't make
01:58:46 those little compromises that day day in and day out you're going to see sort of other people
01:58:50 sort of engaging in and making amen people like joel how do you do it how do you produce so much
01:58:55 content well who little do you know right now i'm rocking 24 milligrams as we speak all right
01:59:01 most people would be dead all right kyle sent in a 12.77 super chat not sure the significance of
01:59:09 that and asked what needs to happen for the church tradition of head coverings for women to be
01:59:13 commonplace we've talked about this some this is so good so i i wrote um dale partridge you may not
01:59:19 be aware of him he wrote a book called cover for glory and and i had the privilege of writing the
01:59:23 forward to that and have held the the head covering position for probably about five years now i'm
01:59:29 curious i assume that you're a head covering guy what yeah i'm a latin mass catholic i go to the
01:59:34 tlm you know i attend the tlm as often as i can on sundays which the nearest one is new orleans
01:59:40 and uh you always veil all of my i have seven daughters and a wife my daughters are always
01:59:46 they're covered yeah they're they're veiling and they're not considered weird it's the norm
01:59:51 at the uh tridentian latin mass if we do go inside to a novus ordo that's a post vatican
01:59:58 to mass uh they're always veiling and it it looks weird to the the normies at the novice ordo there
02:00:03 but but it's um it's it's biblical to veil so biblical yeah it's uh it's funny that you know
02:00:11 we're in texas you know god's country or at least it was you can absolutely mess with texas sadly
02:00:16 today but once upon a time uh but still there's the remnants of that uh tradition and culture and
02:00:21 you know you're at a football game and they pray before the game and all the men take off their
02:00:25 hats why right so like we've kept one half right so the man is you know it's it's shameful for a
02:00:31 man to cover his head when he's praying but but then we say oh but that's radical you know to uh
02:00:36 to do the reverse the man should not cover right and the woman should and it's it's funny that we've
02:00:41 kept one piece but not the other and uh and the piece that we've kept is the one pertaining to 0.92
02:00:46 man uh and the piece that we've you know left behind that we find offensive is the one pertaining
02:00:51 to women, which, again, just I think
02:00:53 highlights our whole point here of
02:00:55 how
02:00:56 taken we have been by
02:00:59 feminism.
02:01:01 Cleave to Antiquity said this,
02:01:03 I endorse Gordon's documentary.
02:01:05 All caps, excellent film.
02:01:07 It's a based ortho, bro.
02:01:09 I love it. 0.95
02:01:11 Ortho, Catholic, Protestant, got the whole gang
02:01:13 here. MrBeast1098 0.86
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02:01:17 of a hippo's head popping out of water
02:01:19 surrounded by hippo squad.
02:01:20 What does that even mean?
02:01:21 It's like a sticker that you put in, but it gives text to describe it.
02:01:25 Oh, I see, I see.
02:01:26 It was just a generous donation.
02:01:28 Okay.
02:01:28 All right, this says AED100.
02:01:31 I have no idea what the nomination AED is.
02:01:33 Timothy, you know everything.
02:01:34 Any idea?
02:01:35 I do not know.
02:01:38 No.
02:01:38 Arab Emirate dollar?
02:01:40 No, that would be UAE.
02:01:43 UAE?
02:01:43 Yeah.
02:01:44 Is it $100 super chat?
02:01:46 Is that what?
02:01:46 I have no idea.
02:01:47 This could be $1 in US dollars.
02:01:48 Could be pesos.
02:01:49 No, if only I had a computer ready.
02:01:50 This could be in gold ounces.
02:01:52 Arab Emirates.
02:01:53 Yeah, I was right.
02:01:54 Oh, is it?
02:01:54 Okay, you were right.
02:01:55 Arab Emirate dollar.
02:01:56 Okay, you got it.
02:01:57 Yeah, you called that.
02:01:58 Sorry.
02:01:58 It's 0.27 US dollars.
02:02:00 So it's about $27.
02:02:02 Very generous.
02:02:03 L.R. Nicholas.
02:02:04 Oh, because it's 100 of them.
02:02:06 100 of them.
02:02:06 It's 100 of them.
02:02:07 Oh, wow.
02:02:07 Okay, okay, okay.
02:02:08 I thought you were saying it's 27 cents.
02:02:10 No, no.
02:02:11 Every individual one is.
02:02:12 Thank you.
02:02:13 We appreciate it.
02:02:13 Okay, and they said this.
02:02:15 I am a Gen X female, married 35 years, praise God,
02:02:18 to a wonderful man, and I 100%
02:02:20 agree with the Christian ideal
02:02:22 of what a woman is. I wish your channel didn't 0.99
02:02:24 put alcohol as part of the set. Alcohol
02:02:26 does more harm than good.
02:02:28 Very kind comments up front. I want to say thank you for that.
02:02:30 Very kind. We appreciate God a lot. And praise God for your marriage.
02:02:32 Awesome. Your generosity and all
02:02:34 that kind of stuff. And I'm not going to
02:02:36 bash you.
02:02:38 I'm not Nick Fuentes.
02:02:40 So Nick Fuentes would not have the alcohol,
02:02:42 but he would also bash you for
02:02:44 your super chat. He hates
02:02:46 his own followers very often.
02:02:48 we we try not to do that um i i appreciate that and to be fair you're not the only person who's
02:02:53 made that comment um we do think that there's an inherent goodness uh it's not just that well
02:02:58 alcohol is is inherently bad but if you're very very careful and it's only a drop then you know
02:03:02 then it can be permissible um i would argue much further than that and say that um it's not just
02:03:07 only permissible but there is a goodness god made grass for for the cattle bread for man's stomach
02:03:12 I can whine for the gladness of his heart.
02:03:14 And so I would actually say that we are,
02:03:17 if my only two options were pro or against,
02:03:20 for or against, I would say that I am for pro-alcohol
02:03:23 and absolutely against the abuse of alcohol.
02:03:27 Whether or not it should be a part of your design
02:03:28 and your set, I think is debatable.
02:03:31 And even though I think we're in the right
02:03:34 and I can make those arguments from the scripture,
02:03:37 because every single live stream and episode we do,
02:03:40 I don't want to start with a 20-minute teaching on the inherent goodness of alcohol.
02:03:44 We may eventually get rid of it just so that people stick around.
02:03:47 We're going to put it on the table so they won't see it behind us.
02:03:49 I think you're wrong, respectfully.
02:03:50 I would say I think you're wrong to be turned off by it.
02:03:53 But if a great number of people are turned off by it, even if they're wrong,
02:03:56 I would hate to miss out on being able to reach them.
02:03:59 So I say all that to say thank you for your comment, and we'll give it consideration.
02:04:03 Timothy, I'm going to kind of combine these two.
02:04:05 You can read it on screen just to be respectful to the platform that hosted your documentary.
02:04:09 Two Super Chats from Captain Arrow.
02:04:11 They asked, why did you release the film on Candace Owens' website?
02:04:14 And they just mentioned, for example, that she works publicly with kids in the home.
02:04:18 A few answers to the question, why do you use an iPhone or an Android instead of building your own?
02:04:25 You know what I mean? 1.00
02:04:26 Literally, Catholics will do this often. 1.00
02:04:29 They'll criticize me if I have a Starbucks in a thing. 1.00
02:04:32 I also produce a lot of content, and it gets tiring.
02:04:34 You need something like coffee is what I requested when I got here.
02:04:39 And it's trifling to complain about someone, I guess, materially cooperating with a corporation they disfavor.
02:04:52 And to do so, you have to write it on your Google, iPhone, your Gmail, on YouTube, and they don't get the joke.
02:04:59 So we cooperate with people. 0.61
02:05:01 And I'm not saying Candace is...
02:05:04 Equivalent to Apple.
02:05:05 Yeah, I'm not even throwing her under the bus.
02:05:07 I'm just saying you don't like Candace, but you typed this on YouTube or Google or Gmail or
02:05:13 something. Candace has a differing view on how the assault on feminism ought to go. I would say, 1.00
02:05:22 I would hope she's coming around and coming the full circle, which would involve things like
02:05:27 not working at all. But she, like me, is a Roman Catholic, and the age-old teaching on feminism, 0.99
02:05:34 which is quite robust that most Catholics are embarrassed now,
02:05:37 embarrassed by the embarrassment of riches in our papal teachings,
02:05:41 is that, as Joel was insinuating earlier, home place work,
02:05:45 working in what's called the curtilage traditionally,
02:05:48 wife and kids helping the husband to raise money at a farm is entirely licit.
02:05:55 Licit, not illicit.
02:05:57 So she works from home, and even Nick Fuentes said,
02:06:02 right after, you know, they finished the interview, she bolted, she had to go do baby
02:06:07 care. So it's, I don't know. I'm not a micromanager. She's not my wife, but she's the
02:06:14 host. So the first part of the answer is because it's like the largest podcast platform I could
02:06:19 get it on. That's reasonably right wing. And the other one is we brought it to Tucker Carlson.
02:06:28 It was very interested for a while. We actually brought it to Daily Wire. We said, do you want
02:06:32 to run this as a sequel we're not going to change any words and they said no but we showed it at
02:06:37 daily wire brought it to the blaze um and among these normie places and tucker's not a total normie
02:06:45 they all said no um candace had the chutzpah to go for it so thank you candace i people people
02:06:53 love to pick knits but until you actually and i'm not a movie maker by training i'm a trained
02:06:59 Thomistic philosopher. I studied in Europe. So to engage in making a movie took years off of my
02:07:05 life. It's a huge undertaking. We got tons of hate for it. You know, Wall Street Journal came after
02:07:12 me and Vogue magazines come after us. So I'm just happy to have it someplace where you can go watch
02:07:19 it. That's the answer. And Candice does not work outside of her home. Yeah, her studio is in her
02:07:25 You know, you and I, we hold the same position on that.
02:07:28 We appreciate the things that Candace has said,
02:07:31 but we both say, yeah, ideally we prefer for you to just be a mom. 0.98
02:07:35 Yep, of course.
02:07:36 And so we both agree on that.
02:07:38 But I do think, you know, people view this as like some,
02:07:41 as though it's a sign of hypocrisy, like it's a gotcha, and it's not.
02:07:46 This is not, it's important for people to understand.
02:07:49 There's a difference between a double standard and two standards, right?
02:07:53 so it's not um it's not a double standard like so uh here's here's a set of two different standards
02:07:58 in in my home uh in my marriage between my wife and i um my wife and i we have a standard that
02:08:06 when we're in the bedroom alone at home we're allowed to be naked and we have a standard that
02:08:11 when the two of us are in public we're not oh hypocrite double standard yeah oh no just not 1.00
02:08:19 being retarded you are stupid individual think about this think logically and stop being stupid 1.00
02:08:26 it is not a double standard it is two separate standards for two separate contexts right and so 1.00
02:08:33 here's the deal um do you want to have boss babe you know so and so on your platform in your house
02:08:41 in your studio um and and you know pushing her forward and that kind of no i think that would
02:08:48 hypocritical holding the views that we do about biblical patriarchy however if Fox News it'll
02:08:54 never happen because it's Fox News but just hypothetically if Fox News called me up and said
02:09:00 hey you know hand me that real quick Wes you know we heard about your book the hyphenated heresy
02:09:07 Judeo-Christianity right so Fox News again it's hypothetical they're never going to happen yeah
02:09:14 But if they called me up and said, man, I heard about you and Jordan Hall's book, The Hyphenated
02:09:19 Heresy, and it's getting great reviews on Amazon. It's, you know, it's climbing the charts, and it
02:09:25 is. Praise God. We're like two weeks in, and we've sold over 2,000 copies. I think it's number one
02:09:29 on historical theology right now on Amazon for new releases. It's number two, I think, on
02:09:35 conservatism and politics. And so if I got that call from Fox, and they said, we want you to come
02:09:42 on uh one of our news shows and uh and and talk about the book and why it matters and how it's
02:09:48 important and then i find out you know with the follow-up uh that uh the new show that i'm going
02:09:53 to be going on is uh led by a female anchor news anchor uh i'm going on the show i'm going on the
02:10:00 show and that is not hypocrisy that's not a double standard that's not the same as me hitting up you
02:10:07 know meg kelly or something and say hey will you come on our show um i've got something to say 1.00
02:10:12 but i'm i'm kind of afraid to say it and i need a blonde white chick you know to to be there for 0.95
02:10:19 moral support and to say it for me that's very different than i've got something to say i can
02:10:25 only reach so many people with my platform your platform is gargantuan i disagree with the basic
02:10:31 premise but this is the way that the world is and so i'm going to go on your plot platform
02:10:35 and humbly accept your generous offer
02:10:39 and use that strategically for the glory of God
02:10:42 to get truth out to as many people as possible
02:10:45 in the same way that we are right now using YouTube,
02:10:50 even though, yeah, the people who head up YouTube,
02:10:53 we have profound disagreements with.
02:10:56 We're using whatever.
02:10:59 So that's not a double standard.
02:11:01 People got to stop doing that. 1.00
02:11:02 Stop being stupid. 1.00
02:11:03 stop uh well uh you know you you would go on so and so's platform um and she's a woman and so 1.00
02:11:09 therefore you're not really patriarchal no um i i will be naked in my bedroom at home and i'm not
02:11:17 naked in public i will um go on someone else's platform publicly even if i disagree with them
02:11:25 i will not have them on my platform two separate contexts so it's not a double standard it's two
02:11:32 standards two standards but not a double standard surely we can understand that so all right that's
02:11:38 great yeah all right last one here from glenn lawrence uh they sent ten dollars and say shout 0.66
02:11:43 out to the homie tim gordon and the whole nxr studio crew for doing the lord's work standing 0.85
02:11:49 on truth and fighting back against feminism amen thanks for the thanks glenn yeah glenn's a good 0.89
02:11:54 dude yeah he's a good dude um all right let's end it like this uh timothy tell people where they can
02:12:00 follow you. One more time, where to watch the doc, but also where they can follow you,
02:12:04 because you live stream, you do a bunch of stuff. Yeah, so I'm on YouTube three times a week,
02:12:10 and that's at Timothy Gordon. The show is called Rules for Retrogrades. It's general,
02:12:15 far right-wing stuff, right-wing stuff from a Catholic Christian perspective, but it's a lot
02:12:21 of culture and politics. So that's on YouTube. You can follow me on Twitter or X, if you will,
02:12:28 at Timotheology, T-I-M-O-T-H-E-E-O-L-O-G-Y.
02:12:34 And the documentary is on CandiceOwens.com,
02:12:37 and it's going to be free for two days or maybe only 36 hours.
02:12:41 If you need that $1.99 that much, if it's blood money or rent money,
02:12:45 on February the 4th and 5th, I believe, are those dates.
02:12:49 They're going to be absolutely free.
02:12:51 I hope Candice will talk about the free days coming up here.
02:12:54 Yeah, I hope so.
02:12:54 Yeah, I hope she promotes that.
02:12:56 All right, well, thank you so much.
02:12:57 I'm honored to be hanging out
02:12:59 with three legit patriarchs
02:13:01 there aren't that many and there need to be
02:13:03 it needs to be completely ubiquitous
02:13:05 and that's what we're all trying to do
02:13:07 ubiquitize Christianity
02:13:09 and patriarchy 0.97
02:13:10 thanks for tuning in and Lord willing
02:13:13 we will see you guys for sure on Wednesday
02:13:15 that will be I believe
02:13:17 episode 4 of the Nick series now
02:13:19 so if you're keeping up with that
02:13:21 that'll be episode 4 of the series
02:13:23 with Nick Fuentes I believe
02:13:25 that particular episode is on calling out conservative grifters and so we uh we get into
02:13:31 some of the guys who are you know conservative but at the end of the day are still ultimately
02:13:36 subjected to liberalism and the heart of liberalism we would argue is egalitarianism
02:13:41 egalitarianism needs to be rooted up all the way down um johnny and and jimmy are not the same at
02:13:47 the individual level not all people are the same uh johnny and jackie are not the same you know
02:13:51 sexual egalitarianism, and even racial egalitarianism. We also believe that God created
02:13:57 races, and there are distinctions, and there should be benevolence and love. But again,
02:14:02 egalitarianism at every level, whether it be sex, whether it be gender, whether it be at the
02:14:07 individual level, whether it be race, is a lie. And many, many, many conservatives today,
02:14:15 conservative pundits, may sound conservative in some aspects, but at the end of the day,
02:14:19 they are liberals and if we're going to win liberalism seems as though it's the final boss
02:14:25 and so uh nick and i myself are addressing that in uh the episode for wednesday that'll be 12 p.m
02:14:31 uh eastern time and we may or may not we'll decide but uh we may actually do um a a bonus
02:14:38 live stream tomorrow at 12 p.m uh eastern time to uh to talk about and i'll just i'll just frame
02:14:44 like this uh it would be uh homosexuality polygamy and interracial marriage would be the topic and
02:14:51 breaking those down they're distinct they're different um but breaking those down and uh and
02:14:55 really kind of building an argument against biblicism we're bible guys we love the scripture
02:15:01 but against biblicism and really trying to carve out uh theologically this category of um i think
02:15:08 you know the apostle paul in first corinthians all things are permissible but not all things
02:15:12 are beneficial and so um it is it is not just that uh you know permissibility you could say it
02:15:18 is as concisely as this permissibility does not eradicate prudence permissibility does not
02:15:24 eradicate prudence and um and so we're going to do an episode um uh maybe tomorrow on that topic
02:15:31 if not then we'll have to bump it to friday so thanks for tuning in make sure to subscribe to
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02:15:40 everything that we do on X and we will see you Lord willing either Tuesday or Wednesday. God bless.
02:16:10 Thank you.