The NXR Podcast - NXR Livestream - Fishback BANNED？ Jeremy Carl TANKED; SAVE Act To Pass？

00:00:00.000 We have a jam-packed show for you today. This is NXR Studios. I'm Pastor Joel Webin, and I am joined by my co-host, Wesley Todd and Antonio Griffith.

00:00:10.840 We're going to be discussing three major headline stories today.

00:00:14.620 Number one has to do with Jeremy Carl, who is the Trump appointee for Assistant Secretary of State,

00:00:21.900 who right now has just gone through his hearing and very likely will not be passed for this

00:00:29.340 appointment, not because of the Democrats, it's always the Democrats, but when you have

00:00:34.880 Republican allies like this, who needs Democrats, right? With conservatives like these, who needs

00:00:40.880 liberals? Ultimately, he will likely fail, and it will be because of a GOP senator, state senator

00:00:49.860 in Utah, saying that he's offended by Jeremy Carl's comments about things that have been

00:00:59.160 labeled as anti-Semitic, things regarding the Holocaust, things regarding Jews. And the irony

00:01:06.300 in all of this is that Jeremy Carl is actually ethnically Jewish. He is a Christian in terms of 0.65

00:01:11.680 his religious affiliation. I believe he's Presbyterian, but this is somebody who is

00:01:17.000 ethnically Jewish, who is going to be ultimately probably fail in being appointed to this position

00:01:23.200 because of a GOP state senator in Utah saying that he's too anti-Semitic. That's where we

00:01:29.500 currently are in the discourse. It is absolutely absurd. The second story that we're going to be

00:01:36.840 covering today has to do with James Fishback, who is a candidate for Florida governor, replacing

00:01:42.880 Ron DeSantis. He's going up against Byron Donald's, and Byron is the official Trump

00:01:50.400 appointment. He has the MAGA endorsement, but James Fishback has been running an incredible

00:01:55.920 organic grassroots campaign, and he has been just continuing to increase in the polls day after day

00:02:04.800 after day. But he made one comment just in the last 24 to maybe 36 hours where he was asked

00:02:13.800 whether or not if he's appointed, if he wins this election as Florida's governor, would he make a

00:02:19.400 trip to Israel? And would he pay homage to the famous wall? Would he kiss the wall? Would he

00:02:26.280 wear the tiny hat? And he said unapologetically, no. Almost immediately after making that comment

00:02:34.420 on social media, James Fishback was banned from Twitter. Now, at first, we started getting, you

00:02:40.000 know, hearing the rumor and people reaching out to us and getting a little bit of intel behind the

00:02:45.000 scenes. And it's like, okay, maybe it's just a tech issue. You know, it's only been two hours,

00:02:48.780 but then it was five hours and then it was eight hours. And now, you know, here we are the next day

00:02:53.620 and he is still officially in Twitter jail. He is booted off of X. And it's worth mentioning,

00:03:00.800 I'm not saying that everything is a correlation, but just giving you the data points.

00:03:05.180 This is also on the heels of Elon Musk, who is majority owner of X,

00:03:10.980 coming out and officially giving his own personal endorsement to Byron Donald.

00:03:15.540 So you have Elon Musk saying, I'm going to support the Trump appointee, Byron Donald.

00:03:20.240 And then you have James Fishback saying, I'm not going to go to Israel.

00:03:24.380 I'm going to stay in Florida.

00:03:26.020 I'm going to be the governor of Florida.

00:03:28.560 I'm going to care about Floridians.

00:03:29.980 I'm not going to go to Israel, I'm not going to wear the tiny hat, not going to kiss the wall, and then immediately he's banned off of the most important social media platform right now in the realm of politics.

00:03:41.400 The last story that we're going to be covering today has to do with the SAVE Act, and we're going to break that down.

00:03:48.180 But in summary, to make it short and concise, give you the overarching 30,000-foot view,

00:03:55.060 the SAVE Act would require for people directing the future of the country,

00:04:01.260 it would simply impose the same requirements that are necessary to buy a pack of cigarettes,

00:04:08.100 that are necessary in order to buy a six-pack of beer. There are so many things in our culture

00:04:16.380 today that you have to show an ID for, or you can't do it. But right now, the standards for

00:04:23.640 voting for the future of our country, determining whether or not America is destroyed or whether or

00:04:29.860 not it survives, when it comes to that, we have less regulations for that, for voting, than we

00:04:37.500 do for buying beer. That's where we currently are. The SAVE Act is simply saying, no, you have to

00:04:42.780 have a valid ID and you have to prove that in order to vote. So we're going to be covering that.

00:04:48.620 Will the SAVE Act actually pass? There's hope, but at the same time, it does seem a bit dicey.

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00:06:43.920 radical christian nationalist pastor joel webin joel webin i'm gonna talk about joel webin

00:06:52.720 joel webin is an accident

00:07:13.920 All right, all right, all right. Let's get right into it.

00:07:17.900 We're going to play clips now from the Senate confirmation hearing for Jeremy Carr.

00:07:22.360 Listen to right now Senator Booker in his own words.

00:07:25.100 What do you mean when you say that you believe in the great replacement theory?

00:07:32.140 Senator, thank you for that question.

00:07:35.460 This refers to the intentional demographic replacement of Europeans in Europe.

00:07:42.480 It was invented by Renaud Camus, who was a French scholar.

00:07:46.980 You think there's an active effort to, quote-unquote, replace Americans right now?

00:07:54.560 Senator, I think the Democratic Party, through its immigration policies, has certainly shown signs of that.

00:08:00.540 And I don't understand that.

00:08:02.120 So you are saying that if more Americans are black or Latino Americans, that that somehow

00:08:11.680 weakens America because it puts whites in a minority. 0.99

00:08:19.780 Very hard to get someone to notice something when their entire job and their entire schtick 0.88

00:08:24.760 is based on not noticing.

00:08:26.580 He acts incredulous at this idea.

00:08:28.760 white people replaced white people a a people celebrating them becoming a minority let's listen

00:08:34.580 to the words from joe biden this is the joe biden c-span clip just about 10 years ago or so

00:08:39.740 celebrating whites becoming a minority non-stop non-stop folks like me who were caucasian of

00:08:49.780 european descent for the first time in 2017 will be in an absolute minority in the united states

00:08:56.860 of america absolute minority fewer than 50 percent of the people in america from then and on

00:09:04.140 will be white european stock that's not a bad thing that's a that's a source of our strength

00:09:11.660 and so we have been uh we haven't always gotten it right i don't want to

00:09:18.160 wow well that's not a bad thing i love that's a source of our strength i love how it's like

00:09:24.860 also like, oh, it just happened. We did nothing to actually, it's just a natural occurrence. It's

00:09:30.620 just the way of the world as if there wasn't immigration policies and a lack thereof, actually

00:09:35.560 an enforcement of immigration policy that contributed to this problem. Well, let's play

00:09:39.840 this clip from his ex. This is what was from when he was actually in office and he's stating the

00:09:44.580 small business types that they're going to prioritize. Let's roll this clip. Our focus

00:09:49.540 will be on small businesses on Main Street that aren't wealthy and well-connected, that

00:09:55.080 are facing real economic hardships through no fault of their own. Our priority will be

00:10:01.120 Black, Latino, Asian, and Native American-owned small businesses, women-owned businesses, 0.56

00:10:05.600 and finally, having equal access to resources needed to reopen and rebuild.

00:10:10.760 But we're going to make a concerted effort to help small businesses in low-income communities,

00:10:15.800 in big cities, small towns, rural communities that have faced systemic barriers to relief.

00:10:23.000 Think of the mom-and-pop owner with a couple of employees who can't pick up the phone and

00:10:29.020 call a banker who doesn't have a lawyer, an accountant, to help them through this complicated

00:10:34.720 process, to know if they're even qualified or who simply didn't know where this relief

00:10:42.840 was available in the first place.

00:10:44.760 We were going to throw this down when we were trying to bring,

00:10:46.960 when we brought Detroit back off its knees.

00:10:50.520 And as we saw in this morning's job report,

00:10:53.480 restaurants, bars, and hospitality industry

00:10:55.720 have been slammed by this virus.

00:10:59.440 We're going to direct relief to those businesses and others

00:11:01.760 that have been so badly hit, hit the hardest.

00:11:05.920 We owe them that support to help them get through

00:11:09.280 the other side of this crisis.

00:11:12.840 yeah let me just say a couple words here so number one nobody was slammed by the virus

00:11:21.720 they were slammed by the government shutting down all these businesses as well as churches

00:11:26.360 locking people in their homes forcing the vaccine or you get fired and lose your job

00:11:31.460 forcing mass social distancing it was people were slammed businesses were crushed not by the virus 1.00

00:11:38.020 but by the idiotic, stupid policies of the government in response to the virus. 1.00

00:11:43.420 But notice what Joe Biden is admitting there. 1.00

00:11:46.000 He's saying the virus didn't actually crush anybody.

00:11:48.900 We crushed them.

00:11:49.980 And what we did was we actually did with equality. 0.63

00:11:53.160 We crushed everyone. 0.51

00:11:55.000 But we're going to uncrush everyone except for white male-owned businesses. 0.83

00:12:01.440 So we use a virus as an excuse to come in and artificially manipulate and decrease and crush financially, economically, every single business in America, every small business. 0.52

00:12:17.360 The businesses that thrive, that actually grew, were businesses like Amazon because they could continue to operate throughout the virus.

00:12:24.880 they're able to ship all these things and abide by all these codes. But the small family-owned

00:12:29.940 businesses in America that did not have the resources and the deep pockets and the procedures

00:12:34.400 and all these things to be able to abide by the government's regulations during this time with

00:12:39.740 all the branch COVIDian restrictions, all those businesses were crushed. And they were crushed

00:12:46.180 in many ways equally. If it was white-owned, if it was woman-owned or male-owned or minority-owned,

00:12:51.740 but then what was selective, right? So equally crushed, not by the virus, but by the governmental 0.59

00:12:57.380 policies in lieu of the virus. But then what was not equal is the relief. The relief came and

00:13:03.700 targeted every single business you can possibly imagine unless it was owned by a white male. 0.66

00:13:10.880 That's what he's saying. So it goes back to what you were mentioning earlier, Antonio. None of this

00:13:16.200 is simply random or just the way of the world. It's not just, oh, well, America is becoming less

00:13:23.320 white, and that's just the way things go. That's not the way that things go. All of this was 0.86

00:13:28.540 designed. It's been designed through mass immigration and bringing people here. It's 1.00

00:13:34.420 been designed economically with these businesses will get to thrive. These ones will be artificially

00:13:40.180 suppressed at every way. We have a country that is replacing economically, numerically,

00:13:48.240 at every level, religiously, is replacing its native population and has been doing so for 0.99

00:13:54.940 decades. And the sheer gall and audacity of someone asking Jeremy Carl, you really think?

00:14:02.800 you know like so you believe in the the theory of the great replacement you think that right now to

00:14:10.280 ask that question on the heels of the biden administration for four years were a flood

00:14:15.000 of illegals and a flood of legals and notice how um in in that particular clip uh it was emphasized

00:14:22.460 you know uh black and latino americans and he even repeats and says americans mind you

00:14:27.840 latino latino like what what do you mean um so so he's basically what he's saying is um we brought

00:14:35.740 them all here but we call them americans now we gave them a piece of paper and so you're just

00:14:41.380 being prejudiced against them because um nationally there's no difference between them and you you're

00:14:47.200 you're both american and so you're just hating them because of their race do you see how unfair

00:14:53.140 how manipulative and deceitful, duplicitous this is. You bring a bunch of people who have nothing 0.78

00:14:59.640 to do with your heritage, nothing to do with your history, nothing to do with your God, 1.00

00:15:03.400 your religion, your people, your economy, all of your traditions, all of your rituals, all

00:15:09.580 of these things that you hold dear. They have nothing to do with any of it. They come in,

00:15:15.180 immediately get your tax dollars. They get the funding that you're paying to your government.

00:15:20.700 they're getting a free handout they're not coming for opportunity they're not coming for a job

00:15:25.320 they're not coming for hard work they're coming for free money money please they come they show up 0.60

00:15:30.720 but immediately they're called Americans and so now it's like well you hate your fellow Americans 0.72

00:15:38.520 no I what I despise is a an artificially manufactured foreign invasion to replace my 0.55

00:15:46.260 children. That's what I despise. And the fact that you just called them American, and you think that 0.94

00:15:53.080 that means they're the same as me and my kids and my forefathers, and that all that takes place

00:15:58.380 in 15 minutes simply by sliding a piece of paper across a table is so dishonest. But they do this

00:16:07.460 so that they're essentially, in their minds, they're able to rob you from saying, no, it's these 0.58

00:16:12.700 people are foreigners. And now they're able to say, no, no, they're domestic, just like you. 0.64

00:16:17.360 Nationally, they're just like you. So the only thing left then is their race. So you just don't 0.61

00:16:22.740 like brown people, or you just don't like black people, or you just don't like... No, what I don't 1.00

00:16:27.860 like is being replaced by non-Americans. They're not American. It doesn't matter how many times 0.99

00:16:34.480 you call them American. They're not American. They have been here for 15 minutes. They share 1.00

00:16:39.660 nothing of our heritage. But to see Jeremy Carl questioned, and just the audacity of like,

00:16:49.580 you actually believe this crazy conspiracy theory of the great replacement, you know,

00:16:56.300 it's never been proven. And meanwhile, you can just, like we did, you can just go back to

00:17:01.360 the prior president of the United States, Joe Biden, saying, oh, this isn't a theory at all.

00:17:06.080 this is, not only is it happening, it's already ingrained. It's mission accomplished, and it's

00:17:12.840 great. You guys have got to read on Substack, the New Christian Right, our new article on all of the

00:17:18.900 ways that individuals that come from other countries here send money back. I'm reading

00:17:22.840 some of the stats from this article. Guatemalans remit 50% of their income back to Guatemala.

00:17:29.200 So why is it we say, oh, you're not Americans? They take all of their money, and they send it 0.56

00:17:33.080 back to where they're from. That's right. 20% of Guatemala's GDP is all the Guatemalans that

00:17:40.300 we've shipped here and them sending back 50% of their income to their family members still in 0.99

00:17:45.620 Guatemala. So think about that. When you think of the welfare state, right? I used to think this. 0.52

00:17:51.440 And it's funny. I look back and all the black pilling that I had in the past was actually

00:17:57.520 just unbridled optimism. Little did I know, I was far too optimistic when I thought that everything

00:18:04.160 was going to hell in a handbasket. Turns out, I didn't know the half of it. It's so much worse,

00:18:09.240 guys. So much worse. So I thought, we have a welfare state that just gives tons of free

00:18:14.740 handouts and money to Americans. Nope, that's not even close to the truth. We are supporting

00:18:20.860 entire nations. Entire countries are propped up by our taxes. You are a tax farm, not just for

00:18:31.100 the poor in your country. You are a tax farm for pretty much the Western Hemisphere, for half of

00:18:39.440 the world. All these countries, your taxes are making up 20%, 30%, upwards of 40, even close to

00:18:46.200 50 percent of that entire nation's gdp we are floating half the world is being carried on the

00:18:54.040 back of america and then when you get you know down into the nitty-gritty it's not america on

00:18:59.640 the whole it's approximately 50 only half of america which half it's the heritage americans

00:19:06.620 it's the americans who actually have been here who have ties here roots history heritage religion

00:19:13.420 the Christians in America, evangelicals in America, that small portion of our country,

00:19:19.500 which is 50% and shrinking by the day, less than half, that portion of our country is not just

00:19:27.060 supporting the other half here in America, but is supporting the other half of the planet,

00:19:33.640 half of the planet. That's where I'm like, okay, you know what? I'd like earth. I'd like to stay

00:19:40.340 on earth i i you know but good night like yeah maybe maybe we need to go live on the moon like

00:19:46.820 i don't know if there's any other way than to take heritage americans put them in ships leave

00:19:52.440 everyone behind and go live on the moon so that you can have some peace it's like the the cons 0.69

00:19:58.080 are you always have to wear a space suit there's no oxygen you can't breathe if you go out of your

00:20:02.300 house and you're not properly suited up you die right those are some pretty big cons but sadly

00:20:07.740 the cons of staying here is um someone sticks an iv into your veins and sucks your blood until you

00:20:16.300 die right so it's like over here i live on the moon there's no plants there's no air there's no

00:20:21.440 nothing over here i live in hell with vampires the problem with that joel is the moon would

00:20:26.460 quickly become the best place to live and everyone would no it absolutely would but at least in in

00:20:32.920 that scenario i'm thinking and maybe not but i'm thinking like hopefully we could have like a good

00:20:39.120 vantage point so like every time you know you see a space shuttle coming and that space shuttle's

00:20:44.200 waving like a mexican flag you can just shoot it you know what i mean just blow it to smithereens

00:20:49.920 no uh the u.s hemorrhage is 200 billion dollars in remittances annually and a lot of these increases 0.71

00:20:55.960 this is not 20 years it's been like this five six years but think about 200 billion dollars

00:21:01.560 going out. It leaves our country. That's not money that's circulating within your local town,

00:21:05.660 within your state, going back to people producing things. It's just sent out. We all saw Puerto

00:21:11.120 Rico on the national stage with the Super Bowl. Do you know over half of the population of Puerto

00:21:15.320 Rico are on federal government paid food stamps, welfare? We support so many places, Haiti,

00:21:22.780 Puerto Rico, Nicaragua, $200 billion leaving us. I want to get to Stephen Colbert as well. Joe

00:21:29.240 Biden, President of the United States, it's kind of a powerful position. But even listen to the

00:21:33.500 non-political elites and the way they talk about replacing white people. Let's roll Stephen Colbert.

00:21:38.280 And speaking of comfort, I just want to speak for a moment to my fellow white people, if I may.

00:21:45.200 What are you afraid of? Violence? Then you would get rid of guns. Losing money to redistribution?

00:21:52.160 Then you would tax the rich who pay less than you do. Reparations? How much money have you lost

00:21:58.320 just this year to the criminal mismanagement of the COVID crisis. Loss of control. We white people

00:22:04.700 have no problem losing control when the wedding DJ plays Bruno Mars. Uptown funk gonna get you. 0.62

00:22:10.940 Don't believe me? Just watch. This movement, this moment won't end without demonstrable,

00:22:18.200 quantifiable change. New laws, new consequences for those who abuse their power. Maybe that's

00:22:24.620 why our government is afraid. They know that representative government is powerless without

00:22:29.340 the consent of the people. Once it loses that consent, it's no longer representative. It

00:22:35.160 is, to borrow the words of a sad little man pretending to be his own lawyer, not real.

00:22:42.560 And white Americans will soon be a minority. And that's great. Our only spice is potato. 0.76

00:22:49.440 Yeah. I'm sorry to ruin your guys' Friday. I should have given you the warning. I'll

00:22:54.220 take that responsibility on myself. The traitor is far worse than the invader. You have to deal 0.91

00:22:59.520 with your own first. We have this problem. This doesn't just happen naturally. This isn't something

00:23:05.580 that just takes place. It's not as though all these other countries just loaded up ships and

00:23:11.580 actually, through force, conquered America. This is traitors from within that allow this to take

00:23:19.160 place and yes i'm aware that many of those traders happen to be of jewish origin um but 0.81

00:23:26.660 stephen colbert as far as i know he's catholic born and raised catholic born and raised white

00:23:33.080 is the driven snow joe biden catholic uh not jewish uh chuck schumer

00:23:40.260 bernie sander yeah there are some there are some to be sure but it's um but you you just have to

00:23:49.260 acknowledge that you're you're talking about people who are heritage americans uh in many

00:23:55.280 cases are catholic uh religiously speaking they are european racially speaking and that's how it

00:24:03.100 took place. Nobody gets in unless your own people open the doors. And you listen to that clip from

00:24:10.600 Colbert, and it's so clear. It's absolute animus and vitriol, true sinister hatred of his own

00:24:20.040 people. George Washington's talked about the traitor is the one that you absolutely cannot

00:24:25.440 tolerate. There will always be foreign enemies. There will always be those who would seek to

00:24:30.220 conquer, seek to invade. But what a nation cannot tolerate is traitors among their midst.

00:24:38.380 The traitor has to be destroyed. They have to be extracted, dismantled, punished, penalized. 0.95

00:24:47.060 Otherwise, we will never have any semblance of normality. We will never have a healthy,

00:24:53.400 thriving country ever again unless we can uproot this traitorous contagious disease that's rotting

00:25:02.380 our nation's bones i want to get to fishback but let's play one more clip this is the senator

00:25:06.620 rosen clip and this is her beginning to grill him on jeremy carl the things he said about jews as

00:25:11.400 well as israel i want to quote some of them the jews love to see themselves as oppressed

00:25:17.740 another one jews have often loved to play the victim rather accept that they are participants 0.87

00:25:22.980 in history. There's another one. Hitler is always the convenient kind of bad example. 1.00

00:25:32.660 Hitler is always a convenient kind of bad example. Anyone who had family members who 0.80

00:25:37.060 served in World War II, I would have them. I wish they were here to argue with you on that one.

00:25:43.460 I'm very critical, another thing you said, of overall political stance and sociology of the 0.70

00:25:47.660 Jewish community, particularly in this century. It's been very destructive overall. Another quote, 1.00

00:25:52.720 you guys, referring to the Jews, are spearheading a lot of bad causes. 0.98

00:25:58.340 Another quote, we need to unashamedly criticize and critique them, 0.95

00:26:01.840 referring to the Jews when they're enemies,

00:26:04.640 without being worried about being called anti-Semites.

00:26:07.840 And finally, in discussing the Holocaust where six million Jews,

00:26:11.020 almost half the Jewish population alive at the time were slaughtered,

00:26:15.860 an event that continues to be denied to this day,

00:26:18.360 you say. The Holocaust kind of dominates just so much of modern Jewish thinking even today.

00:26:24.740 Everyone has traumas in their past. How much are we going to kind of re-litigate them? Say that to 0.55

00:26:30.480 the memories of the folks who fought in World War II, fought and died. So speaking to my colleagues,

00:26:38.640 a vote in favor of Mr. Carl is a full-throated endorsement of any and all of these statements.

00:26:44.700 I know everyone cares about the rise of anti-Semitism here and around the United States and around the world.

00:26:56.080 And if you have empathy for the Jewish community, communities experiencing hate,

00:27:01.860 simply tired of advancing nominees who I doubt will be respected on the world stage,

00:27:09.420 you must vote against Mr. Carl's nomination.

00:27:11.740 every single thing that she said is true he said this thing you can't vote for him he said this

00:27:20.480 thing and this other thing and this other thing every single one of those things are true she

00:27:24.680 didn't even try to disprove them so she didn't say you said this but they will call you all

00:27:28.060 kinds of names but they cannot call you a liar right one of the quotes from jeremy carl that

00:27:33.400 she reads is um that jeremy carl said that uh that jews on the whole speaking in generalities

00:27:40.380 not each and every single one, but Jews in America on the whole have spearheaded and endorsed

00:27:47.060 many bad policies, or they're always pushing for a lot of bad issues. That's true. I mean, 1.00

00:27:55.280 you can look at the voting records of ethnic Jews here in America, and it skews, depending on the

00:28:01.640 issue, anywhere from 70 to 90 percent Democrat every single time. Abortion? There are literally

00:28:09.100 Jews who are chanting in the streets, saying you can't be against abortion because that's a

00:28:15.540 religious issue. If you're against abortion, then you are anti-Semitic. You're against Jews because

00:28:21.960 abortion is a Jewish sacrament. And I'm not going to sit here and say, that's deceitful, they're 0.73

00:28:27.700 just trying. No, I'm going to say, when your enemy is speaking, listen. I sit myself down and I

00:28:33.700 listen when a Jewish man or woman is speaking. A Jewish woman is speaking, I will absolutely sit 1.00

00:28:38.260 down and listen. When she says and when he says abortion is a Jewish sacrament, the problem is

00:28:44.540 not that they're being deceitful. The problem is they're telling the truth. Abortion is a Jewish 1.00

00:28:50.720 sacrament. I believe that. I absolutely believe that. That's what the Talmud is all about. The 1.00

00:28:56.520 Talmud is about finding through endless litigation. It is loophole after loophole after loophole to be

00:29:04.380 able to indulge whatever vice you want while somehow technically following God's rules,

00:29:12.820 right? Judaism, Talmudic Judaism, is a religion of lawyers. That's what it is. It's a religion 0.63

00:29:20.500 of lawyers. How can we claim to be obedient to God with our fingers crossed behind our back?

00:29:29.040 That is the religion. So when a Jew says abortion or sodomy, gay rights or this or that or mass 1.00

00:29:37.500 immigration, all these things, these are not only important to Jews, but they're important from a

00:29:43.220 religious basis. These are religious sacraments, religious virtues to Jewish people. The counter

00:29:50.920 from us should not be, look, they're lying and manipulating their religion in order to get their

00:29:55.340 political... No. The response should be, they're telling the truth. These things that are sins and

00:30:03.000 heinous in the sight of God, the murder of the unborn, sodomy, mass immigration, replacing a 1.00

00:30:09.080 native population of a people who are the descendants of those who literally bled and 0.92

00:30:14.660 sweat and died in order to build a country, these things actually are religious. And therefore,

00:30:22.940 the answer is simply to say, it's a bad religion. And maybe we shouldn't have that religion tolerated 1.00

00:30:29.640 in these United States. So everything that that woman says in that video, what should be the big 1.00

00:30:36.660 takeaway from every Christian who's watching it should be, she did not say, Jeremy Carl can't be

00:30:43.060 appointed because he's duplicitous, because he's deceitful, because he's lying, because he's shrewd.

00:30:48.440 No, he can't be appointed because he said these things, and it's just mean to say these things.

00:30:54.900 Well, wait a second. Are these things true? You bet they're true. If they're true, then they should

00:31:00.420 be said. Adolf Hitler is constantly pointed to as the excuse for impunity with a whole host of 0.74

00:31:08.880 vices from Jewish people for the last 80 years. That's a true statement, right? Jeremy Karl did 1.00

00:31:14.720 not say, Adolf Hitler is a wonderful person and he did everything right. Notice that's not the 0.97

00:31:19.460 quote. She can't say that because that would be an abject lie. All she's saying in quoting Jeremy

00:31:25.160 Carl is, Jeremy Carl is not endorsing Hitler, saying anything positive about Hitler. He's simply

00:31:31.520 noting or noticing that Hitler has been used for 80 years as an excuse in order to garner a

00:31:41.300 perpetual victim status of the Jews so that any time they receive criticism for their wrongdoing, 0.52

00:31:49.540 somehow they're absolved of any guilt. 1.00

00:31:52.880 That's a true statement.

00:31:55.460 Senator Rosen doesn't understand that criticizing, shutting down any type of speech like this,

00:32:01.560 where you're even quoting Jews in their own words, how did anti-Semitism grow?

00:32:05.480 Oh, because you, from the highest levels of society, politically, culturally, economically,

00:32:10.260 shut down and stifled.

00:32:11.640 We played just a week ago a clip, 14 minutes, again and again, of the ADL,

00:32:17.040 the president, Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel, tons and tons, Shabbos Kestenbaum.

00:32:22.900 We are going to shut down these people's ability to have jobs, their ability to get married, 0.87

00:32:26.740 their ability to be accepted in polite society. And I can't believe it. Why is anti-Semitism

00:32:31.280 on the rise? Because you did it by making criticism of these people practically,

00:32:37.400 for all intents and purposes, illegal. Right. You did it in two ways, real quick.

00:32:42.620 it's by doing things that are bad and worthy of criticism, right? So one source of anti-Semitism

00:32:50.320 is Jewish behavior. It's not all Jews, but when it happens, it is Jews. So one is doing bad things 0.81

00:32:58.680 worthy of criticism. That's the left hand. And then on the right, suppressing or penalizing

00:33:06.100 or oppressing anyone who does criticize. So it's doing things worthy of criticism and then

00:33:13.180 suppressing anyone's ability to criticize. Those two things, that accounts 100%. That accounts

00:33:21.500 for any rise of anti-Semitism that there may be. And I would say that there is a rise. I don't want

00:33:27.880 to forfeit frame and even call it anti-Semitism. But there is a rise of critical analysis,

00:33:37.900 criticizing Jewish people and their behavior, historic behavior, but mostly their recent

00:33:45.140 behavior. But when you're like, well, what accounts for this? What's going on with these

00:33:49.720 sinister people that are trying? No, it's really simple. You committed genocide in Gaza and glassed

00:33:57.160 an entire geographic region, and we can see the footage. 0.63

00:34:02.040 And then you did that on the one hand,

00:34:04.680 and then when people started noticing and criticizing that,

00:34:07.940 you started calling it anti-Semitism,

00:34:10.100 immediately said, but Hitler, Hitler!

00:34:13.920 And then started trying to pass anti-Semitism laws in America

00:34:18.240 that cherishes free speech.

00:34:20.980 That's the rise of anti-Semitism.

00:34:23.420 How did it happen? What's going on?

00:34:25.940 we need to do re-education of world war ii history like people have forgotten no no no it's actually

00:34:31.460 really simple you killed millions of people including women and children then people

00:34:37.720 criticized you for it and you threatened to pass anti-free speech laws in america that's the rise

00:34:45.820 of anti-semitism really simple what happened in the last two or three years that's what happened

00:34:51.200 So you don't want this increase of anti-Semitism?

00:34:55.340 It's really easy.

00:34:56.700 One, stop trying to suppress free speech.

00:35:00.140 Two, stop being demons. 0.99

00:35:03.040 Stop killing babies and stop telling people they can't talk about it when you do kill babies. 0.99

00:35:10.140 Really easy solution. 1.00

00:35:12.000 Don't be dicks and don't tell people they can't say that if you still act that way. 0.99

00:35:18.440 Problem solved. 0.99

00:35:19.660 Everyone, give it enough time, everyone would love the Jews. 0.99

00:35:23.160 It's a really easy solution. 1.00

00:35:25.580 Stop being jerks and then stop punching everyone in the mouth 1.00

00:35:28.840 if they have the courage to say that you're a jerk when you're clearly behaving that way. 1.00

00:35:33.960 That's all you have to do, problem solved. 1.00

00:35:36.440 Will that happen? Probably not.

00:35:38.760 Well, I mean, certainly nobody's getting kicked off of social media

00:35:41.780 just hours after saying they're not going to go to Israel to kiss the wall, are they?

00:35:46.140 Florida governor candidate James Fishback,

00:35:48.140 we're coming up on about the 20-hour mark

00:35:49.900 that he's been unable to log in to his ex-account.

00:35:52.300 He has about 220,000 followers,

00:35:54.660 and he's running one of the most exciting campaigns

00:35:56.740 in politics that we've seen in a number of years.

00:35:59.820 Fishback, in many ways, you could compare him

00:36:01.620 to Zoran Mamdani, who won, ran for,

00:36:05.080 and ran mayorship of New York City.

00:36:07.580 And one of the ways Mamdani did it, 1.00

00:36:09.100 you're going to be an idiot if you don't look 1.00

00:36:11.400 and see what he did and why he appealed to people. 1.00

00:36:13.880 He went to the bodega owner, and he said,

00:36:15.820 why is it that this rap costs this much?

00:36:19.360 They said, well, I have to pay this tax.

00:36:20.540 I have to get this permit.

00:36:21.520 He says, great, as mayor, I'm going to get rid of all of that. 1.00

00:36:24.140 He went to the working class. 0.99

00:36:25.660 He crossed over the lines, and he said, I'm going to appeal to the working person.

00:36:30.280 Now, Zoran was never censored.

00:36:32.100 Zoran was never canceled.

00:36:33.280 When he couldn't even bench 135, that was the moment he should have been.

00:36:36.520 We're talking about real reasons.

00:36:37.980 You should be kicked off of social media.

00:36:39.800 You try to bench 135, you can't even do it.

00:36:42.280 That's an actual good reason.

00:36:43.180 He never faced censorship is the point.

00:36:44.880 Now, here we have a right wing populist. He is very much so right wing. We've had him on the show. It was a great interview. Very much so right wing on issues of culture, issues of church, issues of religion. However, in many ways, he's transcending some of the typical barriers, some of the typical boundaries that you see in politics, reaching across and saying, hey, I'm actually somewhat anti-corporate. I don't think that AI data centers should be plopped right in the middle of your community to take electricity, to take water with no guarantee to the citizens that are there.

00:37:13.120 I don't think that these huge corporations should be allowed to buy single-family homes and rent them out in perpetuity.

00:37:19.600 I don't think immigrants should come in from China, take positions of Florida natives in these universities.

00:37:25.500 And so he's kind of transcending these barriers and running a very exciting campaign, surging in the polls. 0.91

00:37:30.080 He was 2% beginning of January, went on a generational run, now polling around 23% to the establishment favorite, Byron Donalds, right about 37%.

00:37:39.640 So he is serious.

00:37:41.540 He has a great chance at winning.

00:37:43.120 and the establishment is quivering in its boots.

00:37:45.920 And one of the issues that he has made a center point is he said,

00:37:48.780 I don't know why Florida, a state in the United States,

00:37:51.480 is buying bonds as investments in Israel.

00:37:54.260 I'm going to divest those bonds.

00:37:55.480 I'm going to bring those investments back here. 1.00

00:37:57.940 Another thing he said is I'm not going to go to Israel and kiss that stupid wall. 1.00

00:38:02.340 And is it a coincidence? 1.00

00:38:04.560 Hours, just a couple days after he says that?

00:38:06.700 Right after that.

00:38:07.560 He can't log into his account.

00:38:08.920 Now, the account is still up.

00:38:10.200 It's strange, and there's a couple other events that go with it.

00:38:12.920 Someone tried to set his home on fire over the weekend.

00:38:16.080 So he held a rally at his home.

00:38:18.040 Here's where I'm at.

00:38:18.940 Came out on the porch with an AR-15, held it up, and said,

00:38:21.340 if you threaten me or any of my staff, this is what's going to happen to you.

00:38:24.560 First of all, based.

00:38:26.020 That could be another reason why.

00:38:27.260 And as you alluded to, he also, Elon Musk, endorsed back in November his current opponent,

00:38:33.860 again, Byron Donalds.

00:38:35.840 Are we seeing censorship as someone tries to make a grassroots movement?

00:38:39.980 Hey, here's issues that both sides care about.

00:38:42.100 I'm going to be the candidate that runs for the average Floridian.

00:38:45.680 Literally kicked off of social media.

00:38:47.280 Nope, that threatens the establishment.

00:38:48.580 That threatens the status quo.

00:38:49.760 You are not allowed to do that.

00:38:51.480 Without any other evidence to the contrary, I think so.

00:38:54.100 This is not just an hour.

00:38:55.340 This is not just X is down.

00:38:57.100 I'm trying to get back into my account.

00:38:58.620 Hey, here's a candidate with a quarter of a million followers that's surging in the polls.

00:39:02.500 Shut it down.

00:39:03.660 Right.

00:39:03.820 At the time that we're broadcasting, it's been almost 24 hours now.

00:39:07.080 And that may not seem like a really big deal.

00:39:08.900 but that is a huge deal when you're talking about somebody who is running for governor of the third

00:39:14.820 largest, numerically largest state in the union. This is a tight race. He's already massively

00:39:21.900 disadvantaged, right? Elon Musk has given his endorsement to Byron Donald's from the very start.

00:39:28.320 Byron has 45 million in campaign funds. Exactly. So when you think of the war chest,

00:39:33.060 so you have Elon Musk's endorsement. You also have the MAGA endorsement, Trump's endorsement.

00:39:37.020 And that's what he had from the very start.

00:39:38.500 Elon came a little bit later and is a more recent development.

00:39:41.340 But you have the richest man in the world and the current sitting president endorsing Byron Donalds.

00:39:46.220 And he also has a war chest of $45 million.

00:39:50.420 And part of that, I think, is also from Miriam Adelson.

00:39:54.420 I believe that she has recently given to his campaign.

00:39:57.560 Very curious.

00:39:58.860 It's not curious at all.

00:39:59.880 It makes perfect sense. 1.00

00:40:00.660 The Adelsons are a Jewish family that are seeking to set up a casino in Irving, right in between Dallas and Fort Worth in Texas, which would absolutely be detrimental to the state of Texas. 0.99

00:40:16.020 They also gave $100 million to Donald Trump with his campaign for this second term back 0.81

00:40:21.500 in 2024.

00:40:23.360 And Marian Adelson, she said publicly, said outright that because of James Fishback and

00:40:28.920 some of his positions, especially regarding Israel and wanting to hate Israel, no, wanting

00:40:34.700 to prioritize Floridians, saying, no, I'm not going to, if I'm the governor of Florida,

00:40:39.600 I'm going to spend my time in Florida.

00:40:42.000 I'm going to be concerned about these people and these issues.

00:40:44.800 I'm not going to be hopping on a plane, going to Israel on sponsored trips, and I'm also not going

00:40:50.820 to use Florida capital, money, and taxes in order to buy worthless bonds for Israel. No, I'm not

00:40:59.620 going to do that. I'm going to prioritize my people. And as soon as he started saying those

00:41:03.720 types of things, and Miriam Adelson, she actually publicly posted that she was going to go and begin

00:41:09.500 funding and contributing, donating to Byron Donald. So you have the Trump endorsement,

00:41:16.360 MAGA, which we all know, sadly, I'm not excited about this, but at this point is

00:41:20.360 much more MIGA, you know, make Israel great again than it is MAGA. So the Trump endorsement,

00:41:27.260 then a recent development is the Elon Musk endorsement, and he is the majority shareholder

00:41:32.220 of X, and James Fishback conveniently just kicked off of X, and then Miriam Adelson,

00:41:38.860 Massive, massive wealthy individual, the Adelson family, billionaires,

00:41:44.300 saying we're going to give even more to Byron Donald.

00:41:46.700 So Donald's is already at like 37%.

00:41:49.420 Fishback is 23%.

00:41:50.980 But here's the thing.

00:41:52.260 He started at 2%.

00:41:53.480 Nobody thought it was serious.

00:41:54.840 Nobody thought there was a chance, a snowflake's chance in hell

00:41:58.160 that James Fishback could actually contend in this race.

00:42:01.580 But he's climbed the charts from 2% to approximately 23%,

00:42:05.460 depending which poll that you're looking at.

00:42:07.140 Byron Donalds is at 37%.

00:42:10.880 He's got 45 million Donalds in his war chest. 0.67

00:42:16.100 And I believe that Fishback, I'm sure some people have come in now

00:42:19.860 and are starting to donate and help the campaign.

00:42:22.600 But even as recent as just a few weeks ago,

00:42:26.260 the update of his funding was $900, $900,000?

00:42:31.360 I think that was through December.

00:42:32.580 900.

00:42:33.160 About $200,000 now.

00:42:34.640 Now he's got some support.

00:42:36.240 but still imagine that nine hundred dollars to 45 million or let's go with what he has now

00:42:40.920 two hundred thousand dollars to 45 million um was david and goliath a bigger mismatch or not

00:42:46.940 right but but that's the thing god can do those things god actually um god delights in taking

00:42:54.000 the the underdog and overthrowing the the giant tyrant and just for you guys who maybe aren't

00:43:02.100 up to speed on Florida politics, and that's totally fine. We all have lives to live, and we

00:43:07.620 can't be up to speed on everything. But the reason why Byron Donald is not a good choice is because

00:43:13.500 he's not Florida first. He's not America first. He is a bought-and-paid-for, Israel-first candidate.

00:43:20.760 He is a major Zionist. He was extolling H-1B visas just a couple years ago. We need more of them.

00:43:25.640 Exactly. So major Zionist, but then also on the ground, he wants all the data centers, 0.96

00:43:30.740 the tech

00:43:33.280 billionaires to be able to

00:43:35.400 set up their kingdom in Florida

00:43:37.100 and then flood it with cheap labor 0.71

00:43:39.540 and H-1B visas.

00:43:41.680 James Fishback wants to make Florida

00:43:43.400 great again. Byron Donalds wants to

00:43:45.380 make Florida Indian again.

00:43:47.440 And there is a massive difference between 0.98

00:43:49.160 the two. It's like, wait, but Florida's

00:43:51.480 never been majority Indian. No, no, no, no.

00:43:53.240 Go all the way back. Indians? 1.00

00:43:56.020 The white man? 0.88

00:43:57.840 And it's like, we got to run it back. 0.89

00:43:59.300 but we get to fight our ancestors fought indians we also get to fight indians like born too late 0.97

00:44:04.720 to fight indians born just in time to fight indians yeah it's also not lost on me you talk

00:44:09.280 about censorship uh in comparison comparison of like zoran mamdani west which you made

00:44:14.440 and to to fish back and to your point running the same campaign and if you remember during the i

00:44:20.180 think it was the mayoral debate uh they go the question is asked of what what will be your first

00:44:24.780 international trip, and Zoran Mamdani says, I'm here for New York. I'm not going to go to Israel.

00:44:30.380 There was no censorship there. And we converse that to James Fishback, and we can see the

00:44:36.680 censorship that I think it's reasonable to suggest that's connected to that comment,

00:44:41.000 the very same comment. But here's the deal, though. Fishback, he's running a campaign,

00:44:46.820 and it really is just a state of the art in the sense of, actually, the campaign I'm running,

00:44:53.020 I don't need a lot of money. I'm running a social media campaign, a TikTok campaign,

00:44:57.060 an Instagram campaign. And he's really carving himself out just with his, the way that he's

00:45:03.080 connecting with voters, the way that he's doing it through social media and understanding memeing

00:45:07.520 and understanding short form content and all of these things. It's clearly the weapon that

00:45:12.120 equalizes. You can have $45 million and run traditional 60 second ad campaigns on TV or

00:45:18.240 whatever the case is. But it really can't compare, especially if you look at how Fishback's

00:45:22.920 polling with younger generations. It's incredible. It's like 50% of Gen Z or age 18 to 25 support

00:45:30.500 them. He's capturing the youth.

00:45:31.560 Exactly. And so really what we're seeing is, okay, 900,000 to 45 million, but a massive

00:45:37.660 social media, what would you say, IQ, intelligence, application, execution, presence. And the

00:45:46.360 censorship is what what really uh makes it an unequal race as far as i'm concerned um because

00:45:51.940 i despite the establishment backing byron donald's i think fishback would still win and has a great

00:45:58.320 chance of winning because of what he's doing on social media so uh if they take that away from

00:46:02.220 him i mean it there it's truly just uh knocking him out there's knocking him out of the race so

00:46:07.600 well said very well said uh real quick quick interjection i'll keep it brief but uh it's

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00:49:51.540 Where James Fishback fits into the larger point, there's been a number of political movements on

00:49:56.120 the right here in America in the last 25 years or so. You had the Tea Party movement, you had

00:49:59.640 the alt-right, but what you have to do for a movement to be sustained, for it to matter,

00:50:03.900 is you have to win, and to be honest, you have to win early. I don't know how many of you have

00:50:08.060 seen the meme where there's a ruler with a whip, and he's keeping the crowd bowing down. He cracks

00:50:13.320 that whip. The first one stands up, and that's the point it all hinges on. Can that first one who

00:50:18.940 stands up and says, hey, the emperor has no clothes, can he remain standing? Can he stand up

00:50:24.180 with courage? Because once he stands up, two or three more stand up, and then once two or three

00:50:28.380 more stands up, it's impossible to crush it, and in many ways, we're in that moment. America First

00:50:33.100 as a political ideology, a political doctrine, still is being developed, still is being understood.

00:50:38.120 We don't have a governor.

00:50:39.120 We don't have a senator that has explicitly billed themselves as, I'm for the American

00:50:44.020 people.

00:50:44.700 But it's possible, the election is in August, it's possible that within months you could

00:50:49.040 have someone.

00:50:49.740 He's willing to appear on our show.

00:50:51.760 He's willing to reach out to young white men that have been disenfranchised. 0.78

00:50:55.740 I mean, he's explicitly pro-white. 0.72

00:50:57.680 Think about this. 0.73

00:50:58.180 A GOP senator from Utah is killing the nomination of the man who wrote The Unprotected Class about anti-white racism.

00:51:07.300 That is the GOP right now. 0.96

00:51:09.200 We will kill the nomination of a man who speaks out for white people. 0.99

00:51:12.460 Talking about Jeremy Carl. 0.99

00:51:13.640 Jeremy Carl's book, The Unprotected Class.

00:51:15.420 Right there. 0.74

00:51:16.100 James Fishback, if he gets into office, would be the first of just about anyone I know in a major political seat that says, hey, I'm explicitly pro-white.

00:51:24.500 White people are being replaced.

00:51:26.000 White people are being discriminated against. 0.90

00:51:27.940 white people, and especially white men, are being disadvantaged. And if one man and one governor

00:51:32.580 stands up and says that, there will be another in 2028 and five in 2030. And you lose your control

00:51:39.980 over an entire populace when that one man succeeds. James Fishback is working his ass off, too. He is

00:51:46.460 out there meeting people. He's not just on social media. He is on the ground. And if this model

00:51:50.840 succeeds, it literally spells death to billions of dollars that go to India or go to Israel if

00:51:57.480 this movement succeeds he it spells the end of all this immigration that comes in through our

00:52:01.320 universities that get student visas because he says no these slots are for florida students

00:52:06.220 he represents the death blow and and i would go even further the death blow to to corporate

00:52:11.840 interests in politics i mean how much do we talk about uh politics essentially just being who can

00:52:17.100 who can raise the most money what corporate interests are at work what foreign international

00:52:21.200 interests are at play giving money to campaigns so that they can get ad placements everywhere

00:52:25.280 So they can just become a ubiquitous household name.

00:52:28.320 And really what his campaign, in my view, would represent is a death knell to that concept.

00:52:33.980 It's no longer a $100 million burden to run for office and make a compelling case to citizens, in particular young citizens, to say, I have your interests in mind at heart.

00:52:46.800 My policies are targeted toward you, bringing prosperity back to you, bringing jobs, wage growth, all of these things back to you.

00:52:53.540 And you don't have to give me money.

00:52:55.500 All you have to do is give me attention.

00:52:57.680 He ripped up a $100,000 check because he wouldn't support Israel.

00:53:00.880 Someone said, look, I'm going to give you money, $100,000 to a campaign that is self-funded.

00:53:05.460 He said, nope, I don't want that.

00:53:07.300 I'm staying pure.

00:53:08.420 And so that's why censorship, I don't think X is going to be the only example.

00:53:12.120 Say he gets his account back tomorrow.

00:53:13.560 That will not be the first attempt to say, this guy cannot be allowed to run.

00:53:16.960 He cannot be allowed to meet voters.

00:53:18.380 He cannot be allowed to reach people because if he does, his message will resonate.

00:53:22.500 right and then there'll be thousands more what you said is insightful west that just um

00:53:27.680 if he wins he would be the first and the reality is when it comes to change all it takes is one

00:53:34.480 the moment that you get one and this works in both directions right but the moment that you

00:53:39.820 get one guy who stands up for something that's true and good and beautiful and that message

00:53:46.800 actually wins, then it signals to everyone else that this is a winning message, that this is a

00:53:53.580 viable platform, and there will be countless others. And if he doesn't win, that's why it's

00:54:01.080 kind of this full court press against him right now from all those who are both Democrats on the

00:54:07.440 one hand, but also those who are conservatives, but who are not actually America first. All of

00:54:12.500 them are linking arms and joining forces against Fishback because they know that if he wins,

00:54:18.660 it's not just one governor in Florida. It's not just one race. It's not just one man.

00:54:22.820 That will set the tone and signal to everyone else an entire new generation of America first

00:54:30.340 politicians and their power will crumble. So it is imperative that he wins. He may not,

00:54:37.080 But it is imperative that everyone do everything they can to try to ensure, if at all possible, that he wins.

00:54:46.080 Like, that might be, you know, some of you, your question, like, aren't you guys based in Texas?

00:54:50.760 Yes.

00:54:51.780 Yes, we're based in Texas.

00:54:54.660 Yeah, we're in Texas.

00:54:56.280 But we know that Texas will have more of a hope for a future if Fishback wins in Florida.

00:55:03.400 We know that.

00:55:04.220 It matters.

00:55:04.900 Yeah. And like you said, it's about creating a playbook, if you will, that can be run again and again in states across the United States. Candidates looking at Fishback and seeing his strategy and saying, hey, this can work. And building grassroots campaigns that are predicated on, I think, especially reaching young voters.

00:55:23.100 it's going to be so important, especially as demographic shifts continue to happen over the

00:55:28.640 next five to 10 years. One other thing that I think is connected, we'll zoom out here,

00:55:33.360 we'll change topics, if you will, to the SAVE Act. So on Wednesday, the House passed, I think

00:55:40.240 the votes were 218, largely along party lines, 218 votes from the Republicans against 213 votes

00:55:48.840 from Democrats to pass what's called the SAVE Act. And so the SAVE Act is essentially, I think

00:55:54.360 it stands for Safeguarding American Voter Eligibility Act. It essentially amends the

00:55:59.860 National Voter Registration Act of 1993 by creating this category, if you will, of what's

00:56:05.720 called proof of citizenship. So anyone who's voted, they all know that when you go to vote,

00:56:09.680 you have to present, and in most states, actually, this isn't true in all states, but you have to

00:56:13.660 present a proof of identity. And so this would essentially just be when I register, I have to

00:56:19.720 give my photo ID, my real ID, my driver's license to demonstrate that I am who is registering to

00:56:25.280 vote. The SAVE Act would essentially introduce another obligation, if you will, for the voter

00:56:30.880 to have to also present a proof of citizenship. And so this would look like something like a

00:56:35.740 birth certificate or a passport. And so Republicans, I mean, coming out of the 2020 election

00:56:41.480 in particular, Republicans have been really focused on voter integrity. It's no surprise,

00:56:46.340 10 million at minimum illegal immigrants, likely probably something closer to north of 20 million

00:56:52.600 illegal immigrants have come to the United States. And everyone should be concerned about

00:56:57.300 when people go to the polls, is this a person who should be voting? Are they a U.S. citizen?

00:57:02.540 Are they who they say they are? And this act is essentially just targeted to be able to provide

00:57:06.960 protections from national level down to the state level to say, we need to make sure that 0.99

00:57:12.120 illegal immigrants aren't voting in elections. And it's worth mentioning, this is vastly popular 1.00

00:57:16.640 among all Americans. 83% according to Pew Research, requiring all voters to show government-issued

00:57:22.460 photo identification. 83% of US adults. I think it's also like 76% of black adults. It's 73% of

00:57:29.840 Democrats support this kind of legislation. And yet we see- Well, thankfully our representatives

00:57:34.660 represent us and our interest right oh yeah hang on so so and we're getting all of the same

00:57:41.160 arguments that we've heard we've had this conversation around voter eligibility it's

00:57:44.720 been happening for the last at least the last five years but but even before then um through

00:57:49.200 the 90s and through the 2000s and and the democratic arguments always the same thing oh

00:57:53.400 you're this is a poll tax you're putting an unnecessary burden on the voter to uh to be

00:57:59.260 able to vote and and they'll cite things like 50 of u.s citizens don't have a passport 11

00:58:04.640 percent of people don't have access to a birth certificate and uh you're put all of these

00:58:08.860 unnecessary burdens are just going to disproportionately hurt poor people who we

00:58:12.620 know as democrats vote for us and so let me read between the lines here um oh black people are too 1.00

00:58:18.360 dumb to get ids that's what no that literally like that's the message you can't vote for this 1.00

00:58:22.260 because we know they're too dumb to get ids and vote for us here's the reality if somebody is too 1.00

00:58:27.360 dumb whether they be you know black red and yellow black and white they're uh all retarded 1.00

00:58:33.360 in his sight like uh regardless of the color regardless of the race um if there's a white 1.00

00:58:38.720 person who doesn't know how to get an id then they shouldn't be able to vote they shouldn't be able

00:58:44.500 to vote it's a self-contained you know iq test and i'm not of the position that you know only

00:58:49.460 somebody who's a genius should be able to vote uh there are plenty of people who are really smart 0.97

00:58:53.340 but um they're so smart that they're dumb you know they have terrible policies and want the 0.98

00:58:58.260 world just to burn you know there are plenty of smart marxists plenty of smart communists 0.99

00:59:02.880 um so uh but you know but to say okay there is at least some kind of prerequisite that has to be met 0.85

00:59:10.500 in order to simply validate whether or not you are in fact an american citizen it's perfectly

00:59:17.140 reasonable and if anyone can't do it um it's like well this person you know is just not capable of

00:59:22.680 doing it if they're not capable of doing it then they shouldn't they're not suitable they're not

00:59:26.900 fit to uh to have a say in the future of the country they're just not and they don't actually

00:59:32.600 believe that. It's just political fodder. They don't think people are too stupid to be able to

00:59:36.400 figure out how to get a birth certificate and send in a form. And there's all of these third 1.00

00:59:40.340 party sites that you can go into and order a birth certificate to your door within three to

00:59:44.940 four weeks. So they don't actually believe that. Of course, it's just another way to bludgeon.

00:59:50.080 And this is, even if I zoom out, this is just what Democrats do. This is what the left does.

00:59:55.960 And they're so disingenuous and they're gaslighters in the way of creating a problem. And you see this

01:00:00.620 time and time again create a problem and then when the right is forced to solve the problem

01:00:06.060 complain about how they're solving it and so you you just let open the open the gates let

01:00:12.660 millions and millions of people in your country and the right comes and says yeah that actually

01:00:17.200 sucks and now we do have to have additional burdens on voting so we can make sure that

01:00:21.960 you're not falsely or um in a inappropriately influencing elections and uh and then they'll 0.87

01:00:29.260 say things like you're being why why wouldn't you just do it on the back end so this is an argument

01:00:33.260 that's been had well you have front-end verification you have back-end verification and so what this

01:00:39.400 what this specific act does is it puts it on the front end in other words it puts the the burden

01:00:44.220 on the voter to actually go and say i am who i say am the democrats are actually coming in and saying

01:00:49.300 you should just do it on the back end let the government let the local state officials verify

01:00:53.780 people through by marrying all of these government databases and figuring out whether or not people

01:00:58.780 or live at the address, as they say.

01:01:00.820 Actually, that it is a real birth certificate.

01:01:03.420 And so, again, the Democrats know

01:01:06.040 that this is a losing issue.

01:01:07.240 You can look at the polls

01:01:08.160 and see everyone largely supports this.

01:01:10.680 And everyone, for the most part,

01:01:12.140 is willing to stomach,

01:01:13.360 for the sake of election integrity,

01:01:15.580 they're willing to stomach to say,

01:01:17.160 yeah, it's going to be a little bit more painful

01:01:18.740 for me to register to vote in my county

01:01:20.720 if I've moved, if I'm going to have to, like,

01:01:22.900 go through an additional step.

01:01:24.000 If I'm married, for example,

01:01:25.060 this is one that's come up.

01:01:26.520 When you present your proof of citizenship, which is going to be, for most people, their birth certificate,

01:01:31.600 women who have been married and changed their last names will have to present, oh, no, a third document, which is just your marriage certificate.

01:01:39.460 Oh, no.

01:01:40.120 Oh, that's just so terrible. 0.94

01:01:41.820 And so they're trying to make this point of, oh, but that's going to cause so many women, 20%, 25 millions of women to not vote.

01:01:48.540 I saw a representative say 39 million women will not be able to vote.

01:01:52.440 When I was like, I didn't know the SAVE Act was this awesome.

01:01:54.680 You're telling me 40 million women are being disenfranchised? 0.98

01:01:57.680 I prefer it to be single women, married women. 0.99

01:02:00.740 Like, ah, I'm there for it. 0.99

01:02:01.940 I'm here for it.

01:02:02.840 Yeah, and so that's what it is.

01:02:05.640 The reality is that we just have to confront what we're facing as a country.

01:02:11.120 As a demographic shift, we're going to have to do things that are harder.

01:02:15.140 Trump did this, interestingly.

01:02:16.460 You remember when he did this with the tariffs?

01:02:18.500 He says, oh, yes, the tariffs actually will hurt you in the short term.

01:02:21.920 But Americans, you have to be able to stomach it.

01:02:24.680 It's going to take short-term suffering to emerge out of this system, this globalist scheme.

01:02:29.740 And that was true.

01:02:30.280 And that was true.

01:02:31.260 And it's true here as well.

01:02:33.020 Yes, there are people, including myself, who are already like, yeah, it's going to take a little bit more time.

01:02:40.600 It's true with tariffs.

01:02:41.760 It's true with mass deportations.

01:02:43.620 It's true with voter restrictions.

01:02:45.200 At every level, we've created a problem.

01:02:49.040 And when I say we, I mean Democrats have created a problem.

01:02:52.120 and the right has to have the stomach to fix it.

01:02:55.140 Yeah, and just not care about either one,

01:02:58.220 the individual burden that it places on you as a voter,

01:03:00.640 and two, the emotional arguments,

01:03:03.140 the gaslighting emotive arguments

01:03:05.740 that the left makes about,

01:03:07.340 oh, just the disenfranchised people.

01:03:09.160 Like, we're sick of hearing these arguments.

01:03:11.300 We want our country back.

01:03:12.760 And I will take one day out of my week

01:03:15.440 to go to an election office to say,

01:03:17.980 look, I have my certificate

01:03:19.620 and I'm willing to present it

01:03:21.500 and I want everyone else to present it as well.

01:03:23.900 That's what it's going to come down to.

01:03:26.040 And now here's the thing,

01:03:27.540 if we just move on from what the act is itself

01:03:29.860 and what it's trying to do,

01:03:30.640 which is very common sense.

01:03:32.400 You look at research polls,

01:03:33.700 if you look at how Republicans feel about the topic.

01:03:36.800 But the next part is, can this actually pass?

01:03:39.800 So it's passed in the House.

01:03:41.860 As people know, it now will go to the Senate

01:03:44.200 and it has to pass in the Senate

01:03:45.460 before President Trump can sign the bill

01:03:47.040 and put it into law ahead of the 2026 midterms.

01:03:50.340 But here's the political reality. You've got 49 co-sponsors of Republicans who are supporting it in the Senate, and you need a threshold, as it turns out due to the filibuster, of 60 votes just to be able to pass the bill.

01:04:03.400 And so what that means, practically speaking, is you're going to have to have, I think it would be seven Democrats move on the issue, be willing to support the SAVE Act for it to pass and become law.

01:04:15.160 And that's going to take constituents in those districts speaking up and calling their senator and saying, hey, I'm a Democrat, you're a Democrat, but we need this bill.

01:04:25.700 And that's where it's going to—

01:04:27.100 And there has been talk of not nuking the filibuster entirely.

01:04:30.700 Remember, Biden tried to do this, and there were two holdouts from West Virginia and Arizona.

01:04:35.440 They refused to nuke the filibuster.

01:04:36.900 There has been talk among the Republicans to not in the full nuke the filibuster, but for the purposes of this.

01:04:43.060 There's at least been conversations with the Senate majority leader.

01:04:45.840 Would we be willing to relax the filibuster for this so we can get it passed?

01:04:49.660 And it's actually, we were arguing about it before the show.

01:04:52.600 What's different about this?

01:04:53.660 Because there's always talk, nuke the filibuster, the filibuster, the filibuster.

01:04:56.780 Well, here's the difference.

01:04:57.280 the House has passed it, and there are right now 49 GOP senators co-sponsoring the bill.

01:05:01.900 We have a 53-47 majority and J.D. Vance, who is the tie-breaking vote. So this is a real bill with

01:05:07.240 a real possibility of passing, and there's been signaled interest in, and Trump wants it done,

01:05:11.840 would we relax the filibuster for this one as well? And I think that would change elections

01:05:15.920 so much for the future, even the midterms. Republicans are facing, you look at all the

01:05:20.180 odds, they're facing wipeout. They're facing being wiped out in the midterms, Democrats getting

01:05:24.400 control of the house taking back several senate seats what do you have to lose what we might lose

01:05:29.340 in the elections that's going to happen anyway that's that's what we're facing and so this some

01:05:33.900 this is something that has to be passed and republicans especially they have to grow a spine

01:05:37.880 and say well but the democrats could do it to us when they're in power yeah they already tried to

01:05:41.480 do it they're going to do it regardless you do it to fight for yourself to advocate for your own

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01:07:38.200 okay we are landing the plane now we've got a couple super chats that we want to honor this

01:07:46.000 is from jnrd or jnr doyle 86 he gave us a super chat on rumble we appreciate that he said joel

01:07:55.300 you mentioned recently that the weakness to protestantism is that there's no central authority

01:08:00.580 with final say i agree are there any efforts being made to remedy this could we start one

01:08:07.360 Well, that's the thing about being Protestant.

01:08:09.220 You can always start something.

01:08:12.220 Many Protestants have started things.

01:08:13.480 Yep, you could start anything you want as a Protestant.

01:08:17.340 But let's just be honest.

01:08:18.560 If we tried to start something,

01:08:20.680 it would just be another subset of a subset of a subset of a subset

01:08:25.220 within the larger banner of Protestantism.

01:08:27.980 And this is a point in case in regards to the inherent weakness.

01:08:33.240 I am a Protestant because I believe that doctrinally Protestantism is true. There are 0.81

01:08:39.600 plenty of Protestants that are absolutely terrible, atrocious. The mainline Protestants, 1.00

01:08:44.520 at least here in the West, in European countries, and certainly here in America, 0.51

01:08:48.180 they are almost universally pro-abortion and pro-Sodomite. And so the mainline Protestant

01:08:54.800 churches, denominations in the West, I would say, are not even—they're not just bad churches,

01:09:00.520 they're not even true churches. They are false churches with false teachers. They have women

01:09:05.440 pastors who are not pastors, so you have illegitimate, invalid clergy teaching heretical 0.84

01:09:12.260 doctrines. That's the mainline Protestant. Then there's the subset of that, so if you think 0.97

01:09:17.840 Protestant banner, there's the mainline Protestants, they're gay, and they kill babies in the womb. 1.00

01:09:22.800 Then there's the evangelicals, right? That would be a lot of Baptists, some Methodists, some 1.00

01:09:27.380 Presbyterian, fall into the evangelical category, and the evangelicals, politically speaking,

01:09:33.160 you have to acknowledge this, you know, we would fall into that banner. We think there are plenty,

01:09:37.900 I'm very critical of evangelicals. That said, I am one. And the evangelicals, politically speaking, 1.00

01:09:45.620 they are the lone bulwark against the moral insanity of America. You look at the voting

01:09:50.800 patterns, evangelicals, white evangelicals to be specific. The black evangelicals, not so much

01:09:58.520 in terms of voting patterns. But in terms of voting, white evangelicals, they vote more 0.61

01:10:04.040 conservative against abortion, against homosexuality, against mass immigration, all these

01:10:09.420 things more than white Catholics, more than white mainline Protestants, more than any other

01:10:16.600 group, religious group, that you can name. And so white evangelicals have truly been the lone

01:10:25.800 bulwark for whether it's electing Trump, or whether it's voting against abortion, or whether

01:10:30.540 it's voting against mass immigration, or desiring mass deportations, all these kinds of things.

01:10:36.800 The Catholics, we love our Catholic friends, we are grateful for them. But Catholicism,

01:10:42.260 I do believe is one of the weaknesses with Catholicism is that it is inherently global.

01:10:49.000 It has a global headquarters. Catholicism cannot, in its ecclesiastical polity, encompass

01:10:58.360 nationalism in the way that Protestantism can. You will always have a pope, a vicar of Christ

01:11:06.200 on earth, who is ultimately of one nationality in terms of his origin of birth, and therefore

01:11:14.940 will favor one nation over others, and who will be geographically located in Rome. But yet speaking

01:11:22.800 for the Catholic Church in Ethiopia, and America, and Canada, and Uganda, and there are inherent

01:11:30.100 weaknesses that are baked into that pie. So the strength of Protestantism is that it can be

01:11:37.700 national in its polity, but in terms of having an ecclesiastical polity that really is a true

01:11:43.240 hierarchy, an episcopal polity would be the technical word, you would need, within Protestantism,

01:11:51.400 you would need certain denominations, one, to return to conservative, biblical, traditional

01:11:56.740 views, and then two, to beat out all the others. Predominantly, what I have in mind would be

01:12:04.340 Episcopalian or Anglican. I don't think it's a coincidence that certain Western countries,

01:12:10.820 such as England, if they weren't Catholic and they were Protestant, but they still had a monarchy

01:12:16.660 and a hierarchy within their political polity, they also happened to have, during their Protestant

01:12:22.260 phase, they happened to have a Protestant stream, particular denominational stream,

01:12:28.880 that coincided with an Episcopal polity, a hierarchy. So they had a political hierarchy

01:12:36.300 of monarchy, and then they also happened to be, on the Protestant side, Baptists, no Anglican. 0.99

01:12:43.480 And there's a reason for that. There is a hierarchical ecclesiastical polity that Anglicanism 0.83

01:12:49.800 holds, Episcopalianism holds, that Methodists do not, that Baptists do not. Presbyterians would be 0.89

01:12:55.900 a little bit better, but ultimately do not. So to me, the only hope would be that within

01:13:02.980 the Protestant realm, you would have to have first the Anglicans, they would have to agree to stop 0.99

01:13:10.280 being gay. And that's a big if. That's a big ask for Anglicans and Episcopalians. They love 0.99

01:13:17.020 themselves some gay sex. They really do. You would have to have the Anglicans say, okay, we promised 1.00

01:13:23.020 to stop appointing women, feminist women, gay, affirming, esteeming women as archbishops of 0.71

01:13:33.080 Canterbury. Like, that's a big ask. So you would have to have the Anglicans and Episcopalians would 0.91

01:13:38.680 have to beat out the Baptists. But here's the thing, even though I think their polity may be 0.98

01:13:43.820 better, I'm going to stick with the Baptists, because at least the Baptists aren't homosexuals, 0.95

01:13:49.300 and the Anglicans are. So for this to happen, there's so many contingencies, so many 0.99

01:13:54.440 if this, then maybe that, but ultimately what it would have to be is you would have to have the

01:14:00.780 historic Protestant denominations like the Anglicans, like the Episcopalians, actually

01:14:06.480 become, actually experience some measure of true spiritual revival, repent of their progressive 0.93

01:14:12.060 ideologies, return to true biblical virtues and traditions, and stop being gay, stop being

01:14:19.820 feminist, stop being globalist, and then they would have to, over time, through the richness

01:14:25.400 of their traditions, actually win people over to where they leave the Independent Fundamental 1.00

01:14:31.360 Baptist Church to go to the Anglican Church, because they hold the same conservative positions,

01:14:35.380 but they actually also have the liturgy and the traditions, the transcendent nature,

01:14:42.680 even just in their buildings, the architecture, the vaulted ceilings, the stained glass,

01:14:47.620 and all that is going to take time. Is it possible? I think it's possible, but it's not

01:14:53.600 going to happen overnight. Okay, our next Super Chat. All right, we've got a cool dude who sent

01:14:59.900 in five dollars and said mitt romney john curtis evan mcmullin etc why does utah mormons produce 0.50

01:15:05.560 some of the worst politicians ever they do because they're white liberals and the white liberal is a 0.95

01:15:09.960 terrible thing it's your joe biden's it's your stephen colbert's it's your mitt romney's uh 1.00

01:15:14.840 they suck yep mitt romney uh another another mormon um the problem is i i think in some sense 0.99

01:15:21.600 um there is you know a lot of white people struggle with white guilt but mormons i think 1.00

01:15:26.220 especially, because there really was a time within official Mormon doctrine that they believed that

01:15:31.840 black people were black because... Then they looked at BYU's athletic program, and they're like,

01:15:37.160 we've got to change something. We want to win some championships here. God has given us a new 0.86

01:15:41.800 revelation. So Mormon theology, you can watch the old videos from the 60s and the 70s, animated

01:15:49.040 cartoon videos that quite seriously, it's not a joke. They believe that black people 0.76

01:15:56.220 were, you know, like fallen angels or cursed, particularly cursed in some way or whatever. 0.87

01:16:03.820 And I think that they have kind of a chip on their shoulder.

01:16:07.080 They still struggle with that guilt.

01:16:09.780 And really what it is to be consistent, it's not that they were this way and now they feel sorry, you know,

01:16:15.400 and so they've gone to the opposite end of the spectrum.

01:16:17.760 Really what Mormonism has always done is because it's not rooted in divine revelation,

01:16:23.780 and because it's a novelty, Mormonism has basically just adapted

01:16:29.460 to whatever the cultural winds are at that given moment.

01:16:33.720 And so it's like, why are the Mormons so weak on some of these issues? 0.91

01:16:41.620 It's because that is kind of inherent to Mormonism

01:16:44.300 because it's not tried and true, because it's not old, it's not settled,

01:16:49.440 it's not solidified and stable.

01:16:51.840 Mormonism is a novelty that just follows the cultural winds of that moment.

01:16:57.020 So because of that, I think Mormons are pretty nice people and make for nice neighbors, 0.88

01:17:04.520 but you're not going to be able to count on the Mormons to go against the grain, to go upstream. 0.99

01:17:11.120 Very true. Yeah, I would even argue they're the quintessential white liberal in the sense that 0.99

01:17:17.380 Their interpersonal, inter-societal relations are all predicated on the concept of niceness.

01:17:25.220 And we've talked about this before with respect to Minnesota and Minnesota nice and how white liberals can get caught in that schema.

01:17:30.960 And I think Mormons, more than anything, predicate their evangelism on the concept of let me give as much as I can to someone who disagrees with me in order that I might emotionally manipulate them through my character,

01:17:46.000 how I treat them, becoming their friend, that I might actually get some concessions from them.

01:17:51.480 And so we've seen this time and time again.

01:17:53.720 It's embodied again in people like Mitt Romney who have exercised this kind of practice,

01:18:01.060 I guess you could say, throughout their political career.

01:18:03.820 Yep, so I agree. 1.00

01:18:04.720 Mormons, like you said, Joel, you can never really count on a Mormon to have some spine 0.83

01:18:08.960 and be willing to be considered not nice in order to achieve something. 0.93

01:18:14.320 Yep.

01:18:14.720 So Caleb Gleason, he wrote in and said, why are Reformed bros, so Reformed Protestants, so big on expository preaching, exegetical preaching, having a text of Scripture and exegeting, reading out of the text in interpretation what we believe that God intended, rather than exegeting, reading into the text the opinions and preferences of men.

01:18:37.520 So why are they so big on exegetical or expository preaching when none of the preaching or letters

01:18:43.800 in the apostolic church were expository? One simple answer, twofold answer. Number one,

01:18:51.640 I would say that the book of Hebrews is expository, the entire thing. It is the apostles'

01:18:58.620 exposition, much of the Psalms, many Old Testament texts saying, you know, Jesus is greater than

01:19:04.820 Moses. Jesus is greater than the angels. Jesus is greater than this, the Jewish, Abrahamic,

01:19:10.980 you know, priestly sacrificial system. And with each chapter, many references to Old Testament

01:19:18.920 text, and using the Old Testament and those particular texts, whether it be Isaiah or Psalms,

01:19:24.440 in order to exegete, to read out of those texts the meaning that the New Testament apostle is

01:19:31.900 conveying under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. So I would say, number one, there are

01:19:36.080 many letters. Romans would be another example. Hebrews would be an example. Galatians, to some

01:19:42.740 extent, is another example where these New Testament apostolic writings actually are

01:19:48.680 expositional. So one, I would just fundamentally disagree with the question. But number two,

01:19:53.940 I would say that if you disagree with me and you're like, no, I don't really think that's

01:19:57.440 expositional. I would just say that the apostolic writings, they're revelatory. So when you say,

01:20:05.360 well, you know, Reformed ministers and clergy are preaching expositionally, but the apostles

01:20:11.780 weren't. Well, one of the major differences, a simple answer to that, is that the apostles were

01:20:16.860 still receiving new revelation. So the Holy Spirit was actually revealing to the apostles

01:20:21.860 new revelation, and that was the basis of their letters, and the basis of many of their teachings

01:20:27.180 was that God was still revealing something, but as Reformed Protestants, we believe that the canon

01:20:32.340 is actually closed, and we do not believe that the Church has actually, contains within it,

01:20:40.100 an inherent authority equal to the Scriptures. So if you're not Reformed and you're not Protestant,

01:20:46.440 then you may hold to a position that says that Scripture and tradition are two equal streams,

01:20:51.500 equally authoritative, in which case there could be new revelations and new traditions

01:20:57.360 that are added. They're not added to the canon of Scripture, but they carry the same weight and

01:21:04.360 authority that's equal to the Scripture. But within Protestant theology, that's simply not

01:21:08.540 the case. So we believe, you know, the idea of sola scriptura is not that Scripture is the only

01:21:14.420 authority. Church tradition is an authority, and it's a significant one. But we believe that

01:21:19.920 Scripture is the only infallible authority. All other authorities can be credible, can be valid,

01:21:25.520 can be significant, but they're not infallible. They can err. So Scripture alone is the only

01:21:30.400 infallible authority, and it's also the highest authority. So tradition can err, and also tradition,

01:21:37.640 even when it does not err, is subjugated to Scripture as the higher authority. So within

01:21:43.280 the Protestant framework, on the Reformed side of the aisle, historic Reformed Protestants,

01:21:48.860 the reason why so much of the preaching is expositional or exegetical is because we believe

01:21:55.460 that God's revelation has ceased, that there is no new revelation, that God is not continuing to

01:22:01.680 reveal new things, that the Bible is not only inherent, but it's also sufficient. So it's the

01:22:11.520 sufficiency of Scripture, believing that God has revealed all that is necessary for life

01:22:17.460 and godliness. And so we're going to constantly be going back through the scriptures again and

01:22:23.220 again, whereas the apostles in apostolic teaching and letters, that wasn't the case. The apostles

01:22:29.580 were actually adding new revelation from the Spirit during that particular segment of the

01:22:34.640 church age to the canon. The canon was not yet closed, new revelation from God was coming in,

01:22:40.520 and we believe that that simply ceased today. So that would be my answer to that. We have one more

01:22:45.600 Super Chat on Rumble. This is from Tweller1776, and they wrote in, follow up from JNR, which is

01:22:55.220 more achievable, reconciliation with Roman Catholic Church and reformation of their occultic

01:23:03.580 practices or unification of many Protestant denominations to recreate the central governance

01:23:10.920 of the Church? That's a great question. Wes and Antonio, do you have any thoughts?

01:23:15.600 I mean, we've talked about this before, and we've had this question over on the Right

01:23:19.240 Response side.

01:23:19.880 I think we've done an episode on Rome and Reformation and what our hopes would be, and

01:23:23.860 I would just reiterate that here, that my hope is that the Reformation, and just in

01:23:28.360 short, if I had to have a sticker, I would say, I hope that the Reformation works.

01:23:32.800 That's my prayer, is that we don't lose sight of the gospel, and I think the Reformation

01:23:37.460 was right in its attempt to reemphasize the right theology, if you will, the right soteriology.

01:23:45.600 And we will not sacrifice that as Protestants to reunify with the Catholic Church, and my

01:23:50.440 prayer is that they come to realize that in God's providence, in time, that we should

01:23:56.200 have unity on that, and that the Reformation, as I said, would be successful, and Protestants

01:24:01.620 would be reintegrated.

01:24:02.880 Yeah, that's a great question, like, in terms of the likelihood.

01:24:05.880 I haven't thought of it quite like that.

01:24:07.440 We've always hoped, like you said, Antonio, that the Catholic Church would actually repent.

01:24:12.100 We don't want it to be removed, we want it to be reformed.

01:24:15.600 But let's just assume for a moment that it would be, that in God's providence,

01:24:19.500 that the Catholic Church repents of, you know, the Council of Trent,

01:24:22.600 it repents of Vatican II, it repents of certain doctrines. 0.58

01:24:26.780 It still wouldn't be perfect, just like the Protestant Church is far from perfect,

01:24:30.940 but let's just say that it repents of those things that are outstanding, 0.99

01:24:34.960 and it becomes doctrinally sufficient,

01:24:41.280 and getting rid of some of the most errant doctrines that is held,

01:24:47.240 if that be the case.

01:24:48.900 I like the framing of this question because it is interesting

01:24:51.880 in terms of just likelihood predictions.

01:24:54.780 I think that there is, if I had to answer,

01:24:57.340 there's probably a greater likelihood of if the Catholic Church repented,

01:25:01.900 it would be much easier for Protestants to fold into the Catholic Church,

01:25:06.820 a repentant Catholic Church that already has the structures.

01:25:11.280 than for Protestants to figure something out that they have not yet been able to figure out in 500

01:25:15.520 years. Like if I'm just thinking of the likelihood, the Catholic Church has a structure, it has the

01:25:21.100 polity. Now the problem though is that I still think in terms of nationalism that you would

01:25:28.680 have to do something about the Pope. So it's not just that the Catholic Church would have to

01:25:34.960 not anathematize, you know, salvation by grace through faith in Christ alone, you know, certain

01:25:40.560 things within Trent, but the Catholic Church would also have to maintain its hierarchical polity,

01:25:47.420 but no longer hold to a singular pope who is, you know, has a global geographic location but

01:25:55.220 speaks for all the Catholic Church in all nations, and so that would be tough. But it feels like

01:26:02.780 Catholic Church did reform, if it did repent, then I think that many Protestants would just say,

01:26:10.520 okay, that was our hang-up, that's what was holding us back, and yeah, we'll fold in. There 0.51

01:26:18.120 would still be some that would not, and they would continue doing their thing, but I think that over

01:26:22.840 time that would probably fade, and so if I'm just thinking of what's the probability, it seems more

01:26:28.360 probable of having some sense of order and structure within the Catholic Church repentant

01:26:35.400 than Protestants somehow doing something that they have yet to be able to achieve in half a 0.83

01:26:42.580 millennium. Yeah. Peter Lightheart makes the point. He said there was a time when someone like Luther 0.94

01:26:47.720 or even Wycliffe, they would never be able to see what would happen that would escape the grip of 0.89

01:26:52.840 the Catholic Church. You could almost phrase the question, like, will Democrats come to their 0.78

01:26:56.200 senses and back off of wokeness and immigration? Or will the right be able to coalesce? And the

01:27:00.520 answer is actually probably neither. There will probably be a movement or something that supersedes

01:27:04.520 that dialectic tension between the both of them. And so necessarily, I'm not necessarily bullish on

01:27:09.320 Protestantism, as it exists right now, Catholicism, as it exists right now, but that in the future,

01:27:14.780 God's going to do something that right now, none of us could anticipate. None of us could predict.

01:27:18.940 A new schema that hopefully incorporates the best things of Protestantism, the best things of

01:27:24.120 Catholicism, and forms a new tradition that actually lasts and has the integrity and is

01:27:28.920 robust in a way neither of these traditions are right now.

01:27:31.580 Yep, well said.

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