The NXR Podcast - NXR Livestream - Florida’s Next Governor (w⧸James Fishback)

00:00:00.000 Today we'll be having a conversation with James Fishbeck.

00:00:02.760 He's running to be the next governor

00:00:04.900 of the great state of Florida, replacing Ron DeSantis. 0.93

00:00:08.320 And he's running against another shill for Israel, 0.62

00:00:11.600 another guy who wants to flood his state with H-1B visas 0.81

00:00:15.500 and set up Section 8 housing

00:00:17.560 and set up a bunch of AI data centers

00:00:20.780 that make electricity and utilities

00:00:23.000 and cost of living higher for native Floridians.

00:00:26.720 But that guy, Byron Donalds, of course,

00:00:29.200 in typical fashion, sadly, has the Trump endorsement. He has MAGA behind him, tons of

00:00:35.560 funding, tons of support. And yet, James Fishback actually has a chance of winning. He's running a

00:00:44.020 campaign that prioritizes heritage Floridians. And this is a big deal, not only for Florida, but

00:00:50.300 it serves as a canary in the coal mines when we look forward to the midterms and to even 2028

00:00:57.900 At a national level, American politics is changing, and we think for the better.

00:01:04.660 It's moving in a positive direction, where we would no longer prioritize foreign countries,

00:01:09.800 we would no longer prioritize mass immigration and all these kinds of things,

00:01:14.340 but we would put Americans first.

00:01:16.580 America first means Americans first.

00:01:19.760 And no, not paperwork Americans, but actual Americans, heritage Americans.

00:01:26.500 James Fishback is running an excellent campaign.

00:01:29.380 He's hitting all the right talking points.

00:01:32.060 It's changing the game in American politics, and it's worth us investigating to learn a

00:01:38.440 little more.

00:01:39.140 Today's episode is brought to you by one of our premier sponsors, Saga Medals.

00:01:43.520 You can find details in the show notes below.

00:01:46.560 Tune in now.

00:01:49.540 Radical Christian nationalist pastor, Joel Webin.

00:01:53.460 Joel Webin.

00:01:54.060 I'm going to talk about Joel Webben.

00:01:56.600 Joel Webben is an accident.

00:02:17.300 At the foot of Mount Sinai, a nation met its god in thunder and fire.

00:02:24.060 From that covenant flowed the faith of Abraham, Moses, and the prophets, fulfilled, not replaced, in Christ.

00:02:34.180 But somewhere between the martyrs and the modern West, the truth was blurred.

00:02:40.360 Politicians and pastors began speaking of a Judeo-Christian civilization.

00:02:45.980 A phrase born not of Sinai, but in Washington

00:02:51.220 Tracing its roots not to Moses, but to the Pharisees

00:02:55.280 The hyphenated heresy challenges the myth of the hyphen

00:03:00.580 Tracing how it reshaped Christian identity 0.74

00:03:03.660 Redefined the church's witness 0.87

00:03:05.840 And bound modern faith to political Zionism 0.79

00:03:16.700 We are live. Here we are. We are with James Fishback. He is running for Florida governor, 0.75

00:03:22.500 and we're going to be taking Super Chats. We're going to give it about an hour worth of discussion.

00:03:26.860 We'll go to another break for a couple more messages from our sponsors, and then we'll be

00:03:32.000 doing the Super Chats. Here's the deal, though, and this is going to be tough for some of our

00:03:35.900 audience. You know who you are. The Super Chat has to be on topic. It has to be somewhat related

00:03:41.560 to james fishback actually running for governor in florida uh if you give us a super chat um about

00:03:48.940 interracial marriage uh you just you're gonna have to make a comment and tag me on twitter and

00:03:54.220 i'll do my best you know to get to it there but we're not going to do that today uh we are focusing

00:03:58.560 on an important race in florida happening now james thanks for coming on the show welcome

00:04:03.880 okay i do not have james volume we're gonna have to fix that real quick could just be me

00:04:11.520 That was AIPAC, sorry.

00:04:12.600 Oh, there we go.

00:04:13.560 That was AIPAC interfering, of course.

00:04:16.100 If you just took some of their money, you'd be okay.

00:04:18.480 I believe by the grace of God, a day is coming and not 20 years in the future.

00:04:22.160 I think soon to where guys who have taken AIPAC money are going to try to scrub it,

00:04:27.120 try to hide it, try to literally be chasing down AIPAC.

00:04:31.000 Please take it back because it'll be like an albatross around their neck.

00:04:34.820 You won't be able to win an election in America if you have taken AIPAC funding.

00:04:39.380 Do you think that's possible?

00:04:41.100 I think it is possible because it utterly compromises you. You can't go and say you're America first, Joel, and then take money associated with a foreign government and then push for policies to the detriment of Americans to the benefit of that foreign government. It doesn't matter who that foreign government is. Israel, Qatar, China, the UK. It could even be Sweden. It could even be the IKEA meatballs people. It does not matter.

00:05:04.940 If you take money from a foreign government, you have forever tainted your ability to be pure in the eyes of the public. And even if, even if it were the case that you weren't using that money and that influence to pervert your thinking and priorities, you would still have the stain from the public's point of view that you were compromised. Either one, good or bad. Best case scenario, you are still in the eyes of the public compromised.

00:05:33.360 Yeah, well said. Now, there's one narrative against you. There's a few, but there's one that I do want to focus on at some point in this interview. So I'm going to ask you some questions because I think it's fair to the listener. But before that, let's just do 30,000 foot view, macro, big picture. Give us whatever, I don't know, the number is arbitrary. Maybe it's three, maybe it's eight, whatever. But what are the big bullet points that you're running on?

00:06:02.200 what are you going to do for people in Florida? Well, I would sum up the campaign really in one

00:06:07.460 word, and that's affordability. Not in an abstract sense, but honestly, Joel, in an existential sense,

00:06:13.800 the great replacement is real. And affordability is really at the heart of that, right? I mean,

00:06:19.500 if they bring in another 100,000 Indian H-1Bs from Calcutta or Mumbai, and you can't have a job, 1.00

00:06:26.220 you cannot literally afford anything, let alone a home, let alone a car, let alone the ability to 1.00

00:06:33.060 get married and have kids and raise a God-fearing family. If they continue to let Blackstone, 1.00

00:06:38.420 BlackRock, Airbnb, and foreign nationals buy up and hoard our single-family homes, 0.99

00:06:43.980 you cannot buy a home, get married, and raise a family. And so I don't mean affordability in this 1.00

00:06:50.140 abstract Democrat sense where they use that word, they throw that word around as a Trojan horse to

00:06:55.460 push through socialist ideologies. I mean it in a very existential sense that if the people who

00:07:00.880 built this country and in my state in particular are getting priced out and pushed out, then we

00:07:06.720 need to fight back. And so I believe that Florida, no offense to you guys in Texas, but I believe

00:07:11.880 that Florida is the greatest state in the country. But that is little consolation if the people who

00:07:16.520 made it the greatest state in the country can no longer afford to live here. And so my mission as

00:07:22.840 governor is very simple. I want to make it easy for young people to buy a home, to start a family,

00:07:28.920 to live out the full arc of the American dream. I want to make it easier for seniors to stay in 0.98

00:07:33.400 their homes. And I'll do that by eliminating property taxes across the board for Florida

00:07:37.640 residents. I want to make it easy for our recent college grads to get jobs. That means ending the

00:07:43.060 H-1B scam. I want to recognize that Florida did not cut its teeth on being a financial capital,

00:07:48.780 but by being a citrus capital, a cattle capital, a space capital, a tourism capital,

00:07:54.900 that there's really a fork in the road. Do you want old Florida or do you want new Florida?

00:07:59.480 If you want new Florida, if you want an AI data center where a cattle ranch or a citrus grove

00:08:03.640 once stood, then Byron Donalds is your candidate. If you want to make Florida the financial capital

00:08:08.980 of the world and bring in more hedge funds and private equity, then Byron Donalds is your

00:08:13.560 candidate. If you want to speed up the construction of Section 8 housing, then Byron Donalds is

00:08:18.760 your candidate. But if you believe in the dignity of heritage Americans, if you believe that the

00:08:23.540 identity and history of our state is not negotiable, if you want a governor who's not

00:08:28.100 going to apologize for our history, or in the case of Byron Donald's, he wants to change the

00:08:32.820 flag of Florida because it so closely resembles that of the Confederacy. He is ashamed of our

00:08:40.500 Confederate history, and I'll never apologize for our Confederate history as governor. Then I am the

00:08:46.300 candidate who will not just make life a little easier, but a lot more affordable. And there's

00:08:50.900 a lot that can be said about the specifics, the nuances of that. But I think the number one

00:08:55.940 litmus test for so-called operative word, so-called Republicans, is whether or not they

00:09:03.040 will acknowledge the fact that we are being replaced right now. A Republican that does not

00:09:08.020 acknowledge the great replacement, let alone has a plan to overturn it, has no business getting

00:09:14.440 anyone's vote yeah well said uh it does seem like you know guys have talked uh in the the back

00:09:21.780 alleys of the internet about horseshoe theory you know and um that as guys are you know particularly

00:09:27.320 young white men uh trending more right wing in their politics and then of course the left has

00:09:33.080 progressed further and further and further towards communism and extreme forms of you know socialism

00:09:38.800 but a global socialism that completely erodes and replaces the native population of a nation.

00:09:46.780 But yet, as these things are happening, there seems to be, you know, and people point it out

00:09:51.240 as a gotcha, you know, but some measure of overlap, this horseshoe theory. And, you know,

00:09:57.440 I think there's some validity to that. But more than that, the way that I would articulate what

00:10:03.160 What I see happening in American politics that is somewhat novel is simply a breaking down of the left-right paradigm, of the Democrat-Republican paradigm.

00:10:14.860 If you're going to run for office, you're still going, at this point, you have to run under one of those two major parties.

00:10:21.060 That's simply the way that our political system works at this current juncture.

00:10:26.180 So I'm not saying somebody on a GOP ticket that that's somehow a mark against them.

00:10:31.240 If I was going to run, I would run with the GOP, but it seems like there's a grassroots swell, not just on one side, not just, you know, the forever, you know, Republican voters that are going to come out, but actually on both sides of the aisle, this bipartisan sentiment that's growing of, look, this guy, some of the moral and cultural things that he stands for, like, for instance, being against abortion or being explicitly Christian.

00:10:58.940 There's people on the left who would be like, eh, don't like it.

00:11:03.640 But my biggest focus right now is can I afford groceries?

00:11:08.600 Can I afford housing?

00:11:09.860 And so that affordability issue has become kind of this grassroots bipartisan issue.

00:11:15.980 And you and also I think of Casey in Ohio.

00:11:22.660 But the two of you, and there's a couple other guys, are kind of functioning right now.

00:11:27.300 and the verdict's still out i'm hopeful and prayerful um but you know but the verdict is

00:11:32.380 still out but you're serving as canaries in the coal mine to see like is this is this viable is

00:11:38.780 this kind of platform is this rhetoric is this mission this focus viable and right now i'm i

00:11:45.360 mean it seems like there's a lot of momentum like like it really might be viable that it might kind

00:11:50.260 of change the paradigm of american politics from from not what it always was but at least what

00:11:55.740 it's recently been in the past few decades of just neoconservativism. And we'll abort 15 less

00:12:04.560 babies. We'll celebrate homosexuality, but not transgenderism. Or no, we'll celebrate 1.00

00:12:12.060 transgenderism, just you got to wait till you're 18 years old, and not for a 14 year old. And it's 0.99

00:12:18.920 just the lesser of two evils. And one side is just, conservatives just enshrining the

00:12:25.160 the victories of the left just six months after that battle was fought and lost. But what you're

00:12:31.300 arguing for is, look, these cultural things matter. And I've heard some of your rhetoric

00:12:36.480 and really being courageous, and I appreciate that. I heard you, it was like a video where

00:12:41.620 you were surrounded by a bunch of young men outside, and you're saying, no, no, no, we're

00:12:44.900 not going to happy Diwali. No, we don't do that here. This is America. Merry Christmas. 0.98

00:12:51.600 Christ is king.

00:12:53.260 And so I see that with you.

00:12:54.700 I also saw you saying, yeah, we're going to shut down every abortion clinic, which was

00:12:58.660 incredibly encouraging. 1.00

00:13:01.100 And so those things are there, and they should be there.

00:13:03.400 That's good.

00:13:04.020 There's not a compromise.

00:13:05.620 But it seems like the front-facing view is you can feed your kids.

00:13:10.540 You can start a family.

00:13:11.620 You can live the kind of life that your parents were able to live and took for granted.

00:13:16.560 Is that an accurate way of expressing kind of your strategy?

00:13:22.180 Well, I think it is, Joel.

00:13:23.560 And I think that this idea of the lesser of two evils is exactly how we got into this mess.

00:13:29.500 Why can't we just have someone who is good as opposed to lukewarm?

00:13:33.800 Why can't we have a vision that doesn't just wag our fingers and say the left this and the left that

00:13:39.060 and actually assert an affirmative vision of pride in who we are as Americans?

00:13:46.080 I'm sorry. I'm sick of the Republicans whining about we defeated the drag queens. We banned the 0.99

00:13:52.120 drag queens. How about this? Why don't you ban Blackstone from buying up homes so young white 1.00

00:13:57.820 men can actually buy a home and get married and start a family? It's the bread and circus all 1.00

00:14:04.780 over again. Look, none of us like drag queens. None of us like this DEI stuff being rammed down 1.00

00:14:10.520 our throat. But at the end of the day, we have got to do something other than push out performative

00:14:16.240 slop. The lukewarm Republicans have no place in the party. Joel, I'm reminded, of course, of

00:14:21.860 Revelation chapter three, verse 15, where we are told that you're lukewarm. You were neither hot

00:14:29.100 nor cold, so I spit you out. We have a very high bar we have to reach as Christians. And as

00:14:35.020 Americans, I don't think it's enough to simply say what we are against. What are we actually

00:14:40.340 for. As a candidate, I am running for governor because I am for our people being able to get

00:14:47.180 great paying jobs again, buy a home again, get married again, raise a family again, and live out 1.00

00:14:54.600 the full arc of the American dream, not letting any third world migrant or first world billion 0.98

00:15:00.220 dollar corporation get in their way. And when I do these events all across the state, all 67 counties 0.99

00:15:07.900 I'll be visiting over the next three months. Afterward, I've got Republicans coming up after

00:15:13.420 me saying, yeah, we're going to vote for you. But I've got Democrats and independents saying,

00:15:18.000 I am changing my party affiliation and then sending us screenshots over Instagram afterward,

00:15:23.740 changing their party affiliation so they can vote for our campaign in the closed Republican primary

00:15:29.400 on August 18th. That is the kind of vision that we need. It would not be possible without a lot

00:15:34.960 of people who have really paved the way for this America First vision to be built up. But I'm

00:15:40.660 honored to be out here meeting with voters, earning their trust. And I'll tell you, it's

00:15:44.380 not going to be easy. The America First movement has been burned many a times by slick candidates

00:15:49.280 like Vivek Ramaswamy coming out of nowhere, promising us the world and then falling off

00:15:54.560 the face of the earth. We have to have real candidates, candidates who are willing, as was

00:15:59.420 the case with President Reagan, to not just ask for that trust, but ask to be verified,

00:16:04.460 ask to be vetted. And I'm never going to ask my state to blindly trust me. I'm simply going to

00:16:08.980 ask for the opportunity to earn their trust. We've got eight months to go, and I want to earn

00:16:12.880 every single vote that I can. That's awesome. All right. I'm going to ask you rapid fire

00:16:17.020 questions. Here we go. Let's go. President Trump, he's going to cap 10% interest on credit cards.

00:16:24.280 Do you like that?

00:16:25.960 How do you feel about usury?

00:16:27.880 I'm fully against usury.

00:16:29.740 The Florida legislature actually passed a law way back in 1891 that prohibited usury above 18%.

00:16:36.540 And so as Florida governor, I'll be the first in a generation to actually enforce the usury

00:16:41.600 laws that are already on the books.

00:16:43.500 Oftentimes as a society, we point to a problem and say, we must create a new law to defeat

00:16:48.740 this problem.

00:16:49.640 What I'm going to do is I'm going to go back to history.

00:16:51.140 I'm going to go back to the state statutes, going back to the late 1900s if I need to,

00:16:55.940 and the late 19th century, rather, if I need to, and understand what laws are on the books

00:17:01.480 already and enforce those laws that are on the books. And so I support any measure by President

00:17:07.020 Trump to make it easier for people to afford living in America today. Because I'll tell you,

00:17:12.540 it's very easy to live in America as an illegal immigrant, as an H-1B. It's very difficult to 0.93

00:17:17.880 live in this country right now as an American citizen. And standing up to usury, it may be

00:17:22.420 unpopular, it may piss off some interests, but at the end of the day, it's the right thing to do.

00:17:26.860 Amen. 50-year mortgages, how do you feel? Well, I would start off by calling it the

00:17:31.120 50 years of usury, to be completely honest. If you look at the math on the 50-year mortgage,

00:17:35.060 you put down $250,000 over the course of just the first couple of years paying down payments.

00:17:40.140 and for $250,000 of interest, you'll gain $18,000 of equity. That is a rigged system

00:17:47.680 against American citizens. I understand the instinct to want to make it more affordable

00:17:52.980 to buy a home, but financing that over 20 extra years is not the way to do it. The way to do it

00:17:57.880 here in Florida is to deport every single one of the 1.4 million illegals who are living in 1.00

00:18:02.480 single-family homes. It's to ban foreign nationals like Chinese and Canadian from

00:18:06.480 buying single-family homes. It's to ban and force the divestiture of Blackstone owning single-family

00:18:11.980 homes. And what you'll do is you'll bring hundreds of thousands of homes on the market. There will be

00:18:16.440 a new equilibrium clearing price, and you'll allow people to actually buy homes. And in a very small

00:18:21.220 way, one thing that I'll do is I've already said that the foolish Republicans and Democrats who 0.86

00:18:25.720 sent $385 million of taxpayer money to Israel in the form of government bond purchases, I'll divest 0.62

00:18:32.440 those via executive order on day one. And then I'll create something called Rise and Shine,

00:18:37.800 which is a statewide down payment assistance program to help young married couples buy their

00:18:43.300 first home. If you're young and you're married and one of you is working full time and you've

00:18:47.460 been living in our state for five years, there is a $10,000 check with your name on it for you to

00:18:52.500 buy your first home. Because in Florida, we recognize that homes are for families, that

00:18:56.140 homes are not merely an asset on the balance sheet. They are actually a fundamental precondition

00:19:01.500 to be able to start a family, to buy dirt, to put a couple branches on the family tree. A home

00:19:07.000 is where we celebrate Christmas, Easter, July 4th. We've got a dog, we've got a family. We make

00:19:13.560 indelible memories with our kids and with their grandkids and so on and so forth. And so at the

00:19:18.840 end of the day, I am running because homeownership is essentially existential to what we're building

00:19:23.480 here in America. Well said. All right. AI data centers. Why are they a problem? Why are they

00:19:28.980 immoral, what are you going to do? Well, there's a lot of reasons why they're a problem. But right

00:19:33.720 off the bat, the biggest thing is that an AI data center represents somewhere between 500,000 to 1

00:19:39.000 million new homes in terms of energy. And so when you bring on that kind of energy demand onto a

00:19:44.240 limited power grid, you get one of two things. You get higher electric bills for everyone else.

00:19:49.480 So essentially, locals have to subsidize OpenAI and Elon Musk building out the AI data center.

00:19:55.720 And then second, because there's limited bandwidth on the electricity grid, you end up getting rolling blackouts. So you want South African-style energy production. You're going to get that in a community toward you. And then I think on a second point, what ends up happening is what does the AI data center say about us as a state?

00:20:12.280 Where Citrus Groves once stood, a now massive, monstrous AI data center that makes a Costco look

00:20:19.300 like a 7-Eleven will now stand. It is going to be ugly. It is going to threaten the environment.

00:20:24.860 It is going to be an eyesore. And these are not hypothetical arguments. These are already

00:20:28.800 materializing in Georgia, in Pennsylvania, in Tennessee, where these AI data centers are being

00:20:34.900 built. You're seeing higher than expected electric bills. You're seeing it's affecting the water

00:20:40.300 supply locally. And again, it's this massive eyesore. And so I don't think as Floridians,

00:20:45.040 we can pretend that we are something that we are not. We are a state that has a proud heritage of

00:20:50.580 agriculture, of citrus, of cattle, of space, of the Everglades, of wide open range. And we cannot

00:20:57.660 lose that for a quick buck via AI data centers. As Florida governor, I will preempt and block all

00:21:04.360 AI data centers that threaten our water supply and threaten to raise our electric bills.

00:21:09.100 Well said. H-1B visas, what are you going to do? Are they good? Are they bad? What's the solution?

00:21:16.200 Well, in the words of Clint Eastwood, they're neither good nor bad. They are ugly. And why

00:21:20.960 H-1B visas are really bad is because they sell American workers off to India. What an H-1B visa 1.00

00:21:28.860 does is it allows a foreign third world slave laborer known as an Indian to come in and do the 0.99

00:21:34.760 wage, do the job at half price. And so now an American here in Florida, Jacksonville, Orlando, 0.82

00:21:41.480 Fort Lauderdale, wherever, they get laid off, not because they didn't do the job right, 1.00

00:21:45.700 but because they got replaced by a third world Indian who was willing to do it cheaper. I have 1.00

00:21:50.740 a very, very strong belief that American jobs are for Americans. I am not an economic corporatist.

00:21:58.080 I am an economic nationalist. I believe that the economy must work for American citizens.

00:22:03.720 and if it doesn't, then it is not an economy worth envying or worth praising. I don't care

00:22:09.160 about GDP or the stock market. I think those are nice to haves, but the need to have, the need to

00:22:14.600 have is, are our people gainfully employed, not just for the wage that it represents, but for the

00:22:21.220 dignity it imparts on young men and women to be able to have a job, to be self-sufficient, that

00:22:26.740 when you have an income, you're more likely to get married, to have a home, to have kids. You're less

00:22:32.080 likely to fall victim to the vices of pornography, of addiction, of substance abuse, of all of that.

00:22:38.580 And so I recognize that a job, once again, is not merely a pay stub or a direct deposit. It is the

00:22:45.160 beginning of a self-disciplined routine that allows men and women to really cut their teeth, to really

00:22:52.120 get an understanding of what it means to contribute to their community. And so, yes, the H-1B program 0.77

00:22:57.380 replaces American citizens here in Florida, but it also robs them of their very essence,

00:23:02.780 of their very identity. And as Florida governor, what I'll do is I'm not playing games with these 1.00

00:23:06.880 companies. They have a very simple choice. Do you want to have access to the billions of dollars

00:23:11.180 in state contracts, or do you want to keep your H-1Bs? Because if you are one of the tens of 0.92

00:23:16.120 thousands of companies that have access to our state contracts in Tallahassee, and you want to 0.93

00:23:20.480 keep H-1Bs, you are no longer going to have access to those state contracts. No state contracts for 1.00

00:23:26.240 companies that replace American citizens who have done nothing wrong. And if we need to, Joel,

00:23:31.460 what we'll end up doing is we'll put a fine on these companies. So it recalibrates the market

00:23:36.280 price. It removes the arbitrage. So for example, you lay off somebody who's making $70,000 a year

00:23:41.520 and replace them with someone who's going to make $35,000 a year. Guess what? We're going to fine

00:23:46.880 you $35,000 for that worker. So now you don't have a choice. You got $70,000 for the guy you

00:23:54.180 just let go, or you've got $70,000 for the H-1B Indian. At that point, you've reasserted this 1.00

00:24:00.680 market equilibrium. So there's now no cost incentive to replace that young man from 1.00

00:24:06.340 Jacksonville with that young woman from Mumbai. I think that as Florida governor, if I'm judged by 0.67

00:24:12.180 one thing and one thing only, is do jobs go to our people or do they not? I'm sick and tired of

00:24:18.640 these job announcements, these job statistics that, oh, all of a sudden we created a thousand

00:24:23.220 jobs at this factory for Hyundai. Well, did those jobs go to American citizens or not?

00:24:28.120 Because for the longest time, we've touted made in America. Made in America was the gold standard.

00:24:33.800 No, no, no, no. Not those three words. Let's bring that out to five words. Made in America

00:24:40.000 by Americans. We cannot make in America by Indians or by immigrants or by foreigners. 0.99

00:24:45.860 If we're not making in America by Americans, then there's absolutely no point. Because at 1.00

00:24:49.740 end of the day. We can't make America great again with illegals. We can't make America great again 1.00

00:24:53.980 with H-1Bs, with Chinese, with Indians. Sure as heck not with the stealing Somalians. We have to 1.00

00:24:58.840 make America great again with Americans. Right. Free market or Americans? What should be 0.73

00:25:05.140 prioritized? I think the free market is an excellent way to deliver for a free people.

00:25:11.180 But the truth is that the free market, capitalism, laissez-faire economics, that is merely a means

00:25:16.360 to an end. We're not going to sit here and say, you know what? We have the freest market in the

00:25:21.040 world. We are the freest, most capitalist system in the world while our vets are living on the

00:25:26.600 streets, while young couples are getting outbid by Blackstone, while a young college grad who 1.00

00:25:31.320 studied computer science and did everything right gets replaced by an Indian H-1B. We can't sit here 1.00

00:25:36.500 and say that we are the freest market when our people are afflicted with substance abuse, dying

00:25:41.160 of overdose have been drawn into lust and pornography. No, no, the free market is not

00:25:47.780 the goal. It is a way to achieve the goal. But a free people is the goal of free people of

00:25:53.580 American citizens who are not being replaced by billion dollar private equity firms, by foreign

00:25:58.640 nationals, by illegals, by H1Bs. We have to remember that the free market is a vehicle to 0.93

00:26:05.000 get to the destination, but a free people, a dignified people, a unified American people

00:26:11.040 is the only goal that we should strive for. Well said. Is abortion murder?

00:26:16.460 Yes. And there's no compromising for me on abortion. Abortion is either murder or it isn't.

00:26:21.800 It's either a Holocaust or it isn't. It is either the greatest genocide in human history 0.77

00:26:26.600 or it isn't. And so I'm sick and tired of people like Byron Donald saying things like,

00:26:31.840 We need to compromise and we need a European system of abortion. He said last year that, quote, abortion is a medical procedure. No, Byron, abortion is murder. And so as Florida governor, I'm going to shut down every single abortion clinic in our state.

00:26:46.540 And the reason why is because young women are being captured by the abortion industry, are being fed the lie that an unexpected, unplanned pregnancy is a curse.

00:26:57.600 No, every pregnancy is a gift from our Christian God.

00:27:01.480 And I'm going to stop that slanderous lie dead in its track in our public schools.

00:27:05.660 But, Joel, I am not just going to shut down or perhaps even burn down every single abortion clinic in our state.

00:27:12.200 I am going to erect a Christian crisis pregnancy center right where that abortion center once stood.

00:27:20.220 And the reason why is because when young women are faced with an unexpected pregnancy, they deserve our grace, they deserve our patience, and they deserve the full weight of our community behind them.

00:27:32.320 I'm reminded that the greatest woman to ever live, the Blessed Virgin, the mother of our Lord and Savior, she too was afflicted with the fear, uncertainty, and doubt of an unplanned, unexpected pregnancy.

00:27:45.820 And so if that can affect the mother of our Lord, I believe that it can affect and does affect young women across our state.

00:27:52.520 And I believe for our sisters, for our nieces, for our neighbors, that we must stand up and treat them with respect, dignity, and patience at a time of what is clearly, unequivocally fear, uncertainty, and doubt, and put the full weight of our community behind her as she navigates this unique circumstance.

00:28:12.580 Well said. Next question is two parts, and it takes me just a moment to flesh out. So humor me for a second. So my view of politics, my view of justice, a penal system in terms of dealing with criminals, I believe the Bible speaks in categories of sin, those things that are virtuous, that are good, those things that are immoral, that are sin, but not all sins are crimes.

00:28:35.020 Okay, so coveting is a sin, but coveting is not a crime.

00:28:39.740 That said, applied to the issue of homosexuality. 0.94

00:28:43.140 I believe that homosexuality is unequivocally, in biblical terms, a sin. 0.88

00:28:47.960 That said, in terms of a nation state and how it enforces righteousness and things that please the Lord, 0.93

00:28:54.600 I do not believe that we should have a police system that goes into private homes

00:28:58.260 and is trying to spy on individuals and round them up for things that they're doing that may be sin, is sin,

00:29:04.500 in a private quarter. However, when it comes to public displays, especially formal celebrations

00:29:11.540 and promotions, propaganda, you know, gay pride parades, these kinds of things, drag queen story 0.93

00:29:17.120 hour, I think that that breaches from the category of sin now to what would actually be properly 0.96

00:29:23.340 categorized as a crime. So that idea, number one, do you believe that homosexuality is a sin? And

00:29:30.400 Number two, would you agree that there is a certain level where it actually should, 0.98

00:29:34.980 the state should have sanctions, certain penalties against homosexuality when it becomes public 0.59

00:29:41.000 promotions, indoctrination? Do you agree with what I've just espoused in terms of sin-crime 0.99

00:29:47.600 distinction? Joel, I believe that any sexual intimacy that occurs outside of marriage is

00:29:56.800 sinful, any and all sexual intimacy. And I also believe that as a Christian, marriage is between

00:30:02.680 one man and one woman. I'm not going to apologize for that. That might be something that Republicans

00:30:08.160 have abandoned and said, no, you know, the times are a changing, as Bob Dylan said, and so we have

00:30:13.060 to adapt. We have to be cool. Absolutely not. Our Lord and Savior recognized that no matter what

00:30:19.600 the zeitgeist ended up praising, we had to stand strong. And so where I stand is that any sexual

00:30:27.920 intimacy outside of marriage is a sin. Marriage is between one man and one woman. And a society 0.85

00:30:33.740 that tries to venerate and exemplify sexual degeneracy is not the society that our founding 0.61

00:30:40.400 fathers fought and died for, whether it's drag queen story hour, the objectification and

00:30:45.960 commodification of women via OnlyFans, pornography, whatever it may be. I'm running for Florida

00:30:51.140 governor to stop that, not just to stop women from abusing themselves or worse yet being exploited

00:30:57.380 by these online pimps who traffic their bodies via OnlyFans, but also to stop young men from

00:31:04.320 being drawn into lust, from having their minds rewired by pornography to the point that they're

00:31:09.980 30, 35 years old and they don't even know how to talk to a woman because they've gone down so many

00:31:14.560 online rabbit holes. And so I want to break some news here with you, Joel. I hadn't planned to do

00:31:19.040 this, but allow me to do it, which is that as Florida governor in year one, I will push for

00:31:24.000 the first of its kind OnlyFans sin tax. If you are a so-called OnlyFans creator in Florida,

00:31:31.720 you are going to pay 50% to the state on whatever you so-called earn via that online degeneracy

00:31:39.800 platform. And that money, that money will be used to fund our education system, will be used to fund

00:31:46.000 the crisis pregnancy centers, will be used to fund the first of its kind mental health czar for men

00:31:52.960 in particular. Because men, men have been told for far too long that they are guilty of masculinity,

00:32:00.300 that they are guilty of all of society's ills. I'm not going to stand for that slanderous lie.

00:32:05.660 What I'm going to do is I'm going to end this lie that toxic masculinity is responsible for all the sins and ills of society.

00:32:14.060 If you're an OnlyFans model and you reside in Florida, get ready to pay 50% of your income to the state.

00:32:22.240 It is called a sin tax because it is a sin, number one.

00:32:25.540 But the purpose of a sin tax in economics is to disincentivize and deter a behavior. 0.98

00:32:31.480 And yes, as Florida governor, I don't want young women who could otherwise be mothers 0.98

00:32:36.200 raising families, rearing children. 1.00

00:32:38.260 I don't want them to be selling their bodies to sick men online.

00:32:43.180 And I don't want young, impressionable men who have strayed from Christ, who have strayed

00:32:47.820 from our Lord and Savior to be told and drawn into lust and have their entire brain rewired.

00:32:54.880 We will raise hundreds of millions of dollars of income on the OnlyFans syntax.

00:33:00.380 And if we don't, Joel, if we don't raise that income, you know what it'll mean?

00:33:04.320 It will mean something even greater has materialized for the young women and young men of our state,

00:33:08.860 that the OnlyFans industry and its supporters, and you know who those supporters are, Joel,

00:33:14.160 that its supporters will have been utterly robbed of their ability to rob us,

00:33:20.220 not just of our hard-earned wages, but of our commitment to Christ.

00:33:24.800 Well said.

00:33:26.180 Okay, a couple more questions, then I'll let it go.

00:33:28.400 here's one um and this one i'll show my hand as well and uh not you know it's not a gotcha question

00:33:35.180 so i'll let you know what i'm thinking here but uh what is a heritage american and is vivek i

00:33:40.920 understand it's a separate state in ohio but is vivek ramaswamy would he fit into that category

00:33:46.440 of heritage american for me i'm going to say no to that second part of the question i don't believe

00:33:51.280 that he is a heritage american and in terms of what i view as a heritage american um and this

00:33:57.740 is where, you know, some of my constituents, some of my followers would say, oh man, Joel's a lib.

00:34:03.580 For me, a heritage American would be somebody who is a third generation or more in America and not

00:34:11.100 somebody who just came over, you know, 15 minutes ago. I do believe that heritage American stretches

00:34:16.560 broader than just those of European descent, those who are white. Although I do believe that that is 0.79

00:34:22.120 the bedrock uh that you know the wasp right this this white anglo-saxon protestant uh is the makeup

00:34:29.960 and that that you know of the foundation of america that it should be preserved it should

00:34:34.680 be esteemed it should be protected uh so white heritage americans i think are um vital and that

00:34:41.200 that is the majority but i would include you know others i think of you know clarence thomas i would

00:34:46.760 say that he that he would be within that framework of a heritage American I would say Vivek is not

00:34:52.260 because regardless of where he was personally born he is an anchor baby his parents were not

00:34:59.800 born here so he's first generation actually born in the United States of America he kind of made

00:35:06.600 his name in scamming which you know you're not beating the stereotypes of Indians in that regard 1.00

00:35:13.440 so that's where I'm at I don't think that he is a heritage American I don't appreciate him 0.99

00:35:18.460 every Christmas for two years like it's a tradition now two years in a row lecturing 0.94

00:35:23.800 heritage Americans of what it actually means to be an American as a non-American himself

00:35:29.360 what do you think about that con that concept of heritage American

00:35:33.480 how do you think it applies to someone like Vivek Ramaswamy

00:35:36.780 well for the longest time our friends on the left when we ask them what is a woman

00:35:43.200 They said a woman is someone who identifies as a woman. The paperwork said it, Joel. The ID says it. He, she identifies the way he or she identifies. And I guess that same twisted, perverted, logical fallacy is exactly the kind of slot that one Vivek Ramaswamy is trafficking in after two back-to-back Christmas crash-outs on heritage Americans and American identity.

00:36:06.560 You ask Vivek Ramaswamy what is an American, and he says an American is someone who identifies as American, someone who has filled out the paperwork, who has pledged their allegiance to meritocracy or colorblindness or our constitutional republic, and any other follow-up is met with, you're a bigot.

00:36:24.880 Let me be very clear. Vivek Ramaswamy's parents, neither of whom were citizens of this country when he was born, makes him definitionally, categorically, an anchor baby. But that's not the point. The point is, is that someone who is an American, unequivocally, is someone who loves America.

00:36:43.060 So right off the bat, you cannot love America if you've been here for 15 minutes, if you broke our laws, if you have contempt for your fellow Americans.

00:36:50.260 You just can't.

00:36:51.360 And so I think this idea of heritage American, if you think about it just purely on definition, a heritage American is someone who stretches back the exact number of generations I'm sure, Joel, you and I could debate.

00:37:01.280 I would actually consider foundational Black Americans, of course, as heritage Americans.

00:37:05.840 They've been here much longer than Mr. Ramaswamy has, and they've actually contributed to our country.

00:37:11.460 Secondarily, I think the issue of American identity nowadays is that simply identifying with American values, whatever that means, does not make you an American.

00:37:21.080 That nine-year-old Somalian girl who came here, came to Minneapolis, known nowadays as Mogadishu, and said that we, we, Joel, are living on stolen land.

00:37:30.640 She is technically an American citizen now.

00:37:33.480 Well, how on earth is that possible if she's lecturing us and holding contempt out for her brothers and sisters all across this country?

00:37:40.180 I think what we have to remember is that we are not an economic zone. We are not a free trade area. We are not a Dubai, a Singapore, or a Hong Kong. We are a nation. And a nation is built, yes, around ideals, but it's also built around a people, an identity, a Christian identity, first and foremost.

00:37:59.100 And so the way I think about my state is that my father was born and raised here. My grandfather fought in World War II and then ran cattle out of Okeechobee. His father, my great grandfather, fought in World War I and ran a small hotel on Fort Lauderdale Beach.

00:38:15.380 My mother came here from South America, met my father in the early 1990s, and is a proud American who stands for the pledge just as my father does and recites those words. In fact, growing up, my mom's fluent, of course, in Spanish. That was her first language. I'm fluent in Spanish as well.

00:38:33.640 But my mom, it was not my father's idea. It was her idea that we not speak Spanish at home, that we actually speak English because she recognized that while she was born in South America, she was an American citizen now. She was committed to raising my sister and me in an American household. And that was what we signed up for.

00:38:54.640 And so I'm really proud, of course, my father's side of the family, but also my mother's side of the family, many of whom still live in South America, I get to visit them every year or so, because my mother recognized that when she was moving here, that she was now leaving behind not just her nationality, her citizenship in South America, but her identity, her language, to the point where she was going to raise my sister and me exclusively on English.

00:39:20.740 Now, of course, my extended family speaks Spanish. I speak Spanish with them when I go down and visit. But I think that this idea of people like Vivek, people coming to our country, whether it's H-1Bs or Afghan nationals or whomever, especially illegals, and lecturing us about our way of life and how our country has gone wrong, that is completely unacceptable.

00:39:40.000 I'm running for Florida governor for the very simple reason that it's very difficult to be an American in America today. 1.00

00:39:46.240 Very, very easy to be an illegal, very easy to be an Afghan national to get your food stamps, your Obama phone, your EBT, your welfare. 0.83

00:39:53.180 But if you're an American citizen, you fall on hard times.

00:39:55.860 The state lectures you and Ben Shapiro comes out of the bushes and says, young white men, pull yourself up from the bootstraps.

00:40:03.000 I believe in individual accountability, responsibility and agency.

00:40:05.860 But I also believe that the state and our communities have a role in not just asking

00:40:10.200 our citizens to pull themselves up by the bootstraps, but also to extend a hand and

00:40:14.860 pull them up. And I'll tell you, Joel, that is not communism. That is Christianity. And that's

00:40:19.660 the way that I will lead as Florida governor. Well said. Whites, should they remain a majority

00:40:26.480 here in these United States? And what happens in the moment that whites become a minority? 0.88

00:40:31.580 well the very simple way to think about it is if you were to kill every single white person in 0.99

00:40:36.480 america and replace them with an indian national from calcutta would it still be america and of 0.98

00:40:41.140 course the answer is absolutely not i think that it's important to recognize that our founding

00:40:46.780 fathers were white they were christian and they were men and any attempt whether it's via a public

00:40:52.300 school history teacher to distort that truth or a google ai chatbot when you ask them to generate

00:40:57.140 an image of our founding fathers, and it looks like the set of a Migos music video in Atlanta,

00:41:02.880 but that is not exactly accurate, but it's also insulting. It's insulting to our country.

00:41:08.920 What I respect about foundational Black Americans, and I might disagree with them on a lot, 1.00

00:41:13.540 especially on the issue of reparations, but that's okay. You're not going to agree with 1.00

00:41:17.000 everyone on everything, is that they don't pretend that our country was anything other

00:41:22.420 than a country that founding fathers who were white Christian men ended up starting.

00:41:27.020 Now, they are part of our history. They are part of our story. But at the end of the day, I think that the foundational stock of America historically has been white. And that in any country, whether it's China or Brazil or, of course, India, that if you eliminated the founding stock from being the majority of the country, if you said, well, the Han Chinese ceased to live in China, it wouldn't be China.

00:41:49.660 If you said that Indians ceased to live in India, it wouldn't be India. And of course, 0.54

00:41:55.440 if white Christians ceased to make up the majority of America, you could hardly call it America 0.89

00:42:00.660 anymore. I think the bigger point, though, is how do we create an economy that actually

00:42:05.220 separates American citizens who have been treated like second-class citizens for far too long 1.00

00:42:10.280 from the rest of this third-world foreign labor that comes into our schools, takes our jobs, 1.00

00:42:15.440 buys our homes and replaces us and denies us our very existence in our own country. 1.00

00:42:22.160 That's what the bigger fight here is about. And that's exactly why I'm running for Florida

00:42:25.420 governor. Well said. All right. I'm going to put you on the spot here. I'm going to ask you one

00:42:29.520 more question and then I'm going to start to push back a little bit and see what your explanation

00:42:35.820 is because we have people who, you know, they want to know they're open. Debate is good, Joel.

00:42:41.140 Yeah, it is. It is. We have, I think, the general sentiment of guys who follow us, and myself included, this would be a description of me personally, is I want to believe, help my unbelief, I want to believe that there is someone who actually cares about Americans, somebody who actually cares about white people and is not going to discriminate against us.

00:43:05.460 somebody who's actually going to be America first and not Israel first, somebody who's going to

00:43:09.560 do things that secure a future for me, my family, my children. And yet, you know this,

00:43:17.980 we all know this, we have been disappointed so many times. And so it merits asking so that our

00:43:25.280 listeners can hear it from you and make up their own minds whether or not they believe you. All you

00:43:30.960 can do is give an answer, and then it's up to them to exercise discernment and decide whether or not

00:43:35.820 you're telling the truth. So I'm going to ask a couple questions about your transition, because

00:43:40.540 we have to admit that it seems as though some of these changes in perspective and emphases and

00:43:46.500 priorities are rather recent. And so I'm going to ask that, but first, this I did not prep you for,

00:43:53.540 I did not tell you it was coming, but I'm just curious.

00:43:59.460 Nicholas J. Fuentes, if he endorsed you, how would you respond?

00:44:06.820 Would you respond?

00:44:07.820 Would you view that as a liability or would you be grateful for his support?

00:44:13.640 What do you think?

00:44:16.660 Well, Joel, I am grateful for anyone in the country exercising their First Amendment rights.

00:44:23.540 I think if anyone has any disagreement with anything, anyone, including one Nicholas J. Fuentes says, they're welcome to air that disagreements publicly.

00:44:31.740 This attempt to cancel, censor or tone police American citizens, we rejected it from the left and I'll equally reject it from the right.

00:44:40.440 To be very honest with you, I'm not in the business of soliciting endorsements from anyone who does not live in the state of Florida.

00:44:47.360 That would apply to quite literally every single person outside of the state.

00:44:51.120 I think that my opponent, Byron Donalds, has focused a lot of his time soliciting endorsements from the likes of Ted Cruz and Chip Roy and Dan Crenshaw and Mike Johnson and wants to ram that down their throats of Florida voters and say, you know what? Ted Cruz got back from Cancun and now wants you to vote for me.

00:45:08.920 I recognize that the best endorsement I can get is from voters themselves. So I'm going to travel

00:45:14.720 the state. I'm going to meet with voters face to face. They deserve to ask me tough questions,

00:45:19.560 as I'm sure you will hear shortly. And they deserve to see how I'm going to respond. Look,

00:45:24.040 the idea that any politician should be blindly trusted after we've gotten burned these last

00:45:29.000 couple of years, that applies to me too. And so I don't want anyone to blindly trust me. I don't

00:45:35.000 know that I can earn anyone's trust over a 30-minute conversation. I think that every voter

00:45:39.980 has to, yes, take me and hear what I say and watch my interview with you or with Tucker or whomever,

00:45:45.560 and then follow me very closely over the next seven to eight months. And when the media pushes

00:45:49.120 me, when I get pushed back or tone policed or my policies might distance myself or push back from

00:45:56.000 a donor, how do I respond when a donor rips up a $100,000 check because I refuse to disavow a

00:46:03.080 fellow American? How do I respond in that moment? Well, we know how the other people respond.

00:46:07.580 How will I respond? I can't predict how I'm going to respond. All I can do is watch very closely

00:46:12.500 my every single move. If I have the opportunity to earn your trust and earn your vote, I'll be

00:46:17.380 grateful. And if I don't, it'll be no hard feelings. Yep. Okay. Barry Weiss. All right.

00:46:23.440 So now we're getting to you changing your views. And I think that's one of the main complaints

00:46:30.480 that i've seen from people or at least you know if not a complaint at least a uh i think a genuine

00:46:36.240 fair concern is all right he's he's parroting the right talking points his rhetoric is right

00:46:44.320 what he's campaigning on uh that's right but how do we trust him because it seems as though

00:46:50.720 it's a recent change so barry weiss how do we feel how do we feel about that

00:47:00.480 How do I feel about Barry Weiss is a really interesting one. So I cold called, cold email, technically, Barry Weiss in April of 2023. I was writing a high school debate article about how high school debate had gone woke, where white students were told that they needed to apologize to black students before the round.

00:47:16.720 They were forced to share evidence with black students, but black students didn't have to in the name of equity or a young student was disqualified from the Stanford tournament because that student used the word illegal immigrant as opposed to undocumented migrant.

00:47:31.260 And so I pitched that to Barry Weiss. I'm grateful that the free press published it. But Barry Weiss and I have rarely agree on anything politically, including and especially the issue of Israel.

00:47:40.080 I've never been paid by Barry Weiss or worked for her. I wrote some op-eds for her. I think the bigger question, though, for me is how my views on Israel have changed.

00:47:49.240 And look, I'll be the first person to say, heck, yeah, they've changed. After October 7th, of course, like many Americans, I was repulsed to see this attack on innocent life, not just Israelis, but also foreigners, Americans, Cambodians, Laos, Thai, who just happened to be at the country at the time, either living or working.

00:48:05.880 And so I was unequivocally disgusted by what happened on October 7th. And then over the coming, the subsequent years, I got, I guess it was one of those gradually then suddenly moments, you know, gradually seeing the news feed through and, you know, skeptically the very left-wing people who had lied to us for so long were saying this was, this was war crime, this was genocide, this was famine.

00:48:28.160 But what really did it for me, Joel, was the bombing of the Holy Family Catholic Church in Gaza City. That was really the wake up moment. And I got to say, you know, I take responsibility because that was really selfish of me to say, look, I'm not going to care about this issue until it's Christians who are being slaughtered. And that was quite literally the truth. I didn't really hone in on the issue until my own people had been the victims of this aggression of these war crimes.

00:48:52.660 And so my views on Israel have changed a lot. I think that we should welcome that evolution in people. But I've been a person who's, for better or worse, been a registered Republican since I was in high school. Not that that means anything nowadays.

00:49:06.120 But yeah, I'll be the first to admit that my views on Israel have changed a ton to the point now where the Israeli media has called me a threat or Benjamin Netanyahu was meeting with my political opponent, Jay Collins, who will be announcing later this afternoon.

00:49:19.200 He's now challenging me for governor. And Miriam Adelson, of course, the darling of Tel Aviv, has said that she is raising a war chest against me.

00:49:26.980 And so I am someone who recognizes that when the facts change, I will change with them. And I was wrong on Israel before. And I now understand where that issue now stands today.

00:49:38.000 Yeah. Okay. Well said. The Adelsons, even here in our great state of Texas, they continue to pose a massive problem trying to set up in the DFW area a casino that would attract like a magnet the worst of the worst.

00:49:57.200 It would draw all kinds of things, aside from gambling and degeneracy in that regard, but also drug trafficking.

00:50:06.460 It would just further impoverish people in that area.

00:50:10.540 And there are a lot of good guys on the ground, local city council and guys like that, that we know, that we appreciate, who have been fighting against them.

00:50:18.860 But it seems like everywhere the Adelsons go, everything that they give their money to, if you vote for the opposite,

00:50:25.500 it, you'll probably be making a good decision. All right, so I'm going to leave it there. We're

00:50:31.340 going to go to Super Chats here in a moment. But first, I want to give Wesley and Antonio,

00:50:35.660 my co-host, a moment because I took most of the time here because I had a series of questions

00:50:41.280 that I wanted to ask. And I appreciate your answers. But Wesley and Antonio, do you have

00:50:45.100 anything for James? Yeah, James, thanks for coming on. And I just wanted to point out for

00:50:49.820 the listener, I've worked in politics and worked on campaigns. And something politicians do that

00:50:54.680 you don't do is they'll promise something that's not whatsoever in their purview to accomplish.

00:50:59.620 I think of Zoran Mamdani who promised free child care in New York City. Well, the state legislature

00:51:04.600 sets the budget. So he can promise that all he wants and people can vote for him on the premise

00:51:10.080 of that promise. But as we're seeing right now, there's no take backs. There's going to be no way

00:51:14.460 he's going to be able to accomplish free child care for everyone in New York City who wants it.

00:51:20.160 But I want to point out the difference when you talked about the H-1B visa program. H-1B visas

00:51:24.380 is a federal issue you if you were elected governor of florida you wouldn't have the opportunity to

00:51:29.020 change federal work structures like that but you did say here's what i can do this is an issue

00:51:34.280 it's outside of my purview but let's get creative and what i can do is address these state contracts

00:51:39.980 and these companies that have what bring in these workers they want the money that comes from these

00:51:45.280 contracts and here's what i can do if i was given given that uh that authority given that power to

00:51:52.000 do so. So I just wanted to point that out to the listener. Much of what James is saying here,

00:51:55.800 he's backing it up by saying, and I would actually have the authority to do this as governor.

00:52:00.060 I'm not the legislator. I can't necessarily control what it is that they put on my desk,

00:52:04.360 but this I can control. This I can do something about. Here's where I can make a difference there.

00:52:08.820 And so I just wanted to commend you for that. Thank you, Wes. I appreciate it. And I think

00:52:14.800 that's what we want, right, from our elected officials, those seeking higher offices. Okay,

00:52:18.640 you're telling us the what, tell us the how for once, tell us the how, right? And I've actually

00:52:24.060 studied these issues over the last couple of months. I'm reminded of the Supreme Court

00:52:27.060 case, which was utterly unanimous in 1976, Takanis v. Bika, which found that states do

00:52:32.420 have the authority and the compelling state interest to regulate immigration around employment

00:52:38.200 fines. And so what California tried to do, believe it or not, in the mid-1970s, you can imagine that

00:52:42.840 California tried to stand up to illegal labor, is that they passed a law to fine employers 0.75

00:52:48.340 for hiring illegals. And the Supreme Court found in this unanimous decision that states do have 0.83

00:52:54.620 sweeping authority to pass laws that while affect federal immigration law per view via workers,

00:53:03.940 they can and do have a compelling and legal interest to enforce state law around federal

00:53:09.400 employment visas. And so I look forward to using this constitutional authority. And at the end of

00:53:14.260 the day, I think what you said it best, and I'm going to use that line if you don't mind, Wesley,

00:53:17.240 which is let's get creative, right? I'm not going to sit here and say, that's not my problem

00:53:21.760 because federalism, because the federal government, no, no, no, no. The state governments created the

00:53:27.620 federal government. The 10th Amendment is the most underrated of the Bill of Rights because

00:53:32.500 what it says is, is that authority that is not explicitly enumerated to the feds is reserved

00:53:38.200 for the states and her people. And I am going to, I know that Clavicular likes to looks max.

00:53:42.740 There's a guy on my team called Zach who likes to polo max. I am going to states rights max. I am going to use every single tool in my toolbox to protect our workers and to assert our sovereignty over the federal government. I don't care what the D.C. bureaucrats who are Republicans who are trying to ram down our throats want us to do. And I also understand that there's a prospect that one Gavin Newsom could be president in 2028. And I sure as heck don't want Gavin and his team of bandits to try to ram stuff down our throats.

00:54:11.640 And so I recognize that what we're going to do is going to be creative. In many respects, it's going to be unprecedented. It's going to, in many respects, also challenge existing Supreme Court precedent around things like abortion, around things like immigration law in our public schools.

00:54:26.820 And what I say is one of the greatest blessings that President Trump bequeathed us with was a conservative Supreme Court. We'll see the ACLU. We'll see CARE. We'll see all you guys in federal court. And guess what? We'll appeal it all the way to the Supreme Court, where we will win either 6-3 or 5-4, depending on how she is feeling that day. And I think we know who we're talking about.

00:54:49.820 But at the end of the day, we've got to be very honest that our job is to not say we're going to do things.

00:54:56.040 It is to actually do things.

00:54:57.920 It's as if you told, you know, I've told someone on my team, for example, every day, I said, can we go get some pizza?

00:55:02.600 And, you know, the pizza place we were going to go to was closed, but then he didn't stop him.

00:55:06.400 He just went over to another pizza place and didn't make the excuse that, oh, well, this pizza place closed early so we couldn't get pizza.

00:55:11.920 No, the job, the task was to get pizza.

00:55:15.660 Do not come back here unless there is pizza for this group. And so my job is to make Florida

00:55:22.960 great. It is not to make excuses. And I'm always going to stand by that edict.

00:55:27.100 Well said. Antonio.

00:55:28.520 Yep. James, thanks for coming on. Just one question for me, I think, before we go to

00:55:33.080 Super Chats. I think our listeners would appreciate your articulation of the, you could say, the GOP

00:55:38.900 landscape in Florida specifically, but perhaps the GOP landscape nationally as you think about

00:55:44.560 MAGA and I think what your platform represents, which is a more sort of America first sort of

00:55:50.500 position with respect to some of the policy descriptions around sort of corporate interests

00:55:54.580 and immigration, those sorts of things. Yeah. What do you make of it? You know, especially,

00:56:00.040 I think, as you consider sort of MAGA and where MAGA will go as the GOP tries to find an identity

00:56:05.600 outside of Trump. I mean, thinking beyond the elections in 2026. Yeah. So if you could give

00:56:11.440 us a rundown of that, I think we'd appreciate it. So I think the debate is framed often online as

00:56:16.880 MAGA versus America first. Now, I think we all know what those terms mean and your viewers do,

00:56:21.860 but for the average person sitting at home, they don't know what MAGA means or America first,

00:56:25.780 and they probably in many respects support both. I think the issue is that our party now has been

00:56:31.420 torn asunder and there's two real camps to it. There is what we call economic capitalism and

00:56:38.080 citizenship capitalism. If your goal of capitalism is to make the economy, which is to say GDP,

00:56:44.380 the stock market, nominal GNP, all of that, if your goal is to elevate that as your North Star,

00:56:52.100 that is economic capitalism. That is effectively what we've had for 25 years now, from George Bush

00:56:57.180 to Mitt Romney, even to Barack Obama. That is economic capitalism. What I am fighting for as

00:57:04.020 Florida governor is citizenship capitalism, an economy that is unapologetically free market,

00:57:08.860 but one that advances the free market for the benefit, the exclusive benefit of citizens.

00:57:15.240 And so my central question around economic policymaking is this, does this economic policy

00:57:21.400 benefit, which is to say, help young men and women get married and buy a home? In 1960,

00:57:29.660 half. Half of 30-year-old men were married, which is to say 30-year-old women were married.

00:57:35.720 Half of 30-year-old men were married and owned their home. Today, less than 15% of 30-year-old

00:57:43.360 men are married and owned their home. And the reason why is because, among other reasons,

00:57:48.780 our economic system has lost sight of what we do to measure economic prosperity. If we're going to

00:57:55.200 measure economic prosperity by how much scam Altman is going to be investing in AI data center,

00:57:59.660 that is the wrong way to measure it. If we're going to measure it on stock prices or GDP or

00:58:04.780 whatever economic statistic will flash on the Bloomberg terminal on Tuesday morning,

00:58:08.760 that will be the wrong way to measure it. I think we think about economic policymaking

00:58:12.980 around that very question. Does this policy help young people get married and buy a home?

00:58:18.540 So for example, an AI data center fails that test for two reasons, because it actually raises

00:58:22.740 electric bills and makes homeownership less likely on the margins. And also it doesn't create

00:58:27.800 real local great paying jobs, it brings in 40 or 50 highly specialized workers, oftentimes from

00:58:33.400 overseas or out of state to take those jobs. And so to the very question of whether or not we should

00:58:38.980 vote up or down in an AI data center, if you view it through the lens of does it help young people

00:58:43.880 get married and buy a home, it by definition fails on both tests. And so I think the real

00:58:49.660 division, the dichotomy of the Republican Party today is that between economic capitalism and

00:58:54.920 citizenship capitalism, if we take Pat Buchanan's view of the economy, which is, yeah, capitalism,

00:59:00.660 whatever, but let's use that as a vehicle to advance liberty, prosperity, and dignity for

00:59:07.120 American citizens, that is the kind of vision that I support. And that's why I'm running for

00:59:12.120 Florida governor, because I'll tell you, Republicans and Democrats have been disaffected and disturbed

00:59:16.960 by the uniparty establishment for too long. They're sick and tired of being lectured about

00:59:20.700 their grocery bills. And inflation used to be five, and now it's only three. You're only getting

00:59:25.800 screwed over by 3% a year in rising prices as opposed to five. They're told that if they

00:59:30.520 complain about the fact that they don't have a job, that the stock market, they're reminded

00:59:33.660 that the stock market has made a new all-time higher, that GDP is now at 4.3%. Well, guess

00:59:38.700 what? Folks in Jacksonville, Pensacola, Pahokia, where I grew up in Broward County, we don't eat

00:59:43.200 GDP for dinner. The stock market isn't going to pay our electric bills, and we are sick and tired

00:59:48.020 of choosing between rent and prescription drugs. We need an America first candidate who's going to

00:59:53.320 fight, yes, for Republicans, but also for Democrats, Antonio, because at the end of the day, there is

00:59:57.920 not a gas price for Republicans and a gas price for Democrats. There is not a mortgage rate for

01:00:03.160 those who voted for Barack Hussein Obama and a mortgage rate for those who voted for President

01:00:08.220 Trump. There is a mortgage rate for all Americans, a gas price for all Floridians. I am running

01:00:13.680 because honestly, I understand a lot of Democrats are frustrated, and they're not just frustrated

01:00:18.640 with the Republican Party, they're frustrated with the Democrat Party. And that's why I've

01:00:22.500 been honored to have countless voters already across the state change their party affiliation

01:00:28.080 from independent to Republican or Democrat to Republican, because to vote for me and our vision

01:00:34.640 on August 18th in the closed primary, you have to be registered as a Republican. The truth is,

01:00:39.800 the next governor of Florida is going to be a Republican. Donald Trump won this state by 13

01:00:45.180 points. Ron DeSantis before him for governor run by ran by a one by 20 points. The next governor

01:00:51.360 of Florida, without a doubt, is going to be a Republican. And so if you're waiting to vote

01:00:56.380 until November, you're allowing the system to disenfranchise you because your vote will not

01:01:01.520 count. The only vote that matters here in Florida is on August 18th, 2026. It is James Fishback

01:01:08.440 versus Byron Donalds. It is America first versus America last. It is cattle and citrus versus AI

01:01:15.920 data centers. The great replacement, free speech, and the dignity of our neighbors is on the ballot.

01:01:22.380 I would be honored to earn your vote on August 18th. You just have to make sure you are registered

01:01:27.060 as a Republican, and you can do that online right now for free. James Fishback, last and final

01:01:33.200 question are you ready right now to pledge your undying allegiance and give an unapologetic

01:01:38.540 endorsement of this book the hyphenated heresy judeo-christianity i need to hear i'm looking

01:01:44.440 i am looking forward to reading it i've already ordered my copy i'm looking forward to reading

01:01:49.020 it when i stop going from holiday and express to holiday and express on the campaign trail and

01:01:53.360 eating mcdonald's and waffle house but i look forward to reading it i think it's a really

01:01:57.420 important book that challenges the status quo in a way that it needs to be i want to be very clear

01:02:02.660 this country was built on Christian values, not Judeo-Christian values. None of our founding

01:02:07.540 fathers were Jewish. And that is not a dis, that is not disrespect for my Jewish friends anywhere

01:02:13.380 in Florida. It is just a fact. And so to use a line that is often trafficked by one Benjamin

01:02:19.240 Shapiro, facts don't care about your feelings. It is a fact that our country was built by Christian 0.99

01:02:26.440 men. And I'm sick and tired of the history books, the teachers unions, and including and especially 1.00

01:02:31.820 the political commentators on the right trying to distort that history. It was wrong. It was

01:02:37.640 wrong for Democrats to distort history with the 1619 Project. And it is equally as wrong for

01:02:43.280 Republicans to ram the Judeo-Christian lie down our throats. I have respect for my Jewish friends.

01:02:49.840 I have respect for their faith and their religion. But at the end of the day, we were built as a

01:02:54.300 Christian country. Our First Amendment protects the rights of everyone to worship in their own

01:03:00.360 individual way. But I'm an unapologetic Christian. I believe that Christ is king. My life verse is

01:03:06.480 Luke 646. Why do you call me Lord, Lord, and not do as I say? I think that I as a Christian and

01:03:12.160 many others have struggled with this idea that yes, we believe in a Christian God, but we often

01:03:16.660 stray from those precepts, from those teachings, from those commandments. And I'm an imperfect man.

01:03:21.740 I'll be the first to acknowledge that. I'm often asked, how can you revive Christian faith across

01:03:27.080 your state. I don't know that we can pass a law or pass additional funding to do that. But my

01:03:31.600 commitment is what I've been doing for the last two years. I'll do for the next four and hopefully

01:03:35.480 for reelection before after that. You will see me and my wife and my kids every single Sunday in

01:03:42.200 the Christian pews professing that Jesus Christ is Lord. Because if you want to be a Christian

01:03:48.100 nation again, you need our leaders to be unapologetically Christian in every single 0.95

01:03:53.900 thing that they do amen all right um james thanks for your time we appreciate it we're going to go

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01:06:04.440 all right let's go ahead and get the super chats up on the screen so that we can see them

01:06:10.680 and we will begin with the very first one here it is uh antonio will you take that dapper dan

01:06:16.040 yep dapper dan 1993 sent ten dollars and um is asking any thoughts pertaining to the fact that

01:06:22.780 the ICE agent in Minneapolis shot twice

01:06:24.920 from the side of the car when he wasn't

01:06:26.760 in danger. I voted for them to deport 0.97

01:06:28.620 illegals not to shoot white people. 0.99

01:06:30.880 I think there's a question that came in before our 0.95

01:06:32.760 disclaimer around

01:06:34.660 We'll have to save that for another time.

01:06:36.880 Appreciate you, Dapper Dan. We'll get

01:06:38.240 to it another time. Let's keep going.

01:06:40.520 Okay, so we'll jump to the next one. Chris Tisking

01:06:42.580 12256 sent $10

01:06:44.680 and says, this channel has been banger

01:06:46.800 after banger ever since it started.

01:06:48.640 I'm skeptical of Fishback, but he's really

01:06:50.660 winning me over. You guys are all

01:06:52.600 killing it appreciate your encouragement all right next uh this dude rocks sent five dollars

01:06:59.260 fishback uh dressed james uh fishback what would you say the center right and farther right wings

01:07:05.220 great greatest political blind spots are the pendulum won't stay in our corner forever

01:07:11.300 again james this is for you i'll just read it one more time what would you say the center

01:07:16.100 right and farther right wings greatest political blind spots are

01:07:19.160 it's probably that as long as it's not illegal immigration is good and you know this idea that

01:07:32.980 well we're going to build the wall but it's going to have a big beautiful door or that as my

01:07:36.940 opponent byron donald said last year that we want anyone and from anywhere to come here so long as

01:07:42.640 they're going to contribute no absolutely not we don't the mass invasion of our country whether

01:07:46.360 it's illegal or legal, which is to say blessed by the Uniparty in DC, that is wrong. And so what I

01:07:52.760 want to see from more and more from my party and the platform I'm running on is that no, the mass

01:07:56.820 invasion is wrong. The Haitians in Springfield were actually here legally. They were given

01:08:01.280 temporary protected status in 2010 after the devastating earthquake in Port-au-Prince. 1.00

01:08:05.160 The Afghan sicko who shot two National Guards members right before Thanksgiving last year 1.00

01:08:10.580 was here legally. And I don't need to remind anybody that the 9-11 hijackers were also 1.00

01:08:15.660 here in our country legally. And so I believe that one, we were not a nation of immigrants.

01:08:21.340 I believe that immigrants have played a historic role in our country, historical role as well.

01:08:26.160 But at the end of the day, what worked in the 1970s and 80s does not work today because in

01:08:31.300 large part, the legal immigrants who came to our country via Ellis Island, they weren't handed an

01:08:35.880 Obama phone, EBT or Snapchat. They were actually given the opportunity to earn, to pull themselves

01:08:42.620 up and they actually assimilated. The third world migrants coming here today, whether they are given 1.00

01:08:47.800 legal status or not, they refuse to assimilate. They refuse to contribute. They act as if they're 1.00

01:08:53.880 entitled to everything. But in all honesty, they give nothing in return. Well said. Wes,

01:09:00.320 can you take the next one? All right. We've got a super chat from Jonathan Perez. He said,

01:09:04.540 thanks to the NXR guys for taking an interest in our Florida governor race. The content has

01:09:08.800 been fire lately. James, when will you be in Naples? I will be in Naples next month. So we

01:09:16.260 have a full 67 tour, 67 County tour set up, but I think you guys can appreciate with security and

01:09:23.040 with literally Israel calling me a threat in their own media. I want to be cognizant of not giving

01:09:27.800 people too much heads up. So we're announcing all events, but two to three days beforehand,

01:09:32.000 I'm in St. Augustine today. So if you're in St. Augustine, go to my X or my Instagram,

01:09:36.800 and you can see exactly where we're going to be. We're going to be at the Applebee's,

01:09:39.760 no $3 margaritas for Joel Webin though. And we will be there and I'll be taking questions

01:09:44.600 directly from voters. I don't do the typical stump speech. I talk for four or five minutes

01:09:48.540 and then I just take questions from anybody and everybody. I will not leave any of our venues

01:09:53.260 until I've answered every single question. Floridians deserve a governor they can see,

01:09:58.120 talk to, and even debate with. And that's why I'm running. Great. All right. Next one comes

01:10:02.920 from Caleb and he says, thank you, Mr. Fishback and Mr. Webin and co for doing this. What does

01:10:09.420 James make of his background working in the Jewish finance scene and their pro-Israel allies

01:10:17.060 enclave in Florida? Are they opponents? James, what do you think? I think anyone who fuels the

01:10:25.680 great replacement of American workers, who financializes our economy, who lets single 0.82

01:10:30.180 family homes get sold and hoarded by Blackstone or Blackrod. I think anyone of any background 0.86

01:10:36.040 is an opponent to making America great again and putting America first. And so I am running to

01:10:41.020 stand up for every single Floridian, wherever you are, wherever you live, however you pray.

01:10:45.600 I'm an unapologetic Christian. I hope you'll come to Christ, but I'm running for governor so I can

01:10:49.960 make your life a little bit easier and a lot more affordable. And that starts with standing up to a

01:10:54.280 financial industry that for far too long has commodified and financialized every single

01:10:59.400 aspect of our life. We have to get back to basics. And honestly, our future is not in the future.

01:11:06.220 Our future is in the past. We have done this before. We have a blueprint to help young men

01:11:10.940 get ahead. We have a blueprint to help a family raise their four kids on a single income. We have

01:11:16.980 a blueprint to preserve our identity and ensure that America is for Americans. And so I don't 0.98

01:11:23.160 want to look to Singapore, Dubai, or Hong Kong. I want to look to our own state, our own country,

01:11:29.900 our own past. Because if we did it before, we can do it again.

01:11:34.440 Well said. Next one is from Hear Me Roar. And it's a picture of a woman. So it's not my favorite,

01:11:40.120 but we'll go ahead and read it anyways. They said, why just young married couples? What about

01:11:45.900 single parents, low income, disabilities, veteran? Yeah. The username and that's a great question

01:11:51.880 checking out, but go ahead. That is a really, it's a really good question. And the reason why

01:11:56.060 we're going to do young married couples, to be clear, I want to make sure housing is affordable

01:11:59.240 for everyone. If you're struggling with a disability, if you're a former veteran,

01:12:03.540 whatever the case may be, I want to make sure that you have the ability to not just buy your home,

01:12:08.980 but to afford to stay and live and exist in your home. And so what I'll say is that our Rise and

01:12:17.580 SHINE program is to help young married couples for the very simple reason that I think marriage

01:12:22.360 is in crisis in this country. If you show me the incentive, I'll show you the outcome. That's a

01:12:27.420 principle from economics that applies to everyday life. There is every incentive for young people

01:12:32.380 not to get married as opposed to get married. Our welfare system, our social safety net,

01:12:37.720 unemployment assurance, SNAP, EBT, the entire economic apparatus is structured in a way that

01:12:43.440 disincentivizes marriage because it pays you more to be single as opposed to be in a God-fearing

01:12:49.320 covenant. And so I want to tip the scales the other way. I want to create an economic system

01:12:53.220 that actually incentivizes marriage. And I want to help, yes, young women, but also I got to sit

01:12:58.000 some of these young men down and say, guys, get real, stop sleeping around, close out your OnlyFans

01:13:03.500 account, put down the blunt, go back to church, rediscover Christ. That is the way we're going

01:13:08.960 to revive our identity as Floridians. And if that means creating a specific economic incentive

01:13:14.500 that tells young men and young women that it's time to settle down, quit playing games, put down

01:13:19.600 the nonsense and actually get real about your relationship, then there is a $10,000 down payment

01:13:25.900 assistance check with your name on it. But I'm not going to create an economic system that continues

01:13:30.580 to celebrate, exemplify and incentivize this singlehood situation ship sleeping around.

01:13:37.800 no. What made Florida great was the covenant and the governance of marriage. And we have to get

01:13:43.380 back to that. And Rise and Shine is one of many programs that will help people afford a home.

01:13:48.300 But this program in particular is exclusively for young married couples. 0.99

01:13:53.400 Amen. That's good. That's part of the problem with not just Florida or a singular state, 1.00

01:13:59.020 but just with our country as a whole, is that we're constantly degrading everything down to

01:14:04.880 the lowest common denominator. And so essentially what we've done is we've made the footnote the

01:14:10.420 headline. We've made the exception the norm, and we continue to subsidize and favor and promote

01:14:17.060 and handhold all of the most difficult situations to the utter neglect of God's ideal. And then we

01:14:26.860 wonder why nobody's striving for the ideal. So none of this is a lack of compassion. If I can

01:14:32.640 just add on to what James is saying. It's not that we don't care for single moms. It's not that we

01:14:37.780 don't care for the disenfranchised and for those who are down on their luck and having a hard time.

01:14:42.860 But what we're saying is that for decades now, that's really all of who we've cared for as a

01:14:49.320 nation. All of our attention, all of our resources, all of our emphasis has gone towards a group of

01:14:56.420 individuals who in some cases were really done unjustly. They really were mistreated. They really

01:15:06.480 are victims. And in other cases, there's tons of people who are simply scamming the system or

01:15:12.860 they're in a difficult situation. And although we're sympathetic and compassionate, it is

01:15:18.160 ultimately their responsibility for why they're there. Nobody did it to them. They did it to

01:15:23.160 themselves. Meanwhile, the one group of people that are, you know, like the meme, you know,

01:15:27.700 that are like drowning on the bottom of the pool, you know, just a skeleton, long forgotten and

01:15:32.900 neglected, are the people who are trying to follow the Word of God and do things the way that the

01:15:38.920 Bible tells us. And for once, it would be nice to give a little bit of focus to them. The next

01:15:44.540 question comes from Commander Tong. He said, love or she, I don't know if it's, I don't know,

01:15:51.040 This individual said, I love the OnlyFans syntax. How do you mobilize the boomers to vote for you? It's mega frustrating to me that the boomers don't seem to care about young people's concerns. What do you think, James?

01:16:08.280 you know I get that line a lot that the boomers don't care I think that I don't think it's true 0.99

01:16:14.780 I think that we have to frame it we have to message it in a way that one shows that they're 0.89

01:16:22.280 actually on the hook because if young people don't get jobs can't buy a home they're going

01:16:26.680 to continue to be dependent on not just taxpayers but family members who are older and that creates

01:16:33.100 a real dependency trap, both financially and culturally. And so how do you win the boomers?

01:16:38.240 How do you win anybody? Is you just show up. And that's what I'm doing. That's why I've got 0.98

01:16:42.140 67 counties on the map for the next three months. That's why I'm living out of a

01:16:47.960 Holiday Inn Express eating at Waffle House and McDonald's, because I've got to meet every single

01:16:52.900 voter I can, get this message to them, and recognize that they may not agree with me at

01:16:57.600 first. They may be apprehensive at first, but my goal is to quite honestly not take no for an answer

01:17:02.520 and make sure that we can get this message directly to them. Because I think our message

01:17:06.060 resonates with everyone. The issue, especially of eliminating property tax, look, if you're 60,

01:17:11.320 65, 70 years old, you've already bought your home. You're not renting it from the government.

01:17:15.640 And so I'm running for governor to eliminate property taxes, yes, for our seniors who deserve

01:17:20.200 to be able to retire with dignity, but also for our young couples, because it's not just enough

01:17:25.040 to be able to get that down payment, to buy that home and to move in. You also have to have a path

01:17:29.980 to be able to continue to afford that home and to not get evicted. And so when you had a $7,000,

01:17:35.200 $10,000 property tax bill due every single year for as far as the eye can see, that challenges

01:17:42.620 your ability to stay in that home, to stay married, and to keep raising your kids. And so I'm

01:17:48.460 eliminating property taxes for every single Florida resident because it helps our seniors

01:17:52.340 retire with dignity and it helps our young people start off on the right track. Well said. Well said.

01:17:58.100 The next one comes from username geogasserr1b, and they say, Russia facilitates Christian persecuted migrants.

01:18:06.300 To this day, there are a lot of European stock families in Africa and South America.

01:18:10.540 I would like to know if Fishback would implement something similar.

01:18:17.220 Could you repeat it again? Sorry.

01:18:18.800 Yep. It's admittedly not very clear.

01:18:21.180 They're saying, so Russia facilitates Christian persecuted migrants.

01:18:25.340 I mean, I think they mean to say emigrates or allow refugees, right. And so they say to this

01:18:31.800 day, there are a lot of European stock families in Africa and South America. I would like to know

01:18:36.160 if Fishback would implement or perhaps even just support something similar in the United States

01:18:41.600 and Florida specifically. I think the persecution of any people across the world is vile, but I

01:18:49.540 think the most virulent persecution that is the most tolerated by the UN establishment is that

01:18:54.180 of white Christians, especially in places like South Africa. And so I pray for my brothers and

01:18:59.320 sisters in Christ who are being persecuted wherever they are in the world. My job as Florida

01:19:03.580 governor, to be completely honest, is I don't have authority over facilitating immigration.

01:19:07.300 Quite honestly, if I did, I'm not bringing anybody else in because the people who have a right to

01:19:11.960 exist are the people right here in Florida, the third generation citrus farmers that I was meeting

01:19:16.460 with in Frostproof just two weeks ago, the cattle ranchers in Okeechobee, the anglers in Southwest

01:19:22.420 west florida and on the gulf of america they deserve a right to exist and right now quite

01:19:26.980 honestly florida is full we are full we don't have any room for any other person other than

01:19:32.660 our own and i'm running for florida governor to take care of the people who put our state on the

01:19:36.480 map yep that's right uh lectus x lectus is the next one what yeah it's off topic sorry we'll

01:19:47.180 have to get to it another time okay let's keep going we've got uh bob thy log something like

01:19:53.360 that um wes will you read this one all right bob said can't wait to see you james in saint augustine

01:19:59.180 later today is it true that you have a 200k lien against your personal possessions and had your

01:20:04.740 tesla repossessed earlier last year it is it is um i'm not gonna hide from that the so my former

01:20:14.560 boss, hedge fund billionaire, I'll accept responsibility for what I did. What I did was

01:20:20.260 I worked at a hedge fund for two and a half years. And instead of doing the noble thing,

01:20:25.880 which is to start your own firm at the end of the year, not in the middle of the summer,

01:20:30.800 I just abruptly left in the middle of the year and left my entire team and my boss with all of

01:20:37.140 these convoluted macro positions that I was running. And that wasn't fair. And that was not

01:20:43.760 okay. And as a result of that, there were numerous frivolous lawsuits filed against me. I filed the

01:20:49.620 first one against him for wage discrimination and for being underpaid and all of that. But I think

01:20:54.840 this is just emblematic of the system that we live in nowadays, that you can't just move on from a

01:21:00.000 job. Yes, I should not have left in the middle of the year. And no, probably my boss should not have

01:21:04.900 sued me for millions of dollars knowing full well that I couldn't pay it simply in an attempt to get

01:21:09.320 back at me into exact revenge for the crime of leaving in the middle of the year and starting

01:21:14.480 my own business. And so I accept full responsibility. My boss was able to convince

01:21:18.700 a New York judge, which is everything you know about that, a New York judge that I owe him his

01:21:24.380 legal fees because that's how my non-compete agreement was structured and my employment

01:21:28.060 agreement. And so that's that. But to tell you the truth, I'm not rich and I don't aspire to be.

01:21:33.860 I never have been. I am running because I love my state. And at the end of the day, my own

01:21:39.980 situation is not one that I'm particularly caring about. I care about the folks who are struggling

01:21:45.000 to make sure that they can keep their homes, that they have the ability to pay rent, pay their

01:21:50.220 property taxes. That's why I'm running for Florida governor. And that's why I ask everyone to, at

01:21:55.780 the first, at the end of the day, to review everything. I am not going to ever be a closed

01:22:00.420 book. I want everyone to scrutinize every aspect of my life. And even the things that don't paint

01:22:08.040 me in the best light, perhaps you should factor them in, but ask yourself, is this worth not

01:22:15.360 voting for this vision for our state? I am not going to be someone who's going to bring in my

01:22:20.760 political opponent's own choices, like the fact that he knocked up his mistress while he was

01:22:26.240 currently in a marriage in 1998 in Tallahassee. I'm not going to bring up the fact that he was

01:22:31.300 arrested for drug possession with the intent to distribute in 1997, and then in 2000 was

01:22:36.300 rearrested for felony theft. If voters want to examine that, and if they at the end of the day

01:22:41.360 decide that that is going to be part of their decision making process, so be it. But at the

01:22:45.920 end of the day, this is not personal. It is about which vision is better for Florida. It's not about

01:22:51.040 the what. It's not about the who, rather. It's about the what. Yep, well said. Byron presents

01:22:56.620 a very dark vision. Okay, this is from Reformed Farmer. They said, keep up the good work, James 0.94

01:23:03.900 and NXR crew. Then we have another one from James B. He said, can you explain your co-founder

01:23:11.300 of Arizona and his ties to... Azoria. Azoria, I'm sorry, and his ties to T-A-M-I-D, Onward Israel. 0.65

01:23:19.860 How is this not a conflict of interest?

01:23:49.860 has said various vile things about president trump and heritage americans but aside from that i have

01:23:55.480 no formal relationship with him or to me had never been to israel have no plans to ever go

01:23:59.520 all right uh next question i think that's all of them oh that's all of them all right that's it

01:24:05.060 thank you so much james for your time we know you've got a busy schedule and more things to

01:24:09.100 get to we wish you the best of luck and we are praying for florida that the best man would win

01:24:13.980 as far as we can tell. You seem to be that man. You have the right vision. I think it matters.

01:24:20.200 Like people want credibility. They want something that's trustworthy. But I think, you know, I'm

01:24:24.320 sympathetic because it's my own testimony as well. The reality is that nobody comes out of the womb 0.55

01:24:31.580 with a fully developed worldview and political policies and all these things. Like the reality

01:24:38.100 is we're all learning. We are all a product of place and time and providence, and we're developing

01:24:44.840 our views as we learn. And for a lot of us, we're learning through the school of hard knocks. We're

01:24:49.140 learning by seeing corrupt politicians and what they've done to our country, what they've done to

01:24:56.100 our states, and in a very real sense, kind of responding with a never again mentality. And so

01:25:03.800 everybody's kind of at different legs of their red pill journey. And, you know, the question,

01:25:09.700 the only question I think that matters is whether or not the things that you're saying now are the

01:25:14.900 things that you really believe, that you mean, that you're committed to, that you're going to

01:25:19.740 hold to. Yeah, it would be great if we had guys running for political office who held all of these

01:25:27.460 kinds of views that we here at NXR espouse and that you're espousing and have held them, you know,

01:25:33.280 you know for the last 20 years without any contradiction but the reality is it for a lot

01:25:38.860 of us you know 2020 and you know the branch covidians and the summer of love with george

01:25:44.260 floyd and blm and all these things was a wake-up call right there was new data that we had to

01:25:49.660 process that we hadn't seen before and maybe we should have seen it maybe we should have been

01:25:53.640 more aware and more vigilant but for a lot of us that's kind of what it takes that's that for the

01:26:00.480 Christian, that's what life is. It's sanctifying. We are being sanctified as we're following Jesus,

01:26:06.820 seeking to be further conformed into his image. By God's grace, people always say it as though

01:26:12.380 it's a gotcha. It's like, well, you thought something different four years ago or five

01:26:18.920 years ago. I was just looking at X, and that's literally happening with me right now. You signed

01:26:23.660 this statement, you know, back in 2019, where, where you said that race was a social construct.

01:26:29.980 And now you're saying that it's a real category and that we should act accordingly in these

01:26:36.520 different ways and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like the simplest answer that I can give

01:26:41.100 to people is yeah. How, how is it a brag? How is it a point of pride to say I was retarded 20 years

01:26:50.380 ago and by the grace of god i'm just as retarded today i haven't learned a single thing you know 0.96

01:26:56.400 i haven't developed at all i haven't progressed at all i haven't grown at all or matured at all 0.97

01:27:01.520 i was stupid then and i'm just as consistently stupid now i i just don't see that as a plus 0.62

01:27:07.640 so for me um that would be my my biggest prayer for you james is that uh ultimately i mean it's 0.98

01:27:14.820 the christian doctrine of repentance it is to change to change and so my biggest prayer for

01:27:20.520 you is that the repentance right all the areas where you've changed that it would be genuine

01:27:25.180 change for the glory of god and the good of people in florida any final thoughts

01:27:29.560 well you're spot on and i'm reminded of a quote that i learned in high school which was 1.00

01:27:37.080 if you don't look back at yourself five years ago and think you were a complete idiot then 0.99

01:27:41.520 you've learned nothing right so i am proud to say that five years ago four years ago even a year ago 1.00

01:27:48.860 i was an idiot and we should encourage this evolution politically it's so long as it is 0.97

01:27:56.680 sincere it has to be sincere i'm reading a comment by the way that just came across 0.99

01:28:00.960 from my democrat opponent yes not just my republican primary contenders but my democrat

01:28:06.340 opponent. David Jolly condemns racial slurs by James Fishback calling on all candidates

01:28:12.560 to denounce. The Florida governor's race should be a contest of ideas, solutions, and leadership,

01:28:17.780 not racial slurs and demeaning divisive language. James Fishback is a formidable Republican candidate

01:28:23.880 for governor. His undisguised racist comments describing a black candidate's vision as a

01:28:30.160 Section 8 ghetto and referring to Byron Donalds as Byron and a slave are deliberate, offensive,

01:28:37.100 and beneath the state. At the end of the day, we are done with the tone policing. Yes, from the

01:28:43.900 right, Ted Cruz attacking me last night, but also and especially from the long storied position of

01:28:49.540 tone policing of the left. And so this is exactly what we're sick of. Everyone's worried about me

01:28:56.100 calling it a Section 8 ghetto, as opposed to the reality that Byron Donald's does in fact support

01:29:02.220 land developers all across our state, turning what used to be tracts of land for agriculture

01:29:07.400 into these large, single, unified, brutalist, ugly Section 8-style homes in the name of housing

01:29:16.060 affordability. My vision for housing affordability, deport the 1.4 million illegals, 1.00

01:29:22.080 ban Blackstone and BlackRock, and create a down payment assistance program along with an economy 0.99

01:29:27.620 that allows young people and old people to actually have great wages, a great sense of

01:29:34.060 homeownership, eliminate property taxes. So it isn't just easier to buy a home, it's easier to

01:29:39.740 stay in that home. And so I love to talk about individual policies, but the bigger vision of

01:29:45.100 all of this is that we're done. We're done apologizing. Those words, they don't mean,

01:29:50.300 They don't hurt. They don't affect. They don't perturb us like they used to. You want to call

01:29:55.240 us racist, xenophobic, nativist, bigoted, even go so far as anti-Semite. You do you. We, 0.92

01:30:03.280 we Joel women, we are going to save America. Amen. Well said. James Fishback for Florida

01:30:09.360 governor. James, thanks for coming on the show. We appreciate it. Thanks, guys. All right. God bless.

The NXR Podcast - January 12, 2026

NXR Livestream - Florida’s Next Governor (w⧸James Fishback)

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