00:04:41.100I think it is possible because it utterly compromises you. You can't go and say you're America first, Joel, and then take money associated with a foreign government and then push for policies to the detriment of Americans to the benefit of that foreign government. It doesn't matter who that foreign government is. Israel, Qatar, China, the UK. It could even be Sweden. It could even be the IKEA meatballs people. It does not matter.
00:05:04.940If you take money from a foreign government, you have forever tainted your ability to be pure in the eyes of the public. And even if, even if it were the case that you weren't using that money and that influence to pervert your thinking and priorities, you would still have the stain from the public's point of view that you were compromised. Either one, good or bad. Best case scenario, you are still in the eyes of the public compromised.
00:05:33.360Yeah, well said. Now, there's one narrative against you. There's a few, but there's one that I do want to focus on at some point in this interview. So I'm going to ask you some questions because I think it's fair to the listener. But before that, let's just do 30,000 foot view, macro, big picture. Give us whatever, I don't know, the number is arbitrary. Maybe it's three, maybe it's eight, whatever. But what are the big bullet points that you're running on?
00:06:02.200what are you going to do for people in Florida? Well, I would sum up the campaign really in one
00:06:07.460word, and that's affordability. Not in an abstract sense, but honestly, Joel, in an existential sense,
00:06:13.800the great replacement is real. And affordability is really at the heart of that, right? I mean,
00:06:19.500if they bring in another 100,000 Indian H-1Bs from Calcutta or Mumbai, and you can't have a job,1.00
00:06:26.220you cannot literally afford anything, let alone a home, let alone a car, let alone the ability to1.00
00:06:33.060get married and have kids and raise a God-fearing family. If they continue to let Blackstone,1.00
00:06:38.420BlackRock, Airbnb, and foreign nationals buy up and hoard our single-family homes,0.99
00:06:43.980you cannot buy a home, get married, and raise a family. And so I don't mean affordability in this1.00
00:06:50.140abstract Democrat sense where they use that word, they throw that word around as a Trojan horse to
00:06:55.460push through socialist ideologies. I mean it in a very existential sense that if the people who
00:07:00.880built this country and in my state in particular are getting priced out and pushed out, then we
00:07:06.720need to fight back. And so I believe that Florida, no offense to you guys in Texas, but I believe
00:07:11.880that Florida is the greatest state in the country. But that is little consolation if the people who
00:07:16.520made it the greatest state in the country can no longer afford to live here. And so my mission as
00:07:22.840governor is very simple. I want to make it easy for young people to buy a home, to start a family,
00:07:28.920to live out the full arc of the American dream. I want to make it easier for seniors to stay in0.98
00:07:33.400their homes. And I'll do that by eliminating property taxes across the board for Florida
00:07:37.640residents. I want to make it easy for our recent college grads to get jobs. That means ending the
00:07:43.060H-1B scam. I want to recognize that Florida did not cut its teeth on being a financial capital,
00:07:48.780but by being a citrus capital, a cattle capital, a space capital, a tourism capital,
00:07:54.900that there's really a fork in the road. Do you want old Florida or do you want new Florida?
00:07:59.480If you want new Florida, if you want an AI data center where a cattle ranch or a citrus grove
00:08:03.640once stood, then Byron Donalds is your candidate. If you want to make Florida the financial capital
00:08:08.980of the world and bring in more hedge funds and private equity, then Byron Donalds is your
00:08:13.560candidate. If you want to speed up the construction of Section 8 housing, then Byron Donalds is
00:08:18.760your candidate. But if you believe in the dignity of heritage Americans, if you believe that the
00:08:23.540identity and history of our state is not negotiable, if you want a governor who's not
00:08:28.100going to apologize for our history, or in the case of Byron Donald's, he wants to change the
00:08:32.820flag of Florida because it so closely resembles that of the Confederacy. He is ashamed of our
00:08:40.500Confederate history, and I'll never apologize for our Confederate history as governor. Then I am the
00:08:46.300candidate who will not just make life a little easier, but a lot more affordable. And there's
00:08:50.900a lot that can be said about the specifics, the nuances of that. But I think the number one
00:08:55.940litmus test for so-called operative word, so-called Republicans, is whether or not they
00:09:03.040will acknowledge the fact that we are being replaced right now. A Republican that does not
00:09:08.020acknowledge the great replacement, let alone has a plan to overturn it, has no business getting
00:09:14.440anyone's vote yeah well said uh it does seem like you know guys have talked uh in the the back
00:09:21.780alleys of the internet about horseshoe theory you know and um that as guys are you know particularly
00:09:27.320young white men uh trending more right wing in their politics and then of course the left has
00:09:33.080progressed further and further and further towards communism and extreme forms of you know socialism
00:09:38.800but a global socialism that completely erodes and replaces the native population of a nation.
00:09:46.780But yet, as these things are happening, there seems to be, you know, and people point it out
00:09:51.240as a gotcha, you know, but some measure of overlap, this horseshoe theory. And, you know,
00:09:57.440I think there's some validity to that. But more than that, the way that I would articulate what
00:10:03.160What I see happening in American politics that is somewhat novel is simply a breaking down of the left-right paradigm, of the Democrat-Republican paradigm.
00:10:14.860If you're going to run for office, you're still going, at this point, you have to run under one of those two major parties.
00:10:21.060That's simply the way that our political system works at this current juncture.
00:10:26.180So I'm not saying somebody on a GOP ticket that that's somehow a mark against them.
00:10:31.240If I was going to run, I would run with the GOP, but it seems like there's a grassroots swell, not just on one side, not just, you know, the forever, you know, Republican voters that are going to come out, but actually on both sides of the aisle, this bipartisan sentiment that's growing of, look, this guy, some of the moral and cultural things that he stands for, like, for instance, being against abortion or being explicitly Christian.
00:10:58.940There's people on the left who would be like, eh, don't like it.
00:11:03.640But my biggest focus right now is can I afford groceries?
00:16:49.640What I'm going to do is I'm going to go back to history.
00:16:51.140I'm going to go back to the state statutes, going back to the late 1900s if I need to,
00:16:55.940and the late 19th century, rather, if I need to, and understand what laws are on the books
00:17:01.480already and enforce those laws that are on the books. And so I support any measure by President
00:17:07.020Trump to make it easier for people to afford living in America today. Because I'll tell you,
00:17:12.540it's very easy to live in America as an illegal immigrant, as an H-1B. It's very difficult to0.93
00:17:17.880live in this country right now as an American citizen. And standing up to usury, it may be
00:17:22.420unpopular, it may piss off some interests, but at the end of the day, it's the right thing to do.
00:17:26.860Amen. 50-year mortgages, how do you feel? Well, I would start off by calling it the
00:17:31.12050 years of usury, to be completely honest. If you look at the math on the 50-year mortgage,
00:17:35.060you put down $250,000 over the course of just the first couple of years paying down payments.
00:17:40.140and for $250,000 of interest, you'll gain $18,000 of equity. That is a rigged system
00:17:47.680against American citizens. I understand the instinct to want to make it more affordable
00:17:52.980to buy a home, but financing that over 20 extra years is not the way to do it. The way to do it
00:17:57.880here in Florida is to deport every single one of the 1.4 million illegals who are living in1.00
00:18:02.480single-family homes. It's to ban foreign nationals like Chinese and Canadian from
00:18:06.480buying single-family homes. It's to ban and force the divestiture of Blackstone owning single-family
00:18:11.980homes. And what you'll do is you'll bring hundreds of thousands of homes on the market. There will be
00:18:16.440a new equilibrium clearing price, and you'll allow people to actually buy homes. And in a very small
00:18:21.220way, one thing that I'll do is I've already said that the foolish Republicans and Democrats who0.86
00:18:25.720sent $385 million of taxpayer money to Israel in the form of government bond purchases, I'll divest0.62
00:18:32.440those via executive order on day one. And then I'll create something called Rise and Shine,
00:18:37.800which is a statewide down payment assistance program to help young married couples buy their
00:18:43.300first home. If you're young and you're married and one of you is working full time and you've
00:18:47.460been living in our state for five years, there is a $10,000 check with your name on it for you to
00:18:52.500buy your first home. Because in Florida, we recognize that homes are for families, that
00:18:56.140homes are not merely an asset on the balance sheet. They are actually a fundamental precondition
00:19:01.500to be able to start a family, to buy dirt, to put a couple branches on the family tree. A home
00:19:07.000is where we celebrate Christmas, Easter, July 4th. We've got a dog, we've got a family. We make
00:19:13.560indelible memories with our kids and with their grandkids and so on and so forth. And so at the
00:19:18.840end of the day, I am running because homeownership is essentially existential to what we're building
00:19:23.480here in America. Well said. All right. AI data centers. Why are they a problem? Why are they
00:19:28.980immoral, what are you going to do? Well, there's a lot of reasons why they're a problem. But right
00:19:33.720off the bat, the biggest thing is that an AI data center represents somewhere between 500,000 to 1
00:19:39.000million new homes in terms of energy. And so when you bring on that kind of energy demand onto a
00:19:44.240limited power grid, you get one of two things. You get higher electric bills for everyone else.
00:19:49.480So essentially, locals have to subsidize OpenAI and Elon Musk building out the AI data center.
00:19:55.720And then second, because there's limited bandwidth on the electricity grid, you end up getting rolling blackouts. So you want South African-style energy production. You're going to get that in a community toward you. And then I think on a second point, what ends up happening is what does the AI data center say about us as a state?
00:20:12.280Where Citrus Groves once stood, a now massive, monstrous AI data center that makes a Costco look
00:20:19.300like a 7-Eleven will now stand. It is going to be ugly. It is going to threaten the environment.
00:20:24.860It is going to be an eyesore. And these are not hypothetical arguments. These are already
00:20:28.800materializing in Georgia, in Pennsylvania, in Tennessee, where these AI data centers are being
00:20:34.900built. You're seeing higher than expected electric bills. You're seeing it's affecting the water
00:20:40.300supply locally. And again, it's this massive eyesore. And so I don't think as Floridians,
00:20:45.040we can pretend that we are something that we are not. We are a state that has a proud heritage of
00:20:50.580agriculture, of citrus, of cattle, of space, of the Everglades, of wide open range. And we cannot
00:20:57.660lose that for a quick buck via AI data centers. As Florida governor, I will preempt and block all
00:21:04.360AI data centers that threaten our water supply and threaten to raise our electric bills.
00:21:09.100Well said. H-1B visas, what are you going to do? Are they good? Are they bad? What's the solution?
00:21:16.200Well, in the words of Clint Eastwood, they're neither good nor bad. They are ugly. And why
00:21:20.960H-1B visas are really bad is because they sell American workers off to India. What an H-1B visa1.00
00:21:28.860does is it allows a foreign third world slave laborer known as an Indian to come in and do the0.99
00:21:34.760wage, do the job at half price. And so now an American here in Florida, Jacksonville, Orlando,0.82
00:21:41.480Fort Lauderdale, wherever, they get laid off, not because they didn't do the job right,1.00
00:21:45.700but because they got replaced by a third world Indian who was willing to do it cheaper. I have1.00
00:21:50.740a very, very strong belief that American jobs are for Americans. I am not an economic corporatist.
00:21:58.080I am an economic nationalist. I believe that the economy must work for American citizens.
00:22:03.720and if it doesn't, then it is not an economy worth envying or worth praising. I don't care
00:22:09.160about GDP or the stock market. I think those are nice to haves, but the need to have, the need to
00:22:14.600have is, are our people gainfully employed, not just for the wage that it represents, but for the
00:22:21.220dignity it imparts on young men and women to be able to have a job, to be self-sufficient, that
00:22:26.740when you have an income, you're more likely to get married, to have a home, to have kids. You're less
00:22:32.080likely to fall victim to the vices of pornography, of addiction, of substance abuse, of all of that.
00:22:38.580And so I recognize that a job, once again, is not merely a pay stub or a direct deposit. It is the
00:22:45.160beginning of a self-disciplined routine that allows men and women to really cut their teeth, to really
00:22:52.120get an understanding of what it means to contribute to their community. And so, yes, the H-1B program0.77
00:22:57.380replaces American citizens here in Florida, but it also robs them of their very essence,
00:23:02.780of their very identity. And as Florida governor, what I'll do is I'm not playing games with these1.00
00:23:06.880companies. They have a very simple choice. Do you want to have access to the billions of dollars
00:23:11.180in state contracts, or do you want to keep your H-1Bs? Because if you are one of the tens of0.92
00:23:16.120thousands of companies that have access to our state contracts in Tallahassee, and you want to0.93
00:23:20.480keep H-1Bs, you are no longer going to have access to those state contracts. No state contracts for1.00
00:23:26.240companies that replace American citizens who have done nothing wrong. And if we need to, Joel,
00:23:31.460what we'll end up doing is we'll put a fine on these companies. So it recalibrates the market
00:23:36.280price. It removes the arbitrage. So for example, you lay off somebody who's making $70,000 a year
00:23:41.520and replace them with someone who's going to make $35,000 a year. Guess what? We're going to fine
00:23:46.880you $35,000 for that worker. So now you don't have a choice. You got $70,000 for the guy you
00:23:54.180just let go, or you've got $70,000 for the H-1B Indian. At that point, you've reasserted this1.00
00:24:00.680market equilibrium. So there's now no cost incentive to replace that young man from1.00
00:24:06.340Jacksonville with that young woman from Mumbai. I think that as Florida governor, if I'm judged by0.67
00:24:12.180one thing and one thing only, is do jobs go to our people or do they not? I'm sick and tired of
00:24:18.640these job announcements, these job statistics that, oh, all of a sudden we created a thousand
00:24:23.220jobs at this factory for Hyundai. Well, did those jobs go to American citizens or not?
00:24:28.120Because for the longest time, we've touted made in America. Made in America was the gold standard.
00:24:33.800No, no, no, no. Not those three words. Let's bring that out to five words. Made in America
00:24:40.000by Americans. We cannot make in America by Indians or by immigrants or by foreigners.0.99
00:24:45.860If we're not making in America by Americans, then there's absolutely no point. Because at1.00
00:24:49.740end of the day. We can't make America great again with illegals. We can't make America great again1.00
00:24:53.980with H-1Bs, with Chinese, with Indians. Sure as heck not with the stealing Somalians. We have to1.00
00:24:58.840make America great again with Americans. Right. Free market or Americans? What should be0.73
00:25:05.140prioritized? I think the free market is an excellent way to deliver for a free people.
00:25:11.180But the truth is that the free market, capitalism, laissez-faire economics, that is merely a means
00:25:16.360to an end. We're not going to sit here and say, you know what? We have the freest market in the
00:25:21.040world. We are the freest, most capitalist system in the world while our vets are living on the
00:25:26.600streets, while young couples are getting outbid by Blackstone, while a young college grad who1.00
00:25:31.320studied computer science and did everything right gets replaced by an Indian H-1B. We can't sit here1.00
00:25:36.500and say that we are the freest market when our people are afflicted with substance abuse, dying
00:25:41.160of overdose have been drawn into lust and pornography. No, no, the free market is not
00:25:47.780the goal. It is a way to achieve the goal. But a free people is the goal of free people of
00:25:53.580American citizens who are not being replaced by billion dollar private equity firms, by foreign
00:25:58.640nationals, by illegals, by H1Bs. We have to remember that the free market is a vehicle to0.93
00:26:05.000get to the destination, but a free people, a dignified people, a unified American people
00:26:11.040is the only goal that we should strive for. Well said. Is abortion murder?
00:26:16.460Yes. And there's no compromising for me on abortion. Abortion is either murder or it isn't.
00:26:21.800It's either a Holocaust or it isn't. It is either the greatest genocide in human history0.77
00:26:26.600or it isn't. And so I'm sick and tired of people like Byron Donald saying things like,
00:26:31.840We need to compromise and we need a European system of abortion. He said last year that, quote, abortion is a medical procedure. No, Byron, abortion is murder. And so as Florida governor, I'm going to shut down every single abortion clinic in our state.
00:26:46.540And the reason why is because young women are being captured by the abortion industry, are being fed the lie that an unexpected, unplanned pregnancy is a curse.
00:26:57.600No, every pregnancy is a gift from our Christian God.
00:27:01.480And I'm going to stop that slanderous lie dead in its track in our public schools.
00:27:05.660But, Joel, I am not just going to shut down or perhaps even burn down every single abortion clinic in our state.
00:27:12.200I am going to erect a Christian crisis pregnancy center right where that abortion center once stood.
00:27:20.220And the reason why is because when young women are faced with an unexpected pregnancy, they deserve our grace, they deserve our patience, and they deserve the full weight of our community behind them.
00:27:32.320I'm reminded that the greatest woman to ever live, the Blessed Virgin, the mother of our Lord and Savior, she too was afflicted with the fear, uncertainty, and doubt of an unplanned, unexpected pregnancy.
00:27:45.820And so if that can affect the mother of our Lord, I believe that it can affect and does affect young women across our state.
00:27:52.520And I believe for our sisters, for our nieces, for our neighbors, that we must stand up and treat them with respect, dignity, and patience at a time of what is clearly, unequivocally fear, uncertainty, and doubt, and put the full weight of our community behind her as she navigates this unique circumstance.
00:28:12.580Well said. Next question is two parts, and it takes me just a moment to flesh out. So humor me for a second. So my view of politics, my view of justice, a penal system in terms of dealing with criminals, I believe the Bible speaks in categories of sin, those things that are virtuous, that are good, those things that are immoral, that are sin, but not all sins are crimes.
00:28:35.020Okay, so coveting is a sin, but coveting is not a crime.
00:28:39.740That said, applied to the issue of homosexuality.0.94
00:28:43.140I believe that homosexuality is unequivocally, in biblical terms, a sin.0.88
00:28:47.960That said, in terms of a nation state and how it enforces righteousness and things that please the Lord,0.93
00:28:54.600I do not believe that we should have a police system that goes into private homes
00:28:58.260and is trying to spy on individuals and round them up for things that they're doing that may be sin, is sin,
00:29:04.500in a private quarter. However, when it comes to public displays, especially formal celebrations
00:29:11.540and promotions, propaganda, you know, gay pride parades, these kinds of things, drag queen story0.93
00:29:17.120hour, I think that that breaches from the category of sin now to what would actually be properly0.96
00:29:23.340categorized as a crime. So that idea, number one, do you believe that homosexuality is a sin? And
00:29:30.400Number two, would you agree that there is a certain level where it actually should,0.98
00:29:34.980the state should have sanctions, certain penalties against homosexuality when it becomes public0.59
00:29:41.000promotions, indoctrination? Do you agree with what I've just espoused in terms of sin-crime0.99
00:29:47.600distinction? Joel, I believe that any sexual intimacy that occurs outside of marriage is
00:29:56.800sinful, any and all sexual intimacy. And I also believe that as a Christian, marriage is between
00:30:02.680one man and one woman. I'm not going to apologize for that. That might be something that Republicans
00:30:08.160have abandoned and said, no, you know, the times are a changing, as Bob Dylan said, and so we have
00:30:13.060to adapt. We have to be cool. Absolutely not. Our Lord and Savior recognized that no matter what
00:30:19.600the zeitgeist ended up praising, we had to stand strong. And so where I stand is that any sexual
00:30:27.920intimacy outside of marriage is a sin. Marriage is between one man and one woman. And a society0.85
00:30:33.740that tries to venerate and exemplify sexual degeneracy is not the society that our founding0.61
00:30:40.400fathers fought and died for, whether it's drag queen story hour, the objectification and
00:30:45.960commodification of women via OnlyFans, pornography, whatever it may be. I'm running for Florida
00:30:51.140governor to stop that, not just to stop women from abusing themselves or worse yet being exploited
00:30:57.380by these online pimps who traffic their bodies via OnlyFans, but also to stop young men from
00:31:04.320being drawn into lust, from having their minds rewired by pornography to the point that they're
00:31:09.98030, 35 years old and they don't even know how to talk to a woman because they've gone down so many
00:31:14.560online rabbit holes. And so I want to break some news here with you, Joel. I hadn't planned to do
00:31:19.040this, but allow me to do it, which is that as Florida governor in year one, I will push for
00:31:24.000the first of its kind OnlyFans sin tax. If you are a so-called OnlyFans creator in Florida,
00:31:31.720you are going to pay 50% to the state on whatever you so-called earn via that online degeneracy
00:31:39.800platform. And that money, that money will be used to fund our education system, will be used to fund
00:31:46.000the crisis pregnancy centers, will be used to fund the first of its kind mental health czar for men
00:31:52.960in particular. Because men, men have been told for far too long that they are guilty of masculinity,
00:32:00.300that they are guilty of all of society's ills. I'm not going to stand for that slanderous lie.
00:32:05.660What I'm going to do is I'm going to end this lie that toxic masculinity is responsible for all the sins and ills of society.
00:32:14.060If you're an OnlyFans model and you reside in Florida, get ready to pay 50% of your income to the state.
00:32:22.240It is called a sin tax because it is a sin, number one.
00:32:25.540But the purpose of a sin tax in economics is to disincentivize and deter a behavior.0.98
00:32:31.480And yes, as Florida governor, I don't want young women who could otherwise be mothers0.98
00:33:26.180Okay, a couple more questions, then I'll let it go.
00:33:28.400here's one um and this one i'll show my hand as well and uh not you know it's not a gotcha question
00:33:35.180so i'll let you know what i'm thinking here but uh what is a heritage american and is vivek i
00:33:40.920understand it's a separate state in ohio but is vivek ramaswamy would he fit into that category
00:33:46.440of heritage american for me i'm going to say no to that second part of the question i don't believe
00:33:51.280that he is a heritage american and in terms of what i view as a heritage american um and this
00:33:57.740is where, you know, some of my constituents, some of my followers would say, oh man, Joel's a lib.
00:34:03.580For me, a heritage American would be somebody who is a third generation or more in America and not
00:34:11.100somebody who just came over, you know, 15 minutes ago. I do believe that heritage American stretches
00:34:16.560broader than just those of European descent, those who are white. Although I do believe that that is0.79
00:34:22.120the bedrock uh that you know the wasp right this this white anglo-saxon protestant uh is the makeup
00:34:29.960and that that you know of the foundation of america that it should be preserved it should
00:34:34.680be esteemed it should be protected uh so white heritage americans i think are um vital and that
00:34:41.200that is the majority but i would include you know others i think of you know clarence thomas i would
00:34:46.760say that he that he would be within that framework of a heritage American I would say Vivek is not
00:34:52.260because regardless of where he was personally born he is an anchor baby his parents were not
00:34:59.800born here so he's first generation actually born in the United States of America he kind of made
00:35:06.600his name in scamming which you know you're not beating the stereotypes of Indians in that regard1.00
00:35:13.440so that's where I'm at I don't think that he is a heritage American I don't appreciate him0.99
00:35:18.460every Christmas for two years like it's a tradition now two years in a row lecturing0.94
00:35:23.800heritage Americans of what it actually means to be an American as a non-American himself
00:35:29.360what do you think about that con that concept of heritage American
00:35:33.480how do you think it applies to someone like Vivek Ramaswamy
00:35:36.780well for the longest time our friends on the left when we ask them what is a woman
00:35:43.200They said a woman is someone who identifies as a woman. The paperwork said it, Joel. The ID says it. He, she identifies the way he or she identifies. And I guess that same twisted, perverted, logical fallacy is exactly the kind of slot that one Vivek Ramaswamy is trafficking in after two back-to-back Christmas crash-outs on heritage Americans and American identity.
00:36:06.560You ask Vivek Ramaswamy what is an American, and he says an American is someone who identifies as American, someone who has filled out the paperwork, who has pledged their allegiance to meritocracy or colorblindness or our constitutional republic, and any other follow-up is met with, you're a bigot.
00:36:24.880Let me be very clear. Vivek Ramaswamy's parents, neither of whom were citizens of this country when he was born, makes him definitionally, categorically, an anchor baby. But that's not the point. The point is, is that someone who is an American, unequivocally, is someone who loves America.
00:36:43.060So right off the bat, you cannot love America if you've been here for 15 minutes, if you broke our laws, if you have contempt for your fellow Americans.
00:36:51.360And so I think this idea of heritage American, if you think about it just purely on definition, a heritage American is someone who stretches back the exact number of generations I'm sure, Joel, you and I could debate.
00:37:01.280I would actually consider foundational Black Americans, of course, as heritage Americans.
00:37:05.840They've been here much longer than Mr. Ramaswamy has, and they've actually contributed to our country.
00:37:11.460Secondarily, I think the issue of American identity nowadays is that simply identifying with American values, whatever that means, does not make you an American.
00:37:21.080That nine-year-old Somalian girl who came here, came to Minneapolis, known nowadays as Mogadishu, and said that we, we, Joel, are living on stolen land.
00:37:30.640She is technically an American citizen now.
00:37:33.480Well, how on earth is that possible if she's lecturing us and holding contempt out for her brothers and sisters all across this country?
00:37:40.180I think what we have to remember is that we are not an economic zone. We are not a free trade area. We are not a Dubai, a Singapore, or a Hong Kong. We are a nation. And a nation is built, yes, around ideals, but it's also built around a people, an identity, a Christian identity, first and foremost.
00:37:59.100And so the way I think about my state is that my father was born and raised here. My grandfather fought in World War II and then ran cattle out of Okeechobee. His father, my great grandfather, fought in World War I and ran a small hotel on Fort Lauderdale Beach.
00:38:15.380My mother came here from South America, met my father in the early 1990s, and is a proud American who stands for the pledge just as my father does and recites those words. In fact, growing up, my mom's fluent, of course, in Spanish. That was her first language. I'm fluent in Spanish as well.
00:38:33.640But my mom, it was not my father's idea. It was her idea that we not speak Spanish at home, that we actually speak English because she recognized that while she was born in South America, she was an American citizen now. She was committed to raising my sister and me in an American household. And that was what we signed up for.
00:38:54.640And so I'm really proud, of course, my father's side of the family, but also my mother's side of the family, many of whom still live in South America, I get to visit them every year or so, because my mother recognized that when she was moving here, that she was now leaving behind not just her nationality, her citizenship in South America, but her identity, her language, to the point where she was going to raise my sister and me exclusively on English.
00:39:20.740Now, of course, my extended family speaks Spanish. I speak Spanish with them when I go down and visit. But I think that this idea of people like Vivek, people coming to our country, whether it's H-1Bs or Afghan nationals or whomever, especially illegals, and lecturing us about our way of life and how our country has gone wrong, that is completely unacceptable.
00:39:40.000I'm running for Florida governor for the very simple reason that it's very difficult to be an American in America today.1.00
00:39:46.240Very, very easy to be an illegal, very easy to be an Afghan national to get your food stamps, your Obama phone, your EBT, your welfare.0.83
00:39:53.180But if you're an American citizen, you fall on hard times.
00:39:55.860The state lectures you and Ben Shapiro comes out of the bushes and says, young white men, pull yourself up from the bootstraps.
00:40:03.000I believe in individual accountability, responsibility and agency.
00:40:05.860But I also believe that the state and our communities have a role in not just asking
00:40:10.200our citizens to pull themselves up by the bootstraps, but also to extend a hand and
00:40:14.860pull them up. And I'll tell you, Joel, that is not communism. That is Christianity. And that's
00:40:19.660the way that I will lead as Florida governor. Well said. Whites, should they remain a majority
00:40:26.480here in these United States? And what happens in the moment that whites become a minority?0.88
00:40:31.580well the very simple way to think about it is if you were to kill every single white person in0.99
00:40:36.480america and replace them with an indian national from calcutta would it still be america and of0.98
00:40:41.140course the answer is absolutely not i think that it's important to recognize that our founding
00:40:46.780fathers were white they were christian and they were men and any attempt whether it's via a public
00:40:52.300school history teacher to distort that truth or a google ai chatbot when you ask them to generate
00:40:57.140an image of our founding fathers, and it looks like the set of a Migos music video in Atlanta,
00:41:02.880but that is not exactly accurate, but it's also insulting. It's insulting to our country.
00:41:08.920What I respect about foundational Black Americans, and I might disagree with them on a lot,1.00
00:41:13.540especially on the issue of reparations, but that's okay. You're not going to agree with1.00
00:41:17.000everyone on everything, is that they don't pretend that our country was anything other
00:41:22.420than a country that founding fathers who were white Christian men ended up starting.
00:41:27.020Now, they are part of our history. They are part of our story. But at the end of the day, I think that the foundational stock of America historically has been white. And that in any country, whether it's China or Brazil or, of course, India, that if you eliminated the founding stock from being the majority of the country, if you said, well, the Han Chinese ceased to live in China, it wouldn't be China.
00:41:49.660If you said that Indians ceased to live in India, it wouldn't be India. And of course,0.54
00:41:55.440if white Christians ceased to make up the majority of America, you could hardly call it America0.89
00:42:00.660anymore. I think the bigger point, though, is how do we create an economy that actually
00:42:05.220separates American citizens who have been treated like second-class citizens for far too long1.00
00:42:10.280from the rest of this third-world foreign labor that comes into our schools, takes our jobs,1.00
00:42:15.440buys our homes and replaces us and denies us our very existence in our own country.1.00
00:42:22.160That's what the bigger fight here is about. And that's exactly why I'm running for Florida
00:42:25.420governor. Well said. All right. I'm going to put you on the spot here. I'm going to ask you one
00:42:29.520more question and then I'm going to start to push back a little bit and see what your explanation
00:42:35.820is because we have people who, you know, they want to know they're open. Debate is good, Joel.
00:42:41.140Yeah, it is. It is. We have, I think, the general sentiment of guys who follow us, and myself included, this would be a description of me personally, is I want to believe, help my unbelief, I want to believe that there is someone who actually cares about Americans, somebody who actually cares about white people and is not going to discriminate against us.
00:43:05.460somebody who's actually going to be America first and not Israel first, somebody who's going to
00:43:09.560do things that secure a future for me, my family, my children. And yet, you know this,
00:43:17.980we all know this, we have been disappointed so many times. And so it merits asking so that our
00:43:25.280listeners can hear it from you and make up their own minds whether or not they believe you. All you
00:43:30.960can do is give an answer, and then it's up to them to exercise discernment and decide whether or not
00:43:35.820you're telling the truth. So I'm going to ask a couple questions about your transition, because
00:43:40.540we have to admit that it seems as though some of these changes in perspective and emphases and
00:43:46.500priorities are rather recent. And so I'm going to ask that, but first, this I did not prep you for,
00:43:53.540I did not tell you it was coming, but I'm just curious.
00:43:59.460Nicholas J. Fuentes, if he endorsed you, how would you respond?
00:44:16.660Well, Joel, I am grateful for anyone in the country exercising their First Amendment rights.
00:44:23.540I think if anyone has any disagreement with anything, anyone, including one Nicholas J. Fuentes says, they're welcome to air that disagreements publicly.
00:44:31.740This attempt to cancel, censor or tone police American citizens, we rejected it from the left and I'll equally reject it from the right.
00:44:40.440To be very honest with you, I'm not in the business of soliciting endorsements from anyone who does not live in the state of Florida.
00:44:47.360That would apply to quite literally every single person outside of the state.
00:44:51.120I think that my opponent, Byron Donalds, has focused a lot of his time soliciting endorsements from the likes of Ted Cruz and Chip Roy and Dan Crenshaw and Mike Johnson and wants to ram that down their throats of Florida voters and say, you know what? Ted Cruz got back from Cancun and now wants you to vote for me.
00:45:08.920I recognize that the best endorsement I can get is from voters themselves. So I'm going to travel
00:45:14.720the state. I'm going to meet with voters face to face. They deserve to ask me tough questions,
00:45:19.560as I'm sure you will hear shortly. And they deserve to see how I'm going to respond. Look,
00:45:24.040the idea that any politician should be blindly trusted after we've gotten burned these last
00:45:29.000couple of years, that applies to me too. And so I don't want anyone to blindly trust me. I don't
00:45:35.000know that I can earn anyone's trust over a 30-minute conversation. I think that every voter
00:45:39.980has to, yes, take me and hear what I say and watch my interview with you or with Tucker or whomever,
00:45:45.560and then follow me very closely over the next seven to eight months. And when the media pushes
00:45:49.120me, when I get pushed back or tone policed or my policies might distance myself or push back from
00:45:56.000a donor, how do I respond when a donor rips up a $100,000 check because I refuse to disavow a
00:46:03.080fellow American? How do I respond in that moment? Well, we know how the other people respond.
00:46:07.580How will I respond? I can't predict how I'm going to respond. All I can do is watch very closely
00:46:12.500my every single move. If I have the opportunity to earn your trust and earn your vote, I'll be
00:46:17.380grateful. And if I don't, it'll be no hard feelings. Yep. Okay. Barry Weiss. All right.
00:46:23.440So now we're getting to you changing your views. And I think that's one of the main complaints
00:46:30.480that i've seen from people or at least you know if not a complaint at least a uh i think a genuine
00:46:36.240fair concern is all right he's he's parroting the right talking points his rhetoric is right
00:46:44.320what he's campaigning on uh that's right but how do we trust him because it seems as though
00:46:50.720it's a recent change so barry weiss how do we feel how do we feel about that
00:47:00.480How do I feel about Barry Weiss is a really interesting one. So I cold called, cold email, technically, Barry Weiss in April of 2023. I was writing a high school debate article about how high school debate had gone woke, where white students were told that they needed to apologize to black students before the round.
00:47:16.720They were forced to share evidence with black students, but black students didn't have to in the name of equity or a young student was disqualified from the Stanford tournament because that student used the word illegal immigrant as opposed to undocumented migrant.
00:47:31.260And so I pitched that to Barry Weiss. I'm grateful that the free press published it. But Barry Weiss and I have rarely agree on anything politically, including and especially the issue of Israel.
00:47:40.080I've never been paid by Barry Weiss or worked for her. I wrote some op-eds for her. I think the bigger question, though, for me is how my views on Israel have changed.
00:47:49.240And look, I'll be the first person to say, heck, yeah, they've changed. After October 7th, of course, like many Americans, I was repulsed to see this attack on innocent life, not just Israelis, but also foreigners, Americans, Cambodians, Laos, Thai, who just happened to be at the country at the time, either living or working.
00:48:05.880And so I was unequivocally disgusted by what happened on October 7th. And then over the coming, the subsequent years, I got, I guess it was one of those gradually then suddenly moments, you know, gradually seeing the news feed through and, you know, skeptically the very left-wing people who had lied to us for so long were saying this was, this was war crime, this was genocide, this was famine.
00:48:28.160But what really did it for me, Joel, was the bombing of the Holy Family Catholic Church in Gaza City. That was really the wake up moment. And I got to say, you know, I take responsibility because that was really selfish of me to say, look, I'm not going to care about this issue until it's Christians who are being slaughtered. And that was quite literally the truth. I didn't really hone in on the issue until my own people had been the victims of this aggression of these war crimes.
00:48:52.660And so my views on Israel have changed a lot. I think that we should welcome that evolution in people. But I've been a person who's, for better or worse, been a registered Republican since I was in high school. Not that that means anything nowadays.
00:49:06.120But yeah, I'll be the first to admit that my views on Israel have changed a ton to the point now where the Israeli media has called me a threat or Benjamin Netanyahu was meeting with my political opponent, Jay Collins, who will be announcing later this afternoon.
00:49:19.200He's now challenging me for governor. And Miriam Adelson, of course, the darling of Tel Aviv, has said that she is raising a war chest against me.
00:49:26.980And so I am someone who recognizes that when the facts change, I will change with them. And I was wrong on Israel before. And I now understand where that issue now stands today.
00:49:38.000Yeah. Okay. Well said. The Adelsons, even here in our great state of Texas, they continue to pose a massive problem trying to set up in the DFW area a casino that would attract like a magnet the worst of the worst.
00:49:57.200It would draw all kinds of things, aside from gambling and degeneracy in that regard, but also drug trafficking.
00:50:06.460It would just further impoverish people in that area.
00:50:10.540And there are a lot of good guys on the ground, local city council and guys like that, that we know, that we appreciate, who have been fighting against them.
00:50:18.860But it seems like everywhere the Adelsons go, everything that they give their money to, if you vote for the opposite,
00:50:25.500it, you'll probably be making a good decision. All right, so I'm going to leave it there. We're
00:50:31.340going to go to Super Chats here in a moment. But first, I want to give Wesley and Antonio,
00:50:35.660my co-host, a moment because I took most of the time here because I had a series of questions
00:50:41.280that I wanted to ask. And I appreciate your answers. But Wesley and Antonio, do you have
00:50:45.100anything for James? Yeah, James, thanks for coming on. And I just wanted to point out for
00:50:49.820the listener, I've worked in politics and worked on campaigns. And something politicians do that
00:50:54.680you don't do is they'll promise something that's not whatsoever in their purview to accomplish.
00:50:59.620I think of Zoran Mamdani who promised free child care in New York City. Well, the state legislature
00:51:04.600sets the budget. So he can promise that all he wants and people can vote for him on the premise
00:51:10.080of that promise. But as we're seeing right now, there's no take backs. There's going to be no way
00:51:14.460he's going to be able to accomplish free child care for everyone in New York City who wants it.
00:51:20.160But I want to point out the difference when you talked about the H-1B visa program. H-1B visas
00:51:24.380is a federal issue you if you were elected governor of florida you wouldn't have the opportunity to
00:51:29.020change federal work structures like that but you did say here's what i can do this is an issue
00:51:34.280it's outside of my purview but let's get creative and what i can do is address these state contracts
00:51:39.980and these companies that have what bring in these workers they want the money that comes from these
00:51:45.280contracts and here's what i can do if i was given given that uh that authority given that power to
00:51:52.000do so. So I just wanted to point that out to the listener. Much of what James is saying here,
00:51:55.800he's backing it up by saying, and I would actually have the authority to do this as governor.
00:52:00.060I'm not the legislator. I can't necessarily control what it is that they put on my desk,
00:52:04.360but this I can control. This I can do something about. Here's where I can make a difference there.
00:52:08.820And so I just wanted to commend you for that. Thank you, Wes. I appreciate it. And I think
00:52:14.800that's what we want, right, from our elected officials, those seeking higher offices. Okay,
00:52:18.640you're telling us the what, tell us the how for once, tell us the how, right? And I've actually
00:52:24.060studied these issues over the last couple of months. I'm reminded of the Supreme Court
00:52:27.060case, which was utterly unanimous in 1976, Takanis v. Bika, which found that states do
00:52:32.420have the authority and the compelling state interest to regulate immigration around employment
00:52:38.200fines. And so what California tried to do, believe it or not, in the mid-1970s, you can imagine that
00:52:42.840California tried to stand up to illegal labor, is that they passed a law to fine employers0.75
00:52:48.340for hiring illegals. And the Supreme Court found in this unanimous decision that states do have0.83
00:52:54.620sweeping authority to pass laws that while affect federal immigration law per view via workers,
00:53:03.940they can and do have a compelling and legal interest to enforce state law around federal
00:53:09.400employment visas. And so I look forward to using this constitutional authority. And at the end of
00:53:14.260the day, I think what you said it best, and I'm going to use that line if you don't mind, Wesley,
00:53:17.240which is let's get creative, right? I'm not going to sit here and say, that's not my problem
00:53:21.760because federalism, because the federal government, no, no, no, no. The state governments created the
00:53:27.620federal government. The 10th Amendment is the most underrated of the Bill of Rights because
00:53:32.500what it says is, is that authority that is not explicitly enumerated to the feds is reserved
00:53:38.200for the states and her people. And I am going to, I know that Clavicular likes to looks max.
00:53:42.740There's a guy on my team called Zach who likes to polo max. I am going to states rights max. I am going to use every single tool in my toolbox to protect our workers and to assert our sovereignty over the federal government. I don't care what the D.C. bureaucrats who are Republicans who are trying to ram down our throats want us to do. And I also understand that there's a prospect that one Gavin Newsom could be president in 2028. And I sure as heck don't want Gavin and his team of bandits to try to ram stuff down our throats.
00:54:11.640And so I recognize that what we're going to do is going to be creative. In many respects, it's going to be unprecedented. It's going to, in many respects, also challenge existing Supreme Court precedent around things like abortion, around things like immigration law in our public schools.
00:54:26.820And what I say is one of the greatest blessings that President Trump bequeathed us with was a conservative Supreme Court. We'll see the ACLU. We'll see CARE. We'll see all you guys in federal court. And guess what? We'll appeal it all the way to the Supreme Court, where we will win either 6-3 or 5-4, depending on how she is feeling that day. And I think we know who we're talking about.
00:54:49.820But at the end of the day, we've got to be very honest that our job is to not say we're going to do things.
00:54:57.920It's as if you told, you know, I've told someone on my team, for example, every day, I said, can we go get some pizza?
00:55:02.600And, you know, the pizza place we were going to go to was closed, but then he didn't stop him.
00:55:06.400He just went over to another pizza place and didn't make the excuse that, oh, well, this pizza place closed early so we couldn't get pizza.
00:55:11.920No, the job, the task was to get pizza.
00:55:15.660Do not come back here unless there is pizza for this group. And so my job is to make Florida
00:55:22.960great. It is not to make excuses. And I'm always going to stand by that edict.
00:55:28.520Yep. James, thanks for coming on. Just one question for me, I think, before we go to
00:55:33.080Super Chats. I think our listeners would appreciate your articulation of the, you could say, the GOP
00:55:38.900landscape in Florida specifically, but perhaps the GOP landscape nationally as you think about
00:55:44.560MAGA and I think what your platform represents, which is a more sort of America first sort of
00:55:50.500position with respect to some of the policy descriptions around sort of corporate interests
00:55:54.580and immigration, those sorts of things. Yeah. What do you make of it? You know, especially,
00:56:00.040I think, as you consider sort of MAGA and where MAGA will go as the GOP tries to find an identity
00:56:05.600outside of Trump. I mean, thinking beyond the elections in 2026. Yeah. So if you could give
00:56:11.440us a rundown of that, I think we'd appreciate it. So I think the debate is framed often online as
00:56:16.880MAGA versus America first. Now, I think we all know what those terms mean and your viewers do,
00:56:21.860but for the average person sitting at home, they don't know what MAGA means or America first,
00:56:25.780and they probably in many respects support both. I think the issue is that our party now has been
00:56:31.420torn asunder and there's two real camps to it. There is what we call economic capitalism and
00:56:38.080citizenship capitalism. If your goal of capitalism is to make the economy, which is to say GDP,
00:56:44.380the stock market, nominal GNP, all of that, if your goal is to elevate that as your North Star,
00:56:52.100that is economic capitalism. That is effectively what we've had for 25 years now, from George Bush
00:56:57.180to Mitt Romney, even to Barack Obama. That is economic capitalism. What I am fighting for as
00:57:04.020Florida governor is citizenship capitalism, an economy that is unapologetically free market,
00:57:08.860but one that advances the free market for the benefit, the exclusive benefit of citizens.
00:57:15.240And so my central question around economic policymaking is this, does this economic policy
00:57:21.400benefit, which is to say, help young men and women get married and buy a home? In 1960,
00:57:29.660half. Half of 30-year-old men were married, which is to say 30-year-old women were married.
00:57:35.720Half of 30-year-old men were married and owned their home. Today, less than 15% of 30-year-old
00:57:43.360men are married and owned their home. And the reason why is because, among other reasons,
00:57:48.780our economic system has lost sight of what we do to measure economic prosperity. If we're going to
00:57:55.200measure economic prosperity by how much scam Altman is going to be investing in AI data center,
00:57:59.660that is the wrong way to measure it. If we're going to measure it on stock prices or GDP or
00:58:04.780whatever economic statistic will flash on the Bloomberg terminal on Tuesday morning,
00:58:08.760that will be the wrong way to measure it. I think we think about economic policymaking
00:58:12.980around that very question. Does this policy help young people get married and buy a home?
00:58:18.540So for example, an AI data center fails that test for two reasons, because it actually raises
00:58:22.740electric bills and makes homeownership less likely on the margins. And also it doesn't create
00:58:27.800real local great paying jobs, it brings in 40 or 50 highly specialized workers, oftentimes from
00:58:33.400overseas or out of state to take those jobs. And so to the very question of whether or not we should
00:58:38.980vote up or down in an AI data center, if you view it through the lens of does it help young people
00:58:43.880get married and buy a home, it by definition fails on both tests. And so I think the real
00:58:49.660division, the dichotomy of the Republican Party today is that between economic capitalism and
00:58:54.920citizenship capitalism, if we take Pat Buchanan's view of the economy, which is, yeah, capitalism,
00:59:00.660whatever, but let's use that as a vehicle to advance liberty, prosperity, and dignity for
00:59:07.120American citizens, that is the kind of vision that I support. And that's why I'm running for
00:59:12.120Florida governor, because I'll tell you, Republicans and Democrats have been disaffected and disturbed
00:59:16.960by the uniparty establishment for too long. They're sick and tired of being lectured about
00:59:20.700their grocery bills. And inflation used to be five, and now it's only three. You're only getting
00:59:25.800screwed over by 3% a year in rising prices as opposed to five. They're told that if they
00:59:30.520complain about the fact that they don't have a job, that the stock market, they're reminded
00:59:33.660that the stock market has made a new all-time higher, that GDP is now at 4.3%. Well, guess
00:59:38.700what? Folks in Jacksonville, Pensacola, Pahokia, where I grew up in Broward County, we don't eat
00:59:43.200GDP for dinner. The stock market isn't going to pay our electric bills, and we are sick and tired
00:59:48.020of choosing between rent and prescription drugs. We need an America first candidate who's going to
00:59:53.320fight, yes, for Republicans, but also for Democrats, Antonio, because at the end of the day, there is
00:59:57.920not a gas price for Republicans and a gas price for Democrats. There is not a mortgage rate for
01:00:03.160those who voted for Barack Hussein Obama and a mortgage rate for those who voted for President
01:00:08.220Trump. There is a mortgage rate for all Americans, a gas price for all Floridians. I am running
01:00:13.680because honestly, I understand a lot of Democrats are frustrated, and they're not just frustrated
01:00:18.640with the Republican Party, they're frustrated with the Democrat Party. And that's why I've
01:00:22.500been honored to have countless voters already across the state change their party affiliation
01:00:28.080from independent to Republican or Democrat to Republican, because to vote for me and our vision
01:00:34.640on August 18th in the closed primary, you have to be registered as a Republican. The truth is,
01:00:39.800the next governor of Florida is going to be a Republican. Donald Trump won this state by 13
01:00:45.180points. Ron DeSantis before him for governor run by ran by a one by 20 points. The next governor
01:00:51.360of Florida, without a doubt, is going to be a Republican. And so if you're waiting to vote
01:00:56.380until November, you're allowing the system to disenfranchise you because your vote will not
01:01:01.520count. The only vote that matters here in Florida is on August 18th, 2026. It is James Fishback
01:01:08.440versus Byron Donalds. It is America first versus America last. It is cattle and citrus versus AI
01:01:15.920data centers. The great replacement, free speech, and the dignity of our neighbors is on the ballot.
01:01:22.380I would be honored to earn your vote on August 18th. You just have to make sure you are registered
01:01:27.060as a Republican, and you can do that online right now for free. James Fishback, last and final
01:01:33.200question are you ready right now to pledge your undying allegiance and give an unapologetic
01:01:38.540endorsement of this book the hyphenated heresy judeo-christianity i need to hear i'm looking
01:01:44.440i am looking forward to reading it i've already ordered my copy i'm looking forward to reading
01:01:49.020it when i stop going from holiday and express to holiday and express on the campaign trail and
01:01:53.360eating mcdonald's and waffle house but i look forward to reading it i think it's a really
01:01:57.420important book that challenges the status quo in a way that it needs to be i want to be very clear
01:02:02.660this country was built on Christian values, not Judeo-Christian values. None of our founding
01:02:07.540fathers were Jewish. And that is not a dis, that is not disrespect for my Jewish friends anywhere
01:02:13.380in Florida. It is just a fact. And so to use a line that is often trafficked by one Benjamin
01:02:19.240Shapiro, facts don't care about your feelings. It is a fact that our country was built by Christian0.99
01:02:26.440men. And I'm sick and tired of the history books, the teachers unions, and including and especially1.00
01:02:31.820the political commentators on the right trying to distort that history. It was wrong. It was
01:02:37.640wrong for Democrats to distort history with the 1619 Project. And it is equally as wrong for
01:02:43.280Republicans to ram the Judeo-Christian lie down our throats. I have respect for my Jewish friends.
01:02:49.840I have respect for their faith and their religion. But at the end of the day, we were built as a
01:02:54.300Christian country. Our First Amendment protects the rights of everyone to worship in their own
01:03:00.360individual way. But I'm an unapologetic Christian. I believe that Christ is king. My life verse is
01:03:06.480Luke 646. Why do you call me Lord, Lord, and not do as I say? I think that I as a Christian and
01:03:12.160many others have struggled with this idea that yes, we believe in a Christian God, but we often
01:03:16.660stray from those precepts, from those teachings, from those commandments. And I'm an imperfect man.
01:03:21.740I'll be the first to acknowledge that. I'm often asked, how can you revive Christian faith across
01:03:27.080your state. I don't know that we can pass a law or pass additional funding to do that. But my
01:03:31.600commitment is what I've been doing for the last two years. I'll do for the next four and hopefully
01:03:35.480for reelection before after that. You will see me and my wife and my kids every single Sunday in
01:03:42.200the Christian pews professing that Jesus Christ is Lord. Because if you want to be a Christian
01:03:48.100nation again, you need our leaders to be unapologetically Christian in every single0.95
01:03:53.900thing that they do amen all right um james thanks for your time we appreciate it we're going to go
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01:06:04.440all right let's go ahead and get the super chats up on the screen so that we can see them
01:06:10.680and we will begin with the very first one here it is uh antonio will you take that dapper dan
01:06:16.040yep dapper dan 1993 sent ten dollars and um is asking any thoughts pertaining to the fact that
01:06:22.780the ICE agent in Minneapolis shot twice
01:06:24.920from the side of the car when he wasn't
01:06:26.760in danger. I voted for them to deport0.97
01:06:28.620illegals not to shoot white people.0.99
01:06:30.880I think there's a question that came in before our0.95
01:06:52.600killing it appreciate your encouragement all right next uh this dude rocks sent five dollars
01:06:59.260fishback uh dressed james uh fishback what would you say the center right and farther right wings
01:07:05.220great greatest political blind spots are the pendulum won't stay in our corner forever
01:07:11.300again james this is for you i'll just read it one more time what would you say the center
01:07:16.100right and farther right wings greatest political blind spots are
01:07:19.160it's probably that as long as it's not illegal immigration is good and you know this idea that
01:07:32.980well we're going to build the wall but it's going to have a big beautiful door or that as my
01:07:36.940opponent byron donald said last year that we want anyone and from anywhere to come here so long as
01:07:42.640they're going to contribute no absolutely not we don't the mass invasion of our country whether
01:07:46.360it's illegal or legal, which is to say blessed by the Uniparty in DC, that is wrong. And so what I
01:07:52.760want to see from more and more from my party and the platform I'm running on is that no, the mass
01:07:56.820invasion is wrong. The Haitians in Springfield were actually here legally. They were given
01:08:01.280temporary protected status in 2010 after the devastating earthquake in Port-au-Prince.1.00
01:08:05.160The Afghan sicko who shot two National Guards members right before Thanksgiving last year1.00
01:08:10.580was here legally. And I don't need to remind anybody that the 9-11 hijackers were also1.00
01:08:15.660here in our country legally. And so I believe that one, we were not a nation of immigrants.
01:08:21.340I believe that immigrants have played a historic role in our country, historical role as well.
01:08:26.160But at the end of the day, what worked in the 1970s and 80s does not work today because in
01:08:31.300large part, the legal immigrants who came to our country via Ellis Island, they weren't handed an
01:08:35.880Obama phone, EBT or Snapchat. They were actually given the opportunity to earn, to pull themselves
01:08:42.620up and they actually assimilated. The third world migrants coming here today, whether they are given1.00
01:08:47.800legal status or not, they refuse to assimilate. They refuse to contribute. They act as if they're1.00
01:08:53.880entitled to everything. But in all honesty, they give nothing in return. Well said. Wes,
01:09:00.320can you take the next one? All right. We've got a super chat from Jonathan Perez. He said,
01:09:04.540thanks to the NXR guys for taking an interest in our Florida governor race. The content has
01:09:08.800been fire lately. James, when will you be in Naples? I will be in Naples next month. So we
01:09:16.260have a full 67 tour, 67 County tour set up, but I think you guys can appreciate with security and
01:09:23.040with literally Israel calling me a threat in their own media. I want to be cognizant of not giving
01:09:27.800people too much heads up. So we're announcing all events, but two to three days beforehand,
01:09:32.000I'm in St. Augustine today. So if you're in St. Augustine, go to my X or my Instagram,
01:09:36.800and you can see exactly where we're going to be. We're going to be at the Applebee's,
01:09:39.760no $3 margaritas for Joel Webin though. And we will be there and I'll be taking questions
01:09:44.600directly from voters. I don't do the typical stump speech. I talk for four or five minutes
01:09:48.540and then I just take questions from anybody and everybody. I will not leave any of our venues
01:09:53.260until I've answered every single question. Floridians deserve a governor they can see,
01:09:58.120talk to, and even debate with. And that's why I'm running. Great. All right. Next one comes
01:10:02.920from Caleb and he says, thank you, Mr. Fishback and Mr. Webin and co for doing this. What does
01:10:09.420James make of his background working in the Jewish finance scene and their pro-Israel allies
01:10:17.060enclave in Florida? Are they opponents? James, what do you think? I think anyone who fuels the
01:10:25.680great replacement of American workers, who financializes our economy, who lets single0.82
01:10:30.180family homes get sold and hoarded by Blackstone or Blackrod. I think anyone of any background0.86
01:10:36.040is an opponent to making America great again and putting America first. And so I am running to
01:10:41.020stand up for every single Floridian, wherever you are, wherever you live, however you pray.
01:10:45.600I'm an unapologetic Christian. I hope you'll come to Christ, but I'm running for governor so I can
01:10:49.960make your life a little bit easier and a lot more affordable. And that starts with standing up to a
01:10:54.280financial industry that for far too long has commodified and financialized every single
01:10:59.400aspect of our life. We have to get back to basics. And honestly, our future is not in the future.
01:11:06.220Our future is in the past. We have done this before. We have a blueprint to help young men
01:11:10.940get ahead. We have a blueprint to help a family raise their four kids on a single income. We have
01:11:16.980a blueprint to preserve our identity and ensure that America is for Americans. And so I don't0.98
01:11:23.160want to look to Singapore, Dubai, or Hong Kong. I want to look to our own state, our own country,
01:11:29.900our own past. Because if we did it before, we can do it again.
01:11:34.440Well said. Next one is from Hear Me Roar. And it's a picture of a woman. So it's not my favorite,
01:11:40.120but we'll go ahead and read it anyways. They said, why just young married couples? What about
01:11:45.900single parents, low income, disabilities, veteran? Yeah. The username and that's a great question
01:11:51.880checking out, but go ahead. That is a really, it's a really good question. And the reason why
01:11:56.060we're going to do young married couples, to be clear, I want to make sure housing is affordable
01:11:59.240for everyone. If you're struggling with a disability, if you're a former veteran,
01:12:03.540whatever the case may be, I want to make sure that you have the ability to not just buy your home,
01:12:08.980but to afford to stay and live and exist in your home. And so what I'll say is that our Rise and
01:12:17.580SHINE program is to help young married couples for the very simple reason that I think marriage
01:12:22.360is in crisis in this country. If you show me the incentive, I'll show you the outcome. That's a
01:12:27.420principle from economics that applies to everyday life. There is every incentive for young people
01:12:32.380not to get married as opposed to get married. Our welfare system, our social safety net,
01:12:37.720unemployment assurance, SNAP, EBT, the entire economic apparatus is structured in a way that
01:12:43.440disincentivizes marriage because it pays you more to be single as opposed to be in a God-fearing
01:12:49.320covenant. And so I want to tip the scales the other way. I want to create an economic system
01:12:53.220that actually incentivizes marriage. And I want to help, yes, young women, but also I got to sit
01:12:58.000some of these young men down and say, guys, get real, stop sleeping around, close out your OnlyFans
01:13:03.500account, put down the blunt, go back to church, rediscover Christ. That is the way we're going
01:13:08.960to revive our identity as Floridians. And if that means creating a specific economic incentive
01:13:14.500that tells young men and young women that it's time to settle down, quit playing games, put down
01:13:19.600the nonsense and actually get real about your relationship, then there is a $10,000 down payment
01:13:25.900assistance check with your name on it. But I'm not going to create an economic system that continues
01:13:30.580to celebrate, exemplify and incentivize this singlehood situation ship sleeping around.
01:13:37.800no. What made Florida great was the covenant and the governance of marriage. And we have to get
01:13:43.380back to that. And Rise and Shine is one of many programs that will help people afford a home.
01:13:48.300But this program in particular is exclusively for young married couples.0.99
01:13:53.400Amen. That's good. That's part of the problem with not just Florida or a singular state,1.00
01:13:59.020but just with our country as a whole, is that we're constantly degrading everything down to
01:14:04.880the lowest common denominator. And so essentially what we've done is we've made the footnote the
01:14:10.420headline. We've made the exception the norm, and we continue to subsidize and favor and promote
01:14:17.060and handhold all of the most difficult situations to the utter neglect of God's ideal. And then we
01:14:26.860wonder why nobody's striving for the ideal. So none of this is a lack of compassion. If I can
01:14:32.640just add on to what James is saying. It's not that we don't care for single moms. It's not that we
01:14:37.780don't care for the disenfranchised and for those who are down on their luck and having a hard time.
01:14:42.860But what we're saying is that for decades now, that's really all of who we've cared for as a
01:14:49.320nation. All of our attention, all of our resources, all of our emphasis has gone towards a group of
01:14:56.420individuals who in some cases were really done unjustly. They really were mistreated. They really
01:15:06.480are victims. And in other cases, there's tons of people who are simply scamming the system or
01:15:12.860they're in a difficult situation. And although we're sympathetic and compassionate, it is
01:15:18.160ultimately their responsibility for why they're there. Nobody did it to them. They did it to
01:15:23.160themselves. Meanwhile, the one group of people that are, you know, like the meme, you know,
01:15:27.700that are like drowning on the bottom of the pool, you know, just a skeleton, long forgotten and
01:15:32.900neglected, are the people who are trying to follow the Word of God and do things the way that the
01:15:38.920Bible tells us. And for once, it would be nice to give a little bit of focus to them. The next
01:15:44.540question comes from Commander Tong. He said, love or she, I don't know if it's, I don't know,
01:15:51.040This individual said, I love the OnlyFans syntax. How do you mobilize the boomers to vote for you? It's mega frustrating to me that the boomers don't seem to care about young people's concerns. What do you think, James?
01:16:08.280you know I get that line a lot that the boomers don't care I think that I don't think it's true0.99
01:16:14.780I think that we have to frame it we have to message it in a way that one shows that they're0.89
01:16:22.280actually on the hook because if young people don't get jobs can't buy a home they're going
01:16:26.680to continue to be dependent on not just taxpayers but family members who are older and that creates
01:16:33.100a real dependency trap, both financially and culturally. And so how do you win the boomers?
01:16:38.240How do you win anybody? Is you just show up. And that's what I'm doing. That's why I've got0.98
01:16:42.14067 counties on the map for the next three months. That's why I'm living out of a
01:16:47.960Holiday Inn Express eating at Waffle House and McDonald's, because I've got to meet every single
01:16:52.900voter I can, get this message to them, and recognize that they may not agree with me at
01:16:57.600first. They may be apprehensive at first, but my goal is to quite honestly not take no for an answer
01:17:02.520and make sure that we can get this message directly to them. Because I think our message
01:17:06.060resonates with everyone. The issue, especially of eliminating property tax, look, if you're 60,
01:17:11.32065, 70 years old, you've already bought your home. You're not renting it from the government.
01:17:15.640And so I'm running for governor to eliminate property taxes, yes, for our seniors who deserve
01:17:20.200to be able to retire with dignity, but also for our young couples, because it's not just enough
01:17:25.040to be able to get that down payment, to buy that home and to move in. You also have to have a path
01:17:29.980to be able to continue to afford that home and to not get evicted. And so when you had a $7,000,
01:17:35.200$10,000 property tax bill due every single year for as far as the eye can see, that challenges
01:17:42.620your ability to stay in that home, to stay married, and to keep raising your kids. And so I'm
01:17:48.460eliminating property taxes for every single Florida resident because it helps our seniors
01:17:52.340retire with dignity and it helps our young people start off on the right track. Well said. Well said.
01:17:58.100The next one comes from username geogasserr1b, and they say, Russia facilitates Christian persecuted migrants.
01:18:06.300To this day, there are a lot of European stock families in Africa and South America.
01:18:10.540I would like to know if Fishback would implement something similar.