The NXR Podcast - March 02, 2026


NXR Livestream - IRANIAN WAR MEGASTREAM w⧸Kangmin Lee


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What have we learned when it comes to wars, and especially wars in the Middle East? What you draw up on a whiteboard rarely happens. What you think you think theoretically is going to occur, there might be unintended and unforeseen consequences.

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00:00:00.000 It has nothing to do with nuclear weapons at this point.
00:00:02.740 This is now that we want to go all in and take out the regime. 0.99
00:00:09.040 It's time for us to close the chapter on the Iranian Ayatollah and his henchmen 0.95
00:00:15.200 and start a new chapter in the Middle East. 0.99
00:00:18.340 That sounds good, doesn't it?
00:00:20.600 But what have we learned when it comes to wars, and especially wars in the Middle East?
00:00:24.600 What you draw up on a whiteboard rarely happens.
00:00:30.000 What you think theoretically is going to occur, there might be unintended and unforeseen consequences, especially when you're talking about a country two and a half times the size of Texas.
00:00:45.040 It has 90 million people and was an ancient and great power with well over a dozen ethnic groups.
00:00:52.520 you have underground christians you don't really have many jews left in persia but also you have
00:00:58.980 secular younger persians who's going to run the country exactly lindsey graham this sounds like
00:01:04.000 hillary rodham clinton in libya so i'm pointing to the first extreme right now the neoconservative
00:01:11.020 extreme the we must go take off the head of the snake right now breaking news donald trump just
00:01:17.300 declared war over the weekend on iran it's not just a declaration this war is well underway we
00:01:23.400 are dropping bombs like there's no tomorrow each of these missiles costing the american taxpayer
00:01:28.700 nine million dollars a pop we're talking about hundreds even a thousand the resources are
00:01:33.900 waning but there'll be replacements and we'll keep spending your money now iran is retaliating in
00:01:40.420 kind the leader of iran allegedly has now been killed and so the head of the snake is decapitated
00:01:46.820 But the question remains, of course, will this snake regrow two heads in its place?
00:01:51.840 We hope that it will be good for those people in Iran, especially those who have been oppressed by a totalitarian regime,
00:01:58.720 and most especially those who are Christians who have been persecuted in times, and we want to see them thrive.
00:02:06.120 But we know for sure it may be good for Iran.
00:02:09.040 It might be temporarily good for America in some economic fashion. 0.52
00:02:13.600 Maybe the Dow goes up, oil prices, this, that, and the other. 0.94
00:02:17.400 But there's one group that it's definitively positive for, and that group, per usual, is Israel. 0.92
00:02:23.340 One of my concerns is this, that Iran was really serving as one of the only checks and balances in the Middle East, 0.91
00:02:29.260 holding Israel and its influence and power at bay. 0.91
00:02:32.740 With them being removed from the board, it won't happen overnight, 0.90
00:02:36.120 but Israel can conceivably over the decades to come expand its borders and gain strength and
00:02:43.340 political power, have certain trade routes and geopolitical strategic positioning to become
00:02:49.180 a rival superpower to these United States. And if that occurs, they will not have our best interest
00:02:56.360 at heart. I don't want to see Israel rival the United States in power because I don't trust them. 1.00
00:03:03.140 So, all this being said, there are people who hate the war, people who love the war. 0.94
00:03:08.160 That said, I think it's still yet to be determined.
00:03:11.500 We don't want to have egg on our face and rush to certain judgments preemptively.
00:03:16.280 However, it's yet to be determined, is this going to be good for America?
00:03:20.420 What is the cost? How many casualties will there be?
00:03:23.600 It could turn out that China doesn't enter the fray, Russia doesn't enter the fray,
00:03:27.520 and in a matter of days or just a couple weeks with minimal casualties,
00:03:31.680 everything is done and things are better for some of the iranian people and even economic benefits
00:03:37.200 for america that said long term this is still not good and you must remember this it is a breaking
00:03:45.340 of our president's promise he ran on a platform to do things at home not to stir up conflicts in
00:03:53.240 the middle east he no new wars that was part of his platform so we're not getting the deportations
00:03:59.320 here where we need them in America, but we are getting some geopolitical war on the other side
00:04:07.580 of the planet. That's the big point that we need to be aware of. Another one of the misnomers that
00:04:12.560 the boomers will always tell you is we got to fight the Muslims over there so that we don't 0.99
00:04:16.700 have to fight them here. But the Muslims who are here in our country because we're not getting the 1.00
00:04:22.300 mass deportations we were promised, they are now agitated. There was a shooting that just occurred
00:04:27.300 in Austin, Texas, which is less than an hour away from our studio where three individuals have been
00:04:32.940 shot and killed and 14 others injured. You could almost hear the collective sigh of relief from the
00:04:38.120 transgender community. They were probably very pleased to hear that the latest shooting for once 1.00
00:04:42.980 was actually just another good old-fashioned Islamic terrorist instead of another transgender 0.99
00:04:48.400 going into a Christian school and shooting up children. The final thing that I'll say in the 0.96
00:04:53.160 opening of this episode is, you know, we were all white-pilled for a moment there. You know,
00:04:58.320 I was drinking some of the Kool-Aid, I have to admit, excited about, you know, the U.S. Golden
00:05:03.800 Age, and we're getting back to our roots. The military is going to be based again. We're going
00:05:08.260 to root out wokeness and BLM and all the gays and transgenders and minorities from our military. 1.00
00:05:14.940 It's going to be made up of strength once again. And what does that strength look like in practical 1.00
00:05:19.680 terms, well, it looks like young white Christian men. But we're going to fill our military with 0.76
00:05:26.000 young white Christian men just in time to potentially send them into the sand to die? 1.00
00:05:30.900 Yeah, that sounds about right. The black pill comes right back. You take the white pill and 1.00
00:05:35.640 then, oh, it's followed up by a disheartening realization. So hopefully, and I think it's
00:05:41.780 quite possible, just for the record, I want to state this on record, hopefully this is a quick
00:05:46.460 event. The American casualties are minimal, and the tax dollars will be maximum, but at least the
00:05:53.120 casualties will be minimal. It won't last that long. There'll be some kind of economic boom or
00:05:58.480 benefit for America, at least in the immediate, and Iranian Christians will be treated with much
00:06:04.520 more dignity. I genuinely pray and hope for that. Even if that is the case, there'll be a lot of
00:06:10.120 MAGA, neocon types saying, I told you so. This was great. Look, we're already done in just a few
00:06:15.540 days and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. In the long run, I truly believe this will come back to haunt
00:06:21.660 us. We're not just looking to the next 15 minutes of convenience and ease. We are looking down the
00:06:28.440 tunnel. We're looking to the future. There is one group that benefits more than anyone else,
00:06:34.560 and it is Israel. So the question is, do we trust them? And the answer should be no. Tune in now. 0.96
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00:08:26.740 radical christian nationalist pastor joel webin joel webin i'm going to talk about joel webin
00:08:35.600 joel webin is an accident 0.96
00:08:56.740 let's go let's go we are bombing muslims in the middle east that's what america was built on 0.96
00:09:04.500 some guys do it because they're beholden to israel blackmail epstein files you know 0.99
00:09:10.480 but then some guys like dick cheney god bless him he was bombing brown people in the middle east
00:09:16.560 without even being listed in epstein files just for the love of the game for the love of the game
00:09:20.880 the love of the game all right we have today kong min with us we're super honored to tell
00:09:25.740 our listeners, where they can find you, who are you, what do you do? Yeah, thanks for having me,
00:09:29.540 guys. I am a creator, streamer, yapper on the internet for all intents and purposes,
00:09:35.640 an honorary, honorary, rooftop Korean, talk about right-wing politics and traditionalism,
00:09:42.820 and for all intents and purposes, Christian nationalism, because I do believe in nationalism,
00:09:48.340 and I believe that Christ is king, and the Christian worldview should be what governs
00:09:53.120 our country and every single country and nation on earth and so yeah you can find me on youtube
00:09:58.080 on x on instagram everywhere where politics is being discussed awesome that's great i mean i'm
00:10:04.400 glad to hear he's a pundit too because i i just feel like we don't have enough of those people
00:10:08.500 on the internet that's the problem man when you think about it it's like if you woke up this
00:10:12.780 morning you didn't think to yourself first thought of the day you know what but are there enough
00:10:17.260 podcasters what if what if we had a podcast about politics yeah you know what i mean from a right
00:10:23.440 wing perspective right like i mean that's like that's what we need we need government control
00:10:28.320 of podcast mics if you want to go to amazon and purchase a podcast we need a permit we need to be
00:10:32.800 reviewing let's say you have a coffee sponsor i don't know all right so just to put our listeners
00:10:38.920 at ease um it's like okay dude you guys are talking you opened up talking about bombing
00:10:44.180 brown people, Muslims in the Middle East, and you made a joke about it being positive,
00:10:48.360 like, I follow this channel for one reason, one reason only. You better get in this episode and
00:10:52.940 make it about the Jews. And so I assure our listeners, do not fear. We will find a way to
00:10:58.640 do that, and it's not hard at all. We do have massive concerns about Israel as it pertains 1.00
00:11:03.140 this latest event with declaring war on Iran. And so we're going to be talking about that. But
00:11:08.220 here's the deal. We are striving for, you know, just a grade above the rest, a little bit of
00:11:14.060 high IQ Israel awareness. We don't want to be stupid and foolish and have egg on our face 1.00
00:11:22.160 five days from now. And the reality is, let's just be honest, okay? So we're going to provide, 1.00
00:11:27.100 I know this is going to sound, you're going to be like, gay. We're going to provide a little 0.99
00:11:31.420 bit of nuance. I hate to even use the word. I hate to even use the word because nuance for
00:11:36.360 the longest time has just been a euphemism for cowardice, right? I'm a coward. I'm not going 0.97
00:11:40.700 actually say the blatant obvious truth, so I'm going to give so many disclaimers and so many
00:11:45.900 caveats that by the time I get done saying something that's generally true, I've basically
00:11:50.200 said nothing true at all, right? And it stems from cowardice. However, we're talking about
00:11:56.400 geopolitics, guys. We're talking about war. We're talking about different warring factions and
00:12:02.040 ideologies and Islam and Christianity and Judaism. You want to be courageous, and we're going to be,
00:12:09.380 by the grace of God and the power of the Spirit, we're going to be courageous. But we have to be
00:12:14.460 nuanced, because this is not simple. There's nothing simple about this. It's incredibly complex,
00:12:18.880 and we want to offer a perspective for you today that hopefully, by the grace of God, 0.96
00:12:24.060 will stand the test of time, and we won't look like idiots two weeks from now. Okay, so that being 0.95
00:12:28.980 said, here's the deal. Muslims are not our friends. I got to start with that. Here's the deal. 1.00
00:12:35.700 for 1,300 years, 1,300, 1,400 years, you need to be crusade maxing, okay? You need to read
00:12:42.620 Defenders of the West. You need to read Sword and Scimitar. You need to read God's Last Battalion.
00:12:46.720 You need to read Rodney Stark, Raymond Ibrahim, all these books that we all kind of in the new
00:12:53.000 Christendom, new Christian right sphere, we all read them back in, what was it, 2024, a couple
00:12:59.280 of years ago?
00:12:59.660 2003, 2024.
00:13:00.220 Yeah, exactly. So if you didn't read, if you didn't go through your phase where you read
00:13:04.180 R.R. Reno, right, and
00:13:06.040 Return of the Strong Gods. And when you read
00:13:07.880 Christopher Caldwell, despite some of the things
00:13:10.260 that we would disagree with, you know, and
00:13:12.060 the, what is it, the entitlement?
00:13:14.640 The Age of Entitlement. Age of Entitlement.
00:13:16.080 On the civil rights side. And then if you didn't go through your crusade
00:13:18.280 phase, right, and you're reading Raymond
00:13:20.180 Abraham. You've got like three different pins on your chest
00:13:22.200 all in different colors. And you just skipped
00:13:24.640 to hating Jews, right? 0.93
00:13:25.980 It's like, no, uh-uh. You don't get to do that. 0.70
00:13:28.280 You need to enter in through the gates.
00:13:30.460 You know, Jesus talks about those who 0.99
00:13:32.060 climb over the fence, you know, like
00:13:34.020 No, you need to enter through the narrow gates.
00:13:36.200 You need to come right, come correct.
00:13:39.020 You need to read about the Crusades.
00:13:41.960 You need to be crusade-maxing, all these things.
00:13:45.140 Here's the point. 0.99
00:13:45.780 The point is Islam is not a friend of Christianity. 0.99
00:13:50.520 It has never been a friend of Christianity. 0.98
00:13:53.820 Israel, Judaism, world Jewry, I would go so far. 0.99
00:13:57.660 That doesn't mean each and every Jewish individual,
00:13:59.720 but it does mean it's not just the government of Israel.
00:14:02.760 I understand that that's more palatable.
00:14:05.280 I understand that that's more defensible and provides for you plausible deniability.
00:14:11.580 Well, I'm just criticizing the government of Israel or Bibi Netanyahu or this or that. 0.98
00:14:16.100 No, guys, there are people who are not even Israeli citizens, but they are Jews,
00:14:22.700 and they have a particular affection for the nation state of Israel
00:14:26.720 because they instinctively know that if things hit the fan in the West,
00:14:30.420 they have somewhere to go back to.
00:14:32.020 That doesn't make these people malicious, but it does mean that their affections and
00:14:35.760 their allegiance is divided. 1.00
00:14:37.600 World Jewry is a conversation that needs to be had, and we understand the dangers of these 0.97
00:14:42.360 things. 1.00
00:14:42.700 We've spoken about them ad nauseum, and we're going to speak about it some more today.
00:14:46.480 That said, if you've seen some of our stuff about Israel, you've seen my book, Judeo-Christianity 0.98
00:14:52.120 as a heresy, and you're a Muslim, and you think, hey, these are my guys, you are sorely 0.54
00:14:57.280 mistaken. 0.98
00:14:58.140 um islam is a formidable enemy of christ and uh and and we are not um joining in alliance with 0.97
00:15:08.360 muslims uh that said muslims and jews for that matter and everybody else is made in the image 0.91
00:15:15.140 of god uh there's an innate dignity uh we wish the best for muslims in the middle east we we wish 0.95
00:15:21.580 the best for jews in the middle east but in both cases the best requires repentance and 0.99
00:15:28.020 turning to the Lord Jesus Christ. Now, there are many Christians, right? It's certainly not a 1.00
00:15:32.540 majority, but you're talking about 90 million people. It's different than Iraq. This is much 0.88
00:15:36.580 bigger. 90 million people in Iran, and you're talking about a lot of Christians. And if what
00:15:45.000 just took place actually lessens oppression and persecution for Christians, praise God. But the
00:15:51.000 reality is we have no guarantees that that's what's going to... This is different than Venezuela,
00:15:54.280 where we knew who was going to take the place
00:15:57.260 and we knew that they were going to be positive towards America
00:16:00.600 and, of course, positive towards Israel and all those kinds of things.
00:16:03.220 We don't know what the result of this is going to be.
00:16:05.800 It could go either way.
00:16:07.240 It could be really bad.
00:16:08.340 It could be really good.
00:16:09.300 And we're acknowledging that from the outset.
00:16:10.880 We're not just going to say, oh, this is definitively bad
00:16:13.080 and it's going to be terrible and blah, blah, blah.
00:16:14.760 And then, again, like I said, two weeks from now,
00:16:16.740 we have egg on our face because things actually work out positively.
00:16:20.300 So I think that there is a benefit,
00:16:23.360 or at least let's say it like this, a potential benefit and potentially a great significant
00:16:28.620 benefit for the people of Iran, those who are Muslims who have been oppressed by a totalitarian
00:16:33.660 regime, and especially those who are Christians who have been persecuted. It could be really good
00:16:38.340 for Iran. It certainly will. Every decision we ever make, we know it'll be really good for Israel. 0.98
00:16:44.760 But the question still remains, how is it good for us? How is it good for us? So I'm going to
00:16:49.300 turn it to Wesley and Antonio briefly, and we're going to carve out a little bit of a position here
00:16:53.840 and bring some of the facts, some of the numbers, some of the metrics. And then what we want to do,
00:16:57.560 because we have Kongman as a special guest, but instead of just going back and forth, I want to
00:17:01.460 get our position at the outset, since it's our channel and a lot of the people are our listeners.
00:17:06.360 So we want to get our position out, but then I want to give it to Kongman because he's going to
00:17:10.320 agree with us, but he's also going to disagree. And I want him uninterrupted. I know I'm talking
00:17:15.880 to myself. But uninterrupted, I want to give you like a straight 10, 15 minutes to just,
00:17:20.820 because it takes time. It's like, why can't you say it quick? I don't know, because I have thoughts
00:17:25.140 that are actually at a high level in complex and take more than 15 seconds to articulate.
00:17:30.080 So I want to give our position, then give your position uninterrupted, and then see where we
00:17:37.680 agree, where we disagree. And then we're going to definitely be taking super chats today. So
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00:18:18.520 on X. The handle is at Joel Webin, at Joel Webin. All right, Wes. The explicit stated reason that
00:18:23.980 the United States has entered this war, according to President Trump, is Iran's long history of
00:18:28.420 terrorism and funding of terrorism in the Middle East. And when it comes directly to Iranian,
00:18:33.840 the IRGC, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, them initiating direct action on U.S. military
00:18:40.220 bases, U.S. allies, you don't necessarily have that. But what you do have is a systematic
00:18:44.860 funding of proxies over the last 20 years that have explicitly carried out terrorist
00:18:49.160 attacks in the Middle East. From 2005 to 2011 in Iraq, explosive foreign penetrators killed
00:18:55.040 over 190 U.S. soldiers. Per declassified Pentagon documents, the U.S. officials have long assessed
00:19:00.340 that their IRGC was a key supplier and enablement of this capability.
00:19:05.000 2019, 2021, you had rocket attacks on the K-1 airbase in Iraq,
00:19:09.540 Camp Dahjie, north of Baghdad, and the Erbil International Airport in Iraq.
00:19:13.640 Some of them, one killed two U.S. personnel, another killed a coalition contractor.
00:19:17.680 In Syria, rockets and drones fired against U.S. positions in 2023.
00:19:21.640 There's a coordinated Iraq-Syria-Jordan proxy campaign, 2023 to 2024.
00:19:26.180 And so Iran has been always viewed as kind of the source of this funding,
00:19:29.140 the source of the suppliers. Because when you look at every other country in the Middle East,
00:19:32.460 they've been destabilized by civil war, fallen into different factions, whether it be Hezbollah
00:19:37.160 in the north, whether it be the Houthi rebels. They're not enabled at the type of scale that
00:19:41.860 Iran, a country of 90 million people with over a million member strong army, a nuclear enrichment
00:19:46.780 program, ballistic missiles, the only one capable of really funding and putting meat to the bones 0.81
00:19:51.460 of those operations has been Iran. Iran, since the 1979 Iranian Revolution and the installation
00:19:56.980 of the islamic regime there has hated america the chance of death to america they're not exaggerated 0.89
00:20:02.040 they hate us they hate america and they violated the terms of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty 0.94
00:20:07.080 that they signed which is their agreement we're not going to create any more bombs it would seem
00:20:12.080 three different sites if not more iran has engaged in systematically enriching uranium in order to 0.67
00:20:17.680 build nuclear weapons and then they would be the only islamic force in that region with nuclear 0.76
00:20:23.140 weapons. And I think we could all agree, don't love that. Don't love an Islamic nation, a big 1.00
00:20:29.260 nation with a lot of enemies around it saying, and in our back pocket, we've got a couple nukes. 0.96
00:20:33.540 And so President Trump laid out the reason we're going to war is this long history of state-sponsored
00:20:37.440 terrorism, this long history of antagonism towards the U.S., this long history of being
00:20:42.480 anti-Western, this long history of oppressing their people. As Christians specifically,
00:20:47.100 the church there has been growing, but they face brutal repression. Iran only recognizes of the
00:20:52.860 12 different ethnicities that are there, there are three of them that are historically Christian.
00:20:56.860 And those are actually, they are allowed to worship, they have some semblance of freedom.
00:21:00.240 But conversion from Islam over to Christianity is explicitly forbidden by law, punishable by up to
00:21:06.580 death. And these churches that are allowed to be recognized, Farsi, Persian, the language that's
00:21:11.320 spoken there in Iran is not allowed to be used to prevent conversions of native Iranians. And so
00:21:16.200 they've killed their people that have protested against the Ayatollah, they've persecuted 0.97
00:21:19.500 Christians. They've sponsored terrorism all over the region. And for those reasons and more, 0.64
00:21:23.780 President Trump finally came out and said, we're going to do it. We're going to strike leadership.
00:21:27.600 We're going to strike at their nuclear program. And we're going to strike their ballistic 0.97
00:21:31.040 missile program. And that would be kind of the strongest case I could make. Why is it in
00:21:35.800 America's interest? Because they have been an agent of chaos in the Middle East. Go ahead. 0.99
00:21:40.580 Yeah, no, that's great. I agree with that. And the problem is really is that Trump publicly
00:21:46.540 is kind of waffled on what exactly the purported objective is, right?
00:21:50.960 And so he's come out and he's released this six-minute video
00:21:53.060 where he says, we will stay there,
00:21:55.060 we will be on the offensive until our objectives are achieved.
00:21:58.740 And so at the beginning, the objective was their nuclear capabilities. 0.93
00:22:01.860 We don't want Iran to have nukes. 0.96
00:22:04.840 We don't want them to be able to threaten or leverage geopolitically 0.86
00:22:07.460 the fact that they have nukes.
00:22:08.900 Same thing Abraham Lincoln said.
00:22:10.700 I remember he was like, Iran is two weeks away from nukes.
00:22:13.840 Yeah. Yeah. But the point being, like when Trump says something like that, I think the majority of Americans can stand up and say, yeah, I agree with that, that they should not have nukes.
00:22:22.960 But then he'll say things like, Iran, take back your country, and basically implying, hey, we're partly doing this as an objective for regime change, and that means that the clerics and the body, the body of experts that they choose from to put the supreme leader into power, that that whole system has to change, and that objective is a lot more daunting.
00:22:46.880 And I think when you look at the polls, for example, looking at a Reuters poll or a Pew Research poll with respect to how Americans feel about American involvement in Iran, 80% say we don't like it.
00:22:58.260 I think the regime change element, the regime change objective, particularly is the thing that most Americans just can't get on board with.
00:23:05.780 Right.
00:23:05.980 I mean, because we just got done with that.
00:23:07.600 We just got done with that.
00:23:08.540 And Trump ran on a campaign saying you're going to get mass deportations.
00:23:13.860 We have not gotten everything that would benefit us domestically.
00:23:16.880 has ultimately fallen short it hasn't happened and then the things he promised not to do so he
00:23:22.460 promised i will do these things here they didn't materialize i won't do these things over there
00:23:28.380 and those things are materializing right no new wars no regime change no this no that we're getting
00:23:34.240 that all those things we're getting um the things he said he would do here in the united states
00:23:40.200 we're not getting. And that is incredibly frustrating. So let me finish our position
00:23:45.720 by just talking about Israel just for a moment. My concern is that although this could end up being 0.63
00:23:54.840 good for Iran and the people of Iran, and especially Christians in Iran, it's definitely 1.00
00:24:03.660 good for Israel. And in the Middle East, Iran was really the only country, right? You have 0.87
00:24:08.560 peace treaties between Egypt, Jordan as well. And so different countries where there are peace
00:24:15.040 treaties that Israel has, and then some of the countries that they're at odds with, that are
00:24:21.360 rivals. Well, of those countries that pose a threat to Israel, Iran was number one, number one by far. 0.90
00:24:28.100 It was the premier check and balance in the Middle East holding back Zionist power, or at least 0.87
00:24:34.240 minimizing it, mitigating it. With the board being cleared in Iran, if they are now off the table, 0.89
00:24:41.560 what it allows for is it could be good for the U.S., probably not, could more potential to be 0.76
00:24:46.980 good for Iranians, but it's definitely good for Israel. And this is not something that I'm saying 0.56
00:24:52.900 I'm predicting is going to happen in two weeks, right? I'm not going to sit here and say it's
00:24:56.920 going to happen overnight. But I see conceivably the potential with Iran no longer providing a 0.57
00:25:03.380 balance against Israeli power, that they could assume more geographic land, hegemony, power in 0.81
00:25:10.980 the Middle East, expanding their borders, which they have always wanted to do using the US military 0.67
00:25:15.320 in order to take out their enemies so that they can seize land. And then from that, building 0.95
00:25:20.980 resources, working out trade agreements with different people, maybe China, maybe India,
00:25:25.660 whatever it may be. And over time, again, not next year, but over decades, get to a place where
00:25:32.160 they're no longer dependent on us whatsoever, where they become a rival superpower in a
00:25:38.240 geographically strategic area, being able to side with some of our enemies. And I don't see how
00:25:46.280 setting the stage for even the potential, maybe it never happens, but setting the stage for even 0.90
00:25:50.860 the potential of Israel to become a rival superpower in decades to come to America,
00:25:57.340 i don't see how that benefits america i'm really struggling so that's my big long-term concern
00:26:03.640 uh long-term i'm not looking at this and saying um you know it'll for sure be bad for the christians
00:26:09.920 in iran maybe it will maybe it won't or it's for sure bad for us the reality is maybe the casualties
00:26:16.440 are small maybe it's quick right maybe in five days it's not iraq 2.0 right and you just have
00:26:21.960 to think like in five days from now if we're done and we're out and very few if any americans
00:26:28.720 actually die and there's good economic at least immediate benefits for us mark levin is going to
00:26:35.220 have a field day with the america first guys he says i told you he's going to be trying to rub
00:26:39.840 egg in our face and that's why we're saying this so that we don't paint a target on our chest and 0.70
00:26:45.280 make ourselves low-hanging fruit for the zionist shields yeah to use us as an example for why 0.98
00:26:50.460 america first and that movement is retarded we've got to be better than retarded so some of you guys 0.97
00:26:55.480 i can't believe you're saying this and why aren't why aren't you hating on the jews i've seen a 0.95
00:26:59.400 couple of accusations of being shills in the comments we're doing this because if you were
00:27:03.680 doing the podcast in the live stream right now you would be making mark levin's day well and can i
00:27:09.040 you're welcome actually here's an illustration that some people like who know sports might
00:27:13.420 understand if you imagine the your your number one bat your best basketball player on the team
00:27:17.740 he takes a shot from half court right right and the coach is saying no no no no bad shot
00:27:22.960 low percentage shot but then he makes it and the coach is like yes yes yes so so that's kind of
00:27:27.740 where the position we're at where america the best player on the team has just taken a shot
00:27:33.360 right that is a is a bad shot it's a low percentage shot it's more likely than not that it won't work
00:27:38.460 out why what do i look at history i look at the last five times america's tried to do regime
00:27:43.000 change, but there is a chance it goes in. And in that scenario where it goes in, we're going to
00:27:49.440 be the people who are saying like, oh yeah, bad shot, but I'm glad it worked out. Why am I glad
00:27:54.040 it worked out? Because I don't want the worst for America. And so we want to be wise and go on
00:27:58.040 public record today, acknowledging that that is a possible outcome so that our cause, the larger 0.87
00:28:04.960 long-term cause of America first and rooting out poisonous Zionism and the stranglehold that
00:28:12.660 israel has on our country so that if this half court shot actually swishes and goes in that the 0.97
00:28:20.560 zionist and neocons can't use it against us and say look you guys went on like no no no no rewind 0.54
00:28:26.480 the tape look at the disclaimers look at the caveats we acknowledge this possibility so in
00:28:32.120 the immediate could be good for iran probably won't be but might have some kind of tangible
00:28:38.100 benefit for us right so i see like 10 chance it's good for america and casualties and those kinds of
00:28:44.360 things are mitigated that's possible 50 chance it's really 50 50 for the iranian people whether
00:28:49.860 or not it's good and that's because the most likely successor without actually it's going to
00:28:53.740 be another guy factions in iran actually backing rebels actually backing those that are trying to
00:28:58.400 take power the most likely successor is going to be the irgc it's going to be another islamic 0.69
00:29:02.680 caliphate or it's going to be civil war and civil war will kill millions civil war will bring in 0.95
00:29:07.860 famine, it'll bring in bombings, it'll bring in all of these human rights violations. There's
00:29:12.380 very few scenarios where, especially the Christian base, the Iranian people, make it out well, and 0.97
00:29:17.220 that's just an objective statement of fact. They could, but most likely what fills the gap is the
00:29:21.440 existing security apparatus. So last thing, and then we're going to get Kongman's view, but what
00:29:25.500 is NXR? If anybody asks you, what is NXR Studio's official position? Our position is this. My
00:29:30.780 position is this. 10% chance, 10 to 20% chance it's good for America in the immediate. 50% chance
00:29:37.280 It's good for the Iranians in more of an intermediate, kind of middle-term timeline, 100% chance. 1.00
00:29:44.080 It's good for Israel immediately and long-term. 0.97
00:29:47.640 And benefiting Israel to this degree is, I think, a liability long-term for America.
00:29:54.300 So I don't like it. 0.98
00:29:55.680 It's a half-court shot.
00:29:56.960 I don't think we should have shot that shot.
00:29:59.360 Could go in the net.
00:30:00.820 Could benefit us a little bit economically in the brief timeline.
00:30:06.540 could benefit spiritually, politically, Iran in a more medium timeline, and definitely will
00:30:17.440 benefit Israel immediately and in a long timeline. And that should be a concern if you love our
00:30:25.320 country and see Israel's negative influence. So that's our position in a nutshell. Kongman, 0.99
00:30:30.820 what do you think? I want to preface this by saying that I'm not a geopolitics or foreign
00:30:35.980 policy expert by any means i think it's interesting but i don't speak out on him because you know i
00:30:41.120 know more about korean history i know more about christendom and christian history and
00:30:45.760 the american tradition and the christian political tradition in america but i think the biggest thing
00:30:52.200 that we have to understand is that this is a very nuanced and difficult situation because i think it
00:31:00.840 is because it's so volatile we don't know what's going to happen and so because we don't know what's
00:31:04.780 going to happen, we can't predict exactly how it's going to turn out. And so it's like that
00:31:09.220 half-court shot. I think that's a perfect analogy. But if it does go in, I do believe that if it does
00:31:14.580 go in, then it's like a buzzer beater. Like it really is a game winner. And why I say that is
00:31:19.200 because, for example, economically, 90% of Iran's oil exports go to China, 90%. And then 30%, I think
00:31:28.280 30 percent of chinese imports for oil come from iran so then if we're able to install a pro-american 0.86
00:31:35.080 regime in iran then yes it'll be objectively bad for our number one geopolitical threat at least 0.91
00:31:42.480 you know when it comes to economic competitor economic competitor china and we have an advantage 0.94
00:31:48.520 there we can bring in oil and iran has the third largest oil reserves in the world so and that's
00:31:55.020 estimated to be around like a trillion dollars in revenue for america and so there's a lot of
00:32:00.780 these economic benefits as well on top of crippling china because i think i do think
00:32:06.460 this is also nuanced that a lot of the anti-ccp and anti-china hatred in america especially among
00:32:13.240 the right wing it's a little overblown i think it is a little overblown because they're stuck
00:32:17.280 in cold war dynamics but at the same time they are a threat they are a foreign but also domestic 0.52
00:32:23.020 threat with a lot of the chinese nationals tied to with ties to the ccp in america in our college 0.97
00:32:28.200 campuses but objectively on that front it would be a an objective good now on top of that you know
00:32:34.140 west you're mentioning about uh you know iran being the number one state sponsor of terrorism
00:32:39.600 worldwide and yes with the axis of what do they call themselves the axis of evil or something
00:32:45.000 yeah whatever they call themselves depends on your source but yeah they fund hezbollah they fund
00:32:49.620 Hamas and these have been groups that have killed over a thousand Americans in the past few decades
00:32:54.980 so that is objectively a problem so all of these reasons the majority of Americans don't want war
00:33:01.400 in Iran because they don't see it as viable or necessary for American interests but when you
00:33:07.620 start to frame it in this way actually support for military action against Iran does go up
00:33:13.360 because you're able to frame it as better for America but also a defensive measure against
00:33:19.000 terrorism against americans now with all that being said that's all contingent on regime regime
00:33:25.240 change working yep but it's not it's it is so volatile and it's so unpredictable that we don't
00:33:31.640 know and iran is a country with 80 to 90 million people but 99 of iranians are muslim 99 so what
00:33:40.720 are the chances that the iranian people which yes there are a lot of them protesting but you know
00:33:46.520 the iranian regime previous regime uh killed tens of thousands of them what are the chances that
00:33:52.040 they want to install a pro-america pro-west and pro-christian because that's my priority as a
00:33:58.020 christian like nations that honor god and govern governing authorities that submit to christ that's
00:34:04.720 my priority ultimately but what are the chances and the chances are very slim and like west you
00:34:09.660 were saying the irgc is most likely going to be the main power that still controls most of iranian
00:34:17.140 politics and holds the reins in iran and so because of all of that it is it's i don't even
00:34:23.660 think it's a half-court shot i think it's a full-court shot it's the chances of it working
00:34:27.860 out is very very slim um and iran is not afghanistan it's not you know it's like twice the
00:34:34.760 size of texas humongous country it's mountainous right it's not flat like iraq and afghanistan so
00:34:41.140 there's so many different confounding factors that make it different than our never-ending wars in
00:34:46.120 the middle east of our other and previous excursions but that that's why i'm very very
00:34:52.220 skeptical of this and at the same time i do find the messaging to be very confusing where they say
00:34:56.740 iran poses an existential threat to america where yes they don't like america sure but also part of
00:35:02.260 is because America and Israel has been meddling in the Middle East for so long, right, in the late 0.72
00:35:06.600 1950s when they ousted the socialist leader, like the Iranians literally in one generation are like, 0.82
00:35:11.900 actually, no, we're going to take it back. So they hate it. And because America and Israel have been 1.00
00:35:18.680 the main destabilizers in the Middle East, that actually exacerbates tension and exacerbates
00:35:23.480 anti-American sentiments in the Middle East. And so, yes, we should have military installations
00:35:28.540 in the Middle East because we do want that area
00:35:30.400 to be pro-America, broadly speaking.
00:35:32.700 But I do think there's a lot of misplaced decisions
00:35:37.020 and unwise military action and political action
00:35:41.420 that's been taken in the Middle East.
00:35:43.120 And so all things considered,
00:35:44.260 I do think it is literally not 10,
00:35:46.240 I think you said 10%, Joel.
00:35:47.680 I think it's like a 1% chance
00:35:49.040 that this actually works out in our favor
00:35:51.780 in the ways that it eliminates the terrorist networks
00:35:54.520 funded by the Ayatollah.
00:35:57.820 it allows for a pro-american regime to come in and give all their oil reserves to america
00:36:03.760 i think it is very very slim and i do think that it was not a good decision to go and strike iran
00:36:11.220 and again like i was saying the messaging is very confusing they say that they pose an existential
00:36:16.680 threat but then they're also a paper tiger so how can that exist at the same time where oh
00:36:21.720 there's such a threat to America we have to go in and bomb them but oh it'll be easy because
00:36:27.820 they're just a paper tiger I don't know how that can exist at the same time also I find the 1.00
00:36:32.760 messaging for oh we need to liberate the Iranian people problematic from what oh so that we can 0.99
00:36:38.440 introduce feminism so we can introduce gay race communism you see all these videos online of 0.94
00:36:43.180 these Iranian diaspora women going like cheering on yeah freedom for women uh while they're really 0.97
00:36:49.260 skankly dressed and they don't look very modest and i'm like is that what we want i mean we see 1.00
00:36:55.160 how that destroyed america when we're exporting democracy and freedom that actually just means
00:37:00.660 degeneracy and ways of life that is apart from a departure from the law of god so um i don't think
00:37:07.900 that liberation of the iranian people which are iranian people should be a priority yes we should
00:37:12.900 want christians to be able to practice uh their faith in iran freely yes but the chances of that
00:37:20.200 being a stable government that is pro-america and pro-christian it is very slim and so i believe
00:37:25.420 that it wasn't a good decision but the reality is that the decision is made the decision is made
00:37:31.620 and so there's a lot of people who hate israel hate the jews and so they're going like i wish i
00:37:36.760 i hope iran has nukes and i hope they nuke america i'm like whoa whoa how are you supposed
00:37:41.680 to be america first and there's just this increased i would say low iq anti-semitism 0.60
00:37:46.960 that's happening where they hate israel and jews so much that any criticism of the iranian
00:37:51.120 government any criticism of uh islam is oh you're a zionist shill and i believe that
00:37:57.300 it's happened it wasn't a good decision but we are in iran at this point and we should pray for
00:38:02.980 and advocate for a swift swift victory over whatever it is and objectives whatever that is
00:38:08.140 and to pull out as soon as possible
00:38:11.240 with minimal, minimal casualties
00:38:13.280 and without boots on the ground
00:38:14.640 because there are technically no boots on the ground.
00:38:17.080 All the soldiers, I think four soldiers have died so far 0.86
00:38:19.580 and they are because of the attacks that Iran has lodged
00:38:23.240 against military installations in the Middle East
00:38:25.580 surrounding Iran.
00:38:27.200 So rest in peace to them. 0.88
00:38:28.380 And I do think any one person,
00:38:31.320 even if it's a small amount,
00:38:32.780 I think any American soldier
00:38:33.920 that is dying for wars for Israel is a casualty
00:38:36.100 and it is a tragedy that no one should be.
00:38:38.400 But at the same time, the reality is we're there right now.
00:38:40.960 And so what should we advocate for
00:38:42.960 and what should we desire moving forward?
00:38:45.460 And is that America is swift?
00:38:47.100 They do what they need to do
00:38:48.160 and get out as soon as possible.
00:38:49.720 Amen.
00:38:50.260 Very well said. 1.00
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00:40:01.880 All right, Wes, give us a few more thoughts, a few more details about what's going on,
00:40:06.460 and then I want to make sure we have plenty of time for Super Chats.
00:40:09.360 Well, I do want to highlight an angle.
00:40:10.660 We put Nick Fuentes on the thumbnail.
00:40:12.580 He's someone that very early on he called this, and his angle is unique,
00:40:16.080 and we talked about it in, I think it was the second episode that we released
00:40:19.220 in our special series with him, and it was the inner workings of world Jewry. 0.84
00:40:23.860 So why are we involved in Iran? 0.93
00:40:26.160 And there's all these different reasons, of course.
00:40:27.620 There's terrorism, all those things we talked about. 0.69
00:40:29.540 But most specifically, why we, the United States, have gone that way, there's a real element, and I would hesitate to attribute 100% or 90% of it, but there is an undeniable major element, and that is because American Jews have very much so lobbied the Republican Party on behalf of action in support of Israel. 0.68
00:40:48.060 If you remember, if you know your history, Jews have traditionally generally been left-wing,
00:40:52.280 whether this was communism in the early 1900s, even voting pattern-wise.
00:40:56.000 I believe over 80% of American Jews voted for Kamala Harris. 0.73
00:40:59.300 So the left has always been kind of the home of Jews.
00:41:02.700 There's more of a revolutionary spirit that they have. 1.00
00:41:05.140 They brag about it. Civil Rights Act? Terrible.
00:41:06.380 Civil Rights Act. 0.82
00:41:06.760 And they're like, oh, we did that. Yeah, Hartzeller Act? Look it up.
00:41:10.540 LGBTQ, we did that. I'm like, what?
00:41:13.320 Yeah, first transgender surgeries was a German Jew, Magnus Herschfeld.
00:41:16.860 they will literally say that even abortion is not just a virtue,
00:41:21.360 but they'll consider it a Jewish sacrament.
00:41:23.920 So how did all of those characters, all of those people, this group,
00:41:27.340 why did they come over to conservatives and to the Republican Party?
00:41:30.960 Well, as Nick laid it out, and he's right,
00:41:33.420 2023, in October 23, the American Jews were shocked when the left,
00:41:37.980 especially on college campuses, turned against the Jews and supported the Palestinians.
00:41:42.200 And this goes hand in hand with the revolutionary motif.
00:41:44.800 In this case, the oppressor-oppressed paradigm, it wasn't Jews being oppressed in Eastern Europe or being oppressed in pogroms.
00:41:50.820 It was the poor Palestinians that were getting raked over the coals by Israel's response to October 7th.
00:41:56.680 So these left-wing Jews were shocked that the left kind of turned on them,
00:42:01.000 that these young radical activists on these leftist college campuses,
00:42:04.140 as well as a lot of the professors, the presidents, the staff, and the faculty,
00:42:09.400 were kind of sympathetic to the Palestinians.
00:42:11.360 They were sympathetic for those cries of from the river to the sea.
00:42:15.200 And so you saw this shift, and Nick picked it up, and he saw it as well.
00:42:18.340 He looked at where the money was going.
00:42:19.660 He looked at where the support was going.
00:42:21.220 And going into Trump's campaign, Bernard Marcus, co-founder of Home Depot,
00:42:25.800 big support of pro-Israel efforts like AIPAC, Paul Singer, Jan Combe, David Zalek,
00:42:31.980 the Adelson, so Sheldon Adelson has passed.
00:42:34.060 He was a big supporter in Trump's first term.
00:42:35.480 But Miriam Adelson, these American Jews heavily invested in the Republican Party
00:42:41.200 becoming, winning the presidency, winning the Senate, and winning the House. And it's that 0.75
00:42:45.720 element, again, we don't know exactly to what degree. We don't know what else is involved,
00:42:50.240 but it's undeniable that at some level, American Jews have lobbied again and again and again
00:42:54.920 for the president, whoever that may be, whether it be Barack Obama, whether it be
00:42:59.020 Donald Trump, get involved, do our bidding for us. And so whose behalf is this on? Well,
00:43:05.540 we look and we see that the majority of Americans, they don't want this involved.
00:43:09.860 80% were pulled and said, we don't want a war in Iran.
00:43:13.860 Republicans are about 55%, and a lot of that would be your older kind of boomer constituency.
00:43:18.400 But all said and done, Democrats, Republicans, independents, it's one in four.
00:43:22.200 It's like 27%.
00:43:23.140 So Americans didn't want it.
00:43:24.720 Now, the thing we did want was mass deportations.
00:43:27.360 And I'm sympathetic to the struggle.
00:43:30.140 It's not easy to take 10 million people and get them out of a country.
00:43:33.720 But in L.A., I mean, as a baseline, the first year.
00:43:38.560 Yeah, we need to 10x the 10.
00:43:41.000 But we got beat in Los Angeles.
00:43:42.860 You saw rioters waving Mexican flags, pelting LAPD officers with bricks off of bridges in Minneapolis.
00:43:50.020 What has happened?
00:43:50.680 The Trump administration withdrawn.
00:43:52.280 So we've withdrawn in L.A., we've withdrawn in Minneapolis, we've lost on the domestic front,
00:43:56.880 the SAVE Act doesn't look like it's being passed, and those are all vastly popular.
00:44:01.200 The majority of Americans support ID in federal elections.
00:44:04.180 The majority of Americans, Trump was elected, even the first term, the Syrian civil war displaced millions of refugees across Europe and across the United States.
00:44:12.360 And his first term, he was saying no to these refugees, no to mass immigration. 0.90
00:44:16.380 So the majority of Americans want that. 0.99
00:44:18.240 They wanted it in 2016.
00:44:19.480 They wanted it in 2024.
00:44:20.820 But the things that we want have not been put at the forefront. 0.79
00:44:23.740 And yet the donor base, the elites, American Jews that have lobbied for years to get this done, they actually got what it is they wanted. 0.73
00:44:32.100 And once again, who got left at the bottom? 0.81
00:44:35.060 Americans.
00:44:36.080 The evangelical, white evangelicals that put him into office statistically.
00:44:39.940 What did we get?
00:44:41.200 Zero.
00:44:41.900 Nothing. 1.00
00:44:42.160 Immigration is still continuing. 1.00
00:44:43.920 No IDs in federal elections. 0.91
00:44:45.800 And again, I'm sympathetic that these are not the matter of pushing the button.
00:44:49.060 But where there is a will, there is a way.
00:44:51.400 And it seems the will is behind, as it turns out, the will of the donors who put him into the White House.
00:44:56.120 That's right.
00:44:56.800 Go ahead.
00:44:57.180 I was just going to say, I've been hearing that Tim Walsh has some nuclear aspirations for a nuclear arsenal.
00:45:05.480 Minnesota is literally like two weeks away from nuclear.
00:45:09.260 I've heard India is as well. 0.86
00:45:11.020 We have to be saying. 1.00
00:45:11.980 Honestly, that's the biggest tragedy.
00:45:13.460 It's like all these tax dollars being used against Iran when we could be bombing India.
00:45:18.180 That's heartbreaking.
00:45:19.880 No, but seriously, I said this with Venezuela and I said this with Iran. 0.97
00:45:23.780 If we have the capability of using the U.S. military for regime change in foreign countries, why can we not go in and deport the foreign invaders that's happening that are here on American soil? 0.97
00:45:40.660 Like, why can we not put a stop to the foreign invasion? 0.98
00:45:44.220 And you can chalk up the benefits of Iran and foreign excursions all you want. 0.99
00:45:50.100 And I think there is room to be, yeah, like, actually, maybe there is potential benefit for Americans. 0.83
00:45:56.020 But the order of operations matters. 1.00
00:45:58.860 And like we saw in Austin yesterday with the mass shooting with the Muslim, 0.92
00:46:04.000 Sanghalese, 53-year-old, naturalized citizen, right? 0.60
00:46:08.600 He was radicalized by what America is doing and Israel is doing in Iran. 0.96
00:46:14.220 But he shouldn't have been here in the first place. 0.94
00:46:17.120 And he was also a naturalized citizen, which is also a conversation to be had where legal immigration is actually maybe far more harmful than illegal because at least the illegals, you can get them out. 0.96
00:46:30.200 They have no legal standing here, but with legal, they're protected by law. 0.77
00:46:34.760 And so we do have to have a broader conversation of not only mass deportations of illegals, but also denaturalization and deportations of people who hate America, hate its history, hate its founding, hate its culture, hate our God.
00:46:48.300 And that's a conversation to be had.
00:46:49.900 But the order of operations matters.
00:46:51.580 And this is what makes a lot of right wingers and a lot of patriots frustrated about the Trump administration is that you have the resources and you have the energy to focus on Venezuela, on Iran.
00:47:04.580 but literally our country is being invaded like america there is a foreign invasion happening on
00:47:11.240 american soil that in any other period in history any country would have been justified in going to
00:47:17.540 war to protect their own country and i'm not saying that we should advocate for political violence 0.68
00:47:21.080 or that i want war in this country but it is not hateful and it is not wrong to deport those who
00:47:28.160 are illegal mass deport tens of millions but also those who are naturalized american citizens yes
00:47:33.940 but their allegiance lies with a foreign state their allegiance lies elsewhere especially with
00:47:39.140 foreign adversaries of america they have no business being an american citizen and in america's
00:47:44.420 past we have revoked citizenship from many people because they were communists because they were
00:47:49.100 traitors and we have literally people in congress in uh you know positions of leadership in our
00:47:56.880 states governors city council members who are avowedly and openly brazenly loyal to other
00:48:04.840 countries than america you saw rashida talib yesterday say uh u.s and israel are doing this
00:48:10.520 in iran this is who they are right they rashida talib does not consider herself an american so
00:48:17.200 if you don't consider yourself an american then you have no business being here and so i do think
00:48:22.180 that we need to continually push and yes the trump during first uh the first year trump's
00:48:27.100 administration there was a net negative amount of migration great but there's a very short time
00:48:33.300 frame that's right in which we can achieve mass deportations when we control the house the senate 0.82
00:48:38.540 the white house and if you want to say the supreme court as well which you know the supreme court has
00:48:42.520 been working against trump so that's a whole nother conversation but yeah like we need to really 0.92
00:48:47.780 really be okay with taking mass political action to deport foreign invaders because if we don't do 0.92
00:48:53.660 it now then it'll never get done and we have a limited time frame to do so and so this is i
00:48:58.720 think the biggest contention that a lot of people um disenfranchised and disillusioned by the current
00:49:03.480 trump administration have and i think they're correct i think we should focus more and the
00:49:07.560 number one sole priority the first second third priority of the trump administration and the gop
00:49:12.480 has to be mass deportations everything else yes geopolitics matters because geopolitics and foreign
00:49:18.480 policy dictate where we got our resources and all these things right but the the number one priority
00:49:22.880 has to be has to be mass deportations everything else from wanting to abolish abortion from wanting 1.00
00:49:28.840 to protect our children from the scourge of transgenderism and this radical gender ideology 0.97
00:49:32.820 from securing jobs for americans and the future of americans to have safe neighborhoods again 0.99
00:49:38.400 And all these things are downstream from mass immigration.
00:49:42.100 If mass immigration did not happen, Zoran Mamdani would not be the mayor of New York City,
00:49:46.900 one of America's, if not America's greatest city, and all these things.
00:49:49.980 And so this is the number one priority, and it has to be the number one priority.
00:49:54.420 Everything else is secondary.
00:49:55.760 Yeah, well said.
00:49:56.620 So this is the way it works.
00:49:58.160 If you're not aware, you need to be aware.
00:50:00.220 MAGA has become the neocons.
00:50:02.800 MAGA, there's really no difference. 0.91
00:50:05.540 Right-wing Jews push for war in the Middle East and get us involved. 0.89
00:50:08.980 Left-wing Jews then open the doors to Toledo and say, hey, all the refugees, they need 0.88
00:50:13.400 to come here. 1.00
00:50:14.380 The boomer slop of, well, we've got to fight Muslims over there so that they don't have 1.00
00:50:19.380 to come, you know, and we have to fight them here. 1.00
00:50:22.480 The irony, tragic irony, is that it's too late.
00:50:26.020 That's already happening.
00:50:26.820 By our involvement in Iran, we are agitating Muslims who are already here because Jewish 0.99
00:50:34.000 policies, let them here. And you already have mass shootings happening just over the weekend 0.98
00:50:39.640 in a bar in Austin. And it's Muslims. So stabbing and shooting as well on the DC beltway that 1.00
00:50:45.680 happened. So you have agitated Muslims who are here. We are actually going to have to fight here. 1.00
00:50:50.900 And they're agitated because of our involvement fighting another war for Israel in the Middle 0.63
00:50:57.160 East, and they're here because Jewish influence pushed for policies towards immigration. So the 0.54
00:51:04.820 Muslims are already here because Jews let them in. And now that we're fighting another war for 1.00
00:51:10.180 Israel in the Middle East, it's agitating those Muslims who are here, and they are doing damage 1.00
00:51:14.820 on American soil. That's what's going on. And sadly, with all the high hopes that many had for 1.00
00:51:21.740 MAGA in this second administration right now with Trump. He is, in some sense, indistinguishable,
00:51:29.800 at least as it comes to the Middle East, from the neocons and fighting, once again, another war.
00:51:36.320 And we pray to God, by his grace, that our sons, and because we're such a wicked nation,
00:51:41.160 we put women in war, that our daughters, as well, will not have to go and die in the desert for 0.73
00:51:46.720 Israel. So all that being said, my biggest concern, again, is long-term clearing the board,
00:51:53.000 taking out one of the chief checks and balances, Iran, when it comes to the Middle East towards 0.96
00:51:57.120 Israeli power that sets the stage for the potential, it may not happen, but the potential 0.75
00:52:01.580 for Israel to become a superpower in the Middle East that would rival America and that over the 0.97
00:52:07.160 future that they would do incalculable harm towards our nation and our prosperity. To me, 0.98
00:52:14.480 that is the biggest concern, because I actually care about America. I'm not MIGA, Israel first, 0.99
00:52:20.540 making Israel great again, but truly being America first, America only. And so that's my big concern 0.75
00:52:28.660 looking long term is, are we setting the stage, and I think we are, may not be our goal, but I 0.98
00:52:34.060 think it very likely could become the outcome, setting the stage for Israel's advancement, 0.89
00:52:38.940 that they could become a rival superpower to the United States.
00:52:42.480 I think that that is a huge concern. 0.97
00:52:45.220 Whether or not it's good for Iran, it's 50-50,
00:52:47.660 and whether or not it's good for us,
00:52:49.140 even in the immediate, is an extremely rare chance.
00:52:52.820 All right, so I'll give it to you,
00:52:55.140 but then we want to go ahead and get to some of the super chats.
00:52:58.380 If you have something that you want to say,
00:53:00.280 go ahead and get it in now.
00:53:01.540 We take super chats both on Rumble and on YouTube.
00:53:04.000 Go ahead.
00:53:04.540 I was just going to say, I am very sympathetic.
00:53:06.700 Richard Wurmbrand was a priest that was tortured.
00:53:09.340 He wrote a book, Tortured for Christ, by the Romanian communists for 10 years.
00:53:12.980 And they actually told stories in the camps that they would say,
00:53:15.160 maybe this will be the year the Americans come.
00:53:17.320 I'm very sympathetic to this idea that's pervaded our history,
00:53:20.140 that we are the global peacekeepers.
00:53:21.860 And whether it's Christians being persecuted in Nigeria,
00:53:24.000 or communism as it expanded during the Cold War,
00:53:26.260 that America is the hope of the world that will come to save those who are downtrodden,
00:53:30.700 those who are persecuted, those who are tortured, especially Christians.
00:53:33.880 That really resonates with me.
00:53:34.900 That's a beautiful image, and we have the military to do it.
00:53:37.920 We have the world's greatest military, and what better use of it 0.99
00:53:41.100 than to go bomb Muslims and communists that are torturing and hating 1.00
00:53:45.160 and killing Christians in the name of Jesus. 1.00
00:53:47.400 So I love that as a foreign policy, the only thing is you have to have 0.99
00:53:50.900 your own house in order first.
00:53:52.580 When our house is in order, we can intervene, and I actually think
00:53:55.580 it would be awesome and God-glorifying to do so.
00:53:58.440 Do not persecute the true Israel, the real Israel, which is those 0.99
00:54:02.100 who have faith in christ or america will fly a b-52 and bomb your ass right praise god that'd 0.99
00:54:07.200 be however in our nation here where our sons are dispossessed when violent criminals that are here 1.00
00:54:12.580 illegally raping murdering women we have no business worrying about that let's get them out
00:54:17.820 first and then we get to do all these wonderful things on behalf of god's people and it glorifies 0.85
00:54:22.640 god but neglecting your house to do all of those things with with tentative benefit that's not
00:54:28.540 glorifying to God at all. Get your own house in order first, and then we can be the global peace
00:54:32.860 keeper the world needs. 100%. Very well said. Okay, one more time. Please go ahead and subscribe
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00:57:43.940 All right. Welcome back. We're going to go ahead and get into Super Chats here. And I'm going to
00:57:47.160 start off with Liberty Republic on Rumble. They sent in $10 and asked a question. It said,
00:57:51.920 Joel, do you know of any good churches in the DC area? I'm new to Christianity and I was considering
00:57:56.500 Christ Church DC, but your discussions about Doug Wilson on Tucker gave me second thoughts.
00:58:01.280 What do you think, Joel?
00:58:01.840 He asked it directly to you.
00:58:04.100 None.
00:58:05.380 I mean, that's my thought.
00:58:09.180 Capitol Hill Baptist is there, Mark Dever.
00:58:11.760 If you just want good gospel preaching, then Dever is faithful on that,
00:58:16.900 and he's fairly good at ecclesiology and church polity and some of those things.
00:58:21.820 So if you're just looking for someone who's going to preach the gospel faithfully,
00:58:25.520 then you could go to the Christ Church, CREC Church, you could go to Dever's Church,
00:58:29.640 but you just need to be aware that whether it's Nine Marks with Dever or whether it's
00:58:34.100 the CREC and that particular church, when it comes to some of the cultural issues, 0.97
00:58:42.540 when it comes to some of the political issues, Mark Dever is going to be absolutely trash, 1.00
00:58:48.720 truly, I mean truly trash. The CREC will be better in terms of like left versus right, 0.97
00:58:54.320 you know, Democrat, Republican kind of dynamic, Dever will be bad on that. You won't be able to
00:59:01.120 tell whether or not he's a Republican or a Democrat, if he's right, or if he's left on
00:59:04.540 cultural issues, anything. The CREC church will be clear on that. They'll be more conservative
00:59:09.380 in that regard. But the CREC has made that calculus to ultimately what it really comes down to. And
00:59:17.780 this is not slander. It's perfectly true by the horse's mouth. Doug Wilson has explicitly said
00:59:24.120 that Christian nationalism is not something that we will be able to actually achieve unless we
00:59:29.400 partner with the Jews. That's his view. So for him, it's either a total secular leftist takeover 0.91
00:59:36.220 or Judeo-Christian nationalism. I'd like Christian nationalism. Best I can do is Judeo-Christian 0.72
00:59:41.400 nationalism. That is the CRC's position. That doesn't mean each and every individual CRC church
00:59:46.340 agrees with Doug, but Doug is massively influential, Doug Wilson. And so I would say
00:59:52.720 that if you're a part of that
00:59:54.660 church, they're going to have some good
00:59:56.620 conservative stuff on the cultural things, they're going to have good
00:59:58.800 biblical gospel
01:00:00.620 preaching, but on some
01:00:02.680 of the political things, especially as it comes
01:00:04.780 to the Judeo influence,
01:00:06.780 they're bought and paid
01:00:08.700 for. And you need to be aware. And then Dever,
01:00:10.840 you'll have some good preaching, exegesis
01:00:12.840 and gospel, but 0.98
01:00:14.560 he's going to be bad on the Judeo
01:00:16.720 thing, politically and culturally.
01:00:19.680 He's going to be
01:00:20.700 no better than Tim Keller.
01:00:24.360 I mean, he's like,
01:00:25.520 you will be left questioning.
01:00:27.320 You could be there for 10 years
01:00:28.720 and you'll be like,
01:00:29.300 is he a Democrat or a Republican?
01:00:31.280 Yeah, you won't know.
01:00:32.140 I do appreciate how the Overton window
01:00:33.700 has shifted so far to the right
01:00:35.060 that Doug Wilson,
01:00:36.200 who used to be considered far right
01:00:37.740 two, three years ago,
01:00:38.800 is now considered not far right enough.
01:00:41.140 So that's good.
01:00:41.860 I think I appreciate Doug Wilson's ministry
01:00:43.740 and what he's done,
01:00:44.480 but I do think he gets this issue
01:00:46.360 particularly incorrect
01:00:47.640 where, yes, like we just need
01:00:50.300 christianity like that's all we need truly and obviously we need to have other tertiary things
01:00:55.320 to consider and extra biblical philosophies and things like that that are in line with traditional 0.80
01:01:00.720 christian doctrine sure uh but we cannot partner with those who you know blaspheme in the name of
01:01:07.900 christ that's right and those who believe what fellowship does light have with darkness yeah and 0.90
01:01:11.420 those who believe that our lord our god is you know burning in hell right in poop and that's
01:01:18.080 just something that i cannot get behind because christ is truly king like he is lord jesus is 0.93
01:01:23.860 lord he is king he is master over all things and all governing authorities should submit to him
01:01:29.800 and even our laws our laws should submit to the will and the law of god yeah and so yeah like
01:01:36.360 these are people who reject christ and you guys talk about this all the time so i'm you know
01:01:40.240 speaking to the choir here but they are people who said may his blood be on our hands and our
01:01:45.380 descendants. And so these are not people where we don't have to be malicious or cruel to them,
01:01:50.200 but yeah, they are not particularly our allies, and they are just using Christians to achieve 0.99
01:01:58.560 their means. And as Christians, we should stand firm in the Word of God and in truth,
01:02:02.760 and knowing that the Lord is going before us, and we have nothing to fear.
01:02:06.620 Right. Yeah. On that note, if you want to brush up on some of the receipts and the reasons why
01:02:13.580 Judeo-Christianity is absolutely false. I had the privilege of writing a book with my co-author,
01:02:21.440 Jordan Hall, and it's right over there on the shelf. It's probably hard to see, but it's called
01:02:25.180 The Hyphenated Heresy. The Hyphenated Heresy's subtitle is Judeo-Christianity. So me and Jordan
01:02:31.700 Hall, we wrote this, and it's got a lot of footnotes, right? So it's not just giving you
01:02:35.980 the information, but it gives you actually the receipts proving the arguments that we make. 0.68
01:02:39.880 The Hyphenated Heresy Judeo-Christianity. You can check it out on Amazon. We just published it
01:02:45.380 January 2nd is when we launched the book, so it's only been a couple months. And by God's grace,
01:02:50.860 it's already sold over 3,500 copies. So we're really, really, really humbled by that. But
01:02:56.740 check it out. The Hyphenated Heresy Judeo-Christianity. All right, now we've got some 0.80
01:03:00.620 super chats from YouTube. Antonio, can you take the first one? Yep. Roger Stone sent $10. Thanks
01:03:06.020 for that and says, I want to know how specifically this can spiral into a global conflict involving
01:03:10.660 China, Russia, and other Iranian allies that combat U.S. allies like the U.K. and Saudi Arabia.
01:03:17.520 This is a good question. I'm sure everyone's sort of, this is circulating in everyone's mind,
01:03:21.780 which is like, what is the likelihood that World War III is what emerges from this conflict,
01:03:26.500 specifically this bombing of Iran, this war with Iran? I think it's really low. So I was just
01:03:32.780 looking into this. So the foreign ministry of Russia, they've obviously come out and they've
01:03:35.860 condemned the attack in Iran. They're obviously friendly with the regime. And they basically
01:03:40.040 accused the US of hiding behind the nuclear facility argument really just to install a new
01:03:45.680 regime. China likewise has come out and said, hey, we disagree with this. But in both cases,
01:03:50.720 between China and Russia, and those are the countries we should be most concerned with as
01:03:54.800 far as geopolitical rivals go. In both cases, they've said they want to see a diplomatic
01:04:00.460 solution. So I think the most likely scenario is China, Russia, come to the table, and they want
01:04:05.240 to help broker peace. And specifically, they're going to seek that the existing regime remain in
01:04:11.280 power in Iran, because that's the regime that they're friendly with. If it becomes a pro-West 0.54
01:04:14.880 regime, they are on the losing end of the deal. And you have to remember, and this is really,
01:04:19.220 geopolitics is like a chess game. You have to remember that there's other pieces on the board.
01:04:24.380 So right now, obviously, Russia is engaged in a war with Ukraine, and Russia doesn't really want
01:04:28.740 to tick off America because Russia wants America to help Russia negotiate the end of the war in
01:04:34.080 Ukraine, and particularly in a sense that's favorable to them. So Russia doesn't want to
01:04:38.260 go in full steam ahead and say, hey, yes, we're big weapons traders or weapons suppliers for Iran,
01:04:43.920 and we're just going to go full throttle on the Iranian regime. They don't want to tick off
01:04:47.540 America. They kind of want to play both sides here. So they probably are going to come in and
01:04:52.020 say, hey, America, you're going to get some concessions. Israel, you're going to get some 0.64
01:04:55.440 concessions. But as a consequence, we want some concessions as well in Ukraine. And we want you
01:05:00.700 guys to give a little favor to us there. And then likewise, China and the whole Hong Kong thing,
01:05:06.520 and I'm not an expert here, but you can also imagine there's a scenario in which China is
01:05:10.540 like, hey, you get what you want in Iran, but we get what we want in Hong Kong. And so there's a
01:05:14.100 lot of pieces on the board. No one really wants a full scale global conflict. And so the most
01:05:18.740 likely scenario is there's going to be some give and take. Yes, Russia and China will continue to
01:05:24.460 sort of implicitly back Iran. And honestly, the only reason Iran's still going strong, like Iran's 0.96
01:05:30.840 foreign minister just came out and said, we will not negotiate with the US. And the only reason
01:05:34.760 he can say that is because his weapons supplier is in Russia. And so we have to recognize that
01:05:41.240 it's going to be a little tricky and complicated, given that this is becoming more or less a proxy
01:05:45.940 war in the Middle East. And most likely scenario is that we're going to see brokered peace here
01:05:51.720 probably in the next couple weeks or so.
01:05:54.100 Yep.
01:05:54.580 All right.
01:05:55.340 One more super chat.
01:05:56.460 This is from PeteB773.
01:05:59.060 He said, you, he's talking to me,
01:06:01.140 should have asked E. Michael Jones,
01:06:03.560 who you just had,
01:06:05.740 we just had him on the show,
01:06:07.820 about Christians in Iran since he was actually there.
01:06:11.740 And he basically, E. Michael Jones was there
01:06:16.000 and he's arguing that Christians
01:06:18.060 were not actually being persecuted in Iran
01:06:20.340 And quite to the contrary, the Christians were treated with respect.
01:06:25.320 I've got a study up here, so it totally depends what years that you're looking at.
01:06:29.160 Persecution always, even in Rome, the early church had ebbed and flowed.
01:06:32.400 But since the 12-day war in 2025, so a report came out, documents 254 arrests of Christians
01:06:38.900 for being Christians in 2025, nearly double the record of the previous years.
01:06:42.860 Rights advocates say the surge reflected a strategic shift by the Islamic Republic to
01:06:46.480 use national security frameworks to crush religious dissent.
01:06:50.060 And as we articulated earlier on, there's three ethnic groups that have been historically Christian that are state protected.
01:06:55.280 They're allowed to have churches.
01:06:56.180 They're allowed to worship.
01:06:57.180 They're not allowed to do so and hold those services in Farsi, the native language of the land there, ancient Persian.
01:07:02.780 But those ethnicities are protected. 0.93
01:07:04.980 But again, for anyone else converting, it's really bad. 0.81
01:07:07.400 And since the war that just happened in 2025, Iran has built up and gone to war and said, hey, we're going to bring more of these people in for interrogation, for questioning. 0.93
01:07:16.020 We're throwing women in jail. 0.54
01:07:17.440 We're giving them sentences that are 15, 20 years long.
01:07:21.200 So certainly he could have visited, and the Ayatollah at the time,
01:07:24.400 there wasn't a lot of Christian persecution going on. 0.95
01:07:26.200 It was steady Eddie, the status quo.
01:07:29.420 But most certainly, and especially with the protests that are happening,
01:07:32.420 for one, to their own citizens that are protesting, crackdown.
01:07:35.480 And to Christians we've seen in the last year as well, crackdown by the regime.
01:07:38.240 Yep. So pro-Muslim anti-Semitism is just low IQ slop, 0.97
01:07:43.600 and it won't be tolerated on our channel. 0.93
01:07:45.640 I'm sorry and if we disappoint you and if we lose followers, so be it 0.95
01:07:49.740 But we are not pro-muslim. We are pro-christian. We are christian. Yes, unapologetically. So
01:07:56.180 I think that here in the year of our lord 1.00
01:07:59.600 2026 in these united states zionism is a bigger problem than islam 1.00
01:08:04.400 I'll say that again. I think that zionism is a bigger problem substantially significantly. So i've been clear about that 1.00
01:08:11.780 I make no apology. But the fact that I think Zionism is a bigger problem, and I'm confident 1.00
01:08:17.040 about that, does not mean that I am on the same team with Muslims. I'm sorry. Muslims hate Christians. 1.00
01:08:25.420 They do. And we have 1,300 years of proof. What do you think the Crusades were about? What do you 1.00
01:08:33.420 think was going on? So this is the kind of low-hanging fruit where we paint a target on our
01:08:39.300 own chest for us to get clowned on and dragged publicly forever you want to win and not just
01:08:48.320 larp but you actually want to win you need to make reasoned arguments and if you get up and start
01:08:54.460 publicly saying on the internet muslims are are friends of christians and they're great and we've
01:09:02.420 never really had any beef it's all just been a sigh up the crusades didn't even happen that 1.00
01:09:06.360 that that was made up by zionist jews you know to like then you're an idiot you're an idiot and 1.00
01:09:12.880 you're not going to win so zionism is i think the most formidable enemy of christian nationalism 1.00
01:09:19.540 here in the west i believe that i really do um but because i am a christian nationalist 0.95
01:09:25.800 and because i want to win i want a christian nation that is free of zionist control and i 0.96
01:09:33.140 want a world and the Western Christian civilization to be free of world Jewry, which is real, and it 0.88
01:09:40.740 is a real problem. Because of that, and because I'm committed to that cause, I refuse to shoot 1.00
01:09:48.320 myself in the foot by saying retarded things like Muslims are pro-Christ. That is retarded. 1.00
01:09:55.860 You will not beat Zionism by saying, giving in to all of the propaganda, pro-Islamic propaganda. 1.00
01:10:06.760 That's not a winning strategy against Zionism because it's not true.
01:10:11.260 You will ultimately be found out.
01:10:13.540 You will have egg on your face. 0.97
01:10:15.520 And Mark Levin, if you are promoting Muslim countries, you're promoting Islam to stick 0.99
01:10:23.980 it to the jews mark levin loves you you and and you probably are getting paid by the zionist and 0.95
01:10:31.920 if you're not you should write a sternly worded email because you should be getting royalties
01:10:36.520 like seriously is like if you're not being paid by by bibby by netanyahu um and you're uh pushing
01:10:44.500 forward and promulgating pro-islamic talking points to stick it to the zionist and israel's
01:10:50.060 not paying you you you should raise hell because the worker is worthy of the wages and you should 0.69
01:10:56.180 be getting paid by israel because you are doing their bidding you may not think you are but you 0.80
01:11:01.260 are all right that'll do it for us go ahead just two things just want to add benefit of being a
01:11:06.120 live show so first thing yes when i was when i was i saw someone in the chat say did i mean taiwan
01:11:10.760 not hong kong yes i meant taiwan when i was referring to the chess pieces on the board so
01:11:14.400 it'd be taiwan and the war in ukraine but also just per the uh wall street journal trump says
01:11:19.660 Iran strikes to continue for four to five weeks. And so this has just come out and it looks like
01:11:25.080 they're actually changing the rhetoric a little bit because the four main objectives that he
01:11:28.240 listed, regime change was left out. So I think they're picking up that Americans are not happy
01:11:34.120 about that and they're going to go in a little bit more specific direction. So more to come out
01:11:39.220 about that soon. Kongman, any final words? I do think that we need to continue to chimp out
01:11:44.220 because the reality is uh say what you will about the trump administration they are listening
01:11:50.520 like they do listen to the american people and they have a pulse on what americans want and don't
01:11:54.720 want and so if you continue to chimp out uh things will turn for the better now uh does that mean
01:12:01.060 that we should always black pill we shouldn't always black pill either but we shouldn't always 0.89
01:12:04.380 white pill and say oh everything's great everything's under control patriots in control 0.82
01:12:09.880 got what i voted for yeah i think we need to continue to chimp out and people call me a
01:12:15.180 traitor they call me they call me all kinds of things i get called design a shill and then i
01:12:18.980 get called a traitor and all these things but ultimately uh our eyes are on it should be on
01:12:26.000 mass deportations 100 to continue to advocate for that and i think going back to what you said
01:12:31.800 uh i think as people on the right and especially christians on the right we need to be better at
01:12:37.120 being more sober-minded, level-headed, tactful, and precise in what we believe and how we navigate
01:12:44.040 the world because I actually used to be a Zionist. I used to be a Zionist. I used to be a
01:12:47.560 dispensationalist, and I bought into all the normie evangelical points. But the reason why I was so
01:12:52.620 reluctant to give that up was because I saw how the left was acting, and I saw how a lot of people
01:12:57.360 were siding with Muslims. A lot of anti-Zionists and anti-Israel people were siding with Muslims,
01:13:03.560 And as a Christian, I'm saying, hey, I don't believe in Islam. 0.90
01:13:06.020 I don't like Islam. 1.00
01:13:07.100 And I won't side with Muslims because they are the number one persecutors and aggressors 1.00
01:13:11.960 against Christians worldwide. 1.00
01:13:13.780 So yeah, but then what won me over to the arguments and to the truth about what's going 0.52
01:13:18.000 on in the world and the truth regarding Israel and the proper Christian traditional understanding
01:13:22.760 of the Jews is reasoned arguments, sound arguments.
01:13:27.380 And so yes, there is a time and place for provocative rhetoric and owning the lives 0.69
01:13:32.620 and all that stuff.
01:13:33.300 But I think at the end of the day, we have to be sober minded, level headed and to give true, full reason arguments to ask Christians in order to navigate the world.
01:13:43.600 Because what is our end goal? Our end goal isn't likes and clicks. Right. Our end goal isn't clout.
01:13:48.420 Our end is to save the West for the glory of God and for the benefit and to secure the future for our posterity. 0.65
01:13:56.460 So with that in mind, we have to be wise, as innocent as doves, but as wise as serpents, and to be prudent and to navigate everything where there's time and place for everything, but at the same time, we can't just be constantly, you're a Zionist shill, you're an anti-Semite.
01:14:11.980 We have to move past that conversation and name-calling and pointing fingers.
01:14:16.280 And I really hope that we can elevate our conversation to a better place because politics has genuine ramifications of people dying and people suffering.
01:14:24.340 And so while we can joke and we can meme,
01:14:26.160 which is all good, we need that.
01:14:27.580 I love memeing, I love joking and having fun,
01:14:30.400 but we have to understand also politics is very serious
01:14:33.160 and has serious ramifications
01:14:34.600 and it can really be between life and death
01:14:36.940 for many, many people.
01:14:39.080 Yep, well said.
01:14:40.020 All right, that'll do it for us today.
01:14:41.980 Stay tuned on Wednesday at 12 p.m. Eastern time.
01:14:44.840 We'll be coming out with the final installment
01:14:46.900 of my 10-part interview with Nicholas J. Fuentes.
01:14:50.960 And so make sure you catch the 10th and final episode
01:14:53.340 this Wednesday at 12 p.m. Eastern Time
01:14:56.000 with myself and Nick Fuentes.
01:14:58.160 And we hope that you have benefited by this content.
01:15:01.640 We hope that you are praying for our nation
01:15:04.280 and that we get out as quickly as possible
01:15:07.800 and stop picking fights with people all around the world,
01:15:11.340 that we get our own house in order.
01:15:13.920 And we wish you the best and Godspeed.
01:15:23.340 We'll be right back.
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