The NXR Podcast - NXR Livestream - Iran’s Government Collapses ｜ ICE Opens Fire

00:00:00.000 Right now, ordinary Iranians are in the streets, shutting down bazaars, clashing with security

00:00:06.400 forces and openly chanting against the regime. Not because of a foreign invasion, not because

00:00:13.420 of a color revolution hashtag, but because their currency is collapsing. Food prices are exploding

00:00:20.220 and the government that claims divine authority can't keep the lights on. This started quietly.

00:00:25.940 Merchants closing shops, workers striking, students protesting, and then it began to spread.

00:00:33.560 City after city, province after province.

00:00:36.760 What you're seeing now isn't a protest. 0.76

00:00:39.500 It's a stress fracture in the Islamic Republic itself.

00:00:43.760 The Western press will tell you that this is economic unrest.

00:00:48.340 Tehran will tell you it's foreign agitation.

00:00:51.900 But both of these explanations are evasions.

00:00:54.860 What's actually happening is simpler and far more dangerous.

00:00:59.540 A regime that survives on control is losing the consent of the people it rules.

00:01:05.500 And once that happens, history tends to move fast.

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00:04:59.320 us off with the news today. All right. So if you've been following the news over the last,

00:05:03.240 especially the last 48 hours, protests across all 31 provinces in Iran have grown to the point where

00:05:09.800 Iran has cut off the internet basically to the entire country. This is done so that the

00:05:14.060 grassroots movements that are operating have no way to communicate. They're not able to translate,

00:05:18.640 be here at a certain time, bring this. They found out that a lot of weapons and munitions are

00:05:23.260 typically stashed beneath mosques, and so they've been targeting those. We see in the capital city

00:05:27.900 of Tehran, a lot of government buildings actually being set on fire. And there's threats basically

00:05:34.520 at this point that the Ayatollah, he's going to have to potentially flee to Russia. This would

00:05:39.280 be a similar path that the president of Syria took after Syria collapsed last year. And so you have

00:05:44.400 explosive riots going on, and you have really no way of telling what's going on. The son of the

00:05:50.540 previous Shah, he's here in the United States, he's been telling the president that what's going on

00:05:54.860 is very similar to the Iranian revolution of 79. When the government cuts off the internet,

00:05:59.500 that's because they want to do things to protesters. They don't want being displayed

00:06:03.400 on Western media. And so he's urging the president of the United States, they're cutting off internet

00:06:08.000 so you can't see what they're about to do to all of these people that they're angry are protesting

00:06:13.300 the current regime. They've cut it off. They've blacked it out. They're going to be committing

00:06:17.040 human rights violations there. President Trump, you need to go in and do something.

00:06:21.800 The other portion piece of this is

00:06:25.060 They're chanting, real quick, they're not chanting death to America 0.70

00:06:27.540 These protests, they're chanting death to the Islamic regime in Iran 0.98

00:06:32.600 Death to the supreme leader as well 0.98

00:06:34.580 To the supreme leader

00:06:35.520 And so it's kind of, and we're going to get into the history

00:06:37.660 Going back to the 70s

00:06:39.120 It's kind of almost a reverse of what originally happened

00:06:43.460 And what originally happened, shocker, that was our fault

00:06:46.940 Our western influence

00:06:48.880 We did that one

00:06:49.660 Doing that one, you know, regime change, right?

00:06:52.160 Because we care about democracy, right?

00:06:53.980 Anytime oil is discovered, the fire jets stream up.

00:06:57.940 It's like, bummer, time to export democracy, right?

00:07:00.980 We found oil.

00:07:02.220 So back in the day, it very much was us.

00:07:04.800 This is not us.

00:07:06.440 This is not us.

00:07:07.240 I mean, now, it'll probably become us.

00:07:09.000 We'll see how we get involved.

00:07:10.100 I hope we don't.

00:07:10.920 But what's happening right now is the more, you guys correct me if I'm wrong, 0.76

00:07:15.120 but the more secular Muslims, because of Western influence,

00:07:17.880 over the previous decades who are more democratic uh who have kind of they may be culturally islamic

00:07:25.080 they are culturally islamic but they're not really practicing they're not very religious they've uh 0.89

00:07:30.220 been westernized and so they've gone to higher like a lot of christians today that's right 0.99

00:07:34.440 they've gone to higher degrees of education these you know and so that group in iran is revolting

00:07:41.720 and then other groups that may not be as highly educated but are feeling the pinch economically 0.78

00:07:46.960 impoverished are following their lead and protesting not death to america islam forever

00:07:52.080 but the opposite death to the islamic regime the current uh leader right and and this has to stop 0.88

00:07:58.440 because we're we're on the brink of collapse economically yeah and i and just a couple things

00:08:04.300 so just quickly to go back to the internet blackouts that are occurring um so there's two

00:08:08.900 two sort of parts to it now there's the part that i think is the most likely which is which

00:08:13.600 which is what West said, which is they're going to attempt to respond to these protests in violent

00:08:18.420 ways, and they don't want that to be seen. Their argument would be, from the Islamic state,

00:08:25.200 that is, they would say, well, we're actually blacking out the internet because of the Western

00:08:29.380 influences that are causing the protests. And so if you look at the Shah's son, Pahlavi, he is

00:08:34.820 currently residing in Washington, D.C. since his dad was actually exiled in the Iranian revolution

00:08:40.140 in the late 1970s, early 1980s,

00:08:43.460 he has basically been living outside of Iran.

00:08:47.060 And so he's actually one of the people

00:08:49.080 who's driving calls for protests and demonstrations.

00:08:51.900 And so those are kind of just to be fair

00:08:54.100 and say these are the two sides of the coin.

00:08:55.600 One coin is if you trust the Ayatollah,

00:08:57.720 they're trying to block out 0.94

00:08:58.660 these Western secular influences

00:09:00.240 that are causing disruption in Iran.

00:09:03.940 And you have the perspective of the West,

00:09:05.540 which is, no, you're actually going to commit

00:09:07.380 atrocious crimes.

00:09:08.800 So that's just funny, the Shah's son, too, because that was one of the Shah's biggest fears.

00:09:12.800 He feared that if he left it to someone weak, that when he left the monarchy in Iran prior to the revolution, that it would collapse.

00:09:19.220 And so it's kind of funny that his son is still carrying the banner here.

00:09:22.000 Fifty years later, his dad is dead.

00:09:24.080 The revolution was successful.

00:09:25.520 He's coming back in, calling himself the crown prince, saying, no, the people must rise up.

00:09:30.300 And that's the interesting point about this.

00:09:31.840 So there's, of course, Iran's nuclear program.

00:09:33.740 We talked all about that over the summer when the U.S. executed a number of strikes on their different uranium enrichment programs. 0.74

00:09:40.820 So Iran, breaking the deals of this anti-nuclear weapons proliferation pact, it appears that they've been enriching uranium in order to be able to build nuclear weapons.

00:09:50.780 But the people aren't in the streets protesting that. 0.58

00:09:53.240 Because Iran's been building nuclear weapons, they've endured a number of sanctions from Western states.

00:09:58.600 So Western states have said, we're not going to do trade with you.

00:10:00.540 We're not going to buy this from you.

00:10:01.680 We're going to cut you off from the west of the world.

00:10:03.740 What that's resulted in then is, for the people, practically speaking, their currency has experienced massive inflation.

00:10:10.340 40% month over month, in recent months.

00:10:12.200 Like, you think we're talking about 3% being high.

00:10:15.100 They're experiencing 40% inflation.

00:10:17.720 The real currency currently, 1.4 million to one U.S. dollar.

00:10:23.940 Just a little pocket change.

00:10:25.620 A little walking around money.

00:10:27.280 Yeah, so they're practically, they can't feed their family, they can't save money,

00:10:30.920 And they're saying, who cares if you have a nuclear program?

00:10:34.080 We're starving over here.

00:10:35.820 And that is, and it's a practical lesson.

00:10:38.200 You can have all these grand ideas, and you'll see some of this from the revolution in 79 as well.

00:10:42.540 You can have all these grand ideas, but if the people of your republic, the people of your state are not happy,

00:10:48.700 good luck keeping control on them when time for revolution arises.

00:10:53.160 Because they're going to take to the streets, and they're going to do what they're doing now.

00:10:56.020 They're going to burn and loot and say, we're done with the current system.

00:10:58.640 And as Joel was saying, in terms of it not being us, well, I would say this, rest assured,

00:11:02.880 if there's conflict happening somewhere in the world, we're involved. But in this particular

00:11:07.120 case, it's not, you know, US sort of intelligence agents on the ground. It's actually these

00:11:13.840 comprehensive sanctions going all the way back to 2015 in the Obama-Iran deal, if you remember that.

00:11:19.480 These comprehensive sanctions applied to them are causing all of this economic disruption.

00:11:24.300 and that's why the people are

00:11:26.280 so it's sort of a second order cause

00:11:28.300 from the U.S. and the West that's causing

00:11:30.280 all of this

00:11:30.760 these demonstrations and the protests

00:11:33.660 and the rioting

00:11:34.900 and it's just important to note that

00:11:37.620 one of the reasons

00:11:39.240 and we don't have to go too far into this but one of the reasons

00:11:41.760 the U.S. is opposing Iran

00:11:43.380 is of course is what West said

00:11:45.480 the nuclear enrichment program

00:11:46.860 but we happen to have our greatest

00:11:49.780 ally in that region

00:11:50.700 who has the ear of the president

00:11:53.120 and who's making a point to the president to say, we need to depose this regime.

00:11:58.540 This regime is so hostile to Israel, the U.S. needs to be involved in removing him.

00:12:03.340 And of course, the U.S. hasn't actually made it policy yet for regime change.

00:12:07.240 But everything, every indication Trump is giving is toward that end as of now.

00:12:11.900 So Trump is saying things like, to the Ayatollah, he's saying, if you are violent, we will hit you hard.

00:12:20.240 He's making direct threats to the ITOLA, saying, if you are conducting military action against these demonstrations, the U.S. will respond.

00:12:28.840 And I think he even said in the press conference, or maybe a White House official said this, he says, it is a harsh response that the U.S. will provide.

00:12:36.460 We are locked, quote, locked and loaded.

00:12:38.780 And so this is the kind of the context here is we've got an ally in the Middle East.

00:12:42.480 We've got these disruptions and protests happening.

00:12:45.500 There's obviously oil at play, right?

00:12:47.940 And Iran is a great exporter.

00:12:50.240 Obviously, with the sanctions right now, Iran exports approximately 0% oil to the United States.

00:12:55.420 But that could change overnight with the regime change.

00:12:57.960 That could drive oil prices down.

00:12:59.440 That can improve the Western economies.

00:13:01.720 And so there's a lot at stake.

00:13:02.780 There's a lot of moving pieces.

00:13:03.880 So you're telling me there's still an angle where this is happening and the U.S. has an incentive with oil.

00:13:09.020 Right.

00:13:09.420 Absolutely.

00:13:09.900 All right.

00:13:10.120 So it's a classic.

00:13:10.940 This is a classic situation.

00:13:11.800 It's another day.

00:13:12.780 Another day that ends in one.

00:13:14.400 There was a good comment from someone.

00:13:15.500 He said, I'm a Persian Christian.

00:13:16.720 You can scroll up a little.

00:13:17.500 I was going to ask you, can you fact check that?

00:13:19.520 Because I've seen that multiple times now, that part of the hostility towards Iran currently

00:13:24.700 is not because they're Muslim shouting death to the West, but actually that within Iran,

00:13:29.740 so this doesn't mean everybody, right?

00:13:31.940 But that in Iran, statistically, in terms of increase, that the Christian church in

00:13:38.660 Iran is the fastest growing Christian church currently in the world, or at least up there,

00:13:44.120 comparable in the top 10 countries.

00:13:46.860 now again understand how statistics work okay because i don't want people to be like oh i 0.73

00:13:51.740 can't believe he said that that's retarded you know blah blah um so i'm not saying that uh the 0.83

00:13:56.360 majority of iran is christian i'm not saying that to be fastest growing okay so like here's an 0.80

00:14:02.320 example um right now one of the fastest growing uh sects of christianity in america is eastern

00:14:08.820 orthodoxy but they're still the smallest way more catholics way more protestants right but they're

00:14:14.700 one of the fastest growing. Think of it like stocks, right? So like, if you're thinking like

00:14:19.460 Nvidia, fantastic. If it was 2022, 2023, 2024, but Nvidia probably in 2026, if you're purchasing

00:14:27.840 their stock, it's, it's going to, you know, I think it'll probably grow, but it's not going to

00:14:31.460 be 10 X returns. Whereas a penny stock, you know, something that's smaller or something like that,

00:14:35.880 it can have multiples, right? It's also riskier. So, so right now I have seen that multiple places

00:14:41.940 And we're going to right now, West is about to verify whether or not it's true.

00:14:45.460 But the point is, again, not that there's more Christians in Iran in terms of total population, percent of population than other countries, you know, or blah, blah.

00:14:54.840 That's not the claim. The claim is that that small group, right, starting as a mustard seed, like Jesus said, you know, there might be something there.

00:15:01.800 Let me cook. But but the small group of Christians that have been in Iran, that that small group is in terms of its speed of growth. 0.68

00:15:09.320 It's still the minority, but its speed of growth is faster, just like Eastern Orthodox in America, Christians in Iran, that it's one of the fastest growing countries.

00:15:20.620 Christianity is growing faster in Iran than virtually any other country right now in the world.

00:15:24.520 Is there any validity? 0.99

00:15:25.620 There is.

00:15:26.100 Let me give two caveats. 0.70

00:15:27.220 First of all, in 79, when you bring in the Islamic Republic, Iran becomes the most Islamic state in the world, essentially.

00:15:34.340 In the modern world, they are the most Islamic state that you will see as far as Sharia law.

00:15:39.560 And there was actually a referendum.

00:15:41.360 So the Ayatollah, the current Ayatollah's father, comes into power after the Shah's sort of exile and deposition.

00:15:48.800 And he actually holds a referendum.

00:15:51.280 The question is, should Iran be an Islamic state?

00:15:54.960 98.2% of people said yes, voted yes on the referendum.

00:15:59.660 Now, obviously, there was accusations of ballot harvesting and those sorts of things.

00:16:05.100 But in Western nations, that was largely considered to be a legitimate referendum.

00:16:09.060 So that's kind of just to add some stats to what you're saying.

00:16:12.060 It's absolutely true.

00:16:13.580 So significant Islamic base, especially 46 years ago.

00:16:16.680 Right.

00:16:17.120 And it is still persecuted today.

00:16:19.160 So practically, statistically, people are not answering a survey. 1.00

00:16:21.860 Oh, Christian.

00:16:22.320 Oh, yeah, no problem.

00:16:23.460 So the data is a little tough to get.

00:16:25.480 The estimates are, and this is not just in the last two to three years,

00:16:27.980 the last 10 to 20 years, they have been the fastest growing church in the world with about

00:16:32.880 300,000 to 3 million Christian converts. That's the best estimates that we have there. They're a

00:16:38.800 country of close to 100 million people. And so you have potentially one to 3% of the country

00:16:44.020 just in the last decade converting to Christianity. And he's absolutely correct. And what you have 1.00

00:16:49.380 here is a pendulum swing. So we have, we should go back all the way in a moment here to 53 and the

00:16:54.700 coup but you've had this pendulum swing towards western values not the good ones the bad ones 0.98

00:16:59.180 and that resulted in this backlash in the swing as you were getting at in 79 to islam and they 0.87

00:17:04.760 set up the most islamic state the world has seen right so you had a secular leader like a puppet

00:17:10.240 it was placed there by the west so a secular leader who was not very islamic maybe culturally 0.95

00:17:15.460 you know and and kind of you know tip the hat and and use some of the rhetoric but he was a puppet 0.51

00:17:20.200 he was placed by the west we interfered um and it was to be favorable towards us with economic

00:17:25.720 policies and oil and particularly the cold war i was about to say right on the border of the

00:17:29.700 soviet union you had iran and so we wanted an ally there and so that's what happened historically

00:17:34.360 we're going to get into that in a moment and the backlash then was uh this cultural and political

00:17:39.780 ground and religious groundswell of is islam as the reaction to secularism that we dropped our

00:17:46.460 puppet you know there with western interference but now um in in many ways it seems like there's

00:17:52.900 a christian uprising and backlash to the islamic regime that has been there ever since and and i

00:18:00.760 know it's more than this okay so here my framing here i know it's more than this this is going to

00:18:05.040 be you know uh risk being an overgeneralization and too simplistic it's more than this but here's

00:18:12.200 my point i don't think it's less than what i'm about to say all right so you guys tell me if

00:18:16.660 this is fair framing not not that it's exhaustive or comprehensive but that these elements although

00:18:22.220 more than this would be true it's not less than this currently what you have is a groundswell

00:18:28.180 and quickly increasing christian presence in iran and not a bunch of chanting death to america death

00:18:38.020 to the west but actually uh death to the islamic regime that's the people death to the islamic 0.63

00:18:44.960 regime and christianity exponentially increasing and israel wants us to bomb them is that is that 0.95

00:18:51.760 fair i think that's the lay of the land that sounds right okay it's another day that ends 0.99

00:18:54.960 in y okay so now let's get into the history all right so it there's been kind of a renaissance

00:18:59.700 of this idea of we should do regime change and we should be involved in scenarios like this and

00:19:04.600 Nick Fuentes actually mentioned this in this week's episode, What is World Jewry?

00:19:08.340 That there's a new spin on it where it can kind of be, oh, it's actually based to support

00:19:12.920 regime change in Iran and to go back to the monarchy.

00:19:15.560 Nobody cool these days is a neocon, right?

00:19:17.940 Nobody's wearing that label like, hey, all the cool kids are going to the neocon conference.

00:19:22.240 People don't wear that label.

00:19:23.500 So the ideas are getting repackaged.

00:19:25.200 And one of these ideas is that it's in America's best interest to support regime change in

00:19:29.940 Iran and going back to the monarchy, going back to the way, like kind of a Western puppet over 0.67

00:19:34.940 there, that that would be the best thing ever, that that would be base, that that would be good 0.82

00:19:38.540 for the country, be good for Western relations. And we're in this problem in the first place

00:19:43.400 because we interfered in a country that we didn't understand and we didn't know what we were doing.

00:19:48.500 And so to rewind all the way back, 1951, just following just a couple of years after the end

00:19:53.720 of World War II. Iran elects Prime Minister Mohamed Mossadegh, and he nationalizes the

00:20:00.120 Anglo-Iranian oil company called AIOC. Now, Britain had been getting a pretty unfair,

00:20:06.880 pretty leveraged deal of oil from Iran. I mean, this is all we're talking about. It's oil, oil,

00:20:12.260 oil, and money. And Britain's been getting this really unfair deal that they would really love

00:20:16.880 to see continue. But when the Prime Minister comes in and nationalizes the company, he basically

00:20:21.680 threatens the one-sided deal that they've had. London tries sanctions. London tries all these

00:20:26.620 different things. They try diplomatic pressure. None of it works to get them to budge. The

00:20:30.600 president, the prime minister puts his foot down. He says, no, we're nationalizing it. This is going

00:20:35.540 to be work in the interest of Iran. The U.S. comes in. They need an ally on the border of the Soviet 0.97

00:20:41.740 Union. The Cold War is heating up. So Britain and the U.S., they both look at the current president

00:20:46.800 and they go, this guy sucks. We need our own people in there. We need a Western ally. We've 0.99

00:20:53.200 got a lot of interest in this region. And so the CIA and MI6 work together to take the exiled Shah 0.78

00:20:59.740 and install him in the coup that is the 1953 Iranian coup. And they install him as a monarch.

00:21:05.320 He suppresses political dissidents. And it's for about basically the next 25 years that there's a

00:21:11.020 very Western regime in Iran. So you have things like women voting. You have things like modern 1.00

00:21:16.080 Western entertainment, commercialization, education. Early on in 73, there's the Iranian-Israeli war.

00:21:23.340 And all these other nations in the Middle East that have all this oil money, they agree on an

00:21:27.540 embargo. And so they say, as long as this war is going on, we're not going to sell our oil to the

00:21:31.220 West, with one exception being Iran. Iran says, we will sell it to you, and it boosts their economy

00:21:37.160 incredibly. And so Iran is being rapidly westernized, rapidly growing Western values.

00:21:42.440 They've got tons of money coming in because they're the only one that didn't embargo their oil.

00:21:46.820 However, in 75, oil prices crash.

00:21:50.160 People start getting mad at the Shah.

00:21:52.240 And what you had still here, even as Iran is westernizing in the 50s and the 60s, 0.75

00:21:57.320 you still had a 90% Muslim country. 0.73

00:22:00.480 So you have this 90% Muslim country, and the CIA and MI6 propped up a monarch there 0.59

00:22:05.860 that really wanted to bring in Western values. 0.81

00:22:08.160 And so for two to three decades, they're trying to push these Western values in the Muslim country. 1.00

00:22:12.660 And it's like taking a balloon and placing it under the water and trying to hold it down there. 0.91

00:22:17.600 Eventually, that Muslim energy of the people, hey, this is our identity.

00:22:21.680 This is our religion.

00:22:22.940 You, of course, have religious fundamentalists that say this is not haram for women to be walking around in public in bikinis, whatever it would be.

00:22:31.040 And so then what comes out of that, you try to suppress it with Western values and all of these things.

00:22:35.300 and then there's backlash when economic trouble comes from the 75 oil crash and that results in

00:22:41.760 the 1979 Iranian revolution right and and i'll just going back to the cold war and sort of the

00:22:47.100 context there like this this is a playbook that is that many countries including vietnam and korea

00:22:52.300 they start to play which is we have this bifurcated global economy we've got the soviet union on one

00:22:57.480 side and america on the on the other side and they they tried to play that they knew that that was

00:23:01.800 leverage and so it essentially became america's prerogative to say we can't have a leader playing

00:23:08.300 both sides we can't have a leader who's using this as leverage and this is where sort of the puppet

00:23:12.220 installation of a leader this is what this is the playbook that america and american intelligence

00:23:17.200 continually ran so that's that's the point there right right play your hand when you can just

00:23:20.900 redeal yourself from the deck right exactly and so you use the cia you use intelligence you use

00:23:25.940 all of these different um tactics um to try to get to basically win a country to your side

00:23:31.520 um and then and but what's the context here so the so you have this new leader the shah

00:23:37.260 and basically all of this sort of religious fervor he's more or less suppressing uh you know

00:23:43.200 censorship and and the and censorship of the news and those sorts of things but what you what you

00:23:48.540 see um in history is there was one group of people that he didn't censor and it was the clerics it

00:23:55.420 was the ayatollah and so you have you have all of these clerics in iran that's as it's becoming

00:24:00.420 more western and more western what are they doing they're incorporating these the within their

00:24:05.400 sermons within within their preaching and their teaching of islam political messaging political

00:24:10.000 messages and this is creating this fervor it's primarily rural but those rural farm boys are

00:24:16.040 all conscripted by law into the military and so they're being radicalized on the home front

00:24:21.020 conscripted into the military and then this comes out in the revolution that you look and it would

00:24:25.580 be kind of like america wait 50 50 half of these are from the urban areas half of these are farm

00:24:30.400 boys from the rural south like in america you could imagine if you told a good old boy from

00:24:34.540 alabama hey there's an uprising going on down there in alabama or florida you get down there

00:24:38.840 he's gonna like wait i have more allegiance to my home state where i'm from than i do to the

00:24:43.960 federal government here in dc where i've been stationed same thing in iran they're radicalized

00:24:48.320 on the rural side of things with the clerics and the fundamentalists but conscripted to serve in

00:24:52.420 the military which comes back to bite them in the revolution yeah right and then so you have this as

00:24:57.600 we build toward the iranian revolution in 78 late 78 early 79 you have this sort of traditionalist

00:25:04.680 they call themselves traditionalists and they say we want to get back to sharia law we want

00:25:08.580 a fundamentally islamic state you have so and it's essentially a multi-party system so you have the

00:25:14.000 traditionalists. You have the monarch, and that's the Shah. That's basically America's puppet. And 0.57

00:25:19.140 then you have this group of communists. And you have actually several communist parties in Iran

00:25:24.000 in the 1970s. And all of these sort of factions are vying for power. It becomes kind of like a

00:25:29.940 chessboard. And what the Card administration does is they start to step back and say, okay,

00:25:35.000 we can't have a specific policy here. We know we don't like the communists, but we also see that

00:25:40.140 the shawl is dramatically losing power to the traditionalist sort of sharia law fundamentalists

00:25:46.240 and the u.s started to take a step back and a step back which as the u.s sort of stops applying

00:25:52.220 the pressure toward westernization you start to see a lot of these protests and demonstrations

00:25:56.800 and riots and those things start to creep up creep up creep up until you get to the point where

00:26:01.580 and and it's ironic carter says in 1977 he calls iran an island of uh of uh stability within a

00:26:09.880 year from that statement you have a revolution wow and and um and so as as the u.s steps back

00:26:15.640 and this revolution starts to occur the shah is exiled and and this is actually partly due to

00:26:21.560 health reasons but predominantly because he actually felt his presence there and he had the

00:26:26.100 sort of the the the soldiers the military there was actually morocco leukemia right so he goes

00:26:32.300 to morocco he's exiled and at that moment um all of the sort of pro-monarchy forces have basically

00:26:39.620 lost all sort of fervor or hope right in in and maintaining the current state of affairs there

00:26:44.920 and within within a year um the ayatollah who was exiled then the clerical leader who's sort of

00:26:50.800 making all of these proclamations about islamic and is an islamic state he returns and immediately

00:26:57.300 sees his power and um and the shawl from that moment is exiled he dies shortly after i think in

00:27:02.820 in egypt or either morocco or egypt he's exiled and dies within a few years and from that moment

00:27:08.700 we've had in the islamic state and iran who has continually um sort of been at sort of uh in in

00:27:14.780 a contentious position with the west sanctions here sanctions there through time no they have 0.86

00:27:20.780 been the death to america chance iran with this population and everything has been the center for 0.67

00:27:25.500 islamic terror in many ways you have a number of different cells and groups that have operated 0.90

00:27:28.780 within it the ayatollah himself they're very hostile to the west so there's the uprising

00:27:33.580 right now those people generally it's a mix some of it probably being christians secular muslims

00:27:38.780 they're not the ones that really care about the west they're not interested in our influence 0.56

00:27:42.460 they're mad at the current regime right but the regime that was installed in 79 the ayatollah and

00:27:46.780 and then it's his son right now reigning,

00:27:49.060 that has certainly been the very anti-West, anti-America,

00:27:52.800 the quintessential death to America chance

00:27:55.040 for the last 45 years.

00:27:56.120 But I guess my larger point,

00:27:57.840 looking at it from a 30,000-foot view,

00:27:59.600 is just to say that it's not that

00:28:01.220 there's no historical precedence

00:28:02.740 with Iran being very hostile to the Christian West. 0.98

00:28:06.180 That's true. 0.84

00:28:07.060 But what we're seeing right now

00:28:09.020 is not the same old, same old.

00:28:10.780 What we're seeing right now

00:28:11.660 is in many ways completely novel

00:28:13.480 because we're not seeing an Islamic revolt

00:28:16.360 to Western interference trying to set up our sacred democracy

00:28:20.300 and Western civilization and virtues and values and those kinds of things.

00:28:25.000 What we're actually seeing is in many ways a somewhat secular Western revolt

00:28:31.980 and somewhat Christian Western revolt to the Islamic emphasis there.

00:28:39.320 And so my point is you're seeing the people themselves on the ground,

00:28:43.960 not all of them but you're but a significant demonstration um and it's not coming from the

00:28:49.300 muslim side of the aisle i mean they are muslims many of them um at least culturally and some of

00:28:54.620 them you know are devoted religiously but you're seeing christian irenians and you're also seeing

00:29:00.220 secular irenians and they're actually standing up to the muslim regime and saying that's enough 0.55

00:29:06.620 we need to eat we need to be able to feed our kids quit ticking everybody off we don't care 0.99

00:29:12.480 about nukes right your nuclear program and all this kind of stuff that you're doing that's causing

00:29:16.860 us it's been a development for 500 years for 500 years iran has been developing weeks away from a

00:29:21.640 nuclear weapon yeah two weeks away you know my entire lifetime they've been two weeks away and

00:29:26.180 so the people on the ground themselves it's not westerners but people in iran both from a secular

00:29:33.300 western cultural standpoint and a christian western religious and cultural standpoint are saying to 0.99

00:29:39.160 their own governmental uh government leaders um were done with this islamic terrorism crap cut it 0.99

00:29:46.640 out you're ticking off the entire world and the world is then boycotting us and we can't feed our 0.99

00:29:52.760 kids you need to cut it out so my point is with that going on on the ground for the west it's one

00:29:59.680 thing you know um if it's you know all right they're chanting death to america and uh and

00:30:05.060 there's actually proof of nuclear weapons and not just, you know, the age old threat of two weeks

00:30:10.380 away, then then that's that's one thing. And that's partly what we've experienced in the past.

00:30:16.060 And even then, I think we handled it in really stupid ways. But that's not what's happening 0.95

00:30:22.420 today. What's happening today is almost the exact reverse of that. It's the people in Iran

00:30:27.720 themselves, a significant growing number saying we're done with the radical Islam stuff, at least

00:30:34.280 politically and in our government, we need to chill out, play nice with the rest of the world

00:30:40.860 so that we're not blacklisted economically so that we can feed our children. In other words,

00:30:46.980 if that's what's happening with the Iranian people, for the West, Israel, which is not really 0.74

00:30:52.480 the West, but they think they are, and America and European countries that say, man, we need to get

00:30:58.060 boots on the ground and we need to go and do this and do that no no um i i think you you need to 1.00

00:31:04.920 you need to pull back stop the interference and see what the irenian people can do let them cook

00:31:11.360 let it play out a little bit and see if there might be a regime change that maybe for once

00:31:16.340 we don't orchestrate but their own people actually figure out a way to make the country uh not

00:31:23.960 hostile and and there's the workings of it there's the rise of christian faith uh there's a push back

00:31:29.040 against at least the the more extreme islamic political uh positions and push towards monarchy

00:31:35.340 a push towards yep bring back the king someone that embodies our values that represents us that

00:31:40.040 will fight for us on the national stage i mean obviously he would be a muslim king at this point

00:31:45.380 christianity is still the minority reports rapidly growing but the minority report he would be a

00:31:50.920 Muslim king. But what they're pushing for is a Muslim king who's not building nukes, who's not

00:31:57.340 ticking off the West, and who makes sure, in terms of geopolitics, to play nice so that they can

00:32:04.420 economically take care of them. And he advocates for freedom of religion, the son of the Shah,

00:32:08.860 who he himself has said, I would come back. If the current government is ousted, I would come

00:32:13.320 back and rule. We don't know if he'd be able to. His inexperience might hurt him. But he himself

00:32:17.380 has said he favors freedom of religion in iran which would be great for christians now in a

00:32:22.220 christian nation we personally don't want freedom of religion freedom of religion pretty much equals 0.98

00:32:26.980 freedom to blaspheme but for christians there new converts in a majority hostile muslim country 0.91

00:32:33.340 i mean all else being equal okay you have a prime minister islamic cleric with harsh suppression

00:32:39.060 of christianity or a pretty secular modern muslim who says and we should have freedom of religion

00:32:44.760 all else being equal for my brothers and sisters in christ in iran and the growing church there

00:32:50.160 you should favor that one you should objectively better and that's what you see i mean if you think

00:32:55.040 about just transition periods have to happen for the christianization of a nation or of an empire

00:33:00.100 you can think back to the other church and what happened before uh rome was declared an actual

00:33:04.540 christian empire you saw these uh sort of uh punishments and restrictions and all of these

00:33:09.540 things slowly be eroded started to lessen and transition until you can actually have a leader

00:33:14.260 who comes and says no, our country actually is a Christian nation. And just to bolster your point

00:33:21.640 about actually letting things play out, this, you know, in the history, we jump from the Iranian

00:33:26.640 revolution to today. But the reality is, this is not the first time that something like this has

00:33:31.460 occurred, even in this millennia. So you can go back to the Green Movement in 2009, there were

00:33:36.220 election disputes in Iran, and you saw localized protests saying things like, where's my vote?

00:33:41.720 where where is the say of the people and and that was that was also crushed down by a crush by the

00:33:47.320 ayatollah and violence i think the estimates were something like 40 deaths later in 2019 you see a

00:33:52.980 similar protest over economic sanctions and this fuel hike of 50 to 200 percent are some of the

00:33:58.580 estimates and the people come again this time nationwide saying we need this ayatollah deposed

00:34:04.280 we need a person who cares in that office since 89 the son of the ayatollah who took over after

00:34:09.880 the Iranian revolution he's been in this office since 89 so almost over 30 years right and they're

00:34:16.400 like we're done with him and they're suffering and then so that's 2019 you see these nationwide

00:34:19.700 protests and here and by the way crushed again you ask well what happened or is it going to work

00:34:24.700 1500 people on the high end died in those protests i mean just the military literally firing on

00:34:30.120 protesters um and you saw similar things just to be clear in these instances internet blackouts 0.82

00:34:34.800 It's all the same playbook that the Ayatollah is running here. 0.85

00:34:37.720 And so that's 2019. 0.95

00:34:39.160 So you have 2009, 2019, and then here we are today.

00:34:42.000 Same thing happening, even more fervor.

00:34:43.940 You're seeing it build.

00:34:44.800 You're seeing the discontent economically, religiously.

00:34:48.720 All of these things are coming to a head.

00:34:50.800 And then you add on top of that Israel's influence in the U.S. and the West broadly,

00:34:55.400 applying even more pressure.

00:34:56.880 This is the Trump locked and loaded.

00:34:58.960 This is the 12-day war back in the summer of 2025.

00:35:02.420 All of these things are applying so much pressure to the regime there that it really is a question, how much longer can they send?

00:35:09.340 How much longer until there is an official policy from the U.S. and from the West more broadly about regime change?

00:35:16.600 And I don't think it's far.

00:35:18.060 Yeah, and I see, too, also a bent towards nationalism.

00:35:20.880 This has been going on globally, I would say, since the end of the Cold War.

00:35:24.700 Russia is a great example.

00:35:25.880 I mean, Russia, the Bolshevik Revolution, a small kind of multi-ethnic coalition. 0.93

00:35:30.360 They seize the government and they carry out basically decades of terror.

00:35:34.700 But communism ends, at least in the USSR, when it disbands in 89.

00:35:38.680 So you could consider Russia the first victim of globalism, communism, whatever you want to call it.

00:35:43.820 They never really achieved full communism, but they were well on their way with socialism.

00:35:47.960 89, it collapses.

00:35:48.960 In the 35 years or so that have followed that, Russia has become incredibly nationalistic.

00:35:54.640 There's actually a document, I think it's by 2036,

00:35:57.180 Russia intends that 90 to 95 percent of Russians when asked what their identity is that they would

00:36:03.280 say Russians they wouldn't say Yugoslavian or Slavic or this they would identify with Russia

00:36:07.620 be very similar if America said our goal in imbuing our values and the people that live here

00:36:12.000 is that by 2036 95 percent of people living in America would say I'm American they wouldn't say

00:36:18.040 I'm Asian American I'm African American that they would say American so Russia you can consider 0.89

00:36:22.660 them having gotten the illness, the bug, the worst, the first, but then they're well on their 0.80

00:36:27.480 way to being much more nationalistic, much more Christian. Abortion rates that were really high 0.73

00:36:32.120 during the Soviet Union, those have fallen. And then other countries, they didn't undergo

00:36:36.400 communism, for example, they're kind of falling into place. You see this with the rise of

00:36:40.400 nationalism in Britain, here in the United States, but also in Iran. I think you see the people

00:36:45.140 there, they're saying, who cares, like you said, about nukes on a global stage. We want to be able

00:36:51.160 to eat we want a monarch we want to have pride i mean this used to be ancient persia these were

00:36:56.520 people that ruled vast amounts of land and they were wealthy and iran has been wealthy in its

00:37:01.920 past and the people are saying give us iran for iranians like the religion the muslim christian

00:37:07.180 pieces aside even just nationalistically the people are saying we want a government that

00:37:11.620 works for us and they are far from an isolated case and you can expect as different countries

00:37:15.800 fall in line russia kind of being the foremost of the world powers that are doing it other small

00:37:20.460 nations are going to kind of start to do the same thing they're going to look and say their

00:37:23.320 government works for them their government cares for them i think of how poland the the records of

00:37:28.320 sexual assault compared to other western european countries it's it's fractions an 80th of the 0.97

00:37:34.620 amount because they haven't let immigrants in that's right and so people are going to start 0.99

00:37:37.660 looking and say uh wait their women aren't being assaulted by immigrants right we want that for us

00:37:42.120 we want to be a nation with borders poland is all over the world that's happening virtually 0.96

00:37:46.140 entirely white right um yeah so you're right this is a worldwide phenomenon that we've been seeing 0.79

00:37:51.300 um for multiple years at this point there's a like a full-on rejection of globalism not so much

00:37:57.660 from our elites and not just elites in our country but every single country it's like

00:38:01.440 the elites kind of push back they're trying to maintain you know the status quo but it's a

00:38:06.240 populist uprising in hungary in el salvador in america and the populist uprising uh saying we

00:38:13.360 want to return to nationalism and the people willing to, at least temporarily, and I'm not

00:38:21.080 saying it actually would be temporary, but lend extraordinary powers to whatever populist leader

00:38:26.700 could get elected in their national context to give them that kind of nationalism that puts

00:38:31.680 their people first, right? If you're in Iran, right, it's Iran first. If you're in America, 0.57

00:38:37.540 America first and so everybody's basically looking at their nation and saying our leaders don't care

00:38:43.620 for us they care for the bottom line they care for the GDP they care for this that and the other

00:38:48.020 but they don't actually care for our people and there's a populist revolt in all these different

00:38:52.620 places and some of these leaders have been to varying degrees successful I would say one of

00:38:57.380 the most successful political leader right now in his country where the people just they were fed up

00:39:03.760 and they put him in power

00:39:05.160 and he's actually been able

00:39:07.160 to change the rule book,

00:39:09.700 so to speak,

00:39:10.820 is Bukele in El Salvador.

00:39:13.240 He's got like 90% favorability

00:39:16.160 and was able to change

00:39:18.900 the term limits.

00:39:20.640 He's President Bukele,

00:39:22.960 but functionally King Bukele.

00:39:25.500 And he is not super fond of Israel. 0.57

00:39:28.660 He's a big component of Bitcoin

00:39:30.680 and cryptocurrency.

00:39:32.000 Which has paid off huge

00:39:33.040 for their government.

00:39:33.760 paid off huge for the government. And part of that is as an investment economically, but also part of

00:39:39.160 it is even broader than that. It's to wean El Salvador, his nation, his people that he loves

00:39:44.580 and wants to care for as a civil father, weaning them off of the centralized banking system and

00:39:50.960 usury and exorbitant amounts of interest and these kinds of things. And cryptocurrency he sees as a

00:39:57.540 viable solution that could achieve that, a betterment for his people. And so that's what we

00:40:02.660 see right now to varying degrees in america right now i'll just be honest and i think everybody

00:40:06.360 feels this um we we el salvador they're like we're gonna the masses the populace the people

00:40:12.440 we're gonna be behind bukele to to break a few eggs to make an omelet right and clean up our

00:40:20.220 country el salvador is for el salvador in america same kind of thing we're like and we're gonna you

00:40:25.800 know throw our weight behind trump and trump is not bukele no so bukele did it for his people

00:40:32.440 and they love him he is one of the most uh as far as approval ratings go it's Vladimir Putin

00:40:38.400 in Russia yep and President Bukele that's right 96 to 97 approval rating that imagine that here

00:40:45.240 in the United States Trump's approval rating I think it's what 40s low 40s to 50s divided

00:40:50.080 350 million people almost split it down the middle half the people love him half the people hate him

00:40:54.820 you go to these countries 95 out of 100 people I love the president I love what he's doing he's

00:41:00.400 doing a great job well yeah but he's rewriting the constitution and taking power well i don't care

00:41:05.180 i'm safe i'm i have a job that can feed my family who cares about a piece of paper if i'm sitting

00:41:12.140 here my life is so much better than it was 10 years ago nobody cares about that stuff they want

00:41:16.160 someone who fights for them it's the meme with two guys who are sitting on the curb you know and

00:41:20.300 and a gun behind him and he's like well at least we upheld the constitution you know and he shoots

00:41:25.340 the first guy and is about to shoot the second like that's uh everybody i think is starting to

00:41:31.160 instinctively get that they're like no like the constitution i i still maintain it's a beautiful

00:41:35.740 document the main failure of the constitution is some of the latter amendments after the first 10

00:41:39.900 beyond that getting to authorial intent with the first and beyond that the the main failure in my

00:41:45.000 mind my purview of the founders is that they were not explicit in naming the lord jesus christ

00:41:49.840 as king of these united states and so adopting a preamble of the apostles creed or something like

00:41:54.460 that. Other than that, I like the Constitution. But here's what people are recognizing. We can't

00:41:59.480 just muh Constitution even harder. You can vote your way in to some of these messes. But as the

00:42:05.880 old adage goes, someone typically has to shoot their way out. That's just the way that it goes.

00:42:11.680 And so it's, I said it a while back on Twitter, I'll say it again here. But it was a short tweet,

00:42:16.740 got a lot of attention, because it resonated with the people, the people in America. I said,

00:42:21.440 we have to recognize even if we love the constitution the constitution was written

00:42:26.100 for a country that no longer exists the constitution was written for a country that no longer exists

00:42:32.240 and that's what we're starting to experience that's what they've experienced in el salvador

00:42:36.100 in hungary uh in in russia all these different places to some degree argentina um he's done a

00:42:42.280 good job but he's also kind of a lib you know libertarianism uh is not viable long term right

00:42:47.300 leave me alone. You know, the side that wants to be left alone will always lose to the side that

00:42:51.700 wants to win. And so I think there will be problems that they will face in terms of longevity. But

00:42:58.080 that's what people are also feeling in America. And they thought that Trump was going to be that

00:43:01.800 guy. I mean, he literally tweeted out. I remember I was stoked. I was like, babe, wake up. It's

00:43:06.460 happening. Trump is Napoleon posting, right? We all remember on X where he posted, he was quoting

00:43:12.460 napoleon and he said he who uh saves his country violates no law and i was like we're back we're

00:43:20.300 back and then shortly after i got uh in the mail my fell for it again badge and i had to put it up

00:43:28.380 on the wall along with all the other ones um i think trump in some ways has been a precursor

00:43:33.900 i'm grateful for some of the things he's done but he is not bukele he is not the king he is not um

00:43:40.400 he's not going to be the guy who saves the country he is not because he has made it explicitly clear

00:43:45.500 by this point he's not willing to do what it takes he's not willing to cross the rubicon and

00:43:50.660 he only has it's not like oh he still has three years he has months months until the midterms

00:43:55.240 where he becomes effectively a lame duck president um and and that's that's where we're at but in

00:44:01.540 terms of the future looking beyond trump and that's how people have to be mag is dead mag is

00:44:06.300 done it's america first and the question is who who are going to be the front runners who is going

00:44:11.560 to come and fill that space you got guys like thomas massey you got marjorie taylor green i'm 0.93

00:44:16.180 grateful for her but personally i don't want a blonde woman leading the charge i'd like to see

00:44:20.440 her at home i think she's a sweet woman she didn't betray her her uh her people god bless 0.78

00:44:26.560 marjorie taylor green i'll say that 100 god bless her she's not a raging zionist i do just on

00:44:32.180 principle though i would like to um i would like to visit her house and and um and and have tea

00:44:38.220 together and have a wonderful conversation and bring my wife but i don't just on principle it

00:44:44.000 needs to be christian men it needs to be christian men i'm not trying to be disrespectful but my

00:44:47.920 point marjorie taylor green thomas massey you got nick fuentes not as a politician but as a voice

00:44:52.540 and now you're seeing even at local level state levels guys like james fishback uh guys like uh

00:44:57.420 Casey Putz, is that how you say it?

00:44:58.860 Push, I think.

00:44:59.320 Push, it's P-U-T-S-C-H. 1.00

00:45:04.120 Yes, S-C-H, P-U-T-S-C-H. 1.00

00:45:07.560 And so can I just, can I unveil? 0.96

00:45:10.580 Do it, do it.

00:45:11.360 All right, so next Monday,

00:45:13.660 we have James Fishback coming on the show.

00:45:17.080 And next Friday, we have Casey running for Ohio

00:45:20.480 to try to beat out Vivek coming on the show.

00:45:23.300 In XR, we're not playing around.

00:45:24.480 We're gonna be bringing you real politicians

00:45:26.080 running real races that actually have a real shot. I'm not saying it's in the bag. It's going to be

00:45:31.780 tough. Those guys are going to have to work hard because they're working against incumbents that

00:45:36.580 have the MAGA endorsement from Trump. The Trump endorsement, which is working against our

00:45:40.900 interests right now. Exactly. And that's what we have to realize. You can be grateful. Praise God

00:45:45.840 for Trump. He animated an entire generation. America first. From now on, only America first.

00:45:52.400 praise god and that's great and he did some good things um appointing judges i'm grateful for that

00:45:57.300 and the overturning of roe and these kinds of things um we can be forever grateful for that

00:46:01.580 but we have to recognize uh just like israel they're like man saul did some really great

00:46:05.560 things okay but the spirit of god is with david now right the spirit of god is not with saul

00:46:10.580 um saul did some good things but then at a certain point saul as samuel the prophet said

00:46:15.900 you were once small in your own eyes but now you think you're you think you're a big deal

00:46:20.560 and and so Saul was used by the Lord in humility to do incredible things and Israel can always

00:46:26.220 forever be grateful for how the Lord used Saul but at a certain point he was no longer small in

00:46:31.320 his own eyes and he actually became a hindrance rather than a help to the furtherment and the

00:46:36.080 betterment of Israel and the spirit left Saul the spirit of the Lord and was with this little

00:46:40.800 shepherd boy that nobody thought like this guy you know who like I'll be honest that like when

00:46:47.240 i look at trump and i look at nick it kind of i see i see saul and david and uh and and one of

00:46:53.180 the if you've ever read um 48 i forget the exact title but 48 rules laws of power laws of power

00:46:59.000 one of them is um don't ever be bigger than the current guy who's who's the top guy right and

00:47:05.760 that's literally what happened with david and saul is you know they come back and saul's like

00:47:08.920 all right i appreciate david he's my right-hand guy he just killed goliath for us this is awesome

00:47:13.660 you know let's honor david but then he comes back and hears the people and they're singing

00:47:17.300 the women are dancing in the streets and singing saul we like that guy he's good he killed his

00:47:21.860 thousands but david is tens of thousands and and right now there's kind of the whispers you can

00:47:27.180 feel it in the ground and the populace it's like maga killed its thousands but america first it's

00:47:32.680 tens of thousands trump his thousands but nick his tens of thousands and and so trump has a choice

00:47:39.780 and it feels like he's kind of already made it.

00:47:41.600 We'll always leave out hope.

00:47:42.820 We'll pray for him.

00:47:43.420 And again, we can honor him,

00:47:45.000 but it doesn't seem like he's going to be the guy. 0.96

00:47:47.100 He's not willing to cross the Rubicon like Bukele did,

00:47:49.800 like some other leaders are doing.

00:47:51.580 But that's the global phenomenon right now

00:47:53.860 is a move away from global secularism, 1.00

00:47:57.240 gay race communism, 0.68

00:47:58.040 and moving back to nationalism, 0.89

00:48:00.140 the people saying,

00:48:01.120 I want my leaders to be for me,

00:48:03.860 a civil father that nurtures his own citizens.

00:48:07.620 And the guys who are willing to do it

00:48:09.020 are beloved 96 97 approval ratings and the guys who aren't willing to do it it's not just that

00:48:15.480 trump was always you know in the in the low 40s with his when he came in um initially in this

00:48:20.920 second term just a few months it wasn't even that long ago just a few months back i mean like eight

00:48:26.000 nine months back trump was doing well he was polling well i think it was in the 60s at its

00:48:31.620 peak low 60 he has dropped significantly and with young men young men particularly because they went

00:48:37.680 left plummeted oh because those young men became democrats no because they are far to the right

00:48:43.160 of donald trump and so that's what's going on um and and that's and and the point is to cover the

00:48:49.760 news because this is a big global story but beyond just the news it's to to show that if you don't

00:48:55.640 think the global return to nationalism is just that global um well it's not just el salvador

00:49:02.780 it's not just hungary it's not just russia it's not just america trying but we've got we've got

00:49:07.060 the neocons in the way aka now MAGA in the way um it's not just that if you need an argument from

00:49:12.860 uh from the lesser to the greater Iran is happening there also their people are saying

00:49:18.820 nationalism care about us play nice with the rest of the world but mostly just just stop it just 0.84

00:49:25.440 just untangle yourself from the rest of the world stop the nuke program stop this transport the oil 0.51

00:49:32.220 So, and Iran needs to be for Iran.

00:49:36.200 Yeah, and I just want to make two points with respect to nationalism and the rise of nationalism and why that's good. 0.96

00:49:41.040 One, on the geopolitical front.

00:49:42.900 So if you just think about economics, right, you think about game theory.

00:49:46.000 When you have a nation that is for the nation, it's for the people of the nation,

00:49:49.100 and it's actually much easier to deal with that nation because you actually have a very clear picture of their history,

00:49:55.140 a clear picture of their interest in sort of the geography of where they're at,

00:49:59.760 and sort of the different threats and the things that are going on in the nation.

00:50:03.420 So nationalism is good with respect to America's relations with other nations.

00:50:07.440 We should strive to be at peace with all men.

00:50:09.520 We should strive to be at peace with all nations.

00:50:11.620 And so when we see it of this fervor, this nationalistic fervor arising in nations,

00:50:16.540 we should, as Christians, more or less support that that nation be for that nation.

00:50:20.200 But the second point is, and we're not making the argument, by the way,

00:50:23.480 that this nationalism is a Christian nationalism in Iran.

00:50:26.840 I think that would be too far to say.

00:50:28.560 But what we can say is we just think about Christ winning the nations.

00:50:32.180 It is easier to win a nation under a system of nationalism, easier to preach the gospel 0.50

00:50:37.280 under a system of nationalism than it would be, for example, under an Islamic state, an

00:50:42.280 Islamic regime.

00:50:43.560 And so even if we think- 1.00

00:50:44.500 Or global homo, globalism like China. 1.00

00:50:47.160 Christianity is having a tough time catching on there because it's just a big manufacturing 0.99

00:50:52.000 hub with not a lot of groundedness and rootedness. 0.82

00:50:54.640 It's work.

00:50:55.220 It's provide services to all the rest of the world for pennies on the dollar.

00:50:57.980 here's your tiny wage it's tough for christianity to catch on there we're seeing that yeah and so

00:51:02.540 if you even just think about the different options that are at play one option is to go the the route

00:51:07.960 of globalism it's to partner with israel to to be actively undermining the regime to topple it and

00:51:14.800 put in another actively undermining local governments right with their own people right

00:51:19.580 not a good look and so that's the sort of the pressure from the side of israel that we can feel 0.81

00:51:23.680 which is hey let's go in and just force our hand onto this nation and that that we know that we've 0.98

00:51:29.120 seen that playbook five six times in the last 70 years that doesn't work but there's an other option

00:51:35.100 what if there was a third option so the third option is we actually step back we step back and

00:51:40.140 allow this nationalistic fervor we allow the the actual go comings and goings within a nation and

00:51:46.100 their concerns economically religiously all of those things play out and the the foundation that

00:51:52.300 comes from that is one that we can actually work with. We can work with as just a nation that wants

00:51:57.240 to be hospitable, a nation that wants to be in good relations with other nations, but we can

00:52:01.200 also work with that as Christians. And that's the key point here is because we do care about

00:52:06.720 Iranian Christians. We don't want them here per se, but we do care about them and we want them

00:52:11.140 to have a life where they can live and worship Christ in a context where they're safe and where

00:52:16.780 they can actually do the, uh, leverage evangelism to spread the gospel. And that has to happen

00:52:22.180 within the nation. America, it is not our place, nor are we particularly good at doing that

00:52:26.640 ourselves. And so it all comes back to this idea of, well, what should America do right now? We

00:52:31.660 can see Trump is actually making the threats toward this like globalistic Israel first, um,

00:52:37.220 sort of ideology to say, no, we actually are going to get involved. We're going to change the regime, 0.52

00:52:41.280 not for, for us per se, although maybe there's some kickbacks with respect to oil and those

00:52:45.420 sorts of things, but for Israel's sake. And that just, it's not going to work. And so all that to 0.89

00:52:51.380 say, Iran isn't a Christian nation. We're not making an argument that these protests and these

00:52:56.520 demonstrations aren't necessarily just liberal secularism dressed differently, because in all

00:53:02.600 likelihood, that's what they are. But we can make the point that for better or for worse, that

00:53:07.460 happening is good for the nation in that the people are actually going to be reflected in power 0.99

00:53:13.080 rather than this Islamic state top-down, forcing the gospel out, punishing Christians for speaking 0.91

00:53:20.120 the truth, those sorts of things. Yeah, well said. We want to get to the... We do, and this is almost 0.98

00:53:26.580 a little bit of a data point, at least in the new year, that the Trump administration might be kind

00:53:30.860 of taking some cues. So unrelated to ICE, Trump announced looking to ban large corporations from

00:53:35.740 owning single-family homes. Now, we've been chimping for this, us ourselves, many others,

00:53:40.160 for probably close to a year, if not longer than that.

00:53:43.320 And it's kind of cool to see, hey, we don't want 50-year mortgages.

00:53:46.180 We want big conglomerates, big hedge funds,

00:53:49.280 unable to buy single-family homes and rent them out

00:53:51.700 for pennies on the dollar forever, which is huge.

00:53:54.540 He also directed, this was just yesterday,

00:53:56.120 an unnamed entity to buy $200 billion worth of mortgage bonds.

00:53:59.920 That would help to drive down demand for the bonds,

00:54:02.600 lowering the interest rate,

00:54:03.560 which would make homes more affordable on your monthly payment.

00:54:06.780 So those are two Ws.

00:54:07.860 I think we could also say on the third point related to these ICE shootings, since the new

00:54:12.440 year, it seems like ICE has basically had the leash taken off. Even after the shooting, which

00:54:16.940 we're about to describe, Vice President J.D. Vance came out on X and he said, the Vice President,

00:54:21.540 the President, Congress, ICE, we have your back. You do something in the field of duty. You're

00:54:26.000 under duress. You're trying to do your job. It seems like you attempted to do it well. We have

00:54:30.640 your back. We're not here to criticize and put the microscope on and then step back and watch

00:54:35.160 your life be destroyed. Like Derek Chavin would be an example. The whole police force all basically

00:54:40.700 abandoning him, throwing him to the wolves of the social justice wars. This admin so far at least

00:54:45.460 has said, we're not going to do that. They were out, they were doing their job, they were resisted,

00:54:49.880 they were attacked, and they were justified. And so in the last 72 hours, there have been three

00:54:54.180 shootings involving ICE and Customs and Border Patrol, another agency tasked with deportations.

00:54:58.900 The first one, the bigger one, happened on Wednesday. It happened in Minnesota. Renee

00:55:04.040 Nicole Good, a mother, 37-year-old, mother of three, married to a woman. She was married

00:55:09.960 previously to two men with which she had her three children that she has now. Married to another

00:55:15.020 woman, so a lesbian, a social justice advocate to the max. Pride flag and bio, anti-ice. It even

00:55:23.280 appears some other sources have said she was trained, like she carried around a whistle,

00:55:26.860 like, uh-oh, ice is here. I'm blowing the whistle. If anyone's an illegal immigrant,

00:55:30.360 they can get out of the way radical social justice warrior you can watch the video we're not going to 1.00

00:55:35.300 play it here we're not going to do a legal analysis but she was blocking the way actively blocking the

00:55:40.260 way of officers attempting to do their job there's a confrontation an officer felt as though he's

00:55:44.680 about to be run over and she was shot and she was killed again in the backlash to that there's been

00:55:49.360 tons of it the mayor jacob fray there of minneapolis he's like ice needs to get the f out of

00:55:55.180 Minneapolis. So tons of resistance from local, local politicians, local leftists. This is what

00:56:02.060 ICE is encountering everywhere. They're encountering in Chicago. They're encountering in Portland.

00:56:05.880 They're encountering in Boston. They're going and people are hitting them. People are trying to take

00:56:09.920 their weapons away from them. People are taking cars and blocking the streets. We saw probably

00:56:14.540 eight to nine months ago in Los Angeles, pelting LAPD officers with bricks and rocks from overpasses.

00:56:20.260 and so ICE has continuously encountered this, but now you've kind of got a little bit of the

00:56:24.980 Empire Strikes Back. ICE agent said, no, you can't run over an ICE agent with your vehicle,

00:56:30.320 and if you attempt to do that, something that could kill a federal officer, we are permitted

00:56:35.020 to respond with force. The second story is even more flagrant, so now we're not just talking about,

00:56:41.040 yes, unfortunately, an American citizen, a mother, you know, maybe she got scared. In this case,

00:56:47.680 Yesterday, there was a shooting in Portland.

00:56:50.280 Two suspected Tren de Uruguay gang associates let loose on the American streets by Joe Biden

00:56:56.220 weaponized their vehicle against Border Patrol in Portland.

00:57:00.220 So taking your vehicle, attempting to run over Border Patrol agents.

00:57:02.880 The agent took immediate action to defend himself and others, shooting them.

00:57:06.420 The driver of the vehicle, listen to the type of people that are out here trying to run over ICE officers

00:57:11.000 and Border Patrol officers.

00:57:12.480 The driver of the vehicle, Luis David Nico Mancada, search that in the Civil War registry, if you will, is a criminal illegal alien from Venezuela and suspected Trendiuegua gang member.

00:57:26.060 He illegally entered in 2022 and was released, released into the country by the Biden admin.

00:57:32.720 Since then, he was arrested for DUI, not good, and unauthorized use of a vehicle.

00:57:37.920 He is a final order of removal.

00:57:39.900 so released into the country racked up felonies already and has an order to be removed his

00:57:45.940 passenger it doesn't get better from here your lenny's bet zabith zambrano contreras

00:57:54.240 terrible goodness is a criminal this was the passenger in the car that tried to run them over

00:57:59.120 a criminal illegal alien from venezuela and is associated as well with trendier wegua 0.91

00:58:03.200 she illegally entered the u.s in 2023 near el paso texas and was released into this country by

00:58:08.160 the biden admin since illegally entering law-abiding citizen pays her taxes being productive 0.97

00:58:13.360 oh she played an active role in the gang's prostitution ring and was involved in a prior 0.93

00:58:19.320 shooting in portland and so you have renee nicole good minneanapolis and then just yesterday in

00:58:24.800 portland two gang members a man with his prostitute attempting to run over border patrol agents and

00:58:30.920 the state per romans 13 which has the monopoly on lethal force says no we're done with that

00:58:37.740 To which we say, we mourn especially the loss of life. 0.55

00:58:40.700 That's sad, especially a woman. 1.00

00:58:42.360 It should not be women in confrontation with federal officers in the street. 1.00

00:58:46.360 But if she tries to run you over with her car, the state has been given force.

00:58:49.940 So we mourn the loss of life on that one.

00:58:51.560 It doesn't appear that these two have died from their wounds.

00:58:53.900 But we celebrate federal agents that have the weight of the law doing righteous work of deportation saying, no, we have guns for a reason.

00:59:03.340 Yes.

00:59:04.040 Yep.

00:59:04.440 You got to do it.

00:59:05.060 And it doesn't help when you have a sitting governor, Tim Walz, is actively saying, we need to peacefully protest what these ICE agents are doing.

00:59:12.900 You're seeing this pitting of sort of state authority against federal authority.

00:59:18.700 And it's actually, the Wall Street Journal reported yesterday, ICE shooting in Minnesota raises rare legal questions.

00:59:25.280 And so you have this shooting.

00:59:26.580 And basically what local prosecutors are saying is, we want to charge this guy.

00:59:30.300 We want to probe this guy for shooting this woman and put him in jail, similar to what we did with Derek Chauvin.

00:59:36.140 And the Trump administration, DHS, and the Justice Department aren't cooperating.

00:59:40.860 They're not going to let these state prosecutors and state officials be involved in this investigation and this probe into the shooting.

00:59:48.540 And this rift between the federal and state governments, it's really coming to a head.

00:59:52.800 If the similar thing is happening in Portland, you have Portland officials saying, protest ICE, protest what the Trump administration, the federal government is doing in our local cities.

01:00:02.400 And really, this is where we're at.

01:00:04.580 These leaders in these states, these state officials, the governor of Minnesota saying these things, they are causing this conflict. 0.57

01:00:11.900 They are indirectly the cause of these kinds of deaths because they are not allowing the federal government to actually do their legal duty, which is to find illegal immigrants and send them out of the country.

01:00:25.540 That is the Trump administration's prerogative.

01:00:27.880 They have control of immigration policy.

01:00:29.720 They have control of ICE and DHS, and they should be allowed to do their jobs undeterred by residents of these locales in these states.

01:00:39.140 You know which women have never been shot by ICE?

01:00:41.900 women inside their homes making pies shout out to mostly peaceful merchandise he gave us a two

01:00:48.480 dollar super chat so true king he said ice has never shot women making pies if we could just 0.88

01:00:54.660 make women great again right by getting women to make great pies again staying in their domestic

01:00:59.800 sphere a lady of the hearth not out in the public square protesting and for the record i would also 0.99

01:01:06.120 include social media as the digital form of the public square so i'd like to get women out of that

01:01:10.880 too what did he just yes yes so women go home digitally go home right you don't need to be

01:01:19.000 shouting and berating men in the public square digitally on social media and you certainly

01:01:24.920 don't need to be using your car to try to run over ice workers um in the physical public square

01:01:31.720 um you want to be a woman and and and be safe it's like i can't believe this happened i don't

01:01:37.700 know what country i'm living in what does the world come to i don't feel safe for my life there's a

01:01:42.740 very safe place for you if you can't take the heat get back in the kitchen in this case right

01:01:49.180 if you can't take the heat get back in the kitchen and god will bless it immensely all right this is

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01:06:02.260 uh this is savad dakota davis it's just backwards he just puts it backwards yeah so it's dakota

01:06:11.340 davis um 86 18 do you read the number backwards too i don't know i don't know but uh he gave us

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01:06:23.480 underneath it he said my super chat wouldn't send with my comment attached so here it is if you're

01:06:29.680 going to publicly use the serrated edge with a nagging woman make sure to use a bad word

01:06:37.100 oh the c word um or it's sin okay so this requires some frame some reference because

01:06:44.820 there's a lot of people tuning in like what in the world is he talking about uh so basically

01:06:48.340 there's um there's a reformed minister i'm just going to try not to pick on him leave him alone

01:06:52.940 But a reformed minister who famously used the C word describing a couple of women in one of his blogs, Once Upon a Time, a few years ago, and that was categorized, not by everybody.

01:07:07.860 Some people, you know, there was backlash, but some people really defended him and said, this is appropriate use of language and use of that word.

01:07:14.880 It was spelled out in the blog.

01:07:16.400 Did you say what was done that warranted calling a woman that?

01:07:20.880 Yeah. 0.77

01:07:21.040 Someone had melted down purity rings and formed with them a statute of an anatomical region.

01:07:27.140 Yes.

01:07:27.520 Literally. 0.80

01:07:28.080 A woman who self-professed, I think satanic priestess, 1.00

01:07:30.900 that said, I'm going to take purity rings from Christians that have discarded them. 1.00

01:07:33.920 I'm going to melt them down and form a statute. 0.99

01:07:36.400 A phallus?

01:07:36.760 Even worse.

01:07:37.880 Worse.

01:07:39.300 I'm going to form a statute even worse than the golden calf.

01:07:41.800 That's why he said, you're acting like X, Y, Z.

01:07:45.240 That's right.

01:07:45.680 Yep.

01:07:45.960 And then, yeah, said the word. 0.99

01:07:47.060 But the point is that, you know, I got in a lot of trouble the other day for, you know, calling a particular woman retarded online because she was acting retarded.

01:07:57.560 And, you know, and people are saying, well, it's OK when this reform minister over here uses the C word, but it's not OK. 0.53

01:08:04.320 So anyways, that's the framework. If you're wondering the reference, that's what Dakota Davis is saying is he's being sarcastic and saying, hey, you're allowed to use a serrated edge.

01:08:13.520 right? Sharp rhetoric, um, online, uh, you know, towards women, even, uh, so long as you call them

01:08:19.700 the worst, uh, the worst word you possibly could trick just in there. But if you do it the way

01:08:25.120 that I did, which is actually much lighter, uh, then, um, you're going to get in trouble, which

01:08:29.840 the, the real, I mean, we all know the real reason it's because I'm Joel Webin. I think you even

01:08:34.420 clarified too. You said the average woman on social media. I was careful. So some people have

01:08:38.200 said like, Oh, he's talking about his daughters. Why would he talk about his daughter? My daughters

01:08:41.220 are not on social media oh but he's talking about his wife uh life hack my wife is not on social

01:08:45.920 media uh so no uh and your mother no my mom no um incredible yeah so uh the women in my life who

01:08:53.800 are willing to listen to me and uh and and you know love me and respect me and take my counsel 0.89

01:08:59.140 um those women are not on social media they're not even if they're not being retarded you said 1.00

01:09:03.400 average i said average that's right and here's the thing women tend not to understand averages 0.90

01:09:08.600 and generalities but yes so i did not say all women are retarded i didn't even say all women 0.85

01:09:13.860 on social media are retarded i said the average woman who is on social media and what i'm implying 0.83

01:09:18.960 there is not just you know they have a facebook to keep up with their friends but they're you know 0.82

01:09:22.700 they're actively speaking into the culture and these kinds of things trying to build a following 0.87

01:09:27.040 leading influencing on social media yes that the average woman doing that is retarded and i don't 0.88

01:09:34.740 think i really have to uh i think i have a have to make a case for that i think like do i have to 0.89

01:09:40.740 name names of female influencers i think i think i think we can all say uh yeah that's that's true

01:09:46.580 i mean none of them would go so far as like blasphemously melting down purity rings right

01:09:51.200 oh yeah okay all right anyways next super chat wes you are and i can take it uh so man award

01:09:57.860 sent five dollars we greatly appreciate that and just says america first amen great wes all right

01:10:03.660 code harder not smarter 582 eric prince for president of the united states yes and amen

01:10:09.740 yeah um he had a great i think it was 25 billion dollars he said i will carry out something like

01:10:14.380 six figures worth of deportations a month here's my plan to do it he offered the government it

01:10:18.720 very early on last year he said i'll make it happen with private contractors he's the founder

01:10:23.860 of blackwater correct which is a bad group of dudes these dudes do not mess around right the

01:10:30.140 government has rules i was in the military our military has rules they have to abide by

01:10:34.020 blackwater the things they did in the middle east as contractors they got the job done let's just

01:10:39.160 say that and eric prince a year ago he'd offered hey 25 billion dollars i'll take care of this

01:10:43.220 you can use us to track down 1.5 million immigrants illegal immigrants in the united

01:10:48.000 states is what he offered and uh they haven't taken them up on it yet so hopefully they do 0.99

01:10:52.320 especially if we don't improve these deportation numbers sooner but even as president i love it

01:10:57.800 Yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool. Chris Tisking, he gave a super chat, said, maybe you addressed it,

01:11:04.700 but a lot of people don't believe this nationalist uprising in Iran is organic. What do we think

01:11:11.720 about that? That's some of what the current regime is saying right now in Iran. This is

01:11:17.720 foreign influence. The US is backing these protests. It's tough to tell what the end game 0.86

01:11:23.500 of the United States would be in backing them. It's also notable, too, when you note these

01:11:27.960 uprisings. You, of course, have the Shah's son, but you don't really have, as far as I'm aware,

01:11:33.200 as much as I can see from Western media, you don't have a single party or a single leader

01:11:37.460 kind of leading it. Remember, this is across all 31 provinces in Iran right now. So you have all

01:11:42.340 31 provinces, lack of a unified leader, a unified, cohesive structure, and their angst doesn't seem

01:11:48.240 to be we want this thing instead we're rooting for a puppet a prop up that would be great to the 0.88

01:11:54.880 u.s for this reason or what have you you just kind of have life sucks we want to be able to eat we

01:12:00.320 want food and so i would have to see some type of motivation we're funding x y and z we're funding

01:12:06.000 this group like a taliban or something like that we're doing that because we think they'll be

01:12:09.920 better for us here i haven't seen the justification for that as much as i've seen seems relatively

01:12:15.120 organic and straightforward. People want to eat. That's pretty organic. You usually don't have to

01:12:21.440 have foreign government influence to incentivize people to want to be able to feed their kids.

01:12:27.580 That comes pretty naturally. And to be fair, I think the only place that we could acquiesce in

01:12:32.820 terms of the inorganic nature of this is the sanctions. I think you can say, you could make

01:12:37.600 the argument, and it would be plausible and reasonable to consider that the U.S.'s actions

01:12:43.220 on behalf of Israel, because remember, Israel's whole argument is Iran is funding all of these

01:12:48.520 sort of terrorist networks and organizations that are affecting Israel. So they would say Hezbollah,

01:12:53.760 for example, Iranian backed, and Iran is sort of the boogeyman, if you will. And so to the extent

01:13:00.000 that Western nations are applying economic sanctions that are hurting the people there,

01:13:04.980 you could argue that it's inorganic. But at the individual level, if I'm just an Iranian citizen,

01:13:09.940 and I'm struggling to put food on the table

01:13:11.820 or I'm struggling to literally pay my bills

01:13:15.080 to outpace inflation.

01:13:16.940 If I don't pay my electric bill today,

01:13:19.900 tomorrow it's going to be two times as much as it is today.

01:13:22.800 And so those kinds of factors,

01:13:24.620 those economic factors are certainly organic.

01:13:27.060 They're certainly felt at this sort of individual level

01:13:30.120 within the nation.

01:13:31.160 So that's how I would lay it out.

01:13:32.480 So good comment and time will have to tell.

01:13:34.100 Yeah, it takes time.

01:13:35.240 All right, Cody Legaline.

01:13:38.600 Legaline, yep.

01:13:39.940 Appreciate that.

01:13:40.920 Gave us a super chat.

01:13:41.820 He said, I enjoyed your series with Nick Fuentes.

01:13:44.600 I appreciate your guys' work.

01:13:47.120 How close do you think that we are to federal military versus state?

01:13:51.020 I would say that the conditions are set and that it's very close to meriting that.

01:13:56.360 That said, I also want to hedge my bets.

01:13:59.000 So in terms of justifying it, I think we're just about there.

01:14:03.000 in terms of will it actually happen uh the nothing ever happens bros win 99 of of bets

01:14:10.740 for a reason so um i think uh that right now i i don't really see that's kind of what we're

01:14:17.560 saying earlier in terms of trump's second term i don't see him i i don't feel like i have the

01:14:23.620 precedent for donald trump crossing the rubicon to say yeah he'll cross it here um i feel like

01:14:29.620 he has stayed his hand. He's been reserved. He's not really fully producing, executing the things

01:14:36.040 that he said that he would. So right now, it doesn't feel very likely. But if we're trying

01:14:41.160 to just simply make an argument of whether or not it would be justified, Tim Walz, in my assessment,

01:14:45.700 if you can get the president of Venezuela within 48 hours, send the teams in, kidnap him, take him

01:14:50.800 over here to the United States, I believe that Tim Walz should be, SEAL Team 6 should be sent in.

01:14:57.480 they should take him they should bring him uh to the white house he should be given a fair trial

01:15:02.380 um and then after that he should be hung for treason yeah and not to be a constitution bro

01:15:08.340 but uh even if you think about constitution george washington said that by the way

01:15:11.640 hanging for treason yeah yeah it's true uh and it happened in the revolutionary war um so but but

01:15:18.020 just to go back to the constitution and and make this point very clear which is in the preamble of

01:15:22.720 the Constitution. Why is this government being formed? One of those clauses or one of those

01:15:27.160 points is to promote the general welfare. That is the point of the Constitution, one of the points

01:15:31.700 and one of the purposes and ends of the Constitution. The president is the chief executive

01:15:37.020 and is to carry out his constitutional duty. If you think about supremacy, the supremacy clause

01:15:42.180 contained within the Constitution, the federal government in specific realms and particularly

01:15:47.240 common defense, promoting the general welfare, domestic tranquility, all of these aspects, 0.91

01:15:51.680 It is the federal government's predominant, predominant, I'll say that, predominant prerogative to be able to export illegal immigrants. 0.61

01:16:00.980 All that to say, if we really do have a context of federal versus state, what we're talking about here is state and particularly democratic and liberal state governors breaking the law, saying the federal government can't carry out its mandate that is contained within the Constitution.

01:16:16.440 and and constitutional scholars and legal scholars will say this if they're honest and so that's just

01:16:23.020 all that to say if this does happen if if it won't it won't necessarily even be trump crossing

01:16:28.640 the rubicon it will be these democratic officials crossing well and but it won't feel like that

01:16:34.280 because they've already crossed the rubicon for decades uh that's what uh it took me a while to

01:16:39.640 figure this out but um you don't really even hardly need a king i'd be i would probably be

01:16:45.640 cool with a king but um people forget because it's been so long it's never happened in my lifetime

01:16:51.740 it's been a very long time but on paper according to the rules uh the president of the united states

01:16:58.040 has extraordinary executive powers right executive execution executive go hand in hand guys it's in

01:17:07.320 the name um but no he has extraordinary powers and so it's not like every time trump has has

01:17:12.720 tapped into you know a drop of what's actually afforded to him in what the founders envisioned

01:17:19.080 for the president what he was able to do people are fascist uh not even close not even close um

01:17:26.160 he there's so much that he could do and uh with with being perfectly constitutional and so um

01:17:32.840 but he has to do it it's like oh well the judges are holding him up no guys it's like that that's 0.97

01:17:38.980 so silly it's like oh the judges are holding that judge is a 120 pound you know uh black woman 0.91

01:17:44.840 she's not holding him an obama appointee right in like an unrelated state she's not holding him up 1.00

01:17:49.940 trump you have you have an army like well she's holding up with paperwork that's great burn the

01:17:56.300 papers go in be president save the country you're the guy who tweeted out he who saves his country

01:18:04.500 violates no law let's see it do it we've got a country to save no more playing games no arrest 0.82

01:18:10.720 him walls bring him to dc try him and hang him honor christ save the country this is what this

01:18:19.960 is what we got to do that's my opinion tell us how you i'll just say briefly on states too 0.98

01:18:24.440 the states where you won't see conflict there's a program called 287g where ice and local law

01:18:29.800 enforcement collaborate that's the biggest thing that would have to happen is local officers

01:18:33.880 would have to feel this antagonism towards ICE.

01:18:37.440 But there are about 10 states.

01:18:38.900 So about 40 states have this 287G program.

01:18:41.180 They collaborate with federal law enforcement,

01:18:43.380 specifically ICE.

01:18:44.900 There's about 10 states, your Californias,

01:18:46.600 your Connecticut, Washington, Oregon, Illinois.

01:18:49.780 They don't collaborate.

01:18:51.020 And so if you're going to see conflict,

01:18:52.880 federal versus state,

01:18:54.160 it's going to be in those states.

01:18:55.340 And it would be because your mayors and your governors 0.99

01:18:58.040 drive a wedge between law enforcement,

01:19:00.860 work them up and say,

01:19:02.220 ICE is not a federal agent

01:19:03.360 that you need to be collaborating with on law enforcement,

01:19:06.020 on all these different things,

01:19:07.460 driving away to say, no, they're the enemy.

01:19:09.640 But honestly, if you're a cop, a local law enforcement guy,

01:19:13.380 it means you're probably not 300 pounds,

01:19:15.520 you know how to use a gun,

01:19:16.600 and you know a little bit how to fight.

01:19:18.300 And there's not very many of those people,

01:19:20.240 not very many of those men that also aren't pro-deportation.

01:19:24.060 Let's just be honest.

01:19:24.920 Local law enforcement is 90% right-wing guys.

01:19:29.300 NYPD and the U.S. Marines were the two organizations

01:19:31.720 that had more giving to Trump than to, I think, it was Biden in the 2020.

01:19:36.760 Every other, your Citibank, your Google, all of it blew.

01:19:40.840 NYPD, U.S. Marines, the most masculine men out there,

01:19:44.540 they were the ones that donated to Trump.

01:19:45.940 So local law enforcement, LAPD, California PD turning on ice, maybe?

01:19:53.180 I don't know if I see it, though.

01:19:54.920 Yeah, that's a good point. 0.96

01:19:56.180 All right, Bebo Pococo.

01:19:58.620 Bebo Pococo.

01:19:59.500 Bebo Pococo.

01:20:00.360 Bebo Pococo.

01:20:01.720 All right. Anyways, he gave us a super chat. We appreciate that. He said,

01:20:06.020 thank you, Joel and crew. You have brought me hope. Can you recommend a church in the Denver

01:20:11.820 metro area? If it's a church like ours, then the answer is no. If it's a decent church,

01:20:18.180 because opting out of going to church period is not a viable option for a Christian, somebody who

01:20:26.020 follows Christ. You've got to go to church, even if the church isn't everything that you would want

01:20:30.120 it to be so a church like ours no um but a church that would be decent that you could go to um i'm

01:20:37.660 sure there's one is there anything we can so he's technically in boulder chase davis's church uh but

01:20:42.400 that's northwest of denver it's a bit of a drive but it's called the well church um so you you

01:20:47.000 could go there that's the only one i'm aware of okay there was on on the right response uh uh

01:20:52.140 one of the podcasts i think we got a super chat about a church in colorado at some point probably

01:20:56.240 a little far away if you remember that.

01:20:58.560 That's right. Hey, guys, that's a person

01:21:00.580 who just...

01:21:02.420 What's the name of that church?

01:21:05.580 Tech guys.

01:21:08.420 You can send me an email.

01:21:11.480 Wesley at

01:21:12.360 nxrstudios.com.

01:21:14.060 I think his name is Kevin.

01:21:16.260 What's the guy's name?

01:21:18.100 You literally sent me an email.

01:21:20.120 I would also say, too, there was an initiative.

01:21:22.100 It was called Fight 312.

01:21:24.380 It was a law banning people from

01:21:26.140 using the wrong pronouns for someone else and a number of different churches in the area including

01:21:30.320 the well church they band together as well so you have decent amount of pastors you could look at

01:21:34.440 that fight 312 it was like an organization it had a web page with names got it look at the pastors

01:21:38.860 that stood up against that law in colorado as well yeah that's a good way to go um here's a guy

01:21:43.100 i believe he's in colorado somewhere near uh denver um i'll give you his email it's uh at zach

01:21:50.180 z-a-c-h kohlberg k-u-l is that two l's l-l-b-e-r-g-1 the number one at gmail.com so

01:22:05.500 zach with a c-h not c-k and then kohlberg k-u-l-l-b-e-r-g-1 the number one at gmail.com

01:22:16.700 I believe that that is a local pastor who is Christian nationalist and shares a lot of the

01:22:21.280 same values that we do, who I'm pretty sure, if memory serves, he's in Colorado. And for somebody

01:22:28.580 who doesn't live in Colorado, all of Colorado is Denver. I was about to say, in my mind, it's

01:22:33.640 Colorado, Denver, they're the same picture. Yeah, the same picture. Okay, next one. This dude rocks.

01:22:38.980 He's a consistent supporter. We really appreciate that. He said, I'm not familiar with Ruslan,

01:22:44.720 but I want to say that I commend you for willingly inviting and accommodating a guest on your show

01:22:51.480 that disagrees. More Christian content creators need to encourage good faith discussions across

01:22:58.040 lines. Yeah. So, uh, cat's out of the bag. We are going to have Ruslan. I don't know what his last

01:23:03.160 name is. Katie. Katie is not a name. Um, but, uh, yeah, so, um, I, I did a post about, um, because

01:23:13.140 well it all ties together you know the woman who uh who i responded to about you know women on 0.90

01:23:19.880 social media the average woman on social media being retarded uh it was in that same post um 0.86

01:23:24.160 she uh basically was saying that uh joel you know she was asserting that you know joel wants 0.97

01:23:30.500 capital punishment for interracial marriage which is not even close to my position i do not want 0.99

01:23:36.640 that let the record state um so she you know she woke up began her day with breakfast and slander 0.56

01:23:42.560 right so another day that ends in Y for this individual and uh and so I was responding to her

01:23:47.900 and explaining um you know what my position would be and what other people in my sphere of Christian

01:23:54.420 nationalism what they would think and some of the reasoning for that and uh and people lost their

01:23:59.800 mind because interracial marriage is a sacrament um of the post-war consensus and so um Ruslan was

01:24:06.700 one of the people was like what happened to Joel you know he's lost his mind he used to be such a

01:24:11.080 great guy, you know, cause I went out on his show, I think he said a year ago, but I looked back,

01:24:14.800 it was, I think summer of 2023. So, um, about, what would that be about two and a half years

01:24:20.660 coming up on three years ago? Uh, he invited me, which was very gracious. I appreciate it,

01:24:25.160 uh, to go on a show and talk about theonomy. And he was like, you know, he went on my show and,

01:24:29.120 and Ruslan is, you know, he's a white guy who's married to a black woman. He's in an interracial

01:24:33.840 marriage. And he was like, and he didn't, you know, he seemed fine with my marriage then,

01:24:36.740 you know what happened to him and it's like if i went and visited his home today i it wouldn't be

01:24:42.980 any different what am i going to do sit at the dinner table and say i disapprove of you like

01:24:46.320 and that's that's not even my position and so anyways i think he is uh very confused and um

01:24:52.500 he's you know he's just he's a liberal he's a christian he's a brother in christ but he is

01:24:57.420 a liberal and uh 20th century liberalism um you know dressing itself up as christianity is

01:25:03.580 what he and not to pick on him that's 90 percent of christians today they just they don't get it

01:25:07.740 they think they think that what what calls itself christianity for the last 60 years is what

01:25:13.960 christianity has always been for 2 000 years and they're just they're just not familiar that um

01:25:18.680 that anybody has ever believed anything before the 1960s so uh he's he's not unusually liberal

01:25:24.640 you know he's just kind of your he's a normie he's he's just the typical um christian guy today

01:25:30.920 who thinks that's, I don't know, whatever.

01:25:34.720 So we're going to try to be respectful

01:25:36.920 and we've invited him and he's going to bring a guest, right?

01:25:39.860 So it's not three on one.

01:25:40.980 I said, hey, you can bring a guy.

01:25:42.520 And so we are, I think we are scheduled to release that.

01:25:46.800 We're going to try to, if we can, we'll do it live.

01:25:49.480 But it depends when he's able to come out.

01:25:51.820 But the goal is either doing it live

01:25:53.780 or releasing it next Thursday.

01:25:57.220 Next Thursday, is it that fast?

01:25:58.880 Six days from now? 0.99

01:25:59.780 nice it's that fast so that's going to be a banger um it's going to be you know uh him

01:26:05.620 articulating his position and me articulating my position and having a chance to to clarify

01:26:12.380 what that position is and i won't take the time to get into all all the different details of that

01:26:17.420 right now so yes uh we are going to have ruslan on the show and we're uh honored that he's willing

01:26:23.080 to come there we go all right all right anomic anomic 2705 sent a super chat thank you and they

01:26:28.900 said this is a high compliment this channel is based nice love it praise god all right the edger 0.60

01:26:34.900 whistle longtime supporter sending a super chat said may i ask why any use the word retarded as

01:26:40.900 is why use the word retarded uh it's a good word i think it's a good word um it's um well it's kind 0.71

01:26:49.780 of you know to quote uh the great michael scott right you don't um you don't call someone retarded 0.89

01:26:58.380 who's actually retarded but you call your friends retarded when they're acting retarded um no it's i 0.87

01:27:04.480 i i just think that some of these words we've given them too much power uh there is power the 0.91

01:27:10.520 power of life and death and the tongue the bible speaks of this uh but some of these words we've

01:27:15.160 just we've mystified them we we've like we we've holstered them up as though as though it's some

01:27:22.380 kind of magical spell um no it's no and also i i would also make the argument um that that mock

01:27:30.200 mockery is a a powerful tactic um part of the reason that that we have so many problems that

01:27:36.340 we do today is because we have a theater kid occupied government we have uh we have the class

01:27:41.940 of individuals that historically uh would have been without any legislation without any formal 0.80

01:27:48.220 you know process would have just been culturally ostracized you know like shut up nerd right like

01:27:54.280 they would have been bullied um and and nature is healing uh and and i thank god for that i i really

01:28:01.160 i see that i see that there is a a recourse there's a return as the kids was we must return

01:28:06.800 and there's there is like a return to the natural order uh where um theater kids and uh and actually

01:28:15.500 nerds don't get to be in charge anymore because when they are people people die um they're

01:28:21.760 actually very very cruel people uh skinny little nerds who um who come in with all their ideas of 0.87

01:28:30.160 basically gay race communism that's i mean you can basically summarize the 20th century 0.93

01:28:35.380 as um as a theater kid occupied western governments and so uh being able to say no

01:28:43.680 we're not doing that anymore as sam i said not when we're not doing that anymore you're getting

01:28:48.140 called a slur um i think there's actually something profound to that proverbs talks a lot 0.99

01:28:53.040 about the fool too again and again it uses this term to say stop being foolish stop being retarded 0.99

01:29:00.900 it's a powerful word to say you are not thinking right now don't think with your belly don't think 1.00

01:29:06.360 with your your instincts don't think with lust wisen up shape up listen to discipline and so to 0.86

01:29:12.180 say to someone in a modern context you're acting retarded seriously use your brain grow up use some 0.85

01:29:19.080 discipline that is to speak exactly the way tons of biblical authors spoke in the bible yep they 0.84

01:29:24.580 use sharp language there is a biblical precedent for using very sharp language biblical authors 0.96

01:29:30.720 in scripture called certain individuals certain women whores um harlots uh yeah there's there's 0.93

01:29:38.680 some sharp language as an example in the Bible. Okay, next one. What's the next one? 0.93

01:29:43.920 Josiah B. Dyer sent $5 and says, curious to know if y'all have listened to, and if so,

01:29:51.280 what you think about Simon Dixon's take on current global restructuring of power.

01:29:55.980 I have not heard it. I haven't, unfortunately.

01:29:58.060 Either. Sounds interesting, though.

01:29:59.280 Sounds interesting.

01:30:00.120 We'll check it out. All right, this dude rocks again, coming in second time. What is the actual

01:30:06.200 roadblock among christian public speakers from sitting down to discuss differences how much of

01:30:12.520 it is pride genuinely believing their side or political fears uh seems as though division

01:30:19.580 reigns um yeah i i think a lot of it honestly is just we've said this before i'll say it again

01:30:24.380 it's a turf war um it really is uh because what what i've seen is guys who are you know

01:30:30.840 on the right whether they are or not you know or that you know it's a sliding scale it's not just

01:30:36.160 like right left there's there's you know a spectrum um guys who are more right leaning

01:30:41.240 ministers pastors have always been willing to associate and host somebody for a conversation

01:30:46.660 to their left you know somebody who uh you know who they disagree with you know but who's who's

01:30:53.140 more liberal than they are um but usually not more right and i think it's it's not for it's

01:31:00.040 not for principled reasons it is very much for practical bottom line turf war you know reasons

01:31:06.040 because there's a brand to think about, after all,

01:31:10.180 and the brand for some of these guys is we're the rowdy bunch.

01:31:14.380 We're the muscular wing of Christianity or whatever.

01:31:21.240 And so to host somebody who's rowdier isn't a great look for their brand

01:31:27.700 because they were supposed to be that.

01:31:30.200 So I really do think that the real reason is not a principled reason.

01:31:35.500 I think the real reason in many cases is simply that would not be good for the brand.

01:31:42.320 Yeah, I think we're still holding on to this sort of liberal consensus that dominated the 2010s, which is like if you talk to someone, it's akin to sort of like endorsing them.

01:31:53.180 Right.

01:31:53.340 And I think even people on the right sort of subscribe to that, mostly implicitly.

01:31:59.500 And I think a lot of that's going on.

01:32:01.360 I think it's just it's optics.

01:32:04.120 it's to your point pragmatism and and and sort of visually i don't want to be seen with the person

01:32:10.060 i don't want to endorse their views um and so yeah i think i think we're breaking out of that

01:32:15.180 though i think the spell is breaking nature is healing right exactly over as the overton window

01:32:19.640 shifts uh uh what were considered sort of undiscussable topics are becoming discussable

01:32:26.800 um that's why for example we're gonna we're gonna have uh ruslan here right to talk about something

01:32:31.600 that even seven years ago 10 years ago would just be unfathomable it's just like you couldn't talk

01:32:36.600 to someone about that you couldn't argue about that so right even the next series like this

01:32:40.240 episode from tuesday what is world jewelry like that is not something that even two years ago

01:32:45.360 would have received a claim appreciation this was super helpful it would be like

01:32:49.720 off the reservation can't believe this can't believe shut it down shut it down um and today

01:32:55.700 it's like wow super helpful well explained thank you for bringing people to that that's just two

01:33:01.100 years how things have changed forget 10 to 20 yep right okay uh antonio will you take the next one

01:33:06.580 yep uh sean meager 1581 sent five dollars and says what can you say about the idea that

01:33:12.740 the america first movement is actually uh to identify enemies love the recent content well

01:33:18.700 i'll read it again what can you say about the idea that the america first movement is actually

01:33:23.160 to identify enemies that's true i yeah i think that's absolutely true i think by putting forward

01:33:29.400 a certain standard it's it's a litmus test like it's you know it's kind of a you know like gideon

01:33:35.000 where he takes all his men down you know to the pool to drink you know and the ones who lap it up

01:33:39.900 like a dog versus the ones who scoop up the water in their hands you know it's kind of a it's it's

01:33:45.120 like the meme you know where uh you know is it is it three like this you know or three like this

01:33:51.680 you know are you english or german let's say what's your tell right what's the giveaway and um

01:33:57.520 And, you know, some of these America first, you know, messaging and virtues that are being put forward really are serving as a litmus test to kind of smoke out the people who are really just, they're not MAGA, they're MIGA.

01:34:14.240 They want to make Israel great.

01:34:16.320 And I think Thomas Massey has done a great job with that.

01:34:19.980 I mean, he really has exposed so many people.

01:34:23.920 it's like okay so yeah you you say you love america you want to make it great again okay can we

01:34:28.660 get a list of uh the pedophiles can we do that on american girls right oh we can't do that why

01:34:36.180 oh massad was involved oh israeli intelligence and there's some connections here okay so then

01:34:43.220 you're not really for america you're for israel right um and so yeah so i think i think america

01:34:50.260 first, I think it's viable. I think it has legs and I think it's going to take some time. So I

01:34:54.640 don't, I don't think it's necessarily 2028, you know, Nick Fuentes is going to be president. I

01:34:58.360 don't think he'd be qualified. You got to be 35. Um, I think it'd have to be like 2032, but, uh,

01:35:03.660 so I'm not, I'm not predicting something like that, uh, in the very near future. Um, but I do

01:35:09.200 think, you know, you're going to have to let it cook America first for a little bit, but I, I 0.77

01:35:12.840 really think by 2032, 2036, for sure, uh, America first will have every bit of the momentum and

01:35:20.080 the weight, the significance as MAGA has in the past.

01:35:23.540 And in the meantime, the kind of foreshadowed,

01:35:28.940 just the tremors, right, before the big earthquake that goes off,

01:35:33.520 just the tremors of America First now

01:35:35.600 are already making MAGA have to shape up a little bit.

01:35:40.240 It's working as kind of like a rule of law

01:35:43.580 of just constantly exposing the neocons

01:35:51.200 and the Israel-first shills and those kinds of things.

01:35:54.560 We'll get a sense, too.

01:35:55.260 These two candidates that we're about to have on,

01:35:56.820 James Fishback and Casey,

01:35:58.420 their primaries, they have an uphill battle to win.

01:36:00.880 But if you win 30% of the vote on an anti-immigration,

01:36:04.620 anti-H1B visa, so it's like, well, it's legal immigration.

01:36:07.580 Don't care.

01:36:08.540 Anti-AI farms or AI data servers 0.80

01:36:11.560 going in all over Florida farmland.

01:36:13.180 we're going to get to see how well that message resonates with floridans yeah we're gonna see in

01:36:17.420 august with casey i believe uh february is the primary we're going to see how much the anti

01:36:23.000 vebecca's running as a republican how much the anti-foreigner against sentiment how much that's

01:36:28.300 catching on it could be 10 it could be 30 maybe they even win a primary but those are going to

01:36:33.580 be great litmus tests early on to see okay does this message resonate with 20 of florida voters

01:36:39.400 oh it does that's just a couple years in two years right 20 percent of people have been won

01:36:43.960 over to our cause well then you just run it back run the play and in 2030 eight years later or 10

01:36:50.400 years later because this would be the midterms um 2036 then uh this will be i i i think that it's

01:36:58.400 it's we're we're very close i think within just a matter of years to where um if you're a politician

01:37:05.000 who's uh pro-israel you're like and you're you're hiding uh you're hiding your israeli flag

01:37:12.920 underneath the floorboards yeah um you're turning down apac money you're turning down apac money

01:37:17.960 uh putting skin in the game yeah well because you're like if i take money from apac if i have

01:37:22.700 an israeli flag in the office i'm done it's suicide for a politician in america that day is coming

01:37:28.700 and i would just say quickly on in terms of political movements because someone might say

01:37:32.340 well, what about the Tea Party movement? What about all of these movements that for a short

01:37:36.920 period of time, two to four years, exhibited this mass fervor and growing sentiment, and then they

01:37:43.720 fizzled out. And no one belongs to that movement anymore. No one really claims that movement. A lot

01:37:48.160 of people denounce the movement and those sorts of things. The Tea Party of the 2010s, the alt-right

01:37:52.340 of 2016. Right. And so, and the question would stand into, okay, what is different about America

01:37:57.040 first and and i think it comes back to this idea politically speaking which is movements can't be

01:38:03.100 defined movements that want to live long can't be defined only by what they're against right a

01:38:07.600 movement has to know what it's for it has to have a policy prescription answers you need information

01:38:13.400 you need money you need power and consolidation and all of those things they take smart men they

01:38:19.860 take men like fishback right they take men who are educated they understand the political landscape

01:38:24.940 They know how to navigate through it, avoiding the snaps, the chasms, the snares, all of those things that people set out for them to move toward something, to move toward a specific policy goal or achievement.

01:38:38.040 And I think we're seeing a lot of that emerge out of the America First movement, which was at one point a lot of just discontent, a lot of, well, I don't like that and I don't like that.

01:38:47.360 And it's all sort of, it's all being synthesized.

01:38:50.400 It's all sort of consolidating into a set of ideas, or one might say even a doctrine.

01:38:55.020 And that doctrine has legs.

01:38:57.160 Yep.

01:38:57.520 Well said.

01:38:58.420 All right.

01:38:58.780 Here's the next one.

01:38:59.800 This is from Justin JMZ.

01:39:03.660 He said, can't wait to read the book, right?

01:39:06.480 He's talking about this little bad boy right here.

01:39:09.000 Not so little.

01:39:09.700 Hyphenated heresy, not so little, 250 pages and thoroughly footnoted.

01:39:14.080 The hyphenated heresy, Judeo-Christianity.

01:39:17.020 myself and jordan hall are the authors with that we're really excited uh released it at this point

01:39:22.640 what uh one week exactly one week last friday is when we released it and we are uh closing in on

01:39:29.660 1500 copies sold at this point so well over a thousand we are blown away and humbled and just

01:39:35.820 really grateful to you guys and the positive response that the book has received it certainly

01:39:40.980 received a negative response as well but um but i will say a lot of people they're digging into it

01:39:46.380 and they're like this is awesome can't wait to finish it and so it's not just i bought the book

01:39:49.920 i'm excited because our guys published something right oh and i'm actually reading it oh it's

01:39:53.880 actually good and yeah and and it really is uh helpful as just a constant resource that you'll

01:40:00.580 be able to go back to um because because of the footnotes and the citations and all those kinds

01:40:05.500 of things so um it won't just make an argument you know emoting but actually a logical argument

01:40:11.600 and give you citations for where this actually happened.

01:40:14.760 It brings receipts.

01:40:15.940 It brings receipts.

01:40:16.720 So definitely check out the book. 0.86

01:40:18.540 Again, it's The Hyphenated Heresy, Judeo-Christianity.

01:40:22.700 It's on Amazon right now.

01:40:23.800 You can just search it.

01:40:25.760 Or if you join our Patreon,

01:40:28.840 you'll get early access for all 10 parts of the Nick series.

01:40:32.380 We just released on Wednesday the second episode,

01:40:35.040 so you're looking at still like eight weeks

01:40:36.540 if you want to get the rest of the series

01:40:38.060 with it dripping out on its weekly schedule to the public.

01:40:40.840 but if you want to get early access ad free to the whole uh nick fuentes series um you can sign

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01:41:03.060 book that way as well by signing up for uh i think it's the gold tier on patreon um but yeah

01:41:10.280 thanks for your your encouragement we appreciate it the book's doing really well uh next one is

01:41:14.220 striker striker said how gay was nick fuentes in person and my answer is not gay at all no yeah we

01:41:21.720 had a great time yeah he was very courteous when we were here we had a great very respectful uh

01:41:25.660 great time okay this one i'm gonna need help uh wes you're terminally online so i trust that uh

01:41:31.200 that you know what this means but poop smith one two three all right that's i'm just reading the

01:41:35.920 name. I'm glad you read the name. He said, yeah, I read it. I read it. He said, so it turns out

01:41:40.640 William Wolfe's based Christian Prince was actually just J.D. Vance this entire time. What does he

01:41:46.100 mean by that? I think he's saying William Wolfe, others, Josh Abitoy. Prior to Trump's inauguration,

01:41:52.320 Trump getting the nomination, going on to become president, they had a lot of rhetoric. We still

01:41:56.240 have it. I mean, Stephen Wolfe, maybe he's referencing Stephen Wolfe. Stephen Wolfe has a

01:42:00.580 chapter in his book, The Case for Christian Nationalism, on the Christian Prince. And so

01:42:04.280 Prior to all of that, there never was a guy. 0.97

01:42:06.760 So it's not like we need a Christian prince. 0.96

01:42:08.280 We've got our finger on the pulse.

01:42:09.940 It's this guy, and we hope he ascends.

01:42:12.360 Since taking office, though, J.D. Vance, and we have some concerns with J.D. Vance.

01:42:16.980 We have big concerns.

01:42:17.760 We don't like this.

01:42:18.340 We don't like that.

01:42:19.520 But what I think he's kind of getting at is that as far as Christianity goes, J.D. Vance has been explicit.

01:42:24.800 America is a Christian nation, and it should remain a Christian nation, which is awesome.

01:42:29.800 So I think he's kind of saying, hey, these guys wanted a Christian prince.

01:42:32.520 I just couldn't tell because I couldn't tell if he was making fun of William Wolfe and was against J.D. Vance or if he was saying this is a good thing, J.D. Vance is a guy.

01:42:39.120 But we didn't hear that type of rhetoric, even anti-white discrimination.

01:42:42.540 J.D. Vance has never, prior to being vice president, even the first six to eight months, he never stuck up for white men.

01:42:49.500 Hey, white men are being discriminated.

01:42:50.920 White Americans are being targeted.

01:42:52.620 Not until AmFest at the TPUSA AmFest.

01:42:55.520 Two months ago.

01:42:56.720 And it was, to be honest, it was still weak, but it was something.

01:43:01.320 and uh and i'm hopeful but uh he said uh and in america you no longer have to apologize for being

01:43:07.720 white anymore yep um and so that that's good and he also shared that article on the discrimination

01:43:13.080 that men have gone through and said the one group that is discriminated in america is white men

01:43:17.420 which is great right and elon musk would be similar he's he's kind of same kind of rhetoric

01:43:21.800 is uh you know in south africa that's where you know musk is from like uh you know there's actually

01:43:26.480 currently on the books and this is true uh there are more laws formal laws on the books against

01:43:32.140 white people in south africa than there were laws against black people during apartheid wow which

01:43:37.380 is that's like my goodness and then you know elon musk of course you know follows it up by saying

01:43:42.980 and i you know i'm against both you know and it just needs to be a fair you know meritocracy all

01:43:47.500 the way around and blah blah blah so um neither one what i'm trying to say is neither vance nor

01:43:52.400 musk you know lots of guys that would fall into this category none of them are necessarily pro

01:43:56.360 white uh but they at least are saying hey um can we just not be anti-white and and i would like to

01:44:03.800 see and it's going to take time like this is something in terms of the the massive on the on

01:44:08.280 the on the big stage of politics you know in the nation as a whole uh we're the overton window has

01:44:13.560 not shifted this far but i eventually would like to see not just uh hey let's stop being anti-white

01:44:19.460 and just fair meritocracy for everybody red and yellow black and white they are precious in the

01:44:24.020 I would like to see a Western country. So I'm not saying the whole world needs to be pro-white

01:44:29.640 because a lot of countries aren't white. They should be whatever their country is pro that. 0.75

01:44:34.820 But I do think that in American context, if our heritage and our history was founded by 0.87

01:44:41.100 white Christian men, and currently even, you know, 250 years later, the majority of our country is

01:44:48.240 still white and religiously christian then i don't think it's just uh let's let's stop telling people

01:44:55.360 uh to uh let's um start telling people to stop punishing white people or being anti-white no i

01:45:02.080 i think you can find ways to uh positively esteem the majority and founding stock descendants of the

01:45:10.480 founding stock of your country and say um this is actually not not only should it not be um despised

01:45:16.640 certainly it shouldn't be despised, but this actually should be esteemed. It actually should

01:45:22.480 be esteemed. Yes, we are a Christian country, first and foremost, religion first. But then

01:45:27.600 after that, we also are predominantly a white country. And we're proud of that. And that's a 0.83

01:45:33.320 good thing. And so I haven't seen, you guys, I'm only mentioning that just to say, I have not,

01:45:38.500 to date, I have not seen any major political figure be pro-white. I have seen some at least

01:45:46.100 start to chastise and i praise god for it the anti-white discrimination what do you guys think

01:45:51.960 uh james fishback's rhetoric is very also pro-white in a good way not hateful or discriminatory

01:45:58.120 it's not like to bring back a drinking fountain separated by race nobody's saying that no um but

01:46:03.200 but positively saying white people are being replaced white people are being discriminated

01:46:07.080 against white people are primarily the victims of assault rape and all these different things when 0.94

01:46:12.560 foreigners are coming in so i think fishback would be one of them you're right and there's

01:46:16.040 others at the lower level and i would even say trump too in his policy as far as nations that

01:46:21.100 they're saying we're not taking immigrants from and ones are taking refugees from that's south

01:46:25.540 africa is one of the few ones we're not taking at least at this point venezuelan refugees or

01:46:29.880 refugees from this war in africa trump's policy not him saying it his policy has been somewhat

01:46:35.380 pro-white pro-european and then saying other third world countries that would not be white

01:46:39.900 we're going to take less immigration less work from them with the exception of just one

01:46:44.160 big continent right there in south asia india which is one of our concerns when it comes to 0.94

01:46:49.080 vance like you know his wife seems like a wonderful woman she really does um but she is indian uh his 0.69

01:46:56.780 natural affections are that are torn there is kind of an inner war there uh he's he would be tempted

01:47:04.560 I would be tempted to if my wife was Indian. So I'm not saying, oh, JD is malicious or sinister.

01:47:10.820 I'm not making any of those claims. I'm just saying that having the most powerful man in the

01:47:15.780 world, if he became president, having a wife from another country does, I think, pose at least the

01:47:23.120 temptation of a conflict of interest. And so I think that you can say that in a respectful way.

01:47:28.980 that's perfectly fair to say uh on the other hand though um we were probably harsher on jd vance

01:47:35.160 a few months ago but uh we want to be up to date and um and he has over the last couple months

01:47:43.860 been encouraging yeah and those are real developments he's never said this before

01:47:47.660 right he never said anything you know against anti-white discrimination and then and then he

01:47:52.700 it and so um people change i've changed i get crap for it all the time they're like well you

01:47:59.280 uh you just started believing this four years ago it's like yeah i i people grow people learn

01:48:06.920 they develop uh one more guy he's not a political guy but i i think it's worth giving throwing him

01:48:11.220 a bone uh matt walsh has been pretty based on on uh being pro-white and um and against all the

01:48:19.320 anti-white discrimination stuff which is encouraging so all right next super chat

01:48:23.960 anybody uh this is the the same guy i don't have to say the name again do i don't say the name

01:48:29.440 again it's enough uh same guy who get sent in the super chat about william wolf and jd vance

01:48:33.420 sent in another super chat very generous very kind and said if someone is getting funding from

01:48:37.840 mark andreason this is his vc firm and then he puts in parentheses new founding with nate fisher

01:48:42.840 claremont alum getting interviews blaze tv guys getting published in american moment which is a

01:48:47.560 claremont publication you are not building a parallel institution what do you think um i

01:48:55.700 understand what those people are saying connecting the dots of different funding and everything like

01:48:59.060 that um i think also at a certain level too you have to wait and see you know people are not as

01:49:04.900 simple as that's what i thought when we read the first one i was like i think he's being negative

01:49:09.480 okay i think he's negative towards william wolf and negative towards jay that's what i expected

01:49:14.740 um yeah i think sometimes you have to give it time love hopes all things at the same time 0.88

01:49:22.940 um as as i've recently said on x don't be retarded right so you can love and hope 0.89

01:49:29.740 but there's a distinction between hope and um and naivety yep yeah you can have a holy suspicion 0.94

01:49:37.780 while hoping go ahead yeah and i think wes was about to say this but people aren't um as simple

01:49:42.240 as i think we can tend to paint them i would also argue that strategies aren't as simple as sort of

01:49:49.000 the purest track um you know you think about credit credentialism and institutions and those

01:49:54.240 sorts of things like uh some people just have a calculus that's just different than one you might

01:49:59.040 choose and and again only time really tells where they land like you can so you could suggest their

01:50:04.020 compromise but they actually end up leveraging the institution or leveraging those credentials

01:50:08.700 for something um that because they're building different things so you're building media yeah

01:50:13.520 your relationships publicly matter you're building uh something like this or something like that

01:50:18.040 that relies on funding from a totally different world that's just a different objective it doesn't

01:50:22.220 justify anything immoral that you're doing but you do have to understand the calculus of a jewel

01:50:25.900 is different from someone else who's building a uh university or something like that yeah right

01:50:30.740 yep yep um some people are just built different you know different um we have a rumble super chat

01:50:37.540 whoa snap rumble hold the phone uh go ahead and read it all right osboss 52 osboss that's a rumble

01:50:45.200 title 10 for the cause of truth new fan awesome thank you thank you that means the world we're

01:50:51.240 glad you're here last super chat this is from uh daniel bartos g5o he gave us a 50 super chat

01:50:59.540 appreciate that thank you daniel uh he said appreciate the courage of you men god bless

01:51:04.800 Four Pillars merchandise coming in 2026?

01:51:08.680 The people have been asking.

01:51:10.920 Here's the deal.

01:51:11.780 The voice of the people, the voice of God.

01:51:13.720 Yeah, I'll tell you why that's wrong. 1.00

01:51:15.300 Because the people are retarded. 1.00

01:51:18.960 Sometimes the people just, I don't care what your voice is. 1.00

01:51:21.000 The people want their merch.

01:51:22.820 But in this case, I think the people are right.

01:51:24.460 Yeah, we've got to give them what they want.

01:51:25.980 Now, I'll be honest.

01:51:27.160 This Four Pillar, I have some ideas for it.

01:51:29.480 Wes, you have a keen eye for design.

01:51:32.540 um but conceptually this shirt cannot be that specific because uh we don't want people getting

01:51:40.700 arrested you know wearing our shirt but i have some race realist on it it's just don't yeah

01:51:45.120 it's not a job interview shirt it's not a date night shirt that is a home gym shirt at best

01:51:51.260 a j a jew pill it's like you wear the shirt to bed and that's it uh no i think we can make

01:51:57.440 something that's like awesome design and you know what the four pillars are and you leave the words

01:52:03.480 off of it uh but yeah i dude i've been thinking about this i'm being completely honest not just

01:52:09.000 saying it because we got this we're doing it we're doing a four pillar shirt this year year 0.81

01:52:13.420 of our lord 2026 the people want it and in this case the people are not retarded and we're going 0.86

01:52:17.720 to give it to them yep uh any more i think that's it right we got two more uh all right 0.84

01:52:21.700 parabolize 94 said they released the body cam footage this is in reference to the shooting

01:52:25.960 of renee what do you think that's what it looked like i watched it on the side here while we were

01:52:30.280 doing it just about today and uh she tried to run him over with her car of course like at the end

01:52:33.960 of the day she pushed the gas someone was in front of it oh i didn't know this would happen

01:52:37.300 well that's how physics work and so i don't think the body cam it most certainly doesn't make it

01:52:41.400 look like the officer acted imprudently good it's literally going to come down to will the federal

01:52:45.780 side of things step in and protect the officer which at this point it looks like they're doing

01:52:51.620 so praise god okay uh and then we've got uh parabolize 94 that's the one i just read it oh

01:52:59.340 we just okay my bad last one is all right it's from the name that we already read i'll all right

01:53:03.500 let's say it one more time you say it this time oh i have to yes i already did it poop smith one

01:53:09.300 two three but you're not getting it read on air again here's the deal you come back you comment

01:53:12.960 again we're giving you a new name seriously yeah you have a weekend you have a weekend to change

01:53:17.540 your handle all right um he said uh new founding is uh pushing techno ai optimism uh that's that's

01:53:26.040 true uh wolf and this is not steven he'll be talking about uh william wolf goes to nat con

01:53:32.260 and does uh bible commentary with josh hammer we don't like josh hammer uh i'm not pro vance

01:53:40.000 obviously yeah okay yep and to be fair neither are we we're not uh we have done episodes about

01:53:47.420 Vance. And we have a whole episode coming out on JD Vance and Peter Thiel and Palantir with myself

01:53:54.700 and Nick Frontos. And you will see that episode shortly. What we're saying, the only caveat that

01:54:00.840 we're providing here is that this is a conversation in real time. And so there is a maturity and not

01:54:10.480 being naive and being able to see some of the things that you're picking up on. We don't think

01:54:14.980 you're crazy but there's also a maturity and uh and watching the situation develop on the ground

01:54:20.760 and and to to just harden yourself in your position to say okay so jd vance all of a sudden 0.94

01:54:29.500 is is actually using some really positive rhetoric that he never used before so i was right to be more

01:54:35.340 critical previously because these were things you weren't saying right but there's a real development

01:54:39.420 and even though there's a real development now i'm not even going to consider i'm not even going to

01:54:44.960 to bake that into the pie uh i think that's um i think that's foolish and unfair all right we've

01:54:51.420 got another super chat we got to drive it home this is from raynard raynard he gave us a 20

01:54:56.380 super chat appreciate it hi from brush prairie washington love the new channel my wife and i

01:55:02.240 just welcomed our first child let's go uh ellen grace schneider today today wow wow and he still

01:55:10.220 And he still caught the show

01:55:11.740 What's your excuse

01:55:12.780 He's literally holding

01:55:14.120 Catching the baby 0.78

01:55:15.300 Babe turn it up 0.99

01:55:16.840 Babe wake up

01:55:18.700 NXR just dropped 0.94

01:55:19.560 Your wife is in labor

01:55:20.900 It's like

01:55:21.280 Hey you're a little loud sweetheart

01:55:22.640 I can't hear Joel

01:55:23.660 God bless you

01:55:26.060 You're a patriot

01:55:26.880 Praise be to God

01:55:29.480 He goes on

01:55:29.980 Very blessed

01:55:30.580 Yes you are

01:55:31.220 Here to support

01:55:33.020 Take care gentlemen

01:55:33.920 And just for the record

01:55:34.580 When I said yes you are

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The NXR Podcast - January 09, 2026

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