The NXR Podcast - NXR Livestream - Jewish Supremacy & The Goyim with Dr. Kevin MacDonald

00:00:00.000 All right, in today's episode we have a fascinating interview with Dr. Kevin McDonald and everybody

00:00:06.300 has probably seen the latest revelations of the Epstein files. I think that this is probably at

00:00:12.640 this point, I don't know, phase three, phase four, phase five, and I think we have some more phases

00:00:17.440 to go. There are still plenty of things that are redacted that people are going to want to see

00:00:22.660 more things. Like who is this mystery guy whose name is blotted out that Jeffrey Epstein was

00:00:29.080 supposed to kill. These kinds of things the public deserves to know, and so I think we'll have

00:00:34.260 another phase and another phase, but this latest revelation was really, in many ways, a bombshell.

00:00:40.500 It showed, if nothing else, it showed the blatant disdain and hatred of Epstein. You can do a quick

00:00:48.820 early life check on Epstein. The name, it's pretty obvious, but he had a blatant disdain and hatred

00:00:56.100 towards white people. He viewed non-Jewish people as less than. People right now are always talking 0.97

00:01:02.840 about the dangers of white supremacy, the dangers of neo-Nazism. Well, I'll go on record and say

00:01:09.780 this. As far as anyone can find, and even scrubbing and using certain AI tools to disseminate all the

00:01:17.300 information, there was not one anti-Semite that was exposed as being a monster in the Epstein

00:01:25.620 files. Many neocons, many liberals, many Democrats, many Republicans, not one anti-Semite, right? You

00:01:34.300 can just mark that off the list. Neo-Nazis, as far as we know, not one of them is committing

00:01:41.260 crimes trafficking underage girls uh participating in satanic rituals uh that's that's not on the

00:01:50.200 list so we can talk about the neo-nazis we can talk about playing footsies with the people on

00:01:55.280 the far right we can talk about the dangers of white supremacy but i'll i'll go on record and say 0.86

00:02:00.640 being frank i'm concerned about jewish supremacy because the epstein files reek of that white

00:02:09.340 supremacy? Nowhere to be found. Jewish supremacy, that non-Jewish whites are cattle? The goyim,

00:02:18.580 right? Imagine right now your 77-year-old Zionist evangelical grandma, and she's on Google, 0.95

00:02:26.080 you know, like, what is the goyim? What is goyim? A lot of people really are waking up and seeing, 0.97

00:02:33.480 wait, you're saying that these groups of individuals are controlling markets and would 0.96

00:02:38.980 even artificially manipulate a market crash that affects the goyim non-Jewish whites with their 0.85

00:02:45.980 slave wage jobs nine to five while a few elite individuals get rich. And again, just to make it 0.96

00:02:54.500 clear, we're not saying every Jew is involved in this. We're not saying that in the same way that

00:03:00.400 not every white person is a raging liberal and not every white person is, you know, far, far,

00:03:07.400 far right, but what we are saying is that disproportionately, according to these files,

00:03:13.720 it seems as though Epstein and other elite Jewish billionaires, not just in Israel, it's not just

00:03:20.300 Netanyahu, it's not just the Israeli government, but Jews here in America and around the world,

00:03:26.700 not all of them, but elite billionaires, rich Jewish people, had this sentiment of, 0.87

00:03:34.380 the non-Jewish whites exist for us. And it's okay to artificially manipulate markets and 0.99

00:03:44.220 interest and these kinds of things that affect them in negative ways, but makes us rich. That

00:03:50.520 was clear. And so what I want to do in this interview with Dr. Kevin MacDonald is get down

00:03:56.920 to the bottom of it, not just the latest revelations of the Epstein files, but getting to

00:04:01.700 the underpinnings. What is Jewish supremacy? What is this idea of an elite few that have a high 0.63

00:04:13.920 in-group preference that would manipulate things in such a way that it affects negatively other

00:04:21.820 nations, other peoples? What's going on here? What is Jewish supremacy? What is world Jewry?

00:04:31.700 Is there any merit to these terms? 0.91

00:04:34.100 And I think in light of the latest revelations over the weekend with the Epstein Files,

00:04:38.240 there are more people right now who are willing to ask these questions likely than ever before. 0.62

00:04:44.860 And so if you're wanting to understand these things, Jewish supremacy, right, world Jewry,

00:04:50.500 what's going on? How does it affect me? What should I do in light of it?

00:04:55.480 How can I understand these concepts historically and see the patterns underneath?

00:05:01.700 then this is a fascinating interview that will help you tremendously so stay tuned and we'll get

00:05:09.080 right into it at the foot of mount sinai a nation met its god in thunder and fire

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00:06:18.600 So I'm joined today by Dr. Kevin MacDonald.

00:06:42.780 He's written The Culture of Critique, which is a massive book that outlines a lot of Jewish influence throughout history and the way that it has affected society.

00:06:53.920 And today we wanted to focus our attention predominantly as it pertains to Jewish influence over the years, especially here in the United States, but even historically in other countries as it pertains to immigration.

00:07:05.420 This is certainly a relevant topic, and what we're seeing going on in Minnesota with ICE

00:07:11.080 on the ground and the massive protests against ICE, we know that the left very much wants

00:07:17.700 immigration to continue.

00:07:19.800 They want it to continue in mass, and there's a number of reasons for that incentive.

00:07:25.720 But behind this, or at least historically, what got us to this point, not entirely, but 0.90

00:07:32.800 in many ways has been Jewish influence. So Dr. Kevin MacDonald, welcome to the show. 0.85

00:07:39.220 Let's begin. Can you explain to the listeners from your book, from your thoughts and your

00:07:44.300 extensive research, why is it historically, maybe outlining, but then also giving some

00:07:50.500 of the incentives, the motive, why is it that Jews have historically pushed so hard to be

00:07:56.660 pro-immigration. Yeah, it's certainly true. And, you know, as I was reading Jewish history and 1.00

00:08:04.780 everything, I, in a way, I really, it really opened my eyes to see what Jews had done on

00:08:14.020 immigration. I'm an evolutionary biologist. And to me, the demographic constitution of the country 0.98

00:08:21.780 is extremely important, and so the reality is that Jews have always, going back to the early

00:08:30.500 20th century, have championed open immigration. In fact, the American public opinion was against

00:08:41.660 immigration from about 1905.

00:08:44.340 But Jews very actively fought the literacy test and so on.

00:08:52.820 And they finally passed the literacy test, but it was ineffective.

00:08:56.920 So finally, the forces of restriction simply said, we're going to cut the numbers way down.

00:09:04.040 And we're going to bias it towards Northwest Europe.

00:09:07.280 Well, that was horrifying to Jewish activists.

00:09:11.660 But in 1924, you know, they passed the 1924 immigration law, and that biased immigration had lowered the numbers dramatically, and it biased immigration towards Northwest Europe.

00:09:25.780 Well, most Jews were from Eastern Europe, and so they did not fall into that category, and they took it personally.

00:09:33.800 So there's a huge chip on their shoulder, you know, ever since.

00:09:37.860 And any Jewish person who's educated would be aware of this, that the 1924 immigration law was directed against them.

00:09:47.040 And to a certain extent, it was.

00:09:49.640 I mean, there were also other immigrants, Italians and Poles and so on.

00:09:53.600 But I think that what really got the public going with Jewish immigrants, because at that time, they were very different. 0.76

00:10:00.200 I mean, these were Orthodox Jews. 1.00

00:10:02.340 They looked different. 1.00

00:10:03.140 They, you know, they were very insular.

00:10:08.080 They walled themselves off from everyone else.

00:10:11.160 And they tend to be radical, you know, political radicals.

00:10:15.580 And this was around the time of the Bosford Revolution.

00:10:20.120 And people were hearing stories about how violent that was and how Jews were very much involved in the Bosford Revolution and the aftermath of the revolution.

00:10:31.140 revolution and um you know they they finally said no and so 1924 they enacted the law

00:10:38.820 and uh this was a watershed event in american history it really slowed immigration way down

00:10:45.540 and of course then you had the great depression and that would have slowed it down anyway

00:10:49.220 but um jews essentially were cut out of the political process involved in immigration

00:10:57.860 And in 1952, that act, the 1924 Immigration Act, was essentially reinstated.

00:11:07.320 It was updated, and it didn't really change the substance of it.

00:11:12.560 And it passed over Harry Truman's veto in 1952.

00:11:17.420 So Jewish activists were always involved on this.

00:11:23.860 They were the ones that were funding the committees. They were funding the lobbyists. They were writing the op-eds. And so the entire point was to open the gates. And they finally did it in 1965. 0.86

00:11:44.400 So it was a long time coming, but they were by far, really, you can't point to any other group that was really important.

00:11:54.180 It wasn't like capitalists were, you know, clamoring for more immigration.

00:12:00.780 Certainly labor unions didn't want it.

00:12:03.760 And so when you look at who was active and how and why, it was Jewish activism.

00:12:14.060 And as far as why, Jews, you know, as I say, had a huge ship on their shoulder for the 1924 immigration law.

00:12:23.720 But they also had a general animosity, especially after World War II, because you had the rise of National Socialism in Germany.

00:12:33.520 And what happened there, of course, was they were very focused on Jews.

00:12:38.940 And as a result, Jews had the view that it was dangerous for Jews to be a minority in a homogeneously white Christian country. 0.50

00:12:55.900 And, you know, they have a long memory.

00:12:59.360 You know, when they think about the history of Jews in the West, they start out with the Roman Empire.

00:13:05.900 and the destruction of the Second Temple. 0.62

00:13:11.260 And then they go to persecutions in the late Roman Empire.

00:13:15.540 And then they go to the Middle Ages,

00:13:17.460 where they were expelled from so many countries

00:13:19.580 and kingdoms in Western Europe.

00:13:23.420 And then they go to the modern era,

00:13:25.360 where in Russia there were pogroms in the 19th century.

00:13:29.900 And then you had the rise of national socialism in Germany.

00:13:34.240 And so there you are.

00:13:35.500 You know, I mean, they they had the idea that European civilization will sooner or later rise up against it.

00:13:44.020 And so the solution that they came up with was immigration of all these other groups. 0.85

00:13:49.180 If Jews were just one of many groups, they would not be they would not stand out as much. 0.58

00:13:56.540 And they again, they had this hatred towards the white majority.

00:14:00.520 When they see a white majority, even though, you know, America fought against Germany in World War II, they think of white people as potential Nazis and that they will sooner or later rise up against them.

00:14:19.020 So I got a lot of quotes to that effect, that they don't feel safe in a homogeneous white country, a Christian country.

00:14:29.340 Again, Christian religion started out as a very anti-Jewish ideology, really.

00:14:38.960 I mean, Jews killed Christ, for example, and you had Jews in the late Roman Empire who owned Christian slaves, and this really angered non-Jews and, you know, Constantine with the church.

00:14:58.580 I have a chapter on that and my second book on Jews, The Separation of Discontents, on anti-Semitism, huge anti-Semitism in the late Roman Empire. 0.57

00:15:07.760 It revolved around Jews enslaving non-Jews. 0.64

00:15:11.820 And again, you know, Jews act as if they, you know, would never be involved in slavery. 0.85

00:15:21.220 But the fact is they have been deeply involved in slavery from, you know, in biblical times you see slavery and Jews were involved in slave trading and so on. 0.52

00:15:35.100 Real quick, Dr. McDonald, could you take just a moment, you said, you know, in some of these European countries, you were explaining, you know, Jews and their involvement in slavery, you know, and even possessing, you know, Christians as slaves and this angering, you know, whether it be Constantine or some of these, you know, I think of the Catholic monarchs, you know, in European countries that developed, and you used the word, developed, you know, anti-Semitism, an anti-Semitic sentiment.

00:16:03.160 just for the listener and for myself. I'm curious because a lot of people, if we ask the ADL,

00:16:09.200 what is anti-Semitism? They would say the slightest critique against Benjamin Netanyahu.

00:16:14.240 You know, so if you could define your terms, how would you define, historically speaking,

00:16:20.300 anti-Semitism? And then a further follow-up question, after defining anti-Semitism,

00:16:26.300 the historic anti-Semitism of these Western Christian European countries in their disposition

00:16:32.020 towards the jews would you say that that anti-semitism that they modeled the christian

00:16:37.540 european white countries modeled would you say that it's that anti-semitism is inherently immoral 0.60

00:16:43.360 or would you say that some of them did bad things with the anti-semitism and some of them did

00:16:49.700 just things justifiable things but that it's not inherently immoral i'm just curious your point

00:16:56.360 of view yeah well anti-semitism is uh dislike hatred towards jews because of they are jewish

00:17:05.380 um and i have to you know really refine that because you don't want to say you know when

00:17:14.080 you talk about jews i mean say you choose as radicals very common you know early in the 20th

00:17:20.900 century, really going up, and Jews are still on the left in America, but you can't ever say that

00:17:26.440 all Jews, you know, so you have to talk about particular Jews, particular Jewish organizations,

00:17:32.520 you have to look where the power of the Jewish community is at any particular time, 0.91

00:17:37.740 and, you know, in my case, I see Jewish power as directed against my interests as an America, 0.89

00:17:46.600 as a white American, but I have to qualify that. 0.74

00:17:52.080 I have to talk about which aspects of the Jewish community, you know,

00:17:56.600 the ADL, for example, is totally on board with all the Jewish programs,

00:18:03.260 but not all Jews are sympathetic to the ADL. 0.66

00:18:06.560 You talk about the Israel lobby, and certainly I resent the fact

00:18:12.040 that we've fought these several wars for Israel in the Middle East,

00:18:16.600 You know, lost a lot of lives, cost a lot of money, horribly wounded servicemen coming back.

00:18:24.940 And the Israel lobby has promoted these wars. 0.55

00:18:29.540 And so Israel lobby is very powerful in Washington, D.C.

00:18:34.060 And so you see I have a chapter on the neoconservatives as championing these wars.

00:18:42.360 So I'm against that.

00:18:44.800 So you want to call me an anti-Semite?

00:18:46.600 fine, but be very clear what I am saying. I'm saying that I oppose certain things that the 0.98

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00:22:06.760 I mean, there are Jews who are opposed to what Israel is doing.

00:22:11.180 You know, there's Jewish Voice for Peace.

00:22:14.060 There's Mondeweiss.

00:22:15.160 I mean, these people are very Jewish. 0.83

00:22:18.100 At the same time, they do not like what Israel has done over there.

00:22:22.360 And they are very, extremely critical of Israel.

00:22:26.940 But, you know, so they don't have the power. 0.69

00:22:30.720 Obviously, the power is with the Israel lobby and the funding of politicians in America, the propaganda, the media power, all comes from the mainstream Jewish community. 0.83

00:22:46.740 Another question that I had, so that makes a lot of sense and it's helpful.

00:22:50.260 uh but you you know you've uh a few times now you know predominantly described jews in america as

00:22:57.880 being politically on the left and from you know some of my study i think that's undeniable i you

00:23:04.220 know that doesn't mean every jew is on the left but in terms of the influence the mainstream the

00:23:08.880 consensus the power that's what we're describing and you're right however i i wanted to to get your

00:23:16.300 thoughts on i think that that's historically true for america and jewish influence in america it's

00:23:21.140 been left dominant but it seems as though recently like through the rise of you know the move away

00:23:27.220 from your paleo conservatives of old your pat buchanan's and kind of the rise of you know

00:23:32.980 william f buckley and national review and the neo conservatives and that over the last

00:23:39.440 30 maybe 30 40 years or so at least the last 20 30 years that now it feels as though there's kind

00:23:46.560 of a split and not just like some dissenting jews on the right but just individuals and not a

00:23:52.880 collective and not really having much influence uh where all the power is still on the left now

00:23:57.160 it feels like it's almost like a 50 50 split that there's real you know ngos real lobbyists real

00:24:03.080 groups, organizations on the left that are pro-LGBT, pro-pornography, pro-immigration,

00:24:10.600 pro-abortion, but there's almost, it seems, as much influence, Jewish influence on the

00:24:16.320 right that would side with someone like myself on some of the cultural, moral issues like

00:24:23.240 abortion, like gay marriage, those kinds of things, but in terms of geopolitics are pushing

00:24:31.600 for war, you know, and sending America to war.

00:24:34.660 And so now it feels as though now you actually have two, not just fractured, but two very

00:24:41.780 organized groups of Jewish influence, both on the left and on the right, that almost

00:24:47.240 work in tandem with one another. 0.53

00:24:48.680 The right wages war, displaces people, pushes for regime change, these kinds of things. 0.86

00:24:55.280 And then the left, Jews on the left, then open the doors, the doors of Toledo, the doors 0.55

00:25:00.480 of america and and welcome all the refugees here and it's kind of this this one two you know left

00:25:06.680 right punch what do you think about that yeah i do think that there's an element of truth in that

00:25:14.260 great element of truth in that i um historically well if you look at voting patterns i mean jews

00:25:21.400 still voted 70 democrat in the last election presidential election that's important um and so

00:25:28.520 So in general, the mainstream Jewish community is still on the left, but there's a lot of anti-Semitism on the left now because of Israel.

00:25:36.520 And I do think that a lot of Jews are bailing out.

00:25:40.820 And you have people like Stephen Miller in the Trump administration, who's a real conservative, I think.

00:25:45.900 These neo-conservatives, which is a very important Jewish movement, they have historically been very much in favor of immigration.

00:25:56.100 You know, and so they opposed the paleo-conservatives, the Pat Buchanans.

00:26:02.900 They regarded Pat Buchanan as a horrible anti-Semite because he was questioning some of the World War II, you know, Holocaust-related stuff.

00:26:13.840 And he was very much, you know, an American nationalist.

00:26:19.000 and he would oppose immigration of all these different groups.

00:26:27.880 So that's the history of it. 0.54

00:26:30.580 Right now, I do think that Jews are sort of rethinking immigration from Muslim countries.

00:26:39.080 They realize they brought in a lot of people that hate them for what they've done in Israel.

00:26:45.580 I just read

00:26:48.040 Debra Lipstadt

00:26:50.060 said that anti-Semitism has changed

00:26:51.960 it's all Israel related now

00:26:54.160 they have lost young people

00:26:56.520 that 0.65

00:26:58.400 Israel's

00:26:59.640 actions in Gaza are just

00:27:02.060 horrifying to people

00:27:03.360 I just posted a video from Al Jazeera

00:27:06.120 and it's unbelievable what they have done

00:27:08.340 you know

00:27:09.740 just 0.82

00:27:10.060 war crimes 0.87

00:27:12.780 you can't even imagine it

00:27:15.420 So it's something that I think has really changed public perception of Jews.

00:27:22.080 Jews have always tried to present this image of we're the victims.

00:27:26.120 The Holocaust is the prime one, but it goes back in history.

00:27:31.140 We are the victims.

00:27:32.040 We never do anything bad.

00:27:33.960 We're the victims of irrational hatred throughout history, and that's the whole story.

00:27:40.100 But how do you see Jews as victims when you see what happened in Gaza?

00:27:46.240 You know, they have a long way to go to repair that.

00:27:50.640 And, you know, the activist Jewish community acts as if nothing happened.

00:27:56.760 But they know something's happened.

00:27:58.680 And they are, you know, furiously trying to correct that.

00:28:05.520 I understand they have

00:28:08.200 public

00:28:09.120 ads on TV

00:28:12.600 now 0.97

00:28:14.080 promoting Israel 0.72

00:28:17.380 and their opposition

00:28:20.700 to anti-Semitism and so on

00:28:21.980 but you know

00:28:22.740 the whole anti-Semitism

00:28:24.940 has been expanded

00:28:27.120 it used to be that you could critique Israel

00:28:29.420 and you wouldn't be called an anti-Semite

00:28:31.600 but now it's pretty much been

00:28:33.320 completely conflated

00:28:34.760 If you criticize Israel, you are going to be accused of being an anti-Semite.

00:28:40.720 And that has lost its sting to a great extent.

00:28:45.120 I don't think people are concerned about it as much as they used to be.

00:28:49.940 People like Elon Musk have gotten in trouble by condemning the ADL, saying the ADL is an anti-white organization and that sort of thing.

00:29:00.440 And it's something that doesn't go away.

00:29:05.780 I mean, he went to Auschwitz.

00:29:07.060 He went to Israel, supposedly apologizing and sort of.

00:29:11.840 But, you know, these things stay.

00:29:15.280 And it's hard to believe that these young people who are not listening to the New York Times,

00:29:22.420 they're not reading the New York Times, okay?

00:29:24.240 They're listening to podcasts.

00:29:26.020 They're listening to, you know, maybe Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens.

00:29:30.440 who are now seen as, you know, the worst anti-Semites in America.

00:29:36.340 I think Tucker Carlson got anti-Semite of the year this year. 1.00

00:29:41.680 And Candace Owens, you know, she's very down on Israel.

00:29:48.440 And very much, she's doubted the Holocaust, all kinds of things,

00:29:56.120 and talked about the USS Liberty,

00:29:58.700 the disaster when Israel killed over like 134 American sailors,

00:30:03.860 obviously intentionally.

00:30:07.140 This is back in 1967.

00:30:09.340 She brings that up.

00:30:10.760 Tucker Carlson has brought it up.

00:30:13.800 You know, the history is so obfuscated, so covered up,

00:30:20.860 that it's hard to get down to the truth.

00:30:22.960 But, you know, people like Tucker Carlson are really doing it.

00:30:25.840 Yeah.

00:30:25.900 I mean, Tucker Carlson talked about the riots in Minneapolis, and he said the whole point of the leftist resistance here is the great replacement.

00:30:35.120 They want to replace the white population.

00:30:37.460 And so they have to resist any attempt to deport people, to prevent immigration, to check voter rolls.

00:30:45.820 He says 14 states don't have voter ID laws. 0.51

00:30:49.260 Well, that's open invitation for illegals to vote.

00:30:52.920 And he's really, he interviewed Daryl Cooper on World War II, saying things that Jewish activists hate to be said.

00:31:06.640 Winston Churchill was not a hero.

00:31:09.180 Winston Churchill was this profligate person who's indebted to the Jews all the way and did basically what they wanted him to do.

00:31:18.900 and so yeah what do you think real quick about winston churchill do you uh you know because

00:31:24.600 there's a moment where it seems as though he was going to just ride off into the sunset but but in

00:31:29.420 utter disgrace you know that he was virtually bankrupt and had left the political scene and

00:31:34.700 then all of a sudden is you know welcome back in and and quite powerful and there's you know 0.85

00:31:40.300 suspicions and you know people saying that he was funded by jews uh to lead this zionist project is

00:31:47.280 there you've done the research is there truth in that claim yes and and he actually would have lost

00:31:54.400 his estate he was sold bankrupt i mean he was totally profligate with money in debt all the

00:32:01.160 time uh and yet you know living a very high life you know with uh alcohol cigars and all this stuff 0.63

00:32:11.300 Anyway, yeah, he was bailed out by a Jewish guy named Straykosh, I believe, a wealthy Jew. 0.55

00:32:22.900 And this happens over and over again. 0.90

00:32:24.240 Jewish influence, you know, if you want to take it to the absolute bare bones, comes down to money. 0.81

00:32:30.880 Whether it's the Israel lobby, buying off politicians, funding the opponents of politicians they don't like. 0.76

00:32:38.960 If it's Winston Churchill getting bailed out by Jewish millionaires, looking at all these NGOs that fund immigration, that, you know, reward people who are on their side in terms of immigration, multiculturalism, and all that. 0.73

00:32:57.800 So, you know, speaking about my chapter in the 1950s, Jews would establish these committees and they would be made up mainly of non-Jews who were sympathetic. 0.75

00:33:08.520 And they wanted to have prominent non-Jews, people who would have a reputation that other non-Jews would listen to. 0.50

00:33:15.780 And so they had JFK, future president, to put his name on a book called, anyways, a pro-immigration book, which was actually written by the ADL, the ADL-paid ghostwriter. 0.56

00:33:35.280 They paid a name Feldman, and then they paid a historian, and they got JFK to put his name on this book, and Hubert Humphrey, same way.

00:33:49.180 These are very prominent politicians.

00:33:51.460 People listen to them.

00:33:53.460 By 1965, when they passed that horrible law that basically transformed the country to beyond, can't even recognize it anymore.

00:34:02.440 by the time that happened it was like a political consensus it was a done deal and there was no way

00:34:12.020 to oppose it at that point and johnson was in office uh you know hold the whole great society

00:34:20.060 program uh you know liberalism uh and um civil rights all those things were coming in

00:34:27.380 and jewish activists were all deeply involved in the civil rights movement and

00:34:33.020 very much in favor of those laws and but what we're mainly concerned about is immigration

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00:35:56.500 possible you know skipping forward to today ice minnesota the things that are going on there

00:36:02.740 um what what what is the jewish influence that you see today that's causing these things 0.87

00:36:11.080 Well, I think now Jews, to some extent, it's not autopilot. 0.99

00:36:16.100 You still have, you know, these NGOs, people like George Soros paradigmatically funding. 0.71

00:36:25.060 And a lot of these protests that you see on the left are funded.

00:36:30.540 And they are very organized and all of that.

00:36:35.200 But, you know, the Jewish, you know, you've got, you know, 60,000 or something like that Somalis in Minneapolis.

00:36:44.160 They're going to be in favor of immigration.

00:36:46.500 The people they brought in, by and large, for the left. 0.63

00:36:50.460 Right.

00:36:50.960 And so that, in a sense, it's on autopilot, and they are sort of in the background a little bit.

00:36:58.340 I mean, Jacob Pryor, the mayor of Minneapolis, is Jewish, and he's very strongly Jewish.

00:37:02.900 We had an article on that.

00:37:05.200 an Occidental Observer.

00:37:07.900 And so, yeah, they're still involved,

00:37:11.240 and they're still very much in favor of all those things.

00:37:14.860 The ADL still, you know, pushing it. 0.71

00:37:18.520 The NGOs that are funded typically by Jews 0.73

00:37:23.420 are very much involved in it.

00:37:26.920 But, you know, you bring in 40 million people,

00:37:31.220 a lot of them Latinos and so on,

00:37:33.100 And they're going to basically go for, you know, the pro-immigration kind of line.

00:37:42.140 Not always, but, you know, and I think Trump did some inroads in that.

00:37:47.720 But essentially, the plan has been, again, Jews after World War II especially,

00:37:57.340 were very afraid of a homogeneous white society, which it was at that time. 0.69

00:38:03.100 Even though you had 10% blacks or something, they had no political power. 0.83

00:38:08.700 It was a white country, completely. 0.94

00:38:12.340 And this was not something that they wanted. 0.89

00:38:17.900 And so they pushed it and pushed it.

00:38:20.120 And, of course, you have all these high ideals that were all the same,

00:38:26.800 that people from Africa will be just great citizens and all that.

00:38:34.740 And, of course, what we have is a competing maelstrom

00:38:41.320 of competing ethnic groups now. 0.92

00:38:44.840 And so multiculturalism really has not worked anywhere.

00:38:50.800 It produces conflicts between the different groups.

00:38:58.720 And, you know, I'm saying good things about Tucker Carlson, but Tucker Carlson is opposed to any kind of white identity. 0.90

00:39:06.020 Correct. 0.67

00:39:06.080 And the reality is we have to have a white identity because we are competing in a multicultural, multi-ethnic environment where whites are going to be a minority within our lifetimes, perhaps. 0.72

00:39:25.300 Maybe yours is not mine. 0.67

00:39:27.920 But anyway, you know, the reality is that whites have to organize. 0.84

00:39:36.140 They have to organize as whites and try to advance their interests. 0.95

00:39:40.460 This, of course, is what Jews have done forever. 1.00

00:39:43.440 And it's sort of pie in the sky to think that these different ethnic groups 1.00

00:39:47.960 are going to suddenly forget about their ethnicity. 0.98

00:39:50.880 They're going to all become Christians and not care about any of that stuff. 0.98

00:39:55.920 It's just not true. 0.99

00:39:57.760 And it's sort of pathetic to see a major voice like that talking those terms. 0.92

00:40:05.100 What do you think it is about those of European descent, white Christians, especially here in America, but also in Europe? 0.95

00:40:15.220 It seems to be the same sentiment.

00:40:16.660 What do you think it is about white people that has made us so particularly susceptible? 0.52

00:40:21.980 Because at some point, you know, like there is a moral culpability of one degree for the one who deceives.

00:40:29.240 And although the degree is lesser, there's still some degree of moral culpability for the one who is deceived.

00:40:37.180 Like you can't.

00:40:37.800 That's right. 0.81

00:40:38.380 And so what is it about white people that makes us so gullible? 0.83

00:40:43.660 Well, that's my other book.

00:40:45.160 we would orchestrate our own demise i wrote a book called individualism in the western liberal

00:40:51.300 tradition 2019 it's on amazon and um it's the essential idea is that western europeans

00:41:01.380 have a deep evolutionary history uh of individualism we we have not had this sort

00:41:09.420 of kinship-based societies that are truer than the rest of the world.

00:41:14.100 And I'm not the only person believing that.

00:41:17.800 I mean, Joseph Henrich, a Harvard evolutionary psychologist,

00:41:22.760 has a book out called The Weirdest People in the World.

00:41:29.480 Weirdest is an acronym for Western, industrialized, rich, educated, and so on.

00:41:37.720 And the idea is that we are unique in all the cultures of the world intending towards individuals.

00:41:46.000 And that means we don't coalesce into groups very easily.

00:41:49.960 We can, and that certainly happened in Germany in the 1930s. 0.99

00:41:55.200 But in general, we tend not to, you know, we see a Jewish pornographer or a Jewish sex molester or rapist or something. 0.99

00:42:05.180 We don't generalize that to all Jews. We don't think in group terms very easily. And so we're more about individual self-development. And individual has been very good for the West. This is what made the West dominant throughout the world. 0.99

00:42:29.040 It produced the Industrial Revolution, all the science and technology.

00:42:35.360 You can't have science from a group standpoint. 1.00

00:42:40.600 And that's what Jews have always done. 1.00

00:42:41.960 That's the whole point of my book, The Cultural Critique, 1.00

00:42:44.160 that these Jewish movements regard as science as part of their group strategy, 0.95

00:42:49.100 their group interests.

00:42:51.240 That Franz Boas, say, saw the question of race in terms of,

00:42:58.100 Is it good for the Jews?

00:43:00.140 And you can't see science that way. 0.98

00:43:03.380 But science has always been individualistic.

00:43:05.720 That means you can defect from any scientific movement that you think is wrong.

00:43:11.360 You know, show me the evidence.

00:43:13.280 And so that's been the case throughout history.

00:43:15.800 But, you know, more and more as the left, multicultural left gets power, they see science as something that should be in the interest of particular groups. 0.96

00:43:28.100 And so, you know, any kind of race science is off the table now, because blacks, you know, you don't like the idea that blacks have a lower IQ, that they're prone to criminality, and that they're just not succeeding in Western societies. 0.88

00:43:44.380 And same in Europe. 0.92

00:43:48.500 So I trace the history of individualism and how it played out.

00:43:54.020 and essentially there's a sort of gradual what I call climb

00:44:00.760 between the southern Europeans and the northwest Europeans

00:44:04.600 where southeastern Europeans are much more collectivist.

00:44:10.000 You know, you have brothers living together with their families

00:44:14.180 and, you know, whereas in the northwest Europe, it's all individual

00:44:19.460 and you had to be economically viable in order to get married.

00:44:24.020 And you had these nuclear families going way back. 0.68

00:44:27.260 They can't even trace where the origins are.

00:44:29.660 But in the Middle East and Eastern Europe, those families don't exist.

00:44:35.340 They're not the norm historically.

00:44:39.180 Even in southern France, you see that.

00:44:41.700 So the point is that when you get up towards Scandinavia, you have total individualism.

00:44:49.540 Family ties are weak.

00:44:51.920 And kinship is weak.

00:44:54.740 And these people are the most liberal people in the world.

00:45:00.600 From some of what I've recently read and discovered,

00:45:05.060 it seems as though Minnesota was originally,

00:45:07.980 or at least at some point in its history,

00:45:10.640 heavily populated and settled by Scandinavians.

00:45:15.300 That's right.

00:45:15.840 Which might be part of what has made all of the West,

00:45:19.880 and America in particular, 1.00

00:45:20.820 has been you know specifically you know susceptible to um to jewish influence and and exploiting the 0.69

00:45:29.140 individualistic mindset of westerners to be accommodating to anyone and everyone but minnesota

00:45:35.460 especially even the you know the the coined phrase that we use to describe minnesotans you know

00:45:40.180 minnesota nice right they're just they're really really nice and i think for too nice that's

00:45:48.180 absolutely right and so but for us to recognize that okay you know where did this come from you

00:45:54.160 know well it came from a particular people the scandinavians who were as you're describing

00:46:01.080 uniquely individualistic in their mindset and for us to draw that correlation and recognize

00:46:07.760 there's something there yeah absolutely they are very much prone to individualism and

00:46:15.720 now they're beset. They've

00:46:18.820 admitted all these Middle Eastern peoples 0.99

00:46:20.940 and all of a sudden, oh, there's

00:46:22.920 these gangs, you know,

00:46:24.760 these ethnically based gangs in

00:46:27.000 Sweden. And they're blowing up

00:46:29.060 things, they're running drugs, they're doing all

00:46:31.100 these terrible things. 1.00

00:46:33.480 And the Swedes are 0.98

00:46:34.880 sort of powerless 0.99

00:46:36.420 against it because they just

00:46:39.040 you know, they

00:46:40.600 tend not to see

00:46:42.720 this

00:46:43.720 It's very hard to get them on page with a mass movement of, you know, the anti-immigration, the re-migration and all that.

00:46:56.420 You can get a few Swedes on board, but they tend to be very much in favor of immigration and everything.

00:47:07.320 And, you know, the thing about about Western societies that is really telling is, you know, when you don't have kinship to bind the community together, if you go to the Middle Eastern societies, kinship is the name of the game.

00:47:23.100 And that includes Jewish societies traditionally, very much based on kinship. 0.69

00:47:29.280 And you look at these Orthodox Jewish groups and it's still that way.

00:47:31.820 um but the in the middle east that was the norm and and where you were in the kinship was what

00:47:42.460 mattered well in western europe that was not the case individualism uh you know every person had

00:47:48.120 his own farm you had communities sort of living together uh with neighbors and friends not kin

00:47:54.240 And so kin was de-emphasized throughout European history.

00:47:59.780 But kinship is a powerful force for cohesion in a community.

00:48:05.000 So without that, what the Europeans,

00:48:07.740 Western Europeans have done is make moral,

00:48:11.580 what I call moral communities. 0.74

00:48:13.200 That is communities where you have some kind of moral strictures

00:48:19.660 that if you violate them, you are out of the community.

00:48:22.800 And you go back to the, you know, the sagas, the Iceland, you know, the sagas of the Norse, and very much the case.

00:48:34.380 And, of course, in evolutionary terms, if you were not part of the community, you were dead.

00:48:40.460 You know, you were basically had no place to go.

00:48:43.160 So these communities were based not on kinship, but on adhering to the moral norms.

00:48:49.080 Well, who creates the moral norms now in our society? Mass media and academics. And so the moral norms we have now are, in a word, anti-white.

00:49:04.300 And they, you know, they're pro-immigration, anti-racist, all these kinds of things that are manufactured by elites in the media that are able to create culture. 0.72

00:49:19.860 So, you know, in my view, evolution has shifted to the cultural realm completely.

00:49:26.560 Well, not even say completely, but that's the main thing that's going on.

00:49:31.800 And so if you cannot control your culture, you are going to lose in the evolutionary game.

00:49:37.840 And that's really what's happened here.

00:49:39.060 We lost control of our culture.

00:49:41.680 And so what has dominated our culture has been these ideas that, you know, whites have a historically uniquely evil history of slavery and colonialism and that sort of thing, which is false.

00:50:00.780 I mean, slavery was the norm throughout history.

00:50:03.900 Jewish slave traders were a big part of European history.

00:50:08.760 And certainly in the New World, and especially in South America, Jewish slave traders were huge. 0.99

00:50:14.760 But nobody ever blames them. 0.98

00:50:16.880 You know, it's manufactured against white people.

00:50:20.540 White people were the only people to abolish slavery. 0.59

00:50:24.940 And they did it for moral reasons.

00:50:26.560 I have a chapter on that in my book on individualism.

00:50:28.860 Because it's fascinating to see what was going on in the 19th century, the late 18th century, where, especially Christian, it was seen in Christian terms that these people are children of God, and they shouldn't be enslaved, and they would emphasize the cruelty of slavery and all that.

00:50:49.040 And it was, you know, there was still a big economic interest in white slavery, but there was a huge upsurge of popular condemnation of it, led by the Quakers in England, led by the Puritans in America.

00:51:03.980 Puritans were the anti-slavery faction, and they were the ones that, you know, really promoted, you know, the abolitionist side in the Civil War.

00:51:15.640 And so I have a lot on the Puritans for that reason.

00:51:19.980 You know, you see these moral communities that get established.

00:51:24.580 And to get outside that moral community is to sort of isolate yourself from the community.

00:51:31.580 And you put yourself in grave danger, really.

00:51:35.600 You know, if you're a pro-slavery person in an abolitionist society, you know, you're going to have problems in the reverse as well.

00:51:49.260 So these moral communities are the sort of key to understanding the West. 0.69

00:51:54.320 And the problem is, as I said, the problem now is that the people who create the culture, who create these moral communities, are anti-white. 0.66

00:52:05.960 They have big positions in the media, big positions in the culture in general, and the academic culture.

00:52:15.580 Academic culture is very important.

00:52:17.020 And so I have a new section in the revised edition of Culture of Critique on the rise of Jews in the academic world.

00:52:23.780 very important because in the 1960s, especially, Jews became part of the establishment in the

00:52:33.360 academic world, in Ivy League universities. And, you know, universities are top-down institutions. 0.88

00:52:40.360 You know, the Ivy League institutions give PhDs and their students go to University of California,

00:52:47.600 University of Wisconsin, Michigan, and then their students go to lower level universities

00:52:52.460 and finally now in the K-12 education.

00:52:56.580 So it's very much a top-down situation.

00:52:59.700 And all these changes, all the cultural changes that I talk about 0.97

00:53:03.080 is the result of the rise of the Jewish elite in America.

00:53:08.280 They were not in charge of the 1920s. 0.69

00:53:10.960 That's why they lost the immigration battle.

00:53:13.320 But by the 1960s, they had a big position in culture.

00:53:17.880 And that was reflected in Jewish professors in universities

00:53:22.060 who tend to be on the left compared to the old academic establishment

00:53:26.240 and often radical.

00:53:29.700 And then we had, you know, student protests in the 1960s

00:53:34.240 that I lived through, unfortunately.

00:53:38.720 But that's the history of it.

00:53:40.820 And the people, these cultural changes have been top-down,

00:53:48.140 coming from elites.

00:53:49.560 They have not been bottom-up.

00:53:51.260 people at the bottom

00:53:54.060 have not been able to influence

00:53:56.800 culture much at all

00:53:58.020 and they're still not able to

00:53:59.380 and I think that's why

00:54:01.160 I have a little section I put in at the end

00:54:04.140 I do have some hope

00:54:05.860 that again I think money

00:54:08.520 is the key

00:54:09.320 but you have people like Elon Musk

00:54:11.140 who may be a trillionaire soon

00:54:13.300 I mean they're going to have an IPO

00:54:15.360 for SpaceX this year

00:54:17.920 that's going to be huge

00:54:19.740 And he's already got the richest guy in the world.

00:54:23.640 And he's not on page with this immigration multiculturalism stuff.

00:54:31.320 And, you know, they haven't – when you have that much money, you can change things.

00:54:36.640 And you can really have influence.

00:54:39.000 And I think – so people like him. 0.72

00:54:41.760 There are a lot of non-Jewish money out there.

00:54:43.800 And, you know, you look at Trump's contributors prior to Elon Musk getting involved, about the tune of almost $300 million in the last campaign.

00:54:55.300 That's huge, $300 million. 0.66

00:54:57.200 But other non-Jewish white people were contributing as well.

00:55:02.240 Unfortunately, he had Miriam Adelson voting up on $100 million, and that seems to really impress Trump.

00:55:07.440 So Trump is slavishly pro-Israel, and disgustingly so.

00:55:13.800 But anyway, money talks in a democracy like ours.

00:55:19.880 And I think it's part of the individualistic political culture that we have. 0.88

00:55:25.460 So these, you know, politicians are oftentimes basically sociopaths.

00:55:30.980 You know, they're going to go wherever the money is to get reelected.

00:55:34.500 Power and money.

00:55:36.360 And that's what it is.

00:55:38.480 On both sides of the aisle, by the way.

00:55:41.960 Right.

00:55:42.440 Right. Yeah, I was going to ask you here at the very end, just maybe a final word, but it seems as though you already began to bring that up. But I was going to ask you in terms of hope, do you have any hope? Because in so many ways, it feels as though we're already very far gone.

00:56:01.180 um but i you know it's something that we've spoken about uh with yeah um our media organization

00:56:09.260 nxr studios uh but just talking about the the reality is you know a lot of times christians

00:56:16.020 you know i'm i'm a christian and we're a christian um media company but christians often think in

00:56:23.080 terms of individualism and grassroots bottom up um you know christians especially protestants of

00:56:30.600 which i'm i'm one of them um but they you know they think of if you are to change the world or

00:56:36.640 change a nation or change the culture it's going to be um and you know the the um the coliseum of

00:56:44.280 ideas it's going to be you know persuasion compelling um you know changing hearts and

00:56:50.880 minds one at a time uh but i you know and i and i think i just kind of by default believe that for

00:56:58.720 probably the majority of my life wouldn't have even necessarily been able to articulate it but

00:57:03.820 it's it was just subconsciously always there until really recently just in the last couple years

00:57:10.180 where as i've started to understand more history and even more christian history whether it be

00:57:16.420 constantine or king alfred or you know this individual or that individual seeing that

00:57:20.700 even when it comes to the concept of revival um you know even just studying the old testament

00:57:26.460 It's very rare that, you know, the people of Israel under the old covenant and the old covenant, that they all, you know, got together and, you know, the young and the old, the rich and the poor and said, you know what, we just, we have not been behaving ourselves lately and we feel really guilty about that.

00:57:44.180 And we've decided collectively that we just, we want to repent, each one of us, you know, repent of our sins and turn to Yahweh and serve him faithfully.

00:57:55.340 no what typically happened is the people are idolatrous they've gone after you know there's

00:58:02.240 been invasion and you know they've they've hoarded them for themselves um pagan gods from foreign

00:58:09.380 peoples uh but god raises up an individual whether it's one of the judges you know gideon or samson

00:58:15.900 you know or whether it's one of the kings thinking of josiah you know or hezekiah or this individual

00:58:21.540 or that. And this top down, you know, individual with power, real power, position, title, wealth,

00:58:29.860 influence, authority, he comes in and doesn't really care so much what the people think. He

00:58:37.060 comes in with zeal and true conviction. He's not just, you know, a politician who just goes

00:58:44.340 wherever the winds might happen to be blowing, but instead he comes with a genuine conviction 0.98

00:58:49.660 that Israel is going to serve the Lord, and he begins to knock down and destroy all the high 0.83

00:58:55.840 places and the altars and the temples to the Baals and the Asherah poles and these, and against, 0.94

00:59:01.700 actually, that's my point, is against the grassroots, against the people. He says,

00:59:06.260 I know you actually don't like this, but I'm sorry, but the idol worship will stop.

00:59:14.640 And then what happens over time is that eventually, you know, as he puts in new laws against blasphemy or new laws in terms of fidelity to, you know, the true God of Israel, the people's hearts eventually follow suit.

00:59:29.960 And, you know, we're fond of saying, you know, that politics is downstream of culture, but there's a real sense, that's true, but there's a real sense in which it's equally true, if not even perhaps more true, that culture is downstream of politics.

00:59:46.460 You see the shift culturally when it comes to the issue of gay marriage, and then you get a

00:59:51.260 Bergerfell. But in the same breath, we can say that once you got a Bergerfell, the dam breaks 0.87

00:59:56.680 and the culture becomes even more pro-gay, immensely, exponentially more. And so I agree 1.00

01:00:04.600 with you, long way of saying, I agree with you that as a Christian minister, I think that God

01:00:10.860 could send revival. And I think that we should continue to speak to the people that we love,

01:00:15.940 especially our families and our neighbors, and seek to persuade and seek to compel in positive

01:00:22.340 ways. But if history, you know, it doesn't always repeat, but it rhymes. And if history is any

01:00:29.840 indicator, even biblical history, Christian history, Christodom, you know, these kinds of

01:00:33.760 world history, there is a much more higher likelihood, if we had to guess, if things

01:00:42.360 change how they might change there's a far greater likelihood that it would not be grassroots bottom

01:00:48.000 up but it would be um a relatively small number of elites with significant influence power and wealth

01:00:57.400 that uh that make these changes and then the masses eventually follow is it sounds like that's

01:01:05.220 what you're saying and and if so i agree any final word on that yeah i do think that that

01:01:12.020 there is a way forward

01:01:14.420 and things

01:01:16.400 are very bad for us

01:01:18.400 now, bad

01:01:20.500 for Western European countries

01:01:22.240 it's interesting that

01:01:24.300 Eastern European countries are standing up

01:01:26.320 against this

01:01:27.420 and that's sort of what

01:01:30.360 we'd expect, that they're less individualistic

01:01:32.320 by far

01:01:32.920 but I do think

01:01:36.480 that

01:01:36.740 ultimately

01:01:39.420 we have to be able to

01:01:42.020 to create our own moral communities and be able to have influence.

01:01:50.100 It is, you know, one of the things I was just reading today,

01:01:54.640 classic anti-Semitism is to say Jews control the media.

01:01:58.120 Well, you know, in my revised edition, once again, 0.77

01:02:02.180 I go through Jewish ownership of the media. 0.81

01:02:05.080 And I didn't even get to Larry Ellison buying up Paramount, CBS,

01:02:11.020 and sawing a rabidly pro-Israel Barry Weiss. 0.96

01:02:16.660 You know, so the Jews have a huge presence in the media. 0.63

01:02:20.400 I worry about that.

01:02:22.760 But still, and, you know, again, the top-down thing,

01:02:29.000 and now he's got TikTok, apparently.

01:02:31.340 Yes.

01:02:31.940 And that is something that young people like.

01:02:34.620 Well, they're definitely going to, you know, 0.80

01:02:38.220 They're going to censor things that Jews don't like on TikTok. 0.93

01:02:48.420 And that's just the reality. 1.00

01:02:51.860 So I'm hopeful, though. 1.00

01:02:55.240 Again, people like Elon Musk, and there's a lot of other non-Jews who have a lot of money. 1.00

01:03:00.280 We have to push back. 1.00

01:03:03.100 And to the extent we can, get our word out.

01:03:08.280 And again, it's been very useful, I think. 0.96

01:03:11.960 What Israelis did in Gaza is really helping people see that Jews are not the paragon's virtue that you think that they want you to think they are. 1.00

01:03:22.860 That there's something extremely evil in the Jewish mindset. 0.94

01:03:28.980 And if you look at, I just put a video online from Al Jazeera showing what the Israeli army did in Gaza, and it's just unbelievable. 1.00

01:03:40.600 The evil, these people are not paragons of virtue.

01:03:47.240 And we have to understand that and advance our own interests.

01:03:55.040 Yep, I agree.

01:03:57.100 okay how can our listeners follow you uh follow you keep up with what you're working on

01:04:02.000 what am i working on now yeah how can our listeners keep up with what i i edit the

01:04:08.900 actual observer i try to get something out new every day um new articles by writers who write

01:04:17.660 for me and then i i also uh edit the actual quarterly which is a some of the longer articles

01:04:26.300 for Maximal Observer.

01:04:28.440 And, you know, the more academic footnotes and all that

01:04:34.840 comes out four times a year,

01:04:37.640 and it's really a good thing to support.

01:04:40.580 Again, we have to put our money a little bit

01:04:43.620 where our mouth is.

01:04:45.220 We have to subscribe to things that are on page

01:04:49.660 and try to support that

01:04:53.060 because we are in very serious, grave condition, all hands on deck.

01:05:00.120 Everybody has to do what they can.

01:05:03.080 People have to say to themselves, what can I do?

01:05:05.900 I don't like to write.

01:05:07.820 I'm not good at that.

01:05:10.100 I'm not wealthy.

01:05:11.800 Well, find something you can do.

01:05:13.900 Set up an email list or something, anything.

01:05:18.520 Get involved with your local people,

01:05:21.340 because there are people on board.

01:05:23.380 Now, I moved up to northern Idaho,

01:05:27.240 and there's just a lot of people up there

01:05:29.620 that are on board with ideas like mine,

01:05:32.600 and we have a real community up there.

01:05:35.120 I know a lot of people,

01:05:36.800 and I had a feeling that these people would have my back

01:05:39.620 if something terrible happened.

01:05:42.100 If the Antifa somehow got a toehold up there,

01:05:44.320 which they won't,

01:05:46.200 and started going after me or other people up there,

01:05:49.040 we would

01:05:51.020 we are a community and we understand

01:05:53.520 the need to sort of bind together

01:05:55.680 and

01:05:56.800 so that's important

01:05:58.940 to be part, think of what you can do

01:06:01.680 personally to get involved

01:06:03.500 if only just

01:06:04.700 to be part of a community is a great thing

01:06:07.460 and it feels good

01:06:08.680 because you feel like you're on board with

01:06:11.060 people, you know

01:06:12.940 we talked about moral communities, well

01:06:14.580 we have a moral community in a sense

01:06:16.980 We have a sense of what is moral, what is right.

01:06:23.880 We feel white people have been being hated. 0.52

01:06:28.580 And so we band together on that basis to a great extent.

01:06:34.460 So anyway, that's my pitch.

01:06:37.760 Oxfam Observer, Oxfam Quarterly.

01:06:40.680 We have to keep working hard and don't give up.

01:06:45.060 We can turn this around.

01:06:46.980 Yeah. Amen. Well, Dr. Kevin McDonald, thank you so much for your time and coming on the show. We

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01:11:00.240 Antonio Griffith a moment to be able to respond to the interview that we all just watched.

01:11:06.080 When you start looking into reading, researching, listening to the question of Jewish power in

01:11:11.860 America, it's very easy at the beginning, you can think of the first gulp of the glass, 0.97

01:11:16.240 that you go a little bit overboard, and you begin to see Jews involved in everything, 0.97

01:11:21.000 and you can come to the conclusion, maybe you read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, 0.90

01:11:24.840 well, Jews run the world. They have this secret cabal, and it's like the Illuminati, 0.94

01:11:28.540 and they're all powerful and in control of everything. Now, most people don't stick with

01:11:32.880 that ultimately as being the explanation, but what Dr. Kevin MacDonald articulates so well

01:11:37.900 here in the interview and in his book is there's actually a much more benign explanation. It's

01:11:42.400 a lot less malicious. You're not attributing to someone inherent malice, inherent desire for the

01:11:47.800 destruction of European countries. But it's an approach that almost all of us would take if we

01:11:52.000 were in a similar situation. Jews have been persecuted since the start of Christendom.

01:11:57.160 Some of it they brought on themselves. Some of it they didn't. Some of it was over the top.

01:12:02.420 Then they often responded when Jerusalem collapses for the first time. I think it's in the early 0.90

01:12:07.800 600s, Jews burned churches of the Christians that persecuted them just decades before. And so there's

01:12:13.240 been this ongoing antagonism between the two groups. And when it comes to our American context

01:12:18.080 and immigration, and even the elites like Epstein, they're very much so taking a look at the

01:12:22.720 landscape and saying, it is very much so in our interest, just as a people, to survive if we bring

01:12:29.440 a lot of people in here. A lot of different minority groups, whether it be from India, whether

01:12:33.460 it be from South America, whether it be from Eastern Europe. The more people, the more diversity,

01:12:38.680 the more cultures we have here, the less likely we get picked out and targeted. And they are

01:12:44.220 absolutely correct in that sense. They're making a rational calculation and saying for the good of

01:12:49.920 our in-group, for the good of our people, it is best if we promote immigration. And when the

01:12:54.920 United States had a policy on immigration that prioritized Western European immigration,

01:12:59.220 that was not what was best for their people. They were kicked out. Dr. McDonald goes into this in

01:13:03.900 his book, The Elite Universities. There's very much so a type of WASP universalism. It was

01:13:11.100 universally Protestants, universally Christians, universally Western Europeans. They didn't let 1.00

01:13:16.860 the Jews in. And so Jews said, it is in our best interest to bring these people in. Now, here's the 1.00

01:13:21.460 thing that we have to respond with. As Americans, is this in our best interest? Okay, so my family's

01:13:27.700 been here for 200 years. These people arrived much more recently, and they're looking to be

01:13:32.160 seeming to shift the ethnic makeup of the nation. And they're doing that explicitly so they don't 0.94

01:13:36.960 get targeted, so they don't get called out, and they don't get isolated. And what we have to

01:13:40.700 answer is, is this in our best interest? They're acting in their best interest. You guys talked

01:13:44.840 about that at the end of the interview. Will we be willing to act in ours? And if we come to the

01:13:49.160 conclusion, no, mass immigration is not good. It's not good for our jobs. It's not good for the safety 0.99

01:13:53.940 of our society. It's not good for building a cohesive, patriotic culture that people want

01:13:58.560 to live in. If that's not good for us, then you have to have the courage to be willing to stand

01:14:02.820 up and say, I understand where you're coming from, and I get it, and I might even do the same thing

01:14:07.560 if I was in that boat. But I'm not. And this is destroying the country. And so because it's our

01:14:12.880 country and our land and our ancestors built it and settled the frontier, we're going to have to

01:14:17.840 say no. Tens of millions, they have to go back. And in the future, our immigration policy needs 0.61

01:14:22.840 to mirror what it did in the past, because that produced a prosperous, healthy, safe nation. And

01:14:28.340 if you don't like that, we don't hate you. We're not trying to be malicious, but you've got to

01:14:33.980 step aside. You don't get to have the reins of power if you're going to use that power to

01:14:38.280 disadvantage us and our children at our posterity. Well said. Yeah. One of the reasons conservatives

01:14:43.260 have continually lost over the last five decades, and everyone's aware of this, is because they've

01:14:49.380 continually accepted the framing of the left. And so a lot of people use this sort of this trite

01:14:54.620 phrase of conservatives just defend what liberals pushed for 10 years ago. And one of the reasons

01:15:01.120 that is, is because conservatives have never really done the work of determining why the

01:15:06.380 postmodern liberal policies we have today actually emerged and what they're the consequence of. And

01:15:10.980 I've said this before, but one of the efforts of the new Christian right is to really uncover 0.99

01:15:16.500 policies from 50 years ago, 60 years ago, that are now serving to the detriment of Americans 0.90

01:15:22.520 and people who are America first. And that's why some people might criticize this and say,

01:15:27.980 oh, well, you're going back into the 50s and 60s and evaluating immigration policy as if it has any

01:15:33.180 real impact today. But the fact of the matter is politics have consequences. And to your point,

01:15:39.360 Wes, and further to Dr. McDonald's point, politics is fundamentally demographic interest.

01:15:45.540 Everyone knows this. And so if you have a demographic that's consistently accepting the frame of another demographic, then of course their policies are going to skew, even in opposition, skew in the direction of that demographic. And that's basically the conversation that we're having here.

01:16:00.280 That's such a great point. You're accepting the frame of another ethnic group. Your ethnic group coming under the framing of another ethnic group. What's good for them? Oh, I guess that's good for us too. Actually, maybe it's not.

01:16:10.060 And it's good to know that, to your point, these are psychological, rational choices being made by sort of opponents, if you will.

01:16:20.760 It's things that are explainable in their frame.

01:16:23.980 They're certainly internally consistent. 0.99

01:16:26.680 That is the Jews and the Zionists. 0.98

01:16:28.220 They're internally consistent. 0.58

01:16:29.220 What they believe about them being an in-group and both their religious and political underpinnings of their worldview, it's no surprise.

01:16:37.400 And so to some extent, you would think they shouldn't even really be offended that we're addressing this or rightly identifying that this is true because it's actually, if anything, being gracious towards them and saying, hey, you're being rational.

01:16:52.240 We don't think you're being malicious, but we just have opposing interests.

01:16:56.040 Right.

01:16:56.400 Yeah, there's two things that we need.

01:16:58.020 We're simple men here at NXR Studios.

01:17:00.220 We desire simple things, right?

01:17:01.860 We're humble, centrist, moderates in every sense of the term.

01:17:05.800 and all we long for is by the grace of God for heritage Americans, and even more particularly

01:17:11.880 Christians in the West, to simply desire for ourselves and work towards our own ends the

01:17:18.400 very same things that Jews do for themselves, right? You don't have to attribute everything

01:17:23.360 to malice. You don't have to impute motives and come up with some sort of sinister conclusion.

01:17:29.220 Are there individual Jews, certain Jewish billionaires, certain Jewish politicians,

01:17:36.300 Jewish elites who have sinister motives? 0.99

01:17:39.900 Yeah, I think so. 1.00

01:17:41.880 But the average Jewish person, are they absolutely wicked and they're all doing this? 1.00

01:17:49.300 I don't think so. 1.00

01:17:50.820 I think the average Jewish person, whether it be someone who is an Israeli citizen or

01:17:55.520 someone here in America, there are actually more ethnic Jews that live in America than

01:17:59.040 Israel currently. That's something important to keep in mind. For the average Jewish person,

01:18:03.180 I don't think that they're malicious. I think that they simply have an in-group preference. 0.98

01:18:08.780 They actually view themselves as a collective, right? They actually think in terms of identity,

01:18:13.700 much to, you know, someone like Tucker Carlson, who we all appreciate greatly. But this is

01:18:18.860 something where I think Tucker gets it wrong. He's like, well, I've worked really hard to get

01:18:22.360 rid of identity politics. And the irony is that all politics is identity politics. So what you're

01:18:28.300 ultimately doing is you're seeking to convince your own people to not play by the exact rules

01:18:34.500 that every other group does. And then you wonder why we're losing. Well, imagine if you were playing

01:18:39.620 basketball and you said, you know, when it comes to the rules of the game, we have determined for

01:18:46.100 our team, because we want to be above and beyond in our sportsmanship, in our degree of skill,

01:18:52.760 all these kinds of things, we've determined we will not shoot the basketball except by using

01:18:57.560 our feet. Every time we're going to make a shot, we're going to quickly get back on our backs,

01:19:02.620 on the court, put the ball between our two feet, and use our legs to try to shoot it through

01:19:07.880 the hoop. Now, here's the problem. None of the referees, none of the actual people in charge

01:19:14.040 of the league have made that determination, made that an official rule for everyone else.

01:19:18.180 So all the other teams are still shooting the ball with their hands like a sensical person.

01:19:23.740 It's only your team that's decided, hey, we're going to intentionally and deliberately disadvantage

01:19:30.440 our own team in the name of some kind of greater virtue or more. All politics is identity politics.

01:19:39.380 All of the world, every religion, whether it be Muslims or whether it be Judaism or whether it

01:19:43.560 be Hinduism or Buddhism, every other religion views themselves collectively as an identity,

01:19:49.160 as a group. Every other ethnicity or race views themselves collectively as a group. It is primarily

01:19:55.720 comes down to two things. Let's just name it. Let's just be honest. It's white people and it's

01:20:00.460 Christians. It's white people and it's Christians. These are the only two groups, speaking racially, 0.86

01:20:05.840 biologically, and speaking religiously, spiritually, that refuse to see themselves as a collective, 0.99

01:20:11.980 and even furthermore, with greater stupidity, have somehow convinced themselves that no one else does 0.99

01:20:18.500 either. And then we wonder why we lose all the time. So we are simple men. I said we desire two 0.99

01:20:26.120 things. Number one, first and foremost, we desire simply for our people, both in the national,

01:20:32.440 political, and even racial, ethnic sense, for heritage Americans to view themselves

01:20:37.920 as in their own in-group, that they would prefer and love their own, the auto amorce,

01:20:45.540 natural affections than in the spiritual religious category that especially our christian brothers

01:20:51.000 and sisters would view themselves as a group and band together work together voting towards their

01:20:57.220 interest we desire this then the second thing is this is a little bit further but it's perfectly

01:21:02.600 logical and reasonable and wesley already said this and tony already said this but once we can

01:21:07.460 accomplish step one and step one should be should be easy but sadly uh the last few decades have

01:21:12.920 proved it's a monumental task for heritage Americans and Christians to actually care about

01:21:17.580 their own people. So it's probably going to take some time, but once we can finally accomplish that,

01:21:22.540 Lord willing, the second one would be this. Anyone in our vicinity, in our nation, in our

01:21:28.680 body politic that is not necessarily malicious, but who is striving for certain things that are

01:21:36.200 in contradiction towards our people and our interest and our good, that we would put certain

01:21:43.160 restrictions on that. So we'd say, hey, there's actually a bunch of Jews in America, and many of 1.00

01:21:49.080 them are sweet people. But there are some that are in high positions of power and disproportionately

01:21:55.220 represented and have clear biases towards the nation of Israel, a foreign country, and not our

01:22:02.000 own. And they're really good at it because they're generally very intelligent and socially mobile.

01:22:06.140 They're high performers.

01:22:07.040 Those are the facts.

01:22:07.740 Exactly, yeah.

01:22:08.360 They are intelligent people.

01:22:09.740 They are.

01:22:10.800 And so because of that, because Haitians, let's just be honest, even if it was disproportionate 0.88

01:22:17.040 representatives in political office here in America from Haitians, it probably would not 0.99

01:22:22.100 be as successful. 1.00

01:22:23.560 Jews are richer. 0.99

01:22:25.000 Jews are smarter. 0.99

01:22:26.380 These are facts. 0.99

01:22:27.840 We know this.

01:22:28.800 It's like, well, that's white supremacy.

01:22:30.200 No, well, technically, that would have been Jewish supremacy, and I'm not a Jew.

01:22:33.500 So the point is, sorry, I just kind of choked myself up over that.

01:22:38.740 Sometimes, you know, sometimes my jokes are just so good.

01:22:40.840 If no one else laughs, I got to laugh at them myself.

01:22:43.140 But the point is this.

01:22:44.400 First, can we see ourselves as a collective?

01:22:47.560 Can we love our own, both in the natural category, heritage Americans, nationally, politically, ethnically, these things, and then in the spiritual category as well.

01:22:57.500 And I'm not saying necessarily that order.

01:22:58.980 I think the spiritual is even more important.

01:23:00.500 but Christian, Christian, that matters. Then once we can do that, so first, prefer your own.

01:23:07.620 Second, in humane, legal, benevolent ways, limit the opposition. Limit the opposition.

01:23:17.040 Put them on trains? No, I'm not saying that. But what I am saying is if there are Jews in America

01:23:24.000 and they're disproportionately represented, start politically in your government, right? 0.90

01:23:29.200 So if 2% of America is ethnically Jewish, but 4%, for instance, and it's higher, but 4% of your political apparatus is Jewish representatives, then maybe don't do that. 0.54

01:23:46.000 Maybe say, you know what, maybe we shouldn't do that. 0.64

01:23:49.460 And I have very clear solutions for this so that it's not biased, it's not malicious, it's not arbitrary or capricious.

01:23:59.200 I think that we should have a standard of men. 0.92

01:24:02.760 It should be men, not women. 0.98

01:24:04.580 It should be Christians.

01:24:06.640 It should also be heritage Americans that have, on both sides of their family,

01:24:10.320 been in America for at least three generations, no criminal record,

01:24:14.420 and net positive tax-paying citizens.

01:24:18.440 So these are guys who are not on the welfare system.

01:24:20.900 These are guys who are not criminals.

01:24:22.020 These are guys who are guys.

01:24:23.640 They're men and not women.

01:24:24.800 They're also Christian.

01:24:26.120 They've made a profession of faith.

01:24:28.300 They, you know, they've signed off and affirmed something like the Apostles' Creed or the

01:24:32.140 Nicene Creed, and they also are heritage Americans.

01:24:35.760 They've been here for at least three generations.

01:24:37.520 And if I added anything else, I would like them to be married.

01:24:40.240 So they have a stake in the past, three generations, stake in the future, they're married, which

01:24:43.560 ordinarily, doesn't always, but ordinarily means future posterity, okay?

01:24:47.720 Stake in the past of the country and a stake in the future.

01:24:51.780 Let's draw that as a boundary for who gets to hold office in America.

01:24:56.800 So you're not just picking on the Jews, right? 0.94

01:24:58.840 You're equal offenders. 0.96

01:25:00.260 You're picking on the Muslims, and you're picking on this, and you're picking on that.

01:25:03.860 You're saying, no, we're an American country, and we're a Christian country.

01:25:08.380 And so these are the guidelines.

01:25:10.360 These are the rules for who gets to play in our body politic.

01:25:15.180 This is perfectly reasonable.

01:25:16.460 So number one, view yourself as a group, favor your own, love your people.

01:25:22.160 That doesn't necessitate hatred towards others.

01:25:25.120 you don't have to hate others. You just need to start loving your own. That's number one.

01:25:30.280 Then number two, limit others if it's disproportional for sure. And if it's in that

01:25:37.260 disproportional representation, there's clear, biased contradictions that are at odds with what

01:25:44.980 is good and what benefits your people. Find a way to limit that humanely, righteously,

01:25:50.660 biblically but you got to do these things these are really really basic things and this is where

01:25:56.040 people racist anti-semite no this is this is how the founders thought this is how um every christian

01:26:05.380 has thought until very very recently we have to be able to have these conversations we're going

01:26:10.900 to continue to say it till we're blue in the face or until you know everybody just shuts us down

01:26:16.200 and even then i might just get a bullhorn and stand on the street corner and keep saying it 0.94

01:26:20.600 All right, that would prove Jews don't run the media. 0.90

01:26:22.700 If we got kicked off for saying Jews run the media 0.97

01:26:25.020 and they kicked us off for it, it'd be like, 0.94

01:26:26.880 wait, I feel like that just proved the point everyone was saying.

01:26:30.260 It was pretty funny with Nick Fuentes went to the club

01:26:34.020 with all these right-wing influencers.

01:26:35.780 And for the record, we don't support that.

01:26:39.060 They shouldn't be in a club.

01:26:40.660 Nick, in his defense, he looked very uncomfortable.

01:26:43.260 He had like a fish out of water. 0.75

01:26:44.860 The other guys, though, a little bit more degenerate.

01:26:48.680 And so don't support that.

01:26:49.900 But the irony was that, you know, they played the the Howl Hitler song by Kanye.

01:26:57.320 And after playing that in the club, they got kicked out of like every nightclub in the entire city of Miami.

01:27:05.180 And it was just funny because the Jewish mayor of Miami denounces it by name.

01:27:08.940 Why are you kicking? It's like we're kicking out Nick Fuentes.

01:27:11.220 And these guys are anti-Semitic. They said that Jews rule the world. 0.93

01:27:14.360 And it's like, but the Jewish owner of the nightclub just kicked out for playing this song, Nick Fuentes, from every nightclub in the entire city.

01:27:22.840 So we are furious that you say Jews are in charge of everything.

01:27:27.180 And also, we're kicking you out of everything because we actually are in charge of everything.

01:27:31.260 It was pretty ironic.

01:27:32.260 Okay, Antonio, let's do it.

01:27:33.580 Yeah, let's jump.

01:27:34.220 Let's start with the Rumble super chat from Yavin.

01:27:36.120 he sent $20 and says, regarding the inconsistency between the fascist ethno-nationalism of Zionism

01:27:42.780 and the multiculturalism religious pluralism of the left Jews, do they share a monolithic

01:27:48.600 Jewish consciousness? Yes. The only thing that I think all three of us would want to push back

01:27:55.100 on here is just take the word fascist out of it. Not because it's a no-no word, not because we're

01:28:00.360 scared, because it's just not true. So I actually don't want to give that to the libtards, to the 1.00

01:28:07.860 raging leftists and progressives, because what they want to do is say, you want to have a country 1.00

01:28:11.860 and a future for your children, you're a fascist, right? And so in having equal weights and measures,

01:28:17.940 right, being fair across the board, it actually is not fascist. If the Jews in Israel are saying,

01:28:24.500 we want predominantly an ethno state here in Israel. That's not fascist, right? Is Japan

01:28:32.640 fascist? No. Is Uganda fascist? No. Is Russia fascist? Maybe. Maybe. I don't think so. But

01:28:42.320 anyways, so take the fascist part out of it, not because it's a no-no word, but because it's just

01:28:47.780 technically imprecise. It's just not true. So instead, let's read the question like this,

01:28:51.860 Regarding the inconsistency between the ethno-nationalist of Zionism, and I'm thinking primarily Jews in Israel, Israeli citizens, their government and for their nation, and then the multiculturalism, religious pluralism of Jews on the left.

01:29:08.900 And in that regard, I'm thinking of mainly Jews in America.

01:29:11.300 I believe it's about 70, 80% of Jews in America are left.

01:29:16.660 And voting patterns, I believe, is a hard 80% Democrat vote every single election. 0.65

01:29:21.860 And so there's Jews on the right who are in Israel, and they think, for Israel, let's have an ethno-state.

01:29:30.820 Let's let it be Jewish and prefer our people.

01:29:33.400 And then Jews outside of Israel in America are, let's embrace multiculturalism.

01:29:39.320 For Israel? No here. 0.96

01:29:41.760 And so what I would say is, yeah, just two sides.

01:29:43.920 They're predicated on the same fundamental assumption, which is we are our in-group.

01:29:47.560 and when we're in a place where we can be the ruling class, if you will.

01:29:52.180 If we're in a place that's ours, let's keep it us.

01:29:55.060 And if we're in a place that's not, where we're a minority, 0.64

01:29:58.180 let's make that acceptable to be a minority in group.

01:30:00.940 If we're in a place where we're outnumbered, 0.99

01:30:02.760 then let's push for as few preferences towards the native population as possible, 0.99

01:30:09.820 knowing that it will not only exclusively benefit them,

01:30:13.900 it would benefit Muslims, it would benefit this,

01:30:16.160 but in america let's just be honest jews in america are not particularly uh worried about

01:30:21.880 being slaughtered by muslims because there's defenses and you know america is not going to 0.91

01:30:28.020 allow one percent two percent muslim exactly so in israel it's like no let's keep this jewish 0.98

01:30:33.420 in america it's um let's not keep this western christian white so that that's actually not 0.89

01:30:43.140 contradicting it's not very rational right very right as we said very rational psychological even

01:30:48.460 in the way that it just varies situationally yes it sounds like you got seven thousand dollars

01:30:52.740 in tony what happened my point is i don't even think it's two different uh it's not two different

01:30:58.180 ideologies and i don't think it's related to two different groups there's one group of jews in

01:31:02.580 israel that thinks this way and one group of jews in america that thinks this way i think you could

01:31:06.580 literally uh quite literally it'd be you know nobody could could force this to happen but it

01:31:10.580 would be fascinating and i put my money on it um i think you could literally swap them out you could

01:31:15.940 swap out the the right wing ethno-nationalist supporting jews in israel with the left wing

01:31:22.620 jews in america swap them out and i think they would actually do the same thing these guys over

01:31:27.760 here who are like ethno say in this context over here on the other side of the pond here in america

01:31:33.640 would be at multiculturalism and these guys over here who are multiculturalism and voting democrat

01:31:39.000 every election, if they're over here and they're a majority all of a sudden, Israel, they'd be like, 0.86

01:31:43.600 no, keep it Jewish. Yeah. Here's an interesting, we don't have to open this up too much, but it is 0.98

01:31:48.740 interesting politically, you mentioned that 70% of Jews in America vote on the left. 80. Or 80%.

01:31:54.500 The left is predominantly multicultural, but also becoming increasingly anti-Israel. And the right

01:32:01.720 is becoming increasingly, if you will, nationalistic, and so the Jews in America, that is, 0.95

01:32:10.340 they're kind of in the middle ground. What party do we want to pick? Do we want to pick the party 0.94

01:32:14.200 that's multicultural and allows us to be our own in-group, or do we want to pick the party that

01:32:17.620 might be a little bit more Zionist and friendly toward Israel, but they're actually in their own

01:32:22.660 nation less comfortable with us being there? Yeah, and I think ultimately what it will come

01:32:26.760 down to, they'll pick the side, they'll pick whether it's the left or the right, I think 0.87

01:32:30.760 they'll ultimately, the Jews in America, will pick the side that is most likely to put on the books 0.82

01:32:36.460 anti-Semitism laws to arrest the three of us, which sadly means they'll probably end up being 0.88

01:32:42.420 on the right. Because I'll be honest, the left, terrible. They're supporting the mass, you know,

01:32:49.900 immigration, invasion of our country, the Somalians and Indian and this and that. But let's just be 1.00

01:32:55.040 honest, on the right, although morally, when it comes to abortion, when it comes to homosexuality,

01:32:59.240 all these issues, I am right-wing, 100%, and I'm not going to muddy the waters. But it is probably 0.63

01:33:06.500 going to be the right, if I had to guess, right? Is it going to be AOC, or is it going to be

01:33:13.560 Peter Thiel, who gives us anti-Semitism laws? I think we know the answer to that,

01:33:21.800 and that's something that we just need to be aware of.

01:33:25.080 And that shared consciousness, remember, that comes from a group of people being

01:33:28.460 shaped by hundreds and hundreds of years of the same experience. We went over this in our genetics

01:33:32.860 episode we did a while ago, but Ashkenazi Jews have the highest rates of schizophrenia, which is

01:33:37.560 marked by hallmarks such as paranoia. These are these examples of how these people come to be 1.00

01:33:42.620 shaped by continuously being kicked out, people continuously being suspicious of them, constantly

01:33:47.320 being in an out group. And so they've been shaped to have, whether it be paranoia, schizophrenia,

01:33:51.880 to have these hallmarks that they're very much so looking out for themselves. And that's what

01:33:55.920 happens when a people, over time, they are shaped by all of the things that happened to them. So we

01:34:01.520 understand where this comes from. We get it. The Catholic monarchs, I mean, they were constantly

01:34:05.740 kicking them out because they had this group in Christendom that sticks out like a sore thumb.

01:34:09.920 They didn't share a land with Hindus. They didn't share a land with Muslims. There was one group of 0.82

01:34:13.260 people, and sometimes they got blamed when they didn't even do it. Sometimes they did. Sometimes

01:34:17.880 they didn't. But that shaped them as a people to be what they're like now, which is when we're in

01:34:23.080 In a scenario, we're the minority, 0.97

01:34:25.560 immigration as much as possible. 1.00

01:34:26.940 Let us not be the only stock standing up

01:34:29.760 that can be cut down.

01:34:30.920 But when it's finally our own, 0.89

01:34:32.440 this was Zionism, we have our home. 1.00

01:34:34.840 Lock that thing down. 1.00

01:34:37.240 Right, well said.

01:34:38.260 All right, next one.

01:34:38.960 Yeah, let's stay on the rumble side.

01:34:41.040 Caesar's back sent $10 and says,

01:34:43.140 referring to you, Joel,

01:34:44.360 agree on your take on Babel, Pentecost.

01:34:46.720 Could Babel be a natural foreshadowing

01:34:48.540 of what's spiritually done at Pentecost?

01:34:50.720 one nation, one holy people, one language, communion with God, Babel, New Jerusalem.

01:34:56.700 Yeah, I appreciate that. No, and the reason why I think no is what was happening at Babel. So we

01:35:02.640 have to be careful with types and shadows, types and anti-types when it comes to the Bible, you

01:35:08.320 know, symbology and these kinds of things. So the ram that's caught in the thicket with its horns

01:35:13.540 when Abraham is about to sacrifice his son Isaac in obedience to the Lord, and then the angel

01:35:18.520 stills Abraham's hand in the last moment and provides the sacrifice of the ram that's caught

01:35:23.980 in the thicket, that ram is a type that points towards Jesus, who ultimately takes away the

01:35:29.860 sins of the world, the final, you know, pure and spotless lamb of God. And so there are types and

01:35:35.020 shadows in the Bible. There's plenty of covenant signs. But in the case of Babel, no, because I

01:35:41.480 think what the writer is getting at in this case, Caesar's back, is saying not the judgment that

01:35:47.580 happened at Babel, where God comes down and confuses their languages. But I think he's talking

01:35:51.560 about the project of Babel before the judgment intervened. I think he's talking about the project

01:35:57.640 of Babel, everyone staying together. And remember, there are two main sins that I've outlined with 0.88

01:36:02.780 what happened at Babel. One is a blazing arrogance, right? Let's build a tower that stretches to the 0.66

01:36:08.260 heavens, not to commune with God, but to be like God and to rival God. Let's build a tower that

01:36:13.880 stretches to the heavens so that we can be closer to God, so that we can speak to God. No, it says

01:36:18.860 so that we might make a name for ourselves, that we might be as God. So there's the arrogance factor.

01:36:24.500 The second is so that also we will not be scattered over the face of the earth, that we

01:36:29.680 won't be separated. But that's the very thing in the cultural mandate that God gave to mankind to

01:36:33.940 do. Be fruitful and multiply, so have lots of people, and go and fill the earth and subdue it,

01:36:40.200 right? So make lots of people and then spread all these people out so that the whole earth is filled

01:36:46.700 with image bearers of the living God, worshiping the triune God in spirit and in truth, so that

01:36:51.980 the whole earth is filled with the knowledge of the glory of God as the waters cover the sea.

01:36:55.800 That's the big idea. That's the biblical thread from beginning to end. And what's happening at

01:37:00.600 Babel, not the judgment of God, but the project of Babel itself was a sinful, wicked project of 0.90

01:37:06.600 rebellion, both in arrogance to the glory of God, but also rebellion, disobedience to the command 1.00

01:37:13.260 of God, to be fruitful, multiply, and to spread out and fill the earth. And so, no, I don't believe

01:37:18.180 that that should be used as a type, because if we're not careful, then we can just say everything

01:37:22.820 in the Bible is a type and shadow. The Bible has lots of types and shadows, but everything is not

01:37:28.280 a type and shadow. Then we can point to anyone's rebellion. We can say, well, Lamech, you know,

01:37:32.500 he's the first guy to have a polygamous marriage, and he takes two wives, and that's, you know, 0.97

01:37:37.160 actually just a type that Jesus one day would have a bride, the church, and it would be made up of 0.72

01:37:42.280 two women, you know, the Gentiles and the Jews, that they would come into one, and that's just

01:37:47.100 not how we read the Bible. So I think that the listener who put this in, I want to commend you.

01:37:54.100 I know what you're doing here, and the conclusion you come to is a right conclusion, but it's

01:37:59.060 important as we're doing the work of hermeneutics and reading and studying the Scripture that we

01:38:03.560 not only land on the right conclusion, the right answer, but that we get there the right way. So

01:38:08.020 think of like your math homework when you were in third or fourth grade, and it's not just enough

01:38:12.160 to write down the right answer. Your teacher, math teacher, would always say, show me the work.

01:38:16.140 Show me how you got there so that I know you didn't just plug it into your calculator, right? I want

01:38:20.140 to see your work. I want to see how you got there. And so whenever we're using types and shadows in

01:38:24.600 the Scripture. They need to be legitimate forms of types and antitypes, and I don't think that

01:38:30.340 Babel is a type that points towards Pentecost. Now, if you want to say that the judgment of God

01:38:36.820 at Babel, confusing their languages, that that was a type for the reversal at Pentecost, 0.98

01:38:41.980 I think that that's true, and a lot of guys like Calvin or like Bovink held to that, 0.97

01:38:45.960 but they all held to it with the important disclaimer that a lot of our gay race communist 0.62

01:38:50.500 Christians today, modernists, will leave out. And the disclaimer that we hold and that other

01:38:56.680 theologians of antiquity also included is, yes, the judgment, not the project of Babel, the project

01:39:03.060 of their rebellion, but the judgment of God because of their rebellion at Babel, confusing

01:39:08.220 the languages, is a type for the reversal that happened at Pentecost when God allowed them to

01:39:13.820 speak in tongues of other nations and tribes so that they would hear the preaching of the gospel.

01:39:18.620 but the disclaimer is, but that was temporary, whereas God's confusing of the languages at

01:39:23.600 Babel was permanent. So what God did in His judgment at Babel was permanent so that peoples

01:39:29.480 actually would be distinct and remain so, whereas what God did in His reversal at Pentecost was a

01:39:35.780 supernatural act to kickstart as a catalyst for the gospel to go global, but it was not a permanent

01:39:42.060 change. 2,000 years removed, we're not all speaking one language. So God allowed for them to hear

01:39:48.440 all the people that were gathered there in Jerusalem at that time, God supernaturally

01:39:52.460 allowed his disciples, the disciples of Jesus, the 72, meeting in the upper room, who were

01:39:58.180 infilled and empowered by the Holy Ghost to speak in the supernatural gift of tongues so that all

01:40:04.440 these other tribes and nations represented at that time could hear the gospel preached in their own

01:40:10.140 language, but then it ceased. They took the knowledge of the gospel back with them, but

01:40:15.820 speaking their own languages, and the 72 go back to speaking their language. So that was a temporary 0.98

01:40:22.260 supernatural catalyst for one spiritual nation grafted into the church, but not to somehow undo

01:40:30.640 the natural distinctions in the temporal realm of fleshly nations. This is God's idea, and it remains

01:40:37.980 so. Well said. Two more Super Chats we'll hit here on the YouTube side. P.O. Andrew sent $5 and says,

01:40:44.980 the U.S. had laws and state constitutions against interracial marriage in most states until 1967

01:40:49.940 and only completely made it legal in 2022 with the Respect for Marriage Act, RFMA.

01:40:56.500 You know history better than I do. 0.98

01:40:58.140 Yeah, this is true.

01:40:58.960 It's no surprise.

01:41:00.100 The left has accomplished so many of its big wins or achievements politically through judicial

01:41:06.900 activism.

01:41:07.680 And so whether it's through the civil rights era, whether it's related to same-sex unions,

01:41:12.400 it's always predominantly through the courts. And then later, once they've changed the popular

01:41:18.320 consensus on the issue, they'll come and pass a law that statutorily protects those things.

01:41:23.400 And so in December 2022, the Respect for Marriage Act basically reversed the Defense of Marriage

01:41:28.880 Act from 1996 and made it officially, if you will, legal, although it would have been

01:41:34.220 unconstitutional, according to the Supreme Court, to put laws against interracial marriage in any

01:41:38.880 of the 50 states and for the record it was only about 14 states so 67 is loving versus virginia

01:41:44.220 30 states had laws on the books in 1940s into 1950 it was down to about 14 by the start of 1960 and

01:41:50.840 there was still loose enforcement even and there was loose enforcement yeah so a lot of people when

01:41:55.040 they put a comment like that like well did you know that the 1790 immigration act said free

01:41:59.140 white people like wow we never knew that we know but also some there's some additional context which

01:42:04.140 in this case it was 14 of about 50 states at the time not quite that had laws on the books okay

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01:42:22.500 thank you so much to those guys who are super chatting in and helping us to fund uh this this

01:42:28.080 media company uh we that's that's what we want to do we want to exist to get information out

01:42:33.480 that a lot of people are not willing to talk about.

01:42:36.360 And then some of the guys who are willing

01:42:37.700 to talk about these things, they talk about them,

01:42:39.940 but let's just be honest, they're nationalist heavy,

01:42:42.860 but Christian light, they just are.

01:42:45.820 And so we're trying to say, no, no, no,

01:42:47.160 we are unapologetic Christians and we know our Bibles

01:42:50.960 and we know theology and we're not hiding our Christianity.

01:42:55.240 That's right there, front and center.

01:42:57.560 But we're also not Christians who, let's be honest,

01:43:01.060 a lot of the guys who are Christian heavy,

01:43:02.300 they're just post-war consensus respecters you know they're like they're christian heavy but

01:43:07.080 um but really they're they're globalists they're they don't believe they don't believe the flesh

01:43:13.040 that the temporal realm the earthly realm is of any value or any account and so we're trying to 0.51

01:43:18.640 say no nations matter race is real um jewish influence and you know world jewry jew jewish

01:43:26.460 supremacy these things are real we need to be aware of these things race is real jewish supremacy

01:43:31.580 is real. The earthly realm matters. Nationalism matters. Patriarchy is real. Women need to go 0.78

01:43:38.720 home respectfully, but go home. All these things are real. But also, Christ is king, and not just 1.00

01:43:45.340 as a slur, but legitimately, Christ is king. And if this nation becomes an ethno-nation, but not

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01:45:51.440 I don't know.

The NXR Podcast - February 02, 2026

NXR Livestream - Jewish Supremacy & The Goyim with Dr. Kevin MacDonald

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