The NXR Podcast - NXR Livestream - Jewish Supremacy & The Goyim with Dr. Kevin MacDonald

00:00:00 All right, in today's episode we have a fascinating interview with Dr. Kevin McDonald and everybody

00:00:06 has probably seen the latest revelations of the Epstein files. I think that this is probably at

00:00:12 this point, I don't know, phase three, phase four, phase five, and I think we have some more phases

00:00:17 to go. There are still plenty of things that are redacted that people are going to want to see

00:00:22 more things. Like who is this mystery guy whose name is blotted out that Jeffrey Epstein was

00:00:29 supposed to kill. These kinds of things the public deserves to know, and so I think we'll have

00:00:34 another phase and another phase, but this latest revelation was really, in many ways, a bombshell.

00:00:40 It showed, if nothing else, it showed the blatant disdain and hatred of Epstein. You can do a quick

00:00:48 early life check on Epstein. The name, it's pretty obvious, but he had a blatant disdain and hatred

00:00:56 towards white people. He viewed non-Jewish people as less than. People right now are always talking 0.97

00:01:02 about the dangers of white supremacy, the dangers of neo-Nazism. Well, I'll go on record and say

00:01:09 this. As far as anyone can find, and even scrubbing and using certain AI tools to disseminate all the

00:01:17 information, there was not one anti-Semite that was exposed as being a monster in the Epstein

00:01:25 files. Many neocons, many liberals, many Democrats, many Republicans, not one anti-Semite, right? You

00:01:34 can just mark that off the list. Neo-Nazis, as far as we know, not one of them is committing

00:01:41 crimes trafficking underage girls uh participating in satanic rituals uh that's that's not on the

00:01:50 list so we can talk about the neo-nazis we can talk about playing footsies with the people on

00:01:55 the far right we can talk about the dangers of white supremacy but i'll i'll go on record and say 0.86

00:02:00 being frank i'm concerned about jewish supremacy because the epstein files reek of that white

00:02:09 supremacy? Nowhere to be found. Jewish supremacy, that non-Jewish whites are cattle? The goyim,

00:02:18 right? Imagine right now your 77-year-old Zionist evangelical grandma, and she's on Google, 0.95

00:02:26 you know, like, what is the goyim? What is goyim? A lot of people really are waking up and seeing, 0.97

00:02:33 wait, you're saying that these groups of individuals are controlling markets and would 0.96

00:02:38 even artificially manipulate a market crash that affects the goyim non-Jewish whites with their 0.85

00:02:45 slave wage jobs nine to five while a few elite individuals get rich. And again, just to make it 0.96

00:02:54 clear, we're not saying every Jew is involved in this. We're not saying that in the same way that

00:03:00 not every white person is a raging liberal and not every white person is, you know, far, far,

00:03:07 far right, but what we are saying is that disproportionately, according to these files,

00:03:13 it seems as though Epstein and other elite Jewish billionaires, not just in Israel, it's not just

00:03:20 Netanyahu, it's not just the Israeli government, but Jews here in America and around the world,

00:03:26 not all of them, but elite billionaires, rich Jewish people, had this sentiment of, 0.87

00:03:34 the non-Jewish whites exist for us. And it's okay to artificially manipulate markets and 0.99

00:03:44 interest and these kinds of things that affect them in negative ways, but makes us rich. That

00:03:50 was clear. And so what I want to do in this interview with Dr. Kevin MacDonald is get down

00:03:56 to the bottom of it, not just the latest revelations of the Epstein files, but getting to

00:04:01 the underpinnings. What is Jewish supremacy? What is this idea of an elite few that have a high 0.63

00:04:13 in-group preference that would manipulate things in such a way that it affects negatively other

00:04:21 nations, other peoples? What's going on here? What is Jewish supremacy? What is world Jewry?

00:04:31 Is there any merit to these terms? 0.91

00:04:34 And I think in light of the latest revelations over the weekend with the Epstein Files,

00:04:38 there are more people right now who are willing to ask these questions likely than ever before. 0.62

00:04:44 And so if you're wanting to understand these things, Jewish supremacy, right, world Jewry,

00:04:50 what's going on? How does it affect me? What should I do in light of it?

00:04:55 How can I understand these concepts historically and see the patterns underneath?

00:05:01 then this is a fascinating interview that will help you tremendously so stay tuned and we'll get

00:05:09 right into it at the foot of mount sinai a nation met its god in thunder and fire

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00:06:18 So I'm joined today by Dr. Kevin MacDonald.

00:06:42 He's written The Culture of Critique, which is a massive book that outlines a lot of Jewish influence throughout history and the way that it has affected society.

00:06:53 And today we wanted to focus our attention predominantly as it pertains to Jewish influence over the years, especially here in the United States, but even historically in other countries as it pertains to immigration.

00:07:05 This is certainly a relevant topic, and what we're seeing going on in Minnesota with ICE

00:07:11 on the ground and the massive protests against ICE, we know that the left very much wants

00:07:17 immigration to continue.

00:07:19 They want it to continue in mass, and there's a number of reasons for that incentive.

00:07:25 But behind this, or at least historically, what got us to this point, not entirely, but 0.90

00:07:32 in many ways has been Jewish influence. So Dr. Kevin MacDonald, welcome to the show. 0.85

00:07:39 Let's begin. Can you explain to the listeners from your book, from your thoughts and your

00:07:44 extensive research, why is it historically, maybe outlining, but then also giving some

00:07:50 of the incentives, the motive, why is it that Jews have historically pushed so hard to be

00:07:56 pro-immigration. Yeah, it's certainly true. And, you know, as I was reading Jewish history and 1.00

00:08:04 everything, I, in a way, I really, it really opened my eyes to see what Jews had done on

00:08:14 immigration. I'm an evolutionary biologist. And to me, the demographic constitution of the country 0.98

00:08:21 is extremely important, and so the reality is that Jews have always, going back to the early

00:08:30 20th century, have championed open immigration. In fact, the American public opinion was against

00:08:41 immigration from about 1905.

00:08:44 But Jews very actively fought the literacy test and so on.

00:08:52 And they finally passed the literacy test, but it was ineffective.

00:08:56 So finally, the forces of restriction simply said, we're going to cut the numbers way down.

00:09:04 And we're going to bias it towards Northwest Europe.

00:09:07 Well, that was horrifying to Jewish activists.

00:09:11 But in 1924, you know, they passed the 1924 immigration law, and that biased immigration had lowered the numbers dramatically, and it biased immigration towards Northwest Europe.

00:09:25 Well, most Jews were from Eastern Europe, and so they did not fall into that category, and they took it personally.

00:09:33 So there's a huge chip on their shoulder, you know, ever since.

00:09:37 And any Jewish person who's educated would be aware of this, that the 1924 immigration law was directed against them.

00:09:47 And to a certain extent, it was.

00:09:49 I mean, there were also other immigrants, Italians and Poles and so on.

00:09:53 But I think that what really got the public going with Jewish immigrants, because at that time, they were very different. 0.76

00:10:00 I mean, these were Orthodox Jews. 1.00

00:10:02 They looked different. 1.00

00:10:03 They, you know, they were very insular.

00:10:08 They walled themselves off from everyone else.

00:10:11 And they tend to be radical, you know, political radicals.

00:10:15 And this was around the time of the Bosford Revolution.

00:10:20 And people were hearing stories about how violent that was and how Jews were very much involved in the Bosford Revolution and the aftermath of the revolution.

00:10:31 revolution and um you know they they finally said no and so 1924 they enacted the law

00:10:38 and uh this was a watershed event in american history it really slowed immigration way down

00:10:45 and of course then you had the great depression and that would have slowed it down anyway

00:10:49 but um jews essentially were cut out of the political process involved in immigration

00:10:57 And in 1952, that act, the 1924 Immigration Act, was essentially reinstated.

00:11:07 It was updated, and it didn't really change the substance of it.

00:11:12 And it passed over Harry Truman's veto in 1952.

00:11:17 So Jewish activists were always involved on this.

00:11:23 They were the ones that were funding the committees. They were funding the lobbyists. They were writing the op-eds. And so the entire point was to open the gates. And they finally did it in 1965. 0.86

00:11:44 So it was a long time coming, but they were by far, really, you can't point to any other group that was really important.

00:11:54 It wasn't like capitalists were, you know, clamoring for more immigration.

00:12:00 Certainly labor unions didn't want it.

00:12:03 And so when you look at who was active and how and why, it was Jewish activism.

00:12:14 And as far as why, Jews, you know, as I say, had a huge ship on their shoulder for the 1924 immigration law.

00:12:23 But they also had a general animosity, especially after World War II, because you had the rise of National Socialism in Germany.

00:12:33 And what happened there, of course, was they were very focused on Jews.

00:12:38 And as a result, Jews had the view that it was dangerous for Jews to be a minority in a homogeneously white Christian country. 0.50

00:12:55 And, you know, they have a long memory.

00:12:59 You know, when they think about the history of Jews in the West, they start out with the Roman Empire.

00:13:05 and the destruction of the Second Temple. 0.62

00:13:11 And then they go to persecutions in the late Roman Empire.

00:13:15 And then they go to the Middle Ages,

00:13:17 where they were expelled from so many countries

00:13:19 and kingdoms in Western Europe.

00:13:23 And then they go to the modern era,

00:13:25 where in Russia there were pogroms in the 19th century.

00:13:29 And then you had the rise of national socialism in Germany.

00:13:34 And so there you are.

00:13:35 You know, I mean, they they had the idea that European civilization will sooner or later rise up against it.

00:13:44 And so the solution that they came up with was immigration of all these other groups. 0.85

00:13:49 If Jews were just one of many groups, they would not be they would not stand out as much. 0.58

00:13:56 And they again, they had this hatred towards the white majority.

00:14:00 When they see a white majority, even though, you know, America fought against Germany in World War II, they think of white people as potential Nazis and that they will sooner or later rise up against them.

00:14:19 So I got a lot of quotes to that effect, that they don't feel safe in a homogeneous white country, a Christian country.

00:14:29 Again, Christian religion started out as a very anti-Jewish ideology, really.

00:14:38 I mean, Jews killed Christ, for example, and you had Jews in the late Roman Empire who owned Christian slaves, and this really angered non-Jews and, you know, Constantine with the church.

00:14:58 I have a chapter on that and my second book on Jews, The Separation of Discontents, on anti-Semitism, huge anti-Semitism in the late Roman Empire. 0.57

00:15:07 It revolved around Jews enslaving non-Jews. 0.64

00:15:11 And again, you know, Jews act as if they, you know, would never be involved in slavery. 0.85

00:15:21 But the fact is they have been deeply involved in slavery from, you know, in biblical times you see slavery and Jews were involved in slave trading and so on. 0.52

00:15:35 Real quick, Dr. McDonald, could you take just a moment, you said, you know, in some of these European countries, you were explaining, you know, Jews and their involvement in slavery, you know, and even possessing, you know, Christians as slaves and this angering, you know, whether it be Constantine or some of these, you know, I think of the Catholic monarchs, you know, in European countries that developed, and you used the word, developed, you know, anti-Semitism, an anti-Semitic sentiment.

00:16:03 just for the listener and for myself. I'm curious because a lot of people, if we ask the ADL,

00:16:09 what is anti-Semitism? They would say the slightest critique against Benjamin Netanyahu.

00:16:14 You know, so if you could define your terms, how would you define, historically speaking,

00:16:20 anti-Semitism? And then a further follow-up question, after defining anti-Semitism,

00:16:26 the historic anti-Semitism of these Western Christian European countries in their disposition

00:16:32 towards the jews would you say that that anti-semitism that they modeled the christian

00:16:37 european white countries modeled would you say that it's that anti-semitism is inherently immoral 0.60

00:16:43 or would you say that some of them did bad things with the anti-semitism and some of them did

00:16:49 just things justifiable things but that it's not inherently immoral i'm just curious your point

00:16:56 of view yeah well anti-semitism is uh dislike hatred towards jews because of they are jewish

00:17:05 um and i have to you know really refine that because you don't want to say you know when

00:17:14 you talk about jews i mean say you choose as radicals very common you know early in the 20th

00:17:20 century, really going up, and Jews are still on the left in America, but you can't ever say that

00:17:26 all Jews, you know, so you have to talk about particular Jews, particular Jewish organizations,

00:17:32 you have to look where the power of the Jewish community is at any particular time, 0.91

00:17:37 and, you know, in my case, I see Jewish power as directed against my interests as an America, 0.89

00:17:46 as a white American, but I have to qualify that. 0.74

00:17:52 I have to talk about which aspects of the Jewish community, you know,

00:17:56 the ADL, for example, is totally on board with all the Jewish programs,

00:18:03 but not all Jews are sympathetic to the ADL. 0.66

00:18:06 You talk about the Israel lobby, and certainly I resent the fact

00:18:12 that we've fought these several wars for Israel in the Middle East,

00:18:16 You know, lost a lot of lives, cost a lot of money, horribly wounded servicemen coming back.

00:18:24 And the Israel lobby has promoted these wars. 0.55

00:18:29 And so Israel lobby is very powerful in Washington, D.C.

00:18:34 And so you see I have a chapter on the neoconservatives as championing these wars.

00:18:42 So I'm against that.

00:18:44 So you want to call me an anti-Semite?

00:18:46 fine, but be very clear what I am saying. I'm saying that I oppose certain things that the 0.98

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00:22:06 I mean, there are Jews who are opposed to what Israel is doing.

00:22:11 You know, there's Jewish Voice for Peace.

00:22:14 There's Mondeweiss.

00:22:15 I mean, these people are very Jewish. 0.83

00:22:18 At the same time, they do not like what Israel has done over there.

00:22:22 And they are very, extremely critical of Israel.

00:22:26 But, you know, so they don't have the power. 0.69

00:22:30 Obviously, the power is with the Israel lobby and the funding of politicians in America, the propaganda, the media power, all comes from the mainstream Jewish community. 0.83

00:22:46 Another question that I had, so that makes a lot of sense and it's helpful.

00:22:50 uh but you you know you've uh a few times now you know predominantly described jews in america as

00:22:57 being politically on the left and from you know some of my study i think that's undeniable i you

00:23:04 know that doesn't mean every jew is on the left but in terms of the influence the mainstream the

00:23:08 consensus the power that's what we're describing and you're right however i i wanted to to get your

00:23:16 thoughts on i think that that's historically true for america and jewish influence in america it's

00:23:21 been left dominant but it seems as though recently like through the rise of you know the move away

00:23:27 from your paleo conservatives of old your pat buchanan's and kind of the rise of you know

00:23:32 william f buckley and national review and the neo conservatives and that over the last

00:23:39 30 maybe 30 40 years or so at least the last 20 30 years that now it feels as though there's kind

00:23:46 of a split and not just like some dissenting jews on the right but just individuals and not a

00:23:52 collective and not really having much influence uh where all the power is still on the left now

00:23:57 it feels like it's almost like a 50 50 split that there's real you know ngos real lobbyists real

00:24:03 groups, organizations on the left that are pro-LGBT, pro-pornography, pro-immigration,

00:24:10 pro-abortion, but there's almost, it seems, as much influence, Jewish influence on the

00:24:16 right that would side with someone like myself on some of the cultural, moral issues like

00:24:23 abortion, like gay marriage, those kinds of things, but in terms of geopolitics are pushing

00:24:31 for war, you know, and sending America to war.

00:24:34 And so now it feels as though now you actually have two, not just fractured, but two very

00:24:41 organized groups of Jewish influence, both on the left and on the right, that almost

00:24:47 work in tandem with one another. 0.53

00:24:48 The right wages war, displaces people, pushes for regime change, these kinds of things. 0.86

00:24:55 And then the left, Jews on the left, then open the doors, the doors of Toledo, the doors 0.55

00:25:00 of america and and welcome all the refugees here and it's kind of this this one two you know left

00:25:06 right punch what do you think about that yeah i do think that there's an element of truth in that

00:25:14 great element of truth in that i um historically well if you look at voting patterns i mean jews

00:25:21 still voted 70 democrat in the last election presidential election that's important um and so

00:25:28 So in general, the mainstream Jewish community is still on the left, but there's a lot of anti-Semitism on the left now because of Israel.

00:25:36 And I do think that a lot of Jews are bailing out.

00:25:40 And you have people like Stephen Miller in the Trump administration, who's a real conservative, I think.

00:25:45 These neo-conservatives, which is a very important Jewish movement, they have historically been very much in favor of immigration.

00:25:56 You know, and so they opposed the paleo-conservatives, the Pat Buchanans.

00:26:02 They regarded Pat Buchanan as a horrible anti-Semite because he was questioning some of the World War II, you know, Holocaust-related stuff.

00:26:13 And he was very much, you know, an American nationalist.

00:26:19 and he would oppose immigration of all these different groups.

00:26:27 So that's the history of it. 0.54

00:26:30 Right now, I do think that Jews are sort of rethinking immigration from Muslim countries.

00:26:39 They realize they brought in a lot of people that hate them for what they've done in Israel.

00:26:45 I just read

00:26:48 Debra Lipstadt

00:26:50 said that anti-Semitism has changed

00:26:51 it's all Israel related now

00:26:54 they have lost young people

00:26:56 that 0.65

00:26:58 Israel's

00:26:59 actions in Gaza are just

00:27:02 horrifying to people

00:27:03 I just posted a video from Al Jazeera

00:27:06 and it's unbelievable what they have done

00:27:08 you know

00:27:09 just 0.82

00:27:10 war crimes 0.87

00:27:12 you can't even imagine it

00:27:15 So it's something that I think has really changed public perception of Jews.

00:27:22 Jews have always tried to present this image of we're the victims.

00:27:26 The Holocaust is the prime one, but it goes back in history.

00:27:31 We are the victims.

00:27:32 We never do anything bad.

00:27:33 We're the victims of irrational hatred throughout history, and that's the whole story.

00:27:40 But how do you see Jews as victims when you see what happened in Gaza?

00:27:46 You know, they have a long way to go to repair that.

00:27:50 And, you know, the activist Jewish community acts as if nothing happened.

00:27:56 But they know something's happened.

00:27:58 And they are, you know, furiously trying to correct that.

00:28:05 I understand they have

00:28:08 public

00:28:09 ads on TV

00:28:12 now 0.97

00:28:14 promoting Israel 0.72

00:28:17 and their opposition

00:28:20 to anti-Semitism and so on

00:28:21 but you know

00:28:22 the whole anti-Semitism

00:28:24 has been expanded

00:28:27 it used to be that you could critique Israel

00:28:29 and you wouldn't be called an anti-Semite

00:28:31 but now it's pretty much been

00:28:33 completely conflated

00:28:34 If you criticize Israel, you are going to be accused of being an anti-Semite.

00:28:40 And that has lost its sting to a great extent.

00:28:45 I don't think people are concerned about it as much as they used to be.

00:28:49 People like Elon Musk have gotten in trouble by condemning the ADL, saying the ADL is an anti-white organization and that sort of thing.

00:29:00 And it's something that doesn't go away.

00:29:05 I mean, he went to Auschwitz.

00:29:07 He went to Israel, supposedly apologizing and sort of.

00:29:11 But, you know, these things stay.

00:29:15 And it's hard to believe that these young people who are not listening to the New York Times,

00:29:22 they're not reading the New York Times, okay?

00:29:24 They're listening to podcasts.

00:29:26 They're listening to, you know, maybe Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens.

00:29:30 who are now seen as, you know, the worst anti-Semites in America.

00:29:36 I think Tucker Carlson got anti-Semite of the year this year. 1.00

00:29:41 And Candace Owens, you know, she's very down on Israel.

00:29:48 And very much, she's doubted the Holocaust, all kinds of things,

00:29:56 and talked about the USS Liberty,

00:29:58 the disaster when Israel killed over like 134 American sailors,

00:30:03 obviously intentionally.

00:30:07 This is back in 1967.

00:30:09 She brings that up.

00:30:10 Tucker Carlson has brought it up.

00:30:13 You know, the history is so obfuscated, so covered up,

00:30:20 that it's hard to get down to the truth.

00:30:22 But, you know, people like Tucker Carlson are really doing it.

00:30:25 Yeah.

00:30:25 I mean, Tucker Carlson talked about the riots in Minneapolis, and he said the whole point of the leftist resistance here is the great replacement.

00:30:35 They want to replace the white population.

00:30:37 And so they have to resist any attempt to deport people, to prevent immigration, to check voter rolls.

00:30:45 He says 14 states don't have voter ID laws. 0.51

00:30:49 Well, that's open invitation for illegals to vote.

00:30:52 And he's really, he interviewed Daryl Cooper on World War II, saying things that Jewish activists hate to be said.

00:31:06 Winston Churchill was not a hero.

00:31:09 Winston Churchill was this profligate person who's indebted to the Jews all the way and did basically what they wanted him to do.

00:31:18 and so yeah what do you think real quick about winston churchill do you uh you know because

00:31:24 there's a moment where it seems as though he was going to just ride off into the sunset but but in

00:31:29 utter disgrace you know that he was virtually bankrupt and had left the political scene and

00:31:34 then all of a sudden is you know welcome back in and and quite powerful and there's you know 0.85

00:31:40 suspicions and you know people saying that he was funded by jews uh to lead this zionist project is

00:31:47 there you've done the research is there truth in that claim yes and and he actually would have lost

00:31:54 his estate he was sold bankrupt i mean he was totally profligate with money in debt all the

00:32:01 time uh and yet you know living a very high life you know with uh alcohol cigars and all this stuff 0.63

00:32:11 Anyway, yeah, he was bailed out by a Jewish guy named Straykosh, I believe, a wealthy Jew. 0.55

00:32:22 And this happens over and over again. 0.90

00:32:24 Jewish influence, you know, if you want to take it to the absolute bare bones, comes down to money. 0.81

00:32:30 Whether it's the Israel lobby, buying off politicians, funding the opponents of politicians they don't like. 0.76

00:32:38 If it's Winston Churchill getting bailed out by Jewish millionaires, looking at all these NGOs that fund immigration, that, you know, reward people who are on their side in terms of immigration, multiculturalism, and all that. 0.73

00:32:57 So, you know, speaking about my chapter in the 1950s, Jews would establish these committees and they would be made up mainly of non-Jews who were sympathetic. 0.75

00:33:08 And they wanted to have prominent non-Jews, people who would have a reputation that other non-Jews would listen to. 0.50

00:33:15 And so they had JFK, future president, to put his name on a book called, anyways, a pro-immigration book, which was actually written by the ADL, the ADL-paid ghostwriter. 0.56

00:33:35 They paid a name Feldman, and then they paid a historian, and they got JFK to put his name on this book, and Hubert Humphrey, same way.

00:33:49 These are very prominent politicians.

00:33:51 People listen to them.

00:33:53 By 1965, when they passed that horrible law that basically transformed the country to beyond, can't even recognize it anymore.

00:34:02 by the time that happened it was like a political consensus it was a done deal and there was no way

00:34:12 to oppose it at that point and johnson was in office uh you know hold the whole great society

00:34:20 program uh you know liberalism uh and um civil rights all those things were coming in

00:34:27 and jewish activists were all deeply involved in the civil rights movement and

00:34:33 very much in favor of those laws and but what we're mainly concerned about is immigration

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00:35:56 possible you know skipping forward to today ice minnesota the things that are going on there

00:36:02 um what what what is the jewish influence that you see today that's causing these things 0.87

00:36:11 Well, I think now Jews, to some extent, it's not autopilot. 0.99

00:36:16 You still have, you know, these NGOs, people like George Soros paradigmatically funding. 0.71

00:36:25 And a lot of these protests that you see on the left are funded.

00:36:30 And they are very organized and all of that.

00:36:35 But, you know, the Jewish, you know, you've got, you know, 60,000 or something like that Somalis in Minneapolis.

00:36:44 They're going to be in favor of immigration.

00:36:46 The people they brought in, by and large, for the left. 0.63

00:36:50 Right.

00:36:50 And so that, in a sense, it's on autopilot, and they are sort of in the background a little bit.

00:36:58 I mean, Jacob Pryor, the mayor of Minneapolis, is Jewish, and he's very strongly Jewish.

00:37:02 We had an article on that.

00:37:05 an Occidental Observer.

00:37:07 And so, yeah, they're still involved,

00:37:11 and they're still very much in favor of all those things.

00:37:14 The ADL still, you know, pushing it. 0.71

00:37:18 The NGOs that are funded typically by Jews 0.73

00:37:23 are very much involved in it.

00:37:26 But, you know, you bring in 40 million people,

00:37:31 a lot of them Latinos and so on,

00:37:33 And they're going to basically go for, you know, the pro-immigration kind of line.

00:37:42 Not always, but, you know, and I think Trump did some inroads in that.

00:37:47 But essentially, the plan has been, again, Jews after World War II especially,

00:37:57 were very afraid of a homogeneous white society, which it was at that time. 0.69

00:38:03 Even though you had 10% blacks or something, they had no political power. 0.83

00:38:08 It was a white country, completely. 0.94

00:38:12 And this was not something that they wanted. 0.89

00:38:17 And so they pushed it and pushed it.

00:38:20 And, of course, you have all these high ideals that were all the same,

00:38:26 that people from Africa will be just great citizens and all that.

00:38:34 And, of course, what we have is a competing maelstrom

00:38:41 of competing ethnic groups now. 0.92

00:38:44 And so multiculturalism really has not worked anywhere.

00:38:50 It produces conflicts between the different groups.

00:38:58 And, you know, I'm saying good things about Tucker Carlson, but Tucker Carlson is opposed to any kind of white identity. 0.90

00:39:06 Correct. 0.67

00:39:06 And the reality is we have to have a white identity because we are competing in a multicultural, multi-ethnic environment where whites are going to be a minority within our lifetimes, perhaps. 0.72

00:39:25 Maybe yours is not mine. 0.67

00:39:27 But anyway, you know, the reality is that whites have to organize. 0.84

00:39:36 They have to organize as whites and try to advance their interests. 0.95

00:39:40 This, of course, is what Jews have done forever. 1.00

00:39:43 And it's sort of pie in the sky to think that these different ethnic groups 1.00

00:39:47 are going to suddenly forget about their ethnicity. 0.98

00:39:50 They're going to all become Christians and not care about any of that stuff. 0.98

00:39:55 It's just not true. 0.99

00:39:57 And it's sort of pathetic to see a major voice like that talking those terms. 0.92

00:40:05 What do you think it is about those of European descent, white Christians, especially here in America, but also in Europe? 0.95

00:40:15 It seems to be the same sentiment.

00:40:16 What do you think it is about white people that has made us so particularly susceptible? 0.52

00:40:21 Because at some point, you know, like there is a moral culpability of one degree for the one who deceives.

00:40:29 And although the degree is lesser, there's still some degree of moral culpability for the one who is deceived.

00:40:37 Like you can't.

00:40:37 That's right. 0.81

00:40:38 And so what is it about white people that makes us so gullible? 0.83

00:40:43 Well, that's my other book.

00:40:45 we would orchestrate our own demise i wrote a book called individualism in the western liberal

00:40:51 tradition 2019 it's on amazon and um it's the essential idea is that western europeans

00:41:01 have a deep evolutionary history uh of individualism we we have not had this sort

00:41:09 of kinship-based societies that are truer than the rest of the world.

00:41:14 And I'm not the only person believing that.

00:41:17 I mean, Joseph Henrich, a Harvard evolutionary psychologist,

00:41:22 has a book out called The Weirdest People in the World.

00:41:29 Weirdest is an acronym for Western, industrialized, rich, educated, and so on.

00:41:37 And the idea is that we are unique in all the cultures of the world intending towards individuals.

00:41:46 And that means we don't coalesce into groups very easily.

00:41:49 We can, and that certainly happened in Germany in the 1930s. 0.99

00:41:55 But in general, we tend not to, you know, we see a Jewish pornographer or a Jewish sex molester or rapist or something. 0.99

00:42:05 We don't generalize that to all Jews. We don't think in group terms very easily. And so we're more about individual self-development. And individual has been very good for the West. This is what made the West dominant throughout the world. 0.99

00:42:29 It produced the Industrial Revolution, all the science and technology.

00:42:35 You can't have science from a group standpoint. 1.00

00:42:40 And that's what Jews have always done. 1.00

00:42:41 That's the whole point of my book, The Cultural Critique, 1.00

00:42:44 that these Jewish movements regard as science as part of their group strategy, 0.95

00:42:49 their group interests.

00:42:51 That Franz Boas, say, saw the question of race in terms of,

00:42:58 Is it good for the Jews?

00:43:00 And you can't see science that way. 0.98

00:43:03 But science has always been individualistic.

00:43:05 That means you can defect from any scientific movement that you think is wrong.

00:43:11 You know, show me the evidence.

00:43:13 And so that's been the case throughout history.

00:43:15 But, you know, more and more as the left, multicultural left gets power, they see science as something that should be in the interest of particular groups. 0.96

00:43:28 And so, you know, any kind of race science is off the table now, because blacks, you know, you don't like the idea that blacks have a lower IQ, that they're prone to criminality, and that they're just not succeeding in Western societies. 0.88

00:43:44 And same in Europe. 0.92

00:43:48 So I trace the history of individualism and how it played out.

00:43:54 and essentially there's a sort of gradual what I call climb

00:44:00 between the southern Europeans and the northwest Europeans

00:44:04 where southeastern Europeans are much more collectivist.

00:44:10 You know, you have brothers living together with their families

00:44:14 and, you know, whereas in the northwest Europe, it's all individual

00:44:19 and you had to be economically viable in order to get married.

00:44:24 And you had these nuclear families going way back. 0.68

00:44:27 They can't even trace where the origins are.

00:44:29 But in the Middle East and Eastern Europe, those families don't exist.

00:44:35 They're not the norm historically.

00:44:39 Even in southern France, you see that.

00:44:41 So the point is that when you get up towards Scandinavia, you have total individualism.

00:44:49 Family ties are weak.

00:44:51 And kinship is weak.

00:44:54 And these people are the most liberal people in the world.

00:45:00 From some of what I've recently read and discovered,

00:45:05 it seems as though Minnesota was originally,

00:45:07 or at least at some point in its history,

00:45:10 heavily populated and settled by Scandinavians.

00:45:15 That's right.

00:45:15 Which might be part of what has made all of the West,

00:45:19 and America in particular, 1.00

00:45:20 has been you know specifically you know susceptible to um to jewish influence and and exploiting the 0.69

00:45:29 individualistic mindset of westerners to be accommodating to anyone and everyone but minnesota

00:45:35 especially even the you know the the coined phrase that we use to describe minnesotans you know

00:45:40 minnesota nice right they're just they're really really nice and i think for too nice that's

00:45:48 absolutely right and so but for us to recognize that okay you know where did this come from you

00:45:54 know well it came from a particular people the scandinavians who were as you're describing

00:46:01 uniquely individualistic in their mindset and for us to draw that correlation and recognize

00:46:07 there's something there yeah absolutely they are very much prone to individualism and

00:46:15 now they're beset. They've

00:46:18 admitted all these Middle Eastern peoples 0.99

00:46:20 and all of a sudden, oh, there's

00:46:22 these gangs, you know,

00:46:24 these ethnically based gangs in

00:46:27 Sweden. And they're blowing up

00:46:29 things, they're running drugs, they're doing all

00:46:31 these terrible things. 1.00

00:46:33 And the Swedes are 0.98

00:46:34 sort of powerless 0.99

00:46:36 against it because they just

00:46:39 you know, they

00:46:40 tend not to see

00:46:42 this

00:46:43 It's very hard to get them on page with a mass movement of, you know, the anti-immigration, the re-migration and all that.

00:46:56 You can get a few Swedes on board, but they tend to be very much in favor of immigration and everything.

00:47:07 And, you know, the thing about about Western societies that is really telling is, you know, when you don't have kinship to bind the community together, if you go to the Middle Eastern societies, kinship is the name of the game.

00:47:23 And that includes Jewish societies traditionally, very much based on kinship. 0.69

00:47:29 And you look at these Orthodox Jewish groups and it's still that way.

00:47:31 um but the in the middle east that was the norm and and where you were in the kinship was what

00:47:42 mattered well in western europe that was not the case individualism uh you know every person had

00:47:48 his own farm you had communities sort of living together uh with neighbors and friends not kin

00:47:54 And so kin was de-emphasized throughout European history.

00:47:59 But kinship is a powerful force for cohesion in a community.

00:48:05 So without that, what the Europeans,

00:48:07 Western Europeans have done is make moral,

00:48:11 what I call moral communities. 0.74

00:48:13 That is communities where you have some kind of moral strictures

00:48:19 that if you violate them, you are out of the community.

00:48:22 And you go back to the, you know, the sagas, the Iceland, you know, the sagas of the Norse, and very much the case.

00:48:34 And, of course, in evolutionary terms, if you were not part of the community, you were dead.

00:48:40 You know, you were basically had no place to go.

00:48:43 So these communities were based not on kinship, but on adhering to the moral norms.

00:48:49 Well, who creates the moral norms now in our society? Mass media and academics. And so the moral norms we have now are, in a word, anti-white.

00:49:04 And they, you know, they're pro-immigration, anti-racist, all these kinds of things that are manufactured by elites in the media that are able to create culture. 0.72

00:49:19 So, you know, in my view, evolution has shifted to the cultural realm completely.

00:49:26 Well, not even say completely, but that's the main thing that's going on.

00:49:31 And so if you cannot control your culture, you are going to lose in the evolutionary game.

00:49:37 And that's really what's happened here.

00:49:39 We lost control of our culture.

00:49:41 And so what has dominated our culture has been these ideas that, you know, whites have a historically uniquely evil history of slavery and colonialism and that sort of thing, which is false.

00:50:00 I mean, slavery was the norm throughout history.

00:50:03 Jewish slave traders were a big part of European history.

00:50:08 And certainly in the New World, and especially in South America, Jewish slave traders were huge. 0.99

00:50:14 But nobody ever blames them. 0.98

00:50:16 You know, it's manufactured against white people.

00:50:20 White people were the only people to abolish slavery. 0.59

00:50:24 And they did it for moral reasons.

00:50:26 I have a chapter on that in my book on individualism.

00:50:28 Because it's fascinating to see what was going on in the 19th century, the late 18th century, where, especially Christian, it was seen in Christian terms that these people are children of God, and they shouldn't be enslaved, and they would emphasize the cruelty of slavery and all that.

00:50:49 And it was, you know, there was still a big economic interest in white slavery, but there was a huge upsurge of popular condemnation of it, led by the Quakers in England, led by the Puritans in America.

00:51:03 Puritans were the anti-slavery faction, and they were the ones that, you know, really promoted, you know, the abolitionist side in the Civil War.

00:51:15 And so I have a lot on the Puritans for that reason.

00:51:19 You know, you see these moral communities that get established.

00:51:24 And to get outside that moral community is to sort of isolate yourself from the community.

00:51:31 And you put yourself in grave danger, really.

00:51:35 You know, if you're a pro-slavery person in an abolitionist society, you know, you're going to have problems in the reverse as well.

00:51:49 So these moral communities are the sort of key to understanding the West. 0.69

00:51:54 And the problem is, as I said, the problem now is that the people who create the culture, who create these moral communities, are anti-white. 0.66

00:52:05 They have big positions in the media, big positions in the culture in general, and the academic culture.

00:52:15 Academic culture is very important.

00:52:17 And so I have a new section in the revised edition of Culture of Critique on the rise of Jews in the academic world.

00:52:23 very important because in the 1960s, especially, Jews became part of the establishment in the

00:52:33 academic world, in Ivy League universities. And, you know, universities are top-down institutions. 0.88

00:52:40 You know, the Ivy League institutions give PhDs and their students go to University of California,

00:52:47 University of Wisconsin, Michigan, and then their students go to lower level universities

00:52:52 and finally now in the K-12 education.

00:52:56 So it's very much a top-down situation.

00:52:59 And all these changes, all the cultural changes that I talk about 0.97

00:53:03 is the result of the rise of the Jewish elite in America.

00:53:08 They were not in charge of the 1920s. 0.69

00:53:10 That's why they lost the immigration battle.

00:53:13 But by the 1960s, they had a big position in culture.

00:53:17 And that was reflected in Jewish professors in universities

00:53:22 who tend to be on the left compared to the old academic establishment

00:53:26 and often radical.

00:53:29 And then we had, you know, student protests in the 1960s

00:53:34 that I lived through, unfortunately.

00:53:38 But that's the history of it.

00:53:40 And the people, these cultural changes have been top-down,

00:53:48 coming from elites.

00:53:49 They have not been bottom-up.

00:53:51 people at the bottom

00:53:54 have not been able to influence

00:53:56 culture much at all

00:53:58 and they're still not able to

00:53:59 and I think that's why

00:54:01 I have a little section I put in at the end

00:54:04 I do have some hope

00:54:05 that again I think money

00:54:08 is the key

00:54:09 but you have people like Elon Musk

00:54:11 who may be a trillionaire soon

00:54:13 I mean they're going to have an IPO

00:54:15 for SpaceX this year

00:54:17 that's going to be huge

00:54:19 And he's already got the richest guy in the world.

00:54:23 And he's not on page with this immigration multiculturalism stuff.

00:54:31 And, you know, they haven't – when you have that much money, you can change things.

00:54:36 And you can really have influence.

00:54:39 And I think – so people like him. 0.72

00:54:41 There are a lot of non-Jewish money out there.

00:54:43 And, you know, you look at Trump's contributors prior to Elon Musk getting involved, about the tune of almost $300 million in the last campaign.

00:54:55 That's huge, $300 million. 0.66

00:54:57 But other non-Jewish white people were contributing as well.

00:55:02 Unfortunately, he had Miriam Adelson voting up on $100 million, and that seems to really impress Trump.

00:55:07 So Trump is slavishly pro-Israel, and disgustingly so.

00:55:13 But anyway, money talks in a democracy like ours.

00:55:19 And I think it's part of the individualistic political culture that we have. 0.88

00:55:25 So these, you know, politicians are oftentimes basically sociopaths.

00:55:30 You know, they're going to go wherever the money is to get reelected.

00:55:34 Power and money.

00:55:36 And that's what it is.

00:55:38 On both sides of the aisle, by the way.

00:55:41 Right.

00:55:42 Right. Yeah, I was going to ask you here at the very end, just maybe a final word, but it seems as though you already began to bring that up. But I was going to ask you in terms of hope, do you have any hope? Because in so many ways, it feels as though we're already very far gone.

00:56:01 um but i you know it's something that we've spoken about uh with yeah um our media organization

00:56:09 nxr studios uh but just talking about the the reality is you know a lot of times christians

00:56:16 you know i'm i'm a christian and we're a christian um media company but christians often think in

00:56:23 terms of individualism and grassroots bottom up um you know christians especially protestants of

00:56:30 which i'm i'm one of them um but they you know they think of if you are to change the world or

00:56:36 change a nation or change the culture it's going to be um and you know the the um the coliseum of

00:56:44 ideas it's going to be you know persuasion compelling um you know changing hearts and

00:56:50 minds one at a time uh but i you know and i and i think i just kind of by default believe that for

00:56:58 probably the majority of my life wouldn't have even necessarily been able to articulate it but

00:57:03 it's it was just subconsciously always there until really recently just in the last couple years

00:57:10 where as i've started to understand more history and even more christian history whether it be

00:57:16 constantine or king alfred or you know this individual or that individual seeing that

00:57:20 even when it comes to the concept of revival um you know even just studying the old testament

00:57:26 It's very rare that, you know, the people of Israel under the old covenant and the old covenant, that they all, you know, got together and, you know, the young and the old, the rich and the poor and said, you know what, we just, we have not been behaving ourselves lately and we feel really guilty about that.

00:57:44 And we've decided collectively that we just, we want to repent, each one of us, you know, repent of our sins and turn to Yahweh and serve him faithfully.

00:57:55 no what typically happened is the people are idolatrous they've gone after you know there's

00:58:02 been invasion and you know they've they've hoarded them for themselves um pagan gods from foreign

00:58:09 peoples uh but god raises up an individual whether it's one of the judges you know gideon or samson

00:58:15 you know or whether it's one of the kings thinking of josiah you know or hezekiah or this individual

00:58:21 or that. And this top down, you know, individual with power, real power, position, title, wealth,

00:58:29 influence, authority, he comes in and doesn't really care so much what the people think. He

00:58:37 comes in with zeal and true conviction. He's not just, you know, a politician who just goes

00:58:44 wherever the winds might happen to be blowing, but instead he comes with a genuine conviction 0.98

00:58:49 that Israel is going to serve the Lord, and he begins to knock down and destroy all the high 0.83

00:58:55 places and the altars and the temples to the Baals and the Asherah poles and these, and against, 0.94

00:59:01 actually, that's my point, is against the grassroots, against the people. He says,

00:59:06 I know you actually don't like this, but I'm sorry, but the idol worship will stop.

00:59:14 And then what happens over time is that eventually, you know, as he puts in new laws against blasphemy or new laws in terms of fidelity to, you know, the true God of Israel, the people's hearts eventually follow suit.

00:59:29 And, you know, we're fond of saying, you know, that politics is downstream of culture, but there's a real sense, that's true, but there's a real sense in which it's equally true, if not even perhaps more true, that culture is downstream of politics.

00:59:46 You see the shift culturally when it comes to the issue of gay marriage, and then you get a

00:59:51 Bergerfell. But in the same breath, we can say that once you got a Bergerfell, the dam breaks 0.87

00:59:56 and the culture becomes even more pro-gay, immensely, exponentially more. And so I agree 1.00

01:00:04 with you, long way of saying, I agree with you that as a Christian minister, I think that God

01:00:10 could send revival. And I think that we should continue to speak to the people that we love,

01:00:15 especially our families and our neighbors, and seek to persuade and seek to compel in positive

01:00:22 ways. But if history, you know, it doesn't always repeat, but it rhymes. And if history is any

01:00:29 indicator, even biblical history, Christian history, Christodom, you know, these kinds of

01:00:33 world history, there is a much more higher likelihood, if we had to guess, if things

01:00:42 change how they might change there's a far greater likelihood that it would not be grassroots bottom

01:00:48 up but it would be um a relatively small number of elites with significant influence power and wealth

01:00:57 that uh that make these changes and then the masses eventually follow is it sounds like that's

01:01:05 what you're saying and and if so i agree any final word on that yeah i do think that that

01:01:12 there is a way forward

01:01:14 and things

01:01:16 are very bad for us

01:01:18 now, bad

01:01:20 for Western European countries

01:01:22 it's interesting that

01:01:24 Eastern European countries are standing up

01:01:26 against this

01:01:27 and that's sort of what

01:01:30 we'd expect, that they're less individualistic

01:01:32 by far

01:01:32 but I do think

01:01:36 that

01:01:36 ultimately

01:01:39 we have to be able to

01:01:42 to create our own moral communities and be able to have influence.

01:01:50 It is, you know, one of the things I was just reading today,

01:01:54 classic anti-Semitism is to say Jews control the media.

01:01:58 Well, you know, in my revised edition, once again, 0.77

01:02:02 I go through Jewish ownership of the media. 0.81

01:02:05 And I didn't even get to Larry Ellison buying up Paramount, CBS,

01:02:11 and sawing a rabidly pro-Israel Barry Weiss. 0.96

01:02:16 You know, so the Jews have a huge presence in the media. 0.63

01:02:20 I worry about that.

01:02:22 But still, and, you know, again, the top-down thing,

01:02:29 and now he's got TikTok, apparently.

01:02:31 Yes.

01:02:31 And that is something that young people like.

01:02:34 Well, they're definitely going to, you know, 0.80

01:02:38 They're going to censor things that Jews don't like on TikTok. 0.93

01:02:48 And that's just the reality. 1.00

01:02:51 So I'm hopeful, though. 1.00

01:02:55 Again, people like Elon Musk, and there's a lot of other non-Jews who have a lot of money. 1.00

01:03:00 We have to push back. 1.00

01:03:03 And to the extent we can, get our word out.

01:03:08 And again, it's been very useful, I think. 0.96

01:03:11 What Israelis did in Gaza is really helping people see that Jews are not the paragon's virtue that you think that they want you to think they are. 1.00

01:03:22 That there's something extremely evil in the Jewish mindset. 0.94

01:03:28 And if you look at, I just put a video online from Al Jazeera showing what the Israeli army did in Gaza, and it's just unbelievable. 1.00

01:03:40 The evil, these people are not paragons of virtue.

01:03:47 And we have to understand that and advance our own interests.

01:03:55 Yep, I agree.

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01:04:43 where our mouth is.

01:04:45 We have to subscribe to things that are on page

01:04:49 and try to support that

01:04:53 because we are in very serious, grave condition, all hands on deck.

01:05:00 Everybody has to do what they can.

01:05:03 People have to say to themselves, what can I do?

01:05:05 I don't like to write.

01:05:07 I'm not good at that.

01:05:10 I'm not wealthy.

01:05:11 Well, find something you can do.

01:05:13 Set up an email list or something, anything.

01:05:18 Get involved with your local people,

01:05:21 because there are people on board.

01:05:23 Now, I moved up to northern Idaho,

01:05:27 and there's just a lot of people up there

01:05:29 that are on board with ideas like mine,

01:05:32 and we have a real community up there.

01:05:35 I know a lot of people,

01:05:36 and I had a feeling that these people would have my back

01:05:39 if something terrible happened.

01:05:42 If the Antifa somehow got a toehold up there,

01:05:44 which they won't,

01:05:46 and started going after me or other people up there,

01:05:49 we would

01:05:51 we are a community and we understand

01:05:53 the need to sort of bind together

01:05:55 and

01:05:56 so that's important

01:05:58 to be part, think of what you can do

01:06:01 personally to get involved

01:06:03 if only just

01:06:04 to be part of a community is a great thing

01:06:07 and it feels good

01:06:08 because you feel like you're on board with

01:06:11 people, you know

01:06:12 we talked about moral communities, well

01:06:14 we have a moral community in a sense

01:06:16 We have a sense of what is moral, what is right.

01:06:23 We feel white people have been being hated. 0.52

01:06:28 And so we band together on that basis to a great extent.

01:06:34 So anyway, that's my pitch.

01:06:37 Oxfam Observer, Oxfam Quarterly.

01:06:40 We have to keep working hard and don't give up.

01:06:45 We can turn this around.

01:06:46 Yeah. Amen. Well, Dr. Kevin McDonald, thank you so much for your time and coming on the show. We

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01:11:00 Antonio Griffith a moment to be able to respond to the interview that we all just watched.

01:11:06 When you start looking into reading, researching, listening to the question of Jewish power in

01:11:11 America, it's very easy at the beginning, you can think of the first gulp of the glass, 0.97

01:11:16 that you go a little bit overboard, and you begin to see Jews involved in everything, 0.97

01:11:21 and you can come to the conclusion, maybe you read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, 0.90

01:11:24 well, Jews run the world. They have this secret cabal, and it's like the Illuminati, 0.94

01:11:28 and they're all powerful and in control of everything. Now, most people don't stick with

01:11:32 that ultimately as being the explanation, but what Dr. Kevin MacDonald articulates so well

01:11:37 here in the interview and in his book is there's actually a much more benign explanation. It's

01:11:42 a lot less malicious. You're not attributing to someone inherent malice, inherent desire for the

01:11:47 destruction of European countries. But it's an approach that almost all of us would take if we

01:11:52 were in a similar situation. Jews have been persecuted since the start of Christendom.

01:11:57 Some of it they brought on themselves. Some of it they didn't. Some of it was over the top.

01:12:02 Then they often responded when Jerusalem collapses for the first time. I think it's in the early 0.90

01:12:07 600s, Jews burned churches of the Christians that persecuted them just decades before. And so there's

01:12:13 been this ongoing antagonism between the two groups. And when it comes to our American context

01:12:18 and immigration, and even the elites like Epstein, they're very much so taking a look at the

01:12:22 landscape and saying, it is very much so in our interest, just as a people, to survive if we bring

01:12:29 a lot of people in here. A lot of different minority groups, whether it be from India, whether

01:12:33 it be from South America, whether it be from Eastern Europe. The more people, the more diversity,

01:12:38 the more cultures we have here, the less likely we get picked out and targeted. And they are

01:12:44 absolutely correct in that sense. They're making a rational calculation and saying for the good of

01:12:49 our in-group, for the good of our people, it is best if we promote immigration. And when the

01:12:54 United States had a policy on immigration that prioritized Western European immigration,

01:12:59 that was not what was best for their people. They were kicked out. Dr. McDonald goes into this in

01:13:03 his book, The Elite Universities. There's very much so a type of WASP universalism. It was

01:13:11 universally Protestants, universally Christians, universally Western Europeans. They didn't let 1.00

01:13:16 the Jews in. And so Jews said, it is in our best interest to bring these people in. Now, here's the 1.00

01:13:21 thing that we have to respond with. As Americans, is this in our best interest? Okay, so my family's

01:13:27 been here for 200 years. These people arrived much more recently, and they're looking to be

01:13:32 seeming to shift the ethnic makeup of the nation. And they're doing that explicitly so they don't 0.94

01:13:36 get targeted, so they don't get called out, and they don't get isolated. And what we have to

01:13:40 answer is, is this in our best interest? They're acting in their best interest. You guys talked

01:13:44 about that at the end of the interview. Will we be willing to act in ours? And if we come to the

01:13:49 conclusion, no, mass immigration is not good. It's not good for our jobs. It's not good for the safety 0.99

01:13:53 of our society. It's not good for building a cohesive, patriotic culture that people want

01:13:58 to live in. If that's not good for us, then you have to have the courage to be willing to stand

01:14:02 up and say, I understand where you're coming from, and I get it, and I might even do the same thing

01:14:07 if I was in that boat. But I'm not. And this is destroying the country. And so because it's our

01:14:12 country and our land and our ancestors built it and settled the frontier, we're going to have to

01:14:17 say no. Tens of millions, they have to go back. And in the future, our immigration policy needs 0.61

01:14:22 to mirror what it did in the past, because that produced a prosperous, healthy, safe nation. And

01:14:28 if you don't like that, we don't hate you. We're not trying to be malicious, but you've got to

01:14:33 step aside. You don't get to have the reins of power if you're going to use that power to

01:14:38 disadvantage us and our children at our posterity. Well said. Yeah. One of the reasons conservatives

01:14:43 have continually lost over the last five decades, and everyone's aware of this, is because they've

01:14:49 continually accepted the framing of the left. And so a lot of people use this sort of this trite

01:14:54 phrase of conservatives just defend what liberals pushed for 10 years ago. And one of the reasons

01:15:01 that is, is because conservatives have never really done the work of determining why the

01:15:06 postmodern liberal policies we have today actually emerged and what they're the consequence of. And

01:15:10 I've said this before, but one of the efforts of the new Christian right is to really uncover 0.99

01:15:16 policies from 50 years ago, 60 years ago, that are now serving to the detriment of Americans 0.90

01:15:22 and people who are America first. And that's why some people might criticize this and say,

01:15:27 oh, well, you're going back into the 50s and 60s and evaluating immigration policy as if it has any

01:15:33 real impact today. But the fact of the matter is politics have consequences. And to your point,

01:15:39 Wes, and further to Dr. McDonald's point, politics is fundamentally demographic interest.

01:15:45 Everyone knows this. And so if you have a demographic that's consistently accepting the frame of another demographic, then of course their policies are going to skew, even in opposition, skew in the direction of that demographic. And that's basically the conversation that we're having here.

01:16:00 That's such a great point. You're accepting the frame of another ethnic group. Your ethnic group coming under the framing of another ethnic group. What's good for them? Oh, I guess that's good for us too. Actually, maybe it's not.

01:16:10 And it's good to know that, to your point, these are psychological, rational choices being made by sort of opponents, if you will.

01:16:20 It's things that are explainable in their frame.

01:16:23 They're certainly internally consistent. 0.99

01:16:26 That is the Jews and the Zionists. 0.98

01:16:28 They're internally consistent. 0.58

01:16:29 What they believe about them being an in-group and both their religious and political underpinnings of their worldview, it's no surprise.

01:16:37 And so to some extent, you would think they shouldn't even really be offended that we're addressing this or rightly identifying that this is true because it's actually, if anything, being gracious towards them and saying, hey, you're being rational.

01:16:52 We don't think you're being malicious, but we just have opposing interests.

01:16:56 Right.

01:16:56 Yeah, there's two things that we need.

01:16:58 We're simple men here at NXR Studios.

01:17:00 We desire simple things, right?

01:17:01 We're humble, centrist, moderates in every sense of the term.

01:17:05 and all we long for is by the grace of God for heritage Americans, and even more particularly

01:17:11 Christians in the West, to simply desire for ourselves and work towards our own ends the

01:17:18 very same things that Jews do for themselves, right? You don't have to attribute everything

01:17:23 to malice. You don't have to impute motives and come up with some sort of sinister conclusion.

01:17:29 Are there individual Jews, certain Jewish billionaires, certain Jewish politicians,

01:17:36 Jewish elites who have sinister motives? 0.99

01:17:39 Yeah, I think so. 1.00

01:17:41 But the average Jewish person, are they absolutely wicked and they're all doing this? 1.00

01:17:49 I don't think so. 1.00

01:17:50 I think the average Jewish person, whether it be someone who is an Israeli citizen or

01:17:55 someone here in America, there are actually more ethnic Jews that live in America than

01:17:59 Israel currently. That's something important to keep in mind. For the average Jewish person,

01:18:03 I don't think that they're malicious. I think that they simply have an in-group preference. 0.98

01:18:08 They actually view themselves as a collective, right? They actually think in terms of identity,

01:18:13 much to, you know, someone like Tucker Carlson, who we all appreciate greatly. But this is

01:18:18 something where I think Tucker gets it wrong. He's like, well, I've worked really hard to get

01:18:22 rid of identity politics. And the irony is that all politics is identity politics. So what you're

01:18:28 ultimately doing is you're seeking to convince your own people to not play by the exact rules

01:18:34 that every other group does. And then you wonder why we're losing. Well, imagine if you were playing

01:18:39 basketball and you said, you know, when it comes to the rules of the game, we have determined for

01:18:46 our team, because we want to be above and beyond in our sportsmanship, in our degree of skill,

01:18:52 all these kinds of things, we've determined we will not shoot the basketball except by using

01:18:57 our feet. Every time we're going to make a shot, we're going to quickly get back on our backs,

01:19:02 on the court, put the ball between our two feet, and use our legs to try to shoot it through

01:19:07 the hoop. Now, here's the problem. None of the referees, none of the actual people in charge

01:19:14 of the league have made that determination, made that an official rule for everyone else.

01:19:18 So all the other teams are still shooting the ball with their hands like a sensical person.

01:19:23 It's only your team that's decided, hey, we're going to intentionally and deliberately disadvantage

01:19:30 our own team in the name of some kind of greater virtue or more. All politics is identity politics.

01:19:39 All of the world, every religion, whether it be Muslims or whether it be Judaism or whether it

01:19:43 be Hinduism or Buddhism, every other religion views themselves collectively as an identity,

01:19:49 as a group. Every other ethnicity or race views themselves collectively as a group. It is primarily

01:19:55 comes down to two things. Let's just name it. Let's just be honest. It's white people and it's

01:20:00 Christians. It's white people and it's Christians. These are the only two groups, speaking racially, 0.86

01:20:05 biologically, and speaking religiously, spiritually, that refuse to see themselves as a collective, 0.99

01:20:11 and even furthermore, with greater stupidity, have somehow convinced themselves that no one else does 0.99

01:20:18 either. And then we wonder why we lose all the time. So we are simple men. I said we desire two 0.99

01:20:26 things. Number one, first and foremost, we desire simply for our people, both in the national,

01:20:32 political, and even racial, ethnic sense, for heritage Americans to view themselves

01:20:37 as in their own in-group, that they would prefer and love their own, the auto amorce,

01:20:45 natural affections than in the spiritual religious category that especially our christian brothers

01:20:51 and sisters would view themselves as a group and band together work together voting towards their

01:20:57 interest we desire this then the second thing is this is a little bit further but it's perfectly

01:21:02 logical and reasonable and wesley already said this and tony already said this but once we can

01:21:07 accomplish step one and step one should be should be easy but sadly uh the last few decades have

01:21:12 proved it's a monumental task for heritage Americans and Christians to actually care about

01:21:17 their own people. So it's probably going to take some time, but once we can finally accomplish that,

01:21:22 Lord willing, the second one would be this. Anyone in our vicinity, in our nation, in our

01:21:28 body politic that is not necessarily malicious, but who is striving for certain things that are

01:21:36 in contradiction towards our people and our interest and our good, that we would put certain

01:21:43 restrictions on that. So we'd say, hey, there's actually a bunch of Jews in America, and many of 1.00

01:21:49 them are sweet people. But there are some that are in high positions of power and disproportionately

01:21:55 represented and have clear biases towards the nation of Israel, a foreign country, and not our

01:22:02 own. And they're really good at it because they're generally very intelligent and socially mobile.

01:22:06 They're high performers.

01:22:07 Those are the facts.

01:22:07 Exactly, yeah.

01:22:08 They are intelligent people.

01:22:09 They are.

01:22:10 And so because of that, because Haitians, let's just be honest, even if it was disproportionate 0.88

01:22:17 representatives in political office here in America from Haitians, it probably would not 0.99

01:22:22 be as successful. 1.00

01:22:23 Jews are richer. 0.99

01:22:25 Jews are smarter. 0.99

01:22:26 These are facts. 0.99

01:22:27 We know this.

01:22:28 It's like, well, that's white supremacy.

01:22:30 No, well, technically, that would have been Jewish supremacy, and I'm not a Jew.

01:22:33 So the point is, sorry, I just kind of choked myself up over that.

01:22:38 Sometimes, you know, sometimes my jokes are just so good.

01:22:40 If no one else laughs, I got to laugh at them myself.

01:22:43 But the point is this.

01:22:44 First, can we see ourselves as a collective?

01:22:47 Can we love our own, both in the natural category, heritage Americans, nationally, politically, ethnically, these things, and then in the spiritual category as well.

01:22:57 And I'm not saying necessarily that order.

01:22:58 I think the spiritual is even more important.

01:23:00 but Christian, Christian, that matters. Then once we can do that, so first, prefer your own.

01:23:07 Second, in humane, legal, benevolent ways, limit the opposition. Limit the opposition.

01:23:17 Put them on trains? No, I'm not saying that. But what I am saying is if there are Jews in America

01:23:24 and they're disproportionately represented, start politically in your government, right? 0.90

01:23:29 So if 2% of America is ethnically Jewish, but 4%, for instance, and it's higher, but 4% of your political apparatus is Jewish representatives, then maybe don't do that. 0.54

01:23:46 Maybe say, you know what, maybe we shouldn't do that. 0.64

01:23:49 And I have very clear solutions for this so that it's not biased, it's not malicious, it's not arbitrary or capricious.

01:23:59 I think that we should have a standard of men. 0.92

01:24:02 It should be men, not women. 0.98

01:24:04 It should be Christians.

01:24:06 It should also be heritage Americans that have, on both sides of their family,

01:24:10 been in America for at least three generations, no criminal record,

01:24:14 and net positive tax-paying citizens.

01:24:18 So these are guys who are not on the welfare system.

01:24:20 These are guys who are not criminals.

01:24:22 These are guys who are guys.

01:24:23 They're men and not women.

01:24:24 They're also Christian.

01:24:26 They've made a profession of faith.

01:24:28 They, you know, they've signed off and affirmed something like the Apostles' Creed or the

01:24:32 Nicene Creed, and they also are heritage Americans.

01:24:35 They've been here for at least three generations.

01:24:37 And if I added anything else, I would like them to be married.

01:24:40 So they have a stake in the past, three generations, stake in the future, they're married, which

01:24:43 ordinarily, doesn't always, but ordinarily means future posterity, okay?

01:24:47 Stake in the past of the country and a stake in the future.

01:24:51 Let's draw that as a boundary for who gets to hold office in America.

01:24:56 So you're not just picking on the Jews, right? 0.94

01:24:58 You're equal offenders. 0.96

01:25:00 You're picking on the Muslims, and you're picking on this, and you're picking on that.

01:25:03 You're saying, no, we're an American country, and we're a Christian country.

01:25:08 And so these are the guidelines.

01:25:10 These are the rules for who gets to play in our body politic.

01:25:15 This is perfectly reasonable.

01:25:16 So number one, view yourself as a group, favor your own, love your people.

01:25:22 That doesn't necessitate hatred towards others.

01:25:25 you don't have to hate others. You just need to start loving your own. That's number one.

01:25:30 Then number two, limit others if it's disproportional for sure. And if it's in that

01:25:37 disproportional representation, there's clear, biased contradictions that are at odds with what

01:25:44 is good and what benefits your people. Find a way to limit that humanely, righteously,

01:25:50 biblically but you got to do these things these are really really basic things and this is where

01:25:56 people racist anti-semite no this is this is how the founders thought this is how um every christian

01:26:05 has thought until very very recently we have to be able to have these conversations we're going

01:26:10 to continue to say it till we're blue in the face or until you know everybody just shuts us down

01:26:16 and even then i might just get a bullhorn and stand on the street corner and keep saying it 0.94

01:26:20 All right, that would prove Jews don't run the media. 0.90

01:26:22 If we got kicked off for saying Jews run the media 0.97

01:26:25 and they kicked us off for it, it'd be like, 0.94

01:26:26 wait, I feel like that just proved the point everyone was saying.

01:26:30 It was pretty funny with Nick Fuentes went to the club

01:26:34 with all these right-wing influencers.

01:26:35 And for the record, we don't support that.

01:26:39 They shouldn't be in a club.

01:26:40 Nick, in his defense, he looked very uncomfortable.

01:26:43 He had like a fish out of water. 0.75

01:26:44 The other guys, though, a little bit more degenerate.

01:26:48 And so don't support that.

01:26:49 But the irony was that, you know, they played the the Howl Hitler song by Kanye.

01:26:57 And after playing that in the club, they got kicked out of like every nightclub in the entire city of Miami.

01:27:05 And it was just funny because the Jewish mayor of Miami denounces it by name.

01:27:08 Why are you kicking? It's like we're kicking out Nick Fuentes.

01:27:11 And these guys are anti-Semitic. They said that Jews rule the world. 0.93

01:27:14 And it's like, but the Jewish owner of the nightclub just kicked out for playing this song, Nick Fuentes, from every nightclub in the entire city.

01:27:22 So we are furious that you say Jews are in charge of everything.

01:27:27 And also, we're kicking you out of everything because we actually are in charge of everything.

01:27:31 It was pretty ironic.

01:27:32 Okay, Antonio, let's do it.

01:27:33 Yeah, let's jump.

01:27:34 Let's start with the Rumble super chat from Yavin.

01:27:36 he sent $20 and says, regarding the inconsistency between the fascist ethno-nationalism of Zionism

01:27:42 and the multiculturalism religious pluralism of the left Jews, do they share a monolithic

01:27:48 Jewish consciousness? Yes. The only thing that I think all three of us would want to push back

01:27:55 on here is just take the word fascist out of it. Not because it's a no-no word, not because we're

01:28:00 scared, because it's just not true. So I actually don't want to give that to the libtards, to the 1.00

01:28:07 raging leftists and progressives, because what they want to do is say, you want to have a country 1.00

01:28:11 and a future for your children, you're a fascist, right? And so in having equal weights and measures,

01:28:17 right, being fair across the board, it actually is not fascist. If the Jews in Israel are saying,

01:28:24 we want predominantly an ethno state here in Israel. That's not fascist, right? Is Japan

01:28:32 fascist? No. Is Uganda fascist? No. Is Russia fascist? Maybe. Maybe. I don't think so. But

01:28:42 anyways, so take the fascist part out of it, not because it's a no-no word, but because it's just

01:28:47 technically imprecise. It's just not true. So instead, let's read the question like this,

01:28:51 Regarding the inconsistency between the ethno-nationalist of Zionism, and I'm thinking primarily Jews in Israel, Israeli citizens, their government and for their nation, and then the multiculturalism, religious pluralism of Jews on the left.

01:29:08 And in that regard, I'm thinking of mainly Jews in America.

01:29:11 I believe it's about 70, 80% of Jews in America are left.

01:29:16 And voting patterns, I believe, is a hard 80% Democrat vote every single election. 0.65

01:29:21 And so there's Jews on the right who are in Israel, and they think, for Israel, let's have an ethno-state.

01:29:30 Let's let it be Jewish and prefer our people.

01:29:33 And then Jews outside of Israel in America are, let's embrace multiculturalism.

01:29:39 For Israel? No here. 0.96

01:29:41 And so what I would say is, yeah, just two sides.

01:29:43 They're predicated on the same fundamental assumption, which is we are our in-group.

01:29:47 and when we're in a place where we can be the ruling class, if you will.

01:29:52 If we're in a place that's ours, let's keep it us.

01:29:55 And if we're in a place that's not, where we're a minority, 0.64

01:29:58 let's make that acceptable to be a minority in group.

01:30:00 If we're in a place where we're outnumbered, 0.99

01:30:02 then let's push for as few preferences towards the native population as possible, 0.99

01:30:09 knowing that it will not only exclusively benefit them,

01:30:13 it would benefit Muslims, it would benefit this,

01:30:16 but in america let's just be honest jews in america are not particularly uh worried about

01:30:21 being slaughtered by muslims because there's defenses and you know america is not going to 0.91

01:30:28 allow one percent two percent muslim exactly so in israel it's like no let's keep this jewish 0.98

01:30:33 in america it's um let's not keep this western christian white so that that's actually not 0.89

01:30:43 contradicting it's not very rational right very right as we said very rational psychological even

01:30:48 in the way that it just varies situationally yes it sounds like you got seven thousand dollars

01:30:52 in tony what happened my point is i don't even think it's two different uh it's not two different

01:30:58 ideologies and i don't think it's related to two different groups there's one group of jews in

01:31:02 israel that thinks this way and one group of jews in america that thinks this way i think you could

01:31:06 literally uh quite literally it'd be you know nobody could could force this to happen but it

01:31:10 would be fascinating and i put my money on it um i think you could literally swap them out you could

01:31:15 swap out the the right wing ethno-nationalist supporting jews in israel with the left wing

01:31:22 jews in america swap them out and i think they would actually do the same thing these guys over

01:31:27 here who are like ethno say in this context over here on the other side of the pond here in america

01:31:33 would be at multiculturalism and these guys over here who are multiculturalism and voting democrat

01:31:39 every election, if they're over here and they're a majority all of a sudden, Israel, they'd be like, 0.86

01:31:43 no, keep it Jewish. Yeah. Here's an interesting, we don't have to open this up too much, but it is 0.98

01:31:48 interesting politically, you mentioned that 70% of Jews in America vote on the left. 80. Or 80%.

01:31:54 The left is predominantly multicultural, but also becoming increasingly anti-Israel. And the right

01:32:01 is becoming increasingly, if you will, nationalistic, and so the Jews in America, that is, 0.95

01:32:10 they're kind of in the middle ground. What party do we want to pick? Do we want to pick the party 0.94

01:32:14 that's multicultural and allows us to be our own in-group, or do we want to pick the party that

01:32:17 might be a little bit more Zionist and friendly toward Israel, but they're actually in their own

01:32:22 nation less comfortable with us being there? Yeah, and I think ultimately what it will come

01:32:26 down to, they'll pick the side, they'll pick whether it's the left or the right, I think 0.87

01:32:30 they'll ultimately, the Jews in America, will pick the side that is most likely to put on the books 0.82

01:32:36 anti-Semitism laws to arrest the three of us, which sadly means they'll probably end up being 0.88

01:32:42 on the right. Because I'll be honest, the left, terrible. They're supporting the mass, you know,

01:32:49 immigration, invasion of our country, the Somalians and Indian and this and that. But let's just be 1.00

01:32:55 honest, on the right, although morally, when it comes to abortion, when it comes to homosexuality,

01:32:59 all these issues, I am right-wing, 100%, and I'm not going to muddy the waters. But it is probably 0.63

01:33:06 going to be the right, if I had to guess, right? Is it going to be AOC, or is it going to be

01:33:13 Peter Thiel, who gives us anti-Semitism laws? I think we know the answer to that,

01:33:21 and that's something that we just need to be aware of.

01:33:25 And that shared consciousness, remember, that comes from a group of people being

01:33:28 shaped by hundreds and hundreds of years of the same experience. We went over this in our genetics

01:33:32 episode we did a while ago, but Ashkenazi Jews have the highest rates of schizophrenia, which is

01:33:37 marked by hallmarks such as paranoia. These are these examples of how these people come to be 1.00

01:33:42 shaped by continuously being kicked out, people continuously being suspicious of them, constantly

01:33:47 being in an out group. And so they've been shaped to have, whether it be paranoia, schizophrenia,

01:33:51 to have these hallmarks that they're very much so looking out for themselves. And that's what

01:33:55 happens when a people, over time, they are shaped by all of the things that happened to them. So we

01:34:01 understand where this comes from. We get it. The Catholic monarchs, I mean, they were constantly

01:34:05 kicking them out because they had this group in Christendom that sticks out like a sore thumb.

01:34:09 They didn't share a land with Hindus. They didn't share a land with Muslims. There was one group of 0.82

01:34:13 people, and sometimes they got blamed when they didn't even do it. Sometimes they did. Sometimes

01:34:17 they didn't. But that shaped them as a people to be what they're like now, which is when we're in

01:34:23 In a scenario, we're the minority, 0.97

01:34:25 immigration as much as possible. 1.00

01:34:26 Let us not be the only stock standing up

01:34:29 that can be cut down.

01:34:30 But when it's finally our own, 0.89

01:34:32 this was Zionism, we have our home. 1.00

01:34:34 Lock that thing down. 1.00

01:34:37 Right, well said.

01:34:38 All right, next one.

01:34:38 Yeah, let's stay on the rumble side.

01:34:41 Caesar's back sent $10 and says,

01:34:43 referring to you, Joel,

01:34:44 agree on your take on Babel, Pentecost.

01:34:46 Could Babel be a natural foreshadowing

01:34:48 of what's spiritually done at Pentecost?

01:34:50 one nation, one holy people, one language, communion with God, Babel, New Jerusalem.

01:34:56 Yeah, I appreciate that. No, and the reason why I think no is what was happening at Babel. So we

01:35:02 have to be careful with types and shadows, types and anti-types when it comes to the Bible, you

01:35:08 know, symbology and these kinds of things. So the ram that's caught in the thicket with its horns

01:35:13 when Abraham is about to sacrifice his son Isaac in obedience to the Lord, and then the angel

01:35:18 stills Abraham's hand in the last moment and provides the sacrifice of the ram that's caught

01:35:23 in the thicket, that ram is a type that points towards Jesus, who ultimately takes away the

01:35:29 sins of the world, the final, you know, pure and spotless lamb of God. And so there are types and

01:35:35 shadows in the Bible. There's plenty of covenant signs. But in the case of Babel, no, because I

01:35:41 think what the writer is getting at in this case, Caesar's back, is saying not the judgment that

01:35:47 happened at Babel, where God comes down and confuses their languages. But I think he's talking

01:35:51 about the project of Babel before the judgment intervened. I think he's talking about the project

01:35:57 of Babel, everyone staying together. And remember, there are two main sins that I've outlined with 0.88

01:36:02 what happened at Babel. One is a blazing arrogance, right? Let's build a tower that stretches to the 0.66

01:36:08 heavens, not to commune with God, but to be like God and to rival God. Let's build a tower that

01:36:13 stretches to the heavens so that we can be closer to God, so that we can speak to God. No, it says

01:36:18 so that we might make a name for ourselves, that we might be as God. So there's the arrogance factor.

01:36:24 The second is so that also we will not be scattered over the face of the earth, that we

01:36:29 won't be separated. But that's the very thing in the cultural mandate that God gave to mankind to

01:36:33 do. Be fruitful and multiply, so have lots of people, and go and fill the earth and subdue it,

01:36:40 right? So make lots of people and then spread all these people out so that the whole earth is filled

01:36:46 with image bearers of the living God, worshiping the triune God in spirit and in truth, so that

01:36:51 the whole earth is filled with the knowledge of the glory of God as the waters cover the sea.

01:36:55 That's the big idea. That's the biblical thread from beginning to end. And what's happening at

01:37:00 Babel, not the judgment of God, but the project of Babel itself was a sinful, wicked project of 0.90

01:37:06 rebellion, both in arrogance to the glory of God, but also rebellion, disobedience to the command 1.00

01:37:13 of God, to be fruitful, multiply, and to spread out and fill the earth. And so, no, I don't believe

01:37:18 that that should be used as a type, because if we're not careful, then we can just say everything

01:37:22 in the Bible is a type and shadow. The Bible has lots of types and shadows, but everything is not

01:37:28 a type and shadow. Then we can point to anyone's rebellion. We can say, well, Lamech, you know,

01:37:32 he's the first guy to have a polygamous marriage, and he takes two wives, and that's, you know, 0.97

01:37:37 actually just a type that Jesus one day would have a bride, the church, and it would be made up of 0.72

01:37:42 two women, you know, the Gentiles and the Jews, that they would come into one, and that's just

01:37:47 not how we read the Bible. So I think that the listener who put this in, I want to commend you.

01:37:54 I know what you're doing here, and the conclusion you come to is a right conclusion, but it's

01:37:59 important as we're doing the work of hermeneutics and reading and studying the Scripture that we

01:38:03 not only land on the right conclusion, the right answer, but that we get there the right way. So

01:38:08 think of like your math homework when you were in third or fourth grade, and it's not just enough

01:38:12 to write down the right answer. Your teacher, math teacher, would always say, show me the work.

01:38:16 Show me how you got there so that I know you didn't just plug it into your calculator, right? I want

01:38:20 to see your work. I want to see how you got there. And so whenever we're using types and shadows in

01:38:24 the Scripture. They need to be legitimate forms of types and antitypes, and I don't think that

01:38:30 Babel is a type that points towards Pentecost. Now, if you want to say that the judgment of God

01:38:36 at Babel, confusing their languages, that that was a type for the reversal at Pentecost, 0.98

01:38:41 I think that that's true, and a lot of guys like Calvin or like Bovink held to that, 0.97

01:38:45 but they all held to it with the important disclaimer that a lot of our gay race communist 0.62

01:38:50 Christians today, modernists, will leave out. And the disclaimer that we hold and that other

01:38:56 theologians of antiquity also included is, yes, the judgment, not the project of Babel, the project

01:39:03 of their rebellion, but the judgment of God because of their rebellion at Babel, confusing

01:39:08 the languages, is a type for the reversal that happened at Pentecost when God allowed them to

01:39:13 speak in tongues of other nations and tribes so that they would hear the preaching of the gospel.

01:39:18 but the disclaimer is, but that was temporary, whereas God's confusing of the languages at

01:39:23 Babel was permanent. So what God did in His judgment at Babel was permanent so that peoples

01:39:29 actually would be distinct and remain so, whereas what God did in His reversal at Pentecost was a

01:39:35 supernatural act to kickstart as a catalyst for the gospel to go global, but it was not a permanent

01:39:42 change. 2,000 years removed, we're not all speaking one language. So God allowed for them to hear

01:39:48 all the people that were gathered there in Jerusalem at that time, God supernaturally

01:39:52 allowed his disciples, the disciples of Jesus, the 72, meeting in the upper room, who were

01:39:58 infilled and empowered by the Holy Ghost to speak in the supernatural gift of tongues so that all

01:40:04 these other tribes and nations represented at that time could hear the gospel preached in their own

01:40:10 language, but then it ceased. They took the knowledge of the gospel back with them, but

01:40:15 speaking their own languages, and the 72 go back to speaking their language. So that was a temporary 0.98

01:40:22 supernatural catalyst for one spiritual nation grafted into the church, but not to somehow undo

01:40:30 the natural distinctions in the temporal realm of fleshly nations. This is God's idea, and it remains

01:40:37 so. Well said. Two more Super Chats we'll hit here on the YouTube side. P.O. Andrew sent $5 and says,

01:40:44 the U.S. had laws and state constitutions against interracial marriage in most states until 1967

01:40:49 and only completely made it legal in 2022 with the Respect for Marriage Act, RFMA.

01:40:56 You know history better than I do. 0.98

01:40:58 Yeah, this is true.

01:40:58 It's no surprise.

01:41:00 The left has accomplished so many of its big wins or achievements politically through judicial

01:41:06 activism.

01:41:07 And so whether it's through the civil rights era, whether it's related to same-sex unions,

01:41:12 it's always predominantly through the courts. And then later, once they've changed the popular

01:41:18 consensus on the issue, they'll come and pass a law that statutorily protects those things.

01:41:23 And so in December 2022, the Respect for Marriage Act basically reversed the Defense of Marriage

01:41:28 Act from 1996 and made it officially, if you will, legal, although it would have been

01:41:34 unconstitutional, according to the Supreme Court, to put laws against interracial marriage in any

01:41:38 of the 50 states and for the record it was only about 14 states so 67 is loving versus virginia

01:41:44 30 states had laws on the books in 1940s into 1950 it was down to about 14 by the start of 1960 and

01:41:50 there was still loose enforcement even and there was loose enforcement yeah so a lot of people when

01:41:55 they put a comment like that like well did you know that the 1790 immigration act said free

01:41:59 white people like wow we never knew that we know but also some there's some additional context which

01:42:04 in this case it was 14 of about 50 states at the time not quite that had laws on the books okay

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01:42:33 that a lot of people are not willing to talk about.

01:42:36 And then some of the guys who are willing

01:42:37 to talk about these things, they talk about them,

01:42:39 but let's just be honest, they're nationalist heavy,

01:42:42 but Christian light, they just are.

01:42:45 And so we're trying to say, no, no, no,

01:42:47 we are unapologetic Christians and we know our Bibles

01:42:50 and we know theology and we're not hiding our Christianity.

01:42:55 That's right there, front and center.

01:42:57 But we're also not Christians who, let's be honest,

01:43:01 a lot of the guys who are Christian heavy,

01:43:02 they're just post-war consensus respecters you know they're like they're christian heavy but

01:43:07 um but really they're they're globalists they're they don't believe they don't believe the flesh

01:43:13 that the temporal realm the earthly realm is of any value or any account and so we're trying to 0.51

01:43:18 say no nations matter race is real um jewish influence and you know world jewry jew jewish

01:43:26 supremacy these things are real we need to be aware of these things race is real jewish supremacy

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The NXR Podcast - February 02, 2026

NXR Livestream - Jewish Supremacy & The Goyim with Dr. Kevin MacDonald

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