The NXR Podcast - February 20, 2026


NXR Livestream - Men’s Health Tips For Higher Earnings (w⧸DR. Chris Boettcher)


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You're Fat, You're Feminine, And You're Poor. The verdict has come back in. You are fat, you are feminine, and therefore you are poor. Here are some studies breaking it down. We have a special guest, Dr. Chris Betcher, joining us to break it all down.

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00:00:00.000 All right. We've got a vitally important episode for you today. The verdict has come back in. Here
00:00:06.300 are the results. You are fat, you are feminine, and therefore you are poor. Here's some studies. 1.00
00:00:12.940 We're going to be breaking it down over the course of the episode, but I'm going to whet your
00:00:16.340 appetite, give you a little bit of this right up front. Is muscle strengthening exercise associated
00:00:22.240 with better academic performance of literacy, mathematics, and language results from a
00:00:28.600 cross-sectional study. Here's some of the highlighted results. There was a generally
00:00:32.820 progressive increase in the likelihood of better AP of Chinese, mathematics, and English with
00:00:40.920 increase in days of MSE. Here's another study in regards to testosterone. Testosterone, risk,
00:00:48.760 and socioeconomic position in British men exploring casual directionality. Here's some
00:00:55.900 of the verdicts increase in log transform monthly earnings probability of being in work that is
00:01:04.020 being gainfully employed here's another study weight and wages fat versus lean paychecks we
00:01:12.360 show that being overweight and obese penalizes the probability of employment across all race
00:01:19.500 gender subgroups except for black women and men and we know why that might be an exception
00:01:25.720 I think DEI has something to do with that. 0.86
00:01:28.680 Here's the point.
00:01:29.720 The verdict is in.
00:01:30.600 We're going to be breaking all this down.
00:01:32.100 And we have a special guest who's going to be joining us in this episode today.
00:01:36.420 Dr. Chris taking his expertise on exercise, fitness, men's health, and how this correlates
00:01:43.900 directly.
00:01:44.720 It directly correlates to ambition, to energy, to focus.
00:01:51.240 And all that translates directly to earning potential.
00:01:56.780 Your physical health, your vitality absolutely has a direct effect on your ability to be an ambitious young man
00:02:06.100 who is achieving certain metrics, increasing your earning power, protecting and providing for your family. 0.66
00:02:13.680 If the Christian new right is going to win, if we are going to be successful,
00:02:19.000 If we're going to make a difference for our families and for the nation, then we must be high caliber men.
00:02:26.280 And there is no scenario in which you can be a couch potato with low T and high BMI and somehow still be successful on the front lines of taking back our country for Christ.
00:02:40.080 That's the focus today.
00:02:41.460 we're going to be giving you medical facts how it translates to ambition and earning potential in
00:02:47.660 today's episode tune in now breaking news you're fat and so am i let's just be honest i'm sitting
00:02:56.040 here recording a commercial practically spilling out of my chair we're not energetic we're not
00:03:01.740 masculine we're not as healthy as we should be we're men right you're a husband you're a father 0.97
00:03:06.500 we should be hard to kill. And let's be honest, we're making it easy on our enemies. So what's 0.97
00:03:11.620 the problem? The problem is you're fat because you're hungry. And when you're hungry, you're
00:03:15.380 eating snacks. That's a bunch of goy slop. There's not a lot of good things in snack form in between 0.97
00:03:21.000 meals. As a man, we need raw milk, eggs, beef. Those are the things, but it's hard to find them
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00:04:36.780 radical christian nationalist pastor joel webin joel webin
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00:04:57.720 All right, here we are, and we are joined today by a special guest, Dr. Chris, and I'm not even
00:05:12.900 going to attempt to pronounce this last name. Chris, thanks for coming on the show. Can you
00:05:17.640 tell us how to say your last name? Yeah, absolutely. It's great to be here. Last name
00:05:22.140 is pronounced Betcher. Betcher. Great. Okay. Tell our listeners a little bit about your expertise.
00:05:27.720 how you got into health, the things that you've done, and make a little bit of an argument for
00:05:33.580 your credibility. Why should we listen to what you have to say today? Yeah, so I got my doctor
00:05:39.160 of physical therapy, went through the whole kind of traditional health care process and
00:05:43.600 indoctrination, for lack of a better word, and spent 10 years there and just recognized in the
00:05:50.240 middle of COVID, the system was failing way too many people. I had done a number of things on the
00:05:56.660 collegiate athletic side of things went on to compete and did 10 different Ironmans over the
00:06:02.740 course of about a seven or eight year plan and just realized that like I could do a lot more
00:06:07.700 for people outside of the system than I could in and so my brother and I who he's also a licensed
00:06:13.500 physical therapist as well we were kind of beating our heads against the wall back in 2020 2021 and
00:06:19.360 we just decided it's time to move on and so we established brother to brother and we've been
00:06:24.100 helping people provide structure, provide accountability ever since then to really make
00:06:29.920 tangible long-term impacts on their habits and their health as opposed to injections and long-term
00:06:36.280 medications. Awesome. Well, thanks for coming on the show. I think that's vital. It's important.
00:06:41.280 We're going to go ahead and show a few different studies here, and then we want to get your take
00:06:46.040 on these studies and then also have you just add to it whatever you have expertise that we don't.
00:06:51.500 And so I'm going to have Wes go over a few studies.
00:06:54.560 And Wes, you know, you say it from time to time, but it's, you know, like we always have
00:06:59.260 new guys who are tuning in who may not know it, but give a little bit of your background.
00:07:03.360 So I went to Columbia University for my undergraduate in biology, went to Texas for my
00:07:07.440 master's in public health, University of Texas.
00:07:09.780 And so I'm not the doctor that Chris is, but I've spent a lot of time looking at these
00:07:13.900 studies and also being able to parse out.
00:07:16.200 So a study will say something, for instance, but if you kind of peer a little bit closer,
00:07:19.720 you can say, well, hang on. I think actually this is conflating. This is masking what's really
00:07:25.060 going on. And a great example of this in this first study that I want to get into is the difference
00:07:29.240 between BMI and body fat. And so you look at some studies and they'll say, well, we looked at it and
00:07:34.300 the increase in BMI, which stands for body mass increase, wasn't associated with any difference
00:07:38.620 whatsoever. Or maybe it wasn't necessarily associated with the difference, for example,
00:07:42.320 for white males or for black females. Well, BMI versus body fat percentage is a huge distinction
00:07:48.260 that matters a lot. Body mass index is simply an index of the ratio of your height to your weight.
00:07:54.800 Now, as we all know, someone can be 200 pounds and someone else be 200 pounds,
00:07:59.540 but there'll be a massive difference between the two. All we're essentially saying is,
00:08:04.000 we know at this height and at this weight, a rough estimation, a rough index, rough ratio of them
00:08:09.460 will be 25, 26, 27. But that tells us nothing about muscle. It tells us nothing about body
00:08:16.220 fat percentage. It tells us nothing about health. Body fat percentage is a much better metric to go
00:08:22.360 off of. For men especially, women need a little bit higher actually, and that relates to fertility, 0.91
00:08:26.840 that relates to just their physiology. They're designed to have a little bit more. Men, if your 0.94
00:08:32.520 body fat is above 20%, you are not at optimal health. The body fat, adipose tissue, very much
00:08:40.260 so is pro-estrogenic. So your testosterone, it is not in an optimal state when your body fat is
00:08:46.520 higher. Body fat also increases your energy. Body fat increases the difficulty and everything that
00:08:51.640 there is with moving. And so one of the key distinctions with some of these studies that
00:08:55.220 we've looked at, here's a great one. We held it up initially, weight and wages, fat versus lean
00:09:00.820 paychecks. And there was some association, this one used BMI, not body fat percentage. There was
00:09:06.220 some association it did show hey as your bmi just this general ratio height to weight goes up
00:09:11.380 uh you generally earn less now this didn't hold true for black men and black women didn't and
00:09:17.020 held more true for professions with interpersonal relations so this is ones where you're interacting
00:09:21.520 with someone as you can imagine with coding probably if you had a desk job it's actually
00:09:25.580 we want coders that have a higher bmi but this is another study that shows something very similar
00:09:30.920 and shows it actually stronger.
00:09:32.520 So this is a 2010 study from Roy Wada,
00:09:35.220 Body Composition and Wages.
00:09:36.980 And I won't go through the whole methodology
00:09:38.320 and everything like that,
00:09:39.500 but listen to these results.
00:09:41.060 Our results suggest that a rise in body fat
00:09:43.720 is associated with decreases in the wages
00:09:47.380 of both white males and white females,
00:09:49.720 while a rise in the FFM,
00:09:51.900 FFM stands for fat-free muscle.
00:09:54.680 So this is your muscle mass.
00:09:56.080 This is your lean muscle,
00:09:57.260 while a rise in fat-free muscle
00:09:58.980 is associated with an increase in the wages of both groups.
00:10:02.040 These findings are in contrast to previous studies 0.84
00:10:04.880 that found strong evidence of a negative effect for white females,
00:10:08.320 but not always for white males.
00:10:10.260 And so the lower your body fat is, the more you earn, generally speaking.
00:10:15.020 We're talking in averages here.
00:10:16.320 The more muscle mass you have, generally the more you earn.
00:10:20.160 We saw this with academic performance in another study
00:10:22.800 that we highlighted in the intro.
00:10:25.040 Muscle strengthening exercises, the more days you do that,
00:10:28.980 is associated with a proportional increase in performance on academic subjects, performance on
00:10:35.600 languages, performance on mathematics. And the idea is that it's all tied together. Testosterone,
00:10:41.520 body fat, health, sleep, energy, they're all interconnected. And generally, a man especially,
00:10:47.780 women's health is a whole other topic. Women are different. Women have a monthly cycle. 1.00
00:10:52.480 Men have much more closer to a daily cycle. You look at testosterone, it rises and falls
00:10:57.200 on a more daily basis. Women's hormones, they fluctuate over and across an entire month. It's 0.98
00:11:01.700 an entirely different calculus. But for men, they're all connected. Here's another study. This
00:11:07.600 was a Harvard lab study. Financial risk-taking behavior is associated with higher testosterone.
00:11:15.080 The researchers found that men whose testosterone levels were more than one standard deviation above
00:11:19.520 the mean put 12% more than the average man into risky investments. So you look at men who take
00:11:26.600 risks financially. They invest in things. It's like, I don't know if a return's guaranteed.
00:11:31.800 You could put that in the S&P and get 7% per year. Well, men who have testosterone say,
00:11:36.120 I want to beat that. I want to do better. Men with lower body fat, men with more muscle,
00:11:41.080 they on average earn more. They're all connected. And so men who strive, men who achieve,
00:11:46.500 men who work hard. Oh, also look, they're not 100 pounds overweight. What a surprise.
00:11:51.260 All right, Dr. Chris, I want to give you ample time to respond to that. Feel free to push back.
00:11:56.600 if you disagree or flesh it out and give us give us even more so what do you think yeah i mean i
00:12:02.900 like what you said early on wes about the distinction between bmi and body fat percentage
00:12:08.180 i like to think of bmi as when you're looking at a collective population that is how it's being
00:12:14.240 kind of judged upon is it's easy for them to kind of put people in categories based on oh you're
00:12:19.720 25%, 30%, 40 on the BMI scale, versus on the body fat side of things, it really gives you
00:12:27.120 concrete information on an individual level. And so if you do have more muscle mass, you're going
00:12:33.680 to be able to, you know, you might, you might stand out on a higher BMI, but then you go and
00:12:39.200 have something like a DEXA scan that shows, yeah, you're at 16, 17% body fat, and you actually have
00:12:45.780 significantly more muscle mass than the average person who falls in that same BMI as you. So it
00:12:51.500 really does give you that opportunity to figure out where you are, as opposed to just like being
00:12:57.440 thrown into a category of individuals that it's you're just comparing apples to oranges for from
00:13:03.360 the average population in most cases. But I totally agree with the testosterone side of things. And
00:13:10.300 you start looking at mentioned the risk taking even like the creation of businesses and things
00:13:15.360 like that there's as we become more and more suppressed on the testosterone side of things
00:13:21.460 and our estrogen levels continue to increase you're just seeing less people jump into starting
00:13:26.640 their new business and i think there's a a whole host of probable entrepreneurs that have never
00:13:32.320 taken that jump because the their diet their activity level they're not getting sunshine
00:13:37.540 and as a result they just continue to kind of go through the motions of life um suppressing their
00:13:42.900 income and you know their their overall opportunity to impact the world it's risky and scary to start
00:13:48.600 a business men look at that and they're like well what if i don't make as much as i currently make
00:13:52.320 in this wage job what if i run into this challenge what if nobody else believes in me and that's
00:13:56.580 exactly right and they say i'm not going to start it right yeah it's interesting i was just going to
00:14:02.260 add you know something that popped in my head is as we think about um sort of performance in the
00:14:07.540 economy it's like the poorest people in the world are men and the richest people in the world are
00:14:11.660 men. And this actually would explain it if you think about testosterone as a sort of risk
00:14:15.520 inducing behavior or risk inducing, if you will. As men take more risks, there's also a higher
00:14:23.800 likelihood they fail. And so the higher testosterone men are making the big bets and that might make
00:14:28.500 them a billionaire. That also might make them, you know, living in their, having them living in
00:14:32.040 their mom's basement. So it goes either way. Yep. So true. Let's go ahead and have a quick
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00:16:23.160 All right, Chris, I wanted to ask you, it feels like, you know, it'd be nice to have
00:16:29.000 the benign explanation for a lot of these things and just say, oh, well, you know, we
00:16:32.720 just lost our our vigilance you know we just kind of let down our guard but but I've learned enough
00:16:41.160 to where I've realized sadly many of the transitions for what's happening in America in
00:16:48.580 regards to health and a host of other things for that matter are actually engineered they're
00:16:53.060 actually designed it's not just that oh you know all of a sudden Americans stopped caring about
00:16:58.020 health it's like oh no this this very specific thing took place at this time and it caused people
00:17:03.060 to change the way they thought about x y and z you know or and like the propaganda is is real and
00:17:09.400 and so i wanted to just get your take on um because i feel like i don't even know your thoughts on
00:17:16.940 this so you might disagree but i feel like between the legalization of marijuana um i feel like the
00:17:22.660 food pyramid was like one of the biggest psyops of all time that literally told you to eat the
00:17:27.240 exact opposite of what we were supposed to be eating. Introduction of sugar in everything,
00:17:32.000 cereal, those kinds of things, like heavy grains and low protein. And it really does feel as though,
00:17:38.400 I mean, it's hard for me to believe that someone is just a whole group of elites are just totally 1.00
00:17:44.020 bumbling fools. Because it's been so detrimental to Americans' health, and especially men, 0.98
00:17:50.960 that I'm like, no, you would have to hate. You'd have to hate the citizens of these United States.
00:17:57.140 It's like you couldn't even, the chances are just too, you could not accidentally fall into a plan more devastating for the American people than what has happened over the past, you know, few decades, half a century.
00:18:10.400 So this seems to me to be intentional and malicious in many ways.
00:18:16.400 We don't have to get into, you know, every single person who's behind it.
00:18:20.280 But I wanted to get your take on the food pyramid.
00:18:22.880 I wanted to get your take on what are some of the biggest things that currently men in
00:18:28.900 America are being lied to about in regards to health?
00:18:33.500 I'm actually glad you're kind of going this direction because I think as comfortable as
00:18:38.380 we are in society, and there's a lot of things that are a struggle for people in day-to-day
00:18:44.260 life, but the reality is it's still pretty comfortable for way too many of us that we
00:18:49.440 don't recognize the battle that we're in. And again, you could easily pass this off as just
00:18:56.840 companies wanting to make a little bit more money, wanting to kind of take advantage of that aspect
00:19:02.260 of it. But I come to think it's a lot more nefarious than that. And to me, it just comes
00:19:07.620 down to kind of good and evil and that there are evil entities that are working against us as an
00:19:14.700 individual. And to me, it comes down to just recognizing to that, like, you know, the spirit
00:19:21.220 of God rests in each of us. And so if you wanted to break people from that, the easiest way to do
00:19:27.160 that is to make them feel sick and disconnect their, you know, their soul from their body and
00:19:31.860 just get them to go through the motions of life day after day, operating at, you know, 50 to 60
00:19:38.300 percent of their potential and never be able to recognize what else God's calling them to do.
00:19:45.660 So that's kind of how I see it big picture. Now, like you said, I don't necessarily have
00:19:50.500 all the answers in terms of what the elites are up to and the conspiratorial side of it.
00:19:55.640 I just know that those forces are working against us day in and day out and that ultimately we need
00:20:01.960 to take control of our own health because we can't really place that responsibility into
00:20:07.500 systems to take you know take care of it and you know again i saw that time and time again of people
00:20:12.100 going into the hospital system waiting for them to you know wave their magic wand and they came
00:20:17.480 out on more meds more dependent than ever before and you can just see how you know people become
00:20:23.240 a shell themselves in the last 20 30 40 years of their life they're they're existing they're not
00:20:28.400 living anymore at that point right i agree um with the food pyramid specifically because i i 1.00
00:20:34.980 really do feel like that was i just refuse to believe that uh i mean scientists are stupid 0.92
00:20:41.400 don't get me wrong i'm i'm perfectly content to say that publicly as often as possible 1.00
00:20:46.160 um the experts i mean they really are stupid but i don't want the stupidity of our current 1.00
00:20:51.820 elites and experts to somehow eclipse um their evil i really want to make sure that our listeners 1.00
00:20:57.960 know that hey stupid but not stupid only also incredibly sinister and evil and when i think of 0.99
00:21:04.240 the fear pyramid and some of the research that i've done on it and looking um that's just it was 0.99
00:21:10.520 just it was it was so opposite of what's actually true i just can't i can't uh just pin it all on
00:21:18.360 negligence or stupidity um what what do you think what do you like i i'll just say i think um
00:21:25.560 that men with vitality with high testosterone uh with high ambition and energy are much uh 0.99
00:21:33.680 less docile and much more difficult to control. And so I think things like legalized marijuana,
00:21:41.020 high sugar diets, more carbs, less meat, lower testosterone with women, SSRIs. I think Alex
00:21:49.020 Jones nailed it. You know, the water, the fluoride is turning the frogs gay. I think it's turning a 1.00
00:21:52.920 lot of the people gay. And I think all these things combined is a perfect recipe for a populace 1.00
00:22:00.240 in what has been traditionally a superpower on the global stage,
00:22:05.740 the most powerful nation in the world with freedom-loving people, right?
00:22:11.000 Like a stock of people that are known for being cowboys
00:22:14.900 and taming the wild, wild west and all these things.
00:22:18.560 And it's like, how can you take that country with that people
00:22:23.200 and somehow strip it of all its ambition.
00:22:30.820 Like that's a really hard thing to do.
00:22:32.160 That's a monumental task.
00:22:33.420 And I don't think that propaganda messaging
00:22:35.980 was sufficient on its own.
00:22:38.160 I think that people realize,
00:22:40.040 no, it also has to be biochemical.
00:22:43.160 Like if we're going to take the American people
00:22:45.200 as elite as they are, as ambitious as they are,
00:22:48.920 and somehow sedate them is the word I'm looking for.
00:22:53.200 that's going to require not just the messaging that goes into their minds, but what goes into
00:22:59.060 their mouths. You are what you eat. And yeah, so the food pyramid, if we could just stay on that
00:23:06.800 for a while, what would you disagree with? And what would you prescribe instead in terms of diet?
00:23:13.800 What should men be eating? Yeah, so I would say I disagree with virtually all of it. Now,
00:23:21.240 I will say they've recently probably a month and a half ago come out with a new version of it that
00:23:26.660 is on the right track. And I think we can, you know, thank Secretary Kennedy for making some
00:23:32.300 adjustments and being more outspoken about what it needed to happen. You know, when I look at even
00:23:37.560 on an individual level with clients that come to us, but also the population, you know, you think
00:23:42.880 about the average person consumes like 10 grams of protein per breakfast, which is just laughable.
00:23:48.220 Um, you know, when you start, you know, and most people think like, oh, I have two eggs
00:23:52.520 every morning.
00:23:53.000 It's like, that's 12 grams of protein guys.
00:23:55.080 Like that's just not going to get the job done.
00:23:57.160 Um, but they don't know how to get that number up into an area where you're supporting muscle
00:24:03.080 recovery.
00:24:03.580 You're supporting, um, you know, improved muscle, uh, even testosterone levels and things
00:24:08.660 like that.
00:24:08.960 Like we can't build hormones without adequate protein intake on a day-to-day basis because
00:24:13.380 our body doesn't store it very well.
00:24:15.340 we're very very good at storing fats and carbs we're not very good at storing protein so if the
00:24:20.220 consumption isn't there on a regular basis you can see where hormones get out of balance muscle
00:24:25.380 losses it falls up falls off a cliff and we become you know kind of that skinny fat version
00:24:31.540 of ourselves we may not be 300 pounds but even at 220 most people are very low muscle mass very
00:24:37.660 low definition and carrying 50 extra pounds than what they actually need so you know and i'm not
00:24:43.440 going to sit here and say that like carbs are evil or things like that. I think what we've
00:24:47.980 created in our society is this hyper processed version of what we think carbs are when really
00:24:54.600 it's these fat carb combinations of mashed potatoes and mac and cheese and pizzas and
00:25:00.940 things that are, they don't, those, those foods don't exist in nature. Like other than like breast
00:25:05.720 milk, there is almost no combination of fats and carbs that like exist together in, in kind of a
00:25:13.620 whole food form. And, you know, what does breast milk do? It causes babies to grow rapidly. Well,
00:25:19.400 when we eat them as adults, it causes us to grow very rapidly as well. So, you know, I think it's
00:25:24.280 more of like building the foundations around protein. And, you know, one of my rules is we
00:25:29.120 should be getting to a minimum of 30 grams of protein per meal, like minimum. And it's not that
00:25:34.200 hard to do once you know how to leverage foods with like a quality protein to calorie ratio and
00:25:40.460 things like that. Um, so that we're not having, you know, 10 grams of protein and then, you know,
00:25:45.780 four different sources of carb fat combinations where it's like, yeah, we've consumed a thousand
00:25:50.580 calories and we've only got 10 or 15 grams of protein on this plate. That's just a losing
00:25:54.680 strategy day after day. Well said. Yeah. And I would just say, Joel, going back to your comment
00:25:59.200 about sedation and what, what the consequences of the food pyramid that was introduced in the
00:26:03.640 1990s, has been, particularly within the male population here in America, I think it's,
00:26:08.480 even if you were to say it was an accidental cause that sedation has happened, I think 0.54
00:26:13.440 it's undeniable that that's true, that you look at men today and they look in the mirror
00:26:17.020 and they're uninspired by how they look, they feel bad, there's probably a positive
00:26:20.820 feedback loop and feeling bad, lower testosterone, I'm actually now not incentivized to go to
00:26:25.540 the gym, not incentivized to eat healthy.
00:26:27.940 It's kind of similar to like the architecture scheme, the modernism that's been introduced.
00:26:31.780 It's just soul crushing.
00:26:32.640 And it's actually funny, I was thinking about maybe potentially one of the other causes as you introduce the food pyramid is corporate interest.
00:26:39.980 I mean, there's no secret that you have doctors at the FDA who have come over from companies as they were top researchers at a company like Hostess or Procter & Gamble.
00:26:48.400 Now they're coming in and saying, hey, actually what that company's doing, it's a revolving door.
00:26:52.340 What they're doing is actually something that should be promoted.
00:26:54.620 I actually was looking in preparation of the show, Dr. Chris, I'm curious if you knew this, but if I'm a company like Wonder Bread,
00:27:00.540 If anyone remembers Wonder Bread, it was massive in the 2010s and the 90s.
00:27:05.300 That company was actually owned by another company called Hostess.
00:27:09.580 I think they sell glazed, just the sloppiest glazed donuts.
00:27:13.400 And they also sell Wonder Bread.
00:27:14.600 It's practically cake.
00:27:16.180 Now, if I'm them and I'm introducing a product that's just jam-packed of unhealthy fats and carbohydrates,
00:27:22.000 what do I tell the FDA?
00:27:23.700 What do I say, hey, this is the healthiest thing you can eat?
00:27:26.600 It's bread, bread in the morning, bread in the afternoon, bread at dinner.
00:27:29.720 And so it really, I'm just asking questions, but it really doesn't surprise you when you
00:27:33.660 think about these things is, oh yeah, there's clear corporate interest, people wanting to
00:27:38.380 pad their pockets and they're willing to sacrifice the health of the American people to do that.
00:27:43.060 Yeah, I think that's true.
00:27:44.640 And horseshoe theory is real in many regards, but here's one example.
00:27:50.260 I just, I can't help but recognize, and I know all of our listeners, they see this,
00:27:54.540 you know this instinctively, you know this.
00:27:56.540 um it's like men and women have have gotten to the point where they they've kind of come back
00:28:03.840 around and uh there is like a growing sizable population of men and women that virtually like
00:28:13.440 physically on on the face of it you just look at them they look the same like the like the the
00:28:19.680 short-haired like you're um ellen degenerate and you're i don't know i can't think of a guy offhand
00:28:28.840 but um just you know a limp-wristed very weak frail man they have the same haircut they have
00:28:36.520 the same grip strength you have a weak jawline because they didn't grow up processing meats that
00:28:41.920 are difficult to chew they grew up on a diet of soft foods which meant their palate never expanded
00:28:46.040 And so they have all these teeth crowded in, a recessed chin behind them.
00:28:49.540 Instead of a strong, masculine jaw, they have this sunken, soft, rounded, feminine face.
00:28:55.460 Yeah.
00:28:56.120 And so it's affecting even the way that Americans look.
00:29:00.900 Like there's less distinctives.
00:29:03.000 Obviously, we know a lot of this, you know, is intentional in terms of, you know, the LGBT and transgenderism and all those kinds of things. 0.55
00:29:09.060 But I'm talking aside from just behavior patterns and the way that people dress, I'm saying like the physique and the physical, biological category alone, men and women are starting to look the same. 0.97
00:29:22.900 Well, how about this statistic from 1960 to 2010?
00:29:26.060 In 1960, the average weight of the American woman was 140 pounds.
00:29:30.520 The average weight of the American man was about 166.
00:29:33.760 Today, those numbers have not held.
00:29:36.780 That's rough.
00:29:37.060 I regret to inform you.
00:29:38.120 140 women 1960 today weigh an average the same average that men used to weigh in 1960 of about
00:29:45.900 167 pounds and men have gone from an average of 167 to an average of 195 wow chris uh to your point
00:29:55.280 i'm thinking that's probably not mostly muscle there huh isn't that insane 30 pounds average
00:30:01.580 it's one of those things too that i think the average person believes that oh i'm i'm 230 pounds
00:30:07.880 I really only need to get to 200 to be healthy again. And then they get down to 200 and they're
00:30:13.200 like, why can't I see my six pack yet? And it's like, because you don't belong at 200, man,
00:30:17.560 you belong at, you know, 175. And they kind of look at you like, oh, I'd be too skinny at that.
00:30:21.480 It's like, well, for you to get into like a, you know, 16, 17% body fat range, like that's where
00:30:28.200 you belong. And that's where we were, we were for a long, long time. But now, you know, we've,
00:30:33.740 we've continued to kind of move the needle based on our diets and, you know,
00:30:37.640 even just culturally what's acceptable and what's not acceptable. Um, but yeah,
00:30:42.200 it's absolutely wild to, and again, you're not adding that weight in muscle mass.
00:30:48.200 You know, the, the nature of our jobs now is like, we're sitting at desks,
00:30:52.520 we're not moving. We're not, you know,
00:30:55.080 lumberjacks and things like that who are stimulating muscle mass while we're
00:30:59.000 doing our day-to-day activities. Um,
00:31:01.160 So there's just a complete disconnect of what healthy actually looks like today.
00:31:05.920 I'm curious what you think about this heuristic.
00:31:07.540 I saw this somewhere with respect to what your target weight should be as an adult man.
00:31:13.260 And it was something like you should weigh what you weighed, say, your senior year of high school, age 17, age 18, at the point where and obviously now that that is even becoming skewed because people are obese in high school.
00:31:25.080 but you can imagine if you're a young man, you were relatively active, you were doing sports in
00:31:29.560 school or whatever the case is, working with your dad on a farm, you have a high metabolism,
00:31:34.080 you're probably relatively fit. What do you think about a heuristic like that? How should we think
00:31:38.620 about the weight, the proper weight that we should be for the layman, the average man?
00:31:44.880 Yeah. I mean, the statistics are actually kind of staggering that for the average person,
00:31:50.460 if you're under six foot tall, you probably shouldn't weigh over 180 pounds. Um, and,
00:31:55.300 and that's just from a long-term health perspective, unless you are at an elite level
00:32:00.020 of muscle mass, um, you really, there's no, you have no business being over 200 pounds unless
00:32:04.820 you're, you know, six, four or six, five, six, six, but you know, really anybody under six foot
00:32:09.440 that 180 or below range, um, is, is really where you're at your healthiest. And, you know,
00:32:15.560 anything above that, like you said, if you're, you know, people call themselves, I'm pretty
00:32:20.160 thick boned, or I've got a lot of muscle mass. And it's like, but have you been working that
00:32:24.000 muscle mass for the last 20 years? If not, most of that is probably no longer muscle anymore.
00:32:30.200 But you still have that, you know, I played linebacker in high school at, you know, 195
00:32:35.280 pounds. You're probably even at 195 today, you're probably not at your healthiest, you probably even
00:32:41.480 need to be lighter than that. So yeah, I totally agree that I think that at today's, you know,
00:32:46.920 today's 45 50 year old male i think that's probably an accurate measure we'll probably
00:32:51.840 have to reevaluate that in the decades to come because yeah certainly muscle mass for the average
00:32:56.980 18 year old is something that is uh pretty hard to come by unfortunately so just get as practical
00:33:04.200 as possible can you just give us a list of like what are what are like the 10 best foods for men
00:33:10.220 right we women it's important that they eat healthy as well but we've got like over 90 percent of our
00:33:15.420 audience is men. So what are the 10 best foods that men should be eating on a regular basis?
00:33:21.120 Can you help us, Chris? Yeah. So from, if you're looking to lean down again, leveraging that
00:33:26.980 protein to calorie ratio is huge. So you want to get as much protein as you can while you're
00:33:32.260 keeping calories low. So seafoods are awesome. Shrimp, fish, tuna, things like that. Ground
00:33:38.540 beef is awesome too, because you know, I like 85, 15 or better because you can save like 200
00:33:44.220 calories just going from like 80 20 up to like 87 13 and obviously it gets leaner and leaner and
00:33:50.640 more and more protein as you continue to build from there and it's just a very versatile food
00:33:54.560 i mean you get to eat burgers you get to eat um you know taco bowls things like that um so you
00:33:59.880 can really get some really savory meals um with a lot of flexibility steak is great i'm not a huge
00:34:06.640 fan of you know things like ribeyes the carnivores aren't going to like that but um you know leaner
00:34:11.040 linear cuts sirloins and flank steaks and skirt steaks um where you get maximizing protein um i
00:34:17.620 love greek yogurt i love cottage cheese if you can handle dairy they're just they're they're well
00:34:22.260 over 40 protein both of them so you know not only can you use them for like yogurt bowls or
00:34:27.640 but they're just like things you can add to meals you know you have a small pasta dish and you throw
00:34:32.800 it on with some ground beef load some cottage cheese on there just to be able to get some
00:34:37.320 additional protein where it's like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not going to go back for that second
00:34:41.460 bowl of pasta because I've got a lot more satiety by being able to add in that cottage cheese to go
00:34:46.820 along with it. Um, and I think any quality protein source, um, I'll throw one more out there. Pork
00:34:52.660 chops are awesome. Pork is especially not talking necessarily about bacon, but like, uh, pork
00:34:57.760 tenderloin, or if, you know, you go to Costco and pick up their, their big pork loin and you can,
00:35:02.160 you know, you can feed a, you could probably create 15 meals off of a $20 pork loin. Um,
00:35:08.620 and it's like super lean. So really easy way to maximize protein. So you take any of those
00:35:13.620 and then be able to pair that with vegetables, a green of some kind, like just throw it on the
00:35:19.740 plate, get some volume in there. Um, so you're not going to two and three different carb sources
00:35:25.240 along the way. So those would be kind of my, my starters. Um, and then I guess the last thing
00:35:30.200 I'll throw in there is I think whey protein is is highly underrated as well it's it's highly
00:35:34.160 absorbed so you absorb it very very well so like for instance um you know versus like the plant
00:35:39.660 based stuff which we can get into if you guys want to a little bit but like your body actually
00:35:43.700 can use a much higher percentage of that whey protein than a standard like plant protein and
00:35:49.300 you can add that into like a simple shake or a smoothie or you throw it on top of a yogurt bowl
00:35:54.500 to be able to get, you know, 10, 15, 20 extra grams in. Um, and it's like 90% protein. So it's
00:36:00.920 basically pure protein that you're adding in keeping carbs under control. Awesome. Yeah.
00:36:05.520 Thank you for sharing. Um, so we actually, on that note, um, we picked up a brand new sponsor
00:36:11.140 just recently. It's paleo Valley. I'm curious, Chris, have you ever heard of paleo Valley?
00:36:16.700 I have, I haven't tried the beef sticks yet, but, uh, I've got some and I could send you some if
00:36:22.260 you're interested but uh what i like about it so they sent us some samples and we've been eating
00:36:26.540 them uh pretty much non-stop probably more than chris would approve of uh over the last week but
00:36:31.340 it's like yeah joel it's good for you but uh but at that quantity i don't know if it works
00:36:36.500 you're undoing all the effects but they're delicious what i like about it is uh it is
00:36:40.320 good quality but it's also a ton of different flavors so they have summer sausage they have
00:36:44.100 garlic summer sausage they have their original flavor their jalapeno flavor their teriyaki
00:36:48.700 flavor so I'm holding a bunch of the beef sticks but then this bad boy my wife they sent this as
00:36:53.300 a sample and my wife was like I know you work with other men and they have wives as well and
00:36:57.100 we want to care about them but you also need to not care about them and bring this home to me
00:37:00.740 so this is uh this is their bone broth protein and uh and from what I've read about it and a
00:37:07.120 little bit of the uh the research and I want to hear what you have to say about Chris in just a
00:37:10.540 moment but it seems like this is uh incredibly healthy and can be added to a lot of different
00:37:15.020 recipes. But for any of our listeners who do want to get a deep discount, right now, Paleo Valley
00:37:20.620 is offering with our promo code, which is NXR26, right? 2026, but it's not the 20 part. NXR26,
00:37:28.860 you can get 15%, so not just 5% or 10%, but 15% off anything in their website. But you can also,
00:37:35.800 if you want to go and see some of the items that we kind of selected, because their website is,
00:37:39.520 it's massive, and there's a ton of different things, and a lot of it appeals to women. It
00:37:43.400 It may not appeal to the men, but if you want to look at some of the more masculine items
00:37:48.800 with Paleo Valley, then you can just go to paleovalley.com forward slash NXR, right?
00:37:56.260 Is that it?
00:37:56.740 Oh, yep.
00:37:57.340 And the 26th.
00:37:57.940 And the 26th.
00:37:58.620 Yep, so paleovalley.com forward slash NXR 26.
00:38:02.840 If you go there, it'll show you all our hand-selected items, and they'll automatically, if you
00:38:07.540 use that domain, they'll automatically be discounted 15%.
00:38:10.440 But if you just want to go to their main website, which is probably what I would do, paleovalley.com, then just make sure to use the promo code on your way out, which again is NXR26.
00:38:20.900 So what do you think?
00:38:22.040 I just want to pick your brain real quick, Chris, on the bone broth protein, regardless of what company it's from.
00:38:29.080 But just as a food source, what do you think about bone broth?
00:38:33.260 Huge fan.
00:38:34.140 Yeah, I use it pretty much every day.
00:38:36.080 Um, you can, you know, some people don't love the idea of just like having a couple of bone
00:38:40.980 broth, but I think it works really well as like a, an appetite suppressant where, you
00:38:46.260 know, in the middle of the afternoon, if you're just looking to graze on something, um, you
00:38:49.880 know, you're going to get a elite protein source in my, my favorite option is in the
00:38:54.560 morning because, uh, bone broth on an empty stomach is amazing for your gut health.
00:39:00.320 And that's a big problem for a lot of people too, is, you know, the, the gut and the brain,
00:39:04.660 we call it the second brain in the gut basically so it's communicating with your brain it's uh
00:39:11.380 you know significantly involved in even like brain function and you know if you have a lot
00:39:15.980 of brain fog and inflammation even joint problems um a lot of it stems from the gut so if you can
00:39:21.740 be putting something in your gut to help basically repair the inner lining of your gut um that's
00:39:27.800 going to help keep a lot of the garbage from getting into your bloodstream and circulating
00:39:31.440 throughout your system. So doing it on an empty stomach is probably the best way to do it. But
00:39:36.840 then you can certainly use it throughout the day as, you know, something you sip on. But if you
00:39:41.200 don't like the taste, you don't like sipping on it, even adding it into things like, you know,
00:39:44.980 when you're cooking your rice or soups, things like that, you can almost mask it and, you know,
00:39:50.420 be able to continue to really take advantage of one of those foods that we just don't consume
00:39:55.240 anymore. You know, we used to consume like head to tail and use the bones to be able to create
00:40:00.040 soups and um we've sort of discarded some of the most nutrient dense uh items that you know animals
00:40:05.940 provide for us right okay so that's super helpful and uh i i couldn't eat them because we needed the
00:40:11.880 props for the show uh but now we we've we've already talked about it so i'm having a beef
00:40:15.860 steak paleo valley nxr 26 that's a promo um but what if we scratched everything we've been talking
00:40:22.700 about chris and just forget the bone broth forget the protein forget exercise all these things
00:40:26.740 and just we just just do a bunch of ozempic how do you feel about that
00:40:31.060 yeah well it's certainly what a large percentage of the population is doing right now that's for
00:40:36.340 sure um what do you think about ozempic i'm curious it's i would say it's a tool for some
00:40:43.360 that i can see the advantages of i don't like to paint with a wide brush because there are people
00:40:49.040 that are truly addicted to food and it doesn't matter what they try to do from a habit standpoint
00:40:54.420 they're not going to be able to shake it without some form of help. That said, I have a really
00:41:00.200 hard problem with the way that it's marketed, the way it's being distributed. It was designed
00:41:05.080 initially for people that had high levels of diabetes, out of control, A1C levels, things like
00:41:13.360 that, where you help improve insulin sensitivity and things like that short term. But now it's
00:41:20.060 being handed out like candy for anybody who wants to lose 20 pounds and the research is very clear
00:41:24.420 like if you don't consume enough protein and you don't lift weights you're going to end up skinny
00:41:29.580 fat or you're going to be on this drug for the rest of your life like those are your two options
00:41:33.480 so nobody is doing any kind of lifestyle work with these clients when they're coming in to hand out
00:41:40.180 the drug they're being given the drug they're being told like yeah you should eat a lot of
00:41:43.800 protein and you should try to do this but like there's no instruction on what that actually
00:41:47.560 looks like. And then come to find out that these clients are taking, you know, high doses of,
00:41:53.840 you know, Zempic and the Wagovi and things like that, where like they physically can't get in
00:41:58.520 enough protein to maintain their muscle mass because they're so like their appetite is so 0.90
00:42:03.760 suppressed. So at that point, like you're going to lose muscle and then what, you know, you're,
00:42:09.460 you're going to eventually come off of this and you're, you're metabolically going to be more
00:42:13.160 broken than you were before, which again, the nefarious side of things, that's why I think
00:42:17.960 these drugs were created in the first place is they recognize like, Hey, we have a giant customer
00:42:22.800 base sitting in America that wants a quick fix. We can offer them a quick fix. And now we have a
00:42:28.720 net, like a Netflix subscription model that these people are going to be tied to for the rest of
00:42:33.220 their life. So I think, again, there's a time and a place for that, but anybody who's considering
00:42:38.940 jumping on this or is doing it right now, you should be looking for an off-ramp to be able to
00:42:44.260 make sure that this becomes a lifestyle and not something that you're going to be dependent on
00:42:47.860 forever. You mentioned it, but that loss of muscle mass is huge. Having more muscle mass,
00:42:53.040 I think of metabolic health. So your metabolism is this base rate of calories that you burn a day.
00:42:57.900 The bulk of your calorie burn, if you ever play pickleball or go walking, you're not actually
00:43:01.580 burning thousands of calories a day on exercise. You have a basal metabolic rate that's burning
00:43:06.140 most of your calories and so one of the things that helps increase that rate meaning that food
00:43:11.340 doesn't catch up to you as fast you're burning off most of it is by having a good metabolism
00:43:15.620 and muscle requires more calories as it turns out than fat and so when you go on something like
00:43:21.460 ozempic especially if you're just trying to lose 20 pounds like men you can lose 20 pounds you do
00:43:26.440 not need ozempic to lose 20 pounds to lose 30 pounds literally walk my goodness like go for a
00:43:32.140 walk at lunch. But if you jump on something like that, like a GLP-1, you're not just losing the
00:43:37.540 fat that's going along with it. There are no trade-offs. There are no, I would say, trade-off
00:43:41.540 free compounds or anything like that in the real world. There's always going to be a trade-off.
00:43:45.940 So you will lose weight and you will lose some fat. You're also going to lose muscle. You're
00:43:50.760 going to lose the thing that helps you when you come off of it, have a metabolism that burns
00:43:55.380 through the calories that you're consuming at the end of the day. But I do appreciate you not
00:44:00.040 painting with a broad brush and saying, hey, sometimes the effects, and you can tell me
00:44:03.860 whether you agree with this or not, the effects of having a high BMI, high body fat, there comes
00:44:09.560 a point where they're so destructive that even the downsides of Ozempic, even the side effects
00:44:13.860 that come with it, they could be worth it short term because, I mean, my goodness, like having
00:44:18.680 high body fat, we're talking lifespan decrease. We're talking inability, heart risk. We're talking
00:44:24.260 inability to get active because every time you go to start moving, you injure yourself because
00:44:28.740 you're carrying along more weight and so it's not a broad brush this is always bad always a terrible
00:44:33.920 idea no positive effect to it but you're saying be very very aware that there are trade-offs i
00:44:40.440 want to hand it back to you one last time and then chris tell us where people can find you
00:44:43.720 yeah so i'm very active over on twitter at chris betcher nine uh we put out a ton of value over
00:44:50.340 there um and obviously on the on the coaching side of things um we we have resources available
00:44:56.100 full accountability things along those lines can you spell your name just for anyone listening
00:45:00.100 yeah so it's uh the last name is spelled betcher b-o-e-t-t-c-h-e-r fantastic betcher i would have
00:45:08.980 never guessed i in fact i i just i couldn't even bring myself to guess i was so intimidated by
00:45:15.520 by that last name the spelling of it that i was like i'm just gonna ask him on air how do you say
00:45:20.140 betcher bet your bottom dollar bet your bottom dollar okay um yeah that's how i found you i
00:45:24.960 found you over on X and you've got some good stuff. So we encourage our listeners to go and
00:45:28.900 check you out. Any final word that you want to leave us with, Chris? Yeah, no, I just encourage
00:45:33.760 everybody to, you know, again, use the vessel God's given you. That's ultimately what it comes
00:45:38.260 down to is, you know, put yourself in a position where as you start losing weight, as you start
00:45:42.620 making those lifestyle changes, you know, it puts you in a position to be, you know, better father,
00:45:47.080 better community leader, and just kind of pour out to those around you, which, you know, we so
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00:47:00.080 We've got some super chats over on YouTube,
00:47:01.980 but let's go ahead and start with the Rumble one first.
00:47:03.680 We're trying to build up a little bit of momentum,
00:47:05.600 some motion over on Rumble.
00:47:07.860 And you guys have been finding us.
00:47:09.380 What do we have?
00:47:09.980 I mean, we just started first week of January this year.
00:47:12.140 It's been like, what, six, seven weeks?
00:47:13.620 But what are we up to?
00:47:14.520 We started from zero, started from the bottom.
00:47:16.220 Now we're here.
00:47:17.340 4,200 subscribers.
00:47:18.500 4,200 subscribers.
00:47:19.780 That's great.
00:47:20.220 Praise God.
00:47:20.680 Okay.
00:47:21.240 So this is from JNR Doyle86.
00:47:25.580 All right.
00:47:25.840 He wrote in.
00:47:26.460 He said, last week, I asked about wanting to try and unify American Protestantism.
00:47:31.120 And then he has some follow-ups here.
00:47:32.600 He said, Tim Gordon, Timothy Gordon is a great guy.
00:47:35.060 We've had him on the show.
00:47:35.820 he mentioned Joel supporting the idea of the Nicene Creed as such a possible unifying creed.
00:47:43.840 That's true. I think in terms of the political unity that's required for a national consensus
00:47:51.500 and cohesiveness, it should be creedal rather than confessional. If it's confessional,
00:47:56.540 then I think everybody's going to be at each other's throats. But creedal, Nicene Creed,
00:48:01.020 Apostles' Creed, those kinds of things I think would suffice. And then JNR Doyle86, he further
00:48:07.240 wrote, he said, eventually I decided an agreed-upon universal creed might be best that establishes
00:48:15.000 a core of shared beliefs while leaving minor idiosyncrasies untouched for each church.
00:48:22.880 So it sounds like you eventually came to my position. God bless. And then last, he said,
00:48:27.520 as a protestant i am allergic to most things catholic but not all i get that there's some
00:48:32.980 there's some catholic things where i'm like and it's and it's tough it's tough all right so then
00:48:38.720 he furthermore he said so i asked to hear the case for this project as a possible solution to
00:48:45.580 my desired intention thank you now first and foremost i'm just gonna say um if this becomes
00:48:52.620 the new standard for super chats on rumble uh this guy he really got some bang for buck on this
00:48:57.480 one it's like one super chat three follow-up comments um just this is a multi-week conversation
00:49:02.740 too by the way he's like we're doing a whole book on this we're doing a whole series yeah
00:49:07.200 in the super chats jnr doyle uh 86 i just we appreciate you but you've got you've got to know
00:49:14.120 that this um this can never happen again we're just this is out of control this never happened
00:49:19.580 again but for today um yeah i think uh i just it's not the 1800s anymore i wish it was i really
00:49:29.080 do um but in more ways than one and yeah in so many more ways but uh the wasp uh that built
00:49:35.880 america we just have to be honest that uh that he is he has seen better days he is all but
00:49:43.160 disappeared, declining rapidly, and Catholicism is much stronger in America than it used to be.
00:49:51.160 I'm not saying it's stronger than Protestantism, but at the rate of growth, it is catching up
00:49:57.460 quickly. Now, I do think that our Catholic friends should acknowledge that a big part of that is not
00:50:02.800 necessarily conversion. There are conversions to Catholicism, so I'm not taking that away from them,
00:50:07.280 but a massive part of it is opening the floodgates. It was a heart-seller act in opening 0.96
00:50:12.140 the floodgates to third world countries and importing brown Catholics into the country. 1.00
00:50:17.860 That is what happened. 0.58
00:50:19.020 We just, we need, you know, the Catholics, there's so many things we're aligned on, but
00:50:22.740 I do need them to acknowledge that reality. 0.99
00:50:25.100 So as a Protestant, I'm over here saying, yeah, the guys on my team are insufferable 0.93
00:50:31.620 Zionist and opened the door to a bunch of Jewish supremacy in the United States that 0.87
00:50:36.880 has had us in a stranglehold. 0.97
00:50:38.220 So I've got to own that on the Protestant side, Zionism. 0.87
00:50:42.140 On the Catholic side, globalism. 0.89
00:50:44.540 But you've got to be honest about that.
00:50:46.840 That has been, yeah, the increase of Catholicism in the United States has not merely been just winning hearts and minds in conversion. 0.95
00:50:55.440 It has been importing them by the millions from third world, non-Western and non-white countries. 0.99
00:51:02.460 And I think that it has been a detriment, a net negative for the country. 1.00
00:51:07.660 So how do we align? 1.00
00:51:09.480 do we align i i think at this point there are so many catholics and so many protestants that if we
00:51:13.520 made it just it's going to be the westminster confession of faith at the national federal
00:51:17.180 level and no exceptions uh then i i i mean it's that's just a recipe for civil war honestly like
00:51:23.420 that's at this point we do not have we don't have the critical mass for that so i think it's going
00:51:29.160 to have to be a broad christian consensus creedal not confessional and um something like adopting
00:51:36.220 one of the historic creeds, but this is not, just for the record, this is not coming up with a new
00:51:40.980 creed. No, this is going back to something that's already tried and true, like the Apostles' Creed,
00:51:45.760 Nicene Creed, and probably adopting this creed as a preamble, formally adopting it as a preamble
00:51:53.600 to the Constitution. I think that that's probably what needs to happen. There's a lot of work before
00:51:57.580 we get there, a lot of symposiums and conferences and panels where Catholics and Protestants are
00:52:03.820 sitting down and having these conversations. And for all my Reformed brothers, I am of the
00:52:08.540 Protestant Reformed tradition who are cringing at like Catholics and Protestants sitting down. 1.00
00:52:13.000 Here's the deal, guys. I know it's hard. I know there are real differences and they matter and
00:52:19.560 I don't want to minimize them. But here's the deal. All these Reformed guys that you look up to,
00:52:24.720 they're all sitting down with Jews. They're doing conferences with Jews. They're at NatCon 1.00
00:52:30.340 with Jorm Hazone. They're co-authoring books with Jews. They're at TPUSA. They're sharing stages 0.89
00:52:35.800 with Nicki Minaj. And you're going to say that I can't sit down with a Catholic and have a 1.00
00:52:41.160 conversation on how to save America? Look, you're sitting down with Jews who believe that Jesus is 1.00
00:52:48.260 burning in hell, right? 1 John, you know, I understand the Reformers. I'm familiar with 0.98
00:52:53.980 John Calvin. I'm familiar with, but you just got to come to recognize, 1 John says, who is it
00:52:59.780 that is the Antichrist, but he who denies that Jesus has come in the flesh. Catholics don't do 0.80
00:53:06.040 that. Let's just be honest for a moment. On the particulars, Catholics don't deny that Jesus has 0.90
00:53:12.500 come in the flesh. Catholics don't deny the incarnation. Catholics don't deny the virgin
00:53:17.520 birth. Catholics don't deny the bodily resurrection. Catholics don't deny the ascension.
00:53:22.280 who denies that? Jews. And all these Protestant reformers who aren't even dispensationalists, 0.99
00:53:30.680 who should know better, who have adopted covenant theology and these kinds of things,
00:53:34.280 they're perfectly happy to do conference after conference after conference, podcast after 0.90
00:53:38.700 podcast, book deal after book deal with Jews. And meanwhile, these are the same guys who would 0.98
00:53:44.500 rile up some of you to think that I've somehow compromised sitting down and being willing to
00:53:50.500 have a conversation with a Catholic. You need to know this is nefarious. This is not just, 0.98
00:53:55.400 oh, it just happened to play out this way. No, no, no, no. Some high up reformed guys were bought
00:54:02.720 and you know it. You've watched it. You've seen the interviews, maybe even just in the last couple
00:54:07.880 of days. They're bought, they're paid for, and they're trying to poison the well against guys
00:54:15.000 like me, but it's very clear that it's manipulation. So all that being said, if we're going to win the
00:54:23.060 nation, it's going to have to be a broad Christian alliance, a broad Christian alliance. And Reformed
00:54:29.100 guys, we have serious theological differences with Catholics, but you know what? Those debates,
00:54:35.740 as important as they are, they are the luxury of winning. We've got to win the country, and then we
00:54:40.700 will have those debates. But in a political and cultural realm, I think there needs to be a
00:54:46.280 co-belligerency. And anybody who's trying to shoot that down, while in the same breath,
00:54:52.100 doing the exact same co-belligerent strategy with Jews, you know that person is bought and paid for. 0.65
00:54:58.360 That person is being dishonest. There is no such thing as that level of stupidity. 1.00
00:55:03.380 That, that is not stupid. That is malicious. That person knows what they're doing. 1.00
00:55:08.380 And he's mentioning this too in the realm of politics. So in addition to the constitution
00:55:12.720 preamble, remember politics is friend and enemy. And so if you're coming off of the 30 years war,
00:55:18.720 for example, and Protestants and Catholics, for one, those are the only two religions with any
00:55:22.420 semblance of adherence in Europe. And you have England with the Protestants and you have Catholics
00:55:27.460 and the Hasberg dynasty and everything here. Yeah, there's a real sense in which politically
00:55:30.960 they threatened one another's way of life. I mean, there's entire Protestant towns destroyed in the
00:55:35.820 Thirty Years' War. And then Protestants came back, 1.00
00:55:37.940 and they went to war, and they took over Catholic 0.98
00:55:39.800 towns. So in that time, friend, enemy,
00:55:41.880 who threatens my way of life? Catholics 1.00
00:55:43.840 distinctly threaten Protestants. Protestants 1.00
00:55:45.920 distinctly threatened Catholics. 0.98
00:55:47.760 Today, in the year of our Lord, 2026, 1.00
00:55:50.120 do Catholics threaten the way 1.00
00:55:51.760 of life of Protestants? They don't.
00:55:53.700 Jews do. Muslims do. Hindus do. 1.00
00:55:56.080 Indians do. Atheists do. 1.00
00:55:58.100 Atheists do. Well, atheists don't matter. 1.00
00:56:00.120 They're so insignificant and so small. 1.00
00:56:01.900 At this point, I feel...
00:56:03.520 I'm thinking of the... 1.00
00:56:04.960 I'm thinking of all the trans shooters. 1.00
00:56:07.860 That's true. 1.00
00:56:08.820 That's actually a religion called Satanism, I would argue. 0.99
00:56:13.020 And you already covered Judaism. 0.93
00:56:15.840 The founder of the Church of Satan was Jewish ethnically. 1.00
00:56:20.160 All of those religions threaten my way of life. 1.00
00:56:23.020 Catholicism right now in this time, and that wasn't always the case, it doesn't. 0.97
00:56:27.200 And so politically friend-enemy, I take the friends.
00:56:30.520 Not to the same degree, not for the foreseeable future.
00:56:32.940 So friend-enemy, here's a group that's friends, even though we would not share a church together.
00:56:37.220 None of what we talked about just now said, and so we should be inviting one another to
00:56:41.640 our churches, and I should be pulpit supply for the local Catholic parish, and we'd love
00:56:44.980 to have a priest.
00:56:45.900 Never said that.
00:56:46.620 That's the spiritual realm.
00:56:48.960 Politically, hey, we have a lot in common against a shared common enemy, and that's
00:56:53.360 politics.
00:56:53.900 That's right.
00:56:54.220 So outside of Protestant and Catholic, when you look at Muslim, Jewish, secular, all these 1.00
00:56:59.580 for the Hindu, much more of a threat to our way of life than Catholics are to Protestants or 1.00
00:57:06.880 Protestants are to Catholics. I would say that the only real serious, and again, not spiritually 0.99
00:57:11.980 speaking, not theologically, but politically and culturally, the main threat that Protestants pose 0.83
00:57:16.640 to Catholics is that Protestants are doing everything they can on almost like a 24-7 basis. 0.78
00:57:23.640 I mean, they're waking up with like dreams in the night, cold sweat, thinking, how can I give 0.75
00:57:28.380 away more cultural and political power to Jews. So on the Protestant side, we actually are a
00:57:34.040 threat to Catholics, because Catholics that live here in America, but not at the same degree. My 0.88
00:57:39.080 point is as Jews, Muslims, Hindus, secular atheists. But still, Protestants, I would say the main threat 1.00
00:57:44.700 that we pose to Catholics here in America is that we really do open up the door for Jewish influence. 0.99
00:57:51.180 And I'm not just being silly or trying to be base or something like that. I mean that we are 0.64
00:57:55.560 constantly giving away political and cultural capital to individuals, not necessarily every
00:58:01.880 single one of them, but to individuals in our country who are beholden, first and foremost,
00:58:06.340 their allegiance lies with a foreign nation rather than ours. That is a liability. And then
00:58:11.360 on the flip side, right, I'm not just going to pick on the Protestants, the Catholics, how are
00:58:15.560 they, again, not spiritually, theologically, but in the cultural political realm, a great ally,
00:58:21.440 but what's their Achilles heel? How do they threaten Protestants? They opened the door
00:58:27.220 to, they're like, which country right now, quick search, which country in the world has the lowest
00:58:33.700 GDP, the lowest education, zero literacy, the most diseases, bring them in. Like Catholics, 1.00
00:58:41.540 it is immigration. Protestants, it is Zionism. That's just kind of the way it is. Catholicism 0.99
00:58:47.860 is brown. Protestantism is Jewish. And we just both need to recognize our Achilles heels and 0.99
00:58:56.180 the ways that we've failed and maybe stop, maybe stop doing that. But we need to, all that being
00:59:02.600 said, we need to recognize in terms of degrees of threat, the threat is still, as bad as those 0.99
00:59:08.960 weaknesses are, the threat is still exponentially greater from Jews, Muslims, Hindus, secular
00:59:15.920 atheist right like surely we can agree okay over on youtube dakota davis said dominion wealth is
00:59:23.760 very helpful on this topic the topic of health awesome keep going let's do all dakota davis
00:59:29.160 all right all dakota davis he sent in two more he said uh what are thoughts on things like white
00:59:35.540 monsters so white monster energy drink uh i mean the fuel of just the new christian right i gotta
00:59:40.760 say there's there's some good energy drinks out there there's a need for more there's a need for
00:59:45.020 more. But white monster in particular, one of the things I love about it, very low calorie.
00:59:50.540 The calories in a full sugar monster, I think it's over 200, like your green monster. And that is
00:59:56.500 just sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar. Whereas something like a white monster, your sweetness in it comes
01:00:02.120 from sucralose. Sucralose is 600 times more potent of a sweetener than sugar. And so you have high
01:00:09.360 fructose corn syrup because the United States government subsidizes corn production and they're
01:00:13.680 able to extract the fructose and use that to sweeten your drinks. Downside, it's super high
01:00:18.540 calorie. White Monsters, your Red Bull Zero, Red Bull Sugar-Free, your Celsius, this is another
01:00:24.660 big one, they don't have all the calories in them that are, to be honest, they're making you fat.
01:00:30.800 They're building up, there's lots of sugar. So I like that part of them. The ingredients themselves,
01:00:35.680 most of them in high amounts, they're not great for you. Earthatol, sucralose, yeah, like don't
01:00:41.120 have a lot of them. But practically speaking, when it comes to, well, I could have this that
01:00:45.320 has 200 calories in it, and it's full of sugar. And I could have this that has an artificial
01:00:49.180 sweetener in it. Now, granted, it's like a 600th of the amount, but it's still not great.
01:00:54.020 The trade-off between the two of those, one wins hands down. Same thing with Diet Coke. Like,
01:00:59.460 yeah, there's some things in your aspartame. Yeah, if you're allergic to aspartame, don't have it.
01:01:03.460 But is it way better to have that than a, I think, Diet, what is regular Coke? 50,
01:01:08.720 60 grams of sugar the trade-off is very clear so the ideal is probably something like coffee the
01:01:15.280 ideal is something probably like organic urban mate which is a tea that has caffeine in it
01:01:19.740 those things are great but honestly not that far away is your white monster your red bull zero 0.93
01:01:24.420 don't drink a ton of them you know do coffee and do one of those a day but i would take that
01:01:29.320 far and above a full sugar energy drink i can even make it simpler than that i would just say 1.00
01:01:33.780 White monsters are for white monsters 0.99
01:01:36.120 Original monsters are for Satanists 1.00
01:01:38.680 There you have it
01:01:39.260 Last one from Dakota Davis
01:01:42.080 Real quick, he said
01:01:42.840 Are y'all observing Lent? Why or why not?
01:01:45.420 I'll go first, I'll keep it brief
01:01:46.480 Nope
01:01:48.000 I don't think there's something bad to saying
01:01:50.500 I'm going to take these two months and get off social media
01:01:52.460 Totally, I think it's a great practice
01:01:54.600 And you have the freedom to observe it
01:01:57.700 Exactly, Godspeed to anybody
01:01:59.100 Who wants to do that
01:02:00.360 But we are Protestant
01:02:03.040 and unashamedly so and we love our tradition and we actually do fast from whether it be you know
01:02:10.740 fast from food or fasting certain vices or things like that on a regular basis but we we do not
01:02:18.140 observe lint we're going to start right now we're going to end right then but the practice itself
01:02:23.600 i think it could be a really helpful practice but we are not catholic okay uh last one can you read
01:02:28.640 it, Antonio? Yep. The Edrow Whistle sent
01:02:30.760 $2 and says SCOTUS has
01:02:32.620 just scuttled the entire plan.
01:02:34.640 Tariffs. It's over. It's over.
01:02:36.920 Yeah, it's true.
01:02:38.900 Go invest now. No, seriously.
01:02:40.500 Great time to get in the stock market.
01:02:42.400 And honestly, you probably need to
01:02:44.360 because you're going to need to make some kind of
01:02:46.600 profit to be able
01:02:48.680 to build wealth as a hedge against
01:02:50.580 the country that your children... Hey, if
01:02:52.600 they're selling out your country, at least profit from it.
01:02:54.660 No, seriously, though. Yeah, if your country
01:02:56.900 is being sold out
01:02:58.640 by the Supreme Court, because Congress is never going to do it. If that's happening,
01:03:04.140 then you better, you not only might as well, you better profit on it so that your kids have a hope
01:03:10.420 and a future. And then you need to leave and try to, I don't know, try to live in Japan, 0.98
01:03:14.640 maybe El Salvador, maybe Hungary. I don't know. I would just say this too quickly. I'm no
01:03:19.780 constitutional scholar, but I do think there's an argument where you could probably derive from
01:03:24.020 article one, that it is a legislative function to enact tariffs, taxes, tariffs, levies, all of
01:03:29.220 these things are technically within the remit of congressional authority. And so a president
01:03:33.360 actually taking executive authority to, I mean, you can, in a very strict, narrow sense of the
01:03:39.660 law, you can make a case that the president should not be enacting tariffs. And so I'm not in all
01:03:44.760 too fuss about it, but we all recognize that in order to save the country, we're going to need
01:03:49.780 broader executive authority. Congress has just stalemated every which way. Last four years,
01:03:54.460 they passed virtually nothing outside of appropriations bills. So on one hand, as an
01:03:59.820 American, you can say it, me, Constitution, and say it probably makes sense. On the other hand,
01:04:04.540 you're like, yep, my country's actively being sold out. And like you said, Joel, the least I can do
01:04:08.940 is try to make a gain from it. Yep. Last one. God is good, and I am a monkey. He said,
01:04:15.040 health as a tool for furthering God's glory, not reaching transhumanist immortality via
01:04:20.660 artificial wombs and other horrors will be an ongoing ideological battle. Good to see you guys
01:04:26.440 with NXR Studios engaging with this topic. All right, that is it. We are signing off.
01:04:31.280 God bless and Godspeed.
01:04:45.040 We'll be right back.