The NXR Podcast - ⁠NXR Livestream - ⁠The 4 Pillars For Christian Nationalism

00:00:00.000 It's official, guys. American politics is irredeemable. You have gay Jews, that's the

00:00:06.460 left, and war Jews, that's the right. These are your choices. It's not merely the lesser of two 1.00

00:00:12.760 evils. At this point, I have been looking at this, analyzing it for quite some time, and I cannot

00:00:19.140 tell you, as God is my witness, which of the two evils are more evil. There's not even a clear

00:00:25.040 choice. Of course, there hasn't been a good choice for decades, but there's not even a clear

00:00:29.580 distinguishable choice of a lesser evil at this point when people say no joel you're being 0.94

00:00:35.700 hyperbolic that's ridiculous you're the woke right uh the left still wants to trans your kids 0.92

00:00:41.040 at least you know republicans and the gop doesn't want to do that yeah but republicans want to send 0.99

00:00:46.160 my son to die in the middle east and bleed out for israel so one group wants to chop off my son's 1.00

00:00:52.840 genitals. The other group wants to send my son to die for Israel in the Middle East, bleeding out 1.00

00:00:59.960 in the sand, being forgotten. They're both pretty bad. They're both pretty bad. And I'm hard-pressed 0.88

00:01:07.380 to say which one at this point is worse. And so the lesser of two evils, that kind of voting,

00:01:13.400 I've done that. I've done that. I'm not sitting here saying I'm above it all. I voted GOP my

00:01:19.060 entire adult life, okay? So that's who you're talking to, okay? I am perfectly aware. But I'm

00:01:25.620 saying that moving forward, I'm not going to do that anymore. And there are not just a couple of

00:01:32.020 us, but there are literally tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, arguably even a few million

00:01:38.540 young people, especially young men under the age of 45 who are not going to be engaging. They're

00:01:46.300 opting out of the rat race of American politics. If you don't put forward one party, whether it's

00:01:53.320 the DNC or the GOP, if a party does not put forward a candidate who is clearly better than

00:02:00.060 the other side, then younger men are not going to turn out to vote. And so some people are saying

00:02:08.280 we need a new party. Elon Musk came out, you know, a few months ago and said, I'm going to start a

00:02:12.560 third party, the American party. I'll be honest. I'm just going to shoot you straight. I think that

00:02:16.700 that's retarded. I don't think that's going to work. That's just not the way it is in America. 1.00

00:02:21.680 In principle, great. In practice, it's a pipe dream. It's not going to happen. The reality is

00:02:27.880 that we are going to have to infiltrate and take one of the two parties. My advice, my counsel,

00:02:34.860 is that it would be the GOP, that we would take over, in time, the Republican party. In the

00:02:40.480 meantime, many young men as a political strategy are going to be boycotting their vote. They're

00:02:46.800 going to be saying, GOP, we're taking over. And until you allow us and our guys to run on the GOP

00:02:54.740 platform, you will not get our vote and you will lose every single election from here on out until 0.98

00:03:00.800 you repent and the boomers retire from politics and just go live out your life and allow us to 0.87

00:03:08.820 take the reins. That's what's going on. So what is this new political platform that the GOP needs 1.00

00:03:17.480 to represent, that it needs to be? And we've thought about this long and hard, and we want to

00:03:24.200 be as clear as we possibly can, but also as simple as we possibly can, not overcomplicating it.

00:03:30.780 There's a million things that I would like to see, right? Every organization, every movement,

00:03:36.560 every political party, every business, every church, every entity has literally hundreds

00:03:43.360 of values, things that they value. There's a lot of things to value, valuing family,

00:03:48.440 valuing children, valuing education, valuing wealth, a million things that you can value.

00:03:55.340 But what sets something apart, the distinctives are not the values, the distinctives are the

00:04:01.460 priorities. And the reality is if you prioritize all of your values, then you've prioritized

00:04:06.980 nothing, right? It's like, I remember being a teenager and reading the Bible with a highlighter

00:04:12.840 and saying, that's a great verse and highlighting it. You know, I'm not necessarily endorsing

00:04:18.880 writing in your Bible, but it's something I did when I was younger is that's a great verse and

00:04:22.520 highlight it. Oh, that's another great verse highlighted. And then, you know, you finish

00:04:25.720 reading the gospel of John and every single verse in the entire book is highlighted, which helps

00:04:31.260 you how, it doesn't help you at all. Now you just got a scribbled on Bible, but you've highlighted

00:04:38.520 the entire book, every single verse that there is. So you've distinguished nothing, you've prioritized

00:04:44.000 nothing. So I'm going to talk not about values. This is not going to be exhaustive, all the

00:04:49.500 hundreds or even arguably thousands of values that we would like to see, but the distinctives,

00:04:55.080 meaning which of these values are we going to intentionally prioritize? You have to prioritize

00:05:01.920 something because if you prioritize everything, then you've prioritized nothing. That's basically

00:05:07.080 how it goes. So what are we expecting? What kind of political entity, what priorities do we expect

00:05:14.540 to see if young men are going to turn out and vote? This is what we expect to see, the four 0.97

00:05:21.860 pillars. This is language that is kind of in backroom chats that has not been really made

00:05:30.260 public. It's not trending on X, but it will. You will see this. The four pillars. What are the four

00:05:38.840 pillars of an American first, Christ is King, Christian nationalist political movement? The

00:05:45.980 four pillars are as follows. Christ explicitly, publicly, unapologetically. It's Christian

00:05:53.660 nationalism. It's Christian. It must be Christian. It's not the pagan right. Some of those guys may

00:05:59.640 turn out to vote, but it's not going to be that. It's going to be Christian, unapologetically. 0.99

00:06:04.600 So Christian nationalism. Number two, it's going to be patriarchal. It's going to be male-led. 0.92

00:06:11.600 it's going to be masculine it's not going to be feminism and i'll come back and i'll kind of

00:06:17.180 tear that apart a little bit and explain third uh it's going to be race realism no more of this

00:06:25.240 blank slate ism everybody is the same race is a social construct it doesn't even exist

00:06:30.880 oh it's not race you know it's just culture no um people are different god did not make uh a

00:06:38.140 a egalitarian world of androgyny where everybody is just exactly the same fungible widgets that can

00:06:48.220 be moved around and you know transferred over here everything is replaceable everyone is 1.00

00:06:55.820 replaceable no Haitians should not be in America because not only do they not have our culture but 1.00

00:07:04.520 they're not our people. They're not our people. And Haitians need to fix their own country. 1.00

00:07:10.480 If sending Haitians back to Haiti is a death sentence to those Haitians going back to a 1.00

00:07:16.980 hellhole, then sending Haitians to America is a death sentence for us. They need to stay in their 1.00

00:07:24.260 own country and fix their own problems. They are not our people. That doesn't mean that we hate 1.00

00:07:29.480 anyone. It doesn't require any kind of aversion. It doesn't require a heart posture of hostility

00:07:36.960 towards other peoples, but it does require a recognition, a recognition that different peoples

00:07:43.840 are precisely that. They are different. God made a world with distinctions. It's not androgyny.

00:07:51.280 There are distinctions. Different people are different and Haitians are not American and 1.00

00:07:56.660 they never will be they never will be it's not just well you know if we are on the magic soil 1.00

00:08:02.420 and if we sign the paperwork and get citizenship and say the magic words and all of a sudden we

00:08:07.500 you know we say we appreciate Thomas Jefferson and we celebrate the fourth of July then we're

00:08:11.820 just American just as American as anyone else no that's not the way it works people are real

00:08:17.640 peoples are real. Blank slate-ism is a lie. Last one is being awake when it comes to Israel.

00:08:29.040 J-PIL, if you want to use that term, being aware that Israel is not our greatest ally, 0.94

00:08:36.220 that Israel is a millstone around the neck of America dragging us down and has been 0.95

00:08:41.700 for decades. And there is an unapologetic, uncompromising commitment to detangle 0.99

00:08:48.620 America from the nation state of Israel and to be aware of these problems. So what is required 0.60

00:08:56.280 to participate in this movement? What's required is that you are Christian or you are at least 0.71

00:09:04.020 Christian friendly. You are not hostile to Christianity and not just Christianity as

00:09:09.740 privately practiced by individual citizens in america a private personal faith now you have

00:09:15.920 to be someone who is either explicitly christian yourself or is comfortable and sees the universal

00:09:22.920 good the national good of america being a christian country so even if you are not christian

00:09:28.760 yourself you're still recognizing yep america was founded as a christian country it should remain a

00:09:34.640 Christian country. Christianity as a public-facing religion explicitly and publicly in America is a

00:09:43.060 good thing, and it must be restored. Christian nationalism. That's number one. Number two,

00:09:50.080 biblical patriarchy, masculine, male-led. There's going to be a sliding spectrum on all these

00:09:56.520 things, okay? So with this one, masculinity, you guys, many of you, if you've heard me before,

00:10:03.020 You're aware of my positions. I think that the 19th Amendment should be repealed. I think it's

00:10:09.400 one of the biggest mistakes that America has made. We wouldn't have had one Democrat president in the 0.74

00:10:14.000 last 50 years if women couldn't vote. This is not misogyny, hating women in the same way that race 1.00

00:10:19.780 realism, I'll go back to that one in a moment, is not hating other peoples, but just recognizing a

00:10:25.580 distinction between different peoples. Same thing when it comes to this patriarchy piece. It's not

00:10:32.940 misogyny, hating women, but it is sexism, right? People say, you're a misogynist. And I'll say, 1.00

00:10:38.220 no, I'm not. I'm a sexist. I believe that the sexes are different. I believe that women are

00:10:43.580 wonderful in their role. But I believe that when women are leading the way and replacing men as

00:10:52.960 Congresswomen, as politicians, and even in the voting booth, that they ultimately destroy the 1.00

00:11:00.100 national fabric. So it's not that we hate women or that we're trying to disparage women, but we're

00:11:05.040 saying that women are not suited for politics. They're simply not. That's not the way that God 0.98

00:11:09.360 wired women. Mentally, psychologically, spiritually, women are not suited for politics. And because we 1.00

00:11:16.440 love women, we don't want to see them raped and murdered by foreigners. And so because we want 1.00

00:11:23.560 to protect women, we must say, women, you need to be protected. We love you. We care for you.

00:11:31.120 We want you to flourish. And because of that, you're not allowed to drive the car anymore.

00:11:36.000 Because when you're behind the wheel, you vote for your murder. You vote for your rape. You vote 1.00

00:11:44.600 for your replacement. You vote to murder your own children and the extinction of European peoples. 1.00

00:11:52.300 You're simply in the political realm, you are a liability because you weren't designed by God 0.55

00:11:58.320 to function in that realm. Now again, sliding scale. So I am a 19th amendment disrespecter.

00:12:05.560 Not everybody on the team is going to go as far as I go. I get that. But here's still the general

00:12:11.120 sentiment to be on the team, right? Christian, you at least need to recognize, even if you yourself

00:12:16.900 are not a Christian, you need to recognize that America is a Christian nation and that that's a

00:12:20.540 positive good, a general positive good for it to be publicly and nationally Christian, all right? 0.59

00:12:26.880 Second, with the patriarchy male-led, you need to recognize, you might say, oh, I think women should

00:12:31.680 still be allowed to vote, or I think that women can hold office. I would vehemently disagree with

00:12:37.820 you, but you could still be in the same party, on the same general side of the aisle, saying, yeah,

00:12:44.620 but I at least acknowledge that men should be leading the way. And so we are going to be

00:12:51.280 actively looking for opportunities at conferences and political, you know, campaigns and races,

00:12:58.500 candidates, all these kinds of things to put up front, to prioritize young men, men, masculine,

00:13:07.780 women um ambitious courageous men so you might be someone who's of the persuasion that well i think

00:13:15.560 that women you know they should still be allowed to vote or this that or the other or joel i don't

00:13:19.720 think that all women you know should be necessarily mothers and homemakers well you still at least

00:13:24.800 generally have to agree that men and leadership is better and that that's what will be emphasized

00:13:30.520 and prioritized. That when in doubt, you got a blonde boss babe in a pantsuit, and you've got 0.87

00:13:38.760 a man. When in doubt, all things being equal, they're both pro-life, they're both against 0.99

00:13:44.820 immigration, all these kinds of things. If all things are equal, that you agree that the man

00:13:50.440 should take the spot of leadership, that he should have our vote over the woman. If you're at least 1.00

00:13:57.000 there, then you can play the game. You can be on the team. Race realism. I'm going to say it another

00:14:03.320 way. It's not just a recognition that different people are precisely that, different distinctions,

00:14:09.700 a rejection of egalitarianism, a rejection of racial androgyny, a rejection of blank slate-ism

00:14:17.100 and fungible widgets that can just replace one another. It's not only that, but in addition,

00:14:22.160 to be just a little bit more specific. It is being unapologetically pro-white. And that doesn't mean 0.84

00:14:28.340 that you're pro-white universally. So it's not saying, hey, if I lived in Uganda, I would be

00:14:37.800 pro-white for Uganda. Uganda should be a white country. Uganda should have white leaders. No, 1.00

00:14:42.800 it's saying we're pro-white because it's America. And just a few decades ago, in the early 1900s,

00:14:49.880 as recent as 1920, America was 90% white, European. In 1950, we were like 80 to 85% 0.54

00:15:00.120 white, European. It's not until the Hart Seller Act and the nation being hoodwinked to take on 0.61

00:15:08.100 all of these immigrants from third world countries that the demographics began to 0.99

00:15:13.480 massively shift in America. So you're saying, no, pro-white, not in any context, but in our

00:15:20.380 context. This is a, in the same way that America was founded as a Christian nation and therefore

00:15:25.480 should return unapologetically, it was founded as a white nation. Now, this doesn't mean that 0.92

00:15:31.020 people who have been here for generations, this doesn't mean that Clarence Thomas is going to

00:15:36.940 be deported, right? I'm not, we're not being retarded. This is real political party that is

00:15:42.980 going to win. And so we're being reasonable and realistic. We're not saying that heritage blacks

00:15:51.380 have to go back. We're not saying that heritage Hispanics, right? There were some Mexicans who 0.98

00:15:56.860 fought with us in the Alamo. I'm here in Texas, right? There's such a thing as heritage Hispanics.

00:16:03.400 There are heritage blacks, right? There are a few different groups. We know who they are. We

00:16:08.880 understand this but we're talking about people who have come in the last 15 minutes we're

00:16:13.580 predominantly talking about those who have come post heart seller act and have no european ties

00:16:19.500 and no heritage historical ties to america's origin whatsoever we're talking about america

00:16:27.940 after it's settled right because we had settlers and then at a certain point the country is now

00:16:33.280 settled and then you just have immigrants they're just coming for a better way of life

00:16:37.640 they're coming for a handout or they're coming for an opportunity they're not coming for sacrifice 0.96

00:16:42.880 they're not coming to build something that's different and so what we're talking about in

00:16:48.640 america being um recognizing race realist not just saying race is a social construct it's just

00:16:55.200 culture no biology is real different peoples are real at an ontological biological level yes

00:17:01.720 culture of course is real but it's not just culture it's also the people themselves some

00:17:07.480 people are conducive to america some people are not we're going to recognize that without apology

00:17:13.160 without disparaging or hating anyone but absolutely committing to prioritize and love

00:17:19.240 our own people natural affections we prioritize and love esteem our own and so recognizing that

00:17:27.520 And in that saying, because of our context, because America, just in the same way it was

00:17:32.600 founded as a Christian nation, it should remain so. It was also founded, not exclusively,

00:17:37.760 but predominantly as a white nation. And therefore it should remain. We should be working towards, 0.98

00:17:44.660 thinking politically towards, deliberate and unapologetic. We should be able to say it out

00:17:49.680 without blushing we want america to remain a majority white nation it's not exclusive 0.73

00:17:56.600 it's not wronging anyone who's been here for 400 years or even 150 years or 200 years but it's 0.52

00:18:03.500 saying people who have come since america was betrayed with the heart seller act and that's

00:18:09.340 what it was it was a betrayal those people who have come in afterwards after traitors intentionally

00:18:15.820 sought to weaken the nation it is not morally wrong for us to say we're going to seek to undo

00:18:23.400 those who sought to destroy the nation and so for these individuals who have come not in the last

00:18:30.320 150 years but in the last 50 years give or take for these individuals many of them if not most

00:18:38.080 are going to have to go back those who have been here for 50 years and never sought citizenship

00:18:44.020 i think of vivek ramaswamy's dad 30 years and never never took the time to become a citizen

00:18:50.360 of the country that supposedly his son vivek loves vivek was an anchor baby literally born as an

00:18:57.580 anchor baby in ohio and all of a sudden is the most american person that there's ever been his

00:19:04.080 own father in america for 30 something years and doesn't love the country enough doesn't care about

00:19:09.780 the country enough to take the time to attain his own citizenship here in the country that his son

00:19:16.460 was running for president in, and then a year later running for a governor of Ohio? No. Vivek

00:19:24.940 Ramaswamy's dad should be deported, right? So looking at people who've come since Heart Cellar,

00:19:30.760 the last 50 years, and looking at those, recognizing many of them, if not most, have to go

00:19:36.380 back, there will be some exceptions. This person has contributed. This person has actually

00:19:40.560 assimilated, right? This person has attained citizenship, has a fidelity, a loyalty, a love

00:19:46.820 for our country. There may be some exceptions, but for the most part, there are many people

00:19:51.700 who have not attained citizenship, have not assimilated, barely speak English, although

00:19:57.600 they've been here 30, 40 years. These people have to go back. They're not American, and they have 1.00

00:20:03.820 proven that they never will be we are a anglo predominantly but more broadly european settled

00:20:13.240 country and that should be primarily predominantly the makeup of the demographic here in america

00:20:21.200 it is a race realist pro-white country that's what it must be and then lastly we must be aware 0.88

00:20:29.180 the J-pilled fourth pillar, we must be aware that Israel has been a net negative massively 0.89

00:20:35.520 on America ever since its founding. For 50, 60, 70 years now, Israel, our greatest ally,

00:20:44.400 it's a one-way street. We give them our soldiers, our sons to die. We give them our taxes. We give 0.91

00:20:50.000 them our military arsenals and all these different things. And they provide nothing for us. And

00:20:54.940 arguably not only do they not contribute to america but they actually betray us right so

00:21:01.520 this is not a good partnership it must end they have to fight their own wars and if they do

00:21:08.940 something that's directly against americans in uh americans interest then they may actually have

00:21:14.720 to fight us no you you must stop causing chaos in the middle east well we're not going to stop 0.96

00:21:21.080 We're going to keep bombing Lebanon, even though it's 40% Christian. 1.00

00:21:24.140 And now we've set our sights on Turkey. 1.00

00:21:26.020 And now we've, oh, OK, so not only are we going to detangle, but we actually are now 0.97

00:21:30.640 going to fight you.

00:21:32.160 You continue to do things, commit genocide in the Middle East, glassing entire peoples 0.65

00:21:39.380 and disrupting, causing chaos and disorder that hurts Americans' interests.

00:21:45.900 Well, not only do you not get to be our greatest ally, but you've proven yourself to be an

00:21:50.200 enemy.

00:21:50.440 and so we will treat you militarily as an enemy if that's the way you behave and hopefully they

00:21:56.760 choose not to these are the four pillars christian nationalism male-led masculine patriarchy race

00:22:05.960 realist and in american context given our history and even currently still being barely but barely 0.85

00:22:12.960 a white majority country pro-white and then fourth j-pilled aware that israel is a massive problem 0.66

00:22:20.320 and that they have behaved themselves, not only as not our greatest ally, but as one of our most 0.95

00:22:27.940 pernicious enemies. That's the lay of the land. That's the lay of the land. Obviously, with the

00:22:34.860 race realist, pro-white, piece of the puzzle, you could have guys who are saying, well, I just think

00:22:40.240 that people over the last nine years should be deported. Those who have come more recently,

00:22:49.500 since the beginning of the auto pin administration with Joe Biden, you know, and the borders are

00:22:55.000 Kamala Harris. Okay. Um, you can be on the team. All right. Others will say, no, I think we should

00:23:00.560 go back to heart sell it. All right. You can be on the team. Um, others would say, well, I think

00:23:05.820 this person gets to stay like there's room here, but the general premise is yeah. Um, white people

00:23:12.060 are not terrible. They're not bad. They're not inherently evil. And that is the makeup of our 0.58

00:23:17.780 country. Certainly, it's the founding of our country. It should continue. It should be preserved.

00:23:22.960 And we're not just putting the woke away. We're not just getting rid of DEI. No, we need to

00:23:28.840 undo the Heart Seller Act, and we need to also undo Civil Rights Act. Civil rights is blatantly, 0.98

00:23:36.020 it empowers everyone except for white people. Therefore, it's not a, we're going to help out 0.75

00:23:40.400 black people. No, because it also helps out Hispanics, and it helps out, and now the civil

00:23:44.680 rights has been used as a foot in the door to help out LGBT, LMNOP, mafia people. Civil rights 0.83

00:23:53.660 helps everyone, everyone except for white people. So it's actually not a helping policy to prioritize

00:24:00.120 someone. It's actually when you're helping everyone except for one group, it's a discriminating,

00:24:04.600 oppressive policy. Civil rights, you need to see it as being synonymous with an anti-white 0.89

00:24:09.880 legislation. That's what civil rights is. It's not pro-black. It's anti-white. Civil rights is 0.58

00:24:16.000 a sinister, evil piece of legislation that was designed, or at least has been hijacked since, 0.99

00:24:24.380 to destroy white people. So this pro-white race realist piece, that third pillar in the four 0.97

00:24:30.740 pillars, it means heart seller has to go, civil rights have to go, and millions of people need 0.62

00:24:37.460 to be deported, at least stretching back to Heart Cellar Act, or at least even in the last eight

00:24:43.320 years. Millions of people have to go back, and these two pieces of legislation, Civil Rights Act,

00:24:49.040 Heart Cellar Act, have to be undone. The Israel piece, some people are going to say, ah, I think

00:24:54.620 it's more than just the nation state. I think it's more than just Israeli government, more than just

00:24:59.260 Netanyahu. I think there's also a problem with just Jewish influence, even for those who are 0.65

00:25:04.160 american citizens and don't even have citizenship in israel they've never even been to israel they've 0.92

00:25:09.400 never kissed the wall but they still you know jewish billionaires who are american citizens 0.50

00:25:14.400 i think that's still a problem that guy can be on the team he's going further but he's still in 0.95

00:25:19.320 bounds somebody else is going to take a lighter view in other words on this fourth pillar it

00:25:25.660 would include all the way to nick fuentes or maybe a softer version of a tucker carlson

00:25:30.480 right you need broad tent it includes all both of those those bookends and everything

00:25:37.120 in between okay that's the fourth pillar i've already explained the pro-white race realist one

00:25:41.860 explain now the j pill israel one i've already explained the patriarchy one male-led some people

00:25:48.900 they're going to say we got to repeal the 19th amendment other people are going to say that's

00:25:52.580 never going to happen it's not reasonable but we should at least prioritize men when all things are 0.52

00:25:57.280 equal, the man gets the job. The man gets the political position. The man gets to speak at the

00:26:02.880 conference. The man gets put forward, not the woman. We're no longer going to disparage men 0.59

00:26:08.860 and replace them and pass them over, whether it be in politics or whether it be in culture 0.98

00:26:15.940 or whether it be in economics and in the business world, vocation, job for a woman just because she

00:26:23.240 is a woman if anything we're going to prioritize the man that if all things are equal right now

00:26:28.800 what we're coming off of is if you got a man who has twice the qualifications of a woman

00:26:34.180 the woman would still get the position just by virtue of being a woman what i'm saying is that 0.78

00:26:38.900 if all things are equal this is the minimum bar you know i want to go further but this is the 0.84

00:26:44.740 minimum bar the minimum bar is if all things are equal we default to the man because in the same

00:26:52.480 way that we're going to be pro-white, we're also going to be pro-men. Pro-men in public positions

00:26:58.540 in society. That's the workplace, that's politics, the whole gambit. We're going to be pro-men because

00:27:04.080 it must be male-led because God has intentionally and specifically designed men to function in the 0.98

00:27:11.440 public square in such a way that is good for the nation, generally speaking. Of course, there are 0.72

00:27:16.520 bad men, and of course, there are great women. But generally speaking, men are better at politics,

00:27:21.580 they're better at business they're better at these public facing positions than women are

00:27:26.540 and then the christian nationalism piece again like well i don't know if i'm a christian okay

00:27:32.100 are you hostile to christianity no do you think christianity should be treated like every other

00:27:38.380 religion in america oh well freedom of religion you know everyone can be religious whether it's

00:27:43.800 hinduism or islam or judaism or christianity but keep it personal keep it private keep it in your

00:27:49.900 home you're not on the team now to be on the team you don't even have to be a christian but to be on

00:27:56.020 the team you have to acknowledge religion is by nature public religion is never private look at

00:28:01.580 history religion will always find a way to be public it's not whether but which there will be

00:28:06.920 a reigning religion in every nation and if it's not christianity public facing then it'll be

00:28:13.980 secular liberalism as a placeholder temporarily for a time just long enough for another religion

00:28:21.220 to come and take place whether it be islam or judaism or this that or the other so it must

00:28:26.180 be christianity one because christianity is true but secondly because christianity will be

00:28:33.020 secularism will be replaced but christianity actually has the fortitude as a public facing

00:28:39.000 national religion to ward off other competing religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam,

00:28:45.600 and Judaism. So to be on the team, you have to be a Christian nationalist at least insofar as you 0.54

00:28:53.040 recognize America was a Christian nation and should remain a Christian nation. That should be restored 0.95

00:28:59.300 and the Christian religion should be public, not just private. We should be publicly, explicitly

00:29:06.160 Christian and these United States. If you can say yes to those four pillars, Christian nationalism,

00:29:15.560 patriarchy, masculine, male-led, race realism, pro-white, and J-pilled, Israel has to go. 0.99

00:29:23.920 We cannot stay allied with Israel. Then welcome to the team. Third party, America first party, 1.00

00:29:31.860 as a third party. That's just practically, in theory, fine. In practice, that's not going to 0.83

00:29:37.980 work. What's going to happen is one of the two parties is going to have to be taken over. And

00:29:43.520 I think that there's already good work well on the way to taking over the GOP. The GOP would be,

00:29:49.820 it's got massive problems, especially with that fourth pillar, Israel. The GOP is just blindly

00:29:56.180 Zionist. We all know this. But the GOP stands, I think, the better chance to be taken over than 0.86

00:30:04.240 the Democrat Party. And so what does it mean to be on the team? It means we are going to work

00:30:09.420 to take back the GOP and achieve these four pillars somewhere in the spectrum of this big

00:30:17.320 tent in the GOP, America first, Christ is king, and we're going to take back the country. That's

00:30:23.780 the four pillars. That's the plan. Not everybody is able to articulate it this way, but that really

00:30:30.280 is the big picture. That's getting down not just all the values, which there are hundreds, but the

00:30:35.460 priorities for this is what it means to play the game. And I think that this is going to win. It's

00:30:43.440 not if. I think it's simply when. I don't know if we get a candidate like that in 2028. I think that

00:30:51.100 probably the GOP gets crushed in the midterms in 2026, and the GOP deserves it. I hope that

00:30:58.180 they get crushed good and hard because that's what they've earned. But in 2028, maybe things 0.88

00:31:04.180 improve. We probably won't get a presidential candidate that fits the bill that I've just

00:31:08.400 described. And then the GOP will probably get crushed again, and it'll be what they deserve.

00:31:13.500 But in the near future, I think as soon as 2028, but likely 2032, this America First Christian 0.89

00:31:22.500 nationalist movement is going to take over the GOP and it's going to win an election. It's going 0.75

00:31:29.320 to be everything that MAGA said it would be and more, but MAGA betrayed us. And this is what we

00:31:35.120 can look towards on the horizon of the political landscape. And this is what you need to be

00:31:40.700 committed to and working towards all right that's going to be our show we're going to give some

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00:33:07.720 I'm going to talk about

00:33:09.320 Joel Webber

00:33:09.760 Joel Webber

00:33:11.120 is an accident

00:33:12.100 well the great

00:33:31.480 German statesman

00:33:32.400 Otto van Bismarck

00:33:35.040 where do you think

00:33:35.840 I was going with that one

00:33:36.840 Great statesman Otto van Bismarck, he once said,

00:33:39.680 Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable, and the art of the next best.

00:33:44.460 In my time in Christian circles... 0.99

00:33:45.860 Sounds kind of Nazi to me. 1.00

00:33:47.120 He was before the time, so it's okay. 0.85

00:33:49.480 1930, you've got to cut everything off. 1.00

00:33:51.240 Nothing German after that. 1.00

00:33:52.380 Yeah, nothing. 1.00

00:33:52.820 But prior to that, you're all right.

00:33:54.360 No, politics is the art of the possible.

00:33:56.020 I've seen a lot of Christian movements over the last 10 years,

00:33:58.440 and there's a lot of idealism about revival or a movement,

00:34:01.940 even theonomy, which is good and right, and it has a lot of good tenets.

00:34:04.960 There was an element of kind of hopefulness in this. 0.65

00:34:07.240 It was the Reconstructionists, and they imagined that America was going to collapse and would rise from it, would be a new theonomic Christian state. 0.87

00:34:14.320 So there's a lot of hopefulness and optimism, and optimism about the future is good. 0.89

00:34:17.940 Real quick with that, the Reconstructionists thinking of guys like Rush Dooney, who I like.

00:34:24.760 He had great insights. 0.97

00:34:26.240 The older Reconstructionists were better. 0.96

00:34:28.200 You're Gary North, you're Rush Dooney, Bonson, the more modern guys are. 0.90

00:34:33.540 But Rush Dooney, here's the deal.

00:34:35.260 He couldn't play nice with other people.

00:34:36.880 He couldn't build a coalition.

00:34:39.080 Because he was so specific.

00:34:40.240 So that's my point real quick is to say it's the bright-eyed, bushy-tailed naivety and purist.

00:34:46.280 But it's also they thought that they even recognized, they knew that what they were working towards was so particular that it didn't stand a snowflake's chance in hell unless there was some kind of major apocalyptic.

00:35:02.820 elliptic uh crash so they like they put a lot of stock in y2k exactly you know those kind of things

00:35:08.280 and here's another big piece and and we are christians i pastor a local church both of you

00:35:13.880 are members of that church we do the work as individual persons individual people of an

00:35:19.380 evangelist seeking to make disciples sharing the gospel with people um we want to see revival god

00:35:24.100 could send revival and we pray for revival but the theonomic uh theonomic guys reconstructions

00:35:29.840 That was the other piece was they knew that their plan would only work if there was an apocalypse and if there was a revival to where 50% of the population of the nation plus one was regenerate.

00:35:42.180 And what we're saying is, no, we need a political plan whether God sends revival or not.

00:35:46.920 Something that would work and be good for the nation, even if we think that you could restore politically before God sends revival spiritually.

00:35:58.180 Exactly.

00:35:58.580 So if Rush Juney didn't do politics, but specifically wrote on theology and law, didn't play politics, even said there was a point where he left Christianity Today.

00:36:06.660 He's like, I could have more influence here.

00:36:08.100 I could have more power.

00:36:08.980 I could build a bigger team, but I want to stay true to my mission.

00:36:11.920 So he did the writing side of things.

00:36:14.260 We are specifically political.

00:36:16.060 And political where it's the art of the attainable, we have to say, realistically, what are our best chances for the next 10 years?

00:36:22.040 I've given this illustration before.

00:36:23.300 it's like a plane trying to take off the core the stock of america uh being saved from whatever this

00:36:28.980 hellhole is that's going on right now with enough runway and enough speed you make it even the

00:36:33.960 biggest planes in the world as heavy as they are they can actually make it according to the laws

00:36:37.900 of physics if they have enough time so we're saying for the next 10 years we need time i think

00:36:43.820 you look all around all across the world right now the sentiment is is uh is getting negative

00:36:49.460 The sentiment is downhill on mass immigration.

00:36:53.260 Whether it comes to Britain, whether it comes to Germany, Hungary, and Poland, they've rededicated their commitment to not accepting refugees from the EU.

00:36:59.460 All around the world, the sentiment is souring.

00:37:01.700 There is a word I was looking for.

00:37:02.680 I knew it started with an S.

00:37:03.760 Sentiment is souring on immigration.

00:37:06.020 So that means in time, there will come a point where all of the West, not just America, not just Britain, say, we're done. 1.00

00:37:11.320 We're done with third world immigration. 1.00

00:37:13.260 That day, I truly believe, will happen. 1.00

00:37:15.540 We have to survive until then. 1.00

00:37:17.080 But Islam and Judaism and the influence of Israel as a nation and state, the extent of women in politics, all of those things, I think in time, you're already seeing it now. 0.95

00:37:25.800 It's already happening. 0.84

00:37:26.320 The majority will say, we're done.

00:37:28.040 People are souring on it.

00:37:29.020 The Atlantic is coming out with an article on me on patriarchy because they're recognizing.

00:37:37.300 New York Times just did an article on Dale Partridge,

00:37:40.060 who's part of our NXR team, on patriarchy.

00:37:44.700 Because even the big influencers in the nation,

00:37:50.200 institutionally speaking, they're like, 1.00

00:37:52.740 yeah, feminism is not popular. 1.00

00:37:55.320 Helen Lewis for The Atlantic wrote an article, 1.00

00:37:57.300 The Death of Millennial Feminism. 1.00

00:37:59.240 That's right. 0.75

00:37:59.640 Yeah, the era's over.

00:38:00.480 And every one of these four pillars, 0.85

00:38:02.600 whether it's Christianity versus Islam and versus Judaism,

00:38:06.320 Eh, young men are coming back to church.

00:38:09.240 A type of revival is underway. 0.99

00:38:11.560 Feminism.

00:38:12.360 Yeah, actually, men are suited for these roles. 1.00

00:38:14.180 Feminism made all these promises.

00:38:15.460 Even young women are saying that now.

00:38:16.940 Even young women are.

00:38:18.120 It's three times higher than the previous generation of young women saying it's 18%. 1.00

00:38:21.840 A wife should always submit to her husband. 1.00

00:38:24.080 So feminism, on the decline. 1.00

00:38:26.180 Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, third world religions, on the decline.

00:38:30.700 The state of Israel, negative 47 approval among young men.

00:38:35.160 the state of Israel's favorability

00:38:36.960 men under the age of 45 I think

00:38:38.520 so young men on the decline

00:38:40.860 all of these areas

00:38:42.040 immigration, race realism, all of that

00:38:45.260 we have congressmen

00:38:46.840 reinforcing our rhetoric 0.98

00:38:48.460 import the third world, become the third world 1.00

00:38:50.540 Haitians aren't fit to be here, well it's the culture 1.00

00:38:52.600 no, Haiti is a dangerous place full of dangerous 1.00

00:38:55.320 people, namely Haitians 1.00

00:38:57.360 so here's the encouragement

00:38:58.840 give us 10 years

00:39:00.440 with the borders not being open and we win

00:39:03.320 Give us 10 years of our message getting out, we win.

00:39:06.040 Give us time, and this ship will float.

00:39:08.940 This plane will take off.

00:39:10.140 We will win.

00:39:11.080 So how do we gather time?

00:39:12.700 With a niche group that's perfectly aligned and 25 tenants?

00:39:16.460 Nope.

00:39:17.200 Broad coalition with lots of flexibility, not in the church, not in the church domain, but politically.

00:39:24.040 And if you pull that off politically, you've got a snowball's chance in hell.

00:39:28.180 Yes.

00:39:28.680 Yep, I like that, the concept of the art of the possible.

00:39:31.100 it's uh every every movement will have its academics it will have the people who are

00:39:36.300 they're they're interested more so in forming a coherent systematic systematic worldview how does

00:39:43.040 how do these things uh if we were to follow the logical conclusions of every higher premise

00:39:47.840 to lower premise in practice what would that look like and that's why you know you come to the

00:39:51.860 defense of of guys like russian because that's ultimately his his magnum opus uh the institutes

00:39:57.060 of biblical law that's what he's trying to do he's trying to be consistent but the reality is

00:40:00.780 politics isn't always consistent i think of a guy like theodore roosevelt at the during his

00:40:05.920 presidency at the beginning of the 20th century you had these different uh forces you had the

00:40:10.700 trust you had the the big capitalists you had socialist socialistic forces and and and roosevelt's

00:40:17.420 perspective was like i'm i'm i'm in politics my job is to bridge the gap here and and to your

00:40:23.460 point west build a coalition so if i think of the four pillars uh across uh feminism across race

00:40:29.100 across israel uh you notice this you can already start to see today that there are guys who are

00:40:33.960 squarely in the anti-zionist camp but maybe not maybe a little soft on feminism or vice versa or

00:40:39.280 squarely in the race camp but perhaps they're you know they don't really think about feminism that

00:40:44.020 much you know i'm thinking of jared taylor for example you know talking about uh race specifically

00:40:49.040 and so yeah so the the reality is going to be in order for that runway to actually be achieved

00:40:55.440 You have to, to your point, be broad enough so that you can encompass people who are, hey, my thing is anti-Zionism.

00:41:01.740 My thing is race.

00:41:03.460 My thing is feminism without splintering. 0.90

00:41:06.820 And that's the challenge every coalition, every political movement is going to take is how big the tent can be before the poles collapse on itself. 0.92

00:41:14.240 Yes.

00:41:15.000 And specifically for Christians, I think the temptation in the prior generation was to think that working together with individuals like this and taking some items and not making them pillars is compromise.

00:41:24.600 and there's a sense in which there's personal individual arenas

00:41:28.080 in which it would be compromised, for example,

00:41:30.120 to accept a pastor that's not a Christian.

00:41:32.520 But you work for a boss that's not a Christian. 0.54

00:41:34.700 There are different spheres of life 0.99

00:41:36.420 and what might be compromise in one area 0.52

00:41:39.120 for a man to marry a non-Christian woman.

00:41:42.360 Compromise. 0.85

00:41:43.180 That's an individual, personal relationship.

00:41:46.020 Light has no fellowship with darkness in a marriage, in the home.

00:41:49.640 So in the sphere of the home, you can't compromise.

00:41:52.940 in the sphere of the church.

00:41:54.540 Like Nick Fuentes, he's a friend.

00:41:57.040 I appreciate him.

00:41:59.280 And we did our 10-part series together.

00:42:01.780 He was a perfect gentleman and respectful.

00:42:04.900 And we got to talk offline on the series,

00:42:07.720 but then offline, a lot of conversation about theology,

00:42:09.860 about the Lord, those kinds of things.

00:42:11.960 And I appreciate him very much.

00:42:13.940 Nick Fuentes, if he was sitting here,

00:42:15.300 he'd be the first to tell you,

00:42:16.540 yeah, Joel's not Catholic and he's a friend,

00:42:19.840 but he wouldn't be welcome in my Catholic church.

00:42:22.200 right not as a member like he could he could come and sit in the pew but he couldn't even take the

00:42:26.780 eucharist he'd have to go up and do the little hand cross thing you know whatever and you know

00:42:30.140 get a little blessing from the priest and likewise i'm a pastor of a uh reformed historically reformed

00:42:37.500 protestant church and nick fuentes it's not just that he couldn't be an elder or a pastor in the

00:42:41.640 church he couldn't be a member there are certain things that he would have to recant that i know

00:42:46.020 he won't right so it's like so we literally can't partner in the same church but we absolutely can

00:42:53.080 partner in politics and here's the deal it's like you're working for your fortune 500 company

00:42:57.460 with different views than all the other employees and your boss that's a great uh example and yet

00:43:02.840 you have a streamlined mission of what you're trying to accomplish and you're able to do it

00:43:07.460 together despite all of your different religious views theological political all those so we're

00:43:11.860 just saying politically, you actually can't align. Jake Shields is another example. Jake Shields is

00:43:19.260 not a Christian. He's open. I got to share the gospel with him recently, and I appreciate him, 0.57

00:43:24.360 and I'm praying for him that he would come to Christ. And yet, at the same time, he's not there

00:43:30.440 yet, not personally, not individually, not spiritually. But Jake Shields acknowledges that

00:43:36.360 Christianity is a net positive. Here's another example. Some people are like, Jake Shields, 0.99

00:43:40.680 say, oh my gosh, that's so extreme. Nick Fuentes says, all right, Elon Musk. Elon Musk, I guarantee

00:43:46.180 you, if he was sitting here and I said, do you think that America should be secular at the

00:43:50.460 political public facing level? Do you think that America should be secular, atheist, Hindu,

00:43:59.400 Buddhist, Islamic, Judaism, or do you think it should be Christian? Elon Musk would say,

00:44:04.900 absolutely Christian. And then if I said, and are you a Christian? Is Jesus your Lord and Savior?

00:44:10.680 He would say, no, I'm open to it, but that's what we're describing, but he's not hostile

00:44:19.300 to Christianity, and he sees, not only is he not hostile, he's not just indifferent

00:44:23.080 or neutral.

00:44:23.660 He recognizes in the political realm, at the national level, it must be Christian or it 0.68

00:44:28.400 falls apart. 0.99

00:44:30.100 That's what we're talking about. 1.00

00:44:31.500 And we want to save you from, if this is your mentality, we've only got to work with Christians,

00:44:35.540 we got to have all these 25 points that we're perfectly aligned with, and we're a part of

00:44:38.620 the OPCRNAXYZ, this denomination of 25 different churches,

00:44:43.080 and it has to be this program.

00:44:44.580 It's not just that you might not achieve it.

00:44:46.220 You'll be irrelevant, and you'll take yourself out of a fight

00:44:48.420 that we need you in.

00:44:50.040 The coalition needs to be as big as possible.

00:44:52.240 You would never live a life where I'll only work for Christian Boss.

00:44:54.840 I'll only use apps on my phone that are designed by a Christian company.

00:44:57.860 I'm only going to wear clothes that are designed by a Christian company.

00:45:00.740 There is a natural kingdom in which different alliances,

00:45:03.720 different partnerships are all valid and on the table,

00:45:06.400 provided you don't compromise morally then there's a spiritual kingdom politics is the natural

00:45:12.060 kingdom and the stakes this is what we need to end with the stakes are high we're talking about

00:45:17.240 a home for your children if you don't give enough time for that plane to get off the ground

00:45:21.160 that plane dives nose dives and crashes and it goes up in flames and your children and your 0.84

00:45:26.880 grandchildren grow up in a third world hellhole so the stakes are not well i'm not going to get 1.00

00:45:32.420 my particular flavor of 1.00

00:45:34.340 Presbyterianism, so I'm taking my ball and going home.

00:45:36.660 There won't be a home. There won't be

00:45:38.340 a shire. We have to do this 0.71

00:45:40.220 because if we don't, and this plane crashes,

00:45:42.460 if it doesn't take off, if we don't have enough time,

00:45:44.700 if the floodgates are opened,

00:45:46.360 I mean, India has, what is it, like

00:45:48.220 200 billion people? It's 1.5.

00:45:50.760 1.4, yeah. They could import

00:45:52.380 600 million people, there would still be

00:45:54.480 about a billion left in there, and 0.99

00:45:56.100 absolutely destroy America.

00:45:58.620 Level it never to be built again.

00:46:00.520 Those are some of the extreme stakes we're dealing with.

00:46:02.740 So even if you have a conundrum internally, I don't know,

00:46:06.360 think of your children.

00:46:07.460 Think of your grandchildren.

00:46:08.680 That's who you're doing it for.

00:46:09.960 Again, not asking you to compromise individually,

00:46:13.160 to pretend as though people are inside the kingdom

00:46:15.280 even though they don't accept Christ, to any of those things.

00:46:18.380 We're not asking for personal compromise,

00:46:20.260 but we are asking to be wise, to be shrewd, to be involved, and to care.

00:46:25.960 Right.

00:46:26.580 Real quick, it's just the friend-enemy distinction.

00:46:29.520 Every coalition that's ever succeeded has done this well.

00:46:33.120 It's just as much about omission as commission, who you attack.

00:46:36.620 And the reality is I think about King Alfred, the unification of England.

00:46:40.660 You have basically the Vikings infiltrating the UK, the United Kingdom, Britain, England.

00:46:47.540 And you have all of these different kingdoms, and they have their differences.

00:46:51.140 And they all have their kings who want power, and they want stake and land and property.

00:46:56.240 But when a greater enemy, when they're faced with a greater enemy, they can overlook the differences.

00:47:01.540 They can overlook the disputes.

00:47:03.300 They can refuse not to attack one another but to work one another in an alliance against the greater enemy.

00:47:09.100 And that's precisely where we're at, and that's just one example from history.

00:47:13.500 But, again, every coalition works this way.

00:47:15.400 It's I'm going to choose not to attack a person who I know, yeah, we have differences, and I could attack them on that thing.

00:47:23.060 but in all of these other areas, we're working together and we have a greater enemy that I'm

00:47:28.000 going to use my energy and my resources to attack instead. And so, um, yeah, so our instinct I get

00:47:33.260 at the individual level can even be to purity spiral. And I wouldn't even say that's necessarily

00:47:37.420 a bad thing. That's probably the right impulse because obviously you think your opinions are

00:47:41.720 right. You think your, your view worldview is the most righteous. And so you should, you should,

00:47:46.000 where you can recognize the inherent trade-offs of, okay, I'm going to say this. I'm not going

00:47:50.480 to say that we all do this every day in all of our relationships you have in-laws you have

00:47:54.300 disagreements with you go to their house for thanksgiving there are going to be things that

00:47:57.780 you don't talk about it's just hey it's not it's not always is we we all know how to exercise this

00:48:03.520 this skill intact right and so politics is no different politics is just the grander scheme

00:48:08.920 and so we all just have to be aware of of situationally aware of where people are how

00:48:14.300 the various ways in which we're aligned we have to know our differences and then we have to know

00:48:18.080 more than anything who our enemy is

00:48:20.440 and choose

00:48:22.280 to link arms where we can.

00:48:24.020 Last thing that I want to say real quick is

00:48:25.940 it's important I think here at the end

00:48:28.300 because some of the listeners might be, hey man

00:48:30.080 I like a lot of what you're saying but I see one

00:48:32.380 glaring weakness

00:48:33.540 that makes it seem as though this is

00:48:36.280 not realistic, it's not going to work and so I want

00:48:38.280 to say it out loud

00:48:39.040 Wes continues to use the analogy of

00:48:42.200 a large plane

00:48:43.520 that given enough runway, aka time

00:48:46.480 that it will be able to get off the ground.

00:48:48.780 It will be able to get in the air.

00:48:50.840 Here's the problem.

00:48:52.180 This is the catch-22.

00:48:53.380 This is the biggest problem, and I'm just going to name it.

00:48:56.180 The catch-22 of this plan, and it's the only plan,

00:48:59.040 this is the plan that will work.

00:49:00.960 Everything else will fail.

00:49:01.880 This is it.

00:49:02.780 And here's the Achilles potential, seemingly Achilles heel.

00:49:07.480 On the one hand, you need time.

00:49:09.380 On the other hand, you don't have it.

00:49:10.660 And what I mean by this is there are two things that have to happen. 0.98

00:49:14.100 um we cannot lose more of the country to immigration so like the time that's one of 1.00

00:49:21.040 the biggest things that we're looking at in terms of the time is that we still currently have a white 1.00

00:49:26.120 majority slim but we still have it and we cannot afford like four more years like we had with 1.00

00:49:33.060 biden 20 million whatever it was you know that flooded into the country from the third world 1.00

00:49:39.360 and and then you know and then the gop comes in and they're talking about you know you've got

00:49:43.920 GOP people in, in the Senate talking about mass amnesty and the dignity act, which is just right

00:49:53.040 with, with friends like these who, who needs enemies. I mean, massive betrayal. But here's

00:49:58.600 my point is on the one hand, if the plane's going to get off, you need time. And when we're talking

00:50:04.100 about needing time, we're talking about we, we can't have the complete demographic erasure in

00:50:11.520 the country. We can't afford any more immigration. On the other hand though, the other factor, 1.00

00:50:16.340 and this is where the catch 22 comes in, is you have to punish the GOP. You have to. So that's

00:50:23.620 the biggest challenge right now that great minds behind the scenes are working on. There's lots of

00:50:30.140 conversation going on in chats. There are symposiums, people gathering that's not a public

00:50:35.600 conference that people are not invited to. And we have the privilege of being privy to some of

00:50:42.100 those things. But that's the biggest question right now is 2028 is coming. 2026 is pretty much

00:50:49.120 already foregone conclusion, like, you know, GOP gets crushed. But that may not be enough

00:50:54.340 to teach the GOP a lesson. In fact, if I had to guess, it won't be. The GOP will need to get

00:51:00.220 The same thing that is happening to Vivek in Ohio will need to happen to a Marco Rubio or even a J.D. Vance.

00:51:10.000 I like J.D. Vance, but J.D. Vance, I mean, he literally just got up.

00:51:15.200 Now, here's the nice thing.

00:51:16.160 There is time.

00:51:17.360 So maybe there's a change of heart.

00:51:19.220 But between now and then, if J.D. Vance is still saying, like, well, we like some immigrants.

00:51:26.680 I mean, he just recently said, like, we like some.

00:51:29.260 There are great people from India.

00:51:31.520 I married one of them.

00:51:32.820 I named my son Vivek, and he just recently said this.

00:51:37.220 And the video has been going around, circulating.

00:51:41.460 He's got to walk that back.

00:51:43.500 I mean, Vivek is zero of the four pillars.

00:51:46.060 He's running as candidate for the GOP in Ohio for governor, and he is zero.

00:51:49.780 Christianity, patriarchy, J-pilled, race.

00:51:52.840 Yeah, think about that. 0.98

00:51:53.520 Flat across the board.

00:51:54.340 None of them.

00:51:55.220 He's none of them. 0.99

00:51:55.760 So he can't—so if you come out in Ohio and you vote for Vivek, you are voting for the destruction of Ohio, even though, yes, temporarily, for a few years, he might be better than—well, he probably would be slightly better than the Jewish woman who is, you know— 0.97

00:52:14.640 Who locked down the whole state over COVID. 0.98

00:52:16.280 Right.

00:52:16.880 We understand that.

00:52:18.380 We understand that.

00:52:19.200 But what you're also doing, though, by voting for Vivek is you get a momentary slight partial relief, but you also tell for indefinitely, you are promoting an indefinite message to the GOP, you can continue to hate us and you can count on us.

00:52:40.420 You can spit in our face and we'll say, please, sir, may I have another.

00:52:44.780 And so now 2028, that's 2026, 2028, I think the hardest part about this plan is the GOP

00:52:53.800 is either Vance is going to have to change his tune and mean it and convince us that

00:53:01.540 he means it, in Christian terms, repent.

00:53:05.600 He's going to have to repent of some of his pro-H1B kind of rhetoric.

00:53:11.640 So he's going to have to actually change direction.

00:53:17.840 Or if not, then they're going to have to put forward someone else.

00:53:22.100 His chances are already in the polls.

00:53:24.060 J.D. has gone way down.

00:53:25.160 He's even personally said recently he doesn't know if he'll even consider running.

00:53:29.540 But if it's Marco Rubio, Marco Rubio is, I mean,

00:53:35.000 Marco Rubio loves Benjamin Netanyahu more than any man alive.

00:53:40.360 Like, it can't, I'm sorry.

00:53:42.260 It can't be Marco.

00:53:43.020 And I know he had his base speech, you know, in Europe recently.

00:53:46.440 And that's a sign our rhetoric is winning.

00:53:48.040 They're having to echo that rhetoric because they understand where the constituents are at.

00:53:52.240 It's a dog whistle to them.

00:53:53.820 They've got to throw out something.

00:53:54.920 So our rhetoric is winning.

00:53:56.220 It is winning.

00:53:56.740 But it can't be that guy just because he had a base speech.

00:53:58.680 Exactly.

00:53:59.060 That's not enough.

00:54:00.120 It's going to have to be that.

00:54:01.180 But then also, he needs that base speech on, you know, the racial piece. 0.65

00:54:06.500 And then he needs to have it on the fourth pillar about Israel.

00:54:08.980 And then he needs like 10 more speeches like it for the next three years, convincing us.

00:54:15.420 So anyways, as it currently stands, unless there's another candidate, a third guy besides Rubio and Vance, who's already generally aligned, or one of those guys in a believable way truly repents and changes courses,

00:54:34.040 then the hardest part about this plan

00:54:36.100 and getting the plane off the runway

00:54:37.960 and having it up

00:54:38.560 is that if they put forward Vance

00:54:41.420 as he currently is

00:54:42.500 or Rubio as he currently is

00:54:44.780 then it is incumbent upon you

00:54:47.140 as a patriot

00:54:48.060 as a Christian

00:54:49.160 as someone who loves the Lord Jesus Christ

00:54:50.780 and loves these United States of America

00:54:52.780 it is incumbent upon you

00:54:54.640 to make sure that they are crushed

00:54:56.400 they have to lose

00:54:58.360 and they have to lose bad

00:55:00.020 so the GOP is like

00:55:01.580 we are absolutely done

00:55:03.400 unless we completely submit

00:55:09.920 to every single one of the demands of these young men.

00:55:13.600 These young men are in charge now

00:55:15.080 and we have to do everything they say

00:55:16.660 or we're completely done.

00:55:19.680 And yes, that's correct.

00:55:21.340 You must do everything we say

00:55:22.840 or you're done forever.

00:55:26.680 And that's kind of like,

00:55:27.860 that's the catch 22 is on the one hand, we need time.

00:55:31.820 On the other hand, though, we have to punish the GOP and bully them into our positions.

00:55:39.260 But if you punish the GOP, if we don't get a good candidate for 2028, then we must punish them.

00:55:45.160 And if we punish them, then we get a Democrat.

00:55:48.400 And if we get a Democrat, we lose time. 0.97

00:55:51.320 Not just we lose four years, but we lose time in terms of who knows how many immigrants are going. 1.00

00:55:58.760 You see what I'm saying? 0.99

00:55:59.620 Who knows how many of us will be in jail, not able to get the message out?

00:56:03.240 Correct.

00:56:04.440 So that's what's going on here.

00:56:05.980 And these are the things that have to be weighed.

00:56:07.780 And what that means, this is what it really means.

00:56:09.900 Right now, it's still too early to tell.

00:56:11.440 But what it means is when we get closer to 2028 and the presidential election, it'll

00:56:15.880 mean, who is the GOP candidate?

00:56:18.280 Is he our guy?

00:56:19.200 Or is he a guy who needs to be punished?

00:56:20.900 And then also, we're going to have to seriously look at who is the Democrat candidate.

00:56:25.900 All right, this person is terrible, right?

00:56:29.060 This person is, they're terrible on the dignity of the unborn.

00:56:33.720 They're terrible on, like, they're a Democrat, right?

00:56:35.680 I'm being redundant. 0.84

00:56:36.440 Terrible Democrat, same thing.

00:56:38.400 But the question will be, how terrible?

00:56:41.580 How terrible?

00:56:42.880 Right? 0.69

00:56:43.060 Because not every, we've had Democrat presidents before, and they all did not bring in 20 million

00:56:48.840 people into the country.

00:56:50.120 Barack Obama is very mild compared to Joe Biden.

00:56:52.460 And we just have to recognize that.

00:56:53.780 So, and there is a real possibility where immigration, and we have three years to go, two and a half years to go before this election. 0.57

00:57:01.960 We need to recognize that even on the Democrat side of the aisle, there are people like, yeah, I still want to trans your kids. 0.98

00:57:09.060 Yeah, I still want to kill babies. 0.96

00:57:10.680 But in terms of affecting the votes, right, more people who vote Democrat coming in, immigration, that's what affects the vote. 0.78

00:57:18.180 There are, right now, immigration is a losing issue across the board.

00:57:23.780 And honestly, transgenderism is a losing issue across the board. 0.82

00:57:28.060 In the same way that we're saying we might need to punish the GOP

00:57:30.880 if they don't give us a good candidate in 2028,

00:57:33.020 well, that actually just happened in 2024 on the other side.

00:57:36.140 They were punished so badly with Kamala Harris,

00:57:40.560 so badly that they were like,

00:57:42.600 we can't talk about transgenderism anymore.

00:57:47.360 Well, they went hard on abortion as a big one.

00:57:49.640 Project 2025 is going to outlaw abortion. 0.52

00:57:51.560 You can view that as downstream of feminism, which it is.

00:57:53.780 And so they went hard on the women question, and they were punished for being on the wrong side of the populace. 1.00

00:57:59.180 The populace was like also kind of the race piece. 0.89

00:58:01.340 We don't want an Indian, black, Jamaican, Jewish woman as president, and we don't really care that much about abortion.

00:58:06.420 So you can see that as the culture was shifting, and they went opposite direction on the feminism pillar, on the race pillar, and the country was like, eh, we don't care. 0.97

00:58:16.040 The left was like, eh, we don't care.

00:58:18.500 Exactly.

00:58:19.060 So in other words, this is what it will come down to.

00:58:21.040 who is the GOP candidate for 2028? Does he need to be punished? If it's Marco Rubio

00:58:26.420 without, again, serious, serious repentance, he must be punished. If it's J.D. Vance without

00:58:33.340 serious repentance, he has to be punished. If it's a good candidate, then boom, we'll vote.

00:58:41.760 But if it's not, then the next question is, it's like, okay, he has to be punished. But then we

00:58:47.200 also have to look over on the other side of the aisle who is uh the democrat nominee because if

00:58:53.100 it's uh aoc if it's ilhan omar then it's like all right gop really has to be punished also plane

00:59:02.100 really has to have runway to take off yeah and then we have to seriously weigh that and be like

00:59:06.480 dude the runway's too important ilhan omar will literally uh she'll she'll import uh like three

00:59:13.360 He's promising to airlift Somalia from the eastern hemisphere and bring it up, plop it here.

00:59:19.040 Yeah, so if it's Ilhan Omar, then it's like, okay, we've got to punish the GOP, but we can't punish them here because the stakes are too heavy. 0.56

00:59:30.140 And so we're going to have to punish them in 2030 instead, or 2032 instead.

00:59:36.380 But here's the thing. 0.94

00:59:37.920 All Democrats are bad. 0.97

00:59:39.140 Don't get me wrong. 1.00

00:59:39.740 They're all terrible. 0.98

00:59:40.260 but if it's a democrat who is not he's more mild oh a white man is probably who they're going to 0.99

00:59:46.440 have to run probably white men unlike black or small and women they don't have the same they

00:59:50.720 don't care that much yep as much i should say as much and so if it's a democrat who is bad 0.73

00:59:56.480 as all of them are um but the difference is okay he'll be he'll be this bad and the gop guy will

01:00:06.240 be just also bad, but just slightly better. That's your chance to punish the GOP. 0.91

01:00:15.200 Yeah. And I think 2026 will be a canary in the coal mine in terms of how the establishment

01:00:19.060 GOP treats what, by all accounts, all measures right now looks like it's going to be a loss of

01:00:25.040 the House and the Senate at the federal level. It's whether or not it's a turn toward this

01:00:30.400 this, uh, element of the right that is really the center point of the turf war. If they turn

01:00:36.200 to them and say, it's your fault, you're the reason we lost in 2026. And, uh, and we hate

01:00:42.580 you even more, right? We're not going to learn from this going into 2028. We're going to do

01:00:46.620 everything we can't, we can do to crush you. Or alternatively, maybe a more optimistic, optimistic 0.55

01:00:52.280 outcome is we really need this segment. And, and, and over the next two years, in order to win in

01:00:58.300 2028 we're going to do everything we can to appease these people so that we can get garner

01:01:02.820 their support and those are really the two outcomes i think 2026 is going to give some indication

01:01:06.420 in terms of where trump points where the the leaders in congress are pointing the republican

01:01:11.040 leaders that is um and we'll see yep so this is how politics works it's just the way that it works

01:01:16.720 it's messy it's the realm of the paul uh possible um it's attainable the attainable it's messy uh

01:01:24.140 it's uncomfortable. Um, but this is the way politics works. It's a part of the natural

01:01:28.840 kingdom. Uh, not, not the kingdom of grace, but, uh, the common kingdom and Christians have to,

01:01:35.500 um, they have to, uh, engage accordingly. That's the way it is. So, uh, what we need,

01:01:41.720 the big picture, what we're working towards is a America first, Christ is King politics.

01:01:48.300 It's not going to be a third party because that's just not how our American system works. It's going

01:01:52.640 to be taking over one of the two existing parties. It's going to be the GOP, because that's far more

01:01:58.380 likely, and the work is already well underway. And this America First, Christ is King political

01:02:05.740 movement will have four priorities, lots of values, but four priorities that make it distinguished,

01:02:14.000 and that's going to be Christian nationalism, masculinity, patriarchy, male-led, race realism, 0.62

01:02:21.400 in our American context, pro-white, and J-PILT, no more buddy-buddy with Israel.

01:02:29.560 And that's it. We all know that's it. And it's going to work. We're going to win. And so hang 0.89

01:02:36.560 in, have hope. But those are the marching orders. That's the plan. And you need to trust the plan,

01:02:42.840 not Trump's plan, but this plan. And you need to abide by it. All of us have to be unified.

01:02:50.260 We have to work together and we will win but those are the marching orders. This is what you need to do

01:02:56.020 Be a christian be a patriot stick to the plan. Let's get it done

01:03:00.280 Thanks for tuning in and we'll see you next time. God bless

01:03:20.260 Thank you.

The NXR Podcast - May 01, 2026

⁠NXR Livestream - ⁠The 4 Pillars For Christian Nationalism

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