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00:00:00 The hyphenated heresy, Judeo-Christianity, and yes, it is a heresy. 0.91

00:00:06 It is a massive poison, both theologically and politically. 0.91

00:00:11 If you don't think this is a problem, then you're living under a rock.

00:00:15 A thousand pastors of American evangelical churches just recently returned

00:00:20 from an all-expense-paid sponsored trip to Israel,

00:00:25 where they spent days being trained and equipped aka indoctrinated by Jewish influence to take 0.78

00:00:33 that indoctrination back to their churches that they pastor and to then indoctrinate their 0.84

00:00:39 congregants so that the Christian faith once and for all passed down to the saints would be

00:00:45 weaponized ultimately not to serve the Lord Jesus Christ and not to serve Christians in America 0.70

00:00:51 in a domestic capacity, but rather to serve the modern nation state of Israel. This is a massive 0.63

00:00:59 problem, a massive problem. Theologically, it is a problem. The fact that we have millions of

00:01:06 evangelical Protestant Christians here in America that genuinely believe that the Bible infallibly

00:01:12 teaches that if they bless the modern nation state of Israel, if they bless Bibi, Netanyahu, 0.63

00:01:18 if they bless Israeli wars in the Middle East, if they bless the bombing of Iran,

00:01:24 then they will be blessed by God.

00:01:27 And if they disagree, if they criticize, if they stand up and say no,

00:01:32 that they would literally be under a divine curse.

00:01:36 There are millions of professing Christians in these United States

00:01:40 who believe that that is the written word of God. 0.88

00:01:44 It is a heresy.

00:01:46 It is politically poisonous.

00:01:47 It is theologically detrimental.

00:01:50 And so, yes, we are addressing this topic in our episode today.

00:01:55 Tune in now.

00:02:17 At the foot of Mount Sinai, a nation met its God in thunder and fire.

00:02:32 From that covenant flowed the faith of Abraham, Moses, and the prophets, fulfilled, not replaced,

00:02:40 in Christ.

00:02:42 But somewhere between the martyrs and the modern West, the truth was blurred.

00:02:48 Politicians and pastors began speaking of a Judeo-Christian civilization, a phrase born

00:02:56 not of Sinai, but in Washington, tracing its roots not to Moses, but to the Pharisees. 0.52

00:03:04 The hyphenated heresy challenges the myth of the hyphen, tracing how it reshaped Christian

00:03:11 identity, redefine the church's witness, and bound modern faith to political Zionism.

00:03:18 Pick up your copy today on Amazon.com. 0.59

00:03:24 Well, in other news, we're going to Israel. This week, more than 1,000 pastors and Christian

00:03:30 influences are in the Holy Land to show their support for Israel. Chris Mitchell reports from

00:03:35 ISRAEL'S MINISTRY OF FOREIGN

00:03:40 AFFAIRS. 0.95

00:03:40 A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN ISRAEL'S 0.62

00:03:42 MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND 0.58

00:03:44 THE FRIENDS OF ZION MUSEUM LED

00:03:46 TO THE UNPRECEDENTED VISIT.

00:03:48 AS THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY,

00:03:50 THE STATE OF ISRAEL HAS

00:03:52 OFFICIALLY PARTNERED WITH 1,000

00:03:55 STRATEGIC PASTORS TO COMMISSION

00:03:58 THEM AS AMBASSADORS TO COMBAT

00:04:00 ANTISEMITISM AND REACH THE YOUTH 0.53

00:04:02 OF THEIR GENERATION.

00:04:03 Dr. Mike Evans says Israel's fight is not just on the battlefield.

00:04:08 Right now there's an ideological war that Israel is losing. 0.77

00:04:12 So they need the evangelicals, they need the Zionists to fight an ideological war. 0.79

00:04:18 Yeah, not great. 0.66

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00:04:46 But today we are talking about the topic of the hyphenated heresy, Judeo-Christianity.

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00:06:34 Judeo-Christianity. All right, so that's all the stuff. We're going to hop in. We're going to deal

00:06:38 with this topic of Judeo-Christianity, which we believe really is, and is becoming more and more

00:06:45 by the day, an alternate religion, another religion with massive theological problems

00:06:51 and also massive political poison and so we're going to talk about the politics first because

00:06:58 that's the clip that you just watched where you see without you know they're not they're not

00:07:02 hiding it the quiet part is being said out loud that hey we we need to they're not using this

00:07:08 word but it is what it is we need to indoctrinate and weaponize evangelical protestant pastors

00:07:14 on the ground in america not of just small churches in the backwoods that represent 60 70

00:07:20 80 people but this is a list and it's been curated and was made public about a month ago a thousand

00:07:26 different pastors many in the SBC Southern Baptist Convention many in Calvary Chapel and each of

00:07:32 these pastors being representative of large churches the average church was like a thousand

00:07:37 to two thousand members so you're talking about in the millions it's it's one two maybe 2.5 million

00:07:44 christians in america being represented by these thousand pastors who had a sponsored all expense 0.60

00:07:52 paid trip to be indoctrinated by jewish influencers for days to then go back weaponize 0.51

00:07:59 their their constituents their congregants as a voting bloc and not just with voting political 0.73

00:08:07 power but also culturally social media influence to change america's the youth especially those

00:08:14 who are younger in America their perception, their sentiment towards Israel to make it positive. How

00:08:20 positive? Positive enough to, in some cases, theologically abandon the faith once and for all

00:08:26 handed down to the saints. Also positive enough to where the young men of America would be willing

00:08:32 to go, as we have several times, to fight Israel's war in the Middle East. And I'm telling you right 0.90

00:08:37 now, my son will not go and die for Israel. We're not doing that. We've done that. We're done. We've

00:08:46 been there, bought the t-shirt. It is enough. We have got to lay Judeo-Christianity to rest. We

00:08:54 need to put it to death in our generation, in our generation. As for me and my house,

00:09:00 judeo-christianity will die a thousand deaths that is our goal that's today's episode let's

00:09:08 start with the political piece and then we're going to move on to the theological piece because

00:09:13 there is such a misconception from especially protestant sadly evangelical christians in the

00:09:20 west today especially in america they think that judaism that modern judaism is simply well yeah

00:09:28 it's not Christianity and we wish that Jews would become Christians, but it's not that bad. It's

00:09:33 really just half of Christianity. No, it's a whole perversion. It's not half of the truth, 1.00

00:09:41 right? That Christianity minus the New Testament, right? So it's just half of the truth of 0.99

00:09:45 Christianity. No, it's a whole perversion of Christianity. And we're going to lay that out

00:09:50 for you theologically at the second half of the episode. So Wes, I'm going to turn it to you.

00:09:54 Let's go. Yeah. So on the political side, why are they bringing these pastors in? If you look at the

00:09:59 FARA filing, so a FARA filing is when a foreign government conducts activity in the United States.

00:10:05 You need to disclose that. It does not matter if you are Israel. It does not matter if you are

00:10:09 Afghanistan. It does not matter who you are. If you do activity with dollars promoting a message 1.00

00:10:14 in the United States, you need to file a FARA filing. So in the FARA filing, you have exactly

00:10:20 of this campaign you're talking about. We're bringing pastors over. We're encouraging trips

00:10:24 to Israel. We're propagandized digitally. So this is showing people ads who visit different churches.

00:10:30 The reason that they're doing that is since October 7th, 2023, Israel has not looked that

00:10:35 great on the world stage. Whether it be Prime Minister Netanyahu looking like he's coming up

00:10:40 on charges for war crimes, whether it just be eroding support among the youth for Israel,

00:10:46 the reason they're doing this is not random. It's not just, hey, every 50 years we like to

00:10:50 celebrate an anniversary, get the whole team together.

00:10:53 No, as you heard Mike Evans say on that video,

00:10:56 they're realizing that support is slipping.

00:10:58 Jews are 2% to 3% of the United States.

00:11:01 They're ultimately not going to be all of your members of Congress, 0.88

00:11:04 all of your members of Senate, in the presidency, vice presidency.

00:11:07 They need the groundswell support of the majority of America,

00:11:11 which is white evangelicals.

00:11:12 It's not going to be Muslims, Buddhists, atheists. 0.79

00:11:14 For them to be successful, it can't just be Jews in America. 0.82

00:11:18 It has to be non-Jews, predominantly white evangelical Christians that take up their mandate. 0.82

00:11:27 So that 2% to 3% of ethnic Jews in America is, yes, that's a minority report as it pertains to the total population of America. 0.65

00:11:36 But it is worth noting that there are currently more Jews in America than there are in Israel.

00:11:41 So it's still a significant amount of ethnic Jews living in our country and disproportionately

00:11:47 influential, influential with the church and what they're trying to do with evangelicals,

00:11:53 politically influential, culturally, social media, influential, also in the realm of Hollywood

00:11:59 and entertainment and media, which we know all too well, also in the realm of academia.

00:12:04 And so this is a foreign influence that is not America first.

00:12:09 And even more importantly, as important as that is, it is not Christ first.

00:12:15 It is anti-Christ, and we need to be aware.

00:12:18 Yep.

00:12:19 And Nick actually talks about this in this episode that's coming up on Wednesday, if

00:12:23 you haven't watched it already.

00:12:24 He has some really great insights into how Jews in America, they realize that the political

00:12:29 left is often pretty traitorous to Israel, whether that be in the 60s when they had a

00:12:33 sneak attack perpetrated on them, or again, just two years ago, October 7th. 0.99

00:12:37 I mean, big schools, leftist schools like Harvard, they were kind of like, eh, Palestinians kind of have a point. 0.78

00:12:43 And so Israel is doing its best to shore up the support that they have among evangelicals in the wake of terror attacks that they saw on their border, 0.85

00:12:53 in the wake of slipping support among the younger generation.

00:12:57 And the way to do that, if you're going to get to American evangelicals, you have to go through their religion.

00:13:02 That is just something that Americans, that's at the core, whether it be white evangelicals, whether it be Catholics, your best shot is to appeal to their religion and say, religiously, you have a duty to support us.

00:13:16 Even if you don't agree with us, again, on religion, so okay, you're Christians, we're Jews, and what they'll do is they'll put forward this message, we share the same foundation.

00:13:24 Okay, so we're Jews, we don't take the New Testament, but you guys have the Old Testament and the New Testament, you believe both are authoritative, we have the Old Testament as well.

00:13:32 we share this common foundation. You have prominent influential guys like Jorm Hazoni and Josh Hammer.

00:13:38 They try to get that message across. They're Orthodox Jews, but they say, look, at the end of

00:13:42 the day, okay, we reject Jesus, but we share a common foundation for ethics, for morality, for

00:13:48 religion. We're an Abrahamic religion like you. And so, kind of like dot, dot, dot, little known,

00:13:54 also you should be invested in providing foreign support. The U.S., it depends what metric you use.

00:14:00 we've given over two to three hundred billion dollars worth of aid to israel and that makes

00:14:05 sense 75 years since 1948 just since 1948 so not even a full century 300 billion dollars and that's

00:14:12 without question the reason that they've been able to exist there yes they're not exactly very

00:14:16 friendly with all of their neighbors and so those billions of dollars have helped build the iron

00:14:20 dome one of the best weapons and missile defense systems that the world has it's what's enabled

00:14:24 them to survive so their survival perhaps the samson samson option right um how they survive

00:14:31 is support for america you have to make the connection and if that goes away there is an

00:14:36 entire state in the middle east who knows what would happen maybe they would hold off but it's

00:14:41 only 9 million people iran 90 million like population wise they don't have the size

00:14:46 geographically they're sandwiched between all of them so the support of american evangelicals

00:14:53 is absolutely essential. And so understandably, we get the rationale. They're saying we have got

00:14:59 to pull out all the stops. It doesn't matter how much money it takes, the influencers,

00:15:03 bring everybody. Guys have got to get on board with this message. We need our American support.

00:15:08 We need that support overflowing into the halls of Congress. We need that support within the

00:15:13 executive branch, the Oval Office. We need America's support or we're in big trouble.

00:15:18 And the recent two years, if that continues, if that slipping for support happens, and this young generation eventually gets into power and they get elected, and they're America first, more isolationist, hawkish message, if that catches on, we're in a world of hurt.

00:15:34 Yeah, and I would just say, so there's a couple different channels to emphasize here.

00:15:39 Obviously, the treatment of the book, The Hyphenid Heresy, is more on the religious element.

00:15:44 But even if you think about the divide between sort of Republicans and Democrats on the issue of Israel, what you can see the other channel being is the economic channel.

00:15:55 And so you can think about some of the relationships in Silicon Valley and Israel sort of marketing themselves as a tech hub, if you will, on robotics, on AI.

00:16:06 And you see this investment happening.

00:16:07 You can look at Jared Kushner, the son-in-law of the president of the United States, even starting a private equity firm that is partly funded in Israel and investing in Israel tech startups.

00:16:18 And so even if you think about the left skew away from Israel, which has certainly been true for at least half a decade, there's still the tentacles of influence happening via the capitalist route.

00:16:30 And so on the right, you see certainly in the SBC, but just imagine a middle America, that sort of entire contingency, it's the religio-cultural element.

00:16:41 It's that we must support Israel.

00:16:42 We have this religious tie to the nation state.

00:16:47 And then again, just to recap, on the left, it being the tech, it being the Silicon Valley billionaires who invest in Israel, seeing it as sort of an opportunity for outsized returns in the Middle East.

00:16:59 Right. And now, you know, to be fair, even the tech on the right, the tech right with Peter Thiel, with Elon Musk, with, you know, multiple different individuals.

00:17:07 But you're right that Jewish influence economically, not just religiously and politically, but economically here in America is significant.

00:17:15 I think of Larry Ellison with Oracle. And so there's strong, significant powers that we should not trivialize.

00:17:23 We have to take seriously. I want to get into some of the theology.

00:17:27 we have some graphs that we want to show you guys, some visuals to properly understand modern

00:17:32 Judaism as it is today. It is not simply Christianity minus the New Testament. It's

00:17:38 not a half truth, but it is a whole perversion. But real quick before we do that, if you are

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00:20:09 Wes, I'm going to give it back to you.

00:20:10 So I'm going to rewind 100 years, and then we're going to rewind 2000.

00:20:14 I'm going to read actually here from the book.

00:20:15 This is the chapter on how really you had the hyphenated heresy, how it got its roots

00:20:20 into America.

00:20:21 And this is, just for the record, this is co-written, right?

00:20:24 So, and I've written a book before, actually twice.

00:20:30 I was about to say, two.

00:20:30 I've written two books, but I will, you know, I'm not going to sit here and pretend I am

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00:20:39 And so a lot of the heavy lifting, I was involved, you know, every step of the way, but a lot

00:20:43 of the heavy lifting it's it's fantastic writing and it's fantastic writing because a lot of the

00:20:47 heavy lifting was done uh by jd hall who is our uh co-author on the book he did an incredible job

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00:21:08 right great so i'm going to read this is from page 131 and again this is how it happened in

00:21:13 America. Because Judeo-Christianity, we've got to be honest, like England, France, it's not as much

00:21:18 a thing. It's here in America with dispensationalism and Zionism. That's where the fervor has really 0.94

00:21:24 kind of captured the people. And so reading from page 131 of the book, Cyrus Schofield, in his

00:21:29 famous reference Bible, filled the margins of scripture with a prophetic scheme that placed

00:21:33 Israel at the center of world history. His notes taught generations of Christians to read the Bible

00:21:39 through the lens of Jewish restoration to the land of Israel.

00:21:42 Entire passages were bent towards a future

00:21:44 that required the physical reestablishment of a Jewish state.

00:21:49 What might have once been seen as allegorical or fulfilled in Christ

00:21:52 was now presented as a countdown clock.

00:21:54 By the time Israel declared independence in 1948,

00:21:58 so remember, Schofield, his reference Bible,

00:22:00 this all comes out early beginnings of the 20th century.

00:22:02 Israel hadn't been reestablished, hadn't gone back to the land yet,

00:22:05 but he lays the foundation so that when that does happen,

00:22:09 And all of these evangelicals and dispensationalists, they say, oh, I've seen this.

00:22:14 I remember that this is what's required for the end times.

00:22:17 This is what's going to have to happen. 1.00

00:22:18 Israel gets restored. 0.94

00:22:20 The end times quickly start after. 0.91

00:22:22 By the time Israel declared independence in 1948, many evangelicals already had a framework in place to interpret it as divine prophecy.

00:22:30 But a framework on paper is not enough.

00:22:32 It must be popularized.

00:22:33 That is where conferences, study Bibles, and eventually mass media played their role.

00:22:37 Prophecy conferences in the early 20th century drew crowds eager to hear about the end times.

00:22:42 Radio preachers picked up on the theme, presenting the news headlines as fulfillments of scripture.

00:22:47 By the 1970s, Hall Lindsay's The Late Great Planet Earth turned speculative prophecy into a publishing sensation.

00:22:54 His charts and predictions saturated evangelical culture, convincing millions that history was rushing towards Armageddon

00:23:01 and that the Jewish state was at the center of it all.

00:23:03 This was not mere speculation. It was the perfect theological climate for Zionist lobbying groups.

00:23:10 So that's the theological side. How Lindsay, Christians, evangelicals, Zionist lobbying groups to exploit. 0.67

00:23:16 When AIPAC or CUFI, that's Christians United for Israel, approached evangelical leaders,

00:23:21 they found an audience already predisposed to hear their message as biblical truth.

00:23:26 When Israeli tourism boards offered discounted trips to pastors, they were not simply showing them archaeological sites.

00:23:31 They were reinforcing a prophetic worldview.

00:23:34 Walking on Israeli soil became proof that God's clock was ticking.

00:23:38 Pastors returned to their pulpits electrified, not only with political loyalty, but eschatological urgency.

00:23:45 And so here in the United States, really parsing out the context, that was the foundation that then made us so susceptible to these lobbying groups.

00:23:53 I don't think AIPAC is super successful lobbying in Russia.

00:23:56 there's something unique right here in america of our history of our and it's an american thing 0.68

00:24:03 for better or worse we're pretty low church baptist and methodist yeah they got here first

00:24:08 they laid the groundwork if you go even around our town here what are the biggest churches in town

00:24:12 they're baptist and methodist a little bit of church of christ as well some lutherans because

00:24:16 there's a german presence here but all of that is because circuit riders right pastors with you

00:24:22 know they didn't have a degree under their belt but they had the spirit and they went out they

00:24:25 arrived and they settled, but that also then made, kind of disconnected from church history,

00:24:30 as Baptists and Methodists contend to be, that also made them susceptible as dispensationalism,

00:24:35 a new rewriting, a new framing of Scripture arrived, that they picked up on it, they soaked

00:24:40 it up, and created what you could really call kind of a new American religion.

00:24:45 Yep. Absolutely true. Let's show that graph. I think it's so helpful, just for people to 0.98

00:24:50 visually see the difference between your grandma, your dispensationalist grandma, God bless her

00:24:57 heart, her view of modern Judaism today versus what it actually is. So let's show this graph

00:25:05 that shows historic Christianity. It's going to be the other one. So you have two different ways 0.99

00:25:09 of looking at it. You could say, all right, and you can see this on your screen. You have the

00:25:13 law of Moses given, you have the nation state of Israel, and you have observant Jews. And then you

00:25:19 have the cross of Christ, Jesus as the fulfillment of the Old Testament, and then Christians are kind 1.00

00:25:24 of the departure, right? They're the V2. So you add Judaism, and then Christians at the cross, 1.00

00:25:29 it's kind of this new religion takes form, and it departs. And so now today you would have 0.95

00:25:33 Christians and Jews, but as you see on that second chart, the one down there at the bottom half of 0.97

00:25:38 the screen, the modern Jews are just a continuity with the past. So there's this continuity with 0.92

00:25:42 Moses, this continuity with the prophets. They've missed the Messiah, right? They missed what they

00:25:47 were supposed to be looking for, but they're kind of continuing in the same vein.

00:25:51 Right, it's like they missed their exit, right?

00:25:52 There was a sign, the Messiah was like a sign.

00:25:55 A pretty important exit, we all say.

00:25:57 So you're driving down the highway, and there's a sign, namely Jesus Christ, the Son of God,

00:26:02 that's your exit, and they missed the off-ramp, right?

00:26:05 So that's how a lot of people think of it.

00:26:06 They think modern Jews today, it's all the way from Exodus and Moses and the giving of

00:26:11 the law, and they just stayed on the highway and missed their exit, right? 0.69

00:26:15 But that is not even close to the reality.

00:26:19 No.

00:26:19 And we go into this in the book.

00:26:22 What it would almost be better to say is that in the Old Testament, Jews, they were Old Testament Christians.

00:26:28 So really how it is, this top one, you have Adam and Eve.

00:26:31 They're promised Christ.

00:26:32 You have Moses and the law.

00:26:34 It promises and looks forward to Christ.

00:26:36 And you have the prophets and the Messiah.

00:26:39 Real quick, because we don't want to skip over that.

00:26:40 you have the christian gospel given by god himself to adam and eve in the garden long before the

00:26:47 mosaic law comes into play at the beginning of time gospel first and this is what paul you know

00:26:52 this is the whole thing that he that he leans on in galatians for instance in romans for instance

00:26:58 uh he talks about how how there's a superior covenant that precedes it doesn't come after

00:27:04 as an aberration but it actually precedes the giving of the law through moses and the old

00:27:09 covenant that there is that the new covenant is actually uh the covenant of grace that actually

00:27:16 yes there is a newness to it in the inauguration of the new covenant uh in the the earthly ministry

00:27:22 of christ in his life and death and resurrection so there's a newness aspect of this covenant but

00:27:27 it's really this abrahamic covenant uh that stretches back even to the the easter egg of

00:27:32 the gospel being given even in the garden to adam and eve in genesis chapter three and so it really

00:27:38 yes it's new on the one hand but it's actually much older right it's it's the deep magic that

00:27:44 precedes um like how was david saved the law well he observed the law and he did this no he was

00:27:49 saved by looking ahead to christ so whether it be david or whether it be abraham or whether it be

00:27:54 moses joshua all of these old testament saints jesus is the direct lineage of them their

00:27:59 completion their fulfillment it's christ right how are adam and eve saved well god said in the

00:28:06 garden specifically he said there will be enmity between your offspring and the offspring of the

00:28:10 serpent and he said that the serpent will strike his heel so you will have not just offspring

00:28:17 posterity in the plural but singular there will be a seed one of your offspring a son will

00:28:24 eventually come from your lineage and satan he will strike his heel but your son he will crush 0.73

00:28:31 his head. How were Adam and Eve saved? They were saved because they had faith in the serpent 0.97

00:28:37 crusher, in the promised seed, in the promised offspring of the woman who would eventually come

00:28:42 and deliver them from the power of the serpent. Adam and Eve were saved, in other words, by grace

00:28:48 alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone. Abraham was saved by grace alone, through faith

00:28:53 alone, in Christ alone. Isaac, the same. Jacob, the same. All the way down through the Old Testament

00:28:59 and we are saved the same under the new covenant as new testament christians today the only

00:29:05 distinction is this before the cross old testament christians not no jews no old testament christians

00:29:13 they were saved by looking forward to christ with the eyes of faith we are saved by looking back to

00:29:19 christ with the eyes of faith that is the only distinction christian historic christian doctrine

00:29:25 has taught this for 2,000 years. It is a novel, poisonous heresy to think anything else. And that

00:29:34 is the introduction of Darby and Schofield. That's when things began to change. This is not

00:29:39 the way. Dispensationalism, two different tracks, Judaism being just the continuity, 1.00

00:29:45 and Christians taking the exit ramp. That is novel thinking in the big scheme of 2,000 years 1.00

00:29:51 of church history. Yep. And Jesus in his incarnation is going to be the mystery revealed,

00:29:57 right? This is what Paul appeals to in the New Testament, which is, okay, we read in Romans 4

00:30:02 that Abraham's faith was counted to him as righteousness. And that mystery is revealed

00:30:07 in the New Testament, in the New Covenant, in Jesus. And this is why we can look back into

00:30:12 the Old Testament and see it with a very clear picture what the proto-evangelism is, what Isaiah 0.79

00:30:18 53 is referring to in a way that the Jews of today are blinded in that. 0.94

00:30:25 They still can't see it. 0.91

00:30:26 Isaiah 53, well, that's about the Jewish people. 0.85

00:30:29 No, it's about Jesus. 0.85

00:30:31 Yeah.

00:30:31 And if that weren't enough in terms of Paul's explanation in the epistles, Jesus himself

00:30:37 in the gospels is making that point.

00:30:39 He's referring to the Jewish leadership, the Pharisees and the Sadducees and saying, you

00:30:43 are blinded.

00:30:44 You think Matthew 15 in terms of the oral tradition and what they had taught, how they

00:30:48 had begun to teach the law, Jesus is coming and calling that out and saying, you do not understand.

00:30:54 You are blinded to this. Go ahead. I was just going to say, and to finish, you are teaching

00:30:58 the commandments of men. You aren't teaching the commandments of God. Right. And when Jesus says,

00:31:02 it's so important to understand there's multiple places in the gospel narratives where Jesus

00:31:06 precedes his thoughts, his teaching that he's about to espouse by saying, you have heard it

00:31:11 was said. Now, when he references that, there's a lot of modern Christians who think that Jesus,

00:31:16 you have heard it said is a reference that Jesus is referencing Moses and therefore speaking of

00:31:25 the Mosaic law under the old covenant that God gave to Israel as though that were the commandments

00:31:30 of men, as though that were the traditions of men. Now, when Jesus says you have heard it was said,

00:31:35 sometimes it is a direct quote of something that God spoke through Moses. But what he's specifically

00:31:41 getting at is he's speaking of the oral tradition that by the time of Jesus, right? So think about

00:31:47 how much worse it's been perverted now with the Mishnah, with the Talmud, and 2,000 years of 0.94

00:31:52 rejecting the Logos, Judaism, rejecting Jews, rejecting the Logos, the living word, who is

00:31:59 Christ Jesus. But even 2,000 years ago, it's much worse now. But 2,000 years ago, by the time of 0.59

00:32:04 Christ's earthly ministry, they had already gotten very, very far off the rail. So when Jesus says,

00:32:10 you have heard it was said, he's not referencing commandments of men given by Moses. No, that's the

00:32:16 commandments of God. That was God's commandments. And so Jesus, he even says, I have not come to

00:32:21 abolish the law, the law of God given through Moses is what he's getting at, but rather to

00:32:26 fulfill the law. He says this, I tell you the truth, not heaven and earth will pass away

00:32:31 before one jot or tittle, right? One dotted I or cross T of the law of God passes away. So

00:32:40 jesus didn't come and pit himself against moses and that's how so many christians sadly protestant

00:32:46 christians think of it jesus versus moses gospel versus law grace versus whatever uh legalism you

00:32:53 know uh no what jesus when he says you have heard it said but i tell you that that is a juxtaposition

00:32:59 to be clear that there's he's coming against something he's about to counter something so

00:33:04 you have heard it said but i tell you but it's not you have heard it said aka moses being the

00:33:09 law of men but me being the son of god and grace no he's saying you have heard it said by all your 0.57

00:33:17 jewish rabbinical oral tradition commentaries that have perverted moses but i tell you this is what

00:33:25 god actually said through moses which he upholds he doesn't abolish but fulfills and upholds and

00:33:30 then he gets even to the deeper application the true exegesis so so really what it is it's not

00:33:36 jesus ain't moses said but i say so jesus versus moses no it's moses interpreted through the

00:33:43 rebellious perverted rabbinical oral tradition of the time of jesus which is only worse now

00:33:48 two thousand years more for them to cook in their rebellion it's only worse now but at the time what 0.69

00:33:53 jesus is saying is there's moses exegeted by the rabbis with a perverse exegesis perverse

00:34:01 interpretation, but I tell you, also still Moses, but what it really means is this. So Moses, do not

00:34:08 murder. And the correct exegesis, Jesus exegeting Moses, is you can murder even at the level of the

00:34:15 heart, right? The rabbinical exegesis, there's so many different things that could be said,

00:34:20 but here's the headline, right? This is kind of in short, the summary, what the Judaic perverse 1.00

00:34:28 rabbis were doing in their interpretation of the law of god not commandments of men 0.53

00:34:33 they were adding the commandments of men by perversely interpreting the law of god given 0.95

00:34:37 by moses and in a nutshell what they did was they took god's law through moses and they perverted it

00:34:43 by making it outwardly accessible doable so they would take a commandment from moses and they would

00:34:50 make it really really easy you can divorce your wife for burning the toast you just got to have

00:34:54 your paperwork in order. Just got to give her a paper, right? Or you cannot murder quite easily 0.78

00:35:01 while still harboring hatred for your brother, murderous hatred in your heart. But as long as

00:35:07 you don't drive a knife intentionally through his chest, you're good, right? Or you can swear

00:35:13 and cross your fingers and be deceitful. Notice this. My goodness. When you think of, oh yeah,

00:35:19 there really is a long heritage, a long history precedent of this lawyer type religion. That's

00:35:26 what Judaism is. It's the religion of lawyers. It's litigation. And it's the whole thing is 1.00

00:35:32 trying to find loopholes to somehow be able to tip your hat to God while defrauding and robbing

00:35:39 your common man. And so already in terms of swearing or oaths or giving your word,

00:35:45 And again, 2,000 years, it's only gotten exponentially worse.

00:35:50 But even at the time of Christ, they were saying, well, you know what?

00:35:53 You can swear by the temple, the house of God.

00:35:56 My father's house shall be a house of prayer for all nations.

00:35:58 You can take that and swear by it.

00:36:01 Blaspheme.

00:36:03 And you can do this and not be bound by your word.

00:36:07 So you can say, look, I promise that I'm going to pay you this amount for this service or

00:36:13 this good. And I give you my word by the temple. And what was it really? Like it's childish. It's,

00:36:20 it's, it's lawyers using, you know, high level litigation and vernacular, but really it's

00:36:25 imagine a five-year-old child just with technical jargon, but a five-year-old child, the equivalent

00:36:30 is, um, dad, yeah, I'll do what you say. Um, and then later on doing the exact opposite.

00:36:36 And when you're called out for it saying, well, yeah, I said that, but I had my fingers crossed

00:36:39 behind my back. Doesn't count. That's what they were doing. So you can swear by the temple, give

00:36:45 your word, and then boldface lie to your fellow man and defraud him and rob him. And you can do

00:36:54 so while giving your word and swearing by the house of God, which is a house of prayer for all

00:36:59 nations, as long as you didn't swear by the gold of the temple. So then Jesus takes this and he

00:37:05 says, no, no, but I tell you, it's not the gold that makes the temple holy. Which is it? The gold

00:37:11 that makes the temple holy? Or is it the temple in the very presence of God that sanctifies the

00:37:16 gold? So think about that just as one case study. When Jesus says, you have heard it said, but I

00:37:21 tell you, in reference to this portion of the gospel narratives, this is an example that Jesus

00:37:26 gives, swearing by the gold of the temple versus swearing by the temple. Is Jesus juxtaposing

00:37:31 against Moses? No, that's not a law of Moses. The law of Moses does not say, hey, you can swear

00:37:36 and give your word by the temple of God and break it, so long as you don't specifically swear by the

00:37:42 gold of the temple. But Jesus says, no, swearing by, no, no, no, that's not Jesus versus Moses.

00:37:49 That swearing by the gold being the only technical thing that holds you to your oath,

00:37:53 that wasn't Moses, that was rabbis. So Jesus already, again, I can't overemphasize this 0.93

00:38:02 enough, 2,000 years ago, Jesus is already combating rabbinical Judaism as a heresy. 0.91

00:38:11 Rabbinical Judaism as a heresy, Jesus saw it that way and gave the bulk of his preaching ministry 0.87

00:38:19 to that, combating that 2,000 years ago, it was already that bad. Jesus is not combating 0.98

00:38:26 grace versus law, gospel versus law, Jesus versus Moses. No, it's Jesus exegeting Moses,

00:38:35 which is not the commandments of men, but the law of God that he did not come to abolish,

00:38:38 but to fulfill. Jesus properly interpreting Moses over and against the rabbis perverting

00:38:46 the law of God given through Moses. And that perversion that was already alive and well 0.98

00:38:54 just became more solidified through oral tradition, the Mishnah, and then eventually

00:38:59 inscripturated, codified in the Talmud, both the Jerusalem Talmud and then with more weight

00:39:09 and authority in their religion through the Babylonian Talmud. That's Judaism. 0.83

00:39:16 Yep. It is not Christianity minus the New Testament. It is a whole other religion. It is 0.81

00:39:21 just as blasphemous, just as perverse, just as false as Islam. And here's the deal. This is why 1.00

00:39:28 we're talking about it. Most evangelical Christians will say, yeah, Judaism isn't Christianity. You 0.52

00:39:33 need to be a Christian. But they carve out this third way. So they'll say there's Christianity, 0.99

00:39:38 the true religion, and then there are false religions. And they'll then begin to name

00:39:42 Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, you know, Krishna, all these different things. And then they'll say,

00:39:49 but there's this halfway house. It's not entirely true, but it certainly doesn't deserve to be 0.99

00:39:55 spoken of as entirely false, like Islam, Islam. I mean, you want catnip for boomer evangelicals? 0.78

00:40:04 Just talk about how bad Islam is. You want to lose every donation check from any evangelical 1.00

00:40:11 boomer currently alive in the United States of America? Talk about how bad Judaism is, right? 1.00

00:40:17 But the point is, Judaism is every bit as bad. It's Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism. And here's the 1.00

00:40:23 thing, ironically, and I would just say, look, it's pass-fail system. True Christianity, false, 1.00

00:40:29 these all other religions. But if we did want to say that there's a third category, if anything, 1.00

00:40:35 if anything, Judaism would be worse on two accounts. Number one, because the particular

00:40:41 false religion that is more garnered more sympathy from Christians and therefore more subtle and more 1.00

00:40:49 deceptive, therefore more dangerous would be worse, right? I don't see a ton of evangelical

00:40:56 Christians right now saying, oh, you know, Islam has a lot of good points, you know, and I, you know,

00:41:01 Muslims, I think they might be just like us. And maybe we're on the same team. I don't see that.

00:41:06 But I do see a lot of that language when it comes to Judaism, when it comes to Jews, and when it

00:41:10 comes to the modern nation state of Israel. So number one, if anything, it's just, it's pass 0.77

00:41:15 or fail. It's true, Christianity, and then false, every other major world religion falls in the 0.99

00:41:22 false category. But if we want to make a third category, it wouldn't be halfway between true 0.95

00:41:26 false and that judaism gets a carve out gets special treatment gets the the kid gloves no

00:41:31 of anything it should be viewed as the worst of the false religions for two reasons one more subtle 0.98

00:41:38 more deceptive therefore more dangerous and number two islam will send you to hell so don't miss 0.99

00:41:43 this disclaimer islam is false it'll send you to hell buddhism false send you to hell islam fall 1.00

00:41:49 or Hinduism false, send you to hell. 1.00

00:41:52 That said, there is no major world religion 1.00

00:41:55 that has a more blasphemous and negative view 0.98

00:41:59 of the God-man Jesus Christ than Judaism. 1.00

00:42:03 Muslims are wrong and they are deceived. 1.00

00:42:06 They do not recognize the deity of Jesus Christ. 1.00

00:42:09 And yet, they still honor him. 0.96

00:42:13 Buddhists honor Jesus. 0.94

00:42:15 They don't worship him. 1.00

00:42:16 They don't view him as Lord. 0.58

00:42:17 But Buddhists honor Jesus. 0.69

00:42:18 Hindus honor Jesus, Muslims honor Jesus, Jews believe he's in hell, currently burning in 1.00

00:42:25 excrement. So if we do want to get to, I'm content to just say, look, there's true Christianity and 0.99

00:42:31 false every other religion. But if you want to go there and say there's a third category, I'm fine 0.99

00:42:36 to do it. I'll play ball. But the third category would be reserved for Judaism, but not as something

00:42:42 halfway in between true and false, but it would be beyond the false as the most false, most innate 0.58

00:42:48 blatantly hostile and subtle and deceptive false religion of all time. It is absolutely lost on

00:42:56 Westerners how hair-splitting the Talmud is. So you had, you can show this graph on the screen, 0.67

00:43:01 Nathan, you have Moses and the Torah, which is the law. You also have the prophets and the history

00:43:05 books and some other writing. But on the Torah, as you were mentioning earlier, Joel, you have

00:43:09 the Mishnah, which is the oral tradition. And so this was what Jesus was combating at the time,

00:43:14 and it wasn't written down yet. It was passed down by learning and repetition, and already that was

00:43:19 bad. But practically, it was memorized. Now, what emerged after the destruction of the Second

00:43:26 Temple, well, how is it that as Jews are dispersed, the diaspora, dispersed across most of modern day

00:43:33 would be Rome and then into Europe, well, how do you kind of keep the record straight? If you have 0.52

00:43:37 two people, we've played the game telephone, one person memorizes this 500 miles away, and another

00:43:43 person memorizes this, well, as time goes on, you're going to be unable to keep the story

00:43:47 straight. And so the Mishnah, oral tradition, Gemara, commentary on the oral tradition,

00:43:53 which is the oral tradition derived from Moses, becomes that compilation of the Talmud.

00:43:57 And I'm going to bring it to modern day. Okay, this is interesting. This is theological.

00:44:02 Why does it matter? You live in a world in America that has been Talmudified. And I'll 0.86

00:44:07 explain how it is in a minute. But all of that combined makes the Talmud. And some of 0.64

00:44:12 the examples from the Talmud because, again, it's this commentary and this, well, what about this

00:44:16 case and what about this case of the Torah on Moses is it's absolutely hair-splitting? Here's

00:44:23 one example from it. If a divorce document, this is in Gittin 21a, if a divorce document, this is

00:44:29 in the Talmud, is written with one letter off, so you misspell a name, is she still divorced? That's

00:44:35 what the Talmud is, is it's arguments. Well, Rabbi so-and-so says that if one letter is off, then she

00:44:39 has really not been served the writ of divorce. Here's another one. If someone throws a divorce

00:44:44 document to his wife and it lands closer to him than to her, is she still divorced? Well,

00:44:51 he threw it, but it's still closer to him. And so technically, has she been served papers? Is

00:44:56 she still divorced? Pages upon pages of rabbis arguing, well, technically we have Moses and he

00:45:03 said she needs to have this. And so if you throw it, but it doesn't get that far enough, then

00:45:07 actually a big thing is the sabbath jesus attacks us again and again in his ministry you have they're

00:45:14 called uh trancates again and again these whole sections what is permitted on the sabbath what is

00:45:19 not uh if you drag a bench and it might make a furrow is that technically plowing right you guys

00:45:26 have uh there's elevators here in the united states you can pick up so you can pick up and

00:45:30 carry a chair or a bench but you can't drag it because you might be plowing well according to 0.85

00:45:35 which rabbi? Well, rabbi so-and-so thinks that it's plowing, and then another rabbi might disagree.

00:45:40 If a building collapses, how many stones can you remove before it's construction? So if Antonio,

00:45:46 heaven forbid, his house collapsed on the Sunday, if I technically moved 15 pieces of wood off,

00:45:50 had I completed construction on the Sabbath? And after the temple is destroyed, you have to get

00:45:55 this, after AD 70, what you don't have in Judaism 2, sacrifices and a priestly system. So not only

00:46:02 do you have all the law-keeping, but you then lost the mechanism by which you atone for sin.

00:46:07 So you have all this law-keeping made even worse by the fact, I can't go and offer a sacrifice. 0.79

00:46:12 Day of Atonement, I've heard Orthodox Jews say, well, what do you do on Day of Atonement, 0.83

00:46:16 this day that Moses set aside as the holiest day in all of Israel to make this offering to atone

00:46:21 for sin? They sit around and they read Torah. There is no sacrifice left. And to bring it modern,

00:46:27 to bring it here, it's like, okay, so Jews do that. Okay, maybe the laws in Israel, 0.97

00:46:31 They're really technical and precise, but what about now?

00:46:36 Well, you live in a world dominated by all of these distinctions.

00:46:40 If you drive to Dallas, the amount of billboards that you will see for if you were injured in an auto accident,

00:46:45 you should contact these lawyers is insane because people have gotten in there and they've said,

00:46:50 well, if we can say he was negligent, he fell asleep while driving a semi-truck and then I was injured from it

00:46:56 and now they owe me millions of dollars.

00:46:58 There's a lot of money to be made in that interest and usury.

00:47:01 I mean, auto dealers are getting to the point they make more money charging usury to you to finance the car than providing the actual service.

00:47:11 Well, who is it that was famous for charging usury, was famous for taking coins? 0.66

00:47:16 The reason we have ridges on our coins is because Jews in the middle centuries would shave off the ends if they didn't have ridges, melt it down, and you've got a little bit extra silver. 0.90

00:47:26 And so we all live in this world now dominated by Talmudic distinctions, dominated by usury, dominated by a very low view. 0.99

00:47:36 They would be called the Goyim. 0.82

00:47:37 So this would be non-Jews, a very low view of Goyim. 1.00

00:47:40 That Goyim, they indulge in sexual perversion. 1.00

00:47:44 They consume mass media. 1.00

00:47:45 They're dumb. 1.00

00:47:46 They're dumb. 1.00

00:47:47 They need their entertainment. 1.00

00:47:48 They need their Netflix. 0.72

00:47:49 They need their slop. 0.87

00:47:50 Charge them usury. 1.00

00:47:51 They'll sit there and take it.

00:47:52 And that is the world we live in.

00:47:53 And it goes all the way back.

00:47:56 to this tradition that arose from the true religion on top of it,

00:48:00 that tried to stuff it, that Jesus had the most antagonism for his ministry.

00:48:06 How many pages of the Gospels are dedicated to Jesus attacking the Pharisees,

00:48:10 to him telling tax collectors and sinners to get it together? 0.81

00:48:13 And he does that.

00:48:14 He does go to dinner with them, but if anything, they're more receptive. 0.99

00:48:17 He goes to dinner, and she's like, yeah, I'm a prostitute. 0.99

00:48:20 And he's like, stop it. 0.99

00:48:21 And she goes, you know what, you're right.

00:48:23 Over and over again, that's the response of sinners who know they need Jesus.

00:48:26 And then there's a group of religious people that are so self-righteous.

00:48:30 He spends the entirety of his earthly ministry, three years, arguing with them.

00:48:35 No, you can't do this and get out of your duties.

00:48:37 You cannot say, well, I'm giving all my money to the church, so I can't take care of my mother and father.

00:48:42 No, the commandments of God are not to be nullified by your human, man-made traditions.

00:48:48 Stop it.

00:48:48 That was 90% of Jesus' ministry. 0.79

00:48:52 And even still today, it's very relevant for how, especially in America, we view Judaism as two sides of the same coin.

00:49:00 We share the Old Testament.

00:49:02 We're kind of like a one-to-one.

00:49:03 No, we're not.

00:49:04 And it has had a terrible impact on how we live now today. 0.98

00:49:09 OnlyFans is run by a Ukrainian Jewish man who got in and said, why don't we go ahead and see if women, if we can make money. 0.97

00:49:17 OnlyFans is one of the most prosperous tech companies because you don't need a lot of employees.

00:49:21 it's mostly the creators that are on there. What if we can make a profit doing that? What if we

00:49:25 could get the Daughters of America to sell their body online and perverse, greedy men to buy it?

00:49:30 You live in a world that's been thoroughly inundated by that, to which we say, no more.

00:49:35 Cut the Judeo. Draw a line through it. It's Christianity or nothing. 0.76

00:49:39 I'll take the Christian, hold the Judeo. 0.99

00:49:41 Yep. I even think of the modern, more famous example of the line that 0.96

00:49:45 sort of encircles Manhattan in New York City. It's this idea today. It's still today. It's this

00:49:51 effort for modern adherence to Judaism. And I think they're predominantly the Orthodox

00:49:57 adherents, but it's this idea that you can evade Sabbath restrictions. Because this is sort of a

00:50:05 private domain as the fishing line encircles the island, you can actually... It's technically

00:50:09 indoor. Yep. You're indoor, you can carry your phone, you can carry all of these different

00:50:13 restrictions are evaded. And really what it is, and we have to say this, it's an effort to trick

00:50:19 God. And if you think about, and we can kind of treat the theological error of the modern Jew 1.00

00:50:25 and the theological error of the modern dispensational Christian separately, but 0.84

00:50:29 if you think about it from the perspective of the Jew, it's still this idea that you are justified

00:50:35 by the law. You are justified, and you go back to all of the litigious aspects of it. I'm justified 0.86

00:50:41 by the law, and therefore, if I can adhere to the law, even by sort of evading it, I'm not

00:50:49 condemned by it. And of course, Paul in Romans 8, chapter 8 says, there's no more condemnation

00:50:57 for those who are in Christ Jesus. The law of the Spirit is actually what justifies you,

00:51:02 not the law of God. So that's sort of the theological error for the Jew. And then if 0.93

00:51:07 you go to the theological error for the modern Christian in the West, it's this idea that,

00:51:12 and it really comes back down to the lack of sort of covenantalism, the view of the continuity of

00:51:18 the Old Testament and the New Testament. And this dispensational view is like, well, there's no

00:51:23 continuity. The Jews of the Old Testament are still the Jews that we see today. And the church 0.97

00:51:28 is something different. And they're not related at all. And of course, this isn't the historical

00:51:33 Christian view. This isn't the Orthodox Christian view. It's just a modern sort of hermeneutic.

00:51:37 And there is a grand irony to that I just want to call out with respect to the modern sort of

00:51:42 dispensational, which is this dispensational hermeneutic leads to what we call antinomianism,

00:51:50 which is actually rejection of the law. The law doesn't matter at all. Meanwhile, the Jews are

00:51:56 this third category that you mentioned, where they're actually trying to adhere to that law 0.97

00:51:59 that we don't think matters at all, but somehow we're still allies in that. And of course, we

00:52:05 disagree with both of those views. We think that both the law is important. We take a covenantal

00:52:08 view. We think the law of God is right and is something we should be obedient to, but we also

00:52:14 recognize that we're not justified by it. And so you see these theological errors, and they're very

00:52:18 plain in Scripture, actually. If you look at both, you just pick up your Bible and you read it,

00:52:24 but also, more importantly, if you look back into the historical Christian sources, you see that

00:52:28 this has been the predominant interpretation, hermeneutic, of these texts until very, very

00:52:34 recently right uh last thing that i wanted to discuss is just getting into some of the practical

00:52:39 implications if we don't get our theology right as christians you might say well i'm not a

00:52:44 dispensationalist you know i'm actually you know a reformed protestant or i'm catholic you know or

00:52:49 i'm eastern orthodox or whatever it may be um but but one kind of linchpin that i have people you

00:52:56 know bring up to me all the time is what about romans chapter 11 what about romans 11 what about

00:53:01 Romans 11. And if you're not careful, so Romans 11 is where, you know, God says boast not against

00:53:07 the branches, right? The natural branches. And this illustration is used by the apostle Paul

00:53:14 of a root. And the root is not Israel. The root is not Jews. The root is not Judaism. The root

00:53:20 is Christ, right? So there's a tree and there's a root and the root is Christ. And that root is

00:53:27 what supports all the branches, natural or wild and grafted in. And there are these natural

00:53:33 branches of the tree that are supported by the root that is Christ. And God, in his sense of

00:53:38 justice, because of the natural branches, Jews, according to the flesh at the time, and the 0.96

00:53:43 rejection of Christ, as is Paul writing in the New Testament, post the earthly ministry of Christ,

00:53:49 his death, resurrection, and ascension. He says because of their rebellion, because of their

00:53:54 unbelief, their hard-heartedness. God has cut off these natural branches, and those Gentiles 1.00

00:54:01 who have faith in Jesus, like a wild olive shoot, they have been grafted into this tree, which again, 1.00

00:54:09 the root is Christ. But then Paul says, boast not against the branches. Yes, you've been grafted in.

00:54:16 Yes, God has shown mercy. Yes, you are now every bit a part of this tree that the root is Christ,

00:54:23 But don't be arrogant, don't be haughty, because then you would be tempted to fall in your arrogance

00:54:29 into the very same sin of rejection and unbelief and rebellion and stiff-neckedness

00:54:34 that God saw fit to cut off the natural branches in the first place.

00:54:39 And then he furthermore says, but if God cut off these branches and was able to graft you in,

00:54:44 would he not also be able to all the more graft back in the natural branches? 0.95

00:54:48 So if Gentiles could be grafted into this Christian tree, couldn't the natural branches 0.97

00:54:56 that were once a part of it, couldn't they also be grafted in, if anything, all the more 0.99

00:55:00 easily?

00:55:01 And this is the quintessential text that is used by many Christians who say, well, I'm

00:55:06 not a dispensationalist, but, and there's always a but, I'm a Reformed Protestant, I'm

00:55:12 a Catholic, I'm Eastern Orthodox, whatever it is, but I still, you know, I see Romans

00:55:17 11 in the Bible, and I see that as a futuristic promise that God is one day going to take the

00:55:25 natural branches, the Jews, and notice how many assumptions are baked into this equation. Number 0.74

00:55:31 one, they are assuming that a Polish man such as Netanyahu is not only a Jew, but he is an ethnic

00:55:42 Jew in the same lineage and heritage as Abraham. That's already a fairly large assumption.

00:55:52 And so guys who reject dispensationalists, Christians of every branch, but rejecting

00:55:58 dispensationalism are still tempted to think, yeah, but we, the Goyim, the Christian, the Gentile,

00:56:06 are still waiting. And yeah, God loves us and he wants to do something special with us,

00:56:12 but there's a prerequisite because Paul goes further in Romans 11. He talks about that the

00:56:17 natural branches will eventually be grafted back in. And if there's separation being cut off from

00:56:24 the tree, which the root is Christ, meant our inclusion, the Gentiles, a wild olive branch 0.64

00:56:30 being grafted in. If the Jews, ethnic Jews rejecting Christ and God therefore rejecting 0.98

00:56:35 them meant our inclusion, then them being actually brought back in and reconciled and grafted back 0.66

00:56:41 in, what will that mean? If their rejection, God rejecting them, was our inclusion, them coming

00:56:46 back in will be even better, even life from the dead, is what the text says. And so in a nutshell,

00:56:54 there are many Christians today who would reject dispensationalism in the technical sense, 1.00

00:56:59 and yet they would still say that we are awaiting a future promise, and that is that the Jews of

00:57:05 today, assumption number one, that the Jews of today are the same as the Jews of the Bible.

00:57:10 That's the first assumption. Number two, that this promise that Paul, and they would assume 0.84

00:57:17 that it's not descriptive language, but prescriptive, and that it's a promise and a prophecy,

00:57:21 that's assumption number two. And number three, they also assume in their hermeneutic that this

00:57:26 is future to us. It was future to the writing, the time of the writing of the text. Paul is writing

00:57:33 the book of Romans, and I and other guys that I trust and biblical scholars would date that around

00:57:38 8055 to 8065, right? So it's pre-8070, 8070, and the sacking of Jerusalem, the destruction of the

00:57:47 temple through Titus, all these things. But what's being assumed is, number one, that the Jews,

00:57:51 modern Jews today, are the Jews of the Bible, that they are, Bibi Netanyahu, Ben Shapiro, that they

00:57:58 are the natural branches. Number two, the language of Romans 11 is a prophetic promise and

00:58:06 prescription rather than simply a descriptive text. Number three assumption is that the fulfillment

00:58:13 of this prescriptive promise, prophecy, is going to be fulfilled in our future and not already

00:58:20 fulfilled in the future of Paul when he wrote it, but long in our past since we are approximately

00:58:26 1,950 years removed from Paul and the writings. So those are three big assumptions, modern Jews 0.99

00:58:34 being the same, just assuming they're the same as the Jews in the Bible. Number two, that this is a 1.00

00:58:38 prescriptive promise, prophecy, rather than a descriptive text, and that it's in our future

00:58:45 still, in the year of our Lord, 2026, rather than simply in Paul's future, the year of our Lord,

00:58:51 AD 55 to 65. Now, here's why it matters. Even if you've rejected dispensationalism,

00:58:59 and if you've rejected that and been able to escape some of the theological heresies

00:59:05 on the political and practical and economic side of the equation, aside from the theological

00:59:10 heresies, even if you escape that by rejecting Schofield, rejecting Darby, rejecting

00:59:15 dispensationalism, but you find yourself over here. I'm not a dispensationalist, but Romans 11

00:59:20 is still in the Bible. And the Jews of today are the Jews of the Bible, the natural branches. And

00:59:25 this is a prescriptive prophecy. They're going to be grafted back in. And them being grafted back

00:59:30 in is absolutely necessary because their disclusion meant our inclusion. And them coming

00:59:36 back in and being reconciled will mean even more blessing for us cattle, us goyim, us Gentile

00:59:43 Christians. It'll mean life from the dead. And that is something that I would say is not just

00:59:48 a few evangelical Christians. That is 90% of Christians today, be it Catholic, be it Eastern

00:59:54 Orthodox, or be it Protestant, that believe we are still awaiting a future prophetic promise, 0.58

01:00:03 assuming that the Jews of today, modern Jews, are the Jews of the Bible, that they are the

01:00:07 natural branches, that they will sometime in our future be grafted back in, and that that's a 0.60

01:00:12 prerequisite, absolutely necessary in order for the fullness of God's blessing to come to us.

01:00:19 That we Christians are still, that God is still, he's blessing us, but he's still holding out.

01:00:25 He's still partially holding out on the fullness of his blessing, whether it be the evangelization

01:00:31 of the nations, that all the nations would come to Christ. So there's still something that we're

01:00:36 waiting on, a global revival or just more of God's prosperity and blessing and kindness.

01:00:42 We Gentile Christians are getting some of God's love, but if we want to get all of it, 0.59

01:00:47 we have to get our Jewish brothers, we have to get Netanyahu to somehow convert to be 0.77

01:00:54 a Christian.

01:00:55 And if we can't do that, then we're going to miss out on this great, you know, future 0.99

01:01:01 eschatological promise and prophecy of God and the blessing of all these Gentile Christians

01:01:06 who are waiting for the Jews to come home. 0.95

01:01:09 Now, practically speaking, theology aside, politically, economically, practically, what does that mean? 0.79

01:01:15 If we're waiting on some glorious promise and blessing from God and the prerequisite, the condition for it, is that Jews come back home, that they come to Christ. 0.89

01:01:26 Well, then one thing that Christian nations, just logically speaking, would be obligated to do is the Jews are never going to repent if they cease to exist. 0.93

01:01:35 and here's the thing about the modern state of israel um on pretty much a 24 hour seven day a 0.98

01:01:45 week basis they are doing everything they can to anger every nation on the planet picking fights 0.78

01:01:51 starting wars going into other countries you heard it here not quite first but maybe fifth 0.79

01:01:57 iran iran venezuela securing oil so that when you start something in iran in support of israel

01:02:05 it doesn't hit oil prices domestically.

01:02:07 Why did we do that?

01:02:08 Well, probably.

01:02:09 I'm not going to make a for sure statement.

01:02:11 We probably deposed a president

01:02:13 so we could have access to oil

01:02:14 so when we start mucking stuff up

01:02:17 in the Middle East. 0.84

01:02:17 So then when we go and help Israel

01:02:19 start a war with Iran,

01:02:21 Israel's economy would still remain intact.

01:02:24 And domestically,

01:02:25 Trump would still get reelected in the midterms

01:02:27 because oil prices.

01:02:28 Because our gas prices don't go up that high.

01:02:30 So we can't do it.

01:02:30 And if you think that there's no correlation there,

01:02:33 well then allow me to uh submit for your consideration another piece of the pie um well

01:02:39 uh we go and kidnap uh venezuela's president and we do so within 48 hours of bibi netanyahu coming

01:02:47 and visiting the white house and sitting down with trump i don't i don't think that's a coincidence

01:02:51 and so the the point is to say this um israel just politically geopolitics just looking at

01:02:57 that realm for a moment is um undeniably hostile in its dealings with other nations right there at

01:03:05 home right sharing a border um no one in the middle east likes israel and and so you're talking

01:03:12 about a nation that is constantly kind of like a like a a little kid who's antagonistic on the

01:03:17 playground and he's going up to all these other kids who are two three times his size and when

01:03:23 their backs are turned he's whacking them in the back of the head he's trying to pick fights 0.99

01:03:26 and he's doing so because he knows his big brother is even bigger than them these other nations 0.93

01:03:31 that's what israel has been doing for approximately 77 years now israel uh like a little punk in the 0.75

01:03:38 middle of the middle east surrounded by by bigger kids on the playground has been whacking them in 0.86

01:03:43 the back of the head knowing that big brother usa us of a big daddy trump big daddy trump and big

01:03:50 daddy bush and big daddy clinton and big daddy all down the line for the last you know three

01:03:55 quarters of a century, that they can go and pick fights as the little twerp on the playground,

01:04:01 but that Western countries, Great Britain, France, and especially the United States, 0.51

01:04:07 that will pay the bill. They can go and start fights. And then when there's a reaction from

01:04:15 Iran or this country or that country, that we'll send the military arsenal. We'll send the check. 1.00

01:04:22 we'll send the soldiers we'll back them up we'll back them up you know because they're picking

01:04:26 fights with people nations bigger than them but we're the biggest of all and and we'll pay the

01:04:31 bill and so my point is even if you're not a dispensationalist i reject darby i reject

01:04:36 schofield i don't have the theological heresies that you're talking about here joel um if you

01:04:40 still think that romans 11 is talking about the natural branches being not the jews back then

01:04:46 but the Jews of today, that the Jews of today are ethnically the correlation, the descendants,

01:04:53 the lineage of the Jews of the Bible, and that these are the natural branches, and that Romans

01:04:58 11 is not descriptive, but prescriptive prophecy, and that it's futuristic, not in Paul's future,

01:05:04 but still 2,000 years removed in our future, in our future, then at minimum, at absolute minimum,

01:05:11 even as a Christian who's not a dispensationalist, has rejected that, you still would have to say,

01:05:16 we want the full blessing of god that life from the dead blessing there's a condition a prerequisite 0.62

01:05:22 for that jews converting to christ and logically practically speaking there's a precondition for 0.91

01:05:29 jews revival among the jews which is they have to survive they have to exist and they are picking 1.00

01:05:36 fights with everyone and we can't let them get wiped off the map and they're not going to stop 1.00

01:05:41 picking fights because they're twerps. And so we just keep having to be a tax farm and pay for 0.98

01:05:48 their survival. So even without being a dispensationalist, you can see why a Christian 1.00

01:05:54 could still have their theology weaponized to say, hey, you know what? Yeah, you're not a 0.67

01:06:00 dispensationalist. And yes, there's only one way to the Father. And yes, Old Testament saints were

01:06:06 saved through faith in Jesus and New Testament saints. I agree with all these kinds of things.

01:06:10 but uh but yes joel we still should be allies politically in geopolitics with israel and yeah

01:06:16 we're still going to have to send them billions and if it gets really bad our sons may still have

01:06:21 to go and die um in in in the desert and be buried in the sand on the other side of the world because 1.00

01:06:27 we're waiting for a futuristic promise life from the dead revival for the world so that gentile 0.66

01:06:33 christians can receive the full love and full blessing of god that doesn't happen unless the 0.87

01:06:37 natural branches are grafted back in. They are the natural branches. We just assume that for some

01:06:42 reason, and the natural branches are kind of suicidal because they go and try to piss off

01:06:48 everyone they possibly can, and we're the only ones keeping them alive. Do you see why that

01:06:53 might be a problem, even while rejecting dispensationalism? It's compelling, too, that

01:06:59 Israel's list of allies, you could say, has really grown thin, and that's because a lot of allies

01:07:05 have had a difficulty articulating the political value that they give to us. We all remember Ted

01:07:09 Cruz on Tucker Carlson. What do they give us tangibly? What do they offer in terms of

01:07:14 intelligence? He couldn't answer. I've seen Ben Shapiro try to do the same thing. Well,

01:07:18 they give us this and they give us that. People just aren't buying it. So one of the big problems

01:07:22 that they have, they don't really offer anything of value. 300 billion has gone out. They've never

01:07:27 come to our defense. They've bombed some of our ships. They've gotten us in trouble with other

01:07:33 muslim countries there and they've offered us well a change jeffrey epstein let's see he 0.97

01:07:38 trafficked our american daughters that that wasn't a help blackmailed our politicians 0.75

01:07:43 potentially bombed the uss liberty bombed the uss liberty they haven't been a great ally might have

01:07:48 been involved with pearl harbor i haven't heard this angle i'll have to look into it maybe save

01:07:53 it for another time but yep but but the point is the reason that they're losing support on the

01:07:58 international stage is because none of their advocates can articulate a solid defense of

01:08:03 what we gain from this partnership because they can't articulate a solid defense because none

01:08:06 exists right and that's where the theological sort of appeal is going to become more important i

01:08:11 think they recognize this it's it's sort of like stomping on the gas like oh this is the angle we

01:08:16 need to take because it's the only angle because the political angle won't work anymore i think

01:08:20 that's right that's so insightful antonio is right um as as you know like elon musk will say

01:08:26 you are the media as because, um, some of the restrictions and suppression and these kinds

01:08:31 of things, cancel culture and all that, you know, the, the, the legacy media, you know,

01:08:35 strangle hold on the truth and those kinds of, as that has kind of lessened, um, significantly

01:08:39 less than the last five years. Um, and we praise God for that. And people are seeing more of the

01:08:44 truth exposed politically, um, financially, economically, morally, um, these kinds of

01:08:51 things, the corruption, as people are seeing that, there becomes, like what Wes said and what you

01:08:56 echoed, Antonio, the long and short of it is that the average American, especially those who aren't

01:09:02 already fully lobotomized and indoctrinated, older generations, boomers especially, but for

01:09:08 just about every American under the age of 45 that didn't really have a dog in the fight and

01:09:13 is now seeing more objective reporting with less bias because there's more freedom of speech

01:09:21 and social media and all these things. There is no political or economic argument for why we should

01:09:28 support Israel. So then Israel, knowing that, because they're like, yeah, we can't make that 0.97

01:09:33 argument. They're not stupid. They're not stupid. Yeah. So the Jews in Israel, Netanyahu knows, 0.99

01:09:37 yeah, what's going to be our angle? What's our line of attack? Well, he knows it's not going to

01:09:41 be busting out a whiteboard and showing all the practical advantages to a political alliance

01:09:46 because he knows, yeah, we don't do anything for you, go in. We hate you. We have never done 0.82

01:09:51 anything for you. It is 100% a one-sided relationship and always has been. So there's

01:09:55 no angle there at all. So then it's just relying on, but you're Christians, guys, and your Bible

01:10:02 tells you to support us. That is the angle. And that is not going to lessen. That's going to ramp

01:10:10 up. Because used to, they could kind of say, take three angles. Well, economically, we're helpful.

01:10:15 Politically, we're helpful. And theologically, you're morally obligated. But now that the news

01:10:21 is actually no longer suppressed, politically, we can see, oh, actually, there's nothing there.

01:10:25 Economically, there's nothing there. So they're going to lean more, not less, but more on the

01:10:30 theological religious piece and try to raise up a new crop, a whole new crop of evangelical goyim 1.00

01:10:37 who think that their Bible tells them 0.83

01:10:41 that even though we get nothing out of the deal practically,

01:10:44 we still got to keep these twerps alive 0.97

01:10:47 and they're not going to stop picking fights 1.00

01:10:50 and all the nations surrounding them

01:10:51 are not going to stop being angry

01:10:53 because they're picking fights

01:10:54 and we have to keep paying the bill.

01:10:56 Pay it with your taxes

01:10:57 and pay it with the blood of your sons.

01:11:00 That's where we're at.

01:11:02 Go ahead.

01:11:02 I was going to say,

01:11:03 and any president or Senate candidate,

01:11:05 they need the vote of white evangelicals.

01:11:06 they are the largest voting bloc. And so even practically, I don't think President Trump really

01:11:10 cares, but he knows he has to keep white evangelicals happy. And to keep white evangelicals

01:11:14 happy, it is move the embassy to Jerusalem. It is support Israel's war with Iran. Again and again,

01:11:20 they, yeah, I kind of got to support these guys, if anything, just to get reelected. That's the

01:11:25 vice hold that lobbying groups like AIPAC, the foreign prime minister, that's the hold that

01:11:30 they have that you have to support them in order to get reelected because your electorate is so

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01:17:26 segment sort of address this with respect to the book i think what we're trying to do with the book

01:17:30 um it obviously starts with the theological and we're trying to make the case that this is this

01:17:35 is not the right way for Christians to think. But of course, politics is going to be downstream 0.78

01:17:40 from that. And as we look, even I was just thinking about sort of the relevance of the book now and

01:17:45 why it's so important for this to get out and to grow. We have the midterms coming up. I mean,

01:17:50 a lot can happen between now and then, but certainly stance on Israel is going to be a big

01:17:55 issue in that midterm election. And people are already starting to consider this has become a

01:17:59 national conversation. You hear at some of the bigger conferences being held by sort of right

01:18:03 wing conservative organizations these questions are being asked in the q a section why do we think

01:18:08 this about israel uh charlie kirk god bless him before he passed again and again people will come

01:18:13 up to him as an event at his events why do you support them why do you do this why do you do

01:18:17 that like to the point where like every single event he's like oh here comes this objection again

01:18:22 here comes that question and so it's going to be it's important that uh christians um and

01:18:27 conservatives are actually equipped with the the background the historical background the theological

01:18:31 background to ask those questions, ask them in a fashion that the pundit, whoever it is,

01:18:37 is actually put to task, or the politician is actually put to task to say, I have to wrestle

01:18:42 with this. I have to think through this issue. And it's not going anywhere. And so I think the

01:18:46 book is a big part of that. Obviously, we're going to be unafraid in talking about these things. And

01:18:50 I'm sure many more will join. Obviously, that's kind of the idea of NXR. We want to build an

01:18:55 institution where we can have people come alongside us who can join in the fight on this

01:19:00 issue, but obviously just winning the nation back for Christ, winning the nation back for heritage

01:19:04 Americans. And so that's certainly the start. It's going to take a lot of effort, a lot of

01:19:09 mobilization, but most importantly, it's going to take the information. It's going to take,

01:19:13 it's actually going to know, it's going to take knowing the arguments and knowing the history.

01:19:17 Yeah, it takes numbers. It takes influence. It takes organic social media pressure. I appreciate

01:19:27 the way the question is worded. What can we do in our current time to have our government,

01:19:33 political, and religious landscape no longer affiliate with Israel? I'll leave the religious 1.00

01:19:41 landscape out for a second, but what can we do to persuade, to move, influence our government,

01:19:49 political leaders to no longer give give the farm to israel uh the answer to that is simple and and

01:19:58 this is what what is so frustrating but at the same time using it as an advantage this is what

01:20:03 is a blessing in disguise what makes it actually so doable here's the great thing about your

01:20:08 government they are convictionless people for better for worse they don't they don't give a 0.86

01:20:16 crap here's a nice thing so what can we do to get our government and political people to back away 0.95

01:20:21 from israel it's actually really easy because they don't actually have an ideological dog in 0.97

01:20:26 the fight they they don't care right ted cruz doesn't have convictions when ted cruz says well

01:20:32 i do this because my bible says as tucker right you know um profoundly pointed out what your bible

01:20:38 says is where does it say it in your bible he has no clue so ted cruz is not operating because of

01:20:43 a genuine biblical conviction the nice thing about your government a lot of convictions but that's

01:20:47 against banning homosexuality in uganda so to be fair to him he has convictions cancun for travel 0.51

01:20:52 right uganda he's got some convictions abandoning texas when people are freezing in their homes

01:20:58 things like yeah he does have some convictions um but the but the point is this um by and large

01:21:04 your political leaders your government um is not doing something because they have profound

01:21:11 convictions for it. They're doing it because it gets them elected. It gets them elected.

01:21:18 So all it requires is this. It's the people versus money. American people versus Jewish money.

01:21:27 That's what it is. And the moment that any politician in American government, locally, 0.91

01:21:33 federally, at any level, the moment that they determine that the power of the people in terms

01:21:39 of just raw numerical votes of the american people uh the the number of votes from the american

01:21:47 people that they will lose is a greater cost than the jewish money they would gain it's over

01:21:54 it's done that's all it takes so it's actually the answer to the question is quite simple what 0.99

01:22:00 do we do to get our government to stop supporting you know the the funny hat people um or all these

01:22:06 things we don't like how do you get them to stop supporting this and that in ukraine don't give

01:22:10 them your vote correct you just get enough people to say i'm sorry we're not coming out and and

01:22:14 that's why you know like people you know given a lot of we've seen it recently you know uh nick

01:22:20 fuentes getting a lot of grief of like oh well he's you know he's already um talking about you

01:22:25 know uh newsome you know gavin newsome he's he's a chad you know like oh look at this white family

01:22:31 and look at his jawline and like okay um i don't think that nick's going to vote for newsome but

01:22:38 what he is saying is and and he has has actually you know people say you know people misrepresent

01:22:43 him and say he's never said this no he is articulated very explicitly he said um i'm i'm

01:22:48 not saying emphatically that i won't vote for vance i'm saying there's three years and he he

01:22:53 has three years to give me a reason you better give me a reason people misrepresented him with

01:22:58 the Kamala and Trump thing in 2024 that he told people to vote for Kamala. He did not tell people

01:23:03 to vote for Kamala. He encouraged people to threaten to withhold their vote from Trump

01:23:08 because he could tell, and he was right, he was right, he could tell that the campaign

01:23:14 for Trump's second term was very different in 2024 than it was back in 2016. He could tell,

01:23:21 wait a second, Trump is cozying up with the Adelsons, $100 million donation. He's beholden

01:23:26 donor interest. He's getting softer, way softer on his Reddit against abortion. All these things

01:23:33 that we say that we care about, this is not the same Trump. And so we need to pressure him now.

01:23:38 We can't say, well, we just got to get him into office and then we'll call him out. And I'll be

01:23:42 honest, I said that and I have to own that. I was like, we can't survive a Kamala presidency,

01:23:48 which I still kind of feel that way. That would have been terrible too.

01:23:51 It would have been terrible. But Nick is right in his basic, you know, political sixth sense

01:23:57 in saying, no, the only time, you don't have power once they're in. You only have power

01:24:02 until they're in. That's the only time that we have any power at all. And so he's right in saying,

01:24:07 yeah, we should actually threaten, say, no, you do not get to assume any longer on evangelical

01:24:14 political christians and our vote you support israel at the cost of america we will let a

01:24:21 democrat i'm not saying we vote for them but we will abstain voting for for you and we will allow

01:24:27 for better for worse we will allow a democrat to come into office i will not be voting for ted

01:24:32 cruz he is our senator here in texas i won't do it yeah we've done it but i'll lose to this left

01:24:37 we're not going to do it again the short-term pain is better than the long-term message that

01:24:41 sense. I will take the long-term message with the short-term pain, then continue to settle for,

01:24:47 well, at least he's not as bad as this. Nope. I won't vote for you. You cannot count on it.

01:24:51 Correct. And just again, to distinguish a little bit and add some specific language for clarity,

01:24:57 we would not describe ourselves as accelerationist. So we're not saying,

01:25:03 hey, we're going to go out of our way to make sure that the worst of any situation takes place

01:25:08 because it just all needs to burn.

01:25:11 Like we have said multiple times, Wes, you have said,

01:25:13 if there's any hope at all, we need as much runway as possible.

01:25:18 As much time.

01:25:19 As much time as possible at a familial level individually.

01:25:23 I need as much time as possible to be able to save my personal money

01:25:27 and purchase land and a water well and a generator or a few and Starlink

01:25:34 and get my family to safety if things go down.

01:25:38 right so individually we need time nationally politically we need time we're not going to be

01:25:45 able to clean it so we're not accelerationist saying hey let's vote for gavin let's vote for

01:25:50 this person so it's i'm not voting for ted cruz i'm also not voting for beto o'rourke if he runs

01:25:54 against him correct i'm not voting the other way either right so there's uh you can just assume on

01:25:59 the goyim and the christian evangelicals to vote for you if you have gop next to your name no matter

01:26:04 what there's that position we're done with that yep okay and then there's the other position 0.80

01:26:08 accelerationist we're going to vote for the worst monster you can possibly imagine because the whole

01:26:13 thing just needs to burn well maybe some single guy could do that we're fathers we're not doing

01:26:19 that yeah i love my children i love america i love my children more right and so we're not doing that 0.95

01:26:25 so we're not uh going to be the uh the sheeple and the dumb goyim who give the gopr vote no matter 0.94

01:26:30 one. We're also not accelerationists. What we're saying is kind of a middle way here and saying, 0.94

01:26:36 no, we're willing to not accelerate to the ultimate demise and destruction, but we are

01:26:42 willing to temporarily experience greater pain to teach the GOP a lesson. Vivek needs to lose

01:26:48 Ohio. And if he loses it to the Democrat, the Democrat will be worse for those few years than

01:26:54 vivek would have been but ohio and the gop there needs to know you can never again put forward an 0.76

01:27:02 indian man who is um who is a hindu who denies christian faith and who tells white americans 0.71

01:27:11 what it means to be an american right you can't ever present a candidate like that again because 0.97

01:27:16 he'll get slaughtered and so it is worth um a few years being worse with a democrat governor in

01:27:22 ohio to teach the gop holy snap uh we uh whoever we put for next time he better wear be a guy who 0.57

01:27:32 wears shoes in interviews can't never vivek this is against amy acton a jewish woman who was a

01:27:39 covid radical she's terrible it's like she will be worse than vivek no question but vivek can't

01:27:44 win so it's like but come on surely this is worse nope actually we if we were in ohio which thank

01:27:50 the lord were not thank goodness we were uh we still wouldn't do it we're even as much as we

01:27:55 spent this whole episode saying we don't appreciate jewish influence in our politics and we still 0.94

01:28:00 would not just okay we'll take the lesser evil uh nope we will take neither of them because in

01:28:04 neither of those scenarios do you have a country left in between talk about so there's the get in

01:28:09 line approach it's just be be the assumed constituency of the gop there's the accelerationist

01:28:14 approach and there's this middle approach and i think there's one element of it that um is worth

01:28:18 actually saying, or you think about the art of the possible, which is when you're no longer in

01:28:22 assumed constituency, not only do you have the GOP and the natural pandering that comes toward

01:28:27 the issues of this now constituency that's up for grabs, but you also see from the left,

01:28:34 you would see, I mean, it's possible, I'm not confident that it would happen, but you can

01:28:37 imagine a scenario on immigration, for example, where this sort of moderate sort of Democrat is

01:28:44 now starting to appeal in rhetoric to the middle, to this new middle, which is this constituency

01:28:50 that says, we're not going to get in line with the GOP. And so you start to see, and then of

01:28:54 course the GOP is looking at the left, trying to win that constituency and says, well, we're right

01:28:58 wing, we have to go more right wing on this issue of immigration. And so that's how, I mean, the

01:29:03 reality is the American system works like the squeaky wheel and the squeaky wheel is going to

01:29:08 get the grease. And that really is what this approach is. It's just being smart. It's understanding

01:29:12 the political landscape and how it functions and then being willing again to your point being

01:29:17 willing to suffer if it if need be in the short term but of course our hope is in this strategy

01:29:22 that we actually get the effects that we desire amen well said all right uh that

01:29:27 john baptist with a five dollar super chat and he got that answer you're welcome that is that is

01:29:34 value if i have to say so myself what a deal all right uh read the next one in turn yeah so this

01:29:41 dude's uh this dude rocks great supporter he sent ten dollars and says i'm honestly sick of the james

01:29:46 white loudly complaining at you he either needs to call you offline or come on your show to talk

01:29:51 and let the public see it take pot shots on x and his show is tiresome taking pot shots on x and his

01:29:57 show is tiresome yep that's true uh let me i'm going to be real short on this uh but let me be

01:30:01 clear um i don't want to fight fire with fire um james white has i think has been um really unfair

01:30:11 uh he may be right and i may be wrong about some things i don't i don't think this is one of those

01:30:17 things but probably some things um but but aside from right and wrong um i i hope that any objective

01:30:26 person, not just guys who are diehard supporters of us within XR or right response. But even the

01:30:34 guys who are kind of in the middle and don't really have a team on either side, they're not

01:30:39 really for Joel Webin or for James White. I'm hoping that those guys in the middle, just kind

01:30:44 of objective, non-biased onlookers, I hope that you recognize that for the last year, about 14

01:30:51 months now uh and it's not hyperbole when i say this i'm being very careful and accurate um every

01:30:59 online spat has been initiated by james white every single one every single one between the

01:31:06 two of us i i am not coming out and so that said this is what i want to get across uh the only

01:31:13 reason we're mentioning his name is because we want to honor the super chats and read them on

01:31:16 the air and you put his name in the super chat and that's okay i'm not giving you a hard time

01:31:20 that's why we're saying his name if you hadn't done that um i want the record to say i would

01:31:24 not have said his name and and so my point is this uh could we play clips from james white

01:31:29 and do response videos and yeah we could um i think he's wrong about some things but aside from

01:31:36 some of the positions he might be right and i might be wrong and vice versa aside from position

01:31:41 disposition is the big thing that i want you to see and in terms of his disposition it is

01:31:46 a disposition of hostility and instigation he is the instigator we are not even with that

01:31:54 the bible says that he's an older man and even to guys younger guys like timothy or titus rebuke an

01:32:02 older man with gentleness as you would a father so my word to james white would be um sir i am

01:32:11 grateful for your service i've learned a lot from you in years past um you may be right with some

01:32:19 of your positions i do think respectfully that you're wrong in your disposition and the way that

01:32:24 you're instigating fights and i respectfully and politely ask you please move on that's all i have

01:32:32 to say well said i'm gonna hit uh the rumble super chats we will also be reading rumble super

01:32:37 chats i'm doing it because my laptop battery right now on the edge get it mr big smile sent

01:32:42 in super chat two super chats two good ones one with a smiley face and one that said as long as

01:32:48 they get our vote by default we will keep losing correct 100 100 i've worked in politics too like

01:32:53 well uh i'll i'll vote for them because i don't want the person that's worse but i won't give

01:32:58 them money that doesn't matter to them anyone substantial ted cruz does not need your 20

01:33:02 The only thing you have is your vote

01:33:05 And once you have given it to him

01:33:08 He is not beholden to you

01:33:09 Well what about my money and my black walk

01:33:11 No, none of that matters

01:33:12 He needs your vote come November 5th

01:33:14 Whatever it would be

01:33:15 If you keep voting for the least offensive candidate

01:33:19 You'll keep losing by default

01:33:21 JP McGlone

01:33:24 Long time supporter, great friend

01:33:25 Said I will tune in on Rumble

01:33:27 Only moving forward assuming you guys read the chat here

01:33:29 We are reading the chat

01:33:31 we're going to read the chat yeah we will be reading super chats x currently doesn't have

01:33:35 that system that we know um so we are are broadcasting live on three platforms rumble

01:33:41 youtube x we will be reading super chats uh from both rumble and youtube yep so if you're following

01:33:48 us on rumble and you're like ah well you know i'd rather follow you on rumble but i guess i'll tune

01:33:53 into youtube because you're not going to read the rumble super chats we are we will good news

01:33:56 Christmas came again, early or late.

01:33:58 It's still Christmas.

01:34:00 12 days of Christmas. 0.88

01:34:00 No, we had Epiphany Sunday. 0.92

01:34:02 Oh, snap.

01:34:03 It's the first day after Christmas.

01:34:05 All right.

01:34:05 There we go.

01:34:06 All right.

01:34:07 Trotto, longtime supporter, sent in a super chat, said, instructions unclear.

01:34:13 This is in relation to everything we were talking about with the Pharisees.

01:34:16 Made exegetical gold calves. 0.98

01:34:18 It's true.

01:34:18 They have. 0.94

01:34:19 Many evangelicals have done that with Jesus and the Pharisees.

01:34:22 Well, I remember a pastor a long time ago, not obviously our church,

01:34:25 but uh he got up and he said you know this woman when speaking of the woman with the issue of blood

01:34:30 under the law of moses for so long she'd been neglected and outcast to society but then jesus

01:34:35 comes in and he draws near to her no you just pitted jesus against the ceremonial law that he

01:34:39 himself initiated that said if you're ceremonially unclean you need to be in the outer fringes of the

01:34:44 camp right literally in that pitted jesus against jesus against jesus moses gave the law of god

01:34:50 Here's a nifty little theological hack

01:34:52 Moses gave the law of God 0.53

01:34:54 Jesus is God

01:34:55 So if Jesus is going against Moses

01:34:58 He's going against the law of God

01:34:59 Which Moses gave

01:35:00 And Jesus is God 0.78

01:35:01 So Jesus is going against Jesus 1.00

01:35:03 And Jesus is not retarded 1.00

01:35:04 Stop that 1.00

01:35:05 Well said

01:35:06 Antonio, go ahead

01:35:08 Yeah, the Edgerow whistle sent $5

01:35:10 And says top three ways to see any change here

01:35:12 Go after the leaders, Huckabee, etc.

01:35:15 Or grassroots style

01:35:16 We have enough issues finding pastors to call sin, sin

01:35:19 and then followed up with one more that said just thank you all for your efforts and work

01:35:22 god bless you god bless you thank you uh who is that the edge edger owl whistle how do you say

01:35:30 edgerow whistle edgerow okay okay okay i see now edgerow whistle it's it's a little small it's i

01:35:36 promise i know uh i've been to the leering center i know how to read you know i just it's the print

01:35:42 is small you have glasses we don't i get it you're the farthest away on the table too and also like

01:35:47 i'm like 40 years older than wes 60 years older than antonio you're 50 feet back yeah i'm on the

01:35:53 brink of death over here an elderly man all right um okay what's the next one i was gonna say to in

01:36:00 response to his comment we addressed this a little bit but uh you put pressure on both so sure it's

01:36:04 grassroots it's new organizations but it also is putting pressure on the current ones so the ones

01:36:09 that are institutionalized have the access to the mike huckabees of the world uh yeah you put

01:36:14 pressure on them. And also, the other guys that are not, like us, you start your own thing. So

01:36:19 it's both. You don't just run with one play. And you have to acknowledge, too, the generational

01:36:23 or the demographic element here as well. You think about dispensational Christians. The reality is, 0.61

01:36:27 if you look at the SBC, you look at so many of the churches that comprise the SBC, the reality

01:36:32 is, is propaganda has generational effects. Sometimes it's just incredibly difficult to

01:36:37 convince people who are 65 years old that everything they've ever learned and everything

01:36:42 that you can imagine, everything they've ever taught is wrong with respect to this theological

01:36:46 issue, with respect to a stance on Israel, that's going to be really difficult. And so I think the

01:36:51 exhortation for young men is don't abandon the church. If you're in a church and you're

01:36:56 frustrated about the direction of that church or the direction of the congregation or the church's

01:37:04 affiliations, the reality is you need to stay in and play the long battle. And you need to fight

01:37:09 and fight and fight to win that church over. And that's really, I think, how the landscape will

01:37:13 start to see those changes emerge in the coming decade as that generational sort of issue is

01:37:20 solved. Yep. Well said. J.D. Peabody, have we read this one yet? We have not. He said,

01:37:26 love you gents. H-N-Y-C-I-K. Happy New Year. Christ is King. Amen. Thank you. Appreciate that. 1.00

01:37:33 gavin uh fortin 1584 he gave us a 20 super chat appreciate that he said uh when you think of joel

01:37:41 webin now more than ever you have to capitalize the w w's in the chat boys uh i go by joel webin

01:37:48 capital w uh but you can also call me wool webin if you just want to get a double double w in there

01:37:55 it's like william wolf ww who's this ww all right uh wes take the next all right this dude rocks

01:38:02 Why did you choose to publish

01:38:04 So the book Hyphenated Heresy

01:38:05 Why did you choose to publish this book through Amazon

01:38:08 And not through NNXR self-published

01:38:10 Like New Christendom Press

01:38:11 Or even New Christendom Press themselves 0.93

01:38:13 You answer that

01:38:14 So when it comes to books

01:38:17 Practically speaking

01:38:19 You can bulk order them yourselves

01:38:20 Just a little bit behind the scenes

01:38:21 So if you were an author

01:38:22 I want to publish a book

01:38:23 And my dad actually published a book way back in the day

01:38:25 We got 200 copies pre-printed

01:38:27 Pre-paid for

01:38:28 Delivered them to the house

01:38:29 Every time you get an order

01:38:30 you take your take your book to the post office and you give it to them and it ships and it takes

01:38:35 i don't know like 80 to 90 days probably through usps to get there so you could do that and with

01:38:40 the amount that we've already sold we're already talking like daily trips to the post office for

01:38:45 our team and to be honest we just we have better things to do than to have a shipping company of

01:38:49 books sitting here and every day we are taking out hundreds of books to the post office to ship

01:38:55 and also everybody has to wait longer so like new christian press you guys know we love those guys

01:38:59 close friends and here's i'll just be honest here's here's the answer um why not do it the

01:39:04 way they did it um one brian survey currently has more children than me and they're older than my

01:39:08 children yeah it's like what does that have to do with it well who do you think's shipping those

01:39:12 books seriously right who do you think is eric cons boys brian survey you know they've got i

01:39:20 mean you talk about child labor you know sweat shops i mean they've got their three-year-olds

01:39:23 little winnies in there you know doing yeah um so so part of it is honestly um new christian

01:39:28 ogden they they do have a bigger team and and the kids you know i'm being a little bit funny but the

01:39:33 kids do help and which is great there's nothing wrong with that uh but they have a bigger team

01:39:37 and and the kids are involved and they're all kind of shipping together to get you know many

01:39:41 hands make for light work um and so we just don't quite have the manpower yet uh to be able to do

01:39:47 that so that's one practical reason second reason is uh we did want people to get the books right

01:39:51 away and a new christian there's nothing wrong with this and i'm not dogging on them we love

01:39:56 those guys um but if you order one of their books um and you order our book like order them at the

01:40:02 same time like right now just for fun you know go ahead and order um white knights and reviling

01:40:07 wives and the hyphenated heresy and order them on the same day and uh and and report back and tell

01:40:12 me what the difference in time is for delivery yeah i'm looking at amazon right now if i ordered

01:40:16 this i would have it here on wednesday correct uh you order their book and it's it's gonna be

01:40:21 Two, two Wednesdays, two Wednesdays. Yeah. And so, uh, and that's not the end of the world.

01:40:25 That's not immoral or wrong or anything like that. Uh, they are able to have a much higher

01:40:29 profit margin. God bless God. There's a good stewardship there. And eventually we may move

01:40:34 to that model, but for us, um, it being our first book published with NXR brand new media company

01:40:40 and all these kinds of things, we wanted people to get the book right away. We want it to be on

01:40:44 a platform that, that everyone's familiar with. Um, and for us, uh, the profit margin, it matters.

01:40:50 Like we've got salaries to pay and people to feed and those kinds of things.

01:40:53 But for our first book, we wanted, we just wanted to hit the numbers.

01:40:57 And so we know that like, by, you know, our, like it's, it's cents on the dollar that we're

01:41:01 getting, you know, because of Amazon, but everybody uses Amazon.

01:41:05 People will get their book right away.

01:41:06 We don't have to bring our kids up, you know, to the studio to be shipping, you know, every

01:41:10 Saturday and Friday.

01:41:12 And so this, this allows us to do it with less manpower as we're kind of still building

01:41:16 our team and people to get their book right away so the excitement doesn't get nullified and die

01:41:23 off. And it uses a familiarized platform so we can get as many sales as possible with a very small

01:41:31 profit margin, but more sales for more exposure. This is our first book and we want our first book

01:41:36 to be a banger. I'd rather sell 10,000 copies, which is possible. We have that trajectory right

01:41:43 now. I'd rather sell 10,000 copies and be a bestseller and barely even break even financially.

01:41:52 But people get their book right away. We get lots of sales and lots of exposure, at least for our

01:41:57 first book. And we'll look at maybe making some adaptions for future books. And for the record,

01:42:04 there are future books, and there's one already in the wings. It's in the process of being written

01:42:10 with a couple new authors with names that you'll recognize that we're really excited about. So

01:42:17 that's it. All right, next one. Last one, I think. Super chat from Ransomed Soul, Psalm 4915.

01:42:23 God bless you, brothers. Keep up the good work. Thank you. Amen. Awesome. Really, really appreciate

01:42:28 that. So here at the very end, if we're able to, so I text during the live stream, and so I'm

01:42:35 putting my tech team on the spot a little bit uh but nathan is i just because this one we just

01:42:41 launched the book and this episode is about the book the hyphenated heresy judeo-christianity

01:42:46 um i wanted to show the trailer just one more time for guys who are just hopping on to the

01:42:51 live stream nathan are we ready to go for that all right here we go here is the trailer one more

01:42:56 time thanks uh for tuning in uh we're just going to go out with the trailer but uh it's it's well

01:43:01 made dissident media to give them some props uh they helped us with this trailer did an excellent

01:43:06 job this is for the book right here in front of me the hyphenated heresy judeo-christianity

01:43:11 available now on amazon check out this trailer at the foot of mount sinai a nation met its god

01:43:19 in thunder and fire from that covenant flowed the faith of abraham moses and the prophets

01:43:27 fulfilled not replaced in Christ but somewhere between the martyrs and the

01:43:34 modern West the truth was blurred politicians and pastors began speaking

01:43:40 of a Judeo-Christian civilization a phrase born not of Sinai but in

01:43:47 Washington tracing its roots not to Moses but to the Pharisees the hyphenated

01:43:55 heresy challenges the myth of the hyphen, tracing how it reshaped Christian

01:44:00 identity, redefined the church's witness, and bound modern faith to political

01:44:06 Zionism. Pick up your copy today on Amazon.com.

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The NXR Podcast - January 05, 2026

NXR Livestream - The Hyphenated Heresy ｜ Why Judeo-Christianity Must Die

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