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- April 10, 2026
NXR Livestream - Trump Isn't King Cyrus; He's King Saul
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I just mentioned a name, but a woman who I saw the other night on television just ripped some poor idiot apart.
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Megyn Kelly is here, and she's doing...
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Come up! Come up here, Megyn.
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By the way, I'm having a great time up here. Are you having a good time?
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Is he the greatest interviewer?
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Candace Owens, I watched her, and I saw her coming.
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I said, you know, I'm pretty good at star power.
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I look at her, and I say, that's a star.
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I just want to finish by saying your reputation's amazing.
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I will not let you down.
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You will be very, very impressed.
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Donald Trump, let me say this.
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My audience, I'd say 90% supports you, okay?
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And you definitely have shown your knowledge of geopolitical systems.
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I just want to finish by saying your reputation's amazing.
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I will not let you down.
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You will be very, very impressed, I hope.
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And I think we'll be speaking a lot,
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But you'll be looking at me in a year and a year or two years.
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Let's give me a little bit of a time to run things.
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But a year into office, you'll be saying, wow, I remember that interview.
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He said he was going to do it, and he did a great job.
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You'll be very proud of our country.
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Well, I'm impressed.
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I mean, you're saying you're fully committed.
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You know, there's no future if we don't take this country back.
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Donald Trump, I hope you can help uncripple America.
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Thank you so much, sir, that you will be attacked for coming on.
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And we know you know that.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Imagine you're Donald Trump.
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You're from New York City.
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You become famous in New York City.
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You make your fortune in New York City.
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And all of a sudden, the leadership of New York City
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decides they're going to destroy you
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because they don't like your politics.
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And so they, yeah, boo.
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Imagine if that were you, though.
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And they try and take everything that you have.
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They try and put you in prison.
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They try and put your children in prison.
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If that happened to you,
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how often do you think you'd be going back to New York City?
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How about never?
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And yet he's here.
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it's like getting thrown out of a bar. And you think to yourself, well, you know, all my friends
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are in the bar. And you approach the door and there's the bouncer like, you're not allowed in
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here. But from behind the bouncer, you hear the cheers of your friend, come on in. And the bouncer
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hangs his head in shame. He's embarrassed that he's working for the man trying to keep the most
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popular person out of the bar. And that's Donald Trump back in the city that produced him with no
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embarrassment at all in a room full of his friends. It is vile on every level. It begins
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with a promise to use the U.S. military, our military, to destroy civilian infrastructure
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in another country, which is to say to commit a war crime, a moral crime against the people
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of the country. Those people who are in direct contact with the president need to say no.
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i'll resign i'll do whatever i can do legally to stop this because this is insane and if given the
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order i'm not carrying it out but the president has had enough of tucker and yeah i'm just going
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to admit it i sent the president tucker carlson's clip so he can see that he says about him i do
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and i want that tucker carlson to know that i'm the one who knifed him from the front i want him
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to know i'm not talking about physical violence physical knifing but yeah i'm the one that sent
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the president all your tucker because he deserves to see the fact that you are lying about him and
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you are smearing him and you are saying the most vile things about our country and our president
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and you are creating so much chaos you're going to cause the democrats to take the house and the
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senate and you are endangering our national security by whitewashing this barbaric death
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ideological known as Islam. So I just hope that he knows that, yes, Tucker, there are people out
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there who actually have the courage to take your dribble and take your bull to the president and
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to stand up against you. I don't know who Tucker Carlson thinks he is. He thinks he's so popular.
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Even President Trump today called him out and said he's like a third rate podcaster.
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I don't know why Tucker Carlson thinks he's so special. He's not. He's not special. He is
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endangering the lives of christians of catholics of jews and all non-muslims in the way that he
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continues to whitewash this death cult ideology and the way that he continues to incite violence
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against evangelicals and jewish americans and even the president himself here we are it's been said
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for several years at this point i've even said it myself years ago that president trump
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is indicative of King Cyrus, right? If you're not familiar with the Old Testament passages,
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King Cyrus was a Persian king who took over Babylon, and after taking over Babylon, although
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he did not fear God, he himself was not a follower of God, he still had some sense of
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a commendation and a sense of feeling obligated to serve the people of Israel under the old
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covenant. They had been in captivity at this point for 70 years in Babylon. Persian king Cyrus takes
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over and then he says, you know what? I don't fear God. I don't believe in God, but I'm going to be
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good to God's people. I'm going to actually resource the people of God out of my own treasury,
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out of his own resources to go back to Israel and to rebuild Jerusalem, to rebuild the city,
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the walls, the temple, and to re-inhabit the land so that sacrifices to their God can be made again
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in proper order. And I think that God will bless our kingdom even for supporting that. And so that
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analogy has been used on multiple occasions to describe President Trump, because most God-fearing
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Christians, right, there are a lot of people who, you know, drank the Kool-Aid, but, you know, as
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much as I have supported Trump in the past, I never went this far, because I'm a Christian pastor,
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and so I never went to the point of saying, oh, well, you know what, I actually think that Trump
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is a good, moral Christian man. Nobody hardly went that far except for a bunch of MAGA cultists
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who will just say whatever Trump wants to hear. Pretty much everybody knows that Trump,
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in his essence, is a 1990s liberal Democrat who posed with Hugh Hefner, who has had affairs,
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a serial adulterer who has been through multiple marriages. He's not an ideologue. Trump doesn't
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really have convictions. The only thing that he's actually ideological about, that he actually
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believes and is held to, would be certain economic policies, right? The guy's good with business,
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with economics, with money, you know, so the tariffs or things like that. Other than that,
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he doesn't have a dog in the fight. He doesn't have a genuine, true, you know, authentic
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conviction to serve the Lord, or to do this, or to do that. He's, you know, oh, well, I think
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homosexuality is not marriage, and then it's gays for Trump, you know, just a few years later, or
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oh, you know, I think there should be some kind of penalty for the woman who commits abortion. He
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said that. He said that on national television. Yes, not only should abortion be outlawed, should
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it be done away with and abolished, but in order for that to happen, in order for justice to be
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done, there needs to be some kind of civil penalty for the woman. Trump said that on live television,
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and a few years later, all of a sudden, he's backtracking his rhetoric on the dignity of
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the unborn. So there's not really any moral or cultural or political ideology or conviction
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that Trump has actually held to. He's willing to sway on this, sway on that. People who are never
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Trumpers like Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, Lindsey Graham, all these individuals, all of a sudden
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are now MAGA, right? I've even seen that there's going to be some kind of event hosted by Grindr
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at the White House or White House adjacent. And this has been posted online. My response when I
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saw that was, I guess Trump's right. I guess Lindsey Graham, a homosexual, childish, childless
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old man who can be spotted at Disney World holding a little kid's toy all by himself,
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alone, wandering like he has dementia. Trump has said, Lindsey Graham, Mark Levin, these guys are
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MAGA. Well, now that Grindr is going to be hosting an event at the White House, I guess Lindsey
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Graham really is MAGA. I guess that really is true these days. Well, the point is this.
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Trump has completely, completely betrayed at this point his true base. And although there was this
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sentiment of, okay, Trump is not a good, moral, ideological, convicted Christian man, maybe he's
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still a King Cyrus, right? He's a guy who doesn't honor the Lord himself, but like the King of
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Persia, he comes into power and he's used under the providence of God to do good for God's people.
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He himself is not among God's people, but he's good to God's people so that they can restore,
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they can be resourced to go and rebuild and worship the Lord with freedom, with liberty,
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with safety and security. And that was kind of, that was the idea. That was the big analogy that
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many Christians, like I said, including myself years ago, used to describe Donald Trump. But
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the reality that I think we have to come to at this point is that he's not King Cyrus. He is
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much more likened to King Saul. King Saul was a prominent and pivotal figure in the history of
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Old Covenant Israel. Previous to the kings, the dynasty in Israel, there was a time of the judges.
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There were prophets in the land, but very often they were killed and had no honor. They would
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speak for God, but they didn't have any civil power. They didn't have civil office. They were
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prophets that were crying out in the wilderness, guys like Isaiah and Jeremiah and Ezekiel,
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and they spoke for God. But ultimately, under the time of the judges, there was this system in which
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every man, the book of Judges says this numerous times, every man in Israel did what was right in
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his own eyes. It was a time of chaos. It was a time where there wasn't really any true biblical
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order. There wasn't any civil justice. There wasn't any real order. And we've had that time
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for decades here in the United States. And Trump came in like the first king in Israel. After the
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time of the judges, the first king appointed by God was Donald Trump. And Trump comes into Israel
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and he comes, or, you know, Saul, King Saul comes into Israel, like Trump came into America
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as the first king, and he establishes order, and the people love him. But over time, the prophet
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at that time, Samuel, who anointed Saul as king, eventually says, the Spirit of God has departed
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from you. You were once small in your own eyes. You once had some sense of humility. Now, I know
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that's difficult to take that part of the analogy and tie it to Trump, because I don't know if he's
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ever been small in his own eyes. I don't know if he's... I think that, you know, there are some
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strengths that can be said about Trump, but humility is probably not one of them. It'd be
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hard for me to say that, you know, in the microphone on camera without just bursting
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into laughter. So it's hard to describe Trump as someone who is ever humble. But the point still is
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that even Trump, even if he started off with some measure of pride, I think that that pride,
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that arrogance has grown and it's grown and it's grown exponentially to where he's no longer even
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close to being small in his own eyes, but he's gotten too big for his britches. And Samuel is
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this prophet who comes to King Saul and says, at that point, he says, the Spirit of God has
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departed from you. And so rather than you having your own heir who will inherit the kingdom,
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it's going to go to another man who God will choose, a man outside of your dynasty, outside
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of your lineage, someone unsuspected, someone that right now is a lowly shepherd in his father's
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field, tending his father's sheep, David. But this man will be a warrior, and he will be a man after
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God's own heart. And so I'm calling it now. I'm going to just say right now, I think it may not
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happen in 2028, although I pray and hope that it does. It may be a 2032 kind of scenario. But I
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think that God used Trump to disrupt the Bush dynasty, the neocons, this decades-long period
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in America's history where everyone did what was right in their own eyes. There's a system.
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It seems as though there's order, but it's all unjust. It's all being propped up. It's all fake
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and gay. It's all being propped up by centralized banks and globalist order and all these kinds of
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things. It's not good for actual Americans. It's not good for the people of God. It's certainly
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not good for Christians. And Trump, like King Saul, King Saul came into the time of the judges
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where everyone's doing right, what's right in their own eyes. And he establishes order. But
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then King Saul gets arrogant and the kingdom departs from him. The spirit of God departs from
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him and David is anointed as king. And there's this great civil war, this struggle between the
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house of David and the house of Saul. And there are more and more people who are, you know, they
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were maybe appointed with King Saul and had some degree of honor and esteem. Saul thought well of
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him, but they eventually started to see, now the Spirit of God is moving from Saul to David. And
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they started changing their allegiance, not because it was personal, not because they
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personally liked David more than they liked Saul, but because they loved the Lord. Wherever the
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Spirit of the Lord was, that's where they wanted to be. And here's the deal. I don't agree with
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everything that Alex Jones has said. Alex Jones has said, you know, some things that I think are
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wrong. And I think on some things, he's been a little bit late to the game. And on other things,
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he was incredibly early. I mean, the guy called 9-11, right? I mean, that's insane. Like a year
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in advance, called it. Trump says he called it. But Alex Jones actually did. Here's the thing.
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I think Alex Jones has done a lot of good. Obviously, people make mistakes. He's made
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mistakes, but Alex Jones has done a lot of good. And he was one of the first guys, a forebearer
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for Donald Trump in his corner, pushing him onto the main stage. And I think of Alex Jones in some
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sense, similar, and you could throw Tucker in here and a few others, but especially Jones. I want to
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give him credit for a moment. I think of him like the wilderness kind of prophet that doesn't have
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a formal civil position, but he has a voice and he's speaking the word of the Lord and calling
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things that are not as though they are. And I think of, you know, what Samuel did as the prophet
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in Israel at the time, anointing Saul, but then later on actually removing himself from Saul as
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he sees the Spirit of God begin to depart. And then all of a sudden, you know, God leads Samuel,
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the prophet to go and anoint David. And I see that kind of, it's not really a King Cyrus moment
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anymore. I think that that rhetoric held up for a number of years that Trump is like King Cyrus.
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He's not a follower of God, but he's resourcing the people of God so they can go and rebuild
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Israel. They can restore the land and the temple and true free worship to the triune God.
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There was a time where that rhetoric held up. The King Cyrus analogy seemed to be a good
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descriptor of Donald Trump. These days, King Saul is a much more accurate descriptor of Trump. And
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if Trump is Saul, the question remains, who is David? Who is going to be the person who ultimately
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replaces Saul, who is actually a man after God's own heart, who will do what is right, who will
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stay small in his own eyes, who won't get too big for his britches, who won't become arrogant, who
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won't turn and betray um his own men the same men who when when david was not yet formally in power
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but the anointing was already there there are a group of men david's mighty men who are hanging
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out with him in the caves and at the time it wasn't people of prominence early on when david
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is first anointed but he hasn't come into the throne it's everyone who is disparaged everyone
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who is in debt the bible says this look at first and second samuel it's it's all it's all the
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disenfranchised young men in Israel who've been disenfranchised by Saul, who had had high hopes
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for Saul, but Saul, his heart began to change and began to betray the people of Israel. And it's
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these men who have courage, they have grit, they have resolve, and yet they are down on their luck.
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They're disparaged, they're indebted, you know, all these things. And they're the ones who, when
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David is actually, he's not in power yet, but it's clear that he's going to be the Spirit of God,
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is upon him. They're the ones who rallied to David, the future king who will be a king after
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God's own heart. They rally to David. They go into the caves of Adullam and they're hiding out on the
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run from Saul because Saul has actually gone mad by this point. He's gone crazy, right? The Bible
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even says that the Lord sent, there was an evil spirit sent by the Lord in his sovereignty to
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afflict Saul. Because Saul had departed from the Lord, the Lord departed from Saul and even began
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to send an evil spirit to afflict and torment Saul, to drive him more and more away from his
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senses, more and more into his madness, to where he even tried to spear David. He tried to throw a
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spear and pin David to the wall when David was playing the harp in Saul's palace. David was
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serving Saul, trying to help Saul, and yet Saul turns against him. But all the disenfranchised
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young men in Israel who have no kinetic power or authority or strength at that moment, but
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vast potential. It's untapped, but it's there. David can see it. David can see these are the
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men who will become mighty men one day, and those men can see in David he has the anointing. He has
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the Spirit of God, and they begin to link arms with one another. A civil war as David begins to
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get more and more prominence in Israel, and the prominence of Saul begins to fade more and more.
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Eventually, there's a split in Israel, a divide of, I'm with Saul, I'm with David, and Saul gets
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more and more jealous and more and more angry, because there are moments where people begin to
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sing songs. Saul has killed his thousands, but David, his tens of thousands, and Saul is enraged,
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right? Trump has done some good, but question mark, blank, who is it? He has done even more good,
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and the anger, and jealousy, and bitterness, and mad-driven loss of senses of Saul begin to
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compound more and more as David is gaining more and more of God's favor, and more and more disenchanted,
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disenfranchised men began to rally to David's side. I think that this is what's going on.
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And Samuel himself, the prophet who anointed Saul and was with him, a great defender of Saul and
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God's appointment of him for a time. Eventually as God, his spirit begins to leave Saul. Then Samuel
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turns from Saul also and finds David and anoints him. And I think of Trump like Saul. I think of
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multiple characters. You could say a Tucker, but especially an Alex Jones like Samuel.
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And the question is, who is David? Who is going to be the young man? And here's the deal. We're
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done with geriatric politics. We've got to be. We've got to be done with a gynocracy of, hey,
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we've got something conservative to say. So quick, somebody find a busty blonde woman
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in a pantsuit to stand up and say it for us because all the men are cowering and their
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their knees are buckling no no it's got to be a man and it needs to be a man who preferably
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doesn't have to have a walker who preferably doesn't have dementia who preferably you know
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has more than just you know four or five years of life left a man who's under the age of 115
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That would be nice. So a young man like David, a spirit of God departing from Saul, the prophet
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of God, Samuel, who once loved Saul, now having to leave Saul, and there's a sadness and a grief
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involved in it. Samuel doesn't want to leave Saul, but he has to stay true. His true loyalty is not
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to Saul, but to the Lord. And then looking, where's the shepherd boy? Where's the shepherd boy
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who by the Spirit of God, despite his own natural abilities, has had the strength and the power to
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tear apart the lion, to conquer the bear, and one day will kill the giant to free Israel from its
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captivity by the Philistines? Who is this boy? Who is it that the young men are running to to hide
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out in the caves for now until God gives them grace and ascendancy and power? That's what's
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going on. It's not Trump who is King Cyrus. It is Donald Trump who has turned into King Saul,
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and we should be looking for who is David. Who can we throw our lot in with? Trump, like Saul,
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changed the game, right? The time of the judges, there's no king in Israel. Every man does what's
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right in his own eyes. But then God says, we're going to have a kingship. And even though there's
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a sense in which asking for a king Israel even asking for a king was ultimately in some sense
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it was a regression because God had been their king and they wanted a king to be like all the
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other nations but here's the deal God could have said no he could have said no he said yes because
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he knew that even though their motives were wrong in Israel to ask for a king that ultimately it was
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his will to establish to move from the time of judges to a new time a new era in Israel the time
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of the kings, and he appointed as his first king Saul. Saul ultimately became a traitor,
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a traitor. And then the second king, now the kingship as a system is established, someone who
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can go in like a wrecking ball, break down the previous systems of Israel, and establish order
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and strong leadership. That new system under Saul is established, but Saul, even though he's ushering
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in, inaugurating the right system, he's the wrong man. But the second guy after Saul who replaces
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him, a guy that no one suspected, a guy who's not a part of Saul's fan club, he was early on,
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but then later on Saul has jealousy and bitterness towards him, is lashing out against him,
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throwing a spear to try to pin him to the wall. That guy becomes the next king in Israel,
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and he's a man after God's own heart.
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That's what I'm praying for.
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I love my country.
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I love America.
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I want to see a David-like figure,
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a guy who is zealous for the Lord,
00:23:41.900
a guy who has a warrior's heart,
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a guy who also knows how to be tender
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and a shepherd of sheep,
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a guy who is small in his own eyes
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and by the grace of God remains humble
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to his dying day,
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who can be a true king of Israel,
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who can be a true leader, a great man in America, who can take the good of King Saul and the new
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precedent that it started in Israel, but then be not just in the right new system, but the right
00:24:12.280
man who takes that, all the good, and expands it without the evil, without the Achilles heel,
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without the pride, without the jealousy, without the betrayal. That's what we're looking for.
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notes below radical christian nationalist pastor joel weapon joel weapon i'm gonna talk about
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joel weapon joel weapon is an accident
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we're back we have a heck of an episode for you guys today we're going to be bringing receipts but
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first we're going to start with a little bit of humor because i came in hot with that cold open
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uh wes you just during that commercial you shared a joke with us and i wrote it down in my diary
00:26:31.920
uh wesley had a very funny joke today but i actually had thought of the joke before wes
00:26:36.280
and the cool thing is he thought about it because i first thought about it so this is mine
00:26:41.320
if it lands it's mine and if not antonio's joke through you coming out through me exactly but
00:26:46.300
We'll be watching the chat, and if people don't like the joke, then it really was Wesley's.
00:26:50.220
Well, here's the deal.
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It's great news.
00:26:52.000
Guys, we got our wall.
00:26:54.460
We got it.
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Trump promised it in 2016.
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He's like, we are going to build a wall.
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Now, the bad news is it is not a border wall in the south of Texas.
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It is a wall of text, enough that you can't even see through your neighborhood.
00:27:06.860
Look at this wall of text.
00:27:07.860
I mean, my goodness.
00:27:09.280
Is this a James White tweet or a Donald Trump's post?
00:27:12.280
Instead of $4.3 billion, it was just 4.3 billion words.
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4.3 billion characters.
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I mean, no paragraph breaks.
00:27:21.300
There's probably periods in there somewhere I don't even know.
00:27:23.600
My goodness.
00:27:24.540
Just a rant.
00:27:25.200
And this is what we're going off of.
00:27:26.440
We don't have time.
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I mean, we don't have three hours to sit here to read this whole thing.
00:27:30.200
But Trump basically attacking Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Candace Owens.
00:27:34.940
Those are the four named in that.
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He calls them low IQ.
00:27:37.460
He calls Candace Owens ugly, which is a pretty low hit.
00:27:40.600
and so that's what we're referencing bankrupt alex jones all of that so that's what we're
00:27:45.620
referencing we don't have time to read it we got the wall it's not a border wall it is a wall of
00:27:50.640
text from the president himself it's a true social wall yeah yeah yeah so i i think uh the everyone's
00:27:56.580
talking about this on x obviously over the last couple days or at least since trump has posted
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this um and and it's just pointing putting a little bit more clarity around the division i
00:28:05.500
think that's happened in MAGA between what Mark Levin would dub the new media, the woke
00:28:10.860
Reich, you know, you saw in the clip in the, in the, before the cold open and Laura Loomer
00:28:15.300
and, you know, this, this idea that these, the Candace's, the Alex's, the, you know,
00:28:21.620
the Tucker's, these people are fundamentally disloyal to Trump.
00:28:24.280
These are people who, who never were MAGA, actually Mark Levin all along with MAGA.
00:28:28.440
Well, I want to jump, I want to jump back to Trump 1.0.
00:28:31.440
I'm going to read a couple articles here, and you'll see actually very poignantly that that was never the case.
00:28:37.020
This is actually, you see in the thumbnail, why Trump changed.
00:28:40.100
We never did.
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Well, this is going to become really clear.
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So I'm going to jump back all the way to the 2016 election.
00:28:45.860
This is before November of 2016 when Trump was elected.
00:28:48.820
This is an article from Politico that was published on April 8th.
00:28:53.680
And it says, the hashtag NeverTrump movement just got another backer.
00:28:58.620
conservative radio host mark levin threatened on friday that he will not support donald trump in
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the general election should he be the nominee levin a strong supporter of texas senator ted
00:29:08.340
cruz said that trump's allies had made the billionaire republican front runner toxic
00:29:13.160
quote as a result of what trump supporters have attempted here particularly roger stone who was
00:29:18.200
obviously the biggest trump backer early on in the primary i am not voting for donald trump
00:29:24.320
Period, Levin said.
00:29:26.340
I'll jump down a little bit.
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He says, quote, so I want to congratulate Roger Stone.
00:29:31.160
And if anybody has a problem with that, Donald Trump, you can talk to Roger Stone.
00:29:36.100
These bully, dirty tricks, Nixonian tactics, they're only going to backfire.
00:29:41.460
So count me as never Trump.
00:29:44.760
He says later, if they piss me off one more time, I'm going to urge millions and millions of you.
00:29:49.780
Should he get the nomination not to vote for him either, Levin said.
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Now, before we even talk about that, I'm going to jump over January 28th, 2016.
00:30:00.080
Let's read an article from Politico published by your own Tucker Carlson.
00:30:05.480
This is three months before Levin said he's never Trump.
00:30:09.000
And he says, conservative voters are being scolded.
00:30:12.060
Now, he's talking about conservative voters who were supporting Donald Trump at the time.
00:30:16.100
Conservative voters are being scolded for supporting a candidate
00:30:18.480
they consider conservative because it would be bad for conservatism and by the way the people
00:30:24.300
doing the scolding they're the ones who've been advocating for open borders nation building and
00:30:29.520
countries whose populations hate us and trade deals that eliminated jobs while enriching their
00:30:34.740
donors all while implicitly mocking the base for its worries about abortion gay marriage and the
00:30:41.060
pace of demographic change now they're telling their voters to shut up and obey and if they
00:30:46.380
don't they're liberal okay so he's talking about the gop establishment in 2016 for all those people
00:30:52.700
who are supporting supporting trump saying he's our guy on abortion he's our guy on gay marriage
00:30:56.980
he's our guy in terms of no more foreign wars he's our guy on white replacement they're being
00:31:03.100
scolded by the gop establishment what are they calling them liberal they're not conservative
00:31:08.640
they're woke right so so you have tucker carlson back in 2016 rightly identifying donald trump as
00:31:15.780
the guy for this segment of the party this this uh overlooked scolded chastised element of the
00:31:22.560
party and tucker carlson's recognizing trump speaking to that again the title of the article
00:31:26.920
is donald trump is shocking yes yes he's vulgar but he's right so so who changed here like if you
00:31:34.860
read these two things it's levin the neocon by the way levin constitutional conservative neocon
00:31:40.240
very hawkish always been a supporter of israel trump meanwhile back in 2016 if you remember was
00:31:45.640
getting a ton of flack for for having spoken out against the iraq war no more foreign wars but here
00:31:50.600
we are fast forward 10 years who's supporting the foreign war who's supporting israel who's hawkish
00:31:56.440
in the neocon foreign policy ben shapiro mark levin lindsey graham well lindsey graham just to
00:32:02.860
keep kind of playing out the tape here lindsey graham was a prominent never trumper in 2016
00:32:07.180
calling donald trump unfit for office a race-baiting xenophobic religious bigot literally
00:32:13.520
to the T every single one of these people hated him in 2016 they were against him now they're
00:32:19.120
singing his praises now they're MAGA no but now they're the core and like Tucker Tucker is like
00:32:23.560
all of a sudden we can't remember when he was saying the exact same things having the same
00:32:28.020
exact positions 10 years ago that he did today and somehow that's not MAGA anymore so so it's
00:32:34.480
like who changed right yeah I what sticks out to me is Trump calling them one of his specific
00:32:39.260
attacks against them, among many, was low IQ. These guys are low IQ. These guys are
00:32:45.120
dumb. And think about it. We just played the clip. Tucker Carlson is in Madison Square
00:32:49.480
Garden in November 2024, rallying for Trump. Back then, was he low IQ? So when he supported
00:32:56.380
you all these years, all the way back in 2016, all the way as recently as 2024, same
00:33:01.480
thing for Alex Jones, who has been in your court for a decade. Were they low IQ then?
00:33:05.420
It seems to be your IQ, some type of IQ as intelligence, that's the standard.
00:33:11.180
That doesn't change.
00:33:12.000
But apparently to Trump, you're low IQ if you're against him in any given moment.
00:33:16.200
And if you're for him at that moment, it doesn't matter what you did in the past,
00:33:19.020
if you're for him, you're high IQ.
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That is such an arbitrary, subjective way to speak of people.
00:33:24.220
And just to even demonstrate, here's how people go about disagreements with maturity.
00:33:29.300
Grown men, and especially statesmen, they are going to have different opinions.
00:33:32.720
They're going to come across on different issues.
00:33:34.740
There's going to be things where they're together for a time.
00:33:36.560
Hey, we really agree when this is the big topic, but then it comes to a war.
00:33:39.900
It comes to something else, and we disagree.
00:33:42.220
You can do it with maturity.
00:33:43.800
You can do it without saying, hey, I think this person who I used to like is stupid.
00:33:47.180
I think they're dumb.
00:33:48.300
I think they're malevolent.
00:33:49.500
I think they're malicious.
00:33:50.700
You don't actually have to do this.
00:33:52.360
And a great example, for example, is Doug Wilson.
00:33:54.980
We have strong disagreements with Doug Wilson.
00:33:57.200
We'd even go so far as to say he's doing some damage and advocating that America, well,
00:34:02.320
hey, it's this Protestant Jewish project. There's things we strongly disagree with him on, and you
00:34:07.720
will not find us publicly or privately calling him dumb, calling him names, slandering him like that.
00:34:14.300
Now, you will actually find his son saying of Joel, it's a sin to be this dumb. So we've got
00:34:20.040
it from one side coming our direction, but we have severe disagreements with different men,
00:34:25.220
and yet we refuse to cast them out of the kingdom to say they're unsaved, to speak of them as dumb,
00:34:30.320
to insult their family to call them ugly that's how grown men disagree so grown men can disagree
00:34:35.660
and even trump could say hey i recognize there was a time when tucker carlson was in my court
00:34:39.620
i recognize when alex jones was in my court and i appreciate what they did for me then
00:34:43.680
however i disagree with them on the war and i think they should take a step back i'm the president
00:34:47.860
that's not what we're talking about here right you're not with me now on this latest thing
00:34:52.060
after 99 different endeavors you're an idiot you're how could i have ever trusted low iq
00:34:57.160
loser in all caps um bankrupt yeah like bankrupt mocking mocking the fact that alex jones i mean
00:35:05.100
he's been financially destroyed absolutely destroyed the settlement is in the billions
00:35:10.120
one of the largest settlements ever for not even anything kinetic that he did just for a story
00:35:15.540
he'll never be able to own anything ever again uh he may be able to stay on the air uh but he'll
00:35:21.240
have to be a part of a new company as an employee. He won't be able to be an owner of one of them
00:35:27.320
as it affects like his children and their inheritance, all those kinds of things.
00:35:31.920
Massive sacrifice has been made. And you can say, well, Alex did it to himself. I've seen a lot of
00:35:37.000
guys say he did it to himself with, you know, the remarks he made about the Sandy Hook. And yeah,
00:35:41.860
he was wrong about that. He apologized for that. He he's walked that back. But here's the deal.
00:35:46.700
A lot of times people just look at what's on the surface and they won't give credence to the very
00:35:51.900
You know substantive reality underneath the surface
00:35:56.140
People came after alex jones on the surface because of what he said about sandy hook
00:36:01.420
If it but if you think that he would have the same ire
00:36:05.920
Targeted against him had he not
00:36:08.900
Worked so hard to get trump into office
00:36:12.780
had he not been a mouthpiece of trump an advocate of trump a fighter for trump if it hadn't been for
00:36:18.880
alex's close association and partnership with donald trump um i i don't think that alex would
00:36:25.000
have gotten the same degree of hostility uh for the sandy hook situation you have to recognize
00:36:31.220
that part of the lawfare and the people behind it who were fueling it and funding it and supporting
00:36:36.620
it and all those kinds of things are people who hate donald trump um i get hate mail all the time
00:36:42.320
It's funny. Nobody actually, you know, the people who hate me don't actually watch our show.
00:36:46.440
They just they just hate me because they've seen one tweet taken out of context, you know, from six months ago or whatever it is.
00:36:53.040
And I'll get letters all the time. And every single one of them, it's not about me.
00:36:57.320
I'm just a proxy in their minds for the, you know, the people with Joel Webin derangement syndrome.
00:37:02.580
I'm just a proxy for Trump. And here we are for like the last, you know, several months.
00:37:07.400
we've been some of the harshest critics of Trump. We appreciate what God did through him.
00:37:13.240
We're praying for him. We're hoping that there's a change of heart. But at the same time,
00:37:18.280
we're calling balls and strikes and saying, look, this is not a just war. We should not have bombed
00:37:23.100
Iran. We should not have done this. We should not have done that. And so we're willing to criticize
00:37:27.400
him. We've been some of the strongest critics out there for the last several months. And I still get
00:37:33.280
hate mail and with the hate mail, it's not just Joel Webb and you said this, and this is why I
00:37:38.080
hate you. It's a, you said this. And then quickly it would be like one sentence, but it's a whole
00:37:43.080
wall of text, you know, it's a whole letter. Um, and it's like one sentence of something that I
00:37:47.800
said in a clip or some tweet that I sent, you know, several months back. And then the rest of
00:37:51.960
the letter is, and you, you probably support that, uh, that pedophile Trump, you know, and, and, um,
00:37:58.960
and you, you love Trump and you, I can't even repeat some of the things he'll say, but like
00:38:03.000
lots of curse words and crude, you know, perverse language of, you know, you do this with Trump and
00:38:08.240
you, and I'm sitting here, you know, reading it, you know, like just getting a chuckle out of it
00:38:13.360
thinking, dude, I, I've been calling Trump to the mat for several months now on multiple occasions
00:38:22.280
publicly. It's, it's funny because it's like this leftist, you know, hates me, but, but their,
00:38:27.320
their ire against me my point is so much of it is fueled by what they perceive as my support of
00:38:34.800
trump and it's the same with alex jones alex jones he messed up on sandy hook he's been apologizing
00:38:40.700
profusely for it and doing everything he can to to wrong that uh or to to right that wrong um ever
00:38:47.660
since for multiple years now um and yet none of the law fair uh has let up at all and when you
00:38:54.800
look beneath the surface of the different organizations behind it that are funding this
00:39:00.200
whole campaign against Alex Jones, it is in large part because of Alex Jones and his support over
00:39:07.180
the past decade for Donald Trump. You can literally say without hyperbole or exaggeration that Alex
00:39:14.280
Jones has been in a three-year process of having his entire life and everything he's built ripped
00:39:22.860
apart in large part because of his love and support for donald trump and then donald trump
00:39:28.420
puts out um a a tweet like this not just saying hey it'd be one thing if trump said listen you
00:39:36.120
guys have supported me i'm grateful for you but you've got to to stand back and stand by um and
00:39:42.760
and trust me let me cook i'm the president of the united states i'm privy to information that you
00:39:48.520
don't have i'm seeing some of the things and you've got to know that i love this country and
00:39:54.400
give me a moment let me cook give me a moment that would be one thing but he didn't just do that
00:39:59.720
instead what he did was he came out um insult after insult cruel you're losers you're low iq
00:40:07.920
he takes alex jones life being financially destroyed and ripped apart and adds it in the
00:40:13.180
tweet bankrupt alex jones a guy who literally on his behalf pretty much on that's my whole point
00:40:18.960
bankrupt why because he missed it with sandy hook yes on the surface that's true but underneath it
00:40:25.280
um i he would not be in a lawsuit for billions of dollars being sued he'd be sued yep he'd have
00:40:33.680
some penalties but he would have it'd be a setback but he would have survived and kept going but this
00:40:38.360
is one of the biggest lawsuits of like a clown, comical amount of money. And that is the depth,
00:40:48.900
the intensity of this lawsuit is in large part because of his support of Trump. And so Trump is
00:40:54.500
going to say, you are taking bullets, right? Trump was supposed to be the guy who took bullets for
00:40:58.800
us. And now he's turning and saying, you've been taking for three years bullets for me,
00:41:03.900
and i'm going to mock you in your bankruptcy um that it's and i just as a point of fact it's like
00:41:10.960
the comments were made in december right after the sandy hook massacre december of 2012 and then
00:41:16.880
further in 2023 he called it a government operation this this is basically the focus
00:41:21.180
of a lawsuit that was opened in austin texas in 2018 by the way so in trump's trump 1.0 his first
00:41:27.300
administration uh trump so comments in 2013 trump appears during the election uh the primary election
00:41:34.180
on alex jones show what would that be 2016 the clip that we put 2015 2015 trump no no thoughts
00:41:41.020
then what about in april 2018 when the lawsuit was filed did trump come out and condemn alex jones
00:41:45.720
then did he have this feeling of oh this is so terrible and heinous and you need to be bankrupted
00:41:50.380
for this no he didn't have it it's clearly political and and the most frustrating thing
00:41:54.720
personal this isn't derangement syndrome this isn't like going back to your point this isn't
00:41:59.180
us looking at trump and saying you are failing on every front you're failing in so many ways
00:42:03.900
you've turned your back and no matter what you do from here on out we hate you that's not what
00:42:08.600
this is this is us actually as formerly being trump's base on all of these different issues
00:42:13.400
domestic predominantly uh demographic change open borders um america first policy no foreign wars
00:42:20.200
We're literally looking at you and saying, you're not being consistent on these things.
00:42:24.620
We want you to focus on the things you ran on.
00:42:28.420
And that's where all of this backlash of, well, you're disloyal.
00:42:32.580
That's what it's coming from.
00:42:33.800
That's right.
00:42:34.180
Not derangement central.
00:42:34.700
And this is not just subjective.
00:42:36.140
It's not just, oh, this is our opinion.
00:42:37.700
This is Mark Rubio.
00:42:38.880
This is J.D. Vance.
00:42:40.340
There's been several people in close proximity from the White House who have come out and said, yeah, Israel dragged us into this war.
00:42:48.140
We're talking about the Wall Street Journal.
00:42:49.400
we'll talk we're talking about the in new york times we're talking like this is um this is just
00:42:54.420
reality everybody knows that this is reality that we overstepped um our jurisdiction we went in too
00:43:00.960
hot um into a situation that we should not have been involved in at least at that caliber uh we
00:43:07.380
were told all the way back in july of 2025 that you know they're two weeks away from nuclear and
00:43:13.160
then we sent our our bunker busters you know our bombs and all this kind of stuff and we were told
00:43:19.000
that that was winning, so much winning, you won't be able, you'll say, please, Mr. President,
00:43:24.340
I can't handle any more winning, you know, and then we're going to win some more. And we were
00:43:28.320
told that we won, that we completely decoupled and destroyed Iran's ability to attain any kind
00:43:38.580
of nuclear power. And then all of a sudden, less than a year later, we're doing it again. And then
00:43:44.400
you have high up White House, you know, appointees in Trump's administration, like Mark Rubio saying
00:43:51.640
on live air, you know, the Freudian slip. Yeah, Israel pulled us into this. We bombed Iran the
00:43:58.240
second time now in 2026, because we knew that if we didn't, then Israel would and they wouldn't
00:44:03.220
get the job done. And so then there'd be return fire on U.S. bases, our own military, our own
00:44:08.320
staffers, they would be caught up as collateral and casualties. And so they're saying it out
00:44:14.320
loud. And then we get the two-week ceasefire. And immediately, Israel starts bombing the living
00:44:20.620
hell out of Lebanon, which has 40% Christians, by the way, in their population. And Iran is saying,
00:44:28.420
well, wait a second. We agreed to a ceasefire for two weeks, but you're bombing Lebanon. And then
00:44:33.680
the White House comes out. Lebanon was never part of the deal. And then Iran comes out and shows
00:44:38.300
that Lebanon actually was mentioned. It actually was mentioned. And then you have Trump, the latest
00:44:44.040
news going and talking to Netanyahu. Like, could you, could you please stop destroying any chance
00:44:49.980
of peace we possibly have to which, you know, the, the, the reports are that Netanyahu responded by
00:44:55.720
saying, yeah, we'll bomb them low key. We'll, so we'll, we'll low key kill Christians in Lebanon
00:45:00.840
from now on, you know, wink, wink. And so here's the deal. The deal is Tucker Carlson doesn't hate
00:45:08.300
Donald Trump. Alex Jones doesn't hate Donald Trump. Candace Owens doesn't hate Donald Trump.
00:45:15.220
They hate this war. And by the White House's own admission, it was a mistake. Trump got bad
00:45:23.300
counsel. That's the fact. That is the fact. Trump got bad counsel from worm tongue in his ear,
00:45:30.640
all the miga, you know, make Israel great again counselors that wormed their way into MAGA,
00:45:36.180
into trump's good graces he listened to them instead of his original loyal supporters made
00:45:42.300
a mistake in geopolitics with the war in iran and now say hey you know what we're winning again we
00:45:47.760
got the ceasefire the strait of hormuz is going to be oh it's open again stonks go up right and
00:45:53.420
you see the spy and the nasdaq and the dow going through the roof yesterday meanwhile you can read
00:45:59.140
the reports how many ships have gone through oh 11 uh how many of them are oil tankers none
00:46:05.920
cargo ships. Okay. Well, what's it going to be? Maybe, you know, it just takes a while to get
00:46:09.780
it started. It's the first day, 15 ships a day. All right. 15 ships were winning. What was it
00:46:14.520
previously before Trump bombed Iran? Oh, 130. Oh, and you might have to pay $2 million tolls
00:46:21.400
for every ship. We won. Wait, you're saying we got the same deal that we already had before we
00:46:26.640
did anything, except now we lost tax dollars, American lives with our service members. And we
00:46:32.680
have to pay money and take less ships through the and that's winning with winning like this who
00:46:37.600
needs losing you know what i mean and so here's the point trump could simply say you know what i
00:46:42.500
got bad counsel you know what he should be doing he should have come out and fired everyone who
00:46:47.720
gave him counsel to bomb iran and say you know what i miss this one and here's here's the big
00:46:53.480
deal all the guys that trump is blasting who were his greatest advocates for a decade
00:46:59.660
right when mark levin and ben shapiro and all these guys were saying that trump is um a dictator
00:47:06.180
and trump is neo-fascist neo-fascist nazi you know all that like the guys who were actually
00:47:11.320
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00:47:16.820
criticize it harshly and they were right and the white house itself has come out and said
00:47:22.540
yeah we kind of we got bad counsel we got bad intel from israel we got drug into the war
00:47:28.580
we overstepped the deal that we have now maybe peace is coming but it'll be peace with a price
00:47:34.820
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you're not saying i'm a loser you're not saying i'm low iq you're not saying i'm bankrupt you're
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not saying i'm an idiot you're saying this decision all this good but this decision was bad
00:47:58.200
please mr president listen to reason and stop and trump could have come out and said i see that i
00:48:04.060
see that you're not critiquing me as a person you're critiquing this decision and i realize i
00:48:09.320
got bad counsel and we're pivoting and these guys who gave me the bad counsel you guys are fired
00:48:14.760
he could have done that right instead he's like you guys are idiots doubles down and you know what
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Great.
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Well, Trump is not that guy.
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We thought for a moment that he would be the great man.
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He would restore the fall that America's been in,
00:51:39.540
the decline of the American regime,
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but he was the precursor.
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And unlike him, we can say Trump did a lot of good.
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He really did.
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We supported his election in 2024.
00:51:48.360
There was a lot he did good, especially in his first term, but he's not that guy.
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And one of his besetting sins is his ego, is his pride.
00:51:55.960
Why do Mark Levin, why do Lindsey Graham, why do Randy Fine, why do Laura Loomer, why
00:51:59.820
do they have such access to him?
00:52:01.860
Because they flatter him.
00:52:03.100
I think of the story we've actually used a lot as we talk about it is Theoden in Lord
00:52:06.980
of the Rings.
00:52:07.620
He's a king and he's great, but he comes under bad counsel through Wormtongue and his mind
00:52:11.800
is poisoned, and he's poisoned by his advisors, by his side that turn him even against his own
00:52:18.140
son, even against those that support him. And so Trump's been lied to, the advisors beside him have
00:52:23.940
given him terrible advice, and so we look forward to who's going to come next, who's going to pick
00:52:28.560
up the mantle, and we pray that that same character flaw, the pride, the ego, the willingness to bring
00:52:34.520
the people in that say, how great are you, O King, that he has the wisdom and the character and the
00:52:39.560
virtue to say, I'm not going to listen to you. I'm not going to be flattered. I'm going to be
00:52:43.620
humble if I make a mistake. That's the man who will actually restore our American empire.
00:52:48.540
Correct. The way that you could say it is this. Trump had the courage, but he didn't have the
00:52:51.800
moral compass. He had the courage, but not the compass, not the conviction, right? Courage,
00:52:56.620
but not conviction. At the end of the day, Trump's convictions are 1990s liberal Democrat from New
00:53:03.580
York convictions. They are, they're the convictions of a guy that you would assume you would expect
00:53:09.320
who would pose with Phil Helmuth or Hugh Hefner, you know, with a playboy or, you know, the guy
00:53:17.100
who would be on, you know, his third marriage or the guy like, those are the convictions.
00:53:21.980
He bragged about Jeffrey Epstein liking young girls. Now in that category, young would have
00:53:25.640
been like 18 and older, but like, that was kind of funny. Like I got this friend, he really likes
00:53:29.280
sleeping with young girls. Right. Yeah. That's gross. Yeah. That's, that's not good. Not good.
00:53:33.980
So the point is, and by the way, I'll say this, you can tell that you do not have the
00:53:42.080
popular sentiment behind you with this war when your wife is thinking, you know what,
00:53:46.460
we should change the subject, let's talk about Epstein.
00:53:49.660
When your wife is saying, Epstein might be actually a better look for us than continuing
00:53:54.240
to talk about Iran, right?
00:53:56.040
That was not a winner, but it's better than this.
00:53:57.980
That's how you know you're not winning.
00:53:59.200
So the point is this, Trump, we got to give credit where credit is due.
00:54:03.120
he had courage and he's the first major politician in my lifetime that actually had grit that had
00:54:10.700
courage and god used him and he did a lot of good and i'm grateful for that and i here's the deal
00:54:16.440
this is what i'm trying to display here at the end um we can't criticize trump for turning on
00:54:21.500
a dime and saying these guys who always loved me and i always claimed to love them well now it
00:54:25.760
turns out that these guys have never done anything well they're low iq they've always been stupid
00:54:29.780
exactly so let's let's not fight fire with fire let's not do the same thing so i don't want to
00:54:35.080
turn and say now that trump is doing a few things that i don't like although they're big things um
00:54:39.940
trump has has always been terrible and he's he's never this and he's no we can we can actually
00:54:46.440
chew gum and walk at the same time we can say god used donald j trump and he used him in multiple
00:54:52.640
ways. He's the best president so far of my lifetime. Um, he had courage in spades, but he
00:55:00.060
doesn't have the strong Christian conviction. And, um, and we're praying that, that God would raise
00:55:06.400
up a man after his own heart who has both, both courage and conviction. There have been guys with
00:55:11.540
conviction, Mike Pence. Like I'll, I'll be honest, the dude won't even, you know, wouldn't even host
00:55:17.240
a a meeting with um a woman um in isolation alone i actually think that's good yeah i like that
00:55:23.960
mike pence had conviction you know what he didn't have courage trump has courage but it doesn't
00:55:31.880
really seem like he has conviction right he's against abortion and then abortion is not really
00:55:35.640
that big deal of a deal you know he's i'm gonna release the epstein but oh epstein you're still
00:55:40.300
talking about that you're still talking about that you know or oh um uh mass deportations and
00:55:47.360
like uh no you're not going to get mass deportation telling a republican congressman to stop talking
00:55:52.760
about it leading up to the midterm talking about yeah stop mentioning it's not happening so there
00:55:56.640
have been guys you know good old boys in the gop who are against abortion and gay marriage like
00:56:02.680
they have conviction but zero spine zero courage and then finally on the backdrop in that context
00:56:10.140
in the backdrop of a political landscape with zero men of courage. A guy with courage looks
00:56:16.740
really good. And Trump really looked good. And he really did a lot of good, objectively. And I
00:56:22.540
praise God for it. Mr. President, I'm grateful for the good that you have done. But you don't need
00:56:29.460
just conviction without courage or just courage without conviction. You've got to have both
00:56:33.460
conviction and a compass, courage and a compass, courage and conviction. And I don't know, I'm
00:56:39.400
just going to be honest, if I had to bet right now, the David-type figure, I don't think he comes
00:56:45.360
in 2028. I think it's probably a little bit too soon. I think we're probably going to have to
00:56:50.420
experience a little bit more pain before the people are ready, before America is ready to say,
00:56:57.300
no, we've experienced enough of God's rod of discipline because of our own choices,
00:57:02.580
our own rebellion. We're ready to repent now, and God gives us a better king as an act of mercy,
00:57:09.400
Um, so I don't know if he's coming in 2028. It may be later 2020, uh, 2032 for some reason for a while
00:57:16.340
now has felt that's just, I don't know that I felt strongly about 2032. Uh, but the point is we need
00:57:22.040
a guy. We had guys with conviction, but zero courage. We finally got a guy with courage, but
00:57:26.780
not a lot of conviction. We need the guy who has both and, uh, and for him to come, we as a nation
00:57:33.120
need to be prepared. Uh, we need to repent and we're probably sadly, because we are a stiff
00:57:39.320
necked and rebellious people. We have apostatized from the Lord Jesus Christ. We're probably going
00:57:44.240
to have to experience a little bit more of God's judgment first before we actually turn the tide
00:57:49.200
and actually deserve the kind of president, the kind of leader that we've been talking about on
00:57:54.560
this show. Right now, I don't think we get that leader because I think we probably get the leader
00:57:58.960
we deserve. And the truth is we deserve another lousy leader because we have been a lousy people.
00:58:04.760
We have not loved the Lord our God with all our heart, with all our soul, with all our mind.
00:58:09.200
We have not humbled ourselves and called out to God and prayed unto Him that He might heal our
00:58:14.880
land. We have not done these things. We've had this thin Christian veneer, Christ is King,
00:58:20.420
which is true. We say it all the time. We mean it. A lot of guys say it, and they don't mean it.
00:58:26.180
We're shifting back to right wing, but it's America first, heavy, Christ is King light.
00:58:36.140
And I don't think that that movement gets you a David.
00:58:40.520
Because David is not just has a heart for his people, but he's a man after God's own heart.
00:58:46.980
If we don't have the people, then I don't know if we're going to get the man.
00:58:51.040
And so my prayer is that God would continue to chastise us, although it hurts,
00:58:56.220
that it would drive us as a nation, as a people to repentance,
00:58:59.540
and that he would provide a leader for us in his due time
00:59:03.960
who has both courage and conviction
00:59:06.500
that it would be a David-type guy and not a Saul-type guy.
00:59:11.580
I pray that God would give courage to guys like Alex Jones,
00:59:15.320
guys like Tucker Carlson.
00:59:18.380
And that said, again, I just want to say here,
00:59:20.540
I'm grateful for Tucker, I'm grateful for Alex.
00:59:22.800
That doesn't mean we agree with everything.
00:59:24.740
I think that Tucker has been on point with 9 out of 10
00:59:29.400
of the things that he's been saying when it comes to the war, when it comes to things about China
00:59:33.720
even. People don't want to, oh, you're a traitor to America. No, he's a realist. He's a realist.
00:59:39.040
The things he's saying, look at history and the way that things historically shake out. Tucker is
00:59:44.620
on it. That said, one example where I'd like to see Tucker beef up his rhetoric and grow. I think
00:59:52.780
that you can be hard on Israel because it's a massive problem. It is a mass Zionism. A Zionist
00:59:59.160
occupied American government is what we currently have, and it is a millstone around our neck. It's
01:00:06.440
dragging us to the bottom of the sea, and Tucker has been nailing it. That said, in order to make
01:00:12.220
that point, you don't have to be soft on Islam. You don't. So I'm saying these things at the end.
01:00:18.760
The only reason I'm saying them is I like Tucker.
01:00:21.420
I'm grateful for Tucker.
01:00:23.120
I really like Alex.
01:00:24.880
Grateful for Alex.
01:00:25.880
The only reason I'm saying these things at the end
01:00:27.400
is not to disparage Tucker.
01:00:29.280
It's not to disparage Alex.
01:00:30.780
But there's just right now
01:00:31.980
in the larger social media landscape,
01:00:35.380
in the news, in the public square,
01:00:37.460
you've just got glazing.
01:00:39.720
Just shameless, unbridled.
01:00:43.560
It's the new MAGA, Mark Levin,
01:00:46.240
glaze laura loomer glazing of trump and he can do no wrong and then you've got glazing of candace
01:00:53.100
and tucker and they can do no and we want to sit here and say look on this issue with the war in
01:00:59.480
iran and how things are currently shaking out um i'm on team tucker i'm not on team trump and so
01:01:08.200
i'm not just i don't want to do the third way middleman i'm above it all no i'm not above it
01:01:12.860
all. We have a country currently hanging the balance. My children are going to grow up in
01:01:19.280
this country. I'm not going to sit here and be a pietist and be above it all. No, I'm picking a
01:01:24.200
side. I'm picking a team. America first. That's my team. I pick America first over MAGA, right? No,
01:01:30.860
no qualifiers. That's it. That said with America first, I'm not going to do with America first
01:01:37.760
what all the new MAGA candidates like Laura Loomer are doing with MAGA and Trump, glazing him no
01:01:43.860
matter what, speaking in his ear, using flattery. Oh, you're so great. You've never done anything
01:01:49.160
wrong. You could do no wrong. I'm not going to do that over here. So I have a team. I'm not sitting
01:01:54.160
there doing the splits in the middle above it all. America first. I'm with Tucker Carlson over
01:01:59.880
Donald Trump, period. I am. That said, Tucker, because that's the team I picked, that's the team
01:02:07.520
that I'm going, as a friend, friend-enemy distinction, I'm not going to do it as I would
01:02:11.500
when I critique the left, I critique them as enemies, because they are. They are enemies of
01:02:17.780
America, enemies of Christ, enemies of my wife and children and future posterity. I'm not going to
01:02:23.000
level that kind of rhetoric that I would level against the left, against Tucker Carlson, because
01:02:28.340
he's a friend. We're on the same team. That said, I'm also not going to be, as Laura Loomer is to
01:02:34.200
trump i'm not going to be to an alex jones or tucker carlson i'm going to say tucker you're
01:02:39.100
nailing it so so glad to see this also islam um is not our friend they're not our friend
01:02:47.280
they worship a false god and and islam not just religiously is it a false religion that damns
01:02:53.320
people to hell but but also philosophically in terms of not just religion but civilization
01:02:58.880
it is incompatible with the west islam is is it's not just false doctrine and wrong it is
01:03:05.760
holy i'm not h-o-l-y but w-h-o-l-l-y it is holy entirely eastern islam um islam has no place in
01:03:18.480
america it cannot coexist in america it can't so all that being said there are things balls and
01:03:26.020
strikes everywhere you look um but if you want to follow a group that we too have our faults we have
01:03:33.080
our flaws we're not perfect we're learning as god sanctifies us as we grow in spiritual maturity
01:03:39.180
but if you want to follow a group that actually will admit when we're wrong we've done that
01:03:43.960
by the grace of god all glory goes to god but i have publicly admitted on multiple occasions when
01:03:49.700
i got it wrong i've never heard trump say that he got something wrong and to be fair uh most
01:03:55.740
public figures like 99 of them i've never heard them admit when they got something wrong but if
01:04:01.520
you want to follow a group that's willing to not just glaze one team over the other but at the same
01:04:06.520
time isn't isn't laissez-faire you know above it all and we have no team you know like no we we have
01:04:13.560
a team america first christ is king we're working with them we have the friend enemy distinction
01:04:19.980
but even on our team we're willing to call balls and strikes and when we get it wrong
01:04:25.320
we'll publicly admit it on air i like paul says he's like i must be out of my mind to speak like
01:04:32.340
this but uh humor a little fool's talk for a moment um i don't i don't know any any group any
01:04:38.520
anybody any christian group that is doing a podcast in the public square speaking to politics
01:04:43.680
and culture that fits that bill. Willing to pick a team unapologetically, but also not glazing them
01:04:52.380
relentlessly, shamelessly, insufferably, and also willing to admit when they themselves get things
01:04:58.220
wrong. There's just not a lot of guys in the space currently doing that who are America first,
01:05:04.440
America only, and yet at the same time, Christ is king, but not just as a sarcastic slur.
01:05:09.880
actually mean it. I'm not trying to disparage you, but I am not a single man
01:05:18.140
who is kind of, you know, privately light on morality, but uses Christ as King in America
01:05:26.940
first and big in my rhetoric. I'm not. I'm almost 40 years old. I am the husband of but one wife.
01:05:35.900
I have five children. I'm a father on the weekends. You'll find me playing in the backyard on the
01:05:42.960
jungle gym with my kids. Um, I'm a, a, a local pastor. I actually have real people, flesh and
01:05:49.900
blood, brick and mortar, not just online, but I have, um, I have a few hundred people in my life,
01:05:56.760
in my local church. I'm doing marriage counseling. Um, I'm seeking to love the people of God
01:06:03.900
tangibly in front of me not just social media um we we're not uh the pagan right we're not
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men with wives and children, willing to pick a side and not be above it all, but criticize as a
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