There is a sinister and growing affection, not just defense, but borderline worship for the nation state of Israel on the right-wing political aisle in America. It is an idolatrous affection, borderline worship, and it must be revealed, exposed, and rebuked.
00:03:31.080this is a massively important conversation over the weekend tucker carlson he had not just one
00:03:44.120but two different interviews we're going to start with his interview with mike huckabee
00:03:47.780there were things that were said by senator mike huckabee that are absolutely disgusting appalling
00:03:53.900the idea that israel not only has a right to exist right that could be spoken about i think
00:04:00.960that no country, just for the record, I'm not picking on Israel in this regard, I don't think0.95
00:04:05.160that any country has an inherent right to exist. Every country that does exist, exists because it
00:04:11.020conquered some land at some point, and then not only does it have to conquer, it then has to be
00:04:16.720able to keep and maintain, and the moment that it can't, and some other nation conquers it, well,
00:04:21.820then it ceases to exist, right? That's the way that nations work. They rise and fall. So no nation,
00:04:27.920no country, not just Israel, but any country for that matter, has somehow a divine or inherent
00:04:33.640right to exist. And the problem with that statement, as it pertains to the nation of Israel,
00:04:40.760is that everything that's baked into the statement assumes that Israel doesn't just have a right to
00:04:46.460exist, but has a right to our taxes, our military, our support in order to maintain its existence.
00:04:52.720And so that's already problematic enough in and of itself.
00:04:57.400But in addition to that sentiment, which has become quite common, Mike Huckabee went much
00:05:03.100further and not just saying that Israel, as we know it today, its current borders, that
00:05:08.840that should be maintained, that that has some kind of inherent right to exist, but that
00:05:13.300Israel should actually be a lot larger, that Israel really has some kind of divine inherent
00:05:19.280right to a sizable portion of the Middle East that would include other countries being replaced,0.87
00:05:27.120conquered, decimated. It was quite the conversation. Well, if you remember, it's about six months ago,
00:05:33.020Tucker Carlson had on Ted Cruz. And Ted Cruz, the United States senator from Texas,
00:05:38.140all too common Texas L, unfortunately. Ted Cruz has explicitly billed himself as,
00:05:42.540I am a fighter for Israel. And so six months ago, he sat down with Ted Cruz, and it was about two
00:05:46.520hours. Why do American Christians, American evangelicals have to support Israel? And Tucker's
00:05:52.660trying to get to the root of the question, what biblical basis do they have? What claim to the
00:05:56.240land do they have? And so he's sitting down, now sitting down with Mike Huckabee, the ambassador
00:06:00.320to Israel. He's not just sitting down with your evangelical pastor who was raised on dispensationalism
00:06:06.220and doesn't know his left hand from his right. He's sitting down with United States senators,
00:06:10.060United States ambassadors, and asking them, just give me a basic answer. What does Israel offer
00:06:15.340to us as far as diplomatic and economic and military advantages in the region? Oh, you can't
00:06:21.280really articulate it. Oh, why do Christians from the Bible have to support the state of Israel?0.91
00:06:25.940And both of these men, men that are experienced, I mean, Mike Huckabee was a pastor, men that are
00:06:30.740evangelicals through and through, men that are intimately involved with everything that goes on
00:06:35.080geopolitically with Israel, none of them could give a compelling answer. The takeaway from both
00:06:39.280of those interviews was just by asking questions, just by digging in, just by even quoting the
00:06:44.200scripture. I mean, Tucker's no pastor. He does a good job, but he's just basically reading the
00:06:48.140narrative from Genesis, both of them stumped, both of them tripping over themselves, both of them
00:06:52.660saying things. I mean, Mike Huckabee, we'll go to this clip in a minute, his statement that Israel
00:06:56.820could take it if they wanted to, it garnered the condemnation of a number of our allies in the
00:07:02.860region. You can see this on screen. This is a joint statement from the United Arab Emirates,
00:07:06.640the Republic of Indonesia, Republic of Pakistan, Bahrain, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, literally all
00:07:11.960coming out and saying, we're extremely concerned that a U.S. ambassador to Israel is saying,
00:07:17.100Israel, this country that's not America, could take these nations over, our nations over,
00:07:21.700our country, our land, if we want to. Tucker is embarrassing these guys on the global stage.
00:07:28.040Yeah, and that's where the theological arguments I think Cruz made and Huckabee made as well in
00:07:32.140the interview, they're so tenuous. And you can see it when they start talking about it. It seems so
00:07:37.420projected, you know, you've received the talking points or like the grade school, elementary
00:07:42.960version of those who bless Israel will be blessed. And yeah, and I think it comes out
00:07:49.660as Tucker continues to push him and says, well, where does that write in? Have you really thought
00:07:54.700through this? Israel, why wouldn't they be able to have Jordan? Why wouldn't they be able to have
00:07:59.200Saudi Arabia, or at least parts of it? And he bluffs, you know, he gaffs, I should say, because
00:08:06.000he says, I guess, I suppose they could. If I'm being consistent with the boundaries the Bible
00:08:11.420lays out. Let's go to the first thing that they opened the interview with. And this was a
00:08:14.720discussion of Mike Huckabee's meeting with a spy named Jonathan Pollard. Jonathan Pollard,
00:08:19.08030, 40 years ago, stole United States war secrets, sold them to Russia, and served over 30 years in
00:08:25.600prison for it. Now, he himself is Jewish. He lives now in Israel. And he's gone on a tour since being0.88
00:08:31.140released, basically saying, I would do it again. I'm unapologetic. I want to read from an interview
00:08:35.820that Tucker cited. He didn't directly quote it, but he cited, and it illustrates what we've been
00:08:40.660saying for six to eight months about this problem. This is Jonathan Pollard in his words, in an
00:08:45.360interview with Israel Hayom, talking about, would you do this again? And specifically the accusation,
00:08:53.000do Jews in the United States have dual loyalties? Jonathan Pollard said this, if you don't like the
00:08:57.460accusation of double loyalty, again, this is Jews in America, if you don't like the accusation of
00:09:01.580double loyalty, then go the blank home. It's as simple as that. If you live in a country where0.78
00:09:06.540you are constantly under that charge, then you don't belong there. You go home, you come home.
00:09:10.640If you live outside of Israel, then, and it transitions here, then you have a responsibility.0.67
00:09:17.280You have a dual loyalty. He says this, American Jewry has a massive problem. American Jews
00:09:23.140consider themselves more American than they do Jews. That is the crux of this issue with Israel.0.74
00:09:29.520It is the country in the Middle East, yes, but it's also about the disproportionate power and the disproportionate loyalty here in the United States that they offer and render to service of this country.
00:09:40.580And Tucker, it's funny because he's very against speaking in groups, speaking categorically.
00:09:45.560You can see him asking all these questions, well, we have these people here that have this allegiance.
00:09:49.260We have these people here with these loyalty.0.65
00:09:50.800Here's them in their own words saying American Jews, the problem with them is that they're more loyal to America than to Israel.
00:09:57.100and asking the question, what do we do about that?
00:12:05.240What about immigration that's swelling?1.00
00:12:06.760Their borders are open and they're getting replaced by immigrants from these third world countries.1.00
00:12:12.400And I think that actually is kind of the heart of it.1.00
00:12:14.580You can throw the label of anti-Semite, you can throw the label of a Jew hater, whatever the case is, but Tucker makes it really plain and simple. It's the fact that we want our country. We want people to be patriotic and on an international stage for our geopolitics to align with the interests of our country because we're American.
00:12:33.720And to your point, and as we talk about dual loyalty, I think that's what becomes clear, is that those who are aligned with Israel and Israel's interests, they actually don't think that way.
00:12:43.640Right, right. One of the things I'm so sick of, I'm just going to say it, is it's not even truly a Mott and Bailey, right? Because the Mott and Bailey fallacy is the idea that you have something that's very reasonable, very rational, very defensible. And then, you know, that's kind of like the tower, the Mott, you know, and then you can go out into the Bailey. This is, you know, out into the fields and extend, you know, push forward your arguments, but it's less defensible, right? So it's a greater reach, you know, it's more transgressive, more aggressive, but it's less defensible.
00:13:11.640And so whenever somebody attacks you for going out into the Bailey, then you retreat to the Mott, you know, and as soon as you're defended in the Mott and they start to back off because they're like, oh, you know, now we look like the bad guys attacking this very defensible position.
00:13:23.080Then you push back out into the Bailey, right?
00:13:27.220But what we see in the case of Israel, Mike Huckabee did this on multiple occasions throughout the interview, is it's not even the Mott and the Bailey.
00:13:39.120anytime that you start to press and tucker did at certain points he's like okay can you can you
00:13:44.460prove to me can you show me the evidence of some kind of genetic claim to this land i want i want
00:13:50.600to understand right because i mean we're not talking about um you know ashkenazi jews being
00:13:56.140here for the last 2 000 years we're talking about them being here since 1948 this is a fairly recent
00:14:01.940development somebody else was there right for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years
00:14:06.080until the West, Christian nations, which I don't know what we were thinking, but Christian nations1.00
00:14:10.240were like, you know what, we should displace an entire people and put Jews back into this location0.99
00:14:17.540and we should put Jews into a sea of Muslims and put ourselves and our children and our children's1.00
00:14:23.860children forever and ever and ever on the hook financially to supporting them because they're1.00
00:14:29.440going to require our defense constantly in order to be able to maintain this space. And so
00:14:35.620So my point is that, you know, the Jews may have been there initially a very long time ago, but they have been absent from this place for centuries and centuries until relatively recently in 1948.
00:14:49.280And so Tucker is kind of pushing on this point and saying, what is the genetic claim?
00:15:01.040And it's at that point, whenever that line of reasoning, which is not something Tucker came up with, that's what guys like Mike Huckabee and guys like Netanyahu would assert.
00:15:10.900They would say, well, we have a genetic claim.
00:15:12.540We were here 2,000 years ago, and yeah, we took a 19 and a half century hiatus, but it's still ours.
00:15:21.540Took the detour off the highway, came back around.0.57
00:15:23.280But we called dibs 2,000 years ago, and so it's ours.0.71
00:15:26.280And international Jewry, for the record, the Balfour Declaration, the United States recognizing Israel early, it was Jews ingratiated into Western countries that lobbied and lobbied and lobbied without themselves moving that made it possible that the UN and Britain would ultimately rescind their control of the territory, giving it to the Jewish state.
00:15:43.680So even back then, your 1900s, Jews actively working in all the different capacities they had, friends with the president, friends with the prime minister, working internationally to achieve this.
00:15:54.280Right. Yep. And guys like Winston Churchill magically being out of debt. Who paid the debt? Who helped him out? So there's that claim. And it's guys like Mike Huckabee and guys like Netanyahu, guys who are Jewish or Jewish adjacent, who are pushing that line of reasoning, that argument for rights to Israel, saying the genetic claim.
00:16:16.960But the moment that that starts to be pushed back on, like we saw in the interview with Tucker Carlson, then they go from the Mott to the Mott, right?
00:16:23.100And in this case, the other Mott is the religious claim, right?
00:16:25.920So it's, well, actually, it's, you know, it's because we're Jews, religiously.0.91
00:16:30.440Oh, I'm not talking about ethnic Jewishness.
00:16:33.260I'm talking about the religious Jewishness.
00:20:17.480And the irony to me is that from what Tucker was saying and looking into it a little bit,
00:20:23.400The support or the lack thereof in this case for the U.S. in its involvement in a war in Iran is ironically, like shockingly comparable, like almost to the T, with the U.S.'s supports once upon a time with joining into World War II.
00:20:41.540right but then something happened namely pearl harbor and then all of a sudden we decided yes
00:20:47.860we're going to get involved and over the course of the west christian nations you had millions of
00:20:53.540young men die and and morally right psychologically and religiously in in large respect we never
00:21:00.320recovered from that we like we never recover and not just us we america but all these western
00:21:06.180nations european nations in america christian nations western nations never really recovered
00:21:10.840from the catastrophic losses of two world wars.
00:21:15.560People lost a sense of optimism and hopefulness for the future
00:21:19.900and all those kinds of things, and we never really recovered.
00:21:23.200But initially, if you go back and look,
00:21:25.720Americans were just as gung-ho about jumping into World War II
00:21:31.860as they are jumping into a war with Iran.0.56
00:21:34.440That is to say, not gung-ho at all, until something significant happened.
00:21:39.480And I'm not a prophet nor a son of a prophet.
00:21:42.180And in this case, I really, really want to be wrong.0.95
00:21:44.400But it does make me wonder, is there going to be some kind of Muslim event, kind of like a 9-11 or something like that, that's going to happen in the next maybe year to two years, that's going to change Americans' minds about why we need to go in there and fight Iran, just like there was an event, namely Pearl Harbor, that changed our minds about joining into World War II.0.84
00:22:09.480um that's that's one of those questions that can keep you up at night well said all right let's go
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00:23:39.120All right, we're going to shift the conversation now to the interview that took place between
00:23:43.080Tucker Carlson and Douglas Wilson. We have two clips that we want to show. The first clip that
00:23:47.540you'll see is Tucker Carlson talking about the way, it's the unspoken rules of the game. It's
00:23:54.180the way this whole thing works. And a lot of you are not aware of this, but it is very much the way
00:23:59.420that it works? How is it that certain Jewish people, or in this case, Yoram Hazoni is who
00:24:06.440we're going to reference. He lives in Israel, is an Israeli citizen. How is it that he's also
00:24:14.900on the right? He is a nationalist. But how is it that he has such outsized influence when it comes
00:24:20.360to the right wing of politics here in America? And so the first clip that we're going to see
00:24:24.680is Tucker talking about the way that this works. And everybody who's in a position of influence and
00:24:31.480works behind the scenes all know about this, but very few people are willing to talk about it. And
00:24:36.040we're going to talk about it today. The second clip, because I just want to show them back to
00:24:39.480back and then we can have our conversation, is from Douglas Wilson and kind of pushing back on
00:24:45.380Tucker and saying, well, Tucker, because Tucker says, what's the significance of Israel? Are there
00:24:49.560trade routes through it? Is there just a ton of oil? Are they helping us financially? Are they
00:24:54.340helping us in this way or that? Like, why are we bending over backwards for this country more than
00:24:59.420any other country in the world? Why are they our greatest ally? Why do we give them money? Why do
00:25:04.620we send our sons to fight their wars? And the answer, and I think this is the correct answer,0.90
00:25:10.360I think it's wrong, but I should say it's the genuine. I think this is what Douglas Wilson and
00:25:15.080many other guys on the right actually believe. He does give a truthful answer in terms of what
00:25:21.680he's convinced of. I'm convinced he's wrong, but he does give a truthful answer. And so we're going
00:25:26.880to see that clip because it's telling and there's a lot that we'll be able to discuss on the backside.
00:25:31.960So the first clip again is going to be Tucker in regards to the way the game is played behind the
00:25:37.980scenes. How is it that Jews in America and even Jews in Israel have such outsized influence that's
00:25:44.440growing in America on the right side of the aisle politically? And then also, what is the reason?
00:25:51.940Because Tucker asked a fantastic question. Why is it that we are so supportive of Israel? What do we
00:25:57.160gain by it? And we'll see Pastor Douglas Wilson's answer. Here we go. And so this is not my chief
00:26:03.700concern. My chief concern is my country. But if you cared about Israel, man, they're in a bad spot
00:26:07.520right now. But no one can admit it. They all have to lie about everything. And the people who lie
00:26:12.540the most, can I say, are the evangelical preachers who go over there on an all-expense-paid vacation
00:26:19.040with a foreign government and then come back and tell me that I'm an Islamist because I don't
00:26:24.540think that we should kill children. And then you ask them, did you do a lot of evangelizing in
00:26:28.660Israel? Because like your whole job is to tell people about Jesus. Did you do that a lot in
00:26:31.980Tel Aviv? Shut up, anti-Semite. What? I thought we were on team Jesus here, which I am, by the way.1.00
00:26:37.780And I think evangelists should evangelize. So like, I'm just saying, without getting into it,
00:27:35.280...has to demonstrate an affection for Israel.
00:27:40.900well there it is um and and this is consistent on doug's part uh to give him credit so um for
00:27:49.540those of you who are not familiar you know some of our friends uh the ogden boys they're a part
00:27:54.100of a church in ogden utah and uh and do some podcasts and media and things like that they've
00:27:59.120done a lot of great work christian men uh pastors of a church there uh they when some of the feud
00:28:05.540began to unfold between Moscow and Apologia, another organization called the Ezra Institute
00:28:13.420against ourselves here with NXR, Right Response Ministries here in Georgetown, the church that
00:28:19.260we're a part of, as well as the guys in Ogden. And there was this fracturing and a clear divergence
00:28:26.860of paths, one being very pro-Israel and then our side of the aisle, not so much. There was an
00:28:33.540attempt to reconcile there was an attempt to try to get some sort of resolution to make peace to
00:28:39.480hold this muscular more engaged politically culturally engaged subset of the reformed
00:28:50.760protestant movement trying to hold it together and so what happened is that the boys from Ogden
00:28:55.760just within days of Christmas you know took it out of their schedules to take a seven-hour trip
00:29:02.440just one way. So, you know, quite the drive to go and visit Douglas Wilson and some of his leaders
00:29:09.100that would include, in this case, his son, Nate Wilson. This would also include Jared Longshore
00:29:13.340and Joe Rigney. And, you know, he was going and meeting with these individuals, the guys from
00:29:19.240Ogden, and having a conversation, how can we seek peace? We don't see eye to eye on the Israel issue.
00:29:25.700And one of the things that was explicitly said in that meeting is that Christians, politically conservative Christians on the right, who are trying to save the country and trying to ultimately establish a Christian nation, Christian nationalism, if you will, that that task cannot succeed without the Jews.0.88
00:29:50.320that we can't there was no winning scenario without the Jews um essentially um it was it0.83
00:29:58.060was basically like think of Saruman you know it's like you can't you can't beat Sauron you can't win0.98
00:30:02.880um the only thing you can do is join him and and that was basically the answer given and I again
00:30:09.080like I said I appreciate the consistency this is the same answer now that's given by Pastor Douglas
00:30:13.880Wilson to Tucker Carlson and uh the clip that we've just watched essentially what Doug Wilson
00:30:19.320is saying is that, yeah, I know that in economic terms and geopolitical terms and pretty much in
00:30:26.480religious terms and every kind of term you can think of, there is absolutely no benefit. It is
00:30:32.040not a two-way street. It's a one-way relationship that America has with Israel, that Christians have1.00
00:30:37.440with Jews. We do not benefit at all. However, we still have to have some kind of affection for0.93
00:30:44.020Israel, because if you're going to be a pastoral figure on the right in America or a political
00:30:49.740figure on the right in America, if you want any kind of leadership or influence on the
00:30:54.720right wing, political, cultural right wing in America at all, then you have to demonstrate,
00:31:00.920you have to signal some sort of affection, not just defense, right?
00:31:06.740Or not just avoid criticism or avoid anti-Semitism, but you actually have to signal on somewhat
00:31:13.560of a regular and clear basis, affection, positive affection for Israel, because on the right
00:31:21.360political aisle here in America, there's a bunch of Zionist Christians, dispensational Zionist
00:31:27.840Christians, and you can't win politically without their support. And on that point, and we can come0.65
00:31:34.040back to this a little bit more later, but on that point, I just want to state, for the record,
00:31:37.900I vehemently disagree. I think that that is a short-sighted strategy. There was a time where
00:31:45.600that may have been true. And even if it were ever true, and it probably was, the means still don't
00:31:51.340justify, or rather the end, if you win the election, the end still does not justify the
00:31:56.640means. It's like, okay, so great. So we got Bush into office. Great. All right. Like, oh, we got
00:32:02.700this person into office. We won this election with the GOP. How's that working out for us?
00:32:08.320How's that been working out? How has neoconservativism been working out for America's
00:32:13.380benefits? So yes, we pander to the dispensational Christian Zionist on the right political side of0.89
00:32:19.780the equation here in America so that we can rally the base. We love Israel. We really love Israel.
00:32:25.180Come and vote. Come out and vote. We get our neocon, limp-wristed GOP candidate into office.
00:32:32.160he does absolutely nothing except for give in to certain Jewish policies that end up giving us0.81
00:32:38.780more immigrants. Here, we become more fractured as a nation. The welfare state grows. Our taxes0.90
00:32:43.620raise all these different things. We go and fight another war that we have no business being a part
00:32:48.600of. So I think that it did win, and if we're saying winning the election is the end, but the
00:32:54.720means by which we won that election, and even winning the election itself, didn't actually
00:32:59.060transpire into some kind of benefit for America. And I think we can demonstrate that clearly. We
00:33:05.680all instinctively know this over the last 50, 60 years of American conservative politics.
00:33:11.060However, that was true. It wasn't beneficial, but it was true. It's no longer not even is it
00:33:19.280not beneficial, but it's not even true on its face anymore. It is a short-sighted strategy because
00:33:24.840what it assumes is that boomers are going to be the voting bloc in perpetuity, that they're always0.94
00:33:32.260going to be here. But we know that certainly the left has been this way for quite a while,0.94
00:33:37.500but now on the right, the younger contingency on the right, both Gen Z, certainly Gen Z and
00:33:45.340Gen Alpha, but also a growing number of millennials and a fair number of Gen X, pretty much millennials
00:33:51.900and Gen X are kind of split on the issue of pro-Israel or not. Gen Z and Gen Alpha are very
00:33:58.660much against a pro-Israel contingent. And boomers are really the only ones who are diehard. The0.77
00:34:06.180greatest dream of a boomer is that not only their children, but also their grandchildren would get0.96
00:34:11.520to go and die in the sand in the Middle East for Israel. And that draped over their casket at the0.89
00:34:17.560funeral, would be an American flag, an Israeli flag, and that there would be a pastor, you know,
00:34:22.680doing the eulogy, but also, you know, a Jewish rabbi who would come up and say a few words as
00:34:27.540well. I mean, that is the boomer's dream. It's very, I mean, I'm being a little facetious,
00:34:31.600but not much. It's really actually wicked. It's disgusting. It's really, really sad that this
00:34:37.000generation has been so deceived and so propagandized. But the point is, this generation,
00:34:43.160the boomers, will not be here forever. So if it ever were true that, well, the reason why we're0.99
00:34:49.540going to be very, very, very, very intentional not to be anti-Semitic, and not only will you
00:34:56.100avoid certain criticisms of Jewish people or Israel or Netanyahu, but we're actually going
00:35:01.820to go the opposite direction, and we're going to virtue signal on a regular basis through a blog
00:35:07.640or through a video or through a sermon or a tweet or whatever, that we're actually affectionate,
00:35:12.220that's a word that was used, affectionate toward Israel. We're going to do this because we can't
00:35:17.840win. We cannot establish Christian nationalism here in America without the GOP, and we will
00:35:23.560never win a GOP election without the boomers. And the boomers are, for better or worse, and it is1.00
00:35:31.040for worse, insufferable, diehard, never-relenting, dispensational Zionist Christians. But what you0.98
00:35:38.080get with that is number one, a short-sighted strategy because the boomers will be eventually1.00
00:35:42.980gone. That will no longer be a voting block. And you will have essentially persuaded all the0.99
00:35:49.200younger GOP voters, all the younger conservatives in the nation to despise you. You will have
00:35:54.040exasperated every single one of your sons to whether they'll no longer trust you. And then
00:36:00.320number two, even if the boomers did hang on forever and they start harvesting organs and0.93
00:36:05.780build a base on the moon and somehow, you know, attain transhumanism and upload their consciousness0.94
00:36:11.900to the cloud and keep voting, which I think the boomers, if they could, they would try to achieve0.52
00:36:16.120that. I think they're actively trying to achieve that even now. Even if those things happen,0.52
00:36:19.960here's the deal. You still don't win because you don't get Christian nationalism. You get Judeo0.64
00:36:25.040Christian nationalism. And what fellowship does light have with darkness? What fellowship0.78
00:36:29.880does Christ have with Beelzebul? I don't want, I'm not interested in Judeo-Christian nationalism.1.00
00:36:36.220I'll take the Christian, hold the Judeo, please, and thank you. That's not what we're trying to do.0.92
00:36:42.860But that is very clearly, I don't think he's being deceitful. I think he's just dead wrong. That's
00:36:48.180very clearly the motivation for Douglas Wilson, and I think it represents a large contingency
00:36:53.380of Christians on the political right side of the aisle here in America, that many of them
00:36:58.960are convinced that Israel is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and we absolutely need them,
00:37:04.820and it's a two-way relationship, or the best of them. And I do think that Douglas Wilson,
00:37:08.660in many cases, represents the best of them, but that's part of what makes him harmful,
00:37:13.400is that whenever alleged anti-Semitism is on the rise, on the right side of the aisle,0.86
00:37:20.760with Republican voters, conservative Christians, then they trot out the best of the Zionists,
00:37:26.360who, in a technical theological sense, can wave the car and say, well, I'm not actually a Zionist.0.60
00:37:31.280I actually hold to covenant theology. But also, Israel's really great, and we need to be really
00:37:35.940kind to the Zionists because that's the voting bloc. We'll never win an election without the0.98
00:37:39.820Jews. And this trope, tired trope, just keeps being drug out again and again and again. And0.98
00:37:47.020I'm tired of it, and I really appreciate the fact that it seems as though Tucker Carlson,
00:44:35.400Why are you talking about the USS Liberty, a well-documented event where Israeli aircraft attacked a U.S. carrier, claimed it was a big mistake,
00:44:43.020hundreds of United States service members injured, over 30 of them died.