The NXR Podcast - Off Limits News - Netanyahu Quotes Talmud ＂Rise and Kill First＂

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00:00:34.100 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to Off Limits News.

00:00:36.440 I'm your host, Harrison Smith.

00:00:38.100 We have a very special episode for you this week.

00:00:41.060 We're going to be covering the history of our world, how we got to where we are now,

00:00:47.200 and what we can learn about how we got here as we move into the future.

00:00:51.680 As you know, we've been covering the protocols of the learned elders of Zion on this channel

00:00:56.820 to much acclaim and much frustration from our enemies,

00:01:01.760 but we're taking a break from that for just a second.

00:01:03.760 We're no longer going to be talking about the fantastical conspiracy theorist nonsense

00:01:09.980 that we find in the protocols,

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00:01:14.120 of how elements from the protocols can be seen in real life.

00:01:18.820 Earlier this week, the Jewish News Syndicate held one of their yearly gatherings, and it had speeches from all sorts of prominent Israeli and the wider Jewish diaspora representatives, including the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu.

00:01:37.600 And while there, and while giving a speech about the state of the Middle East and Israel

00:01:41.660 and the war in Iran, slash the war in Lebanon, he made a very interesting statement that

00:01:46.920 has since garnered a lot of attention.

00:01:48.800 And I want to dig into this statement that he made.

00:01:51.340 It's not the first time he's made it.

00:01:52.480 In fact, it's something he regularly says. 0.77

00:01:54.680 And it is to quote the Talmud and the phrase, rise and kill first.

00:02:00.080 Here's Benjamin Netanyahu at the Jewish News Syndicate gathering earlier this week.

00:02:04.500 missile batteries missile production sites and nuclear sites we change israel's security doctrine

00:02:12.020 we initiate we attack we surprise and we attack those enemies that seek our destruction that 0.83

00:02:20.480 seek to kill us we attack them before they have a chance to do so if you know hebrew 0.99

00:02:25.440 kill them first 1.00

00:02:29.220 so there he is quoting the Hebrew 1.00

00:02:34.980 when somebody comes to kill you 1.00

00:02:36.500 rise and kill them first 1.00

00:02:38.480 now this is a statement 1.00

00:02:42.480 in general I agree with

00:02:44.000 and in fact when you look at the Talmud itself

00:02:46.240 in the context that this statement is made in

00:02:48.300 it actually makes perfect sense

00:02:49.900 and is a perfectly valid exercise of law

00:02:53.700 because if you don't know what the Talmud is

00:02:55.320 It is a religious text, but it's largely a tome of legal decisions being made and legal discussions being had.

00:03:04.840 It's a lot about the details and the nuances of legal proceedings, and this passage is no different.

00:03:11.980 So if we can throw up the quotes from the Talmud, I'll go ahead and read them here just so you can get this in context

00:03:16.480 so you can understand how far out of bounds the way it's used by Benjamin and Yahoo and others.

00:03:23.820 In other words, the statement in the Talmud sort of has nothing to do with what Benjamin Netanyahu just laid out, and I'll explain it all.

00:03:30.380 So, Mishnah.

00:03:31.640 A burglar who was found breaking into a home may be killed by the owner of the house with impunity.

00:03:36.800 He, too, is sentenced on account of his ultimate end, and it is presumed that if the owner of the house would resist the burglar, the burglar would kill the owner of the house.

00:03:45.420 If the burglar is breaking into the house, and in the course of doing so, he broke a barrel.

00:03:49.060 if there is blood guiltedness for killing him, i.e. if the homeowner would be liable for killing him,

00:03:54.240 the burglar is liable to pay for the value of the barrel.

00:03:56.720 Do you see what I mean? It's a little bit legalistic, isn't it?

00:03:59.200 It's not exactly, you know, the Song of Solomon or the Psalms.

00:04:05.200 This, I guess what you'd call, you know, sacred literature,

00:04:09.940 these verses are less, you know, poetic revelations from God

00:04:15.060 and more very mundane and almost secular discussions of the law.

00:04:22.440 So to summarize, and it goes on, let's go to the next one here

00:04:25.020 where the quote actually comes from.

00:04:26.820 This is the next passage down.

00:04:29.500 Gemara Rava says,

00:04:31.620 What is the reason for this halakha concerning a burglar who breaks into a house?

00:04:35.560 He explains there is a presumption that a person does not restrain himself

00:04:39.140 when faced with losing his money, and therefore his burglar must have said to himself,

00:04:42.940 If I go in and the owner sees me, he will rise against me and not allow me to steal from him. 0.99

00:04:47.220 And if he rises against me, I will kill him. 1.00

00:04:49.160 And the Torah stated a principle, if someone comes to kill you, rise and kill him first. 0.99

00:04:53.260 So this is the old Judaic version of the Stand Your Ground Law.

00:04:57.420 Essentially is what it is, or castle doctrine.

00:04:59.660 It's basically saying if somebody's breaking into your house, you don't know what their intentions are,

00:05:03.820 and you can safely assume that if they're willing to break into your house, 0.99

00:05:07.880 they may be willing to kill you, you can kill them, and it's justified. 0.99

00:05:11.780 That's what it means. That's where it comes from, from the Talmud, when you hear this phrase, 0.99

00:05:15.280 rise and kill first. That's what it's referencing. And in context, I have to say I completely agree 0.92

00:05:20.660 with it. I understand the logic. I understand the reasoning. It's what I would approve of

00:05:25.260 for a law here in America. It is, in fact, the law here in America in a lot of places,

00:05:29.660 and I approve of it in that case. So how did that passage, particularly about a criminal matter

00:05:37.620 and the average person's ability to respond to that criminal matter

00:05:42.040 and face persecution or prosecution or not,

00:05:45.600 how does that go from this sort of stand-your-ground law

00:05:49.520 to justification for massacres around the world,

00:05:53.880 targeted killings, assassinations, 0.55

00:05:55.860 and basically any other action that Israel seeks, I should say, to justify?

00:06:03.460 Because that's how this is being used,

00:06:06.300 And, of course, whenever I hear the phrase, I immediately think of a book by a man named Ronan Bergman with the title Rise and Kill First.

00:06:15.680 So that's actually what we're going to be covering today, is this book Rise and Kill First by Ronan Bergman.

00:06:21.800 Because the history of targeted killings, the assassination program in Israel, is in fact the history of Israel and in a lot of ways the secret history of the 21st century.

00:06:35.200 Well, really, the second half of the 20th century and the 21st century.

00:06:39.320 This book is about the targeted killing programs of Israel that basically got exported to other countries.

00:06:47.080 America has a very robust targeted killing program at this point. 0.88

00:06:51.040 We, of course, got the technique, strategy, and justification for it from Israel. 0.95

00:06:56.420 And it goes all the way back to long before Israel was even a country. 0.82

00:07:00.320 and in that way it also explains the reality of the construct of our world that things that are 0.86

00:07:07.940 done under the guise of nationhood actually arose out of a collection of really you know criminal

00:07:14.800 terrorists and this is all laid out it's a fascinating book it's like 800 pages long so

00:07:21.040 I'm not going to be able to get into even a fraction of what the book contains but we're

00:07:25.880 going to start at the beginning because I find that to be the most fascinating part. And really

00:07:30.640 largely the book gets into a lot of back and forth killing between Palestinian extremists and

00:07:35.640 Israeli extremists in the context of a wider war, which I consider sort of more understandable or

00:07:41.220 justifiable than what occurs at the beginning of the book, which is very much simply extrajudicial

00:07:46.900 murder that I want to talk about. And again, get into sort of how the mindset that's discussed in

00:07:53.400 this book informs the world that we live in today. So first of all, you need to know who Ronan Bergman

00:08:00.340 is. Ronan Bergman is not an enemy of Israel. He is not somebody who wrote this book to expose the

00:08:06.840 Jews or anything like that. He's a Jew himself. He's an Israeli himself. He actually is a writer

00:08:12.180 at one of the largest newspapers in Israel. And because he's pro-Israel and because he's sort of

00:08:17.780 telling this story from their perspective, he was actually able to get access to a lot of people in

00:08:22.800 Assad and around the assassination program that had never talked before, had never disclosed

00:08:29.260 their actions in this regard.

00:08:32.540 He got access to a lot of the stuff.

00:08:34.100 And in fact, there are some deaths that up until the book was published were considered

00:08:39.800 accidental or mysterious deaths.

00:08:41.760 There was a Palestinian leader of some sort who was poisoned and died an agonizing death

00:08:49.360 in Germany in the 70s.

00:08:51.080 I think it was 1977 where he died.

00:08:52.800 and it was officially declared you know an unknown cause you know they suspected natural causes or

00:08:59.200 just some unknown illness and it wasn't until this book came out that it was revealed that no he was

00:09:03.220 in fact poisoned with a slow acting poison months before by massad operatives so it's an absolutely

00:09:08.620 fascinating book i do encourage you to read it and in fact when i was listening to it for the

00:09:12.620 first time i was listening to it on audiobook and i have a very distinct memory of like mowing my

00:09:18.320 lawn and occasionally just while listening to this book just having to stop and just standing

00:09:23.260 in my yard sort of staring off mouth agape just just in wonder bedeviled befuddled by what I was

00:09:32.680 hearing because throughout this book there is this overwhelming sense of just aggressive chaos it is

00:09:41.900 just a litany of murder justified in the most tenuous ways. It's absolutely fascinating. So I'm

00:09:49.220 going to read some excerpts from the book and see if we can't glean some valuable information from

00:09:54.480 it, and hopefully encourage you to go get the book and do the research yourself. But again,

00:09:58.900 this is by Ronan Bergman. This is somebody who is Israeli, has access to all the Israeli files

00:10:05.560 that could possibly be available, including ones that were never available to anybody else.

00:10:08.840 interviews with people who were there on the ground participating in a lot of this stuff

00:10:13.320 so really this is in no way supposed to be an anti-israel book of any sort and yet when you

00:10:21.320 read it from my perspective it seems like a very anti-israel book and i i think you'll see why as

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00:11:57.940 description below. So first of all, what is the targeted killing program? What is this assassination

00:12:03.280 program that we'll be discussing? Well, as the book puts it, some euphemistically call it

00:12:10.180 liquidation. The American intelligence community calls it, for legal reasons, targeted killing.

00:12:15.220 In practice, these terms amount to the same thing, killing a specific individual in order to achieve

00:12:19.780 a specific goal, either saving the lives of people the target intends to kill, averting a dangerous

00:12:24.560 act that he's about to perpetrate and sometimes removing a leader in order to change the course

00:12:29.100 of history. And boy, has it changed the course of history. And one of the things you'll find

00:12:33.360 if you read this is it doesn't always change history in the way that's intended by the

00:12:37.860 assassins. Since World War II, the book continues, Israel has assassinated more people than any other

00:12:44.240 country in the Western world. On innumerable occasions, its leaders have weighed what would 0.64

00:12:48.160 be the best way to defend its national security and out of all the options have time and again

00:12:52.260 decided on clandestine operations with assassinations the method of choice. This, they believed, would

00:12:57.540 solve difficult problems faced by the state and sometimes change the course of history. In many

00:13:01.920 cases, Israel's leaders have been determined that in order to kill a designated target, it is moral

00:13:06.740 and legal to endanger the lives of innocent civilians who may happen to find themselves in

00:13:10.900 the line of fire. Harming such people, they believe, is a necessary evil. And I think you'll find

00:13:16.360 there's a lot of what they believe to be necessary evil in all of this. And of course, this book I

00:13:24.000 believe was written something like eight years ago, ten years ago, something like that, and yet

00:13:27.800 seems more relevant now than ever as you see the way in which targeted killings have both been the

00:13:35.540 primary method of regime change that America and Israel have pursued in the case of Iran, and what

00:13:41.760 an abysmal failure that has turned out to be. And you see this repeated over and over in the

00:13:47.060 annals of the Mossad slash Israeli assassination program. Israel's reliance on assassinations as

00:13:54.580 a military tool did not happen by chance. It rather stems from the revolutionary and activist

00:13:59.320 roots of the Zionist movement, from the trauma of the Holocaust, and from a sense among Israel's

00:14:04.120 leaders and citizens that the country and its people are perpetually in danger of annihilation

00:14:08.660 and that, as in the Holocaust, no one will come to their aid when it happens.

00:14:13.340 Once again, you'll see this repeated over and over again, 0.75

00:14:16.720 especially in the beginning here,

00:14:18.360 is that there is a sense of panic,

00:14:24.120 of almost frantic energy that pervades this entire book,

00:14:27.900 where never once is there an instance where they go,

00:14:30.540 oh, something just happened, let's calmly think through this.

00:14:35.020 Everything is treated as if it's an emergency.

00:14:37.680 everything is treated as if it has to happen right now, consequences be damned. And the really

00:14:43.740 interesting thing is almost every instance of an assassination in this book, and it talks about

00:14:51.680 hundreds and thousands and thousands in vague ways, but not in specific, almost every one of

00:14:58.960 them has at least one corollary, one attempt, one parallel mission that just fails a business

00:15:07.680 And again, you'll see this over and over, and we'll show you.

00:15:11.760 But there's a certain, again, franticness, hecticness, sloppiness that comes along with these missions that never seems to matter.

00:15:22.340 They never seem to get—there's no consequences when they messed up, and we'll look into this as well. 0.99

00:15:29.000 It says, if you are an enemy of Israel, we will find you and kill you wherever you are. 0.99

00:15:33.900 this is the message that is meant to be sent by the targeted killing not only are you eliminating 1.00

00:15:39.520 somebody who poses a threat to you or is perceived as posing a threat to you but it's a warning to

00:15:45.000 everybody else it doesn't matter where you are doesn't matter who you're protected by 0.94

00:15:48.660 israel can and will kill you so be careful right that's the message that is intended to be sent 0.91

00:15:55.640 the underlying current of targeted killing is the terror that they inspire the assassinations 0.92

00:16:02.740 were not, okay, now this part gets really interesting. This is from the intro of the book

00:16:06.720 and we'll go back in history and talk about how this all began, but this continues to this day

00:16:12.960 and this is a fascinating aspect of how these targeted killings in Israel are organized and

00:16:16.820 carried out. The assassinations are not all carried out by small closed groups. The more complex they

00:16:22.180 became, the more people took part, sometimes as many as hundreds, the majority of them below the

00:16:27.020 age of 25. Sometimes these young people will come with their commanders to meet the prime minister.

00:16:32.540 the only one authorized to greenlight an assassination in order to explain the operation and get final approval.

00:16:38.300 Such forums, in which most of the participants advocating for somebody's death are under the age of 30,

00:16:42.780 are probably unique to Israel.

00:16:44.940 Some of the low-ranking officers involved in these meetings have advanced over the years

00:16:48.180 to become national leaders and even prime ministers themselves.

00:16:51.020 What marks have remained and printed on them from times they took part in these operations?

00:16:56.300 So a couple aspects to this.

00:16:57.740 For one thing, you'll see throughout this book that every political leader in Israel has started as an assassin, every single one. 0.97

00:17:06.920 Every single prime minister, every single president for their entire history, the people their airports are named after, they are all murderers and terrorists. 0.97

00:17:16.760 It's crazy, but it's ubiquitous. 0.99

00:17:19.240 I mean, there's almost no exception.

00:17:20.740 and this continues to this day and it represents the lifelong indoctrination that occurs here that 0.60

00:17:30.900 people in Israel are raised with the understanding that you must rise and kill first that you should

00:17:39.520 feel no guilt at the slaughter of your enemies they're you know inducted into the IDF of course

00:17:46.580 forced to participate in some pretty insane and heinous actions that further sort of gets them

00:17:54.980 used to it, makes them numb to the reality of what they're doing. And then imagine being

00:18:01.440 an up-and-coming young aide in the IDF or a young commander. You're 25 years old,

00:18:09.340 but you're on your way up through the ranks, and you get a personal one-on-one or small group 0.96

00:18:14.300 meeting with the prime minister of Israel, and your job is to convince him to let you kill 0.98

00:18:19.500 somebody. And I'm sure these discussions are very interesting. I'm sure there's a lot of 0.96

00:18:24.960 back and forth weighing the propriety of how do we kill him? Is it right to kill him? And 1.00

00:18:30.700 if there's one thing that you should be aware of, the more and more that we show these clips of

00:18:36.100 these Israeli leaders or discuss the underlying methodology behind their tactics, I would

00:18:42.520 seriously doubt that ever once in the meeting is the morality of the act ever even brought up

00:18:49.740 or considered. It's, again, sort of a fascinating through line that you find throughout all of

00:18:55.780 books like Rise and Kill First is, yeah, they'll discuss whether or not the killing will have

00:19:00.740 negative consequences to them. They'll talk about whether doing such an immoral thing and being

00:19:06.460 caught will damage their reputation sufficiently overseas, or whether they can get away with it.

00:19:12.300 but there's really an absence of like but is this the right thing to do weighing the moral

00:19:19.240 implications of murdering somebody like that's a that's a major act that really has to be worth it

00:19:24.960 it can't just be something that you do on a whim or because you have the opportunity and yet time

00:19:30.860 and time again that's exactly what happens there'll be some opportunity they see to kill somebody or

00:19:37.380 a giant group of people and they just they take it even if the plans aren't in place even if

00:19:41.980 you know they're going to get caught and a lot of times they do get caught they never really get

00:19:45.180 punished never really get held to account for it they just get to sort of try again later if it

00:19:49.720 fails so you gotta you gotta imagine the mindset of the people that are involved in this system

00:19:57.000 that are engaged in this back and forth where you know you're sitting there arguing no we have to

00:20:03.960 kill this guy, and maybe there's some sort of pro forma pushback to it. But really, it's about

00:20:10.500 building up your confidence in, okay, this is the right thing to do. Yes, we can do this,

00:20:14.860 and yes, we are morally righteous in doing so. So let's get into chapter number one. So we sort

00:20:21.620 of begin in 1948, or the 1940s, around the founding of Israel and the terror attacks against

00:20:28.760 the British occupiers who were there facilitating the beginning of their country.

00:20:34.940 And then we go back in time a little bit, so we jump around a little bit, but we start

00:20:38.500 in the 1940s with the assassination of a man named Tom Wilkin.

00:20:44.440 So on September 29th, 1944, David Shamron hid in the gloom of St. George's Street,

00:20:50.280 not far from the Romanian church in Jerusalem.

00:20:52.580 A church building was used as officer's lodging by the British authorities governing Palestine,

00:20:56.920 and Shamran was waiting for those officers, a man named Tom Wilkin, to leave.

00:21:01.500 Wilkin was the commander of the Jewish unit at the Criminal Investigations Department, CID,

00:21:06.160 of the British Mandate for Palestine, and he was very good at his job,

00:21:09.540 especially the part that involved infiltrating and disrupting the fractious Jewish underground. 0.82

00:21:13.820 Aggressive, yet also exceptionally patient and calculating, Wilkin spoke fluent Hebrew,

00:21:19.120 and after 13 years of service in Palestine, he had extensive network of informants.

00:21:23.140 Thanks to the intelligence they provided, underground fighters were arrested,

00:21:26.300 Their weapons caches were seized, and their planned operations aimed at forcing the British to leave Palestine were foiled, which was why Shamran was going to kill him.

00:21:35.680 So again, just from the outset, if you know the history of the Balfour Declaration and the way that – England didn't actually have possessions in the Middle East to any sizable degree until the Balfour Declaration, until World War I. 0.78

00:21:51.940 when they go in, they create the mandate system basically specifically to allow Jews to have a

00:21:57.860 say in the governance of the area. They did a lot for the founding of the Jewish homeland. It was

00:22:04.780 not possible without the cooperation of not just the British authorities and the British hierarchy,

00:22:11.520 but the British military conquering the land, helping them get established. And almost

00:22:16.720 immediately, you get these terrorist attacks against the British trying to drive them out.

00:22:20.920 It's a lot of thankfulness coming from the Israeli positions, but also they're there trying to just keep a lid on this revolutionary Jewish uprising that was occurring at the time.

00:22:33.660 It wasn't a Jewish state. It was the British mandate system. It had previously been under control of the Ottomans, but the British were the lawful authority, and they were sort of desperately trying to tamp down on all the Jewish uprisings.

00:22:48.200 at the time, the Arabs were considered, you know, a crucial ally to the British, and they were more

00:22:55.060 on the Arab side, but, like, overall, you know, and this goes to Lawrence of Arabia, and I mean,

00:23:01.780 there's a long history to this, but the British mandate system was created basically to facilitate

00:23:08.940 the creation of Israel, and all of this had been done by the British in service of the Zionist

00:23:14.920 plan to create Israel. Again, we'll get 0.73

00:23:17.380 into this a little bit more later. Back

00:23:19.300 to the assassination of one of the

00:23:21.120 British authorities there. Shamran

00:23:23.300 and his partner that night, Yaakov Benai,

00:23:25.440 codenamed Mazal, meaning luck,

00:23:27.320 were operatives in Lehi,

00:23:29.380 the most radical of the Zionist underground

00:23:31.340 movements fighting the British in the early 1940s.

00:23:33.360 Though Lehi was an

00:23:35.180 acronym for the Jewish phrase Fighters for the Freedom

00:23:37.200 of Israel, the British considered it a terrorist

00:23:39.240 organization, because it was, referring

00:23:41.380 to it dismissively as the Stern Gang

00:23:43.320 after its founder, the romantic ultra-nationalist Abraham Stern.

00:23:47.900 Stern and his tiny band of followers employed a targeted mayhem of assassinations and bombings,

00:23:53.860 a campaign of quote-unquote personal terror as Lehigh operations chief

00:23:57.860 and later Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Shamir called it.

00:24:02.160 So again, when I tell you every prime minister of Israel, every president,

00:24:07.720 they all got their start as literal terrorists attacking the very nation that was helping them

00:24:14.080 get established in the first place, the British. So they discover Wilkin, discover where he's

00:24:19.720 residing in the Romanian church annex. They set out on their mission. Between them, Benai and

00:24:24.080 Shamran fired 14 times. 11 of those bullets hit Wilkin. And you get sort of the first taste of the

00:24:31.100 heartlessness of these actions here where they say, the only thing that hurt me was that we

00:24:36.500 forgot to take the briefcase in which he had all his documents, Shamran said. Other than that,

00:24:40.680 I didn't feel anything, not even a little twinge of guilt. We believe that the more coffins reached

00:24:45.480 London, the closer the day of freedom would be. And this sort of summarizes their entire

00:24:52.100 reasoning around this. Like, that's it. It's just like, the more people we kill,

00:24:56.420 the better it will be for us. And they just, they run on that platform. And to be fair, it 0.97

00:25:03.940 pretty much worked and one of the things you'll see is that that is the major advantage that the 0.99

00:25:10.600 israelis enjoy throughout the whole book is their utter ruthlessness is their utter lack of hesitation 0.81

00:25:18.580 in murdering literally anybody to do anything uh killing innocent people like they don't care

00:25:25.540 they literally have quotes that are like you know us killing the wrong target wasn't is not a failure

00:25:31.700 of an operation it's just a mistake the operation continued like they it's so casual it's so

00:25:37.020 blasé they're not bounded by concerns of morality or even backlash like nothing really matters and

00:25:46.180 they are willing to do extraordinary things that just their opponents don't expect or aren't willing

00:25:54.360 to do themselves and that is really the primary advantage they enjoy again you'll see it over and

00:25:59.180 over. So the strategy of terror and murder, the idea that the return of the people of Israel to 0.97

00:26:07.400 the land of Israel could be achieved only by force, was not born with Stern and his Lehi 0.90

00:26:12.380 comrades. The roots of the strategy can be traced to eight men who gathered in a stifling one-room 0.99

00:26:17.220 apartment overlooking an orange grove in Jaffa on September 29th, 1907, exactly 37 years before

00:26:23.420 a fountain of blood spurted from Wilkin's head. The Palestine, when Palestine was still part of

00:26:29.560 the Turkish Ottoman Empire. The flat was rented by Yitzhak bin Zvi, a young Russian who'd immigrated

00:26:35.820 to Ottoman Palestine earlier that year. Zionism was a political ideology that had been founded

00:26:41.700 in 1896 when Viennese Jewish journalist Theodor Herzl published Der Dudenstadt, the Jewish state.

00:26:49.420 He had been deeply affected while covering the trial in Paris of Alfred Dreyfus, a Jewish army officer unjustly accused and convicted of treason.

00:26:57.840 But he goes on to say, while Herzl, Theodor Herzl, attempted and in many ways successfully pursued a diplomatic creation of Israel with the UN and the British and a bunch of European nations agreeing to recognize the state.

00:27:13.660 He was called a political Zionist, the Lehigh gang, the Stern gang.

00:27:18.000 they were the practical Zionist.

00:27:20.800 Benjvi and his seven comrades, on the other hand,

00:27:22.880 were, like most other Russian Jews, practical Zionists. 0.97

00:27:26.140 Rather than wait for the rest of the world to give them a home, 1.00

00:27:28.400 they believed in creating one themselves,

00:27:30.120 in going to Palestine, working the land, 0.93

00:27:32.160 making the desert bloom, and also killing a bunch of people. 1.00

00:27:36.300 They would take what they believed to be rightfully theirs

00:27:38.980 and would defend what they had taken. 0.78

00:27:41.620 So when you talk about the creation of Israel,

00:27:43.460 understand it didn't start in 1948.

00:27:44.860 It started much earlier.

00:27:47.060 And the way it's presented is a people without a land for a land without a people, that it

00:27:54.440 was this return of the lost tribe to its homeland that was basically empty and a total desert.

00:28:00.960 In reality, it was a thriving cosmopolitan, maybe not the richest part of the Ottoman

00:28:07.600 Empire, but certainly not the most destitute either, Jews, Muslims, Christians living in

00:28:13.680 basic harmony.

00:28:14.800 If you want to know more about this, you can watch a PBS documentary called 1913 Seeds of Conflict, which again, 1913, what, 35 years before the foundation of Israel officially, and yet these Jewish colonists had arrived in this area.

00:28:33.360 And they were all almost universally expats from the Pale of Settlement in Russia and the rest of Eastern Europe who had basically been kicked out of their lands because they had attempted a socialist or communist uprising or one or another.

00:28:49.300 So when you think about the foundation of Israel, understand it was literally communist revolutionaries going to Palestine and just setting up terror organizations to take the land over. 0.56

00:29:01.040 There's nothing righteous about this.

00:29:03.080 There's nothing religiously motivated even about this.

00:29:05.760 They tried originally to take over Russia.

00:29:07.760 It just didn't work, so then they went to Palestine and tried it there.

00:29:11.400 And so as he paints the picture of these eight men sitting in a secluded shadowy room in Jaffa in 1907,

00:29:20.060 you have to understand, for the rest of the world, the rest of the Ottoman Empire at the time,

00:29:23.960 they're dealing with other stuff.

00:29:25.020 they have no idea that you know there has arrived this radical revolutionary communist sect that is

00:29:32.380 hell-bent on waging terror to take that land away from them they just have no idea which again this

00:29:38.060 is one of the advantages if you have the initiative if you're the one that starts the fight if you're

00:29:42.600 the one that can be laying plans and laying out strategy while the other person doesn't even

00:29:47.840 realize you're there i mean that is a unbelievable advantage and that's the advantage that these

00:29:53.640 groups enjoyed. Benzvi and his friends found this situation to be unsustainable and intolerable.

00:30:00.140 The fact that they were using Arab guards to guard some of the Jewish kibbutzes that they

00:30:05.220 were building. Benzvi and his friends found this situation to be unsustainable and intolerable.

00:30:09.640 Some were former members of Russia's left-wing revolutionary movements inspired by the People's

00:30:13.840 Will, an aggressive anti-Tsarist guerrilla movement that employed terrorist tactics,

00:30:17.980 including assassinations. Disappointed by the abortive 1905 revolution in Russia,

00:30:22.400 which in the end produced only minimal constitutional reforms, some of these socialist

00:30:26.580 revolutionaries, social democrats and liberals moved to Ottoman Palestine to re-establish

00:30:32.360 a Jewish state. So again, these are literal Russian socialist revolutionaries that tried

00:30:38.420 to overthrow the czar in 1905, failed in that mission, and then went to Ottoman Palestine to

00:30:45.220 try to start a state there. It's not like these people were motivated by life. It's not like

00:30:48.900 They had had a religious conviction for their entire life that they must return to their homeland and fulfill the Torah.

00:30:55.960 This was an act of necessity because they were being hunted for being revolutionaries in their homeland and fled to Israel.

00:31:05.980 And, of course, they then returned later to Russia once the Bolshevik Revolution had succeeded a decade later.

00:31:12.240 It was these very same people who'd often sort of refined their political beliefs in Israel as part of the Kibbutz program, which were communistic, who then went back to Russia to put communism into place in a national way.

00:31:27.440 So these Russian terrorists that moved to Ottoman Palestine named their fledgling army Bar Giora after one of the leaders of the great Jewish revolt against the Roman Empire in the first century.

00:31:39.320 On their banner, they paid homage to that ancient rebellion and predicted their future,

00:31:44.480 saying, in blood and fire Judea fell, in blood and fire Judea will rise. 0.86

00:31:49.820 Judea would indeed rise. 0.73

00:31:51.440 Ben-Jvi would one day be the Jewish nation's second president, 0.81

00:31:55.260 yet first there would be much fire and much blood. 0.50

00:31:59.520 Sort of an underlying question, might be wrong with your head,

00:32:03.040 is was all the blood and fire even necessary? 0.93

00:32:06.200 Could they not have established a Jewish state without murdering British people who are trying to help them? 0.99

00:32:13.100 I think time and time again the answer would probably be yes, and it would probably be more stable and more peaceful if they were to do so. 0.99

00:32:19.300 But there is a total lack of willingness to even entertain less violent ideas. 0.55

00:32:24.760 So once again, you see the first prime ministers, the first presidents, they are literal terrorists, Russian communists that move to a land they've never been to, their family's never been to. 0.60

00:32:34.860 and simply start establishing a reign of terror there in order to seize the land. 0.62

00:32:40.080 And this would never have been effective if you didn't have the corresponding diplomatic side 0.85

00:32:46.900 of the political Zionists like Theodor Herzl who were there giving them cover 0.81

00:32:52.380 and sort of going, well, those guys are crazy and we aren't with them, 0.52

00:32:56.220 but we do need to do what those guys want us to do.

00:32:59.140 But we do need to do what their ideas are and why they're doing the terrorism,

00:33:03.660 but that's not us and we're not doing that.

00:33:05.580 Like you almost have to have both sides of this

00:33:08.140 because otherwise it would just be perceived

00:33:10.520 as what it was, which is a communist terrorist group

00:33:14.060 trying to take over a place that they don't own.

00:33:16.900 But when you have the political side of things

00:33:19.140 smoothing that over and providing cover for it,

00:33:22.580 it suddenly becomes a lot easier.

00:33:24.120 And you also see this obsession, recurring obsession

00:33:27.040 with the fall of Judea under the Romans.

00:33:31.020 and this it's like they've never gotten over it really and even to this day you know if you watch

00:33:37.240 the eighth front war my documentary which you can find at the top of my x account at harrison h smith

00:33:41.660 it starts off with benjamin and yahoo talking about reading a book called the jews versus rome

00:33:47.040 saying we lost that one we're going to win the next one combined with his other statements made

00:33:52.180 elsewhere where he said where he says america is the new rome so it's like okay they're obsessed

00:33:57.820 with defeating rome and they perceive america and europe as rome and they change their names like

00:34:04.600 that i mean the level of dedication they have to this on on one hand is actually admirable

00:34:09.900 you know the the and i'll get to in a second but ben-gurion david ben-gurion who the you know

00:34:16.180 airport is named after you know their founding uh first president i believe or first prime minister

00:34:20.780 but he he's all throughout this book and he of course was born in poland with a polish name

00:34:27.080 Ben-Gurion is another, was another leader of the Great Revolt against Rome. So, you know,

00:34:33.380 this would be like me renaming myself Davy Crockett, okay, going, okay, we're going to

00:34:39.460 Texas, we're going to take it over, and I'm actually not Harrison Smith anymore, you can

00:34:43.120 call me Davy Crockett. Or, you know, they take David from one thing and Ben-Gurion for another,

00:34:48.180 so I could be, you know, Alexander Crockett or something like that. And when I put it that way,

00:34:53.200 it's like well on one hand that's kind of cool i kind of get that going back to your roots like

00:34:58.600 you feel like you're embodying this you know ancient hero of your people on the other hand

00:35:05.100 it shows a level of sort of obsessive concern with something that happened 2 000 years ago which is

00:35:11.740 deeply unhealthy and has nothing to do with the current or even you know contemporary time period

00:35:18.940 that they were doing these things, but you see this over and over again. They really do identify

00:35:25.060 very, very strongly with the Jews that were expelled from their homeland 2,000 years ago

00:35:31.280 because they couldn't chill. They just couldn't chill. With more like-minded Jews flooding into 0.99

00:35:37.480 the Yeshuv, the sort of proto-Israel settlement network, as the Jewish community in Palestine

00:35:46.700 was called. Bar Ghiora in 1909 was reconstituted into the larger and more aggressive Hashomer,

00:35:52.320 that's Hebrew for the guard. By 1912, Hashomer was defending 14 settlements, yet it was also

00:35:58.320 developing offensive, albeit clandestine, capabilities, preparing for what practical

00:36:04.040 Zionists saw as the inevitable eventual war to take control of Palestine. Hashomer, therefore, 0.58

00:36:09.020 saw itself as a nucleus for a future Jewish army and intelligence services. And so once again,

00:36:14.640 And there's a lot of back and forth here. There are examples of Arab organizations before Israel existed going into the Jewish quarters where these settlers were and massacring a bunch of people, and then the Jews fighting back and massacring a bunch of their people, and there's a tit-for-tat by no means by putting all of this on the Jews.

00:36:36.240 But from even that passage right there, you have to understand these people had an ultimate goal of totally taking over all of the land, expelling all of the people, and killing anybody who didn't comply.

00:36:50.120 So to me, knowing that – the Arabs didn't know that for sure at the time. 0.87

00:36:57.400 I'm sure some of them saw all of these eastern Europeans moving in and thought, okay, we got to put a stop to this now because clearly they're trying to take this over. 0.85

00:37:05.020 I'm sure some of them had an idea of what the ultimate plans were, but by keeping the ultimate plans concealed, by keeping their offensive actions clandestine, they can really go both ways where, hey, we're just trying to live here. 0.87

00:37:19.000 We're just trying to live our lives. 1.00

00:37:20.140 We keep getting attacked by Arabs. 1.00

00:37:22.500 This is totally unfair. 1.00

00:37:23.860 What did we do wrong?

00:37:25.400 But at the same time, in secret, they're going, we're going to take this place over. 1.00

00:37:29.120 We're going to kill everybody that opposes us. 1.00

00:37:30.960 So in retrospect, you go, no, those Arabs had a perfectly valid reason to try to go after y'all. This wasn't random hateful terror because you're Jews. This was they were aware of your ultimate plans and were trying to stop you using what I would consider valid tactics when you're talking about an actual war. 1.00

00:37:50.320 But when one side isn't admitting that they're fighting the war, isn't admitting that they're planning a war, it's hard to make that case, and the people who are trying to stop that war look like terrorists.

00:38:01.560 In 1920, Hashemur evolved again, now into the Haganah, Hebrew for defense, though it was not specifically legal.

00:38:09.060 Though it was not specifically legal.

00:38:12.620 That word specifically is a little bit excess.

00:38:16.580 I don't think we need that.

00:38:17.580 It was not legal is what they mean.

00:38:19.160 Even though it was an illegal terrorist group, the British authorities, who had been ruling the country for about three years, tolerated the Haganah as a paramilitary defensive arm of the Yishuv.

00:38:30.420 The Hitz-Tadrut, the socialist labor unions of the Jews in Israel that was founded in the same year, and the Jewish agency, the Yishuv's autonomous governing authority, established a few years later, both headed by David Ben-Gurion, maintained command over the secret organization.

00:38:46.260 Ben-Gurion was born David Youssef Grun in Polansk, Poland in 1886.

00:38:52.760 And, of course, he changes his name to David Ben-Gurion, a reference to one of those leaders of the Great Jewish Revolt against Rome.

00:39:01.820 But, again, so this is the true founding of Israel.

00:39:04.520 The true founding of Israel is a collection of Eastern European communist terrorists killing Arabs claiming self-defense because they aren't trying to wage a war, but they were actually secretly waging a war, and as these organizations sort of morph and form and it goes from the Bar Giora to the Hashomer to the Haganah, it eventually kalesks into the Mossad and the Shin Bet, and it goes through these evolutions.

00:39:33.980 But it's all the same people. It's all the same motives. It's all the same command structure since the very beginning and even before the beginning of Israel all the way up to the early 1900s where all of these institutions, their practices, their behaviors, and their command structures were put into place.

00:39:49.880 They really haven't changed up to this day, and the pipeline continues, right?

00:39:56.880 Netanyahu, Ehud Barak, Ehud Barak, the previous prime minister before Netanyahu, who is all throughout the Jeffrey Epstein files, he plays a very, very big role in Rise and Kill First.

00:40:07.780 He was sort of a legendary Jewish assassin against the Lebanese people when he carried out Operation Spring in Beirut.

00:40:18.500 So he changed his name to Ben-Gurion after another of the leaders of the revolt against Rome.

00:40:22.700 Again, just shows the dedication they have to avenging the defeat they suffered at the hands of the Romans 2,000 years ago.

00:40:32.560 Abraham Tahomi, the man who shot Dahan, this would be another sort of rival power broker to Ben-Gurion,

00:40:40.940 despised the moderate line Ben-Gurion took against the British and the Arabs.

00:40:44.040 and together with some other leading figures, he quit Haganah in 1931 and formed the Irgun Zvi

00:40:49.560 Leumi, the national military organization whose Hebrew acronym, Etzel, usually referred to in

00:40:56.180 English as IZL or the Irgun. This was a radical right-wing group that commanded in the 1940s by

00:41:02.200 Minichem Begin, who in 1977 was to become the prime minister of Israel, of course. So again,

00:41:08.680 These were people who were more radical than Ben-Gurion, and so even as you have the former terrorist organizations coalesce and be officialized into the fledgling pre-Israel state military operations, you have the more radical elements of that breaking off simultaneously to create an even more radical sect of terrorists that itself would later be folded into the very same command structure. 0.53

00:41:38.120 Opponents of Begin's agreement to cooperate with Britain in its war against the Nazis broke away and formed Lehi.

00:41:44.020 So now you have Lehi, Irgun, and the wider array of defense programs that Ben-Gurion operates.

00:41:52.360 These two dissent groups both advocated to differing degrees the use of targeted killings against the Arabs and British enemies and against Jews they considered dangerous to their cause.

00:42:01.060 Ben-Gurion remained adamant that targeted killings would not be used as a weapon and

00:42:05.740 even took aggressive measures against those who did not obey his orders.

00:42:08.980 But when World War II ended and everything, even the views of the obstinate Ben-Gurion

00:42:13.340 changed.

00:42:14.200 But then World War II ended and everything, including the views of obstinate Ben-Gurion,

00:42:17.920 changed.

00:42:18.520 So this is, again, where it gets a little bit crazy talking about the actions during

00:42:24.980 World War II, especially in context of the name of the book and the quote that we started

00:42:30.100 the show with, which is rise and kill first, which is a distinctively defensive statement.

00:42:37.400 In other words, you are allowed to kill somebody if it is in an effort to save your life from

00:42:43.400 an imminent threat.

00:42:44.580 What we're describing here is something entirely different.

00:42:49.080 During World War II, some 38,000 Jews from Palestine volunteered to help serve in the

00:42:53.840 British Army in Europe.

00:42:54.640 The British formed the so-called Jewish Brigade, albeit somewhat reluctantly, and only after

00:42:59.940 being pressured by the issue of civilian leadership. This was a mistake. I'm going to let

00:43:04.380 you know right now this was a mistake that the British Army made, and this is where you start

00:43:09.680 to see the way in which the laws, the regulations, the morality, or just the tradition that governs 0.67

00:43:19.640 regular human behavior does not apply to these early Israelis. They are operating on an entirely 0.85

00:43:26.580 different moral paradigm that is largely unrecognizable. One of those soldiers was

00:43:32.280 Mordecai Gishon, who would later be one of the founders of the Israeli military intelligence.

00:43:38.560 This Gishon, and I don't know if I'm pronouncing this right, but I assume it's Gishon.

00:43:42.660 He was actually born in Germany and moved to Israel. He returned as a soldier to Europe in

00:43:51.200 ruins. His people nearly destroyed, their communities smoldering in ruins. The Jewish

00:43:56.160 people had been humiliated, trampled, murdered, he said. Now was the time to strike back, to take 0.98

00:44:01.020 revenge. In my dreams, when I enlisted, revenge took the form of me arresting my best friend from

00:44:06.320 Germany, whose name was Detlef, the son of a police major. That's how I would restore lost 0.84

00:44:11.360 Jewish honor. It was that sense of lost honor, of a people's humiliation, as much as rage at the 0.97

00:44:16.980 Nazis, that drove men like Gishon. And it goes on more about this. He really, really, really hated

00:44:25.060 the Jews in Germany for allowing this to be done to them. And it is this, it's this sense of

00:44:33.460 revenge, vengeance, inadequacy that they're seeking to overcome. Like these are not healthy

00:44:39.900 motivations. This is not, this has absolutely nothing to do with, they're going to kill us.

00:44:44.580 We have to kill them first. Most of the killings we're about to describe happened long after 0.97

00:44:49.200 the war ended, and even the people who are killed have, by necessity or choice, removed themselves

00:44:57.440 completely from the game, but not in the eyes of the Israeli extremists. And again, you have to

00:45:04.760 really look at everything that's said in this book with a skeptical eye, and a lot of times

00:45:12.880 it presents claims about Nazi atrocities and totally unambiguous and as if it's absolutely

00:45:21.060 true. I have my own questions about this. At the same time, there is a very clear shadow war going 0.97

00:45:27.760 on after World War II, where for the most part, you have the former leaders of the German nation

00:45:34.960 fleeing, hiding, trying to go to ground in places like South America, or in other cases,

00:45:40.360 going to Egypt to help them build rockets that would eventually be used

00:45:45.140 or threaten to be used against Israel.

00:45:47.840 And you have simultaneously just a continual war being waged by the Israelis 0.95

00:45:54.920 to identify and murder all of them. 0.86

00:45:57.800 And it went on for years and years and years in, again,

00:46:03.420 just like abject violation of everything we believe in the West.

00:46:09.660 This is one of the frustrating things when you hear people talk about Israel as if it is a outlet of the West, as if it is a bulwark of the West.

00:46:17.000 Israel is not the West, and they don't believe anything that we believe, and this becomes abundantly clear.

00:46:22.940 As again, you see that the way that rage and vengeance are not considered bad reasons to do something. 0.64

00:46:31.320 We might say, hey, they did this out of rage.

00:46:33.460 They did this because they wanted to seek vengeance, and we understand that motivation.

00:46:37.360 but we don't say that that person's a hero for that.

00:46:40.380 We don't say that that person is right to be motivated by these things.

00:46:45.920 You're not supposed to be, but you make bad decisions

00:46:48.200 when you motivate yourself with these things.

00:46:50.780 But this really was like a powerful feeling to them.

00:46:56.260 He says, the soldiers from the land of Israel, standing erect, strong, tough,

00:47:00.220 saw the Holocaust survivors as victims who needed help,

00:47:02.980 but also as part of the European Jewry who had allowed themselves to be massacred. 0.73

00:47:06.860 They embodied the cowardly, feeble stereotypes of the Jews in the diaspora, the exile in 0.86

00:47:12.200 traditional Jewish and Zionist parlance, who surrendered rather than fought back, who did 0.99

00:47:16.800 not know how to shoot or wield a weapon. 0.93

00:47:18.780 It was that image, in its most extreme version, the Jew was the muscle man, prisoner slaying 0.90

00:47:23.460 for emaciated, zombie-like inmates hovering near death in the Nazi camps that the Jews 0.66

00:47:27.540 of the issue have rejected.

00:47:29.140 My brain could not grasp, not then and not today, how there were tens of thousands of

00:47:34.080 Jews in a camp with only a few German guards, but they did not rise up. They simply went like 0.99

00:47:37.800 lambs to the slaughter. Yeah, it's kind of unbelievable, isn't it? It's kind of crazy that

00:47:41.620 that would happen, huh? So again, it's like this guy was born in Germany. This guy lived a portion

00:47:50.200 of his life in Germany. He had a German best friend at one time. Very interestingly, I noticed

00:47:57.080 the dates of this guy, Gishon. He's born in Germany. He moves to Palestine in 1934. So I

00:48:05.800 went ahead and looked it up. This is, you know, I asked ChatGPT because it was hard to find the

00:48:10.120 actual information. But I asked, was Mordecai Gishon's family immigrated to Palestine as part

00:48:16.600 of the Havara Agreement between Nazi Germany and the Zionist movement? And it appears though he

00:48:22.620 almost certainly was. The Havara Agreement was signed in 1923 between representatives of Nazi

00:48:28.700 Germany and the Jewish community in mandatory Palestine. So pre-Israel, this was the aforementioned 0.85

00:48:34.660 communist terrorists that were living there. It allowed German Jews to immigrate to Palestine 0.71

00:48:40.740 while recovering part of their assets instead of taking money directly out of Germany, which Nazi

00:48:44.160 currency controls largely prohibited. Immigrants deposited funds in Germany whose funds were used

00:48:48.540 to purchase German goods exported to Palestine, and the immigrants received proceeds after their

00:48:52.320 arrival. Between 1933 and 1939, roughly 50,000 to 60,000 German Jews immigrated to Palestine

00:48:59.120 under the arrangements related to the agreement. Since Gishon's family left Berlin in 1934,

00:49:04.460 they were immigrating during the peak years of this program. Now it says not all of them moved

00:49:08.880 under this program, but the move in 1934 fits the exact time period and migration stream associated

00:49:15.360 with the Havar agreement, but we do not find evidence that his family specifically immigrated

00:49:19.340 under that program but i think it's worth it to note that like the people he's encountering 0.62

00:49:25.300 in europe the jews that he despises for being so weak it's like what but why didn't why didn't they

00:49:32.540 leave why didn't they leave though his family left it's kind it's like yeah you you feel bad 0.96

00:49:39.060 for him you feel sorry for him but the way that that he perceives it is as if you know germany 0.56

00:49:44.260 just gave them no choice and just murdered all of them they like just willingly acquiesced to it 0.95

00:49:49.160 which is a completely ridiculous interpretation 0.99

00:49:54.780 of the facts on the ground

00:49:56.220 but it is the interpretation that informs his actions moving forward

00:49:59.600 in the following years the Zionists of the issue would prove

00:50:01.980 both to the world and more importantly to themselves 0.96

00:50:03.880 that Jews would never again go to such slaughter 0.51

00:50:06.200 and that Jewish blood would not come cheaply 1.00

00:50:08.080 the six million would be avenged

00:50:10.640 so again this is like while the war is already going on

00:50:13.780 there's a bit of a discrepancy I see

00:50:16.300 in the way that the holocaust or the six million is being referenced as as motivating these actions

00:50:23.900 since the death camps the concentration camps tabernika also like these things were not even

00:50:31.280 investigated until after the war happened so how could they be motivated by something that

00:50:37.520 they didn't know was actually happening unless they were being told it was happening by people

00:50:43.860 who were sending reports back.

00:50:45.600 How could you trust those reports as being factual?

00:50:48.840 I'm not really sure.

00:50:50.300 Haganah's leaders privately understood the need

00:50:52.040 for some sort of retribution,

00:50:53.460 both to satisfy the troops

00:50:54.520 who'd been exposed to the atrocities

00:50:56.120 and also to achieve some degree of historical justice

00:50:58.680 and deferred future attempts to slaughter Jews.

00:51:01.360 Thus, they sanctioned some types of reprisals

00:51:03.600 against Nazis and their accomplices.

00:51:05.580 Immediately after the war,

00:51:06.620 a secret unit authorized and controlled

00:51:08.460 by the Haganah High Command

00:51:10.200 and unknown to the British commanders

00:51:11.740 was set up within the brigade.

00:51:13.860 It was called gamul, Hebrew word for recompense.

00:51:16.860 The unit's mission was to revenge, but not a robber's revenge, as a secret memo at the time put it,

00:51:22.840 revenge against those SS men who themselves took part in the slaughter.

00:51:28.480 So again, this is the British army being convinced by the civilian leadership of the proto-state of Israel

00:51:35.440 to accept 38,000 Jewish civilian volunteers for this army brigade.

00:51:40.460 And that Army Brigade decides to, under the cover of the British Army and in British Army uniforms, to carry out a program of murder against the defeated and imprisoned enemies of the Germans. 0.79

00:51:54.000 And they did this using the access that they were granted through the British military system as well as, of course, their agents all over Germany and all over the rest of the world, constantly feeding them information.

00:52:08.820 and again

00:52:10.180 there's so much

00:52:12.560 I'm going to have to do multiple episodes

00:52:14.480 about Rise and Kill first

00:52:15.740 if y'all like it let me know in the comments

00:52:18.000 and I'll continue on this

00:52:19.380 I knew I wasn't going to get very far

00:52:21.320 but there's so much more to go

00:52:23.720 operating as a British major

00:52:26.300 this man Gishan

00:52:29.020 gleaned more information

00:52:30.400 from Yugoslavian communists

00:52:31.760 who were still afraid to carry out

00:52:32.820 revenge attacks themselves

00:52:33.900 a few Jews in American intelligence

00:52:35.780 were also willing to help

00:52:36.840 by handing over information

00:52:37.960 they had on escaped Nazis, which they thought the Palestinian Jews could better affect than the

00:52:42.580 American military. Which again, that's like treason. That's like what you'd call treason,

00:52:47.460 I'm pretty sure. And over and over again in this book, this type of action is treated as just

00:52:52.920 par for the course. And it's like, no, that's actually a big deal. When you have people in

00:52:59.340 the American military handling intelligence that's sensitive and confidential, the American

00:53:04.100 military decides not to act on that intelligence for one reason or another then they immediately

00:53:09.200 go outside of their chain of command go to a foreign nation and provide them the information

00:53:13.700 it's like this is these are traitors in our midst this is not the way the western world comports

00:53:18.520 itself this is not the way the laws national or internationally operate we're supposed to have

00:53:25.980 a civilization here we're supposed to provide people an opportunity to make their case before

00:53:30.820 we slaughtered them remember there were the nuremberg trials we tried and convicted a huge

00:53:35.800 number of the nazi leadership the ones that weren't convicted in the nuremberg trial maybe

00:53:44.400 there's a reason for that again this was a years-long war a really decades-long struggle

00:53:50.760 in germany through nazi like it's like the people nowadays where they'll throw a 98 year old woman

00:53:58.420 in jail because she was a secretary for some nazi 80 years ago and it's like what is the point of

00:54:05.880 this what is the point these people were not they not proven to have committed crimes against

00:54:12.380 anybody they were not proven to have done anything other than you know obey the orders of the lawful

00:54:17.600 authority in their country like what gives you the right to murder them especially what gives

00:54:23.400 you the right to put on the uniform of an allied country who is obeying the law who is abiding by

00:54:29.720 moral a moral framework that western europe understands use the access they get through that

00:54:39.660 to carry out extrajudicial murders and then the real question on top of that is why does nothing

00:54:44.960 happen to them when they get caught because you'll see that in just a second they say coercion

00:54:49.820 worked too. In 1945, Gamul agents 0.70

00:54:52.000 found a Polish-born German couple

00:54:53.640 who lived in Tarvizio.

00:54:56.280 The wife had been involved in transferring

00:54:57.800 stolen Jewish property from Austria and 0.81

00:54:59.780 Italy to Germany, and her husband had helped

00:55:01.840 run the regional Gestapo office. 1.00

00:55:03.800 The Palestinian Jewish soldiers offered

00:55:05.860 them a stark choice, cooperate or 0.90

00:55:07.900 die. And again, 0.76

00:55:09.920 is this like, is this

00:55:11.980 a story of a

00:55:13.840 moral triumph?

00:55:15.680 Because that's how it's always presented. 1.00

00:55:17.960 It's like, these damn 1.00

00:55:19.600 nazis think they can just go on vacation those these terrorists these monsters think that they 1.00

00:55:26.360 can just live a normal life we will hold them to account for their crimes but like what did we just

00:55:30.660 read there one guy was uh in the office of the local gestapo it's like the federal police like

00:55:37.600 the pretty sure their main purpose a large part was oppressing the german people right stopping

00:55:43.920 them from you know expressing themselves in ways that didn't comport with the nazis and again what

00:55:48.620 you see here is sort of over and over again the nazis you know what they're accused of is brutal

00:55:56.120 if they really did it you know and i have no doubt that they did do some of these things

00:56:01.320 but even if they only did a portion of it you see once again the sort of cost of

00:56:07.180 the lack of humanity that the nazis represented their you know stories over and over in this book

00:56:15.260 again verified unverified whatever of you know nazi commanders just like locking people into 0.98

00:56:23.300 synagogues and lighting them on fire uh killing people on the side of ditches and whatever you

00:56:28.740 think about the holocaust and its official you know capital h holocaust trademark uh creation

00:56:36.520 the gas chambers that sort of stuff uh there was a level of inhumanity that the nazis treated their

00:56:43.280 opponents with that in a lot of ways gave validation to this viewpoint when in reality

00:56:50.980 you know i don't know it's like this couple is on vacation somewhere it doesn't sound like they were

00:56:58.600 like pulling the switch in the electrocution chambers like it sounds like they she like

00:57:04.480 transferred material so it sounds like she would maybe have like a desk job and you know would

00:57:10.920 like count the material that came in so she could deliver you know it's like is this worthy of being

00:57:15.740 uh threatened with death if you don't give up your family members like is that really is this

00:57:21.160 really a righteous cause to go after what seems to be from their own description extremely low

00:57:28.560 level you know government employees from germany i mean they don't ever have to make the case they 0.96

00:57:37.440 don't ever have to prove that they were these criminals that deserve death. They never give

00:57:42.160 them a trial. They just murder them. I'm against that. Personally, I'm against the extrajudicial

00:57:48.080 murder by a non-state terrorist group in British uniforms. Personally, I'm against that.

00:57:54.720 But the view from these people is they're Nazis. They tried to kill all of us. They get what they 0.93

00:57:58.560 deserve. It's a very poisonous mindset. The Goy broke and said he was willing to cooperate,

00:58:04.720 said Yisrael Carmi, who interrogated the couple, and later, after Israel was born,

00:58:09.000 would become the commander of the Israeli army's military police.

00:58:12.740 I assigned him to prepare lists of all the senior officials that he knew

00:58:16.560 and who had worked with the Gestapo and the SS, name, date of birth, education, and positions.

00:58:21.520 The result was a dramatic intelligence breakthrough, a list of dozens of names.

00:58:25.300 Gamul's men tracked down each misting Nazi, finding some wounded in a local hospital

00:58:29.480 where they were being treated under stolen aliases,

00:58:32.460 and then pressured those men to provide more information.

00:58:34.860 They promised each German he would not be harmed if he cooperated, and most did.

00:58:40.620 Then, when they were no longer useful, Gamul agents shot them and dumped the bodies. 0.52

00:58:44.220 There was no sense in leaving them alive to tip the British command to Gamul's clandestine mission. 0.92

00:58:49.020 So again, this is a group of Jews in British uniform in the British army 0.96

00:58:54.240 using information they gleaned from their access granted to them by the British army 0.97

00:58:58.840 to identify people they claim deserve death,

00:59:04.100 coerce them, i.e. torture them 0.98

00:59:07.180 until they give up information about other Nazis,

00:59:12.080 which again, it's like, okay, 0.76

00:59:13.860 some guy has a gun to his head

00:59:15.760 and they tell that guy, 1.00

00:59:17.220 we're going to blow your brains out 0.96

00:59:18.220 unless you give us names of your fellow SS members. 0.75

00:59:23.320 How much do you trust in that list?

00:59:25.760 Is he giving you nothing but the names

00:59:27.880 of people who absolutely deserve death or is he naming everybody he can think of and then the

00:59:33.560 israelis are taking that list and saying it looks like we have our hit list here and they're going 0.94

00:59:37.680 and murdering all of them and then they murdered the guy who gave them the information in the first

00:59:41.880 place and that is another again extremely common situation in this is i mean that is this is what

00:59:49.560 they do they kidnap people they torture them to extract information or they convince them to give

00:59:56.300 them information by threatening them with depth if they don't, and every single time, they just

01:00:01.220 kill the person afterwards. It doesn't matter if they give them information or not. It doesn't

01:00:05.060 matter how good the information is. They torture you to extract the information, and then they kill

01:00:09.840 you. That's just how it works, okay? Every single time. Again, doing this in British military uniform, 0.97

01:00:16.520 doing this under the guise of the British military, getting access to things only because

01:00:20.340 they could go and say, I'm a British officer, and I need to see this prisoner, and then the

01:00:24.760 prisoner would just never be seen again and then look around and go what happened to that guy

01:00:28.280 and the Jewish brigade would say we have no idea what are you anti-semitic

01:00:31.000 the killers themselves worked in teams of no more than five men when meeting their target they

01:00:37.780 generally wore British military police uniforms and typically told their target they'd come to

01:00:41.480 take a man named so-and-so for interrogation most of the time the German came without objection

01:00:45.920 as one of the unit's soldiers Shalom Giladi related in his testimony to the Haganah archive

01:00:51.400 the Nazi would sometimes instantly killed, would sometimes be killed instantly, and other times

01:00:56.560 transported to some remote spot before being killed. In time, we developed quiet, rapid, 0.84

01:01:00.840 and efficient methods for taking care of the SS men who fell into our hands. So again, you get 0.89

01:01:07.360 this sense of like, okay, why is this succeeding? It's succeeding not because they are smarter and

01:01:13.640 more capable or more cunning or, you know, the Germans are trying to kill them and they're just 1.00

01:01:18.160 outfoxing them and killing them first it's a bunch of germans who lost the war surrendered 0.99

01:01:22.900 abandoned the fight are off living their lives in in almost now if you don't think they're allowed 0.98

01:01:30.320 to do that then then what should be done so you think everybody in the entire german government

01:01:35.760 should have been killed as a consequence of the war like what is the other option here 0.52

01:01:39.820 you have the nazi party who takes over germany starts a world war you know does massacres that 0.99

01:01:46.760 piss people off but you defeat that power structure you utterly destroy the nation

01:01:53.720 you kill like 12 million german people the people who lost surrender some of them go to jail if they 0.85

01:02:01.100 deserve it other ones are released because that's what you do with the end of a war 0.95

01:02:04.680 they're not sitting there thinking where's the next jew to kill they're not out there running 0.93

01:02:11.700 assassination programs killing every jewish person in the allied army like 0.97

01:02:17.100 there's a such a massive unparalleled advantage of operating 0.96

01:02:26.760 in a way that your opponent is not even aware of that they don't even know they're being hunted

01:02:33.160 they don't even know they're in danger when they it's probably happened before that a british

01:02:38.400 officer came up hey we have some questions for you all right they go interrogation what do you

01:02:43.080 need to know all right thank you sir you know don't don't don't go anywhere without telling us

01:02:48.420 you know that sort of thing so another british officer says hey we got an interrogation for you

01:02:52.440 they have no idea they're about to be murdered they have no idea they're walking into the hands

01:02:56.160 of assassins in british uniform because they're operating under this belief that they're british

01:03:02.420 they are they're civilized they believe in law and order they're under control of a civilian

01:03:06.740 oversight. They weren't dealing with that. They were dealing with an infiltration of that by a

01:03:12.520 bunch of terrorists who were there to murder everybody they could, with or without proof of

01:03:20.240 their crimes. One day, a female SS officer escaped from an English detention camp next to our base.

01:03:27.520 After the British discovered that the officer had escaped, they sent out photographs of her taken

01:03:31.160 during her imprisonment, front and side view, to all the military police stations. We went through

01:03:35.860 the refugee camp and identified her.

01:03:38.800 They kidnap her, they take her

01:03:39.900 to an area by the woods.

01:03:42.700 Her last scream

01:03:43.800 in German was, what's going on?

01:03:46.800 To make sure she was dead,

01:03:48.160 Carmi shot her, and we gave her body

01:03:49.960 and the surroundings the appearance of a 0.95

01:03:51.900 violent rape. 1.00

01:03:54.120 Okay, so you raped and killed her, 1.00

01:03:55.740 is what you're saying. We gave it the appearance. 1.00

01:03:58.200 I mean, God, they would never.

01:04:00.140 Right? I mean, all of this

01:04:02.000 you kind of have to read with little, because it's all

01:04:03.560 the guys who did it telling their own story they always you know portray themselves as

01:04:08.560 their vision of righteous i wouldn't consider it righteous but that's how they're trying to

01:04:13.940 present it but again it's just sort of the same thing where it's like they have a hungarian 0.63

01:04:18.080 they have a hungarian kid go up and be like we have a way for you to escape come with us

01:04:23.240 and she goes thinking she's escaping and her last words are what is going on yeah i think that's 0.98

01:04:28.460 kind of that's kind of the perfect symbol it's like their their murder victims are not like ah

01:04:33.720 you got me you know it's not like you oh i almost got you but you got me it's like what is happening

01:04:39.640 what is going on why are you doing this and they rape and murder it's like this this is not a war

01:04:46.920 they're fighting these are massacres they're carrying out these are defenseless people who

01:04:52.540 are not aware that they're in a fight but the other side is convinced that if they don't kill 0.57

01:04:57.520 them. So where is the rise and kill first in any of this? That's my question. None of these

01:05:05.200 Germans, they talk about killing, and they killed hundreds of Germans this way. Hundreds. They had 0.96

01:05:10.020 access to all the British files. They took those files and just used them like a checklist,

01:05:14.120 used their access to the British army. So where does this go? The operation only lasted three

01:05:19.060 months, from May to July, during which time Gamal killed somewhere between 100 and 200 people.

01:05:23.800 Several historians who have researched Gamal's operations

01:05:26.920 Maintain the methods used to identify targets were insufficient

01:05:29.260 And that many innocents were killed 0.95

01:05:30.740 Well, yeah, no crap 0.98

01:05:31.980 Duh

01:05:35.600 And it says, you know, they also used the information

01:05:38.080 They had to carry out personal vendettas

01:05:39.860 As well as identifying the wrong person

01:05:42.840 And killing the wrong person

01:05:43.900 So, you know, even in this

01:05:46.360 It's presented as if this is the nascent

01:05:48.420 The beginning of the sophisticated 0.67

01:05:50.280 you know strategic targeted killing operation that israel currently engages it stripped stripped 0.56

01:05:58.420 away of all of the justification this is very simple this was a infiltration of the british

01:06:03.820 army by a group of terrorists who are going around murdering their enemies extra judicially

01:06:08.660 with no oversight with no trial with no jury with no judge no confirmation of who they were killing

01:06:14.700 and they did it all right under the nose of the british who had empowered them to do this

01:06:19.440 But we're totally unaware of the way in which the laws of war and nationality and God himself were being violated routinely by these psychopaths motivated by, on one hand, the lies they were told from the – because this is the other thing. 0.62

01:06:36.800 Imagine being one of the emaciated Jews who is being looked at with this disdain and contempt from the Israelis. 0.80

01:06:46.460 like imagine you're this jewish person they're looking at you and going how did you let them 0.99

01:06:50.580 do this to you you weak jew how dare you wouldn't you be motivated to be like well you don't 0.99

01:06:56.060 understand let me explain how evil they are and in order to justify your own you know inability to 0.99

01:07:02.240 fight back you might want to come up with some pretty crazy things that would make it seem like

01:07:08.640 you were totally overwhelmed by this force of sickening evil what i'm laying out here is that

01:07:15.980 there's very obvious human motivations that would drive these people to think that this was the

01:07:22.920 right thing to do. You've got the motivation, the incentive for the Jews of Europe to make 1.00

01:07:30.740 the story of what happened to them as gruesome and horrible as possible. You have people from 1.00

01:07:35.740 Israel incentivized to believe that, to accept that uncritically, and then to be motivated by 0.75

01:07:41.960 those stories even if they're totally untrue or exaggerated in some way it doesn't really matter 0.94

01:07:47.080 at the end of the day it's the motivation you need to see all of germans and every person ever 0.71

01:07:52.860 placed in nazi uniform as an existential enemy as something subhuman something that you don't have 0.68

01:08:00.140 to even think twice about murdering because look at what they tried to do to us it's taking the

01:08:07.380 rise and kill first mentality and like completely inverting it and using it to justify acts of

01:08:14.940 vengeance, revenge, outrage, and rage in general. So what happened to it? Well, Gamule got closed

01:08:22.680 down when the British, who'd heard complaints about disappearances from German families,

01:08:26.300 grasped what was going on. They decided not to investigate further, but to transfer the Jewish

01:08:31.500 brigade to Belgium and the Netherlands away from the Germans and Haganah command issued a firm

01:08:35.940 order to cease revenge operations. So we'll have to sort of end it here. There's so much more I

01:08:42.700 want to get to. Maybe we'll go ahead and do a second episode on this right off the bat, because

01:08:47.880 there still is a lot to explore here. And again, if you do like this, let me know. But this is what

01:08:52.260 happens over and over again, over and over and over again. It doesn't matter how extreme their

01:08:58.840 methods are. It doesn't matter how ineffective they are. It doesn't matter how many innocent

01:09:02.600 people they kill or laws they break or confidences they violate it just doesn't ever seem to matter

01:09:09.820 so when you read this you get a sense of like okay here's this faction that's operating a in

01:09:16.640 you know total secrecy b in cooperation with everyone else of their ethnic persuasion even the

01:09:26.100 you know radical communist terrorists in israel they might have not been on the same team

01:09:32.280 as Theodor Herzl, but they were working in tandem, but they were working hand in hand to achieve

01:09:36.880 their common goals. But also that when caught, when exposed, when they fail, nothing happens.

01:09:44.920 There's no downside. And you start to understand, you're like, okay, this is why it just keeps

01:09:50.940 expanding and keeps growing and they keep taking more and greater risks and having more devastating

01:09:57.160 failures and it just never matters it never matters because in a way their opponents never

01:10:04.420 fully grasp what's going on their opponents never understand the ruthlessness of their enemies and

01:10:13.120 it it's it's kind of brutal and it's like it's almost sad because it's like okay if the

01:10:21.940 and then you know we can get to to later parts of the book but it's like in the mindset of the

01:10:29.360 israelis and then the israeli extremists who founded and ran the country up until now including

01:10:34.280 benjamin nanyahu who is throughout this book ordering assassinations and doing all that like

01:10:38.780 they all come out of the targeted killing program because at the end of the day that's what it you've

01:10:42.260 got this heart of the israeli project the foundation of it that is just a bunch of murderous 0.87

01:10:47.300 terrorists colonizers communist radicals and it was always that and it grows from that and it 0.68

01:10:54.680 never stops being that it's not a nation being founded it is a legal framework codifying a mafia

01:11:03.380 a group of mobsters and so they act with such ruthlessness and with with such disdain for

01:11:09.980 human life with such willingness to murder everybody that opposes them or you know happens

01:11:16.500 being nearby at the time like it really doesn't matter to them and it's almost like okay so how

01:11:21.480 do you defeat this if you were on the other side and you were trying to defeat this it's like the 0.84

01:11:26.940 only thing to do would be to murder them back so like if you were the british you know the british 0.60

01:11:32.160 at the time again you almost feel sad for them because it's like they're just totally bamboozled 0.99

01:11:36.680 they're totally screwed over and over by these people and they just they never seem to grasp it

01:11:41.860 now if that's because there are their agents inside britain helping them guide it of course

01:11:45.840 Of course there are.

01:11:47.720 But at the end of the day, if you were to go to the British military command and go,

01:11:52.860 hey, you know, these Jews that were helping to found their state,

01:11:57.620 these Jews that are the civilians that are like providing it, 1.00

01:12:00.260 you know they are just trying to murder everybody. 1.00

01:12:03.420 And you know like they're going to murder us if we don't stop them. 1.00

01:12:05.860 Like the only thing you could do would be to murder them back. 0.99

01:12:09.260 But their opponents, the opponents of the Jews, the opponents of Israel, 0.98

01:12:13.080 they never ever ever ever take the same ruthlessness the only people you could say

01:12:17.840 did attempt to take the same ruthlessness were the nazis and you can see that it creates 0.99

01:12:23.200 a feedback loop that bites them in the ass a whole hell of a lot harder than they ever 0.99

01:12:29.100 you know bit any of these people so you know it kind of it kind of sucks knowing that it's just 0.99

01:12:38.180 like once once a group like this is allowed to like get its foothold get its handholds gain power

01:12:45.060 become respected by the international community it's like how do you even deal with this how do

01:12:49.920 you deal with a group of people that from their very very beginning learn the lesson and it's

01:12:55.160 re-emphasized over and over they can kill whoever they want and at the very least they can try to

01:13:01.060 kill whoever they want and if they don't succeed they try again later because nothing happens

01:13:05.660 nothing bad happens the governments where they do this they you know collaborate with and and get 0.91

01:13:12.200 out there's another example later on uh the lily hammer affair where it's like the most egregious

01:13:19.900 example where they just identify some dude he's a moroccan waiter living in norway uh with a

01:13:26.360 pregnant girlfriend going out to movies and like the whole time there's these messages back and

01:13:30.280 forth between massad and the agents that are you know they're monitoring him and the agents are

01:13:34.640 going i don't know if this is our guy this guy doesn't seem like a militant palestinian leader

01:13:39.700 he seems like a regular dude he never does anything that you would expect about he doesn't

01:13:44.980 he's not looking over his shoulder he's not protecting himself he goes in the movies he

01:13:49.740 goes to work i don't think this is our guy and the command is just like it doesn't matter it's 1.00

01:13:54.260 our guy we got to get him we got to kill him and maybe it's not our guy but who cares kill him 0.94

01:13:57.120 anyway and so they kill him and it turns out he's he's a waiter uh they screw up the escape they 0.98

01:14:04.100 like you know get caught when they go to return the rental car they used to murder the guy it's

01:14:10.380 this big scandal so in reality what happened was just a bunch of israeli dudes showed up in norway

01:14:15.960 assaulted a man and his pregnant girlfriend in the street murdered the man and tried to run away

01:14:21.720 and norway's like what the hell so they arrest all of the operatives and i'm telling you it's

01:14:28.800 like at least half of their operations are just hilariously abysmal failures just insane insanity

01:14:36.280 insane and every time it's because there's like it's like there's no time to think there's no

01:14:40.620 no we just have to do it now it's like there's just like frantic you know it's existential we

01:14:45.500 have to do it now there's no thinking about it there's no there's no second guessing it there's 0.99

01:14:49.420 no other option just kill him kill him now and every time it's like so they're making mistakes 0.99

01:14:53.900 they're screwing things up people are finding out about it and alerting the authorities and so what 0.99

01:14:58.660 happens they arrest like six guys from Israel who just murdered a man on the street they spend about

01:15:04.460 one year in jail and escape and the book says and and get let out and the book says because you know

01:15:09.420 the Israeli government made a deal with the Norwegian government and so it's like okay

01:15:14.940 the worst most abysmal blatant failure of Mossad where you just show up in a foreign country 0.76

01:15:25.260 murder an innocent person and get caught immediately there's absolutely no consequence

01:15:31.560 there's no consequence i don't know what the negotiations were behind the scenes

01:15:35.840 i don't know what method israel used to lean on norway or why norway would go along with it

01:15:43.580 like it seems to me you just say no you sent these guys like if anything you should be begging us for

01:15:50.080 so like but just time and time again this is exactly what happens oh they're running 38 000

01:15:55.660 people undercover in the british army collaborating with people you know jews in the american

01:16:01.380 military sending them information to assassinate hundreds of potentially innocent germans they get 0.67

01:16:08.140 caught and they just go well now you're being sent to the netherlands your punishment is nothing 0.93

01:16:13.840 except you're going to be moved slightly farther away from the people you're trying to kill

01:16:17.520 that's the punishment they kill an innocent waiter in Norway one year slapping the wrist in

01:16:24.760 Norwegian prison and then you're actually greeted as heroes in Israel that's the other thing it

01:16:30.440 doesn't even matter to them that they killed an innocent guy they're heroes they when they got

01:16:35.420 back to Israel after their vacation in Norwegian jail they're celebrated and there was a parade 0.73

01:16:41.800 and a triumph like they'd done something great they had murdered a random Moroccan guy they had

01:16:47.100 done nothing valuable nothing strategic but like even when they know it's that the quotes from the

01:16:52.660 leaders of the masad are like well even if he wasn't the guy we were going after he was he must 0.93

01:16:56.880 have been his deputy so it was he deserved to die anyway and it's like no dude he was a moroccan 0.86

01:17:01.800 waiter but they don't acknowledge it they don't care they treat these people as heroes they get

01:17:06.120 let out and it's been this way since the early 1900s and again as we as we explore this and we'll

01:17:15.600 do at least one more episode on this, you see the way that the seeds of our current world order

01:17:21.360 are being sown. The seeds of our current conflict are being sown. Why is the Iran war such an abysmal

01:17:28.480 failure for us? Because we were convinced by Netanyahu, assassin-in-chief, that if we just

01:17:33.820 murdered the Iranian leadership, Iran would fall. And that didn't work, so we murdered a bunch of 0.96

01:17:40.600 other people. Like this targeted killing strategy is basically the primary strategy by which Israel 0.89

01:17:46.340 operates at this point. And it has never been an effective strategy. That's the other thing you

01:17:50.360 read in this book from the very beginning. It wasn't effective. How many lives were saved

01:17:54.680 because they killed some German couple on vacation in Poland? How many lives were saved because they, 0.97

01:18:01.260 you know, tortured some low level SS grunt to death in Constantinople 20 years later?

01:18:10.600 now in reality like if if anything worked as it should work it should be actually a much bigger

01:18:19.940 failure but as i've been talking about the failures never seem to amount to what they

01:18:25.820 should amount to they always seem to get away with it they never seem to pay the price and by the way

01:18:31.720 they have agents literally everywhere i mean that one passage i read where it says oh and by the way

01:18:37.600 they got a ton of information from a jewish guy in the u.s military who didn't think the u.s

01:18:41.280 military was operating there are so many statements like that there are so many times when the massad

01:18:47.880 comes to a uh barrier an obstacle of some sort or you know need to find somebody's information and

01:18:56.320 it's like there's an agent in every organization it genuinely is crazy we'll get into it next time

01:19:03.120 but it's like there's a there's a whole saga about german nazi rocket scientists helping

01:19:12.080 egypt build the rockets they were using and it's like throughout the chapter it's like well they

01:19:19.040 had you know there was a one jewish guy who looked german so he was able to infiltrate he's in the

01:19:25.560 the top echelons of the german expat community in egypt and the egyptian office where all this

01:19:31.800 was being decided one of our agents was the top people there and the you know people who were

01:19:36.900 making the bombs we actually had you know the president of the industry was actually a Mossad

01:19:40.640 agent like it's it is a little bit terrifying to be honest with you when it's like wow every single

01:19:48.840 organization including the organizations or the the groups of people like the Nazi expats in Egypt

01:19:54.040 a group of people who literally are only they are escaped Nazis who entire purpose is trying to

01:20:00.620 continue the war against the Jews, this time by helping Egypt defeat Israel, and it's like that 0.56

01:20:07.000 group of people has a Mossad agent in its inner circle. The group of people whose entire purpose 0.89

01:20:13.900 of being is to oppose the Jews, oppose Mossad, oppose Israel, strictly German-Nazis, and somehow 0.58

01:20:20.820 one of their top guys is just a straight-up Mossad agent from Tel Aviv, and it's like, 0.53

01:20:25.900 okay it's impressive you gotta admit it's impressive you gotta admit they can put anybody

01:20:32.120 anywhere but again it's like how do you defend against that how do you defend against that

01:20:37.580 because what it seems like is the only way to guarantee that you don't have a massad operative 0.99

01:20:41.900 in your organization is to not let any jews in your organization and even that's not safe

01:20:47.520 but that's usually but that's what happens just like we read earlier it's like well there was a

01:20:51.720 jew and the american army that fed us information again at the time this this you know israel wasn't

01:20:57.600 even a country but this was a you know it's an ethnic super state that shares information that

01:21:04.380 cooperates with one of it takes orders from a centralized command so it just shows you like

01:21:10.140 what an impossible position everybody who's against israel is in because you're dealing

01:21:17.520 with people who are utterly ruthless yet extremely capable of concealing their ruthlessness yet are

01:21:23.400 insinuated into every single power structure you can look to the way that they're able to cover up

01:21:30.060 their actions or mitigate the negative consequences of their failures is truly astonishing and the

01:21:36.960 brutality with which they carry out their actions can only be defeated by equal and opposite

01:21:45.300 brutality it's really a negative feedback loop that they've started and that has just expanded

01:21:51.800 and grown like a snowball rolling down the hill ever since it's an extremely fascinating book

01:21:57.320 and again i don't think it's coincidence that benjamin and yahoo of all people routinely

01:22:02.780 invokes this phrase rise and kill first as if it applies to you know slaughtering gods and babies

01:22:11.460 which it does right it's like well that baby eventually might grow up they might hate me 0.99

01:22:16.740 they might get a chance to kill me so i'll kill the baby now that's the mindset that our greatest 0.99

01:22:22.240 ally is operating under and from the very beginning they can dress up however they want 1.00

01:22:28.280 they've been nothing but a cabal of murderous thugs it's really pathetic so we'll continue this 0.55

01:22:36.680 If you like it, leave me a comment, let me know. 0.94

01:22:39.300 I know people are big fans of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion,

01:22:43.040 but our last episode didn't get as many views,

01:22:46.500 so I thought maybe people are getting tired of it.

01:22:48.080 We'll move on to something sort of tangential, related, a parallel, a corollary. 0.52

01:22:53.500 The fantastical nonsense that the Tsarist secret agents wrote

01:22:58.060 seems to have a lot of reflections in the very well-sourced historical documentation.

01:23:05.420 But don't look into that.

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The NXR Podcast - June 26, 2026

Off Limits News - Netanyahu Quotes Talmud ＂Rise and Kill First＂

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