In this episode, the guys debate whether or not head coverings are a sin. Doug Wilson argues that they are a necessary part of the Christian life, and that they should be worn in public, while Joel, the pastor, has his hat on in front of the whole congregation. Should he take it off or not?
00:02:46.940on stage as he's leading the church and i mean like paul doesn't just say it's a sin he says
00:02:54.820it's embarrassing it's shameful the same way it's shameful for a man to have long hair and a woman
00:02:59.580to have short hair it's also shameful if a woman won't cover her head and it's shameful if a man
00:03:04.220will and it's funny with head coverings you know because there's there's guys and guys that i love
00:03:07.980like doug wilson who i respect doug wilson is we're not pierce he is my superior yes he's a
00:03:15.420better man than i am there's much controversy that he's a better man than i am and theologically
00:03:21.100he's superior um but he's wrong about head coverings uh and and i'll say that i i would
00:03:28.060more confidently say that Doug Wilson is wrong in his position about head coverings than I'll say
00:03:31.900he's wrong in his position about baptism. I would have more hesitation in saying that I'm right
00:03:38.120about credo baptism and Doug's wrong about pedo baptism. But I will confidently say that if
00:03:42.980there's any one doctrine where I disagree with Doug Wilson and I stand the best chance of being
00:03:47.600right and holding the actual biblical position and him being wrong, it's head coverings.
00:03:51.380and on that note doug argues that you know well the last line in this text in first corinthians
00:03:58.28011 paul says her hair is given to her for a covering so it's like yeah she better cover her
00:04:03.680head she needs a covering she needs a covering she needs a covering but her hair is given to her0.89
00:04:07.200for a covering so there you go she's covered she just needs to have long hair which is insane when
00:04:12.500you plug that back into the text because you know paul literally says in a portion of first
00:04:16.900Corinthians 11, it says, if she will not, it says, if she will not have long hair, then she should
00:04:24.080cut her hair short, or I'm sorry, if she will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short
00:04:30.160or shear her head, shave her head, for it is shameful for her not to cover her head. And so
00:04:38.120what Paul is essentially saying is this, if a woman won't wear a head covering in worship and
00:04:43.960prayer and prophesying, which I take as the chief marks of corporate worship on the Lord's
00:04:48.000Day. We are prophesying, lowercase p, prophesying and praying. Prophesying, thus saith the Lord,
00:04:54.680he's speaking to the people of God. Praying, the people speaking to God. God speaks to the people,
00:04:58.800the people speak to God. Prayer and prophecy is the two primary parts of what we do on the Lord's
00:05:03.640Day when we gather together. That's what church is. It's prayer and prophecy. God speaks to us,
00:05:07.180we speak to him. He speaks to us through the sacraments, through his word. We speak to him
00:05:11.300through singing song and and prayer so praying the word we speak to god uh singing the word we speak
00:05:17.420to god um preaching the word god speaks to us seeing the word and the sacrament of the lord's
00:05:22.480supper and baptism god speaks to us so prophesy uh that's lord speaking to us thus saith the lord
00:05:28.460prayer and singing that's that's us speaking to god so prayer and prophecy and that's first
00:05:33.500corinthians 11 praying and prophecy that's when the covering needs to be there and what is prayer
00:05:36.900in prophecy it's god speaking to us us speaking to god which is the whole makeup of lord's day
00:05:41.560worship so cover your head if you're a woman at church and don't cover your head if you're a man0.75
00:05:45.760at church all that being said back back to the text in first corinthians 11 if a woman will not
00:05:49.840cover her head she should cut her hair short now remember at the end her hair is given to her for
00:05:54.520covering now it's an entirely different greek word there than it's been used the entire time
00:05:58.880so it's not saying that the hair is given to her as the only cover she needs it's saying no the hair
00:06:03.760has been given to her by God. And this is an argument from nature, just in God's natural
00:06:08.420design, um, that the woman has been given long hair as a natural covering. And that testifies0.96
00:06:14.200that she should be further covered on the Lord's day. The fact that God gave her a natural covering
00:06:18.840testifies and confirms that she should be covered. That's what Paul's saying. He says, you know,
00:06:24.900for the hair is given to her as a covering. Whereas Doug Wilson, again, who I respect immensely
00:06:28.840would say oh there it is you know she's got a covering like no the hair is given as a natural
00:06:34.500covering confirming that she needs to be further covered um and doug's gonna say oh the hair is
00:06:39.180given to her as a covering so as long as a woman has long hair that is the covering and she doesn't0.90
00:06:42.920need a cover and again the reason that doesn't work is because if she will not cover her head
00:06:47.780she should cut her hair short so now plug in doug wilson's hermeneutic if he's saying that the hair
00:06:53.080is a covering and that's the only covering that's needed then then if she will not cover her head
00:06:58.080she should cut her hair short. Well, if the hair is a covering, then essentially, um, what Paul
00:07:03.460would be saying is if she has short hair, she should cut her hair short, right? Cause the hair
00:07:09.120is the cover. If she doesn't have long hair, she should cut her hair short. Think about that. So1.00
00:07:13.560if, if her hair is already short, then she should cut her hair short, which is already short. But
00:07:20.480if her head, uh, if her hair isn't, if her head isn't covered because she doesn't have hair and0.58
00:07:25.260hair is a covering because she's bald then she should shave her head but it's already shaved0.98
00:07:30.300because she's already bald it's just i mean it's dumb it's dumb and um i mean it really is i think0.98
00:07:40.020one of the clearest texts in scripture uh head covering so all that being said back to you know0.97
00:07:44.520your pastor wearing a hat because the woman should cover but the man should not and with your pastor
00:07:49.760wearing a hat i mean that's one of those things that has kind of stood the test of time at least
00:07:54.140you know where i am you know in god's country texas you know like you still i mean you could
00:07:58.400you could be at the rodeo on a thursday afternoon it's not the lord's day it's not church it's not
00:08:03.280the gathered saints there's no administering of the ordinary means of grace it's bull riding
00:08:07.140and uh and somebody will pray god bless america you know and and all the men will be taking off
00:08:15.560their cowboy hats right a baseball game somebody prays and what do people do that the men instinctively
00:08:21.800right it's just built into our culture it's it's one of our cultural rituals men take off their
00:08:26.760hat you sing the the the uh the national anthem right it's not even to god but just anything
00:08:32.100that signifies some kind it's it's a a moment of respect a moment of honor and what do men do in
00:08:36.880moments like that they take off their hat at a funeral men aren't wearing hats they take off
00:08:41.740their hat at a wedding like any anything anything of pomp and circumstance anything of um that's
00:08:49.840formal that's official and it's certainly anything of reverence and respect men take off their hat
00:08:57.980because they know that it's shameful to cover their head because man is the glory of christ
00:09:04.380right christ is the glory of god man is the glory of christ and woman is the glory of man
00:09:10.360and the hair woman's hair is the glory of woman and man knows that the glory of god instinctively
00:09:16.660Man knows, even pagan men know, that in God-like moments, in reverent moments, moments of honoring God, moments of worship, that the man should not be covered.
00:09:31.340The man rather should display God's glory.
00:09:34.140Man is the image, and both men and women bear the image of God.
00:09:38.900But the scripture teaches, Paul says in 1 Corinthians 11, that man bears not just the image.
00:09:43.360woman bears the image of God, but man bears the image and glory of God. And the glory of God in
00:09:49.820man shouldn't, should be on display. God's glory should be on display. Um, whereas the glory of
00:09:55.880man that woman bears, she bears the glory of man, man's glory should be covered, right? So it's not0.93
00:10:01.580just an argument about authority and submission. It's an argument about glory and whose glory
00:10:06.960gets to be put center stage on display at church on the Lord's day in the worship of the triune
00:10:14.020God and whose glory should not be a distraction and should be veiled right so the glory of man
00:10:20.140which is woman should be veiled in the worship of God but the glory of God in the worship of God
00:10:25.760should be put on display so man who is the glory of God does not cover his head but woman who is
00:10:30.220the glory of man does it's real simple it's it's really not that hard of a text I'll tell you